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Title: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on July 22, 2012, 08:41:42 pm
New thread to keep other on topic. And we needed this, anyway.

The G4S Corporate Theme Song....

http://www.thestoolpigeon.co.uk/features/g4s-corporate-song-securing-your-world.html

Yeah  it's as bad you think...

I've said to others that if you want to hear what mainstream rock sounded like 20 years ago, listen to country radio today. Jon Bon Jovi knew exactly what he was doing.

(http://www.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_606w/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2012/07/16/Style/Images/143581023.jpg)

For rock and pop stars, including Staind?s Aaron Lewis, country isn?t an easy genre to crack (http://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/music/for-rock-and-pop-stars-including-stainds-aaron-lewis-country-isnt-an-easy-genre-to-crack/2012/07/19/gJQAlkxPwW_story.html)

Because Darius Rucker already beat them there?  And isn't Bon Jovi's current stuff sounding more and more Country Rock these days, so is that because Country Rock caught up with them?

Bon Jovi's core fans from his hair metal salad days are now well into their 40s (and a few beyond). Many probably listen to country because indie, alternative, classic rock, and CHR ignore them. But they like radio and country is the only format that appeals to them. New stuff from Bon Jovi didn't stand a chance on any rock or hit format so he subtly retooled his sound to satisfy his core fans' current sensibilities. That change meshed in well with current country.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: slappy on July 23, 2012, 11:07:44 am
Good interview just posted on Mother Jones with Ketch Secor from Old Crow Medicine Show.
http://www.motherjones.com/media/2012/07/interview-old-crow-medicine-show (http://www.motherjones.com/media/2012/07/interview-old-crow-medicine-show)

I bet he'd agree with you on Bon Jovi.

"That stuff coming out of Nashville now wants to see a woman looking good in the kitchen whipping up some biscuits. A woman who knows how to handle her minivan at the mall. It's a concrete jungle out there, darlin'. Turn up your radio and get into a bubble bath kind of thing."
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: evilizac on July 23, 2012, 01:28:23 pm
The fact of the matter is that the mainstream is entirely populated with highly calculated low risk acts regardless of genre. Any country that isn't in the strict vein of its set type is quickly picked up by some "indie" community.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 23, 2012, 02:29:18 pm
though i know most venues hate the jam band scene due to all those crazy kids wanting to smoke pot . . . but damn you know they love the amount of alcohol they sell at those shows.  i went to see coldplay and the wall, was a ghost town at the lines; kiss/motley crue, yeah they were buying but not in waves of good god how long do i have to wait in this line.  now at any jam show (phish/moe/widespread/furthur/dso/disco) you have people fighting hand over fist to get beer.  beer lines at jam shows are sure ways to miss a bunch of songs.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on August 07, 2012, 10:39:09 am
EDM RIP 2012- First Brostep and now this - Mark Foster (of Foster the people) has a forthcoming Electronic Dance music side project. 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on August 07, 2012, 01:18:46 pm
http://entertainment.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/07/13054841-wtf-is-this-the-millennial-generations-woodstock?lite

this seems like for people WLM (With Lots or Loads of Money) where everything and anything there would cost insane amounts of money.  like what they were charging for booklets and t shirts at the verizon roger waters the wall show.  and lines not worth waiting in at each booth.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: vansmack on August 07, 2012, 01:37:47 pm
I don't like country music, but I'm glad my girlfriend does.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on August 07, 2012, 02:08:14 pm
http://entertainment.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/07/13054841-wtf-is-this-the-millennial-generations-woodstock?lite

this seems like for people WLM (With Lots or Loads of Money) where everything and anything there would cost insane amounts of money.  like what they were charging for booklets and t shirts at the verizon roger waters the wall show.  and lines not worth waiting in at each booth.

what do think is driving all this monster boxset and deluxe releases at this point.  i'm sure that bands that still have even a small but very loyal fanbase, know they are doing already well enought to cough up premium dollars for a well put together re-release.  also, look at the success of some of those kickstarter campaigns where even the premiums in the hundreds of dollars are snapped up.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on August 07, 2012, 02:46:52 pm
http://entertainment.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/07/13054841-wtf-is-this-the-millennial-generations-woodstock?lite

this seems like for people WLM (With Lots or Loads of Money) where everything and anything there would cost insane amounts of money.  like what they were charging for booklets and t shirts at the verizon roger waters the wall show.  and lines not worth waiting in at each booth.

what do think is driving all this monster boxset and deluxe releases at this point.  i'm sure that bands that still have even a small but very loyal fanbase, know they are doing already well enought to cough up premium dollars for a well put together re-release.  also, look at the success of some of those kickstarter campaigns where even the premiums in the hundreds of dollars are snapped up.

short version of this nerds/geeks have lots of disposable cash
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on August 07, 2012, 09:21:47 pm
I hope everyone has enjoyed seeing M83 in more intimate venues as a track of that group has now appeared on a Now That's What I Call Music compilation. Kind wanted a Skrillex track to show on one of those to continue with the death of EDM in 2012.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on August 09, 2012, 07:23:57 pm
Beck's next album on pre-Edison format only (http://gawker.com/5933398/becks-new-album-consists-solely-of-paper-sheet-music-that-you-the-listener-must-play)

Seeking an even less user-friendly alternative to vinyl, singer Beck has announced that his upcoming album will be released solely as individual pieces of sheet music, placing the onus of "playing music that can be heard" on consumers themselves.

According to the musician's website, Beck Handsen's Song Reader will consist of twenty songs' worth of sheet music, assembled into twenty individual song booklets, each decorated with "full-color, heyday-of- home-play-inspired art," and stored in a "lavishly produced hardcover carrying case."

The full package is reportedly "as visually absorbing as a dozen gatefold LPs put together," or, in layman's terms, as visually absorbing as a dozen foldout pictures.

But what of the music itself? Beck's website assures readers that the songs are really quite good, particularly for musicians who have been trained to play them, like Beck.


cont.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on August 09, 2012, 09:21:55 pm
Translation: Beck Hasn't done anything worthwhile in almost a decade and wants to get his name in the press again.

I still say it was downhill after One Foot in the Grave.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on August 19, 2012, 09:17:58 pm
(http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/terminal05/2012/8/18/18/enhanced-buzz-20652-1345330514-0.jpg)


MUSIC MAP OF GREAT BRITISH BANDS

http://www.pello.co.uk/art/best-of-british/music-map-great-british-bands/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 20, 2012, 10:04:14 pm
Just found the most awesome website ever...

http://musichistoryingifs.com/
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m96vv20O9g1rbgzizo1_500.gif)(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8cwg8EjOF1rbgzizo1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomicfront on September 21, 2012, 04:17:47 pm
Just found the most awesome website ever...

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7odpc4lfy1rbgzizo1_500.gif)

"1965.  bob dylan plays his first electric set at the newport folk festival.  his dumb acoustic fans are all “booooo”
 
later they realize they were dumb."


Perhaps the fans weren't booing because Dylan went electric...maybe they were booing because he can't sing.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on January 31, 2013, 01:31:33 am
Kraftwerk: the most influential group in pop history? (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/rockandpopfeatures/9837423/Kraftwerk-the-most-influential-group-in-pop-history.html)

Andy McCluskey: "When you listen to pop now, do you hear the Beatles, or do you hear electronic, synthetic, computer-based grooves?"
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 01, 2013, 06:12:13 pm
I don't know why they don't just rename "All Things Music" to "All Things Indie Rock" and be done with it.   
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 01, 2013, 11:35:02 pm
I don't know why they don't just rename "All Things Music" to "All Things Indie Rock" and be done with it.  

woah looks like evilsanta doesn't take dictation well...

what I meant to say was "I don't know why they don't just rename "All Songs Considered" to "All Indie Rock Consider" and be done with it." 

of course that doesn't work either so i'm going to bed... 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 07, 2013, 02:43:42 pm
I'm interested to see what comes next from Kylie Minogue now that's she's assigned to Jay-Z's Roc Nation label. 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 12, 2013, 04:02:21 pm
Since I already posted this in the "Hey Seth" thread, I hope he can make the Daptone Records Super Soul Review happen at Merrieweather.  Especially now that it's happening at SXSW.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 12, 2013, 11:36:17 pm
Today I got a digital download for a Kickstarter project and instead of usinka Bandcamp to fulfill the digital files which gives FLAC as an option.  The artist sent along the AIFFs of the tracks.  That's a first for a digital distribution from at Kickstarter.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 25, 2013, 09:49:40 pm
Snoopy Dogg or is it Lion is doing a guest verse on the new Fitz and Tantrums album, talk about a band desperate to make it big... Wonder if Fitz and his guitaristless indie rock band disguised as a soul group, will discover that guitar was a bigger part of soul then he claims.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: bearman🐻 on February 26, 2013, 10:52:21 am
Kraftwerk: the most influential group in pop history? (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/rockandpopfeatures/9837423/Kraftwerk-the-most-influential-group-in-pop-history.html)

Andy McCluskey: "When you listen to pop now, do you hear the Beatles, or do you hear electronic, synthetic, computer-based grooves?"

Those 2 Kraftwerk shows at the 9:30 Club were incredible. That tour was phenomenal.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: StoneTheCrow on February 26, 2013, 11:52:44 am
Fitz and his guitaristless indie rock band disguised as a soul group

They're awful.  Tho I thought they were more like a guitar-less bubblegum pop/soul band.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 26, 2013, 07:48:02 pm
Fitz and his guitaristless indie rock band disguised as a soul group

They're awful.  Tho I thought they were more like a guitar-less bubblegum pop/soul band.

I'm being mild facetious about them being an indie rock band disguised, but that's a pretty much sums them up.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 26, 2013, 07:51:37 pm
Obviously this isn't the first time an offspring has taken over for a parent in a band but this would be good show to see...  I had no idea about the BRMC/The Call connection until after Micheal Been had passed away, he served as the bands soundman for several years.

*****

It gives us great pleasure to announce to you all that the seminal rock group 'The Call' will be reuniting with B.R.M.C.'.s Robert Been for two select shows!!!

Disbanded in 1990 The Call's original members Scott Musick, Tom Ferrier, and Jim Goodwin will be taking the stage with Robert Been, taking over the role of bass and vocals in honor of his father, the late Michael Been - twenty years since their last live show!

But now for the really exciting news - Tickets go on sale on Friday March 1st from www.the-call-band.com

April 18th: San Francisco, CA / Slim's

April 19th: Los Angeles, CA / The Troubadour
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Jaguar on February 26, 2013, 09:50:23 pm
Why is it that we only hear about these things after the fact? Heard that it was fairly good.

The Bayou Documentary (http://www.mtitv.com/BayouBlog/)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Bombay Chutney on February 27, 2013, 10:46:52 am
Why is it that we only hear about these things after the fact? Heard that it was fairly good.

The Bayou Documentary (http://www.mtitv.com/BayouBlog/)

I saw this a couple months ago and enjoyed it quite a bit.  It's got a nice background on the very early days of the club, which I had no clue about.  It was also nice to confirm my memories of why I hated going there in the end (Lois, the bouncers, etc.)    Worth checking out, if they show it again.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: wml7 on February 27, 2013, 01:25:01 pm
It's official now Scott Weiland fired from Stone Temple Pilots
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/stone-temple-pilots-fire-scott-weiland-20130227
 ;D
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: chaz on February 27, 2013, 01:26:48 pm
It's official now Scott Weiland fired from Stone Temple Pilots
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/stone-temple-pilots-fire-scott-weiland-20130227
 ;D
He needs to start a band with Dave Navarro.  That would be the perfect match. 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 28, 2013, 01:53:40 pm
Not only does the lead singer of the High Strung have an 2 solo records out including an epic double solo album out with 36 tracks on it  :o  http://joshmalerman.bandcamp.com/

he also has a book, "Bird Box", he's written that's set to be published and been already been optioned as a movie. 

Talk about a renaissance man, next thing you know he'll be painting as well...

I wonder what the dynamic in a band is when one of members suddenly has a six figure deal for a movie/book deal.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: bearman🐻 on February 28, 2013, 02:36:49 pm
For any fans of AIR, here's a great version of "Dirty Trip": http://soundcloud.com/astralwerks/air-dirty-trip-live-in-los
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 12, 2013, 05:28:26 am
 ;D

Mumford and Sons vs The Lumineers - Funny or Die weighs in

http://www.funnyordie.com/articles/321558bb86/mumford-sons-vs-the-lumineers-which-is-the-better-band?playlist=featured_pictures_and_words
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 14, 2013, 06:32:53 pm
Can anyone explain CHVRCHES?  I'm finding it pretty un-listenable too...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomicfront on March 14, 2013, 11:12:04 pm
;D

Mumford and Sons vs The Lumineers - Funny or Die weighs in

http://www.funnyordie.com/articles/321558bb86/mumford-sons-vs-the-lumineers-which-is-the-better-band?playlist=featured_pictures_and_words

you are like a broken record. we get it you don't like music that came out in the last 20 years.  You don't have to posting the same thing over and over again.  it is boring.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 16, 2013, 11:57:49 am
Johnny Marr is doing both Electronic and Smiths songs in the UK.

http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/johnny-marr/2013/o2-academy-oxford-oxford-england-23db5cc7.html1.

The Right Thing Right 
Stop Me If You Think You've Heard This One Before  (The Smiths song)
Upstarts 
Sun & Moon 
Forbidden City  (Electronic song)
European Me 
London  (The Smiths song)
Lockdown
The Messenger 
Generate! Generate! 
Say Demesne 
Bigmouth Strikes Again  (The Smiths song)
Word Starts Attack 
New Town Velocity 
I Want the Heartbeat 

Encore:
16.
Getting Away With It  (Electronic song)
How Soon Is Now?  (The Smiths song)
There Is A Light That Never Goes Out (The Smiths song)






Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on March 16, 2013, 12:17:24 pm
on the one hand its exciting that Marr is going to be performing Smiths/Electronic songs he co-wrote...seems only fair too


on the other hand hearing anyone other than Bernard Sumner and Morrissey singing these songs seems so wrong....but I probably feel like that because those are two of my favorite voices


from the youtube clips i saw it seemed quite good but did have a bit of a karaoke feel...

and lets face it. makes me more likely to attend.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 25, 2013, 09:01:12 pm
http://bargainbinblasphemy.tumblr.com/

Bargin Bin album covers turned into fake Death Metal bands.  All kinds of win \m/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on March 26, 2013, 09:30:21 am
http://bargainbinblasphemy.tumblr.com/

Bargin Bin album covers turned into fake Death Metal bands.  All kinds of win \m/

Thank you...thank you.  These are really quite delightful :)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 27, 2013, 10:43:11 am
Sweet that Reigning Sound is recording at Daptone Records for their new record.  Eight track goodness...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 28, 2013, 11:35:56 am
Foxygen cancel Eurpoean Tour due to "creative health of the band"  ?????

http://www.clashmusic.com/news/foxygen-cancel-european-tour

Is that code for we went out on whirlwind tours to soon in our careers, when we should have been honing our live chops on a local/regional level first?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomicfront on March 28, 2013, 11:45:55 am
Foxygen cancel Eurpoean Tour due to "creative health of the band"  ?????

http://www.clashmusic.com/news/foxygen-cancel-european-tour

Is that code for we went out on whirlwind tours to soon in our careers, when we should have been honing our live chops on a local/regional level first?

They just played the Golden West Cafe.. I don't think is ever too early in your career to play there.  I heard from someone who went to the show that they were awful live.  It probably comes down to not practicing enough before touring.

Foxygen have been around a lot longer than Of Monsters and Men and when I saw them live last year they put on probably  one of the ten best shows I have seen in my life.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on March 30, 2013, 12:39:08 am
If we are talking suck ass bands again let's not forget...

U2
Rush
Dave Mathews
Boston (for you old fucks)
Journey (for you semi-old fucks)

I love Boston's first and like their second. The funny thing about Boston's first is that it was more indie than most well-known indie bands. Most of it was played by Tom Scholz himself and recorded on 12-track in his own basement and on his own dime. It wasn't "corporate" rock; the sound he invented was copied by everyone else and that became corporate rock.

Journey is actually older than Boston and started as a jazz-rock spinoff of Santana. They went nowhere, so they hired a candyass singer and invented Glee.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Jaguar on April 12, 2013, 05:49:15 pm
I could easily nit pick and tear this article to death but I won't bother.

Shoegaze: the genre that could not be killed
Formerly a UK music press term of abuse for hapless Thames Valley indie types who hid behind their fringes, now everyone's glad to be 'gaze (http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2013/apr/12/shoegazing-back-in-fashion)

-Edit-
Just got a look at the Spotify list with the article and it looks amazingly like what I've been airing on Air Atlantic Underground Radio (http://www.live365.com/stations/airatlantic) for all these years.  8)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Jaguar on April 12, 2013, 06:38:31 pm
A good list for your next trip into NYC:

Vinyl Sale: NYC Music Stores (http://www.nycgo.com/articles/vinyl-sale-nyc-music-stores/?a=1&b=1&pid=hp-hero-drgbl-9)

(http://www.nycgo.com/images/460x285/KimsVideoAndMusic_V1_460x285_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Jaguar on April 16, 2013, 09:52:36 am
I would love to have these (http://www.sundazed.com/shop/product_info.php?products_id=2394), but alas, I must be a responsible human being.  :(


(http://www.sundazed.com/shop/images/LP5178-color-vinyl-mini.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on May 07, 2013, 02:58:27 pm
(http://bandcampblog.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/tapes-600.jpg?w=900&h=350)

Rewind! The Cassette is Back. (http://blog.bandcamp.com/2013/05/07/rewind-the-cassette-is-back/)

The International Federation of the Phonographic Industry released their report of 2 million cassette tapes sold worldwide? Sales in the UK alone tripled last year.

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomicfront on May 07, 2013, 03:17:58 pm
(http://bandcampblog.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/tapes-600.jpg?w=900&h=350)

Rewind! The Cassette is Back. (http://blog.bandcamp.com/2013/05/07/rewind-the-cassette-is-back/)

The International Federation of the Phonographic Industry released their report of 2 million cassette tapes sold worldwide? Sales in the UK alone tripled last year.



Cassettes suck.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Jaguar on May 07, 2013, 03:28:03 pm
^ I agree and refuse to fall for the hype.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Relaxer on May 07, 2013, 03:59:51 pm
Yeah, that's just retro with the intention of being contrary.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: vansmack on May 07, 2013, 04:26:15 pm
I love Boston's first and like their second. The funny thing about Boston's first is that it was more indie than most well-known indie bands. Most of it was played by Tom Scholz himself and recorded on 12-track in his own basement and on his own dime. It wasn't "corporate" rock; the sound he invented was copied by everyone else and that became corporate rock.

Journey is actually older than Boston and started as a jazz-rock spinoff of Santana. They went nowhere, so they hired a candyass singer and invented Glee.

I somehow missed these comments when they were posted.  They are both spot on.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Jaguar on May 07, 2013, 06:17:39 pm
An interesting family tree:

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/270853_610336538996201_230057969_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: slappy on May 07, 2013, 08:26:08 pm
Jeez, I never thought about their 'family tree' but it is indeed impressive.

Sober, I can think of a few more they could've included:
Dead Meadow
The Triffids
The Church
The Clientele
The Wild Swans
Dilettantes
The Rebel Drones
Mellow Drunk
Freelovebabies
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on May 07, 2013, 10:08:02 pm
i think i know like three bands on that page.  and who is bjm?  not everybody knows every band and i hate when people cant just spell out whole band names . . . has it gotten that bad.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on May 07, 2013, 10:26:23 pm
Brian Jonestown Massacre and I'm a bit flabbergasted about this tree, having no idea so many of Anton Newcombe band mates went on to so many projects.  Anton BTW is a totally trip on twitter...

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Brian_Jonestown_Massacre_members
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on May 07, 2013, 10:34:21 pm
oh yeah . . . i remember some time ago i made fun of their name, and came up with some other like minded silly band names.  i wish i could remember them.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Jaguar on May 07, 2013, 11:04:10 pm
Slappy, Mellow Drunk is on there. ;) Good band that just never seemed to make it beyond the various musical social media sites. Gotta say that you certainly know your BJM and their history! I would have never realized that there were so many spawns.

Where's Sparx when we need him?

If I'm not mistaken, Daydream Nation are another missing branch.

Don't know when this was created but it is interesting.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on May 08, 2013, 06:50:54 am
Whoa Anton is on Twitter?


BRB

There he is!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on May 08, 2013, 07:53:01 am
weird anton has disappeared from twitter recently... watching him work on remixes with Tim Burgess over twitter and banter with Andy Partridge was fun.  he's a bit like walkie on twitter (conspiracy theories and the like)   but there are no cat pictures involved.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on May 08, 2013, 09:05:08 am
Yeah the last post was on 4/23.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on May 09, 2013, 12:08:00 pm
http://trustmeimascientist.com/2013/05/06/reinventing-the-album-keeping-releases-relevant-in-the-21st-century/
This article is worth reading, if you are interested in the current state of music releases.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on May 09, 2013, 12:18:16 pm
Also this wiki of Digital vs Analog format myths is worth a read.  I see way too much "vinyl is better" talk, with anything to back it up; except "it sounds better."

http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=Myths_%28Vinyl%29
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on May 09, 2013, 01:06:22 pm
Also this wiki of Digital vs Analog format myths is worth a read.  I see way too much "vinyl is better" talk, with anything to back it up; except "it sounds better."

http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=Myths_%28Vinyl%29

pure awesomeness.  neither side is right, both CDs and vinyl have their merits and detractions... but the self-delusion and self-importance that vinyl jukies speak with is beyond annoying.  it's insulting.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on May 09, 2013, 01:09:37 pm
The most annoying self-delusion comes from people who think that MP3 files sound good.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on May 09, 2013, 01:14:11 pm
Also this wiki of Digital vs Analog format myths is worth a read.  I see way too much "vinyl is better" talk, with anything to back it up; except "it sounds better."

http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=Myths_%28Vinyl%29

pure awesomeness.  neither side is right, both CDs and vinyl have their merits and detractions... but the self-delusion and self-importance that vinyl jukies speak with is beyond annoying.  it's insulting.

It was never about sound. It was instead about differentiation. As indie mainstreamed, elitists had to find something to separate themselves from the hoi polloi. 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: K8teebug on May 09, 2013, 01:15:23 pm
Can anyone explain CHVRCHES?  I'm finding it pretty un-listenable too...

heinous.

Along with Haim.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on May 09, 2013, 01:48:31 pm
The most annoying self-delusion comes from people who think that MP3 files sound good.

MP3 files *do* sound good when listening to music through disposable white earbuds - which is how most music is consumed these days.

i can't find it at the moment, but there is an awesome image that made the rounds a while ago who's message was: $3,000 guitar --> $5,000 microphone --> $8,000 preamp --> $50,000 signal chain --> $1.5M mixing desk --> 99 cent earphones.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on May 09, 2013, 02:27:23 pm
http://blog.iso50.com/31794/radiohead-on-a-wood-record/
There you go! Two things everyone loves, together! Records and Radiohead! Damn the sound!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on May 09, 2013, 03:23:57 pm
The most annoying self-delusion comes from people who think that MP3 files sound good.

MP3 files *do* sound good when listening to music through disposable white earbuds - which is how most music is consumed these days.

i can't find it at the moment, but there is an awesome image that made the rounds a while ago who's message was: $3,000 guitar --> $5,000 microphone --> $8,000 preamp --> $50,000 signal chain --> $1.5M mixing desk --> 99 cent earphones.

MP3 files sounding good? What the mix is no longer brickwalled?  what kind of magic is this you speak of??? voodoo music?

I'm sorry but that is not possible... not only do MP3s of modern music tend to sound like crap but they make it so the records and cds for those of us that , you know, still buy albums also sound like crap

its disgusting.. the new phoenix is almost ruined due to brickwalling so people can think their "mp3s sound good" cause they blast out or something

cause you know its only music so why should how it sounds matter...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on May 09, 2013, 03:26:15 pm
Also this wiki of Digital vs Analog format myths is worth a read.  I see way too much "vinyl is better" talk, with anything to back it up; except "it sounds better."



umm cause it fuckin' does sound better...

now modern vinyl mastered from shit mixes made for mp3s often does suck.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on May 09, 2013, 03:28:35 pm
and if you think it sucks to hear how vinyl sounds better how much do you think it sucked for over a decade to hear people asking "ummm.. why  would you possibly buy records??"


I just couldn't get people to understand that records, you know, tended to sound better than CDs...forget about MP3s which are the biggest con yet... yeah bigger than getting everyone to throw away their records and buy CDs cause they "sounded better"...some of those early CD issues sound atrocious because they hardly spent a second on mastering them.. so eager was the industry to get the product to the racks so that the chumps would buy their 15.99$ reissues..

lucky for me i had some time to stock up on vinyl....

but , yeah, listen to vinyl like Miles Davis and tell me the CD sounds better.. no fuckin way.

no fuckin' way the cd sounds anywhere close to as good as the original six eye....
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on May 09, 2013, 04:27:55 pm
and if you think it sucks to hear how vinyl sounds better how much do you think it sucked for over a decade to hear people asking "ummm.. why  would you possibly buy records??"


I just couldn't get people to understand that records, you know, tended to sound better than CDs...forget about MP3s which are the biggest con yet... yeah bigger than getting everyone to throw away their records and buy CDs cause they "sounded better"...some of those early CD issues sound atrocious because they hardly spent a second on mastering them.. so eager was the industry to get the product to the racks so that the chumps would buy their 15.99$ reissues..

lucky for me i had some time to stock up on vinyl....

but , yeah, listen to vinyl like Miles Davis and tell me the CD sounds better.. no fuckin way.

no fuckin' way the cd sounds anywhere close to as good as the original six eye....

hutch, deal with it: vinyl has its pluses, and it has some serious minuses.  your assertion that "vinyl sounds better than CDs" is not a fact, it's an opinion.  vinyl has pops, hiss, wow & flutter... all distortions that are not found on the original master. 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on May 09, 2013, 04:28:30 pm
The most annoying self-delusion comes from people who think that MP3 files sound good.

MP3 files *do* sound good when listening to music through disposable white earbuds - which is how most music is consumed these days.

i can't find it at the moment, but there is an awesome image that made the rounds a while ago who's message was: $3,000 guitar --> $5,000 microphone --> $8,000 preamp --> $50,000 signal chain --> $1.5M mixing desk --> 99 cent earphones.

MP3 files sounding good? What the mix is no longer brickwalled?  what kind of magic is this you speak of??? voodoo music?

i take it your sarcasm meter is broken today ;D
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on May 09, 2013, 04:29:54 pm
Vinyl sucked when CDs were introduced (unless you were buying audiophile pressings at twice the price). Between the warpage, off-centeredness, stitching, orange-peel, factory scratches, mangled sleeves, and other defects, you were more than lucky to get a good copy. Nowadays, vinyl is mostly pressed with tender loving care and on heavier discs. Colored vinyl is much more common now. But the capacity for present plants has pretty much been reached and QC is reportedly declining. Replacement parts for presses are getting hard to come by. The need for more capacity is obvious but the cost of investing in new machinery is enormous. While sales for vinyl have gone up for several years now, the rate of increase is plateauing. This means that investing in new capacity is even riskier.

When CDs were introduced cassettes were already outselling LPs nearly two to one (because of the Walkman) and the difference was expanding. So it was an obviously correct business decision to reduce LPs to make way for CDs.

Early CDs suffered from a dearth of engineers familiar with digital audio. Yet record companies quickly issued their catalogs on the format to take advantage of its exploding sales. This led to many releases suffering from bad sound because shoddy later generation masters were used and they were not properly mastered for the format. By the mid 90s there were many more engineers properly trained in digital audio and the technology had vastly improved. Many remasters sounded much better than their initial releases. But the loudness war was gearing up, as well as MP3/Napster and the vinyl revival.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on May 10, 2013, 07:58:31 am
Can anyone explain CHVRCHES?  I'm finding it pretty un-listenable too...

heinous.

Along with Haim.

This whole "indie disco" movement is producing some un-listenable stuff..  And it's a far away from real disco as it can get.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on May 10, 2013, 08:40:05 am
purchasing new LPs is a crapshoot... a very high percentage is warped for some reason...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on May 10, 2013, 10:35:03 am
The warping adds to the fidelity. 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on May 10, 2013, 10:44:20 am
The warping adds to the fidelity. 

I think they added that vintage "warped" sound to the digital versions of the new MBV album.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on May 10, 2013, 06:44:55 pm
http://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=2484010
A nice article on "Finite difference-based sound synthesis using graphics processors."
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 10, 2013, 09:57:37 pm
Has anyone hear anything about this HR "Finding Joseph I" kickstarter?

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/hrdocumentary/hr-finding-joseph-i (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/hrdocumentary/hr-finding-joseph-i)

if done right this could be very watchable!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on May 12, 2013, 02:51:40 pm
Because "men" are stupid: The Ultimate Workout Song of 2013 (http://news.menshealth.com/the-ultimate-workout-song-of-2013/2013/05/03/)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on May 13, 2013, 11:43:02 am
when i work out, i listen to . . . oh who am i kidding, i havent worked out in over a year, except for my right hand every other day.  and when i do that i listen to online sex.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on May 13, 2013, 01:20:46 pm
A nice read on tips to perfect your mix:
http://blog.indabamusic.com/2011/01/12785-tutorial-12-common-mixing-mistakes/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on May 14, 2013, 04:56:59 pm
(http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr06/2013/5/14/12/enhanced-buzz-24548-1368547950-10.jpg)

26 Signs You Were A College Radio DJ (http://www.buzzfeed.com/mariasherm/26-signs-you-were-a-college-radio-dj)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on May 20, 2013, 09:18:23 pm
http://www.facebook.com/m8pls
(http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/529178_493968267325226_1118969854_n.jpg)
(http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/971655_507314799323906_428067155_n.jpg)
Maybe not for everybody, but I definitely get a kick from the M8 do u even compress page.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Stillwater on May 21, 2013, 03:39:23 pm
LOL

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/9298126/rating-lead-singers-active-bands-2013
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: slappy on May 22, 2013, 10:57:15 am
There could be a separate thread of shit music lists on the innerwebs.
Here's another one...
http://www.spin.com/articles/best-drummers-list-alternative-music/?slide=100 (http://www.spin.com/articles/best-drummers-list-alternative-music/?slide=100)

I'd like to know their definition of 'alternative'.
Funk is alternative but reggae isn't?

A drum machine makes the list but Sly Dunbar, Grant Hart, Curtis Crowe of Pylon, Sterling Campbell, Colm Ó Cíosóig are not included.

Tony Thompson at 60 and Chad Smith at 10 says it all.


 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on May 24, 2013, 02:06:23 pm
Music-centric Onion copycat site: Equalizer Magazine (http://equalizermag.com/)

?Vinyl Purist? Identified As Primary Suspect In Slaying Of 22-year-old Traktor DJ (http://equalizermag.com/news/vinyl-purist-identified-as-primary-suspect-in-slaying-of-22-year-old-traktor-dj/)

Unreleased Boards of Canada Seven-Inch Discovered Beneath Feces At Dog Park (http://equalizermag.com/news/unreleased-boards-of-canada-7-inch-discovered-beneath-feces-at-dog-park/)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on June 02, 2013, 04:53:59 pm
This interview with Gaahl (http://thequietus.com/articles/12384-gaahl-wardruna-gorgoroth-interview) is an enjoyable read. It sounds as though that VH1 documentary and the Vice interview (which was never touched upon) depicted him rather unfairly.

Edit: one more thought. I wish the interviewer asked him to be more specific about the issues he has with the US.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on June 03, 2013, 11:24:27 am
New Sharon Jones albun delayed as singer under goes treatment for cancer.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on June 14, 2013, 09:19:26 am
The Babys have reformed and what more then songwriting and cardio do you want from a reunited band.  And fess up I knew some here lost their virginities in the backseat while these guys were on the 8track player.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomicfront on June 14, 2013, 09:35:29 am
The Babys have reformed and what more then songwriting and cardio do you want from a reunited band.  And fess up I knew some here lost their virginities in the backseat while these guys were on the 8track player.

8 Track Player? Those were way gone by the time I turned 16.  Never heard the Babys music.  Is that the band John Waite was in?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: bearman🐻 on June 14, 2013, 10:19:36 am
Kim Deal left the Pixies. Bummer.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on June 14, 2013, 10:25:45 am
She probably was tired of living in the past and playing cashgrabtastic shows.


Keili is on WFMU regularly again. Maybe this means more airtime for Killsaly's music.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on June 14, 2013, 10:28:45 am
Oh yeah! I actually plan on sending her some new music over the next couple of months...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on June 14, 2013, 10:37:43 am
Maybe she'll have you in for a live session and I can tag along and be the annoying FMU fanboy.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on June 14, 2013, 10:42:37 am
If that ever happens, then i will definitely take you (and probably Joe, you know he wouldn't want to be left out).
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on June 14, 2013, 11:10:32 am
I recently read the Pixies Oral History (seems weird to write that last bit)

anyways.. its pretty clear from reading it that the Pixies only really existed as functioning band for about a year or two... pretty much all the stuff was written very early on.. most of it probably origially by Frank Black/whatever he goes by today played with Joey....most of it came out on Pilgrim and Surfer but a lot of the later stuff on Doolittle and Trompe were real early songs.. I was surprised by that.... .. I also think a Pixies without Kim is just not workable and I wonder if Kim is just having so much fun touring with the Breeders right now that she decided she wanted to just keep going with that... if she felt she had to leave it makes it seem that something was about to happen be it a tour or new album recording... and she just decided to say no... either way she sure did Joey and Dave a service because without her rejoining the Pixies reunion would not have happened and they needed that money bad..
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: chaz on June 14, 2013, 11:27:20 am
She probably was tired of living in the past
And to remedy that she's touring an album that is 20 years old.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on June 14, 2013, 11:29:06 am
Touche.


Though the Breeders' last effort came out just a few years ago.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on June 14, 2013, 11:30:50 am
John Waite yes in the Babys... And their hit album was on 8-track in the late 70s
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: chaz on June 14, 2013, 11:48:19 am
Touche.


Though the Breeders' last effort came out just a few years ago.


I like the Pixies better than the Breeders.  But I like Pod better than anything the Pixies ever did.  Does not compute.  Do the Breeders even play anything of Pod in concert?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on June 14, 2013, 12:35:05 pm
Touche.


Though the Breeders' last effort came out just a few years ago.


I like the Pixies better than the Breeders.  But I like Pod better than anything the Pixies ever did.  Does not compute.  Do the Breeders even play anything of Pod in concert?

well on this tour they were playing the happiness is a warm gun cover
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomicfront on June 14, 2013, 01:48:30 pm
Touche.


Though the Breeders' last effort came out just a few years ago.


I like the Pixies better than the Breeders.  But I like Pod better than anything the Pixies ever did.  Does not compute.  Do the Breeders even play anything of Pod in concert?

well on this tour they were playing the happiness is a warm gun cover


Father John Misty does that song as well.  Popular song to cover.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on July 03, 2013, 10:39:30 pm
Ke$ha rips off the Residents long standing stage look on her new tour and then her people won't even discuss the matter with someone representing the band.  Boo Hiss

http://music.yahoo.com/blogs/stop-the-presses/does-ke-stage-show-rip-off-residents-193446304.html
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 03, 2013, 11:01:44 pm
do not artists steal from each other all the time, kosmo?  sometimes i question what is real art, and what is before such art.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on July 04, 2013, 07:46:39 am
it's theft walkie... right down to the different colored iris's on her dancers costumes.  all the band wants at this point is an acknowledgement it's their's or just to be asked for permission, but none of that has happened.  it will get ugly if she starts selling her own merchandise with one rock's few iconic looks/imagery on it...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: chancegardener on July 04, 2013, 05:36:06 pm
The Babys' "Head First" is one WAY rockin' song
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on July 04, 2013, 07:40:42 pm
I chalked that Ke$ha/Residents thing up to being nothing more than a tribute at first but refusing to acknowledge them obviously changes that.

Great NYT piece on this Jay-z/Samsung album download deal. (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/05/arts/music/jay-z-is-watching-and-he-knows-your-friends.html?smid=tw-nytimesmusic&seid=auto&_r=0)

P.S. Jay-Z should have called it quits after The Black Album.

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on July 05, 2013, 02:49:53 am
Bruce Russell put together this swell podcast of lesser known Kiwi indie rock. http://soundcloud.com/flyingnunrecords/and-the-maggots-dance-1-2-3
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on July 05, 2013, 10:44:52 am
https://www.facebook.com/m8pls (https://www.facebook.com/m8pls)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/577970_480656185323101_1705279094_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on July 08, 2013, 03:48:16 pm
so whats the deal with Sweden anyways?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on July 09, 2013, 08:45:10 am
Dave Allen on music distribution (http://north.com/thinking/rick-moody-and-dave-allen-discuss-the-music-distribution-problem/)

I think he is totally dead on here. Probably in the minority though.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomicfront on July 09, 2013, 10:20:40 am
Dave Allen on music distribution (http://north.com/thinking/rick-moody-and-dave-allen-discuss-the-music-distribution-problem/)

I think he is totally dead on here. Probably in the minority though.


I don't know what point he is trying to express.  I don't think the guy who played bass on Gang of Four albums and was in Shriekback should expect to be making money off the music industry today.  I talked to bands back in the 80's that had decent selling albums and they said they never made a dime off their album sales.  They were advanced money to make the album and their share of the album sales went to paying off those fees.  I think super star artists were making money back then and superstar artists are making money now. 

Plus now artists are able to put out stuff as long as they want.  Like everyone can do what Amanda Palmer did and cut out the record company and can actually make some money.

He states that record industry is only half of what it was at its peak.  But who is to say it have been at that level. Check out the album sales in the 60's and I doubt they were anywhere near the peak.   

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomicfront on July 09, 2013, 10:27:42 am
Ke$ha rips off the Residents long standing stage look on her new tour and then her people won't even discuss the matter with someone representing the band.  Boo Hiss

http://music.yahoo.com/blogs/stop-the-presses/does-ke-stage-show-rip-off-residents-193446304.html

Why would she copy that look? It is a horrible one.  . 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 10, 2013, 01:51:15 pm
http://www.spin.com/#articles/dinosaur-jr-j-mascis-fifth-greatest-guitarist-all-time-australia-quiz-show/

why did i never know that kurt asked j to join nirvana, twice . . . and j said no twice. 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on July 12, 2013, 02:19:20 pm
For you vinyl purist/non-music tech embracing people:
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1069252_528649887190397_1706838143_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on July 12, 2013, 07:04:16 pm
My peeve is with labels that physically release something only on vinyl (because sound, man) and digitally only in MP3 or iTunes (because BULLSHIT, man).
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomicfront on July 14, 2013, 12:23:14 am
My peeve is with labels that physically release something only on vinyl (because sound, man) and digitally only in MP3 or iTunes (because BULLSHIT, man).

Compact Discs are dead. 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on July 14, 2013, 08:25:23 am
I was apparently DJing in the douchiest club in Chicago last night... at first I though it was spam, but no bot could create such douchbag profiles.

https://twitter.com/_jwalks/status/356290970951761920
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on July 14, 2013, 08:56:00 am
it would appear the douche's smartphone auto-corrected Criz R. to Chris R. while searching twitter..
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on July 14, 2013, 10:49:27 am
I was apparently DJing in the douchiest club in Chicago last night... at first I though it was spam, but no bot could create such douchbag profiles.

https://twitter.com/_jwalks/status/356290970951761920

Those profiles are so money...  ::)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on July 14, 2013, 11:00:24 am
My peeve is with labels that physically release something only on vinyl (because sound, man) and digitally only in MP3 or iTunes (because BULLSHIT, man).

Compact Discs are dead. 

I guess I wasn't clear. Some labels offer downloads of their vinyl releases only in MP3 or iTunes, both of which are lossy formats that are inferior to CD. If they really cared about sound and not just looking cool, they would offer downloads in lossless formats, e.g. WAV, FLAC, ALAC, AIFF, BWF. Even better, they would offer downloads in higher digital resolutions than CD.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomicfront on July 14, 2013, 07:19:26 pm
My peeve is with labels that physically release something only on vinyl (because sound, man) and digitally only in MP3 or iTunes (because BULLSHIT, man).

Compact Discs are dead. 

I guess I wasn't clear. Some labels offer downloads of their vinyl releases only in MP3 or iTunes, both of which are lossy formats that are inferior to CD. If they really cared about sound and not just looking cool, they would offer downloads in lossless formats, e.g. WAV, FLAC, ALAC, AIFF, BWF. Even better, they would offer downloads in higher digital resolutions than CD.

Ok that makes sense.  I guess the problem is that most people today listen to music on a shitty phone with shitty ear buds and they don't really care about sound quality. 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on July 15, 2013, 02:35:20 am
Nigel Godrich, Four Tet and Thom Yorke are not streaming service fans. http://blbrd.co/1bBf0tU Wondering if lesser known, younger bands will follow suit.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on July 18, 2013, 07:44:52 am
A counterpoint on the streaming services issue

From Kudos Distribution, a leading distributor of UK indie labels.  Streaming is the "2nd largest income source for our labels."

http://www.kudosdistribution.co.uk/streaming-services-again-2/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on July 18, 2013, 08:41:38 am
I saw you tweet that a bit ago.
 There was also this (http://storify.com/ahmadmzaghal/damon-krukowski-on-the-godrich-yorke-spotify-tweet) from Damon Krukowski of Damon and Naomi/Galaxie 500. In summation, he thinks that all streams should be completely free while owning the music itself would still come at a price. Essentially the Bandcamp model.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on July 18, 2013, 09:28:12 am
There is no one size fits all approach, as even some of Kudos's labels as use bandcamp in addition to more traditional distribution.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on July 18, 2013, 05:21:20 pm
Yeah agreed.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 18, 2013, 06:35:40 pm
i think musicians should go back to selling their music out of the back of vehicles.  you know, like music making ice cream mans.  like musical digestive food vendor trucks .  it could be the new rage.  the new hipster.  the new new.  roaming vans selling hard to find, exclusive songs, sometimes with the very fucking band on the truck recording the damn song right there and then spitting it out the side like a japanese ticket restaurant.

yeah.  take that.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on July 18, 2013, 07:00:46 pm
great idea, but the word exclusives just turns into people gouging others on ebay...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on July 19, 2013, 10:27:19 pm
Oh hey. There's a link to my Storify thing in The New Yorker. That internet is a weird place sometimes. http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/sashafrerejones/2013/07/spotify-boycott-new-artists-music-business-model.html
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: bearman🐻 on July 21, 2013, 12:47:01 pm
Wow. Simply wow.

http://m.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/magazine/when-jimi-hendrix-came-to-washington-and-blew-its-mind/2013/07/18/ca80eb58-dd18-11e2-85de-c03ca84cb4ef_story_1.html
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: slappy on July 22, 2013, 12:19:35 pm
Wow. Simply wow.

http://m.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/magazine/when-jimi-hendrix-came-to-washington-and-blew-its-mind/2013/07/18/ca80eb58-dd18-11e2-85de-c03ca84cb4ef_story_1.html

Thanks for posting! I limit my Post visits since they started the paywall.

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: slappy on July 22, 2013, 12:28:45 pm
http://posingdjs.tumblr.com/ (http://posingdjs.tumblr.com/)

Headphones are for pussies!!!

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/d4381de1b7af7a35d98c469429bae689/tumblr_mojwgmBpIo1sw9nrqo1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on July 22, 2013, 12:32:34 pm
awesome. This one was one of my favorites, though i do not understand what exactly is going on. 
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/3e27c777f689ddd6573eb42836728337/tumblr_mojw8r32SU1sw9nrqo1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: xneverwherex on July 23, 2013, 01:46:51 pm
this was one of the most awesome shows ive ever seen. the crowd was comprised of mostly call fans that were definitely much older. Mid-30s I was one of the youngest people at the show. A lot of the fans were giving Robert a hard time - he messed up a few songs - forgot lyrics here and there - couldnt reach all the notes - etc. Regardless, everyone loved it. Robert was clearly embarrassed a few times, but he pulled through. He was indeed a good sport. They had spent ages trying to put this together and for Robert to learn all of the songs. I forgot which guy it was, but he was sporting a BRMC shirt. The band was charming, but at the end of the day - it was clear that everyone missed Michael. It was one of the most beautiful tributes Ive ever seen. They played for a good 2 hours and it was pure awesomeness!

Obviously this isn't the first time an offspring has taken over for a parent in a band but this would be good show to see...  I had no idea about the BRMC/The Call connection until after Micheal Been had passed away, he served as the bands soundman for several years.

*****

It gives us great pleasure to announce to you all that the seminal rock group 'The Call' will be reuniting with B.R.M.C.'.s Robert Been for two select shows!!!

Disbanded in 1990 The Call's original members Scott Musick, Tom Ferrier, and Jim Goodwin will be taking the stage with Robert Been, taking over the role of bass and vocals in honor of his father, the late Michael Been - twenty years since their last live show!

But now for the really exciting news - Tickets go on sale on Friday March 1st from www.the-call-band.com

April 18th: San Francisco, CA / Slim's

April 19th: Los Angeles, CA / The Troubadour
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on July 23, 2013, 03:21:36 pm
I saw The Call at the Bayou in the late 80s. Got their autographs on a CD afterwards. Rhett would not approve.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on July 29, 2013, 06:40:19 pm
Thanks for the post on the Call.  Despite the hiccups sounds like a cool event
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on July 29, 2013, 06:42:57 pm
It's a sign of the times when a leading craptasticEDM producer, comes with equally craptastic "americana"
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on July 29, 2013, 07:20:58 pm
pray for my soul... i just found out that evil spotify has the complete singles collection, while I don't want the entire collection it would be nice to listen to them and cherry pick some of the obscure releases...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: slappy on August 01, 2013, 09:53:14 am
If you're more visually inclined to absorb information, here's a infographic on how Spotify, Last.FM, Rhapsody, etc. reduce the ability for a musician to make a living wage.

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2011/11/how-musicians-really-make-money-in-one-long-graph/249267/ (http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2011/11/how-musicians-really-make-money-in-one-long-graph/249267/)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on August 01, 2013, 10:19:04 am
I saw that yesterday.  I wonder where Bandcamp would fit on that.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on August 01, 2013, 10:21:54 am
Is it ok to listen to archival music on Spotify? ;)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on August 02, 2013, 07:36:10 am
So is Wavves stuck forever playing venues the size of the Black Cat?  Or is his career on that downward slope to Empire.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on August 02, 2013, 09:19:52 am
Go for the King Tough, leave before the Wavves.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on August 08, 2013, 02:18:28 pm
I can already imagine the responses to this article and its main point, knowing people around here...
http://trustmeimascientist.com/2013/08/08/why-vinyl-is-not-going-to-save-the-music-industry/
(parts I am referring to below)
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But ? Is the ?low sound quality of digital a turnoff??

There are two possible answers to this: A ) ?Yes, if by ?turnoff?, you mean ?people are listening to more music than ever before.? (They?re just not paying for it)? or B ) ?Yes, but only because our perception is dead wrong.?

Here?s the reality: Modern digital doesn?t have low sound quality. By any objective standard, it?s actually far better in terms of raw sound quality than vinyl is!

We?re not just talking about CDs here. This statement includes any good resolution downloads or streaming files. The problem is that music marketers have effectively been lying to listeners by telling them that modern digital doesn?t sound good. And we?ve got to stop. Now.

Perception affects enjoyment more than anything else. That?s where the failure is. Right now, by any objective standard, we have the best listening formats and equipment ever made, and at prices that are mind-bogglingly low.

In reality, modern digital actually sounds f*ing great. A 320kbps stream from Spotify, eMusic or MOG sounds indistinguishable from a CD when heard by the ear. This has been confirmed in countless blind tests. Meanwhile, within the spectrum of human hearing, a CD is unquestionably closer to the original master than vinyl is. We can prove that with measurements and we can prove it with listening tests. There is no doubt. Zero.

In terms of raw sound quality, what?s available today is provably higher-fidelity than vinyl, cassette, 8-track, reel-to-reel, wax cylinder, AM/FM radio, and just about any other consumer format ever invented. But we?re failing to tell that story.

At this point, we don?t need to convince the engineers to design better digital. They?ve already done their jobs. The technology is there. Now we?ve gotta do our jobs and convince people to start paying for it again!

Unfortunately, my friend went on to write:

?I?m embarrassed to admit that it has been years since I heard vinyl. That all changed 2 nights ago when I was at a friends house. I was sitting there and noticed the warmth, the sonic space, the timbre of the instruments. It was?sumptuous, sensual, dare I say, intoxicating.?

I believe my friend. Wouldn?t doubt him for a second. But here?s the thing: What really happened was that he sat down and listened to an amazing-sounding recording on a friends? stereo? Which was far better than his own. Of course you?re going to notice new things!

Yes: Great speakers sounds amazing. Hanging out with friends, listening to albums and feeding off of each others? enthusiasm is awesome. No question. These things can make a huge difference in perceived audio quality. Vinyl on the other hand? Not so much.

Don?t get me wrong ? Vinyl can be great. People actually can hear a difference under blind listening conditions. There can even be something so subtly familiar, ?so soft around the edges? about the medium. It?s just that with good vinyl, those differences are not that dramatic at all. And, when we prefer it, it?s because we like the measurably less pristine sound of the format.

It may be counter-intuitive to some vinyl promoters, but pretending that digital can?t sound as good or better than vinyl is a major part of the problem facing musicians today. Not only is it untrue, but it reinforces the backwards notion that today?s recordings just aren?t worth paying for. When we lie to kids and tell them digital is lousy, we?re effectively saying ?that sucks, you don?t have to pay for that garbage.? While in fact, ?that garbage? is among the best we?ve ever had.

The problem of musicians? income in the 21st century is not going to be solved by singing the praises of vinyl. It is going to be solved by developing great streaming services and making sure they pay fair rates. It?s going to be solved by reasonable and effective crackdowns on piracy. And it?s going to be solved by information campaigns that tell people the truth, inspiring them to put value back into the music that is already right there at their fingertips.

That is all that can save musicians. There is no way that vinyl can do it alone.

So spread the truth: If you want sound quality, we?ve got better sound quality today than ever before. If you want convenience and access, that?s here too. If you want low prices, my God are they low. Perhaps too low. If you want physicality and ritual, you can get that too. Buy your CDs, buy your vinyl. As long as you?re buying, those things are not going to go away.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 08, 2013, 02:56:04 pm
Nice article.  I do like a lot of things about vinyl, but I have always thought the 'outstanding sound difference' argument to be a little weak and hipsteresque
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomicfront on August 08, 2013, 03:00:15 pm
Nice article.  I do like a lot of things about vinyl, but I have always thought the 'outstanding sound difference' argument to be a little weak and hipsteresque

Vinyl sounds better to me.  And why is there an argument anyway?  If I prefer vinyl and I buy it everyone should be happy.  Musicians get money.  Jobs in US and Canada were the vinyl is pressed and the album covers are printed.  Local record stores get cash from me.   
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on August 08, 2013, 03:04:49 pm
as long as there are things to argue about, there will be arguments.   

I'd much rather listen to a pristine digital file. 

Would you prefer a VHS tape to a DVD?  A cassette tape to a CD? 

People like to inject subjective experiences into the objective vinyl vs digital debate (ie memories of youth and the "ritual" of listening to vinyl). 

if you prefer it, good.  But it doesnt mean it is better. 

Did you read that article?

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In terms of raw sound quality, what?s available today is provably higher-fidelity than vinyl, cassette, 8-track, reel-to-reel, wax cylinder, AM/FM radio, and just about any other consumer format ever invented. But we?re failing to tell that story.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomicfront on August 08, 2013, 03:19:34 pm
as long as there are things to argue about, there will be arguments.   

I'd much rather listen to a pristine digital file. 

Would you prefer a VHS tape to a DVD?  A cassette tape to a CD? 

People like to inject subjective experiences into the objective vinyl vs digital debate (ie memories of youth and the "ritual" of listening to vinyl). 

if you prefer it, good.  But it doesnt mean it is better. 

Did you read that article?

Quote
In terms of raw sound quality, what?s available today is provably higher-fidelity than vinyl, cassette, 8-track, reel-to-reel, wax cylinder, AM/FM radio, and just about any other consumer format ever invented. But we?re failing to tell that story.

This is an opinion.  I have mine he has his.  What difference does it make who is right? If I buy vinyl that is better for the industry than if I just downloaded MP3's for free.  There is no way I would ever buy a CD.  I would either download a file for free or buy the Album. 

And VHS quality is awful.  Beta was actually far superior.  VHS was not analog.  Movies were always samples of the action.  26 frames per second or whatever.  Blue Ray is superior quality.  If CD's sounded better to me I would use them. They don't to my ears. 

I am not going to come out with an argument that you should buy Vinyl.  Buy whatever you think is better.  But I don't see what logical reason there is to convince someone that digitial is better.   
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on August 08, 2013, 03:20:37 pm
because the quality can be measured, that was the whole point of the article!
 ;D

I dont just download mp3s for free, i imagine you are making a general statement and hopefully not directing it at me!

I spend LOTS of money on the music industry per year.  Digital, Vinyl, tapes, CDs, concerts, posters, and T Shirts.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on August 08, 2013, 03:44:00 pm
So what's the deal with the 96k digital format, haven't had a chance to look into it.  It's something Toad The Wet Sprocket keep touting with their Kickstarter.  It's not a bandcamp providedformat.  And never seen it on offer before.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on August 08, 2013, 03:47:12 pm
As in?
http://www.tcelectronic.com/finalizer-96k/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 08, 2013, 03:49:23 pm
So what's the deal with the 96k digital format, haven't had a chance to look into it.  It's something Toad The Wet Sprocket keep touting with their Kickstarter.  It's not a bandcamp providedformat.  And never seen it on offer before.
http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/blog/2012/05/17/new-format-news-dolby-truehd-advanced-96k-upsampling (http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/blog/2012/05/17/new-format-news-dolby-truehd-advanced-96k-upsampling)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on August 08, 2013, 03:59:49 pm
So what's the deal with the 96k digital format, haven't had a chance to look into it.  It's something Toad The Wet Sprocket keep touting with their Kickstarter.  It's not a bandcamp providedformat.  And never seen it on offer before.

Myeah it actually<a href="https://www.hdtracks.com/index.php?file=9624albums&bitrate=e192> goes up to 192 khz[/url] (no theoretical limit I suppose), but you tend to have to have special hardware for that to be meaningful, and I'm not sure I want Rod Stewart sounding that close to my ears.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on August 08, 2013, 04:11:53 pm
Well I'm intrigued now, I'm guessing those files are huge and it may take some doing to get them to play...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on August 08, 2013, 05:00:32 pm
There has always been bullshit surrounding sound reproduction, and nowadays most of it is coming from the vinylistas. This recent op-ed (http://www.digitalmusicnews.com/permalink/2013/20130804artist#fr9Lbhf1_FmQMFpEwA5WkQ) at Digital Music News is a primo example. Check out this prose:

In closing, I just want to touch upon one more thing for artists considering investing in vinyl. There is another benefit, above and beyond the monetary, and that is the emotional factor.  From art school hipsters to old school misters, people are drawn to vinyl; drawn to it as something more than just an audio format. And yes, part of that is just image. Part of that is just people wanting to be "cool."  Part of that is the aura of elite intellectualism surrounding the appreciation of an antiquated commodity.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomicfront on August 08, 2013, 05:00:37 pm
because the quality can be measured, that was the whole point of the article!
 ;D

I dont just download mp3s for free, i imagine you are making a general statement and hopefully not directing it at me!

I spend LOTS of money on the music industry per year.  Digital, Vinyl, tapes, CDs, concerts, posters, and T Shirts.

No I was directing it to myself.  
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Ardamus on August 09, 2013, 09:44:14 am
This whole argument about what form of media is better is weak though. It all goes in circles anyway. Two forms of media people will not go back to are the following: for anything visual, laser discs, and for anything based on audio, 8-tracks. LOL. Everything else goes in cycles. People hate CDs but yet love tapes and vinyl all of a sudden again. Digital media is great until you don't back it up and lose it if your computer ever goes down. I really don't know to many people even into Blu-rays like that or even like DVDs too much anymore since its all about what you can stream/download online mostly. It all comes down to what you're really comfortable with having in your collection in whichever form you prefer.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: evilizac on August 09, 2013, 10:16:58 am
What about how we consume music? I find it nearly impossible to go to an electronics store and find something reasonably priced that doesn't sound cheap. These are the places that most consumers get their music listening equipment. Great music in a good digital format will sound mediocre, at best, on inadequate stereo equipment. One of the good things about vinyl is that the distortion that creates all that "warmth" is very forgiving to less than stellar equipment.
Plus there is the fact that as music has become more ubiquitous we care less about quality over quantity. If I can hear a song I like playing faintly over the speaker system at the grocery store (hypothetical) and be satiated enough, why do I need a dedicated piece of equipment taking up space in my house that could be filled with other stuff. Not to mention that as we get older we no longer have the time to sit sit back and actually enjoy music. We sit in our cars, on mass transit and subject ourselves to inferior sound quality. . . Plus how are beats headphones being sold off like they are some entry level gift to sound quality. . ? For their price especially they are terrible (my brief opinion).   
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomicfront on August 09, 2013, 11:13:23 am
This whole argument about what form of media is better is weak though. It all goes in circles anyway. Two forms of media people will not go back to are the following: for anything visual, laser discs, and for anything based on audio, 8-tracks. LOL. Everything else goes in cycles. People hate CDs but yet love tapes and vinyl all of a sudden again. Digital media is great until you don't back it up and lose it if your computer ever goes down. I really don't know to many people even into Blu-rays like that or even like DVDs too much anymore since its all about what you can stream/download online mostly. It all comes down to what you're really comfortable with having in your collection in whichever form you prefer.

I like Blue-Rays.  I was just stating how I wish Blockbuster still existed.  You could easily browse movies and find stuff that you would never watch.  I think people are just so lazy these days.  Too lazy to get off their azz and go to the store an pick up a video or album.  To lazy to make themselves a healthy meal. 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on August 09, 2013, 11:24:53 am
Wait what?  Is this the foodicological banter thread?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomicfront on August 09, 2013, 11:27:06 am
Wait what?  Is this the foodicological banter thread?

We should have one of them.  I love good food.  And I don't mean bacon.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on August 09, 2013, 12:47:54 pm
Wait what?  Is this the foodicological banter thread?

We should have one of them.  I love good food.  And I don't mean bacon.

(http://www.gastronomica.org/wp-content/uploads/cover_0704_full.gif)

Gastronomy is the study of food and culture, with a particular focus on gourmet cuisine. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gastronomy)

I'm no foodie so someone else will need to start a Gastronomical Banter thread.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on August 21, 2013, 09:50:46 am
Kate Bush is the godmother of 10s music.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 21, 2013, 05:57:33 pm
Any one listened to the new King Kruel album
http://kingkrule.co.uk/beneaththemoon/ (http://kingkrule.co.uk/beneaththemoon/)


He's streaming it from his site (as is NPR)

I really kan't stop listening to it

The video for Out getting ribs is just great (actually made 2 years ago)
http://kingkrule.co.uk/videos/ (http://kingkrule.co.uk/videos/)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on August 27, 2013, 02:51:52 pm
Roddy Frame is doing High Land Hard Rain in the UK... Which makes me a sad panda
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on August 27, 2013, 04:18:12 pm
So Clap your Hands Say yeah is the first "big" band using this new service, Rabbl. 
https://www.rabbl.com/events/1000557

http://sweetteapumpkinpie.com/2013/08/27/interview-clap-your-hands-say-yeah-discusses-rabbl/

https://www.rabbl.com/

Not too sure how different it is than just ticket sales to gauge audience interest in a band... Could be a cool tool for smaller to medium sized venues and Bands.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on August 27, 2013, 04:33:37 pm
Roddy Frame is doing High Land Hard Rain in the UK... Which makes me a sad panda

you're such an oldies goldies kinda panda...  ;D








as am i
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on August 28, 2013, 06:18:11 am
Rock Music is truly dead...  QOSTA take a swipe at Miley by promising no twerking at their Barclay center show.  and Kim of Matt and Kim poses topless on their remix album cover, teenage boys everywhere will be "listening" to this album. 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on August 28, 2013, 08:16:48 am
soundtrack from ziggy stardust is underrated


maybe not the best mix but still...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on August 28, 2013, 08:42:31 am
Rock Music is truly dead...  QOSTA take a swipe at Miley by promising no twerking at their Barclay center show.  and Kim of Matt and Kim poses topless on their remix album cover, teenage boys everywhere will be "listening" to this album. 

Was Matt and Kim ever considered "rock" music? What a bunch of wusses.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: K8teebug on August 28, 2013, 09:40:01 am
Rock Music is truly dead...  QOSTA take a swipe at Miley by promising no twerking at their Barclay center show.  and Kim of Matt and Kim poses topless on their remix album cover, teenage boys everywhere will be "listening" to this album. 

Was Matt and Kim ever considered "rock" music? What a bunch of wusses.

Matt and Kim is one of the most annoying acts I've ever seen.  Saw them at freefest because I was sitting in the front waiting for Pavement and LCD, and they were just heinous.  Do.not.get.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on August 29, 2013, 10:38:52 am
Rock Music is truly dead...  QOSTA take a swipe at Miley by promising no twerking at their Barclay center show.  and Kim of Matt and Kim poses topless on their remix album cover, teenage boys everywhere will be "listening" to this album. 

Was Matt and Kim ever considered "rock" music? What a bunch of wusses.

Matt and Kim is one of the most annoying acts I've ever seen.  Saw them at freefest because I was sitting in the front waiting for Pavement and LCD, and they were just heinous.  Do.not.get.

I bet atomic loves Matt and Kim.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on August 29, 2013, 01:31:31 pm
Tonight was my favorite Franz Ferdinand record by far.. of course it stiffed.. I'm glad they survived to make another one.. the new one's album cover is so boring though.. I think this is their last one.. groovin to it today... can't say yet how it stacks up.. its good of course... but how good?

would love to end up at the FF show at Strathmore but have balked due to the ticket price...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on August 29, 2013, 01:41:29 pm
Yeah the FF is fast growing on me.. digging the new Sonics in their sound.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on August 29, 2013, 03:10:39 pm
While this onion worthy.. I can't find that thread at the moment

Old people offened by diarrhea planet

http://m.nashvillescene.com/nashville/blogs/Post?basename=ticked-off-belle-meade-news-reader-wants-to-get-off-of-diarrhea-planet&day=29&id=nashvillecream&month=08&year=2013
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomic on August 29, 2013, 03:17:22 pm
Rock Music is truly dead...  QOSTA take a swipe at Miley by promising no twerking at their Barclay center show.  and Kim of Matt and Kim poses topless on their remix album cover, teenage boys everywhere will be "listening" to this album. 

Was Matt and Kim ever considered "rock" music? What a bunch of wusses.

Matt and Kim is one of the most annoying acts I've ever seen.  Saw them at freefest because I was sitting in the front waiting for Pavement and LCD, and they were just heinous.  Do.not.get.

I bet atomic loves Matt and Kim.

Of course, I do.  What's not to love.  High energy and great songs.   Pavement on the other hand were incredibly boring.  I left during their set. 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on August 29, 2013, 03:24:10 pm
Rock Music is truly dead...  QOSTA take a swipe at Miley by promising no twerking at their Barclay center show.  and Kim of Matt and Kim poses topless on their remix album cover, teenage boys everywhere will be "listening" to this album. 

Was Matt and Kim ever considered "rock" music? What a bunch of wusses.

Matt and Kim is one of the most annoying acts I've ever seen.  Saw them at freefest because I was sitting in the front waiting for Pavement and LCD, and they were just heinous.  Do.not.get.

I bet atomic loves Matt and Kim.

Of course, I do.  What's not to love.  High energy and great songs.   Pavement on the other hand were incredibly boring.  I left during their set. 

HAHAHAH.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomic on August 29, 2013, 03:44:25 pm
Rock Music is truly dead...  QOSTA take a swipe at Miley by promising no twerking at their Barclay center show.  and Kim of Matt and Kim poses topless on their remix album cover, teenage boys everywhere will be "listening" to this album. 

Was Matt and Kim ever considered "rock" music? What a bunch of wusses.

Matt and Kim is one of the most annoying acts I've ever seen.  Saw them at freefest because I was sitting in the front waiting for Pavement and LCD, and they were just heinous.  Do.not.get.

I bet atomic loves Matt and Kim.

Of course, I do.  What's not to love.  High energy and great songs.   Pavement on the other hand were incredibly boring.  I left during their set. 

What is funny about that.  Everyone I was with felt the same way.  They were all in their 20's.  Maybe it is an age thing.

HAHAHAH.


What is funny about that.  Everyone I was with felt the same way.  They were all in their 20's.  Maybe it is an age thing.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on August 29, 2013, 06:09:52 pm
The new Cactus Channel is basically one of the best hard hitting funk/soul records I've heard of late... it's streaming for the next couple of days here

http://themusic.com.au/listen/all/2013/08/26/exclusive-the-cactus-channel-wooden-boy
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on September 01, 2013, 01:49:26 pm
http://blbrd.co/1dXV45L

So much awesome here!
Great headline.
Interesting and promising idea.
Nice sneaky Diarrhea Planet reference.
Great to see Emily killing it at Billboard.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 04, 2013, 07:44:21 am
Someone has solved current problem of lack of Aphex Twin appearances, this should help bearman, sweetcell, etc move on to liking Miley Cyrus.  I expect some Hey Seth's out of you all today ;)


5 Ways Miley Cyrus is inadvertently mimicking Aphex Twin

http://theinternetispoison.blogspot.com/2013/09/miley-cyrus-windowlicker.html
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 04, 2013, 07:46:32 am
Woman gets conned trying to buy a festival ticket, then writes a song about the incident and names names. Video goes viral and get 10k+ worth of views. Ends up getting invited to play that festival. Lovely voice....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qVpVd__UuU
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 08, 2013, 10:11:13 pm
Thought this was an interesting post by Frank Turner on his own forum (forum.frank-turner.com)

Re: US Tour 2013

    ezeblazin wrote:I was at the Silver Spring show. Frank was great as always.. I'm just highly disappointed it was a 21+ show, there was no reason for that other than the stupid bud light sponsorship. Also upset that they were only allowed to sell bud light, bud light lime, bud light platinum and lime a ritas at the venue. They have a ton of other beers that are actually good and weren't able to sell them because of the sponsorship. I don't know why Frank would agree to that, although maybe he didn't know... I guess that's just what comes with being on a major label.

    Also, I'm wondering if the new song he had "never played before" is the same new song he played the last few nights... anyone know? I don't remember any of the lyrics other than the word Aphrodite.

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With regard to the Bud Light thing.. it's not something I'd usually do (because of the age limit thing, can't say I care that much about the beer branding, it doesn't affect what I do on stage). That said, in this instance they paid us a big fee for the show. Just before everyone calls me a sell out for that, the point is, it meant this tour was able to break even financially, and therefore to happen at all (and indeed to bring Ben Marwood out as well). So it wasn't perhaps the easiest decision, but I think the right one. Touring in the USA is still pretty fraught, financially, for me. Next time we're through it'll be all ages again.
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Shows? All of em. (this is his sig as most fans put the number of shows they have been to)

"He's like an Uncle, I like him but I don't want to listen to him all day."
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Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 08, 2013, 10:17:43 pm

Re: US Tour 2013
    ezeblazin wrote:I was at the Silver Spring show.
With regard to the Bud Light thing... they paid us a big fee for the show.


I'm pretty certain this is the #1 reason he didn't play the 930 this tour.
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Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 09, 2013, 07:48:10 am
Probably too early for 2014 threads, so...

Neil Finn said on twitter he has a album/tour scheduled for 2014
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Post by: hutch on September 09, 2013, 08:15:13 am
wow pitchfork gives the new pixies ep a 1.0....


what a  terrible review.. more about the reviewer than the music...
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Post by: killsaly on September 09, 2013, 11:15:04 am
I havent heard it, but if the Bagboy song was any indication, i would assume it was horrible.  Some (like Swans) can make amazing music for years and decades and forever.  Not everyone is so inclined.  I will need to read the review later to see what you mean...
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Post by: Yada on September 09, 2013, 11:19:50 am
people read reviews?

People take said reviews of snarky musical outlets seriously?
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Post by: bearman🐻 on September 09, 2013, 11:22:22 am
wow pitchfork gives the new pixies ep a 1.0....


what a  terrible review.. more about the reviewer than the music...

Funny...as a longtime (and I mean really longtime) Pixies fan (I saw them twice before they broke up), I actually think the EP is really good and I'm enjoying it a lot. I am sort of sick of reviewers. I know they need to make a living too, but they probably need to go find a real job. And I say that as someone who used to write them. At a certain point, they don't really mean a damn thing. Sometimes they're run to read (the most fun I've ever had was trashing Bjork's "Drawing Restraint"), but that one was just dumb.
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Post by: i am gay and i like cats on September 09, 2013, 12:25:35 pm
everyone knows the truth about people who write reviews.  everyone knows the truth about people who write journalism.
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Post by: hutch on September 09, 2013, 12:30:11 pm
people read reviews?

People take said reviews of snarky musical outlets seriously?

well yah sometimes i read them for fun!..usually if something gets such an awful review which hardly talks about the music itself and instead tells us personal stories about the reviewer then i think "hey, must be good!"..in other words the review peaks my interest..




i am reminded of rolling stone's greil marcus and his review of self protrait which said something like "what is this shit?"... rolling stone just reviewed the new dylan bootleg series consisting of outtakes ..arguably outtakes of outtakes... from self portrait and calls it a masterpiece

self portrait is a great record reviewers be damned... and "dylan" (the real outtakes from self portrait) is even better..

another classic case of reviewers inserting their agenda into a review was the pitchfork people on liz phaiir's eponymous one which isn't that bad  a record...

the idea that black francis, joey and dave could make an ep deserving 1 out of 10 , to me, is laughable...

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Post by: azaghal1981 on September 10, 2013, 07:36:18 am
I generally like Matthew Yglesias but whenever he writes anything about music, he sounds clueless. Like here. (http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2013/09/09/cassette_tape_trend_perfect_price_discrimination_in_band_affection.html)

Apparently only young people go to shows and tapes are a "hilarious gag" now.
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Post by: Yada on September 10, 2013, 08:49:16 am
I generally like Matthew Yglesias but whenever he writes anything about music, he sounds clueless. Like here. (http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2013/09/09/cassette_tape_trend_perfect_price_discrimination_in_band_affection.html)

Apparently only young people go to shows and tapes are a "hilarious gag" now.


My christ... that dude is such a sanctimonious nozzle. He used to run in the same circle as an ex of mine nearly a decade ago and seems to get prickier by the years.
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Post by: stevewizzle on September 10, 2013, 09:10:52 am
my favorite pitchfork review to read is the "oh shit these guys blew up and we didn't get any coverage on them?" 5.0
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Post by: azaghal1981 on September 10, 2013, 09:16:56 am
There are a few Pitchfork contributors who I think are pretty reliably good/always worth reading whether or not you agree with them and know how to write a well-crafted review. Ned Raggett, Marc Masters, Lindsay Zoladz, Laura Snapes and Liz/Jenn Pelly come to mind. This Body/Head review published today, for example. (http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/18471-bodyhead-coming-apart/) The scoring system is bullshit, though. It is not the individual reviewer who scores an album; scores are supposedly an average made up of the ratings given by a bunch of contributors. The scoring system should be done away with altogether and let the reviews speak for themselves.
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Post by: hutch on September 10, 2013, 10:55:15 am
There are a few Pitchfork contributors who I think are pretty reliably good/always worth reading whether or not you agree with them and know how to write a well-crafted review. Ned Raggett, Marc Masters, Lindsay Zoladz, Laura Snapes and Liz/Jenn Pelly come to mind. This Body/Head review published today, for example. (http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/18471-bodyhead-coming-apart/) The scoring system is bullshit, though. It is not the individual reviewer who scores an album; scores are supposedly an average made up of the ratings given by a bunch of contributors. The scoring system should be done away with altogether and let the reviews speak for themselves.


I really think they base the score not one whit on the music..its just based on what is cool and hip and what isn't..i wouldn't be surprised if they tell the reviewer what the score is ahead of time.... is a band on the upslope? have they become too big? if so, they trash the band no matter what.... its a joke...so many bands on pitchfork they lovethem the first album or two and then they backlash them no matter how good what they put out is....
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Post by: killsaly on September 10, 2013, 11:03:58 am
Pitchfork just sucks.
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Post by: K8teebug on September 11, 2013, 09:04:14 am
I cannot read any reviews on pitchfork.

ever.

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Post by: azaghal1981 on September 11, 2013, 09:15:14 am
What's wrong with the one I linked?
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Post by: K8teebug on September 11, 2013, 01:47:58 pm
Too long winded.

I think that's always been my problem with pitchfork reviews.

But, I've never tried to review anything other than "good" "not good" "terrible", so what do I know?
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Post by: atomic on September 11, 2013, 02:01:29 pm
Too long winded.

I think that's always been my problem with pitchfork reviews.

But, I've never tried to review anything other than "good" "not good" "terrible", so what do I know?

Problem with any music review is that anything more than a couple of sentences is pretty useless.  To know whether you like music you have to listen to it.  I never read music reviews.  Interviews can be interesting though.
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Post by: i am gay and i like cats on September 11, 2013, 02:44:12 pm
which one . . . is better?
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Post by: sweetcell on September 11, 2013, 03:00:57 pm
the problem with most PF reviews, at least as i remember them (haven't read any in a long while), is that 75% of the review has nothing (or at least very very little) to do with the album being reviewed.  the authors tend to talk in large arcs, describing what music means to them, about how it invokes childhood memories, then they might tangentially talk about the musical genre of the album in broad strokes before digressing into a random thought about that one show they saw years ago... oh yeah and the album is meh.  now about those wistful childhood memories...
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Post by: grateful on September 11, 2013, 08:45:37 pm
Too long winded.

I think that's always been my problem with pitchfork reviews.

But, I've never tried to review anything other than "good" "not good" "terrible", so what do I know?

What are you waiting for, "nuanced"?
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Post by: slappy on September 12, 2013, 10:55:05 am
Mercury Prize nominees out.
It's a tough year to pick a hands down winner.
Disclosure would probably be my pick today.

Arctic Monkeys: AM
David Bowie: The Next Day
Disclosure: Settle
Foals: Holy Fire
Jake Bugg: Jake Bugg
James Blake: Overgrown
Jon Hopkins: Immunity
Laura Marling: Once I Was an Eagle
Laura Mvula: Sing to the Moon
Rudimental: Home
Savages: Silence Yourself
Villagers: Awayland
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Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 12, 2013, 11:13:23 am
I like the Villagers album
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Post by: brennser on September 12, 2013, 11:47:34 am
I like the Villagers album
me too
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Post by: BrettnotBritt on September 12, 2013, 12:29:24 pm
Pitchfork just sucks.

What's hilarious/sad is that they rewrite their own history by scrubbing older reviews from their archvies. It's like they're embarrassed they reviewed a Less Than Jake or Sir Mix-A-Lot album and have to maintain this elite indie presence.

Because yes, this happened: http://web.archive.org/web/20000816190320/www.pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/s/sir-mix-a-lot/return-of-the-bumpasaurus.shtml
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Post by: sweetcell on September 12, 2013, 12:45:16 pm
Pitchfork just sucks.

What's hilarious/sad is that they rewrite their own history by scrubbing older reviews from their archvies. It's like they're embarrassed they reviewed a Less Than Jake or Sir Mix-A-Lot album and have to maintain this elite indie presence.

Because yes, this happened: http://web.archive.org/web/20000816190320/www.pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/s/sir-mix-a-lot/return-of-the-bumpasaurus.shtml

wow.  well that's embarrassing (that they scrub their archives, not that they liked mixalot's disappointing 1996 album)
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Post by: azaghal1981 on September 12, 2013, 02:44:20 pm
Pitchfork just sucks.

What's hilarious/sad is that they rewrite their own history by scrubbing older reviews from their archvies. It's like they're embarrassed they reviewed a Less Than Jake or Sir Mix-A-Lot album and have to maintain this elite indie presence.

Because yes, this happened: http://web.archive.org/web/20000816190320/www.pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/s/sir-mix-a-lot/return-of-the-bumpasaurus.shtml
That is pretty funny and sad.
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Post by: hutch on September 13, 2013, 09:32:14 am
can't believe there are still lawsuits over samples on pauls boutique

http://movies.yahoo.com/news/beastie-boys-cant-escape-pauls-boutique-sampling-lawsuit-050000640.html
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Post by: killsaly on September 13, 2013, 10:28:30 am
Mercury Prize nominees out.
It's a tough year to pick a hands down winner.
Disclosure would probably be my pick today.

Arctic Monkeys: AM
David Bowie: The Next Day
Disclosure: Settle
Foals: Holy Fire
Jake Bugg: Jake Bugg
James Blake: Overgrown
Jon Hopkins: Immunity
Laura Marling: Once I Was an Eagle
Laura Mvula: Sing to the Moon
Rudimental: Home
Savages: Silence Yourself
Villagers: Awayland
I have not heard a single album on that list...

And in other Mercury Prize News:
http://www.theguardian.com/music/2013/sep/13/my-bloody-valentine-slams-mercury-prize
Quote
"Isn't Mercury a phone company or something, anyway? What's that got to do with music?" Shields said in an exclusive interview. "We're banned by them, and do you know why? Because we're not on Amazon or iTunes. That's one of the qualifying criteria. You have to have major distribution or be on iTunes or Amazon."

Shields may be correct. According to the terms and conditions on the Mercury website, qualifying albums will have "a digital and physical distribution deal in place in the UK". My Bloody Valentine, who self-released their album, only sold the digital version of mbv through their own website. This may not be considered a "digital distribution deal".

"We released our record, mbv, independently," Shields said. My Bloody Valentine didn't even rely on an indie label such as Domino or Alcopop! Records. "It's interesting to learn that to be as independent as we are is ? virtually illegal," he said. "It's not a real record. Our album's not a real album because it's independent. The corporate-ness has got to such a point where we've essentially been told that we don't exist. So, technically, that album doesn't exist. OK? It's not allowed to exist according to the Mercury prize."
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Post by: azaghal1981 on September 13, 2013, 10:41:30 am
He is right in that completely independently released albums should be considered but his going on to essentially call the Mercury Prize a curse kind of negates his argument, no? If you don't want it, why complain about not being nominated for it?
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Post by: bearman🐻 on September 17, 2013, 10:35:58 am
For DFA1979...nice interview with Josh and Dean from QOTSA here:

https://soundcloud.com/thestromboshow/stromboshow-sept15-2013
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Post by: azaghal1981 on September 17, 2013, 11:41:13 am
This speaker list for the Future of Music Coalition conference looks great. http://t.co/lJZtg44AFS
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Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 17, 2013, 11:49:08 am
This speaker list for the Future of Music Coalition conference looks great. http://t.co/lJZtg44AFS

nice, sandy Perlman and Wayne Kramer are guests
The Keynote speakers look pretty dry...
local music showcase..but doesn't have any details
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Post by: azaghal1981 on September 17, 2013, 11:57:54 am
John Conyers could be good.
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Post by: wml7 on September 17, 2013, 12:03:43 pm
For DFA1979...nice interview with Josh and Dean from QOTSA here:

https://soundcloud.com/thestromboshow/stromboshow-sept15-2013

More of the story here
http://consequenceofsound.net/2013/09/someone-actually-hates-jay-z-and-his-name-is-josh-homme/
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Post by: atomic on September 17, 2013, 12:42:53 pm
For DFA1979...nice interview with Josh and Dean from QOTSA here:

https://soundcloud.com/thestromboshow/stromboshow-sept15-2013

More of the story here
http://consequenceofsound.net/2013/09/someone-actually-hates-jay-z-and-his-name-is-josh-homme/

Not worth reading.  Ok so you don't like getting gifts of 300 dollar bottles of champagne.
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Post by: James Ford on September 17, 2013, 12:50:13 pm
Every time I read something about that Josh Homme guy, he's always hating someone or wanting to punch someone. Seems like he needs to grow the fuck up.
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Post by: bearman🐻 on September 17, 2013, 01:53:53 pm
Every time I read something about that Josh Homme guy, he's always hating someone or wanting to punch someone. Seems like he needs to grow the fuck up.

Who ever said rock'n'roll was nice? Since when did everyone need to get along? Someone throws shit at him at his concert and he sticks up for himself. Seems justified. He's about to do a festival and feels like he's being treated like a criminal as he's about to get on the stage that'll be his for the next 60 minutes. Conveying that he's annoyed likewise seems legit. There's a TON of other interesting info to the interview that is way more relevant, but he makes one stray observation and the media wants to turn it into a feud just because he had the balls to express a feeling about someone that nobody else will say an unkind thing about. Sometimes people wear the black hat but it doesn't mean they are an evil person. Watch "Crossfire Hurricane", the Stones documentary. Rock'n'roll may be a dying genre, but that doesn't mean everyone is done writing the epilogue.
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Post by: i am gay and i like cats on September 17, 2013, 02:51:58 pm
can't believe there are still lawsuits over samples on pauls boutique

http://movies.yahoo.com/news/beastie-boys-cant-escape-pauls-boutique-sampling-lawsuit-050000640.html

yeah . . . stealing is weird that way.
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Post by: K8teebug on September 20, 2013, 01:51:12 pm
I don't know if it's their new song or not as I do not like them, but the MGMT song Celebration sounds exactly like Friend of the Devil by the Grateful Dead.
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Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 20, 2013, 03:27:42 pm
I just witnessed Tim Burgess schedule the Chemical Brothers to DJ a charity gig in honor of The Charlatans drummer via Twitter.
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Post by: atomic on September 20, 2013, 03:47:37 pm
I just witnessed Tim Burgess schedule the Chemical Brothers to DJ a charity gig in honor of The Charlatans drummer via Twitter.

You were with him when he made the tweet?
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Post by: atomic on September 20, 2013, 03:48:11 pm
I don't know if it's their new song or not as I do not like them, but the MGMT song Celebration sounds exactly like Friend of the Devil by the Grateful Dead.

Are you sure you don't mean the song "Congratulations" which came out in 2010?
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Post by: Justin Tonation on September 22, 2013, 10:09:32 pm
(http://www.listofhealthyfoods.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/sad-clown.jpg)

Gathering of the Juggalos Is Headed for Bankruptcy... (http://www.digitalmusicnews.com/permalink/2013/20130922juggalos#oOBFJFZyRHplNWczALOlyA)
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Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 23, 2013, 08:03:15 am
(http://www.listofhealthyfoods.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/sad-clown.jpg)

Gathering of the Juggalos Is Headed for Bankruptcy... (http://www.digitalmusicnews.com/permalink/2013/20130922juggalos#oOBFJFZyRHplNWczALOlyA)
Wow! I'm truly stunned! An event designed to cater to a demographic of people who hold down jobs with such regularity and have so much disposable income failed? Did not see this coming!
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Post by: slappy on September 24, 2013, 10:51:00 am
Like her or not, M.I.A. had a good response to the NFL's comical $1.5m fine on her sophomoric flipping the bird during the Super Bowl©.

"It's a massive waste of time, a massive waste of money, it?s a massive display of powerful corporation dick-shaking. They want me on my knees and say sorry so they can slap me on my wrist."

Can't tell who's getting played? Her, the NFL, or us by both parties.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyVh0O8DiCs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyVh0O8DiCs)
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Post by: bearman🐻 on September 26, 2013, 02:56:33 pm
This is a fun read: http://www.stereogum.com/1495262/read-steve-albinis-four-page-in-utero-proposal/news/
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Post by: Relaxer on September 26, 2013, 03:46:55 pm
This is a fun read: http://www.stereogum.com/1495262/read-steve-albinis-four-page-in-utero-proposal/news/

That's great. Kinda sad reading the part about how doesn't like to have his recordings remixed, given what happened with Scott Litt and Heart-Shaped Box and All Apologies.
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Post by: i am gay and i like cats on September 26, 2013, 05:49:20 pm
Like her or not, M.I.A. had a good response to the NFL's comical $1.5m fine on her sophomoric flipping the bird during the Super Bowl©.

"It's a massive waste of time, a massive waste of money, it?s a massive display of powerful corporation dick-shaking. They want me on my knees and say sorry so they can slap me on my wrist."

Can't tell who's getting played? Her, the NFL, or us by both parties.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyVh0O8DiCs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyVh0O8DiCs)

i think it was stupid on her part to do that.  so many artists would have killed for that spot.  she was pissed that whats her name was more important than her at the moment.  she should have had some respect for the opportunity that was.  i mean really.  r, e, s, p, e, c, t . . . that is what it means to me.  did that sound old man rant?
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Post by: killsaly on October 01, 2013, 01:38:22 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=eY4ZXpsoOUg

The best ever Jesus and Mary Chain interview, recorded in 1986. 
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Post by: bearman🐻 on October 01, 2013, 02:13:35 pm
Joy Division awful? Unambitious? What a bunch of twats.
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Post by: atomic on October 01, 2013, 03:13:48 pm
Joy Division awful? Unambitious? What a bunch of twats.

Joy Division was an awful band.  One decent song.  New Order is 100 times better.
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Post by: bearman🐻 on October 01, 2013, 04:17:39 pm
Joy Division awful? Unambitious? What a bunch of twats.

Joy Division was an awful band.  One decent song.  New Order is 100 times better.

Yawn.
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Post by: atomic on October 01, 2013, 04:49:36 pm
Joy Division awful? Unambitious? What a bunch of twats.

Joy Division was an awful band.  One decent song.  New Order is 100 times better.

Yawn.

Yeah that is how I feel about Joy Division.  Boring.  But "Love will tear us apart" was a decent song.  They should have done more like that one.
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Post by: bearman🐻 on October 01, 2013, 05:04:06 pm
Joy Division awful? Unambitious? What a bunch of twats.

Joy Division was an awful band.  One decent song.  New Order is 100 times better.

Yawn.

Yeah that is how I feel about Joy Division.  Boring.  But "Love will tear us apart" was a decent song.  They should have done more like that one.

Nope. They were and are perfect. Their music is a soulful gift to thousands (possibly millions) of people who think they were one of the most dramatic and flawless examples of modern music is. And I'm grateful that they never had the chance to be overplayed and commercialized the way New Order was. I love New Order too for completely different reasons, but ultimately Joy Division will always trump New Order. And if you don't understand why "Transmission", "Shadowplay", "Atmosphere" and "Dead Souls" are some of the greatest pieces of recorded music, then I suggest you revisit them with open ears. Maybe you'll change your mind.
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Post by: atomic on October 01, 2013, 05:30:29 pm
Joy Division awful? Unambitious? What a bunch of twats.

Joy Division was an awful band.  One decent song.  New Order is 100 times better.

Yawn.

Yeah that is how I feel about Joy Division.  Boring.  But "Love will tear us apart" was a decent song.  They should have done more like that one.

Nope. They were and are perfect. Their music is a soulful gift to thousands (possibly millions) of people who think they were one of the most dramatic and flawless examples of modern music is. And I'm grateful that they never had the chance to be overplayed and commercialized the way New Order was. I love New Order too for completely different reasons, but ultimately Joy Division will always trump New Order. And if you don't understand why "Transmission", "Shadowplay", "Atmosphere" and "Dead Souls" are some of the greatest pieces of recorded music, then I suggest you revisit them with open ears. Maybe you'll change your mind.

"Dead Souls" is a good song.  I do like Nine Inch Nails version better though.  New Order is better as it is more original and you can dance to it.  Sorry I am not a fan of Joy Division.  I listened to that stuff when it first came out.  Funny there used to be a band in Baltimore called Grey March that was a Joy Division rip off band and I love them.  But I think they had a little more kick to their music.  Who knows I like Interpol's first couple of albums as well. 
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Post by: kosmo vinyl on October 01, 2013, 06:32:56 pm
Not sure what Just Announced thread this goes in, so I'm stuffin it here.

Brendan Benson and Friends, a concert benefiting the Veterans and Children of Nashville, presented by the David Lynch Foundation Live and Lightning 100. The night will be filled with special performances from Brendan Benson with , Adriel Denae, Eric Burdon, Butch Walker, Jessie Baylin, Ken Stringfellow, Jon Auer, Cory Chisel, Willy Mason, The Howlin? Brothers (also opening), Young Hines, Jack White and more
TBA.


Ryman Auditorium
Nashville, TN

Tickets on sale 10/4:
http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/1B004B3C10A3A53B
 
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Post by: killsaly on October 01, 2013, 07:06:41 pm
http://www.redbull.com/us/en/music/stories/1331613196703/best-30-guitarists-under-30-part-1
I watched a few of these guitarists this year (Daniel Bachman, Denny Bowen of Roomrunner, Sadie Dupuis of Speedy Ortiz, and Phoebe Harris of Potty Mouth).
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Post by: vansmack on October 01, 2013, 08:01:04 pm
Nope. They were and are perfect. Their music is a soulful gift to thousands (possibly millions) of people who think they were one of the most dramatic and flawless examples of modern music is. And I'm grateful that they never had the chance to be overplayed and commercialized the way New Order was. I love New Order too for completely different reasons, but ultimately Joy Division will always trump New Order. And if you don't understand why "Transmission", "Shadowplay", "Atmosphere" and "Dead Souls" are some of the greatest pieces of recorded music, then I suggest you revisit them with open ears. Maybe you'll change your mind.

This is the best thing to come out of the government shutdown so far.
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Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 01, 2013, 11:33:13 pm
Nope. They were and are perfect. Their music is a soulful gift to thousands (possibly millions) of people who think they were one of the most dramatic and flawless examples of modern music is. And I'm grateful that they never had the chance to be overplayed and commercialized the way New Order was. I love New Order too for completely different reasons, but ultimately Joy Division will always trump New Order. And if you don't understand why "Transmission", "Shadowplay", "Atmosphere" and "Dead Souls" are some of the greatest pieces of recorded music, then I suggest you revisit them with open ears. Maybe you'll change your mind.

This is the best thing to come out of the government shutdown so far.

+1
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Post by: azaghal1981 on October 01, 2013, 11:53:21 pm
Haha a friend of mine was complaining about this list tonight.

http://www.redbull.com/us/en/music/stories/1331613196703/best-30-guitarists-under-30-part-1
I watched a few of these guitarists this year (Daniel Bachman, Denny Bowen of Roomrunner, Sadie Dupuis of Speedy Ortiz, and Phoebe Harris of Potty Mouth).
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: ggw on October 02, 2013, 12:26:31 am
Not sure what Just Announced thread this goes in, so I'm stuffin it here.

Brendan Benson and Friends, a concert benefiting the Veterans and Children of Nashville, presented by the David Lynch Foundation Live and Lightning 100. The night will be filled with special performances from Brendan Benson with , Adriel Denae, Eric Burdon, Butch Walker, Jessie Baylin, Ken Stringfellow, Jon Auer, Cory Chisel, Willy Mason, The Howlin? Brothers (also opening), Young Hines, Jack White and more
TBA.


Ryman Auditorium
Nashville, TN

Tickets on sale 10/4:
http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/1B004B3C10A3A53B
 

I find this concert strangely fascinating.  The David Lynch Foundation is all about promoting Transcendental Meditation - not that there's anything wrong with that.  Interesting line-up. 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on October 02, 2013, 12:38:35 am
Not a bad list, over all. There are a few headscratchers but it's hard to argue with most of those.
Marissa Paternoster is not 30 yet, is she? She better be in the second half if not!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on October 02, 2013, 12:58:43 pm
http://blip.tv/indieacrossamerica/episode-2-sharkweek-and-baltimore-6648715
Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit.

The hell is wrong with Blip.TV?  DO some research!  If you are doing a segment on BALTIMORE bands and the city's scene, DO NOT feature a DC band.  http://sharkweekdc.bandcamp.com/

Is there any doubt that Shark Week are a DC band?  NO.  I dont know why they agreed to this.  Playing three shows in a city in a year does NOT MEAN THE BAND IS SPLITTING TIME between DC and Baltimore.  You are a DC band Shark Week, you should be on the DC episode of this. 

I actually like Shark Week, but no.  Were the 500 good BALTIMORE bands busy?  Did the producers get lazy?  The hell is the point of this? 

Sorry but this is just annoying.  I love Baltimore's scene (as I am sure most of you who pay attention to what I post know) and this is not about a Baltimore band.  I will give them credit for the way they DESCRIBE the Baltimore, DIY scene.  But no. 

END RANT
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Vas Deferens on October 02, 2013, 01:55:21 pm
http://blogs.citypaper.com/noise/index.php/2013/10/geico-claims-it-will-give-baltimore-identity-by-promoting-shitty-d-c-band-baltimore-says-fuck-off/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+citypaper%2FGHKN+%28City+Paper+-+Arts%29
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: chaz on October 02, 2013, 02:12:32 pm
http://blip.tv/indieacrossamerica/episode-2-sharkweek-and-baltimore-6648715
Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit, Bullshit.

The hell is wrong with Blip.TV?  DO some research!  If you are doing a segment on BALTIMORE bands and the city's scene, DO NOT feature a DC band.  http://sharkweekdc.bandcamp.com/

Is there any doubt that Shark Week are a DC band?  NO.  I dont know why they agreed to this.  Playing three shows in a city in a year does NOT MEAN THE BAND IS SPLITTING TIME between DC and Baltimore.  You are a DC band Shark Week, you should be on the DC episode of this. 

I actually like Shark Week, but no.  Were the 500 good BALTIMORE bands busy?  Did the producers get lazy?  The hell is the point of this? 

Sorry but this is just annoying.  I love Baltimore's scene (as I am sure most of you who pay attention to what I post know) and this is not about a Baltimore band.  I will give them credit for the way they DESCRIBE the Baltimore, DIY scene.  But no. 

END RANT
after watching the first 30 seconds of this moronic piece of crap the whole dc/balt thing is the last thing i take exception too.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on October 02, 2013, 02:19:43 pm
That was what was on my mind when i typed my rant.  I also had a huge problem with the statement quoted below, from the City Paper write up:

Quote
?Here?s the thing, I looked into Baltimore and I couldn?t find out a whole lot about its music scene,? Holmes says, as if his first name were Sherlock. He evidently did not look to our own Big Baltimore Playlist or talk to any of the many local labels. And he acts as if he has never even heard that Rolling Stone named Baltimore the best music scene in the country in 2008, pretending that bands like Beach House, Wye Oak, and Dan Deacon don?t exist.

But, have no fear because Holmes promises that ?We?re going to give this place an identity. We?re putting Baltimore on the map.?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on October 02, 2013, 06:06:44 pm
the only thing i know a boot baltimore music, is one thing, and that is not saying a lot.  when a band plays dc, it sells out.  when a band plays baltimore, it does not.  equal sized cities?  equal sized, people give a shit about?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on October 02, 2013, 10:01:04 pm
Part 2 of that Red Bull list is full of more meh-ness but most of the best ones were hit IMO. http://www.redbull.com/us/en/music/stories/1331612905828/30-guitarists-under-30-part2

I guess he was running out of options when he started tapping Vampire Weekend, Diiv and Fallout Boy.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on October 08, 2013, 07:47:30 am
Got an extra GA ticket for the Pearl Jam Baltimore show.  It's going to be an evening with the band as their is no warm-up act scheduled.  Send me a PM if you are interested.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: bearman🐻 on October 08, 2013, 03:11:42 pm
I just noticed this for the Pixies' Strathmore gig:

"The Music Center at Strathmore is located in North Bethesda, MD. Sales to this event will be restricted to residents of NJ, PA, DE, VA, DC,WVA & NC. Residency will be based on credit card billing address. Orders by residents outside NJ, PA, DE, VA, DC,WVA & NC will be canceled without notice and refunds given. DOORS OPEN AT 7PM. Delivery delay set and will be lifted 11/10/13."

Seriously?? I think this is absolutely unfair. Who decides this? Ticketmaster?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 08, 2013, 04:08:03 pm
Ironically maryland isn't on the list of acceptable states.

The richmond show has a similar restriction which we discussed in JA:Commentary (which is an idiotic construct that causes people to miss things). Since these venues only seem to be doing it for this show, I am guessing its Pixies' doing.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 08, 2013, 04:45:59 pm
I just noticed this for the Pixies' Strathmore gig:

"The Music Center at Strathmore is located in North Bethesda, MD. Sales to this event will be restricted to residents of NJ, PA, DE, VA, DC,WVA & NC. Residency will be based on credit card billing address. Orders by residents outside NJ, PA, DE, VA, DC,WVA & NC will be canceled without notice and refunds given. DOORS OPEN AT 7PM. Delivery delay set and will be lifted 11/10/13."

Seriously?? I think this is absolutely unfair. Who decides this? Ticketmaster?
Kinda makes it impossible to follow a tour across the country (not that my old ass can do that anymore) Or catch a show when you know you'll be in that particular town that weekend
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on October 08, 2013, 04:52:39 pm
I just noticed this for the Pixies' Strathmore gig:

"The Music Center at Strathmore is located in North Bethesda, MD. Sales to this event will be restricted to residents of NJ, PA, DE, VA, DC,WVA & NC. Residency will be based on credit card billing address. Orders by residents outside NJ, PA, DE, VA, DC,WVA & NC will be canceled without notice and refunds given. DOORS OPEN AT 7PM. Delivery delay set and will be lifted 11/10/13."

Seriously?? I think this is absolutely unfair. Who decides this? Ticketmaster?
Kinda makes it impossible to follow a tour across the country (not that my old ass can do that anymore) Or catch a show when you know you'll be in that particular town that weekend

People tour with the Pixies?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on October 09, 2013, 07:13:53 am
I just noticed this for the Pixies' Strathmore gig:

"The Music Center at Strathmore is located in North Bethesda, MD. Sales to this event will be restricted to residents of NJ, PA, DE, VA, DC,WVA & NC. Residency will be based on credit card billing address. Orders by residents outside NJ, PA, DE, VA, DC,WVA & NC will be canceled without notice and refunds given. DOORS OPEN AT 7PM. Delivery delay set and will be lifted 11/10/13."

Seriously?? I think this is absolutely unfair. Who decides this? Ticketmaster?
Kinda makes it impossible to follow a tour across the country (not that my old ass can do that anymore) Or catch a show when you know you'll be in that particular town that weekend

People tour with the Pixies?

oh yah....their set lists are so unpredictable

i particularly love the debaser>is she weird>monkey gone to heaven >debaser  from hampton 2005..epic..particularly the chuck berry tease santiago throws in there..
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on October 09, 2013, 07:35:06 am
(https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1385289_10151932064705638_1210858769_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on October 09, 2013, 09:11:14 am
My extra PJ ticket has been taken.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on October 11, 2013, 07:48:48 am
Well this is rich over hyped crappy brotrance artist Deadmau5  is taking a swipe at Dubstep...

"Top 20 Most Influential Dubstep Tracks of All Time" ..all 3 years of it? or are you just counting the 2 years it was supposedly cool? 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on October 11, 2013, 10:18:07 am
good news

http://www.spin.com/articles/flag-black-greg-ginn-lawsuit-won-keith-morris-henry-rollins/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: bearman🐻 on October 11, 2013, 10:27:32 am
Well, so much for no Kim Deal...looks like the Pixies sold out. Good for them.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 11, 2013, 10:37:14 am
Well, so much for no Kim Deal...looks like the Pixies sold out. Good for them.
Richmond is about to as well. I was going to hold off until I go to the venue tomorrow for NMH but it doesn't look like they'll last past noon.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on October 11, 2013, 10:52:32 am
I grabbed two for Electric Factory... Anyone else making the trek north? 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: wml7 on October 11, 2013, 10:55:06 am
Got my Richmond ticket during the presale
 ;D
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 11, 2013, 10:57:32 am
Got my Richmond ticket during the presale
 ;D
JULIAN'S AMERICA PREGAME MEET-UP?? Who else is going to RVA? Betao?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: wml7 on October 11, 2013, 12:27:54 pm
Got my Richmond ticket during the presale
 ;D
JULIAN'S AMERICA PREGAME MEET-UP?? Who else is going to RVA? Betao?

He will probably working the show
 ;D
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 11, 2013, 12:41:00 pm
Got my Richmond ticket during the presale
 ;D
JULIAN'S AMERICA PREGAME MEET-UP?? Who else is going to RVA? Betao?

He will probably working the show
 ;D
Does The Jefferson work for everyone?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 11, 2013, 01:32:26 pm
Well I kinda thought Greg Ginn was being a d!ck and glad he lost the suit
the boys of FLAG put on a hell of a show and think it's a crime to not let the guys who were a part of that not continue to play that music to crowds who are just dying to see it

Ginn loses to Morris (http://www.spin.com/articles/flag-black-greg-ginn-lawsuit-won-keith-morris-henry-rollins/)

A judge found that: SST has no rights to the Black Flag copyright; Ginn has no special rights to any of the trademarks; neither Ginn nor the label gave a damn about copyrghts or trademarks until now; Rollins never quit Black Flag (!); fans are smart enough to know which band is which; and nobody tried to screw anybody over, so let's all give it a rest
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on October 11, 2013, 01:33:19 pm
Well I kinda thought Greg Ginn was being a d!ck and glad he lost the suit
the boys of FLAG put on a hell of a show and think it's a crime to not let the guys who were a part of that not continue to play that music to crowds who are just dying to see it

Ginn loses to Morris (http://www.spin.com/articles/flag-black-greg-ginn-lawsuit-won-keith-morris-henry-rollins/)

crusty bread
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on October 14, 2013, 01:21:07 pm
http://www.guitargeek.com/andy-bell-hurricane-number-1-guitar-rgi-and-gear-setup-1996/
Anyone into guitar pedals and signal chains?
Here is Andy Bell's from Hurricane #1
(http://www.guitargeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/hurricane_no1_andy_bell_1996.jpg)
Right now mine goes tuner, EH Freeze Sustain, devi ever ROcket fuzz, Boss Metal Zone, EH Memory Man with Hazarai Delay, BBE Two Timer Delay, Boost 21 RVB reverb, TC XII Phaser, and a Seymour Duncan Shapeshifter Tremolo.  I also have a few others to work into the mix, or will buy (have a chorus pedal but my amp has good chorus so i dont use it, also buying a TC Ditto Looper.. also more Fuzz pedals but i am running out of room).  Should I move my Tremolo after the distortion? Move the two delays to the end?  Bring phaser up?  I am in the middle of experimenting... but would gladly take suggestions!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: K8teebug on October 15, 2013, 10:00:37 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HW4mwjSIkoE

I don't know where else to put this.  Cutest cat ever interviewing Steve Albini.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: bearman🐻 on October 15, 2013, 12:39:18 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HW4mwjSIkoE

I don't know where else to put this.  Cutest cat ever interviewing Steve Albini.

Thank you thank you thank you. LOVE this.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on October 15, 2013, 01:01:06 pm
I saw that the other day and Albini reminded me of a grown up Steve Smith from American Dad. 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: slappy on October 15, 2013, 01:57:33 pm
Rapper's Real Name or Republican Congressman?
http://www.buzzfeed.com/alexnaidus/rappers-real-name-or-republican-congressman (http://www.buzzfeed.com/alexnaidus/rappers-real-name-or-republican-congressman)

Ikea furniture or Black Metal Band?
ikeaordeath.com (http://ikeaordeath.com)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on October 16, 2013, 05:43:08 pm
I dont usually like album reviews, but Jarred and Peteys review corner is great!
http://singintothecomputer.tumblr.com/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on October 17, 2013, 11:34:28 am
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/artsdesk/music/2013/10/16/living-in-synth-a-flowchart-and-playlist-for-d-c-s-electronic-pop-scene/
A cool chart of electronic-pop/synthpop/darkwave/whatever in DC for your enjoyment!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on October 17, 2013, 12:50:08 pm
Anyone into guitar pedals and signal chains?

i play guitar, occasionally and have a bunch of effects.  but i don't play in a band or perform live, so the order of my effects are always changing.  needing to perform songs like would force me to settle on an order. 

Should I move my Tremolo after the distortion? Move the two delays to the end?  Bring phaser up?  I am in the middle of experimenting... but would gladly take suggestions!

i generally put temporal effects at the end, so i would move the delay and tremolo to the end of the chain (put tremolo in front of delay). 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on October 18, 2013, 08:01:19 am
A friend of mine helps assemble the Red Panda effects pedal based in Detroit.

http://redpandalab.com/

Henry Kaiser uses one in his touring pedalboard

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/bed564b05839afc3f3d53821d6790b5d/tumblr_mowsi1RmxP1qankfzo1_500.jpg)

http://redpandalab.tumblr.com/post/53771275544/henry-kaisers-touring-pedalboard-built-by
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on October 18, 2013, 09:02:21 am
Any recommendations on where to start in the Goblin discography?  Looks like i need to play a little catch on their 35+ year career. I had seen the name mentioned, but looked them up when Calibro 35 were compared to them.  And they seem right up my alley...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on October 18, 2013, 10:14:07 am
Nice pedal board! And it has the next pedal on my to buy list, TC Ditto Looper...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Unsanity on October 19, 2013, 03:13:40 am
Any recommendations on where to start in the Goblin discography?  Looks like i need to play a little catch on their 35+ year career. I had seen the name mentioned, but looked them up when Calibro 35 were compared to them.  And they seem right up my alley...

I first got into Goblin by watching the movie "Suspiria" Then checked out the soundtrack by them. That's as good a place as any to start. Then Proceed to listen to albums like "Roller" and "Il fantastico viaggio del bagarozzo Mark" then perhaps check out more soundtracks "Dawn of The Dead"
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on October 21, 2013, 03:17:45 pm
Thanks for the Goblin tips!  Calibro 35 are worth checking out for their Italian soundtrack inspired funk.

Found out today Idlewild are back in the studio!!!!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Got Haggis? on October 21, 2013, 03:36:38 pm
i don't know where else to put this but

that nine inch nails show friday night was fucking incredible

godspeed were also great - it was crazy watching their projectionist dude live mix 6 old school film projectors with film splices

nine inch nails stage show is the best use of tech ever in a stage show imho...its mind boggling

edit: oh yeah, he gave a shoutout to the 930 club....said the first time they played dc was at the old 930 club opening up for skinny puppy
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: K8teebug on October 23, 2013, 10:16:56 am
i don't know where else to put this but

that nine inch nails show friday night was fucking incredible

godspeed were also great - it was crazy watching their projectionist dude live mix 6 old school film projectors with film splices

nine inch nails stage show is the best use of tech ever in a stage show imho...its mind boggling

edit: oh yeah, he gave a shoutout to the 930 club....said the first time they played dc was at the old 930 club opening up for skinny puppy


So glad to hear it!  I'm sad I missed it.  I love NIN's stage setup.  And Trent Reznor's arms.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on October 23, 2013, 10:57:43 am
http://musicfeeds.com.au/news/engineer-turns-hardcore-band-into-edm-nightmare-after-they-fail-to-pay/
If you are in a band, you have to pay people for the work they do in support of you! Or this happens...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on October 23, 2013, 01:03:33 pm
http://adhoc.fm/post/first-residents-ultimate-box-set-sold/
The Residents sold their first $100,000 Ultimate Box Set.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: bearman🐻 on October 23, 2013, 04:56:33 pm
i don't know where else to put this but

that nine inch nails show friday night was fucking incredible

godspeed were also great - it was crazy watching their projectionist dude live mix 6 old school film projectors with film splices

nine inch nails stage show is the best use of tech ever in a stage show imho...its mind boggling

edit: oh yeah, he gave a shoutout to the 930 club....said the first time they played dc was at the old 930 club opening up for skinny puppy


I concur. To me that show felt like an hour long. It went by so fast. Absolutely stunningly beautiful.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on October 25, 2013, 01:47:00 pm
http://pitchforkreviewgenerator.com/

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on October 25, 2013, 01:57:29 pm
http://pitchforkreviewgenerator.com/



pitchfork is so awful..they don't get it..they don't get ROCK AND ROLL. ..they just dont... all you have to do is read their reviews of the hellacopters to see they don't get it.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomic on October 25, 2013, 02:13:29 pm
http://pitchforkreviewgenerator.com/



pitchfork is so awful..they don't get it..they don't get ROCK AND ROLL. ..they just dont... all you have to do is read their reviews of the hellacopters to see they don't get it.

