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Title: John Waters is overrated
Post by: on November 28, 2004, 12:29:00 pm
Talk amongst yourselves.
Title: Re: John Waters is overrated
Post by: chaz on November 28, 2004, 12:42:00 pm
Yeah well his movies have never done much for me.
Title: Re: John Waters is overrated
Post by: on November 28, 2004, 02:11:00 pm
As an individual he's interesting.  As a film maker...?
Title: Re: John Waters is overrated
Post by: Herr Professor Doktor Doom on November 28, 2004, 03:08:00 pm
What's not to like?  HHe's done some good stuff.  His "Simpsons" character is funny.  And he's from Baltimore!
 
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Title: Re: John Waters is overrated
Post by: chaz on November 28, 2004, 03:29:00 pm
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Originally posted by marquee smith:
  As an individual he's interesting.  As a film maker...?
My sentiments exactly.
Title: Re: John Waters is overrated
Post by: PigIron on November 28, 2004, 07:27:00 pm
Maybe he is a bit.  But we are better off with him than without him.  If it weren't for guys like John Waters we'd be forced to choose between films like Armageddon and Bridgette Jone's Diary every time we wanted to go see a movie.
Title: Re: John Waters is overrated
Post by: Random Citizen on November 28, 2004, 07:50:00 pm
Shouldn't one have to be popular (in the mainstream sense) before one can be called "overrated"? Seriously, step off the coasts and ask folks what they think of Waters. I wonder how many people have seen his pre-Hairspray films.
 
 Outside of the popularity gained by that film becoming a Broadway musical, and that isn't really due to Waters per se, most of his films are very much off the radar for most people.
 
 But then again, I love John Waters because he carries on the sleazy traditions of Russ Meyer (RIP) by pushing the taste envelope. And as Doc Doom mentioned, he's a local boy who films his movies in and around Baltimore as well as holding premiere screenings there.
Title: Re: John Waters is overrated
Post by: freddyadu on November 28, 2004, 10:23:00 pm
anyone going to that show?  what if i want to greet him, but not meet him?  i wonder if it's a total package thing.
Title: Re: John Waters is overrated
Post by: lily1 on November 29, 2004, 02:22:00 am
i'm thinking about going...
Title: Re: John Waters is overrated
Post by: Ikarus on November 29, 2004, 03:31:00 am
two words: "pink flamingos"
 
 two more words: "mondo trasho."
 
 yet again, as above: "cry baby."  (johnny depp, ricki lake, iggy pop what???)
 
 caveat: john waters isn't very shocking amidst the internet age.  patty hearst nowithstanding.
Title: Re: John Waters is overrated
Post by: joz on November 29, 2004, 11:28:00 am
i've played pink flamingos for a few friends who had never seen it...it never fails in its manifest to revolt and shock, particularly the "how much is the doggy in the window" scene at the end.  it's trashy and low budget but what else would you expect from a film made in phoenix, md.  
 
 mondo trasho, polyester and hairspray are great also...and as for his simpsons appearance, i've always thought of waters as a cartoon character personified.  waters overrated?  no way.
Title: Re: John Waters is overrated
Post by: on November 29, 2004, 01:26:00 pm
Different strokes and all, but I've seen many of his films, both his old-school & new, and I find them curious, rather than compelling.  Hairspray is his Magnum Opus, IMO, but it's no masterpiece.  Perhaps my opinion would be different if I had seen his earlier films in the 70s, as they were released.
Title: Re: John Waters is overrated
Post by: lionforce5 on November 29, 2004, 02:41:00 pm
Not as overrated as Cronenberg, that's for sure.
Title: Re: John Waters is overrated
Post by: Random Citizen on November 29, 2004, 02:54:00 pm
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Originally posted by j_lee:
  Not as overrated as Cronenberg, that's for sure.
Aww, the beer isn't that bad.  ;)
 
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Title: Re: John Waters is overrated
Post by: on November 29, 2004, 03:21:00 pm
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Originally posted by j_lee:
  Not as overrated as Cronenberg, that's for sure.
How so?  Videodrome is a phreakin' masterwork!
Title: Re: John Waters is overrated
Post by: Medusa on November 29, 2004, 08:31:00 pm
I completely agree!
 
 Cheers
 
 DJ Medusa.
Title: Re: John Waters is overrated
Post by: snailhook on November 29, 2004, 09:16:00 pm
john waters overrated? no way. crude at times and amateurish (pre-hairspray), but fucking hilarious and mean-spirited. the beginning of "desperate living" never fails to make me laugh. polyester kills, too. you kind of have to be on the same wavelength to enjoy his brand of humor.
Title: Re: John Waters is overrated
Post by: Lamb007 on November 29, 2004, 09:19:00 pm
Desperate Living - one of my all time faves.
 
 "Eat It Peggy. Eat it!"