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Title: Automobiles
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on November 10, 2011, 02:56:00 pm
VW Tiguan v. Kia Sportage v. Hyundai Tuscon

Discuss.
Title: Re: Automobiles
Post by: James Ford on November 10, 2011, 02:58:10 pm
Can't wait to read ggw's reply.
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Post by: i am gay and i like cats on November 10, 2011, 03:08:52 pm
aren't you the one that started that music thread because no one talks about music?
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Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on November 10, 2011, 03:09:23 pm
Can't wait to read ggw's reply.

I'll throw a Subaru Forrester in the mix as well, GGW seems like a Subaru guy.
Title: Re: Automobiles
Post by: ggw on November 10, 2011, 03:23:30 pm
I am not a fan of the crossover SUV genre in general.  In general, I would get a station wagon before a mini SUV. I do like Subaru, but I would get an Outback before a Forester.  I would get a Touareg instead of a Tiguan.

Or you can go all in on the suburban douche factor like me and get a Range Rover (a proper Range Rover - not that dumbed-down Sport version). 
Title: Re: Automobiles
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on November 10, 2011, 03:28:35 pm
I want a wagon.  The wife wants an SUV.  Guess who wins?

We can't have anything longer than 178 inches (that's what she said), which rules out a ton of cars.
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Post by: StoneTheCrow on November 10, 2011, 03:33:41 pm
I want a wagon.  The wife wants an SUV.  Guess who wins?

Nobody!!

I have driven a Mercedes wagon - my in-laws have one - and it's a really nice car. But it's a wagon, ferchrissakes.

Own an SUV that currently has 190k miles on it.  Am in the process of driving it into the ground and once that happens I will be done with SUVs forever.  Just glad I don't have to drive it everyday.
Title: Re: Automobiles
Post by: James Ford on November 10, 2011, 03:33:59 pm
We're very happy with our RAV4. Or I should say my work at home wife is. I'm the one who drives every day, and i get to drive the 16 year old Saturn.
Title: Re: Automobiles
Post by: StoneTheCrow on November 10, 2011, 03:37:30 pm
Hey, don't knock Saturns.  Still have my '99 SL2 and it's about to hit 200k.  Most reliable car I've ever owned.
Title: Re: Automobiles
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on November 10, 2011, 03:38:36 pm
But it's a wagon, ferchrissakes.

there are some sweet wagons out there:

(http://www.audiusa.com/etc/medialib/ngw/us/my09/a3.Par.0055.Image.jpg/model-nav-a3.jpg)
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Post by: James Ford on November 10, 2011, 03:41:53 pm
95 SL2 with 145K.  AC is broken, heat not great, ceiling falling in, back windows won't roll down, radio volume dial busted, leaks wiper fluid, the list goes on. But very reliable for short trip driving.

Hey, don't knock Saturns.  Still have my '99 SL2 and it's about to hit 200k.  Most reliable car I've ever owned.
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Post by: StoneTheCrow on November 10, 2011, 03:45:04 pm
That's pretty good.

A/C in mine just died (the compressor clutch went first).  One rear window won't go down and that's an easy fix but I won't bother with that.  Radio is fine but all four speakers are shot.  Sunroof still works great.

The worst of it is that the rings are leaking oil and that that's way too much of a job for me and too much $$ to take to the shop for this car.  So this one's being driven onto the ground, too.
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Post by: chaz on November 10, 2011, 03:45:38 pm
For the love of god don't get a VW. 

Get a RAV4 or CRV, that's my vote. 

I'm in the market too, but for something used.  Was looking hard at CRV but in the end it's not big enough for what we need.
Title: Re: Automobiles
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on November 10, 2011, 03:49:11 pm
For the love of god don't get a VW. 

Get a RAV4 or CRV, that's my vote. 

I'm in the market too, but for something used.  Was looking hard at CRV but in the end it's not big enough for what we need.

RAV4 is too long (181.9), CRV (179.3) is just butting up against our length limit.
Title: Re: Automobiles
Post by: chaz on November 10, 2011, 03:53:45 pm
For the love of god don't get a VW. 

Get a RAV4 or CRV, that's my vote. 

I'm in the market too, but for something used.  Was looking hard at CRV but in the end it's not big enough for what we need.

RAV4 is too long (181.9), CRV (179.3) is just butting up against our length limit.
Why the limit? a parking space?
Title: Re: Automobiles
Post by: vansmack on November 10, 2011, 03:57:04 pm
I'm torn between the Audi A3 TDI and the Lexus CT 200h.

There's nothing wrong with that Audi Wagon....
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Post by: ggw on November 10, 2011, 04:01:43 pm
Where do you live - Munchkinland?