Or their reviews of Coldplay and Muse. 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on October 25, 2013, 02:22:44 pm
http://pitchforkreviewgenerator.com/



pitchfork is so awful..they don't get it..they don't get ROCK AND ROLL. ..they just dont... all you have to do is read their reviews of the hellacopters to see they don't get it.

Or their reviews of Coldplay and Muse. 

if coldplay is rock and roll i'm sherlock holmes..
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: James Ford on October 25, 2013, 02:33:08 pm
And if Muse is any good, then I'm James Ford.

http://pitchforkreviewgenerator.com/



pitchfork is so awful..they don't get it..they don't get ROCK AND ROLL. ..they just dont... all you have to do is read their reviews of the hellacopters to see they don't get it.

Or their reviews of Coldplay and Muse. 

if coldplay is rock and roll i'm sherlock holmes..

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on October 25, 2013, 02:56:37 pm
I was embarassed for Pitchfork reading their reviews of the Hellacopters... they didn't even bother to review High Visibility which is the greatest rock and roll record of the past 15 years..

my conclusion was modern music,, what largely passes for rock and roll, is for pussies...it is such fey weak shit..

here you have Hellacopters record this amazing vintage rock and roll record...

accordign to the pitchfork's of the world if you recorded something as good as ACDC's Back in Black it wouldn't matter because it wouldn't get past their fucked up sense of what good music is.

disgraceful..

i am so angry i better get off the internets..
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on October 25, 2013, 02:57:32 pm
And if Muse is any good, then I'm James Ford.

http://pitchforkreviewgenerator.com/



pitchfork is so awful..they don't get it..they don't get ROCK AND ROLL. ..they just dont... all you have to do is read their reviews of the hellacopters to see they don't get it.

Or their reviews of Coldplay and Muse. 

if coldplay is rock and roll i'm sherlock holmes..


but you're not, right?

i mean your name is not james ford.. is that what you're saying dude? i want to be in on your joke mahn..can you help me?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: James Ford on October 25, 2013, 03:07:22 pm
My name is not James Ford. Is your name really Hutch? I though we both got our names from tv characters.

I don't really get the appeal of Muse. But then again, I'm not really a rock kind of guy to begin with.

Though I do agree with your assessments of pitchfork, and I do think that 99% of indie rock is total garbage.

Don't get angry, it's just music.

And if Muse is any good, then I'm James Ford.

http://pitchforkreviewgenerator.com/



pitchfork is so awful..they don't get it..they don't get ROCK AND ROLL. ..they just dont... all you have to do is read their reviews of the hellacopters to see they don't get it.

Or their reviews of Coldplay and Muse. 

if coldplay is rock and roll i'm sherlock holmes..


but you're not, right?

i mean your name is not james ford.. is that what you're saying dude? i want to be in on your joke mahn..can you help me?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on October 25, 2013, 03:10:44 pm
My name is not James Ford. Is your name really Hutch? I though we both got our names from tv characters.

I don't really get the appeal of Muse. But then again, I'm not really a rock kind of guy to begin with.

Though I do agree with your assessments of pitchfork, and I do think that 99% of indie rock is total garbage.

Don't get angry, it's just music.

And if Muse is any good, then I'm James Ford.

http://pitchforkreviewgenerator.com/



pitchfork is so awful..they don't get it..they don't get ROCK AND ROLL. ..they just dont... all you have to do is read their reviews of the hellacopters to see they don't get it.

Or their reviews of Coldplay and Muse. 

if coldplay is rock and roll i'm sherlock holmes..


but you're not, right?

i mean your name is not james ford.. is that what you're saying dude? i want to be in on your joke mahn..can you help me?

i wasn't angry..  i thought i was being clever

i have no idea what pitchfork thinks of muse.. i think they totally suck..

its not rock and roll

this is the problem with pitchfork: if anyone actually creates rock and roll they call it a fake and the shit they call rock and roll isn't rock and roll..

that makes me mad. .not you man.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: chaz on October 25, 2013, 03:25:46 pm
at least they gave the new motorhead record a 7.6
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on October 25, 2013, 03:29:29 pm
at least they gave the new motorhead record a 7.6


yeah..well they have to do that, no...its motorhead... this is what places like pitchfork do..they talk favorably about bands from yesteryear but if a new band tries to do something like that its like FUCK NO you are a POSEUR... they didn't even review high visibility i tell ya!

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomic on October 25, 2013, 03:37:34 pm
http://pitchforkreviewgenerator.com/



pitchfork is so awful..they don't get it..they don't get ROCK AND ROLL. ..they just dont... all you have to do is read their reviews of the hellacopters to see they don't get it.

Or their reviews of Coldplay and Muse. 

if coldplay is rock and roll i'm sherlock holmes..


What are they then Ska?  Geez.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: James Ford on October 25, 2013, 03:42:21 pm
Musical theater. Like Muse. And Glee.

http://pitchforkreviewgenerator.com/



pitchfork is so awful..they don't get it..they don't get ROCK AND ROLL. ..they just dont... all you have to do is read their reviews of the hellacopters to see they don't get it.

Or their reviews of Coldplay and Muse. 

if coldplay is rock and roll i'm sherlock holmes..


What are they then Ska?  Geez.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomic on October 25, 2013, 03:45:18 pm
Musical theater. Like Muse. And Glee.

http://pitchforkreviewgenerator.com/



pitchfork is so awful..they don't get it..they don't get ROCK AND ROLL. ..they just dont... all you have to do is read their reviews of the hellacopters to see they don't get it.

Or their reviews of Coldplay and Muse. 

if coldplay is rock and roll i'm sherlock holmes..


What are they then Ska?  Geez.

Musical theater is cool.  A lot better than Motorhead that is for sure.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomic on October 25, 2013, 03:46:26 pm
at least they gave the new motorhead record a 7.6


yeah..well they have to do that, no...its motorhead... this is what places like pitchfork do..they talk favorably about bands from yesteryear but if a new band tries to do something like that its like FUCK NO you are a POSEUR... they didn't even review high visibility i tell ya!



Let me tell you the only review of a  band I need is the  number of hot woman at the show.  Motorhead none.  Coldplay quite a lot.  Tori Amos the whole crowd.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on October 25, 2013, 03:48:53 pm
at least they gave the new motorhead record a 7.6


yeah..well they have to do that, no...its motorhead... this is what places like pitchfork do..they talk favorably about bands from yesteryear but if a new band tries to do something like that its like FUCK NO you are a POSEUR... they didn't even review high visibility i tell ya!



Let me tell you the only review of a  band I need is the  number of hot woman at the show.  Motorhead none.  Coldplay quite a lot.  Tori Amos the whole crowd.

yeah but the kind of women at tori amos show are all psychos dude (or lesbians)...stay away...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: James Ford on October 25, 2013, 03:50:13 pm
Would your wife agree with this statement?

at least they gave the new motorhead record a 7.6


yeah..well they have to do that, no...its motorhead... this is what places like pitchfork do..they talk favorably about bands from yesteryear but if a new band tries to do something like that its like FUCK NO you are a POSEUR... they didn't even review high visibility i tell ya!



Let me tell you the only review of a  band I need is the  number of hot woman at the show.  Motorhead none.  Coldplay quite a lot.  Tori Amos the whole crowd.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: chaz on October 25, 2013, 04:14:52 pm
Musical theater. Like Muse. And Glee.

http://pitchforkreviewgenerator.com/



pitchfork is so awful..they don't get it..they don't get ROCK AND ROLL. ..they just dont... all you have to do is read their reviews of the hellacopters to see they don't get it.

Or their reviews of Coldplay and Muse. 

if coldplay is rock and roll i'm sherlock holmes..


What are they then Ska?  Geez.

Musical theater is cool.  A lot better than Motorhead that is for sure.
you are so lame
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomic on October 25, 2013, 04:18:05 pm
Would your wife agree with this statement?

at least they gave the new motorhead record a 7.6


yeah..well they have to do that, no...its motorhead... this is what places like pitchfork do..they talk favorably about bands from yesteryear but if a new band tries to do something like that its like FUCK NO you are a POSEUR... they didn't even review high visibility i tell ya!



Let me tell you the only review of a  band I need is the  number of hot woman at the show.  Motorhead none.  Coldplay quite a lot.  Tori Amos the whole crowd.

She hasn't seen Coldplay or Motorhead. 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomic on October 25, 2013, 04:19:12 pm
That would bother  me except you think Motorhead is better than Musicals.   So you opinion is pretty meaningless


Musical theater. Like Muse. And Glee.

http://pitchforkreviewgenerator.com/



pitchfork is so awful..they don't get it..they don't get ROCK AND ROLL. ..they just dont... all you have to do is read their reviews of the hellacopters to see they don't get it.

Or their reviews of Coldplay and Muse. 

if coldplay is rock and roll i'm sherlock holmes..


What are they then Ska?  Geez.

Musical theater is cool.  A lot better than Motorhead that is for sure.
you are so lame
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: chaz on October 25, 2013, 04:28:44 pm
That would bother  me except you think Motorhead is better than Musicals.   


comedy gold
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomic on October 25, 2013, 04:36:36 pm
That would bother  me except you think Motorhead is better than Musicals.   


comedy gold


The comedy is that you like Motorhead.   They have one song that is even mediocre in quality ("Ace of Spades").  Are you trying to tell me you think their music is better than  Rodgers and Hammerstein?  No one could have that bad taste, could they?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on October 25, 2013, 04:46:45 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fN3s-0Gp8z4
The worst.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on October 25, 2013, 04:47:42 pm
finally some good old fashioned action on this board..it has been S L O W lately..

thank you Atomic, thank you Chaz.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: chaz on October 25, 2013, 04:52:11 pm
I'm just enjoying the absurdity of the Rogers and Hammerstein vs Motorhead comment.

Who the hell would even compare Motorhead to "Musicals"?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on October 25, 2013, 05:01:10 pm
finally some good old fashioned action on this board..it has been S L O W lately..

thank you Atomic, thank you Chaz.

(http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/AWWW_a7fe03_734128.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on October 30, 2013, 08:32:42 pm
Cool set of posters from the UK, where an album and it's song title is turned into a series of Penguin book. Stone Roses, James, New Order, Smiths, Krafttwerk etc albums have done so far.

http://www.etsy.com/listing/156076969/the-stone-roses-poster-print-debut-album

(http://img0.etsystatic.com/021/1/6097572/il_570xN.477235160_pz86.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on November 08, 2013, 05:47:18 pm
US Version
http://noisey.vice.com/blog/what-your-terrible-taste-in-music-says-about-you

UK Version
http://noisey.vice.com/en_uk/blog/what-your-shitty-music-taste-says-about-you
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on November 21, 2013, 12:46:03 pm
(http://images.contactmusic.com/images/press/the-killers-direct-hits-2013.jpg)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/80/Eagles_greatest_vol_2.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on November 21, 2013, 01:51:51 pm
(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT48ekV85ViMAr8Egcn3c-ch5tsvgHQWrxkdtpowlCLuMx-G01wBA)
(http://reeks.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/badreligion.jpg)

(just saying, having similar things on album covers happens a lot)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on November 21, 2013, 02:18:55 pm
But my post was of compilations by bands that take themselves too seriously, and I'm sure that one of them thinks of themselves as miles above the other.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Brian_Wallace on November 21, 2013, 03:16:56 pm
That would bother  me except you think Motorhead is better than Musicals.   


comedy gold


The comedy is that you like Motorhead.   They have one song that is even mediocre in quality ("Ace of Spades").  Are you trying to tell me you think their music is better than  Rodgers and Hammerstein?  No one could have that bad taste, could they?

Are you baiting me?  We can settle this once and for all.  Three questions:

1.)  Have more people gotten high listening to musicals?  Or Motorhead?
2.)  Have more people had a good time listening to muscials?  Or Motorhead?
3.)  Have more people gotten laid listening to muscials?  Or Motothead?

Q.E.D.

You have horrible taste in music, atomic.  You like Arcade Fire AND musicals?  Jeez.  Have you ever kissed a girl?  Do you enjoy larping and Rush, too?

Brian
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on November 21, 2013, 03:45:50 pm
sorry, brian, that was dumb, what i said.  as dumb as my commas, sometimes.  can you feel your own attraction, around here?  can atomic, as well?  i think hutch exemplifies the true idea, that this place is fun, and certain people make it, that much more fun.  and julian, too . . . good lord, how did i almost forget him. 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: eros on December 05, 2013, 02:12:18 pm
Say what you will about him, at least he's honest.

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/noel-gallaghers-epic-year-end-gripe-session-20131205 (http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/noel-gallaghers-epic-year-end-gripe-session-20131205)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on December 05, 2013, 03:54:07 pm
1.)  Have more people gotten high listening to musicals?  Or Motorhead?
2.)  Have more people had a good time listening to muscials?  Or Motorhead?
3.)  Have more people gotten laid listening to muscials?  Or Motothead?
(http://dramyjohnson.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/idk.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on December 05, 2013, 04:02:44 pm
i need to go cut myself, now
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on December 12, 2013, 04:26:14 pm
Kanye West is the Frank Zappa of his generation.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 12, 2013, 04:29:39 pm
Kanye West is the Frank Zappa of his generation.
bull double shit on that
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on December 12, 2013, 04:45:06 pm
Kanye West is the Frank Zappa of his generation.

Bowie --> Zappa --> Kanye?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 12, 2013, 05:01:59 pm
Pat Boone --> Tiny Tim -->Kanye
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Brian_Wallace on December 12, 2013, 05:09:39 pm

Muhammed Ali + Terence Trent D'Arby + Dennis Rodman = Kanye West.

The deification (and defecation) of Mr. West is due to two things:

1.)  White, liberal guilt.  They like him because a few of his early album titles reference education and hey, education is the most important thing in the world.

2.)  Old-school rock critics (is there another KIND?) who want to turn a marginally talented rapper/producer into an egotistical Axl Rose-type rock star.  Like those two old guys in "Trading Places."

Brian
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Relaxer on December 12, 2013, 05:35:44 pm
In my opinion, Kanye West has made more consistently great pop albums than anyone over the past 15 years. You can criticize his public persona, outburts, marriage, style, whatever, but his music is great. Every one of his albums is good and several of them are great, including his first and his most recent.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Relaxer on December 12, 2013, 05:40:17 pm
And I would also argue that more prevalent than white people trying to justify liking him are white people who shit on his music because he doesn't fit into their myopic version of how a non-uppity negro is supposed to act. You're threatened by his power so you denigrate his art even though you know nothing about it.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomic on December 12, 2013, 05:43:33 pm
And I would also argue that more prevalent than white people trying to justify liking him are white people who shit on his music because he doesn't fit into their myopic version of how a non-uppity negro is supposed to act. You're threatened by his power so you denigrate his art even though you know nothing about it.

I think he sucks balls.  Everytime I hear his music on the radio I think who is that sucks so bad and then it turns out to be Kanye.  Dissing GW on national TV is what makes people like him.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Relaxer on December 12, 2013, 05:45:32 pm
Are there any black musicians that you like or do you just hate them all with equal vehemence?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on December 12, 2013, 05:51:41 pm
Are there any black musicians that you like or do you just hate them all with equal vehemence?

I bet atomic likes the Carolina Chocolate Drops since they dress all old timey and shit.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Brian_Wallace on December 12, 2013, 06:05:17 pm
And I would also argue that more prevalent than white people trying to justify liking him are white people who shit on his music because he doesn't fit into their myopic version of how a non-uppity negro is supposed to act. You're threatened by his power so you denigrate his art even though you know nothing about it.

Ok.  First of all, that power is fading.  Quickly.  Have you seen how many tickets he's sold for his current tour?  Dates were cancelled because of slow ticket sales.  And if he has produced 15 years of "great pop" then why don't you hear any of it on the radio?  Oh, I guess all radio programmers are white and are "black"-listing him?  And far be it from ME to compare him to "classic" rap/soul artists but I have listened to EVERY ONE of his albums and I don't hear ANYTHING approaching Stevie Wonder...Nas....James Brown....Public Enemy....early Wu-Tang...Sly Stone...or whatever white artists you want me to compare him to: Steve Jobs....Ghandi.....Jesus Christ.....John Lennon...Pablo Picasso....

Brian
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Relaxer on December 12, 2013, 06:09:40 pm
His power is not fading,  you only choose to depict as such because of your white racist fear. 'Yeezus' was a major hit, which spawned 'Black Skinhead'. He is playing an overwhelmingly praised tour in arenas, and the cancellations were due to logistics issues, not sales. Among the postponed dates were sold out shows in his hometown of Chicago. But you choose to make up facts to suit your racist ignorant premise. And then you trot out all the traditionally white-loved artists that make up the middle of the road. I'm kind of surprised you didn't say that you actually have black friends and that your father was 1/32 black.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomic on December 12, 2013, 06:24:29 pm
Are there any black musicians that you like or do you just hate them all with equal vehemence?

When have I ever said anything about another black musician? You like Kanye because he is black and he accused the president  of being a racist.  I get it.  I don't see the color of Kanye's music when hearing how badly it sucks. 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomic on December 12, 2013, 06:25:08 pm
His power is not fading,  you only choose to depict as such because of your white racist fear. 'Yeezus' was a major hit, which spawned 'Black Skinhead'. He is playing an overwhelmingly praised tour in arenas, and the cancellations were due to logistics issues, not sales. Among the postponed dates were sold out shows in his hometown of Chicago. But you choose to make up facts to suit your racist ignorant premise. And then you trot out all the traditionally white-loved artists that make up the middle of the road. I'm kind of surprised you didn't say that you actually have black friends and that your father was 1/32 black.

Man Relaxer is racist. 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Brian_Wallace on December 12, 2013, 06:42:31 pm
His power is not fading,  you only choose to depict as such because of your white racist fear. 'Yeezus' was a major hit, which spawned 'Black Skinhead'. He is playing an overwhelmingly praised tour in arenas, and the cancellations were due to logistics issues, not sales. Among the postponed dates were sold out shows in his hometown of Chicago. But you choose to make up facts to suit your racist ignorant premise. And then you trot out all the traditionally white-loved artists that make up the middle of the road. I'm kind of surprised you didn't say that you actually have black friends and that your father was 1/32 black.

"Logisitics issues!??!?!"   ::)  Do you also believe "tired and emotional?"

Whatever.  Time will tell.  The Wu-Tang Clan is "middle of the road?"  And Kanye WHO IMPREGNATED A KARDASHIAN is somehow "edgy" because he released a song called "Black Skinhead" which, you're absolutely right, was ALL OVER RADIO.  Sometime they stopped a Katy Perry song just to play "Black Skinhead" in the middle of it. 

Before I put my hood back on, let me tell you, you're going to look foolish in a couple months.  Limp Bizkit were popular once, too.  But at least they had some tunes.

Brian
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Relaxer on December 12, 2013, 06:49:14 pm
Atomic, you are a very ignorant person who lashes out with insecurity because he knows the kind of man he is. It's pathetic and sad but fortunately you live in the middle of nowhere so civilized progressive people don't have to deal with your ways.

Brian, I don't know how Kanye West in any way threatens your love for Limp Bizkit but I'll leave that to you.  It doesn't really concern me because it's a proven fact that since his debut album, Kanye has been a consistent producer of highly acclaimed, very good music that has sold extremely well. In the pop music arena, there are very few people who have sustained a 10+ year career at the top.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on December 12, 2013, 07:20:35 pm
lot of black people / white people talk on the board today

dupek . . . is jerking off.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomic on December 12, 2013, 07:23:21 pm
I find it funny when someone doesn't like the lamest person alive it is because of race.  Who thinks about race like this..I guess Kanye fans. 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 12, 2013, 09:59:25 pm
'Yeezus' was a major hit 
Yawn...since when does being a major hit actually mean good music

He is playing an overwhelmingly praised tour in arenas,

again yawn...but I'm sure everyone enjoyed it.  I'm really not at all impressed with KW
I've listened to his albums and I just can't get into it

I will say for me, it 100% NOT because he's black (when it comes to music...I almost always bet on black)

The only thing that I have ever found redeeming is that cover that Dia Frampton did on the voice
http://youtu.be/Vh25mvAkN9U

So I might say he's a good song writer, but I've never enjoyed his delivery or presentation

I also think in 20 years, he won't have a legacy like James Brown or David Bowie or Frank Zappa or Lou Reed or Stevie Wonder or Johnny Cash or Public Enemy or Grandmaster Flash or Freddy Mercury and so on and so on


Hey relaxer....relax. IMHO there are far more talented and interesting performers to go to the mat for.  Art is subjective....
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on December 12, 2013, 10:48:41 pm
^did you see what Lou Reed wrote, just weeks before he died, about Kanye's last album ? 

has to, at the very least, give one pause...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on December 12, 2013, 11:00:48 pm
i saw him at the mtv show and he was one row away and he didn't even say hello.  i dont get it.  you know I hate lou, i really do.  he won't even hire us for his videos, and I was so proud of him.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on December 12, 2013, 11:04:45 pm
i saw him at the mtv show and he was one row away and he didn't even say hello.  i dont get it.  you know I hate lou, i really do.  he won't even hire us for his videos, and I was so proud of him.

oh god ... please tell me lou hasn't been added to "walkie's blacklist"...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Brian_Wallace on December 13, 2013, 08:33:26 am
^did you see what Lou Reed wrote, just weeks before he died, about Kanye's last album ? 

has to, at the very least, give one pause...

Hutch, you're an adult, right?  Did your parents divorce when you were young?  I'm totally dumbfounded at why adults worship certain music artists:

"Did you hear what LOU REED said about Kanye West, huh?  HUH?  LOU REED, THE GREATEST ROCK ARTIST EVER!  THE MAN WITH THE MOST INTEGRITY EVER!  THE MAN WHO INVENTED ALTERNATIVE MUSIC!?!?!!  Did you hear what HE said about Kanye West?"

Who gives a shit?  I don't care what Lou Reed thought about anything.  Lou Reed was just another musician.  Just another song writer.  A good one, yes.  Innovative, sure. 

People like you, hutch, who follow musicians like the disciples followed Jesus and venerate their opinions as gospel just...I don't get you.   People do this with Lennon and Dylan and.......

Musicians and the music they produce is fantastic.  Music makes life worth living.  But to put some artist who when they die they get put on the cover of Rolling Stone on a pedestal is foolish for a society to do.  Lou Reed's opinion is not more valid or more intelligent or more introspective than your or my opinion.  It really isn't.  I suggest you wake up.

Brian
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on December 13, 2013, 08:57:15 am
^did you see what Lou Reed wrote, just weeks before he died, about Kanye's last album ? 

has to, at the very least, give one pause...

Hutch, you're an adult, right?  Did your parents divorce when you were young?  I'm totally dumbfounded at why adults worship certain music artists:

"Did you hear what LOU REED said about Kanye West, huh?  HUH?  LOU REED, THE GREATEST ROCK ARTIST EVER!  THE MAN WITH THE MOST INTEGRITY EVER!  THE MAN WHO INVENTED ALTERNATIVE MUSIC!?!?!!  Did you hear what HE said about Kanye West?"

Who gives a shit?  I don't care what Lou Reed thought about anything.  Lou Reed was just another musician.  Just another song writer.  A good one, yes.  Innovative, sure. 

People like you, hutch, who follow musicians like the disciples followed Jesus and venerate their opinions as gospel just...I don't get you.   People do this with Lennon and Dylan and.......

Musicians and the music they produce is fantastic.  Music makes life worth living.  But to put some artist who when they die they get put on the cover of Rolling Stone on a pedestal is foolish for a society to do.  Lou Reed's opinion is not more valid or more intelligent or more introspective than your or my opinion.  It really isn't.  I suggest you wake up.

Brian

uh oh
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on December 13, 2013, 09:10:39 am
'Yeezus' was a major hit, which spawned 'Black Skinhead'.
I'm not getting into this argument in whole but let me just say anecdotally: I listen to pop radio probably more than the average person on here and I have not heard a new Kanye West song on a Top 40 station off the last two records. I could not tell you the chorus to Black Skinhead.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Relaxer on December 13, 2013, 10:09:57 am
I heard it twice last night on tv, in the preview for the new Scorsese movie and for, I think, T-Mobile. But you know, I don't really care about any of this any more.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on December 13, 2013, 10:11:13 am
First of all, and I really have to leave this fascinating conversation to take my kid to storytime, like many people on this thread I don't get Kanye West...I may never even bother to listen to his music again...

but I pay attention to the dentist when he has something to say about teeth and, likewise, I listen to the musician when he has something to say about music.. I may not always agree though...but I at least listen because much as I love my teeth I love music....I'm at least interested... If he's one of the finest songwriters of any generation I may listen a bit harder..I don't consider that "worship" but common sense... and if those happen to be Lou Reed's last published words I may pay even a bit more attention because, you know, he contributed a lot to my life....he gave me great joy... I hope that doesn't make me a bad person or a childish one.. I think its called experience.... you know: live and learn..

What I try not to do is pay attention to what a critic with no actual experience making music, or some random internet poster wants to tell me about what music I should listen to...that's a whole different enchilada..
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomic on December 13, 2013, 11:01:54 am
First of all, and I really have to leave this fascinating conversation to take my kid to storytime, like many people on this thread I don't get Kanye West...I may never even bother to listen to his music again...

but I pay attention to the dentist when he has something to say about teeth and, likewise, I listen to the musician when he has something to say about music.. I may not always agree though...but I at least listen because much as I love my teeth I love music....I'm at least interested... If he's one of the finest songwriters of any generation I may listen a bit harder..I don't consider that "worship" but common sense... and if those happen to be Lou Reed's last published words I may pay even a bit more attention because, you know, he contributed a lot to my life....he gave me great joy... I hope that doesn't make me a bad person or a childish one.. I think its called experience.... you know: live and learn..

What I try not to do is pay attention to what a critic with no actual experience making music, or some random internet poster wants to tell me about what music I should listen to...that's a whole different enchilada..

Lou Reed hadn't done anything worth listening since "Transformer". If he knew so much about music why did he suck for 40 years? 

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: James Ford on December 13, 2013, 11:16:31 am
god knows I'm not a Lou Reed/VU fan, but New York is an album very worth listening to.

I've listened to a couple of Kanye albums, and can say that I'd be happy to never hear him again. The fact that he's a total douche seals the deal.


First of all, and I really have to leave this fascinating conversation to take my kid to storytime, like many people on this thread I don't get Kanye West...I may never even bother to listen to his music again...

but I pay attention to the dentist when he has something to say about teeth and, likewise, I listen to the musician when he has something to say about music.. I may not always agree though...but I at least listen because much as I love my teeth I love music....I'm at least interested... If he's one of the finest songwriters of any generation I may listen a bit harder..I don't consider that "worship" but common sense... and if those happen to be Lou Reed's last published words I may pay even a bit more attention because, you know, he contributed a lot to my life....he gave me great joy... I hope that doesn't make me a bad person or a childish one.. I think its called experience.... you know: live and learn..

What I try not to do is pay attention to what a critic with no actual experience making music, or some random internet poster wants to tell me about what music I should listen to...that's a whole different enchilada..

Lou Reed hadn't done anything worth listening since "Transformer". If he knew so much about music why did he suck for 40 years? 


Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 13, 2013, 12:53:08 pm
In a related story

Small-Town Police Chief to Kanye West: 'Check Yourself, Before You Wreck Yourself' (http://gma.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/small-town-police-chief-kanye-west-39-check-194424302--abc-news-celebrities.html)

"This comes just days after West compared the danger of his work to that of police officers and soldiers in war, telling a radio host he puts his life "literally" on the line each day.

After all, the rapper noted, he could slip on stage."

Can't believe I've got something in common with JF...but yes this man is a Douche
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: stevewizzle on December 13, 2013, 01:42:33 pm
i appreciated Laura Mayberry's article on feminism a month or so go back, but i loved this take by Mish Way. 

http://www.self-titledmag.com/2013/12/13/white-lungs-mish-way-on-message-boards-corrosion-of-conformity-and-hardcore-singer-chris-thomson/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: stevewizzle on December 13, 2013, 07:26:20 pm
RE: The Kanye West discussion.

i feel like kanye is pretty smart about his art.  i hated yeezus, but i've enjoyed past albums, and respect the fact that in 20 years people will look at him as the defining pop artist of the past decade. yeezus was every bit calculated, it's completely different from the rest of his style/discography, similiar to 808&HB.  people will look back, and say "remember that black activist album he made?", and "remember the auto-tune album he did?" just as people look back at pink floyd's the wall, the beatle's helter skelter, lou reed's metal machine music, etc..

like it or hate it, the guy does an incredible job about making people talk about his music, and that's what makes music icons live on.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 17, 2013, 11:59:05 pm
Did anyone else grab the new Death Grips when they leaked it the other day?

i am listening right now . . . and im losing my mind.  am i on acid?  am i on the planet earth?


So I decided to give death grips a try and I have to say Walky was spot on with this review.
not sure I'm in the 'save killsaly' club.  But, I there might be deeper meaning with this recommendation and his quick departure from the board. If your listening, we hear your cries

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on December 22, 2013, 10:10:10 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BcF59KoCEAEPIhr.jpg:large)

Kevin Cummins tweeter feed is fantastic seeing as he took many of the iconic pictures of Joy Division, etc..

https://twitter.com/KCMANC/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on December 22, 2013, 03:09:40 pm
A bit surprised you guys glossed over this. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHo9XHm3tWY)

He makes a few valid points but his being a dick about it gets in the way of them. The ads all over sites like Pitchfork, Stereogogm and BV are probably partially why we have to scroll over so much "OMG lulz Steve Albini called Amanda Palmer an idiot!" nonsense and Lana Del Rae coverage, for instance. That shit gets clicks. He could've picked a much guiltier person to call out, though. Liz Pelly is the one music writer who decided to start an ad-free website this year and based on articles I've read of hers in the past, I doubt any of the advertisers on any of the sites she wrote for had anything to do with what she wrote.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 23, 2013, 12:50:25 am
A bit surprised you guys glossed over this. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHo9XHm3tWY)
wow, reminded me of Albini's 'you could already be this fu@ked'
Worth the view...although he is a little cocky
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: stevewizzle on December 23, 2013, 02:34:35 am
that dude might be on to something if he didn't say fuckin' every fifth word.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on December 23, 2013, 08:31:21 am
I do like a good amount of his other videos. The ones on shoegaze and 4AD especially.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on December 26, 2013, 02:32:22 pm
This will be the 1st generation in history whose parents wished they had louder, more offensive music. (https://twitter.com/MichaelSchein1/status/416227067861012480)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hexenjagd on December 26, 2013, 04:11:53 pm
Vampire Weekend and Arcade Fire? I doubt many young people are listening to either of those. 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on December 26, 2013, 05:37:05 pm
i am enjoying that we have a new person on here, that isnt another form of brian or julian . . . or is it?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hexenjagd on December 26, 2013, 05:55:47 pm
I am neither named Brian nor Julian. How are you doing today? 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 26, 2013, 05:56:09 pm
i am enjoying that we have a new person on here, that isnt another form of brian or julian . . . or is it?
doesn't seem quite so bitter and dickish...so I'd say a genuine new'bie
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on December 26, 2013, 06:01:41 pm
only time will tell.  that last responce . . . was questionable.  you saying he seems legit . . . even more questionable.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 26, 2013, 06:02:43 pm
only time will tell.  that last responce . . . was questionable.  you saying he seems legit . . . even more questionable.
dang...still can't seem to evade the wrath of walky...I'll keep trying
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on December 26, 2013, 06:04:45 pm
You guys would make lousy detectives, but I have inside info.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on December 26, 2013, 06:06:06 pm
only time will tell.  that last responce . . . was questionable.  you saying he seems legit . . . even more questionable.
dang...still can't seem to evade the wrath of walky...I'll keep trying


(http://awesomegifs.com/wp-content/uploads/cat-high-five.gif)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on December 26, 2013, 06:08:01 pm
You guys would make lousy detectives, but I have inside info.

you just made my nipples, hard

i vote . . . the return of jags
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hexenjagd on December 26, 2013, 06:31:24 pm
Yes.  kosmo knows who I am. 

1. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/witch-hunt
An investigation carried out ostensibly to uncover subversive activities but actually used to harass and undermine those with differing views.

(Government, Politics & Diplomacy) a rigorous campaign to round up or expose dissenters on the pretext of safeguarding the welfare of the public

2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witch-hunt
A witch-hunt is a search for witches or evidence of witchcraft, often involving moral panic,[1] or mass hysteria.[2] Before 1750 it was legally sanctioned and involving official witchcraft trials.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on December 26, 2013, 10:33:26 pm
I caught this earlier today!
I think Tom Scharpling retweeted it.

This will be the 1st generation in history whose parents wished they had louder, more offensive music. (https://twitter.com/MichaelSchein1/status/416227067861012480)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on December 26, 2013, 10:34:56 pm
Samesies.

You guys would make lousy detectives, but I have inside info.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on December 27, 2013, 01:33:11 am
I caught this earlier today!
I think Tom Scharpling retweeted it.

This will be the 1st generation in history whose parents wished they had louder, more offensive music. (https://twitter.com/MichaelSchein1/status/416227067861012480)

I had caught Kim Gordon's retweet. Michael Schein (@MichaelSchein1), a little known digital PR dude that Gordon does not follow, had tweeted it in reply to someone else.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on December 27, 2013, 08:47:54 am
I caught this earlier today!
I think Tom Scharpling retweeted it.

This will be the 1st generation in history whose parents wished they had louder, more offensive music. (https://twitter.com/MichaelSchein1/status/416227067861012480)

I had caught Kim Gordon's retweet. Michael Schein (@MichaelSchein1), a little known digital PR dude that Gordon does not follow, had tweeted it in reply to someone else.

clearly these people don't follow Wall Of Beard (http://wallofbeard.com/) because dubstep is pretty loud and just offensive.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on December 27, 2013, 10:55:35 am
i think i accidentally Hexenjagd in another thread, but just changed that... didn't realize you were trying to stay anonymous.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on December 27, 2013, 11:21:54 am
Cat's pretty much out of the bag now anyway.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 27, 2013, 12:03:37 pm
Cat's pretty much out of the bag now anyway.

(http://veronicagraham.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/catbag.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on December 27, 2013, 12:11:20 pm
Man Stabbed Over Jukebox Argument (http://www.wusa9.com/news/article/287408/158/Man-stabbed-over-jukebox-argument)

ANNAPOLIS, Md. (WUSA9) -- Police say a man was stabbed after an argument over music playing on a jukebox at a Maryland restaurant.

It happened in the 1300 block of Forest Drive in Annapolis at 12:45 a.m., when police say the adult male victim and Martin Marroquin Rodriguez got in an agreement over the jukebox.

When the victim was walking home he was approached by Rodriguez, who gave him a hug, police say. While hugging the victim, Rodriguez stabbed him in the stomach.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on December 27, 2013, 12:18:18 pm
i enjoy . . . staying in the dark about the new person.  we need new people; lots and lots of new people.  cats, too.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on December 27, 2013, 12:25:26 pm
oh . . . i get it now.  heres to me getting it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kebl0KfR8Ps

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUXGQdVGkjE
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hexenjagd on December 27, 2013, 12:31:44 pm
The Polyphonic Spree - You Don't Know Me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGiEL_BGToo
Quote
It's time to jump in
It's time to let go

Don't let the people think they know you
They don't know

You move around, you say goodbye to them
There's always more to you than there are of them

Keep yourself high
Don't keep yourself low
It's easy to forget what you came here for when you get old

There's always someone there to bring you down again
There's always more to you than there are of them

Hey, hey, you don't know me
Hey, hey, you don't know me
Hey, hey, you don't know me
Hey, hey, you don't know me

I know you will hide
When I'm around

Hey, hey, you don't know me
Hey, hey, you don't know me

There's always someone there to bring you down again
There's always more to you than there are of them

I know you will hide
When I'm around

I know you will hide
When I'm around

Watch them follow you all around
watch them follow you all around
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on January 11, 2014, 09:41:44 pm
Cedella Marley on the Musical ?Three Little Birds? and Bob Marley?s Legacy (http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2014/01/09/cedella-marley-on-three-little-birds-and-bob-marleys-legacy/)

With marijuana now legal in Colorado, would your family somehow get involved commercially?

We?re looking to see how the marijuana stocks are going. It depends. We love farming so if we could have a farm where that?s what we grow, legally, then we might consider a farm. I am watching it. The lines, how the demand has grown so much they?re having to ration it. You have a smile on your face and you still hope people are using it for the right reasons. I just think when you?re growing marijuana, it?s supposed to be a healing herb. You have to do it in the right way. You don?t want all the chemicals, you want to do it as organically as possible. I think to have it grown by Marley farms, anywhere where it?s legal to do that, it?s something that definitely we would be looking into. It?s not so much opening a shop. I?m more concerned with what the people would be consuming. I see the blogs now and then and I know everything isn?t being grown as organically as possible. It?s like you?re getting something that?s healing that?s coated with chemicals. Are you getting the benefits or getting worse?


Maybe this should go in the Onion thread....
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 12, 2014, 12:33:53 am
they have this Marley brand coffee and it's $25 a bag.   
I've always thought that was insane, but maybe there is another reason for the added cost?
(http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0274/1509/products/BlueMountain600x600_large_large.jpeg%3Fv%3D1380910993)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomic on January 12, 2014, 11:53:27 pm
i think i accidentally Hexenjagd in another thread, but just changed that... didn't realize you were trying to stay anonymous.

Why did Killsally change his name?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on January 13, 2014, 12:00:26 am
i think i accidentally Hexenjagd in another thread, but just changed that... didn't realize you were trying to stay anonymous.

Why did Killsally change his name?
I made fun of professional wrestling and called its fans juvenile and he refuted my argument by deleting his account claiming the place had disintegrated into Junior High and then came back a few days later. 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomic on January 13, 2014, 12:02:34 am
i think i accidentally Hexenjagd in another thread, but just changed that... didn't realize you were trying to stay anonymous.

Why did Killsally change his name?
I made fun of professional wrestling and called its fans juvenile and he refuted my argument by deleting his account claiming the place had disintegrated into Junior High and then came back a few days later. 

I don't like the new name it sounds like some Norweigan Death Metal band name or something.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on January 13, 2014, 12:05:02 am
Hexen was a weird occult Doom knockoff circa 1996. Idk how I know that honestly.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hexenjagd on January 13, 2014, 02:04:57 am
Yes, you made a comment about wrestling fans.

No, that wasn't the reason I quit this place. 

I quit because I was slowly phasing forums out of my life, one at at time, over the last few years (at one point I posted on seven different music forums).  Mainly this was due to the fact that I can just get everything I need in regards to music and socializing online, on Facebook (I am easy to find on there if anyone wants to send a friend request).  This is the same reason I don't use MySpace anymore, or chat rooms, or buy music magazines. 

It was done after you made your comment, but that was not the reason.  Do you really think I would quit this site that I was a part of for over six years because of some comment you made?

The reason I am back is because I like a lot of the people here and realized it is the easiest way to communicate with them. 

As for the name, it is just another name I use for a music project of mine, and for the mixes I make for my label/blog, Dragged to Hell. 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on January 13, 2014, 10:47:23 am
(http://getlol.info/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/cat-wrestling-600x420.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomic on January 13, 2014, 11:02:25 am
Yes, you made a comment about wrestling fans.

No, that wasn't the reason I quit this place. 

I quit because I was slowly phasing forums out of my life, one at at time, over the last few years (at one point I posted on seven different music forums).  Mainly this was due to the fact that I can just get everything I need in regards to music and socializing online, on Facebook (I am easy to find on there if anyone wants to send a friend request).  This is the same reason I don't use MySpace anymore, or chat rooms, or buy music magazines. 

It was done after you made your comment, but that was not the reason.  Do you really think I would quit this site that I was a part of for over six years because of some comment you made?

The reason I am back is because I like a lot of the people here and realized it is the easiest way to communicate with them. 

As for the name, it is just another name I use for a music project of mine, and for the mixes I make for my label/blog, Dragged to Hell. 

First, Facebook is dying.  And second everyone tries to be pleasant to each other on Facebook.  Third, you have to wade through mindless sports posts, baby photos, and people's daily mundane live posts.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hexenjagd on January 13, 2014, 12:11:14 pm
I mostly follow posts from a few close friends and use the site to keep up with bands.  When something better comes along, I will change it. 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on January 13, 2014, 05:38:48 pm
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/13/business/media/dance-band-experiments-with-three-way-stereo.html?_r=0

i think i notice the difference . . . that the song sucks in a totally new way.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hexenjagd on January 15, 2014, 01:20:38 pm
http://www.attackmagazine.com/news/roland-reissue-tb-303-tr-808/

I guess I need to start saving my money!
(http://www.funnypictureblog.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/picture_small/fry-take-my-money.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on January 15, 2014, 01:30:42 pm
http://www.attackmagazine.com/news/roland-reissue-tb-303-tr-808/

I guess I need to start saving my money!

this looks like a money-grab to me.  i fear it's going to be digital (so none of the analog quirkiness that made the 303 and 808 famous) and based on samples (which you can get elsewhere).  the interface might be a change-up from what you currently use but seems to me you can do better with a customizable interface with assignable pads, sliders, etc - rather than being locked into the layout of this device which will have limited functionality.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on January 16, 2014, 05:09:14 pm
Was anybody as excited when Eddie fronted DKs?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: slappy on January 17, 2014, 01:06:19 pm
http://www.attackmagazine.com/news/roland-reissue-tb-303-tr-808/

I guess I need to start saving my money!

this looks like a money-grab to me.  i fear it's going to be digital (so none of the analog quirkiness that made the 303 and 808 famous) and based on samples (which you can get elsewhere).  the interface might be a change-up from what you currently use but seems to me you can do better with a customizable interface with assignable pads, sliders, etc - rather than being locked into the layout of this device which will have limited functionality.

Sounds like it's digital. If price and quality is as rumored, it'll do well.
http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2014/01/16/roland-aira-tr-08-rumor-leak-update-not-analog-but-great-fun/#more-54288 (http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2014/01/16/roland-aira-tr-08-rumor-leak-update-not-analog-but-great-fun/#more-54288)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hexenjagd on January 17, 2014, 02:56:10 pm
I plan on trying before I buy... But this definitely would be a nice addition to my setup (i am running a NI Maschine into a laptop for drums, hard synths for bass/some leads, and guitars and pedals)... It would be nice to cut the tether to the laptop... (I use a lot of 808 samples in my beats). 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on January 29, 2014, 10:14:30 pm
Is there a pop musician with more success and less impact on culture than Billy Joel?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on January 29, 2014, 10:41:13 pm
Is there a pop musician with more success and less impact on culture than Billy Joel?
Off the top of my head, Eagles and ABBA.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on January 29, 2014, 11:15:08 pm
Is there a pop musician with more success and less impact on culture than Billy Joel?
Off the top of my head, Eagles and ABBA.

Barry Manilow has to take this...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on January 29, 2014, 11:45:49 pm
Celine Dion?  Or does keeping Cory Hart employed count...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Brian_Wallace on January 30, 2014, 09:11:36 am
Is there a pop musician with more success and less impact on culture than Billy Joel?

What do you mean by "impact on culture?"  God, that's such a Generation whatever, navel-gazing phrase.  In no way am I defending Billy Joel, but what a snooty, elitist comment.  Do YOU even know what you're asking?

I assume someone like Bowie or Lou Reed, in your opinion, has had a huge "impact on culture?"  Really?  Maybe for the 0.00001% of culture who actually play an instrument and/or are in a band. 

Are you talking about the culture of clothing?  Yes, "rock stars" with destinctive styles of dress can cause young fans to dress like them.  I'm thinking Madonna when she started out.  But did people ever really dress like Springsteen or Mick Jagger?

I would say Billy Joel has a huge impact on culture simply due to the fact that for 10 solid years, every woman entering college was issued "Billy Joel's Greatest Hits Vol. 1 and 2" along with some tampons.

"Impact on culture."  That's just what this generation does.  Wonders about "impacts on culture."

I guarantee you more young men and women "connected" over "She's Got a Way" or "Big Shot" than "Sweet Jane" or "Five Years."

Brian
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 30, 2014, 09:52:34 am
I guarantee you more young men and women "connected" over "She's Got a Way" or "Big Shot" than "Sweet Jane" or "Five Years."
Yeah but...only the hot chicks listened to the latter. 
I usually steered clear of anyone who had Dave Matthews or Hootie and the Blowfish in their cd collection.  Usually said a lot about the person. (did seem the easy ones always had Dave Matthews)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: James Ford on January 30, 2014, 10:04:26 am
I can't wait for Brian's reply.

I guarantee you more young men and women "connected" over "She's Got a Way" or "Big Shot" than "Sweet Jane" or "Five Years."
Yeah but...only the hot chicks listened to the latter. 
I usually steered clear of anyone who had Dave Matthews or Hootie and the Blowfish in their cd collection.  Usually said a lot about the person. (did seem the easy ones always had Dave Matthews)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomic on January 30, 2014, 10:43:31 am
Is there a pop musician with more success and less impact on culture than Billy Joel?
Off the top of my head, Eagles and ABBA.

Really have you ever dated a woman or a gay man?  They love ABBA.  Shit I love ABBA.   Of course, I ,like normal people, like Billy Joel, too.   Glass Houses and the Stranger are masterpieces.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomic on January 30, 2014, 10:45:55 am
Is there a pop musician with more success and less impact on culture than Billy Joel?

What do you mean by "impact on culture?"  God, that's such a Generation whatever, navel-gazing phrase.  In no way am I defending Billy Joel, but what a snooty, elitist comment.  Do YOU even know what you're asking?

I assume someone like Bowie or Lou Reed, in your opinion, has had a huge "impact on culture?"  Really?  Maybe for the 0.00001% of culture who actually play an instrument and/or are in a band. 

Are you talking about the culture of clothing?  Yes, "rock stars" with destinctive styles of dress can cause young fans to dress like them.  I'm thinking Madonna when she started out.  But did people ever really dress like Springsteen or Mick Jagger?

I would say Billy Joel has a huge impact on culture simply due to the fact that for 10 solid years, every woman entering college was issued "Billy Joel's Greatest Hits Vol. 1 and 2" along with some tampons.

"Impact on culture."  That's just what this generation does.  Wonders about "impacts on culture."

I guarantee you more young men and women "connected" over "She's Got a Way" or "Big Shot" than "Sweet Jane" or "Five Years."

Brian

"Sweet Jane" is awful.  That is basically sucky Lou Reed solo.  No Velvet Undeground on that song.  No one has gotten most out of a career from one album that he was just one member of a band than Lou Reed.  First Velvet's album one of the best albums of all time.  "Stepahanie Says" great song.  "After Hours" decent song.  Rest of Velvet catalog "shit".
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on January 30, 2014, 11:06:31 am
Really have you ever dated a woman or a gay man?  They love ABBA.  Shit I love ABBA.   Of course, I ,like normal people, like Billy Joel, too.   Glass Houses and the Stranger are masterpieces.
There's a difference between people owning the CD (which a lot of people do with regard to The Eagles) and having an effect on the culture (which as Brian mentions is a nebulous at best concept).

How do you think The Eagles "affected our culture"?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: James Ford on January 30, 2014, 11:15:19 am
They were the inspiration for 95% of what is today called "country" music. Hence, serving as an inspiration for moving country music from its distinct Southern hillbilly roots and fan base to a light rock-Chevy truck commercial sound and geographically and socioeconomically indistinct fan base.

Really have you ever dated a woman or a gay man?  They love ABBA.  Shit I love ABBA.   Of course, I ,like normal people, like Billy Joel, too.   Glass Houses and the Stranger are masterpieces.
There's a difference between people owning the CD (which a lot of people do with regard to The Eagles) and having an effect on the culture (which as Brian mentions is a nebulous at best concept).

How do you think The Eagles "affected our culture"?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomic on January 30, 2014, 11:17:23 am
Really have you ever dated a woman or a gay man?  They love ABBA.  Shit I love ABBA.   Of course, I ,like normal people, like Billy Joel, too.   Glass Houses and the Stranger are masterpieces.
There's a difference between people owning the CD (which a lot of people do with regard to The Eagles) and having an effect on the culture (which as Brian mentions is a nebulous at best concept).

How do you think The Eagles "affected our culture"?

 I really don't know that much about the Eagles but ABBA made our world a happier place.  What has any band done to affect our culture.   What did Radiohead do for our culture?  Make us more accepting of really ugly people?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on January 30, 2014, 11:20:27 am
They were the inspiration for 95% of what is today called "country" music. Hence, serving as an inspiration for moving country music from its distinct Southern hillbilly roots and fan base to a light rock-Chevy truck commercial sound and geographically and socioeconomically indistinct fan base.



Ummm... lots of big words but no...

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on January 30, 2014, 11:23:12 am
They were the inspiration for 95% of what is today called "country" music. Hence, serving as an inspiration for moving country music from its distinct Southern hillbilly roots and fan base to a light rock-Chevy truck commercial sound and geographically and socioeconomically indistinct fan base.

Country music moved away from its distinct hillbilly roots and fan base solely because of the self-generated forward momentum of one Miss Taylor Swift, a ruthlessly efficient media mogul who has clawed her way to the top of a crumbling music industry infrastructure.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: James Ford on January 30, 2014, 11:28:32 am
Vince Gill was  quoted as saying the Eagles have influenced more people than Ernest Tubb, and therefore should join him in Country Music's Hall of Fame.
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What is different, though, is country music. There?s been a lot of cross-pollination between rock and pop and country, and ?country music is now akin to what my generation was listening to in the ?60s and ?70s,? Henley said.

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When the Eagles debuted in the mid-'70s, their brand of lighthearted crossover country was more crossover than country, getting play on stations like New York's WHN but alienating plenty of down-home traditionalists. These days, though, updated sonics are the only thing separating early hits like "Take It Easy" from your average country playlist; the song's suggestion that you "lighten up while you still can" still resonates with a generation of Kenny Chesneys and Zac Browns.


They were the inspiration for 95% of what is today called "country" music. Hence, serving as an inspiration for moving country music from its distinct Southern hillbilly roots and fan base to a light rock-Chevy truck commercial sound and geographically and socioeconomically indistinct fan base.



Ummm... lots of big words but no...


Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on January 30, 2014, 11:29:52 am

Vince Gill was  quoted as saying the Eagles have influenced more people than Ernest Tubb, and therefore should join him in Country Music's Hall of Fame.
More than ERNEST TUBB? I revoke my argument. Jesus Christ, how could I have been so wrong.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: ggw on January 30, 2014, 11:30:17 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_kCR5yQpY0



Really have you ever dated a woman or a gay man?  They love ABBA.  Shit I love ABBA.   Of course, I ,like normal people, like Billy Joel, too.   Glass Houses and the Stranger are masterpieces.
There's a difference between people owning the CD (which a lot of people do with regard to The Eagles) and having an effect on the culture (which as Brian mentions is a nebulous at best concept).

How do you think The Eagles "affected our culture"?
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Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on January 30, 2014, 11:30:47 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_kCR5yQpY0

Nice.
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Post by: ggw on January 30, 2014, 11:31:35 am
Tubb was no good after he split with Crockett.


Vince Gill was  quoted as saying the Eagles have influenced more people than Ernest Tubb, and therefore should join him in Country Music's Hall of Fame.
More than ERNEST TUBB? I revoke my argument. Jesus Christ, how could I have been so wrong.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomic on January 30, 2014, 11:34:07 am
I am listening to "ABBA - The Essential Collection" right now and I am thinking you guys would be less uptight if you would listen to ABBA instead of that boring,dull music you usually listen to all the time.  Queens of the Stonge Age is not for fun people.  
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Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 30, 2014, 11:59:51 am
  Shit I love ABBA.    

Dang...don't like when we overlap on taste
usually it's easy as you have such horrible taste in just about everything

damn you ABBA for trying to bring the world together in harmony!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomic on January 30, 2014, 12:04:57 pm
I think each day we should pick a classic album and we can all listen to it together.  I will start today's selection of Billy Joel's "The Stranger". 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on January 30, 2014, 12:19:25 pm
I will start today's selection of Billy Joel's "The Stranger". 
That's a fantastic record.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 30, 2014, 12:23:44 pm
Country music moved away from its distinct hillbilly roots and fan base solely because of the self-generated forward momentum of one Miss Taylor Swift, a ruthlessly efficient media mogul who has clawed her way to the top of a crumbling music industry infrastructure.
TS gets a whoopin (http://youtu.be/m4luHEVjqKA)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 30, 2014, 12:28:46 pm
I will start today's selection of Billy Joel's "The Stranger". 
That's a fantastic record.

I assume you're listening to the 30th Anniversary Deluxe Limited Edition
The limited deluxe edition inclueds a CD of a previously unreleased concert featuring Billy and his band, Live At Carnegie Hall 1977, recorded at the historic Manhattan venue on June 3, 1977, one month before the sessions for The Stranger album


it is pretty classic.  Truth be told I'm from Long Island, so it's in my blood.  Just it does sound a little dated, only because I've heard it from start to finish 1 million times
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Brian_Wallace on January 30, 2014, 12:30:03 pm
I think each day we should pick a classic album and we can all listen to it together.  I will start today's selection of Billy Joel's "The Stranger". 

I enjoy the dichotomy of having a "Woman...you're just amazing...without the make-up and the bj's....I truly love YOU" song ("Just the Way You Are", 1978's Record AND Song of the Year) AND a "You know....women are unpredictable, moody bitches most of the time...but you still let a mug like me have sex with you so I guess, you're sort of cool" song ("She's Always a Woman") on the SAME album.  Usually there's a gap of a couple of albums and a couple of bitter divorces between those two.

Brian

P.S.  I think most young hipsters hate the Eagles simply becuase of "The Big Lebowski".   A LOT of college educated men of a certain age view themselves as quasi-Lebowskis and therefore adopt every opinion he has.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on January 30, 2014, 12:30:58 pm
I will start today's selection of Billy Joel's "The Stranger". 
That's a fantastic record.

I assume you're listening to the 30th Anniversary Deluxe Limited Edition
The limited deluxe edition inclueds a CD of a previously unreleased concert featuring Billy and his band, Live At Carnegie Hall 1977, recorded at the historic Manhattan venue on June 3, 1977, one month before the sessions for The Stranger album


it is pretty classic.  Truth be told I'm from Long Island, so it's in my blood.  Just it does sound a little dated, only because I've heard it from start to finish 1 million times
No, I just have the regular version. Not a big enough Billy Joel fan to go buy another copy. Scenes From An Italian Restaurant is a great composition.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on January 30, 2014, 12:32:46 pm
P.S.  I think most young hipsters hate the Eagles simply becuase of "The Big Lebowski".   A LOT of college educated men of a certain age view themselves as quasi-Lebowskis and therefore adopt every opinion he has.
That's probably my vote for "Most overrated movie of all time that doesn't have the words 'Star' and 'Wars' in the title." I like the Coen brothers but I never got why people were so hyped over this film. Its extremely "meh."
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on January 30, 2014, 12:45:27 pm
one word . . . pot.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: bearman🐻 on January 30, 2014, 01:24:02 pm
http://www.rhcp2014.com/

Parody of a new RHCP song. Since so many of us boardies love them. Very funny.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on January 30, 2014, 01:26:00 pm
you haven't lived til you've heard the Stranger LP on the highly limited RL cut (Robert Ludwig)...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hexenjagd on January 30, 2014, 01:26:52 pm
http://www.rhcp2014.com/

Parody of a new RHCP song. Since so many of us boardies love them. Very funny.
also a good nine inch nails one...
http://dangerousminds.net/comments/this_is_a_trent_reznor_song_nine_inch_nails_by-the-numbers_parody_is_absolu
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: James Ford on January 30, 2014, 02:08:30 pm
How many of you BJ fans are also fans of his band Atilla?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLuiVJBZyVM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swiI32BcNUU
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomic on January 30, 2014, 02:43:34 pm
How many of you BJ fans are also fans of his band Atilla?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLuiVJBZyVM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swiI32BcNUU

I think everyone on here is a "BJ fan".  We're all dudes, after all.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on January 30, 2014, 04:55:53 pm
(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2014/01/29/0129-daft-punk-pcn-getty-3.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hexenjagd on January 30, 2014, 04:59:13 pm
Yes daft punk are not really robots.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: ggw on January 30, 2014, 05:04:27 pm
(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2014/01/29/0129-daft-punk-pcn-getty-3.jpg)

(http://don.greymafia.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/JFbNUk41.gif)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: bearman🐻 on January 30, 2014, 05:05:30 pm
Cool Husker Du shirt...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Brian_Wallace on January 30, 2014, 05:14:38 pm
(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2014/01/29/0129-daft-punk-pcn-getty-3.jpg)

Dammit.  My guesses were either Simon and Garfunkel or the dudes from Air.

Brian

P.S.  Well, who's the Stig, then?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: ggw on January 30, 2014, 05:16:41 pm
P.S.  Well, who's the Stig, then?

Well it's clearly not Schumacher...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomic on January 30, 2014, 05:39:59 pm
I like to go to musical festivals and tell chicks I am in Daft Punk.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: slappy on January 30, 2014, 07:16:29 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/YgIIT4a.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on January 30, 2014, 08:04:25 pm
slappy, wins
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Unsanity on January 31, 2014, 01:57:11 am
I love that Attila record! I own an original copy of it that I grabbed from the DC record fair when it was at the Artisphere. Its so heavy and psychedelic and not the radio crap he is known for! According to amg, Billy himself has stated that Atilla was "psychedelic bullshit" and hates that record wit a passion. Amg also stated it is the worst record of all time! I also have records from Billy's first big band, The Hassles. Jay Leno was a noted fan of them haha.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: K8teebug on January 31, 2014, 01:42:49 pm
they don't look that much different than the dudes from Air.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Relaxer on January 31, 2014, 01:49:35 pm
French people all look the same to me, but I'm also a sexist.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hexenjagd on January 31, 2014, 06:15:41 pm
Quote
Dear sweet everyone,

I switched this page from Chelsea Light Moving to Thurston Joseph Michael Moore. The next record to be released under my own name will be titled "Detonation" (Matador, June 1st 2014). Most of the music on it will be unreleased tracks recorded by myself with John Moloney, Samara Lubelski and Keith Wood - who recorded and toured with me under the name Chelsea Light Moving but i've decided to just use my real name from now on for records and gigs regardless of who will be playing with me, or at least for the time being(!). The last few years had me going strong with John, Samara and Keith, friends/musicians/confidantes whom i ADORE, but I feel the need to change the live thing up a bit. Right now i'm playing under my own name with guitarist extraordinaire James Sedwards - we have a few gigs coming up. All future info will be updated on https://www.facebook.com/ThurstonMooreOfficial
So was the half full Ottobar show indicative of the rest of the Chelsea Light Moving (I personally loved the album and their set) tour? So the next CLM record is... Actually a Thurston solo record, but just with the same players.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on February 02, 2014, 08:48:39 am
http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/214271/canadian-band-skinny-puppy-invoices-u-s-government-after-learning-their-music-was-used-to-torture-guantanamo-detainees/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: James Ford on February 02, 2014, 01:22:59 pm
Guess they should have used an AMERICUN band, like Ministry.

But really, whatever happened to good old methods of torture like ripping out peoples fingernails? Playing loud music is torture? Puh-leaze.
http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/214271/canadian-band-skinny-puppy-invoices-u-s-government-after-learning-their-music-was-used-to-torture-guantanamo-detainees/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hexenjagd on February 02, 2014, 02:39:30 pm
It is a placeholder for when I post something but change my mind and delete my post.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on February 02, 2014, 03:08:46 pm
what does

.

mean

as a singular

response, post?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hexenjagd on February 02, 2014, 03:10:06 pm
Better? I had a response, but it was not really relevant to music talk.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on February 02, 2014, 03:14:03 pm
how, neat
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hexenjagd on February 02, 2014, 03:15:32 pm
I, for one, do not think, my opinions, on everything, need to clutter, non-relevant, threads.  I would have changed my "." to something else after I thought of something better to post.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on February 03, 2014, 05:31:53 pm
Priests interview! Priests interview! Priests interview! Priests interview! (http://www.tinymixtapes.com/features/priests)

But they are a quartet, not a trio.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomic on February 03, 2014, 05:34:48 pm
http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/214271/canadian-band-skinny-puppy-invoices-u-s-government-after-learning-their-music-was-used-to-torture-guantanamo-detainees/

I thought the Skinny Puppy guy was dead.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hexenjagd on February 03, 2014, 05:40:00 pm
Priests interview! Priests interview! Priests interview! Priests interview! (http://www.tinymixtapes.com/features/priests)

But they are a quartet, not a trio.

This says quartet.

Quote
D.C. quartet Priests are omnivorous consumers of ideas; you can practically feel them exploding from their short songs
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on February 03, 2014, 05:44:13 pm
Guess they edited it.

It said "trio" earlier.

https://twitter.com/ahmadmzaghal/status/430379939649839104
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Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 03, 2014, 05:49:47 pm
Guess they edited it.

It said "trio" earlier.

https://twitter.com/ahmadmzaghal/status/430379939649839104
I like that your avatar is an ostrich. Wait, you do know its an ostrich, right?
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Post by: azaghal1981 on February 03, 2014, 05:50:14 pm
yes
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on February 03, 2014, 05:54:03 pm
you didnt like the halftime show?  not a fan of whats his name, but he did well.  chili poopers, well thats another story.

and dont you find twitter, to be, gay?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on February 03, 2014, 05:58:58 pm
Oh boy.


I didn't think my tweets would be dissected.

What I heard of the halftime thing (not much of it) sounded like a jumbled mess.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on February 03, 2014, 06:08:16 pm
im going to read your twitter now everyday, and give my opinion.  oh, yeah.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on February 03, 2014, 06:13:23 pm
Enjoy.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on February 03, 2014, 06:15:27 pm
i bet, you are, a fascinating man.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomic on February 03, 2014, 06:20:19 pm
Oh boy.


I didn't think my tweets would be dissected.

What I heard of the halftime thing (not much of it) sounded like a jumbled mess.


Bruno Mars is a very small man. 
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Post by: stevewizzle on February 03, 2014, 06:32:25 pm
Guess they edited it.

It said "trio" earlier.

https://twitter.com/ahmadmzaghal/status/430379939649839104
I like that your avatar is an ostrich. Wait, you do know its an ostrich, right?

 i lol'd
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on February 03, 2014, 06:34:22 pm
Wow this exists. (http://current931.bandcamp.com/music)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on February 03, 2014, 10:56:17 pm
(http://newnownext.mtvnimages.com/2014/02/lady-gaga-littlemonsters.png)
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Post by: i am gay and i like cats on February 04, 2014, 09:13:23 pm
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/red-hot-chili-peppers-flea-explains-his-miming-at-the-super-bowl-20140204
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on February 04, 2014, 09:18:13 pm
azag . . . people should feel sad by aspca emails.  that way, they might go and beat the fuck out of people who do shit like having a dog, and keep it in a small ass cage in the back yard, with no life, and even during the most cold it gets outside, they dont bring them inside.  i see this all the time in the country, and i turn away, pretending that im not seeing it.  i wish i had the balls to beat the shit out of people like that.
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Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 05, 2014, 09:52:05 pm
This is a bit crazy  Marvin Gaye's passport was found in a album that was bought for 50 cents.

http://permanentrecordproject.blogspot.com/2014/02/the-passport-you-see-above-belonged-to.html
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Unsanity on February 05, 2014, 11:59:00 pm
I always find weird stuff in old LPs. Never anything valuable though. Weed seeds and stems, Porn DVDs, divorce papers, newspaper clippings. The two most interesting items were a creepy black and white photo of a very old woman inside of Black Sabbath's Vol. 4 and possible homosexual love letter (can't remember what record that was in though)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on February 06, 2014, 01:20:09 am
Hahahahaha it took me a second to figure out the context of this. I completely agree with you. I just offered a solution to her dilemma.
P.S. This is not musicological. If you want to start a tweet dissection thread, I will be more than happy to address your questions/comments/concerns there.


azag . . . people should feel sad by aspca emails.  that way, they might go and beat the fuck out of people who do shit like having a dog, and keep it in a small ass cage in the back yard, with no life, and even during the most cold it gets outside, they dont bring them inside.  i see this all the time in the country, and i turn away, pretending that im not seeing it.  i wish i had the balls to beat the shit out of people like that.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: James Ford on February 06, 2014, 09:32:26 am
probably ZZ Top

I always find weird stuff in old LPs. Never anything valuable though. Weed seeds and stems, Porn DVDs, divorce papers, newspaper clippings. The two most interesting items were a creepy black and white photo of a very old woman inside of Black Sabbath's Vol. 4 and possible homosexual love letter (can't remember what record that was in though)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: bearman🐻 on February 06, 2014, 09:38:13 am
I always find weird stuff in old LPs. Never anything valuable though. Weed seeds and stems, Porn DVDs, divorce papers, newspaper clippings. The two most interesting items were a creepy black and white photo of a very old woman inside of Black Sabbath's Vol. 4 and possible homosexual love letter (can't remember what record that was in though)

If I was expecting to find a homosexual love letter in an LP, I'd guess it was probably Bette Midler, Yaz, the Smiths, or the Rollins Band. Something like Torch Song Trilogy or Hedwig would be too obvious. I think those automatically come with gay love letters.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: James Ford on February 06, 2014, 10:11:16 am
I still say ZZ Top. Gayest band name ever.

I always find weird stuff in old LPs. Never anything valuable though. Weed seeds and stems, Porn DVDs, divorce papers, newspaper clippings. The two most interesting items were a creepy black and white photo of a very old woman inside of Black Sabbath's Vol. 4 and possible homosexual love letter (can't remember what record that was in though)

If I was expecting to find a homosexual love letter in an LP, I'd guess it was probably Bette Midler, Yaz, the Smiths, or the Rollins Band. Something like Torch Song Trilogy or Hedwig would be too obvious. I think those automatically come with gay love letters.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 06, 2014, 10:18:23 am
I still say ZZ Top. Gayest band name ever.
Not to mention they take the concept of a mustache ride to absolute extremes. Good call, Rhett.
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Post by: Hexenjagd on February 06, 2014, 02:36:46 pm
So I was asked by a traveling hip hop MC (who I kind of know) if I knew any good local hip-hop for Baltimore, to add to a show at Club K next week.  I told him "sure" and sent a list of people that I like.  Height, Mighty Mark, Mickey Free, Sam from Future Islands, Glittoris aka Sara of Wing Dam/Which Magic...

He then proceeded to contact Mighty Mark, and book him.  Without listening to his music.  I get a message a bit later saying "oh no. Big Booby Bitch is one of his songs?"  To which i reply "yeah, he is a Bmore Club dude, most of his music will be like that."

To which he replied "We'll survive it. Just have to suspend our feminism for a night."

Anyways this is directed to him but I am not saying it to his face, since I kind of know him:

1.  You didn't listen before you booked him?  That is on you, because you asked me who I LIKED.  No caveats about what type of hip-hop it could be.

2.  Feminists?  I am not a fan of guys who label themselves that.  You are NOT a feminist.  You are a dude who is empathetic to the struggles of females.  ALL males should be this way without trying to label themselves.   SMH

3.  The addition of MM playing (and also Ricky Ray) means that people MIGHT ACTUALLY SHOW UP.  if they werent booked, the show would draw... Maybe 5 people.

Anyways, I thought the whole situation was humorous and thought I would share... (the feminist stuff should be taken with a grain of salt, i really don't care what people label themselves, just thought it was a bit silly)
A nice write up on male feminists:
http://monkeysgonetoheaven.wordpress.com/2013/09/09/is-the-male-feminist-nothing-but-an-oxymoron/
(http://monkeysgonetoheaven.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/fems_large.jpeg)
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Post by: azaghal1981 on February 06, 2014, 04:27:14 pm
Agree with 1 and 3 but there is nothing in the definition of "feminist" that says that feminists have to be women.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on February 06, 2014, 04:34:00 pm
On a related feminist note, The two members of Pussy Riot that were recently released from prison have been unceremoniously booted from the collective. (http://pitchfork.com/news/53860-nadia-tolokonnikova-and-masha-alyokhina-no-longer-members-of-pussy-riot/) The letter does make some valid points; the most valid being that appearing at a big corporate orgy like the one that happened last night goes against what they theoretically stand for.
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Post by: stevewizzle on February 06, 2014, 04:36:24 pm
Agree with 1 and 3 but there is nothing in the definition of "feminist" that says that feminists have to be women.


agree.

do we really care that much about what someone labels themselves?  i mean really, if someone cares that much that they are going out of their way to label themselves as such, who are we to tell them "no man, your credentials don't match up". if we don't have a way to label ourselves outside the default (misogynist), i don't see a better alternative to using the label "feminist".
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomic on February 06, 2014, 04:48:30 pm
Agree with 1 and 3 but there is nothing in the definition of "feminist" that says that feminists have to be women.


agree.

do we really care that much about what someone labels themselves?  i mean really, if someone cares that much that they are going out of their way to label themselves as such, who are we to tell them "no man, your credentials don't match up". if we don't have a way to label ourselves outside the default (misogynist), i don't see a better alternative to using the label "feminist".


So women can call themselves misogynists?  I don't think that is the default.  Misogynist means you hate women.  You can be anti-feminist without hating women.  For example, you could think women should stay at home raising children but that doesn't mean you hate women. 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on February 06, 2014, 05:02:40 pm
This would make you a male chauvinist.
Agree with 1 and 3 but there is nothing in the definition of "feminist" that says that feminists have to be women.


agree.

do we really care that much about what someone labels themselves?  i mean really, if someone cares that much that they are going out of their way to label themselves as such, who are we to tell them "no man, your credentials don't match up". if we don't have a way to label ourselves outside the default (misogynist), i don't see a better alternative to using the label "feminist".


So women can call themselves misogynists?  I don't think that is the default.  Misogynist means you hate women.  You can be anti-feminist without hating women.  For example, you could think women should stay at home raising children but that doesn't mean you hate women. 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: stevewizzle on February 06, 2014, 05:09:26 pm
Agree with 1 and 3 but there is nothing in the definition of "feminist" that says that feminists have to be women.


agree.

do we really care that much about what someone labels themselves?  i mean really, if someone cares that much that they are going out of their way to label themselves as such, who are we to tell them "no man, your credentials don't match up". if we don't have a way to label ourselves outside the default (misogynist), i don't see a better alternative to using the label "feminist".


So women can call themselves misogynists?  I don't think that is the default.  Misogynist means you hate women.  You can be anti-feminist without hating women.  For example, you could think women should stay at home raising children but that doesn't mean you hate women. 

okay, return to my initial logic... if some woman wanted to label themselves as a misogynist because they felt like they hated women, why would anyone care?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: James Ford on February 06, 2014, 05:09:37 pm
Isn't the better thing to say is that you think a child should have a stay at home parent, and in most cases the female is better equipped to be the one who does so? That's my thought on that subject, as well as my wifes.


I don't think saying that makes a person a male or female chauvinist.

Agree with 1 and 3 but there is nothing in the definition of "feminist" that says that feminists have to be women.


agree.

do we really care that much about what someone labels themselves?  i mean really, if someone cares that much that they are going out of their way to label themselves as such, who are we to tell them "no man, your credentials don't match up". if we don't have a way to label ourselves outside the default (misogynist), i don't see a better alternative to using the label "feminist".


So women can call themselves misogynists?  I don't think that is the default.  Misogynist means you hate women.  You can be anti-feminist without hating women.  For example, you could think women should stay at home raising children but that doesn't mean you hate women. 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomic on February 06, 2014, 05:21:47 pm
Isn't the better thing to say is that you think a child should have a stay at home parent, and in most cases the female is better equipped to be the one who does so? That's my thought on that subject, as well as my wifes.


I don't think saying that makes a person a male or female chauvinist.

Agree with 1 and 3 but there is nothing in the definition of "feminist" that says that feminists have to be women.


agree.

do we really care that much about what someone labels themselves?  i mean really, if someone cares that much that they are going out of their way to label themselves as such, who are we to tell them "no man, your credentials don't match up". if we don't have a way to label ourselves outside the default (misogynist), i don't see a better alternative to using the label "feminist".


So women can call themselves misogynists?  I don't think that is the default.  Misogynist means you hate women.  You can be anti-feminist without hating women.  For example, you could think women should stay at home raising children but that doesn't mean you hate women. 

My wife doesn't think she should work after the child is born but hey that new Audi that I want isn't going to pay for itself.  Does that make me a feminist?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomic on February 06, 2014, 05:22:49 pm
Agree with 1 and 3 but there is nothing in the definition of "feminist" that says that feminists have to be women.


agree.

do we really care that much about what someone labels themselves?  i mean really, if someone cares that much that they are going out of their way to label themselves as such, who are we to tell them "no man, your credentials don't match up". if we don't have a way to label ourselves outside the default (misogynist), i don't see a better alternative to using the label "feminist".


So women can call themselves misogynists?  I don't think that is the default.  Misogynist means you hate women.  You can be anti-feminist without hating women.  For example, you could think women should stay at home raising children but that doesn't mean you hate women. 

okay, return to my initial logic... if some woman wanted to label themselves as a misogynist because they felt like they hated women, why would anyone care?


Would it be OK if I labeled my self a lesbian or would that be annoying?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: stevewizzle on February 06, 2014, 05:24:34 pm
Agree with 1 and 3 but there is nothing in the definition of "feminist" that says that feminists have to be women.


agree.

do we really care that much about what someone labels themselves?  i mean really, if someone cares that much that they are going out of their way to label themselves as such, who are we to tell them "no man, your credentials don't match up". if we don't have a way to label ourselves outside the default (misogynist), i don't see a better alternative to using the label "feminist".


So women can call themselves misogynists?  I don't think that is the default.  Misogynist means you hate women.  You can be anti-feminist without hating women.  For example, you could think women should stay at home raising children but that doesn't mean you hate women. 

okay, return to my initial logic... if some woman wanted to label themselves as a misogynist because they felt like they hated women, why would anyone care?


Would it be OK if I labeled my self a lesbian or would that be annoying?

oh go fuck yourself.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomic on February 06, 2014, 05:26:40 pm
Agree with 1 and 3 but there is nothing in the definition of "feminist" that says that feminists have to be women.


agree.

do we really care that much about what someone labels themselves?  i mean really, if someone cares that much that they are going out of their way to label themselves as such, who are we to tell them "no man, your credentials don't match up". if we don't have a way to label ourselves outside the default (misogynist), i don't see a better alternative to using the label "feminist".


So women can call themselves misogynists?  I don't think that is the default.  Misogynist means you hate women.  You can be anti-feminist without hating women.  For example, you could think women should stay at home raising children but that doesn't mean you hate women. 

okay, return to my initial logic... if some woman wanted to label themselves as a misogynist because they felt like they hated women, why would anyone care?


Would it be OK if I labeled my self a lesbian or would that be annoying?

oh go fuck yourself.

You are a poor loser.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: stevewizzle on February 06, 2014, 05:28:04 pm
Agree with 1 and 3 but there is nothing in the definition of "feminist" that says that feminists have to be women.


agree.

do we really care that much about what someone labels themselves?  i mean really, if someone cares that much that they are going out of their way to label themselves as such, who are we to tell them "no man, your credentials don't match up". if we don't have a way to label ourselves outside the default (misogynist), i don't see a better alternative to using the label "feminist".


So women can call themselves misogynists?  I don't think that is the default.  Misogynist means you hate women.  You can be anti-feminist without hating women.  For example, you could think women should stay at home raising children but that doesn't mean you hate women. 

okay, return to my initial logic... if some woman wanted to label themselves as a misogynist because they felt like they hated women, why would anyone care?


Would it be OK if I labeled my self a lesbian or would that be annoying?

oh go fuck yourself.

You are a poor loser.

true, but you changed the rules of the game.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: ggw on February 06, 2014, 05:53:54 pm
(http://monkeysgonetoheaven.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/fems_large.jpeg)

A study called ?Egalitarianism, Housework and Sexual Frequency in Marriage,? which appeared in The American Sociological Review last year, surprised many, precisely because it went against the logical assumption that as marriages improve by becoming more equal, the sex in these marriages will improve, too. Instead, it found that when men did certain kinds of chores around the house, couples had less sex. Specifically, if men did all of what the researchers characterized as feminine chores like folding laundry, cooking or vacuuming ? the kinds of things many women say they want their husbands to do ? then couples had sex 1.5 fewer times per month than those with husbands who did what were considered masculine chores, like taking out the trash or fixing the car. It wasn?t just the frequency that was affected, either ? at least for the wives. The more traditional the division of labor, meaning the greater the husband?s share of masculine chores compared with feminine ones, the greater his wife?s reported sexual satisfaction.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomic on February 06, 2014, 06:18:29 pm
(http://monkeysgonetoheaven.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/fems_large.jpeg)

A study called ?Egalitarianism, Housework and Sexual Frequency in Marriage,? which appeared in The American Sociological Review last year, surprised many, precisely because it went against the logical assumption that as marriages improve by becoming more equal, the sex in these marriages will improve, too. Instead, it found that when men did certain kinds of chores around the house, couples had less sex. Specifically, if men did all of what the researchers characterized as feminine chores like folding laundry, cooking or vacuuming ? the kinds of things many women say they want their husbands to do ? then couples had sex 1.5 fewer times per month than those with husbands who did what were considered masculine chores, like taking out the trash or fixing the car. It wasn?t just the frequency that was affected, either ? at least for the wives. The more traditional the division of labor, meaning the greater the husband?s share of masculine chores compared with feminine ones, the greater his wife?s reported sexual satisfaction.

Take note, James Ford.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hexenjagd on February 06, 2014, 06:25:42 pm
Agree with 1 and 3 but there is nothing in the definition of "feminist" that says that feminists have to be women.

I did not mean to imply that it cannot exist, I was more making an observation on the absurdity of this rappers claim that he was a feminist rapper.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: James Ford on February 06, 2014, 06:27:54 pm
Having a partner with good cunnilingus skills also probably helps contribute to a woman's reported sexual satisfaction.

I'm not sure if it factors into this conversation, but has anybody seen the movie Don Jon? My wife had a total boner for JGL's character, not because of his chiseled body, but because he was so obsessive about keeping his apartment clean.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hexenjagd on February 06, 2014, 06:29:28 pm
Also my main point was music related - he didn't listen to who he booked beforehand.

We can start a male feminist thread...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: James Ford on February 06, 2014, 06:37:49 pm
You're going to send your kid to daycare so that you can have an Audi? That doesn't make you a feminist, it makes you a bad parent.  ;)


Isn't the better thing to say is that you think a child should have a stay at home parent, and in most cases the female is better equipped to be the one who does so? That's my thought on that subject, as well as my wifes.


I don't think saying that makes a person a male or female chauvinist.

Agree with 1 and 3 but there is nothing in the definition of "feminist" that says that feminists have to be women.


agree.

do we really care that much about what someone labels themselves?  i mean really, if someone cares that much that they are going out of their way to label themselves as such, who are we to tell them "no man, your credentials don't match up". if we don't have a way to label ourselves outside the default (misogynist), i don't see a better alternative to using the label "feminist".


So women can call themselves misogynists?  I don't think that is the default.  Misogynist means you hate women.  You can be anti-feminist without hating women.  For example, you could think women should stay at home raising children but that doesn't mean you hate women. 

My wife doesn't think she should work after the child is born but hey that new Audi that I want isn't going to pay for itself.  Does that make me a feminist?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on February 06, 2014, 06:47:18 pm
You're going to send your kid to daycare so that you can have an Audi? That doesn't make you a feminist, it makes you a bad parent.  ;)



never ceases to amaze me how so many of your posts amount to patting yourself on the back for the choices you make...this is one technique: criticizing people who haven't made the same choices you made... people are not bad parents for sending their kids to daycare

you must be very insecure about the choices you make to need to point out their correctness to strangers on a semi-permanent basis..
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: stevewizzle on February 06, 2014, 06:47:43 pm
 ;)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: James Ford on February 06, 2014, 06:52:30 pm
So are you saying that putting a baby in daycare (when it's actually a choice) is actually a better parenting decision than having a loving parent stay home with that baby? Because if you are, you're wrong.

You're going to send your kid to daycare so that you can have an Audi? That doesn't make you a feminist, it makes you a bad parent.  ;)



never ceases to amaze me how so many of your posts amount to patting yourself on the back for the choices you make...this is one technique: criticizing people who haven't made the same choices you made... people are not bad parents for sending their kids to daycare

you must be very insecure about the choices you make to need to point out their correctness to strangers on a semi-permanent basis..
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: stevewizzle on February 06, 2014, 06:54:51 pm
i just want to apologize to everyone for somehow catalyzing the parenting circle jerk again.

back to music: future islands fucking rules.  how did i just discover these guys?  stoked to see them in a few weeks.

also, i ordered after dark 1 and 2 yesterday on clear vinyl.  spotify streaming did these albums zero justice and i'm stoked to blast this shit on high quality.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hexenjagd on February 06, 2014, 07:04:54 pm
I recommend all Of their albums, and also their releases from when they were known as Art Lords and the Self Portraits.

The members are also in these groups: the snails, peals, archer twins, moss of aura (garret solo) and hemlock Ernst (Sam solo rapping).
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomic on February 06, 2014, 07:11:42 pm
Oh well I will be driving my  new  Audi the three miles to work while you sit on a subway for two hours a day.   If it makes you to feel better about it being good parenting more power to you.


You're going to send your kid to daycare so that you can have an Audi? That doesn't make you a feminist, it makes you a bad parent.  ;)


Isn't the better thing to say is that you think a child should have a stay at home parent, and in most cases the female is better equipped to be the one who does so? That's my thought on that subject, as well as my wifes.


I don't think saying that makes a person a male or female chauvinist.

Agree with 1 and 3 but there is nothing in the definition of "feminist" that says that feminists have to be women.


agree.

do we really care that much about what someone labels themselves?  i mean really, if someone cares that much that they are going out of their way to label themselves as such, who are we to tell them "no man, your credentials don't match up". if we don't have a way to label ourselves outside the default (misogynist), i don't see a better alternative to using the label "feminist".


So women can call themselves misogynists?  I don't think that is the default.  Misogynist means you hate women.  You can be anti-feminist without hating women.  For example, you could think women should stay at home raising children but that doesn't mean you hate women. 

My wife doesn't think she should work after the child is born but hey that new Audi that I want isn't going to pay for itself.  Does that make me a feminist?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: James Ford on February 06, 2014, 07:27:35 pm
Enjoy your ride now, then enjoy your life 30 years from now when your daycare kid puts you in a nursing home.  ;)

Oh well I will be driving my  new  Audi the three miles to work while you sit on a subway for two hours a day.   If it makes you to feel better about it being good parenting more power to you.


You're going to send your kid to daycare so that you can have an Audi? That doesn't make you a feminist, it makes you a bad parent.  ;)


Isn't the better thing to say is that you think a child should have a stay at home parent, and in most cases the female is better equipped to be the one who does so? That's my thought on that subject, as well as my wifes.


I don't think saying that makes a person a male or female chauvinist.

Agree with 1 and 3 but there is nothing in the definition of "feminist" that says that feminists have to be women.


agree.

do we really care that much about what someone labels themselves?  i mean really, if someone cares that much that they are going out of their way to label themselves as such, who are we to tell them "no man, your credentials don't match up". if we don't have a way to label ourselves outside the default (misogynist), i don't see a better alternative to using the label "feminist".


So women can call themselves misogynists?  I don't think that is the default.  Misogynist means you hate women.  You can be anti-feminist without hating women.  For example, you could think women should stay at home raising children but that doesn't mean you hate women. 

My wife doesn't think she should work after the child is born but hey that new Audi that I want isn't going to pay for itself.  Does that make me a feminist?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomic on February 06, 2014, 07:38:58 pm
Sounds like a plan.  If I am so bad that I need to be in a nursing home I doubt I will care where I am.   

Enjoy your ride now, then enjoy your life 30 years from now when your daycare kid puts you in a nursing home.  ;)

Oh well I will be driving my  new  Audi the three miles to work while you sit on a subway for two hours a day.   If it makes you to feel better about it being good parenting more power to you.


You're going to send your kid to daycare so that you can have an Audi? That doesn't make you a feminist, it makes you a bad parent.  ;)


Isn't the better thing to say is that you think a child should have a stay at home parent, and in most cases the female is better equipped to be the one who does so? That's my thought on that subject, as well as my wifes.


I don't think saying that makes a person a male or female chauvinist.

Agree with 1 and 3 but there is nothing in the definition of "feminist" that says that feminists have to be women.


agree.

do we really care that much about what someone labels themselves?  i mean really, if someone cares that much that they are going out of their way to label themselves as such, who are we to tell them "no man, your credentials don't match up". if we don't have a way to label ourselves outside the default (misogynist), i don't see a better alternative to using the label "feminist".


So women can call themselves misogynists?  I don't think that is the default.  Misogynist means you hate women.  You can be anti-feminist without hating women.  For example, you could think women should stay at home raising children but that doesn't mean you hate women. 

My wife doesn't think she should work after the child is born but hey that new Audi that I want isn't going to pay for itself.  Does that make me a feminist?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: stevewizzle on February 06, 2014, 07:50:05 pm
listen: no matter how incredible you are at parenting, someone else is going to be a shitty parent. and their shitty kid is eventually going to cross paths with your kid, and bam, your kid is shitty too.

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: James Ford on February 06, 2014, 08:09:56 pm
I'm glad my wife doesn't read this board anymore. If she did, she'd see your comment and use it to further her argument for homeschooling.

So I really like this album.
 http://www.npr.org/2014/01/26/264996373/first-listen-jeremy-messersmith-heart-murmurs

In some pictures, he even vaguely looks like you.

Does that count as a contribution to this thread?

listen: no matter how incredible you are at parenting, someone else is going to be a shitty parent. and their shitty kid is eventually going to cross paths with your kid, and bam, your kid is shitty too.


Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomic on February 06, 2014, 08:17:19 pm
I'm glad my wife doesn't read this board anymore. If she did, she'd see your comment and use it to further her argument for homeschooling.

So I really like this album.
 http://www.npr.org/2014/01/26/264996373/first-listen-jeremy-messersmith-heart-murmurs

In some pictures, he even vaguely looks like you.

Does that count as a contribution to this thread?

listen: no matter how incredible you are at parenting, someone else is going to be a shitty parent. and their shitty kid is eventually going to cross paths with your kid, and bam, your kid is shitty too.

HH

Only child that is home schooled?  Sounds like a future serial killer.  Every person I have met that has been home schooled has been pretty much insane and has poor personal hygiene. 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: James Ford on February 06, 2014, 08:20:40 pm
That's an argument my wife won't win.  ;D

How many people do you know who were homeschooled? I know only one, and her hygiene is fine. Sanity debateable.

So what do you guys think of the new Marissa Nadler album?


I'm glad my wife doesn't read this board anymore. If she did, she'd see your comment and use it to further her argument for homeschooling.

So I really like this album.
 http://www.npr.org/2014/01/26/264996373/first-listen-jeremy-messersmith-heart-murmurs

In some pictures, he even vaguely looks like you.

Does that count as a contribution to this thread?

listen: no matter how incredible you are at parenting, someone else is going to be a shitty parent. and their shitty kid is eventually going to cross paths with your kid, and bam, your kid is shitty too.

HH

Only child that is home schooled?  Sounds like a future serial killer.  Every person I have met that has been home schooled has been pretty much insane and has poor personal hygiene. 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: stevewizzle on February 06, 2014, 09:09:03 pm
i only have one home-schooled friend. he plays in one of those awful folk bands, plays one of the yeehaw instruments, wears dumb hats, and in conversation, sounds pretentious at every moment they are provided the opportunity.  don't home school.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: James Ford on February 06, 2014, 09:26:07 pm
And I apologize if I offended anybody. Child rearing is just something I have strong opinions about, and i'm not good at filtering myself. If what I say offends, don't take it personally and just skip by what I say!

i just want to apologize to everyone for somehow catalyzing the parenting circle jerk again.

back to music: future islands fucking rules.  how did i just discover these guys?  stoked to see them in a few weeks.

also, i ordered after dark 1 and 2 yesterday on clear vinyl.  spotify streaming did these albums zero justice and i'm stoked to blast this shit on high quality.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: James Ford on February 06, 2014, 09:26:46 pm
Wow, sounds like a great friend to have around!

i only have one home-schooled friend. he plays in one of those awful folk bands, plays one of the yeehaw instruments, wears dumb hats, and in conversation, sounds pretentious at every moment they are provided the opportunity.  don't home school.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: stevewizzle on February 06, 2014, 09:38:54 pm
Wow, sounds like a great friend to have around!

i only have one home-schooled friend. he plays in one of those awful folk bands, plays one of the yeehaw instruments, wears dumb hats, and in conversation, sounds pretentious at every moment they are provided the opportunity.  don't home school.

he's up there with the best of em.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: stevewizzle on February 06, 2014, 09:39:50 pm
I recommend all Of their albums, and also their releases from when they were known as Art Lords and the Self Portraits.

The members are also in these groups: the snails, peals, archer twins, moss of aura (garret solo) and hemlock Ernst (Sam solo rapping).

peals never did it for me... although from seeing the reaction of many on this forum (okay, azag), it seems like there is something more to their live show? and the art lord and the self portraits sound nothing like them! what gives?

i'll work through the rest of these, thanks.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hexenjagd on February 06, 2014, 09:49:54 pm
http://www.ehserecords.com/ss001/
Archer Twins is William plus Stuart (who runs Ehse Records).  Sadly I skipped the one show I saw advertised a few years back, and I don't know if they played any other shows.

I don't know why Art Lord sounds different, I suppose they just matured their sound over time.  The first two Future Islands albums (Little Advances/wave like home) sound a lot different than their newer ones (In Evening Air/On the Water/Singles (heard all of these songs last year when they played them in an epic 90 minute set)).  I prefer the newer sound but the older songs like Beach Foam are sweet too.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on February 07, 2014, 12:16:18 am
i only have one home-schooled friend. he plays in one of those awful folk bands, plays one of the yeehaw instruments, wears dumb hats, and in conversation, sounds pretentious at every moment they are provided the opportunity.  don't home school.

n=1 isn't very convincing.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on February 07, 2014, 12:57:33 am
It takes a real piece of work to write "If I say you are a lousy parent don't take it personally I just feel that way strongly! I'm just not good at not telling you how I honestly feel about your parenting..so please ignore it."

And that is why I will take Brian Wallace over James Ford any day... Brian Wallace will insult you over your views of some musician or other..James Ford does it about what kind of parent you are. That kind of thing should really be off limits... If James Ford or anyone said that to my face I'd beat the crap out of them....



Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: James Ford on February 07, 2014, 08:28:35 am
Thanks for your final words on the matter, now here's mine.

If a 50 year old guy who claims to make beaucoup money states on a public message board:

My wife doesn't think she should work after the child is born but hey that new Audi that I want isn't going to pay for itself.

I'm going to call him out on his bad parenting (and spousal) decision.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hexenjagd on February 07, 2014, 09:40:00 am
Can you guys go start a parenting thread somewhere else?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 07, 2014, 09:52:35 am
Can you guys go start a parenting thread somewhere else?
Oh, wait, we already did.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hexenjagd on February 07, 2014, 10:00:49 am
I wish people would use it. I only read a couple of threads here and having people constantly going off topic is annoying.

Maybe I should go post about video games and movies over and over again in the Beer and Baseball threads.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 07, 2014, 10:06:48 am
Maybe I should go post about video games and movies over and over again in the Beer and Baseball threads.
I still say the solution to all this mess is to ban Just Announced.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomic on February 07, 2014, 10:25:54 am
Thanks for your final words on the matter, now here's mine.

If a 50 year old guy who claims to make beaucoup money states on a public message board:

My wife doesn't think she should work after the child is born but hey that new Audi that I want isn't going to pay for itself.

I'm going to call him out on his bad parenting (and spousal) decision.


Wait, I am 49.  Second whe did I claim to make beaucup money?  Third, it is a joke. 

That is the difference between my post about how I am better than you guys and your post about how you are better than us. I am joking.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomic on February 07, 2014, 10:27:07 am
Maybe I should go post about video games and movies over and over again in the Beer and Baseball threads.
I still say the solution to all this mess is to ban Just Announced.

And ban talk about video games as well.  I think I should make up a list of acceptable discussion points. 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: James Ford on February 07, 2014, 10:31:26 am
I never said I was better than anybody.

Can I share with you a quote from my wife regarding daycare? And if you think she (or I for respecting and sharing my wife's views), by having these thoughts. am saying I am better than you, well fine. Infer whatever you want.


to me, there's be no other way for a child under one...and possibly 2-3...but no way I would leave a non-walking, non-talking infant who is supposed to be held and cuddled all day and given breastmilk on demand with someone other than me...
It's not the kind of thing I need a study to tell me is good or bad for the child either, as a mother, I just know...and I am actually sad for those who can't or won't stay with their babies...
Anyway, I would have been heartbroken to be with a husband who tried to push me to go back to work before I wanted to


Thanks for your final words on the matter, now here's mine.

If a 50 year old guy who claims to make beaucoup money states on a public message board:

My wife doesn't think she should work after the child is born but hey that new Audi that I want isn't going to pay for itself.

I'm going to call him out on his bad parenting (and spousal) decision.


Wait, I am 49.  Second whe did I claim to make beaucup money?  Third, it is a joke. 

That is the difference between my post about how I am better than you guys and your post about how you are better than us. I am joking.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: James Ford on February 07, 2014, 10:35:43 am
Why would be want to talk about video games? We're adults.

I wish people would use it. I only read a couple of threads here and having people constantly going off topic is annoying.

Maybe I should go post about video games and movies over and over again in the Beer and Baseball threads.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on February 07, 2014, 12:44:59 pm
adults, who cant spell, we.  video games, rule . . . they rule, you marathon runner.  so there.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: slappy on February 07, 2014, 12:52:34 pm
I never said I was better than anybody.

Can I share with you a quote from my wife regarding daycare? And if you think she (or I for respecting and sharing my wife's views), by having these thoughts. am saying I am better than you, well fine. Infer whatever you want.


to me, there's be no other way for a child under one...and possibly 2-3...but no way I would leave a non-walking, non-talking infant who is supposed to be held and cuddled all day and given breastmilk on demand with someone other than me...
It's not the kind of thing I need a study to tell me is good or bad for the child either, as a mother, I just know...and I am actually sad for those who can't or won't stay with their babies...
Anyway, I would have been heartbroken to be with a husband who tried to push me to go back to work before I wanted to



As a critical thinking human... the 'as a mother, I just know' is complete and utter bullshit.
Mother's can be just as shitty as anybody.

China Arnold just knew she had to microwave her 28 day old baby daughter.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/19/china-arnold-appeal_n_3948106.html?utm_hp_ref=murder (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/19/china-arnold-appeal_n_3948106.html?utm_hp_ref=murder)

Sara Krueger just knew she needed to stick her 3 year old in a suitcase before putting her in the freezer.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/04/kayleigh-slusher_n_4726743.html?utm_hp_ref=crime (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/04/kayleigh-slusher_n_4726743.html?utm_hp_ref=crime)

As a mother, Jennifer Marie Brys knows to pimp her 4 year old daughter on Craig's List.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/31/jennifer-marie-brys-backpage-sell-4-year-old_n_4181632.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/31/jennifer-marie-brys-backpage-sell-4-year-old_n_4181632.html)  But in her defense, I'm sure the activities were to take place at home and not in daycare.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on February 07, 2014, 12:56:22 pm
and azag, wanted me to take my musings on his twitter posts, elsewhere.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: James Ford on February 07, 2014, 12:58:12 pm
So four bad apples make any argument a woman who is a mom makes regarding motherhood complete and utter bullshit?

I never said I was better than anybody.

Can I share with you a quote from my wife regarding daycare? And if you think she (or I for respecting and sharing my wife's views), by having these thoughts. am saying I am better than you, well fine. Infer whatever you want.


to me, there's be no other way for a child under one...and possibly 2-3...but no way I would leave a non-walking, non-talking infant who is supposed to be held and cuddled all day and given breastmilk on demand with someone other than me...
It's not the kind of thing I need a study to tell me is good or bad for the child either, as a mother, I just know...and I am actually sad for those who can't or won't stay with their babies...
Anyway, I would have been heartbroken to be with a husband who tried to push me to go back to work before I wanted to



As a critical thinking human... the 'as a mother, I just know' is complete and utter bullshit.
Mother's can be just as shitty as anybody.

China Arnold just knew she had to microwave her 28 day old baby daughter.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/19/china-arnold-appeal_n_3948106.html?utm_hp_ref=murder (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/19/china-arnold-appeal_n_3948106.html?utm_hp_ref=murder)

Sara Krueger just knew she needed to stick her 3 year old in a suitcase before putting her in the freezer.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/04/kayleigh-slusher_n_4726743.html?utm_hp_ref=crime (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/04/kayleigh-slusher_n_4726743.html?utm_hp_ref=crime)

As a mother, Jennifer Marie Brys knows to pimp her 4 year old daughter on Craig's List.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/31/jennifer-marie-brys-backpage-sell-4-year-old_n_4181632.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/31/jennifer-marie-brys-backpage-sell-4-year-old_n_4181632.html)  But in her defense, I'm sure the activities were to take place at home and not in daycare.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomic on February 07, 2014, 01:01:02 pm
I would be willing to wager a bet that in general when the mother doesn't work the children turn out worse.  Welfare mommies tend to have more kids, live in areas with bad school systems and usually have absent fathers.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on February 07, 2014, 01:05:31 pm
oh, no, he . . . oh you know where im going with that.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: chaz on February 07, 2014, 01:06:33 pm
I never said I was better than anybody.

Can I share with you a quote from my wife regarding daycare? And if you think she (or I for respecting and sharing my wife's views), by having these thoughts. am saying I am better than you, well fine. Infer whatever you want.


to me, there's be no other way for a child under one...and possibly 2-3...but no way I would leave a non-walking, non-talking infant who is supposed to be held and cuddled all day and given breastmilk on demand with someone other than me...
It's not the kind of thing I need a study to tell me is good or bad for the child either, as a mother, I just know...and I am actually sad for those who can't or won't stay with their babies...
Anyway, I would have been heartbroken to be with a husband who tried to push me to go back to work before I wanted to



As a critical thinking human... the 'as a mother, I just know' is complete and utter bullshit.
Mother's can be just as shitty as anybody.



Yes, I have seen, first hand and with devastating results, the "but I'm their MOTHER" defense put in to practice.  The discrimination that fathers face because they are not "mothers" is ungodly and unreal.  I'm ranting here...this is off topic.  But mothers do not always know best. 

That said, I'd say it's pretty obvious that the best situation for a newborn, generally speaking, is to spend as much time as possible with the mother, rather than $12/hour baby holders at some daycare somewhere.

Sadly, this is not possible for everyone.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on February 07, 2014, 01:08:47 pm
so we have two threads now fulltime devoted to parenting?

geez
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on February 07, 2014, 01:10:25 pm
thats what you get . . . for being heterosexual.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on February 07, 2014, 01:11:04 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUkm78l9xoI

here . . . heres something musical, to ponder.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on February 07, 2014, 01:13:55 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUkm78l9xoI

here . . . heres something musical, to ponder.

Man, the Flaming Lips are so annoying.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: stevewizzle on February 07, 2014, 01:35:21 pm
i only have one home-schooled friend. he plays in one of those awful folk bands, plays one of the yeehaw instruments, wears dumb hats, and in conversation, sounds pretentious at every moment they are provided the opportunity.  don't home school.

n=1 isn't very convincing.

we get it, you understand the concept of statistics

what you dont understand is the concept of a joke
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: slappy on February 07, 2014, 04:20:49 pm
So four bad apples make any argument a woman who is a mom makes regarding motherhood complete and utter bullshit?

Yes, a woman that justifies their criticism of another's parenting by saying they have popped out a baby is full of complete and utter bullshit.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 07, 2014, 08:52:33 pm
oh darn x-factor got cancelled, when can we cancel Simon Cowell so he can stop destroying popular music...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 08, 2014, 09:05:36 am
Revenge! On The Wikipedia

http://xrrf.blogspot.co.uk/2014/02/panic-at-venue.html

Panic At The Disco had to cut short their a Atlanta gig, when the venue's floor started to collapse.

someone took to wikipedia to dish out some snark


During the Panic! At the Disco concert after the second song the building was evacuated due to possible cracking in the floor. People who hailed mostly from the outer boroughs expressed dismay that such a terrible thing could have happened to them, meaning they were slightly discomfited, and expressed no remorse for damaging the structure of a 116 year old building. Many Atlantans offered to drive them back to their far flung homes for free just to remove their potential threat to downtown buildings.

note: to julian don't be getting any idea...

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: James Ford on February 08, 2014, 09:08:11 am
Reply moved to appropriate thread in hope of not continuing to derail this one.

So four bad apples make any argument a woman who is a mom makes regarding motherhood complete and utter bullshit?

Yes, a woman that justifies their criticism of another's parenting by saying they have popped out a baby is full of complete and utter bullshit.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on February 08, 2014, 12:25:36 pm
ratbastard must have been abused severely while utwo played in the background.  like a gitmo form of torture or something.   i have never seen a person hate a band as much as he hates utwo.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: James Ford on February 08, 2014, 01:03:05 pm
I know. I really don't understand that one.

I'm not a big fan of U2, but I've never thought of them as a band deserving of hatred.

ratbastard must have been abused severely while utwo played in the background.  like a gitmo form of torture or something.   i have never seen a person hate a band as much as he hates utwo.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on February 09, 2014, 01:54:14 pm
twerk cobain?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomic on February 09, 2014, 05:46:31 pm
Interesting article about the music biz from an artists pov:

http://www.cracked.com/article_20939_7-things-record-deal-teaches-you-about-music-industry.html (http://www.cracked.com/article_20939_7-things-record-deal-teaches-you-about-music-industry.html)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on February 11, 2014, 10:16:29 pm
How will Ratbastard react to this? An ardent socialist preaching the gospel about Bono. http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/bono-u2-invisible-red-bank-of-america ?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: slappy on February 14, 2014, 06:30:25 pm
Had iTunes on random play. For a good couple seconds was thinking 'All Cats Are Grey' by the Cure was Boards of Canada.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on February 20, 2014, 11:28:26 am
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1/1781986_10152201648276187_636999069_n.jpg)

Don't remember seeing this one. Most accurate yet.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on February 20, 2014, 04:37:32 pm
(http://gothamist.com/attachments/arts_jen/2recordsdumpter.jpg)

Photos: Tons Of Vinyl Being Tossed From Former Williamsburg Record Shop (http://gothamist.com/2014/02/20/dumpster_full_of_vinyl.php)

Indisputable Fact: If it's on vinyl then it's golden  ::)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 25, 2014, 05:07:42 pm
Twitter is a buzz regarding an Oasis reunion. Best quip I've seen so far is

pros and cons of oasis

Pro no more beady eye
Con Oasis reunites
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 25, 2014, 05:16:18 pm
What needs to happen now is a Noel Gallagher commentary on Vine about the Oasis Instagram announcement
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on February 25, 2014, 09:22:32 pm
I must be old and out of touch, or just unwilling to accept the ridiculousness that is yet another form of visual entertainment on the internet . . . but i refuse to understand or accept the need of, this thing, called vine.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 25, 2014, 09:38:16 pm
i personnel could care less about vine too, but it's just the perfect platform for Noel to comment on this

http://instagram.com/p/k2fsb8vdIk/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on February 25, 2014, 11:03:35 pm
Walkies, what do you think about emojis?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 26, 2014, 09:52:35 am
The big announcement was a reissue/box set which includes a tote bag and keychain.  Also a limited edition cassette of demos.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on February 26, 2014, 10:40:05 am
Walkies, what do you think about emojis?


to be honest, at first, like most of human kind, i found them to be endearing and cute representations of laziness . . . but now, like most of human kind, ive grown tired of their simplistic answers to inane forms of neocommunications.  i guess i should sum up such logic by posting one now, here at the end of this sentence, as some sort of reasonational metaphor, but i wont, because wtf, lolz and omg.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on February 26, 2014, 10:41:35 am
So cassettes are officially mainstream again.


Blame/thank the noise/DIY/punk communities for that.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on February 26, 2014, 10:45:28 am
i blame, boredom, and spoiled brats everywhere, who need to be homeless eating out of dumpsters for about a month to slap some fucking sense of actual humanity into their wastes of energy.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on February 26, 2014, 10:47:26 am
Walkies, what do you think about emojis?


to be honest, at first, like most of human kind, i found them to be endearing and cute representations of laziness . . . but now, like most of human kind, ive grown tired of their simplistic answers to inane forms of neocommunications.  i guess i should sum up such logic by posting one now, here at the end of this sentence, as some sort of reasonational metaphor, but i wont, because wtf, lolz and omg.

Well what do you think of my idea to make emoji versions of song lyrics? Cop Killer (https://twitter.com/ahmadmzaghal/status/438214172284026880) Add it Up intro and verses 1 and 2 (https://twitter.com/ahmadmzaghal/status/438552474597982208)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on February 26, 2014, 10:52:26 am
all i see is blank boxes, but then again, all i want to see is blank boxes.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on February 26, 2014, 10:56:51 am
Do they only work on phones? That's no good.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on February 26, 2014, 03:57:06 pm
i just joined twitter myself, after a long battle of you must not join because it is dumb.  but i get excited thinking about stuff to tweet, and i dont, know even why.  i actually hang my head in shame that i am having to watch a youtube video on how to get the finer aspects of understanding the whole thing, because besides typing in a ridiculous inane comment every so often, i dont really know what i am doing.  good lord, it sounds, like me here.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: slappy on February 26, 2014, 04:57:35 pm
From spin.com (http://spin.com)
State's Most Popular Music Not As Popular Anywhere Else (aggregated from streaming sites).

(http://musicmachinery.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/distinctive_artist_map-2.png?w=620&h=437)

The source website also has charts to confirm young people listen to shitty music.
http://musicmachinery.com/ (http://musicmachinery.com/)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hexenjagd on February 26, 2014, 05:02:03 pm
I saw that the other day and thought some of them were really weird.  Kurt Vile for Oregon?  Edward Sharpe for PA?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on February 26, 2014, 05:13:55 pm
That map is highly misleading...