You should point out to Saxette that getting a crossover SUV is not a compromise, it's a stunning loss for her.  It is no way an SUV.  They are basically built on car platforms.  There are a lot of great station wagons out there with as much space as a mini-SUV.

You're a well-educated, high-powered attorney.  How come you can't win this case, counselor?
Title: Re: Automobiles
Post by: James Ford on November 10, 2011, 04:05:57 pm
You, sir, have obviously never shared living space with a spouse/partner/signifacant other who was pregnant.

Where do you live - Munchkinland?

You should point out to Saxette that getting a crossover SUV is not a compromise, it's a stunning loss for her.  It is no way an SUV.  They are basically built on car platforms.  There are a lot of great station wagons out there with as much space as a mini-SUV.

You're a well-educated, high-powered attorney.  How come you can't win this case, counselor?
Title: Re: Automobiles
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on November 10, 2011, 04:12:36 pm
I live in the Capitol Hill Historic District with a tiny-ass garage apparently built to house a small horse.

It's easier to get a car seat in and out of an SUV (compact or not) as compared to a wagon/hatchback.  This seems to override every other argument in favor of the wagon.  Oh well.

The Sportage SX (http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews/driven/1103_2011_kia_sportage_sx_drive/viewall.html) looks solid and somewhat fun to drive.
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Post by: James Ford on November 10, 2011, 04:16:51 pm
Carry the child in a sling and you won't have the problem of carseat removal. We never once removed the carseat. Plus, carrying a baby in a carseat just looks douchey. And the sling allows for more bonding than carrying a kid in a carseat or stroller.

I mean seriously, don't let that be a criteria for car selection!


I live in the Capitol Hill Historic District with a tiny-ass garage apparently built to house a small horse.

It's easier to get a car seat in and out of an SUV (compact or not) as compared to a wagon/hatchback.  This seems to override every other argument in favor of the wagon.  Oh well.

The Sportage SX (http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews/driven/1103_2011_kia_sportage_sx_drive/viewall.html) looks solid and somewhat fun to drive.
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Post by: radley17 on November 10, 2011, 06:59:32 pm
Least rock and roll thread ever
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Post by: thirsty moore on November 11, 2011, 05:01:12 pm
Or you can go all in on the suburban douche factor like me and get a Range Rover (a proper Range Rover - not that dumbed-down Sport version). 
Damn son.
Title: Re: Automobiles
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 13, 2011, 08:51:24 pm
VW Tiguan v. Kia Sportage v. Hyundai Tuscon

Discuss.
of those three, hyundai

but that's kind of an awful list
Title: Re: Automobiles
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on November 13, 2011, 10:16:09 pm
Test drove the Jetta Sportwagen TDI this weekend, nice car.
Title: Re: Automobiles
Post by: chaz on November 14, 2011, 11:31:27 am
Test drove the Jetta Sportwagen TDI this weekend, nice car.
Don't get a VW.  Unless you like dropping $500 - $1000 every time you take it in for simple maintenance/oil changes.  Shit on those cars wears out faster than anything and parts are expensive.  Nice cars, but horrible horrible moneypits.

I know because I've owned two.  The fact that I did not learn my lesson after VW #1 makes me the stupidest person in this thread.

Title: Re: Automobiles
Post by: eltee on November 14, 2011, 12:34:23 pm
Most ladies & gents I know don't take out the car seat ever. Unless you are traveling and don't have a spare. They use a stroller or sling. Imagine back / hip / wrist pain too.
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Post by: i am gay and i like cats on November 14, 2011, 12:35:21 pm
for some reason, what ford did to jaguar, is unacceptable.
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Post by: chaz on November 14, 2011, 01:09:30 pm
Most ladies & gents I know don't take out the car seat ever. Unless you are traveling and don't have a spare. They use a stroller or sling. Imagine back / hip / wrist pain too.
i took it out quite a bit when  they were really little and in one of those car seats that snaps right into the stroller.

Bleggghhh.  Babies.  There is no amount you could pay me to hit the reset button on that clock again.
Title: Re: Automobiles
Post by: bellenseb on November 14, 2011, 01:14:51 pm
Consumer Reports seems to rate most VWs very good to excellent on Owner Satisfaction (although middling on reliability)...but you hear a pretty loud chorus like the one in this forum on costs/maintenance. Wonder what the disconnect is...
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Post by: chaz on November 14, 2011, 01:19:16 pm
Consumer Reports seems to rate most VWs very good to excellent on Owner Satisfaction (although middling on reliability)...but you hear a pretty loud chorus like the one in this forum on costs/maintenance. Wonder what the disconnect is...
They are NICE cars and for the sticker price you get a lot.  Just very expensive to own.
Title: Re: Automobiles
Post by: chaz on November 14, 2011, 01:21:57 pm
Coincidentally I am in the market for new (to me) car.  My family and our two dogs can not all go someplace together without taking two cars.  The corolla and civic are not cutting it anymore.  Plus I need something that can tow a trailer.

Looking hard at a used ford Explorer.
Title: Re: Automobiles
Post by: godsshoeshine on November 14, 2011, 01:28:58 pm
yeah we took out the infant seat all the time. the toddler one, never
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Post by: vansmack on November 14, 2011, 02:04:17 pm
Bleggghhh.  Babies.  There is no amount you could pay me to hit the reset button on that clock again.

For me, this post is right up there with "Snape kills dumbledore."
Title: Re: Automobiles
Post by: vansmack on November 14, 2011, 02:38:26 pm
I'm rethinking my opposition to mini vans. (http://www.sacbee.com/2011/11/14/4052944/buyer-of-minivan-finds-hidden.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter#mi_rss=Latest News)
Title: Re: Automobiles
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on November 14, 2011, 02:52:25 pm
my honda will die at some point . . . so close to 200000.   is honda still the company of choice for reliability and lasting length?  i remember at one point toyota was ruling, then ford came on strong.  i want another honda if possible, or a truck if choosing something outside honda.
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Post by: hutch on November 14, 2011, 04:40:11 pm
my honda will die at some point . . . so close to 200000.   is honda still the company of choice for reliability and lasting length?  i remember at one point toyota was ruling, then ford came on strong.  i want another honda if possible, or a truck if choosing something outside honda.


dude, just drive to south arlington and see what the hispanics are driving..


whatever THAT is is the company of choice for reliability


a lot of toyotas and hondas still out there.. the ocassional acura..
Title: Re: Automobiles
Post by: James Ford on November 14, 2011, 05:07:51 pm
But why would you want 500K in cocaine?

I'm rethinking my opposition to mini vans. (http://www.sacbee.com/2011/11/14/4052944/buyer-of-minivan-finds-hidden.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter#mi_rss=Latest News)
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Post by: vansmack on November 14, 2011, 05:43:02 pm
But why would you want 500K in cocaine?

To supplement my porn business.  Duh.
Title: Re: Automobiles
Post by: ggw on February 17, 2012, 01:46:11 pm
VW Tiguan v. Kia Sportage v. Hyundai Tuscon

Discuss.

So what car did you end up with?
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Post by: nkotb on February 17, 2012, 02:58:12 pm
Thanks...was looking for this thread the other day and got too lazy to find it.

VW Tiguan v. Kia Sportage v. Hyundai Tuscon

Discuss.

So what car did you end up with?
Title: Re: Automobiles
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on February 17, 2012, 03:08:16 pm
VW Tiguan v. Kia Sportage v. Hyundai Tuscon

Discuss.

So what car did you end up with?

decided to hold onto the 2004 matrix for the time being, but i'm making good headway on the wagon v. suv argument.
Title: Re: Automobiles
Post by: chaz on February 17, 2012, 03:45:39 pm
I got a 2004 Explorer with 78k miles loaded and totally perfect for 8 grand. 

score

gas is a killer.  but it's no surprise.
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Post by: vansmack on February 20, 2012, 01:20:19 pm
I'm torn between the Audi A3 TDI and the Lexus CT 200h.

After driving them both, there wasn't even a decision to make.  The A3 TDI won hands down and is now in my garage.  It's been two weeks and with the price of unleaded catching diesel and probably soon to surpass it, I'm feeling strong about the decision.
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Post by: i am gay and i like cats on February 20, 2012, 01:26:22 pm
i am mad honda stopped making the element.  i liked it.  and i want another.
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Post by: RatBastard on February 21, 2012, 06:45:42 pm
I'll stick with my Accords.  I am bout to go buy another one, most likely a three year old model.  I currently drive a 96 accord that I bought in 99.  Still going strong, long since paid for, and very dependable.  Just time for an additional vehicle.  (Currently 237k miles)
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Post by: Dr. Anton Phibes on February 23, 2012, 12:03:16 am

ggw's Rover is sweet.....but I still think I have the bigger one......gas hog,that is....
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Post by: K8teebug on February 24, 2012, 10:38:45 am
I had to let my little green civic go last year when the transmission went after 250,000K.  Was hoping to make it to 300,000.  I bought an Acura TSX.  I love it.  It was between that an a Volvo C30.  They wouldn't deal on the C30 at all, and that pissed me off, plus I got a really nice deal on the TSX.
Title: Re: Automobiles
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on May 29, 2012, 11:16:34 am
I am not a fan of the crossover SUV genre in general.  In general, I would get a station wagon before a mini SUV. I do like Subaru, but I would get an Outback before a Forester.  I would get a Touareg instead of a Tiguan.