Another caveat: The map only shows, as Lumere puts it, "the top most distinctive popular artist for a state that hasn't already been selected for a more populous state."
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 26, 2014, 05:19:15 pm
Highly misleading or not PA and DE have a lot to answer for.  And who knew Idaho has become a hot bed for alternative lifestyles. 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: slappy on February 26, 2014, 05:25:11 pm
That map is highly misleading...

Another caveat: The map only shows, as Lumere puts it, "the top most distinctive popular artist for a state that hasn't already been selected for a more populous state."

Yeah, I was trying to figure out with this rational if there are still more people listening to Tegan and Sara in California than Idaho.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomic on February 26, 2014, 05:34:21 pm
I saw that the other day and thought some of them were really weird.  Kurt Vile for Oregon?  Edward Sharpe for PA?

Lot of colleges in PA.  I never heard of Kelly Rowland.  I guess it was smart for Sufjan Stevens to name an album after Illinois. Metric in Minnesota is probably due to Illegal Alien Canadians coming down.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on February 26, 2014, 07:49:11 pm
somebody told me that sufjan wanted to name an album after every state . . . i wonder how true that is?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on February 26, 2014, 10:07:37 pm
The Yo La Tengo WFMU covers show is on.

Basically, if you donate $100 or more to WFMU, Yo La Tengo will play any cover you ask them to play.

https://www.wfmu.org/marathon/pledge.php?pr=ED
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on February 26, 2014, 11:01:32 pm
Just put in a request for Swell Maps' Cakeshop Girl. Let's see what happens.

http://wfmu.org
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: James Ford on February 27, 2014, 10:27:10 am
Perhaps this map is more telling. And more depressing.

http://m.motherjones.com/mixed-media/2014/02/map-does-not-show-what-your-states-favorite-band

(http://m.motherjones.com/files/fav_artist_map-4.png)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomic on February 27, 2014, 11:27:59 am
somebody told me that sufjan wanted to name an album after every state . . . i wonder how true that is?

It isn't working out at all.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on February 27, 2014, 10:23:04 pm
(http://musicmachinery.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/distinctive_artist_map-2.png?w=620&h=437)

The most believable one here is Arizona.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: slappy on February 28, 2014, 11:04:40 am
(http://musicmachinery.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/distinctive_artist_map-2.png?w=620&h=437)

The most believable one here is Arizona.

I'd add Verhampshire.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on February 28, 2014, 11:07:31 am
Listening to a Smiths/Lana Del Rey mashup right now called "This Charming Video Game." It actually works surprisingly well.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 28, 2014, 12:17:03 pm
Listening to a Smiths/Lana Del Rey mashup right now called "This Charming Video Game." It actually works surprisingly well.

Link? This seems right up my alley.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Ardamus on February 28, 2014, 03:12:41 pm
(http://musicmachinery.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/distinctive_artist_map-2.png?w=620&h=437)

The most believable one here is Arizona.


True. But AWOLNATION being Utah is a bit of a stretch. LOL. They got Florida right with Rick Ross.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on March 03, 2014, 02:13:32 am
Listening to a Smiths/Lana Del Rey mashup right now called "This Charming Video Game." It actually works surprisingly well.

Link? This seems right up my alley.

Here ya go. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yd0zpEMF5sI)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on March 03, 2014, 08:13:57 pm
http://www.newnownext.com/beyonces-drunk-in-love-emoji-music-video-is-a-masterpiece-watch/03/2014/

somebody, must have been, reading azags twitter.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 04, 2014, 10:49:58 pm
http://www.newnownext.com/beyonces-drunk-in-love-emoji-music-video-is-a-masterpiece-watch/03/2014/

somebody, must have been, reading azags twitter.

yeah azags and i have been bested by Beyonce once again....

but i did get re-tweeted by Belle and Sebastian for my first attempt...  (small victory)

https://twitter.com/kosmo_wren/status/438825833869082624



 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on March 04, 2014, 11:20:58 pm
http://www.newnownext.com/beyonces-drunk-in-love-emoji-music-video-is-a-masterpiece-watch/03/2014/

somebody, must have been, reading azags twitter.

yeah azags and i have been bested by Beyonce once again....

but i did get re-tweeted by Belle and Sebastian for my first attempt...  (small victory)

https://twitter.com/kosmo_wren/status/438825833869082624



 

http://www.avclub.com/article/text-me-ishmael-an-allemoji-translation-of-herman-105760
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on March 05, 2014, 11:13:00 am
i do so enjoy reading both your twitters of perspective, meaning azag and kosmo.  i am such a novice to the world of twitter, and seem to want to use it for the notices of advancement and potential option opportunities of work relating to writing, be so if there is any.  to me, life is nothing more than advancement, which can be sad, if you wish upon a star for too long.  what, in your technoinfinite wisdom is the best way for me to learn the ins and outs of twitter and are there secrets to steering the people you want, who you consider contemporaries and hands to help rock your cradle further along, to your twitter feeds?  im sure there are articles or youtube videos out there somewhere which have these answers, or maybe profound practice is a better option . . . but i feel asking the sources of those who seem to be so very proficient in the art of the one hundred forty, would be my first best stop.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 05, 2014, 09:49:24 pm
honestly twitter is mainly about bragging, hoping for the occasional retweet and getting a response from some one well known.  i follow far to many 90s UK bands, funk groups and labels.  i probably follow far to many verify accounts and not enough of ordinary folk like myself. 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 05, 2014, 09:58:16 pm
Well this should spark an interesting debate... Someone did the analysis of Pitchfork scores verses the number of time that review was shared on Facebook determine was hipster and was "bro".  And here are results

http://priceonomics.com/the-hipster-music-index/

(http://pix-media.s3.amazonaws.com/blog/627/ScreenShot2014-03-04at11.28.50AM.png)

Least obscure and topping the "Beer Me Bro" Music Index is The National.

Most obscure and topping the "you?ve probably never heard of them" music index is The Field.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hexenjagd on March 06, 2014, 03:14:09 pm
Why is the bro artist the National?  Wouldnt it be Kanye West?  He has a lot more shares... Same with MBV. 

Or are you basing that on the National having a slightly lower score? 

And is the Field "you never heard of them" or "nobody gives a shit enough to share the pitchfork writeup on them"? 

Who shares pitchfork reviews? 

And what is a "bro" and a "hipster" in your own words?

Edit:
Oh i see the "bro me" index on the article... strange

Edit2: MBV isnt hipster approved?  Nobody told the crowd of hipsters in Philly last year that they shouldnt be there...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: bearman🐻 on March 18, 2014, 11:48:41 am
http://thetalkhouse.com/reviews/view/peter-holsapple-foster-the-people

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on March 18, 2014, 12:13:19 pm
^I noticed that earlier but have yet to read. Talk about a bizarre combination.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomic on March 18, 2014, 12:34:22 pm
Why is the bro artist the National?  Wouldnt it be Kanye West?  He has a lot more shares... Same with MBV. 

Or are you basing that on the National having a slightly lower score? 

And is the Field "you never heard of them" or "nobody gives a shit enough to share the pitchfork writeup on them"? 

Who shares pitchfork reviews? 

And what is a "bro" and a "hipster" in your own words?

Edit:
Oh i see the "bro me" index on the article... strange

Edit2: MBV isnt hipster approved?  Nobody told the crowd of hipsters in Philly last year that they shouldnt be there...

The thing is stupid.  Arcade Fire isn't a bro band.   Not that there is anything wrong with being a Bro band.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on March 18, 2014, 04:35:32 pm
Hard to tell who is and is not a bro band without going to one of their shows. I think Roomrunner are becoming a bro band, for instance. I talked about that a little in this thing I made for a couple friends' webzine. (http://www.fvckthemedia.com/issue30/shooting-in-the)


Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hexenjagd on March 18, 2014, 07:15:29 pm
I've been to ten or more roomrunner shows. Most are not so bro. It was the fact that they had a keg of free beer And most of the crowd was from bel air and friends with at least Brett. And it was only five bros most of the crowd was fine.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on March 18, 2014, 07:44:34 pm
I've been to ten or more roomrunner shows. Most are not so bro. It was the fact that they had a keg of free beer And most of the crowd was from bel air and friends with at least Brett. And it was only five bros most of the crowd was fine.

bel air? wow i do like me some bel air... home of the all american girl anne samuel... 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on March 19, 2014, 07:33:36 am
Yeah I've been to quite a few myself and that was the only one like that. Hopefully I jumped to conclusions in that last post.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on March 19, 2014, 12:20:51 pm
No clue where this post should go, but what are the usual set times at Ottobar on a Saturday?

cc: atomic, az, kilsally
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hexenjagd on March 19, 2014, 01:01:12 pm
It depends on how many bands are playing.  I have been to shows as early as 7 pm and as late as 10 pm for the first band.  They are pretty good about posting set times on Facebook and Twitter; and they usually reply on either when asked about a specific show.  Which show are you asking about?

If it is for the Deen Ween show it would probably go;
8 - doors
845 - THE PILTDOWN MEN
930 - SATELLITE HEARTS
1030 - THE DEAN WEEN GROUP

Or maybe DWG at 11 and SH at 945.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Vas Deferens on March 19, 2014, 01:21:07 pm
Between 10:30 and 11 pm is a good guess for Dean Ween. Ottobar is usually on time.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on March 19, 2014, 01:54:41 pm
thanks!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hexenjagd on March 19, 2014, 09:10:23 pm
Why Wye Oak dropped the guitar:
http://www.elle.com/news/culture/sxsw-wye-oak
Quote
What was the most empowering part of that process, trouncing writer's block?

Just the realization that the fate of this band was in my hands. It was a good thing, though, because I honestly thought that the fact that I couldn't write any more guitar songs meant that Wye Oak wouldn't exist. The most empowering thing I can imagine was realizing that the band could be whatever I'd want it to be. All told, it's about the songs themselves, and whatever path I take to get to those songs, and however I decide to dress them up aesthetically, that's the heart of it. It's always been about the songs themselves.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 20, 2014, 07:42:06 pm
It totally made my day to find out that Andy Partridge turned an offer to join the Pat Travers band and Colin Moulding turned down an offer to tour as bass player with Pink Floyd. Andy has been setting some XTC facts straight via twitter of late. https://twitter.com/xtcfans
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hexenjagd on March 24, 2014, 01:05:24 pm
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/culture/2014/03/lord-jamar-rap-hip-hop-conservative.html

Is Mr Lord Jamar racist and homophobic, or does he have a point?  Should hip-hop stay in the realm of only alpha male black dudes?  Are white rappers, white fans, and gay rappers watering down the whiskey?  is he just old and out of touch with the times?  isnt change good?  Should that culture  limit itself to one thing, or should it be adaptive?

(my thoughts are: the more diverse the voices, the more diverse the product. Hip hop and all genres of music should be for all mankind, NOT just one group of people)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: ggw on March 24, 2014, 01:13:22 pm
Even the NY Times critics think change is bad:

"So when Macklemore bests Mr. Lamar ? and Jay Z, Drake and Kanye West ? for a rap Grammy award, he makes sure that he kisses the ring. ?I robbed you? is a strikingly powerful phrase in this context: a white artist?s muscling into a historically black genre, essentially uninvited, and taking its laurel. In a nutshell, this is the entire cycle of racial borrowing in an environment of white privilege: black art, white appropriation, white guilt, repeat until there?s nothing left to appropriate."

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on March 24, 2014, 01:43:55 pm
Homophobic, totally.


Whether or not he is being racist is definitely debatable. White people have been culturally appropriating music made by African Americans and not fairly giving them credit since at least the 20's if not earlier. Then there is Orientalism which has been going on for much longer.


So yeah, Hard to blame him for at least being a little wary of white appropriation (it happened a long time ago and these arguments are about 20 years too late though).
The homophobic stuff is inexcusable, however.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on March 24, 2014, 02:07:06 pm
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/culture/2014/03/lord-jamar-rap-hip-hop-conservative.html

Is Mr Lord Jamar racist and homophobic, or does he have a point?  Should hip-hop stay in the realm of only alpha male black dudes?  Are white rappers, white fans, and gay rappers watering down the whiskey?  is he just old and out of touch with the times?  isnt change good?  Should that culture  limit itself to one thing, or should it be adaptive?

(my thoughts are: the more diverse the voices, the more diverse the product. Hip hop and all genres of music should be for all mankind, NOT just one group of people)

Use the "what's good for the goose is good for the gander" rule. If I said this same thing about African-American neuvo-riche "watering down" my yacht club, I'd get banned from here.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on March 24, 2014, 02:44:31 pm
The moment when the misappropriation of rap by white people was complete (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8aqAgtwqcU)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: ggw on March 24, 2014, 03:50:17 pm
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/culture/2014/03/lord-jamar-rap-hip-hop-conservative.html

Is Mr Lord Jamar racist and homophobic, or does he have a point?  Should hip-hop stay in the realm of only alpha male black dudes?  Are white rappers, white fans, and gay rappers watering down the whiskey?  is he just old and out of touch with the times?  isnt change good?  Should that culture  limit itself to one thing, or should it be adaptive?

(my thoughts are: the more diverse the voices, the more diverse the product. Hip hop and all genres of music should be for all mankind, NOT just one group of people)

Use the "what's good for the goose is good for the gander" rule. If I said this same thing about African-American neuvo-riche "watering down" my yacht club, I'd get banned from here.

Mon dieu, Julian!

"Nouveau" - not "neuvo"

Also, "en" route, not "on" route.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on March 24, 2014, 03:51:52 pm
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/culture/2014/03/lord-jamar-rap-hip-hop-conservative.html

Is Mr Lord Jamar racist and homophobic, or does he have a point?  Should hip-hop stay in the realm of only alpha male black dudes?  Are white rappers, white fans, and gay rappers watering down the whiskey?  is he just old and out of touch with the times?  isnt change good?  Should that culture  limit itself to one thing, or should it be adaptive?

(my thoughts are: the more diverse the voices, the more diverse the product. Hip hop and all genres of music should be for all mankind, NOT just one group of people)

Use the "what's good for the goose is good for the gander" rule. If I said this same thing about African-American neuvo-riche "watering down" my yacht club, I'd get banned from here.

Mon dieu, Julian!

"Nouveau" - not "neuvo"

Also, "en" route, not "on" route.

PWNT
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on March 24, 2014, 03:52:27 pm
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/culture/2014/03/lord-jamar-rap-hip-hop-conservative.html

Is Mr Lord Jamar racist and homophobic, or does he have a point?  Should hip-hop stay in the realm of only alpha male black dudes?  Are white rappers, white fans, and gay rappers watering down the whiskey?  is he just old and out of touch with the times?  isnt change good?  Should that culture  limit itself to one thing, or should it be adaptive?

(my thoughts are: the more diverse the voices, the more diverse the product. Hip hop and all genres of music should be for all mankind, NOT just one group of people)

Use the "what's good for the goose is good for the gander" rule. If I said this same thing about African-American neuvo-riche "watering down" my yacht club, I'd get banned from here.

Mon dieu, Julian!

"Nouveau" - not "neuvo"

Also, "en" route, not "on" route.
I've commented on this several times. I can only use voice to text. It's spotty at best.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: ggw on March 24, 2014, 03:57:34 pm
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/culture/2014/03/lord-jamar-rap-hip-hop-conservative.html

Is Mr Lord Jamar racist and homophobic, or does he have a point?  Should hip-hop stay in the realm of only alpha male black dudes?  Are white rappers, white fans, and gay rappers watering down the whiskey?  is he just old and out of touch with the times?  isnt change good?  Should that culture  limit itself to one thing, or should it be adaptive?

(my thoughts are: the more diverse the voices, the more diverse the product. Hip hop and all genres of music should be for all mankind, NOT just one group of people)

Use the "what's good for the goose is good for the gander" rule. If I said this same thing about African-American neuvo-riche "watering down" my yacht club, I'd get banned from here.

Mon dieu, Julian!

"Nouveau" - not "neuvo"

Also, "en" route, not "on" route.
I've commented on this several times. I can only use voice to text. It's spotty at best.

And your voice to text program defaults to Estonian?

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/neuvo
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on March 24, 2014, 04:02:19 pm
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/culture/2014/03/lord-jamar-rap-hip-hop-conservative.html

Is Mr Lord Jamar racist and homophobic, or does he have a point?  Should hip-hop stay in the realm of only alpha male black dudes?  Are white rappers, white fans, and gay rappers watering down the whiskey?  is he just old and out of touch with the times?  isnt change good?  Should that culture  limit itself to one thing, or should it be adaptive?

(my thoughts are: the more diverse the voices, the more diverse the product. Hip hop and all genres of music should be for all mankind, NOT just one group of people)

Use the "what's good for the goose is good for the gander" rule. If I said this same thing about African-American neuvo-riche "watering down" my yacht club, I'd get banned from here.

Mon dieu, Julian!

"Nouveau" - not "neuvo"

Also, "en" route, not "on" route.
I've commented on this several times. I can only use voice to text. It's spotty at best.

And your voice to text program defaults to Estonian?

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/neuvo
I don't know how these things work. I never claimed to be some sort of technology guru, go ask van smack about that. I'm a fashion and culture Guru.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: slappy on March 24, 2014, 04:20:57 pm
I'm a fashion and culture Guru.
Aka...
(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/17mrhckqxxywmjpg.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on March 24, 2014, 05:27:01 pm
"50 Incredibly Tough Albums for Extreme Listeners (http://flavorwire.com/434857/50-incredibly-tough-albums-for-extreme-listeners/view-all/)"

Oooohhhh!!! Look at this tough guy list...  ::)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on March 24, 2014, 06:15:31 pm
What a lazy list.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 25, 2014, 09:26:56 am
can't argue with his description of Death Grips ? No Love Deep Web

"An aural experience best approximated as being punched in the head repeatedly by an intimidatingly large man."
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 25, 2014, 09:59:43 am
If death grips actually show up for their own gigs
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on March 25, 2014, 10:14:49 am
Chris Ott is not a big St. Vincent fan. http://ask.fm/shallowrewards/answer/109645018719
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on March 25, 2014, 02:59:09 pm
This is fucking adorable: The Fall - band (https://www.facebook.com/thefallkc)  :D
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on March 25, 2014, 04:06:32 pm
Good article about the corporate media's cozy relationship with indie-rock and punk nowadays. Perfect Pussy was used as an example but that's just one of dozens. http://adhoc.fm/post/consensus-perfect-pussy-say-yes-love/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on March 25, 2014, 05:57:52 pm
when i think st.vincent . . . i think good looking, talented, artist, smart, femme fatale.  when i think chris ott . . . i think, who in the fuck is that?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on March 25, 2014, 06:02:29 pm
Yeah I disagree too.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomic on March 25, 2014, 06:11:36 pm
when i think st.vincent . . . i think good looking, talented, artist, smart, femme fatale.  when i think chris ott . . . i think, who in the fuck is that?

When I think of St Vincent I think geez XMU overplays that lady.  I do like her first album.  Never heard of Chris Ott either. 

Edit:  Did a search on Chris Ott and nothing came up other than linked in links.  Who the f is he?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 25, 2014, 06:50:03 pm
http://www.smithsonianchannel.com/sc/web/show/3397952/blondies-new-york

Cool documentary on the recording of Blondie's Parallel Lines currently running on the Smithsonian Channel.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on March 25, 2014, 07:45:41 pm
This is fucking adorable: The Fall - band (https://www.facebook.com/thefallkc)  :D

And now they're deleting posts on their page that call them out (none by me).
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on March 25, 2014, 09:00:40 pm
when i think st.vincent . . . i think good looking, talented, artist, smart, femme fatale.  when i think chris ott . . . i think, who in the fuck is that?

When I think of St Vincent I think geez XMU overplays that lady.  I do like her first album.  Never heard of Chris Ott either. 

Edit:  Did a search on Chris Ott and nothing came up other than linked in links.  Who the f is he?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJvIi_GZo1c

Also used to write for Pitchfork and The Village Voice some time back.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on March 25, 2014, 09:04:08 pm
that hat . . . says it all.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hexenjagd on March 26, 2014, 01:25:52 pm
Good article about the corporate media's cozy relationship with indie-rock and punk nowadays. Perfect Pussy was used as an example but that's just one of dozens. http://adhoc.fm/post/consensus-perfect-pussy-say-yes-love/
vas what are your thoughts on Perfect Pussy? I forget...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Stillwater on March 26, 2014, 07:00:26 pm
This is fucking adorable: The Fall - band (https://www.facebook.com/thefallkc)  :D

And now they're deleting posts on their page that call them out (none by me).

Slappy Maxwell
You did not write 'Elastic Man'! The Great MES has a posse!
Change your name you cunts!


The Fall - band That worthless piece of Shit band hasn't been together for years.. so like I said fuck off Ass Hole
Like · Reply · 11 minutes ago

The Fall - band Fuck off Ass Hole!!!
Like · Reply · 13 minutes ago
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on March 26, 2014, 11:25:37 pm
http://springsteen.bandcamp.com/

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hexenjagd on March 27, 2014, 11:45:50 am
Are there two bands named the Fall?  Are they from different countries? 

Don't forget there are two Nirvanas...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nirvana_%28British_band%29
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on March 27, 2014, 12:57:11 pm
The British Fall have been around almost 40 years.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hexenjagd on March 27, 2014, 12:58:46 pm
OK. 

British Nirvana started in 1965, twenty plus years before Nirvana of Seattle started.

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hexenjagd on March 27, 2014, 01:00:59 pm
See also Bush:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_%28band%29

it depends on who owns the rights to the name and where.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on March 27, 2014, 01:12:25 pm
There's also Ceremony.



But The Fall are pretty much an institution at this point.

I have an excuse to put this here now. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05-ytS6ALLA)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: slappy on March 27, 2014, 04:12:56 pm
This is fucking adorable: The Fall - band (https://www.facebook.com/thefallkc)  :D

And now they're deleting posts on their page that call them out (none by me).

Slappy Maxwell
You did not write 'Elastic Man'! The Great MES has a posse!
Change your name you cunts!


The Fall - band That worthless piece of Shit band hasn't been together for years.. so like I said fuck off Ass Hole
Like · Reply · 11 minutes ago

The Fall - band Fuck off Ass Hole!!!
Like · Reply · 13 minutes ago

It took them a good 24 hours to figure out how to block me. It was fun while it lasted.

"The Fall - band March 13 · Edited
Our lead vocalist JD Davis somewhere in the backwoods of OKLAHOMA with a prize pig!
You can take the boy out the country....but you sure can't take the country out the boy!!"

Slappy Maxwell
I bet he swiped it from another hunter.
Like · Reply · 18 hours ago

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hexenjagd on March 27, 2014, 05:12:18 pm
http://springsteen.bandcamp.com/
I don't get why this one would be a problem.  Sure Bruce is called by his last name a lot, and sure he is the most famous of anyone with that name.  But, I don't see why a band cant call themselves Springsteen.  What about a band called Jackson?  or Dion?  Or Buckley?  Or Diamond?  Or Wilson?  Or Jagger?  Or Duff?  Or Simpson?  Or Spears?  or any last name?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on March 27, 2014, 05:19:09 pm
http://springsteen.bandcamp.com/
I don't get why this one would be a problem.  Sure Bruce is called by his last name a lot, and sure he is the most famous of anyone with that name.  But, I don't see why a band cant call themselves Springsteen.  What about a band called Jackson?  or Dion?  Or Buckley?  Or Diamond?  Or Wilson?  Or Jagger?  Or Duff?  Or Simpson?  Or Spears?  or any last name?

It's not a problem. I just thought it was funny. A friend of a friend is in that band. And the timing with this Fall thing was perfect.


Also, Springsteen did it on purpose because they also find it funny. "The Fall" just seem unaware of the existence of an established band with that name.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on March 27, 2014, 09:13:39 pm
http://springsteen.bandcamp.com/
I don't get why this one would be a problem.  Sure Bruce is called by his last name a lot, and sure he is the most famous of anyone with that name.  But, I don't see why a band cant call themselves Springsteen.  What about a band called Jackson?  or Dion?  Or Buckley?  Or Diamond?  Or Wilson?  Or Jagger?  Or Duff?  Or Simpson?  Or Spears?  or any last name?

"Bruce Springsteen" was trademarked only last year, but not simply "Springsteen". Anybody can try to trademark their name but it's difficult and expensive and it may be rejected anyway, especially if it's a common name or if there's little evidence of need. The KC Fall would probably be rejected, even if The Fall have never trademarked their name, because The Fall have had an extensive and substantial reach under that name. There is a trademark for "The Fall" but it's for a clothing line; it's okay because it's substantially different from the band's business.

Just now randomly playing: The Fall "Creep" (Peel session).
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: ggw on March 27, 2014, 09:58:07 pm
http://springsteen.bandcamp.com/
I don't get why this one would be a problem.  Sure Bruce is called by his last name a lot, and sure he is the most famous of anyone with that name.  But, I don't see why a band cant call themselves Springsteen.  What about a band called Jackson?  or Dion?  Or Buckley?  Or Diamond?  Or Wilson?  Or Jagger?  Or Duff?  Or Simpson?  Or Spears?  or any last name?

See "Handsome" Dick Manitoba vs. Caribou (fka Manitoba)

http://exclaim.ca/Features/OnTheCover/caribou-math_psychedelia_ass_named_handsome



Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on March 27, 2014, 10:04:48 pm
More locally, our boy Fico had a shitty warped tour band squat on their name Cartel until they'd pushed them outta that space. Changing to Cedars really seemed to stymie their momentum.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hexenjagd on March 27, 2014, 10:40:49 pm
Always add colors.

Black Springsteen

Yellow Cartel



Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on March 27, 2014, 10:42:42 pm
Pink Perfect Pussy


Hiyooooooooooooo!!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hexenjagd on March 27, 2014, 10:45:12 pm
I was thinking

Perfect Boy Pussy

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=x4iBBfEHNaE
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on March 27, 2014, 10:49:05 pm
Always add colors.

Black Springsteen

Yellow Cartel




His Cartel was first, though.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on March 27, 2014, 10:50:07 pm
Pink Perfect Pussy


Hiyooooooooooooo!!

Pink TacocaT
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on March 27, 2014, 10:59:37 pm
Dammit, kids, why can't you guys be more like this all the time? This is some quality posting!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on March 27, 2014, 11:00:04 pm
Pink taco cat, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on March 27, 2014, 11:11:38 pm
Band consisting of one male singer/4 women playing drums/guitar/bass/keys called Protruding Penis.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on March 28, 2014, 11:10:32 am
<a href="http://lacienegasmiled.tumblr.com/post/77598143356/as-jackson-couldnt-fluently-play-any-instruments:>Mind blown.[/url] I had no idea. Make sure you click on the "listen" link. 

As [Michael] Jackson couldn?t fluently play any instruments, he would sing and beatbox out how he wanted his songs to sound by himself on tape, layering the vocals, harmonies and rhythm before having instrumentalists come in to complete the songs...

We called in a guitar player, and Michael sang every note of every chord to him. ?here?s the first chord first note, second note, third note. Here?s the second chord first note, second note, third note?, etc., etc.

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on March 28, 2014, 11:22:34 am
Nice little interview with the guy who founded Hopscotch (http://www.bizjournals.com/triangle/blog/2014/03/a-chat-with-the-entrepreneur-behind-raleighs.html)


Lineup soon I guess!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on March 28, 2014, 12:55:22 pm
<a href="http://lacienegasmiled.tumblr.com/post/77598143356/as-jackson-couldnt-fluently-play-any-instruments:>Mind blown.[/url] I had no idea. Make sure you click on the "listen" link. 

As [Michael] Jackson couldn?t fluently play any instruments, he would sing and beatbox out how he wanted his songs to sound by himself on tape, layering the vocals, harmonies and rhythm before having instrumentalists come in to complete the songs...

We called in a guitar player, and Michael sang every note of every chord to him. ?here?s the first chord first note, second note, third note. Here?s the second chord first note, second note, third note?, etc., etc.



wow.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on March 28, 2014, 06:21:04 pm
but nows he dead because he was an out of control junkie . . . so theres that.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on March 28, 2014, 06:47:54 pm
but nows he dead because he was an out of control junkie . . . so theres that.


i think "junkie" is completely the wrong word walkie though maybe it makes you feel better to put him down that way....he took a lot of legally prescribed meds and obtained some precription meds through doctors that probably should not have written the scrips.......he wasn't really into illicit drugs... michael a coke or heroin junkie? not really although he probably tried everything in the culture of the 70s...

and what would his drug problems have to do with his musical talent anyways? why even bring it up?



Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on March 28, 2014, 07:08:11 pm
i love michael and love most, if not all of his songs.  i grew up on michael.  his videos are still, untouchable.  i had the stupid jacket as a kid.  i tried to dance like michael.  and yes, he was, a junkie.  in more ways, than just, drugs.  i brought it up, because drugs always ruin, the great ones.  sad.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on March 30, 2014, 05:52:29 pm
http://pitchfork.com/news/54568-the-flaming-lips-releasing-companion-album-to-pink-floyds-the-dark-side-of-the-moon/

i would love to have a honest mindful discussion about the flaming lips one day on here with some people who have such opinions about the flaming lips requiring words to express it.  i feel that they were (once) good, maybe even (twice) legendary, but somehow, now, they have devolved, into a thing that is more interested in gimmick over substance.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: chaz on April 01, 2014, 01:36:49 pm
This is fucking adorable: The Fall - band (https://www.facebook.com/thefallkc)  :D

And now they're deleting posts on their page that call them out (none by me).

Slappy Maxwell
You did not write 'Elastic Man'! The Great MES has a posse!
Change your name you cunts!


The Fall - band That worthless piece of Shit band hasn't been together for years.. so like I said fuck off Ass Hole
Like · Reply · 11 minutes ago

The Fall - band Fuck off Ass Hole!!!
Like · Reply · 13 minutes ago

It took them a good 24 hours to figure out how to block me. It was fun while it lasted.

"The Fall - band March 13 · Edited
Our lead vocalist JD Davis somewhere in the backwoods of OKLAHOMA with a prize pig!
You can take the boy out the country....but you sure can't take the country out the boy!!"

Slappy Maxwell
I bet he swiped it from another hunter.
Like · Reply · 18 hours ago


i'm enjoying trolling them
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on April 01, 2014, 01:41:29 pm
http://pitchfork.com/news/54568-the-flaming-lips-releasing-companion-album-to-pink-floyds-the-dark-side-of-the-moon/

i would love to have a honest mindful discussion about the flaming lips one day on here with some people who have such opinions about the flaming lips requiring words to express it.  i feel that they were (once) good, maybe even (twice) legendary, but somehow, now, they have devolved, into a thing that is more interested in gimmick over substance.

in the words of my friend Hutch, they're done!!!!!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on April 01, 2014, 01:48:03 pm
This is fucking adorable: The Fall - band (https://www.facebook.com/thefallkc)  :D

And now they're deleting posts on their page that call them out (none by me).

Slappy Maxwell
You did not write 'Elastic Man'! The Great MES has a posse!
Change your name you cunts!


The Fall - band That worthless piece of Shit band hasn't been together for years.. so like I said fuck off Ass Hole
Like · Reply · 11 minutes ago

The Fall - band Fuck off Ass Hole!!!
Like · Reply · 13 minutes ago

It took them a good 24 hours to figure out how to block me. It was fun while it lasted.

"The Fall - band March 13 · Edited
Our lead vocalist JD Davis somewhere in the backwoods of OKLAHOMA with a prize pig!
You can take the boy out the country....but you sure can't take the country out the boy!!"

Slappy Maxwell
I bet he swiped it from another hunter.
Like · Reply · 18 hours ago


i'm enjoying trolling them


It's funny that they say that they've tried to contact The Fall but so far no success. No reply is necessary; the problem will take care of itself. These guys might get a few gigs around KC but nowhere else. They would probably have trouble getting recordings pressed, and none of the digital services will take them with that name. If they're at all serious they'll change their name soon.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomic on April 01, 2014, 03:19:50 pm
This is fucking adorable: The Fall - band (https://www.facebook.com/thefallkc)  :D

And now they're deleting posts on their page that call them out (none by me).

Slappy Maxwell
You did not write 'Elastic Man'! The Great MES has a posse!
Change your name you cunts!


The Fall - band That worthless piece of Shit band hasn't been together for years.. so like I said fuck off Ass Hole
Like · Reply · 11 minutes ago

The Fall - band Fuck off Ass Hole!!!
Like · Reply · 13 minutes ago

It took them a good 24 hours to figure out how to block me. It was fun while it lasted.

"The Fall - band March 13 · Edited
Our lead vocalist JD Davis somewhere in the backwoods of OKLAHOMA with a prize pig!
You can take the boy out the country....but you sure can't take the country out the boy!!"

Slappy Maxwell
I bet he swiped it from another hunter.
Like · Reply · 18 hours ago


i'm enjoying trolling them


It's funny that they say that they've tried to contact The Fall but so far no success. No reply is necessary; the problem will take care of itself. These guys might get a few gigs around KC but nowhere else. They would probably have trouble getting recordings pressed, and none of the digital services will take them with that name. If they're at all serious they'll change their name soon.

There is a band called the Fall without Mark E. Smith in it?  Is Brix Smith in the band? If not they need to change the name.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on April 01, 2014, 06:52:12 pm
http://pitchfork.com/news/54568-the-flaming-lips-releasing-companion-album-to-pink-floyds-the-dark-side-of-the-moon/

i would love to have a honest mindful discussion about the flaming lips one day on here with some people who have such opinions about the flaming lips requiring words to express it.  i feel that they were (once) good, maybe even (twice) legendary, but somehow, now, they have devolved, into a thing that is more interested in gimmick over substance.

in the words of my friend Hutch, they're done!!!!!

It would appear it's part of elaborate prank that a bunch of music sites fell for.  It was released on Funny Or Die today.

 http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/c7562ab266/flaming-side-of-the-moon-studio-session

And Fred Armisen joining the flaming lips is pretty funny...

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/a5c3a11daa/fred-armisen-joins-the-flaming-lips
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on April 02, 2014, 01:39:00 pm
men in lipstick, will yell at you

http://pitchfork.com/news/54626-the-cures-robert-smith-rips-into-sad-bitter-guardian-critic-with-lengthy-all-caps-screeds/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 02, 2014, 10:48:52 pm
might want to catch this next  trilogy tour (http://pitchfork.com/news/53815-the-cure-plan-new-record-live-dvds-another-album-trilogy-tour/)
This one will feature The Top, The Head on the Door, and Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on April 03, 2014, 08:06:19 am
might want to catch this next  trilogy tour (http://pitchfork.com/news/53815-the-cure-plan-new-record-live-dvds-another-album-trilogy-tour/)
This one will feature The Top, The Head on the Door, and Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me.

Might??


Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomic on April 03, 2014, 10:31:20 am
might want to catch this next  trilogy tour (http://pitchfork.com/news/53815-the-cure-plan-new-record-live-dvds-another-album-trilogy-tour/)
This one will feature The Top, The Head on the Door, and Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me.

Oh my favorite three albums by them. 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 03, 2014, 11:35:46 am
might want to catch this next  trilogy tour (http://pitchfork.com/news/53815-the-cure-plan-new-record-live-dvds-another-album-trilogy-tour/)
This one will feature The Top, The Head on the Door, and Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me.

Might??

Ok most certainly, but they will probably play the LUBE and I won't want to go
last time I saw them was Disintegration
Then there was the time....that Hutch bought tickets to see them at the Nissan in the 90's and forgot about it until the next day!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on April 03, 2014, 04:55:36 pm
might want to catch this next  trilogy tour (http://pitchfork.com/news/53815-the-cure-plan-new-record-live-dvds-another-album-trilogy-tour/)
This one will feature The Top, The Head on the Door, and Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me.

Might??

Ok most certainly, but they will probably play the LUBE and I won't want to go
last time I saw them was Disintegration
Then there was the time....that Hutch bought tickets to see them at the Nissan in the 90's and forgot about it until the next day!

wasn't that patriot center?..

yah..way the fuck embarassing....still haven't seen them....

robert smith sounds phenomenal.. he's got some of the old classic band members back.... and he'll play a four hour show about 45 songs

to me it sounds like a must see..

note last time cure played area it was MPP as part of i think curiosa so i don't see them playing the lube.... i think they would go through IMP and do MPP again
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on April 03, 2014, 05:04:53 pm
note last time cure played area it was MPP

last time played MPP was 2004.... played Patriot Center 2008.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on April 03, 2014, 05:05:57 pm
i love shows at patriot . . . i dont know why, but i do.  loved white stripes, beck, cure, furthur.  so easy to get into and out of.  plus i can stop at that dennys on the way out.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomic on April 03, 2014, 05:34:21 pm
note last time cure played area it was MPP

last time played MPP was 2004.... played Patriot Center 2008.

They played MPP in 1986.  The third time I saw them. 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on April 03, 2014, 05:34:50 pm
note last time cure played area it was MPP

last time played MPP was 2004.... played Patriot Center 2008.

I stand corrected...thats how little i been paying attention to the Cure..


but these Trilogy shows  some even with tolhurst and i don't know who else are interesting to me...nostalgia i guess

they are playing 4 hour plus shows its crazy....
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on April 03, 2014, 05:38:18 pm
i love shows at patriot . . . i dont know why, but i do.  loved white stripes, beck, cure, furthur.  so easy to get into and out of.  plus i can stop at that dennys on the way out.

if the reason you love a venue is cause of how far its from your home/convenient to get to or hate a venue is cause its far i think you should just keep your thoughts to yourself cause they have nothing to say to anybody else.

the ottobar is a bitch for me to get to....doesn't mean its not great... what a nice place to see a band... friendly staff, cheap beer, easy as pie parking...the kind of place you meet the band after the show in the lot right next to it...

the patriot center is close to me..doesnt mean the sound doesn't usually suck.. or that it isn't a colorless place with zero personality...talk about a boring venue..not to mention campus security always fun...

objectivty. try it.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on April 03, 2014, 05:48:51 pm
if the reason you love a venue is cause of how far its from your home/convenient to get to or hate a venue is cause its far i think you should just keep your thoughts to yourself cause they have nothing to say to anybody else.

...

objectivty. try it.
Says the guy who is famous for ranting about "natural DC shows" in response to a concert he wanted to attend skipping his town...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on April 03, 2014, 06:31:14 pm
i love shows at patriot . . . i dont know why, but i do.  loved white stripes, beck, cure, furthur.  so easy to get into and out of.  plus i can stop at that dennys on the way out.

if the reason you love a venue is cause of how far its from your home/convenient to get to or hate a venue is cause its far i think you should just keep your thoughts to yourself cause they have nothing to say to anybody else.

the ottobar is a bitch for me to get to....doesn't mean its not great... what a nice place to see a band... friendly staff, cheap beer, easy as pie parking...the kind of place you meet the band after the show in the lot right next to it...

the patriot center is close to me..doesnt mean the sound doesn't usually suck.. or that it isn't a colorless place with zero personality...talk about a boring venue..not to mention campus security always fun...

objectivty. try it.

that car really knocked the hate into you . . . though I feel it was already there.  enjoy, the quiet things in life.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on April 03, 2014, 07:22:19 pm
i love shows at patriot . . . i dont know why, but i do.  loved white stripes, beck, cure, furthur.  so easy to get into and out of.  plus i can stop at that dennys on the way out.

if the reason you love a venue is cause of how far its from your home/convenient to get to or hate a venue is cause its far i think you should just keep your thoughts to yourself cause they have nothing to say to anybody else.

the ottobar is a bitch for me to get to....doesn't mean its not great... what a nice place to see a band... friendly staff, cheap beer, easy as pie parking...the kind of place you meet the band after the show in the lot right next to it...

the patriot center is close to me..doesnt mean the sound doesn't usually suck.. or that it isn't a colorless place with zero personality...talk about a boring venue..not to mention campus security always fun...

objectivty. try it.

that car really knocked the hate into you . . . though I feel it was already there.  enjoy, the quiet things in life.

I'm back baby! Get used to it.

 ;D

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on April 03, 2014, 07:26:28 pm
I mean WTF? The Ottobar sucks because it happens to be in Baltimore but Patriot Center is great cause there is a Dennys somewhere where you can get their shit food?

You ever even been to the Patriot Center? You have to go to a special designated place to get a wrist band by some campus securitit/staff to get a wrist band even to get a beer... yeah , very rock and roll..

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on April 03, 2014, 07:42:26 pm
the milkshakes at dennys, are great.  you obviously, are lactose racist.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on April 03, 2014, 08:00:38 pm
the milkshakes at dennys, are great.  you obviously, are lactose racist.


that is true....i cannot deny that...sorry.

I don't think I have ever had a milkshake.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on April 03, 2014, 10:19:40 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGL2rytTraA
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomic on April 04, 2014, 09:30:12 am
I mean WTF? The Ottobar sucks because it happens to be in Baltimore but Patriot Center is great cause there is a Dennys somewhere where you can get their shit food?

You ever even been to the Patriot Center? You have to go to a special designated place to get a wrist band by some campus securitit/staff to get a wrist band even to get a beer... yeah , very rock and roll..




You complain too much about venues.  But the closer a venue is to my house the better the venue.  Ottobar is the closest so it is the best. If the 930 club moved to Baltimore it woudl improve 100 percent in my opinion.  My main complaint about the Patriot Center is its location.  I have only been to one show there in the last 10 years (Sigur Ros) as it is just too far of a drive.  It sucks unless there is someone incredible there that I have never seen before I won't be attending. 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on April 04, 2014, 06:51:52 pm
http://pitchfork.com/thepitch/289-where-you-stand-at-a-show-and-what-it-says-about-you/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on April 05, 2014, 07:47:26 am
You know that every artists covering every other artists thing going on right now?  Considered it over...


http://www.stereogum.com/1673689/lives-ed-kowalczyk-is-still-around-and-hes-covering-imagine-dragons/video/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hexenjagd on April 05, 2014, 12:45:25 pm
http://pitchfork.com/thepitch/289-where-you-stand-at-a-show-and-what-it-says-about-you/
that was stupid
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on April 05, 2014, 10:15:47 pm
"I once accidentally downloaded a Lumineers song. I had to throw away my computer to be safe" - Tom Haverford
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomic on April 06, 2014, 12:35:08 am
"I once accidentally downloaded a Lumineers song. I had to throw away my computer to be safe" - Tom Haverford

You are quoting a fictional character.  The guy likes Kanye West in real life.  You don't get much worse taste in music.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on April 07, 2014, 12:18:09 am
Buy the copyrights of this song! (http://www.ebay.com/itm/MUSIC-COPYRIGHTS-FOR-SALE-1-/131155037602?pt=Music_Other_Formats&hash=item1e89730da2)

Only $26,000!  :D
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on April 07, 2014, 12:21:34 am
Buy the copyrights of this song! (http://www.ebay.com/itm/MUSIC-COPYRIGHTS-FOR-SALE-1-/131155037602?pt=Music_Other_Formats&hash=item1e89730da2)

Only $26,000!  :D
Sorry, not interested. I'm only interested in purchasing the rights to Your Song by Elton John, as the song foretold!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on April 07, 2014, 09:06:09 am
"I once accidentally downloaded a Lumineers song. I had to throw away my computer to be safe" - Tom Haverford

You are quoting a fictional character.  The guy likes Kanye West in real life.  You don't get much worse taste in music.

You are a fictional character.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on April 07, 2014, 11:12:02 am
"I once accidentally downloaded a Lumineers song. I had to throw away my computer to be safe" - Tom Haverford

You are quoting a fictional character.  The guy likes Kanye West in real life.  You don't get much worse taste in music.

You are a fictional character.


This
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on April 07, 2014, 03:20:23 pm
http://www.ebay.com/itm/111319809947
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on April 09, 2014, 06:17:36 pm
https://music.yahoo.com/blogs/music-news/looks-joan-jett-join-nirvana-onstage-rock-roll-174207037.html

joan jett, becomes nirvana
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on April 09, 2014, 08:04:49 pm
https://music.yahoo.com/blogs/music-news/looks-joan-jett-join-nirvana-onstage-rock-roll-174207037.html

joan jett, becomes nirvana

I don't get why they call grohl/novolesic (sic) nirvana...

there is no nirvana without kurt cobain
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on April 09, 2014, 08:59:28 pm
what should they call themselves . . . cinnabon?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on April 09, 2014, 09:04:10 pm
what should they call themselves . . . cinnabon?
don't be ridiculous... They should call themselves Sbarro.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on April 09, 2014, 10:19:40 pm
Joan Jett and The Black Hearts 2.0
Or Davie and the Jetts.

what should they call themselves . . . cinnabon?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on April 09, 2014, 10:30:05 pm
OMG so obvious!

Joan Jett's Black Heart Shaped Box.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on April 10, 2014, 01:05:39 am
https://music.yahoo.com/blogs/music-news/looks-joan-jett-join-nirvana-onstage-rock-roll-174207037.html

joan jett, becomes nirvana

I don't get why they call grohl/novolesic (sic) nirvana...

there is no nirvana without kurt cobain
because "nirvana" is being inducted into the hof and dave and krist (and pat) are the surviving members

obviously without kurt there was no nirvana but they werent a one man show
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on April 10, 2014, 07:45:56 am
is Pat Smear getting in??? That would be awesome....


Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomic on April 10, 2014, 10:30:35 am
is Pat Smear getting in??? That would be awesome....




Why would that be awesome.  More like stupid.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on April 10, 2014, 11:10:07 am
is Pat Smear getting in??? That would be awesome....



i dont think so, which i dont agree with. when the band ended he was an official member

chad channing was supposed to go in but then gene simmons threw a hissy fit and the hof folks changed their mind

would have been cool to see pat (and dale crover, now that i think about it) inducted but oh well
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomic on April 10, 2014, 11:13:39 am
Anyway why is Nirvana in already?  What about the Cure and Depeche Mode?  They pre-date Nirvana by quite a bit and are much better bands with much bigger catalogs.  Rock n Roll of fame is a joke.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomic on April 10, 2014, 11:21:28 am
Wait look at all these acts that aren't in: T-Rex, ELO, Duran Duran, Carpenters, Harry Nillson, The Jam, The Smiths, Jim Croce, The Monkees, Roxy Music, Siouxsie and the Banshees, B-52's.

Looks like the skipped every band from the 80's from the UK.  Yet this year they have Linda Rondstadt and Peter Gabriel???? 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on April 10, 2014, 11:47:46 pm


It took them a good 24 hours to figure out how to block me. It was fun while it lasted.

"The Fall - band March 13 · Edited
Our lead vocalist JD Davis somewhere in the backwoods of OKLAHOMA with a prize pig!
You can take the boy out the country....but you sure can't take the country out the boy!!"

Slappy Maxwell
I bet he swiped it from another hunter.
Like · Reply · 18 hours ago


i'm enjoying trolling them


It's funny that they say that they've tried to contact The Fall but so far no success. No reply is necessary; the problem will take care of itself. These guys might get a few gigs around KC but nowhere else. They would probably have trouble getting recordings pressed, and none of the digital services will take them with that name. If they're at all serious they'll change their name soon.

Change has come. (https://www.facebook.com/thefallkc)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hexenjagd on April 11, 2014, 01:17:08 pm
Why do you all care who is inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame?  Does it really matter? 

Wait - you are the same lot who think they can do a better job running baseball teams and picking Oscar winners; never mind - carry on.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomic on April 11, 2014, 01:20:42 pm
Why do you all care who is inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame?  Does it really matter? 

Wait - you are the same lot who think they can do a better job running baseball teams and picking Oscar winners; never mind - carry on.

At least we dont' care who wins a make believe wrestling match.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hexenjagd on April 11, 2014, 01:30:08 pm
OOOOHHHH BURN

Do you not watch movies?  Do you not cheer for the hero?  Hope he survives and saves the day? 

GASP

It is SCRIPTED as well.

OMG - Entertainment
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomic on April 11, 2014, 01:33:29 pm
OOOOHHHH BURN

Do you not watch movies?  Do you not cheer for the hero?  Hope he survives and saves the day? 

GASP

It is SCRIPTED as well.

OMG - Entertainment

I don't watch action movies.  I would rate wrestling below that.   
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on April 11, 2014, 01:42:57 pm
Wait - you are the same lot who think they can do a better job running baseball teams ... ; never mind - carry on.
This is actually a fantastic burn but you didn't direct it at the right poster. Still awesome.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomic on April 11, 2014, 01:46:20 pm
Wait - you are the same lot who think they can do a better job running baseball teams ... ; never mind - carry on.
This is actually a fantastic burn but you didn't direct it at the right poster. Still awesome.

It might be a fantastic burn if the poster didn't drive to New Orleans to watch a wrestling match. 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hexenjagd on April 11, 2014, 03:14:48 pm
Atomic, why are you obsessed with what I enjoy?

Now back on topic... What is this?
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/bestofdc/poll/artsandentertainment/2014/best-place-to-see-local-music

People voted 930 Club on Washington City paper as... Best place to see local music?  It deserves the best music venue spot, but best place to see local music?  I am not being a hater, just being real.  Look at the list of bands that are playing the 930 Club over the next few months.  The most "local" it gets are a couple from Baltimore, the rest are from anywhere else.  Maybe the people who voted didn't understand the category.  930 Club does host local bands every now and then, but still.  I am surprised it wasn't voted "best outdoors venue."
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on April 11, 2014, 03:17:41 pm
People voted 930 Club on Washington City paper as... Best place to see local music?  It deserves the best music venue spot, but best place to see local music?  I am not being a hater, just being real.  Look at the list of bands that are playing the 930 Club over the next few months.  The most "local" it gets are a couple from Baltimore, the rest are from anywhere else.  Maybe the people who voted didn't understand the category.  930 Club does host local bands every now and then, but still.
that is funny. A few years back here in Richmond, Style Weekly did their annual poll and The National won best large venue, best small venue, and best venue to see local music. I chalk it up to being the only venue people who lived out the suburbs could name.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on April 11, 2014, 04:07:19 pm
i think the club also wins the cutest owner, award, as well . . . or maybe that in my dreamed award ceremony with finger sandwiches and punch, thread.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on April 11, 2014, 04:09:50 pm
i think the club also wins the cutest owner, award, as well . . . or maybe that in my dreamed award ceremony with finger sandwiches and punch, thread.

(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k168/mitchell1533/Mad%20Max/bvbv.jpg)

oh hai.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on April 11, 2014, 04:45:23 pm
That "best place to see local music" result is laughable. Julian might be onto something.


Staff picks are great, though. Especially "best overlooked jazz elder." I've known Aaron for a good while. Always a pleasure to hear play and talk to.


http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/bestofdc/artsandentertainment/2014/best-overlooked-jazz-elder
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on April 12, 2014, 12:39:09 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BlCD7PQCUAA5xSc.jpg:large)

trey sitting in with allman brothers band, at wanne festival.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on April 12, 2014, 12:42:57 pm
sufjan, does a ballet

http://www.vulture.com/2014/04/justin-peck-sufjan-stevens-ballet.html?mid=twitter_vulture
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on April 13, 2014, 07:17:31 pm
Woah Detroit Cobras came out of hibernation and out touring again, sadly nothing as close as Philly so far.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Vas Deferens on April 14, 2014, 08:54:12 am
^ that was January 2014.....or did they announce another Philly date?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on April 14, 2014, 09:02:25 am
so i like pitchfork on facebook . . . and i had a delightful time watching full sets of coachella acts, such as

beck

http://pitchfork.com/news/54771-beck-plays-coachella-full-set-video/

future islands

http://pitchfork.com/news/54766-future-islands-hit-coachella-full-set-video/

queens of teh stone age

http://pitchfork.com/news/54765-queens-of-the-stone-age-run-through-hits-at-coachella-full-set-video/

pharrell

http://pitchfork.com/news/54763-pharrells-coachella-set-loaded-with-guests-snoop-dogg-tyler-the-creator-busta-diplo-gwen-stefani/

haim

http://pitchfork.com/news/54753-haim-rock-coachella-full-set-video/

outkast

http://pitchfork.com/news/54751-outkast-bring-out-janelle-monae-and-future-at-coachella/

lorde

http://pitchfork.com/news/54764-lorde-hits-coachella-full-set-video/

nas

http://pitchfork.com/news/54762-nas-joined-by-jay-z-and-diddy-at-coachella-full-set-video/

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on April 14, 2014, 09:33:19 am
^ that was January 2014.....or did they announce another Philly date?

I was skimming through the dates posted on their facebook page and got their upcoming spring tour mixed up with their brief run in the north east in January.  Sure hope they can play in the area soon...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on April 14, 2014, 07:42:14 pm
and another

arcade fire

http://pitchfork.com/news/54769-arcade-fire-close-out-coachella-with-set-featuring-blondies-debbie-harry/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on April 14, 2014, 07:56:48 pm
http://m.noisey.vice.com/blog/nirvana-saint-vitus-april-10-2014-review

joan jett and j as kurt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=092bFcVqT5s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOI4rKvdrDQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkNmPWZijKk&list=UUGACMBdjlTIqNpA2oxOSboQ
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 14, 2014, 09:52:35 pm
Woah Detroit Cobras came out of hibernation and out touring again, sadly nothing as close as Philly so far.
please keep us posted if you hear any thing as I'd love to see them again, caught them at Iota years ago.
They came to SF a bunch of times, but they would play the bottom of the hill and sell out and I kept missing them

Maybe a kickstarter campaign  ::)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on April 16, 2014, 04:16:29 pm
Melissa Etheridge likes Diarrhea Planet. (https://twitter.com/metheridge/status/456521018614370304)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on April 16, 2014, 04:19:58 pm
Melissa Etheridge likes Diarrhea Planet. (https://twitter.com/metheridge/status/456521018614370304)


Pretty sure they played some covers together at SXSW as well.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: ggw on April 16, 2014, 04:58:32 pm
Melissa Etheridge likes Diarrhea Planet. (https://twitter.com/metheridge/status/456521018614370304)


She also chose David Crosby as a sperm donor, so her track record's a little suspect.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on April 16, 2014, 05:27:58 pm
Melissa Etheridge likes Diarrhea Planet. (https://twitter.com/metheridge/status/456521018614370304)


She also chose David Crosby as a sperm donor, so her track record's a little suspect.
This is true.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: slappy on April 21, 2014, 02:48:31 pm
Record Store day is for lemmings, man.
I need an earthy sound for my listening pleasure.
VU on maple!
- DJ Splinter
http://www.instructables.com/id/Laser-Cut-Record/ (http://www.instructables.com/id/Laser-Cut-Record/)

(http://cdn.instructables.com/FCJ/IU8F/HLJUXJDU/FCJIU8FHLJUXJDU.MEDIUM.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: ggw on April 21, 2014, 03:23:28 pm
I prefer the warmer tones of a larch or a sweetgum.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on April 21, 2014, 04:15:48 pm
Woah Detroit Cobras came out of hibernation and out touring again, sadly nothing as close as Philly so far.
please keep us posted if you hear any thing as I'd love to see them again, caught them at Iota years ago.
They came to SF a bunch of times, but they would play the bottom of the hill and sell out and I kept missing them

Maybe a kickstarter campaign  ::)

the cobras are a dead band.. in fact they were never a band..they are two women and whoever they pick

they never got even close to the second album in terms of quality...i think its called life , love and leaving

they had a good following at their black cat shows but then they just stopped playing..

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hexenjagd on April 21, 2014, 07:30:43 pm
http://www.vox.com/2014/4/19/5626058/vinyls-great-but-its-not-better-than-cds

Interesting article on format quality.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on April 22, 2014, 11:15:51 am
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/04/22/burning-man-organizer-plans-anything-goes-bundyfest-to-mock-scofflaw-rancher/

well . . . this just got a lot more, interesting
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on April 22, 2014, 11:49:23 am
Has Ratbastard left to join that Bundy guy's cult yet?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on April 23, 2014, 01:39:10 pm
Wow this Liv Warfield album is really good...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on April 23, 2014, 08:28:06 pm
The D.C. Punk and Indie Fanzine Collection (http://hdl.handle.net/1903.1/26175)

Abstract

Title: D.C. Punk and Indie Fanzine Collection, The
Author/Creator: D.C. Punk and Indie Fanzine Collection, The
Collection number: 14-91-DCPIFC
Bulk dates: 1994-1995
Inclusive dates: 1979-2012
Collection Area: Special Collections in Performing Arts
Repository: Special Collections in Performing Arts, Michelle Smith Performing Arts Library, Clarice Smith Performing Arts Center, University of Maryland, College Park, MD 20742.
Contact the curator: http://www.lib.umd.edu/scpa/contact

Abstract:
The Washington, D.C. Punk and Indie Fanzine Collection (DCPIFC) seeks to document the variety of publications that were created by fans of and participants in the punk and indie music scenes that have thrived in the Washington, D.C.-area since the late 1970s. The DCPIFC contains fanzines - publications produced by enthusiasts, generally in small runs - created by members of the D.C. punk and indie music communities, as well as fanzines from outside of D.C. that include coverage of D.C. punk and indie music. The collection includes primarily paper fanzines, but it also includes born digital fanzines and digitized PDFs of some paper fanzine materials.

cont.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: K8teebug on April 24, 2014, 08:03:13 am
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/04/22/burning-man-organizer-plans-anything-goes-bundyfest-to-mock-scofflaw-rancher/

well . . . this just got a lot more, interesting

I went to the great went, where they had enough bathrooms for 25,000 people and there were 75,000 people there.  It was the most horrible experience.  I cannot even imagine what that place will look like after a day....gross.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on April 24, 2014, 09:03:06 am
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/04/22/burning-man-organizer-plans-anything-goes-bundyfest-to-mock-scofflaw-rancher/

well . . . this just got a lot more, interesting

I went to the great went, where they had enough bathrooms for 25,000 people and there were 75,000 people there.  It was the most horrible experience.  I cannot even imagine what that place will look like after a day....gross.

More evidence for the need of a poop tent.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on May 02, 2014, 12:39:26 pm
Jenn Pelly is a great interviewer but Courtney Love is a tedious interview. (http://pitchfork.com/features/interviews/9395-courtney-love/)

P.S. Courtney Love is a Wolf Eyes fan.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: slappy on May 05, 2014, 01:36:54 pm
The group of 'country musicians' that named themselves The Fall have given in and are now called Bandana.

Now they must fight with these doods http://www.bandanaband.com/ (http://www.bandanaband.com/) for the Bandana name before their lead singer decides to quit and join Gravy Antebellum, a Lady Antebellum tribute band.

Bein' in a band is hard.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hexenjagd on May 06, 2014, 04:09:47 pm
The Gold Bar just announced they are closing...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on May 07, 2014, 08:17:59 pm
http://gawker.com/an-enterprising-band-made-20-000-scamming-spotify-1573217228
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on May 07, 2014, 09:42:11 pm
http://gawker.com/an-enterprising-band-made-20-000-scamming-spotify-1573217228

Hutch'd
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 08, 2014, 09:58:47 am
http://gawker.com/an-enterprising-band-made-20-000-scamming-spotify-1573217228

Hmm...don't we think we could do something like this too?
I mean I'm sure that Spotify is on to this now....but what a great way to raise a few thousand bucks
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on May 08, 2014, 10:03:43 am
http://gawker.com/an-enterprising-band-made-20-000-scamming-spotify-1573217228

Hmm...don't we think we could do something like this too?
I mean I'm sure that Spotify is on to this now....but what a great way to raise a few thousand bucks

I read something else about bands putting out songs that were the same name as popular songs in hopes of getting a lot of streams.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hexenjagd on May 12, 2014, 01:28:14 pm
(https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/10250196_10152423546108817_2271965307059012982_n.jpg)

This venn diagram explains everything.

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on May 13, 2014, 10:03:45 am
http://www.newsweek.com/coming-clean-gene-ween-weens-former-frontman-talks-sobriety-and-miley-cyrus-250774
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on May 13, 2014, 10:07:00 am
Good Priests profile piece (http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/style/wp/2014/05/12/noise-and-sweat-and-marx-and-chipotle-d-c-s-priests-redefine-punk-for-2014/)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hexenjagd on May 13, 2014, 03:45:25 pm
(https://scontent-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1.0-9/10364081_10152167371291633_5477769911656545095_n.jpg)
Expanded to include Dan Deacon and rainbow rock...

I just realized only probably Azag would find this funny.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 14, 2014, 12:14:06 pm
wouldn't he have a hard time seeing the graphic?

...edit
oooh...just broke 500!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 14, 2014, 12:48:11 pm
Frank Turner somehow get's in to an online squabble about radiohead
but his response (http://www.gigwise.com/news/90981/frank-turner-on-radiohead-comments-they-can-play-what-they-want) is solid
Think it's lame when bands don't play some of the fans favorite songs while on tour
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on May 14, 2014, 12:56:22 pm
Frank Turner somehow get's in to an online squabble about radiohead
but his response (http://www.gigwise.com/news/90981/frank-turner-on-radiohead-comments-they-can-play-what-they-want) is solid
Think it's lame when bands don't play some of the fans favorite songs while on tour

I can't think of many Radiohead fans that would actually want to hear Creep.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on May 14, 2014, 06:55:57 pm
(https://scontent-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1.0-9/10364081_10152167371291633_5477769911656545095_n.jpg)
Expanded to include Dan Deacon and rainbow rock...

I just realized only probably Azag would find this funny.

Azag is blind dude. for christ's sake.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on May 14, 2014, 07:00:00 pm
Frank Turner somehow get's in to an online squabble about radiohead
but his response (http://www.gigwise.com/news/90981/frank-turner-on-radiohead-comments-they-can-play-what-they-want) is solid
Think it's lame when bands don't play some of the fans favorite songs while on tour

I can't think of many Radiohead fans that would actually want to hear Creep.

exactly...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomic on May 14, 2014, 07:02:29 pm
Frank Turner somehow get's in to an online squabble about radiohead
but his response (http://www.gigwise.com/news/90981/frank-turner-on-radiohead-comments-they-can-play-what-they-want) is solid
Think it's lame when bands don't play some of the fans favorite songs while on tour

I can't think of many Radiohead fans that would actually want to hear Creep.

exactly...

Why?  When I saw them I wanted to hear Creep but instead they played a bunch of lame songs.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on May 14, 2014, 07:15:27 pm
Frank Turner somehow get's in to an online squabble about radiohead
but his response (http://www.gigwise.com/news/90981/frank-turner-on-radiohead-comments-they-can-play-what-they-want) is solid
Think it's lame when bands don't play some of the fans favorite songs while on tour

I can't think of many Radiohead fans that would actually want to hear Creep.

exactly...

Why?  When I saw them I wanted to hear Creep but instead they played a bunch of lame songs.

I rest my case
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on May 14, 2014, 08:20:25 pm
Frank Turner somehow get's in to an online squabble about radiohead
but his response (http://www.gigwise.com/news/90981/frank-turner-on-radiohead-comments-they-can-play-what-they-want) is solid
Think it's lame when bands don't play some of the fans favorite songs while on tour

I can't think of many Radiohead fans that would actually want to hear Creep.

exactly...

Why?  When I saw them I wanted to hear Creep but instead they played a bunch of lame songs.

I rest my case

A+. Atomic's null and void opinion lives on.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: stevewizzle on May 15, 2014, 12:30:55 am
forum at it's very best right here.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomic on May 15, 2014, 11:40:06 am
Frank Turner somehow get's in to an online squabble about radiohead
but his response (http://www.gigwise.com/news/90981/frank-turner-on-radiohead-comments-they-can-play-what-they-want) is solid
Think it's lame when bands don't play some of the fans favorite songs while on tour

I can't think of many Radiohead fans that would actually want to hear Creep.

exactly...

Why?  When I saw them I wanted to hear Creep but instead they played a bunch of lame songs.

I rest my case

A+. Atomic's null and void opinion lives on.




They didn't play Fake Plastic Trees either.  Lame band.  And the crowd was full of bro's shoving into people.  They mostly played stuff from In Rainbows which is one of the worst albums of all time IMHO.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on May 15, 2014, 11:44:30 am
Frank Turner somehow get's in to an online squabble about radiohead
but his response (http://www.gigwise.com/news/90981/frank-turner-on-radiohead-comments-they-can-play-what-they-want) is solid
Think it's lame when bands don't play some of the fans favorite songs while on tour

I can't think of many Radiohead fans that would actually want to hear Creep.

exactly...

Why?  When I saw them I wanted to hear Creep but instead they played a bunch of lame songs.

I rest my case

A+. Atomic's null and void opinion lives on.




They didn't play Fake Plastic Trees either.  Lame band.  And the crowd was full of bro's shoving into people.  They mostly played stuff from In Rainbows which is one of the worst albums of all time IMHO.

you should've got a seat rather than standing with savages like hutch.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomic on May 15, 2014, 11:53:50 am
Frank Turner somehow get's in to an online squabble about radiohead
but his response (http://www.gigwise.com/news/90981/frank-turner-on-radiohead-comments-they-can-play-what-they-want) is solid
Think it's lame when bands don't play some of the fans favorite songs while on tour

I can't think of many Radiohead fans that would actually want to hear Creep.

exactly...

Why?  When I saw them I wanted to hear Creep but instead they played a bunch of lame songs.

I rest my case

A+. Atomic's null and void opinion lives on.




They didn't play Fake Plastic Trees either.  Lame band.  And the crowd was full of bro's shoving into people.  They mostly played stuff from In Rainbows which is one of the worst albums of all time IMHO.

you should've got a seat rather than standing with savages like hutch.

It was at a music festival that did not allow chairs.  Newport allows you to bring chairs which I think is nice.   You just get their early put your chair out and go about your business.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on May 15, 2014, 12:50:01 pm
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/dave-grohl-confirms-new-foo-fighters-album-details-hbo-doc-series-20140515
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on May 15, 2014, 12:54:28 pm
for yada . . . have a beer, and enjoy

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/flaming-lips-sgt-peppers-tribute-album-out-this-fall-20140515
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on May 15, 2014, 01:25:22 pm
You should put both of those links in one of the many threads about new albums...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on May 15, 2014, 01:29:31 pm
i shoulda, i coulda, but i didnta
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on May 27, 2014, 12:13:51 pm
Looking forward to this.

33 1/3: Psychocandy (http://333sound.com/2014/05/27/new-33-13-title-the-jesus-and-mary-chains-psychocandy/)

Also cool that a DC-based writer is writing it.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on May 31, 2014, 12:11:07 pm
http://pitchfork.com/news/55378-jack-white-slams-the-black-keys-suggests-once-again-that-theyve-ripped-off-his-sound/

do the black keys, rip off, the white stripes?  i dont know, i dont listen to the black keys.  they do have two members each, three words in their name, both starting with 'the', then a 'color', then a word which could describe the two sets of playable parts of a piano.  odd.  and both lead singers kids go to the same school.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on May 31, 2014, 12:15:54 pm
well, darn

http://pitchfork.com/news/55380-jack-white-apologizes-for-comments-about-meg-white-the-black-keys-lana-del-rey-adele/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: stevewizzle on May 31, 2014, 01:13:45 pm
i don't disagree with him.  i like there music, but when i saw those guys years back, it's like they were a blues rock cover band, never straying too far from the course.  you can tell the guys that it comes naturally, and for the black keys, that's not the case. those guys seem like they are very hardworking musicians, but they aren't creating anything original.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on June 01, 2014, 02:31:47 pm
I'd prefer to listen to the Black Keys for the rest of eternity than hear one note from Jack White.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on June 01, 2014, 02:49:29 pm
i don't disagree with him.  i like there music, but when i saw those guys years back, it's like they were a blues rock cover band, never straying too far from the course.  you can tell the guys that it comes naturally, and for the black keys, that's not the case. those guys seem like they are very hardworking musicians, but they aren't creating anything original.

I think it depends on what you're talking about.. I mean the early black keys albums are so stripped down....the lead singer dude sounds like paul rodgers of free/bad co on them... they've changed since..

the last few are almost "Dangermouse with the Black Keys" albums.... since I think Dangermouse is the best producer in the world right now its fine by me..

and Auerbach gets my thanks based alone on his production of Dr John's Locked Down..heck of an album

I find originality is a term often misapplied..... you can be original while working within established forms..... Are we saying if someone came out with an album as great as Back in Black but with different songs we wouldn't like it? It wouldn't be "original"?  The Hellacopters High Visibility is the greatest album Thin Lizzy never made..doesn't make it any less great..

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomic on June 01, 2014, 03:34:45 pm
http://pitchfork.com/news/55378-jack-white-slams-the-black-keys-suggests-once-again-that-theyve-ripped-off-his-sound/

do the black keys, rip off, the white stripes?  i dont know, i dont listen to the black keys.  they do have two members each, three words in their name, both starting with 'the', then a 'color', then a word which could describe the two sets of playable parts of a piano.  odd.  and both lead singers kids go to the same school.

Stating Lana Del Rey is ripping off Amy Winehouse is quite a stretch.  Could you imagine if the Beatles had spent all their time accusing people of ripping them off?  Sounds like he has some emotional problems.  I don't like the Black Keys so whatever but he needs to let it go. 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomic on June 01, 2014, 03:36:46 pm
i don't disagree with him.  i like there music, but when i saw those guys years back, it's like they were a blues rock cover band, never straying too far from the course.  you can tell the guys that it comes naturally, and for the black keys, that's not the case. those guys seem like they are very hardworking musicians, but they aren't creating anything original.

I think it depends on what you're talking about.. I mean the early black keys albums are so stripped down....the lead singer dude sounds like paul rodgers of free/bad co on them... they've changed since..

the last few are almost "Dangermouse with the Black Keys" albums.... since I think Dangermouse is the best producer in the world right now its fine by me..

and Auerbach gets my thanks based alone on his production of Dr John's Locked Down..heck of an album

I find originality is a term often misapplied..... you can be original while working within established forms..... Are we saying if someone came out with an album as great as Back in Black but with different songs we wouldn't like it? It wouldn't be "original"?  The Hellacopters High Visibility is the greatest album Thin Lizzy never made..doesn't make it any less great..



Do you mean as good as "back to black"?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: stevewizzle on June 01, 2014, 04:07:15 pm
i don't disagree with him.  i like there music, but when i saw those guys years back, it's like they were a blues rock cover band, never straying too far from the course.  you can tell the guys that it comes naturally, and for the black keys, that's not the case. those guys seem like they are very hardworking musicians, but they aren't creating anything original.

I think it depends on what you're talking about.. I mean the early black keys albums are so stripped down....the lead singer dude sounds like paul rodgers of free/bad co on them... they've changed since..

the last few are almost "Dangermouse with the Black Keys" albums.... since I think Dangermouse is the best producer in the world right now its fine by me..

and Auerbach gets my thanks based alone on his production of Dr John's Locked Down..heck of an album

I find originality is a term often misapplied..... you can be original while working within established forms..... Are we saying if someone came out with an album as great as Back in Black but with different songs we wouldn't like it? It wouldn't be "original"?  The Hellacopters High Visibility is the greatest album Thin Lizzy never made..doesn't make it any less great..

i guess they kind of fell off with me after attack and release, so i missed all the danger mouse produced music. originality maybe wasn't the right term. their "established form" just came off as a total replica. nothing new.  i feel like it's a 2-man novelty group, and i just expected them to feed off each other more live, and i never saw it happen.  and this was a band that had been playing together since 2001.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on June 01, 2014, 05:07:04 pm
i don't disagree with him.  i like there music, but when i saw those guys years back, it's like they were a blues rock cover band, never straying too far from the course.  you can tell the guys that it comes naturally, and for the black keys, that's not the case. those guys seem like they are very hardworking musicians, but they aren't creating anything original.

I think it depends on what you're talking about.. I mean the early black keys albums are so stripped down....the lead singer dude sounds like paul rodgers of free/bad co on them... they've changed since..

the last few are almost "Dangermouse with the Black Keys" albums.... since I think Dangermouse is the best producer in the world right now its fine by me..

and Auerbach gets my thanks based alone on his production of Dr John's Locked Down..heck of an album

I find originality is a term often misapplied..... you can be original while working within established forms..... Are we saying if someone came out with an album as great as Back in Black but with different songs we wouldn't like it? It wouldn't be "original"?  The Hellacopters High Visibility is the greatest album Thin Lizzy never made..doesn't make it any less great..

i guess they kind of fell off with me after attack and release, so i missed all the danger mouse produced music. originality maybe wasn't the right term. their "established form" just came off as a total replica. nothing new.  i feel like it's a 2-man novelty group, and i just expected them to feed off each other more live, and i never saw it happen.  and this was a band that had been playing together since 2001.

I lost interest with Magic Potion and Attack and Release, but the album Brothers was damn near perfect.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on June 01, 2014, 05:46:41 pm
So this is also pretty fucking cool.
33 1/3: The Raincoats - S/T  (http://333sound.com/2014/06/01/new-33-13-title-the-raincoats-the-raincoats/)

And a friend's writing it!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on June 01, 2014, 06:02:14 pm
i don't disagree with him.  i like there music, but when i saw those guys years back, it's like they were a blues rock cover band, never straying too far from the course.  you can tell the guys that it comes naturally, and for the black keys, that's not the case. those guys seem like they are very hardworking musicians, but they aren't creating anything original.

I think it depends on what you're talking about.. I mean the early black keys albums are so stripped down....the lead singer dude sounds like paul rodgers of free/bad co on them... they've changed since..

the last few are almost "Dangermouse with the Black Keys" albums.... since I think Dangermouse is the best producer in the world right now its fine by me..

and Auerbach gets my thanks based alone on his production of Dr John's Locked Down..heck of an album

I find originality is a term often misapplied..... you can be original while working within established forms..... Are we saying if someone came out with an album as great as Back in Black but with different songs we wouldn't like it? It wouldn't be "original"?  The Hellacopters High Visibility is the greatest album Thin Lizzy never made..doesn't make it any less great..

i guess they kind of fell off with me after attack and release, so i missed all the danger mouse produced music. originality maybe wasn't the right term. their "established form" just came off as a total replica. nothing new.  i feel like it's a 2-man novelty group, and i just expected them to feed off each other more live, and i never saw it happen.  and this was a band that had been playing together since 2001.

oh its totally changed... the latest album sounds more like Pink Floyd than anything else to me....mixed in with Dangermouse putting in that David Axelrod type phat bass everywhere... really Jack White has no case as of late....they've moved on from earlier when he did have some sorta case.. i mean you got a group called the white stripes..duo and then another duo comes along ...called the black keys....and they play the same rough loud bash a blues? but like i said they have totally moved on from that
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Post by: Hexenjagd on June 04, 2014, 12:08:28 pm
http://pitchfork.com/thepitch/354-baltimore-club/
Pitchfork article on the current state of Baltimore Club
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: James Ford on June 19, 2014, 01:42:27 pm
Does anybody listen to their old Public Enemy cd's/lp's/cassettes? Talk about a band whose music did not age well.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on June 19, 2014, 03:09:29 pm
i blame, professor griff
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Post by: Yada on June 19, 2014, 03:38:49 pm
Does anybody listen to their old Public Enemy cd's/lp's/cassettes? Talk about a band whose music did not age well.

In general, I've found that rap doesn't' age all too well.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on June 19, 2014, 03:55:07 pm
Does anybody listen to their old Public Enemy cd's/lp's/cassettes? Talk about a band whose music did not age well.

In general, I've found that rap doesn't' age all too well.


aint that the truth
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 19, 2014, 03:57:11 pm
I don't know...
I can listen to: Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five, Run-DMC and Tribe Called Quest any day of the week

PE...well some of it has aged poorly, but "Public Enemy No. 1" never gets old to me
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Unsanity on June 19, 2014, 04:02:27 pm
Does anybody listen to their old Public Enemy cd's/lp's/cassettes? Talk about a band whose music did not age well.

In general, I've found that rap doesn't' age all too well.

I still listen to PE's 80's and early 90's stuff. I give up after "Muse Sick N Hour Mess Age" which only had one good song. Flavor Flav has been a big joke for a long ass time now. I saw them at Rock The Bells 2007 and Flav ruined the show. He kept plugging TV shows and forgot the name of some of his band members. There are a few exceptions to rap not aging well. To me, A Tribe Called Quest's classic albums still sound fresh. Much of OutKast's stuff too.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 25, 2014, 09:13:19 am
ryan adams...at the club please

really don't want to see him at the DAR or Strathmore, but understand if you can't


I would hazard a guess that the Lincoln Theatre is the likelier option actually Mr Sidehatch...

Mr. Sidehatch, do you continue to listen to his new albums.. is his last one really good? or is he a legacy act now (Rolling Stones) and it doesn't matter anymore?

Last time I saw Ryan he was at the Patriot Center actually..opening for Oasis.. pretty good..

Loved ashes & fire.
He just released a new song to come out 7/1...Gimme Something Good (7" vinyl---only)

just glad to that his Meniere's disease didn't totally take him out of making/performing music forever
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: James Ford on June 25, 2014, 09:24:58 am
Ryan Adams hasn't released anything worthwhile since the demise of Whiskeytown.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on June 25, 2014, 09:31:34 am
Ryan Adams hasn't released anything worthwhile since the demise of Whiskeytown.

I think Heartbreaker and Gold are darn near perfect, IMO.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: shemptiness on June 25, 2014, 09:41:51 am
The 30 year anniversary of Purple Rain??  Damn.  Where has the time gone?
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Post by: James Ford on June 25, 2014, 11:34:03 am

For me, Heartbreaker (though it initially had some appeal) just doesn't stand up as anything I'd listen to in 2014. And I hated Gold from the beginning.

The early Whiskeytown stuff (Faithless Street, Stanger's Almanac) I listen to on rare occasion for vintage sake.


Ryan Adams hasn't released anything worthwhile since the demise of Whiskeytown.

I think Heartbreaker and Gold are darn near perfect, IMO.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on June 25, 2014, 01:07:25 pm
This thread just inspired me to listen to Rock N Roll (however, I don't think I've heard one tune off that album since 2003 or so) on a quick three mile run at lunch.

I guess I could say I like up to Cold Roses... after that, a bunch of quantity over quality.
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Post by: stevewizzle on June 25, 2014, 02:30:35 pm
Does anybody listen to their old Public Enemy cd's/lp's/cassettes? Talk about a band whose music did not age well.
In general, I've found that rap doesn't' age all too well.
aint that the truth

counterpoint: aquemini, reachin', blowout comb, the chronic, ready to die (to name a few) all aged beautifully. 
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Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 25, 2014, 03:11:55 pm

I guess I could say I like up to Cold Roses... after that, a bunch of quantity over quality.
the truth, but ashes and fire is still really strong.

That cold roses tour was awesome, one of my favorite shows.  Had front row seats in a Berkley auditorium and it was just the naz.
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Post by: James Ford on June 25, 2014, 03:14:59 pm
You were probably in diapers when those albums came out.
Does anybody listen to their old Public Enemy cd's/lp's/cassettes? Talk about a band whose music did not age well.
In general, I've found that rap doesn't' age all too well.
aint that the truth

counterpoint: aquemini, reachin', blowout comb, the chronic, ready to die (to name a few) all aged beautifully. 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: StoneTheCrow on June 25, 2014, 03:24:15 pm
PE is ok in small doses.

I still listen to Tribe regularly. I thought De La's stuff sounded good after listening to the catalog they kindly gave away.  Wu Tang hasn't aged well, imo.

Jurassic 5 was old school style from the get go and I still listen to them regularly,  too.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: atomic on June 25, 2014, 03:25:58 pm
Ryan Adams hasn't released anything worthwhile.

Edited that for accuracy.
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Post by: Yada on June 25, 2014, 04:50:11 pm

I guess I could say I like up to Cold Roses... after that, a bunch of quantity over quality.
the truth, but ashes and fire is still really strong.

That cold roses tour was awesome, one of my favorite shows.  Had front row seats in a Berkley auditorium and it was just the naz.

Yeah... I dug it too when he was in his dead phase during those years.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on June 25, 2014, 04:50:29 pm
Ryan Adams hasn't released anything worthwhile.

Edited that for accuracy.

^^like the lumineers^^
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: slappy on June 26, 2014, 04:48:20 pm
Does anybody listen to their old Public Enemy cd's/lp's/cassettes? Talk about a band whose music did not age well.
In general, I've found that rap doesn't' age all too well.
aint that the truth

counterpoint: aquemini, reachin', blowout comb, the chronic, ready to die (to name a few) all aged beautifully. 
more counterpoint: most all of j dilla's work, paul's boutique, any MF Doom, 3rd Eye Vision - Hieroglyphics
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: RatBastard on June 26, 2014, 08:41:08 pm
It was twenty years ago today (OK well actually tomorrow)...

https://music.yahoo.com/blogs/music-news/just-push-play--remembering-the-first-commercially-available-song-download-232055357.html
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Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 26, 2014, 11:11:17 pm
^that was a great article

This was hysterical
 "If our fans are out there driving down that information superhighway, then we want to be playing at the truck stop. This is the future ? so let's get it going," Aerosmith frontman Steven Tyler said in a press release back in '94...  it took users an hour to download the three-minute, 14-second track.

amazing how foreign it seemed only 20 years ago and how pedestrian it is today
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 27, 2014, 01:43:25 pm
Looks like the new album is done and back from the manufacturer ready to be sold
Saw a release date of 7/22

(https://scontent-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t1.0-9/p526x296/10469048_762895377094324_6875356890633310389_n.jpg)

FREEMAN is Aaron Freeman's first album of original material since disbanding Ween and getting sober, but it's not a record mired in its maker's private struggles. It's a collection of gorgeous, subtly offbeat songs. The lush psych pop of "...Stallion"; the melancholy plea of "More Than the World"; the unflappable, Plastic Ono Band esque blues-rock of "Gimmie One More." FREEMAN distills the Aaron Freeman aesthetic equal parts wonder & malaise, frankness & mysticism, defiance & vulnerability to its headiest essence, proving that this man, known for so long by another name, is finally free.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on June 27, 2014, 02:18:24 pm
Looks like the new album is done and back from the manufacturer ready to be sold
Saw a release date of 7/22

(https://scontent-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t1.0-9/p526x296/10469048_762895377094324_6875356890633310389_n.jpg)

FREEMAN is Aaron Freeman's first album of original material since disbanding Ween and getting sober, but it's not a record mired in its maker's private struggles. It's a collection of gorgeous, subtly offbeat songs. The lush psych pop of "...Stallion"; the melancholy plea of "More Than the World"; the unflappable, Plastic Ono Band esque blues-rock of "Gimmie One More." FREEMAN distills the Aaron Freeman aesthetic equal parts wonder & malaise, frankness & mysticism, defiance & vulnerability to its headiest essence, proving that this man, known for so long by another name, is finally free.

Are you and hutch hitting this show up?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 27, 2014, 03:05:58 pm
Pretty sure Hutch grabbed a ticket
I'm debating...I kinda wanna see King Khan/Black Lips
but I probably should go to this Freeman show
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Post by: hutch on June 27, 2014, 05:34:58 pm
well yeah i grabbed a ticket!!!

gotta say my attendance is conditional on not getting hit by any more cars and whatever my kids may be up to...but i'm fully planning to go..
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 08, 2014, 10:03:29 am
so I see, that frampton, is playing, lincoln.  i just recently read, that his shows lately are horrible, "mailed in" performances, where he plays about ten song, in roughly an hour, and thats it.  sad. 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on July 10, 2014, 09:57:43 am
Video: What Phish Sounds Like to People That Don?t Like Phish (http://livemusicblog.com/2010/08/02/video-what-phish-sounds-like-to-people-that-dont-like-phish/)

Funny, but it goes on too long. Just like....
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: bearman🐻 on July 10, 2014, 01:56:24 pm
A very fun read about the See the Light Tour: Moby, Orbital, Aphex Twin, Vapourspace. And a nice mention about the 9:30 Club show:

http://inthemix.com/features/how-i-survived-americas-first-ever-rave-tour/582
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on July 10, 2014, 09:38:24 pm
something called "A Motown Tribute to Nickleback" exists..  WHY WHY WHY WHY
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 10, 2014, 09:39:22 pm
something called "A Motown Tribute to Nickleback" exists..  WHY WHY WHY WHY
DO NOT WANT.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 15, 2014, 12:33:59 pm
Looks like the new album is done and back from the manufacturer ready to be sold
Saw a release date of 7/22

(https://scontent-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t1.0-9/p526x296/10469048_762895377094324_6875356890633310389_n.jpg)

FREEMAN is Aaron Freeman's first album of original material since disbanding Ween and getting sober, but it's not a record mired in its maker's private struggles. It's a collection of gorgeous, subtly offbeat songs. The lush psych pop of "...Stallion"; the melancholy plea of "More Than the World"; the unflappable, Plastic Ono Band esque blues-rock of "Gimmie One More." FREEMAN distills the Aaron Freeman aesthetic equal parts wonder & malaise, frankness & mysticism, defiance & vulnerability to its headiest essence, proving that this man, known for so long by another name, is finally free.

Are you and hutch hitting this show up?

 New record now streaming from SPIN Magazine: Freeman new album (http://www.spin.com/articles/aaron-freeman-ween-self-titled-debut-partisan-records-stream/)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on July 16, 2014, 02:47:54 pm
Adele announces new album.PBS fans, Lite FM stations and big box retailers are ecstatic.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 16, 2014, 04:17:45 pm
Adele announces new album.PBS fans, Lite FM stations and big box retailers are ecstatic.
and my kids  ;D
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on July 17, 2014, 09:55:07 am
Adele announces new album.PBS fans, Lite FM stations and big box retailers are ecstatic.
and my kids  ;D

well the label is now denying that info, which means they didn't hear a hit single on it ;)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on July 17, 2014, 10:15:07 am
The Bombay Royale's new album "The Island Of Dr. Electrico is pretty much the album of the year for me.  Where else are you going to hear great moments of a Bollywood verses Spaghetti Western track or when a sitar kicks on top of a solid Curtis Mayfield funk groove.  So epic and fun at the same time.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on July 17, 2014, 06:41:11 pm
Always fun to find a cover with a really different take on a classic...

Merrymouth, which i guess one could call a Ocean Colour Scene side project head by the OSC lead singer, do  a piano driven with string quartet folk take on the Stone Roses classic "I Am The Resurrection.

https://soundcloud.com/proper-music-distribution/i-am-the-resurrection
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: vansmack on July 17, 2014, 06:48:35 pm
Adele announces new album.

I never should have dumped her.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on July 17, 2014, 08:48:18 pm
Adele announces new album.

I never should have dumped her.

Probably right. The new album's called "Smackie".
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on July 22, 2014, 09:40:29 am
Slowdive is having every shoegaze bands nightmare.  Their pedals and effects are on a different continent then they are.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on July 26, 2014, 02:03:45 pm
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Post by: kosmo vinyl on July 29, 2014, 07:16:58 pm
Quite possibly the one of the greatest review ever written

http://usa.djmag.com/content/tiesto-wasted-opportunity

Tiësto
A Town Called Paradise
PM: AM Recordings
1.0
Just shit

One of the difficult things about reviewing a Tiësto album ? apart from actually listening to it ? is that there are only so many ways to describe rubbish. However, on the Dutchman?s fifth album he?s made it slightly easier by delivering 14 identical piles of crap: lumpen trance that stomps on your will to live like candy ravers in furry boots, and breakdowns that feel like jumping off a cliff. Which it might seriously drive you to do. Then there are the singers bellowing ?empowering? lyrics Gwyneth Paltrow would consider trite. Speaking of whom, this is all so awful it makes Coldplay?s collaboration with Avicii sound inspired. Produced with apparent contempt for anyone?s ears or intelligence, it?s lowest common denominator bullshit of the most cynical kind. But the most galling thing is that like some evil alchemist Tiësto will somehow turn this trash into millions of dollars. Paul Clarke

What's so great about this review is how it can be used as a template for other records...

Arcade Fire
Reflektor
1.0
Just shit


One of the difficult things about reviewing an Arcade Fire album ? apart from actually listening to it ? is that there are only so many ways to describe rubbish.  However, on the Canadians fourth album they've made it slightly easier by delivering 13 identical piles of crap: lumpen indie rock that stomps on your will to live like Juggalos in a mosh pit, and percussion playing that sounds like lemmings diving off a cliff. Which it might seriously drive you to do. Then there are the singers bellowing ?empowering? lyrics Gwyneth Paltrow would consider trite. Speaking of whom, this is all so awful it makes The Doors?s collaboration with Skrillex sound inspired. Produced with apparent contempt for anyone?s ears or intelligence, it?s lowest common denominator bullshit of the most cynical kind. But the most galling thing is that like some evil alchemist Arcade Fire will somehow turn this trash into millions of dollars.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 29, 2014, 08:15:07 pm
i wonder, how many albums, that reviewer has released?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on July 30, 2014, 01:17:02 am
I always wonder why people ask this question upon encountering a negative review.
You don't have to be a musician in order to have an opinion about music.
i wonder, how many albums, that reviewer has released?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 30, 2014, 07:50:46 am
yes, but you should have, at least musical talent enough to put out music to be reviewed, if you are going to trash other peoples talent, as shit.

having an opinion . . . and putting out your opinion into the world to be accepted and deciphered as the truth, are two separate things.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 30, 2014, 10:59:44 am
yes, but you should have, at least musical talent enough to put out music to be reviewed, if you are going to trash other peoples talent, as shit.

having an opinion . . . and putting out your opinion into the world to be accepted and deciphered as the truth, are two separate things.
That's idiotic. Absolutely nothing you said in your comma delimited rant is remotely reasonable.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on July 30, 2014, 11:04:49 am
your comma delimited rant

this made me LOL.

drop anything walkie posts into a text editor, save as .csv, and import into Excel!!!

slowly diverting this thread to geekological banter...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 30, 2014, 11:12:05 am
drop anything walkie posts into a text editor, save as .csv, and import into Excel!!!
Format Text/Space Delimited all the way. I didn't used to be Julian, .prn CONNOISSEUR for nothing.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on July 30, 2014, 01:29:06 pm
yes, but you should have, at least musical talent enough to put out music to be reviewed, if you are going to trash other peoples talent, as shit.

having an opinion . . . and putting out your opinion into the world to be accepted and deciphered as the truth, are two separate things.
That's idiotic. Absolutely nothing you said in your comma delimited rant is remotely reasonable.


im enjoying, your alliteration, at the end of that sentence.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on July 30, 2014, 06:39:23 pm
i'll fully admin my intentions of posting that review weren't entirely pure... but there is some irony in the fact that Tiesto apparently only produced his album and left all the actual creating of the tracks to others...

another classic review i saw recently, basically took one band to task because a former band member is now in another group with a bigger buzz and included that info in the review.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on July 30, 2014, 08:08:49 pm
Yeah, I'll admit picking on Tiesto is like shooting monkeys in a barrel.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on July 31, 2014, 09:11:00 am
David Thomas geeking out on old Macs has already made my day (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10203601258385676&set=a.1024993918747.4899.1642234398&type=1&relevant_count=1)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on July 31, 2014, 01:55:42 pm
Weird Al Yankovic has the number one album in the USA!!

woo hoo

i was the coolest kid in school for a day -I must admit not a common event- in the 8th grade when i recorded Eat It off of American top 40 and took it to school on my walkman (this was in japan and nobody had heard it)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 31, 2014, 02:02:05 pm
sad that it only lasted for a day  ;D
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on July 31, 2014, 02:08:37 pm
sad that it only lasted for a day  ;D

I agree...I blame my parents!

I suppose I can think of a few other highlights...but some of them are pretty lame... why did being cool seem to go hand in hand with being an idiot?

I was cool when I stole a test before the test and shared it with the people on my school bus.....cool until someone snitched on me...

I guess I was cool when I was elected high school student body president but not really...

I sure would have loved to have been able to play soccer well....or dated the hot swedish or even english chick in my class....

I've come to realize these things are so often predetermined by your genetics and your upbringing you hardly have a chance to be anything other than what you end up being.



Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 31, 2014, 02:35:40 pm
don't worry dude, you're cool in my book
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 31, 2014, 02:51:43 pm
I was cool when I stole a test before the test and shared it with the people on my school bus.....cool until someone snitched on me...
Something similar happened to me. I was at an afterschool "something" (I forget what) and I was in a utility room with a copy machine. This was like 5th grade. And the science teacher, Mr. Vest, had left the test for the next day sitting on top of the copy machine. I thought it was funny, put it in my pocket, told no one, and the next day, first thing I went to his classroom and returned it. He asked where I got it and I said it was on the copy machine. He called my parents and made a big stink about it and postponed the test for a day until he could come up with new questions about the same material. I remember my dad coming to school and going "you left something somewhere, and he returned it to you and didn't show it to anyone else? What did you want him to do exactly?"

I think I turned up getting lunch detention or something over it still, but I'm not 100% on the details.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on July 31, 2014, 04:51:49 pm
in first year of grad school, we would ask second year students for their old tests to do them as practice tests.  for one exam, the prof was a lazy goofball and used 90% of the questions from the previous year's test.  the average on that test was over 90%.  after much deliberation, the prof decided to let the marks stand since it was "his fault" (laziness) that we all did so well.  much debate ensued...

Musicological --> geekological --> academic... what's next?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 01, 2014, 08:41:09 am
weird al would cry with happiness if he knew what he has inspired
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on August 01, 2014, 08:27:55 pm
yes, but you should have, at least musical talent enough to put out music to be reviewed, if you are going to trash other peoples talent, as shit.

having an opinion . . . and putting out your opinion into the world to be accepted and deciphered as the truth, are two separate things.
That's idiotic. Absolutely nothing you said in your comma delimited rant is remotely reasonable.


im enjoying, your alliteration, at the end of that sentence.

I've! figured it out, Walkie, is actually a Christopher Walken, bot!


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bt5xw0QCQAAO5I7.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on August 01, 2014, 08:32:20 pm
im, fish and chips, loving, that telephone number.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on August 03, 2014, 04:37:42 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/10384930_10152567227233818_5617401993528958256_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: vansmack on August 03, 2014, 04:51:32 pm
Want.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: slappy on August 04, 2014, 12:00:51 pm
Could be interesting ...

THURSTON MOORE ENLISTS SONIC YOUTH?S STEVE SHELLEY AND MBV?S DEBBIE GOOGE FOR NEW BAND
http://www.factmag.com/2014/08/04/thurston-moore-enlists-sonic-youths-steve-shelley-and-mbvs-debbie-googe-for-new-band/ (http://www.factmag.com/2014/08/04/thurston-moore-enlists-sonic-youths-steve-shelley-and-mbvs-debbie-googe-for-new-band/)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on August 04, 2014, 03:34:34 pm
Kathleen Hannah Montana (http://pitchfork.com/news/56161-kathleen-hanna-reaches-out-to-miley-cyrus-for-collaboration-after-miley-instagrams-bikini-kill-pics/)

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on August 11, 2014, 08:23:12 pm
Slug Solos

http://slugsolos.tumblr.com/

Guitar solo face + slug

(http://37.media.tumblr.com/e2e90d62dbf340f5368e4ebc5d009984/tumblr_n9wmh7YNIP1thoekio1_1280.jpg)

(http://31.media.tumblr.com/0e9734f563428bbce569b87f8c9d1368/tumblr_n9jbhdRXow1thoekio1_500.jpg)

(http://38.media.tumblr.com/552bf8ebdb9d466779ba812d21525d86/tumblr_n9ccbxluR41thoekio1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on August 14, 2014, 09:51:44 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BvAmU0zIQAABjL1.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on August 15, 2014, 08:42:37 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BvAmU0zIQAABjL1.jpg)

I have that shirt.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on August 15, 2014, 04:46:17 pm
white lung, kicks major, ass
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on August 18, 2014, 07:16:53 pm
Any band doing a "Waiting Room" cover should be forced to listen to "Afternoon Delight" on repeat.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: challenged on August 18, 2014, 07:37:43 pm
Any band doing a "Waiting Room" cover should be forced to listen to "Afternoon Delight" on repeat.

I really enjoyed Arcade Fire the show...

you are saying Fugazi was too obvious a cover...?

http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2014/08/arcade_fire_cov_3.html

i would have enjoyed "afternoon delight," but would have been more happier with some Trouble Funk:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buXt-yyZEss

they certainly had the percussion section necessary for such...


Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Vas Deferens on August 18, 2014, 07:41:26 pm
https://twitter.com/ahmadmzaghal/status/501353091992924162
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 21, 2014, 12:27:45 pm
The Knife are breaking up once their your is done.

Someone check on Walkie.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 21, 2014, 01:26:13 pm
https://twitter.com/ahmadmzaghal/status/501353091992924162
from this link on a internet worm hole I reached this story about fugazi releasing it's first demo (http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2014/08/fugazi_releasin_1.html) which has one of my favorite quotes of the week

"The cover, about the growing Libertarian movement within the republican party, uses the association between classic DC hardcore and politics to great effect. The story apparently compares Rand Paul to Pearl Jam, Ron Paul to Nirvana, and Ted Cruz to the Stone Temple Pilots,"

So does that make Barry Goldwater the Ramones and Ayn Rand Iggy?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on August 21, 2014, 01:35:03 pm
The Knife are breaking up once their your is done.

Someone check on Walkie.

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-i0SoMgWPUE4/UGzxB67WJrI/AAAAAAAABoc/cfX3DmJIEFU/s400/Deathcat.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on August 21, 2014, 01:56:20 pm
Walkie, wins, again,
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 21, 2014, 02:24:58 pm
If one of us convincingly faked our own death on here, and it didn't slip out until the big reveal, that'd be a first-ballot (META: User-curated) Hall of Fame event.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on August 21, 2014, 03:10:58 pm
RIP: Atomic
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 21, 2014, 03:32:33 pm
RIP: Atomic
He died in a horrible auto-erotic masturbatory asphyxiation accident! Why, Lord, why!? Why do you take the tall, Germanic assholes from us in their prime, Lord?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on August 21, 2014, 03:48:51 pm
evil santa is dead inside
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 21, 2014, 03:56:30 pm
evil santa is dead inside
You're too hard on him. At worst, he's an emotional anorexic. Nowhere close to full blown dead inside.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on August 21, 2014, 04:06:32 pm
Sez you..I don't know how he got a hold of a lute, but he's locked away working on something he's calling Consortstep.  His soundcloud page is a horror of turning anything he can think off into step
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: stevewizzle on August 22, 2014, 12:24:36 am
https://twitter.com/ahmadmzaghal/status/501353091992924162

i wish i could unsee this
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: slappy on August 22, 2014, 10:49:01 am
Henry Rollins ...  ::)
his 17 year old jock psyche just won't leave him.
http://www.laweekly.com/westcoastsound/2014/08/21/henry-rollins-fuck-suicide (http://www.laweekly.com/westcoastsound/2014/08/21/henry-rollins-fuck-suicide)

"I have life by the neck and drag it along. Rarely does it move fast enough. Raw Power forever."

I think he needs a cat. People with cats don't say such douchetastic things.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: James Ford on August 22, 2014, 12:35:35 pm
While that quote is silly, he's spot on with the rest of the article.

Henry Rollins ...  ::)
his 17 year old jock psyche just won't leave him.
http://www.laweekly.com/westcoastsound/2014/08/21/henry-rollins-fuck-suicide (http://www.laweekly.com/westcoastsound/2014/08/21/henry-rollins-fuck-suicide)

"I have life by the neck and drag it along. Rarely does it move fast enough. Raw Power forever."

I think he needs a cat. People with cats don't say such douchetastic things.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on August 22, 2014, 12:59:28 pm
I agree with the article too... even though Rollins is one of the biggest nozzles out there.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: James Ford on August 22, 2014, 01:03:01 pm
I especially agree with the part about not taking your life if you have kids. But his youngest kid is 23, so maybe the rules change once your youngest is an adult (?) You're going to die at some point, 63 with your kids grown is not that young anyway...

I agree with the article too... even though Rollins is one of the biggest nozzles out there.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on August 22, 2014, 01:12:53 pm
I especially agree with the part about not taking your life if you have kids. But his youngest kid is 23, so maybe the rules change once your youngest is an adult (?) You're going to die at some point, 63 with your kids grown is not that young anyway...

I agree with the article too... even though Rollins is one of the biggest nozzles out there.

That's  part I agree with, if you have kids... don't be selfish and leave them.   
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on August 22, 2014, 01:37:33 pm
He is not spot on about anything...

Severe depression can lead people to kill themselves..its a disease...

he's about as right as the people who are convinced that some people beat cancer cause they wanted to and others don't because they didn't...

its seriously so moronic that i'm shocked to read people agree with on this site..

obviouslyt he man was seriously sick... nobody kills themselves and leaves kids behind because they are thinking rationally...its an illness and even if you seek out treatment sometimes it doesn't work...its very complex

but to say people who kill themselves are dicks?? WTF?

nobody disputes that killing yourself when you have kids is a terrible thing to do..heck, just killing yourself even if you don't! i mean what about the people who love a person that kills themselves? BUT that is not the issue.. the issue is that its an illness that leads people to feel so desperate that there is nothing else to be done...

moreover, nobody knows Robin Williams or any other man, other than themself (and in many cases not even that), to be able to sit around judging others and what they "did"... i mean what the fuck do you all know about robin williams??? you thinkk cause you saw a few movies you know shit?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on August 22, 2014, 01:54:10 pm
He is not spot on about anything...

Severe depression can lead people to kill themselves..its a disease...

he's about as right as the people who are convinced that some people beat cancer cause they wanted to and others don't because they didn't...

its seriously so moronic that i'm shocked to read people agree with on this site..

obviouslyt he man was seriously sick... nobody kills themselves and leaves kids behind because they are thinking rationally...its an illness and even if you seek out treatment sometimes it doesn't work...its very complex

but to say people who kill themselves are dicks?? WTF?

nobody disputes that killing yourself when you have kids is a terrible thing to do..heck, just killing yourself even if you don't! i mean what about the people who love a person that kills themselves? BUT that is not the issue.. the issue is that its an illness that leads people to feel so desperate that there is nothing else to be done...

moreover, nobody knows Robin Williams or any other man, other than themself (and in many cases not even that), to be able to sit around judging others and what they "did"... i mean what the fuck do you all know about robin williams??? you thinkk cause you saw a few movies you know shit?

My judgment isn't based on me thinking I know Robin WIlliams, it's based on personal experiences that I've had in my life where people have left children behind.

I understand it's a disease and not something you can just "turn off", but in some situations it's just not acceptable IMO.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on August 22, 2014, 02:17:09 pm


My judgment isn't based on me thinking I know Robin WIlliams, it's based on personal experiences that I've had in my life where people have left children behind.

I understand it's a disease and not something you can just "turn off", but in some situations it's just not acceptable IMO.

well I don't know what you mean when you say "its just not acceptable"... you'd have to define your words very precisely..it could be read any number of ways..

its not acceptable so he's a dick could be one reading.... if that is what you're saying you ought to take a big step back...

its not acceptable so people shouldn't do it if they can at all avoid it could be another reading.... a more human one i would add


the fact you know people who did it means nothing just as it means nothing that henry rollins had a roomate who was depressed......sorry to say.... its not the same... you can't extrapolate one case and make it emblematic of all cases and then draw a judgment....

you really ought to focus a bit more on empathy and be less judgmental of people you don't know...

depression is an illness...very often genetically transmitted and which people often times have no ability to control.... even if they do seek treatment.. it is incredibly complex...certainly more complex than "oh, he took the easy way out, what a dick"......
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on August 22, 2014, 02:22:15 pm
empathy is an interesting concept..... having a child with autism (maybe two) i never thought all that much about it.. i think i'm lacking in it at times.. i know my father is..... i dont mean to lack in it but i do.. i think about it more...the ability to look at things from other people's shoes...its really a great ability isn't it...to see things as others do.... its so weird how so much comes down to those pesky genes..and that winning sperm
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on August 22, 2014, 02:55:35 pm


My judgment isn't based on me thinking I know Robin WIlliams, it's based on personal experiences that I've had in my life where people have left children behind.

I understand it's a disease and not something you can just "turn off", but in some situations it's just not acceptable IMO.

well I don't know what you mean when you say "its just not acceptable"... you'd have to define your words very precisely..it could be read any number of ways..

its not acceptable so he's a dick could be one reading.... if that is what you're saying you ought to take a big step back...

its not acceptable so people shouldn't do it if they can at all avoid it could be another reading.... a more human one i would add


the fact you know people who did it means nothing just as it means nothing that henry rollins had a roomate who was depressed......sorry to say.... its not the same... you can't extrapolate one case and make it emblematic of all cases and then draw a judgment....

you really ought to focus a bit more on empathy and be less judgmental of people you don't know...

depression is an illness...very often genetically transmitted and which people often times have no ability to control.... even if they do seek treatment.. it is incredibly complex...certainly more complex than "oh, he took the easy way out, what a dick"......

Without exposing too much personal information on this here website, believe me... I know all the ins and outs of these illnesses.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: James Ford on August 22, 2014, 03:53:27 pm
I reckon some choose to empathize with the dead guy who is now in no pain (assuming he's not burning in Hell*), while others choose to empathize with those whose actions the dead guy brought current pain to.

*Disclaimer: I don't believe in Hell


empathy is an interesting concept..... having a child with autism (maybe two) i never thought all that much about it.. i think i'm lacking in it at times.. i know my father is..... i dont mean to lack in it but i do.. i think about it more...the ability to look at things from other people's shoes...its really a great ability isn't it...to see things as others do.... its so weird how so much comes down to those pesky genes..and that winning sperm
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on August 22, 2014, 08:30:34 pm
I reckon some choose to empathize with the dead guy who is now in no pain (assuming he's not burning in Hell*), while others choose to empathize with those whose actions the dead guy brought current pain to.

*Disclaimer: I don't believe in Hell


empathy is an interesting concept..... having a child with autism (maybe two) i never thought all that much about it.. i think i'm lacking in it at times.. i know my father is..... i dont mean to lack in it but i do.. i think about it more...the ability to look at things from other people's shoes...its really a great ability isn't it...to see things as others do.... its so weird how so much comes down to those pesky genes..and that winning sperm

what a silly thing to write james ford...why do you have to choose to empathize with one "side" or "another"...this ain't a ballgame buddy...this isn't israel vs gaza..this is one man's life.... of course one is sad for his survivors.. heck even for the world really... but at the end of the day i'm sad that robin williams felt that was the only thing he could do..... calling him a dick/coward for it is just unecessary...nobody appointed any of you judge and you don't know any of the actual facts..

the only thing i can say is a great artist died.. who gave me pleasure, and I gave him nothing, and I'm sad for his loss and the folks that loved and cared about him.. i have no idea what his relationships with his loved ones where... or even how many children he had.. i dont' concern myself with his personal life... just sad for his loss and that he was in such pain...

kurt cobain blew his brains off.. he was a very sick man.... I'm not going to say he was an evil man for doing that.. I have no idea what his demons were.....  could i ever bring myself to kill myself? no, first of all i lack the courage, second of all i could never do that to my children... but I am not mentally ill or at least not to that degree...:)

my reaction to kurt dying is pretty similar to robin....i'm sorry he felt that was what he had to do.. i don't sit around and judge him.. how can you judge someone you don't even know as some of you, and henry rollins, are doing..


Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: James Ford on August 22, 2014, 09:08:32 pm
Pretty sure you gave him something. $$$

I never called him a dick.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: stevewizzle on August 22, 2014, 09:20:00 pm
Pretty sure you gave him something. $$$

I never called him a dick.

i'll call rollins a dick.  he's a dick and he's ignorant and anyone who agrees with what he wrote should stick with what they know.  i normally don't mind rollins, i was never really a fan of his music, but i appreciate that he's candid and he expressed how he felt, but he is standing on the wrong side and his words read to me like he has no fucking clue what it means to have a mental illness.

we are all just trying to get through life, some of us finding more meaning in it than others, and by no means does that give anyone the fucking right to point a finger at the other side and say "you're doing it wrong, asshole".  as a relatively young boardie, i can tell you that after 18, there's very little parenting to do, and parents really struggle with finding meaning in life after their children have grown up.  the fact that rollins props up robin williams to get his point across about suicide is disgusting... his child is an adult at this point. 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: James Ford on August 22, 2014, 09:23:43 pm
So nobody has the right to point a finger and tell someone they fucked up? Puh-leeeze.  Some of us get criticized for our actions every day of the week. If we can take the criticism, so can Robin.

Pretty sure you gave him something. $$$

I never called him a dick.

i'll call him a dick.  he's a dick and he's ignorant and anyone who agrees with what he wrote should stick with what they know.  i normally don't mind rollins, i was never really a fan of his music, but i appreciate that he's candid and he expressed how he felt, but he is standing on the wrong side and his words read to me like he has no fucking clue what it means to have a mental illness.

we are all just trying to get through life, some of us finding more meaning in it than others, and by no means does that give anyone the fucking right to point a finger at the other side and say "you're doing it wrong, asshole".  fuck henry rollins here.

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: stevewizzle on August 22, 2014, 09:29:19 pm
So nobody has the right to point a finger and tell someone they fucked up? Puh-leeeze.  Some of us get criticized for our actions every day of the week. If we can take the criticism, so can Robin.

Pretty sure you gave him something. $$$

I never called him a dick.

i'll call him a dick.  he's a dick and he's ignorant and anyone who agrees with what he wrote should stick with what they know.  i normally don't mind rollins, i was never really a fan of his music, but i appreciate that he's candid and he expressed how he felt, but he is standing on the wrong side and his words read to me like he has no fucking clue what it means to have a mental illness.

we are all just trying to get through life, some of us finding more meaning in it than others, and by no means does that give anyone the fucking right to point a finger at the other side and say "you're doing it wrong, asshole".  fuck henry rollins here.


i edited my original post a little bit for clarification.

but to respond to the question posed... i think it goes without saying "you've fucked up" if you end your life.  there's more humility in self reflection that death is final.  nobody has to write an op-ed about it.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on August 25, 2014, 09:21:42 am
Your Logo Is Not Hardcore (http://yourlogoisnothardcore.tumblr.com/)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: slappy on August 25, 2014, 01:14:13 pm
Your Logo Is Not Hardcore (http://yourlogoisnothardcore.tumblr.com/)

Your link is not musicological.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: slappy on August 25, 2014, 01:20:17 pm
And now the ones that agree with the first Rollins are left by themselves.

http://henryrollins.com/news (http://henryrollins.com/news)

August 22 2014

2016 PST

For the last 9+ hours, I have been answering letters from people from all over the world. The anger is off the scale and in my opinion, well placed.

The article I wrote in the LA Weekly about suicide caused a lot of hurt. This is perhaps one of the bigger understatements of all time. I read all the letters. Some of them were very long and the disappointment, resentment and ringing clarity was jarring.

That I hurt anyone by what I said, and I did hurt many, disgusts me. It was not at all my intent but it most certainly was the result.

I have had a life of depression. Some days are excruciating. Knowing what I know and having been through what I have, I should have known better but I obviously did not. I get so mad when I hear that someone has died this way. Not mad at them, mad at whatever got them there and that no one magically appeared to somehow save them.

I am not asking for a break from the caning, take me to the woodshed as much as you see fit. If what I said has caused you to be done with me, I get it.

I wrote something for the LA Weekly that they will post on Monday.

I wanted to get this out at this moment.

I am deeply sorry. Down to my marrow. I can?t think that means anything to you, but I am. Completely sorry. It is not of my interest to hurt anyone but I know I did. Thank you for reading this. Henry
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on August 25, 2014, 02:17:14 pm
Your Logo Is Not Hardcore (http://yourlogoisnothardcore.tumblr.com/)

Your link is not musicological.

Musicology also considers the culture surrounding music.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on August 25, 2014, 10:37:37 pm
vmas

two words . . . riff raff
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: slappy on August 26, 2014, 04:10:44 pm
Your Logo Is Not Hardcore (http://yourlogoisnothardcore.tumblr.com/)

Your link is not musicological.

Musicology also considers the culture surrounding music.

I see, since all culture surrounds music, you interpret this as an anything goes zone.

I was goofing on the title more than anything, but I'll add 'Hardcore' isn't really the best description in which to base the whole Tumblr. The logos are really all intending to promote a hipster vibe not hardcore.

Although in twenty years when 'hipster' comes back around to being hip. There will be a Hipster Hardcore sub genre of music that will be based somewhere like Albuquerque. They will all create their own instruments out of locally sourced wood with artisanal strings. There will be a Hipster Hardcore tribute album to Henry Rollins, who will off himself in ten years when he learns the tragic combination of being diagnosed with hemorrhoids and the news Häagen-Daz has filed chapter 11.

Book that shit.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on August 27, 2014, 11:53:55 am
I see, since all culture surrounds music, you interpret this as an anything goes zone.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10622815_10153071416270278_6846778212657419623_n.jpg?oh=1d1ccc42edd548e268727bd2a28eac8f&oe=5478CE3B&__gda__=1417347629_42fa084cd013ac1825a19a10f9808b8b)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: slappy on August 27, 2014, 01:54:31 pm
PetSmart is my first destination after I renew my policy.
(http://planetivy.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/iggy-pop.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on August 27, 2014, 02:58:35 pm
That's the first time I've seen that ad and I wanted to check it out. Sadly, I found that Mr. Pop is not the first hit in Google when typing Iggy.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: slappy on August 27, 2014, 11:57:35 pm
That's the first time I've seen that ad and I wanted to check it out. Sadly, I found that Mr. Pop is not the first hit in Google when typing Iggy.

Well then, welcome to the world of Iggy pitching insurance with a puppet from those UK puppet guys from the 80s. I don't remember the name of their show/brand especially after Genesis inflicted one of their music videos with them.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MhBnEV3ElvY (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MhBnEV3ElvY)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 29, 2014, 08:17:50 am
930 is now a record label record label (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/local-breaking-news/dc/930-club-to-launch-record-labe.html)

not sure I'm interested in this show, but who are "9:30 Club subscribers" that will have a chance to win tickets through a lottery?

for some reason I can't seem to get any emails from the 930, I even subscribed under different e-mails and such.
On that note, like the low ticket warning, I think there should be a 930/IMP email thread
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 29, 2014, 08:35:18 am
for some reason I can't seem to get any emails from the 930, I even subscribed under different e-mails and such.
On that note, like the low ticket warning, I think there should be a 930/IMP email thread
I received mail and email from 930 consistently for years, then ThatGuy got his panties in a bunch and banned me, and both immediately stopped. I've tried signing back up, nothing. That's pretty much the height of pettiness.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 29, 2014, 08:37:42 am
for some reason I can't seem to get any emails from the 930, I even subscribed under different e-mails and such.
On that note, like the low ticket warning, I think there should be a 930/IMP email thread
I received mail and email from 930 consistently for years, then ThatGuy got his panties in a bunch and banned me, and both immediately stopped. I've tried signing back up, nothing. That's pretty much the height of pettiness.
heck, I don't think I've burned any bridges with 930 (I'm sure there are a few bordies I've pissed off) But I've sent emails to human@930 and even the staff a FWB and still nothing. 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on August 29, 2014, 07:07:28 pm
930 is now a record label record label (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/local-breaking-news/dc/930-club-to-launch-record-labe.html)

not sure I'm interested in this show, but who are "9:30 Club subscribers" that will have a chance to win tickets through a lottery?

for some reason I can't seem to get any emails from the 930, I even subscribed under different e-mails and such.
On that note, like the low ticket warning, I think there should be a 930/IMP email thread

Did you not see the date on the story?  It's from four years ago....  I was beginning to wonder if I had missed a memo about the label expanding or something.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on August 29, 2014, 07:12:39 pm
930 is now a record label record label (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/local-breaking-news/dc/930-club-to-launch-record-labe.html)

not sure I'm interested in this show, but who are "9:30 Club subscribers" that will have a chance to win tickets through a lottery?

for some reason I can't seem to get any emails from the 930, I even subscribed under different e-mails and such.
On that note, like the low ticket warning, I think there should be a 930/IMP email thread

Did you not see the date on the story?  It's from four years ago....  I was beginning to wonder if I had missed a memo about the label expanding or something.

yeah he started it to put out the justin jones thing..not sure if they released anything else...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: vansmack on August 29, 2014, 07:14:30 pm
I left DC 10 11 years ago and I still get all my 930 emails.  On two different accounts....
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on August 30, 2014, 10:45:43 am
Julian, deserves, every thing that, happens to him.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 30, 2014, 10:20:38 pm
Did you not see the date on the story? 

jea-zus, second time this has happened.  No I didn't check the date!
was surprised no one else had said anything about it

add that to the list I need to do in life, check the date
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 02, 2014, 10:14:32 pm
Buzzcocks

        thursday

               Black Cat

                        not sold out

                                  isn't that odd?!?  - kinda pictured them packing da club
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on September 03, 2014, 12:12:05 am
Word style, is imper,ative
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on September 06, 2014, 11:24:45 am
Honestly indifferent on Frank Turner's music but this is pretty damn cool. http://thequietus.com/articles/16135-frank-turner-live-review-barnsley
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Rogue Riderhood on September 08, 2014, 01:28:37 pm
RIP Death by Audio (the venue... the pedal company will continue)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on September 08, 2014, 01:31:30 pm
Supposedly Vice are taking over the building.


Maybe some of the idiots who read it will start to see that it's not as cool as it tries (way too hard) to portray itself now.

http://gothamist.com/2014/07/02/vice_media_glasslands.php
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Rogue Riderhood on September 09, 2014, 10:00:41 pm
http://pitchfork.com/news/56630-aphex-twins-list-of-gear-used-on-syro-surfaces/
Wow.
Quote

    A Designs Reddi
    A Designs Pacifica
    ADT Toolkit x4
    Akai S950HXC
    AKG Contact Mics
    Alice Mixer
    Allen Heath Mix Wizard
    Allen Organ Spring Reverb
    AMS RM16
    API 3124+
    API 550A
    API 550A orig
    API 550B API 560
    API 8200A
    ARP 2500
    Atari 1040 + Midi Expansions + HXC
    Avedis E27
    Bode Vocoder
    Boss BX16
    Boss BX8
    Boss GE7
    Buzz Audio Arc1.1
    Calrec Minimixer
    Calrec RQP3200
    Casio FZ10 + FZ20M + NXC
    Chandler Delay Black
    Chandler Delay Cream
    Chandler Zoner Limiter
    Cirklon Sequencer
    Court Acoustics Graphic
    Crumar Bit01 White
    Cwejman RES4 x3
    Cwejman VC06
    Disklavier MKIV Pro Custom
    DPA 4052
    Drawner Stereo Gate Dytronics FS1
    Elysia Mpressor
    EML 101. modded
    EMS 2000 Vocoder
    EMT 140 Plate/Stereo/Tube
    EMT 240 Gold Foil
    EMT 252 FX
    EMT 258 x4 Filters
    Ensoniq ASR10 Eventide DSP4000
    Eventide H3000 DSE
    Eventide H949 x4
    Focusrite ISA110 Orig x8
    Focusrite ISA430
    Fulltone Tape Echo
    Harrison 32EQ GR500
    HAT Mechanical Drums
    Helios x2
    Intellijel Rubicon
    JH ARP Quadra Phaser
    JH Storm Tide FLanger x2
    JH Tau Phaser
    Jomox Sunsyn V1 x2
    Kawai K5000R
    Klark Teknik DN780
    Korg DS8
    Korg Minipops7 Midi. sepouts
    Korg PS3200
    Korg PS3300 x3
    Lexicon 480L
    Lexicon PCM70
    LPG
    Lynx Aurora 16
    Make Noise DPO
    Marion PROSynth x2
    Meinl Water UDU
    Micmix Dynaflanger
    Micmix Masteroom 2
    Midas Venice Desk
    Midimoogs x2
    Modular Systems/Eurorack
    Moog Memory Lintronics
    MIT Ensemble
    Mum & Dad Vocals
    Musicmaid Claptrap x4
    Nagra IV-S
    Neotek Elite 64 Channel Custom
    Neumann V473 x2
    Oberheim OBX, racked
    Oberheim Modular SEMs, racked
    Orla DSE24
    Pearl SC40
    Pearl Syncussion, racked/midi/mod x4
    Plugins, various
    Pultec EQP-1A3
    Quad Eight 248 x2
    Quantec Room Simulator
    Retro Instruments Powerstrip
    Rhodes Chroma
    RME Fireface800
    RMI Harmonic Synth
    Roland 101s, modded
    Roland CE1
    Roland D550
    Roland MK550
    Roland MK570
    Roland R8/ROM(?)
    Roland TR606 / 666?, modded
    Roland TR808
    Sci Prophet VS
    Sci Prophet5, racked/keyboard
    Sennheiser VSM201
    Serge Modular 9-panel
    Shure Auxpander
    Siemens V78 x2
    Simmons SD53(??)
    SM Pro PEQ505
    Songbird Tri Chorus x2
    Sound Devices 772
    Soundcraft Ghost
    Soundworkshop 262
    SPL TD4
    SSL 4000 Channel Strips x5
    SSL X desk
    Studio Electronics Code8 Full
    Synthoma Elkorus
    Synton Syntovox 221 x2
    Tantek Flanger/Delay
    TC1210
    Tongue Drums
    TR727
    TR9090
    Valley People Gain Brains
    Valley People Kepex x10
    Wildlife
    Yamaha CS80
    Yamaha D5000
    Yamaha DX100, modded
    Yamaha DX11
    Yamaha EX42
    Yamaha FS1R
    Yamaha RX11
    Yamaha TX16W x2
    Zither AFX-scale
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: vansmack on September 09, 2014, 10:20:02 pm
The cool part was the Syro Surface, not the actual list:

(http://cdn2.pitchfork.com/news/56630/59996e8f.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on September 10, 2014, 09:28:47 am
Some U2/Apple backlash (http://thequietus.com/articles/16217-bono-u2-songs-of-experience)

Some more (http://twitter.com/dada_drummer")


Pretty much agree with all of it.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 10, 2014, 10:28:59 am
A free U2 record? Overpriced.

That band was good, not great, for a three-year stretch over twenty years ago. It is astounding they remain as popular as they are with the glut of terrible material they've put out in the interim and what absolute, unmitigated assholes everyone in the band appears to be.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on September 10, 2014, 10:40:23 am
A free U2 record? Overpriced.

That band was good, not great, for a three-year stretch over twenty years ago. It is astounding they remain as popular as they are with the glut of terrible material they've put out in the interim and what absolute, unmitigated assholes everyone in the band appears to be.

LOLU2

(http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_maim9sAJRO1qdtw7so4_250.gif)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 10, 2014, 10:48:43 am
A free U2 record? Overpriced.

That band was good, not great, for a three-year stretch over twenty years ago. It is astounding they remain as popular as they are with the glut of terrible material they've put out in the interim and what absolute, unmitigated assholes everyone in the band appears to be.

LOLU2

(http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_maim9sAJRO1qdtw7so4_250.gif)
I mean, am I alone on this? I know Smackie loves them, but the more "hip" 80% of this board, we all hate them, right? U2 is a total nostalgia act and a sucky one at that.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on September 10, 2014, 10:55:01 am
I like(d) Rattle and Hum.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: bearman🐻 on September 10, 2014, 11:12:55 am
I like(d) Rattle and Hum.

Achtung Baby is the one LP that I have a soft spot for. If I didn't hear "Angel of Harlem" or "Beautiful Day" ever again, I'd be OK with that.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: James Ford on September 10, 2014, 11:27:02 am
U2 had me through Joshua Tree, lost me with Rattle and Hum, got me back with Achtung Baby, and lost me forever after that.

I've never seen them live and never bought a tshirt.

Some of my Irish ancestors had the same last name as Bono.

I wonder if i pass the Sidehatch coolness test?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 10, 2014, 11:56:15 am
U2 had me through Joshua Tree, lost me with Rattle and Hum, got me back with Achtung Baby, and lost me forever after that.

I've never seen them live and never bought a tshirt.

Some of my Irish ancestors had the same last name as Bono.

I wonder if i pass the Sidehatch coolness test?

Would have been cooler if you said 'after Boy, I really couldn't get into them anymore, '  'also I was fortunate enough to be in the crowd for  Live at Red Rocks: Under a Blood Red Sky and nabbed his sweaty towel when tossed to the crowd'
(http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/29/6a/b4/296ab4e860cd63c71fe3b8caa92b5962.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on September 10, 2014, 12:27:35 pm
my peak U2 fandom was Live Under a Blood Red Sky/The Unforgettable Fire

With or without you and I still haven't found what I'm looking for make me want to vommit.....

on the other Where the Streets have no name still has that great buildup...

I have zero interest in U2 these days....that is all I got on U2.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Rogue Riderhood on September 10, 2014, 01:53:56 pm
http://www.stereogum.com/1704026/isolated-mic-exposes-courtney-loves-earsplitting-guitar-playing/video/

Courtney slaying the guitar!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on September 10, 2014, 01:59:06 pm
I'm kinda into it.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: vansmack on September 10, 2014, 06:25:29 pm
I  mean, am I alone on this? I know Smackie loves them, but the more "hip" 80% of this board, we all hate them, right? U2 is a total nostalgia act and a sucky one at that.

I've never felt the need to defend my musical tastes,  and certainly won't start now.  However,  if you think my  choice of music defines my hipness,  then I am reassured that I am not the one with an issue.

I have tickets to see Social D,  Cock Sparrer,  Luke Bryan and Slowdive/Low show in the next two months,  and will likely  enjoy each one of them.   It's the beauty of my positive outlook and taking most things at face value,  ignoring the bullshit that gets most people so worked up.

Now if you'll excuse,  I'm going back to my Hall and Oates radio,  and doing so not ironically.   They make my dreams come true.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on September 10, 2014, 06:42:17 pm
The very definition of being hip is listening to whatever you like and not giving a shit what others think...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 11, 2014, 07:38:16 am
The makes me the hippest of the hip then  :o

<cues up Kacey Musgraves for the commute in>
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 11, 2014, 08:52:57 am
Ok I lied..I'm actually listening to the Polyrythmics a killer afrofunk outfit with jazzy overtones.  But,I do often listen to ms. Musgraves when I having a lousy morning.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: James Ford on September 11, 2014, 09:04:11 am
Like my mom, with her collection of American Idol alumni CD's.

The very definition of being hip is listening to whatever you like and not giving a shit what others think...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Bagley on September 11, 2014, 09:05:29 am
"Follow your arrow wherever it points"

KM
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on September 11, 2014, 09:36:56 am
Like my mom, with her collection of American Idol alumni CD's.

The very definition of being hip is listening to whatever you like and not giving a shit what others think...

**wiggles to ruben studdard**
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 15, 2014, 05:51:14 pm
Kiss Army helps raise $1Mil for a us military museum (http://news.yahoo.com/kiss-raises-1-million-oregon-military-museum-212802889.html)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: stevewizzle on September 16, 2014, 12:01:31 am
mark kozelek has become the most annoying person in music in 2014. his lyrics are already whiney enough to begin with, and now he's pouring it on with a bunch of pointless, entitled stage banter. 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on September 16, 2014, 09:20:53 am
mark kozelek has become the most annoying person in music in 2014. his lyrics are already whiney enough to begin with, and now he's pouring it on with a bunch of pointless, entitled stage banter. 

I agree... what a boring douche.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: bearman🐻 on September 16, 2014, 11:44:02 am
mark kozelek has become the most annoying person in music in 2014. his lyrics are already whiney enough to begin with, and now he's pouring it on with a bunch of pointless, entitled stage banter. 

I agree... what a boring douche.

I think it's pretty funny he's getting all this attention. He has ALWAYS been cranky, bitter, and confrontational. Entitled? More than Kanye? Please. I think Mr. West takes the award for boring douche.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on September 16, 2014, 12:43:28 pm
mark kozelek has become the most annoying person in music in 2014. his lyrics are already whiney enough to begin with, and now he's pouring it on with a bunch of pointless, entitled stage banter. 

I agree... what a boring douche.

I think it's pretty funny he's getting all this attention. He has ALWAYS been cranky, bitter, and confrontational. Entitled? More than Kanye? Please. I think Mr. West takes the award for boring douche.

I'm not arguing that.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: stevewizzle on September 16, 2014, 01:01:46 pm
mark kozelek has become the most annoying person in music in 2014. his lyrics are already whiney enough to begin with, and now he's pouring it on with a bunch of pointless, entitled stage banter. 

I agree... what a boring douche.

I think it's pretty funny he's getting all this attention. He has ALWAYS been cranky, bitter, and confrontational. Entitled? More than Kanye? Please. I think Mr. West takes the award for boring douche.

I'm not arguing that.

yeah definitely not arguing that.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on September 18, 2014, 10:36:56 am

I saw PG in 2007 or 2008 at Univ of Maryland.

I saw him a few times too. I was surprised that he was not particularly tight on solo piano. I know he is a composer, but I expected that songs he wrote 30 years ago had many years of practice. In any case, I still prefer to see the composer playing than a "cover" artist, as we would say for rock music.

Classical composers are often not very good players of their own works. Mahler wrote some great symphonies but was considered a mediocre conductor of them. After all, much of what they write is for instruments that they themselves cannot play.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Rogue Riderhood on September 23, 2014, 01:27:15 pm
Can someone please explain why so many of you want to see the Replacements?  Is it for the nostalgia factor?  I watched their song on Fallon the other night, after a coworker raved on and on about it, and I found it to not be something I would pay money to witness live and barely made it through the one song.

I am not hating, I am just curious as to their (current) appeal. 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 23, 2014, 02:55:22 pm
Is it for the nostalgia factor? 
Yes, absolutely. I never got to see them because I was too young and its a total "imagine what it would've been like to be there way back when" thing.

This doesn't preclude them from being really, really good, btw. (Not implying you're saying that, but lots of people want to paint it as an either-or.)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on September 24, 2014, 07:14:23 am
Bands that were really, really good during reformation:
Mission of Burma
Dinosaur Jr.
My Bloody Valentine

Who else?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 24, 2014, 09:34:41 am
Who else?
Interesting topic.

Guided By Voices
Texas Is The Reason
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: James Ford on September 24, 2014, 09:39:57 am
Iggy and the Stooges

Who else?
Interesting topic.

Guided By Voices
Texas Is The Reason

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on September 24, 2014, 09:53:22 am
Iggy and the Stooges

depends which incarnation... some were better than others.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: James Ford on September 24, 2014, 09:55:54 am
This is the one I saw at Bumbershoot 2005.

(http://www.nadamucho.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/The-Stooges-at-Bumbershoot-Photo-by-Peter-Whitfield.jpg)
Iggy and the Stooges

depends which incarnation... some were better than others.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on September 24, 2014, 09:59:35 am
for killsaly/rogue/etc.:

Claiming to like Aphex Twin makes comeback
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/arts-entertainment/claiming-to-like-aphex-twin-makes-comeback-2014092490978

MUSIC listeners are pretending to enjoy the challenging electronica of Aphex Twin for the first time since the 1990s.

The artist released Syro this week, his first album since 2001 when his fanbase secretly preferred All Saints.

Music blogger Tom Booker said: ?My favourite track? Well, probably CIRCLONT14 [152.97] [shrymoming mix] if I had to choose, but really it?s the kind of album you listen to from start to finish which I?m sure I will one day.

?Let?s just say I like them all.?

Self-styled experimental music fan Stephen Malley said: ?Is it really 13 years since the last Aphex album? Because I still haven?t managed to lose my virginity.

?Cultivating an extensive knowledge of obscure, confrontational electronic music really is the most ineffective way to impress girls.?

Richard D James, who records as Aphex Twin, said: ?I thought recording an album of unabashed EDM stadium bangers, with guest vocals from Miley Cyrus, Olly Murs and Pitbull, would confound the critics.

?But it?s like they all wrote their reviews without even bothering to stick it on.?

lol ;D
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on September 24, 2014, 03:43:27 pm
The Feelies have put on excellent shows the few times I've caught them since they have been back.

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Rogue Riderhood on September 24, 2014, 06:41:02 pm
Bands that were really, really good during reformation:
Mission of Burma
Dinosaur Jr.
My Bloody Valentine

Who else?
Sebadoh.  Quicksand.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on September 24, 2014, 07:15:20 pm
phish,
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Rogue Riderhood on September 24, 2014, 07:50:31 pm
Swans
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on September 25, 2014, 12:17:53 am
Urban Outfitters sell more vinyl records than any other retailer (http://www.factmag.com/2014/09/25/urban-outfitters-sell-more-vinyl-records-than-any-other-retailer/)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on September 25, 2014, 09:15:29 am
Love this! (http://thequietus.com/articles/16052-drew-daniel-matmos-soft-pink-truth-anti-favourite-albums-essay)

Drew Daniel's 13 reasons for not making a favorite 13 albums list.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Rogue Riderhood on September 25, 2014, 12:23:29 pm
Vas needs to read that. He is always talking about best this, worst that, etc in regards to music.

Quote
Reason Eight: It Encourages The False Idea That "Best", "Better Than?" And "Worse Than?" Apply to Art.
Question: What is Neil Young's On The Beach album like?

Answer: It's his best!

If you think this is a not a good answer to that question, you're right. The word "Best" is just a placeholder for a swirl of emotions, a specific historical narrative, a shaky web of criteria, as relayed by a person who is changing all the time as new experiences influence them. All of which is interesting. The "best" part is not. If "best" only begs the question, the same is also true for talk about "better than . . . " or "worse than . . . " that afflicts the scene when we explain why one record is on a list and another is left off. Each record proposes to you the terms by which it might be judged. Some people aim high and wipe out, some people aim low and nail it, but who decides what constitutes these alleged successes or failures? What is the vantage point from which you determine what is high or low as a goal in the first place? What does "easy" and "difficult" mean when making art? Is a record that sets a supposedly modest goal for itself "worse" than a record that takes huge risks, and attempts impossibly ambitious things? From a labour standpoint, an album of two-chord drone rock with muttered vocals about drugs is easier to make than a witty song-cycle about American imperialism set to calypso and Trinidadian steel band arrangements with orchestral strings. But so what? On some days, Spacemen 3's Sound Of Confusion is clearly "better" to me than Van Dyke Parks' Discover America. On other days, the reverse is just as clearly true. At no point are these shifting wins and losses anything other than a subjective report about my whims, pleasures and needs. List making perpetuates the illusion that those whims are facts worth reporting.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: slappy on September 26, 2014, 10:38:34 am
Reason for Malcolm checking out of AC/DC is a bummer.
http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/music/acdcs-malcolm-young-reportedly-in-care-for-dementia-in-sydney-20140925-10m1hs.html (http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/music/acdcs-malcolm-young-reportedly-in-care-for-dementia-in-sydney-20140925-10m1hs.html)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 26, 2014, 11:06:41 am
Vas needs to read that. He is always talking about best this, worst that, etc in regards to music.

Quote
Reason Eight: It Encourages The False Idea That "Best", "Better Than?" And "Worse Than?" Apply to Art.
Question: What is Neil Young's On The Beach album like?

Answer: It's his best!

If you think this is a not a good answer to that question, you're right. The word "Best" is just a placeholder for a swirl of emotions, a specific historical narrative, a shaky web of criteria, as relayed by a person who is changing all the time as new experiences influence them. All of which is interesting. The "best" part is not. If "best" only begs the question, the same is also true for talk about "better than . . . " or "worse than . . . " that afflicts the scene when we explain why one record is on a list and another is left off. Each record proposes to you the terms by which it might be judged. Some people aim high and wipe out, some people aim low and nail it, but who decides what constitutes these alleged successes or failures? What is the vantage point from which you determine what is high or low as a goal in the first place? What does "easy" and "difficult" mean when making art? Is a record that sets a supposedly modest goal for itself "worse" than a record that takes huge risks, and attempts impossibly ambitious things? From a labour standpoint, an album of two-chord drone rock with muttered vocals about drugs is easier to make than a witty song-cycle about American imperialism set to calypso and Trinidadian steel band arrangements with orchestral strings. But so what? On some days, Spacemen 3's Sound Of Confusion is clearly "better" to me than Van Dyke Parks' Discover America. On other days, the reverse is just as clearly true. At no point are these shifting wins and losses anything other than a subjective report about my whims, pleasures and needs. List making perpetuates the illusion that those whims are facts worth reporting.

I feel like true music fans group albums into "tiers" but do not trifle to attempt to rank records individually.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Rogue Riderhood on September 26, 2014, 11:29:14 am
What makes one a "true music fan"?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 26, 2014, 11:33:26 am
What makes one a "true music fan"?
Its a joke. You (I think it was you) called me out about my proclivity to rank things in tiers a few years back.

Anyway, new Thom Yorke record today, I guess.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Rogue Riderhood on September 26, 2014, 11:42:25 am
I don't think that was me.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: bearman🐻 on September 30, 2014, 09:24:31 pm
Loved the Descendents/ALL movie "Filmage". Highly recommend it.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on September 30, 2014, 11:13:12 pm
This is pretty awesome/funny. (http://nyti.ms/1sA3N8k)

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 01, 2014, 11:47:59 am
This is pretty awesome/funny. (http://nyti.ms/1sA3N8k)


I do think the quote by Krugman is classic
"a young band that makes me want to drop acid and wear tie-died clothing, which is a great feeling when you?re 61."
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on October 02, 2014, 03:14:29 pm
(http://www.relix.com/images/sized/images/uploads/ryanbryan-600x299.JPg)

Video: Ryan Adams Covers Bryan Adams, Internet Explodes (http://www.relix.com/blogs/detail/video_ryan_adams_covers_bryan_adams_internet_explodes)

Finally. As Ryan Adams kicked off his U.S. tour in Santa Barbara, CA and surprised everyone when he closed the show with a take on "Run To You" by none other than Bryan Adams from 1984's Reckless whose album cover bares an eerie resemblance to Ryan's new album cover, as you can see above. The bromance has been brewing between these two, as they're both active on Twitter and even found themselves hanging out a the Invictus Games closing ceremony in London.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 02, 2014, 04:10:04 pm
I think he's done summer of 69 too
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 02, 2014, 04:12:55 pm
I think he's done summer of 69 too
Considering he famously lost his shit when some guy requested it like 10 years ago, he's really come around.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on October 02, 2014, 04:14:54 pm
I think he's done summer of 69 too
Considering he famously lost his shit when some guy requested it like 10 years ago, he's really come around.

Drugs are a helluva drug.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on October 05, 2014, 10:49:35 am
http://gawker.com/an-adorable-10-year-old-interviewed-j-mascis-and-it-was-1642462364
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on October 05, 2014, 08:35:43 pm
Ha ha!

NFL's Deal with Bose Prohibits Players from Wearing 'Beats by Dre' Headphones (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2221161-nfls-deal-with-bose-prohibits-players-from-wearing-beats-by-dre-headphones)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 05, 2014, 11:43:11 pm
I think he's done summer of 69 too
Considering he famously lost his shit when some guy requested it like 10 years ago, he's really come around.

Drugs are a helluva drug.
Roseland Theater, Portland, OR, USA on November 13, 2001 (http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/ryan-adams/2001/roseland-theater-portland-or-1bde1184.html)
although his anger with the request I'm sure started way back in the 90's
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: James Ford on October 06, 2014, 08:49:50 am
musical equals

(http://www.relix.com/images/sized/images/uploads/ryanbryan-600x299.JPg)

Video: Ryan Adams Covers Bryan Adams, Internet Explodes (http://www.relix.com/blogs/detail/video_ryan_adams_covers_bryan_adams_internet_explodes)

Finally. As Ryan Adams kicked off his U.S. tour in Santa Barbara, CA and surprised everyone when he closed the show with a take on "Run To You" by none other than Bryan Adams from 1984's Reckless whose album cover bares an eerie resemblance to Ryan's new album cover, as you can see above. The bromance has been brewing between these two, as they're both active on Twitter and even found themselves hanging out a the Invictus Games closing ceremony in London.

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on October 06, 2014, 09:48:54 am
Ha ha!

NFL's Deal with Bose Prohibits Players from Wearing 'Beats by Dre' Headphones (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2221161-nfls-deal-with-bose-prohibits-players-from-wearing-beats-by-dre-headphones)

lol

you should change your screen name to "BoseNotBeats" ;D
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: stevewizzle on October 08, 2014, 03:55:50 pm
my favorite reaction RE:kozelek so far comes from gorilla vs. bear:

 chris cantalini @gorillavsbear  ·  Oct 7
this fake kozelek/war on drugs feud is more important to p4k than the time morrissey might have had twitter but then it turned out he didn't
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on October 08, 2014, 03:59:58 pm
i enjoy the concept . . . hate the music.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 08, 2014, 04:32:52 pm
my favorite reaction RE:kozelek so far comes from gorilla vs. bear:

 chris cantalini @gorillavsbear  ·  Oct 7
this fake kozelek/war on drugs feud is more important to p4k than the time morrissey might have had twitter but then it turned out he didn't

Nice.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on October 08, 2014, 06:54:03 pm
Meredith Graves writes a pretty good essay on the Kozelek thing (http://pitchfork.com/thepitch/515-sun-kil-moon-yells-at-cloud-the-problem-with-male-pattern-violence/)

Drew Daniel counters with a couple good points of his own. (http://twitter.com/dddrewdaniel)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Rogue Riderhood on October 13, 2014, 01:59:45 pm
Ha ha!

NFL's Deal with Bose Prohibits Players from Wearing 'Beats by Dre' Headphones (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2221161-nfls-deal-with-bose-prohibits-players-from-wearing-beats-by-dre-headphones)
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24749691/cam-newton-ignores-colin-kaepernick-fine-wears-beats-headphones

Why are people obsessed with Beats?  They are not that great and definitely not worth a 10K fine.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on October 13, 2014, 02:17:01 pm
oh please, you don't know the answer to that?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: vansmack on October 15, 2014, 08:11:41 pm
Glen Campbell's Last Video is Heartbreakingly Sad (http://rare.us/story/glen-campbells-new-video-for-not-gonna-miss-you-is-heartbreakingly-sad/)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on October 15, 2014, 09:06:22 pm
The great Ned Raggett writes about NIN's best album on its 25th anniversary. (http://thequietus.com/articles/16461-nine-inch-nails-nin-pretty-hate-machine-review-anniversary)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: slappy on October 16, 2014, 11:10:18 am
Glen Campbell's Last Video is Heartbreakingly Sad (http://rare.us/story/glen-campbells-new-video-for-not-gonna-miss-you-is-heartbreakingly-sad/)

It's good, but I immediate went to research if it was a cover of a lost Big Star b-side by Chris Bell. It would've been more appropriate if the producer went more with Glen's own "Wichita Lineman"/"By The Time ..." melancholy vibe.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on October 16, 2014, 11:31:21 am
http://blog.theanimalrescuesite.com/scooter-music-video/

recognize, fool.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: ggw on October 16, 2014, 11:55:09 am
Meredith Graves writes a pretty good essay on the Kozelek thing (http://pitchfork.com/thepitch/515-sun-kil-moon-yells-at-cloud-the-problem-with-male-pattern-violence/)


Reads like a high school sociology paper.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 16, 2014, 01:05:46 pm
so Ryan comes to the 930...doesn't play a single song before Cold Roses
but on the rest of the tour he's been doing all sorts of great stuff
3 from Gold, 2 from Heartbreaker and even whiskeytown song (james ford soils his pants)

riverside-theater -milwaukee-wi-setlist 10/14/14

1. Gimme Something Good 
2. Let It Ride 
3. Stay With Me 
4. Dirty Rain 
5. This House Is Not For Sale 
6. Fix It 
7. New York, New York 
8. Improv Song: "Security Guard From Milwaukee" 
9. Shadows 
10. A Kiss Before I Go 
11. Dear Chicago 
12. When The Stars Go Blue 
13. Lucky Now 
14. Do I Wait 
15. Oh My Sweet Carolina 
16. I See Monsters 
17. Kim 
18. Yesterday's News  (Whiskeytown song) (First time live since 2000.)
19. La Cienega Just Smiled 
20. Am I Safe 
Encore:
21. Come Pick Me Up 


video and story of it (http://www.relix.com/blogs/detail/video_ryan_adams_busts_out_whiskeytown_material_toasts_to_the_security_guard)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: K8teebug on October 16, 2014, 01:18:40 pm
Meredith Graves writes a pretty good essay on the Kozelek thing (http://pitchfork.com/thepitch/515-sun-kil-moon-yells-at-cloud-the-problem-with-male-pattern-violence/)


Reads like a high school sociology paper.

I could give a crap about this whole thing!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on October 16, 2014, 05:13:00 pm
"a has-been at a mere 35..."
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Rogue Riderhood on October 22, 2014, 01:34:22 pm
http://www.citypaper.com/music/bcp-chill-harder-an-indepth-conversation-between-dope-body-and-roomrunner-20141021,0,5507312.story

Awesome group interview with Dope Body and Roomrunner about music, the baltimore scene, upcoming releases, making it...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: James Ford on October 22, 2014, 01:48:43 pm
Making what?

http://www.citypaper.com/music/bcp-chill-harder-an-indepth-conversation-between-dope-body-and-roomrunner-20141021,0,5507312.story

Awesome group interview with Dope Body and Roomrunner about music, the baltimore scene, upcoming releases, making it...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Rogue Riderhood on October 22, 2014, 01:50:38 pm
What do you mean?

Making it.  Succeeding.  Living off of art. 

You have never heard someone say "made it", or "making it", or "trying to make it" in regards to being in a band?

http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/make+it
Quote
2. to be successful, especially in a job
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Rogue Riderhood on October 22, 2014, 01:53:47 pm
I am going to assume you did not read the article, nor will you.  Also you probably don't care for either band.  So why do you care what I meant with my post?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: James Ford on October 22, 2014, 01:57:37 pm
Ah, I see. I thought "making it" was maybe a coy reference to something else.

What do you mean?

Making it.  Succeeding.  Living off of art. 

You have never heard someone say "made it", or "making it", or "trying to make it" in regards to being in a band?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on October 22, 2014, 02:17:56 pm
Meredith Graves writes a pretty good essay on the Kozelek thing (http://pitchfork.com/thepitch/515-sun-kil-moon-yells-at-cloud-the-problem-with-male-pattern-violence/)


Reads like a high school sociology paper.
Oh so this is where Joe got this dig that he made last night.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on October 22, 2014, 02:20:56 pm
Yeah, the whole part about him being too old or whatever was ridiculous and unnecessary.
"a has-been at a mere 35..."
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Rogue Riderhood on October 22, 2014, 02:21:39 pm
Meredith Graves writes a pretty good essay on the Kozelek thing (http://pitchfork.com/thepitch/515-sun-kil-moon-yells-at-cloud-the-problem-with-male-pattern-violence/)


Reads like a high school sociology paper.
Oh so this is where Joe got this dig that he made last night.

WHat the Chris comment?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on October 22, 2014, 02:28:05 pm
No. When you walked away, he said that she writes like a high school student.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on October 22, 2014, 10:10:06 pm
First it was The High back on the scene and now I find out Cud is back... 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on October 22, 2014, 10:28:44 pm
what, is up with, bands charging a price tag, plus fifty cents?  what, does that, extra fifty cents, get you?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: emmanuel on October 23, 2014, 01:12:23 pm
My friends waited 3 hours front row to see Ben Frost and he decided not to play.

https://twitter.com/ethermachines

What an *@##

(This venue has the best staff and most friendly sound persons).
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Rogue Riderhood on October 28, 2014, 01:14:01 am
http://www.rolandus.com/go/gaia_berklee_giveaway/
Roland Gaia giveaway
Answer the question.
It's easy, but here is a hint, only watch the last minute of the video for the answer (or just know what it should be)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on October 28, 2014, 07:22:05 pm
This (http://new.livestream.com/accounts/2628231/fmc2014/videos/66385981) happened earlier today.

That Astra Taylor book sounds like a great read. I'll probably grab it. And...Katie!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on October 28, 2014, 09:08:16 pm
Not sure about this. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7CP2zxS4zo#_=_)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on October 29, 2014, 07:15:21 am
Not sure about this. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7CP2zxS4zo#_=_)


My thought is if you are wanting to sound like the pet shop boys, then work with them.. this sounds like someone attempting to be trendy remix on soundcloud.... A dance pop shift in sound would work for me, this track just sounds far to kitchen sink to me
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: bearman🐻 on October 29, 2014, 09:33:54 am
Not sure about this. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7CP2zxS4zo#_=_)


My thought is if you are wanting to sound like the pet shop boys, then work with them.. this sounds like someone attempting to be trendy remix on soundcloud.... A dance pop shift in sound would work for me, this track just sounds far to kitchen sink to me

Totally agreed. When I heard it I felt the urge to put on "Stars of Track and Field". I can totally get on board with "Your Cover's Blown" and "Electronic Renaissance". But this is just boring.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on October 29, 2014, 10:57:49 am
Don't get me wrong that funky little guitar bit at beginning signals the start of something fun, but it quickly gets lost into a neo-disco mess.. would dig hearing a Johnny Marr or Pet Shop Boys remix of it
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on October 29, 2014, 04:57:14 pm

A Momentary Lapse of Reason is my favorite Pink Floyd record.

Not a Floyd album.... read up on it.. Gilmour hired literally like 80 studio musicians to come up with something that would sound like Pink Floyd. Not even Rick Wright was an "official" Floyd member at the time

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Rogue Riderhood on October 29, 2014, 05:17:50 pm
I stand by my post.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Rogue Riderhood on October 29, 2014, 05:19:16 pm
The Division Bell is my second favorite.  Would you like to discuss this one?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Rogue Riderhood on October 29, 2014, 05:21:15 pm
Dark Side of the Moon is my third favorite.
 

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Rogue Riderhood on October 29, 2014, 05:22:41 pm
Why do you care so much what I like, at least to the point where you need to comment negatively on my choices?

A Momentary Lapse of Reason is my favorite Pink Floyd record.

Not a Floyd album.... read up on it.. Gilmour hired literally like 80 studio musicians to come up with something that would sound like Pink Floyd. Not even Rick Wright was an "official" Floyd member at the time

if your read Salman Rushdie's memoir, Joseph Anton, its hard to think too highly of Yusuf...I would never pay money to see him....of course, if you read Salman Rushdie's memoir, Joseph Anton, its also hard to think too highly of Salman Rushdie...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: vansmack on October 29, 2014, 05:26:02 pm
Top Cover Songs, according to the Brits:

http://www.avclub.com/article/british-voters-say-pet-shop-boys-had-best-cover-so-211069
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on October 29, 2014, 05:29:11 pm
I think Meddle is my favorite now...Sort of overplayed Dark Side...

the first Floyd album might be my second favorite..

Not a fan of the Wall

I don't think one should get so touchy because its pointed out, correctly, that AMLOR is a forgery.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on October 29, 2014, 05:30:20 pm
Top Cover Songs, according to the Brits:

http://www.avclub.com/article/british-voters-say-pet-shop-boys-had-best-cover-so-211069

That is good....

Their cover of Where the Street have no name is also really good....I think it segues into Can't Take My Eyes Off of you..
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: vansmack on October 29, 2014, 05:35:49 pm
That is good....

That's not even the best version of that song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7f189Z0v0Y
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Rogue Riderhood on October 29, 2014, 07:34:55 pm
I don't think one should get so touchy because its pointed out, correctly, that AMLOR is a forgery.
LOL

I dont know why you carried this to a second thread.

A Momentary Lapse of Reason RULES.

David Gilmour RULES.

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on October 29, 2014, 07:50:41 pm
I don't think one should get so touchy because its pointed out, correctly, that AMLOR is a forgery.
LOL

I dont know why you carried this to a second thread.

A Momentary Lapse of Reason RULES.

David Gilmour RULES.



I didn't want to clutter the Hey Seth thread....I think it should be left open for Seth stuff...like asking for shows or saying thank you

If you think A Momentary Lapse of Reason...

It is basically a David Gilmour album...Nick Mason hardly plays on it cause his drum chops were so pitiful they got other guys ..the usual session dudes (Keltner, etc.).. Rick Wright hardly plays on it (he wasn't even in the band!)... its Gilmour with studio musicians trying hard to sound like Floyd...... Why? Because Gilmour's solo career had been a bust so he had to go back to the "Pink Floyd" moniker...

To call it a Pink Floyd album is ridiculous.....

Sorry if I'm trampling on your heroes.... I'm not into fanboy shit.. its important to read about albums and learn about their history

You shouldn't feel insulted or anything.. plenty of people don't know the source of AMLOR and aren't able to hear its a forgery..
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Rogue Riderhood on October 29, 2014, 07:55:11 pm
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Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Rogue Riderhood on October 29, 2014, 07:55:19 pm
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Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Rogue Riderhood on October 29, 2014, 07:55:29 pm
How do you know I dont know the history of the album?

Or the band?

You make a lot of assumptions.

i dont care if it is mainly a Gilmour solo album.  It is my favorite one under the Pink Floyd name, regardless of who played on it.

Do you not think I might know something about a band I love?

YOu think i dont know about the whole "Waters vs Gilmour" side of Pink Floyd?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Rogue Riderhood on October 29, 2014, 07:56:03 pm
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Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Rogue Riderhood on October 29, 2014, 07:56:23 pm
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Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Rogue Riderhood on October 29, 2014, 07:57:01 pm
What if a person's favorite album by the Smashing Pumpkins was Oceania? 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on October 29, 2014, 08:01:37 pm
Do you not think I might know something about a band I love?

Well evidently not..how can you call AMLOR a Pink FLoyd album? Barely any Mason or Wright (as a hired hand not even a band member)? Do you know know that Gilmour says that Floyd without Wright is not Floyd.... well, for AMLOR there's hardly any Wright at all and he's not even in the band!..

But don't feel bad about it.. just read, learn.....admitting ignorance is the first step...often times its hard for people so they hide behind bluster of the "how do you know i don't know about the history of the album..." or some such...

Gilmour is a fantastic guitarist and I love his singing voice....But I think even he would call AMLOR a forgery....

Don't be so touchy.

And if Gilmour comes to DC I'll try to check it out myself...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Rogue Riderhood on October 29, 2014, 08:02:39 pm
Do you not think I might know something about a band I love?
Well evidently not..how can you call AMLOR a Pink FLoyd album?
It says Pink Floyd on the album cover. 

It is listed in their discography. 

One of their main songwriters (and my favorite member) was able to release the album under the name. 
He continued to stay in the band for the rest of their existence. The band played those songs on tour. 

The Division Bell was my next favorite, and yes, it features Mason and Wright and is more "Pink Floyd" than AMLOR, but what does it matter? It exists and I like it. 

I was able to pick a favorite based on what I liked when I heard the songs, and not any of the drama behind anything, because all of that was old news by the time I became a fan. I became a fan when Pulse was released.

Your definition of what is and isn't a Pink Floyd album is of no consequence to me.  I don't see why I even need to defend my tastes, nor what I know about any bands.

Thanks for calling me ignorant, that is really nice of you.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Rogue Riderhood on October 29, 2014, 08:02:58 pm
whatever.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: shemptiness on October 29, 2014, 08:12:51 pm
But will Gilmour come to Maryland or Virginia?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Rogue Riderhood on October 29, 2014, 08:13:13 pm
My vote is for Rams Head Annapolis.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on October 29, 2014, 08:21:24 pm
My vote is for Rams Head Annapolis.

That will never happen.... think 2000-3000 capacity and he may not play DC area at all period... Strathmore and Warner come closest but not sure of Strathmore's capacity...

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Rogue Riderhood on October 29, 2014, 08:22:09 pm
That was a joke. Man.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on October 29, 2014, 08:23:48 pm
whatever.

I can see you're hurting and I'm sorry for that.. you're a nice guy... and a valued member of the 930 Forum community (even if you keep changing your name like you're running from the law or something).....evidently a little young but you'll learn that AMLOR is a turd in the Pink Floyd canon....
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on October 29, 2014, 08:25:33 pm
That was a joke. Man.

Don't feel ashamed because you proposed something that could never happen and didn't realize how crazy it was..don't run away from it..its ok to make mistakes... not everyone realizes the types of places Gilmour plays.. and if AMLOR is your favorite Floyd album you may not even be aware that they are a stadium band and Gilmour usually plays big theaters (and that's downscaling for him)... its ok man.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Rogue Riderhood on October 29, 2014, 09:06:41 pm
What's your problem?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on October 29, 2014, 09:10:44 pm
What's your problem?

What do you mean? We're talking about Pink Floyd, right? Or am I detecting a bit of unpleasantness in the air here?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: James Ford on October 29, 2014, 09:11:23 pm
No love for Pink Floyd's best album Wish You Were Here?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Rogue Riderhood on October 29, 2014, 09:13:12 pm
Do you not read your posts?

You are really coming off douchey.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Rogue Riderhood on October 29, 2014, 09:14:07 pm
Quote
evidently a little young but you'll learn that AMLOR is a turd in the Pink Floyd canon....


Don't feel ashamed because you proposed something that could never happen and didn't realize how crazy it was..don't run away from it..its ok to make mistakes... not everyone realizes the types of places Gilmour plays.. and if AMLOR is your favorite Floyd album you may not even be aware that they are a stadium band and Gilmour usually plays big theaters (and that's downscaling for him)... its ok man.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Rogue Riderhood on October 29, 2014, 09:14:39 pm
You keep calling me ignorant, or implying that I am stupid. 

So, what is your problem?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Rogue Riderhood on October 29, 2014, 09:15:54 pm
You also attack my music taste. 

You like the horrible (to me) band, Antemasque, enough to make a thread about them, so you should be the last person to judge someone's taste in music
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on October 29, 2014, 09:16:05 pm
No love for Pink Floyd's best album Wish You Were Here?

of course.. its a great album....what else is there to say? It is the last Floyd album with some balance.... by Animals Waters is running the show too much...


Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Rogue Riderhood on October 29, 2014, 09:16:22 pm
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Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Rogue Riderhood on October 29, 2014, 09:17:00 pm
No need to fight, we are all friends here!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on October 29, 2014, 09:17:55 pm
You also attack my music taste. 

You like the horrible (to me) band, Antemasque, enough to make a thread about them, so you should be the last person to judge someone's taste in music

huh? I don't even know what Antemasque sounds like.. I mean that's why I started the thread..
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Rogue Riderhood on October 29, 2014, 09:18:43 pm
Well it sucks.  You wasted some of the internet.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 30, 2014, 04:34:33 pm
So 'song for josh' did not make it to the new frank turner The Third Three Years (http://www.1.xtramilerecordings.com/news/2014/10/2/frank-turner-announces-the-third-three-years)
looks good tho

Full tracklisting is below:

1 Somebody To Love (Queen cover ? RSD '12 7?)   
2 Hits & Mrs (Losing Days EP)   
3 Sweet Albion Blues (Polaroid Picture EP)   
4 Riot Song (Fuck the Fire EP)   
5 Something of Freedom (demo)   
6 Fields of June (w/ Emily Barker/Red Clay Halo)   
7 Happy New Year (w/ Jon Snodgrass)   
8 American Girl (Tom Petty cover ? home demo)   
9 There Are Bad Times Just Around the Corner (Noel Coward cover ? Franz Nicolay split EP)   
10 Pancho & Lefty (Townes Van Zandt cover ? Spotify Session EP w/ Jim Eno)   
11 Big Foot (The Weakerthans cover ? home demo)
12 Live and Let Die (Paul McCartney/Wings cover ? iTunes session)
13 The Corner (Cory Branan cover)
14 Keira (Tony Sly cover ? 'The Song of Tony Sly' tribute album)
15 Plain Sailing Weather (w/Matt Nasir ? The Cutting Room sessions)
16 Tell Tale Signs (w/Matt Nasir ? iTunes sessions)
17 The Way I Tend To Be (w/Matt Nasir ? iTunes sessions)
18 The Ballad of Me and My Friends (live from Twin Cities, Minnesota)
19 Broken Piano (home demo)
20 Born To Run (Bruce Springsteen cover ? The Cutting Room sessions)
21 Dan's Song (full band - live)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Rogue Riderhood on November 06, 2014, 06:03:17 pm
http://www.citypaper.com/arts/artsandentertainment/bcp-blinded-with-science-hopkins-brings-in-thomas-dolby-to-do-a-neighborhood-and-evangelize-for-its-trou-20141104,0,6744251.story

http://www.citypaper.com/blogs/the-news-hole/bcp-the-problem-isnt-if-thomas-dolby-fails-its-that-we-still-dont-know-how-hopkins-intends-for-him-to-succeed-20141106,0,7523058.story

So Thomas Dolby is going to magically transform Station North?  And turn it into: "as a major hub of innovation in the intersection between the arts and technology"?

Good luck Thomas!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Rogue Riderhood on November 12, 2014, 01:40:58 pm
From the rebuttal of Daniel Ek against Taylore Swift pulling her catalog off of Spotify; I only pulled one part out of it that pertains to myself, feel free to discuss any of it:

https://news.spotify.com/se/2014/11/11/2-billion-and-counting/
Quote
Today we have more than 50 million active users of whom 12.5 million are subscribers each paying $120 per year. That?s three times more than the average paying music consumer spent in the past.
I don't pay for (or use) Spotify and must be more than an average paying music consumer. 

Should our music consumption money include merch, ticket purchases, and music purchases (physical and digital)?

I did a quick estimate and the money I spend on merch, music, and shows in a year is an estimated total of $1680 (it probably is a lot higher, I used the estimates of 1 $15 show a week =, $10 for music a week, and $10 for merch a week; numbers are sometimes higher, and sometimes lower - lately I have been trying to limit merch purchases, though I have still picked up some t shirts and posters this year). 

So the average person spends $40 annually, according to that guy; so people who spend $10 a month are the heroes of the music industry? 

So that makes me, and people like me, superheroes of the music industry?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on November 12, 2014, 02:01:45 pm
So that makes me, and people like me, superheroes of the music industry?
Uh, probably yes, actually. You're nowhere near representative of an "average" music fan. Even by the highly skewed metrics of this community, you're still probably one of the most "supportive" fans.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on November 13, 2014, 10:46:06 am
From some clickbait link, 12 Flawless Albums that Only Have Great Songs:

Kind of Blue - Miles Davis
Illinois - Sufjan Stevens
De-Loused in the Comatorium - The Mars Volta
Revolver - The Beatles
2001 - Dr. Dre
Jar of Flies - Alice in Chains
Lateralus - Tool
Siamese Dream - Smashing Pumpkins
Rumours - Fleetwood Mac
Boston - Boston
OK Computer - Radiohead
Graceland - Paul Simon
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on November 13, 2014, 10:52:47 am
List fail no Big Star or Love here
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on November 13, 2014, 11:21:40 am
Illinois - Sufjan Stevens
...
De-Loused in the Comatorium - The Mars Volta
Lateralus - Tool
There's filler galore on Illinois, and the second two I highlighted are hysterically terrible records.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Unsanity on November 14, 2014, 04:00:15 am
Nah man...De-Loused is awesome if you are into that kind of thing. Its ear grating to almost everyone I know. They can't stand any of it not even for a minute. But to a small contingent this is one of the best albums of the last 15 years.

I cannot comment on Tool though. I don't know if I ever heard anything other than the singles from it.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: bearman🐻 on November 17, 2014, 03:55:28 pm
http://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/nov/17/steve-albinis-keynote-address-at-face-the-music-in-full
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on November 17, 2014, 10:46:01 pm
That industry middle man he says is no more is still there. It's taken the form of the PR industry rather than the record industry. Music doesn't randomly find its way from Bandcamp to Pitchfork. It's a nice thought but no. Yes, it's cheaper/easier to get your music out there than ever before but it's just as easy/cheap for everyone else. Music's still filtered through just as many channels unless you have an influential friend or two. Not to mention the fact that everyone seems to need to have management/a booking agent nowadays from bands that play houses to arena acts. Just ask Seth how often the Club  talks to a band itself as opposed to an agent when booking it.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: ggw on November 17, 2014, 11:33:46 pm
That industry middle man he says is no more is still there. It's taken the form of the PR industry rather than the record industry. Music doesn't randomly find its way from Bandcamp to Pitchfork. It's a nice thought but no. Yes, it's cheaper/easier to get your music out there than ever before but it's just as easy/cheap for everyone else. Music's still filtered through just as many channels unless you have an influential friend or two. Not to mention the fact that everyone seems to need to have management/a booking agent nowadays from bands that play houses to arena acts. Just ask Seth how often the Club  talks to a band itself as opposed to an agent when booking it.


I don't fundamentally disagree with you, but I do think filters serve a purpose.  Maybe I am just getting old, but I don't have the time to invest in discovering stuff on my own as much as I used to.  So I rely more on filters/middlemen than I did in the past.  And I think there are a lot more middlemen and a lot more granular filters today, so things aren't totally as bad as they once were.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on November 17, 2014, 11:55:40 pm
Oh I'm not saying there's anything wrong with the filters at all. Albini (who appears to have a problem with them) seems to think that they no longer exist which is ridiculous.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on November 18, 2014, 12:01:05 am
I also wonder what his beef with Prince is. Thought everyone liked Prince.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on November 18, 2014, 08:53:47 am
I just watched an interview with riff raff.  I'm stupid now.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on November 18, 2014, 12:02:50 pm
I filter all my new music recommendations through hutch.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on November 18, 2014, 02:34:29 pm
I filter all my new music recommendations through hutch.

gotta say I'm probably not the best guy for "new music"

great "oldies" filter though!

 ;D
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on November 30, 2014, 07:41:36 pm
Was unsure as to where else to put this.

https://twitter.com/killquilty/status/539112639096688643
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Rogue Riderhood on November 30, 2014, 07:45:38 pm
I saw they were doing that... That is cool it is nearly $1000.  It was a couple hundred the last time I saw something about it.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on December 02, 2014, 05:22:40 pm
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g16/beetsnotbeats/audio_001_zps8e70d24d.jpg) (http://s52.photobucket.com/user/beetsnotbeats/media/audio_001_zps8e70d24d.jpg.html)

Audio, July 1970, Vol. 54, No. 7, page 46
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on December 10, 2014, 11:51:41 pm
Oh wow. This is out. (https://vimeo.com/ondemand/beautifulnoise) I remember Jaguar first posting about it here many years ago.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: miss pretentious on December 11, 2014, 12:00:27 am
Oh wow. This is out. (https://vimeo.com/ondemand/beautifulnoise) I remember Jaguar first posting about it here many years ago.


thank you for the post!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on December 11, 2014, 12:10:08 am
Oops, it wasn't Jag. It was Hoya. (http://forum.930.com/index.php?topic=10285.0)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on December 17, 2014, 06:19:16 pm
Happy belated anniversary, #tripmetal. (http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/crossfade/2013/12/wolf_eyes_interview_basel_miami_2013.php) You have made the world (mostly Twitter) a slightly funnier place.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on December 18, 2014, 05:44:44 pm
eMusic: 1998-2014? (http://www.digitalmusicnews.com/permalink/2014/12/18/emusic-1998-2014)

If you?ve never heard of eMusic, then maybe that?s the point.  Here?s an email leaked from inside digital distributor The Orchard to Digital Music News concerning the struggling music ?e-tailer??
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on December 18, 2014, 05:56:32 pm
I would be a serious sad panda if emusic went bust..
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on December 18, 2014, 05:57:12 pm
eMusic: 1998-2014? (http://www.digitalmusicnews.com/permalink/2014/12/18/emusic-1998-2014)

If you?ve never heard of eMusic, then maybe that?s the point.  Here?s an email leaked from inside digital distributor The Orchard to Digital Music News concerning the struggling music ?e-tailer??
Kosmo gently weeps and says "Goodnite Sweet Prince" to no one in particular.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on December 18, 2014, 05:57:34 pm
I would be a serious sad panda if emusic went bust..
See my above comment.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on December 18, 2014, 06:36:42 pm
Billy Corgan: 'Nobody believes I made a three-star record. Nobody!'  (http://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/dec/18/billy-corgan-smashing-pumpkins-interview)

Crimony, this guy is so inside himself he's coming back out his own mouth.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on December 18, 2014, 07:45:54 pm
i'm always amused by the people who said that eMusic abandoned the indie music fan when they added major labels... it certainly didn't stop people from downloading all the major label stuff and all the exalted indie labels/bands everyone carries on about are all pitchfork approved "indie"... you rarely ever saw CDBaby indie releases topping any off their charts.

i know emusic has lots of detractors but it absolutely worked for me. i easily follow 50+ labels via the site and never have a problem get my months credits worth.  many of those labels who do not have domestic physical distribution, so eMusic was a way to get at a reasonable price lots of my favorite recent releases.  i have bought a total of five tracks via iTunes, a handful via Amazon and Bandcamp.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: vansmack on December 18, 2014, 08:18:31 pm
Given their business model, it's impressive that they've lasted this long.

I'm sorry Kosmo - I know you were a big fan.  I blame Evil Santa.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on December 18, 2014, 08:54:00 pm
Their Wondering Sound site published a bunch of very good writing over the last few months. I hope that stuff is all archived before they kill it.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Rogue Riderhood on December 19, 2014, 12:27:57 pm
Billy Corgan: 'Nobody believes I made a three-star record. Nobody!'  (http://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/dec/18/billy-corgan-smashing-pumpkins-interview)

Crimony, this guy is so inside himself he's coming back out his own mouth.
I really enjoyed that interview, thank you for posting it.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on December 27, 2014, 03:07:45 pm
Mac Sabbath

Demented McDonald?s Metal Act ?Mac Sabbath? Jam Black Sabbath Fast Food Parodies

http://loudwire.com/mcdonalds-metal-act-mac-sabbath-black-sabbath-fast-food-parodies/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on January 13, 2015, 08:40:52 pm
While she's on a NY kick, Taylor Swift should do a cover of "Down By The River".
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on January 20, 2015, 09:04:03 pm
Crazy idea: let's reopen UMD's Record Co-op, maybe just as a pop-up test run.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on January 29, 2015, 10:52:16 pm
So because I have no life, I was watching "About A Boy" tv show last night and a song comes on that I recognize but can't quite place it.  So I fire up an app and it tells me it's The Black Lips  "I don't wanna go home".  And then I'm confused because Black Lips isn't a band I really listen to, thus further blowing my cred, so I must have heard it in passing.

So imagine my further confusion, when today I was listening to the Curtis Harding album from last year and "I Don't Wanna Go Home" comes on.  I'm thinking so is this a cover that I thought was an original, which would explain why I couldn't quite place the Black Lips version.  Harding's album is a great soul influence with punk/garage outing.

Turns out one would probably call Curtis's take a version, seeing as he co-wrote it with the band...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on January 30, 2015, 11:08:02 am
So because I have no life, I was watching "About A Boy" tv show last night and a song comes on that I recognize but can't quite place it.  So I fire up an app and it tells me it's The Black Lips  "I don't wanna go home".  And then I'm confused because Black Lips isn't a band I really listen to, thus further blowing my cred, so I must have heard it in passing.

So imagine my further confusion, when today I was listening to the Curtis Harding album from last year and "I Don't Wanna Go Home" comes on.  I'm thinking so is this a cover that I thought was an original, which would explain why I couldn't quite place the Black Lips version.  Harding's album is a great soul influence with punk/garage outing.

Turns out one would probably call Curtis's take a version, seeing as he co-wrote it with the band...

So because I have no life, I went to my kid's middle school dance recital last night, and this number starts that I recognize but I can't quite place it.  Turns out it its a solo track from Mickey Hart - probably off of Planet Drum.  They later danced to Massive Attack and Zee Avi (who I had never heard before, but enjoyed).
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: bearman🐻 on January 30, 2015, 11:13:15 am
OK, I'll bite.

So because I have no life, last night I watched " Well Now You're Here, There's No Way Back", a movie about the rise and fall and attempted comeback of Quiet Riot. I've never seen a band out-Spinal Tap Spinal Tap, but lo and behold, mission accomplished. Bravo, Quiet Riot.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on January 30, 2015, 11:33:55 am
Because I have no life I'm reading the last Bridget Jones novel (if you can call it that)...came out at the end of 2013.. its called Bridget Jones- Mad About the Boy...

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 30, 2015, 12:03:55 pm
because I have no life...I keep coming back to the 930 message board
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on January 30, 2015, 12:26:22 pm
because I have no life...I keep coming back to the 930 message board

POTW
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on January 30, 2015, 12:32:39 pm
Because I have no life I stole an identity off facebook, created a fake newbie account, and solicited people on here to "assist" me in getting a London Grammar autograph.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on January 30, 2015, 08:13:06 pm
I got to say ultimately the new Belle and Sebastian just isn't good enough..it has its moments.... but like half the album is a snoozefest....I want to love it like the classic stuff

If the whole album had been disco/dancy it might have worked...as it is there are a few nice fast paced dancy songs I really like and a lot of substandard stuff like the stuff he's been putting out for years....twee pop, baroque pop, coma inducing pop => crap

I don't know what happened to Stuart Murdoch....sometimes its hard to believe its the same guy.... for three albums and three eps not one false step (except maybe Seymour Stein which I realize some people like)

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on January 30, 2015, 08:23:12 pm
of course I realize Stuart didn't write or sing Seymour Stein.. the "democratization" of hte band was a disaster...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 01, 2015, 10:47:11 pm
Per my Twitter feed, since I was busy DJing, Missy Elliot dropped some Cybrotron/Juan Atkins on a whole bunch of people tonight.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: ggw on February 01, 2015, 11:27:58 pm
So the Patriots use (the somewhat cliched) 'Crazy Train' as they take the field. The Seahawks choose....'Bittersweet Symphony'?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 05, 2015, 12:26:41 am
Diarrhea Planet has the best twitter feed... They repost people tweets of bewilderment over their name and they got a bounty today when they got added to a major festival

https://twitter.com/DiarrheaPlanet

This might be the best 
 
Haywood Jablowme - "yo there's a band named diarrhea planet. Smh"

https://twitter.com/RogueStatusX/status/562871756722286592
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 05, 2015, 04:25:17 pm
so ...no word yet on the on sale date for Courtney Barnett

but I did see that she is opening for Belle & Sebastian a few days later in Kansas
they will be playing dates just 2 days apart in DC

Do we think they will add her as support for their Echostage show eventhough she is headlining the club 2 days earlier?

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 05, 2015, 04:30:53 pm
Do we think they will add her as support for their Echostage show eventhough she is headlining the club 2 days earlier?
Would not seem like the smartest business move. Why would Seth do that?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on February 05, 2015, 04:58:02 pm
So the Patriots use (the somewhat cliched) 'Crazy Train' as they take the field. The Seahawks choose....'Bittersweet Symphony'?

seems kinda fitting, in retrospect...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 05, 2015, 05:58:47 pm
Do we think they will add her as support for their Echostage show eventhough she is headlining the club 2 days earlier?
Would not seem like the smartest business move. Why would Seth do that?
you are probably right...but that is why I don't run a music empire and just blather off on a message board
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 20, 2015, 02:02:13 pm
so Nick cave is selling sick bags  (http://store.thesickbagsong.com/home/the-sick-bag-song-limited-edition-washington-d-c.html)
10 for each city on the North American 22 date tour
Hurry DC Cave fans...a steal at only £750
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on March 20, 2015, 02:11:43 pm
so Nick cave is selling sick bags  (http://store.thesickbagsong.com/home/the-sick-bag-song-limited-edition-washington-d-c.html)
10 for each city on the North American 22 date tour
Hurry DC Cave fans...a steal at only £750
Givenchy, it is not.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on March 20, 2015, 02:32:18 pm
this whole, artists cant make money anymore off the music because of the internet, is get,ting out of hand.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on March 21, 2015, 10:51:09 am
Hey Seth, how about a triple bill of Mr. Mister, MS MR, and MisterWives?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on March 21, 2015, 11:58:39 am
so Nick cave is selling sick bags  (http://store.thesickbagsong.com/home/the-sick-bag-song-limited-edition-washington-d-c.html)
10 for each city on the North American 22 date tour
Hurry DC Cave fans...a steal at only £750

I saw this yesterday and was struck by how far he's from his heroin/scuzz days.....
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: bearman🐻 on March 22, 2015, 10:08:05 am
I saw this yesterday and was struck by how far he's from his heroin/scuzz days.....

You mean this era?
(http://i.guim.co.uk/static/w-620/h--/q-95/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2014/8/29/1409312674684/361e6f64-75c6-4a15-bea7-2bd15485e598-535x540.jpeg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: bearman🐻 on March 22, 2015, 10:13:05 am
Kinda crazy that all four original Ramones are dead, yet these guys Keith Richards and Iggy still roam the planet. Although Iggy cleaned up for the most part by the 80's. His debauchery is the stuff of legend though.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 22, 2015, 10:16:43 pm
apparently there is a demand
Black Flag shirts on every celebrity (http://blackflagshirtsoneverycelebrity.tumblr.com)

(http://www.thestrut.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/blackflag3.jpg)
(http://www.thestrut.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/blackflagclinton.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 24, 2015, 04:27:21 pm
wow...amazon prime has the new Courtney Barnett album!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 25, 2015, 11:25:57 am
Declan Patrick Aloysius Macmanus is releasing a memoir (http://pitchfork.com/news/58946-elvis-costello-announces-memoir/)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 25, 2015, 12:35:29 pm
Um....billboard says....Meet Courtney Barnett, Music's Lena Dunham (https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/6509480/courtney-barnett-interview-sometimes-i-sit-and-think-sometimes-i-just-sit-album)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on March 25, 2015, 12:58:26 pm
Um....billboard says....Meet Courtney Barnett, Music's Lena Dunham (https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/6509480/courtney-barnett-interview-sometimes-i-sit-and-think-sometimes-i-just-sit-album)
I'd rather meet Music's Allison Williams and Zosia Mamet.

Oh, wait, Music's Allison Williams and Zosia Mamet are Allison Williams and Zosia Mamet.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on March 30, 2015, 07:36:19 am
#madonnaandtaylor

Im, a gay, screaming girl
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 30, 2015, 10:32:16 am
Madonna's lips are way over used for onstage hookups

(http://rack.2.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDE1LzAzLzMwL2Q5L01hZG9ubmFUYXlsLjgwNjg5LmdpZgpwCXRodW1iCTEyMDB4OTYwMD4/ac76af72/056/Madonna-Taylor-Kiss.gif)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on March 30, 2015, 02:59:38 pm
I really like, taylor as a streetwalker, style choices.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on April 08, 2015, 09:49:45 am
Who wore it better?

(http://www.brooklynvegan.com/img/as/waxahatchee-ivy-tripp.jpg)

(http://www.scuffletown.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/waxie_maxies.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on April 10, 2015, 10:30:59 am
Band name of the week - Old Dirty Brasstards
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on April 10, 2015, 10:46:22 am
This is nuts

Listen to ODB This charming man by Old Dirty Brasstards #np on #SoundCloud
http://soundcloud.com/old-dirty-brasstards/odb-this-charming-man

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on April 10, 2015, 08:54:37 pm
What Madonna did on fallon . . . Was brilliant.  Hail the que,en.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on April 10, 2015, 10:47:16 pm
so I gave this diarrhea,planet a chance, just now.  listened to aliens in the outfield.  you know what I think . . . I think they are ok, not awesome, but I am sure they bring it live, and I really hear them as nothing more than a grungier version of weezer, or a lazier lesson in explosions in the sky meets dino,saur jr.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 10, 2015, 10:56:52 pm
I can unequivocally say their recorded output is like comparing a lighter to the 4th july
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on April 10, 2015, 11:01:56 pm
thats, saying a lot.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on April 14, 2015, 10:14:05 am
The Bluetones have reunited for a "slight return"
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on April 14, 2015, 03:03:12 pm
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/rename-planet-uranus-diarrhea-planet


Rename the planet Uranus to Diarrhea Planet
One young group of American men is singlehandedly saving American rock and roll and creating good American jobs in the process. Those men call themselves Diarrhea Planet, and they are the embodiment of hope and change in Obama's America.

In thanks to the amazing work that these young Americans are doing, and to inspire millions of other young Americans to strive to the same great heights of guitar shredding and job creation, WE THE PEOPLE propose that the planet Uranus be renamed DIARRHEA PLANET.

I mean, Uranus is kinda halfway to Diarrhea Planet anyway, right? So let's honor America and let any aliens out there know what we really stand for. Diarrhea. And American jobs.

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 14, 2015, 03:20:49 pm
Stand up (or sit down on the throne) and be counted!

With my signature, I hope to inspire millions of other young Americans to strive to the same great heights of guitar shredding!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: bearman🐻 on April 14, 2015, 06:54:28 pm
The Bluetones have reunited for a "slight return"

I'm not sure how many gigs they did in the US, but I got to see their one NYC gig in 1996. They were great.

(Looks like they only did NYC, SF and LA in 1996...I don't see any other US dates they ever did.)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on April 14, 2015, 07:41:11 pm
The Bluetones have reunited for a "slight return"

I'm not sure how many gigs they did in the US, but I got to see their one NYC gig in 1996. They were great.

(Looks like they only did NYC, SF and LA in 1996...I don't see any other US dates they ever did.)

I think like Cast, the Bluetones got one shot at cracking the US market as neither of them got any future releases here, despite having decent careers in Europe.  I'm a huge fan of Mark Morriss's two solo albums.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: bearman🐻 on April 21, 2015, 12:46:37 pm
A fascinating read about the Red House Painters.

http://4ad.com/sleevenotes/red-house-painters/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on May 02, 2015, 06:26:24 pm
Jaxx was a definite addition to the area's music scene.. Empire was crumbling so its not a huge loss.. I think Jaxx was a big loss...if Jaxx had been around Ace Frehley might have played there instead of the ridiculous Ramshead Annapolis...that says it all.


without Jaxx the area will simply get bypassed /is getting bypassed for many shows in that genre....they had the connections /longstanding relationships with the bands ....

Sounds like an opportunity. Just find the right strip mall off the radar of the gentrifiers. Think Anne Arundel County. Gov. Richie Road (MD 2) has endless miles of strips, especially through Glenn Burnie.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on May 02, 2015, 07:52:29 pm
Jaxx was a definite addition to the area's music scene.. Empire was crumbling so its not a huge loss.. I think Jaxx was a big loss...if Jaxx had been around Ace Frehley might have played there instead of the ridiculous Ramshead Annapolis...that says it all.


without Jaxx the area will simply get bypassed /is getting bypassed for many shows in that genre....they had the connections /longstanding relationships with the bands ....

Sounds like an opportunity. Just find the right strip mall off the radar of the gentrifiers. Think Anne Arundel County. Gov. Richie Road (MD 2) has endless miles of strips, especially through Glenn Burnie.

you're so right! opportunity knocks... hmmmmmmm
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on May 03, 2015, 02:21:06 pm
Hutch's House of Hairbands
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on May 03, 2015, 02:29:24 pm
Fugazi's Repeater Revisited (http://thequietus.com/articles/17780-fugazi-repeater-review)


This guy really loved that album. Nice well-written piece.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 03, 2015, 03:23:02 pm
Hutch's House of Hairbands

+100  (haircut 100 that is)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on May 05, 2015, 06:37:54 pm
Not really ignorant like that country band that called themselves The Fall, but still: The Swanns (http://www.le-swanns.com/)

I only know about them because of their indiscriminate twitter following.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on May 05, 2015, 06:53:51 pm
Ceremony (the shoegaze band from Virginia, established in 2005):
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ceremony/46796762230

versus

Ceremony (California punk band, established in 2005):
https://www.facebook.com/ceremony
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on May 14, 2015, 09:41:08 am
 Do Me Bad Things is back together...  ;D

https://www.facebook.com/DoMeBadThings/timeline
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on May 14, 2015, 10:13:20 am
Death (the band) just followed me on Twitter... It's a little disconcerting to get the notification that Death follows you ;)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: MindCage on May 14, 2015, 11:07:11 am
Death (the band) just followed me on Twitter... It's a little disconcerting to get the notification that Death follows you ;)

Last week Mary Lee the great white shark followed me on Twitter. Up for a swim?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 14, 2015, 11:30:10 am
Prince covered the Waterboys!
and I love crimson and clover (although Joan Jett has the definitive version)

Dance Rally 4 Peace (http://www.stereogum.com/1801363/stream-princes-dance-rally-4-peace-concert-at-paisley-park/mp3s/)

On May 2nd, about a week before his Rally 4 Peace concert in Baltimore, Prince held another performance that he called the Dance Rally 4 Peace. It took place near his studios at Paisley Park in Minneapolis, where he recorded the tribute single ?Baltimore.? He?s just uploaded audio of the entire 41-minute concert, which he performed alongside his backing band 3RDEYEGIRL. You can listen to it and check out a setlist below.



Setlist:
?Chaos And Disorder?
 ?Dreamer?
 ?Crimson & Clover? (Tommy James & the Shondells cover)
?Guitar?
 ?Plectrum Electrum?
 ?The Whole Of The Moon? (The Waterboys cover)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 14, 2015, 11:46:09 am
World?s 30 Highest Paid Musicians
The list in full, courtesy of Forbes:

1. Dr Dre ($620m)

2. Beyoncé ($115m)

3. The Eagles ($100m)

4. Bon Jovi ($82m)

5. Bruce Springsteen ($81m)

6. Justin Bieber ($80m)

7. One Direction ($75m)

8. Paul McCartney ($71m)

9. Calvin Harris ($66m)

10. Toby Keith ($65m)

11. Taylor Swift ($64m)

12. Jay Z ($60m)(tie)

12. Diddy ($60m)(tie)

12. Bruno Mars ($60m)(tie)

15. Justin Timberlake ($57m)

16. Pink ($52m)

17. Michael Bublé ($51m)

18. Rihanna ($48m)

19. Rolling Stones ($47m)

20. Roger Waters ($46m)

21. Elton John ($45m)

22. Kenny Chesney ($44m)

23. Katy Perry ($40m)

24. Jason Aldean ($37m)(tie)

24. Jennifer Lopez ($37m)(tie)

26. Miley Cyrus ($36m)(tie)

26. Celine Dion ($36m)(tie)

28. Muse ($34m)(tie)

28. Luke Bryan ($34m)(tie)

30. Lady Gaga ($33m)(tie)

30. Drake ($33m)(tie)



I'm sure this parallel's RatBastard playlist for the day


Kinda surprised Muse is in this list...MSP should be getting some royalties or something
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: bearman🐻 on May 14, 2015, 12:11:20 pm
I think musician is a generous description for some of those. The word "entertainer" or "producer" is probably more accurate for some of them.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on May 14, 2015, 12:20:13 pm
I think musician is a generous description for some of those. The word "entertainer" or "producer" is probably more accurate for some of them.
Yeah, comparing the money Dre makes off selling his headphone company to an active musician's touring and record sales is apples and oranges.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on May 14, 2015, 12:29:58 pm
Prince covered the Waterboys!

 ?The Whole Of The Moon? (The Waterboys cover)

It's mutual. Waterboys covered Purple Rain on their live album.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on May 14, 2015, 01:36:52 pm
I don't think Dre has released an album in like 15 years but I could be wrong..
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: MindCage on May 14, 2015, 03:46:39 pm
I don't think Dre has released an album in like 15 years but I could be wrong..

https://youtu.be/QFcv5Ma8u8k
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on May 14, 2015, 04:12:07 pm
16 this November.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on May 19, 2015, 01:51:49 pm
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/11111055_740470252724577_8956750086600381933_n.png?oh=ccbc80f15c1f3273ceb447913d67f40e&oe=55D13ACF)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 19, 2015, 02:07:36 pm
^that doesn't look like hutch at all
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on May 19, 2015, 02:09:05 pm
^that doesn't look like hutch at all
The emotionally and financially ignored children are just off picture to the left living in squalor.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on May 19, 2015, 02:10:10 pm
if any,body would like to do a hutch / sidehatch gif, in my thread, feel free to.  I didn,t think, I understood their complexities enough, to encapsulate them in the finer forms of gif.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 19, 2015, 02:31:33 pm
if any,body would like to do a hutch / sidehatch gif, in my thread, feel free to.  I didn,t think, I understood their complexities enough, to encapsulate them in the finer forms of gif.
please refrain, the internet can't handle the truth
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on May 19, 2015, 03:07:07 pm
^that doesn't look like hutch at all

I wish I had my records that organized (and that few)!

I have got rid of a about 1500 in the past month...

On the plus side I picked up Motorhead's Bomber, Sabbath's Sabotage, Circle Jerks Golden Shower and Gen X's last LP........except for the Circle Jerks which I'm missing the rest I've now completed the Sabbath, Motorhead (except maybe the live one), and Generation X

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on June 02, 2015, 04:43:15 pm
http://www.npr.org/sections/therecord/2015/06/02/411473508/how-well-can-you-hear-audio-quality
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Unsanity on June 03, 2015, 03:04:10 am
Got rid of 1500 in a month? How?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 03, 2015, 09:14:25 am
Got rid of 1500 in a month? How?
He's a communist...so he probably dropped them off at goodwill
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 11, 2015, 03:39:33 pm
Ok kinda old new about the Gaye Estate winning the Blurred lines lawsuit

but this article has actually a really interesting take on it (http://www.villagevoice.com/music/smug-turd-of-a-pop-song-blurred-lines-has-now-ruined-the-music-industry-6628535) and how it could be a disaster of legal proportions in the music industry

The "Blurred Lines" verdict ignores this, placing for the first time what boils down to "feel" under the heading of copyright infringement. By this logic, the Bob Marley estate can sue pretty much every reggae artist of the past 30 years. The Bo Diddley estate can sue George Michael for "Faith" and Bow Wow Wow for "I Want Candy." Phil Spector can sue the Raveonettes for their entire catalog.

"If this were to become a standard," musicologist Michael Harrington told USA Today, "it's going to be one of the greatest growth industries of all time, suing people who sound like someone else."

So hate on Robin Thicke all you want. Hate on Pharrell, too, although most people inexplicably seem to find his Arby's hat more offensive than his contributions to the worst pop song in recent memory. But understand this: However deserving of our contempt these two may be, they're not deserving of a $7.3 million lawsuit. Their work was homage, not wholesale theft. It may have been a terrible, tacky, derivative homage, but just as the First Amendment protects the most offensive language, copyright law should protect the lamest ripoffs if they fall short of the legal definition of infringement


we got a few lawyers on here...curious what they think
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on June 11, 2015, 04:04:14 pm
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/v/t1.0-9/11393024_10204785099049360_3994354824999023044_n.jpg?oh=abde95e7b8ccc9042c81a357672dccb6&oe=55EF52B2)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on June 11, 2015, 04:08:18 pm
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/v/t1.0-9/11393024_10204785099049360_3994354824999023044_n.jpg?oh=abde95e7b8ccc9042c81a357672dccb6&oe=55EF52B2)
I. . . what?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on June 11, 2015, 04:12:20 pm
It is... My masterpiece... I am loving the Facebook/iPhone photo options...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on June 11, 2015, 10:57:06 pm
One more masterpiece:
(https://scontent-atl1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/v/t1.0-9/11412177_10204786755690775_6686724222076469016_n.jpg?oh=d8ca903f99887c40090d8d61c3299d13&oe=55E8A559)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on June 11, 2015, 11:37:26 pm
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g16/beetsnotbeats/love_zps77xrweyt.jpg)

This is fun!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on June 11, 2015, 11:47:46 pm
I had a similar idea - but Love WIll Tear Us Apart - Robert Smith and picture of Morrissey.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on June 12, 2015, 10:10:58 am
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/11401532_1075836205764502_4615622857329296189_n.jpg?oh=c539cbbb287145bdee6a22676a1df479&oe=55F15BE7)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 12, 2015, 10:37:42 am
.

= removed unfunny post
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on June 12, 2015, 03:42:12 pm
Dave Grohl breaks leg in Sweden (http://www.dc101.com/articles/music-news-477342/report-dave-grohl-injured-after-falling-13675788/)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on June 12, 2015, 05:28:21 pm
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11100309_10153067577818737_845684021250353513_n.jpg?oh=d4cb74c3499dfbf19df3f111890514e7&oe=562CCB3A)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on June 12, 2015, 06:45:31 pm
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g16/beetsnotbeats/FRR1_zps0mv5vd6g.jpeg)(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g16/beetsnotbeats/FRR5_zpsqkkymqe7.jpg)

(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g16/beetsnotbeats/FRR7_zpsmznmbujb.jpg)(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g16/beetsnotbeats/FRR3_zpssltta8d7.jpeg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on June 12, 2015, 08:03:28 pm
Dave Grohl breaks leg in Sweden (http://www.dc101.com/articles/music-news-477342/report-dave-grohl-injured-after-falling-13675788/)


(https://igcdn-photos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/t51.2885-15/11385098_486211164880628_807516028_n.jpg)

Say whatever you will about Grohl, he's loyal as fuck to his fans. (http://www.nbcwashington.com/entertainment/entertainment-news/Foo-Fighters-Dave-Grohl-Falls-From-Stage-in-Sweden-307196311.html) I'm not really a fan but I can only respect this.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on June 13, 2015, 03:44:07 pm
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/11230969_660585357410001_1513661899992129662_n.jpg?oh=2f911082dcaf1b2b12e80d106bb10e5b&oe=55F41F2F)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on June 13, 2015, 07:44:24 pm
That thing where a couple of your friends end up on the NY Times podcast (http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/06/12/popcast-tenement-punk-and-the-diy-scene/?_r=0#more-357429)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on June 15, 2015, 05:50:20 pm
I cant believe that the Smash Mouth bread incident has not been brought up yet.

http://defamer.gawker.com/smash-mouth-singer-threatens-to-beat-the-fuck-out-of-1711379518

edit:
I made it into something inspirational...
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/1538894_10204810487644059_2020226220169505839_n.jpg?oh=d6879635c4df75da16183ecf47d1e88b&oe=56282504)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 15, 2015, 06:15:02 pm
apparently he's gluten sensitive...so the people in the crowd were really being insensitive
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on June 15, 2015, 08:30:53 pm
Wonder if he woulda been happier if they'd thrown mortadella and pepperoncini too.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on June 15, 2015, 09:45:11 pm
http://pitchfork.com/news/59940-pitchforktv-presents-pitchfork-classic-documentary-on-slowdives-souvlaki/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on June 16, 2015, 09:34:02 am
http://pitchfork.com/news/59940-pitchforktv-presents-pitchfork-classic-documentary-on-slowdives-souvlaki/

pitchfork eh...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 16, 2015, 04:07:27 pm
Rachel Dolezal Now Claiming to Be Founding Member of Bad Brains (http://thehardtimes.net/2015/06/16/rachel-dolezal-now-claiming-to-be-founding-member-of-bad-brains/)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 17, 2015, 01:14:45 pm
So I know Jules is going to be upset
Frank Turner said 'That's a fucking rubbish idea'  (http://www.nme.com/news/frank-turner/86264)when the label tried to get Taylor Swift to appear on his newest release
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on June 17, 2015, 02:48:54 pm
So I know Jules is going to be upset
Frank Turner said 'That's a fucking rubbish idea'  (http://www.nme.com/news/frank-turner/86264)when the label tried to get Taylor Swift to appear on his newest release
I agree with him. He sucks and therefore it is a rubbish idea for artists who don't put people to sleep with their music to waste their time on him.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on June 26, 2015, 01:23:12 am
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g16/beetsnotbeats/The%20Rush%20Brothers_zpskhfzaeli.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 01, 2015, 12:16:58 pm
(https://flavorwire.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/flavorwire-rock-map.png)
could probably add 100 more to this

wonder what the Rap map of Manhattan looks like
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on July 02, 2015, 06:23:32 am
There is some serious fluffing going on regarding Apple's new streaming radio station, as if all the hobbyist streaming radio stations never existed...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: walk,on,by on July 02, 2015, 08:47:46 am
most, are saying that very soon, like television channels, major artists will sign, exclusive deals with various streaming sights, that will allow only one to carry all their music.

prince, seems to be the first to try such a model.

http://www.theverge.com/2015/7/2/8882527/prince-streaming-music-spotify-tidal
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on July 02, 2015, 09:41:29 am
(http://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/ghostbusters.gif)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on July 02, 2015, 11:20:29 am
^ wrong thread?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: walk,on,by on July 02, 2015, 11:27:56 am
I am curious, if the person, known as kill,sally . . . can go one whole day, without posting a single gif?  but then again, there are others who think, if the person, known as walk,on,by can go one whole, day without a single comma?  its questions such, as these, that I ask.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on July 02, 2015, 11:28:08 am
^ wrong thread?
It was a joke about not crossing streams.  
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on July 02, 2015, 11:30:41 am
I am curious, if the person, known as kill,sally . . . can go one whole day, without posting a single gif? 
It depends on my mood, and if I find something I find appropriate.
(http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/internet_surfing.gif)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: walk,on,by on July 02, 2015, 11:31:24 am
^ wrong thread?
It was a joke about not crossing streams.  

and a damn, good joke, it was.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on July 02, 2015, 11:33:14 am
Thanks!  I was hoping that it would be enjoyed by all!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: ggw on July 02, 2015, 02:51:15 pm
It was a joke about not crossing streams.  

Jokes are always much funnier after you explain them.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on July 02, 2015, 03:16:36 pm
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Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on July 02, 2015, 03:23:13 pm
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Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: slappy on July 09, 2015, 11:19:22 am
This is an excellent piece on so many levels.
How history gets revealed, rape and it's consequences, and how one reacts to it.
Joan Jett needs to get out from her lawyers and get real.
Shit, this is the LA story that should've been the plot for this seasons 'True Detective'

http://highline.huffingtonpost.com/articles/en/the-lost-girls/ (http://highline.huffingtonpost.com/articles/en/the-lost-girls/)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: walk,on,by on July 09, 2015, 02:40:47 pm
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/p480x480/11698644_10155722987210702_305518511061491543_n.jpg?oh=c998162e782acd82d2e53d3d5e494864&oe=562158E3)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 10, 2015, 01:31:29 pm
Closer to home is the heartfelt tribute to Josh Burdette, the legendary security man at Washington DC?s cult 9:30 Club venue and close friend of Turner?s, who took his own life in 2013. Turner pulls up the leg of his trousers to reveal a tattoo of a dragon, which he had inked Burdette?s memory. ?He was covered in dragon tattoos,? recalls Turner. ?All of his dragons had closed eyes and he said that when he died he wanted their eyes opened. So his tattooist went and did it, which is fucking intense.?
http://www.nme.com/features/frank-turner-interview-the-tireless-punk-troubadour-on-starting-again-with-positive-songs-for-negati (http://www.nme.com/features/frank-turner-interview-the-tireless-punk-troubadour-on-starting-again-with-positive-songs-for-negati)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 10, 2015, 01:57:25 pm
Wait, am I reading that correct? His tattoos were altered postmortem?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 10, 2015, 02:35:06 pm
Wait, am I reading that correct? His tattoos were altered postmortem?
That's my understanding
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 10, 2015, 02:50:28 pm
Wait, am I reading that correct? His tattoos were altered postmortem?
That's my understanding
I've been down a weird google rabbit hole about desecration of a corpse and necrophilia laws for the last hour or so from state to state and I do not think I will be eating for several days.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on July 10, 2015, 02:59:48 pm
Wrong thread.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 10, 2015, 03:05:24 pm
Wrong thread.
Would the legal minutia been better suited for the Smackie thread?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on July 10, 2015, 03:16:06 pm
Wait, am I reading that correct? His tattoos were altered postmortem?
That's my understanding
I've been down a weird google rabbit hole about desecration of a corpse and necrophilia laws for the last hour or so from state to state and I do not think I will be eating for several days.

Where can you view that type of material and not get fired from your job?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 10, 2015, 03:28:34 pm
Where can you view that type of material and not get fired from your job?

http://law.justia.com doesn't exactly have photos of the various crimes accompanying the text of various federal and state codes.

My sort of justification for tagging/not tagging something NSFW is, "hey, if someone walks behind you and glances at your computer screen while you're at work, is it immediately going to draw their attention because its obvious at a glance this has no valid business purpose?" A page of dry text (regardless of text's content): probably not. Nude/nearly-nude .gifs of people? Probably. Footage of open wounds or gore? Probably.

Obviously everyone's workplace and computer-use policies are going to be different and people need to know where they work and what's fine and what isn't but I don't understand how my request things virtually no employer is going to be cool with tagged NSFW so people can make an informed decision is so ridiculous.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on July 10, 2015, 03:47:16 pm
It must suck to work in such an environment...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 10, 2015, 03:54:31 pm
It must suck to work in such an environment...
Yeah, I've really had to train myself to make it 8 hours without enjoying gratuitous nudity and autopsy photos.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on July 10, 2015, 04:11:41 pm
 I'm not saying that you need to look at them while you're at work. I'm saying  it sucks to work at a place where you would get fired for looking at a picture of a woman in a bikini, or a picture of someone's open wound.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 10, 2015, 04:18:28 pm
I'm not saying that you need to look at them while you're at work. I'm saying  it sucks to work at a place where you would get fired for looking at a picture of a woman in a bikini, or a picture of someone's open wound.
I cannot imagine actually getting fired for looking at that stuff, personally. Could I see a female employee complaining to HR about it being a hostile workplace because someone is watching Kate Upton do the Cat Daddy dance in a bikini and a huge amount of my time gets wasted over it? Sure.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on July 10, 2015, 04:20:15 pm
Snitches get stitches.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 10, 2015, 04:26:49 pm
^creating a hostile forum environment  ;D
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 10, 2015, 04:41:42 pm
^creating a hostile forum environment  ;D
I feel unsafe. Ergo, Reddit is moments away from shutting the board down.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 10, 2015, 04:56:55 pm
The DC Public Library is creating a DC Punk Archive in the Washingtoniana collection. They want donations of photos, fliers, records/tapes/CDs, zines, posters or video/film.
http://dclibrary.org/punk
 (http://dclibrary.org/punk)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: vansmack on July 10, 2015, 06:45:19 pm
Closer to home is the heartfelt tribute to Josh Burdette, the legendary security man at Washington DC?s cult 9:30 Club venue and close friend of Turner?s, who took his own life in 2013. Turner pulls up the leg of his trousers to reveal a tattoo of a dragon, which he had inked Burdette?s memory. ?He was covered in dragon tattoos,? recalls Turner. ?All of his dragons had closed eyes and he said that when he died he wanted their eyes opened. So his tattooist went and did it, which is fucking intense.?

Fucking intense is right!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on July 10, 2015, 07:15:00 pm
The DC Public Library has created a DC Punk Archive in the Washingtoniana collection. They want donations of photos, fliers, records/tapes/CDs, zines, posters or video/film.
http://dclibrary.org/punk
 (http://dclibrary.org/punk)

FTFY

UM College Park has one, too (http://hdl.handle.net/1903.1/26175). Curated by people who were there.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 16, 2015, 04:12:30 pm
Gorillaz Will Be Working on a New Album  (http://www.complex.com/music/2015/07/gorillaz-new-album-announced-damon-albarn)
(https://scontent-lga1-1.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xpf1/t51.2885-15/10946383_579933898808712_981229897_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: slappy on July 20, 2015, 11:05:07 am
1970's Donald Trump looks like Josh Homme if he was a used car salesman.
(https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://img.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp-content/uploads/sites/21/2015/07/Mccain-Trump.jpg&w=400)

(http://musicconnection.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/000014e4.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: walk,on,by on July 21, 2015, 12:25:46 pm
http://www.jambase.com/Articles/125841/Man-Dies-In-Police-Custody-After-Leaving-Widespread-Panic-Concert

drugs, scare me now, in my older age.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on July 21, 2015, 01:09:44 pm
Best label of the last 30 years. (http://www.thevinylfactory.com/vinyl-factory-releases/flying-nun-the-untold-story-of-a-trailblazing-indie-label/)

Yes, better than that one DC sacred cow.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 21, 2015, 01:12:20 pm
Yes, better than that one DC sacred cow.
^^ Azaghal1981 taking potshots at Eighteenth Street Lounge!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on July 21, 2015, 01:31:38 pm
^^POTW

Ask and ye shall receive. Kinda. (https://twitter.com/ahmadmzaghal/status/622052046867464192)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on July 23, 2015, 02:43:04 pm
http://whyideletedyourpromoemail.tumblr.com/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on July 23, 2015, 06:40:04 pm
How have we not talked about Nicki Minaj's justified call-out of the music industry/MTV for snubbing her in the VMA nominations and Taylor Swift's wrong-headed, tone-deaf response?

http://bit.ly/1gObO58
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 23, 2015, 08:30:59 pm
How have we not talked about Nicki Minaj's justified call-out of the music industry/MTV for snubbing her in the VMA nominations and Taylor Swift's wrong-headed, tone-deaf response?

http://bit.ly/1gObO58

The majority of the nominees were minorities. She has no point. Unless her point was she was snubbed because she's larger than Taylor Swift in which case she could always just lose some goddamn weight.

Anyone who calls "outrage" of a "VMA nomination snub" "justified" needs to get a grip.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on July 23, 2015, 09:20:38 pm
Ed Sheeran getting the nod over her in the video of the year category is quite a headscratcher.


Does anyone here actually know what that Ed Sheeran song sounds like? "Anaconda" on the other hand was inescapable and... pretty damn awesome.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on July 23, 2015, 09:26:25 pm
 ::)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 23, 2015, 09:28:43 pm
Her tweets werenot about Ed Sheeran. She referenced "the skinny girls" and discussed a choreography nomination Ed Sheeren did not get. It was a direct reference to either Taylor or Queen B, and she wasn't calling out Bey, obviously. Any other interpretation is intellectually dishonest and an attempt to shoehorn someone else's beef into Minaj's comments.

And again, this is the VMAs we are talking about. The ESPYs think this is utterly meaningless.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on July 23, 2015, 09:29:49 pm
Yeah, this writer is probably right. (http://wapo.st/1OBaFsS)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 23, 2015, 09:29:57 pm
And also the (EDIT: first) article you linked is ridiculous. White women have had it worse than black men for the last 150 years in America. Any idea that racism trumps sexism is just ridiculous.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on July 23, 2015, 09:31:17 pm
Ed Sheeran getting the nod over her in the video of the year category is quite a headscratcher.


Does anyone here actually know what that Ed Sheeran song sounds like? "Anaconda" on the other hand was inescapable and... pretty damn awesome.


A blind man voicing a definitive opinion about music VIDEOS is quite a headscratcher.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on July 23, 2015, 10:00:36 pm
Says the guy who reviews shows without attending them.
Ed Sheeran getting the nod over her in the video of the year category is quite a headscratcher.


Does anyone here actually know what that Ed Sheeran song sounds like? "Anaconda" on the other hand was inescapable and... pretty damn awesome.


A blind man voicing a definitive opinion about music VIDEOS is quite a headscratcher.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 23, 2015, 10:03:18 pm
^^ Epic. Every time.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: RatBastard on July 23, 2015, 11:25:02 pm
How have we not talked about Nicki Minaj's justified call-out of the music industry/MTV for snubbing her in the VMA nominations and Taylor Swift's wrong-headed, tone-deaf response?

http://bit.ly/1gObO58

The majority of the nominees were minorities. She has no point. Unless her point was she was snubbed because she's larger than Taylor Swift in which case she could always just lose some goddamn weight.

Anyone who calls "outrage" of a "VMA nomination snub" "justified" needs to get a grip.

We are all minorities.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on July 24, 2015, 12:33:39 am
We are all minorities.

not in significant ways ("i'm a former skateboarder, less than 0.1% of the population!!!").

you're a white male, AKA the majority.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on July 24, 2015, 12:35:43 am
Says the guy who reviews shows without attending them.
A blind man voicing a definitive opinion about music VIDEOS is quite a headscratcher.

And again, this is the VMAs we are talking about. The ESPYs think this is utterly meaningless.

there is some quality writing going down here, people.  pay attention!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on July 24, 2015, 01:03:19 am
On a sort of related topic, I just came across this. (http://www.collapseboard.com/music-blogs-3/segregation-under-a-groove-pop-musics-unspoken-colour-lines/)

As tempting as it is to respond to Julian's comment that white women have had it worse than black men here since the end of slavery, a discussion on Jim Crow, racial profiling and mass incarceration would swing this thread way off the intended topic.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 24, 2015, 09:06:14 am
As tempting as it is to respond to Julian's comment that white women have had it worse than black men here since the end of slavery, a discussion on Jim Crow, racial profiling and mass incarceration would swing this thread way off the intended topic.
I concur.

A discussion of systematic unprosecuted sexual assault, wage disparity, and a de facto ban on hiring women for certain jobs would derail the Musicological banter. A comparison of the relative dates at which white women and black men were allowed to own property; vote; first served in Congress, the Senate, state governorships, the Supreme Court, and the Presidency; and were allowed to serve in liturgical roles in the majority of mainstream religions would be an annoying and longwinded sideshow on the board. The fact that women could be legally sodomized by their husbands in the majority of states IN OUR LIFETIMES would be a downright bummer to think about.

This would all take away from the true victim which is a multimillionaire rapper who didn't get a choreography nomination in America's 17th most prestigious arts award.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 24, 2015, 09:12:03 am
Ed Sheeran getting the nod over her in the video of the year category is quite a headscratcher.


Does anyone here actually know what that Ed Sheeran song sounds like?
BTW, you do understand this was basically Taylor Swift's response ("maybe one of the guys took your slot") that you were earlier calling "wrong-headed" and "tone-deaf," correct?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on July 24, 2015, 09:30:23 am
It was wrong-headed (and a little self-centered) for Swift to assume she was personally attacked. Minaj's tweets still read as more of a generalization about  the industry and music press as a whole (who still have their fair share of unresolved race/sex/body type issues) to me.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 24, 2015, 09:40:14 am
It was wrong-headed (and a little self-centered) for Swift to assume she was personally attacked. Minaj's tweets still read as more of a generalization about  the industry and music press as a whole (who still have their fair share of unresolved race/sex/body type issues) to me.
I think you're giving Minaj way too much credit. That's what annoys me about this: virtually every article about it spends no time actually discussing what Minaj actually said and instead is a missive about the author's personal agenda and presuming that is what Minaj was trying to say. But if you look at her ACTUAL words she said she was mad that she didn't get a nomination this year but "other girls... skinny girls" did. So it wasn't about Ed Sheeran, Bruno Mars, or Kendrick Mars. She was definitely DIRECTLY talking about either Taylor Swift or Beyonce.

And of all of the varied "hot takes" written about this idiocy, the only one I haven't seen is the one that thinks she was calling out Beyonce.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on July 24, 2015, 10:03:23 am
If she were a true feminist rather than simply an attention whore, she'd be calling attention to how horribly women are treated in Saudi Arabia rather than complaining about only skinny girls getting video award nominations.  ;)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 24, 2015, 10:05:14 am
If she were a true feminist rather than simply an attention whore, she'd be calling attention to how horribly women are treated in Saudi Arabia rather than complaining about only skinny girls getting video award nominations.  ;)
I know you're mostly trolling but I agree. This is not a racism/sexism issue. It's about fat acceptance and Minaj should be shouted down from the rooftop over that. Want a nomination? Stop shoveling cake in your face and become a skinny girl.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on July 24, 2015, 10:14:12 am
If she were a true feminist rather than simply an attention whore, she'd be calling attention to how horribly women are treated in Saudi Arabia rather than complaining about only skinny girls getting video award nominations.  ;)
I know you're mostly trolling but I agree. This is not a racism/sexism issue. It's about fat acceptance and Minaj should be shouted down from the rooftop over that. Want a nomination? Stop shoveling cake in your face and become a skinny girl.

Admittedly I don't follow pop music. But isn't it about whose music video is better? What does race, gender, or body type have to do with anything?

If video awards were based on physical attractriveness alone, I'd tak Nicki over Taylor in a hearbeat.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 24, 2015, 10:18:10 am
But isn't it about whose music video is better?
Yes, but Minaj's point isn't that her video was better. She explicitly didn't say that. She just complained that "skinny girls" get nominations. She is the person bringing weight into it, not anyone else. She is the person -- not me, not MTV -- who is under the belief that she didn't get a nomination because "durrr, thin privilege." Fat privilege is being able to talk about other people's weight with impunity but if anyone talks about yours, they'd be crucified.

Here's another great example of thin shaming:
(http://i.imgur.com/ctV7sP4.png)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on July 24, 2015, 10:24:38 am
let me know if anyone needs that script I used to use for atomic to block this thread.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on July 24, 2015, 10:31:34 am
Yeah, I suppose it'd be nice if she took our government to task for propping up that monstrous regime for as long as it has.
If she were a true feminist rather than simply an attention whore, she'd be calling attention to how horribly women are treated in Saudi Arabia rather than complaining about only skinny girls getting video award nominations.  ;)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 24, 2015, 10:32:56 am
Hey, what's everyone's thoughts on Israel?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on July 24, 2015, 10:36:16 am
Hey, what's everyone's thoughts on Israel?

Would it be sexist for me to post this link?

http://thechive.com/2014/12/16/happy-hanukkah-gorgeous-israeli-women-19-photos/

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 24, 2015, 10:37:19 am
Would it be sexist for me to post this link?

http://thechive.com/2014/12/16/happy-hanukkah-gorgeous-israeli-women-19-photos/
Nikki Minaj is triggered that only skinny girls get posted in that link.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on July 24, 2015, 10:38:22 am
Yeah, I suppose it'd be nice if she took our government to task for propping up that monstrous regime for as long as it has.
If she were a true feminist rather than simply an attention whore, she'd be calling attention to how horribly women are treated in Saudi Arabia rather than complaining about only skinny girls getting video award nominations.  ;)

That would indeed be great but somehow i don't see it happening.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on July 24, 2015, 10:39:52 am
Keeping it musicological, http://thequietus.com/articles/18163-cultural-boycott-israel
Hey, what's everyone's thoughts on Israel?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on July 24, 2015, 12:04:02 pm
http://www.haaretz.com/life/music-theater/.premium-1.667617 ?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on July 24, 2015, 12:22:44 pm
Banter you say?

LOC Recommended Formats Statement (http://www.loc.gov/preservation/resources/rfs/)

CD > vinyl

III. Audio Works (http://www.loc.gov/preservation/resources/rfs/audio.html)

i. Audio - On Tangible Medium (digital and analog)

Preferred:

    A. Sound recordings, in order of preference
        1. Final production/release version of content rather than pre-production version
        2. Published Compact Disc (CD audio) rather than Recordable Compact Disc (CD-R, audio format)
        3. With all jackets, sleeves, enclosures, and inserts rather than without
        4. Stereophonic if originally recorded/released as stereophonic
        5. Monaural if originally recorded/release as monaural
        6. Direct Stream Digital (DSD) or other multi-channel (e.g. Surround Sound) version in addition to stereophonic version if release in both
        7. Vinyl disc (LP) in addition to Compact Disc (CD) if released in both

Acceptable:

    A. Sound recordings, in order of preference
        1. Recordable Compact Disc (CD-R) rather than vinyl disc
        2. Vinyl disc rather than audio cassette
        3. Audio cassette if only released as such

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on July 27, 2015, 09:00:16 am
As tempting as it is to respond to Julian's comment that white women have had it worse than black men here since the end of slavery, a discussion on Jim Crow, racial profiling and mass incarceration would swing this thread way off the intended topic.
I concur.

A discussion of systematic unprosecuted sexual assault, wage disparity, and a de facto ban on hiring women for certain jobs would derail the Musicological banter. A comparison of the relative dates at which white women and black men were allowed to own property; vote; first served in Congress, the Senate, state governorships, the Supreme Court, and the Presidency; and were allowed to serve in liturgical roles in the majority of mainstream religions would be an annoying and longwinded sideshow on the board. The fact that women could be legally sodomized by their husbands in the majority of states IN OUR LIFETIMES would be a downright bummer to think about.

This would all take away from the true victim which is a multimillionaire rapper who didn't get a choreography nomination in America's 17th most prestigious arts award.

I thought it was funny, reading this argument between two guys who are neither black nor female. I guess at least that makes you both (perhaps) impartial. So I brought the question up at the dinner table Friday night. My wife appreciated that I had something to talk about other than beer, baseball, music, and film ((anti-)religion is usually her topic). So thanks to you two for that.

I figured being married to me, she'd for sure project and claim that women have had it harder than blacks in the last 150 years. But alas, her vote was that blacks have had it harder than women. So there you go.

She also said that both the TS and NM videos are both weak...and she's usually pretty friendly to cheez pop like that. Oh well.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 27, 2015, 09:27:13 am
So thanks to you two for that.
I just try and make a difference.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: walk,on,by on July 27, 2015, 03:16:55 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy1SbWO7Avs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mki6wwPoSxk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDB3VdU4Kqw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIgi0qGsprg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPEluMWQh6g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgQoTlhn8nA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDdv_6YIrd0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBBCOAA0rSM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5oVWc3RelU


http://www.rollingstone.com/music/pictures/see-freaky-fiery-photos-from-the-2015-gathering-of-the-juggalos-20150727
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on July 28, 2015, 09:15:13 am
If Taylor Swift ever somehow made a great album, it would sound something like the new Ashley Monroe album.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 28, 2015, 09:19:46 am
If Taylor Swift ever somehow made a great album, it would sound something like the new Ashley Monroe album.
I heard her website just got hacked and a lot of guys who were trying to cheat on their wives with her are getting prettay, prettay, prettay nervous.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: walk,on,by on July 29, 2015, 03:47:41 pm
tyler, the creator . . . accuses, wrongly, some woman from Australia of being behind the fact he can,not play in that country, on twitter.  then tyler,s fans, on twitter, are threatening to kill said woman and rape her.  now, tyler, again on twitter, is saying he has nothing to do with such threats and they are not coming from him. 

ahh, the internet, and twitter.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: walk,on,by on July 29, 2015, 03:49:45 pm
when I grow up, I want to be like chief keef . . . where I can have so many arrest warrants out on me, that I can,not even play at my own concert, and have to show up as a hologram, only to have said concert shut down by the police, after one song, because I am such a menace to society.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on July 30, 2015, 10:17:45 am
tyler, the creator . . . accuses, wrongly, some woman from Australia of being behind the fact he can,not play in that country, on twitter.  then tyler,s fans, on twitter, are threatening to kill said woman and rape her.  now, tyler, again on twitter, is saying he has nothing to do with such threats and they are not coming from him. 

ahh, the internet, and twitter.
And Australia says that he's actually not banned from there.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on August 02, 2015, 02:16:28 pm
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11825086_10153167479482981_139775287335058330_n.jpg?oh=ba49d99020a4d27838aae9bd41a74333&oe=564268AF)

1969
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on August 02, 2015, 10:03:46 pm
^ wow
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 03, 2015, 09:16:58 am
^^ wow is right

Credence Clearwater...but no revival
Pre starship (thank god)
Santana Blues Band?

Byrds and Lil' rich looks like minor acts
who the heck is Lighthouse?
Amazing that 20ish of the 28 bands all are still somewhat revlent
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 03, 2015, 09:23:55 am
who the heck is Lighthouse?
Uh, the three-peat Juno Award winners for Best Canadian Group of the Year, you anti-True North scum! Sweetcell would knock your teeth out if he heard you talking like this.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 03, 2015, 09:29:01 am
Credence Clearwater...but no revival
I never realized they were called just Creedence Clearwater at one point. And wikipedia makes no mention of this either. Hmm.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 03, 2015, 10:00:17 am
who the heck is Lighthouse?
Uh, the three-peat Juno Award winners for Best Canadian Group of the Year, you anti-True North scum! Sweetcell would knock your teeth out if he heard you talking like this.
Lighthouse was the first group in Canada to be sponsored by a large corporation on a national level
just listened to "pretty lady" and "Sunny Days"
 glad I never heard of these guys
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: slappy on August 03, 2015, 01:20:12 pm
'The American Dream' put out a Todd Rundgren produced album.
http://therisingstorm.net/the-american-dream-the-american-dream/

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on August 03, 2015, 01:55:09 pm
Credence Clearwater...but no revival
I never realized they were called just Creedence Clearwater at one point. And wikipedia makes no mention of this either. Hmm.

maybe it was just a typo, laziness, or space constraints on the poster?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on August 03, 2015, 02:46:28 pm
Credence Clearwater...but no revival
I never realized they were called just Creedence Clearwater at one point. And wikipedia makes no mention of this either. Hmm.

maybe it was just a typo, laziness, or space constraints on the poster?

(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t31.0-8/q85/p640x640/11050304_10153156101593205_516278646265818454_o.jpg)

Pre-MC5. Check out the sign. I read somewhere that some people in 20thC Michigan would call hamburgers "hamburgs".
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on August 05, 2015, 01:01:17 pm
Jack White is putting out a Wolf Eyes record and the universe makes no sense.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on August 05, 2015, 01:05:25 pm
And Nicolas Cage likes Stockhausen.  (http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2015/08/04/nicolas-cage-interview/)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 05, 2015, 01:06:23 pm
I read somewhere that some people in 20thC Michigan would call hamburgers "hamburgs".
Depends what part of Michigan you were from. Where I am from, we refer to them as steamed hams.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on August 05, 2015, 01:14:00 pm
Jack White is putting out a Wolf Eyes record and the universe makes no sense.

I posted this in the Random thread and moved it to this one:

Jack White's record label is putting out the new Wolf Eyes.

THE END IS NEAR. 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: walk,on,by on August 05, 2015, 02:24:04 pm
"jack white is not allowed to do anything, or make money, or be anybody, or be anything . . . because I don,t like him as an artist."

what, the fuck, ever.  yawn.  next.  good for him.  jackwhitematters.  the end.  stop trusting your own beliefs as truth for anybody else, but you. 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on August 05, 2015, 02:26:12 pm
"jack white is not allowed to do anything, or make money, or be anybody, or be anything . . . because I don,t like him as an artist."

what, the fuck, ever.  yawn.  next.  good for him.  jackwhitematters.  the end.  stop trusting your own beliefs as truth for anybody else, but you. 

Him and the band he's producing both suck!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on August 05, 2015, 02:37:30 pm
His music isn't my thing but I have nothing against him personally. Still bizarre that he'd sign a noise band, though.
There's the Detroit connection I guess.
Edit: Here's who we're talking about. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsmrU9kquiw)


"jack white is not allowed to do anything, or make money, or be anybody, or be anything . . . because I don,t like him as an artist."

what, the fuck, ever.  yawn.  next.  good for him.  jackwhitematters.  the end.  stop trusting your own beliefs as truth for anybody else, but you. 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on August 05, 2015, 03:02:48 pm
First single from the Third Man release (http://pitchfork.com/news/59668-wolf-eyes-to-release-i-am-a-problem-mind-in-pieces-via-third-man-share-enemy-ladder/)

It's a little more conventional-sounding but not by much.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on August 05, 2015, 03:03:21 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1FW2uUHcPg
^ representative of their current lineup and sound
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on August 05, 2015, 09:34:57 pm
stop trusting your own beliefs as truth for anybody else, but you. 

gawdammit.  i hate it when walkies makes me agree with him.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on August 05, 2015, 10:17:00 pm
Fine. I guess stranger things can happen. (http://www.richmond.com/news/virginia/article_1801769d-2ccc-54ab-b337-5ccb272dff20.html)

Maybe this belongs in Just Announced.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on August 06, 2015, 09:12:04 am
http://www.stereogum.com/1822051/ryan-adams-is-covering-taylor-swifts-1989-in-the-style-of-the-smiths/video/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on August 06, 2015, 09:44:36 am
https://twitter.com/Marcissist/status/629285083581693952
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 06, 2015, 11:07:52 am
https://twitter.com/Marcissist/status/629285083581693952
timely...87 930 club show with FNM opening for RHCP two nights
bet that was fun
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 07, 2015, 04:21:11 pm
what is  ‪#‎Basement930
Is that the backbar??
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on August 09, 2015, 10:36:41 am
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0904/4966/products/MTBS_MOCK_OPEN_1024x1024.jpg?v=1438700966) (http://weardinner.com/products/mtbs-shirt)

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on August 09, 2015, 11:10:44 am
 There is a band called Basement playing there on Thursday.
what is  ‪#‎Basement930
Is that the backbar??

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 09, 2015, 08:47:56 pm
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0904/4966/products/MTBS_MOCK_OPEN_1024x1024.jpg?v=1438700966) (http://weardinner.com/products/mtbs-shirt)


awesome!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 13, 2015, 09:37:18 am
The mighty King Khan is starting his own label appropriately titled Khannibalism.  In cooperation with Ernest Jenning Record Co., the new label has big plans to unearth unique records, including an album featuring spoken words by William S. Burroughs and the avant-garde guitarist Bill Frisell. But c'mon. What else would you expect from a revivalist like King Khan? To celebrate and announce the label, King Khan has released a brand new track featuring Ian Svenonious from Chain & the Gang playing exclusively on Noisey. "Hurtin' Class" is a killer cut of funk-inflected punk (feautured in the film The Invaders scored by Khan) that will surely fit well on an experimental label like Khannibalism

and does song with Ian Svenonius
Hurtin class (https://soundcloud.com/pete-ejrc/hurtin-class-feat-ian)

what is not to love about this guy
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: walk,on,by on August 13, 2015, 10:10:26 pm
I must listen, when that burroughs album, comes out.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: walk,on,by on August 22, 2015, 11:59:45 pm
Kurt vile, is the folk ghost of Jay reatard, and I love him.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on August 28, 2015, 10:49:03 am
RETWEET

@robfee: Pretty sure not every member of The Roots is necessary. I swear I saw one guy in the back just peeling an orange.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 01, 2015, 09:54:22 am
(http://thekey.xpn.org/aatk/files/2015/08/Untitled-1.jpg)
The Trocodero October 1994 calendar. Holy--!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 01, 2015, 11:33:12 am
wow! except for Dead eyed dick...would have gladly attended everyone of those shows
is that the troc in Philly?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 01, 2015, 11:40:31 am
wow! except for Dead eyed dick...would have gladly attended everyone of those shows
is that the troc in Philly?
I would have went to see Dead Eye Dick. Pigface would have been my "miss" with Dee-Lite as a solid "meh."

Yes, from Philly.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 01, 2015, 12:37:13 pm
94...yeah de lite was past their prime

pigface was the supperband with Reznor (pre NIN), Martin Atkins , Paul Barker, Albini, David Yow
Not sure who actually toured with them and how it was
also lot of the guys from The Mind is a Terrible Thing to Taste
which I loved

but the album, with all that firepower kinda sucked

only memorable thing was this credit
Percussion [Bodrahn, Doritos Bag] ? Atkins*


Edit...found this tid bit on wiki ----jules you could have joined in apparently

Live shows[edit]

Pigface concerts are characterized by high-energy performances. It is not unusual to see upwards of ten musicians on stage at any given time during a show. In addition, members of the audience have occasionally been invited on stage during the encore.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on September 01, 2015, 04:17:23 pm
http://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2015/09/10-metal-albums-for-people-who-dont-like-metal.html
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on September 01, 2015, 06:43:45 pm
I liked all of Dee-lite's stuff....bet it was a fun show.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: walk,on,by on September 01, 2015, 06:58:25 pm
I saw dee lite at some rave way back when in the 90s, off of 495 somewhere, in a big field.  there was a stage and everything.  dc101 even talked about it.  lady miss kier was doing coke in front of everyone . . . allegedly.  I say that, because I did not see her do it, but was told by everyone, that she did.  the cops came and broke it up finally and some guy was crying because they took all his pot.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 01, 2015, 08:49:22 pm
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash2/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/547540_497768460288185_1344364985_n.jpg?oh=f701cc1b6924d984a1d7b25998d8c0a8&oe=5660F68F)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on September 02, 2015, 06:54:43 pm
Juggalos And Maggots why cant we be friends?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssTA32P3ufM&feature=youtu.be

NSFW Language

If Maggots and Juggalos can be friends, then there is hope for our country.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 02, 2015, 10:43:07 pm
horrorcore...meh
is sad more than scary
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: walk,on,by on September 03, 2015, 12:14:26 am
there are, 125 thousand people who have watched that video, including me.  I,ve tried to come up with something to express how I feel after watching it, and I can,t.  I can,t move.   

 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on September 03, 2015, 09:44:53 am
You are welcome. 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 03, 2015, 02:10:59 pm
oh keef  (http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/music/keith-richards-plenty-plenty-article-1.2346653)

Rap ? so many words, so little said,? laughs Richards, 71.

?What rap did that was impressive was to show there are so many tone-deaf people out there,? he says. ?All they need is a drum beat and somebody yelling over it and they?re happy. There?s an enormous market for people who can?t tell one note from another.?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on September 03, 2015, 03:04:04 pm
well he's right... name the last rap album you loved? Tribe?


all he forgot to add is that they are stealing the riff from some song everyone already loves.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on September 03, 2015, 03:57:21 pm
well he's right... name the last rap album you loved? Tribe?


all he forgot to add is that they are stealing the riff from some song everyone already loves.

I agree with keef as well. Rap is pretty, pretty meh...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on September 03, 2015, 04:00:58 pm
complaining that rappers are tone-deaf is missing the point about rap.  it's like saying that atonal jazz isn't melodic... no shit.  not supposed to be, nor trying to be.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 03, 2015, 04:01:12 pm
Ardamus is going to be so mad the next time he shows up to de facto panhandle on here in hopes we'll see his shitty, shitty concert.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on September 03, 2015, 04:10:25 pm
complaining that rappers are tone-deaf is missing the point about rap.  it's like saying that atonal jazz isn't melodic... no shit.  not supposed to be, nor trying to be.

as Miles Davis wrote in his autobiography the minute Coltrane left his band and started with the weird free "jazz" shit like the 45 minutes of crap that is Ascension was when jazz died..
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 03, 2015, 04:18:32 pm
well he's right... name the last rap album you loved? Tribe?


all he forgot to add is that they are stealing the riff from some song everyone already loves.
true...Low End Theory was probably the last rap/hip hop album I have purchased or liked
well king krule kinda has a rap'esq thing going on...not sure if anyone in rap would think that counts


what's funny is the stones were stealing riff's from the American blues guys too
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on September 03, 2015, 04:23:52 pm
well he's right... name the last rap album you loved? Tribe?


all he forgot to add is that they are stealing the riff from some song everyone already loves.
true...Low End Theory was probably the last rap/hip hop album I have purchased or liked
well king krule kinda has a rap'esq thing going on...not sure if anyone in rap would think that counts


what's funny is the stones were stealing riff's from the American blues guys too


its different to play the same riff in your own way... with different recording facilities, equipment etc...as part of a different song... than to take an actual recording and simply place your own words over it...

the concept of the Stones taking a riff that sounded like Muddy Waters or whoever, or Mick Jagger singing like a dead-on Don Covay, is different than Vanilla Ice taking the keyboard and bass from under pressure and singing his banalities over it..

I have a wonderful cd by the Hellacopters (HighVisibility) which at times sounds quite a bit like Thin Lizzy but its not Thin Lizzy... a lot of these rappers would simply take the Thin Lizzy recording and rap over it..

Now I happen to think a lot of early hip hop which relied on samples is tons of fun and I love it......but there is a difference between Deacon kind of ripping off the bass from Good Times for Another One Bites the Dust and the Sugarhill Gang simply rapping over Chic....or not?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on September 03, 2015, 05:29:27 pm
making some big generalities there, hutch... do you really think all rap is exactly the same as vanilla ice?

and in case you haven't been keeping up, the age where rappers can rip entire songs via samples as use that as the only basis for a tune is essentially over.  clearing samples has become cost-prohibitive.  other than that Minaj "my anaconda" remake (which she had sir mixalot's permission to do, so nothing to clear), when was the last time you hear a rap song that was a clear, top-to-bottom rip of an old tune?  yeah... vanilla ice.  1990.  all those classic rap albums from the 80's and 90's couldn't be produced in today's environment.  instead, rappers need to use session musicians, royalty-free samples (i.e. music you've never heard of), etc.

i'm not a big fan or rap.  i listen to some, occasionally, but i've def not a fanboy.  on the other hand i feel that dismissing the entire genre as "inane babbling over someone else's music" is asinine.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on September 03, 2015, 06:06:36 pm
making some big generalities there, hutch... do you really think all rap is exactly the same as vanilla ice?

and in case you haven't been keeping up, the age where rappers can rip entire songs via samples as use that as the only basis for a tune is essentially over.  clearing samples has become cost-prohibitive.  other than that Minaj "my anaconda" remake (which she had sir mixalot's permission to do, so nothing to clear), when was the last time you hear a rap song that was a clear, top-to-bottom rip of an old tune?  yeah... vanilla ice.  1990.  all those classic rap albums from the 80's and 90's couldn't be produced in today's environment.  instead, rappers need to use session musicians, royalty-free samples (i.e. music you've never heard of), etc.

i'm not a big fan or rap.  i listen to some, occasionally, but i've def not a fanboy.  on the other hand i feel that dismissing the entire genre as "inane babbling over someone else's music" is asinine.

no I dont' think all rap is the same as vanilla ice, i'm aware of the changes regarding samples and dismissing an entire genre is a bit much BUT overall I tend to agree that rap is a waste..its not the late 60s with Aretha or the 70s with Stevie...these rap albums a year or two after release are consigned to the dustbins of history....they are not art with any sort of lasting impact.. of course there are exceptions but for example ibought the latest Kendrick lamar or whatever his name is and the most interesting thingsabout the album ARE the samples... probably the D'Angelo is closer to my speed.. I think it has staying power..but then again that is more a soul album than a rap album...clearing samples is expensive but its pivotal for the bigname artists.... that and a million guest appearances... I can't stand these rap albums 20 guest rappers..what is the deal with that anyways?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on September 03, 2015, 06:16:37 pm
BUT overall I tend to agree that rap is a waste..

fair enough.  some people think that rock n' roll is nothing but "a lot of noise."  whachagonnado...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on September 03, 2015, 06:45:03 pm
What year are we in?


There's a ton of good hip-hop that is very forward-thinking musically.

<cue killsaly>
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on September 03, 2015, 06:50:01 pm
What year are we in?


There's a ton of good hip-hop that is very forward-thinking musically.

<cue killsaly>


its really hard to say if its forward thinking unless you go forward, no? but I actually differentiate between rap and hip-hop a bit....maybe that is wrong of me... in any case, feel free to cite some current-ish hip-hop albums you think will leave a lasting legacy on music say in 10-20 years...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 03, 2015, 08:42:33 pm
Since it's all about the controversial statement today and this has been buggin me for awhile..

I find most major label "neo-soul" acts to slickly produced for my tastes and their records leave me cold.  There are rare exceptions i.e Lianna La Havas.  But I'll be stickin' with Daptone, G.E.D. Soul, Hope Street Records, Acid Jazz, Tru Thoughts, Record Kicks, Ubiquity for my neo-soul.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on September 03, 2015, 08:44:22 pm
Most of Timbaland and The Neptunes' productions from 10-20 years ago have made a big impact on what we're hearing now.
(Missy Elliott's ...So Addictive and Supa Dupa Fly, Clips's Lord Willin' just to name a few)
W/R/T stuff that will leave a big impact in 10-20 years, Kanye West's Yeezus set a pretty high bar and yeah, that Kendrick Lamar album is also up there.
What year are we in?


There's a ton of good hip-hop that is very forward-thinking musically.

<cue killsaly>


its really hard to say if its forward thinking unless you go forward, no? but I actually differentiate between rap and hip-hop a bit....maybe that is wrong of me... in any case, feel free to cite some current-ish hip-hop albums you think will leave a lasting legacy on music say in 10-20 years...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on September 03, 2015, 08:45:15 pm
This, I can fully get behind.
Since it's all about the controversial statement today and this has been buggin me for awhile..

I find most major label "neo-soul" acts to slickly produced for my tastes and their records leave me cold.  There are rare exceptions i.e Lianna La Havas.  But I'll be stickin' with Daptone, G.E.D. Soul, Hope Street Records, Acid Jazz, Tru Thoughts, Record Kicks, Ubiquity for my neo-soul.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 03, 2015, 10:15:55 pm
This, I can fully get behind.
Since it's all about the controversial statement today and this has been buggin me for awhile..

I find most major label "neo-soul" acts to slickly produced for my tastes and their records leave me cold.  There are rare exceptions i.e Lianna La Havas.  But I'll be stickin' with Daptone, G.E.D. Soul, Hope Street Records, Acid Jazz, Tru Thoughts, Record Kicks, Ubiquity for my neo-soul.
but as perpendicular to thread at this point as possible

true as it may be
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 03, 2015, 10:21:05 pm
e, feel free to cite some current-ish hip-hop albums you think will leave a lasting legacy on music say in 10-20 years...
I seriously want to know this answer too
since 1995...so past 20 years

Name 10 rap (hip-hop as the hipster prefer to call it) albums we'll be talking about ....in 10-20 years
(although I really would have a hard time making a list of indie/alt bands either...but that's not the point)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on September 03, 2015, 11:55:58 pm
Since it's all about the controversial statement today and this has been buggin me for awhile..

I find most major label "neo-soul" acts to slickly produced for my tastes and their records leave me cold.  There are rare exceptions i.e Lianna La Havas.  But I'll be stickin' with Daptone, G.E.D. Soul, Hope Street Records, Acid Jazz, Tru Thoughts, Record Kicks, Ubiquity for my neo-soul.

Some of these guys are as market researched and tested as Josh Groban and Michael Bubbly. The cover for Leon Bridges album couldn't be more cynically assembled.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 04, 2015, 05:51:18 am
Since it's all about the controversial statement today and this has been buggin me for awhile..

I find most major label "neo-soul" acts to slickly produced for my tastes and their records leave me cold.  There are rare exceptions i.e Lianna La Havas.  But I'll be stickin' with Daptone, G.E.D. Soul, Hope Street Records, Acid Jazz, Tru Thoughts, Record Kicks, Ubiquity for my neo-soul.

Some of these guys are as market researched and tested as Josh Groban and Michael Bubbly. The cover for Leon Bridges album couldn't be more cynically assembled.

which of course helps to explain why he went from SXSW darling to a sold out club tour six months later.  and likely why one see more major label single/ep debuts posted up on soundcloud with the obligatory links to itune.   
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 04, 2015, 06:23:28 am
You can also be assured that Andra Day is the next big thing, although her album is far to much in the Amy Winehouse range for my liking
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on September 04, 2015, 07:33:49 am
And when az cites kanye as an important album to the genre and era, there is no point in debating.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 04, 2015, 08:29:29 am
And when az cites kanye as an important album
I know I thought that was one of the signs of the upcoming apocalypse
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on September 04, 2015, 08:36:27 am
I think in 20 years Kanye will be far better known for being the father of some Kardashians or something....

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on September 04, 2015, 08:42:13 am
You can also be assured that Andra Day is the next big thing, although her album is far to much in the Amy Winehouse range for my liking

Just like when you forecasted Alice Smith was the next big thing?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on September 04, 2015, 08:44:25 am
so wilco has a new album right? star wars is it?

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on September 04, 2015, 08:48:31 am
e, feel free to cite some current-ish hip-hop albums you think will leave a lasting legacy on music say in 10-20 years...
I seriously want to know this answer too
since 1995...so past 20 years

Name 10 rap (hip-hop as the hipster prefer to call it) albums we'll be talking about ....in 10-20 years
(although I really would have a hard time making a list of indie/alt bands either...but that's not the point)


While I agree with your sentiment regarding the staying power of modern music....we'll all be 60 year old white guys in 10-20 years. I'm not sure whether we're talking about albums from 20 years past (rap in particular) will be the barometer of an albums' importance.

Isn't the question about lasting importance more accurately determined by what our kids or even grandkids are listening to 20 years (and beyond) from now?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on September 04, 2015, 08:49:31 am
so wilco has a new album right? star wars is it?



Pitchfork loves it. I prefer the Wilco albums pitchfork hates.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on September 04, 2015, 08:53:47 am
so wilco has a new album right? star wars is it?



Pitchfork loves it. I prefer the Wilco albums pitchfork hates.

I like it after a few listens... nothing annoys me more than the noisey nels-rockers that all sound the same.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 05, 2015, 11:46:59 am
actual description of a band ::)

where reggae meets klezmer, cumbia meets hip-hop and indie-rock meets afrobeat. Neither purist nor revivalist, this is music of the present, for the future. :o
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on September 05, 2015, 12:28:44 pm
AKA avoid avoid avoid!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on September 10, 2015, 12:15:36 pm
http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2015/09/cassette_store_2.html
Cassette Store Day (October 17) release list is out...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: vansmack on September 10, 2015, 02:47:24 pm
35 Years of New Order in 60 Short Minutes (http://www.avclub.com/article/35-years-new-order-60-short-minutes-224759)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 10, 2015, 03:12:15 pm
35 Years of New Order in 60 Short Minutes (http://www.avclub.com/article/35-years-new-order-60-short-minutes-224759)
I think love vigilantes should have made the list...but it's not a best of as he said
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on September 10, 2015, 10:04:46 pm
I've said it a million times but Joy Division/New Order is the most important band of the past 35 years or so....the run between Unknown Pleasures and Technique is unmatched.


Eagerly awaiting the new album...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 12, 2015, 07:57:09 am
It's been a busy week for the Super Furry Animals and all their side projects

30 Tracks of Welsh Rock

http://welshrockforrefugees.bandcamp.com/

In light of the ongoing refugee crisis some of Wales' leading musicians have come together to unite under the banner of Welsh Rock For Refugees. The result is a Reach Out ? a 30-track album from which all proceeds will be donated to Refugee Action ? a UK based charity that helps refugees at home and abroad.
We'd like to thank everyone who has gone out of their way to ensure this album became a reality in less than seven days. We've been truly astounded and humbled by the response.
Find out more about the work of Refugee Action at www.refugee-action.org.uk

For full tracklist details

http://www.nme.com/news/various-artists/88245

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on September 15, 2015, 01:24:58 am
(http://17rg073sukbm1lmjk9jrehb643.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/tamb11-747x1024.jpg)

Miserable Tambourine Players In Western Art History (http://the-toast.net/2015/09/14/miserable-tambourine-players-in-western-art-history/)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: walk,on,by on September 15, 2015, 11:27:14 am
Chaka Khan, on dancing with the stars.

gurrl.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 15, 2015, 04:44:56 pm
San Francisco Police Might Be Sitting On A Briefcase Full Of Unreleased Jerry Garcia Songs  (http://uproxx.com/music/2015/03/jerry-garcia-songs/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=jerrygarcia&utm_campaign=website_clicks)

Jerry Garcia?s abundant songwriting went hand in hand with his frequent drug use. So when he was arrested in San Francisco?s Golden Gate Park on January 19, 1985 for possessing narcotics, no surprise that his confiscated briefcase full of drugs also had unfinished songs in it. Those works, from his rich collaboration with Grateful Dead writer Robert Hunter, are nowhere to be found in evidence. Hunter wants them back, drugs or not.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: vansmack on September 15, 2015, 05:01:55 pm
San Francisco Police Are Doing us All a Favor  (http://uproxx.com/music/2015/03/jerry-garcia-songs/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=jerrygarcia&utm_campaign=website_clicks)

FTFY
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on September 15, 2015, 07:14:28 pm
2015:The Year #Tripmetal Broke (http://www.npr.org/sections/allsongs/2015/09/15/440224957/vikings-choice-wolf-eyes-t-o-d-d?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=nprmusic&utm_term=music&utm_content=20150915)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on September 15, 2015, 10:30:11 pm
2015:The Year #Tripmetal Broke (http://www.npr.org/sections/allsongs/2015/09/15/440224957/vikings-choice-wolf-eyes-t-o-d-d?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=nprmusic&utm_term=music&utm_content=20150915)


that track was pretty effing horrible.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on September 16, 2015, 12:22:04 am
(http://images.moneymanager.com.au/2014/03/07/5239624/HP-Spectrum-aw-20140306115002245923-620x349.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on September 16, 2015, 07:37:14 am
San Francisco Police Might Be Sitting On A Briefcase Full Of Unreleased Jerry Garcia Songs  (http://uproxx.com/music/2015/03/jerry-garcia-songs/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=jerrygarcia&utm_campaign=website_clicks)

Jerry Garcia?s abundant songwriting went hand in hand with his frequent drug use. So when he was arrested in San Francisco?s Golden Gate Park on January 19, 1985 for possessing narcotics, no surprise that his confiscated briefcase full of drugs also had unfinished songs in it. Those works, from his rich collaboration with Grateful Dead writer Robert Hunter, are nowhere to be found in evidence. Hunter wants them back, drugs or not.

abundant songwriting???? I think he barely wrote a handful of songs his last 15 years...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on September 23, 2015, 04:12:26 pm
Get ready for (CD) Record(able) Store Day (http://www.thewire.co.uk/news/38539/cdr-record-store-day)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on September 23, 2015, 04:16:32 pm
Sweet.  I support Record Store Day and Cassette Store Day already...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 23, 2015, 04:24:33 pm
Get ready for (CD) Record(able) Store Day (http://www.thewire.co.uk/news/38539/cdr-record-store-day)
I don't get it, they're just selling CD-Rs for you to burn music on?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 24, 2015, 12:25:31 pm
(http://cdn.ustatik.com/article/news/3/37293_ver1443049248.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 24, 2015, 01:00:08 pm
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-L7tbTVw1760/Vd3tqbD-KnI/AAAAAAAAA_U/hOAXZaQixPA/s1600/list_of_the_lost.jpg)

maybe Moz can describe it better:

?The theme is demonology ? the left-handed path of black magic. It is about a sports relay team in 1970s America who accidentally kill a wretch who, in esoteric language, might be known as a Fetch ? a discarnate entity in physical form. He appears, though, as an omen of the immediate deaths of each member of the relay team. He is a life force of a devil incarnate, yet in his astral shell he is one phase removed from life. The wretch begins a banishing ritual of the four main characters, and therefore his own death at the beginning of the book is illusory.?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 29, 2015, 02:06:46 pm
How Radiohead?s ?Kid A? Kicked Off the Streaming Revolution (http://grantland.com/hollywood-prospectus/how-radioheads-kid-a-kicked-off-the-streaming-revolution/)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on September 29, 2015, 02:20:26 pm
Best vinyl pressing plant snafu ever? (https://twitter.com/wildhoneybmore/status/648733985577828352)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on October 01, 2015, 11:09:08 am
(http://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/diamondbackonline.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/2/fb/2fb00bb0-67fc-11e5-a87d-9b69534e2cd2/560cc2d367554.image.jpg?resize=760%2C428)

UMD performing arts library exhibit displays punk history of D.C. zines (http://www.diamondbackonline.com/news/umd-performing-arts-library-exhibit-displays-punk-history-of-d/article_0416b16c-67c4-11e5-abcc-67c0f8163844.html)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on October 01, 2015, 11:35:53 am
New Matmos album/app
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/id1042412676
Quote
Description

Chalkwell Park is a new sound app by Matmos commissioned by Metal for NetPark.

Matmos spent a week at Chalkwell Hall in June 2015, sampling and recording the sounds of the people, the park and environs. Sounds include peacocks, skateboarding, fences, a playground and a pond.

The key instruction is 'Listen, then drift' inside Chalkwell Park, Southend-on-Sea. As you wander you will encounter a series of eight tracks including the instructions. This app is best experienced with headphones.

Use the map to navigate towards each GPS zone and the track will automatically play. Switch GPS on before starting.

If you are unable to visit Chalkwell Park in Southend-on-Sea then click on 'MP3' to play the tracks wherever you are.

Approximate listening time: 30 minutes.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on October 01, 2015, 11:27:39 pm
roland USB mini-synths... weeeeee!

https://www.facebook.com/Roland/videos/10154352287333298/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on October 02, 2015, 11:39:58 am
(http://40.media.tumblr.com/61e5712b3db7fe0b3b55d68435a47310/tumblr_nvifk7vroj1qz8z2ro1_500.png)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 02, 2015, 11:42:33 am
Garfield Minus Garfield. Classic.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Relaxer on October 02, 2015, 11:45:48 am
Oh my god I love Garfield Minus Garfield. Almost every one fills me with such depressed joy.

(http://38.media.tumblr.com/fSymsOGXO9atet2eZk4Gi2tu_r1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 02, 2015, 03:24:31 pm
Real billboard (http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2015/10/steve_albini_em.html#more)
(http://conversationsabouther.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Albini-billboard1.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 05, 2015, 05:47:04 pm
The Cure's Robert Smith Remixes Ride's "Vapour Trail" (http://pitchfork.com/news/61488-the-cures-robert-smith-remixes-rides-vapour-trail/)

great photo too
(http://cdn2.pitchfork.com/news/61488/d92b8b26.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on October 07, 2015, 10:36:10 am
I really love Tiny Mix Tapes. (http://www.tinymixtapes.com/music-review/deafheaven-new-bermuda)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 08, 2015, 12:16:03 pm
always knew Fugazi was a Vietnam era term for f'd up
but never knew that it was an acronym for this... "Fucked Up, Got Ambushed, Zipped In [into a body bag]"

not from their first show, but a very early flyer

(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/12088090_1245597895456138_4855715632287463489_n.jpg?oh=10eed88ba39a98dbb27c7801280d7b47&oe=5684A704)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on October 08, 2015, 12:32:29 pm
I knew FUBAR was "fucked up beyond all recognition" thanks to that Ken Burns WWII miniseries.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 08, 2015, 12:50:17 pm
I knew FUBAR was "fucked up beyond all recognition" thanks to that Ken Burns WWII miniseries.

I learned FUBAR from the roy scheider classic

(http://runmovie.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Blue-Thunder-poster.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 08, 2015, 01:00:11 pm
I still think Son In Law in his seminal work.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on October 08, 2015, 03:52:48 pm
I said it'd be less than five years. (http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2015/10/lcd_soundsystem_49.html)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 08, 2015, 03:58:47 pm
I said it'd be less than five years. (http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2015/10/lcd_soundsystem_49.html)

I welcome it. They were spectacularly fun to see. That show with Yacht at the 9:30 Club was amazing.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on October 08, 2015, 04:07:11 pm
I said it'd be less than five years. (http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2015/10/lcd_soundsystem_49.html)


if they reunite after april 2016, it will be more than 5 years... ;D
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on October 08, 2015, 04:12:12 pm
Yeah that was fun.
I said it'd be less than five years. (http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2015/10/lcd_soundsystem_49.html)

I welcome it. They were spectacularly fun to see. That show with Yacht at the 9:30 Club was amazing.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on October 08, 2015, 07:31:39 pm
Yeah that was fun.
I said it'd be less than five years. (http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2015/10/lcd_soundsystem_49.html)

I welcome it. They were spectacularly fun to see. That show with Yacht at the 9:30 Club was amazing.

it was because of the DJ right?

http://forum.930.com/index.php?topic=7994.0
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on October 08, 2015, 07:41:53 pm
TBH I showed up right before LCDSS went on.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on October 13, 2015, 11:50:46 am
Pitchfork goes Condé Nast (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/14/business/media/conde-nast-buys-pitchfork-media.html)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on October 13, 2015, 02:22:18 pm
The line in Condé Nast's press release about "passionate millennial males" can't be making Pitchfork's female writers (who have been responsible for its better content over the last few years) too happy.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 13, 2015, 02:32:48 pm
TBH I showed up right before LCDSS went on.

Yacht (it was just the main guy solo at that point) was one of the weirdest things I have ever seen.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: ggw on October 13, 2015, 02:54:27 pm
"millennial males"

I love the paradox in their use of that phrase.  It's an acknowledgment that this business deal was driven by a desire to gain advertiser dollars looking to tap into a high spending demographic (and cross sell them into other CN publications).  While the average pitchfork reader understands that he is part of a massive demographic herd, he tries to bury that knowledge under his belief in his own indie-ness.  That CN would so ham-fistedly remind the readers that they are simply part of this large demographic mass shows that Conde Nast really doesn't know much about pitchfork.  But they do know how to listen to their consultants at McKinsey and this will likely turn out to be a very good acquisition (8.5).
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 13, 2015, 03:06:17 pm
The line in Condé Nast's press release about "passionate millennial males" can't be making Pitchfork's female writers (who have been responsible for its better content over the last few years) too happy.
they were referring to the audience, not the staff
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Relaxer on October 13, 2015, 03:11:36 pm
Plus I wonder to what extent "millennial males" even care about Pitchfork anymore. My impression is that most present-day readers of Pitchfork are 30-40, which is more Gen Y than millennial. Every generation has its "lol u old" media. My Gen X generation felt that way about Rolling Stone. Gen Y probably felt that way about Spin. And millennials look at Pitchfork and associate it with Radiohead and Animal Collective, which aren't exactly modern bands anymore.

I'm pulling all of this outta my ass, by the way.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: ggw on October 13, 2015, 03:17:29 pm
Plus I wonder to what extent "millennial males" even care about Pitchfork anymore. My impression is that most present-day readers of Pitchfork are 30-40, which is more Gen Y than millennial. Every generation has its "lol u old" media. My Gen X generation felt that way about Rolling Stone. Gen Y probably felt that way about Spin. And millennials look at Pitchfork and associate it with Radiohead and Animal Collective, which aren't exactly modern bands anymore.

I'm pulling all of this outta my ass, by the way.

Isn't "Millennial" just a re-branding of Gen Y?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 13, 2015, 03:21:02 pm
I'm pulling all of this outta my ass, by the way.
you're ass is pretty spot on though
although I was always a MMR/trouser press/Village Voice kinda guy
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Relaxer on October 13, 2015, 03:21:46 pm
Plus I wonder to what extent "millennial males" even care about Pitchfork anymore. My impression is that most present-day readers of Pitchfork are 30-40, which is more Gen Y than millennial. Every generation has its "lol u old" media. My Gen X generation felt that way about Rolling Stone. Gen Y probably felt that way about Spin. And millennials look at Pitchfork and associate it with Radiohead and Animal Collective, which aren't exactly modern bands anymore.

I'm pulling all of this outta my ass, by the way.

Isn't "Millennial" just a re-branding of Gen Y?
Probably, but I think of generations as coming in 15-20 year chunks.

So your Greatest Generation is ancient times to 1945, Baby Boomers from 45-65, Gen X from 65-80, Gen Y from 80 to 95, and millenials beginning at 95 and onward (which means we're damn well ready for a new shiny generation label)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on October 13, 2015, 03:28:15 pm
I know. But it smacks of an outdated sentiment that women can't be discerning music fans (then again, how much of a discerning music fan is your average Pitchfork reader in 2015, anyway? I almost only ever go there anymore to read something someone I know has written.).
The line in Condé Nast's press release about "passionate millennial males" can't be making Pitchfork's female writers (who have been responsible for its better content over the last few years) too happy.
they were referring to the audience, not the staff
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on October 13, 2015, 03:28:46 pm
This is what I thought.
Plus I wonder to what extent "millennial males" even care about Pitchfork anymore. My impression is that most present-day readers of Pitchfork are 30-40, which is more Gen Y than millennial. Every generation has its "lol u old" media. My Gen X generation felt that way about Rolling Stone. Gen Y probably felt that way about Spin. And millennials look at Pitchfork and associate it with Radiohead and Animal Collective, which aren't exactly modern bands anymore.

I'm pulling all of this outta my ass, by the way.

Isn't "Millennial" just a re-branding of Gen Y?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on October 13, 2015, 03:37:57 pm
Isn't "Millennial" just a re-branding of Gen Y?
YES. (also the term has been around since 1987...)

The years are up for debate but it is more like:

Generation Z - 1995 to 2012

Generation Y (aka Millennials) - 1980 to 1995

Generation X - 1965 to 1980

The years can vary a bit depending on what study you look at. 


So your Greatest Generation is ancient times to 1945, Baby Boomers from 45-65, Gen X from 65-80, Gen Y from 80 to 95, and millenials beginning at 95 and onward (which means we're damn well ready for a new shiny generation label)
No.  Millennials and Gen Y are the SAME THING.

http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/millennials-millennial-generation
http://www.socialmarketing.org/newsletter/features/generation3.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennials
http://people.howstuffworks.com/culture-traditions/generation-gaps/millennial-generation.htm
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: stevewizzle on October 13, 2015, 03:44:16 pm
Plus I wonder to what extent "millennial males" even care about Pitchfork anymore. My impression is that most present-day readers of Pitchfork are 30-40, which is more Gen Y than millennial. Every generation has its "lol u old" media. My Gen X generation felt that way about Rolling Stone. Gen Y probably felt that way about Spin. And millennials look at Pitchfork and associate it with Radiohead and Animal Collective, which aren't exactly modern bands anymore.

I'm pulling all of this outta my ass, by the way.

i think that's about right. millennial music fans are into festivals, electronic music, and molly. they could care less about rock n roll, punk rock, or any of the garbage being reported about tyler the creator or jack white.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: stevewizzle on October 13, 2015, 03:56:58 pm
curious: where's everyone getting their music news and album release info these days?

always been a huge fan of the work over at gorilla vs bear, but it's pretty niche. i've started to frequent BV more as it seems to appeal to a larger audience, but it's a workout getting through their massive content feed.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: ggw on October 13, 2015, 04:18:53 pm
hoborock.com
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 13, 2015, 04:19:26 pm
hoborock.org
FTFY. Technically they're non-profit. . .
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: walk,on,by on October 13, 2015, 04:20:29 pm
those weird, gorilla versus bear shows I hear on the Sirius xmu stations are just beyond my level of odd, almost to the point of trying too hard to be weird and the music is so . . . dare I say, hoboish.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on October 13, 2015, 04:20:56 pm
Facebook.com
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: stevewizzle on October 13, 2015, 04:22:47 pm
those weird, gorilla versus bear shows I hear on the Sirius xmu stations are just beyond my level of odd, almost to the point of trying too hard to be weird and the music is so . . . dare I say, hoboish.

hey man.

hobos are people too.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on October 13, 2015, 04:26:23 pm
hoborock.org
FTFY. Technically they're non-profit. . .

I don't think they could afford a .org... probably more like .tv
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on October 13, 2015, 05:09:31 pm
CMJ seems like a nightmare.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on October 14, 2015, 03:56:46 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CRS7QiqUEAA7PIi.jpg:large)

Happy 80th, La Monte Young!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on October 14, 2015, 04:51:34 pm
curious: where's everyone getting their music news and album release info these days?

always been a huge fan of the work over at gorilla vs bear, but it's pretty niche. i've started to frequent BV more as it seems to appeal to a larger audience, but it's a workout getting through their massive content feed.
The Quietus
Tiny Mix Tapes
Impose
Collapseboard
Fact

And just following a bunch of musicians on Twitter. Wax Idols just put a stream of her new album up there, for instance.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 15, 2015, 11:01:53 am
(http://mainstbrewery.com/images/moe.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 15, 2015, 11:38:32 am
Tiny Mix Tapes
I love TMT.

I used to like a site called Fake Jazz but it hasn't been up in forever. And, of course, there was Bigyawn. . .
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on October 15, 2015, 11:42:29 am
Tiny Mix Tapes
I love TMT.

I used to like a site called Fake Jazz but it hasn't been up in forever. And, of course, there was Bigyawn. . .
Dusted was another good one.
They still sort of exist on Tumblr but it's not the same.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: slappy on October 15, 2015, 01:45:10 pm
You can download the entire archive of The Fader on BitTorrent for free as part of their 100 issue anniversary.

http://www.thefader.com/2015/10/13/download-every-fader-issue-free (http://www.thefader.com/2015/10/13/download-every-fader-issue-free)

Also a good place to find new music.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: walk,on,by on October 15, 2015, 04:34:09 pm
how much music, is too much music?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on October 15, 2015, 07:04:20 pm
Whoa... Showtime is airing the Jam documentary

http://www.sho.com/sho/reality-docs/titles/3425369/the-jam-about-the-young-idea#/index
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on October 15, 2015, 10:19:35 pm
Still don't know who Demi Lovato is.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 16, 2015, 08:44:57 am
Still don't know who Demi Lovato is.
ya see there is this thing called the internet and it's kinda like those three witches in Macbeth
as it will prophesize your ascent but also coyly foreshadow your downfall
plus it's cool for the summer
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on October 16, 2015, 10:32:53 am
Still don't know who Demi Lovato is.
ya see there is this thing called the internet and it's kinda like those three witches in Macbeth
as it will prophesize your ascent but also coyly foreshadow your downfall
plus it's cool for the summer

The thing is that she pops up occasionally, and peripherally, in my quotidian adventures here on the tubes. But she has never risen to the level of interest that compelled me to ask Siri WTF she is. This has been going on long and often enough that I find my disinterest in her to be more interesting. Even though I don't care about her, I am compelled to care even less.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 16, 2015, 11:17:42 am
She was a Disney channel starlet on a show called Sonny With A Chance and she had a pop music career early on as well. She had to leave her show to enter a treatment program for an eating disorder and cutting. She is something of a spokesman for mental health issues and continues to have a pop career. I will say, by teenybop standards, she has some of the more complex stylistic styling of that genre. (I maintain that Heartattack is one of the more interesting, composition and structure-wise, songs to hit the top 10 in years.)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 20, 2015, 02:00:01 pm
A Hüsker Dü Reunion Suddenly Seems Possible  (http://www.stereogum.com/1837557/a-husker-du-reunion-suddenly-seems-possible/news/?utm_source=share-fb&utm_medium=button)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on October 20, 2015, 07:08:10 pm
Not happening.
Collaborating on merch sales and playing together again are very different. They don't have to be in the same room together for the former.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 21, 2015, 04:17:09 pm
Umm...Dag Nasty is playing the Fun Fun Fest?
only reunion show
(http://assets.rollingstone.com/assets/2015/media/197557/_original/1432761462/1035x1600-FFFX_Poster.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on October 21, 2015, 04:22:25 pm
/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: walk,on,by on October 21, 2015, 04:34:14 pm
you know . . . that list is so grand and so great, I can read it twice.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on October 21, 2015, 04:52:42 pm
The initial post was not resized and was only showing two columns and you had to scroll to see the right side.  I will delete my post now since it was fixed.

So now you just seem crazy...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 21, 2015, 05:13:05 pm
you know . . . that list is so grand and so great, I can read it twice.
I edited my original post as it was kinda wide...but you could read the Dag Nasty part
pretty killer line up actually, wish I lived near Austin
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 21, 2015, 05:13:56 pm
So now you just seem crazy...
I don't think that post was the decider in that eval
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 22, 2015, 01:01:58 pm
so ...is this Dag Nasty thing real?
nothing on their webpage or FB
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: walk,on,by on October 22, 2015, 01:19:42 pm
so, fox is remaking rocky horror next fall for television.  and Laverne cox is the new frank. 

http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/22/entertainment/laverne-cox-rocky-horror-thr-fear/


fuck, that
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 22, 2015, 02:17:02 pm
so ...is this Dag Nasty thing real?
nothing on their webpage or FB

little more info (http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2015/05/fun_fun_fun_fes_41.html) from months ago

The lineup for the Dag Nasty reunion is the same one they played the Salad Days show in DC with in 2012: original vocalist Shawn Brown, plus Brian Baker, Roger Marbury and Colin Sears.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on October 23, 2015, 12:52:36 am
so ...is this Dag Nasty thing real?
nothing on their webpage or FB

little more info (http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2015/05/fun_fun_fun_fes_41.html) from months ago

The lineup for the Dag Nasty reunion is the same one they played the Salad Days show in DC with in 2012: original vocalist Shawn Brown, plus Brian Baker, Roger Marbury and Colin Sears.


brian baker rulz
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 23, 2015, 08:58:07 am
so ...is this Dag Nasty thing real?
nothing on their webpage or FB

little more info (http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2015/05/fun_fun_fun_fes_41.html) from months ago

The lineup for the Dag Nasty reunion is the same one they played the Salad Days show in DC with in 2012: original vocalist Shawn Brown, plus Brian Baker, Roger Marbury and Colin Sears.
brian baker rulz

although to be honest...Dag without Dave Smalley is not the line up I want to see
Even though I think Shawn wrote most of the songs they recorded on Can I Say ...dave is the one on the record
Never saw them live in the day
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on October 23, 2015, 09:21:00 am
Based on Twitter, there champagne corks popping over at Target and Best Buy. They might even need to add more CD racks....
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 23, 2015, 09:28:15 am
Based on Twitter, there champagne corks popping over at Target and Best Buy. They might even need to add more CD racks....
??
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on October 23, 2015, 09:30:54 am
I believe that is a joke about the new Adele album.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 23, 2015, 09:37:18 am
I believe that is a joke about the new Adele album.

Oh, got it.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on October 23, 2015, 09:52:17 am
Yup... Pretty sure all the news outlets I follow have mentioned it....
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: bearman🐻 on October 23, 2015, 10:30:36 am
Based on Twitter, there champagne corks popping over at Target and Best Buy. They might even need to add more CD racks....

One of my coworkers heard the new single in her car this morning and walked into the office crying.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on October 23, 2015, 10:34:44 am
my local Target just downsized their CD section 75%..
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 23, 2015, 10:41:32 am
well considering there are 3 target's within a 6 mile radius of your abode...which one is your 'local' target
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: walk,on,by on October 23, 2015, 10:49:31 am
Based on Twitter, there champagne corks popping over at Target and Best Buy. They might even need to add more CD racks....

One of my coworkers heard the new single in her car this morning and walked into the office crying.

yes, gaga, yes
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on October 23, 2015, 11:09:59 am
Yeah, the racks at Target, Best Buy et al. are much smaller in number than even a year ago. That's what happens when you stock nothing but a) stuff that everybody's already bought, and b) stuff that appeals to markets that don't buy CDs.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 23, 2015, 11:20:24 am
I will buy an Adele CD when she resembles a human being and not a plastic bag filled with lard.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: ggw on October 23, 2015, 11:23:16 am
I will buy an Adele CD when she resembles a human being and not a plastic bag filled with lard.

I gotta think this guy's BMI is well over 40:

(http://www.alternativenation.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/billycorgansiddhartha.png)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on October 23, 2015, 11:26:37 am
well considering there are 3 target's within a 6 mile radius of your abode...which one is your 'local' target

wow we have a winner for STUPID QUESTION OF THE DAY here.


the closest one, you think????
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 23, 2015, 11:32:33 am
I will buy an Adele CD when she resembles a human being and not a plastic bag filled with lard.

I gotta think this guy's BMI is well over 40:

(http://www.alternativenation.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/billycorgansiddhartha.png)
40? That's insane. He's getting up there but you have to account for the fact he has like a 6'4" frame. He'd have to be 330 pounds to be a 40 BMI. That's clearly not 330 pounds.

That said, yeah, dude is getting rotund.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 23, 2015, 11:41:13 am
well considering there are 3 target's within a 6 mile radius of your abode...which one is your 'local' target

wow we have a winner for STUPID QUESTION OF THE DAY here.


the closest one, you think????
well...I always found it odd that off route 50 there are 3 targets within 8 miles of each other
so it was more a riff off that that which was the closest as they are all so unique
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on October 23, 2015, 01:20:59 pm
I will buy an Adele CD when she resembles a human being and not a plastic bag filled with lard.

I gotta think this guy's BMI is well over 40:

(http://www.alternativenation.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/billycorgansiddhartha.png)
40? That's insane. He's getting up there but you have to account for the fact he has like a 6'4" frame. He'd have to be 330 pounds to be a 40 BMI. That's clearly not 330 pounds.

That said, yeah, dude is getting rotund.

LOOK AT HIM - HE IS ALL THAT IS WRONG WITH THIS COUNTRY.  WE SHOULD KILL HIM FOR DESTROYING AMERICAN SOCIETY, PROVIDING A HORRIBLE EXAMPLE FOR OUR CHILDREN AND CAUSING SUFFERING EVERYWHERE HE GOES!!!

also, he's fat.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 23, 2015, 02:03:10 pm
Jules I can only assume you read the SP  (http://www.alternativenation.net/smashing-pumpkins-mellon-collie-and-the-infinite-retrospective/)piece on MCatIS  retrospective
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 23, 2015, 03:40:54 pm
Dylan does an IBM ADvert (https://youtu.be/pwh1INne97Q)  (old news from earlier this month)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on October 23, 2015, 04:22:10 pm
How NPR Killed College Rock
by Ian Svenonius
http://www.newrepublic.com/article/123187/how-npr-killed-college-rock
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on October 23, 2015, 09:49:24 pm
Based on Twitter, there champagne corks popping over at Target and Best Buy. They might even need to add more CD racks....

Seems a bit needy....

1. Hello
2. Send My Love (To Your New Lover)
3. I Miss You
4. When We Were Young
5. Remedy
6. Water Under The Bridge
7. River Lea
8. Love In The Dark
9. Million Years Ago
10. All I Ask
11. Sweetest Devotion
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on October 24, 2015, 07:24:26 am
How NPR Killed College Rock
by Ian Svenonius
http://www.newrepublic.com/article/123187/how-npr-killed-college-rock
I'll probably go to his talk at Busboys before The Ex with Ken Vandermark and Puff Pieces on Tuesday.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: ggw on October 25, 2015, 01:55:14 pm
How NPR Killed College Rock
by Ian Svenonius
http://www.newrepublic.com/article/123187/how-npr-killed-college-rock

NPR Voice Has Taken Over the Airwaves (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/25/fashion/npr-voice-has-taken-over-the-airwaves.html) - A plague of pregnant pauses and off-kilter pronunciations.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: K8teebug on October 27, 2015, 12:25:33 pm
Can someone please help me understand Joanna Newsom? She's adorable, and I'm sure she's an accomplished musician, and I appreciate what she's trying to do, but it just sounds awful to me. Terrible and awful. What am I missing?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 27, 2015, 12:26:53 pm
Can someone please help me understand Joanna Newsom? She's adorable, and I'm sure she's an accomplished musician, and I appreciate what she's trying to do, but it just sounds awful to me. Terrible and awful. What am I missing?
I adore her. She definitely seems to be one of those acts where there's no one on the fence: you either love her or find it ridiculous. If you've listened to Ys and don't like it, I'm not going to convince you otherwise.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on October 27, 2015, 12:29:49 pm
Can someone please help me understand Joanna Newsom? She's adorable, and I'm sure she's an accomplished musician, and I appreciate what she's trying to do, but it just sounds awful to me. Terrible and awful. What am I missing?

I don't care for her music, but surely she upped her coolness factor by marrying the SNL dude.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on October 27, 2015, 12:43:27 pm
it just sounds awful to me. Terrible and awful.

THIS.  

What am I missing?

the hype.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on October 27, 2015, 01:05:47 pm
Can someone please help me understand Joanna Newsom? She's adorable, and I'm sure she's an accomplished musician, and I appreciate what she's trying to do, but it just sounds awful to me. Terrible and awful. What am I missing?
I adore her. She definitely seems to be one of those acts where there's no one on the fence: you either love her or find it ridiculous. If you've listened to Ys and don't like it, I'm not going to convince you otherwise.
I could not even get through one song on her new album.

No thanks!!!!!!

Thankfully we all have different tastes, or it would be a boring world!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on October 27, 2015, 01:14:17 pm
She definitely has a nicer ass than either of the Indigo Girls. So there's that.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 27, 2015, 01:17:28 pm
please advise  ;D
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7246/8163703463_73e31117c3_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: K8teebug on October 27, 2015, 03:38:51 pm
She definitely has a nicer ass than either of the Indigo Girls. So there's that.

And a cooler house.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on October 27, 2015, 03:49:10 pm
I liked The Milk-Eyed Mender and Ys but thought Have One on Me was bloated and self-indulgent and never made it all the way through it. Yet to listen to her new one.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 27, 2015, 04:25:42 pm
. . . but thought Have One on Me was bloated and self-indulgent . . .
Triple LP HOT TAKES!! *sizzle*
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on October 27, 2015, 05:03:40 pm
Is it still a hot take if the take came five years after the fact?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on October 27, 2015, 08:54:10 pm
I don't care for her music, but surely she upped her coolness factor by marrying the SNL dude.

You've got that backwards.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 30, 2015, 09:30:52 am
so the foo's are up to sum-thin (http://lobby.foofighters.com)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on October 30, 2015, 09:34:26 am
so the foo's are up to somthing (http://lobby.foofighters.com)

That probably explains why out of the blue my daughter asked me the other day "Daddy, what's a foo?"
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Relaxer on October 30, 2015, 09:56:35 am
(http://cdn2.natalie.mu/media/1509/0903/extra/news_xlarge_startrain_cover_lim.jpg)

Sigh.

Probably my most anticipated release of the past few months, Perfume's new ep is very disappointing. Just sorta limp and lifeless, and not a single moment of exuberance. I listen to 'Level 3' or 'JPN' and I want to race a dancing kitty kat automobile to the joyful candy moon or something, but this new one just makes me feel like an old oatmeal woman.

(http://41.media.tumblr.com/167b9f6bb2457638bb7a4a87405be6e9/tumblr_nwf0vxGTg31rcoad1o1_500.jpg)

Fortunately Red Velvet saves the day with their debut album, quixotically called "The Red" and smashing lead-off single "Dumb Dumb".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGdbaEDVWp0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGdbaEDVWp0)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on October 30, 2015, 08:14:23 pm
Another SPIN list:
http://www.spin.com/2015/10/every-smashing-pumpkins-song-ranked/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on October 31, 2015, 02:08:02 am
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/11163810_447960745412365_2115204108213042339_n.jpg?oh=e7a78257dcd94a58981d279698de8a1b&oe=56AF49C4)

Wolf Eyes plus Kid Rock???
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on November 02, 2015, 09:00:38 am
A Stone Roses announcement is due soon.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 02, 2015, 10:33:10 am
(http://punkglobe.com/Images2015/november15/misfats%201.jpg)
Julian's latest soundtrack
the Misfats (http://punkglobe.com/themisfatsinterview1115.php)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on November 02, 2015, 03:05:59 pm
No new Stone Roses, just a couple more UK live dates..
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on November 02, 2015, 08:33:11 pm
No new Stone Roses, just a couple more UK live dates..

wake up. they are a dead band
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on November 02, 2015, 09:51:23 pm
No new Stone Roses, just a couple more UK live dates..

wake up. they are a dead band

how many bands do you know that can spark sudden interest merely by posting posters of their lemon logo around manchester?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: vansmack on November 02, 2015, 10:16:45 pm
(http://www.ampvisual.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/u2-lemon-amp-visual-graphic-design.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on November 02, 2015, 11:49:33 pm
Holy Fuck dude slows Chipmunks music to sludge
http://www.avclub.com/article/slowed-down-chipmunks-are-both-brilliant-and-terri-227794
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: bearman🐻 on November 03, 2015, 10:21:29 am
No new Stone Roses, just a couple more UK live dates..

wake up. they are a dead band

The Ramones are a dead band. I'm not sure the Roses qualify. I'm willing to give them a shot. If anything because Reni is a superb natural as a drummer and John Squire is one of the better guitarists. Ian Brown is horrid as a singer though.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: walk,on,by on November 03, 2015, 12:00:57 pm
so if a whole new ramones band popped up with like one original band member and the rest, all new ramones, doing all old songs and making new songs as well, you would like them, and go see them live?  they dressed the same, the same no break song attack, the same hair.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on November 03, 2015, 12:02:44 pm
everybody knows if the stone roses ever make any new music it will suck....its hard to get excited about an announcement to play huge shows in England. its all about the benjamins for them....
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on November 03, 2015, 01:36:40 pm
Holy Fuck dude slows Chipmunks music to sludge
http://www.avclub.com/article/slowed-down-chipmunks-are-both-brilliant-and-terri-227794

this is amazing.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on November 03, 2015, 03:29:38 pm
Holy Fuck dude slows Chipmunks music to sludge
http://www.avclub.com/article/slowed-down-chipmunks-are-both-brilliant-and-terri-227794

this is amazing.

this
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on November 03, 2015, 06:53:14 pm
I am trying something similar with a dance album they put out in the 90s... But it just sounds like the female vocal originals...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on November 09, 2015, 07:22:39 pm
Don Giovanni records had an everything must go sale in advance of their move from NJ via Kickstarter and for $27 bucks they sent me 5 random CDs + 2 extras..  They sent me a Vacation, Screaming Females, Waxahatchee, Upset, Priests, Peter Stampfel and The Brooklyn & Lower Manhattan Bango Squardron and Castle Talk...  Guess I better put up the "Do Not Distrub" sign.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on November 10, 2015, 01:00:00 pm
So we recently watched Love and Mercy, and my wife couldn't stop commenting on how badly punk rock sucks when compared to real musicians like Brian Wilson.

Me, I'm sort of neutral regarding punk. I went to hardcore shows in the late 80's more for the scene than the music. I have the Sex Pistols and Dead Kennedys on my ipod but never listen to them anymore.

Does anybody have a musicological defense of punk based on musical merit alone?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on November 10, 2015, 01:21:48 pm
I went to hardcore shows in the late 80's more for the scene than the music.

i think the answer is hidden in there, in 2 parts.

"in the 80's", i.e. when you were young.  punk is the music of youthful frustration, alienation, etc.  you're no longer that person, so the music doesn't speak to you.

"more for the scene than the music" - arguably the most revolutionary aspect of punk is that it was a music scene that wasn't about the music first.  it was an attitude, a social group, a protest, an identity... that also came with a soundtrack.  to examine it "on musical merit alone" is to miss the point.  it was never meant to stand alone, so it doesn't do well when you try.

YMMV, IMHO, i'm old, etc etc etc.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on November 10, 2015, 01:41:41 pm
I went to hardcore shows in the late 80's more for the scene than the music.

i think the answer is hidden in there, in 2 parts.

"in the 80's", i.e. when you were young.  punk is the music of youthful frustration, alienation, etc.  you're no longer that person, so the music doesn't speak to you.

"more for the scene than the music" - arguably the most revolutionary aspect of punk is that it was a music scene that wasn't about the music first.  it was an attitude, a social group, a protest, an identity... that also came with a soundtrack.  to examine it "on musical merit alone" is to miss the point.  it was never meant to stand alone, so it doesn't do well when you try.

YMMV, IMHO, i'm old, etc etc etc.

Ironically, Anarchy in the UK just came on the radio as I was reading your post.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: ggw on November 10, 2015, 01:45:26 pm
Strangely enough, I was rocking the Fugazi catalog this past weekend.  It is visceral.  Made me bang my head and pump my fist.  It hasn't aged incredibly well, but sometimes I like to get in touch with my inner 14-year old.   
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 10, 2015, 01:48:54 pm

Ironically, Anarchy in the UK just came on the radio as I was reading your post.
catchy tune...although most would argue, not punk ;)
so I guess that is ironic
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on November 10, 2015, 01:54:23 pm

Ironically, Anarchy in the UK just came on the radio as I was reading your post.
catchy tune...although most would argue, not punk ;)
so I guess that is ironic

Who are this "most" you speak of. I guess it wouldn't include readers of Rolling Stone.

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/pictures/readers-poll-the-best-punk-rock-bands-of-all-time-20110802/4-the-sex-pistols-0650614

or this site:

http://rateyourmusic.com/list/BrainToad/top_100_punk_bands_as_voted_by_musicianforums_com_punk_forum_users/2/

or LA Weekly:

http://www.laweekly.com/music/top-20-punk-albums-in-history-the-complete-list-4166542

or, well... you get the picture.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 10, 2015, 01:58:54 pm
quoting RS on this board always increases your street cred
anyone else want to chime in here...


Also, let me be clear on this eve that mr lydon is in town for an intimate gig at UStreet (thanks seth)
I love the pistols
that 930 show they did 2003 was one of my favorite rock shows at the club
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on November 10, 2015, 02:05:14 pm
quoting RS on this board always increases your street cred
anyone else want to chime in here...


Also, let me be clear on this eve that mr lydon is in town for an intimate gig at UStreet (thanks seth)
I love the pistols
that 930 show they did 2003 was one of my favorite rock shows at the club

I was quoting Rolling Stone in the context of your "most" argument. I assumed you were using "most" in a quantifiable context, so I simply picked a music publication that has MANY readers.

Just because some little fanzine that you may have subscribed to 25 years ago said the the Sex Pistols weren't punk doesn't mean it's so.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 10, 2015, 02:09:49 pm
?If you have to ask what jazzPunk is, you'll never know.?

 ― Louis Armstrong just about anyone who listens to "punk music"
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: chaz on November 10, 2015, 02:21:16 pm
So we recently watched Love and Mercy, and my wife couldn't stop commenting on how badly punk rock sucks when compared to real musicians like Brian Wilson.

Me, I'm sort of neutral regarding punk. I went to hardcore shows in the late 80's more for the scene than the music. I have the Sex Pistols and Dead Kennedys on my ipod but never listen to them anymore.

Does anybody have a musicological defense of punk based on musical merit alone?
I really loved that movie, but alas I am a major Beach Boys nerd and 60's nerd in general.   I'm struck by how multi-talented many bands were back then...ie so many bands seemed to have multiple members that could really play and really sing.  Not sure we see that as much any more.

But.

I'm still love punk rock through and through.  I went to tons of show mid 80's through late 80s too...to me that music is all aobut the guts and the aggro.  Some holds up better than others of course, but I still rock the Misfits, Germs, Discharge, Bad Brains, Clash, etc etc etc on the regular.

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on November 10, 2015, 02:59:57 pm
So we recently watched Love and Mercy, and my wife couldn't stop commenting on how badly punk rock sucks when compared to real musicians like Brian Wilson.

Me, I'm sort of neutral regarding punk. I went to hardcore shows in the late 80's more for the scene than the music. I have the Sex Pistols and Dead Kennedys on my ipod but never listen to them anymore.

Does anybody have a musicological defense of punk based on musical merit alone?
I really loved that movie, but alas I am a major Beach Boys nerd and 60's nerd in general.   I'm struck by how multi-talented many bands were back then...ie so many bands seemed to have multiple members that could really play and really sing.  Not sure we see that as much any more.

But.

I'm still love punk rock through and through.  I went to tons of show mid 80's through late 80s too...to me that music is all aobut the guts and the aggro.   Some holds up better than others of course, but I still rock the Misfits, Germs, Discharge, Bad Brains, Clash, etc etc etc on the regular.



You sound like you're talking about stock car racing.  ;)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on November 10, 2015, 03:04:15 pm
So we recently watched Love and Mercy, and my wife couldn't stop commenting on how badly punk rock sucks when compared to real musicians like Brian Wilson.

Me, I'm sort of neutral regarding punk. I went to hardcore shows in the late 80's more for the scene than the music. I have the Sex Pistols and Dead Kennedys on my ipod but never listen to them anymore.

Does anybody have a musicological defense of punk based on musical merit alone?
I really loved that movie, but alas I am a major Beach Boys nerd and 60's nerd in general.   I'm struck by how multi-talented many bands were back then...ie so many bands seemed to have multiple members that could really play and really sing.  Not sure we see that as much any more.

But.

I'm still love punk rock through and through.  I went to tons of show mid 80's through late 80s too...to me that music is all aobut the guts and the aggro.   Some holds up better than others of course, but I still rock the Misfits, Germs, Discharge, Bad Brains, Clash, etc etc etc on the regular.



You sound like you're talking about stock car racing.  ;)

James Ford where you been?? You're back to being an annoying dickhead I see...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on November 10, 2015, 03:08:40 pm
I have to laugh when I hear middle aged men talking about guts and aggro, as if its' a good thing. Probably the reason we're in multiple wars around the world.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: ggw on November 10, 2015, 03:12:51 pm
I feel the same way about the Dead. They were the perfect soundtrack (and lifestyle) for a certain time in my life.  But I don't have the same passion for them anymore. I did the whole touring thing - selling veggie burritos and nitrous.  It was awesome. I had a steal your face on my 1984 Volvo wagon and on my 1979 Mercedes 300 SL.  I still have hundreds of hours of boots. But they don't speak to me any longer.  Maybe if I still took copious quantities of drugs.  
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Relaxer on November 10, 2015, 03:15:58 pm
I still take copious quantities of drugs and I love the Dead and punk still.

Advantage: me
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on November 10, 2015, 03:16:29 pm
I have to laugh when I hear middle aged men talking about guts and aggro, as if its' a good thing. Probably the reason we're in multiple wars around the world.

yes, well we can't all be at the early show on Friday night congratulating ourselves on our most responsible behavior...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on November 10, 2015, 03:17:07 pm
I still take copious quantities of drugs and I love the Dead and punk still.

Advantage: me

Good luck at enjoying the grandkids.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on November 10, 2015, 03:18:14 pm
I have to laugh when I hear middle aged men talking about guts and aggro, as if its' a good thing. Probably the reason we're in multiple wars around the world.

yes, well we can't all be at the early show on Friday night congratulating ourselves on our most responsible behavior...

Why not, will you be busy driving two hours to Charlottesville to see Jonathan Richman?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Relaxer on November 10, 2015, 03:19:00 pm
I still take copious quantities of drugs and I love the Dead and punk still.

Advantage: me

Good luck at enjoying the grandkids.

Watching kids wrestle when you're on drugs is like gazing at a 3D fleshy lava lamp.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on November 10, 2015, 03:20:10 pm
I still take copious quantities of drugs and I love the Dead and punk still.

Advantage: me

Good luck at enjoying the grandkids.

GOLD JERRY.. you really need to start a thread on here to concentrate your "Life coaching" advice at.... I think the community would really benefit from having its members told how to live their lives according to the James Fordian principles
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on November 10, 2015, 03:24:27 pm
I still take copious quantities of drugs and I love the Dead and punk still.

Advantage: me

Good luck at enjoying the grandkids.

GOLD JERRY.. you really need to start a thread on here to concentrate your "Life coaching" advice at.... I think the community would really benefit from having its members told how to live their lives according to the James Fordian principles
Here's some life coaching for parents according to the Julian camp: If your child is fat then you are a bad parent (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/11985974/If-your-child-is-fat-then-you-are-a-bad-parent.html).
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: chaz on November 10, 2015, 03:43:33 pm
I have to laugh when I hear middle aged men talking about guts and aggro, as if its' a good thing. Probably the reason we're in multiple wars around the world.
If you equate what I'm saying to wars etc, you obviously have no idea what i'm talking about.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on November 10, 2015, 03:50:31 pm
I have to laugh when I hear middle aged men talking about guts and aggro, as if its' a good thing. Probably the reason we're in multiple wars around the world.
If you equate what I'm saying to wars etc, you obviously have no idea what i'm talking about.

Male aggression and too much testosterone are responsible for both punk rock and war on planet Earth. I don't see women starting wars and I also never saw very many women at punk rock shows. And most of those who were at shows were just arm-candy for the handful of punk dorks who were normal enough to actually get a girlfriend. Feel free to argue otherwise.  ;)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Relaxer on November 10, 2015, 03:51:44 pm
I have to laugh when I hear middle aged men talking about guts and aggro, as if its' a good thing. Probably the reason we're in multiple wars around the world.
If you equate what I'm saying to wars etc, you obviously have no idea what i'm talking about.

I don't see women starting wars

You've clearly never met my wife when she's PMSing
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on November 10, 2015, 03:56:11 pm
I have to laugh when I hear middle aged men talking about guts and aggro, as if its' a good thing. Probably the reason we're in multiple wars around the world.
If you equate what I'm saying to wars etc, you obviously have no idea what i'm talking about.

I don't see women starting wars

You've clearly never met my wife when she's PMSing

Do we share the same wife?  :D

Still, I highly doubt we'd have as much war in a world run by women.

I guess I just endorsed Hillary.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 10, 2015, 04:21:11 pm
I have to laugh when I hear middle aged men talking about guts and aggro, as if its' a good thing. Probably the reason we're in multiple wars around the world.
If you equate what I'm saying to wars etc, you obviously have no idea what i'm talking about.

I don't see women starting wars

You've clearly never met my wife when she's PMSing

Do we share the same wife?  :D

Still, I highly doubt we'd have as much war in a world run by women.

I guess I just endorsed Hillary.
Although imagine what the world would have been like if McCain/Palin won and he kicked the bucket a few weeks in
I think there'd be lots of (more) wars

I do love this quote
Quote
Male aggression and too much testosterone are responsible for both punk rock and war on planet Earth
would make a great bumper sticker for Hutch's Prius or GGW's Maserati

so by that logic, we should make sure that the president you are voting for has lots of Shoegaze and Tublar Bells in her playlist

while punk was always male dominated, the ladies who front or are members  in L7, slits, the Avengers, X,  Bikini Kill, Sleater-Kinney, Sonic Youth,  X-Ray Spex and of course Patti Smith all might argue that men don't own aggression and punk authenticity

but whatdoIno
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: ggw on November 10, 2015, 05:14:03 pm
would make a great bumper sticker for Hutch's Prius or GGW's Maserati


(http://moelane.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/capitalist.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 10, 2015, 05:38:32 pm
would make a great bumper sticker for Hutch's Prius or GGW's Maserati


(http://moelane.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/capitalist.jpg)

would think the middle finger would be better than the statue of liberty

...ya know since it has this quote on it Give me your tired, your poor,Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed, to me: I lift my lamp beside the golden door.?

Everything else makes sense
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 11, 2015, 03:38:48 pm
would have never pegged Mozart as the first punk....but I'm thinking of changing my stance

Mozart once wrote a song called ?Lick Me in the Ass.? The composer was a big fan of scatological and dirty humor, and wrote a song for six voices called ?Leck Mich im Arsch.? It was probably just a song his pals sang at parties, but still.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Relaxer on November 11, 2015, 03:47:18 pm
I'm pretty sure I've said "leck mich I'm arsch" on one of my bigger benders.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on November 13, 2015, 03:27:51 pm
TRUTH
http://news.nationalpost.com/arts/rap-dads-or-what-happens-when-young-people-get-older-and-stuck-in-their-music-ways
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Relaxer on November 13, 2015, 03:46:21 pm
Quote
Legendary ​rock giants ​Guns N? Roses​ are ​​?days away? from announcing ​a​ world​ reunion tour ​next year, Dish Nation is exclusively reporting.

Guitarist Slash ​has confirmed that he ​and lead singer​ Axl Rose have​​ ​reconciled after ​almost a decade of ​arguments and now Los Angeles music insiders close to the band say they ​have tentatively​ agreed to perform together again in 2016.

It?s expected that they will headline several festivals across Europe and the United States before heading out on a staggered world tour that will coincide with their 30th anniversary​.

?Slash and Axl have verbally agreed to get things together again and reform the original band. The live shows is where they can show the world what they had and also make the greatest earnings,? ​a music insider exclusively told Dish.

?Promoters are quietly working away to land opportunities. Details of the reunion are expected to leak out in the next few days. Everyone is expecting huge demand for tickets, but the boys are very humble and are not sure what to expect.?

Reports have recently come out saying that the band has been offered gigs in Australia, Sweden and Portugal ? although reps for the band have refused to comment.

​Last month a friend close to Slash confirmed that he and Axl are now talking again and a comeback tour ​is close to being rev​e​aled.

Marketing experts say that the American band are on course to coin in a whopping $100 million thanks to ticket sales, CD revenue, licensing and merchandising.

?I know that he and Axl talking again is a really good sign, because we all grew up loving Guns N? Roses. I mean I am an LA kid and I remember when they were playing the Sunset Strip,? ​Slash?s close friend John Murdy told the UK?s Mirror.

?It is so cool to see these guys back when they have been around so long.?

G​uns N? Roses keyboard player Dizzy Reed ​recently hinted a band ​comeback is close​, too.

?With GNR, timelines don?t really apply,? Dizzy told Loudwire.

?And that?s fine, things will come out when they?re ready and we?ll go on tour when we?re ready??

​Even Slash, who refused to speak with Axl, has painted the singer in a more positive light.

?There?s no animosity. Over time we all just got sick and tired of the black cloud,? Slash said in an interview with CBS.

?The biggest thing that happens when you have a break up that is less than harmonious, you build up a bad energy because of the distance. The bad feelings get exaggerated.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on November 13, 2015, 03:53:51 pm
Rumors of an acoustic GNR tour
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjt-aYQO5zA
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: ggw on November 13, 2015, 04:04:15 pm
Coachella? 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on November 15, 2015, 11:14:17 pm
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlt1/v/t1.0-9/12249599_1514740945489964_180280009449785754_n.jpg?oh=e87e22287ecf9f8a4f9e0ad8c90f02c9&oe=56ECD0E0)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: walk,on,by on November 20, 2015, 01:30:19 pm
http://www.musicforcats.com/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Got Haggis? on November 20, 2015, 01:50:18 pm
http://www.musicforcats.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQTXTCxBKi0
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: walk,on,by on November 20, 2015, 01:54:16 pm
my cat looked at that, and went . . . ooh, look, skinny puppy videos on the side.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on November 24, 2015, 09:07:48 pm
http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/6770428/justin-bieber-breaks-beatles-drake-record-hot-100
 As new album 'Purpose' debuts atop the Billboard 200, Bieber posts a record-shattering 17 songs on the Hot 100.
(http://www.billboard.com/files/styles/promo_650/public/media/justin-bieber-red-carpet-amas-2015-billboard-650.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on November 24, 2015, 09:46:11 pm
Bieber boasts 17 songs on the Dec. 5 Hot 100, marking the most titles that any artist has placed on the chart in a single week. He bests the 14 each that the Beatles managed on April 11, 1964 and that Drake earned on the March 7 and Oct. 17 tallies this year.

This has happened because each song is available for streaming (both audio and video) and streams are now counted along with sales and airplay.

It also mirrors the problem of income disparity. Only the rich and connected can accomplish such chart success.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on November 24, 2015, 10:06:36 pm
It is still impressive.
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m37a8ji3rZ1qalcvfo6_500.gif)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 25, 2015, 02:20:03 pm
Paul Westerberg and Juliana Hatfield Release I Don't Cares Song "King of America" (http://pitchfork.com/news/61905-paul-westerberg-and-juliana-hatfield-release-i-dont-cares-song-king-of-america/)

(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfl1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/12278684_801227346654246_8319993898046195617_n.jpg?oh=7f88e7895256d377736e8e0d06e599d2&oe=56B2BF4F)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on November 28, 2015, 05:16:18 pm
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/Nzk5WDc3OQ==/z/0RgAAOSwnGJWSjKO/$_35.JPG)

The Jam The wall
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/THE-JAM-THE-WALL-CHARITY-AUCTION-BY-NICKY-WELLER-For-Detecting-Womens-Cancers-/111833838459?hash=item1a09d0f37b:g:LBAAAOSweuxWSjG5#viTabs_0
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on December 01, 2015, 08:38:24 am
My Bloody Valentine - Loveless  Duvet cover
https://society6.com/product/my-bloody-valentine-loveless_duvet-cover#46=342
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 01, 2015, 10:02:04 am
^that is pretty cool...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on December 01, 2015, 11:56:36 am
Are those official? 

Pillows too...
https://society6.com/nicealb/pillows

I might grab the Talking Heads one.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 01, 2015, 11:59:43 am
Are those official? 
I don't think they are...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 01, 2015, 12:08:29 pm
pre-blondie job
(http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2010/05/27/1225871/989454-debbie-harry-playboy-bunny.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on December 03, 2015, 12:53:55 am
(http://i.imgur.com/bisqStv.jpg)

Star Wars Album Covers (http://imgur.com/gallery/pYGoB)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 03, 2015, 10:00:17 am


Star Wars Album Covers (http://imgur.com/gallery/pYGoB)

nice find these are great too


(http://i.imgur.com/dWloQMC.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/95GUOJH.jpg)


(http://i.imgur.com/wHP0mlF.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on December 03, 2015, 10:41:39 am
the societal Star Wars obsession is really out of control.. this new movie better be great...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on December 03, 2015, 10:48:13 am
Confession... I've never seen all three of the original star wars movies, only one of the "new" star wars movies, and will never see the "new new" star wars movies.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on December 03, 2015, 10:50:37 am
Confession... I've never seen all three of the original star wars movies, only one of the "new" star wars movies, and will never see the "new new" star wars movies.

confession.. I have only seen one of the new movies (the first one) and it BLEW CHUNKS.. awful movie.


the first three are great .. I saw Return of the Jedi in the movie theatre in Kobe, Japan and I still have a vague recollection of it which for me is amazing

I do own the blueray set with all 6 and like 548 hours of bonus features but I couldn't be bothered to watch it...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: walk,on,by on December 03, 2015, 05:10:21 pm
ive seen all the movies, and liked them. yes the lucas three of doom were weak, but had the story and good imagery in sections of each.  the original three were works of master storytelling, film art.  the animated series is good, but tedious to get through.  the books are good if you like to read about the endless quirks of the series.  the video games are actual, pretty darn good.

and yes, the new movie, better be good.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on December 03, 2015, 05:12:25 pm
the original three were works of master storytelling, film art. 
They're nerd crap made for children.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Relaxer on December 03, 2015, 05:16:57 pm
I'm guessing Force Awakens will be an entertaining re-fresh like the Chris Pine iteration of Star Trek. It will be fun, the fx will be solid, everyone will walk out happy, and we'll all move on to the next thing in our lives.

I don't think it will cause the lifelong memories of the original trio (which I will always have, having been 7 years old when Star Wars came out) nor the anguish, rage or debates of the Crap Three. It'll be fine and because I will smoke four pounds of weed before seeing it, I'll be able to watch it entirely anew in about six months.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on December 03, 2015, 05:23:46 pm
Just found out Dry the river have called it quits.. bummer
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on December 03, 2015, 05:24:08 pm
I'm guessing Force Awakens will be an entertaining re-fresh like the Chris Pine iteration of Star Trek. It will be fun, the fx will be solid, everyone will walk out happy, and we'll all move on to the next thing in our lives.

I don't think it will cause the lifelong memories of the original trio (which I will always have, having been 7 years old when Star Wars came out) nor the anguish, rage or debates of the Crap Three. It'll be fine and because I will smoke four pounds of weed before seeing it, I'll be able to watch it entirely anew in about six months.

Have we met?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on December 03, 2015, 05:29:40 pm
Just found out Dry the river have called it quits.. bummer
Oh, actual musicological banter in the Musicological banter thread as opposed to waxing poetic about loser nerd crap? What a droll idea, dear Kosmo.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Relaxer on December 03, 2015, 05:30:06 pm
I'm guessing Force Awakens will be an entertaining re-fresh like the Chris Pine iteration of Star Trek. It will be fun, the fx will be solid, everyone will walk out happy, and we'll all move on to the next thing in our lives.

I don't think it will cause the lifelong memories of the original trio (which I will always have, having been 7 years old when Star Wars came out) nor the anguish, rage or debates of the Crap Three. It'll be fine and because I will smoke four pounds of weed before seeing it, I'll be able to watch it entirely anew in about six months.

Have we met?

I'm standing right behind you.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Relaxer on December 03, 2015, 05:30:45 pm
Besides, my mind is swiss cheese. You could be my twin brother and I probably wouldn't remember you.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on December 03, 2015, 05:31:26 pm
Besides, my mind is swiss cheese.
Might be time to stop doing drugs.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Relaxer on December 03, 2015, 05:41:07 pm
You wanna know when it's a good time to stop doing drugs? I don't know!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: walk,on,by on December 03, 2015, 06:44:53 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/bEJNL1n.gif)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 07, 2015, 10:04:20 am
bit much calling these guys band of the year (http://consequenceofsound.net/2015/12/band-of-the-year-tame-impala/)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on December 07, 2015, 04:08:12 pm
Stealing this from /r/ShowerThoughts:

Quote
Star Wars and Metallica fans are the same: die hard fans that never stop talking about their first three albums, have been disappointed with everything since then and are always hopeful the next release will redeem them.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on December 07, 2015, 10:02:42 pm
Neil Peart retires...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 11, 2015, 01:01:19 pm
like the onion...the headline is the story here

Punk scientists discover fourth chord (http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/science-technology/punk-scientists-discover-fourth-chord-2015032496607)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on December 20, 2015, 12:29:55 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/SnyMoVu.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 23, 2015, 10:16:22 am
(http://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/styles/story_large/public/thumbnails/image/2015/12/21/17/2-kinks.jpg)
. In a surprise appearance that one fan described as ?The season for miracles,? Ray and Dave Davies shared a stage for the first time since The Kinks? final performance in June 1996.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 23, 2015, 02:14:40 pm
kinda cool...shot in front of the 930 club
said 2012? any idea what it was for?
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-GJSmtTk-lMI/T4BEr9C_XZI/AAAAAAAAASU/wuNY181CPvQ/s1600/Keith_Ian_Henry.jpg)


Ian doing a selfie with keith :)
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/f3/a1/23/f3a1231336c01e658b4584d1b055afa8.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 23, 2015, 04:05:41 pm
Came across this jem (https://youtu.be/ED0B12poVG4) of a video


looks like they took the NPR audio of first night of the Sleater Kinney show on 2/24/15 (1st night) and then culled together lots of good video (some fan and lots of pro)
but there are a few times when you can spot hutch and sidehatch up at the VIP area (got to be quick and use your imagination)

Edit...the whole thing was done by NPR (I thought they just did the audio)

ok both for Walky and the SK fans

I give you Sleater-Kitty

(https://img0.etsystatic.com/046/2/8268597/il_570xN.729760834_hm3f.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on December 23, 2015, 04:12:23 pm
The audio is shit.  That was from a sound board recording by NPR? 

Compare that to the recording of Low at 930 Club by them:
http://www.npr.org/2011/04/04/9432230/low-with-loney-dear-in-concert

Almost perfect. Beautiful.  That SK video sounds like garbage.

Weird... I found this video by NPR for SK, and it the sound is actually ok.
http://www.npr.org/event/music/388196234/live-tuesday-sleater-kinney-in-concert
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 23, 2015, 04:15:58 pm
The audio is shit.  That was from a sound board recording by NPR? 

Compare that to the recording of Low at 930 Club by them:
http://www.npr.org/2011/04/04/9432230/low-with-loney-dear-in-concert

Almost perfect. Beautiful.  That SK video sounds like garbage.

Weird... I found this video by NPR for SK, and it the sound is actually ok.
http://www.npr.org/event/music/388196234/live-tuesday-sleater-kinney-in-concert
I think it's the same
but I'm at work and just listening through one crappy headphone
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: walk,on,by on December 23, 2015, 06:18:56 pm
kult
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: walk,on,by on December 23, 2015, 08:32:02 pm
god . . . I love coldplay.  that's right, god, im talking to you directly.  im listening to back to back to back albums.  what, the fuck, is wrong with me, god?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 04, 2016, 06:09:00 pm
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/946186_10153289507341630_1650728570927814304_n.jpg?oh=6a639d86e4bbafc2bd7252c295204ce7&oe=5719A9E0)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on January 04, 2016, 06:26:38 pm
http://consequenceofsound.net/2016/01/meet-babypod-an-intravaginal-speaker-that-delivers-music-to-your-fetus/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on January 04, 2016, 06:27:20 pm
god . . . I love coldplay.  that's right, god, im talking to you directly.  im listening to back to back to back albums.  what, the fuck, is wrong with me, god?

do you know how i know you're gay?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on January 06, 2016, 10:03:06 pm
Gaz Coombes will soon be announcing some US tour dates, hopefully it's not one of those NYC/LA type tours...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on January 06, 2016, 11:19:01 pm
Gaz Coombes will soon be announcing some US tour dates, hopefully it's not one of those NYC/LA type tours...

U ST HALL!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 11, 2016, 04:06:00 pm
Folks, we're filming an experimental music video with Two Inch Astronaut and we NEED YOUR HELP.

 Concept for the video is we set up the dudes in the middle of the room then surround them with a circle of people all holding out selfie sticks looking in at the band. They play through the track while everyone records video simultaneously with their selfie stick-mounted phones.

 Once we've captured that footage everyone will offload it from their phones onto Mike O'Brien's computer. He'll then edit between the footage to create a final music video that swoops through the various selfie-stick-mounted perspectives of the people arrangement.

 This has every possibility of being a nauseating and terrible final product or it might be cool. Either way we want to give it a shot.

 IF YOU'D LIKE TO HELP MAKE THIS VIDEO AND HAVE A SMARTPHONE THAT CAN RECORD VIDEO PLEASE COME HELP US BY HOLDING A SELFIE STICK AND FILMING PART OF THIS THING!!!

 We have 30 selfie sticks already but if you have one and can bring it too it will only help to have more.

 ROUGH SCHEDULE:

 Noon - Arrive at HITS. Begin Setting Up.
 1:00pm - Begin Filming.
 2:00pm - Finish Filming. Begin Footage Offload
 3:00pm - Complete Footage Offload.
 4:00pm - $$$ PROFIT $$$


 Sunday at 12 PM - 3 PM
Hole in the Sky Collective
2110 5th St NE, Fl 2ND, Washington, District of Columbia 20002


Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on January 16, 2016, 12:29:01 pm
From David Thomas' (https://www.facebook.com/pereubu) Facebook page:

Ubu Rule #3. Trust the first idea you get.
This principle is not for the weak-willed and untrained. It's possibly inspired by Eric Carmen. Eric Carmen was the leader of The Raspberries, a 70s Cleveland pop band with a number of big hits. He had a vision. He was going to write a hit record and he was going to call it 'Hit Record' and it would be a hit record. He went to the record company and they said, "You can't call it that!" and they made him change the title to 'Overnight Sensation.' It became a hit record and the word is that Eric was so crushed by the disappointment that he never quite recovered. Possibly apocryphal but that's not relevant.


Then his response to the comment, "Love Wally Harper's guitar work on the Raspberries...":

Do you mean Bryson? I wanted to ask him to do a lead on the last RFTT album but chickened out. Paul knows him and he doesn't live from from Suma, but... It's like the time I was supposed to call Van Dyke Parks to produce the 'Worlds In Collision' album. I was flown out to LA to do it, I sat in a hotel room 3 days getting up the nerve. I finally dialed. He answered and I hung up. Yes, Van Dyke, that was me.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: azaghal1981 on January 16, 2016, 04:22:40 pm
I may have mentioned this on here already but Parks' Twitter (http://twitter.com/thevandykeparks) is one of the better ones. It's like an on-going Youtube mix tape with various other musings thrown in here and there.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: walk,on,by on January 17, 2016, 12:16:58 am
It's over, lil wayne.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on January 21, 2016, 06:35:05 pm
It turns out Donald Trump's father was the racist landlord Woody Guthrie hated (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/01/21/1472974/-It-turns-out-Donald-Trump-s-father-was-the-racist-landlord-Woody-Guthrie-hated?detail=facebook)

(yes, cross posted)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: bearman🐻 on January 28, 2016, 12:17:24 am
Sounds like Curve has some news coming soon. Not sure if it's a reissue, reunion or what...but it sounds promising.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on January 28, 2016, 12:44:23 am
Dean did post this on Facebook today... Plenty of SPC ECO mentions..

BUT, the last line is "Other shit going down that I can't speak of just yet but yeah, it's cool" (maybe that is the Curve news...)

Also, badass he is working with Preston of Bloody Knives.

Quote
All sorts going down, New S E record done and in the bag, June release via SMR (Vinyl and CD) very very pleased with it, Rose just gets better by the day and the bass aint half bad either. Monti helped with this one so expect a smattering of noisy fills and some other tasty shit. 50 one off and individual Lino print Anomalies T shirts are in the to do tray, more on those soon. Working on a conceptual S E project to, very cool idea that will either be brilliant or awesome if we get it sorted, gonna try and publish it before the Anomalies album is released, gonna take some doing but we have the ways and Mont's Bentley Mega Comp with us atm...Will turn up everything there is to turn up...

Working on some new tracks with Preston Maddox as well that are just fucking awesome, looking for an album release this year. Not sure what it'll be called but I think you'll be digging it this summer, I'm loving what we have so far...

Monti and I have made an album that is dark n moody as fuck, we've just gotta to mix it which Mont thinks will take an hour. Looking to publish twenty minutes after that is sorted. Bax named us M.A.D (work it out) that is sticking. That Rose is featured too, def one to dip into any goody bag and zone the fuck out to.... Love.

Other shit going down that I can't speak of just yet but yeah, it's cool
smile emoticon
xx
Look at the fucking time..I must be mad...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on January 28, 2016, 01:32:09 am
Also on Curve's Facebook page:
".  Happy New Year everyone. sorry it's late I've been snowed under with stuff, have only just come up for air.

Interesting turn of events looming....More soon."
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on January 28, 2016, 12:39:44 pm
Oh, Monti drummed in Curve, and Dean/Monti have a project coming this year... Probably not a Curve reunion or anything...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on January 28, 2016, 01:21:41 pm
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/feminism/rape-street-harassment-and-trolls-this-punk-band-has-a-song-for-that/2016/01/27/6c83c042-9851-11e5-8917-653b65c809eb_story.html

^ nice write-up on Baltimore feminist-punk and hardcore band, War on Women
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: walk,on,by on January 28, 2016, 05:34:16 pm
new rihanna.  horrible.  that's, all. 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on January 29, 2016, 01:28:10 pm
Just found out that one of members of Bombay Bicycle Club is the son of Kristy MacColl. 

Apparently Andy Partridge wrote songs for The Monkees at some point.  I also like the fact he follows no one on Twitter.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 29, 2016, 02:09:14 pm
Just found out that
I think you are supposed to use TIL -> today I learned
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on January 29, 2016, 02:21:26 pm
NO -> n o p e
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: walk,on,by on January 29, 2016, 09:31:02 pm
this . . . is your, new everything.  some are nsfw, I think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7yUi_86bUU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkL9Fpp1FF4&oref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DQkL9Fpp1FF4&has_verified=1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dt_HcHtGG3Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5ycIxB4MTI&oref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dx5ycIxB4MTI&has_verified=1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omSrNuiQ5Hg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeTyi2uWUMg
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 01, 2016, 11:13:06 am
Spent far to much time trying to stream the new Primal Scream single with Sky Ferrera only to find it was a bit of a fluffy New Orderish track.  I know Primal Scream is always stretching boundaries, but hopefully the new one isn't all dance pop..
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on February 01, 2016, 11:27:12 am
Spent far to much time trying to stream the new Primal Scream single with Sky Ferrera only to find it was a bit of a fluffy New Orderish track.  I know Primal Scream is always stretching boundaries, but hopefully the new one isn't all dance pop..

(https://i.imgflip.com/yehy2.jpg) (https://imgflip.com/i/yehy2)via Imgflip Meme Maker (https://imgflip.com/memegenerator)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 03, 2016, 10:44:14 am
man I thought B&S was doing ok financially...but apparently he is hawking Scotlands version of the Street Sheet instead of going the kickstarter route
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/12688038_10153566763668500_3090779915409683450_n.jpg?oh=f6aa9cb4ecc077814ab27704a7e44225&oe=572AB439)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 04, 2016, 12:29:58 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xat1/v/t1.0-9/12651081_10153995095753619_6384708709790651787_n.jpg?oh=50047af5b460624449653ea6fe6d79d8&oe=573D5929&__gda__=1462017771_bc572f705b338c0de74a6189b6113552)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 05, 2016, 03:49:53 pm
Today KEXP observes the fourth annual International Clash Day, featuring twelve hours of music, as well as rarities, side projects, and exclusive interviews.
http://www.kexp.org/ (http://www.kexp.org/)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 05, 2016, 04:11:10 pm
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/10897961_10152662793098603_8614784540053351402_n.jpg?oh=e32fc94d993c2c02b044b5b7adb5011b&oe=573992BE)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on February 09, 2016, 01:47:41 pm
http://www.playboy.com/articles/cassettes-experimental-music-labels-and-guardians-of-the-galaxy-fans
Playboy drops nudity, and starts writing articles about cassettes?  And mentions saxophonist/electronic musician Andrew Bernstein of Horse Lords (and solo) and with links to his crazy music? 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 09, 2016, 01:51:37 pm
http://www.playboy.com/articles/cassettes-experimental-music-labels-and-guardians-of-the-galaxy-fans
Playboy drops nudity, and starts writing articles about cassettes?  And mentions saxophonist/electronic musician Andrew Bernstein of Horse Lords (and solo) and with links to his crazy music? 
Dear God, you're actually reading Playboy for the articles. We are through the looking glass here, people!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on February 09, 2016, 01:53:12 pm
^ No.  I did not read yet. The label that released the Andrew Bernstein solo tape, NNA Records, posted the link on Facebook.  All I did was open it and scroll down until I saw said tape.  I do plan on reading the article later today though.  And maybe seeing if they have anything else interesting.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on February 09, 2016, 02:44:40 pm
my father in law commented about this while i was watching the super bowl with him...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 09, 2016, 03:11:39 pm
my father in law commented about this while i was watching the super bowl with him...
wow, wouldn't have pegged him as a Andrew Bernstein fan?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on February 09, 2016, 03:50:02 pm
Damn, grandpa must be a cool ass dude. 

What does he think about Andrew's circular breathing technique?  It impresses the hell out of me.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: bob72 on February 11, 2016, 11:02:24 am
are there any musicians on this board? preferably someone around my age (old) who is still learning or been playing less than a year?

Instrument doesn't matter... guitar, bass, drums, triangle, wood block

I strive to some day utter the phrase "I'm getting the band back together"
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: walk,on,by on February 11, 2016, 11:07:36 am
that's cool.  good, luck.  I know there is a dj, and music experts, but I cant remember if people on here are actually musicians . . . but there was one person that had something to do with the dead milkmen tour.  I hate going back and searching.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on February 11, 2016, 11:08:38 am
are there any musicians on this board? preferably someone around my age (old) who is still learning or been playing less than a year?

Instrument doesn't matter... guitar, bass, drums, triangle, wood block

I strive to some day utter the phrase "I'm getting the band back together"

I play some mean G, C, D, E, A, and F chords on the ole acoustic.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 11, 2016, 11:12:09 am
are there any musicians on this board? preferably someone around my age (old) who is still learning or been playing less than a year?

Instrument doesn't matter... guitar, bass, drums, triangle, wood block

I strive to some day utter the phrase "I'm getting the band back together"

I play some mean G, C, D, E, A, and F chords on the ole acoustic.
Don't feel bad, B is a tricky bastard.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Relaxer on February 11, 2016, 11:24:54 am
I play guitar. My frequency of playing comes and goes, but I've been back to playing most every day for a year or so. Have always wanted to take lessons but never got around to it. So instead I either figure out how to play songs I want to play or I put a song on the boombox and play along with it. I was always able to play along with White Stripes records really well.

I'm also in the process of teaching my youngest son to play. Kids simply love to play an electric guitar turned way the hell up.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 11, 2016, 11:29:44 am
. Kids simply love to play an electric guitar turned way the hell up.
I think that's universal
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Relaxer on February 11, 2016, 11:33:07 am
I know right? And yet so few fathers harness this sexy energy.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: bob72 on February 11, 2016, 11:35:51 am
I play guitar. My frequency of playing comes and goes, but I've been back to playing most every day for a year or so. Have always wanted to take lessons but never got around to it. So instead I either figure out how to play songs I want to play or I put a song on the boombox and play along with it. I was always able to play along with White Stripes records really well.
I had taken two months worth of lessons about 3 years ago, with intermittent playing since then, Recently I've been putting more focus on it and plan on signing back up for lessons, figure out what my goals are, etc. Having no family or responsibilities that normal adults have I'm able to put some time into it.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 11, 2016, 11:51:51 am
Having no family or responsibilities that normal adults have I'm able to put some time into it.
while I truly lived a blessed life....I do yearn for that freedom of time and where I spend my money
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: bob72 on February 11, 2016, 12:06:00 pm
Having no family or responsibilities that normal adults have I'm able to put some time into it.
I do yearn for that freedom of time and where I spend my money
yes, one of the many benefits of being a single, aging, fat gay man lol
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on February 11, 2016, 12:10:34 pm
I am not your age, and have been playing guitar and bass since the late 90s (and sang in a band for a bit) and have been making music on my computer since 2003 (and played rhythm guitar and synth for a band for a few years until 2010). Why do you ask? (I am still learning though...)

are there any musicians on this board? preferably someone around my age (old) who is still learning or been playing less than a year?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on February 11, 2016, 12:16:42 pm
Having no family or responsibilities that normal adults have I'm able to put some time into it.
I do yearn for that freedom of time and where I spend my money
yes, one of the many benefits of being a single, aging, fat gay man lol

pics?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on February 11, 2016, 12:16:56 pm
are there any musicians on this board?  

depending what you mean by "musician", sure.  i play guitar (i have acoustics and electrics), some keys (nothing too fancy, mostly as an input tool for electronic music), i've played some bass, and i used to play a weird ukrainian harp called a bandura (haven't broken it out in years, tho).

preferably someone around my age (old)

again, depends what you call "old"... i'm certainly not young.

who is still learning or been playing less than a year?

sorry, can't help you there.  took various lessons in my pre-teens, taught myself guitar in my teens, started mucking about with keyboards & MIDI gear about 12 years ago.

Having no family or responsibilities that normal adults have I'm able to put some time into it.

that's a biggie.  the amount of time i've spent playing music has cratered since the kiddos were born.  they're now at an age where they like listening to me play... for about 30 seconds.

(I am still learning though...)
 
amen.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on February 11, 2016, 12:21:17 pm
Kiddo quote of the day:



"Any bad music is Adele."

or was it "Adele is bad music"?

Anyway, I approve of that message.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: bob72 on February 11, 2016, 12:26:16 pm

again, depends what you call "old"... i'm certainly not young.


44

pics?

um lol, no

Why do you ask?
not to sound like a craigslist personal, but I'm looking for people who might be interested in getting together musically
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on February 11, 2016, 01:12:03 pm
whoaaa...forum band.......
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 11, 2016, 01:14:11 pm
whoaaa...forum band.......
Didn't we have a thread for band names that don't exist but should? They should select one of those.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: bob72 on February 11, 2016, 01:15:12 pm
whoaaa...forum band.......
Didn't we have a thread for band names that don't exist but should? They should select one of those.
oh no, I already have that picked out... Shell Thunderpants!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 11, 2016, 01:19:18 pm
whoaaa...forum band.......
Didn't we have a thread for band names that don't exist but should? They should select one of those.
oh no, I already have that picked out... Shell Thunderpants!
sorry, but weak...someone please post link to thread
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 11, 2016, 01:25:17 pm
whoaaa...forum band.......
Didn't we have a thread for band names that don't exist but should? They should select one of those.
oh no, I already have that picked out... Shell Thunderpants!
sorry, but weak...someone please post link to thread
I concur, that is just awful. Let us help you (http://forum.930.com/index.php?topic=24094.0), Bob.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: bob72 on February 11, 2016, 01:48:34 pm


I concur, that is just awful. Let us help you (http://forum.930.com/index.php?topic=24094.0), Bob.
meh, nothing really jumped out at me
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 15, 2016, 09:54:35 am
Building Code Violations for the Love Shack (http://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/building-code-violations-for-the-love-shack)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on February 15, 2016, 07:55:25 pm
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g16/beetsnotbeats/early%20mats_zps6o6piyk6.jpg) (https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/see-these-never-before-published-photos-of-the-late-great-replacements/2016/02/11/92616de8-cf7c-11e5-88cd-753e80cd29ad_gallery.html?hpid=hp_no-name_photo-story-b%3Ahomepage%2Fstory)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on February 15, 2016, 08:58:42 pm
Are we all ready to see Johnny Depp rock a guitar?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 19, 2016, 10:28:14 am
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/12717815_977003682392946_7643773369369931829_n.jpg?oh=75ecb574fc1121b10c13193010c7b8a2&oe=5760C1F8)

Luna
we are selling the remaining signed (and unsigned) Luna tour 2015 posters over at http://www.pledgemusic.com/projects/brittaphillips and if you buy a poster you get a free download of Britta's album when it releases April 29.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on February 21, 2016, 03:48:56 pm
http://pitchfork.com/features/articles/9371-the-pitchfork-guide-to-festivals/
^ A handy guide to upcoming festivals, if that is your thing
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 22, 2016, 03:16:58 pm
The Lucy Dacus star seems to be rising quickly

just got named Spin's album of the week (http://www.spin.com/2016/02/review-lucy-dacus-no-burden/?utm_source=spintwitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=spintwitter)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 22, 2016, 03:23:44 pm
The Lucy Dacus star seems to be rising quickly

just got named Spin's album of the week (http://www.spin.com/2016/02/review-lucy-dacus-no-burden/?utm_source=spintwitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=spintwitter)

Seeing her for the first time reminded me of seeing Waxahatchee (with a band) for the first time. You just knew, a year from then Eternal Summers and Wildhoney would be opening for her. Really, really good.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 22, 2016, 05:49:04 pm
noisy is streaming her new album
http://noisey.vice.com/blog/lucy-dacus-debut-album-no-burden-premiere (http://noisey.vice.com/blog/lucy-dacus-debut-album-no-burden-premiere)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on February 22, 2016, 06:11:35 pm
I am digging this WAYYYYYYYYYYY more than Waxahatchee. 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 23, 2016, 10:10:42 am
cool little story (http://gothamist.com/2016/02/22/cbgb_awning_mystery_solved.php) about the CBGB's awning


this was funny: Louise Staley, who was head booker and basically ran the club from 1986 until the last day, told me it's long been believed that the band Jody Foster's Army (JFA) stole the original awning after their gig in the 1980s?"rumor has it they hung it in their backyard." This was backed up by others at the club, though JFA never responded to my request for comments and confirmation (no one's going to arrest you guys!).
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: bob72 on February 23, 2016, 10:48:56 am
cool little story (http://gothamist.com/2016/02/22/cbgb_awning_mystery_solved.php) about the CBGB's awning


this was funny: Louise Staley, who was head booker and basically ran the club from 1986 until the last day, told me it's long been believed that the band Jody Foster's Army (JFA) stole the original awning after their gig in the 1980s?"rumor has it they hung it in their backyard." This was backed up by others at the club, though JFA never responded to my request for comments and confirmation (no one's going to arrest you guys!).
lol, I remember seeing JFA in 1987. they do the best cover of the Charlie Brown theme song
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on February 23, 2016, 02:18:46 pm
cool little story (http://gothamist.com/2016/02/22/cbgb_awning_mystery_solved.php) about the CBGB's awning


this was funny: Louise Staley, who was head booker and basically ran the club from 1986 until the last day, told me it's long been believed that the band Jody Foster's Army (JFA) stole the original awning after their gig in the 1980s?"rumor has it they hung it in their backyard." This was backed up by others at the club, though JFA never responded to my request for comments and confirmation (no one's going to arrest you guys!).
lol, I remember seeing JFA in 1987. they do the best cover of the Charlie Brown theme song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsPztRRyNPA
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 24, 2016, 04:07:30 pm
The Lucy Dacus star seems to be rising quickly

just got named Spin's album of the week (http://www.spin.com/2016/02/review-lucy-dacus-no-burden/?utm_source=spintwitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=spintwitter)

any she is now playing the club on 4/24 opening for Houndmouth (a show I was already considering going to)



We are very very very very very excited to announce we'll be supporting Houndmouth on tour this April! Playing some incredible rooms in cities we love:

4/13: Urbana, IL @ The Canopy Club
 4/14: Kansas City, MO @ Midland Theatre
 4/15: Columbia, MO @ The Blue Note
 4/16: Iowa City, IA @ Englert Theatre
 4/19: Detroit, MI @ Majestic Theatre
 4/20: Cleveland, OH @ House of Blues
 4/22: Philadelphia, PA @ Union Transfer
 4/23: New York, NY @ Terminal 5 w/Rayland Baxter
 4/24: Washington, DC @ 9:30 Club
 4/26: Carrboro, NC @ Cat?s Cradle
 4/27: Charleston, SC @ Charleston Music Hall
 4/29: Nashville, TN @ Cannery Ballroom


Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on February 24, 2016, 04:10:53 pm
 She is playing at a house venue in DC this weekend as well.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 24, 2016, 04:13:39 pm
She is playing at a house venue in DC this weekend as well.
I already posted that
well well Lucy Dacus just tweeted me

‏@lucydacus

we are actually! Playing Bathtub Republic on 2/27! Bringin vinyl and such 👍🏽


(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/12717266_830181467092515_7805520474983707856_n.jpg?oh=307e40123e042e372a5395584d0a74b0&oe=575BD3AF)

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on February 24, 2016, 04:20:50 pm
I thought Killsaly was granted a 100 year concession with exclusivity on upcoming hobo rock concert announcements for the greater DC area? This is in addition to his concession for the Baltimore area. (also with a no competition clause)..
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on February 24, 2016, 04:24:38 pm
Only for Baltimore.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 26, 2016, 01:00:24 am
David W. Niven was a high school teacher from New Jersey. But his legacy will be the 650 cassette tapes of early jazz that he recorded throughout his lifetime. The set spans more than 1000 hours and gives a fantastic insight into the development of jazz through the years 1921-1991. Niven also wrote setlists and notes that come along with the collection on Archive.org (https://archive.org/details/davidwnivenjazz)


The main reason for doing this rather major project was to put my collection into some kind of compendium form that would attract my children to the music that had been of such significance in my life. My collection amounted to over 10,000 hours of tapes. No two people will agree with my selection of Legends. I decided to choose from the years prior to the BeBop period, i.e., before Gillespie, Bird, Monk, Miles.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 26, 2016, 09:54:46 am
Michael Gira accused of rape by collaborator. (http://pitchfork.com/news/63780-swans-michael-gira-calls-rape-accusations-by-former-collaborator-larkin-grimm-a-slanderous-lie/)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 26, 2016, 11:47:08 am
can anyone find relaxer (az might be there too as he often attends these)
Behind The Scenes At The Tiny Desk in 360˚: Wilco   (https://youtu.be/R2osJjSNxTE)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 26, 2016, 11:48:22 am
I think you can see Sarah Koenig pop into the frame for a few seconds on the right shortly after the 3 minute mark. It makes sense since she's a NPR employee.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 26, 2016, 11:51:45 am
Herbert puts out a recording on a torilla (http://pitchfork.com/news/63787-matthew-herbert-launches-edible-sounds-series-with-tortilla-record/)

Weird gimmick aside, this guy is awesome. I don't understand how he isn't more highly regarded. He had, like, a moment of relevance around the time Scale comes out but he's pretty consistently great.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on February 27, 2016, 10:05:53 pm
What happened to movie soundtracks?  They used to rule in the 90s and even a tiny bit into the 2000s, but now???