Or you can go all in on the suburban douche factor like me and get a Range Rover (a proper Range Rover - not that dumbed-down Sport version). 

Just got a Forester.  Ultimately came down to that and the Tiguan, and the Forester was just a ton more practical.
Title: Re: Automobiles
Post by: lagas on May 30, 2012, 12:32:45 pm
2012 Mazda 2, pretty happy with it  :-*
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Post by: hutch on May 31, 2012, 12:19:58 am
last year i bought a 91 acura legend with 46,000 miles on it...

Title: Re: Automobiles
Post by: grateful on April 15, 2024, 01:47:15 pm
A few years ago I walked into a dealer and asked for the cheapest car on the lot. They showed me what looked like a cardboard box, with manual everything. So I said, uhhhhh, show me the second cheapest car on the lot. It was a 12 year old Honda Civic with a manual transmission at 42K miles on it, for $10K. It's now up to 75K and it keeps on going.
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Post by: Space Freely on April 15, 2024, 01:53:39 pm
A few years ago I walked into a dealer and asked for the cheapest car on the lot. They showed me what looked like a cardboard box, with manual everything. So I said, uhhhhh, show me the second cheapest car on the lot. It was a 12 year old Honda Civic with a manual transmission at 42K miles on it, for $10K. It's now up to 75K and it keeps on going.

Was this for one of the kids? I always assume that anyone who posts here and is 40+ is richer and drives a nicer car than me.

Not that the Honda Civic isn't nice. You'll probably get another 100K miles on it.

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Post by: Hutch on April 15, 2024, 02:13:52 pm
I am amazed when I see neighbors here in Arlington buying their just turned 15 year olds brand new jeeps.

Guess I shouldn’t be…

In other car related news I hit a parked car when attempting to park earlier today. Really just scraped the other car but will probably cost me $1000
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Post by: Yada on April 15, 2024, 02:58:01 pm
A few years ago I walked into a dealer and asked for the cheapest car on the lot. They showed me what looked like a cardboard box, with manual everything. So I said, uhhhhh, show me the second cheapest car on the lot. It was a 12 year old Honda Civic with a manual transmission at 42K miles on it, for $10K. It's now up to 75K and it keeps on going.

Was this for one of the kids? I always assume that anyone who posts here and is 40+ is richer and drives a nicer car than me.

Not that the Honda Civic isn't nice. You'll probably get another 100K miles on it.

came here for the space reaction... like clockwork!
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Post by: Space Freely on April 15, 2024, 03:44:46 pm
I am amazed when I see neighbors here in Arlington buying their just turned 15 year olds brand new jeeps.

Guess I shouldn’t be…

In other car related news I hit a parked car when attempting to park earlier today. Really just scraped the other car but will probably cost me $1000

Is the damage to your car, their car, or both?

I did this very thing years ago. The owners were *in* the other car. I was not drunk, just stupidly careless. The happy karmic ending was that all of the damage was on my car. So the guy didn't punch me out or anything.  Still haven't gotten it fixed (completely cosmetic), despite numerous offers from complete strangers to hammer it out for a fee.
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Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 15, 2024, 03:56:39 pm
someone sideswiped my car in front of my house and actually left the insurance info

got the sideview mirror and some damage to front bumper...called their insurance and they sent me a $500
I replaced the sideview mirror for $75 and pocketed the rest
Title: Re: Automobiles
Post by: grateful on April 15, 2024, 04:02:58 pm
Someone sideswiped me in front of my house, left no such note and did >$4K worth of damage. Car was in the shop for over a month due to the difficulty getting parts. Huge PITA, but at least I got to drive an upgraded loaner...much nicer than my car!


All the damage was covered by Maryland's Uninsured Motorists Fund...so it didn't hit my policy
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Post by: Cock Van Der Palm on April 16, 2024, 01:52:39 pm
NM

A few years ago I walked into a dealer and asked for the cheapest car on the lot. They showed me what looked like a cardboard box, with manual everything. So I said, uhhhhh, show me the second cheapest car on the lot. It was a 12 year old Honda Civic with a manual transmission at 42K miles on it, for $10K. It's now up to 75K and it keeps on going.

Was this for one of the kids? I always assume that anyone who posts here and is 40+ is richer and drives a nicer car than me.

Not that the Honda Civic isn't nice. You'll probably get another 100K miles on it.