I am talking about soundtracks like Clerks, Trainspotting, the Crow, Spawn, Demon Knight, High Fidelity, Velvet Goldmine, Garden State, Singles, Reality Bites, Blade 1 and 2, Judgement Night, CB4, Pulp Fiction, Natural Born Killers, Lost Highway, Love and a 45, Empire Records, Rushmore, Royal Tenenbaums...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on February 27, 2016, 10:07:15 pm
can anyone find relaxer (az might be there too as he often attends these)
Behind The Scenes At The Tiny Desk in 360˚: Wilco   (https://youtu.be/R2osJjSNxTE)
D you really azaghal1981 would go see Wilco???????????????????????????????????
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on February 27, 2016, 10:52:47 pm
can anyone find relaxer (az might be there too as he often attends these)
Behind The Scenes At The Tiny Desk in 360˚: Wilco   (https://youtu.be/R2osJjSNxTE)
D you really azaghal1981 would go see Wilco???????????????????????????????????

He would if they were playing a hobo rock festival...you know he would...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on February 27, 2016, 10:53:23 pm
What happened to movie soundtracks?  They used to rule in the 90s and even a tiny bit into the 2000s, but now???

I am talking about soundtracks like Clerks, Trainspotting, the Crow, Spawn, Demon Knight, High Fidelity, Velvet Goldmine, Garden State, Singles, Reality Bites, Blade 1 and 2, Judgement Night, CB4, Pulp Fiction, Natural Born Killers, Lost Highway, Love and a 45, Empire Records, Rushmore, Royal Tenenbaums...

Natural Born Killers is the best soundtrack ever... as you know Trent Reznor created it...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 27, 2016, 11:00:24 pm
Add Cruel Intentions to that list.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on February 27, 2016, 11:00:50 pm
NBK had (I skipped a few tracks here):

Leonard Cohen ? "Waiting for the Miracle" (My introduction to Leonard Cohen)
L7 ? "Shitlist" (my introduction to L7)
Patti Smith ? "Rock N Roll ____" (Flood Remix) (my introduction to Patti)
Cowboy Junkies ? "Sweet Jane" (Great song.   I love the dialogue from the movie)
Bob Dylan ? "You Belong to Me"  One of the only Dylan songs that I like (though probably because of   this movie)
Nine Inch Nails ? "Burn" (great song)
Patsy Cline ? "Back in Baby's Arms" (not my thing but good song)
Nine Inch Nails ? "Something I Can Never Have" (Edited And Extended) (Another great nin song)
Juliette Lewis ? "Born Bad"
Dr. Dre ? "The Day the ____ Took Over" (good Dre track.  awesome use of it in the movie)
Lard ? "Forkboy" (awesomeness)
Nine Inch Nails ? "A Warm Place"
Leonard Cohen ? "The Future" (Again, my introduction to Leonard Cohen)
Tha Dogg Pound ? "What Would U Do?" (straight up dope ass 90s west coast flavor)

To you it might be whatever, I do not know, but to me, the soundtrack and movie, were very influential.   
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on February 27, 2016, 11:02:46 pm
Also, Kids soundtrack.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on February 27, 2016, 11:51:28 pm
NBK had (I skipped a few tracks here):

Leonard Cohen ? "Waiting for the Miracle" (My introduction to Leonard Cohen)
L7 ? "Shitlist" (my introduction to L7)
Patti Smith ? "Rock N Roll ____" (Flood Remix) (my introduction to Patti)
Cowboy Junkies ? "Sweet Jane" (Great song.   I love the dialogue from the movie)
Bob Dylan ? "You Belong to Me"  One of the only Dylan songs that I like (though probably because of   this movie)
Nine Inch Nails ? "Burn" (great song)
Patsy Cline ? "Back in Baby's Arms" (not my thing but good song)
Nine Inch Nails ? "Something I Can Never Have" (Edited And Extended) (Another great nin song)
Juliette Lewis ? "Born Bad"
Dr. Dre ? "The Day the ____ Took Over" (good Dre track.  awesome use of it in the movie)
Lard ? "Forkboy" (awesomeness)
Nine Inch Nails ? "A Warm Place"
Leonard Cohen ? "The Future" (Again, my introduction to Leonard Cohen)
Tha Dogg Pound ? "What Would U Do?" (straight up dope ass 90s west coast flavor)

To you it might be whatever, I do not know, but to me, the soundtrack and movie, were very influential.   

huh? I meant what I wrote dude.. I was being straight up witcha...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on February 27, 2016, 11:52:33 pm
Airheads. The Basketball Diaries.... So what happened with soundtracks?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on February 27, 2016, 11:54:55 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbG7TLJXIAA4Nf-.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: bob72 on February 28, 2016, 01:26:58 am
Lard ? "Forkboy" (awesomeness).   
one of Al's best side projects only to be rivaled by 1000 Homo Djs and Pailhead

L7 ? "Shitlist"
my favorite L7 moment it's their portrayal of the band "Camel Lips" in Serial Mom
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on February 28, 2016, 02:21:24 am
24 Hour Party People. 
 1. Anarchy in the UK - Sex Pistols
  2. 24 Hour Party People - Happy Mondays
  3. Transmission - Joy Division
  4. Ever Fallen In Love - The Buzzcocks
  5. Janie Jones - The Clash
  6. New Dawn Fades (Live) - New Order feat. Moby, Billy Corgan, John Frusciante
  7. Atmosphere - Joy Division
  8. Otis - Duritti Column
  9. Voodoo Ray - A Guy Called Gerald
  10. Temptation - New Order
  11. Loose Fit - Happy Mondays
  12. Pacific State - 808 State
  13. Blue Monday - New Order
  14. Move Your Body - Marshall Jefferson
  15. She's Lost Control - Joy Division
  16. Hallelujah (Club Mix) - Happy Mondays
  17. Here To Stay - New Order
  18. Love Will Tear Us Apart - Joy Division
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on February 28, 2016, 12:05:38 pm
Airheads. The Basketball Diaries.... So what happened with soundtracks?

Napster, etc. Soundtrack albums are expensive to make, so they need to sell a lot of copies to at least break even.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on February 28, 2016, 01:19:14 pm
I know... There are a lot of factors.  I was more rhetorically lamenting the loss of that medium.    
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on February 28, 2016, 09:37:06 pm
How did I forget Brainscan???

1.     Grease Box - Tad
2.   Under My Skin - Dandelion
3.   Shapes - Alcohol Funnycar
4.   Welcome to this World - Primus
5.   Freak Now - Old
6.   Make it Now - Mudhoney
7.   Leave Me Alone - Butthole Surfers
8.   Triad - Pitchshifter
9.   Thunder Kiss '65 - White Zombie
10.   Riverboat - Stuttering John
11.   Main Title - George S. Clinton

These were such a good way for a young me to hear a lot of bands for cheap during that era. 

I also would use CMJ magazine/CD to find new bands, and BMG/Columbia House to buy different things I would read about or that would sound cool (my cousin would notoriously order random stuff off of Columbia House based on artwork and band name, like the Pork Soda album by Primus).  We live in different times for sure. 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on February 29, 2016, 01:21:28 am
Lard ? "Forkboy" (awesomeness).   
one of Al's best side projects only to be rivaled by 1000 Homo Djs and Pailhead
For sure!  His new one sounds pretty dope as well, it is called Surgical Meth Machine.
http://loudwire.com/al-jourgensen-surgical-meth-machine-tragic-alert/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on February 29, 2016, 01:23:21 am
Lard ? "Forkboy" (awesomeness).   

one of Al's best side projects only to be rivaled by 1000 Homo Djs and Pailhead


For sure!  His new one sounds pretty dope as well, it is called Surgical Meth Machine
http://loudwire.com/al-jourgensen-surgical-meth-machine-tragic-alert

Quote
volatile outfit consisting of just Uncle Al and longtime engineer Sam D?Ambruoso.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on February 29, 2016, 11:38:22 am
if we're going to go down movie soundtrack memory lane...

Hackers - Soundtrack
Release date: June 18, 1995
Movie: Hackers
Label: Edel America Records

Original Bedroom Rockers - Kruder & Dorfmeister
Cowgirl - Underworld
Voodoo People - The Prodigy
Open Up - Leftfield
Phoebus Apollo - Carl Cox
The Joker - Josh G. Abrahams
Halcyon & On & On - Orbital
Communicate (Headquake Hazy Cloud mix) - Plastico
One Love - The Prodigy
Connected - Stereo MCs
Eyes, Lips, Body (Mekon vocal mix) - Ramshackle
Good Grief - Urban Dance Squad
Richest Junkie Still Alive (Cherry Valley mix) - Machines of Loving Grace
Heaven Knows - Squeeze
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 29, 2016, 01:02:48 pm
can't believe people would pay $90 to see just these two at the warner
(http://s1.ticketm.net/tm/en-us/dbimages/206558a.jpg)
by far the 3rd and 4th least talented people in the band
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: analogfossa on February 29, 2016, 03:02:25 pm
Apparently Iggy is a nude model now. Imagine being the lady right in front of his grundel.
http://pitchfork.com/news/63862-iggy-pop-poses-nude-for-life-drawing-class-will-be-subject-of-brooklyn-museum-show/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: bob72 on March 02, 2016, 11:25:32 am
OMG THE WORLD IS COMING TO AN END!

http://www.spin.com/2016/03/dave-grohl-solo-foo-fighters-taylor-hawkins-breakup-rumors-announcement-feud/?utm_source=spinfacebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=spinfacebook
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on March 02, 2016, 11:31:16 am
OMG THE WORLD IS COMING TO AN END!

http://www.spin.com/2016/03/dave-grohl-solo-foo-fighters-taylor-hawkins-breakup-rumors-announcement-feud/?utm_source=spinfacebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=spinfacebook

With plans for a reunion tour already in the works for the summer of 2018!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on March 02, 2016, 11:32:55 am
An oldies act called "The Reagan Years". Fuck that shit.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on March 02, 2016, 11:51:27 am
Kylie Jenner vs. Kylie Minogue in epic Kylie trademark battle (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/03/02/kylie-jenner-vs-kylie-minogue-in-epic-kylie-trademark-battle/?hpid=hp_no-name_morning-mix-story-c%3Ahomepage%2Fstory)

Bet I can guess Kosmo's team.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on March 02, 2016, 11:52:06 am
Foo Fighters suck, so bad.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on March 02, 2016, 11:53:19 am
Foo Fighters suck, so bad.

brilliant comment..
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on March 02, 2016, 11:54:55 am
Just my opinion. 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on March 02, 2016, 11:57:06 am
/

interesting.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on March 02, 2016, 11:57:42 am
TYBG
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: bob72 on March 02, 2016, 12:10:35 pm
Foo Fighters suck, so bad.
that was kind of my point
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on March 02, 2016, 12:11:29 pm
TYBG

What does They Might Be Giants have to do with any of this?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on March 02, 2016, 12:13:23 pm
Foo Fighters suck, so bad.
that was kind of my point
I am agreeing with you.  Foo Fighters have always been terrible.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: bob72 on March 02, 2016, 12:17:38 pm
Foo Fighters suck, so bad.
that was kind of my point
I am agreeing with you.  Foo Fighters have always been terrible.
what I don't get is isn't Foo Fighters already Dave's solo project? I mean when he say's "Taylor, suck my dick" he's pretty much gets down on his knees
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 02, 2016, 12:38:50 pm
almost onionesque

http://www.cnet.com/news/deadmau5-rats-out-kanye-over-pirate-bay-gaffe/

It might be time to start a Kickstarter for Kanye West. That's the call from Deadmau5 (aka music producer and DJ Joel Thomas Zimmerman) after he spotted what looked like Kanye's attempt to download music editing software from online file-sharing site The Pirate Bay.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 03, 2016, 11:59:24 am
OMG THE WORLD IS COMING TO AN END!

http://www.spin.com/2016/03/dave-grohl-solo-foo-fighters-taylor-hawkins-breakup-rumors-announcement-feud/?utm_source=spinfacebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=spinfacebook

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcmCAc_UAAAojzw.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on March 03, 2016, 02:20:05 pm
some people just hate success... if Grohl was playing hobo rock shows Killsaly would be getting the vapors about the Foo Fighters..
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on March 03, 2016, 02:33:28 pm
some people just hate success... if Grohl was playing hobo rock shows Killsaly would be getting the vapors about the Foo Fighters..

lol
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on March 03, 2016, 02:51:50 pm
yawn
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: bob72 on March 03, 2016, 04:55:34 pm
what I find amusing is how the media panicked about it

Our president could have been assassinated yesterday and the Foo breakup would have been bigger news
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: analogfossa on March 07, 2016, 02:29:39 pm
http://pagesix.com/2016/03/07/eagles-co-founder-randy-meisners-wife-shot-dead/?_ga=1.14062327.1370377988.1457228068
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on March 08, 2016, 07:28:20 pm
(http://dangerousminds.net/content/uploads/images/massiveattack_2093847y12.jpg)

Remember: ALL albums are actually Aerosmith?s ?Sweet Emotion?  (http://dangerousminds.net/comments/remember_all_albums_are_actually_aerosmiths_sweet_emotion)

(http://dangerousminds.net/content/uploads/images/bigblack_023984234.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on March 09, 2016, 10:23:58 pm
Website called Hypebot lives up to its name:

Yesterday Was Most Important Single Day For Direct To Fan Music Since Launches Of CDBaby, Tunecore (http://www.hypebot.com/hypebot/2016/03/yesterday-was-biggest-single-day-for-direct-to-fan-music-since-launch-of-cdbaby-tunecore.html)

I've written about the effects and promise of the digital revolution on musicians and the music industry for almost a decade. But yesterday, separate announcements from Pandora, PledgeMusic and Bandsintown combined to make it the most memorable day in independent music since the launches of CD Baby and Tunecore.

Everything changed for indie musicians the day that Derek Sivers launched CDBaby and empowered them to easily sell music on the web. A similar seismic shift happened when Tunecore launched, eliminating the gatekeepers and enabling quick, easy and affordable digital distribution for any artist on digital music services around the world.

Yesterday felt that important. All on one day:

? Pandora announced AMPcast, a mobile app that allows artists to send free audio messages to their fans among Pandora's 80 million active listeners as they listen. (more)

? Bandsintown added the ability for artists to send free custom messages to their fans amoung the 23 million concertgoers who use the Bandsintown app (more)

? PledgeMusic, already a go-to fan monetization tool for tens of thousands of artists and labels,  acquired Noisetrade, the single most effective fan acquisition tool I've ever tested, and Set.fm, a promising startup that enables easy recording and instant monetization of live shows.


WWWOOOOoooooooooooooozzzzzz....
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: bob72 on March 10, 2016, 12:15:22 am
Did this get posted yet? Dr. Know go fund me https://www.gofundme.com/drknowbadbrains
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on March 15, 2016, 11:16:06 pm
Did this get posted yet? Dr. Know go fund me https://www.gofundme.com/drknowbadbrains

to unfortunately pile on:

Health Fund for HR (Paul Hudson)
https://www.gofundme.com/r4ua4wng

sucks.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: bob72 on March 18, 2016, 05:42:33 pm
This guy's nickname is "thunder thumbs" lol

Bad ass bass https://www.facebook.com/guitarloves1/videos/262827057382392/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on March 18, 2016, 08:15:00 pm
This Washington Post writer doesn't know who PJ Harvey or Fugazi are.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/i-gave-a-famous-rock-star-a-windshield-tour-of-dc--and-didnt-know-who-she-was/2016/03/18/8124ab28-e488-11e5-bc08-3e03a5b41910_story.html?hpid=hp_local-news_pgharvey-1030am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory



And that's okay. He doesn't claim to have any extended or special knowledge about music of any kind.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on March 19, 2016, 09:50:09 am
Huh. When I was  growing up, most of the adults in my life either worked or volunteered at the Community of Hope as it was just getting off the ground.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: bob72 on March 19, 2016, 08:03:32 pm
Will someone please explain the appeal of Kanye West? I don't get it.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on March 22, 2016, 01:36:38 pm
The Art of Organized Noize debuts on Netflix today.
https://www.facebook.com/OrganizedNoizeDF/videos/1185234591487078/

Quote
Pioneers of Atlanta's music movement and the producers of phenomenal hits for Outkast, Goodie Mob, TLC, En Vogue, Curtis Mayfield, Eric Clapton and more this documentary tells the story of Organized Noize.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on March 23, 2016, 10:07:47 pm
http://pitchfork.com/thepitch/1069-new-orders-gillian-gilbert-on-putting-motherhood-ahead-of-music/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on March 24, 2016, 05:42:19 pm
Axl Rose to front ACDC?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Unsanity on March 25, 2016, 06:14:50 am
Axl Rose to front ACDC?

hahaha gross!

So, Jim Ward has been fired (or quit) At The Drive-In just ahead of the reunion tour and was replaced by Keeley Davis from Jim Ward's other band Sparta. Sheesh.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on March 27, 2016, 10:56:55 am
Buzzfeed quiz: What Percent Music Snob Are You? (http://www.buzzfeed.com/perpetua/what-percent-music-snob-are-you#.un6EBZZm8)

Warning: the questions seem to go on forever....
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: bob72 on March 27, 2016, 11:24:47 am
Buzzfeed quiz: What Percent Music Snob Are You? (http://www.buzzfeed.com/perpetua/what-percent-music-snob-are-you#.un6EBZZm8)

Warning: the questions seem to go on forever....
apparently I know very little about music
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on March 27, 2016, 04:49:52 pm
70% snob
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on March 27, 2016, 05:38:36 pm
wow..I got 70% too....

I was sure I'd do "better"
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on March 27, 2016, 05:42:43 pm
You Got: 10% Music SnobYou know very little about music.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: chancegardener on March 27, 2016, 07:19:07 pm
70%. "Music snob by most standards but thankfully you're not a total dick"  Sounds about right.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 27, 2016, 07:26:57 pm
I got bored by the first three questions and stopped the quiz...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on March 27, 2016, 08:25:55 pm
I got bored by the first three questions and stopped the quiz...

You scored 100%  ;D
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: dyecraig on March 27, 2016, 11:56:13 pm
only 70% - disappointing.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on March 28, 2016, 08:14:44 am
I take issue with the methodology...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on March 28, 2016, 08:23:45 am
only 70% - disappointing.

It sounds like you were hoping for a higher score? That's funny, I was hoping for a low score.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: walk,on,by on March 28, 2016, 01:17:44 pm
http://www.tmz.com/2016/03/28/axl-rose-ac-dc-in-studio/

gurl . . . I know, tmz, but . . . gurrl.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on March 28, 2016, 01:56:13 pm
damn...its happening. where is that ron paul GIF?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 29, 2016, 08:59:20 pm
http://www.pride.com/music/2016/3/28/16-reasons-why-kacey-musgraves-every-gay-mans-spirit-animal

16 Reasons Why Kacey Musgraves Is Every Gay Man?s Spirit Animal

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: bob72 on March 30, 2016, 08:42:04 am
I was baffled by the hype as well considering...

http://www.alternativenation.net/before-the-rolling-stones-audioslave-rocked-cuba/

Quote
Don?t get me wrong, I have enormous respect for the Stones. Their music is undeniable and will forever be legendary. But what Audioslave did almost 11 years ago should not be overlooked.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on March 30, 2016, 12:48:46 pm
Coming, the collapse of radio?s iHeartMedia (http://www.medialifemagazine.com/coming-the-collapse-of-radios-iheartmedia/)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 30, 2016, 01:13:16 pm
Coming Kickstarters to buy radio stations ;)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: walk,on,by on April 08, 2016, 10:59:25 am
biggest influence on music, in our generation, meaning from 1970 to today?  I have to think, most people would say david bowie, but I wonder if anyone could match him or come close, like Michael Jackson or bruce springteen?  I am sure some people might throw out someone, who others would think is dumb, like stevie wonder, stevie ray Vaughn, kurt cobain, ozzy, david byrne, zamfir.

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 08, 2016, 04:35:34 pm
how could you leave Ace Frehley off that list!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 08, 2016, 05:06:50 pm

 update from Houndmouth:

This is not the easiest news to share, but Katie Toupin is parting ways with Houndmouth. This is an amicable split, and Katie plans to pursue other opportunities.

We (Matt, Shane, and Zak) wish Katie the absolute best in all her future endeavors and want to thank her for the years we spent together as bandmates and, more importantly, friends. When we all first met as teenagers, we never dreamed that music would bring the four of us together and take us as far as it has. It?s been a long journey, and the time has come for our paths to split. We encourage everyone reading this to continue to support her.

FROM KATIE: I am incredibly thankful for all of our fans. Your relentless support has meant the world. We have been through so much together as a band, and none of it would have happened without the fans. I want to wish Houndmouth continued success. I would also like to ask the fans to continue to support me, along with the boys, as we go our separate ways
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: walk,on,by on April 10, 2016, 12:55:04 pm
Thank you, Bruce.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on April 11, 2016, 09:05:57 am

 update from Houndmouth:

This is not the easiest news to share, but Katie Toupin is parting ways with Houndmouth. This is an amicable split, and Katie plans to pursue other opportunities.

We (Matt, Shane, and Zak) wish Katie the absolute best in all her future endeavors and want to thank her for the years we spent together as bandmates and, more importantly, friends. When we all first met as teenagers, we never dreamed that music would bring the four of us together and take us as far as it has. It?s been a long journey, and the time has come for our paths to split. We encourage everyone reading this to continue to support her.

FROM KATIE: I am incredibly thankful for all of our fans. Your relentless support has meant the world. We have been through so much together as a band, and none of it would have happened without the fans. I want to wish Houndmouth continued success. I would also like to ask the fans to continue to support me, along with the boys, as we go our separate ways




(http://sd.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk/i-w600/hey-now-you-re-an-all-star.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 12, 2016, 03:03:00 pm
Stairway to Heaven riff stolen judge says....going to trial (http://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/apr/12/stairway-to-heavens-opening-chords-may-have-been-stolen-judge-says?CMP=share_btn_fb)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 13, 2016, 04:07:34 pm
The Black Keys Say They Regret Inducting Steve Miller Into Rock Hall of Fame (http://pitchfork.com/news/64779-the-black-keys-say-they-regret-inducting-steve-miller-into-rock-hall-of-fame/)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on April 13, 2016, 04:43:47 pm
The Black Keys Say They Regret Inducting Steve Miller Into Rock Hall of Fame (http://pitchfork.com/news/64779-the-black-keys-say-they-regret-inducting-steve-miller-into-rock-hall-of-fame/)

I was sad to read this earlier... after reading it hard not to conclude Miller is not a nice man.... although I'm not sure why Auerbach is so shocked Miller didn't know who they were.. I mean Steve Miller played with the greats.. his band even backed Chuck Berry (there's a record out I have of this performanc... a guy like Miller when it comes to blues rock is going to think the Black Keys are a derivative load of crap... he's going to compare them to Muddy Waters and Howlin' Wolf etc....if he even bothers to listen to them..although if I was accepting an award and so and so was going to induct me I would want to know something about them! So yeah miller seems like not a nice guy.. the RRHOF should be careful about who they pick to do the induction speeches...it shoudln't just be someone to drive ratings or make them hip with the youngsters..(read middle aged)

Still, if Miller really feels that way he should have said he wasn't accepting honor and left it at that... but he probably thought it would raise his profile and lead to higher sales for his tours every summer...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 13, 2016, 06:05:57 pm
http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/rock-stars/steve-miller-net-worth/
has him at $40 million....so he's not doing too bad
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on April 13, 2016, 06:06:08 pm
This is the joker toker dude right?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 13, 2016, 06:06:57 pm
get's his lovin' on the run
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: walk,on,by on April 13, 2016, 06:08:59 pm
I thought what he said was funny, and good lord I smiled when he told some publicist, who yelled wrap it up, to basically fuck off, and steve would wrap him up.  go, steve.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 20, 2016, 03:04:25 pm
funny how this thread ends up on the 3rd page...

so found this little gem
http://audiotree.tv/session/lucy-dacus/ (http://audiotree.tv/session/lucy-dacus/)

6 song session by Lucy Dacus recorded 3/28 at audiotree.tv
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: walk,on,by on April 25, 2016, 12:11:38 am
Damn, beyonce . . . Damn.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 25, 2016, 11:55:18 am
Damn, beyonce . . . Damn.
I feel the same way...but maybe we are thinking differently
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on April 26, 2016, 01:36:06 am
Damn, beyonce . . . Damn.
I feel the same way...but maybe we are thinking differently
https://www.facebook.com/AlexanderEmerickJones/videos/10154130352338459/

http://blackbag.gawker.com/alex-jones-beyonces-lemonade-was-funded-by-the-cia-to-1772977685

http://www.infowars.com/beyonce-invokes-urban-terrorism-in-new-video/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on May 02, 2016, 08:58:49 pm
lemonade stand (http://lemonademusicology.tumblr.com/)

Beyoncé Musicology
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on May 04, 2016, 04:54:24 pm
Beyoncé?s Lemonade (http://www.slj.com/2016/05/resources/beyonces-lemonade-gets-a-libguide/) get a LibGuide (http://libguides.mica.edu/lemonade)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on May 10, 2016, 08:38:46 am
Stone Roses lemon posters go back up in Manchester, speculation is a new single..
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on May 11, 2016, 10:44:43 am
The interesting thing about the fascination and fetishization of Mangum is that it?s hard to know where things escalated. It might seem weird considering music fans traditionally rely on major influencers to make things famous, but it makes more sense the longer you look. In The Aeroplane Over The Sea arrived in 1998, at the dawn of the Information Age, a time where ordinary men and women could reject the critical media and rely on each other to construct a legacy on their own terms.

http://www.avclub.com/article/how-did-neutral-milk-hotel-legend-get-so-out-hand-235206
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on May 11, 2016, 11:58:25 am
sounding a wee bit pedantic...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on May 12, 2016, 07:40:45 am
New Stone Roses to be released at 8pm UK time
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on May 12, 2016, 09:00:48 am
Or3pm EDT ;)  let the moaning start
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Bagley on May 12, 2016, 11:30:39 am
Anyone catch Dead & Co on Kimmel the other night?  They're sounding pretty good.  Bobby's looking somewhat healthier.  This lineup seems to be enjoying each other's company.

http://consequenceofsound.net/2016/05/dead-and-company-used-their-kimmel-appearance-to-stump-for-marijuana-legalization/





Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on May 12, 2016, 11:34:20 am
Somehow John Mayer always seems bored.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on May 12, 2016, 03:43:03 pm
Thumb's up on the new Stone Roses!  So great to hear squire playing guitar again.  It sounds like a cross between the first and second albums. 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 12, 2016, 07:24:21 pm
Thumb's up on the new Stone Roses!  So great to hear squire playing guitar again.  It sounds like a cross between the first and second albums. 
Excellent to hear that review
Now not lamenting that first listen as much...although the bar is pretty high for those blokes
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Relaxer on May 12, 2016, 07:31:04 pm
I so wanted to love the new Roses single but I think its borderline awful.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 12, 2016, 07:32:04 pm
I so wanted to love the new Roses single but I think its borderline awful.
dang that was quick
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on May 12, 2016, 07:57:01 pm
I wanted to hate it but I think its pretty good.... kind of an interesting Trump riposte: If we all join hands we'll build a wall


Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on May 13, 2016, 07:59:45 am
New super furry animals

https://youtu.be/fqXpWvEW3ZU
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Bagley on May 13, 2016, 10:04:17 am
Somehow John Mayer always seems bored.


Hmmm.  Did you watch the videos?  He seems intensely dialed in to me....
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on May 13, 2016, 10:07:57 am
Somehow John Mayer always seems bored.


Hmmm.  Did you watch the videos?  He seems intensely dialed in to me....

this is painful right here... but yea, i dig mayer in this band.

https://youtu.be/MoatcSVg_sE?t=2m11s
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Bagley on May 13, 2016, 10:17:33 am
As far as I'm concerned, Mayer should be responsible for lead vocals on all Jerry tunes
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on May 13, 2016, 10:22:59 am
As far as I'm concerned, Mayer should be responsible for lead vocals on all Jerry tunes

he sounds like an even worse version of Donna in that clip...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: bob72 on May 13, 2016, 11:11:47 am
I always thought Goo was just a name Kim Gordon made up cause it rhymes with stuff, but today I encountered a guy whose last name is Goo. I'm not sure if he wears green underwear though.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Relaxer on May 13, 2016, 11:18:41 am
As far as I'm concerned, Mayer should be responsible for lead vocals on all Jerry tunes

he sounds like an even worse version of Donna in that clip...

This was exactly my thought
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on May 13, 2016, 11:20:58 am
not good.. not good when you're getting compared to Donna.... even if they say you are better than Donna

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on May 18, 2016, 05:02:59 pm
cool interactive:

THE INSIDE STORY OF WHEN RUN‑DMC MET AEROSMITH AND CHANGED MUSIC FOREVER
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/lifestyle/walk-this-way/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on May 25, 2016, 12:44:10 pm

Gord Downie, the lead singer for the Canadian rock band The Tragically Hip, has terminal brain cancer.

Downie was diagnosed in December and "since then, obviously, he's endured a lot of difficult times," the band said on its website Tuesday morning.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on May 25, 2016, 01:28:37 pm

Gord Downie, the lead singer for the Canadian rock band The Tragically Hip, has terminal brain cancer.

Downie was diagnosed in December and "since then, obviously, he's endured a lot of difficult times," the band said on its website Tuesday morning.

http://www.thehip.com/news/an-important-message-from-the-band/

sad, sad news.  like a huge number of a canadians my age, these guys were a big part of my high-school and college days.  these guys a bona fide rockstars north of the border.

there is a chance i'll be back home in canuckistan when they perform in august.  will definitely be going to that show if i am.  hopefully they do more dates, come this way, and we can get a show.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: walk,on,by on May 25, 2016, 04:00:28 pm
the go gos on the billboard awards.  good, lord . . . what happened.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: vansmack on May 25, 2016, 04:03:09 pm
the go gos on the billboard awards.  good, lord . . . what happened.

Gravity.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on May 27, 2016, 12:37:39 pm

Gord Downie, the lead singer for the Canadian rock band The Tragically Hip, has terminal brain cancer.

Downie was diagnosed in December and "since then, obviously, he's endured a lot of difficult times," the band said on its website Tuesday morning.

http://www.thehip.com/news/an-important-message-from-the-band/

sad, sad news.  like a huge number of a canadians my age, these guys were a big part of my high-school and college days.  these guys a bona fide rockstars north of the border.

there is a chance i'll be back home in canuckistan when they perform in august.  will definitely be going to that show if i am.  hopefully they do more dates, come this way, and we can get a show.

cross-post:

Check out tonight's opening to Hockey Night in Canada, dedicated to Tragically Hip lead singer Gord Downie.
https://www.facebook.com/CompleteHockeyNews/videos/897019307091600/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on May 28, 2016, 10:52:06 am
(https://external-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/safe_image.php?d=AQB2NJs5w-1ZLDqw&w=300&h=300&url=https%3A%2F%2Fs3.amazonaws.com%2Fmetvnetwork%2F3Djsx-1464206888-4230-list_items-yacht_chriscross.jpg)

Spot-on listicle: These 20 yacht rock jams will send you sailing (http://www.metv.com/lists/these-20-yacht-rock-jams-will-send-you-sailing)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: walk,on,by on May 30, 2016, 09:24:39 am
I love Spotify for most reasons except for this. They have a workout section where you can choose different types of workout music for the kind of workout you want to do, whether it's beast mode or chill or fast paced or hardcore or light day or whatever the topic is for the selection of songs they'll give you for your work out. The only problem is, that every single fucking one of them is 100% shitty rap music. According to Spotify, we're only allowed to work out to shitty rap music.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on May 30, 2016, 10:28:06 am
that is weird/. I always think techno is the best workout music..
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on May 30, 2016, 12:09:11 pm
Are you using Techno as a banner term for all electronic music, or do you mean techno, the genre?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on June 08, 2016, 12:42:18 pm
(https://scontent.fphl2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/13403302_1005689052861290_7497233743284258742_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: moeszyslak on June 08, 2016, 03:18:11 pm
(https://scontent.fphl2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/13403302_1005689052861290_7497233743284258742_o.jpg)

Aaahahaha!  I think the club would benefit from a Surprise at the club! with Gucci Mane 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on June 08, 2016, 07:47:49 pm
I'm on a major reggae kick.. even bought 2 books about reggae
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on June 08, 2016, 09:19:17 pm
WTF is books.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: evilizac on June 09, 2016, 10:20:56 am
I really enjoyed the Marley documentary from a few years ago.
Also, Rockers is great fun and a cool look into a semi-fictional world of the late 70s reggae scene.
Made in Jamaica is good as well for a more modern view of Jamaican music.
Not a fan of the The Harder They Come film, but dig the soundtrack.
If you can still find them online, Mikey Dread's Dread at the Control podcasts were really cool. Made me extra sad when he kicked it.

Reggae is definitely a genre that can lead one down a rabbit hole of culture and music... Ended up in a roots reggae band for a couple years and it took over my life, but in the end I guess I was just an overenthusiastic fan.   
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on June 09, 2016, 06:16:30 pm
(https://scontent.fphl2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13427795_10154311839502578_8890306207663651212_n.jpg?oh=094c85b1b3f7b16dacf6809a94b364b9&oe=5805E493)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on June 11, 2016, 06:35:26 am
Second Stone Roses track much more inline with what one would expect from them...  more dance floor groovy and  less football stadium singalong

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCk34IVVgcc
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on June 17, 2016, 02:48:15 pm
regarding the tragically hip:

hopefully they do more dates, come this way, and we can get a show.

definitely won't be coming to the US or any other country.  it's looking like the current tour will be it.  the final show of the tour in their hometown is being billed as their last ever.  if they were to add dates, they would be in canada (the atlantic provinces didn't get any shows...).  there has been some concern in the media about gord's health and his ability/stamina to complete the tour.

that final concert on August 20 will be live broadcast : "The Kingston show will begin at 8:30 p.m. ET, and will be broadcast and streamed ? commercial free ? on CBC Television, CBC Radio One, CBC Radio 2, cbcmusic.ca and CBC's YouTube channels."  i expect that viewership in canada will be just a hair below the hockey gold-medal game in vancouver.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on June 22, 2016, 10:34:24 am
It appears RVA-and-Sidehatch favorite Lucy Dacus has signed with Matador.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 22, 2016, 10:37:33 am
It appears RVA-and-Sidehatch favorite Lucy Dacus has signed with Matador.
NICE!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on July 06, 2016, 11:41:19 pm
I reckon if you're a woman, it's time to start avoiding Swedish music festivals.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/04/swedish-music-festivals-hit-by-reports-of-rapes-by-migrants/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on July 06, 2016, 11:45:16 pm
^hey gang if we ignore him maybe he'll stop!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on July 07, 2016, 08:28:57 am
^hey gang if we ignore him maybe he'll stop!

That's the same attitude that some Europeans seem to have regarding the rapey-gropey culture they've imported!

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/214479
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 08, 2016, 04:35:43 pm
(http://www.trbimg.com/img-57800c4f/turbine/la-1468009787-snap-photo/750/750x422)
Local Natives play root top concert in Silver lake (http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/music/la-et-ms-local-natives-20160707-snap-story.html)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on July 08, 2016, 06:16:23 pm
guitarist Nick McCarthy  leaves Franz Ferdinand ahead of new album
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on July 08, 2016, 06:18:41 pm
guitarist Nick McCarthy  leaves Franz Ferdinand ahead of new album

I saw this! I can't really imagine Franz Ferdinand without him.. their signature guitar sound would be gone...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: bob72 on July 08, 2016, 06:50:04 pm
Brian Baker has been very entertaining today
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 20, 2016, 12:04:50 pm
Pizza Underground to release a record with children's choir and symphony orchestra.

http://www.avclub.com/article/macaulay-culkins-terrible-pizza-themed-band-workin-239804

This really is one of the defining acts of our generation.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on July 20, 2016, 12:25:18 pm
P.U. is a notch below Ween.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 20, 2016, 12:34:22 pm
P.U. is a notch below Ween.
waitaminute!
ween is the musical incarnation of St Sarah, Zappa and Thin Lizzy
not some schlock rock band with about zero talent or originality  and the only reason anyone knows about them is Caulkin was in the band
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 20, 2016, 12:35:23 pm
P.U. is a notch below Ween.
waitaminute!
ween is the musical incarnation of St Sarah, Zappa and Thin Lizzy
not some schlock rock band with about zero talent or originality  and the only reason anyone knows about them is Caulkin was in the band
I seem to recall you being enraptured at the Pizzas first Black Cat show.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 20, 2016, 12:37:34 pm
P.U. is a notch below Ween.
waitaminute!
ween is the musical incarnation of St Sarah, Zappa and Thin Lizzy
not some schlock rock band with about zero talent or originality  and the only reason anyone knows about them is Caulkin was in the band
I seem to recall you being enraptured at the Pizzas first Black Cat show.
I love a good trainwreck like the next guy
was not their for musical appreciation
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: walk,on,by on July 20, 2016, 03:11:17 pm
I thought of pizza underground while jul,ian was away, and the instantly thought of him.  strange how a band, is relatable to a created character on a rock club forum.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 20, 2016, 03:21:47 pm
I thought of pizza underground while jul,ian was away, and the instantly thought of him.  strange how a band, is relatable to a created character on a rock club forum.
For the record, the Pizza Underground guys are huge fans of my work on here. They love The America.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on July 21, 2016, 04:15:52 pm
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13332861_1112976205442415_5967853225890419736_n.jpg?oh=c499616f07441ca3134ccba8c022457b&oe=58329B5A)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 29, 2016, 12:07:24 pm
^I don't know if I consider subjecting your pet to Steely Dan as humane



they posted Lucy Dacus's Tiny Desk show (http://n.pr/2ahDmm4)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on July 29, 2016, 02:48:39 pm
Off the Wall or Thriller?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 29, 2016, 02:50:14 pm
OTW ....no further debate needed
Thirller has a few moments, but honestly it's kinda cheezy and dated
OTW is just brilliant
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on July 29, 2016, 02:52:09 pm
yes yes.. I Can see that.. I'm listening to Off the Wall right now... Michael is working day and night at the moment...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on August 01, 2016, 09:37:16 am
the knob-tweakers will get this one:

(http://i.imgur.com/zbghbsT.gif)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Relaxer on August 01, 2016, 11:17:46 am
Trying to decide if I should keep or sell my Drive Like Jehu tickets next week. Anyone have any advice? Making myself available will be extremely difficult, plus I have a show (Everything Everything) on Monday night, so I think I have to dump them.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 01, 2016, 11:26:40 am
Trying to decide if I should keep or sell my Drive Like Jehu tickets next week. Anyone have any advice? Making myself available will be extremely difficult, plus I have a show (Everything Everything) on Monday night, so I think I have to dump them.
I will be attending and am willing to give you an autograph, if that influences your decision.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Relaxer on August 01, 2016, 11:35:40 am
Dang, you're really going?

I really want to go because I've heard their recent shows have been killer. But with my kid schedule, going to two shows in three days is next to impossible.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 01, 2016, 11:37:14 am
Dang, you're really going?
Yes, I'm really going. I have requested Drive Like Jehu approximately 10 times in the Hey Seth thread since they reunited.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on August 01, 2016, 11:47:44 am
Trying to decide if I should keep or sell my Drive Like Jehu tickets next week. Anyone have any advice? Making myself available will be extremely difficult, plus I have a show (Everything Everything) on Monday night, so I think I have to dump them.
I will be attending and am willing to give you an autograph, if that influences your decision.



did you say autograph?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 01, 2016, 11:50:55 am
Trying to decide if I should keep or sell my Drive Like Jehu tickets next week. Anyone have any advice? Making myself available will be extremely difficult, plus I have a show (Everything Everything) on Monday night, so I think I have to dump them.
I will be attending and am willing to give you an autograph, if that influences your decision.



did you say autograph?
I like to look out for The Family Jules.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on August 01, 2016, 01:50:55 pm
 :D
Too bad
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 01, 2016, 02:12:32 pm
Interesting read from Xiu Xiu's facebook page. Kind of weird he has to put that kind of prep time in to play his own songs acoustic. . .
Quote
I have some weird and gross news. After some debate, we decided to make this public so hopefully other bands don?t get cheated, ignored, then threatened.
Recently, I was asked to play a solo show in los angeles on june 11 by a promoter named
Jesse "Boredom" Torres who put on shows under Death By Boredom
https://www.facebook.com/deathbyboredumb/
i had not played a solo show in several years and told him that this would take a lot of work for me to rehearse and prepare.
because of the amount of work this would be i would need a decent fee. i asked for a guarantee of $1000. he agreed.
for this show i would need to practice 5 days a week, 3 hours a day for a month. that is 60 hours.
$1000 divided by 60 hours is $16.66 an hour. minimum wage on los angeles is $10.00 an hour.
not terrible, but certainly not amazing or excessive for the number of hours this would take.
after the show i ask Jesse to be paid.
he said i have $820 for you.
i told him to pay pal the rest right now please.
he said no.
i asked him to swear on his mothers grave to get it to me by the end of the week and that i would not have to chase him for it.
he agreed and said he of course would pay me the rest by the end of the week.
i did not hear from him so i called to check in. no answer. i text. no answer. i email. no answer.
i tried all these things 4 or 5 more times over the next couple of weeks. no answer. my attorney writes him a letter, still no reply.
he was clearly trying to sneak away and hope i would give up.
at this point it was not about the money (but i could use that remaining $180).
it was about being lied to, ignored and cheated. he could have just been honest and said, i don't have it, i am broke and i never will, i'm sorry.
but instead, he continued to ignore me completely.
angela from xiu xiu began asking around and found out that his not paying bands in a frequent behavior of his.
apparently he does this all the time.
so far this is just annoying and irritating. but nothing worse.
i decided to go to jesse's next show and talk to him in person. this was last friday night.
when i arrive at the show i tell him i'd like the rest of the money he owes me.
he starts shouting at me that we did not promote the show and that he does not have to pay me.
(we did promote the show on our sites like we do all our other shows, and also HE is the "promoter.")
he shouts he paid me $900 and that is enough. i said he was lying about the amount and then he shouted he paid us almost $900.
he said he did not pay the the other bands at all and i should be glad i got what i got. how this helps his case i am not sure?
then he shouted he spent $300 to promote the show. i asked where? then he shouted he paid $400 to promote the show. i asked where again and he shouted he spent $500 to promote the show.
things became even uglier.
he began to yell "FUCK YOU" to me over and over, shoved his middle finger an inch away from my face several times.
then ran up to me menacingly and threatened to hit me.
baffled that he is angry and wants to physically hurt me because he broke our agreement and tried to hide from his obligation, i told him as much. he replied again by yelling
"FUCK YOU JAMIE" and again got an inch from my face literally puffing his chest out with his fists balled.
the staff of non plus ultra, where the show was held, came up to calm the situation and kindly offered to pay me what i was owed. i thanked them for but declined as it was not their responsibility. to be clear, the people from non plus ultra had no idea that Jesse regularly did not pay bands up until now, and had nothing to do with this.
this not about the money but about being lied to, stolen from and in the end threatened physically.
if you are in a band, please consider not doing shows with death by boredom.
if you go to shows, please consider boycotting death by boredom.
if you run a show space please consider not doing business with death by boredom.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on August 01, 2016, 02:38:55 pm
That seems like a reasonable amount of preparation time.   He needed to adapt arrangements, practice, figure out instrumentation (the post said solo, I didn't see the word acoustic anywhere) and several other considerations.  If he composed something a certain way it is not like he is just going to pick up an acoustic guitar and magically make something awesome.  He said he rarely plays these kind of shows so it isn't like he was prepping this music for a full band.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on August 01, 2016, 02:46:32 pm
KIllsally when is your wedding? isn't it this summer?

Well congratulations... I dont' know the bride but I'm sure you'll be very happy.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on August 01, 2016, 03:12:04 pm
I am going to refrain from talking about my personal life on here. 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on August 01, 2016, 03:16:21 pm
I am going to refrain from talking about my personal life on here. 

damn...ok...well I dont' know what to say then since you won't share any details about your marriage so pick whichever one fits...:

1. Congrats man! SO happy for you! I hope you guys enjoy your eastern shore wedding....Where are you heading for the honeymoon? I must strongly advise against Mexico... the whole place is a shithole....spend the extra money and head to Polynesia... for a honeymoon you will remember and treasure...

or

2. damn man... what a bitch.. I can't believe she called it off.. you're better for it.. you're too young to marry man...play the field.. get some pussy.. don't marry the first woman that lets you get some action man.. that is a surefire recipe for an early divorce and nobody wants that... She did you a favor man...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on August 01, 2016, 03:35:46 pm
::)

I have zero interest in sharing details of my personal life on here. 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on August 01, 2016, 03:50:37 pm
so we agree... good..good
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on August 01, 2016, 04:00:39 pm
You are the one who brought it up. 

I was trying to talk about Xiu Xiu. 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on August 01, 2016, 04:23:23 pm
Kind of weird he has to put that kind of prep time in to play his own songs acoustic. . .

sounds entirely plausible.  could easily be longer depending on the type of solo show - voice + guitar only?  one-man laptop show?  remixes?  

another way of looking at it is that he needs to prepare 15+ songs in some new format.   could require re-recording parts to accompany him, editing existing tracks, spending time making the song work as a solo performance, etc.  4 hours per song doesn't seem that crazy.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on August 01, 2016, 04:34:01 pm
http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/xiu-xiu/2016/non-plus-ultra-los-angeles-ca-23fe7c7f.html
11 songs with two being brand new/untitled and one a cover.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 09, 2016, 09:21:23 am
Slowdive have a new record completed, slated for 2017 release (http://www.tinymixtapes.com/news/slowdive-have-completed-recording-their-first-album-over-20-years)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on August 15, 2016, 01:36:19 pm
The Cyrkle game

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/their-goal-meet-the-beatles-on-tour-in-1966-their-solution-impersonate-the-opening-act/2016/08/14/f00593e8-5820-11e6-9767-f6c947fd0cb8_story.html
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on August 15, 2016, 04:53:33 pm
Zoom in, zoom out, click everywhere. Read and listen.

http://www.musicmap.info/#
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: bob72 on August 15, 2016, 09:14:14 pm
Apparently John Lydon was hit with a bottle on stage at a show in Chile and finished the show all cut up



(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-QlI_cRrk404/V7H53n0oAvI/AAAAAAABa4o/zawxEqs8VJIMvq_swGQ8De7gmxPIyDrwgCLcB/s400/jl13934856_10157229095605361_2088063951278188476_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on August 15, 2016, 10:49:49 pm
Apparently John Lydon was hit with a bottle on stage at a show in Chile and finished the show all cut up



(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-QlI_cRrk404/V7H53n0oAvI/AAAAAAABa4o/zawxEqs8VJIMvq_swGQ8De7gmxPIyDrwgCLcB/s400/jl13934856_10157229095605361_2088063951278188476_n.jpg)

I'm more concerned that he's overweight and still smoking cigarettes and sporting such a cliche haricut at his advanced aged.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on August 15, 2016, 10:54:20 pm
Apparently John Lydon was hit with a bottle on stage at a show in Chile and finished the show all cut up



(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-QlI_cRrk404/V7H53n0oAvI/AAAAAAABa4o/zawxEqs8VJIMvq_swGQ8De7gmxPIyDrwgCLcB/s400/jl13934856_10157229095605361_2088063951278188476_n.jpg)

I'm more concerned that he's overweight and still smoking cigarettes and sporting such a cliche haricut at his advanced aged.

^concern trolling Exhibit A
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on August 15, 2016, 11:07:24 pm
The only disappointing part of that story was that it was only one bottle.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on August 15, 2016, 11:30:26 pm
Apparently John Lydon was hit with a bottle on stage at a show in Chile and finished the show all cut up



(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-QlI_cRrk404/V7H53n0oAvI/AAAAAAABa4o/zawxEqs8VJIMvq_swGQ8De7gmxPIyDrwgCLcB/s400/jl13934856_10157229095605361_2088063951278188476_n.jpg)

I'm more concerned that he's overweight and still smoking cigarettes and sporting such a cliche haricut at his advanced aged.

Zero. Fucks. Given.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: walk,on,by on August 16, 2016, 12:07:59 am
I was, going to post something witty, as the kids are saying nowadays . . . but wow, forum, wow.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: walk,on,by on August 19, 2016, 09:45:11 am
not sure how I feel about the new metallica, album.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on August 19, 2016, 11:16:41 am
I do not know about the album either, but I did not hate the new track. 

Edit: Maddow digs it too
https://twitter.com/maddow/status/766394333335519233
Quote
God bless the great @Metallica for the new perfect soundtrack for 2016 -- just in time.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on August 19, 2016, 11:28:59 am
I do not know about the album either, but I did not hate the new track. 

Edit: Maddow digs it too
https://twitter.com/maddow/status/766394333335519233
Quote
God bless the great @Metallica for the new perfect soundtrack for 2016 -- just in time.

and we should care about what Rachel Maddow thinks about music because????
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on August 19, 2016, 11:31:07 am
I care more about her opinion than yours. 

I thought it was interesting that she commented on the song, that is all. 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on August 19, 2016, 11:39:53 am
I care more about her opinion than yours. 

I thought it was interesting that she commented on the song, that is all. 

I think it's less important that it is her, than it is that there is a consensus.  She is, like each of you, a data point.  If only we had polls on the forum...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on August 19, 2016, 11:43:50 am
What do you think about the song?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on August 19, 2016, 11:52:34 am
Oh, I haven't listened yet.  I kinda like Metallica, but I'm having trouble getting excited about the news of new material.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: walk,on,by on August 19, 2016, 12:33:30 pm
radiohead's decks dark, is one of their most important new songs, that they have.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 23, 2016, 10:54:29 am
http://pitchfork.com/news/67731-american-football-announce-first-new-album-in-17-years-share-new-song-listen/

Consider this an x-post to Hey Seth too.

Wow.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: vansmack on August 23, 2016, 11:26:47 am
I got this from Hoya:

Liam Gallagher?s First Interview in 3 Years Is Everything You Want It to Be (http://pitchfork.com/news/67736-liam-gallaghers-first-interview-in-3-years-is-everything-you-want-it-to-be/)

Now I've got to go buy Q...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on August 23, 2016, 12:13:18 pm
http://consequenceofsound.net/2016/08/fox-news-calls-red-hot-chili-peppers-the-worst-band-on-the-planet/
Quote
Gutfield jumped in again to resume his slamming of the Peppers. ?The ape is better than Anthony Kiedis. By the way, the ape is 45, which is half the age of Anthony Kiedis. Red Hot Chili Peppers, poor man?s Faith No More, don?t ever forget it.?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: vansmack on August 23, 2016, 12:53:57 pm
Man.  And I thought I hated the RHCP....
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on August 23, 2016, 02:11:45 pm
Gutfeld -for Fox- has some edge.. he's had Lydon on his show...the dude from the Melvins etc...


I happen to love the new Chili Peppers record though....
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: killsaly on August 23, 2016, 02:43:37 pm
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/08/23/he-withered-away-for-7-years-doctors-didnt-realize-his-passion-was-killing-him

I think I will stick with playing guitar and keyboard.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: vansmack on September 12, 2016, 03:24:23 pm
All Mapped Out (http://popbitch.com/home/2016/08/14/all-mapped-out/)

It may not have set the charts alight when it was first released in 2003, but it?s entirely possible that Maps by New York art-punk outfit Yeah Yeah Yeahs has been the single most influential song of the 21st century so far. How? Let?s look?
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Post by: shemptiness on September 12, 2016, 03:32:46 pm
Gutfeld -for Fox- has some edge.. he's had Lydon on his show...the dude from the Melvins etc...


I happen to love the new Chili Peppers record though....

I really dislike the RHCP.  Haven't heard the album, but the new single is really good.  I hate myself for liking it.
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Post by: vansmack on September 21, 2016, 01:23:57 pm
Are The Specials still bringing it?

I saw them decades ago, and have been offered a ticket to Friday's show, but I'm leery.  Anyone want to weigh in?
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Post by: hutch on September 21, 2016, 01:37:35 pm
Are The Specials still bringing it?

I saw them decades ago, and have been offered a ticket to Friday's show, but I'm leery.  Anyone want to weigh in?

well the problem is that since the last tour a few years ago they have lost three or four members.. they are down to only three original members... Terry Hall sounded fabulous last time.... so its fun to hear him.... but I just can't consider them the Specials.. they're down to the bassist Horace Panter, Terry and Lynval Golding..... even Neville Staples their toaster is gone....John Bradbury the drummer died... Roddy Radiation was basically let go (probably he was bought out like Neville).....

so its kind of the Terry Hall show..

when i saw them a few years ago I loved it.. but when I heard they were coming around again I was like no go for me cause of all the losses...Sidehatch saw them last time too
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Post by: Space Freely on September 21, 2016, 01:43:56 pm
Are The Specials still bringing it?

I saw them decades ago, and have been offered a ticket to Friday's show, but I'm leery.  Anyone want to weigh in?

For me the question would be is the ticket FREE? A free ticket would usually beat a Netflix Friday night for me. Unless it was for a band that I disliked.
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Post by: hutch on September 21, 2016, 02:06:45 pm
nevermind


to me the heart of the Specials was Dammers so without him and so few members its more like a Terry Hall solo show...
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Post by: vansmack on September 21, 2016, 04:58:11 pm
Thank you both.

The pricepoint hasn't been determined, but I've been swamped at the office and have a busy weekend ahead, so it's more of an "is it worth my time?" sort of question.
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Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 22, 2016, 06:10:03 am
Well Steve Cradock (Ocean Colour Scene/Paul Weller, etc) is playing guitar with the Specials now.. and he's a heck of a guitar player...
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Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 22, 2016, 06:37:38 am
I thought they put on a fantastic set, but it is the Terry Hall show now
Dammers hasn't toured with them since 84
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Post by: grateful on September 27, 2016, 01:38:23 pm
http://pitchfork.com/features/lists-and-guides/9948-the-50-best-ambient-albums-of-all-time/?page=5
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Post by: hutch on September 27, 2016, 07:05:33 pm
wow.. they got two of my absolute favorites in the top 10!

eno at number one as should be with music for airports (my first son was born to this..)... and number 5 the KLF Chill Out which is just brilliant...


both desert island discs for me..

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Post by: bob72 on October 11, 2016, 03:09:41 pm
I am currently in line at Shake Shack waiting for my order standing next to Vernon Reid and Corey Glover

#starstruck
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Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 11, 2016, 03:12:44 pm
Corey Glover
He's my favorite African-American senator from New Jersey.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on October 11, 2016, 03:26:38 pm
Corey Glover
He's my favorite African-American senator from New Jersey.

Given that he's an overweight vegetarian, I bet you feel very conflicted about making him your favorite. I, however, have no such qualms.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 11, 2016, 03:37:56 pm
Corey Glover
He's my favorite African-American Senator from New Jersey.

Given that he's an overweight vegetarian, I bet you feel very conflicted about making him your favorite. I, however, have no such qualms.
To be fair, he's also my least favorite African-American Senator from New Jersey, too.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on October 11, 2016, 03:53:12 pm
I am currently in line at Shake Shack waiting for my order standing next to Vernon Reid and Corey Glover

#starstruck

I know you're a big Living Colour fan but stalking is not cool.......
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 12, 2016, 03:37:48 pm
The Richmond hipster scene has been rocked to its very core by the announcement by Miss Lucy Dacus that she is no longer identifying as "faggy" and is dating a dude in her band, and my Facebook News Feed will never be the same.

I acknowledge this post is, at best, tangentially musicological in nature.
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Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 12, 2016, 03:40:22 pm
which band member??
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 12, 2016, 03:40:53 pm
which band member??
Jacob.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on October 12, 2016, 05:22:02 pm
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/10/17/leonard-cohen-makes-it-darker
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: evilizac on October 13, 2016, 08:13:38 am
The Richmond hipster scene has been rocked to its very core by the announcement by Miss Lucy Dacus that she is no longer identifying as "faggy" and is dating a dude in her band, and my Facebook News Feed will never be the same.

I acknowledge this post is, at best, tangentially musicological in nature.

Uh oh... Let's hope she doesn't gain any relationship weight.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on October 13, 2016, 08:44:08 am
The Richmond hipster scene has been rocked to its very core by the announcement by Miss Lucy Dacus that she is no longer identifying as "faggy" and is dating a dude in her band, and my Facebook News Feed will never be the same.

I acknowledge this post is, at best, tangentially musicological in nature.

Uh oh... Let's hope she doesn't gain any relationship weight.

Why?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 13, 2016, 08:46:05 am
The Richmond hipster scene has been rocked to its very core by the announcement by Miss Lucy Dacus that she is no longer identifying as "faggy" and is dating a dude in her band, and my Facebook News Feed will never be the same.

I acknowledge this post is, at best, tangentially musicological in nature.

Uh oh... Let's hope she doesn't gain any relationship weight.
She's pretty chunky to begin with.
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Post by: sweetcell on October 13, 2016, 09:26:20 am
The Richmond hipster scene has been rocked to its very core by the announcement by Miss Lucy Dacus that she is no longer identifying as "faggy" and is dating a dude in her band, and my Facebook News Feed will never be the same.

I acknowledge this post is, at best, tangentially musicological in nature.

Uh oh... Let's hope she doesn't gain any relationship weight.
She's pretty chunky to begin with.

you're not doing yourself any favors with regards to casting off the image of being the board's Trump equivalent...

;D
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on October 13, 2016, 09:33:15 am
The Richmond hipster scene has been rocked to its very core by the announcement by Miss Lucy Dacus that she is no longer identifying as "faggy" and is dating a dude in her band, and my Facebook News Feed will never be the same.

I acknowledge this post is, at best, tangentially musicological in nature.

Uh oh... Let's hope she doesn't gain any relationship weight.
She's pretty chunky to begin with.

you're not doing yourself any favors with regards to casting off the image of being the board's Trump equivalent...

;D

If we're going to critique posts here, I'd give Juilan a pass. She *is* pretty chunky (as he simply stated), based upon online pictures. Not that there's anything wrong with that, imo.

Evilzac with his or her comment, on the other hand, is obviously implying that there is something wrong with it.

 ;)
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Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 13, 2016, 09:42:12 am
you're not doing yourself any favors with regards to casting off the image of being the board's Trump equivalent...

;D
I'm going to deport Hutch and make him pay for it.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: evilizac on October 13, 2016, 11:26:07 am
I have definitely gained my share, and my significant other's, share of relationship weight.
At the same time I wouldn't necessarily call her "chunky" but maybe that's just my own relationship weight talking. 
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Post by: sweetcell on October 13, 2016, 12:23:02 pm
I'm going to deport Hutch and make him pay for it.

i hate it when you make me agree with you.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on October 14, 2016, 12:07:37 pm
Cool article.

https://priceonomics.com/the-inventor-of-auto-tune/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: walkie,talkie on October 14, 2016, 04:23:27 pm
Is pearl jam, good?

I love them.  They put me in a happy place when I listen to them.  But music is subjective . . . so,
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Post by: Yada on October 14, 2016, 04:28:04 pm
Is pearl jam, good?

I love them.  They put me in a happy place when I listen to them.  But music is subjective . . . so,

other than sally's favorite group Alice in Chains, probably one of the best bands to come out of the Pac NW IMO.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 14, 2016, 04:30:11 pm
Pearl Jam is both a band I think has an unquestionably great discography and yet I NEVER EVER listen to them anymore and I don't really know why.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: bob72 on October 15, 2016, 12:39:06 pm
PJ has aged very well
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on October 15, 2016, 12:41:56 pm
Is pearl jam, good?

I love them.  They put me in a happy place when I listen to them.  But music is subjective . . . so,

I always thought the singer sounded like he needs to take a really huge dump.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on October 15, 2016, 11:17:58 pm
Is pearl jam, good?

I love them.  They put me in a happy place when I listen to them.  But music is subjective . . . so,

I always thought the singer sounded like he needs to take a really huge dump.

geez dude.. i'm eating my steak and ale pie for chrissakes
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on October 16, 2016, 05:22:15 pm
nobel hopefuls issue audiobooks of oeuvre (https://twitter.com/htmlgiant/status/786631029805060096)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuqsBhTUEAAAWiW.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuqsEr9VYAAQ77h.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuqsfUsVMAA1iuJ.jpg)
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Post by: hutch on October 16, 2016, 05:52:53 pm
oh that is good....


I think Salman Rushdie should be included....
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 16, 2016, 07:25:17 pm
Brilliant.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on October 17, 2016, 01:33:35 pm
maybe he won't accept his award... and make Julian happy?

http://pitchfork.com/news/69019-nobel-committee-says-bob-dylan-is-ignoring-them/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on October 17, 2016, 01:49:25 pm
The fancy gold medal comes with $1.4 million.  I mean, he's Bob Dylan and maybe he doesn't need it, but you don't walk away from $1 million no strings attached.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: walkie,talkie on October 17, 2016, 02:11:38 pm
oh, azealia banks.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on October 17, 2016, 02:12:26 pm
yeah..Bob does like money..that is for sure..
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Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 24, 2016, 11:04:03 am
Pitchfork's 50 Best Shoegaze Albums list (http://pitchfork.com/features/lists-and-guides/9966-the-50-best-shoegaze-albums-of-all-time/?mbid=social_facebook)

Loving these unexpected best shoegaze, ambient, etc lists they're dropping. Love seeing Ulrich Schnauss, Catherine Wheel, and Kitchens of Distinction -- all 3 of which I am making a point to listen to today -- getting some props (along with the obvious people in the top 10).
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Post by: hutch on October 24, 2016, 11:26:21 am
they missed Soda Stereo's Dynamo but of course if ain't sung in English forget about it... no matter how good it is...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on October 26, 2016, 12:01:14 pm
The 337 most despised songs.
http://www.dotmund.co.uk/2016/10/337-songs-that-changed-your-life.html
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on October 26, 2016, 12:56:33 pm
And the obligatory Metafilter commentary:
http://www.metafilter.com/163087/Liking-any-of-these-makes-you-a-monster-objectively-speaking
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: walkie,talkie on October 29, 2016, 09:42:13 am
just read this inter,esting article about phil Collins, the song, against all odds, and the academy awards performance of it, not by him.

poor, guy.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on October 29, 2016, 09:48:33 pm
just read this inter,esting article about phil Collins, the song, against all odds, and the academy awards performance of it, not by him.

poor, guy.

Why is this not in the Phil Collins thread???

I was listening to the 12" long mix of Mama.. what a song..talk about spooky...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: walkie,talkie on October 30, 2016, 01:18:30 am
I forgot there was one.

I tried, to think, but nothing happened.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: walkie,talkie on November 03, 2016, 10:32:19 pm
jesus, Mariah Carey

wow.  way, to show what you only care about in life.  and it ain't, self respect.
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Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 04, 2016, 09:34:53 am
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s526x395/14192519_10154683322734138_2890206806169590215_n.jpg?oh=9a860ea840f10ff4929810515d68b4cd&oe=589E63D9)

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on November 04, 2016, 01:09:42 pm
advice for the dude on the left: look like you belong.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 04, 2016, 04:40:11 pm
advice for the dude on the left: look like you belong.
I know...that kinda why I posted
but Frank is probably pulling in more than both of them

and Ian really has to stop with that stupid hand on chin pose
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on November 04, 2016, 04:47:22 pm
advice for the dude on the left: look like you belong.
But he doesn't belong. The other two aren't milquetoast Dad rock.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on November 04, 2016, 05:44:29 pm
advice for the dude on the left: look like you belong.
But he doesn't belong. The other two aren't milquetoast Dad rock.


oh I know... ;)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: challenged on November 05, 2016, 03:06:13 pm
advice for the dude on the left: look like you belong.
But he doesn't belong. The other two aren't milquetoast Dad rock.

In other news..., it's totally okay not to belong. He reveres them; they like him/tolerate him(?) Who knows? Who is to judge?

(http://static.stereogum.com/uploads/2012/02/white-stripes-simpsons.jpg)
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Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 06, 2016, 11:10:38 am
Are you trying to say that Frank Turner is the Millhouse of rock n roll :)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on November 06, 2016, 11:47:09 am
Are you trying to say that Frank Turner is the Millhouse of rock n roll :)
Thats not a terrible way to put it.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: challenged on November 06, 2016, 09:58:55 pm
Are you trying to say that Frank Turner is the Millhouse of rock n roll :)
Thats not a terrible way to put it.

I guess what I am trying to say is:
I enjoy frank turner's music, and particularly his live show, and there's weird timing with Josh's death, my personal life, Josh posting about Frank on facebook etc., me getting a free ticket to Frank's 2013 fillmore show, that will likely have me as a frank fan for life....and I think that Ian and Henry, jack and meg, bart and millhouse, are with me on that.
Also, I had a complete brain fart and thought Millhouse's last name was Milquetoast. so there's that.   
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on November 16, 2016, 04:41:48 pm
This may not be news to the rest of you but I definitely missed this if its not new: New JAMC album in March (http://www.avclub.com/article/new-jesus-and-mary-chain-album-coming-next-year-246024).
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on November 16, 2016, 05:03:55 pm
This may not be news to the rest of you but I definitely missed this if its not new: New JAMC album in March (http://www.avclub.com/article/new-jesus-and-mary-chain-album-coming-next-year-246024).

I'm just really worried its going to suck so bad... but at least it means they will tour again I guess...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 18, 2016, 12:14:44 pm
On goldstar....
Sebastian Bach
Howard Theatre
Washington, DC
COMP - $12.50
Nov 27, 2016
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Relaxer on November 18, 2016, 12:21:28 pm
This may not be news to the rest of you but I definitely missed this if its not new: New JAMC album in March (http://www.avclub.com/article/new-jesus-and-mary-chain-album-coming-next-year-246024).

I'm just really worried its going to suck so bad... but at least it means they will tour again I guess...

As I've stated too many times, Psychocandy is my #1 all-time album. But I'm not all that interested in new material from them. I like Darklands but everything after that is generic to me. Take away Psychocandy and JAMC was no more or less than Marcy Playground or Spacehog.
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Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 18, 2016, 12:26:17 pm
for you Frank Turner fans here (appear to be more detractors...but they can suck it)

11/21  Get Better film
http://frank-turner.com/

Get Better is a year long character study of one of the hardest working musicians on earth. Encompassing footage from friends, family and fans across England, Europe and the USA, film maker and friend Ben Morse set out to capture a band who are constantly in motion, only to find that they suddenly stopped. Forced to pause for the first time in ten years, the film explores what drives a man to stay on the road, and what that means for his life and those around him.


^ ouch on your JAMC w/o Psychocandy commentary...that's gotta hurt
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: challenged on November 18, 2016, 01:03:51 pm
for you Frank Turner fans here (appear to be more detractors...but they can suck it)

11/21  Get Better film
http://frank-turner.com/

Get Better is a year long character study of one of the hardest working musicians on earth. Encompassing footage from friends, family and fans across England, Europe and the USA, film maker and friend Ben Morse set out to capture a band who are constantly in motion, only to find that they suddenly stopped. Forced to pause for the first time in ten years, the film explores what drives a man to stay on the road, and what that means for his life and those around him.




^ ouch on your JAMC w/o Psychocandy commentary...that's gotta hurt

Pretty sure you can just text me the Frank Turner news...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: walkie,talkie on November 30, 2016, 12:56:35 pm
quite a few gay people, are into jam bands and love going to see jam band concerts . . . but I feel that quite a few people who also go see jam shows, do not like gay people.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 01, 2016, 07:27:50 pm
quite a few gay people, are into jam bands and love going to see jam band concerts . . . but I feel that quite a few people who also go see jam shows, do not like gay people.
I think Yada has to refute this or it is in fact true

My personal belief (however misguided) is that people who are into jam bands...often have very lame and very narrow musical taste (yada excluded...kinda ;) )
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on December 02, 2016, 11:19:30 am
quite a few gay people, are into jam bands and love going to see jam band concerts . . . but I feel that quite a few people who also go see jam shows, do not like gay people.
I think Yada has to refute this or it is in fact true

My personal belief (however misguided) is that people who are into jam bands...often have very lame and very narrow musical taste (yada excluded...kinda ;) )

I think we've been down this path many a times over the years... but the only "jamband" I like or see is Phish.... so I'm not sure I could be a valid data point.

<insert lame phish joke here>
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Post by: grateful on December 02, 2016, 11:23:11 am
(http://assets.inhabitat.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2016/11/Space-World-fish-in-skating-rink-lead-520x400.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: walkie,talkie on December 02, 2016, 12:05:17 pm
well truth be told . . . the same thought I have, can be said about metal concerts and their fans . . . country concerts and their fans . . . bluegrass concerts and their fans . . . rap concerts and their fans.  I just saw, said behavior at various jam shows and lot scenes, I have been to over the years, and I was going / following at least 6 or 7 different bands over the years.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on December 02, 2016, 12:21:03 pm
well truth be told . . . the same thought I have, can be said about metal concerts and their fans . . . country concerts and their fans . . . bluegrass concerts and their fans . . . rap concerts and their fans.  I just saw, said behavior at various jam shows and lot scenes, I have been to over the years, and I was going / following at least 6 or 7 different bands over the years.

Any band where the bro quotient is high, you'll probably be easily offended by the crowd as a gay person. Maybe stick to the Morrissey lot scene for that gay friendly vibe?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on December 02, 2016, 12:42:37 pm
Maybe stick to the Morrissey lot scene for that gay friendly vibe?
No dice. They're going to be rude to Walkie because he's not Latino gay. :(
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on December 02, 2016, 12:58:49 pm
yeah.. stay away from the moz, walkie
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: walkie,talkie on December 02, 2016, 02:24:29 pm
I like, meat.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: bearman🐻 on December 04, 2016, 07:03:49 pm
Can someone explain the hate for Belle and Sebastian's "Fold Your Hands Child, You Walk Like a Peasant"? Everyone seems to say it's a dud. I really, really don't get that. I think it's wonderful.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on December 04, 2016, 09:31:17 pm
Can someone explain the hate for Belle and Sebastian's "Fold Your Hands Child, You Walk Like a Peasant"? Everyone seems to say it's a dud. I really, really don't get that. I think it's wonderful.
I think it has three or four of their absolute best songs (Woman's Realm, The Model, Family Tree et al) but also some total duds. I think more of it as uneven than bad.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on December 04, 2016, 09:59:22 pm
I Fought in a War is the only song I like.. the only one that recalls Belle and Sebastian...

I cannot stand the album..
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on December 04, 2016, 10:22:31 pm
I Fought in a War is the only song I like.. the only one that recalls Belle and Sebastian...

I cannot stand the album..
You don't like woman's realm or The Model? Those are honestly in my top 5 B+S songs all time.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on December 04, 2016, 11:42:29 pm
I Fought in a War is the only song I like.. the only one that recalls Belle and Sebastian...

I cannot stand the album..
You don't like woman's realm or The Model? Those are honestly in my top 5 B+S songs all time.

i don't know if i want to get into this..
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on December 04, 2016, 11:44:02 pm
I was a total Belle and Sebastian geek/freak for a while.. this brings back painful memories..
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on December 04, 2016, 11:46:20 pm
I was a total Belle and Sebastian geek/freak for a while.. this brings back painful memories..
Fair enough; different strokes for different folks.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: bearman🐻 on December 05, 2016, 09:37:17 am
I was a total Belle and Sebastian geek/freak for a while.. this brings back painful memories..
Fair enough; different strokes for different folks.

Uneven yes...but not unlistenable. I think "Roy Walker" is one of those songs that ruins "Dear Catastrophe Waitress" for me. It reminds me too much of "The Lion Sleeps Tonight". As for FYHCYWLAP, I think the duds are all relative. It's one of those LPs that has probably aged better than people would think. I don't think that the last one will age that well. That's by far my least favorite B&S record.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on December 05, 2016, 09:42:47 am
I don't think that the last one will age that well. That's by far my least favorite B&S record.
Are we counting Storytelling? Storytelling aside, I agree with the general sentiment: Girls in Peacetime is really subpar.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: bearman🐻 on December 05, 2016, 10:53:15 am
I don't think that the last one will age that well. That's by far my least favorite B&S record.
Are we counting Storytelling? Storytelling aside, I agree with the general sentiment: Girls in Peacetime is really subpar.

Storytelling isn't really a "proper" B&S LP so I can forgive that. It's got a few songs that would have made another great EP. "Wandering Alone" is so great. When they played "Fuck This Shit" at the Hollywood Bowl and the LA Philharmonic came in, I just about cried because it was so beautiful.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on December 08, 2016, 12:02:15 pm
What, no mention of Robbie Fulks getting two Grammy nominations? You guys are slipping.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 14, 2016, 09:21:48 pm
I need this to be documented, so the archeologists, when analyzing this era of mankind and the art it consumed..will all agree

Paul McCartney & Wings - Wonderful Christmas Time is the worst musical creation of all time
It makes me want to hear We Built This City
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: walkie,talkie on December 16, 2016, 12:09:35 pm
I have a friend who is going, to a new years eve show . . . and they are telling him, that all tickets are mobile only, meaning no hard tickets, no print out papers.  You show your email with the ticket code and you get in.  If you have multiple tickets on an order, the people who are claiming those other tickets, have to be there when you go in to the venue.

Is this, how they are stopping scalpers, now?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on December 20, 2016, 07:12:01 pm
Every Fleet Foxes song, ranked

https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2016/12/ranking-every-fleet-foxes-song.html
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on December 23, 2016, 01:23:37 pm
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/15724758_1394851403881674_5630440412993288903_o.jpg?oh=b139aa52e3d548dc129783e3a7e726e8&oe=58F303CB)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on January 17, 2017, 12:24:36 pm
https://www.facebook.com/coslive/photos/a.10150265867111648.379791.19875021647/10154729491456648/?type=3&theater
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on January 19, 2017, 06:11:31 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2j5pW0UsAEVpkX.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 04, 2017, 04:58:50 pm
Bad Brains? Paul ?H.R.? Hudson to Undergo Brain Surgery (http://pitchfork.com/news/64161-bad-brains-paul-hr-hudson-to-undergo-brain-surgery/)
head line is worthy of the Onion thread, but sorry to hear this. I hope it helps
glad to see his gofundme (https://www.gofundme.com/r4ua4wng) page is doing well, I decided to leave some

Never heard the back story on the bands name, but some eerie foreshadowing
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on February 04, 2017, 06:17:36 pm
Recently picked up "I Robot". While listening in the car this afternoon, I realized (no pun intended) that this was the Alan Parsons-related album that Flaming Lips should have covered instead of "Dark Side Of The Moon".
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 05, 2017, 09:01:06 pm
(https://scontent.fash1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15977734_236196393501086_3762993652665801243_n.jpg?oh=7c5d830bb227941dc0c884e46a9c8200&oe=5948AFAC)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on February 05, 2017, 10:29:37 pm
great primal scream sample use... i think i just picked up the soundtrack last week but probably the sample is directly from the movie... i'll check and see someday..
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: walkie,talkie on February 15, 2017, 01:26:07 pm
listening to a very interesting interview with henry rollins, with ru paul on her podcast, "what's the tee?" from 06/17/2015
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 16, 2017, 11:25:39 pm
gawd, finally heard the Brinsley Schwarz original and just doesn't hold a candle to Declan MacManus version
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on February 16, 2017, 11:55:11 pm
gawd, finally heard the Brinsley Schwarz original and just doesn't hold a candle to Declan MacManus version


well to be fair Brinsley Schwarz was a different band at a different time.. "pub rock" ,for lack of a better word, hadn't happened yet
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 22, 2017, 10:49:51 am
Bad Brains? Paul ?H.R.? Hudson to Undergo Brain Surgery (http://pitchfork.com/news/64161-bad-brains-paul-hr-hudson-to-undergo-brain-surgery/)
head line is worthy of the Onion thread, but sorry to hear this. I hope it helps
glad to see his gofundme (https://www.gofundme.com/r4ua4wng) page is doing well, I decided to leave some

Never heard the back story on the bands name, but some eerie foreshadowing


HR had his surgery early yesterday morning. It went well and he has been resting in the ICU.

http://pitchfork.com/news/71772-bad-brains-hr-recovering-after-brain-surgery/

Your thoughts and prayers have helped more than you know. Many thanks.
-Lori
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on February 22, 2017, 11:15:14 am
gawd, finally heard the Brinsley Schwarz original and just doesn't hold a candle to Declan MacManus version

version of what?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: ggw on February 22, 2017, 11:26:27 am
gawd, finally heard the Brinsley Schwarz original and just doesn't hold a candle to Declan MacManus version

version of what?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_u2OK_IKw0

perhaps.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on February 22, 2017, 11:41:14 am
gawd, finally heard the Brinsley Schwarz original and just doesn't hold a candle to Declan MacManus version

version of what?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_u2OK_IKw0

perhaps.

That's what I thought. I'll take Nick Lowe over Elvis on any song, any day of the week. I love the fat drummer in that video. When was the last time you saw a fat drummer?

I once saw Nick do this song solo acoustic at a Borders somewhere in Maryland. There were only 20 or so people there. He finished with it (and it was great), and the fat old lady next to me started exclaiming "He didn't do Cruel to Be Kind! He didn't do Cruel to Be Kind!"
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 22, 2017, 01:12:26 pm
gawd, finally heard the Brinsley Schwarz original and just doesn't hold a candle to Declan MacManus version

version of what?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_u2OK_IKw0

perhaps.

That's what I thought. I'll take Nick Lowe over Elvis on any song, any day of the week. I love the fat drummer in that video. When was the last time you saw a fat drummer?

2 things
1.  NL is great, but I think the BS original is just flat, boring. and  frankly an unmemorable song.  EC  for me his version is vital, visceral and essential.  would easily make my top 100 list
2. The one take away from the Brinsely video...Loved that drummer :)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on February 24, 2017, 03:20:45 pm
242 for me, how about you?

http://www.esquire.com/entertainment/music/quizzes/a53194/music-iq-quiz/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: ggw on February 24, 2017, 03:47:38 pm
242 as well.  Which is pretty respectable given my complete ignorance of the hip-hop genre.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on February 24, 2017, 04:30:46 pm
245, suck it suckers!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Relaxer on February 24, 2017, 04:59:42 pm
245
I blew a couple of those indie bands.
I must admit, I got a LOT of guesses right, simply by listening to the song and matching it to the aesthetic of its album cover.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on February 24, 2017, 05:06:23 pm
god I blow... 241...

crushing....my weekend is ruined... a couple really messed me up
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on April 10, 2017, 04:41:43 pm
If this is true then Paul Tollett is the stupidest person on the planet.

Coachella Turned Down Booking Kate Bush Because ?Nobody Is Going to Understand It,? Apparently (http://pitchfork.com/news/72784-coachella-apparently-turned-down-booking-kate-bush-because-nobody-is-going-to-understand-it/?mbid=social_twitter)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Relaxer on April 10, 2017, 05:08:16 pm
He probably would've been totally on-board if she'd only used her last name.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: vansmack on April 19, 2017, 02:01:39 pm
Raffi Apologizes to the New Pornographers (http://pitchfork.com/news/72998-raffi-apologizes-to-the-new-pornographers/?mbid=social_twitter)

The children?s music icon had said he ?strongly objects? to their name

Yesterday, children?s music icon Raffi tweeted that he ?strongly objects? to the New Pornographers? band name. He clarified his belief that ?porn? is ?not a word to normalize in public conversation.? In response, New Pornos frontman Carl Newman sent out a series of tweets, including jokes about his 5-year-old son?s reaction to the situation. Raffi has now apologized to the New Pornographers, his representatives have told Pitchfork. In a message to Newman, he said, ?In a fleeting moment I reacted to a word, which I wrote about in my book Lightweb Darkweb. My Tweet was without context, on a gig night, Not cool. I apologize, Meant no disrespect to the band, its music, or its fans. RC.? Pitchfork has reached out to the New Pornographers? representatives for comment.

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on April 19, 2017, 02:07:42 pm
Just remember this moment in a few years when both Neko Case and Raffi have been gunned down as a result of this music feud.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on April 19, 2017, 03:20:38 pm
Just remember this moment in a few years when both Neko Case and Raffi have been gunned down as a result of this music feud.

Or hooked up.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on April 19, 2017, 03:25:29 pm
Just remember this moment in a few years when both Neko Case and Raffi have been gunned down as a result of this music feud.

Or hooked up.
Honestly a murderous rap battle seems cooler than 2 musicians having a kid together. Avril Lavigne and the Nickleback guy already did that and that kid sucks.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on April 19, 2017, 03:51:44 pm
Raffi en fuego
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on April 19, 2017, 10:18:17 pm
I'm really looking forward to Poptone coming east.....they're apparently going to focus on Tones on Tail stuff.... I hope they play DC...

http://crypticrock.com/interview-daniel-ash/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on April 28, 2017, 08:31:30 am
For those of you who bitch about what an asshole Jeff Tweedy is, maybe you'd be a little on edge too if you had to live through this...

http://pages.lightthenight.org/il/Metrochicago17/teamsusanmillertweedy

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on April 28, 2017, 09:04:34 am
For those of you who bitch about what an asshole Jeff Tweedy is, maybe you'd be a little on edge too if you had to live through this...

http://pages.lightthenight.org/il/Metrochicago17/teamsusanmillertweedy



I think he was a prick long before this and he's actually been less pricky over the past few years.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on April 28, 2017, 09:07:15 am
I think he was a prick long before this and he's actually been less pricky over the past few years.
Agreed.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on April 28, 2017, 09:29:18 am
For those of you who bitch about what an asshole Jeff Tweedy is, maybe you'd be a little on edge too if you had to live through this...

http://pages.lightthenight.org/il/Metrochicago17/teamsusanmillertweedy



I think he was a prick long before this and he's actually been less pricky over the past few years.

Wait, are you talking about Tweedy, or about me?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 28, 2017, 09:35:22 am
For those of you who bitch about what an asshole Jeff Tweedy is, maybe you'd be a little on edge too if you had to live through this...

http://pages.lightthenight.org/il/Metrochicago17/teamsusanmillertweedy



I think he was a prick long before this and he's actually been less pricky over the past few years.

Wait, are you talking about Tweedy, or about me?
hard to know for sure
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on April 28, 2017, 09:38:30 am
I feel like any perceived reduction in prickliness in Space is the result of Space passing off much of his prickliness as his child's. There's the same prickliness, we're just mentally dividing it up between two people in our minds now.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on April 28, 2017, 09:45:41 am
I feel like any perceived reduction in prickliness in Space is the result of Space passing off much of his prickliness as his child's. There's the same prickliness, we're just mentally dividing it up between two people in our minds now.

There's actually three of us.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on April 30, 2017, 03:29:18 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-lnBeWU0AAOGFv.jpg:large) (https://twitter.com/maxsparber/status/858330495788220416)

Next level goth
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 30, 2017, 03:57:12 pm
I've heard that crows are very smart and can actually be taught to talk like a parrot
although...the goth thing make me think it's a raven
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on April 30, 2017, 06:17:19 pm
I've heard that crows are very smart and can actually be taught to talk like a parrot
although...the goth thing make me think it's a raven

According to the source, it's a raven. (https://twitter.com/maxsparber/status/858330495788220416) The very thick bill is the most telling sign.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: bearman🐻 on May 03, 2017, 11:29:36 am
http://pitchfork.com/features/article/10061-the-definitive-oral-history-of-jawbreakers-24-hour-revenge-therapy/

For anyone that's a Jawbreaker fan, I found this to be a fascinating read.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on May 16, 2017, 04:44:09 pm
Musical Festivals Database (http://musicalfestivals.org/)

This probably isn't what you hope it to be. It's hardcore musicology.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: ggw on June 05, 2017, 02:35:38 pm
maybe he won't accept his award... and make Julian happy?

http://pitchfork.com/news/69019-nobel-committee-says-bob-dylan-is-ignoring-them/

Dylan delivers his Nobel lecture:

http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/literature/laureates/2016/dylan-lecture.html
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 06, 2017, 09:25:09 am
6/6 is #InternationalSlayerDay

(https://scontent.fash1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p480x480/18920657_10155512161718442_5827841834177628755_n.jpg?oh=e0d15aff45f030e555c2d231c11cfb11&oe=59AD415A)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on June 18, 2017, 11:36:58 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCmXBCaWsAA7BiP.jpg)

h/t @frozenreeds (https://twitter.com/frozenreeds)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 18, 2017, 12:21:57 pm
#9 is kind of a dick statement

and what the f is Suave breaker
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on June 18, 2017, 03:41:37 pm
#9 is probably pretty standard for such riders. This doesn't mean that the band won't offer to. If they're rushed (or the driver isn't sufficiently suave), fuhgettaboutit.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on June 18, 2017, 04:02:02 pm
What the fuck?! Kraftwerk ripped off my default driver rider!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on June 22, 2017, 04:39:45 pm
I wonder if this guy tours...I would totally see this show!

https://www.greatbigstory.com/stories/the-nightmare-machine/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on June 27, 2017, 07:46:13 pm
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/19511606_10158940643530596_8191048950245980269_n.jpg?oh=0f6c3d9aa772529ab66cae817c353937&oe=5A0D6C4C)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 27, 2017, 08:26:10 pm
who dat?
(http://img.usmagazine.com/480-width/800043282_eminem-zoom-d3e91cfd-e6d5-45dc-9009-833bd2fc3e3e.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: herman otto on June 28, 2017, 05:13:36 pm
^^  a, very, very, rich man.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Kemosabe on June 29, 2017, 12:43:07 pm
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/p720x720/19511428_1483316508426077_4713127928284126495_n.jpg?oh=cc712a382c8b374cc8efe66a430be76f&oe=5A108B88)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on June 30, 2017, 10:03:47 pm
A radio station thought it just discovered Annie Lennox (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/annie-lennox-radio-station-discovered-letter/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=39308075)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on June 30, 2017, 10:08:47 pm
(https://target.scene7.com/is/image/Target/52476561?wid=520&hei=520&fmt=pjpeg)

Warped Tour '17 headlined by Justin Bieber.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on July 01, 2017, 08:05:13 pm
(https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/yPAyL-I5TeXlbLpnjNv8QK6csP8=/0x0:700x525/1820x1213/filters:focal(294x207:406x319)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/55525591/CANYON_X_KRAFTWERK_4.0.jpg)

The €10,000 Kraftwerk bike (https://www.theverge.com/2017/6/30/15900568/canyon-kraftwerk-bike-tour-de-france?utm_campaign=theverge&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Kemosabe on July 19, 2017, 01:52:36 pm
https://www.forbes.com/sites/hughmcintyre/2017/07/17/hip-hoprb-has-now-become-the-dominant-genre-in-the-u-s-for-the-first-time/#1cbaa87d5383


Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Kemosabe on July 26, 2017, 04:21:25 pm
http://www.npr.org/2017/07/24/538387823/turning-the-tables-150-greatest-albums-made-by-women

http://themuse.jezebel.com/the-150-worst-albums-made-by-men-1797242454

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on August 07, 2017, 02:07:39 pm
Music Festival with a Scientist: https://www.facebook.com/AsapSCIENCE/videos/1136901463107549/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: vansmack on August 10, 2017, 06:01:20 pm
Did 1997 contain the worst two weeks in music history? (http://www.avclub.com/article/did-1997-contain-worst-two-weeks-music-history-258568?)

tldr; Yes.

I could have posted this in the Ween thread.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 10, 2017, 06:48:39 pm
Did 1997 contain the worst two weeks in music history? (http://www.avclub.com/article/did-1997-contain-worst-two-weeks-music-history-258568?)

tldr; Yes.

I could have posted this in the Ween thread.
I would 100% agree with the article " there’s probably someone who would say that The Mollusk alone redeems these two weeks."
TLDR...used crtl-f to find the Ween mentions
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on August 11, 2017, 06:14:17 pm
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4403/35700596873_cc607daeda_b.jpg)

Of course, they deleted it....
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: herman otto on August 12, 2017, 12:53:47 pm
not sure what it worse . . . that it happened, that the happening made national news, that the national news of the happening of it, made it here.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 12, 2017, 12:57:03 pm
someone mentioned soulwax recently

Written and produced by Soulwax and curated by prolific sound director Michel Gaubert, the eclectic, escalating tempo is narrated by four ibiza inhabitants and pays homage to life in Ibiza in the 70’s and 80’s. Close To Paradise is a collaboration with LOEWE to celebrate the Spanish house’s connection to the island. Also to celebrate LOEWE’s third edition of their summer store in Ibiza’s Museu d’Art Contemporani (MACE) and a further expansion to the house’s fashion collection with Paula’s Boutique.
 (https://thevinylfactory.com/product/ibiza-close-to-paradise/?utm_medium=live&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=offthepress&utm_content=soulwaxibiza)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on September 09, 2017, 11:29:14 pm
Florida Georgia Line was on Seth Meyers last night and that was the most embarrassing thing I've seen since Muse was on SNL.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: herman otto on September 13, 2017, 11:47:13 am
L7 is releasing new music again! If they play DC, I demand that they play the 930 Club and not the anthem.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on September 13, 2017, 04:47:43 pm
This is what happened when Bobby Bare Jr and Jason Isbell decided to have a kid together.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/847522476284366848/1-4AnIUm_400x400.jpg)
 

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: ggw on September 13, 2017, 07:23:58 pm
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-09-06/martin-shkreli-s-one-of-a-kind-wu-tang-album-listed-for-sale-on-ebay
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on September 13, 2017, 09:46:03 pm
"I will be curious to see if the world values music nearly as much as I have."

From the guy that knows the price of everything and the value of nothing.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on September 16, 2017, 10:31:17 am
New Prophets of Rage > new Foo Fighters
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: herman otto on September 30, 2017, 11:25:03 pm
It, would seem that the new Marilyn Manson tour . . . is going well.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on November 18, 2017, 11:27:46 pm
But no Geddy Lee?

www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2017/11/the-10-best-rock-bassists-of-all-time.html
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 27, 2017, 02:46:47 pm
nice Mtn Goats review
http://dcmusicdownload.com/2017/11/10/review-and-photos-the-mountain-goats-and-mothers-at-930-club/

was Kozmo Dj'ing
As a side note, credit is deserved to whomever curates the playlists in between bands at 9:30. After Mothers struck their set, two black candelabras were brought out as stage decorations while the playlist transitioned to some appropriately-scary black metal. Well played.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on November 27, 2017, 04:04:37 pm
was Kozmo Dj'ing
Is there a completely unprompted thread with the setlist of what came out of someone's iPod? If not, then no.
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Post by: vansmack on December 03, 2017, 12:36:05 pm
Neil Young's Complete Collection available for free in high quality streams:

http://www.neilyoungarchives.com
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on December 06, 2017, 02:52:06 pm
This week's Song Exploder takes on Nine Inch Nails
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Post by: ggw on December 06, 2017, 07:50:44 pm
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-12-05/a-band-without-a-no-1-hit-is-outselling-bruno-mars-ed-sheeran
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on December 19, 2017, 02:29:00 pm
Kam Franklin the Suffers singer has a Nu Metal covers EP in the works... consider me interested and confused
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: ggw on January 10, 2018, 10:32:37 am
Radiohead Accuses Lana del Rey of Plagiarizing Song Radiohead Plagiarized from the Hollies (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/09/arts/music/lana-del-rey-radiohead-copyright.html)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on January 11, 2018, 10:53:02 pm
So, what really happened to Front 242? Did, they just give up on putting out incredible albums like those two back-to-back masterpieces they did?  Should I stop wanting them to keep putting out things like, up evil and off?
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Post by: sweetcell on January 12, 2018, 02:01:27 am
So, what really happened to Front 242? Did, they just give up on putting out incredible albums like those two back-to-back masterpieces they did?  Should I stop wanting them to keep putting out things like, up evil and off?

well, those two albums came out in 1993... so yeah, i wouldn't hold my breath.  have you listened to "pulse"?

FYI they'll be touring the US again in april.  closest show appears to be at the troc in philly, on saturday 4/14.  they played baltimore this past october.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: ggw on January 12, 2018, 11:04:17 am
https://twitter.com/John_Fogerty/status/951592439369928711

There is a movie in current release called ‘Proud Mary.’ I don’t know much about it other than this. The main character is a black woman who is also an assassin. And apparently, her name is Mary. I wrote the song ‘Proud Mary’ 50 years ago, and I was very excited to have written such a good song.  In fact, it was my very first good song. My songs are special to me.  Precious. So it irks me when people seek to capitalize on the popularity of my music and the good will it has earned with the public for their own financial gain. Over the years, I have often found myself directly opposed to these uses. This movie has nothing to do with me, or my song. They simply picked the title and wrote a completely fictitious story around it. Back in the day, I had decided that I needed to become more professional, more organized about my songwriting efforts. I bought a little notebook and after few days, I wrote down the words. Proud Mary. It was the very first entry in this book.  At first, I didn’t even know what those words meant. No one ever asked me about using my song this way, or even about the meaning of ‘Proud Mary.’  The movie poster has my lyrics changed to read…. ‘killing for the Man every night and day.’ I wrote the song about a mythical riverboat, cruising on a mythical river, in a mythical time. Perhaps, the setting was ‘back in time’ on the Mississippi River. It was obviously a metaphor about leaving painful, stressful things behind for a more tranquil and meaningful life. 
Far from a story about killing people for money."
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Post by: vansmack on January 12, 2018, 01:40:34 pm
I saw the trailer when I saw The Last Jedi, and the song was definitely in the trailer (not his version, of course).  Is he saying he didn't authorize that too, because I have a tough time believing that.

Looks to me like he might not have asked enough questions and has some regret over authorizing it's use - a far cry from what he argued in that tweet.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on January 12, 2018, 04:17:23 pm
Eric Clapton: 'I'm Going Deaf'
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Post by: notme on January 12, 2018, 11:27:34 pm
Fogerty might not own the rights to Proud Mary. He does not own the rights to most (if not all) of his music from the 60s. His 60s record label Fantasy owns the rights. Up until the 2000s, he either could not or would not play the songs live.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: ggw on January 19, 2018, 11:36:21 am
Fogerty might not own the rights to Proud Mary. He does not own the rights to most (if not all) of his music from the 60s. His 60s record label Fantasy owns the rights. Up until the 2000s, he either could not or would not play the songs live.

You are correct - Fogerty does not own the rights.  The New York Times agrees with Fogerty, with their film reviewer writing, "It's such a tone-deaf misappropriation of music that it left me feeling litigious."

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/19/movies/proud-mary-john-fogerty-taraji-p-henson.html
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Post by: Justin Tonation on January 21, 2018, 08:41:36 pm
Alex Lifeson confirms RUSH’s breakup: “After 41 years, we felt it was enough” (https://consequenceofsound.net/2018/01/alex-lifeson-confirms-rushs-breakup-after-41-years-we-felt-it-was-enough/)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: ggw on January 27, 2018, 07:17:15 pm
Songwriters Score Win Over Streaming Services With Pay Hike (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-27/songwriters-score-victory-over-streaming-services-with-pay-hike)

By Lananh Nguyen  and Lucas Shaw
January 27, 2018, 2:47 PM EST Updated on January 27, 2018, 5:13 PM EST

Artists’ share of revenue increased to 15.1% from 10.5%
‘Good day for songwriters,’ bad one for Spotify, Pandora

Songwriters will get a larger cut of revenue from streaming services after a court handed technology companies a big defeat.

The Copyright Royalty Board ruled that songwriters will get at least a 15.1 percent share of streaming revenues over the next five years, from a previous 10.5 percent. That’s the largest rate increase in CRB history, according to a statement from the National Music Publishers’ Association.

The decision is a major victory for songwriters, who have long complained they are insufficiently uncompensated by on-demand music services like Spotify and YouTube. Streaming services account for the largest share of music industry sales in the U.S., while global streaming sales jumped 60 percent in 2016, according to the IFPI. 


“It’s a good day for songwriters,” NMPA president David Israelite said. “This is the first time the court has litigated the contribution of songwriters to these digital platforms.”

Songwriters had also been pushing to get paid each time a song is streamed. Israelite said the rate increase made up for that defeat.

The decision was made after a trial in which NMPA and the Nashville Songwriters Association International represented music publishers and songwriters against Alphabet Inc., which owns YouTube and Google; Amazon.com Inc., Apple Inc., Spotify Technology and Pandora Media Inc.

The ruling will increase costs for Spotify, the world’s largest paid online music service. It already says it loses money because of the cost of music rights.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: ggw on January 31, 2018, 07:52:08 pm
Taylor Swift vs The Scalpers (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-31/taylor-swift-wants-her-money-back)
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Post by: Justin Tonation on February 07, 2018, 08:03:36 pm
Rock ain’t nothing but a white version of rhythm and blues, motherfucker.

Yes, this Quincy Jones interview (http://www.vulture.com/2018/02/quincy-jones-in-conversation.html) has been all over the twitternet today, but ICYMI go have a good time reading it.
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Post by: hutch on February 07, 2018, 09:44:43 pm
Q is a badass....
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on February 08, 2018, 11:19:54 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DVhUdFpW0AAvkRG.jpg)

The Q effect
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Post by: Justin Tonation on February 13, 2018, 07:07:51 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DV4Y5YMVQAAzSd_.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: ggw on February 25, 2018, 01:57:59 pm
"Today, in the age of Facebook, Google and Amazon, it's hard to tell how a new and growing musical artist could make it in the way we did," Young wrote. "The Tech Giants have figured out a way to use all the great music of everyone from all time, without reporting an artist's number of plays or paying a f--king cent to the musicians. Aren't they great companies!!! It makes you wonder where the next generation of artists will come from. How will they survive?"

https://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/neil-young-goes-on-epic-vent-about-google/ar-BBJx8kb?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on March 01, 2018, 07:54:00 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DXOkFBcVAAAdhTD.jpg)(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DXOkGO0U0AAHrjs.jpg)

Robert Plant has morphed into the Cowardly Lion.
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Post by: vansmack on March 03, 2018, 04:55:01 pm
"Today, in the age of Facebook, Google and Amazon, it's hard to tell how a new and growing musical artist could make it in the way we did," Young wrote. "The Tech Giants have figured out a way to use all the great music of everyone from all time, without reporting an artist's number of plays or paying a f--king cent to the musicians. Aren't they great companies!!! It makes you wonder where the next generation of artists will come from. How will they survive?"
https://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/neil-young-goes-on-epic-vent-about-google/ar-BBJx8kb?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp

It's never the artist's or the industry's fault.  First it was the cassette recorder, then Napster, then it was the CD-ROM and iTunes, youtube, Facebook, Amazon....

The industry had Shawn Fanning and Napster offering up the future on a platter and the artists and the industry fought it.  Figure out how to get on board and be part of the future, because the past is dead.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: ggw on March 19, 2018, 09:42:08 am
17 Acts That Stood Out at SXSW (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/18/arts/music/sxsw-south-by-southwest-festival-best-music.html)
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Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 21, 2018, 08:19:37 am
cool little piece on I.M.P. COO Donna Westmoreland by UMD


https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10215112925472130&id=1101362495
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Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 21, 2018, 08:34:11 am
glad to hear they are doing this...kinda like the 3 bands 3 bucks era (inflation...so it's now 3 bands for 3 $5 bills)
don't love the name 'homebrew'  but at least they are trying to cultivate local talent

All great bands start somewhere, and we want that somewhere to be right here at 9:30 Club. That's why we're presenting HomeBrew - a new series of shows carefully curated to pay homage to the local/DIY music that we love - all with the simple goal of giving the stage to the great bands that deserve it. The inaugural HomeBrew, this Friday at 9:30, features experimental alt-rockers Maneka, melodic indie-rockers Bleary Eyed, droney guitar lords Tosser, and a set from DJ Franzia to cap things off. Don’t miss your chance to sample treats from these budding D.C.-area artists. Indulge in the first HomeBrew – regret it you will not.

HomeBrew
MANEKA
w/ Bleary Eyed • Tosser • DJ Franzia
@ 9:30 Club
This Friday!
March 23
8pm Doors
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Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 28, 2018, 05:00:03 pm
whoa...kinks gettin' the band back together
https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/the-kinks-reunion-ray-davies-band-pete-quaife-a8418221.html

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Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 16, 2018, 03:31:27 pm
(https://static.punknews.org/images/frontpage/fp-1372099615.jpg)

 Bronx and Mariachi el Bronx drummer Jorma Vik called out Warped headlining act, Black Veil Brides for using potemkin (i.e. fake) amplifiers during their set (https://www.punknews.org/article/52052/bronx-drummer-calls-out-warped-band-for-using-fake-amps)

edit...this was from 5 years ago
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Post by: sweetcell on July 16, 2018, 07:37:31 pm


(https://static.punknews.org/images/frontpage/fp-1372099615.jpg)

 Bronx and Mariachi el Bronx drummer Jorma Vik called out Warped headlining act, Black Veil Brides for using potemkin (i.e. fake) amplifiers during their set (https://www.punknews.org/article/52052/bronx-drummer-calls-out-warped-band-for-using-fake-amps)

edit...this was from 5 years ago

"We use staging in our stage show. Also these are tattoos, I wasn't born with the batman logo on my arm."

AKA "no shit sherlock".  every band with a wall of speaker cabinets behind them is using them as stage props.  even *if* they are real Marshall cabs, with actual speakers inside them, they aren't plugged in and powered by an amp - but generally they're pure props.  having an wall of actually plugged-in stacks makes no sense technically, musically, logistically nor financially.  this article is the equivalent of "exposing" the lip-syncing of boy-bands or pop-tarts. 

that being said, i shit on this band for not even slapping some black-painted particle board across the back of those fake cabs.  that's just sloppy.  amateurs. 
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Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 17, 2018, 08:42:00 am
AKA "no shit sherlock".  every band with a wall of speaker cabinets behind them is using them as stage props.  even *if* they are real Marshall cabs, with actual speakers inside them, they aren't plugged in and powered by an amp - but generally they're pure props.  having an wall of actually plugged-in stacks makes no sense technically, musically, logistically nor financially.  this article is the equivalent of "exposing" the lip-syncing of boy-bands or pop-tarts. 

that being said, i shit on this band for not even slapping some black-painted particle board across the back of those fake cabs.  that's just sloppy.  amateurs.
this I did not know...I can see in a stadium why a bunch of marshal stacks wouldn't really work
but at the club when bands have a stack behind them...are they always fake

Want to say it was sonic youth..and I feel like it was intentional...but their amps said marsha
(https://media.guitarcenter.com/is/image/MMGS7/MG250DFX-100W-2x12-Guitar-Combo-Amp/000000114200978-00-500x500.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: ggw on July 17, 2018, 09:43:20 am
Van Halen, The Who, Neil Young, Grateful Dead... just a few of the many many bands that use or have used fake amps as part of their stage show. I remember seeing Green Day torch a couple of empty cabinets at the end of their Warped Tour show. This is such a non-story. Jorma Vik comes off as a bit of a douche.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 17, 2018, 10:37:52 am
Please tune-in to Forbidden Alliance radio on Sunday July 22, 2018 at 9AM on WOWD 94.3 FM. In honor of my interview guest, I'll play all 70s-80s punk rock songs from 9:00-10:30AM.

Then from 10:30-12:00 we will interview Ian MacKaye (Minor Threat, Fugazi, the Evens, & Dischord Records). Ian will discuss what influenced him to become a musician & label owner, and play his favorite songs.

In the picture below you see Ian, Skip Groff (Yesterday And Today Records, where Ian worked when he was in high school) & Henry Rollins. You can listen online at takomaradio.org (Takoma Radio)

(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/37243119_10156703331304928_362468877273137152_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=06e57630224b374bc02380e827c282dd&oe=5BE4A00B)
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Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 18, 2018, 01:11:03 pm
another new (new to me at least) venue in DC


https://www.facebook.com/slashrun/

Slash Run is a rock n’ roll burger joint, bar and music venue located in the Petworth neighborhood of Washington, DC serving a variety of wildly delicious burgers, wings, fries and more from the kitchen plus a wide variety of local craft-beers and a massive whiskey list at the bar

(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/34742676_2098602706834007_8902347528108769280_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=15939ffd19dc041d821725829af8b46c&oe=5BD1AF08)

these are end times when we have 'MOSH-FIT'
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/36312816_2130643153629962_2620675218795921408_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=29bdfaaa45ea767e95071c5bc2559002&oe=5BD2A516)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on July 25, 2018, 09:55:44 pm
as, if . . . so many people on here like phish, or would even listen to them.  but, if you would like to experience one of the greatest live bands in the history of music . . . then listen to tonight's show in san fran, for free

http://www.livephish.com/default.aspx
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on July 28, 2018, 07:12:23 pm
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/lost-neil-young-joni-mitchell-concert-recordings-from-1968-unearthed-704580/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: challenged on July 29, 2018, 01:55:43 pm
Saw Clem Burke at Slash/Run, Sidehootch...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgpL1loMCq4&feature=youtu.be   (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgpL1loMCq4&feature=youtu.be)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 31, 2018, 02:27:47 pm
Didn't stay for Weezer
they did play buddy holly first as we were leaving and felt I got 'the full Weeze' that I needed
I think I made the right choice as I didn't need an ironic cover of "Africa" by toto either 

not sure we needed this either...Toto to release cover of Weezer’s “Hash Pipe” (https://consequenceofsound.net/2018/07/toto-weezer-hash-pipe/)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: challenged on July 31, 2018, 02:44:30 pm
love me some =w=. bought the urban outfitters only green vinyl edition of the cover of Africa. if that show would have been in DC or Maryland, would have been the show of the week for me.
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Post by: vansmack on July 31, 2018, 03:05:38 pm
love me some =w=. bought the urban outfitters only green vinyl edition of the cover of Africa. if that show would have been in DC or Maryland, would have been the show of the week for me.

=w= > DC > Urban Outfitters > Maryland > vinyl > that cover of Africa

EDIT:

I like Toto's cover (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9N9OM1nxdYc) better, but I'm not sure I'm complimenting there.....
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: challenged on July 31, 2018, 07:02:49 pm
love me some =w=. bought the urban outfitters only green vinyl edition of the cover of Africa. if that show would have been in DC or Maryland, would have been the show of the week for me.

=w= > DC > Urban Outfitters > Maryland > vinyl > that cover of Africa

EDIT:

I like Toto's cover (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9N9OM1nxdYc) better, but I'm not sure I'm complimenting there.....


=w= greater than an entire chain of clothing, accessories, and record stores?  Sure as Kilimanjaro rises, you are on the drugs.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: vansmack on July 31, 2018, 08:31:18 pm
It's probably been 15 years since I bought something from Urban Outfitters and much longer since I bought vinyl.

I hear =w= probably once a week, definitely once every two weeks.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: challenged on July 31, 2018, 08:37:59 pm
It's probably been 15 years since I bought something from Urban Outfitters and much longer since I bought vinyl.

I hear =w= probably once a week, definitely once every two weeks.

You're right, I am sorry.
=w= over everything.
fave weez show? Mine was this

  https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/weezer/2011/the-joint-at-hard-rock-hotel-las-vegas-nv-4bd2dbda.html    (https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/weezer/2011/the-joint-at-hard-rock-hotel-las-vegas-nv-4bd2dbda.html)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on August 01, 2018, 09:00:07 am
Woa!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: vansmack on August 01, 2018, 12:10:44 pm
fave weez show? Mine was this

Tough to say.  They were everywhere in LA when I was in college in the early 90's and hard not to see.  Some of their early shows were great with very few people around, but of course their catalog was limited.

Maybe the Pinkerton tour show at the 930 in 96 or 97?  I was a big fan of that as a second album.  Totally different sound and vibe, which I loved.

 If not that show, when they hit the road again in like 2005 at the Warfield in SF.   

I will say though, that I can't remember a bad show at the Joint in Vegas.  Always worth the trip for the right band.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on August 24, 2018, 12:43:36 pm
It’s unclear if fans or Jackson’s estate will be awarded for the criminal behavior or whether there will be an monetary punishment for Sony.

https://www.spin.com/2018/08/sony-confesses-to-releasing-fake-michael-jackson-music/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on November 09, 2018, 08:43:40 am
This week's 99% Invisible tells the backstory of the cover art of Devo's Q: Are We Not Men? A: We Are Devo! including an interview with Chi Chi Rodriguez.


https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/devolutionary-design/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 21, 2018, 02:26:19 pm
"Rap and other modern [forms of art] are rested upon three pillars - sex, drugs and protest,"
"rap music is a threat to Russia, and that it should be regulated. " (https://www.businessinsider.com/putin-says-russian-rap-music-is-need-taking-over-drugs-sex-protest-2018-12)

hey Vlad...Rap music ...hasn't been called that since the 80's...
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Post by: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on December 26, 2018, 08:30:36 pm
Oliver Tree . . . is the, new Beck.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 27, 2018, 09:44:03 am
So NYC decides to name some streets after some hip-hop legends...Wu Tang and Biggie

but unless I'm unaware...what about the 2 decades of rap pioneers that came out of NYC and changed music forever?
seems weird to leave out Grandmaseter flash and the furious five, Kurtis Blow, Run DMC, PE, Tribe, LL, EricB & Rakim and a long list of others to give streets to late 90's innovators who would be nothing without all these great NY artists. 
I am aware of Adam Yauch Park

Oh and Woodie Guthrie got one too...long overdue

Edit...did a little more research...so not totally left out
(https://untappedcities-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/run-dmc-jmj-way-hollis-queens-street-sign.jpg)
 
I like this one the most

(https://untappedcities-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/joey-ramone-place-nyc-untapped-cities1.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on January 09, 2019, 09:20:37 pm
This article is not about Greta Van Fleet:

https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2019/01/greta-van-fleets-snl-booking-proves-the-shows-musi.html
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on January 09, 2019, 10:36:13 pm
It's been my guess for years that SNL's musical guests have been booked by Lorne Michaels' grandchildren.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on January 09, 2019, 10:38:06 pm
Talk about making a mountain out of a mole hill
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on January 10, 2019, 02:26:09 am
This article is not about Greta Van Fleet:

https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2019/01/greta-van-fleets-snl-booking-proves-the-shows-musi.html

yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on January 10, 2019, 06:30:18 pm
Masked Singer anyone?  I’m totally invested now, watched the first show or of curiosity due it’s popularity in South Korea.  Have a good guess on one from the first show and now a couple from the second show.  And totally got the one unmarked in the second show.  May or may not done some Twitter research on my guesses.. Don’t think we’ll need a separate thread for this one :p
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on January 10, 2019, 06:49:53 pm
It's Gene Ween.  They're all Gene Ween.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on January 10, 2019, 08:24:27 pm
Gene Ween does a mean Corey Feldman impersonation under that peacock costume
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 11, 2019, 09:05:24 am
Don’t think we’ll need a separate thread for this one :p
thank you for not spoiling the 'prestige television' thread

I watched the first one and wasn't that impressed...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on January 11, 2019, 10:13:33 am
Right now the judges/judging is the weak point of the show, they tend to be repetitive in their analysis and are way off in their guesses of who is behind the mask.  Kid Rock and JT are not going to be on this show.. Hopefully they will improve as the series goes on.  I’m getting the sense of which singers are going to be last standing which is going to keep my interest.  The Bee is one to watch for sure
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: challenged on January 14, 2019, 12:03:41 pm
this is a little old, but i didnt know about....

Funtimes http://the-toast.net/series/albums-in-which/    (http://the-toast.net/series/albums-in-which/)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on January 17, 2019, 11:58:57 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DxKguGlXcAgK7pf.jpg)

(source) (https://twitter.com/consequence/status/1086107175670480896)

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on January 18, 2019, 06:28:39 pm
Music & Erotics
University of Pittsburgh
22-23 February 2019 (http://www.music.pitt.edu/graduate/conference-music-and-erotics/conference-schedule)

4:00 - 6:00 — Dinner on your own

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 18, 2019, 06:58:23 pm
Music & Erotics
University of Pittsburgh
22-23 February 2019 (http://www.music.pitt.edu/graduate/conference-music-and-erotics/conference-schedule)

4:00 - 6:00 — Dinner on your own
that's the one you picked with such great sessions as:

Is this too gay? Reflections on “being musical,” heterormativity and why I just can’t think straight

Eroticizing Indigenous Femininity as a Strategy for Dis/locating Space and Time in Early Twentieth-Century Colombian Musical Indigenismo

“A Woman Who Has Never Been Satisfied”: Women of Color and Gendered Hierarchies in Hamilton: An American Musical


Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on January 18, 2019, 10:21:11 pm
I just thought it was peculiar. But if you're going to post highlights, how could you miss this: Touching, Rubbing, Stroking: Rehabilitation of the snare drum through queer erotics
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 19, 2019, 11:11:35 am
I just thought it was peculiar. But if you're going to post highlights, how could you miss this: Touching, Rubbing, Stroking: Rehabilitation of the snare drum through queer erotics
It was a contender, but felt I had to pick three
Although that one does pair well with
Quote
4:00 - 6:00 — Dinner on your own
;)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on January 26, 2019, 02:49:24 pm
"I don’t give a fuck about what any of you “experimental” musicians are doing anymore; you can pack it up if you’re not this guy:" (https://twitter.com/cruel_diagonals/status/1089228140449169408)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 21, 2019, 12:25:20 pm
today's google doodle is pretty darn cool
(https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/tgYvKDdjUmwU6iPoI0hNYl9d9gE=/0x0:1920x1080/1200x800/filters:focal(807x387:1113x693)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/63268647/box.0.png)

uses AI to generate music in the style of Johann Sebastian Bach

just add some notes and Voila!

The Doodle also includes some hidden surprises. Click the mini amplifier to the right of the keyboard to upgrade the instruments to ‘80s synths
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on March 21, 2019, 04:21:55 pm
^ i had way too much fun with that.  boss-man isn't going to be happy.  this is where i stopped: https://g.co/doodle/wcfa75 (https://g.co/doodle/wcfa75)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on March 26, 2019, 02:02:42 pm
Have you ever heard a song you liked so much you wished it would last forever?

Make it so. (https://medium.com/@metalex9/generating-more-of-my-favorite-aphex-twin-track-cde9b7ecda3a)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 11, 2019, 02:51:05 pm
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/57052318_10156233626948034_7071493189906989056_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=a3771a20e9dd895579db9a7a9710c11d&oe=5D4D0287)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 19, 2019, 09:22:15 am
Pink Floyd bandmates Roger Waters and Nick Mason  reunited to perform (https://consequenceofsound.net/2019/04/roger-waters-nick-mason-nyc-watch/?fbclid=IwAR1OJnxfTYih9tk_yk-71DZOsNHqUrdFeG-5st4LzyL_qEwma5JjbTH1DMI) “Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun" from the band's 1968 album, A Saucerful of Secrets.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 19, 2019, 09:45:36 am
well we don't have a comedy thread (we should) or I guess I could have put in the movie thread...

St. Vincent And Carrie Brownstein Are Making A Tour Comedy (https://www.stereogum.com/2040135/st-vincent-and-carrie-brownstein-are-making-a-tour-comedy/news/?fbclid=IwAR1gsGnqVXq_uBXoox86gddjP3PbrUtMpL8T7RfXT54L-bS91O79Ifl8-ys)

Right now, St. Vincent is producing a new album for Brownstein’s band Sleater-Kinney. And now they’re making a movie together, too.

Collider reports that Clark and Brownstein have co-written a concert film together. In the movie, which doesn’t yet have a title, Clark and Brownstein will play “heightened versions of themselves.” Brownstein is co-producing the movie with Jett Steiger and Lana Kim, and Bill Benz, a director and editor who’s worked on Portlandia is set to direct. According to an unnamed source at the studio, “the project isn’t a ‘mockumentary,’ as Collider first reported, but rather, a scripted film that was to have been shot like a documentary.” That sounds like a mockumentary!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 26, 2019, 10:54:53 pm
so I heard about this on the radio and was intrigued (BWT WERA low pow in arl is da bomb)

but this graphic seems off brand
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/56350699_2191007800991443_6209062386775621632_o.jpg?_nc_cat=108&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=db35046eedcfd1b5450230dd5bc93cbd&oe=5D333909)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on May 02, 2019, 02:50:37 pm
(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/58781477_2492379957461271_2431325177460555776_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-1.xx&oh=3d877819052cf9ac0bf9b416f2b53666&oe=5D2DB5C3)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on May 10, 2019, 01:14:34 pm
I mean, is My Bloody Valentine supposed to sound like that??
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on May 10, 2019, 02:28:05 pm
sounds like what?  did those EPs and/or the album finally drop?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 15, 2019, 12:50:08 pm
so Fugazi hasn't played since 2002...but yeah some billionair asks them to play the Cap One center and the totally will do it...very on brand for them

Ted Leonsis offers arena for Fugazi charity reunion (https://wtop.com/music/2019/05/ted-leonsis-offers-arena-for-fugazi-charity-reunion-ian-mackaye-responds/?fbclid=IwAR3v8TMGGyxowiBuX48tm5iJEb_ejuHPcN_MqJskMERw6I4rDiHrsC4SW1Q)

wait...Ian responds....
Contacted by WTOP about the tweet by Leonsis, MacKaye said, “I honestly don’t think it’s newsworthy.”

“My impression was that it was meant more as a compliment than an actual offer, so there really wasn’t anything to consider other than the kind words. They were appreciated,” MacKaye said in an email.

So wait...if Ted did give them the whole venue for free...would they do it for an all ages $5 show???



found this too...love hardtimes!
Martin Shkreli Buys Fugazi, Jacks Ticket Price Up to $9 (https://thehardtimes.net/news/martin-shkreli-buys-fugazi-jacks-ticket-price-up-to-9/?)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 23, 2019, 03:00:16 pm
so this was kind of the end for me with Soul Asylum, but really loved the story about Runaway Train and the actual impact it had on finding kids

on the 25th anny....
Music video for 'Runaway Train' turns 25. New version uses modern technology to find missing kids (https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/22/us/runaway-train-turns-25-trnd/index.html?)

The technology uses an individual's IP address to find out their general location. In the case of missing children, the video inserts the children that went missing closest to a viewer's area.



The original video helped recover 21 missing children, according to the NCMEC.

Even though the video only shows a handful of children, it was recut and released every time a child was found, resulting in multiple versions.


Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on May 23, 2019, 03:16:14 pm
so this was kind of the end for me with Soul Asylum, but really loved the story about Runaway Train and the actual impact it had on finding kids

on the 25th anny....
Music video for 'Runaway Train' turns 25. New version uses modern technology to find missing kids (https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/22/us/runaway-train-turns-25-trnd/index.html?)

The technology uses an individual's IP address to find out their general location. In the case of missing children, the video inserts the children that went missing closest to a viewer's area.



The original video helped recover 21 missing children, according to the NCMEC.

Even though the video only shows a handful of children, it was recut and released every time a child was found, resulting in multiple versions.

That is really cool. Soul Asylum, like, legitimately made the world a better place. Too bad they’ve never had a female member and therefore are monsters.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on May 23, 2019, 03:21:39 pm
Pirner is the nicest guy...probably my more meaningful conversation with a musician


Unlike Julian I don’t consider them monsters because they started in the very different world of the mid 80s

Now a band with 4 or 5 people in it put together today in 2019 without any women really wouldn’t seem perfect to me but, again, unlike Julian, I wouldn’t consider them monsters
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on May 23, 2019, 03:54:30 pm
I guess everyone just can't be a #Woke as me. #VirtueSignaling
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 23, 2019, 04:45:17 pm
this just sold for $22k!

(https://i1.wp.com/www.culledculture.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Screen-Shot-2019-05-23-at-1.40.02-PM.png?resize=844%2C642)

Cobain was eating pizza before a show at the 9:30 Club here in Washington on April 23, 1990. He needed something to write his setlist on, so he grabbed his pizza plate and wrote down the songs.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on May 23, 2019, 04:48:39 pm
this just sold for $22k!

(https://i1.wp.com/www.culledculture.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Screen-Shot-2019-05-23-at-1.40.02-PM.png?resize=844%2C642)

Cobain was eating pizza before a show at the 9:30 Club here in Washington on April 23, 1990. He needed something to write his setlist on, so he grabbed his pizza plate and wrote down the songs.

How cool...IMP should have bought it!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 23, 2019, 04:55:51 pm
hmm...somthing is fishy
as they played april 29th 1990 and the set list isn't quite the same

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/nirvana/1990/930-club-washington-dc-1bd67d60.html
who knows if this is accurate
but it is interesting to see how many  Nevermind songs in the setlist

the band traveled out to Vig's Smart Studios in Madison, Wisconsin, recording from April 2 to 6, 1990.[6] Most of the basic song arrangements were completed by that time, but Cobain was still working on lyrics and the band was unsure of which songs to record.[7] Ultimately, eight songs were recorded: "Immodium" (later renamed "Breed"), "Dive" (later released as the B-side to "Sliver"), "In Bloom", "Pay to Play" (eventually renamed "Stay Away" and given a new set of lyrics), "Sappy", "Lithium", "Here She Comes Now" (released on Velvet Underground Tribute Album: Heaven and Hell Volume 1), and "Polly".[8]
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on May 23, 2019, 06:21:06 pm
mmmmmkay.....

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7R-TGEWsAMd5WQ.jpg)

Best comment I saw: Whoever wrote this paper is DEFINITELY in a prog rock band

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 24, 2019, 02:34:41 pm
(https://i.makeagif.com/media/2-20-2016/eVW7F-.gif)
happy 78th Robert
may you stay forever young
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on May 24, 2019, 02:36:58 pm
Wow I knew it was somebody’s birthday
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on May 24, 2019, 06:47:39 pm
Wow I knew it was somebody’s birthday

I had assumed it was about 20M peoples' birthday.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on May 24, 2019, 06:53:01 pm
Wow I knew it was somebody’s birthday

I had assumed it was about 20M peoples' birthday.


Well yes but you can read the minds of tens of millions of people
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 05, 2019, 06:04:50 pm
18 hours of music from Radiohead’s OK Computer sessions have leaked online (https://consequenceofsound.net/2019/06/radiohead-ok-computer-leak-sessions-demos/)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on June 06, 2019, 09:39:34 pm
Opening line of son of famous rockstar band’s bio on Spotify

Hailing from Dublin, Inhaler are a four piece band who met while they were still at school.

I’m guessing that 3 of 4 get replaced soon and could it be more obvious of a Bio? 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on June 06, 2019, 10:28:14 pm
Opening line of son of famous rockstar band’s bio on Spotify

Hailing from Dublin, Inhaler are a four piece band who met while they were still at school.

I’m guessing that 3 of 4 get replaced soon and could it be more obvious of a Bio?
Lacks the requisite sunglasses and comic book hero names for members to be famous. Does contain the requisite dearth of quality songs in the last 30 years, though. 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on June 07, 2019, 07:52:47 am
Listened to son of famous rockstar band and yup singer’s voice resembles famous dad and the tunes are fairly generic Brit post punk inspired stuff.. certainly didn’t  knock my socks off
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 11, 2019, 12:28:59 pm
18 hours of music from Radiohead’s OK Computer sessions have leaked online (https://consequenceofsound.net/2019/06/radiohead-ok-computer-leak-sessions-demos/)

way to go radiohead...never negotiate with terroists
Radiohead officially release leaked OK Computer material after turning down $150,000 ransom (https://consequenceofsound.net/2019/06/radiohead-leaked-ok-computer-material/)

"For £18 you can find out if we should have paid that ransom"

Now, the band has officially released the leaked material through Bandcamp and is donating the proceeds to the climate activist group Extinction Rebellion.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on June 11, 2019, 01:04:54 pm
I swear to god...while running on the Mall today, in addition to a couple of girls in MAGA t-shirts and a boy in a MAGA t-shirt AND hat (just too hard to choose one!)...I saw a woman wearing a John Cafferty and the Beaver Brown Band t-shirt.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 11, 2019, 01:13:27 pm
I saw a woman wearing a John Cafferty and the Beaver Brown Band t-shirt.
nice!
still waiting for the release of A Season in Hell
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on June 11, 2019, 01:56:56 pm
The dark side, indeed.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on June 11, 2019, 02:06:02 pm
I swear to god...while running on the Mall today, in addition to a couple of girls in MAGA t-shirts and a boy in a MAGA t-shirt AND hat (just too hard to choose one!)...I saw a woman wearing a John Cafferty and the Beaver Brown Band t-shirt.

If they lose John, they could be my favorite band.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: gavroche on June 11, 2019, 03:10:47 pm
I swear to god...while running on the Mall today, in addition to a couple of girls in MAGA t-shirts and a boy in a MAGA t-shirt AND hat (just too hard to choose one!)...

Commuting by the Newseum in the morning is the absolute worst.  Every field trip seems to be packed with MAGA kids.  And of course the irony of wearing a MAGA hat into a museum about free press is totally lost on them.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 11, 2019, 03:34:00 pm
I swear to god...while running on the Mall today, in addition to a couple of girls in MAGA t-shirts and a boy in a MAGA t-shirt AND hat (just too hard to choose one!)...

Commuting by the Newseum in the morning is the absolute worst.  Every field trip seems to be packed with MAGA kids.  And of course the irony of wearing a MAGA hat into a museum about free press is totally lost on them.
the MAGA hat thing on these school trips is now a middle finger to the libtards that live in DC
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on June 11, 2019, 03:42:31 pm
I swear to god...while running on the Mall today, in addition to a couple of girls in MAGA t-shirts and a boy in a MAGA t-shirt AND hat (just too hard to choose one!)...

Commuting by the Newseum in the morning is the absolute worst.  Every field trip seems to be packed with MAGA kids.  And of course the irony of wearing a MAGA hat into a museum about free press is totally lost on them.
the MAGA hat thing on these school trips is now a middle finger to the libtards that live in DC

I'll show 'em! I'll wear my Obama t-shirt the next time I visit relatives in Indiana, South Carolina, or upstate New York! Give that middle finger right back!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: gavroche on June 11, 2019, 04:05:43 pm
I swear to god...while running on the Mall today, in addition to a couple of girls in MAGA t-shirts and a boy in a MAGA t-shirt AND hat (just too hard to choose one!)...

Commuting by the Newseum in the morning is the absolute worst.  Every field trip seems to be packed with MAGA kids.  And of course the irony of wearing a MAGA hat into a museum about free press is totally lost on them.
the MAGA hat thing on these school trips is now a middle finger to the libtards that live in DC

I don't think that 12 or 13 year olds are that politically aware, and especially not of the DC politics.  I think it's more a fashion fad that signals being within the "in" group much like a Starter jacket was when I was in middle school. 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on June 11, 2019, 04:13:35 pm
(https://i.dmarge.com/2017/02/brad.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 11, 2019, 04:44:55 pm
I think it's more a fashion fad that signals being within the "in" group much like a Starter jacket was when I was in middle school.
when I was in middle school....it was members only!
(http://www.liketotally80s.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/members-only.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on June 11, 2019, 04:53:06 pm
I think my dad wore a Members Only jacket right up until the day he died.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on June 12, 2019, 07:47:12 am
The whole story about all the Universal master tapes being destroyed in 2008 is a bit heartbreaking.  Lots and lots of history lost there.  As someone pointed out Universal never dived into their archives like so many others. It would appear that among other things Nevermind mastertapes along with loads of 60s, etc lost... I think Andy Partridge was eluding to some lost XTC masters and I wonder if these were them.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/11/magazine/universal-fire-master-recordings.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/11/magazine/universal-fire-master-recordings.html
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: vansmack on June 19, 2019, 04:47:22 pm
Perhaps I missed the conversation on this tweet from Dec 2108 (and if so, I apologize):

I Shot The Serif:
Artists and bands with names that sound like they could be fonts/ typefaces

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DvBMkQPXcAEhs50.jpg)

https://twitter.com/_Bands_FC/status/1076444503005904896

Apparently they're downloadable too!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 20, 2019, 08:37:33 am
kind of lazy that Husker du is on there twice...

but those are some cool fonts and will help me remember ones I like
as I am lame and Segoe UI all the time

Edit...it's only that image that is downloadable...not the fonts (as far as I can tell)
Bands F.C. Typefaces artwork. Available to download and print at (link: https://bandsfc.com/typefaces/) bandsfc.com/typefaces/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on June 21, 2019, 12:03:49 am

Quote
I Shot The Serif:
Artists and bands with names that sound like they could be fonts/ typefaces

what a lazy attempt at humor (is that even what they* are aiming for?)

first off, half of those would never be considered as names for fonts.  trent reznor?  big audio dynamite?  atari teenage riot?  please.

second, of the other half that actually sound like they could be fonts - it's because they ALREADY ARE a font:
- Bauhaus (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bauhaus_(typeface))
- Rammstein (https://www.dafont.com/rammstein.font)
- Berlin (https://www.1001fonts.com/berlin-font.html)
- Dion (https://www.dafont.com/dion.font)
- Blancmange (https://www.myfonts.com/fonts/cv-type/blancmange/)
- Pulp (https://www.fontspace.com/category/pulp) (technically a category/family of fonts)
- Hole (https://www.urbanfonts.com/fonts/HOLE.font)
- Rockwell (https://fonts.adobe.com/fonts/rockwell)
- Orbital (https://www.fonts.com/font/chank-company-the/orbital/regular)
- Bastille (https://www.urbanfonts.com/fonts/BASTILLE.font)
- Laibach (https://fontzone.net/font-details/laibach)
etc...

what's next?  "list of band that sound like a place: boston, alabama, chicago, berlin, phoenix, beirut, nazareth, ... - look at me!"

signed,
your friendly neighborhood font nazi

*they = the person(s) who created this list, not smackie.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 21, 2019, 08:28:42 am
signed,
your friendly neighborhood font nazi
My anecdotal experience is that font nazi's are much more fun to be around than grammar nazi's.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on August 05, 2019, 07:40:00 am
I came here to say that The Dead Weather's Sea of Cowards is a fine, fine album.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 05, 2019, 11:13:38 am
signed,
your friendly neighborhood font nazi
My anecdotal experience is that font nazi's are much more fun to be around than grammar nazi's.
here's a font you might like...probably make it impossible to read...but who reads anyway?
 A font created by your congressional districts. (https://theweek.com/speedreads/856423/someone-made-font-gerrymandered-congressional-districts)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EAKg4nsXUAEKMFJ?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on August 05, 2019, 12:53:10 pm
^ that is SO awesome
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 06, 2019, 05:31:06 pm
what table would you sit at...
I'd take 4...but definitely sit on the side furthest away from Chris Martin and hopefully Robert and Patti would be sitting on the opposite corners and would be throwing my pudding at the Moz
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/67877066_10157236505461648_4875212356872830976_n.png?_nc_cat=1&_nc_oc=AQkDFt9RAYS_j0ahiUTFsnjPHZY3Qae9gNpnWqa3-fREZbjkheBMCIqL4brv5E2XXzQ&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=bc6a2c28f7e1aff4e3e4794a928b5b23&oe=5DDEE214)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on August 06, 2019, 06:52:10 pm
the fanboy in me says 1.  however i fear that table would be somber and very serious.

the party boy in me says either 6 or 3.  you know those two tables will be rockin'.

sitting at table 1 will get you pantsed.  sitting at tables 3 or 6 will get you an invite to go smoke a joint behind the gym.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: vansmack on August 06, 2019, 07:36:27 pm
3
6
9
4
7
8
5
1
2
10
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 07, 2019, 09:01:25 am
Must not make a Columbine joke about table 10 . . . must not make a Columbine joke about table 10 . . . must not make . . .
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: K8teebug on August 07, 2019, 09:58:19 am
I want to hang with Lizzo.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: challenged on August 07, 2019, 11:16:01 am
Pharmakon
10/27
Metro Gallery

What's the best Pharmakon song, to get me into this.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: vansmack on August 07, 2019, 12:16:19 pm
I want to hang with Lizzo.

I had a tough time between 6 and 9, and assumed I'd be on to either one of them after about 10 minutes of 3.  I eventually opted for 6 because of Sir Paul....
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 07, 2019, 12:23:43 pm
3 sounds like an absolute disaster or a freaking fantastic time
I honestly think hanging with the Gallagher brothers would be a bore, but Kanye would be a total wild card
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: vansmack on August 07, 2019, 12:39:02 pm
3 sounds like an absolute disaster or a freaking fantastic time
I honestly think hanging with the Gallagher brothers would be a bore, but Kanye would be a total wild card

Yep.  3 is a total wild card and FOMO is why I chose it.

6 would be a good time, but I fear we'd all just be asking Sir Paul questions the entire time.

9 is the safest bet and you'd be guaranteed a good time.  I want to hang with Lizzo as much as Damon.

4 would be moody and melancholic, but I could learn a lot.

7 is a Beyonce and Adele love fest, both picking Frank's brain.  I could watch that all day...

8 and 5 were both "meh" to me, but I chose 8 over 5 just in case Plant decided to throw a punch at Jack White, just for being Jack White.  Greta Van Fleet alone wasn't enough to overcome the hope of that.

2 and 1 were the same table for me, and I probably would have chosen 2 over one but for Moz's descension in the last decade. I would have only wanted to ask him about a Smith's reunion, and frankly I'm not sure I want that to happen any longer.

10 I have zero interest.  It's bad enough being the one person at the table who's not in the band, but to be the one person at the table you're not a fanboy of?  Eesh.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 07, 2019, 12:46:19 pm
6 would be a good time, but I fear we'd all just be asking Sir Paul questions the entire time.
the problem with this table 6 is Grohl would never shut up and Homme would never say a word
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on August 07, 2019, 12:47:15 pm
I am too much of a fan to ignore the Robert Smith/Morrissey table but it does seem a bit dour
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on August 07, 2019, 12:58:55 pm
If there's not a table with Jeff Tweedy, Rhett Miller, and Neko Case, I'll just be over in the corner eating by myself....like I always was in junior high.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 07, 2019, 01:24:40 pm
Jules ...I think you need to update this with boardie names

(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/67877066_10157236505461648_4875212356872830976_n.png?_nc_cat=1&_nc_oc=AQkDFt9RAYS_j0ahiUTFsnjPHZY3Qae9gNpnWqa3-fREZbjkheBMCIqL4brv5E2XXzQ&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=bc6a2c28f7e1aff4e3e4794a928b5b23&oe=5DDEE214)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on August 07, 2019, 01:26:30 pm
Nice idea but you'd have one per table with a couple of empty tables.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 23, 2019, 09:40:21 am
On 40th anniversary of Knack’s No. 1 hit, the real Sharona speaks (https://wtop.com/music/2019/08/on-40th-anniversary-of-knacks-no-1-hit-the-real-sharona-on-fame-songs-longevity/?fbclid=IwAR3k6TjOKCdgSbYMbktZh84wpHG80RnrDTGMYVqtJ8O84lkZhaqn2S78wGA)
(https://wtop.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/SHARONA-COMP.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on August 23, 2019, 10:11:00 am
On 40th anniversary of Knack’s No. 1 hit, the real Sharona speaks (https://wtop.com/music/2019/08/on-40th-anniversary-of-knacks-no-1-hit-the-real-sharona-on-fame-songs-longevity/?fbclid=IwAR3k6TjOKCdgSbYMbktZh84wpHG80RnrDTGMYVqtJ8O84lkZhaqn2S78wGA)
(https://wtop.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/SHARONA-COMP.jpg)

Sexy woman
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: WALKonBack on August 23, 2019, 11:14:25 am
Need a laugh today?  Go check out the prices (resale especially) for Dead and Company, at Hampton.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: vansmack on August 23, 2019, 07:14:27 pm
Sexy woman

Wait.  So did they or didn't they?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on August 24, 2019, 03:52:00 pm
Music news so bizarre it belongs in the Onion thread (https://forum.930.com/index.php?topic=22097.msg490354#msg490354)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 25, 2019, 12:51:16 pm
Anyone want a free ticket to the alarm/modern English show at the state tonight...pm me
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 29, 2019, 04:13:46 pm
Foo Fighters "Let's sign a petition to get Oasis to reunite."

Noel Gallagher: "I'd like to start a petition to get Foo Fighters to split up."
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on August 31, 2019, 12:21:53 pm
A shitton of guitar effects pedals (https://www.sweetwater.com/insync/guinness-world-records-pedalboard/?utm_content=article1-button&utm_source=insync&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20190831-t1-aes)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on September 01, 2019, 08:09:51 pm
40-year-old unused TDK D-90s, $7.50 each (https://www.duplication.ca/tdk-d-90-high-output-normal-bias-cassette-tape.html)  :o
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: WALKonBack on September 01, 2019, 11:25:18 pm
Jay Reatard, is the single greatest, dead rock star, of all time.  Sorry,  Kurt.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on September 19, 2019, 08:32:51 pm
The Flute Vault of the United States (https://twitter.com/LibnOfCongress/status/1174777830951047168)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Bagley on September 27, 2019, 11:43:49 am
Earlier in the week as they reviewed her new book, the Post style section dubbed Patti Smith, the Godmother of Punk.  (Which I would agree with.  Horses is an incredible debut record.)

So, who's the Godfather??
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 27, 2019, 11:50:14 am
Iggy pop, dude
how is that even a question


And just in case people were not sure....The Reverend Horton Heat is the Godfather of  Psychobilly
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on September 27, 2019, 12:03:36 pm
Earlier in the week as they reviewed her new book, the Post style section dubbed Patti Smith, the Godmother of Punk.  (Which I would agree with.  Horses is an incredible debut record.)

So, who's the Godfather??

I'm torn between the one who married Cameron Diaz and the one who married Nicole Richie.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on September 27, 2019, 12:28:34 pm
Earlier in the week as they reviewed her new book, the Post style section dubbed Patti Smith, the Godmother of Punk.  (Which I would agree with.  Horses is an incredible debut record.)

So, who's the Godfather??

Billy Joe Armstrong
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 27, 2019, 12:39:09 pm
Earlier in the week as they reviewed her new book, the Post style section dubbed Patti Smith, the Godmother of Punk.  (Which I would agree with.  Horses is an incredible debut record.)

So, who's the Godfather??

Billy Joe Armstrong
he's the twerp nephew at best
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on September 27, 2019, 12:43:48 pm
Earlier in the week as they reviewed her new book, the Post style section dubbed Patti Smith, the Godmother of Punk.  (Which I would agree with.  Horses is an incredible debut record.)

So, who's the Godfather??

Billy Joe Armstrong
he's the twerp nephew at best

Pfffft...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on September 27, 2019, 12:51:37 pm
Sometimes kids say things that bring tears to your eyes.

The other day my kid asked me if I would teach her about music, specifically rock music.

Where does one even start? Anybody know of a book that would appeal to a 12 year old?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 27, 2019, 01:00:01 pm
Anybody know of a book that would appeal to a 12 year old?
(https://i.etsystatic.com/12314553/r/il/054cbf/1952417180/il_794xN.1952417180_1mxg.jpg)
oh wait you didn't say a book about an appealing 12yr old

I will say there is really no way to read about rock and roll...ya gotta listen to it man
William J said it best "there's a new band in town, but you can't get the sound from a story in a magazine"
almost have to start off with 'how do you define rock and roll and what era/type are you interested in'

but when I was about this age...this book changed my life...for realz
(https://img.thriftbooks.com/api/images/l/ccb13f0d7435fcaaef4fbeb0f31f0cfb9907e227.jpg)
although this is filled with a fuck-ton of inappropriate and definitely illegal activity
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on September 27, 2019, 01:46:59 pm
Buy all of these:

https://everyrecordtellsastory.com/2013/09/07/pete-frames-rock-family-trees-an-exhibition/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on September 27, 2019, 05:07:36 pm
https://www.stereogum.com/2059643/snoop-dogg-covers-nick-cave-red-right-hand-peaky-blinders/music/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 28, 2019, 02:08:13 pm
Sometimes kids say things that bring tears to your eyes.
Literally hadn’t even scanned to the left to see the name of who posted and I just knew.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: twangirl on September 29, 2019, 04:52:31 pm
Iggy pop, dude
how is that even a question


And just in case people were not sure....The Reverend Horton Heat is the Godfather of  Psychobilly

NO. Lux Interior is the Godfather of Psychobilly. I think The Rev would agree.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on September 29, 2019, 05:19:21 pm
Sometimes kids say things that bring tears to your eyes.
Literally hadn’t even scanned to the left to see the name of who posted and I just knew.

Sorry, I got a little excited. Two days later she said she didn't care anymore.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 30, 2019, 06:45:41 am
Iggy pop, dude
how is that even a question


And just in case people were not sure....The Reverend Horton Heat is the Godfather of  Psychobilly

NO. Lux Interior is the Godfather of Psychobilly. I think The Rev would agree.
Actually, pretty hard to argue that
The rev was self designated...so that was questionable to begin with
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 30, 2019, 02:28:19 pm
Kayne states: he will only be releasing gospel music going forward.
bet's on how long this lasts...6 months?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: bearman🐻 on September 30, 2019, 02:56:21 pm
Anyone know who the band is at the beginning of this Pretenders video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hONtmFgh3IQ
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on September 30, 2019, 03:06:30 pm
Got to be the Polecats (Boz Boorer’s band)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on October 01, 2019, 01:33:25 am
Kayne states: he will only be releasing gospel music going forward.

he's still going to rap over it, right?  so is it still really gospel?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 21, 2019, 12:02:39 pm
Word of the Day: Anodyne
...nice!

My reco...If you are a fan of wilco and not heard Uncle Tupleo's Anodyne
drop everything and do that today.  one of my favorite's in the last 3 decades
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on October 23, 2019, 09:27:54 am
I saw white guys trying to kill Mother Nature...


Wooof.

Up there with the other most cringe worthy line of, "don't want my mp3s!"
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 29, 2019, 12:10:49 pm
signed,
your friendly neighborhood font nazi
My anecdotal experience is that font nazi's are much more fun to be around than grammar nazi's.
Introducing : HELLvetica. Like helvetica, but with like, much shittier kerning for Halloween. Download it at http://Hellveticafont.com !
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EH-eBY2XYAAUXl7?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on October 29, 2019, 12:53:24 pm
^ pure horror.  my eyes are bleeeeeeeeding...

(definitely lol'ed @ "kern in hell")
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on October 29, 2019, 01:51:40 pm
"Closed on Sunday, you my Chick-fil-A
You're my number one, with the lemonade"- Kanye West.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 29, 2019, 02:11:35 pm
"Closed on Sunday, you my Chick-fil-A
You're my number one, with the lemonade"- Kanye West.
“God is using me to show off. Last year I made $115 million and still ended up $35 million in debt. This year I looked up and I just got $68 million returned to me on my tax returns.” -Kanye West
not a joke!

whoa...donny Jr is promoting this and turns it into a dig on democrats

@DonaldJTrumpJr
Kanye West is cracking the culture code.
@kanyewest’s new album #JesusIsKing is the epitome of fearless creativity and “dangerous, unapproved” ideas.
Leftists always try to silence those who are speaking truth. They’re waging a war on our family and culture.
Kanye is a pioneer
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 29, 2019, 03:21:21 pm
who said it: Kanye or Bob Dylan!

https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/hip-hop/8541106/kanye-west-or-bob-dylan-quiz
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on November 14, 2019, 06:53:48 pm
(https://i.ibb.co/X5VbV3d/milhaud-rucker.jpg)

Source: composers doing normal shit @NormalComposers (https://twitter.com/NormalComposers/status/1195004253565267968)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on November 16, 2019, 01:27:41 am
Unclear Which Beach House Song This Is, Reports Lead Singer Of Beach House (https://www.theonion.com/unclear-which-beach-house-song-this-is-reports-lead-si-1839897300)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 21, 2019, 02:14:45 pm
signed,
your friendly neighborhood font nazi
My anecdotal experience is that font nazi's are much more fun to be around than grammar nazi's.
ok...maybe we do need to start a Font-nazi thread (maybe a good band name too)

Donald Trump’s Crazy Handwriting Is Now A Free Font Called Tiny Hand (https://www.fastcompany.com/3064790/donald-trumps-crazy-handwriting-is-now-a-free-font-called-tiny-hand?fbclid=IwAR00p_gbX3fMQXrIWbbDafyTMaVgnFB0Ggsl9qSFGWcyEpFAWheXdpK0RPg)
(https://images.fastcompany.net/image/upload/w_596,c_limit,q_auto:best,f_auto/fc/3064790-inline-i-1-buzzfeed-has-created-a-new-font-based-on-donald-trumps-crazy-handwriting.jpg)


Here it is: tiny hand font
https://www.dropbox.com/s/irvgp4813izfbso/BFTinyHand-Regular.zip
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on December 02, 2019, 02:23:28 pm
To be fair, does anybody really know who Van Halen is?


"Billie Eilish reveals she doesn't know who Van Halen are" https://twitter.com/i/events/1201530635262689280
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on December 04, 2019, 10:19:02 pm
(https://i.ibb.co/VV79M3w/research.jpg)

Consumer feedback 1992

h/t @Chris__Richards
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on December 06, 2019, 12:52:27 am
(https://toledocitypaper.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/120419_JeffNelson_0371_KMiller-683x1024.jpg) (https://toledocitypaper.com/feature/minor-threats-and-jeep-thrills/)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: WALKonBack on December 06, 2019, 09:46:30 am
Im, pretty sure, that guy looks like every person, here.  Are there any guys, under 35 here?  Jesus, is it nap time yet, or does pbs have new special on, that has to be watched.

Hey, I hear, Jeopardy was on fire last night.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on December 06, 2019, 10:01:56 am
Few things as annoying as jokes about getting old or bald! Who gives a shit..
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on December 06, 2019, 10:06:58 am
Im, pretty sure, that guy looks like every person, here.  Are there any guys, under 35 here?  Jesus, is it nap time yet, or does pbs have new special on, that has to be watched.

Hey, I hear, Jeopardy was on fire last night.

I'll admit, I am fatter than that guy.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on December 06, 2019, 10:11:24 am
(https://toledocitypaper.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/120419_JeffNelson_0371_KMiller-683x1024.jpg) (https://toledocitypaper.com/feature/minor-threats-and-jeep-thrills/)
Someone with photoshop skills change those to 7"s and throw Hutch's head on that dude.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on December 06, 2019, 10:11:48 am
Are there any guys, under 3537 here?
Yes.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on December 06, 2019, 10:14:43 am
Wrong!!

I wish my stuff was organized
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 06, 2019, 10:27:52 am
Im, pretty sure, that guy looks like every person, here.
cept most of us here weren't part of one of the most influential dc bands and labels
(https://dyscolusdotcom.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/ianjeffdischordhouseapril28th2015.jpg)
seems odd to collect old candy, but everyone has their 'thing'
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on December 06, 2019, 12:55:39 pm
(https://img.discogs.com/wtgfrGhDOxBq9zsN1PcoUOyOuHY=/fit-in/600x603/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-408661-1229730408.jpeg.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on December 06, 2019, 02:57:12 pm
Are there any guys, under 353751?
Yes.

Yes.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 09, 2019, 10:13:37 am
(https://www.esquireme.com/sites/default/files/styles/full_img/public/images/2019/12/09/Kanye-West-Silver-Suit-Mary-Opera-%282%29.jpg?itok=RfK8_DSS)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on December 09, 2019, 10:38:50 am
(https://www.esquireme.com/sites/default/files/styles/full_img/public/images/2019/12/09/Kanye-West-Silver-Suit-Mary-Opera-%282%29.jpg?itok=RfK8_DSS)
To be fair, this is moreso sartorial fodder than musicological.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on December 09, 2019, 12:09:52 pm
New thread?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on December 09, 2019, 02:08:25 pm
(https://www.esquireme.com/sites/default/files/styles/full_img/public/images/2019/12/09/Kanye-West-Silver-Suit-Mary-Opera-%282%29.jpg?itok=RfK8_DSS)
To be fair, this is moreso sartorial fodder than musicological.

New thread?

here ya go, since we tend to discuss everything except music anyways...

bitching about other people's clothing = a land-grab on julian's america??
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on December 09, 2019, 02:33:44 pm
bitching about other people's clothing = a land-grab on julian's america??
Totally JA territory.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on December 09, 2019, 03:16:34 pm
^ either i'm high on life, or someone is playing tricks on me (someone = moderator?).  i'm positive i threw my previous post into a new thread.  dammit.  maybe i'm just old.


off to correct.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on December 11, 2019, 09:39:27 pm
"O Holy Night" is a terrible song that tries too hard.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: vansmack on December 12, 2019, 04:31:54 pm
Kesha, featuring Brian Wilson and Sturgill Simpson:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJ2iBrXVkRY
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on December 15, 2019, 08:03:47 pm
Unlucky Dischord Records Intern Draws Ian MacKaye for Office Secret Santa (https://twitter.com/REALpunknews/status/1206363321299017733)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on December 15, 2019, 10:33:33 pm
Unlucky Dischord Records Intern Draws Ian MacKaye for Office Secret Santa (https://twitter.com/REALpunknews/status/1206363321299017733)

He could give Ian a new semi-talented 25 year old girlfriend that he could trade in the old one for and form a lame duet with.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on December 19, 2019, 09:33:29 pm
An effort is under way to get Jarvis Cockers decade old song “Running The World” to the number one spot on the UK charts for Christmas. Due to the lyric being “C*unts Are Still Running The World”

http://www.brooklynvegan.com/jarvis-cocker-shares-new-version-of-cnts-are-still-running-the-world/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on January 07, 2020, 03:27:53 pm
Anyone catch footage of Beck/St. Vincent fronting Nirvana over the weekend... was kinda awesome.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on January 07, 2020, 03:39:03 pm
also... rumors appear to be locked that pearl jam will be in bawlmoor in March.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: WALKonBack on January 07, 2020, 11:09:32 pm
Anyone catch footage of Beck/St. Vincent fronting Nirvana over the weekend... was kinda awesome.

No.  Can't wait to see.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: WALKonBack on January 07, 2020, 11:10:08 pm
also... rumors appear to be locked that pearl jam will be in bawlmoor in March.

No.  Fuck that.  No one ordered that, from Amazon.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 09, 2020, 02:19:00 pm
Tommy Stinson
Yesterday at 12:27 PM ·

Here we go again! Tommy solo, east coast. Looking for living rooms, art galleries, churches, bookstores, barber shops, any sort of oddball space with a 50-60 cap, we sell our own tickets. From Baltimore down into Florida. Thank you in advance for any ideas!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on January 09, 2020, 05:09:20 pm
Tommy Stinson
Yesterday at 12:27 PM ·

Here we go again! Tommy solo, east coast. Looking for living rooms, art galleries, churches, bookstores, barber shops, any sort of oddball space with a 50-60 cap, we sell our own tickets. From Baltimore down into Florida. Thank you in advance for any ideas!
I love the Replacements, Perfect, and Bash & Pop. But I have seen Stinson's solo stuff several times in the last few years, and I could not care for it AT ALL.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: vansmack on January 09, 2020, 05:13:16 pm
I clicked this thread thinking for sure Julian was going to report Bieber's Lyme disease...

And then I was going to ask the question about Canadian Pop Stars and Lyme disease.

And then Sweetcell was provide some link to some bullshit Maple Rag about why Canadians have a higher propensity to get Lyme disease because they're so much nicer than everyone else....

But alas, that's not what Jules posted. 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 09, 2020, 05:14:46 pm
Tommy Stinson
Yesterday at 12:27 PM ·

Here we go again! Tommy solo, east coast. Looking for living rooms, art galleries, churches, bookstores, barber shops, any sort of oddball space with a 50-60 cap, we sell our own tickets. From Baltimore down into Florida. Thank you in advance for any ideas!
I love the Replacements, Perfect, and Bash & Pop. But I have seen Stinson's solo stuff several times in the last few years, and I could not care for it AT ALL.
yeah, not sure who he opened up for at the 930 ...but I did think it was meh
Although did meet him post show at close bar and got to shake his hand and say thanks for the music
still would be cool to have him at a house party
wonder what he charges -$5k?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: challenged on January 09, 2020, 05:33:55 pm
Tommy Stinson
Yesterday at 12:27 PM ·

Here we go again! Tommy solo, east coast. Looking for living rooms, art galleries, churches, bookstores, barber shops, any sort of oddball space with a 50-60 cap, we sell our own tickets. From Baltimore down into Florida. Thank you in advance for any ideas!
I love the Replacements, Perfect, and Bash & Pop. But I have seen Stinson's solo stuff several times in the last few years, and I could not care for it AT ALL.
yeah, not sure who he opened up for at the 930 ...but I did think it was meh
Although did meet him post show at close bar and got to shake his hand and say thanks for the music
still would be cool to have him at a house party
wonder what he charges -$5k?

He opened for Los Leomonheads. 
I am hoping this show comes through my favorite house concert venue in Baltimore.
I am guessing less than $5k, because these sorts of venues dont typically have any way to make money on a booze, so ticket sales are it.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on January 09, 2020, 05:36:20 pm
I clicked this thread thinking for sure Julian was going to report Bieber's Lyme disease...

And then I was going to ask the question about Canadian Pop Stars and Lyme disease.

And then Sweetcell was provide some link to some bullshit Maple Rag about why Canadians have a higher propensity to get Lyme disease because they're so much nicer than everyone else....

i've had lyme disease, and i'm canadian.  i'm not a pop star, ergo, i'm a nice guy.

logic, bitches!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 15, 2020, 10:19:04 am
glad to hear Marc Bolan is finally getting into the RRHOF

not really sure Depech Mode is all that tho...
that video of 'just can't get enough' with the whole band playing keyboards blew my young mind at the time (now I know...kraftwork)
We did joke that it would be a great erectile dysfunction ad song before ED became a thing

all the other picks are deserving IMO
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on January 15, 2020, 11:03:16 am
DM not “all that”? Okee dokee

I wonder if Vince Clarke would get in with them? He was only on first LP but I think he wrote most of it including Just Can’t Get Enough but then went on to Yazoo and Erasure.

I think even if it’s not your cup of tea DM where pretty crucial mainstreaming synth pop...

The Pet Shop Boys is the tough one for me...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 15, 2020, 11:07:39 am
I actually like DM, just don't think they are RRHOF material is all...but obviously I'm in the minority
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on January 15, 2020, 11:27:24 am
I actually like DM, just don't think they are RRHOF material is all...but obviously I'm in the minority
That's kind of an insane take. They're highly influential, sold over 100 million records, had a style that merged multiple types of music in a way that continues to get copied 40 years later, had hits in three decades, and continue to sell out enormodomes in year 40 of their existence.

The RNR HoF is stupid for not having them in there already. [EDIT: The RNR HoF is dumb regardless.] (And I'm far from a DM fanboy.)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: StoneTheCrow on January 15, 2020, 11:46:46 am
The RNR HoF is stupid

Amazingly stupid, in fact.

The only act I’d potentially quibble about is Biggie. His first album is nothing short of amazing. I think the follow up is held in high regard primarily given the circumstances of its release. That doesn’t seem worthy but I suppose is more than worthy for this BS.

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 15, 2020, 11:48:13 am
The RNR HoF is stupid

Amazingly stupid, in fact.
This we can all agree on
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on January 15, 2020, 11:52:23 am
Not DM, but amazing



https://www.instagram.com/p/B7R_y_IloZb/?igshid=f4z1zf3c5hao
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on January 15, 2020, 12:19:09 pm
Not all of the nominees seem like rock-n-roll performers.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on January 20, 2020, 11:37:02 am
Nope

http://www.slicingupeyeballs.com/2020/01/20/vince-clarke-depeche-mode-rock-hall-fame/?fbclid=IwAR2EvtPKbFOAcCdYvzEvUJi5M8f7YP0j6faPiNQE7_Ag5EgJtL6Gu9_k9Nw
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 20, 2020, 11:46:52 am
Nope

http://www.slicingupeyeballs.com/2020/01/20/vince-clarke-depeche-mode-rock-hall-fame/?fbclid=IwAR2EvtPKbFOAcCdYvzEvUJi5M8f7YP0j6faPiNQE7_Ag5EgJtL6Gu9_k9Nw

They deserve all of the credit. All I did was started the band
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on February 25, 2020, 08:49:46 am
Sturgill sounding positive...

https://uproxx.com/indie/sturgill-simpson-interview-sound-and-fury-tour/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on February 25, 2020, 09:47:57 am
Sturgill sounding positive...

https://uproxx.com/indie/sturgill-simpson-interview-sound-and-fury-tour/

They guy that wrote that calls himself a "cultural critic." Hopefully, we'll soon see him interview Frank Turner.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 25, 2020, 09:56:10 am
Sturgill sounding positive...

https://uproxx.com/indie/sturgill-simpson-interview-sound-and-fury-tour/

They guy that wrote that calls himself a "cultural critic." Hopefully, we'll soon see him interview Frank Turner.
Then Chris Stapleton. Then he can write his manifesto, Milquetoast: The Unexplored Culture.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on February 25, 2020, 09:57:03 am
Sturgill sounding positive...

https://uproxx.com/indie/sturgill-simpson-interview-sound-and-fury-tour/

They guy that wrote that calls himself a "cultural critic." Hopefully, we'll soon see him interview Frank Turner.
Then Chris Stapleton. Then he can write his manifesto, Milquetoast: The Unexplored Culture.

You misspelled Frank Terner
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: vansmack on February 25, 2020, 08:52:57 pm
Sturgill sounding positive...

https://uproxx.com/indie/sturgill-simpson-interview-sound-and-fury-tour/

Uproxx is owned by Warner Music group, who also owns Sturgill's label, Elektra, so take that article and it's contents as an advertisement.  At best.

I'm not saying he's the most positive person ever, but that was over the top fakery.

This trip down memory lane with the Trillbilly Workers Party podcast (https://soundcloud.com/user-972848621-463073718/unlocked-premium-88-screwy-stuey-the-6-million-man-do-gatlinburg-w-special-guest-sturgill-simpson) seemed much more genuine.

We got up with Sturgill Simpson to talk Jam Bands, Work, Bernie Sanders, Gatlinburg, The Music Business, Leaf Hound Melting Motherfuckers' Faces Off, Canonball Run, Caleb Landry Jones, Jim Jarmusch, The Monkees, Kanye West playing Pigeon Forge and Running for President, his upcoming tour, and much much more.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on February 25, 2020, 10:15:30 pm
Just loving the new GBV (Surrender your poppy field)


I go through phases with these guys but this is probably my biggest since the 1994-1995 heyday


I mean Queen Parking Lot is as good as anything they have done
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on February 27, 2020, 03:39:26 am
oh, we've gone stealth!!!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on April 28, 2020, 08:19:36 pm
I've decided that Tune-Yards is a poor man's Dirty Projectors, and Dirty Projectors gets me about 90% to Adult Jazz, if anyone was wondering.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 29, 2020, 09:00:23 pm
in AC/DC news that might have gotten missed....
in February 2020, Dee Snider revealed that he and  Brian Johnson has confirmed that he is once again working with the band, and that they are recording a new album. Recordings from the early 2000s, of Malcolm Young will be used for the album. Additionally, Phil Rudd and Cliff Williams will be a part of the album as drummer and bassist, respectively
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on April 29, 2020, 10:24:47 pm
We will get an album when and if Angus wants it

It’s been about two years maybe more since they all met in Vancouver so...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: WALKonBack on April 30, 2020, 05:44:56 pm
New L7, is making up for that last album.

Fuck, yeah.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on May 12, 2020, 07:55:17 pm
Sorry if this was posted elsewhere already. Story by Dave. I couldn't name you a single Foo Fighters song, but I still love this guy and so awesome to live in his hometown. I wonder if he had an above ground pool.

https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2020/05/dave-grohl-irreplaceable-thrill-rock-show/611113/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on May 20, 2020, 03:50:55 pm
Because I work in an office full of nerds, one 70-ish co-worker has beer sending around little surveys for us to answer and discuss during weekly video chats.

Today, part of the poll has two separate questions.

1. Who is your favorite musician?
2. Who is your favorite singer?

I asked him to differentiate between a musician and a singer, and here is the reply:

Musicians are noted for playing instruments, not singing.   They might occasionally help with backup singing, but rarely, if ever, a solo. 


I am confused, because most of my favorite musicians are singers. And most of my favorite singers play instruments.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on May 20, 2020, 04:05:18 pm
All my favorite singers couldn’t sing.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on May 21, 2020, 12:08:42 am
A newly released pic of Robert Johnson


Only the third!!!

https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2020/05/exclusive-first-look-at-new-photograph-of-blues-legend-robert-johnson?fbclid=IwAR0YyRKDNIWWW5SXs9QyGjgx_fdw21EBIoPpIi0vOU-VAoIRpufucaZ1LYc
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on May 21, 2020, 11:57:24 am
A newly released pic of Robert Johnson


Only the third!!!

https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2020/05/exclusive-first-look-at-new-photograph-of-blues-legend-robert-johnson?fbclid=IwAR0YyRKDNIWWW5SXs9QyGjgx_fdw21EBIoPpIi0vOU-VAoIRpufucaZ1LYc

Would you call him a singer or a musician?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: WALKonBack on May 22, 2020, 10:29:44 pm
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/roddy-bottum-man-on-man-daddy-boyfriend-joey-holman-1003897/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Faith No More, created every,thing.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on July 09, 2020, 09:55:36 pm
Got a MacBook Pro w/ Touch Bar?  Play it! (http://samplr.net/touchbar/)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on July 10, 2020, 07:54:16 am
Interesting

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/talking-heads-drummer-chris-frantz-memoir-david-byrne-reunion-odds-1023773/?fbclid=IwAR1W5aC44HIMWju0shgn2YY1xUU8MOxFj_VNTUiiU7PPa000PffhFdRiPTk
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on July 10, 2020, 07:58:38 am
Anybody understand how this works? Even Neil Young says Trump legally has right to use his songs!? How can it be that a Trump licenses these songs without Neil’s approval?

https://www.wusa9.com/mobile/article/news/nation-world/neil-young-upset-trump-used-his-songs-at-mount-rushmore-event/507-9dc601c0-b229-4ee8-9778-12e95be7a2c2
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on July 10, 2020, 08:12:49 am
Anybody understand how this works? Even Neil Young says Trump legally has right to use his songs!? How can it be that a Trump licenses these songs without Neil’s approval?

https://www.wusa9.com/mobile/article/news/nation-world/neil-young-upset-trump-used-his-songs-at-mount-rushmore-event/507-9dc601c0-b229-4ee8-9778-12e95be7a2c2

My guess would be that if the venue that's being used has a blanket song licensing agreement than any song covered by that is fair game.  it's also possible campaigns are paying for their own blanket song licensing agreements... 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on July 10, 2020, 08:21:21 am
The venue licenses songs? And gets to play them on TV for tens of millions of people?

There is a venue in North Dakota at Mt Rushmore?


And he is always using You can’t always get what you want...every venue he speaks at has licensed this song?

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on July 10, 2020, 08:34:52 am
Yes most music venues, etc pay a blanket fee to songwriting orgs in order to covered for any song used there.  They don't have to report what is specifically played and supposedly royalties are spread out to all songwriters.

Would think that any broadcast network is going to have the same arrangement.

https://www.ascap.com/music-users/types/bgt-landing-page-2?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIwdKgiNjC6gIVlq_ICh3XDgKqEAAYASAAEgJ45fD_BwE 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on July 10, 2020, 08:52:59 am
Well I had no idea..that explains a lot

Thanks
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on July 10, 2020, 09:13:03 am
It's also why you'll hear certain radio stations in places like doctor's office, although I'm not sure how prevalent this is anymore... but certain stations provide a service where  a business can broadcast it and not run a foul of the licensing org as the station pays the fees and pass along costs to businesses.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 10, 2020, 09:31:51 am
You know what is an odd music royalty issue...hold music
I had a client years ago who wanted to play the Eagles Greatest Hits (against my critical advise mind you) on his hold music and he was willing to pay to be legit

Apparently this is next to impossible to do legally with the system we had, so royalty-free crap was all we could use
that's why you so often hear classical music...lots of royalty-free stuff out there

Not even supposed to play the radio...The current fine for playing radio music on hold is $1,500
 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 10, 2020, 09:34:03 am
It's also why you'll hear certain radio stations in places like doctor's office, although I'm not sure how prevalent this is anymore... but certain stations provide a service where  a business can broadcast it and not run a foul of the licensing org as the station pays the fees and pass along costs to businesses.
I'd bet 9 times out of 10 they are breaking a law they didn't realize exists
Services like Musak were invented for this type of stuff
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on July 10, 2020, 09:40:36 am
It's also why you'll hear certain radio stations in places like doctor's office, although I'm not sure how prevalent this is anymore... but certain stations provide a service where  a business can broadcast it and not run a foul of the licensing org as the station pays the fees and pass along costs to businesses.
I'd bet 9 times out of 10 they are breaking a law they didn't realize exists
Services like Musak were invented for this type of stuff

yup was thinking of muzak, but radio stations were doing this as a alternative to muzak... would guess spotify, etc have similar services at this point. 

not sure how much enforcement is done at the non music related businesses, but you will hear of a bar, etc that runs afoul of every once in awhile..
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 13, 2020, 02:18:47 pm
Anyone looking for someone to teach them how to play bass?

(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/109142355_10224197867643179_6447676613230703306_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&_nc_sid=825194&_nc_ohc=3xdeM4L7l-MAX8H535E&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=8154da9341f9a7a85f27aa59cff79ee2&oe=5F322DB8)
https://www.instagram.com/joelally898/

Not 100% sure this is real
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on July 13, 2020, 02:36:00 pm
I mean, that looks like a legit bass to me.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on July 13, 2020, 02:42:53 pm
I am FB friends with Joe...someone posted the ad and Joe hasn’t taken it down...he does participate on his FB so I think it’s totally legit

I think it would be great fun to take lessons from him...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 13, 2020, 03:03:30 pm
See this is good use of your time in quarantine

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EclBqgBXsAEwKq4?format=jpg&name=large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EclBsr4WoAAWeHD?format=jpg&name=large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EclBpy4XoAA1FVg?format=jpg&name=large)

https://consequenceofsound.net/2020/07/seniors-recreate-classic-album-covers/?fbclid=IwAR3mxOjgvu6LGapxJGd4oaSsaKVzZLtbbh1fvH-9M7n1hiqmeBdxHYJQIY4
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on July 18, 2020, 09:27:14 am
This critic has been waiting his whole life to use this line....

https://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/music/ct-ent-the-pretenders-hate-for-sale-review-20200715-f3oa67bfubhhhb2eciwemm23cm-story.html

Review: Hynde-sight is 2020 for the Pretenders’ ‘Hate for Sale’





Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on July 18, 2020, 09:43:06 am
Wow I need to get it
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 18, 2020, 09:43:31 am
That's a headline worth waiting decades to deliver!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 22, 2020, 11:38:26 am
The Rolling Stones Share Long Lost Jimmy Page Collaboration “Scarlet”
The previously unheard track dates back to 1974  (https://consequenceofsound.net/2020/07/rolling-stones-jimmy-page-scarlett-stream/)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on July 28, 2020, 04:05:37 pm
The Hood Internet takes 50 songs from each year from 1979 to 1989, and mashes them together to create 10 supercuts.  Much to the delight and derision of the internet.

https://www.thehoodinternet.com/#/79-89/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on July 28, 2020, 04:09:03 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EeCcysZXgAU0Cbv?format=png&name=4096x4096) (https://twitter.com/BruceLevenstein/status/1288201920000163841)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on August 05, 2020, 01:04:28 pm
was poking around the princevault.com website at those last few Prince albums released and discovered the Lizzo did the rap on BOYTROUBLE track on the Plectrumelectrum album done with 3rdEyeGirl

it's a actually a killer track funk track..
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on August 27, 2020, 07:30:12 am
Here's the music listicule sure to be making the rounds today... never heard the term landfill indie before or of some of the bands on the list but i guess that's part of the point of the list.. and some of these bands have done twitter listening parties recently so there is staying power of sorts

Little Man Tate is probably my most favorite group listed here

https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/bv8a8w/the-top-50-greatest-landfill-indie-songs-of-all-time
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on August 27, 2020, 07:40:42 am
Here's the music listicule sure to be making the rounds today... never heard the term landfill indie before or of some of the bands on the list but i guess that's part of the point of the list.. and some of these bands have done twitter listening parties recently so there is staying power of sorts

Little Man Tate is probably my most favorite group listed here

https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/bv8a8w/the-top-50-greatest-landfill-indie-songs-of-all-time

Seriously, anyone here every heard of the band Cajun Dance Party

funnily enough the forum was probably at it's peak during this time period
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 27, 2020, 07:43:25 am
Arctic Monkeys, Maximo Park, Editors, and Zutons hold up off this. Weird that those four are included but Franz Ferdinand is excluded for being “too art rock.” Uh ok.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on August 27, 2020, 07:56:16 am
Arctic Monkeys, Maximo Park, Editors, and Zutons hold up off this. Weird that those four are included but Franz Ferdinand is excluded for being “too art rock.” Uh ok.

my guess is if Franz had broken up after a couple albums they'd make the list, but over the course of their career  their sound has evolved...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 27, 2020, 08:21:10 am
Arctic Monkeys, Maximo Park, Editors, and Zutons hold up off this. Weird that those four are included but Franz Ferdinand is excluded for being “too art rock.” Uh ok.

my guess is if Franz had broken up after a couple albums they'd make the list, but over the course of their career  their sound has evolved...
Couldn’t you say the same about Arctic Monkeys?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on August 27, 2020, 08:45:45 am
Arctic Monkeys, Maximo Park, Editors, and Zutons hold up off this. Weird that those four are included but Franz Ferdinand is excluded for being “too art rock.” Uh ok.

my guess is if Franz had broken up after a couple albums they'd make the list, but over the course of their career  their sound has evolved...
Couldn’t you say the same about Arctic Monkeys?

I've honestly never listened to Arctic Monkeys so no point of reference
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 27, 2020, 08:51:55 am
I was surprised by how many of these bands I had never even heard of
Although, that's an era I started having kids, so there are big gaps in hearing new music and seeing shows
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on August 27, 2020, 09:46:20 am
I've never heard of these groups on that list

Pete and the Pirates
Guillemots
Les Incompétents
Good Shoes
Cajun Dance Party
Jack Peñate
Morning Runner
The Others
GoodBooks
Bromheads Jacket
The Automatic
Wolfman ft. Pete Doherty
Joe Lean & The Jing Jang Jong
Milburn
The View
The Enemy
Mumm-Ra
The Ordinary Boys
Larrikin Love

I remember seeing Razorlight as the middle band on one  those three band bills that seemed to be standard at the time and thinking what a waste of space they were...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on August 27, 2020, 10:09:14 am
Still one of my favorite songs from this period of indie landfill

Little Man Tate - Man I Hate Your Band


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urZ0UtZ9dWQ

probably taking the piss about other indie landfill band..
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 27, 2020, 10:12:19 am
if Kosmo hasn't heard of your band...then you virtually don't exist
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 02, 2020, 08:44:42 am
The Indie Landfill rebuttal

The term ‘landfill indie’ is pure snobbery from people who don’t know how to have fun

Last week VICE dredged up the term, an endeavour so sneeringly reductive it’s like your Grandad listing the relative merits of each Pokémon

https://www.nme.com/features/landfill-indie-snobbery-2741199

I need to start checking out some of the bands on that list I wasn’t aware of
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 02, 2020, 09:24:39 am
of course it is a bit rich that NME is calling Indie Landfill a case of snobbery as they are quite adapt at tearing down bands
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on September 02, 2020, 12:14:40 pm
of course it is a bit rich that NME is calling Indie Landfill a case of snobbery as they are quite adapt at tearing down bands

i know... they were utterly VICIOUS with coldplay.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on September 02, 2020, 12:58:00 pm
of course it is a bit rich that NME is calling Indie Landfill a case of snobbery as they are quite adapt at tearing down bands

Fratellis at #1 nails it though.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 02, 2020, 02:02:42 pm
Interesting profile Rolling Stone did on Linda Martell, this and the Toots piece have been really well done..

Country's Lost Pioneer
Linda Martell was the first black female solo artist to play the Grand Ole Opry, but her promising country career was plagued by racism and ended almost as quickly as it began. Fifty years after her only album, she's speaking out

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/linda-martell-black-country-grand-ole-opry-pioneer-1050432/

Listening to her album on a evil steaming service and while the type of record I don't  than I usually listen to, I'm enjoying it
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 02, 2020, 03:45:44 pm
of course it is a bit rich that NME is calling Indie Landfill a case of snobbery as they are quite adapt at tearing down bands

i know... they were utterly VICIOUS with coldplay.
A blind squirrel sometimes finds a nut.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 04, 2020, 07:56:59 am
posting this on all my socials.. i believe this combo is a road crews worst nightmare

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhEacM3WkAERNEN?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: WALKonBack on September 04, 2020, 08:31:00 pm
Anyone else, hear the new john frusciante music?

Good Lord . . . I feel as though, my heart has been touched by Christ.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on September 22, 2020, 01:26:30 pm
Rolling Stone just updated their list of the 500 Greatest Albums of All Time

When we first did the RS 500 in 2003, people were talking about the “death of the album.” The album —and especially the album release — is more relevant than ever. Of course, it could still be argued that embarking on a project like this is increasingly difficult in an era of streaming and fragmented taste. But that was part of what made rebooting the RS 500 fascinating and fun; 86 of the albums on the list are from this century, and 154 are new additions that weren’t on the 2003 or 2012 versions. The classics are still the classics, but the canon keeps getting bigger and better.


https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-lists/best-albums-of-all-time-1062063/ (https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-lists/best-albums-of-all-time-1062063/)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: WALKonBack on September 22, 2020, 08:53:11 pm
I don't agree with that list.  so, it is, wrong.  the, end.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on September 23, 2020, 09:27:00 am
Dark Side at 55? Psshhht.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on September 23, 2020, 09:46:14 am
500 arcDe Fire....don’t get love for these guys


499 can’t read my writing but says no

Rufus no way...ton better

498 suicide...oh yes!

497!soweto comp no... always on these lists

496. Shakira....now we are talking!

495 boys 2 men...can’t stomach

494 ronnettes...absolutely

493 can’t read but no

Marvin Gaye here my dear....always makes these lists cause of the storyline about being a big fuck you to wife and sister of Motown founder Berry gordy but the album is so damn slow...does anyone actually listen to this double album? No just no

492 Bonnie raitt...always the comeback story puts this album on lists ...her second album give it up is ten times better

491 no just no
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on October 09, 2020, 01:21:50 pm
Here's your feel good story for today...

Q Magazine was set to hold their annual awards ceremony which was cancelled due to Covid-19 and Paul Heaton was scheduled to get the only known award there as it turned out he never got a Q award.  Anyways, shortly after Q shut down, Paul reached out and offered to make a donation to the staff of the magazine.  The donation was accepted after be politely declined at the outset and distributed to the remaining Q staffers.

link to twitter thread

https://twitter.com/TedKessler1/status/1314517069145288704?s=20
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on October 09, 2020, 01:29:15 pm
seriously Paul Heaton is total class act

https://twitter.com/PaulHeatonSolo/status/1314597762701369344?s=20

btw his album "Manchester Calling" is one of the best of the year for me...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on October 09, 2020, 01:37:10 pm
That’s a great story

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on October 11, 2020, 02:39:14 am
hey kosmo, wanna make some acid house?

https://808303.studio/ (https://808303.studio/)

(explanation: https://www.engadget.com/roland-tr-808-tb-303-synthesizers-design-museum-131209746.html (https://www.engadget.com/roland-tr-808-tb-303-synthesizers-design-museum-131209746.html))
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on October 16, 2020, 02:22:04 pm
in case there are any bedroom rawkers that want to up their chops: Fender is offering 3 months of free access to Play, their online learning platform.  no credit card required.  time to watch a few videos and finally figure out what to do with mixolydian.
https://try.fender.com/play/playfreeplayon/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: vansmack on October 16, 2020, 02:31:30 pm
Thanks.  Ima do this but damn, how good would this have been in say, April when I had more time?

EDIT: Wait, what style do I want to learn?

Rock
Blues
Folk
Country
Pop
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on October 16, 2020, 03:34:27 pm
Thanks.  Ima do this but damn, how good would this have been in say, April when I had more time?

dunno about as far back as april, but fender has been making this offer for a while - they recently announced that they were extending it, which reminded me to post it here.

my bad for not tuning you in previously? (pun intended)

EDIT: Wait, what style do I want to learn?

Rock
Blues
Folk
Country
Pop

yes


(as in steve howe)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on October 16, 2020, 07:09:01 pm


EDIT: Wait, what style do I want to learn?

Rock
Blues
Folk
Country
Pop

Branca
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 07, 2020, 08:36:21 am
Remember taking about music

Good article in the post about Dean and Britta of Luna
https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/music/dean-warehame-britta-phillips-interview/2020/11/06/76439b38-1a0c-11eb-aeec-b93bcc29a01b_story.html
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on November 12, 2020, 03:05:12 pm
I'm a bit shook by this picture of Marshall Crenshaw with long hair, although given he was born in 1953 this was likely taken early 70s and this would have been the look at the time.. plus I found that via his Wiki page he had a band called  Astigfa (an acronym for "a splendid time is guaranteed for all", a lyric from The Beatles' "Being For The Benefit of Mr. Kite").

me thinks antifa should rebrand as Astigfa

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Emk3S0LU4AA6iku?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on November 19, 2020, 01:28:05 pm
speaking of the Welsh Music Prize, I haven't heard all the nominees for this year, but man the Gruff Rhys - Pang and the Right Hand Left Hand - Rogue Zone albums are two of best I've heard in the last year...

if your a fan of the post\math rock stuff ala Trans Am, this a great album

https://righthandlefthand.bandcamp.com/album/zone-rouge

https://welshmusicprize.com/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on November 19, 2020, 01:39:03 pm
not sure what Jules will be tipping seeing as it's Canadian, but 89X is now Pure Country 89
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on November 19, 2020, 01:55:38 pm
not sure what Jules will be tipping seeing as it's Canadian, but 89X is now Pure Country 89
Oh man that’s a bummer. It was so weird moving away from there for the first time (back in the terrestrial radio days) and discovering the rest of America did not know who The Tragically Hip, Sloan, or Finger Eleven were and that Our Lady Peace was not a megaband. People thought Crash Test Dummies were a one-hit wonder!

Attended several a Night 89X Stole Christmas back in the day at Cobo.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 19, 2020, 02:15:05 pm
sloan was popular* in DC.   hutch and I saw them a number of times in the 90s

*well they played the metro cafe popular
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on November 19, 2020, 02:36:23 pm
both 89x and CJAM with their pesky Canadian Content additions, certainly brought lots of great stuff on to the Detroit air waves..  In addition to Jules's list, I would add The Pursuit Of Happiness, Pure, 13 Engines and it was eluding me for a minute but also the short lived group Twenty Four Gone with a dead brilliant single "Girl Of Colours"... this record got a bit rare at one point and one of the DJs played it's in entirety once ;)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on November 19, 2020, 02:38:52 pm
Don't remember Twenty Four Gone but the other 3 for sure. Pure were great! They were in Cool World (a film that does not hold up AT ALL but was amazing at like 12). It was really jarring moving away and realizing bands you thought "everybody" knew were absolutely non-entities in 99% of the country.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 19, 2020, 02:45:25 pm
honestly, it's like the Opposite in DC for the last 30 years, not even the locals know about the local music or care
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on November 19, 2020, 02:53:31 pm
I never knew such good music came out of Canadia!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on November 19, 2020, 02:57:51 pm
wow, jules and koz are making mostalgic with all that name-dropping of classic (northern?) rock...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on November 19, 2020, 03:00:26 pm
also forgot about Blue Rodeo... and of course there were also great CBC radio shows I listen to like Brave New Waves and RealTime which was a saturday night fixture in the mid 90s
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on November 19, 2020, 03:01:05 pm
I never knew such good music came out of Canadia!

ouch.

i mean, i understand that acting/comedy is canada's greatest entertainment export, but you can't deny the music that has come from up north: celine dion, bryan adams, justin bieber, the RCMP marching band... the list goes on and on.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 19, 2020, 03:02:40 pm
how could you leave Drake out!
Probably has more hits/album sales than everyone but Celine
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on November 19, 2020, 03:08:49 pm
and to possibly remind jules

Twenty Four Gone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvEeSIFMgG8

along the lines of the Chameleons and Kitchens of Distinction
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 19, 2020, 03:09:24 pm
So is trump talking about the new Vaccines album...I haven't heard a thing?
they've got a single out?

Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrump
VACCINES ARE COMING FAST!!!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on November 19, 2020, 03:45:29 pm
and to possibly remind jules

Twenty Four Gone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvEeSIFMgG8

along the lines of the Chameleons and Kitchens of Distinction
Nah man, I don't know this one. Notes say its 2003 which makes sense, time-wise, with me not knowing it. OK song though!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on November 20, 2020, 12:10:10 pm
I never knew such good music came out of Canadia!

I may have spoken too soon! That Partner release is a hoot.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: WALKonBack on November 20, 2020, 01:30:55 pm
"My God, it's full of stars." 

In other words . . . The Orb, still have it.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on November 24, 2020, 10:27:03 am
speaking of the Welsh Music Prize, I haven't heard all the nominees for this year, but man the Gruff Rhys - Pang and the Right Hand Left Hand - Rogue Zone albums are two of best I've heard in the last year...

if your a fan of the post\math rock stuff ala Trans Am, this a great album

https://righthandlefthand.bandcamp.com/album/zone-rouge

https://welshmusicprize.com/

and the winner was Deyah with her mini album Care City...  I'm listening to this at the moment and can see why this talented singer\rapper is getting kudos for this one...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 24, 2020, 01:16:07 pm
What is going on over at the grammies??

#GRAMMYs Best Rock Song:
Phoebe Bridgers – “Kyoto”
Tame Impala – “Lost in Yesterday”
Big Thief – “Not”
Fiona Apple – “Shameika”
Brittany Howard – “Stay High”


Replacements even got a nom...for Best Album Notes ?!  that's a category?

Wow, fontaines DC nom for best rock ablum (As well as Sturgill and the strokes)

G.Love got a nom for best comptempory blues!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: challenged on November 24, 2020, 04:29:54 pm
What is going on over at the grammies??

#GRAMMYs Best Rock Song:
Phoebe Bridgers – “Kyoto”
Tame Impala – “Lost in Yesterday”
Big Thief – “Not”
Fiona Apple – “Shameika”
Brittany Howard – “Stay High”


Replacements even got a nom...for Best Album Notes ?!  that's a category?

Wow, fontaines DC nom for best rock ablum (As well as Sturgill and the strokes)

G.Love got a nom for best comptempory blues!



What is going on over at the grammies??

#GRAMMYs Best Rock Song:
Phoebe Bridgers – “Kyoto”
Tame Impala – “Lost in Yesterday”
Big Thief – “Not”
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Fiona Apple – “Shameika”
Brittany Howard – “Stay High”
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on November 24, 2020, 05:47:06 pm
Kyoto is about the 6th best song on Phoebe Bridgers’ absolutely revelatory Punisher.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on December 07, 2020, 10:51:04 am
Dylan sells his entire song catalog of 600 songs in 60 years to Universal Music for a reported 300 million

The Dylan catalog, a 60-year rock ‘n’ roll odyssey, is sold

https://apnews.com/article/business-music-nobel-prizes-bob-dylan-7748e53ffd61e8fe6652a1b6af82ed20

seeing as he's reportedly one of the most covered songwriters this will make someone some money...

also it points out how little artists are getting from streaming services.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on December 07, 2020, 10:53:56 am
Well $300 million is nothing to sneeze at


(All artists seem to be embracing this... I guess it makes sense to get the money before you die in terms of deciding where it should go...)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on December 07, 2020, 10:55:34 am
I feel like I should probably understand this better already but why would someone want to buy this? Like, how does UM monetize this? Do they get part of the royalties every time his song is played? Are they now the arbiter of who can do a Dylan cover commercially? Can they license Blowin' In The Wind to a Propecia commerical?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 07, 2020, 11:02:31 am
Are they now the arbiter of who can do a Dylan cover commercially? Can they license Blowin' In The Wind to a Propecia commerical?
already did it for Bud in a Superbowl ad, I was thinking Latuda would be a better fit

Actually, if he did the voice over for the side effects...that would be great
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on December 07, 2020, 11:12:29 am
I'm no expert in this, but my guess since it's the rights to his song UM will get paid for both his versions and anyone that does a cover... no idea what his streaming payouts are but that i'm sure is what UM is eyeballing and they can get artists on their roster to do covers and double dip
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on December 07, 2020, 01:27:15 pm
I feel like I should probably understand this better already but why would someone want to buy this? Like, how does UM monetize this? Do they get part of the royalties every time his song is played? Are they now the arbiter of who can do a Dylan cover commercially? Can they license Blowin' In The Wind to a Propecia commerical?

UM will now collect all royalties for covers and commercial use (including ads) of dylan's catalog.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on December 07, 2020, 01:46:17 pm
Thanks. Does that include the royalty he gets when his song is played on a radio or someone listens to him on their streamer of choice? (I understand there is not a straight "you played Bob Dylan on spotify 4 times so he gets 5 cents per play" model with streamers.) Can they now unilaterally re-package and re-release his recordings or does he still maintain something that makes that only allowed under mutual consent?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on December 07, 2020, 01:59:48 pm
(I understand there is not a straight "you played Bob Dylan on spotify 4 times so he gets 5 cents per play" model with streamers.)

You're off by an of magnitude, I think.  It's more like $.005 per stream.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on December 07, 2020, 02:20:42 pm
I literally said “I know it’s not” dude.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on December 08, 2020, 12:21:00 pm
I think he sold it all off...publishing , copyrights..

It’s a great end of life kind of decision .. the kind any responsible father should make

I also read his heirs under US law could buy it back in 35 years

It’s really made me sad.. cause it’s the kind of thing you do when you are straightening out your affairs before dying

I also was shocked to learn he owns the publishing for “The Weight”!

That’s a big one

I guess drawing that cover for music from the big pink was worth it!!

It’s possible we have seen the last of Bob Dylan live... pisses me off FWB messed up my tickets for his last anthem show.. really angers me..

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on December 09, 2020, 10:03:40 am
I think he sold it all off...publishing , copyrights..

It’s a great end of life kind of decision .. the kind any responsible father should make

I also read his heirs under US law could buy it back in 35 years

It’s really made me sad.. cause it’s the kind of thing you do when you are straightening out your affairs before dying

I also was shocked to learn he owns the publishing for “The Weight”!

That’s a big one

I guess drawing that cover for music from the big pink was worth it!!

It’s possible we have seen the last of Bob Dylan live... pisses me off FWB messed up my tickets for his last anthem show.. really angers me..

what continues to blow my mind about artists like Dylan (especially him), Neil Young, etc... I've listened to these artists for upwards of 30 years (some of you I'm sure a lot longer), but I still discover new songs that absolutely slay me. The most recent example is Dylan's track "Making a Liar Out of Me" from volume 13 of The Bootleg Series. Wow.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on December 09, 2020, 10:25:27 am
"I can’t work, and streaming stole my record money," Crosby said via Twitter. "I have a family and a mortgage and I have to take care of them, so it’s my only option. I’m sure the others feel the same."
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on December 09, 2020, 10:34:50 am
I think he sold it all off...publishing , copyrights..

It’s a great end of life kind of decision .. the kind any responsible father should make

I also read his heirs under US law could buy it back in 35 years

It’s really made me sad.. cause it’s the kind of thing you do when you are straightening out your affairs before dying

I also was shocked to learn he owns the publishing for “The Weight”!

That’s a big one

I guess drawing that cover for music from the big pink was worth it!!

It’s possible we have seen the last of Bob Dylan live... pisses me off FWB messed up my tickets for his last anthem show.. really angers me..

what continues to blow my mind about artists like Dylan (especially him), Neil Young, etc... I've listened to these artists for upwards of 30 years (some of you I'm sure a lot longer), but I still discover new songs that absolutely slay me. The most recent example is Dylan's track "Making a Liar Out of Me" from volume 13 of The Bootleg Series. Wow.

His finest work is undoubtedly frontloaded, but there are gems scattered throughout his career, right up to the present day. For sheer fecundity, I can’t, with the exception of Bob Dylan, think of any other songwriter who comes close. There are very few artists in history, in any field, who have produced so much work at a high level over such a span.

Some might say McCartney. (https://ianleslie.substack.com/p/64-reasons-to-celebrate-paul-mccartney)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 09, 2020, 10:40:21 am
Macca post 71 output is somewhat meh IMO
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on December 14, 2020, 09:24:23 am
https://www.brooklynvegan.com/sam-jayne-of-love-as-laughter-missing-since-monday/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on December 16, 2020, 06:44:22 pm
Cross posting to the movie thread...

Just watched the documentary Dennis and Lois on Prime and would recommend as an 90 minutes very well spent.  It’s about two serious music fans of Manchester bands in particular who have attended thousands of shows since the days of CBGBs.  They once sold Ramones t-shirts and you get to see them hanging with lots of great  bands. Fun little movie about ordinary people who really enjoy live music
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on December 17, 2020, 04:06:48 pm
Cross posting to the movie thread...

Just watched the documentary Dennis and Lois on Prime and would recommend as an 90 minutes very well spent.  It’s about two serious music fans of Manchester bands in particular who have attended thousands of shows since the days of CBGBs.  They once sold Ramones t-shirts and you get to see them hanging with lots of great  bands. Fun little movie about ordinary people who really enjoy live music

sounds like it would make me nostalgic, in a homesick kinda way...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 17, 2020, 11:17:01 pm

Just watched the documentary Dennis and Lois on Prime
Holy shit this was awesome
I think I cried
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on December 18, 2020, 10:45:01 am

Just watched the documentary Dennis and Lois on Prime
Holy shit this was awesome
I think I cried

the one thing i keep pondering is they never did say what Dennis did for a living, but i guess he could have been retired by the time the movie was made... they certainly travelled around enough to follow bands, and lots of trips to the UK for shows as well. 

looks like the footage was shoot before 2017 as that's when they did the Kickstarter for it. 

one of my favorite moments is of course when Noel Gallagher meets them for the first time and said "You are the Dennis and Lois?".  i guess having a Happy Mondays song written about you helps...

i'm guessin' the club staph have meet them more than once over years
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 18, 2020, 10:52:15 am
they are like the forest gump of indie music

Yeah don't really know what their funding source would be...they seem broke, but fly to manchester to see a show and fly back the next day
that can't be cheap
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: challenged on December 19, 2020, 10:15:43 am

Just watched the documentary Dennis and Lois on Prime
Holy shit this was awesome
I think I cried

Would not have known of this film without these posts. Thanks. Really enjoyed, and a high school chum is even in the film.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 19, 2020, 04:26:16 pm
appreciated by us music nerds, but I miss a president that understands that music is the spice of life and is tasteless without it
I love that it's current and all over the map (noticeably no KPOP tho...)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EpoFRD7XMAEZxFR?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: StoneTheCrow on December 20, 2020, 09:48:10 am

Just watched the documentary Dennis and Lois on Prime
Holy shit this was awesome
I think I cried

Fell asleep during this last nite.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on December 21, 2020, 01:45:28 pm
my english music twitter feed this morning has been alternating about the current covid & brexit clusterfuck currently going on over there..

and losing their minds over the teaser reel from  forthcoming Peter Jackson documentary -TheBeatles -Get Back

https://twitter.com/PaulMcCartney/status/1340930384545148928?s=20

looks like it could be a great watch next year...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: StoneTheCrow on December 21, 2020, 11:22:03 pm
The footage he has is incredible.

On the other hand, the UK is so incredibly fcucked right now.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on December 23, 2020, 10:30:01 am
Who had the return of Kula Shaker on their 2020 bingo card?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 23, 2020, 01:06:25 pm
Talking Heads to Receive 2021 Lifetime Achievement Grammy

Also, I remember a really fun Kula Shaker show at the club in the 90's...man I miss live music
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on December 24, 2020, 05:16:19 pm
How bad is your Spotify?

https://pudding.cool/2020/12/judge-my-spotify/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on December 29, 2020, 02:03:49 pm
Taylor Swift's "Willow" goes from #1 to #38 on the Billboard Hot 100, making the greatest fall from No. 1 on the Hot 100 in the chart's history.

Not too surprising that she's now susceptible to the "Rush" effect: stans buy new record when released, then no one else does. Named for its swiftness and the band for whom its most famous.

So now it's the "Swift" effect?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on December 29, 2020, 05:12:38 pm
How bad is your Spotify?

https://pudding.cool/2020/12/judge-my-spotify/

That was hilarious.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 29, 2020, 05:50:52 pm
agreed...knows me too well

Based on your listening habits, I can also tell you your spotify was...
> dads-still-cool bad
> music-to-stalk-boys-to bad
> sitting-alone-in-the-cafeteria bad
> love-your-npr-tote bad
> craft-beer-snob bad
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 06, 2021, 01:17:51 pm
Neil Young has now sold 50% of the rights to his songwriting catalog.


makes me think Hipgnosis Songs Fund Ltd might be a good investment...hasn't done much, but it's building quite the repertoire
https://www.google.com/finance/quote/HPGSF:OTCMKTS

the one on the London exchange has a better stock name
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/SONG.L
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on February 07, 2021, 03:29:42 pm
Trent, Mariqueen, and Atticus unite with Mike Garson, Carlos Alomar, Gerry Leonard, Mark Plati, and Sterling Campbell (Bowie band alumni) to create a new version of David Bowie's Fashion 

https://youtu.be/klM9RlJfsVg
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on February 11, 2021, 12:38:36 pm
(https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/C3LWyhnVTxWP93HxvYjNFm-1024-80.jpg.webp)

Man builds guitar out of his dead uncle’s skeleton, uses it to play black metal (https://www.guitarworld.com/news/man-builds-guitar-out-of-his-dead-uncles-skeleton-uses-it-to-play-black-metal)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on February 11, 2021, 12:45:46 pm
The kids over at Metafilter had a little bit of fun with this (https://www.metafilter.com/190415/Loud-Enough-to-Wake-the-Dead).

Best comment: I realize the necessary scale length wouldn't permit it, but I am mildly disappointed the neck doesn't contain more...neck.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 13, 2021, 09:34:27 am
https://www.vice.com/en/article/bvxa7q/new-video-shows-beverly-hills-cops-playing-beatles-to-trigger-instagram-copyright-filter
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 18, 2021, 07:59:58 am
Nick cave...this guy always does the right thing
some nice prizes in here, hope it raises a lot


Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds are raising funds to help support their live crew, whose livings have been heavily impacted by Covid-19.
https://www.crowdfunder.co.uk/nctbs-crew-fundraiser
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 02, 2021, 02:24:40 pm
Interesting development over at SoundCloud regarding how they are playing artist over there...

They are shifting from paying per stream to a how fans listen to artists music on SoundCloud

"Payouts are based on a fan’s overall listening time. The fans you see in your insights dashboard are the fans who are contributing to your royalties."

https://community.soundcloud.com/fanpoweredroyalties

This will be benefit artists at all levels not just the mega ones like the rest of the streaming services.

and when you get Geoff Barrow of Portishead on board with this, who is one of Spotify's loudest critics, this must be a significant shift.  Will be interesting to see this play out on Musician Twitter...

https://twitter.com/Portisheadinfo/status/1366780357362782209?s=20
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 02, 2021, 02:42:23 pm
Interesting...does Soundcloud have the catalog that would be worth switching from Spotify?
Years back seemed like mostly amateur content, mixes and a lot of EDM
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 02, 2021, 02:58:37 pm
Interesting...does Soundcloud have the catalog that would be worth switching from Spotify?
Years back seemed like mostly amateur content, mixes and a lot of EDM

They have had for awhile a GO+ option that is traditional mainstream releases streaming service like Spotify in addition to all the amateur content... I didn't dig deep but they have for example Arlo Park, Celeste, BlackPink, Ceelo Green, Belle & Sebastian, etc..
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 02, 2021, 03:12:28 pm
I had to look it up as I was curious as to what Damon of Damon & Naomi and Galaxie 500 had to say, as he is also one of the top critics of how streaming services pays out and he's in favor of this move

https://twitter.com/dada_drummer/status/1366746806256873475?s=20

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on March 02, 2021, 03:19:35 pm
I wish Damon spent 1% of the time he spends bitching about streaming making music


I mean nobody is going to make much money from Galaxie 500 or Damon and Naomi music


Some of these musicians who spend their life bitching about Spotify..sheesh.. can’t be healthy

David Lowery is another one.. just comes off poorly

I get it though.. it’s true they are being ripped off..   just saying all that energy spent complaining and tweeting... doesn’t strike me as great art
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 02, 2021, 03:24:12 pm
Lowery has a lot more to lose than Damon

The thing is a lot of bands no one would ever buy any of the catalogs, but it comes up in algorithms and searches in the streaming sites
so I don't think 1 million people would pay $1 for Take the Skinheads Bowling, but they would sure stream it in a second
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 02, 2021, 03:28:48 pm
so then you are waiting for what Anton Newcombe has to say about this then ;)  He does nothing but make music these days..
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 02, 2021, 05:44:29 pm
so then you are waiting for what Anton Newcombe has to say about this then ;)  He does nothing but make music these days..
Felt like sharing this after reading an interview with Anton

You've got songs called My Bloody Underground, Blue Order/New Monday and Who Killed Sgt Pepper? Do you have conflicted feelings towards rock history?

I love My Bloody Valentine, I really do, but I wasn't thinking about them when I came up with those. But [New Order's] Bernard Sumner had a group called Bad Lieutenant and they put out a single that ripped off one of my songs, When Jokers Attack. It was based on a very unique 12-string riff. And I was like, "OK, this is fucking retarded. I'm going to scramble the name of your fucking band so that when people Google your name mine is going to come up, too, for all eternity."

Couldn't you have served a writ?

I'm more like, "Fuck those guys." I think it's funny. So does Peter Hook. I talk to him about it on Twitter. It's just retarded that they would do that. But then there is a tradition of English groups completely lifting other people's shit, whether it's Led Zeppelin or whoever. I like to think of my heroes as innovators. They didn't need to do that to me.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 03, 2021, 11:29:39 am
and now i'm beginning to see a little discussion of artists going the route of using Non-Fungible Token (NFT) to sell their wares... Richie Hawtin is testing the waters and Kings of Leon are going to use them as part of their next album release...  seems like a great idea but it  also seems like you'd have to be a really huge fan of the artist to get involved in that scheme

it's great technology is allowing artists to take back their creations, but bandcamp will suit my needs just fine...



Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 03, 2021, 12:10:51 pm
of artists going the route of using Non-Fungible Token (NFT) to sell their wares..

yikes...crypto for music...I'm not 100% sure how this works
but found this article about Grimes making $6mill selling some digital art
https://www.theverge.com/2021/3/1/22308075/grimes-nft-6-million-sales-nifty-gateway-warnymph

I can tell you this, they will definitely lose the hutch market if this is the route
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 03, 2021, 12:54:17 pm
RS isn't letting me read this one on my 'puter without signing in, but was able to skim on the phone..

as one person points out this feel a bit like a grift... because sell an expensive token for future concerts seems a risky buy, because the band could just break up after selling them... plus, it seems very Julian's American, where the well heeled can get access via their bankroll

Kings of Leon Will Be the First Band to Release an Album as an NFT
The band’s revolutionary tokens will unlock special perks like limited-edition vinyl and front row seats to future concerts

https://www.rollingstone.com/pro/news/kings-of-leon-when-you-see-yourself-album-nft-crypto-1135192/

and yes this would lose the hutchmo market :P
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 03, 2021, 01:00:31 pm
I mean the good thing about NFT is each 'piece is unique and can enable the artist to connect directly with the owners of that
But are fans going to want to buy stuff like that...I guess the hardcore ones will
Would you need a pono to play said musical piece?

not sure how you can't just make a copy without the NFT, you just wouldn't get the NTF perks
I guess they could convince phone/media players to only play NFT music and block those without NTF?


I just think the term Non-Fungible is a non-starter for many ;)
Putting the Non-Fun back into music!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 03, 2021, 01:41:52 pm
i guess for a artist\band just starting out this could be seen as speculative kickstarter type approach, for the established bands they can sell access and for a catalog artist it could provide access to unreleased stuff...

seems like a grifty type of fan club...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Bagley on March 04, 2021, 12:31:31 pm
Lonnie Liston Smith does Donovan with some help from Iggy

Cool stuff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=3CVa1dkkXcY&ab_channel=078Beatclub-Music%26More
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on March 08, 2021, 02:06:46 am
Animals That Look Like They’re About To Drop The Hottest Albums Ever (https://www.sadanduseless.com/animal-bands-funny/)
 
these are awesome.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Cock Van Der Palm on March 08, 2021, 09:29:44 am
Haha. That is great!!

Animals That Look Like They’re About To Drop The Hottest Albums Ever (https://www.sadanduseless.com/animal-bands-funny/)
 
these are awesome.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on March 08, 2021, 12:39:33 pm
Animals That Look Like They’re About To Drop The Hottest Albums Ever (https://www.sadanduseless.com/animal-bands-funny/)
 
these are awesome.

But most of these records would not age well. Lots of these guys are gonna get cancelled.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on March 08, 2021, 03:15:05 pm
Animals That Look Like They’re About To Drop The Hottest Albums Ever (https://www.sadanduseless.com/animal-bands-funny/)
 
these are awesome.

But most of these records would not age well. Lots of these guys are gonna get cancelled.

and/or eaten.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 11, 2021, 06:21:36 pm
Kings of Leon Will Be the First Band to Release an Album as an NFT
now they are selling memes as an NFT
https://www.theverge.com/2021/3/10/22322131/nyan-cat-creator-nft-memes-memeconomy
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 11, 2021, 08:41:20 pm
People clearly have far to much disposable cash for some of this NFT BS
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 11, 2021, 08:44:15 pm
h\t Mr. Tonotation

https://twitter.com/teenagestepdad/status/1370092353931902977?s=21

Fuck it. Here's some NFTs about NFTs.
"Stop Monetizing Everything
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on March 11, 2021, 10:26:02 pm
https://instagram.com/stories/kevinmorby/2527430392484846043?utm_source=ig_story_item_share&igshid=cptyhgsxz9z7

Kevin Morby and Katie at The Flaming Lips
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on March 11, 2021, 11:20:08 pm
https://instagram.com/stories/kevinmorby/2527430392484846043?utm_source=ig_story_item_share&igshid=cptyhgsxz9z7

Kevin Morby and Katie at The Flaming Lips
Amazing.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 12, 2021, 05:13:23 pm
Kings of Leon Will Be the First Band to Release an Album as an NFT
now they are selling memes as an NFT
https://www.theverge.com/2021/3/10/22322131/nyan-cat-creator-nft-memes-memeconomy
Ok I know this is not the NFT thread, but someone just spent $69 Million on some NFT art
https://nypost.com/2021/03/12/mysterious-crypto-investor-reportedly-bought-69m-beeple-art/
what is crazy is you can actually download and display an exact copy (minus the nft) for free
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 13, 2021, 05:35:10 am
Yes we probably need an NFT thread, but I’m really hoping this nonsense burns itself out soon..

NFTs have entered the pirating phase,  people have begun  tokenizing other peoples stuff and there is a list of who to block on Twitter.

This is really going to effect someone like the Effin’ Bird guy,  as he already has to deal with the pirates who routinely use those print on demand sites to attempt to use his stuff. 

Once something is tokenized it appears they essentially have copyrighted it for their own.  Because what this world needs is every meme maker tokenizing their stuff so they claim it’s their original idea and then monetize it. 

What seems like on paper a way for creators to in theory get an upper hand, is rapidly becoming useless
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 29, 2021, 12:39:16 pm
Never thought I see the convergence of Ms. Swift and Ween, but here it is.   Bonus appearance by Dr. Dog's drummer..

When
@ericslickmusic
 remotely recorded drums for the new Taylor Swift song, Swift's vocal was altered to keep her identity secret:

“The pitch was very low and kind of unrecognizable. To be honest with you, it sounded like Ween.”

https://twitter.com/jonbern/status/1376551972208312321?s=20

Drummer Eric Slick Recalls the ‘Top Secret’ Recording Process for Taylor Swift’s New Song
Musician plays on the pop star’s new remake of the Fearless-era outtake “You All Over Me”
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on March 29, 2021, 01:29:33 pm
High compliment


Wonder if it lives up....

You should cross post in the Ween sucks ass thread
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on March 29, 2021, 01:40:13 pm
Never thought I see the convergence of Ms. Swift and Ween, but here it is.   Bonus appearance by Dr. Dog's drummer..

When
@ericslickmusic
 remotely recorded drums for the new Taylor Swift song, Swift's vocal was altered to keep her identity secret:

“The pitch was very low and kind of unrecognizable. To be honest with you, it sounded like Ween.”

https://twitter.com/jonbern/status/1376551972208312321?s=20

Drummer Eric Slick Recalls the ‘Top Secret’ Recording Process for Taylor Swift’s New Song
Musician plays on the pop star’s new remake of the Fearless-era outtake “You All Over Me”

Unfortunately Slick's recording studio appears to have been ruined this weekend.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on March 29, 2021, 02:46:44 pm
Eric Slick is also Natalie Prass' boyfriend and drummer.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on March 29, 2021, 02:47:49 pm
Not to be confused with Earl Slick
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on March 29, 2021, 02:52:48 pm
Or Grace Slick.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on March 29, 2021, 02:53:02 pm
Or Slick Rick.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on March 29, 2021, 03:09:15 pm
Eric Slick is also Natalie Prass' boyfriend and drummer.

Husband... and drummer of Dr. Dog
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on March 29, 2021, 04:21:43 pm
Not to be confused with That Dog
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on March 29, 2021, 04:25:03 pm
You’re the Man Now, Dog.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on March 31, 2021, 10:48:24 pm
Paul Simon is the latest famous songwriter to cash in his publishing rights (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/31/arts/music/paul-simon-catalog-sony.html?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytimes)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 01, 2021, 10:26:43 am
nice PF ref
(https://www.economist.com/sites/default/files/print-covers/20210327_cna1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on April 14, 2021, 03:22:43 pm
Here's a poppin' Aphex Twin cover for your Wednesday afternoon listening enjoyment:

https://youtu.be/1x_wNUmiFC4
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on April 14, 2021, 03:23:22 pm
And here's enough to take you to happy hour:

https://www.metafilter.com/191104/Selected-Aphex-Twin-covers-vol-1
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on April 14, 2021, 05:48:48 pm
Got hipped to this today...Voice Of The Beehive covering Comsat Angels

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFlpabeg3VI

Also my phone just autocorrected Comsat to COMSAT :o
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on April 15, 2021, 05:10:54 pm
Here's a poppin' Aphex Twin cover for your Wednesday afternoon listening enjoyment:

https://youtu.be/1x_wNUmiFC4 (https://youtu.be/1x_wNUmiFC4)

^ NICE.  that drummer is a beast.

since we're on a techno-done-live kick: Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger - Daft Punk | talkbox + big band funk cover (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHu0ALxqUIo). and the vocal performance on this one is kinda bonkers: Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger | Daft Punk | Pomplamoose (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUpdfpOPf4Y).

fun fact, both tracks feature the same dude on keys: Jack Conte, aka the founder and CEO of Patreon.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on April 16, 2021, 07:57:04 am
Found out they did a 20th anniversary re-issue for The Go's Whatcha Doin', but because Jack White was involved it came out on Third Man Records subscription service which means if I really want to hear this, I have to resort to tracking it down via fleabay, etc...  why can't they just put stuff like this up on Bandcamp, all i want to do is hear the blasted thing, not go through being gouged for some vinyl.

as a side note i believe White and Third Man Records are responsible for some of the pricing of vinyl these days... when the first Raconteurs album came a record store owner told me they were forced to carry the vinyl at a much high cost at the time
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 16, 2021, 11:28:22 pm
(https://images3.memedroid.com/images/UPLOADED71/603a95e2d34b1.jpeg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 16, 2021, 11:43:08 pm
(https://variety.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Panic-on-the-Streets-of-Springfield_01.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on April 28, 2021, 08:09:52 am
Found that there is is not just one but three different Phil Collins Tribute acts out there calling themselves Still Collins... US, UK and Germany

and if you going to promote your bar band here's the way to do it

Still Collins USA EPK

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5uabjVZNw0

it's also apparent all Still Collins bass players are required to use a Five String Bass.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 04, 2021, 12:08:47 pm
RHCP going for cold hard cash

https://consequence.net/2021/05/red-hot-chili-peppers-selling-song-catalog-for-more-than-140-million

Got me wondering if I should add some Hipgnosis Songs Fund Limited (SONG.L) to my investment portfolio?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on May 04, 2021, 12:17:03 pm
RHCP going for cold hard cash

https://consequence.net/2021/05/red-hot-chili-peppers-selling-song-catalog-for-more-than-140-million

Got me wondering if I should add some Hipgnosis Songs Fund Limited (SONG.L) to my investment portfolio?


So much for the “this is something musicians do when they get really old before they die to get their estate in order and spare their heirs hassle” line

U2 next? Radiohead!?

I think the earlier hipgnosis can get musicians to sell the better for both

We will be hearing RHCP songs targeting us in pharma ads until we die

RIP Yauch on ninth anniversary of his death.. thank goodness he had a stipulation in his will that prevents this sellout
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on May 04, 2021, 12:31:56 pm
I mean I get it.. Bob Dylan is turning 80 and wants to cash out and get his estate in order.. he does have a lot of kids


Flea is 58!!!! And he wants someone else to control his songs in ads and shit? That’s sad and I am the first guy to stand for artists doing what they want to reap benefits from their work

It’s also kind of saying they accept they have peaked and aren’t going to add much to their legacy..they are saying their stock  is as high as it ever will be and it’s downhill from here
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 04, 2021, 12:38:47 pm
It’s also kind of saying they accept they have peaked and aren’t going to add much to their legacy..they are saying their stock  is as high as it ever will be and it’s downhill from here
I mean they really have.  They can still tour and make a few mil every few years if they want too
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Post by: hutch on May 04, 2021, 12:41:25 pm
Well that’s sad


Cashing out cause you are on your way out anyways ok

Cashing out cause you are just selling out


They are right now recording a new album with Frusciante back in band... guess they don’t have faith in themselves

Where does it end? Artists in their 20s who don’t see hits coming?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on May 04, 2021, 01:17:17 pm
Flea is 58!!!!

...

It’s also kind of saying they accept they have peaked and aren’t going to add much to their legacy..they are saying their stock  is as high as it ever will be and it’s downhill from here
These two things go hand in hand. Every rock artist in history peaked by 35 (virtually all by 30, honestly) and went downhill after that.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on May 04, 2021, 01:26:57 pm
If RHCP came out with another great album they will add to their legacy and expand the value of their previous stuff.


People are living longer....we could have 30 more years of RHCP


I am not even a huge fan

But if we use this criteria every major artist should sell out NOW
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on May 04, 2021, 01:32:48 pm
Or an artist could you know hire someone to help them exploit their catalog while ensuring it’s done tastefully... they could bet on themselves..they are still around and will be for a long time

They will get a steady flow of income every year unless something crazy happens (say a Gary Glitter)

The original idea of the play was “I am going to die in the next few years why not cash out and get that big lump sum and determine where it goes before I die.. why leave the hassle to my heirs...also maybe I have a little bit of time to enjoy it...I am old..can’t tour that much”


Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on May 04, 2021, 01:41:24 pm
If RHCP came out with another great album they will add to their legacy and expand the value of their previous stuff.


People are living longer....we could have 30 more years of RHCP


I am not even a huge fan

But if we use this criteria every major artist should sell out NOW
I think we are talking about different things. The RHCP's creative peak -- a band I don't care for, just for the record -- was a long time ago. The music they make now is not as good, nor will resonate as much with people, as they music they made a long time ago. There is a zero percent chance they make music in the future that tops their previous high-water mark. This is not unique to the RHCP.

The value of their catalogue is higher today than it was in the year they put out their best music. This is for many reasons but primary among them the fact that their back catalogue remains popular several decades later speaks to its investability. It is more likely that people will continue to want to hear a 30-year-old RHCP track that remains popular today twenty years from now compared to a song from another artist that is popular but came out 3 months ago.

Had "selling your music rights" been a thing for the last thirty years, the RHCP would have been betting on themselves (successfully, in this case) for holding on to them for this long as there is a chance (and a significant one if you look at the history of rock music) that the right to their music's value would have decreased over time or peaked in close proximity to their creative peak if it did not have staying power, as most music does not. (Imagine the value of Chumbawumba's catalogue today vs its value in 1997, adjusted for inflation.)

If you take as gospel that paragraph #1 is true, then it serves to reason that Untitled 2022 RHCP LP is not going to materially move the needle on their publishing rights as it is (1) inferior output and (2) will not resonate as dramatically with people as the back catalogue.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on May 04, 2021, 01:51:59 pm
Not necessarily true... it could happen that the new RHCP album gets them a new generation of fans.. it’s very unlikely though...

But it’s not as if not selling the catalog means they can’t continue to profit from it themselves...

Selling out just gets them the sum in lump instead of yearly or whatever.. and has other benefits.. “Hey I sold out and don’t control my songs being used to sell as per creme!”...tax issues too..I get that

But the point of cashing out when old is these people realize they may not be around to see the $ so they take the pile of cash before they go

Maybe it makes sense to sell out when 58... I find it sad.. why shouldn’t Phoenix do it next? Or LCD Soundsystem?



Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on May 04, 2021, 02:07:09 pm
Also one has no idea how music rights values will go


In 1997 a baseball franchise was valued at what? 100 million? Today $2.2 billion?

How much would have Bob Dylan gotten for his catalog in 1997 before Time Out of Mind? He was washed up at 46...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on May 04, 2021, 02:07:13 pm
Not necessarily true... it could happen that the new RHCP album gets them a new generation of fans.. it’s very unlikely though...
Very unlikely they get a new generation of fans. Absolutely impossible that anything they put out at 58 tops their current creative peak as 58 is a larger number than 30.

I find it sad.. why shouldn’t Phoenix do it next? Or LCD Soundsystem?
I think if you view music rights as a commodity, there is a couple factors at play. Pretend music rights are a race horse. You have this race horse and it won two of its first three races and placed in its other one. Do you sell the race horse right now or do you hold on to it because it may be worth more down the road? What if you sell the race horse and then it wins the Kentucky Derby? These are the same heuristics in play with music rights.

If you think your music is going to remain super popular decades from now and induce the type of nostalgia that movie makers and advertisers want, then it might make sense to take the risk of holding onto that commodity. OTOH, most bands music rights do not continue to appreciate overtime compared to inflation, I would imagine. The RHCPs or U2s of the world whose (again, inflation-adjusted) valuation peak does not closely align with their creative peak are SUPER rare, if you just start listing bands off the top of your head and thinking about it.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on May 04, 2021, 02:07:57 pm
How much would have Bob Dylan gotten for his catalog in 1997 before Time Out of Mind? He was washed up at 46...
Dude. No one bought the Dylan catalogue because they want to put Time Out of Mind songs in a commercial. Be real.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on May 04, 2021, 02:10:39 pm
But what he has done since 1997 has appreciated his whole catalog

Nobody knew he would win the Nobel for literature

And actually didn’t a Victoria’s Secret ad feature “Things have changed”?


Make you feel my love is a pretty big song (atrocious I admit)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on May 04, 2021, 02:11:21 pm
Anyways I agree with most you say


Just sad


Everything and everyone is for sale
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on May 04, 2021, 02:13:15 pm
But what he has done since 1997 has appreciated his whole catalog

Nobody knew he would win the Nobel for literature
Yeah, he's a super outlier. This is not the arc 99.999999% of bands music rights valuations go.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on May 04, 2021, 02:14:25 pm
I would also suggest that absent me misunderstanding copyright and publishing law, there is a very hard cap on the value of these rights as, at some point, they will enter the public domain. The closer things get to that point, that value has to start trending down.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on May 04, 2021, 02:14:50 pm
Everything and everyone is for sale
Did you buy that line from Manic Street Preachers?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on May 04, 2021, 02:16:06 pm
Very true


For all we know music rights’values could plummet and the RHCP take their $140 million invest in cat coins and become the richest people in the world
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on May 04, 2021, 02:32:08 pm
Everything and everyone is for sale
Did you buy that line from Manic Street Preachers?

Did not


A band I have meticulously avoided
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: evilizac on May 04, 2021, 02:49:00 pm
How much would have Bob Dylan gotten for his catalog in 1997 before Time Out of Mind? He was washed up at 46...
Dude. No one bought the Dylan catalogue because they want to put Time Out of Mind songs in a commercial. Be real.
What? "Love Sick" was used by Victoria's Secret in a huge ad campaign back in the day. I still remember the creepy grandpa commercials.  "To Make You Feel My Love" is now pretty much Adele's song. What kind of trickle down revenue does that generate every time some American Idol hopeful releases a cover of her cover?
 Plus in movies I still vividly recall "Most of the Time" from Oh Mercy. I think the value of Dylan's later catalogue is underrated.
Dammit, totally missed that Hutch touched on all of this. Also, I actually had a Victoria's Secret "Love Sick" Dylan compilation that. . . my dad gave me. Great thanks anxiety, now I have to think about who he was shopping for then, as my parents' relationship crumbled.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 04, 2021, 02:52:10 pm
invest in cat coins
wait, is there a cat coin I can invest in?!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on May 04, 2021, 02:58:24 pm
You would....
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on May 04, 2021, 03:05:52 pm
All I will say about crypto currency is if you buy it call yourself a gambler or speculator and not an investor
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on May 04, 2021, 03:07:40 pm
Anthony's pecs will never bounce like perfection as they did in the Under The Bridge video in 1991.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: hutch on May 04, 2021, 03:24:57 pm
Hard to argue with that... has he cashed out his pecs? What kind of a market value did Iggy establish anyways? when Iggy took the lump sum from Pecinvsis in the 90s I thought he was nuts but when I saw him live I saw his wisdom first hand
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 04, 2021, 04:28:44 pm
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/9bfc5ce570c1fa43a1b2a56364cca747/tenor.gif?itemid=10276341)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 07, 2021, 01:49:06 pm
(https://vaporasylum.com/attachments/46508288_10155953514065959_2973943868099133440_o-jpg.6362/)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 12, 2021, 12:40:31 pm
Rock & Roll Hall of Fame to Induct Jay-Z, Carole King, Go-Go’s, Tina Turner, Todd Rundgren and Foo Fighters
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on May 12, 2021, 12:44:24 pm
Todd Rundgren and Foo Fighters
Dads everywhere rejoice. When is Frank Turner eligible?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 26, 2021, 08:43:27 pm
‘Cause if Robert’s dad is right / We might not make it through the night / And I’d hate to go alone / Please pick up the phone (https://www.centraltrack.com/robert-jenkins-ranks-the-old-97s-songs-hes-named-in/)

there is a real Robert named in many old 97s songs
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on June 10, 2021, 11:27:13 am
Any Creem magazine readers here?  yes this a sign i'm old as dirt..

someone re-launched the brand and is selling merch, which i've been eyeing for awhile... decided to take the plunge on this one, apparently never sold to the general public until now... only available for three weeks for a pre-order

https://www.creemmag.com/collections/archive-collection-t-shirts/products/official-creem-join-the-band-t-shirt

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1770/5011/products/CREEM_JOINTHEBAND_FINAL-4-20-21_600x.jpg?v=1622836779)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on June 10, 2021, 11:33:27 am
That looks cool!



creem is a little before my time but didn’t completely whore out and garbagefy like rolling stone


So it retains some mystique

Not sure how many people under 50 will know anything about it

Are you trying to look cool at your retirement community? :)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 10, 2021, 11:38:31 am
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/613512fc91a00f3f08c87ae5817ed119/tenor.gif)

would look good with a cap and vest tho
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on June 10, 2021, 06:23:26 pm
perfect for sunday afternoon drives.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 14, 2021, 02:54:55 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E3swWXxXIAYpEch.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: StoneTheCrow on June 14, 2021, 04:19:46 pm
Any Creem magazine readers here?  yes this a sign i'm old as dirt..

someone re-launched the brand and is selling merch....

$45?? Ouch.

Sold my 1978 set of Creem magazines a few months ago. That’s not prime Creem, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on June 14, 2021, 04:42:38 pm
“Hipness” is expensive
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on June 15, 2021, 12:56:11 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E3swWXxXIAYpEch.jpg)

who's that between henry and rick?  looks a little like phil collen from def leppard...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on June 15, 2021, 12:57:21 pm
Joe Strummer
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 15, 2021, 12:59:59 pm
who's that between henry and rick?  looks a little like phil collen from def leppard...
Jules, you forgot to log back into your account
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on June 17, 2021, 09:45:23 am
Some seller seems to be selling new copies of the Frank Turner that guy 45 for $5

It’s usually a lot more and I always wanted one so picked it up

https://www.discogs.com/Frank-Turner-Song-For-Josh/release/7616341
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on June 17, 2021, 01:31:06 pm
how many can you ID in this pic? (you might need to click the image to get the full-size)

(https://i.imgur.com/PCNw0aE.jpeg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on June 17, 2021, 01:40:18 pm
I think the guy standing in the white shirt is Walky. Guessing the guy in the blue denim on the right is bearman.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on June 17, 2021, 01:41:48 pm
Third from the right, back row is Klinger.
Third from the left, back row is Matt Camden.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on June 17, 2021, 01:47:55 pm
how many can you ID in this pic? (you might need to click the image to get the full-size)

(https://i.imgur.com/PCNw0aE.jpeg)

That's a great pic... saw that on twitter this morning... or was it last night?

I can only imagine all of the powdery drugs consumed that evening.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on June 17, 2021, 01:48:01 pm
Seated, center is Justin Beiber's mugshot.
To his right is Charlie Brown.
To his left is Liza Minelli.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on June 17, 2021, 01:49:11 pm
Seated on purple chair, left is Matthew Broderick.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on June 17, 2021, 01:52:22 pm
I think the guy standing in the white shirt is Walky. Guessing the guy in the blue denim on the right is bearman.
I LOLed.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on June 17, 2021, 01:54:31 pm
Standing, second from the right is Kaley Cuoco.
Seated in front of her is Sacha Baron Cohen.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on June 17, 2021, 01:56:54 pm
Harry Styles in the back row, third from the left.. .next to Ashley Olsen
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on June 17, 2021, 02:18:01 pm
Harry Styles in the back row, third from the left.. .next to Ashley Olsen
Its fucking creepy as hell that the dude from Phoenix is holding Ashley Olsen. Is he a friend of the family? My pedo alarm is going off.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on June 17, 2021, 02:49:42 pm
Standing, second from the right is Kaley Cuoco.
Seated in front of her is Sacha Baron Cohen.

I thought that was hutch but you’re right it’s Sacha Baron Cohen!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on June 17, 2021, 02:50:55 pm
Just out of frame an anonymous and much murdered DJ wearing a cap and vest...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on June 17, 2021, 02:51:09 pm
Is that Yada next to Matthew Broderick?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on June 17, 2021, 03:02:24 pm
Is that Yada next to Matthew Broderick?
OK, two people in this thread have now made me openly cackle at work.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 17, 2021, 03:22:21 pm
Is that Yada next to Matthew Broderick?
I thought yada was the guy dead center next to walky?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on June 18, 2021, 01:38:55 pm
i wonder if this will prompt protests outside one of their shows..

Stereogum
@stereogum
Foo Fighters announce Bee Gees tribute album (as the Dee Gees) for Record Store Day

Which prompted this very pointed response

WarHen Records
@WarHenRecords
Shout out to all the DIY/Indie labels & bands whose projects will take a back seat to this dumbass record that no one asked for.

https://twitter.com/WarHenRecords/status/1405638412762288129?s=20
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on June 18, 2021, 01:44:28 pm
i wonder if this will prompt protests outside one of their shows..

Stereogum
@stereogum
Foo Fighters announce Bee Gees tribute album (as the Dee Gees) for Record Store Day

Which prompted this very pointed response

WarHen Records
@WarHenRecords
Shout out to all the DIY/Indie labels & bands whose projects will take a back seat to this dumbass record that no one asked for.

https://twitter.com/WarHenRecords/status/1405638412762288129?s=20 (https://twitter.com/WarHenRecords/status/1405638412762288129?s=20)

lol i just came here to post about this... the foos + disco = every boardee's album of the year!

Foo Fighters Releasing New Disco Album for Record Store Day 2021 (https://pitchfork.com/news/foo-fighters-releasing-new-disco-album-for-record-store-day-2021/amp/)
Introducing… the Dee Gees and their debut album Hail Satin
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on June 21, 2021, 01:08:28 pm
an interesting wander down a historical rabbit hole: Pitchfork reviews Pink Floyd's Meddle  (https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/pink-floyd-meddle/)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 28, 2021, 09:54:02 am
Hooky is auctioning off quite a few bits of history and lots of awards to raise funds for The Christie charity and Epilepsy Society.

http://www.omegaauctions.co.uk/news-media/news/the-peter-hook-signature-collection-2021/

 including the “Prophet 5 Keyboard And Poly Sequencer” which gave Blue Monday its sound,

Rare releases ...including test pressings including albums such as “Substance” and “Low Life” and singles “Bizarre Love Triangle”, “Perfect Kiss”, “True Faith”, “Fine Time”, “World In Motion” and acetates of “Thieves Like Us” from Quincy Jones’ Qwest.

There are signed releases as well as live CD’s and cassettes both from the group’s tours and live dates throughout Hooky’s career as well as original tape reels and master tapes dating back to the earliest days of the band.



Hutch...did you see New Order with Hooky in Argentina?
 and Hooky’s final audio rig “The End” from the farewell New Order concert in Buenos Aires November 2006.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on June 29, 2021, 01:05:27 pm
The Smithsonian Anthology of Hip Hop and Rap boxset is finally shipping next week.

I backed this on Kickstarter in 2017 and the original ship date was to be 12/2018.  But, stuff got in the way including the Covid so it's had a bumpy ride....

Thing is I got this when I still had a car with a CD player in, so was keen to have to it for the commute.  But, now guess I'll be ripping it for when I actually start commuting...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 29, 2021, 03:21:51 pm
does look pretty good https://folkways.si.edu/smithsonian-anthology-of-hip-hop-and-rap

Although I am kinda done by Disc 6
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on June 29, 2021, 03:38:18 pm
I’m looking forward to getting my mitts on it Folkways always pulls together stellar anthologies which why I jumped on board.  One of the many hold ups was securing rights from many labels, etc
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on June 30, 2021, 12:42:18 pm
and speaking of "boxsets" i'll be ripping in the future...

i ended up ordering all three of the latest Posies Geffen records re-issues from Omnivore Records, they added a goodly number of tracks from the Geffen years to make it worth getting my mitts on them.  also, they got screwed over by the Pledge Music bankruptcy on these, as they were in the middle of a campaign for them at the time...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 30, 2021, 08:56:28 pm
Eric Alper
I told a teenager today I used to get 8 CDs or 12 cassettes for a penny in the mail, and I'm not sure if she thinks I'm lying about what a CD or cassette was, what a penny is, or what the mail is or all four.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on July 09, 2021, 04:29:07 pm
Too many words about somebody that I used to know ten years ago. (https://www.stereogum.com/2151661/gotye-somebody-that-i-used-to-know-10th-anniversary-oral-history-kimbra/interviews/oral-history/)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on July 12, 2021, 12:24:05 am
(https://i.ibb.co/y6mHQY3/blotto.jpg)

1979


(https://i.ibb.co/8Xsncy8/neutral-milk-hotel.jpg)

1998

 ???
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Bagley on July 12, 2021, 05:07:22 pm
Wow.... Blotto!  Brings back some memories of my youth in Albany, NY circa 1980.  They were inducted into the highly prestigious Capital Region Thomas Edison Music Hall of Fame last year.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 12, 2021, 05:21:10 pm
who could forget
 I want to be a lifeguard
 https://youtu.be/CBRJ6jQfap0
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on July 12, 2021, 06:23:58 pm
Paid $11 for the CD on A****n then saw that the band sells it for $6 post paid on ebay.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 15, 2021, 01:48:40 pm
Veruca Salt’s Louise Post Details The Origins Of “Everlong,” The Foo Fighters Hit About Her (https://www.stereogum.com/2153963/veruca-salt-louise-post-foo-fighters-everlong/music/)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Bagley on August 06, 2021, 01:02:54 pm
for those of you on the fence:

setlist from the first night of the Wilco tour-

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/wilco/2021/first-interstate-center-for-the-arts-spokane-wa-1b8f75a4.html
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 06, 2021, 01:07:22 pm
shame they aren't playing anything from Being There...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on August 08, 2021, 12:46:17 pm
Theme Time Radio, a complete archive of the 100+ Dylan radio shows. (http://www.themetimeradio.com/)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on August 09, 2021, 11:34:40 am
British Sea Power are now just Sea Power to avoid “antagonistic nationalism”

https://seapowerband.com/news/goodbye-british-sea-power-hello-sea-power
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 09, 2021, 11:47:13 am
British Sea Power are now just Sea Power to avoid “antagonistic nationalism”

https://seapowerband.com/news/goodbye-british-sea-power-hello-sea-power
Oh, good grief.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on August 09, 2021, 01:24:29 pm
https://www.lamag.com/culturefiles/ryan-adams/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 09, 2021, 01:31:15 pm
whoa, looks like he's been on a steady diet of Krispy Kreams
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 09, 2021, 01:49:36 pm
https://www.lamag.com/culturefiles/ryan-adams/
Good read.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 09, 2021, 01:50:00 pm
whoa, looks like he's been on a steady diet of Krispy Kreams
Clearly massively depressed. Says as much in the article.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 11, 2021, 07:45:05 am
https://www.stereogum.com/2156996/gorillaz-nhs-concert-london/news/

Gorillaz brought out Robert Smith, slowthai, Popcaan, Little Simz, EARTHGANG, Peter Hook, AJ Tracey, and many more at the first of two free shows for NHS workers at the O2 arena
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on August 16, 2021, 01:15:13 pm
so as not to clutter up the movie thread.. i looked up the "the soul jazz of little stevie wonder" and it was his second album which he recorded when he was 12!!!!! the album is streaming on the interwebs

anyways the original recording of fingertips with flute solo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sMQxFs6H-c
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: vansmack on August 16, 2021, 04:57:59 pm
British Sea Power are now just Sea Power to avoid “antagonistic nationalism”

https://seapowerband.com/news/goodbye-british-sea-power-hello-sea-power
Oh, good grief.

That's the best you could do?  How about "so it's never coming home then?"....
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 16, 2021, 05:28:06 pm
British Sea Power are now just Sea Power to avoid “antagonistic nationalism”

https://seapowerband.com/news/goodbye-british-sea-power-hello-sea-power
Oh, good grief.

That's the best you could do?  How about "so it's never coming home then?"....
Admittedly: a better retort to that nonsense. I must have been off my A-game.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on August 18, 2021, 08:11:57 am
Anyone else watch the "This Is Pop" documentary series on Netflix?

Overall I would give it a B as some episode were far more interesting then others.

  As mentioned in the Listening to thread, the one that turned to probably the best was the "When Country Goes Pop" hosted by Orville Peck.  The Britpop episode was weighed down by the umpteenth rehashing of the Oasis vs Blur chart battle, etc. 

The Protest song episode had the usual suspects Billy Bragg talking about Woody Guthrie, Public Enemy, etc.  But did include MILCK "Quiet" song which was a great addition. The episode on festivals was ok, except for the bit on the US festival. 

The episodes on Boyz II Men and the Swedish Songwriters\Producers cranking many of the current hits didn't really reveal anything groundbreaking. 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 18, 2021, 03:40:52 pm
speaking of one note guitar solos...
https://youtu.be/z8IGGylTjOk
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on August 18, 2021, 04:04:05 pm
speaking of one note guitar solos...
https://youtu.be/z8IGGylTjOk

first solo: there are multiple notes, due to bending.  FAIL.
second solo: i hesitate to call that part a solo... but fine.  WIN, i guess.
third solo: legit.  WIN (although some might say the use of the wah is cheating...)
fourth solo: uh... "a few seconds later"?  how convenient to skip THE OTHER NOTES.  FAIL.
fifth solo:  legit.  WIN.

60% - barely a passing grade.  we need better next time.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: vansmack on August 18, 2021, 04:24:10 pm
Anyone else watch the "This Is Pop" documentary series on Netflix?

Overall I would give it a B as some episode were far more interesting then others.

  As mentioned in the Listening to thread, the one that turned to probably the best was the "When Country Goes Pop" hosted by Orville Peck.  The Britpop episode was weighed down by the umpteenth rehashing of the Oasis vs Blur chart battle, etc. 

The Protest song episode had the usual suspects Billy Bragg talking about Woody Guthrie, Public Enemy, etc.  But did include MILCK "Quiet" song which was a great addition. The episode on festivals was ok, except for the bit on the US festival. 

The episodes on Boyz II Men and the Swedish Songwriters\Producers cranking many of the current hits didn't really reveal anything groundbreaking. 

Finished it last night actually. 

Auto-tune was my least favorite episode and When Country Goes Pop was probably my favorite:

(1) When Country Goes Pop
(2) Stockholm Syndrome
(3) Festival Rising
(4) What Can a Song Do
(5) Brit Pop
(6) Brill Building
(7) Boyz II Men
(8) Auto-tune

What can a song do would have been higher, but the Hozier story felt forced and would have been better to end on MILCK.  Agree that the Brit Pop story was like a USA Today story or British tabloid, nothing else.  I liked Stockholm more than you apparently, even though The Brand hasn't stopped listening to ABBA since we watched it.  Also, when country goes pop should have included more Tay-Tay/Kacey like stories, but was still really good.  In the Brill building episode, I spent way too much time trying to remember where I knew Linda Perry from, I know it wasn't producing Gwen Stefani songs, but then realized it was because I blocked her and her band completely from my life.   
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on August 18, 2021, 06:52:48 pm
The problem with the auto-tune episode was they should have just focused on how it’s just another tool used in the recording process, but instead they got all philosophical about it.  Instead of highlighting  the reaction to T-pain’s Tiny Desk Concert, they should shown him winning Masked Singer instead

They only alluded to how vocals had been recorded prior to auto-tune… I.e. Bowie being one of the rare ones who could do one or two take vocals, or singers use to sing flat and they compensated with arrangements behind them..

Both the inclusion of Hozier and Linda Perry  seemed really forced… and was surprised Kacey didn’t get mentioned, but Neko did instead which was good

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on August 18, 2021, 07:48:15 pm
I also liked the country episode best, which probably comes as a surprise to no one.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on August 19, 2021, 01:44:15 am
everyone take a deep breath, visualize your happy place, and know that there is a way forward through the struggle:

How to Tell a Loved One They’re Coiling Cables Wrong (https://thehardtimes.net/blog/how-to-tell-a-loved-one-theyre-coiling-cables-wrong/)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: vansmack on August 19, 2021, 12:07:24 pm
Also, to treat New Edition as a passing comment in the Boyz II Men episode was criminal and probably why I stuck so far at the bottom.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on August 19, 2021, 12:13:55 pm
Also, to treat New Edition as a passing comment in the Boyz II Men episode was criminal and probably why I stuck so far at the bottom.

Considering they hired Bivens as their manager,  I think it was a given how much impact they had on the Boyz from Philly.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on August 19, 2021, 12:17:38 pm
I've got a voluntary, fun work assignment. Pasted below. Anybody have any good suggestions?



Share Labor Day Lyrics:  There are lots of songs that focus on work and labor, and maybe even some that focus on economics or statistics.  Identify your favorite and share the lyrics. 

Here’s an example:

I got a job working construction for the Johnstown Company.
But lately there ain’t been much work on account of the economy.
Bruce Springsteen – The River
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 19, 2021, 12:30:34 pm
take this job and shove it might have some good gems
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on August 19, 2021, 12:31:33 pm
somewhere Coldplay is kicking themselves over this...  "Dammit why didn't we think of this, to  go along with the box of the same album on different colored cassettes"

Lorde is bringing us yet another new format... The "Discless Music Box" at twice the price of a regular CD a steal at 24.98 list...  as it pointed even more expensive than an actual book...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on August 19, 2021, 12:40:09 pm
take this job and shove it might have some good gems

They said to list three. Combine that one with Career Opportunities by the Clash, and I'm two-thirds of the way there.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on August 19, 2021, 12:51:27 pm
Don't Worry About the Government

I see the states, across this big nation
I see the laws made in Washington, D.C.
I think of the ones I consider my favorites
I think of the people that are working for me

Some civil servants are just like my loved ones
They work so hard and they try to be strong
I'm a lucky guy to live in my building
They own the buildings to help them along
It's over there, it's over there

My building has every convenience
It's gonna make life easy for me
It's gonna be easy to get things done
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on August 19, 2021, 12:55:59 pm
speaking of CDs... if I had a CD player in the car I'd consider this from Light In The Attic...

https://lightintheattic.net/releases/8072-light-in-the-attic-cd-revival-sale

CDs are back, baby, and we’re celebrating with a limited secret bundle sale! $100 (plus shipping) gets you a random 15 CD bundle of LITA classics, rare gems, and more! Only available for a week (8/17-23), don’t miss out! From Hazlewood to Hosono, and Armchair Boogie to Zulu Rock, you never know what could end up in your bundle!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on August 19, 2021, 12:56:50 pm
Chain Gang
Murder the Government
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on August 19, 2021, 01:13:11 pm
oh heck... bought one of the LITA CD bundles can always pass them along to a local book sale....
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: vansmack on August 19, 2021, 02:51:54 pm
Here’s an example:

I got a job working construction for the Johnstown Company.
But lately there ain’t been much work on account of the economy.
Bruce Springsteen – The River

Perfect example for government work:

“Now, I’ve never held an honest job in my entire life, I’ve never done any hard labor. I’ve never worked 9 to 5. I’ve never worked five days a week until right now.”

Big laugh.

“I don’t like it!”

Big laugh.

“I’ve never seen the inside of a factory, and yet it’s all I’ve ever written about. Standing before you is a man who has become wildly and absurdly successful writing about something of which he has had absolutely no personal experience.”

Big laugh.

“I made it all up.”

Big laugh.

“That’s how good I am.”

- Bruce Springsteen on Broadway
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: vansmack on August 19, 2021, 02:55:13 pm
Working Man by Rush

9 to 5 by Dolly PArton

Almost every Merle Haggard song that wasn't a love song?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 19, 2021, 04:35:15 pm
godfather of the modern conservative movement take on the beatles 1964
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9J0FRRWQAcaR_M?format=png&name=4096x4096)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on August 24, 2021, 09:46:17 pm
speaking of one note guitar solos...
https://youtu.be/z8IGGylTjOk

first solo: there are multiple notes, due to bending.  FAIL.
second solo: i hesitate to call that part a solo... but fine.  WIN, i guess.
third solo: legit.  WIN (although some might say the use of the wah is cheating...)
fourth solo: uh... "a few seconds later"?  how convenient to skip THE OTHER NOTES.  FAIL.
fifth solo:  legit.  WIN.

60% - barely a passing grade.  we need better next time.

CCR's "Tombstone Shadow" just popped up on my iTunes. Fabulous one-note solo double-tracked and in unison!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on August 25, 2021, 12:06:24 am
see?  this is the quality we expect.  would have gotten double points for including Tombstone.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Bagley on August 25, 2021, 03:29:23 pm
Any Zappa fans out there?

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/dweezil-zappa-gear-frank-zappa/

Fascinating interview and show and tell guitar session with Dweezil  (amazing axe collection)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on August 26, 2021, 01:49:12 pm
Any Zappa fans out there?

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/dweezil-zappa-gear-frank-zappa/ (https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/dweezil-zappa-gear-frank-zappa/)

Fascinating interview and show and tell guitar session with Dweezil  (amazing axe collection)

nice, enjoyed that.  some crazy mods in there...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on August 26, 2021, 02:33:17 pm
The kids on Metafilter, on 30 Years of Ten (https://www.metafilter.com/192451/30-Years-Of-Ten)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on August 27, 2021, 12:14:29 pm
https://www.ocregister.com/2013/10/11/after-years-of-vigilance-guitar-player-gets-his-ricky-back/

After years of vigilance, guitar player gets his ‘Ricky’ back

guitar player gets his 1966 Rickenbacker back which was stolen out of a storage unit.   After years of checking ebay, etc it turns up for action and the person selling it was the singer from the Coral who had bought it in a guitar shop in Paris. 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on August 27, 2021, 12:21:21 pm
Nice story
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on August 27, 2021, 05:48:09 pm
A great read:
https://www.nplusonemag.com/online-only/online-only/in-the-dead-archives/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on August 29, 2021, 11:21:44 am
(https://i.ibb.co/MpbFHMX/Screen-Shot-2021-08-29-at-11-20-01-AM.png) (https://twitter.com/GlennyRodge/status/870518828135874561)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 29, 2021, 05:27:05 pm
(https://starecat.com/content/wp-content/uploads/we-will-we-will-rock-you-wii-console-will-smith-the-rock.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: WALKonBack on August 29, 2021, 09:53:41 pm
brill,iant
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on August 30, 2021, 01:34:22 pm
speaking of CDs... if I had a CD player in the car I'd consider this from Light In The Attic...

https://lightintheattic.net/releases/8072-light-in-the-attic-cd-revival-sale

CDs are back, baby, and we’re celebrating with a limited secret bundle sale! $100 (plus shipping) gets you a random 15 CD bundle of LITA classics, rare gems, and more! Only available for a week (8/17-23), don’t miss out! From Hazlewood to Hosono, and Armchair Boogie to Zulu Rock, you never know what could end up in your bundle!

my pack of CD from Light In The Attic landed on my doorstep...

at a quick glance, I got two Lee Hazelwood, two Jim Sullivan, two Haruomi Hosono, PIL - Public Image (expanded version of debut). five compilations, and 3 totally new to me artists Charles "Packy' Axton, Karin Krog and Ray Stinnett
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on September 01, 2021, 10:39:30 am
Carcerts: Coming soon to a clarb near you (https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2021/08/31/west-baltimore-native-promoting-local-artists-while-on-the-go-in-new-web-series-carcerts/)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 01, 2021, 10:41:31 am
bad spellers UNIGHT!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on September 02, 2021, 12:39:44 pm
I shouldn't make fun of guys so young, but I guess when you're in your early 20s, 2 years can still seem like forever.

College Park band T.M.M. reflects on the journey to their third album (https://dbknews.com/2021/09/02/tmm-college-park-band-third-album/)

"Dad music"?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Cock Van Der Palm on September 02, 2021, 01:23:46 pm
I'm a Dad and I would never share that music with anyone.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 02, 2021, 02:23:03 pm
I didn't even need to listen to them to assess that

who would ever say this in an interview...jez guys, who is the audience for this

“A good way to understand T.M.M.’s music is they try to make the type of songs that your dad would show you and want you to enjoy,” Ball said

is it stuff that would make dad seem super hip to his kids...so the music is really for the kids but Dad is the conduit
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on September 03, 2021, 12:00:27 pm
(https://slippedisc.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/carnegie-hall.jpg)

New Carnegie Hall logo...

Mmm, donuts...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: StoneTheCrow on September 03, 2021, 01:14:56 pm
I'm a Dad and I would never share that music with anyone.

As a dad with great musical taste I agree wholeheartedly.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 03, 2021, 01:50:20 pm
I'm a Dad and I would never share that music with anyone.

As a dad with great musical taste I agree wholeheartedly.
that's a twist I didn't see coming...Jeffml is Stonthecrows Dad!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: StoneTheCrow on September 03, 2021, 05:44:27 pm
Won’t let me post past 8pm on a school night. So unfair.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on September 04, 2021, 11:09:03 pm
Nick Cave is touring with Warren Ellis


Some fantastic set lists in that it’s not the same Golden oldies

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/nick-cave-and-warren-ellis/2021/fairfield-halls-croydon-england-338c38f5.html

I read tickets are like close to 100 pounds! $130!!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Cock Van Der Palm on September 04, 2021, 11:49:45 pm
I heard it was closer to 100 quid
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 05, 2021, 10:01:06 am
I heard it was closer to 45.3592 Kilos
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Cock Van Der Palm on September 05, 2021, 11:17:00 am
Yeah. But how many stone?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 05, 2021, 03:14:15 pm
4st 7lb
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 08, 2021, 11:41:57 am
made a little playlist to celebrate the return of live music

Dancin' on the Green Line (Part 3)

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5kXs9EF0I9qRCCPd8LqmZI?si=b740a09e176b4d32
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on September 08, 2021, 11:54:11 am
Is it short?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 08, 2021, 12:13:56 pm
14 song 50 minutes

Take Me to the Good Times - The Suffers
Another Saturday Night- Sam Cooke
Love Overdue - Tanika Charles
I'm On My Way - Dean Parrish
I'm a Sinner - Bette Smith
Are You With Me? - Brooke Combe
Flaws and All- DeRobert & the Half-Truths
Put It on the Record- Nick Pride & The Pimptones
Sad Boi- Seratones
Good Vibes Only- Muzi
Something Bout The Night - Jay Diggs
Tonight You Might feat. Lady Wray- Synthia
I Don't Need No Doctor - PM Warson
Jimmy's Groove - Delvon Lamarr Organ Trio
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 08, 2021, 12:30:30 pm
I think it was ref to the length of greenline, not the mix...was really not a great joke
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 08, 2021, 12:38:46 pm
I think it was ref to the length of greenline, not the mix...was really not a great joke

well it is shorter at the moment...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 14, 2021, 02:00:28 pm
the thing i learned recently is that the Toni Basil song Micky is based on the British Glam Rock band Racey's Kitty... was listening to a Racey Greatest hits and was like woah nelly... Mike Chapman and Nicky Chinn pop geniuses

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLDr5bdAhkc
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 14, 2021, 02:41:09 pm
Dancin' on the Green Line (Part 3)
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5kXs9EF0I9qRCCPd8LqmZI?si=b740a09e176b4d32
Quite enjoyable
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Cock Van Der Palm on September 14, 2021, 05:04:54 pm
Top 10 most annoying song ever?

the thing i learned recently is that the Toni Basil song Micky is based on the British Glam Rock band Racey's Kitty... was listening to a Racey Greatest hits and was like woah nelly... Mike Chapman and Nicky Chinn pop geniuses

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLDr5bdAhkc
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 14, 2021, 05:22:56 pm
Top 10 most annoying song ever?

the thing i learned recently is that the Toni Basil song Micky is based on the British Glam Rock band Racey's Kitty... was listening to a Racey Greatest hits and was like woah nelly... Mike Chapman and Nicky Chinn pop geniuses

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLDr5bdAhkc

I don't know, I always kinda liked it...yes it's annoying

But man that is almost an exact coppy, why didn't racey sue?
it's not based on Kitty...it pretty much is the same song, most of the lyrics are the same
When I think of some of the lawsuits artists have brung, this one should be an open an shut case


Ok, didn't realize she credited them ...and likely paid them pennies for such a big hit

she did sue other people for using her songLegal claims
On 31 August 2017, Basil filed a multi-claim lawsuit against Razor & Tie Direct, Forever 21, Disney, Viacom, VH1, and South Park. Basil alleged that the defendants had commercially used the song "Mickey" without a license and damaged her right of publicity, claiming excess of $25,000 in damages. Basil also filed a lawsuit against AMC on 12 May 2020 for the unauthorized use of "Mickey" in a trailer for Preacher. On 27 August 2020, a California state of appeals court affirmed dismissal of Basil's case.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on September 14, 2021, 07:44:00 pm
She also recorded it in Spanish (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BacyphpxYSo) (YouTube link)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 14, 2021, 08:11:09 pm
Well Racey like many glam bands of the time were doing Chapman and chinn songs so they wouldn’t have much of a lawsuit.. the songwriters also got the royalties for Mickey
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 15, 2021, 06:18:09 am
Rick Astley is joining forces with Blossoms to do The Smiths and based on this rehearsal clip and some live footage this could really work.  I saw someone  suggest The Smiths reform with Rick, but let’s not get carried away

https://www.instagram.com/p/CTzqm4FKxjv/

update:  not a fan of crowd shot live videos but this does hint that this partnership will work, the band is sounding very smiths like for instance.

https://youtu.be/XluAp8yEhZ8

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on September 15, 2021, 05:53:22 pm
https://www.instagram.com/p/CT26FezlOAa/?utm_medium=copy_link
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 15, 2021, 08:30:37 pm
https://www.instagram.com/p/CT26FezlOAa/?utm_medium=copy_link
To be fair, I do look like a guy you’d give acid to.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 16, 2021, 02:28:01 pm
Johnny is pissed and apparently blew ALL his money on lawyers trying to stop the creation of the Pistol tv show
the rest of the band tried to get him involved, but he refused and decided to sue...how very punk rock

one of my favorites.but, he's being a whiny bitch
https://www.nme.com/news/music/john-lydon-says-he-is-in-financial-ruin-after-losing-court-case-against-fellow-sex-pistols-3046126
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on September 16, 2021, 03:09:51 pm
I saw a TV interview about this

I think it’s all a bit of an act like it always has been… yet people keep falling for it like the 137th time!

I mean probably he doesn’t like precedent meaning he no longer has veto power over everything but do we really think he spent his money fighting this in court? I can’t see it….

But he wants to promote himself and might even be trying to promote movie. Let’s face it: a movie like this is long overdue … I mean I didn’t even know there was a movie based on Jonesy’s book being made….now we all do… Lydon is too smart not to realize this

The important thing is I saw him on some British tv channel and he looked great…healthy… I seen pictures last few years where he looks like Jabba

Am sorry to hear about Nora. John mentioning her in tv interview made me sad…of course he married a much older woman but got to suck if you are in your sixties and your wife is in her late 70s/80s with Alzheimers

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Post by: Starsky on September 16, 2021, 03:32:47 pm
My guess: this is all an act and around the movie coming out they bury the hatchet in public and tour one last time as the Sex Pistols for a final retirement check… we have to keep in mind Lydon has been playing U St Hall and Black Cat! Cook is touring small places with the Professionals, Matlock plays coffee houses and Jonesy does radio. They all can use the money.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on September 16, 2021, 04:13:34 pm
I know I am talking with myself but what I don’t get is why Lydon’s first autobiography wasn’t made into a movie? That’s the best book about this shit.. I could turn that into a great movie

Instead Disney buys Jonesy’s book rights?

I never understand Hollywood
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 16, 2021, 05:14:24 pm
I know I am talking with myself but what I don’t get is why Lydon’s first autobiography wasn’t made into a movie? That’s the best book about this shit.. I could turn that into a great movie

Instead Disney buys Jonesy’s book rights?

I never understand Hollywood
I agree, Lydon's first book is great and yes they could have made a movie from that too
but it was all about johnny and barely talked about the rest of the band (it's been 15 years since I read it)

But Jonesy's book is fantastic...but has very little Johnny in it
and honestly most of it is total flattery and admission that Johnny was a huge part of it all

but Johnny always makes it about him,
It was great to hear Jones' take on it all and how the sound of the pistols came together
as the music on NMTB is really tight (even though the press was like "they don't know how to play their instruments") and was interesting to hear how johnny didn't write all the lyrics
I love hearing how it all came together from someone else besides Johnny or Malcom...who both talk in Hyperbole 24/7

I've said it before and I'll say it agian...you really have to get the Audio book on this with Jonesy delivering all these great stories
one of my favorites of all time
Honestly think that the moive is going to have a hard time re telling that
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: StoneTheCrow on September 16, 2021, 06:47:00 pm
Lydon:  “This became Walt Disney money versus me. Who do you think’s gonna win?”

Well, yeah.  So why go through it and put yourself in financial ruin, Johnny? No one to blame but yourself for that.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on September 16, 2021, 06:48:27 pm
Because he didn’t…. It’s all BS


Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: StoneTheCrow on September 16, 2021, 06:52:13 pm
What isn't BS: there was an interview he did with Tom Snyder back in 97 or so (and this used to be on youtube) where, iirc, he stated he did the final tour and sold his share in the Pistols because "ya gotta put it to bed and move on". And that's apparently how he lost his right to a veto.

C'est la vie....
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on September 16, 2021, 07:01:31 pm
I didn’t know that…I never understand any of that stuff…

I really like John Lydon but I don’t put a lot of stock in his public statements.

Come to think of it what was he doing being interviewed in England? I thought he lived in L.A.?

Answer: doing a 60 date UK Q & A tour

This has to be his longest UK tour ever…and it started like the same week - this week- he came out with these statements

He is just trying to move tickets



Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 16, 2021, 08:52:52 pm
He is just trying to move tickets
(https://c.tenor.com/t_vEITfAXjMAAAAM/nose-tap-amazons.gif)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 16, 2021, 08:59:06 pm
Rick Astley is joining forces with Blossoms to do The Smiths
not sure who said it, but I love it
‘I wouldn’t have thought I’d be saying this 30 years ago, but Rick Astley is better than Morrissey in every way I can think of’
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 17, 2021, 10:52:10 am
Rick Astley is joining forces with Blossoms to do The Smiths
not sure who said it, but I love it
‘I wouldn’t have thought I’d be saying this 30 years ago, but Rick Astley is better than Morrissey in every way I can think of’


Marr has weighed on the concert vid, saying "This is both funny and horrible at the same time."
https://twitter.com/Johnny_Marr/status/1438842357177274369?s=20

in the comments he also says  "Well, I met The Blossoms a few weeks ago and they elected to not mention it. Nice."

"Didn’t mention when we were hanging out a few weeks ago. Must’ve slipped their minds."

and there is also a show on the 25th where Marr and the Blossoms play back to back.... the UK music press will be eating this one up...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on September 19, 2021, 10:07:45 am
(https://i.ibb.co/k9TT26d/Screen-Shot-2021-09-19-at-10-05-19-AM.png) (https://twitter.com/AoDespair/status/1439590863278051328?s=20)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on September 19, 2021, 06:06:05 pm
^ savage
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on September 20, 2021, 06:57:26 pm
Nice first set list for Genesis

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/genesis/2021/utilita-arena-birmingham-birmingham-england-7b8c5688.html?fbclid=IwAR2REtiejuBSQNMSpbbU_0nXkq0WWPE1lHVPyAvo4nAv0WgAM00_LArRohQ
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on September 21, 2021, 07:13:05 am
Nice first set list for Genesis

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/genesis/2021/utilita-arena-birmingham-birmingham-england-7b8c5688.html?fbclid=IwAR2REtiejuBSQNMSpbbU_0nXkq0WWPE1lHVPyAvo4nAv0WgAM00_LArRohQ

Looks to me like a stage is the last place on earth Phil Collins should be. Hopefully he doesn't end up in the dropping like flies thread while performing.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on September 21, 2021, 08:19:44 am
Kind of agree but tour is happening


Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Bagley on September 21, 2021, 10:28:46 am
no idea what the headliners sound like but it's a great band name....

https://www.eventbrite.com/e/shred-flintstone-tickets-169548739845e
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on September 21, 2021, 11:06:02 am
no idea what the headliners sound like but it's a great band name....

https://www.eventbrite.com/e/shred-flintstone-tickets-169548739845e

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR86kljpV-M
Watch in 1080p
Video by Spaghetti Jesus
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 21, 2021, 04:53:19 pm
The Rolling Stones played a private gig for Robert Kraft that served as the unofficial debut of new touring drummer Steve Jordan (https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/rolling-stones-charlie-watts-first-show-without-1230130/?fbclid=IwAR2puGjtcQAH3pfIqw2_yTuNthxT1im2qfKj-nvMFWlCcqXw810YWeDwAnQ)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 21, 2021, 05:10:06 pm
The Rolling Stones played a private gig for Robert Kraft that served as the unofficial debut of new touring drummer Steve Jordan (https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/rolling-stones-charlie-watts-first-show-without-1230130/?fbclid=IwAR2puGjtcQAH3pfIqw2_yTuNthxT1im2qfKj-nvMFWlCcqXw810YWeDwAnQ)
Surprise at the Club must be next for the Stones.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on September 21, 2021, 06:08:14 pm
The Rolling Stones played a private gig for Robert Kraft that served as the unofficial debut of new touring drummer Steve Jordan (https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/rolling-stones-charlie-watts-first-show-without-1230130/?fbclid=IwAR2puGjtcQAH3pfIqw2_yTuNthxT1im2qfKj-nvMFWlCcqXw810YWeDwAnQ)
Surprise at the Club must be next for the Stones.

POTW. Very clever.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 28, 2021, 04:06:35 pm
"Mr. Trump’s handlers designated an unnamed White House official known as the 'Music Man' to play him his favorite show tunes, including 'Memory' from 'Cats,' to pull him from the brink of rage."
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on September 28, 2021, 05:21:49 pm
"Mark your calendar or set your VCR (?). "Anacostia Delta: The Legacy of DC's TeleMasters" makes it broadcast premier Saturday at 9 p.m. on @marylandpubtv. It's all about string-slinger Danny Gatton -- and this area's other guitar gods. "

https://t.co/dOomC6bLez
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 29, 2021, 02:44:58 pm
Eno's 8 fav songs (https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/brian-eno-eight-songs-couldnt-live-without/)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on September 29, 2021, 03:04:52 pm
Damn that’s a deep list!

Fairuz of all people..got a cd of hers..maybe I should listen to it
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 30, 2021, 05:42:35 pm
So who is getting their mitts on this new 16 CD boxset of rare DC r&b, doowop, soul, etc, so I can borrow it for six months… the thing looks really well done, but yikes on the price…

https://www.bear-family.com/various-history-r-b-in-dc-1940-1960-rhythm-blues-doo-wop-rockin-rhythm-and-more-16-cd-deluxe-box-set.html
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on September 30, 2021, 05:50:39 pm
Decent chance my library at UMD will get one.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on October 01, 2021, 09:52:31 am
Hey cool!
It's the Courtney Barnett stem mixer! (https://courtneybarnett.com.au/stemmixer)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on October 01, 2021, 09:57:53 am
Hey cool!
It's the Courtney Barnett stem mixer! (https://courtneybarnett.com.au/stemmixer)

Friday time waster thread >>>>>
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 01, 2021, 10:05:58 am
cool poster
(https://scontent-iad3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t45.5328-4/p960x960/243171002_3931943886906031_8577522253049771134_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=c48759&_nc_ohc=JqVc00gND1IAX_0s2N_&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-2.xx&oh=c07faa557a9316ef1f1a48f5cc3efd53&oe=615BD8A4)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on October 01, 2021, 10:13:05 am
Is it?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: challenged on October 01, 2021, 10:13:24 am
cool poster
(https://scontent-iad3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t45.5328-4/p960x960/243171002_3931943886906031_8577522253049771134_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=c48759&_nc_ohc=JqVc00gND1IAX_0s2N_&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-2.xx&oh=c07faa557a9316ef1f1a48f5cc3efd53&oe=615BD8A4)

Yes, but belongs in the Poster thread.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on October 01, 2021, 01:27:04 pm
(https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/p843x403/243400275_1933364230147493_3989356397917124990_n.png?_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=2c4854&_nc_eui2=AeGuek3-ygZcf_DDUwxuTVdwln6irFnye4GWfqKsWfJ7gTi9Rr3xiZs_s_ETfhoWbt4&_nc_ohc=IMhYJ6JdYp8AX-yRtCO&_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.xx&oh=db271b4c4d03573dce15f49c15fc063c&oe=617E72F9)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on October 01, 2021, 01:29:28 pm
so the lads from Wigan The Lathums just landed in the number one spot on the UK charts with their debut record!!!

but the shenanigans they get up for charting a record over there..  like releasing a deluxe digital version two days after the formal release

oh well they deserve it, growing a huge base via social media during a pandemic is a feat

and yeah the "return of guitar music" 

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: vansmack on October 01, 2021, 01:45:29 pm
Kendrick Lamar, Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg to Share Super Bowl Halftime.   The N.F.L. announced the three Southern California natives will share billing with Mary J. Blige and Eminem at Super Bowl LVI in Los Angeles.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on October 01, 2021, 01:48:38 pm
wow - stacked lineup. too bad they'll all have to share 20-30 minutes.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 01, 2021, 01:51:19 pm
wow - stacked lineup. too bad they'll all have to share 20-30 minutes.
I know, will they all get to sing a snippet of their hits and on to the next
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on October 05, 2021, 09:34:44 am
so as not to clutter up the Hey Seth thread this is as close to a Talking Heads reunion as we are likely to see..

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FAVexo7XIAQp_Vm?format=jpg&name=large)


Chris Frantz
@ChrisFrantzTTC
·
Sep 27
Life is good. Jerry and Carol Harrison came by for a lovely visit today.

https://twitter.com/ChrisFrantzTTC/status/1442663638192558080?s=20
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 05, 2021, 10:22:51 am
for a second I thought that was robert plant and was like...WTF happened to Alison Krauss in the last year

and never say never... If someone waves a 1 million check for each band mate...I think they might reconsider
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on October 06, 2021, 12:57:33 pm
So who is getting their mitts on this new 16 CD boxset of rare DC r&b, doowop, soul, etc, so I can borrow it for six months… the thing looks really well done, but yikes on the price…

https://www.bear-family.com/various-history-r-b-in-dc-1940-1960-rhythm-blues-doo-wop-rockin-rhythm-and-more-16-cd-deluxe-box-set.html


i took the plunge on this one and ordered it from a local online store and it should arrive tomorrow...  took a listen to the some of the songs the WaPo highlighted in their story about the collection and am intrigued to hear the other 400 tracks included.  the book with it looks amazing and i honestly think I will donate this to a local library system at some point



https://spintimerecords.com/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on October 07, 2021, 04:54:22 pm
Music / Comedy Twitter Thread of the Year: okay okay OKAY i’ll list Rolling Stone’s 500 Worst Albums (https://twitter.com/blainecapatch/status/1446148140264923141?s=20)

Don't TL;DR it; just keep the tab open and read a few at a time.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on October 07, 2021, 07:52:54 pm
Kickstarter, fully funded (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/stevegadlin/the-fart-pedal/#)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on October 14, 2021, 10:35:23 am
I thought Paul was older and wiser than this.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/music/2021/10/13/paul-mccartney-says-rolling-stones-a-blues-cover-band/8439133002/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on October 14, 2021, 12:50:28 pm
I thought Paul was older and wiser than this.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/music/2021/10/13/paul-mccartney-says-rolling-stones-a-blues-cover-band/8439133002/

After a certain age I give people a pass on saying stupid shit


But is he that wrong?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on October 14, 2021, 12:57:57 pm
I thought Paul was older and wiser than this.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/music/2021/10/13/paul-mccartney-says-rolling-stones-a-blues-cover-band/8439133002/

After a certain age I give people a pass on saying stupid shit


But is he that wrong?

What age do I need to hit?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on October 14, 2021, 01:11:51 pm
I am thinking like 75….

Sometimes when people get older they begin to speak more frankly….too frankly

Although I would think Paul’s team has to approve everything before it goes to print

It’s just the media making a big deal of the obvious: last week’s story that Lennon broke up the Beatles was just Paul restating what was said fifty years ago. John did break up the Beatles!

Now we are going to question that the Beatles drew from a wider source of music than the Stones?

But I guess some things are better left unsaid
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 14, 2021, 01:18:26 pm
I thought Paul was older and wiser than this.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/music/2021/10/13/paul-mccartney-says-rolling-stones-a-blues-cover-band/8439133002/

After a certain age I give people a pass on saying stupid shit
so we can't make fun of old people, but we can excuse them for doing stupid things...not sure how this is supposed to work?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on October 14, 2021, 01:37:18 pm


Just speaking for myself if someone is old I give them a pass on some stuff

Now if they are in politics it’s a bit different
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on October 14, 2021, 01:48:15 pm
Charley Drayton is Bob Dylan’s new drummer
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on October 15, 2021, 10:48:48 am
God bless the wonderful Sebastian Bach...

Having a public persona often provides artists a platform to share their views, but it doesn't mean that it won't come without opposition. So when one musician, Staind's Aaron Lewis, used the concert stage to lead a "Fuck Joe Biden" chant in the president's birthplace and later blamed Democrats for "every fucking scar on this country," a rebuttal recently came from Sebastian Bach, who served up an F-bomb response right back.

"I just think for any meathead, ignorant musician that wants to get their crowd chanting, 'Fuck Joe Biden,' okay, anybody who wants to do that, I can say, 'Fuck you and your band, and fuck the guy that came before Joe Biden,' [who] I don't need to speak about anymore," stated Bach to Ultimate Classic Rock while not directly mentioning Lewis or former President Trump.



He then went on to defend the current president stating, "Joe Biden is an old man who has nothing but good intentions for the country, and there's nothing to not like about him. He's trying his hardest to get us back to normal, instead of the shit show that took away rock 'n' roll from us in 2020, and our kids' school, and everything that we know about America. Joe Biden has made America great again, and he's constantly under attack for no reason."

While Bach was vocal about his desire to see new leadership in the U.S. during the last election, he told UCR that he was not necessarily interested in fanning the political flames. "As soon as Joe Biden was elected president, I never mentioned the other guy ever again," he explained. "If you look at my Twitter, I flicked the switch. I go, 'I'm fucking done with that shit.' Because that's not who I am. I'm not out to be having political headlines with my face next to them all the time. But when you hit [science deniers] with hardcore shit like 'two plus two equals four,' those are fighting words to some people. If you hit 'em with shit like math, look out — you're crossing a line, man."

Rather, Bach would prefer to use his social media to promote the need to get vaccinated as the country continues to battle COVID-19 and the Delta variant. "I was stuck in my house [this summer after contracting COVID], and I had to get the fuck out of my house, I was like, 'What can I do to get out of my house?' I was like, 'Holy shit, I have a half a million people that follow me here on Twitter, and that's quite a big amount of people,'" says the singer.

Bach has since been able to return to the road, but remains vigilant in adhering to COVID safety protocols. "I actually do listen to what doctors say," he explains. "I check the news every morning, and lately, the news has been that the COVID cases seem to be going down, and we might actually be turning a corner in the fight to get back to normal. And if it keeps going like that, we're on tour at a really good time."

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on October 15, 2021, 11:46:23 am
Word
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on October 15, 2021, 01:21:06 pm
that is the first thing i have ever respected sebastian bach for.  ever.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on October 15, 2021, 02:53:01 pm
since we don't have a coming back out of retirement, etc thread...

It's being reported Simon Gallup say's he's rejoined The Cure

guess he had a heart to heart with his financial adivsor
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on October 15, 2021, 03:15:15 pm
Ladies and gentlemen... (https://twitter.com/snlhostsintro/status/1443672902012833821?s=20)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on October 15, 2021, 03:32:54 pm
That was reported months ago but either way it’s great news

Guessing he had a talk with the boss
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Cock Van Der Palm on October 15, 2021, 04:28:54 pm
Now if they would finally release the album they've been talking about for years (and tour)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on October 16, 2021, 06:06:28 pm
Arena-rocking Genesis guitarist Mike Rutherford has been using $200 Squier Bullet Strats onstage


https://www.guitarworld.com/news/mike-rutherford-genesis-squier-bullet-strat
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on October 18, 2021, 09:46:57 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DXMnXebUQAMYh79.jpg:large)

Maybe this has been posted before but it's new to me.

We coulda had Bryan Ferry. We got David Naughton (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQPN3UKQM-U) (YouTube link).

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 19, 2021, 10:38:38 am
no story, just a fun photo of the bassist and guitarist of some unknown bands
(https://scontent-iad3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/246529567_1319450301853610_7120277298775023515_n.png?_nc_cat=100&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=j-iU8Y0ZGMEAX9TZVfc&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-2.xx&oh=d80c25e3f946fd5a15ca8281a02d8904&oe=617488C1)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on October 19, 2021, 02:46:56 pm
there was that "red flag" meme on twitter last week and one of my "red flags" is always "there is no good new music" so I made a dumb tweet and a rebuttal playlist called "Swagger: Reloaded" because all these new bands rock hard

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/18VPkm2853pO9eAFFXJALq?si=14bdcc67ef4b496e

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: StoneTheCrow on October 19, 2021, 05:24:04 pm
Some good stuff there. But I wouldn’t say they rock hard.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on October 19, 2021, 09:23:42 pm
I am prone to exaggeration here  :D

As I twote “There are no new bands that Rock Out”
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on October 20, 2021, 01:35:24 pm
As I twote

douglas adams would be proud.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on October 20, 2021, 01:57:51 pm
As I twote

douglas adams would be proud.

ahem - Dionne Warwick would be proud... get with the hot twotters on twitter
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on October 20, 2021, 02:18:01 pm
Years ago, Stephen Colbert tried to get "twought" (twaht) accepted as the past perfect.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on October 20, 2021, 02:56:24 pm
i brought up Adams because "twote" reminded me of this passage from Restaurant at the End of the Universe (http://pages.cs.wisc.edu/~param/quotes/guide.html) about the complications that time travel introduces to verb tenses.  i remember tears streaming down my face from laughter the first time i read that, and people looking at me as if i was insane. 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 20, 2021, 04:04:53 pm
, and people looking at me as if i was insane.
you get that a lot, don'tcha
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on October 20, 2021, 06:05:48 pm
, and people looking at me as if i was insane.
you get that a lot, don'tcha

correct, but the above story was a rare instance when that assessment wasn't actually merited. 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on October 21, 2021, 01:12:01 pm
Paul (drummer) has left Franz Ferdinand….


Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on October 21, 2021, 03:28:32 pm
Paul (drummer) has left Franz Ferdinand….

being replaced by Audrey Tait, a drummer and producer from the Glasgow scene...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 21, 2021, 05:03:29 pm
Paul (drummer) has left Franz Ferdinand….

being replaced by Audrey Tait, a drummer and producer from the Glasgow scene...
do drummers really matter?  ...kidding...kind of

on that note...just watched  Count me in
great doc on rock drummers free on Prime
with massive nods to the greats like Bonham and Moon
was great to hear from the crew in the back like Nico from Madien and Perkins from Janes
surprisingly Neil Peart got narry a mention
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on October 22, 2021, 10:46:45 am
Groove Armada done

https://www.pollstar.com/article/25-years-of-touring-groove-armada-announce-final-live-dates-149042
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 22, 2021, 05:46:02 pm
(https://scontent-iad3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/245927094_10159384655878818_1217110214047091530_n.jpg?_nc_cat=103&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=YADmtX5f6kUAX_yX73O&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-2.xx&oh=0f66dff93566ed86113b70988d6dc7b3&oe=61778420)

Oct 2nd 1980, U2 released their debut studio album “Boy”

The “boy” on the cover (Peter Rowen) is now 47 years old and a celebrated photographer in Ireland.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on November 02, 2021, 11:36:08 am
new Franz Ferdinand single hitting YouTube later today...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on November 02, 2021, 04:33:02 pm
(https://i.ibb.co/0yY4SMq/Paaaat.png) (https://twitter.com/Tim_Burgess/status/1314543545865375745?s=20)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 02, 2021, 04:44:17 pm
I would have thought Pat would have slam dunked that ?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 02, 2021, 07:49:06 pm

@DrPopCultureBG
In September 1963, George Harrison was the 1st Beatle to travel to the USA. He was visiting his sister Louise & her family in Benton, Illinois.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FDNkGHnUUAQ1BDg?format=png&name=small)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on November 03, 2021, 12:01:37 pm
Bob Dylan refreshed his set list first show back


I feel bad for anyone expecting “hits”


https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/bob-dylan/2021/riverside-theater-milwaukee-wi-638a920b.html

I still need to get into the new record more but it’s proved tough slogging so far….the new album is almost amelodic!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on November 03, 2021, 12:11:11 pm
https://www.instagram.com/p/CVtXWmzP5QU/?utm_medium=copy_link
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on November 03, 2021, 01:05:03 pm
Strong Songs covers Stop Making Sense
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on November 03, 2021, 01:42:14 pm
Crazy

https://www.stereogum.com/2105993/pavement-harness-your-hopes-spotify/columns/sounding-board/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 03, 2021, 01:49:27 pm
Crazy

https://www.stereogum.com/2105993/pavement-harness-your-hopes-spotify/columns/sounding-board/
for sure...this made me LOL
 holds the title of “data alchemist”

so does this mean that "Harness Your Hopes” will be the show closer?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on November 03, 2021, 01:54:12 pm
Bob Dylan refreshed his set list first show back


I feel bad for anyone expecting “hits”


https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/bob-dylan/2021/riverside-theater-milwaukee-wi-638a920b.html

I still need to get into the new record more but it’s proved tough slogging so far….the new album is almost amelodic!

https://archive.org/details/rarw-live
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on November 04, 2021, 10:21:07 am
Don't Bring Me Down, Bruce, err...Grooss (https://www.quora.com/In-the-ELO-song-Dont-bring-me-down-why-do-they-say-Groos-at-the-end-of-each-line-in-the-chorus)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Cock Van Der Palm on November 04, 2021, 11:58:06 am
That is actually pretty interesting.

Don't Bring Me Down, Bruce, err...Grooss (https://www.quora.com/In-the-ELO-song-Dont-bring-me-down-why-do-they-say-Groos-at-the-end-of-each-line-in-the-chorus)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Bagley on November 05, 2021, 03:54:50 pm
Bob Dylan refreshed his set list first show back

Odd, Charlie Sexton's not in the lineup this tour
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on November 05, 2021, 04:10:47 pm
Bob Dylan refreshed his set list first show back

Odd, Charlie Sexton's not in the lineup this tour

He is with Elvis Costello


It is odd but maybe Sexton got bored

I wouldn’t want to be the new guitarist in Dylan’s band
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on November 16, 2021, 11:41:18 am
Girl Band is now known as Gilla Band

also apologizes for choosing a 'misgendered name' in the first place
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on November 16, 2021, 11:50:48 am
Girl Band is now known as Gilla Band

also apologizes for choosing a 'misgendered name' in the first place

LOL
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: vansmack on November 16, 2021, 04:23:22 pm
Girl Band is now known as Gilla Band

also apologizes for choosing a 'misgendered name' in the first place

Just as long as the Gir-illa Biscuits and C*nt Sparrer don't change their name too... 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on November 21, 2021, 10:26:21 am
Just watched the Hulu doc on the Janet Jackson super bowl incident which is really well done… but wow what little has changed with regards to conservative outrage since then.. and it was interesting to see all the coverage from the time which I hadn’t seen because it was a non story for me… Justin doesn’t come off very well at all from that time period

And as a side note Kid Rock was also in that show and upset people for wearing the American flag, which of course is now celebrated but this fan base… dude could have been canceled at the time
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on November 21, 2021, 10:30:41 am
America is a prude.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on November 21, 2021, 05:50:53 pm
Not sure the Facebook link will work, so I'll copy and paste this story from the Wilco Facebook fan group.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/390889574423674/?hoisted_section_header_type=recently_seen&multi_permalinks=2026914127487869


’ve been a Wilco fan since the 90’s and I just joined this group to share an awesome story with you all.  My dad bought this Kapa Minstrel new in 1966 when he was 15.  About 25 years later, not having been played in decades, I convinced him to sell it at a yard sale (I was a young teenaged idiot, getting 10% of profits for helping!). So foolish. I almost immediately regretted it - much more so after I began playing guitar myself, and my dad’s death in 2008.
I searched for this guitar for decades. Kapas were never popular or collector’s items, and six-string Minstrels are basically impossible to find. They just don’t exist. Over the years I had asked around on Connecticut musician sites, searched the world on Craigslist and eBay, and just about given up. 
Earlier this week I happened across this picture online, which linked to a 2016 sale on Reverb. There it was - a scuffed-up, candy apple-red ‘66 Kapa Minstrel. I contacted the seller and it turns out he is located right here in Connecticut, and bought the guitar here in the state. I can’t say for sure this is my dad’s guitar, but they are so rare that I have a hard time believing two identical ones exist right here in CT, bought and sold within a few miles of each other.  My mom, sisters, and I are pretty certain this is the Minstrel that my dad played in his high school band in the late 60’s, the guitar I screwed around on for hours on end as a kid.
The Reverb seller kindly connected me to the buyer, and within literally minutes I heard back from him. Yes, they still have the Minstrel, and yes, they were willing to sell the guitar back to me. When I asked about the quality and condition of the guitar, he explained that it was well cared for and well used by its current owner…. the one and only Jeff Tweedy.
Jeff heard about my story and, despite being an avid Kapa collector, didn’t hesitate to sell it back to me at a very fair price - complete with an impromptu pic of him playing it! We did the transaction and the guitar was on its way to me within a couple hours of me first reaching out to the Reverb seller.
It arrived on Friday. It still sounds amazing and feels just like I remember - the stupid teardrop shape sliding off my lap and all.  I literally can’t believe it. I’m blown away by the kindness and generosity of Jeff, the Loft’s manager Mark who connected with me, and the original Reverb seller who put us in touch.
I keep getting emotional holding this guitar and remembering the days of me sitting in my bedroom as a young kid trying to learn chords on it, cranked through a tiny little ‘60’s solid state amp, my dad poking his head in the door to remind me that it was almost time for church. It feels like I have recovered and reconnected with a special part of my dad, and I am overwhelmed with gratitude!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Cock Van Der Palm on November 21, 2021, 08:33:45 pm
That's a great story Space. I'm so glad you were able to find your dad's guitar.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on November 24, 2021, 11:54:23 am
The story of The Wrens and their never to be released album  might not make for a captivating “Behind The Music” episode, but wow their history is seriously complicated

https://twitter.com/guardianculture/status/1463468822216646670?s=21
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on December 01, 2021, 02:26:15 pm
Qobuz aka the man cave audio streaming site announced their top stream tracks, etc for the year. a site said it showed Qobuz listeners had "diverse" tastes if classic rock, with  a smattering of classical and jazz mixed is diverse...

QOBUZ TOP TRACKS OF 2021
Max Richter – ‘Richter: Exiles’
London Grammar – ‘Californian Soil’
Eagles – ‘Hotel California’
Fleetwood Mac – ‘Dreams’
Phil Collins – ‘In the Air Tonight’
Daft Punk – ‘Get Lucky’
Marvin Gaye – ‘What’s Going On’
Billie Eilish – ‘bad guy’
The Doors – ‘Riders on the Storm’
Melody Gardot – ‘If You Love Me’
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on December 01, 2021, 08:06:41 pm
Nick Cave …who else interacts like this with fans?

https://www.theredhandfiles.com/i-just-cant-forgive-myself/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 01, 2021, 10:22:01 pm
I don't read them that often, but the red hand files are just incredible
Kinda what his show at the Lincoln was like

this was a great line, gotta imagine he stole it: A person with no regrets is simply leading an unexamined life.



--edit...looks like this might be the source “An unexamined life is not worth living.” – Socrates.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on December 02, 2021, 11:39:39 am
There are Emo Dance Parties, Gimme Gimme Disco: A Dance Party Inspired by ABBA, 90s Indie, Britpop,80s,  etc dance parties.

i've wondered why there aren't just a decade spanning Rock Dance party, here's a mix I put together awhile back... so do a shot of jager and fill the floor.. YOWSA!

Swagger - "Rock of Ages"
The Trailer

Primal Scream - "Rocks"
Grand Funk Railroad - "Some Kinda of Wonderful"
Kiss - "Detroit Rock City"
The Dead Boys - "Sonic Reducer"
Burning Brides - "Glass Slipper"
The Go - "But You Don't Know"
The Sights - "That Ain't Right Little Girl"
Easybeats - "Sorry"
The Romantics - "She's Got Everything"
Poison - "Talk Dirty To Me"
Social Distortion - "When She Begins"
The Rationals - "I Need You"
The James Gang -"Funk #49"
Foghat - "Slow Ride"
Guns and Roses - "Mr Brownstone"
Foo Fighters - "My Hero"
Thin Lizzy - "Boys Are Back In Town"
INXS - "Suicide Blonde"
Dandy Warhols - "Boys Better"
T. Rex - "20th Century Boy"
Lenny Kravitz - "Are You Gonna Go My Way"
Aeroesmith - "Sweet Emotion"
Night Ranger - "Sister Christian"

Opening Soon
Rated R for ROCK

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4QZZTXqb3CKz48nAScob55?si=82f012b128ec426c
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on December 02, 2021, 11:48:00 am
part of what got me pondering what i would spin at a rock dance party came about while re-watching the brilliant Reservation Dog series which heavily features the Redbone classic 'Come And Get Your Love" in an episode.  it dawned on me this track could easily fit in with the 70s psychedelic inspired output of The Temptations, so i was adding to what would work along side these.  so War, Rare Earth, Meters, Sly, etc would all work... my mind works in bizarre ways most of the time..
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 02, 2021, 03:33:00 pm
Wreck of the Old 97
Question:  In what state did events happen that resulted in the writing of the first country song to sell more than 1 million copies?  Answer: Virginia.
A 1903 train accident in Danville, VA was the inspiration for the song “Wreck of the Old 97” whose 1924 recording by Vernon Dalhart sold more than 1 million copies.  The ballad, which tells the tragic tale of Southern Railway mail train 97, became a staple of the country music genre, and is one of the most famous railroad songs of all time.
This is the story of the 1903 train accident.
Southern Railway had a lucrative contract with the US Government to move mail from DC to New Orleans, but the company was fined heavily for every hour it arrived past deadline at each stop.  On September 27, 1903, mail train 97 was late leaving Monroe, VA en route for Spencer, NC.   Because the train was late leaving Monroe, the train’s conductor, Steve Broady, had to hurry to reach Spencer on schedule.  When approaching Danville, the train famously descended a steep grade leading to the 45-foot-tall Stillhouse Trestle Bridge.  The train descended the grade so fast that Broady wasn’t able to slow it down enough before reaching the curve before the bridge.  The train careened off of the bridge and fell into the ravine below, killing eleven and injuring seven more.   The crash was devastating, not only for the families involved, but for the city.  The only good news were the canaries onboard, housed in a large case, who managed to escape and fly to safety.  The accident was immortalized in the song "Wreck of the Old 97."
The N. C. Transportation Museum has a well-put-together video about the accident and the song. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ggBWk-Q_NY
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on December 03, 2021, 10:43:11 am
Honest Question...

Has anyone listened to the Olivio Rodrigo album?  I gave it one listen to see what all the fuss was about and was like MEH, back to marginal UK bands for me...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on December 03, 2021, 10:52:01 am
Nope
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 03, 2021, 11:14:59 am
Honest Question...

Has anyone listened to the Olivio Rodrigo album?  I gave it one listen to see what all the fuss was about and was like MEH, back to marginal UK bands for me...
sadly about 100 times due to having a 12 year old girl in the house
it's not horrible and better than some of the other bubblegum stuff out there...like her way more than anything in Miley's catalog

Kinda hoping she DOESN'T tour as I'll be required to spend an absurd amount on tix/merch
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on December 03, 2021, 12:00:54 pm
Honest Question...

Has anyone listened to the Olivio Rodrigo album?  I gave it one listen to see what all the fuss was about and was like MEH, back to marginal UK bands for me...
Yes, of course I have. You can just address me by name instead of posting these questions under the guise of "has anyone".

She's not as catchy as Taylor or Ariana or Katy, but a cut above Dua Lipa, Miley, etc. Definitely some bangers.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 03, 2021, 02:24:53 pm
her SNL performance was great IMO
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: vansmack on December 03, 2021, 03:02:27 pm
Yes, of course I have. You can just address me by name instead of posting these questions under the guise of "has anyone".

She's not as catchy as Taylor or Ariana or Katy, but a cut above Dua Lipa, Miley, etc. Definitely some bangers.

Thank you for responding on my behalf.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: evilizac on December 08, 2021, 12:52:16 pm
The first two tracks were pretty catchy, but after that I felt like she needs a couple more topics to write about.
I had to remind myself that she's like 17, so there's that.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on December 08, 2021, 04:31:58 pm
Well if the Rave-Up can reunite after a zillion years, I guess Josie Cotton can re-surface as well.  A couple new records from her out in the last couple of years.

fun new vid here

https://youtu.be/Xjuhmbg5Su0
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on December 08, 2021, 05:00:52 pm
Bringing it here
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on December 09, 2021, 02:07:54 pm
i have no real way to verify this a true quote, as this it is the internet... but in light of Robbie's passing, i was reminded of this recently seen

"A band is essentially a drummer and a bassist plus assorted novelty acts" - Pink Floyd's Nick Mason.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 09, 2021, 06:51:35 pm
(https://scontent-iad3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/p180x540/265474916_10224345095033866_261451424268510186_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=825194&_nc_ohc=D61xZn2z_rcAX9aFKhx&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-2.xx&oh=ce3cce0a8a3d3b0398da4bff622876a6&oe=61B7643E)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on December 09, 2021, 10:07:38 pm
Did not expect to hear Nina Hagen name dropped on Colbert.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on December 16, 2021, 09:21:16 am
Not too shabby Bruuuuce


https://dnyuz.com/2021/12/15/bruce-springsteen-sells-music-catalog-in-massive-deal/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 16, 2021, 12:31:33 pm
Sings, sings, everywhere a sign
(https://scontent-iad3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/265244781_10160004250468678_5337033894429354148_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&_nc_rgb565=1&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=v6UQDx6zqZMAX_6f_wP&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-2.xx&oh=00_AT-azR0XuhJ3_zH1nLGRggfGpzn0myDnJRs_1gZM0KarMA&oe=61BFF84D)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 16, 2021, 12:55:05 pm
this is great
(https://scontent-iad3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/267462836_3955906881179686_2724441681761524370_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&_nc_rgb565=1&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=_01AXgmzKGAAX9_yolN&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-2.xx&oh=00_AT9u-ythkRrJVzoHwziLSVcGRL8_A0iaS-7kRtecNxcWZQ&oe=61BFD641)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on December 16, 2021, 01:48:40 pm
(https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/265904498_1223107411527110_2820049913427302184_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&_nc_rgb565=1&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_eui2=AeEPxPKBdz15Z4AOZwh-EjdsO4-IhyFwfeQ7j4iHIXB95JVGJJHlLcncRvWFS0zrym8&_nc_ohc=-66qpgl7ty0AX8wjUlR&_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.xx&oh=00_AT9uZfojaeH7jfrr9SBFpXskvEs_6UEAio4CdXEY-ym_ew&oe=61C005B3)
 
(bonus points for spotting the error)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 16, 2021, 02:07:01 pm
no door handles?  (I know it's like those are sharps or something...)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on December 16, 2021, 03:25:28 pm
Without the first note, you can't tell if it's B minor or D major.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on December 16, 2021, 03:28:41 pm
Believe it or not, the Who's drummer thing was done as a school talent show skit on "Eight Is Enough". The little kid didn't want to do "Who's on first" with the dad, so....
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on December 16, 2021, 03:29:56 pm
I don't know if it is more surprising that that happened, or more surprising that you know that.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on December 16, 2021, 03:32:27 pm
I don't know if it is more surprising that that happened, or more surprising that you know that.

TV show references to actual bands were very rare back then, so it stood out. They may not have even referenced Moon but I remember Yes and The Guess Who for sure.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: vansmack on December 16, 2021, 03:35:07 pm
Lord of the Rings is the #1 Trilly (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1dU1HZ_73M)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on December 16, 2021, 04:47:39 pm
Without the first note, you can't tell if it's B minor or D major.

Dmaj is the relative major of Bmin, same-same, so that's not it... (also, a piece in Bmin could start with a D, or any note for that matter, so knowing the first note wouldn't clarify this anyways)


(I know it's like those are sharps or something...)

correct!  Bmin/Dmaj has two sharps, F# and C# - but in the image above, the second sharp is on B not C. 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on December 19, 2021, 01:17:47 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FG5lHOPVEAMO1r6?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 21, 2021, 05:35:05 pm
Love this cause I hate that song
(https://scontent-iad3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/269806436_10159611303923620_3043659774132670017_n.jpg?_nc_cat=101&_nc_rgb565=1&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=CQZg-ldRcUcAX_vjxK2&tn=s5ytC9q7z7ww24bU&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-2.xx&oh=00_AT-a_-YxaN83AdJgOWcj5I7t251QBzgAvmYbPAFEBFHcRQ&oe=61C6FBC2)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on December 23, 2021, 03:38:36 pm
(https://i.ibb.co/r3F8M9Q/Screen-Shot-2021-12-23-at-2-36-27-PM.png) (https://twitter.com/1followernodad/status/1474078117782298634)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 29, 2021, 09:04:38 am
The Best Band From Every State (https://edition.thrillist.com/s/best-band-every-state-7ee9b72354664fc0)

an interesting read....DC got no mention and I think GWAR should have won for VA
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on December 29, 2021, 11:50:57 am
Grateful Dead >>> Beach Boys.

Come at me.

Also, The Shaggs FTW!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on December 29, 2021, 12:29:45 pm
Grateful Dead >>> Beach Boys.

Come at me.

Also, The Shaggs FTW!

Can confirm.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Cock Van Der Palm on December 29, 2021, 01:25:13 pm
takes too long to load.  Who was Maryland?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on December 29, 2021, 01:32:38 pm
takes too long to load.  Who was Maryland?

OAR
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 29, 2021, 01:36:16 pm
takes too long to load.  Who was Maryland?
OAR is funny, but actually was Beach House...pretty good write up for MD too

Contemporary Baltimore is a hotbed of musical innovation that's bursting with politically urgent hip-hop, punk, and dance music, and a case could be made for Wye Oak, Lower Dens, or Future Islands and some of the other long-running indie bands that have broken into the mainstream -- early R&B innovators and doo-wop pioneers The Orioles, named after the state bird, also deserve a listen. It's Victoria Legrand and Alex Scally's dream-pop project, however, that earn a nod for their prolific output and ability to develop their distinctive sound without betraying their style.

Releasing Depression Cherry and Thank Your Lucky Stars within two months of each other in 2015 was an excellent, respectable troll move that sandwiched a bizarre "fake song hoax," all of which sent the music press into a typing frenzy. Fun!
 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Bagley on December 29, 2021, 01:47:19 pm
Many accolades bestowed upon Baltimore's Turnstile for their 2021 release- i. e. #1 album -Brooklyn Vegan
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on December 29, 2021, 02:31:09 pm
I frickin hate The Beach Boys
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on December 29, 2021, 02:59:37 pm
Is it just me or does Baltimore music scene put a hurting on DC?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on December 29, 2021, 03:56:42 pm
Is it just me or does Baltimore music scene put a hurting on DC?

Does DC have a music scene? Paging az and killsally
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on December 29, 2021, 04:14:09 pm
Is it just me or does Baltimore music scene put a hurting on DC?

Does DC have a music scene? Paging az and killsally

Go-Go, Discord, Teenbeat, etc, etc etc
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on December 29, 2021, 04:27:35 pm
Is it just me or does Baltimore music scene put a hurting on DC?

Does DC have a music scene? Paging az and killsally

Go-Go, Discord, Teenbeat, etc, etc etc

Oh you mean in the 80s/90s?


I mean today
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on December 29, 2021, 06:49:51 pm
Kinda hard to have a scene in the middle of a pandemic  ;D

But there are some DC area based bands I’m aware of making waves to ripples

Bartees Strange, Ex Hex, Bad Moves,  Des Demonas, Jay Diggs, Too Free

Snail Mail came up through the local scene, but is based in Brooklyn now

I believe there was number of female fronted bands along the lines of Priests, that scene may have faded out though… see Sister Polygon records


Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Cock Van Der Palm on December 29, 2021, 06:53:34 pm
Snail Mail ain't DC.  She is Howard County-Mount Hebron area, so I'd consider that more Baltimore than DC.  Sorry, I'm a little testy since DC had to glom in on our airport and tried to shove the Football Team down our throats when the Colts left, and also stole our Bullets. FDC.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on December 29, 2021, 07:15:57 pm
Airport being called BWI is ridiculous

It’s practically in Baltimore!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 29, 2021, 08:16:05 pm
I frickin hate The Beach Boys
there are a few decent tunes, but I 100% agree and have never got the adoration...even putting them on the same level as the beatles

Is it just me or does Baltimore music scene put a hurting on DC?
can confirm
Koz named a few...but even that list is a stretch (ex hex for sure...priests were about to break, but that never happened)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on December 29, 2021, 08:19:16 pm
Hmm. My neighbor hosts a weekly rehearsal of his Beach Boys cover band (or Journey if that's what you prefer). I guess I'll cancel the surprise forum meetup at his house...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 29, 2021, 08:20:10 pm
Hmm. My neighbor hosts a weekly rehearsal of his Beach Boys cover band (or Journey if that's what you prefer). I guess I'll cancel the surprise forum meetup at his house...
will astrolab be on tap? then I might reconsider
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on December 29, 2021, 08:23:33 pm
Astrolab makes the singalong portion a whole lot more enjoyable!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on December 29, 2021, 08:27:07 pm
I am pretty desperate for some action….

I have reached a state of perfect boredom

When visiting the hospital is the social highlight something is wrong
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on December 29, 2021, 08:31:11 pm
Are The Beach Boys even a real band?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on December 29, 2021, 08:35:48 pm
Didn’t the same musicians play on The Beach Boys and Monkees?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on December 30, 2021, 05:00:22 am
have never got the adoration...even putting them on the same level as the beatles

definitely a "you had to be there at the time" kind of thing.  didn't age well.  at all.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on December 30, 2021, 10:39:29 am
reposting from my twitter, because that's how i roll..

Anyone remember the DC band Power Lloyd? I was trying to remember another David vs Goliath incident involving album cover art. I figured out it involved STPs No. 4 album, but was drawing a blank on the other band involved

But low and behold it’s in the Wikipedia article about the album and the similar art was of course Power Lloyd’s Election Day released a year earlier.  Links from the article to stories about the controversy remind of the era of the WCP forum

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No._4_(album)

https://washingtoncitypaper.com/article/270881/star-making-machinery/

and to save hatch from having to track down the artwork

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2c/Stone_Temple_Pilots_N%C2%BA_4.jpg)

(https://img.discogs.com/1Lim44ZCbA4qQnuIqp9H5MsfiLE=/fit-in/600x519/filters:strip_icc():format(webp):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-6963602-1430521141-6315.jpeg.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 30, 2021, 10:52:02 am
and to save hatch from having to track down the artwork
much appreciated ;)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: vansmack on December 30, 2021, 10:40:22 pm
The thought of a pioneering hip-hop artist in the Rock Hall of Fame so upsets him that, in the interview published on KNAC.com, Ted Nugent says it’s tantamount to urinating on the graves of rock’s original pioneers. “What a middle finger to the ‘real’ heroes of rock ‘n’ roll and rhythm and blues to put in those other people,” he says. “Grandmaster Flash? Really? Why don’t we go down to Chuck Berry’s grave and piss on it?”

Insisting it’s nothing personal, Nugent says,”I’m not angry that I’m not in there because I’m having so much fun that it’s stupid.” But, he asks, “Why isn’t a band like Triumph in there, but  Grandmaster Flash is? That’s just dishonest! Why are Patti Smith, ABBA and Madonna in the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame, but not Styx?  Are you kidding me?! You can only explain that is that the people who made those decisions are just plain rotten people! The Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame should genuflect to Chuck Berry, Bo Diddley, Howlin’ Wolf, Muddy Waters (and) the Funk Brothers… How dare you put Grandmaster Flash, ABBA and Madonna in that?”
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on December 30, 2021, 11:55:12 pm
So much stupidity


I think all the early rappers deserve to be in

Kool Herc
Sugarhill Gang
Kurtis Blow
Grandmaster Flash
Afrika Bambaata
Etc

Rock and roll isn’t a type of music….it’s just youth culture continually reinventing itself in music….it’s an attitude

Saying this doesn’t disrespect Chuck Berry at all…it actually makes him even more important by linking him to everything that has happened and is still happening; without realizing it the Nuge is limiting Chuck
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 01, 2022, 10:57:58 am
The ACDC recommends 5 days of saluting those about to rock
-Jason narducy
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 03, 2022, 09:36:03 am
Just read all four of these...not a single mention of big star?!
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t45.5328-4/p720x720/269668285_4975594765793639_7533258279725139815_n.jpg?_nc_cat=111&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=c48759&_nc_ohc=pwr6Nz-YIv4AX_veI-Q&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=00_AT-v45CfXlQgo1MgaJGs4AL7vCvXz0bYftXkzgsJ2FMeTw&oe=61D72ACA)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: evilizac on January 03, 2022, 10:16:09 am
I feel like that's borderline Dad Joke Thread content.
Hipster Dad Jokes.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on January 03, 2022, 10:31:20 am
I feel like that's borderline Dad Joke Thread content.
Hipster Dad Jokes.

Keanu Reeves would love it.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: shemptiness on January 03, 2022, 06:56:40 pm
David Bowie’s estate sells his ‘entire’ songwriting catalogue to Warner Music (https://www.washingtonpost.com/arts-entertainment/2022/01/03/david-bowie-catalog-warner-music/)

“These are not only extraordinary songs, but milestones that have changed the course of modern music forever,” Guy Moot, co-chair and chief executive of Warner Chappell, said in a news release. “Bowie’s vision and creative genius drove him to push the envelope, lyrically and musically — writing songs that challenged convention, changed the conversation, and have become part of the canon of global culture.”
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on January 04, 2022, 03:18:26 am
David Bowie’s estate sells his ‘entire’ songwriting catalogue to Warner Music (https://www.washingtonpost.com/arts-entertainment/2022/01/03/david-bowie-catalog-warner-music/)

“These are not only extraordinary songs, but milestones that have changed the course of modern music forever,” Guy Moot, co-chair and chief executive of Warner Chappell, said in a news release. “Bowie’s vision and creative genius drove him to push the envelope, lyrically and musically — writing songs that challenged convention, changed the conversation, and have become part of the canon of global culture.”

An Expert Explains Why All Your Classic Rock Heroes Are Selling Their Catalogs (https://www.insidehook.com/article/music/music-publishing-deals)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on January 04, 2022, 05:58:46 am
Bowie’s case is interesting cause if memory serves he securitized his songs way back in the 1990s via “Bowie bonds”….

Of course the difference with his peers is that in this case it’s his estate selling his songs but one has to think Bowie’s spirit is up there somewhere yelling “Geez Iman what took you so long!!!!”
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on January 05, 2022, 08:49:04 am
Wet Let hype machine if full motion.. NPR commentator enthusiastically carrying on about them this morning on the radio

so Anthem for them mid 2023
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on January 05, 2022, 09:20:03 am
Pffft more like 2022!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on January 05, 2022, 09:31:12 am
Pffft more like 2022!

Summer variant will mess that up
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 05, 2022, 03:41:56 pm
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/271175364_5288345664526178_7045282817128776220_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&_nc_rgb565=1&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=2c4854&_nc_ohc=lsD2T39yNbEAX8LCLQD&tn=s5ytC9q7z7ww24bU&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=00_AT-n_PV0inhhc1N5_69Lc_wYEolAARagb6gqfRxCIxHAtQ&oe=61DB02E9)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on January 05, 2022, 11:59:13 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FIXa3xRVkAAoj7M?format=jpg&name=large) (https://twitter.com/davidhorvitz/status/1478828708349689860?s=20)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on January 06, 2022, 06:10:16 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FIXa3xRVkAAoj7M?format=jpg&name=large) (https://twitter.com/davidhorvitz/status/1478828708349689860?s=20)

Who's the walrus now, Paul?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on January 06, 2022, 09:39:05 am
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/271175364_5288345664526178_7045282817128776220_n.jpg?_nc_cat=102&_nc_rgb565=1&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=2c4854&_nc_ohc=lsD2T39yNbEAX8LCLQD&tn=s5ytC9q7z7ww24bU&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=00_AT-n_PV0inhhc1N5_69Lc_wYEolAARagb6gqfRxCIxHAtQ&oe=61DB02E9)
Pizza Underground reunion, here we come.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 06, 2022, 09:56:13 am
75 Post-Punk and Hardcore Concerts from the 1980s Have Been Digitized & Put Online: Fugazi, GWAR, Lemonheads, Dain Bramage (with Dave Grohl) & More (https://www.openculture.com/2022/01/75-post-punk-and-hardcore-concerts-from-the-1980s-have-digitized-put-online.html?)
looks interesting

Didn't realize how many punk shows went on at the WUST.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: challenged on January 06, 2022, 11:39:26 am
75 Post-Punk and Hardcore Concerts from the 1980s Have Been Digitized & Put Online: Fugazi, GWAR, Lemonheads, Dain Bramage (with Dave Grohl) & More (https://www.openculture.com/2022/01/75-post-punk-and-hardcore-concerts-from-the-1980s-have-digitized-put-online.html?)
looks interesting

Didn't realize how many punk shows went on at the WUST.

I mustve been served the same thing on instagram or somewhere. watched some of marginal man and modest proposals shows from GWU from 1985 last night. I probably was at those shows. very little memory of though.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on January 14, 2022, 04:09:39 pm
WHAT YOUR FAVORITE SAD DAD BAND SAYS ABOUT YOU

https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/what-your-favorite-sad-dad-band-says-about-you?fbclid=IwAR0G4c0QkF4EinISFRpY9QCp3AlmYnIEJ2Ed4pHdu2LJEGFSNPtsoRZFlD0
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 14, 2022, 07:14:52 pm
^man that is soo on point

The Mountain Goats
You have received sensible health care. You drive Toyota cars

can confirm, might also be hutch
I don't think Santa drives a Toyota, but not really sure


Is this sweets
Pixies
You’re fine working in software development. You’ve been there a long time, your friends are there, no one else in the company knows what the fuck you do all the time, but that’s because their brains can’t handle it. You don’t even like IPAs anymore

this might be yada, but could be space
Pavement
Your son’s friends like you and worry about you but they don’t tell your son this. You point out where things used to be when you drive around town, but all the things you point out are somewhat shady and confusing. Was that place a dance club? A friend’s house? Were there parties there or just a drug dealer? You may have misplaced your David Foster Wallace books in the last move, or your spouse quietly donated them. You like walnuts now.

not sure who this one is, but classic
Wilco
 Your son’s friends know not to get you started on amps.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on January 14, 2022, 07:26:56 pm
Mercedes
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 14, 2022, 07:31:33 pm
Mercedes
is it a 1979 sl that runs biodiesel as this seems very off brand
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on January 14, 2022, 07:42:54 pm
Mercedes
is it a 1979 sl that runs biodiesel as this seems very off brand

No, but it is a 2004 beater with 180,000 miles on it.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 14, 2022, 07:44:44 pm
Mercedes
is it a 1979 sl that runs biodiesel as this seems very off brand

No, but it is a 2004 beater with 180,000 miles on it.
there we go...on brand!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on January 17, 2022, 03:29:03 pm
YouTube suggested this Paul Heaton doc and it’s a fun watch… that run of Housemartins and Beautiful South singles/albums are just so great

https://youtu.be/tHFLV9s34Ws
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 17, 2022, 06:05:15 pm
in one of the beasties vids

(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/272016029_10160042309851528_283704113514741496_n.jpg?_nc_cat=111&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=825194&_nc_ohc=b088rxzFtNMAX_Du2CH&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=00_AT9bHBro3pW1v23qnedjoGdfgW4G8MQztYIElIUjIjsAWQ&oe=61EAACD4)

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/beastie-boys/2004/930-club-washington-dc-3bdfac44.html
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on January 17, 2022, 08:54:15 pm
in one of the beasties vids

(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/272016029_10160042309851528_283704113514741496_n.jpg?_nc_cat=111&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=825194&_nc_ohc=b088rxzFtNMAX_Du2CH&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=00_AT9bHBro3pW1v23qnedjoGdfgW4G8MQztYIElIUjIjsAWQ&oe=61EAACD4)

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/beastie-boys/2004/930-club-washington-dc-3bdfac44.html

Was that a "surprise at the club" type thing? Can't believe I wasn't there or even recall it happening...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: challenged on January 17, 2022, 09:12:35 pm
in one of the beasties vids

(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/272016029_10160042309851528_283704113514741496_n.jpg?_nc_cat=111&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=825194&_nc_ohc=b088rxzFtNMAX_Du2CH&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=00_AT9bHBro3pW1v23qnedjoGdfgW4G8MQztYIElIUjIjsAWQ&oe=61EAACD4)

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/beastie-boys/2004/930-club-washington-dc-3bdfac44.html

Was that a "surprise at the club" type thing? Can't believe I wasn't there or even recall it happening...

Was a fun but logistically challenging night. I think it was a radio station related promotion. I have the poster, some Beastie Boys dice, and a T shirt from that night.
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Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on January 17, 2022, 10:36:44 pm
Isn’t this the one where they were massively delayed (weather possibly?) and they started handing out pizza to the crowd?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: challenged on January 17, 2022, 11:15:18 pm
Isn’t this the one where they were massively delayed (weather possibly?) and they started handing out pizza to the crowd?

yes, thunderstorms in NYC screwed up their travel. pizza.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on January 18, 2022, 12:06:32 am
Isn’t this the one where they were massively delayed (weather possibly?) and they started handing out pizza to the crowd?

yes, thunderstorms in NYC screwed up their travel. pizza.

Ohh... heard about that but thought it was tied to Tibetan freedom festival
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: lily1 on January 18, 2022, 10:29:52 am
I saw David Byrne's American Utopia in NYC this weekend. I fucking loved it. I missed his show at Anthem in 2018 and prior to Covid getting tickets to it was quite a feat, and generally an expensive one. I finally won the ticket lottery they have (lost count how many times I entered between 2019 and now). I would have loved it if I paid $150. It was nice to feel jubilant.

If you feel comfortable travelling, I highly recommend. As an alternative, HBO offers a screening of the Spike Lee directed production (filmed pre Covid).  Move the furniture as you'll be dancing in your living room.

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on January 18, 2022, 11:11:41 am
I saw David Byrne's American Utopia in NYC this weekend. I fucking loved it. I missed his show at Anthem in 2018 and prior to Covid getting tickets to it was quite a feat, and generally an expensive one. I finally won the ticket lottery they have (lost count how many times I entered between 2019 and now). I would have loved it if I paid $150. It was nice to feel jubilant.

If you feel comfortable travelling, I highly recommend. As an alternative, HBO offers a screening of the Spike Lee directed production (filmed pre Covid).  Move the furniture as you'll be dancing in your living room.
The show at The Anthem was one of the best concerts I ever went to. I'd love to go see it again.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on January 18, 2022, 11:52:01 am
Adam Schlesinger, A Music Celebration is now on YouTube

watched this one when they streamed it last year and i cannot lie... when Mike Viola did "They Thing You Do" there were tears...

worth watching


https://youtu.be/8wvF9ZZAN1c
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on January 18, 2022, 12:11:25 pm
Can Confirm.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/i-hate-u2s-name-my-voice-and-most-of-the-songs-says-bono-hgh5rwjjb
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on January 18, 2022, 12:21:20 pm
Can Confirm.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/i-hate-u2s-name-my-voice-and-most-of-the-songs-says-bono-hgh5rwjjb
Co-signed.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 18, 2022, 12:28:46 pm
Can Confirm.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/i-hate-u2s-name-my-voice-and-most-of-the-songs-says-bono-hgh5rwjjb
Co-signed.
The Irish-born singer said in a podcast interview that he finds most of U2’s songs cringeworthy and switches the radio off when they are played because he does not like the sound of his own voice.
I can't believe we're all on the same page
I can't say I find them ALL cringeworthy tho
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on January 18, 2022, 04:15:14 pm
Upon realizing that there is some funky funky flute driving War w/ Eric Burdon's "Spill The Wine", i took it as a sign to shore my Funky Flute playlist.  In the process of finishing this up, I stumble upon a playlist of over 150 funky flute tracks on Soundcloud, so I enhanced mine with additional tracks I was already familiar with, in part because Sp*ti#y auto adds tracks to any playlist under 15

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4XiYZ7fF4DoEjhmfS6tuuM?si=685a295bfcfe4d86
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on January 20, 2022, 10:19:47 am
I saw David Byrne's American Utopia in NYC this weekend. I fucking loved it. I missed his show at Anthem in 2018 and prior to Covid getting tickets to it was quite a feat, and generally an expensive one. I finally won the ticket lottery they have (lost count how many times I entered between 2019 and now). I would have loved it if I paid $150. It was nice to feel jubilant.

If you feel comfortable travelling, I highly recommend. As an alternative, HBO offers a screening of the Spike Lee directed production (filmed pre Covid).  Move the furniture as you'll be dancing in your living room.

Thanks for the heads up on it being on HBO. I had this on my list of things to watch, but didn't realize it was streaming already.

Is there difficulty in getting tickets right now? There seem to be plenty available at face online. Or am I missing something.

I'd love to see it live, and we discussed it for a hot minute. Unless my wife insists on going to NYC, I don't think i have the energy or desire to do the drive in the dead of winter.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: challenged on January 20, 2022, 10:22:48 am
I saw David Byrne's American Utopia in NYC this weekend. I fucking loved it. I missed his show at Anthem in 2018 and prior to Covid getting tickets to it was quite a feat, and generally an expensive one. I finally won the ticket lottery they have (lost count how many times I entered between 2019 and now). I would have loved it if I paid $150. It was nice to feel jubilant.

If you feel comfortable travelling, I highly recommend. As an alternative, HBO offers a screening of the Spike Lee directed production (filmed pre Covid).  Move the furniture as you'll be dancing in your living room.

Thanks for the heads up on it being on HBO. I had this on my list of things to watch, but didn't realize it was streaming already.

Is there difficulty in getting tickets right now? There seem to be plenty available at face online. Or am I missing something.

I'd love to see it live, and we discussed it for a hot minute. Unless my wife insists on going to NYC, I don't think i have the energy or desire to do the drive in the dead of winter.

Pretty sure Vas will drive you all.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: lily1 on January 20, 2022, 12:49:45 pm
Thanks for the heads up on it being on HBO. I had this on my list of things to watch, but didn't realize it was streaming already.

Is there difficulty in getting tickets right now? There seem to be plenty available at face online. Or am I missing something.

I'd love to see it live, and we discussed it for a hot minute. Unless my wife insists on going to NYC, I don't think i have the energy or desire to do the drive in the dead of winter.

The second level balcony was completely empty so tickets are readily available for this specific show whereas pre covid, and I think until omicron took over, that was not the case. It was an enthusiastic and appreciative crowd last week; albeit not a sold out one.

Of the 41 theatres within Broadway, I think just 19 are now open, down from a much higher number pre omicron. Shows either closed entirely or went on hiatus until the Spring. Some shows are still selling strongly though like Six and Hamilton but their peak pricing has decreased.  Others are not.

Slave Play wasn't sold out (but heavily sold) when I saw it last week and Girl from the North Country which I'm seeing Saturday has availability.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on January 20, 2022, 03:26:33 pm
David Bowie’s estate sells his ‘entire’ songwriting catalogue to Warner Music (https://www.washingtonpost.com/arts-entertainment/2022/01/03/david-bowie-catalog-warner-music/)

“These are not only extraordinary songs, but milestones that have changed the course of modern music forever,” Guy Moot, co-chair and chief executive of Warner Chappell, said in a news release. “Bowie’s vision and creative genius drove him to push the envelope, lyrically and musically — writing songs that challenged convention, changed the conversation, and have become part of the canon of global culture.”

An Expert Explains Why All Your Classic Rock Heroes Are Selling Their Catalogs (https://www.insidehook.com/article/music/music-publishing-deals)

WaPo: Why artists like Bruce Springsteen, John Legend and Bob Dylan are suddenly selling their catalogues (https://www.washingtonpost.com/arts-entertainment/2022/01/19/music-catalogs-sale/)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on January 20, 2022, 05:07:28 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FJeq1QhXsAMTd2e?format=jpg&name=900x900) (https://twitter.com/yannseznec/status/1483842442524770312)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 20, 2022, 05:22:21 pm
420 calories per bar...something seems phishy
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on January 21, 2022, 09:27:37 am
Malkmus sitting in with Wilco for "cut your hair" in Mexico = A+
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on January 21, 2022, 10:39:35 am
Malkmus sitting in with Wilco for "cut your hair" in Mexico = A+

hutch's favorite Kurt Vile on "Passenger Side" wasn't too bad either.

Soccer Mommy on the other hand, meh.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: challenged on January 21, 2022, 10:48:53 am
Malkmus sitting in with Wilco for "cut your hair" in Mexico = A+

I too, enjoyed this. Only watched a little of KV singing with Wilco, did not enjoy.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Bagley on January 21, 2022, 11:00:58 am
Malkmus sitting in with Wilco for "cut your hair" in Mexico = A+

hutch's favorite Kurt Vile on "Passenger Side" wasn't too bad either.


can confirm

Mavis stuff was nice as well
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on January 21, 2022, 11:15:02 am
If the Phish ever doesn't do their yearly thing in Mexico, I'd love to attend this... This year would've been ideal based on that line up.

Liam Kazar on keys all weekend with the band as well since mikael jorgensen has the vid.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on January 21, 2022, 03:24:09 pm
Malkmus sitting in with Wilco for "cut your hair" in Mexico = A+

hutch's favorite Kurt Vile on "Passenger Side" wasn't too bad either.


can confirm

Mavis stuff was nice as well

and Neil Francis on "Theologians" !
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on January 21, 2022, 03:31:30 pm
Malkmus sitting in with Wilco for "cut your hair" in Mexico = A+

hutch's favorite Kurt Vile on "Passenger Side" wasn't too bad either.


can confirm

Mavis stuff was nice as well

and Neil Francis on "Theologians" !

What I find confusing is there is also a Neil Frances. Playing within nine days of Neil Francis at Union Stage.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on January 21, 2022, 03:33:25 pm
Fascinating stuff
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on January 21, 2022, 03:41:53 pm
Malkmus sitting in with Wilco for "cut your hair" in Mexico = A+

hutch's favorite Kurt Vile on "Passenger Side" wasn't too bad either.


can confirm

Mavis stuff was nice as well

and Neil Francis on "Theologians" !

What I find confusing is there is also a Neil Frances. Playing within nine days of Neil Francis at Union Stage.

I *think* I posted a meme about that, but someone with better search capabilities would have to dig that up.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on January 21, 2022, 03:59:02 pm
VERY memeable!!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 22, 2022, 12:48:16 pm
(https://scontent-iad3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/272158303_5346520655375345_1056414049584300073_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=2c4854&_nc_ohc=ItOrTlLv-igAX-dWGZl&tn=s5ytC9q7z7ww24bU&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-2.xx&oh=00_AT_n4yY5Dc26tkeD8bHHZjT-cVSqBQFYLAUDfXiuG__ImQ&oe=61F098A9)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 24, 2022, 05:08:46 pm
(https://scontent-iad3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/272674047_5443237542359152_6049045049630703378_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=oj4X0lGZ044AX-Gcnuy&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-2.xx&oh=00_AT_F0ClUogp2dNgdnibvgYfOJAfIvPvrL-azsC_RvgTc_A&oe=61F4BD90]https://scontent-iad3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/272674047_5443237542359152_6049045049630703378_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=oj4X0lGZ044AX-Gcnuy&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-2.xx&oh=00_AT_F0ClUogp2dNgdnibvgYfOJAfIvPvrL-azsC_RvgTc_A&oe=61F4BD90)

Personal clapton tangent
Was quite enjoying Cornershop's 'everywhere that wog army roam" (https://youtu.be/WkY470Yd_uY) (killer tune with a very jimmy cliff harder they fall feeling)
really had no idea what Wog meant, but then I heard about some racist rant Clapton had in the 70's where he was calling people Wog's and connected the dots

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/eric-clapton-racist-rant/
Do we have any foreigners in the audience tonight? If so, please put up your hands… So where are you? Well wherever you all are, I think you should all just leave. Not just leave the hall, leave our country … I don’t want you here, in the room or in my country. Listen to me, man! I think we should send them all back. Stop Britain from becoming a black colony. Get the foreigners out. Get the wogs out. Get the coons out. Keep Britain white …

arsehole
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on January 24, 2022, 05:22:27 pm
Welp say a little pray for those who run Damon Albran\Blur’s social media  as he just ticked off the Swifties

https://twitter.com/taylorswift13/status/1485714265675812866?s=21
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 24, 2022, 06:15:15 pm
I posted the thing about clapton and didn't realize he was taking it up a notch on crazy

Eric Clapton claims people vaccinated against COVID-19 are under 'hypnosis'
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on January 24, 2022, 06:29:12 pm
Guy is 76 I think
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 24, 2022, 08:12:26 pm
speaking of musicians in their late 70s
not the biggest Brian W/Beach Boi fan, but this made me smile

While in high school, Brian Wilson of the Beach Boys got an 'F' in his music class for writing the song Surfin; a song which went on to be the Beach Boys' breakout hit.
In 2018, his grade was changed from an 'F' to an 'A.'

(https://scontent-iad3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/272263915_5371624402864970_5520394436185299754_n.png?_nc_cat=106&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=2c4854&_nc_ohc=67rt9F55h5oAX--JTVY&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-2.xx&oh=00_AT_PHXm44oOJoLPbVXrTe5NPbl98CBkEGphLZq-3hlAckQ&oe=61F35A10)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on January 24, 2022, 10:04:40 pm
Damon has apologized to Taylor, hopefully the news reached the JA before any Blur, etc releases were harmed… and the LA Times really went full click bait on that quote

Now on to OMG where are my clutching pearls… the president called someone a stupid son of a bitch… which of course shifts attention from the M&Ms characters being woke… is the Carhartt boycott still a thing?

<rant off>
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on January 25, 2022, 08:40:18 am
Just when the “feud” had generated all the needed amount of clickbait, the president of Chile weighs in

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FJ8EQrcWYAEpPS1?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 25, 2022, 10:01:29 am
Rolling Stone@RollingStone
“They can have [Joe] Rogan or Young,” Neil Young wrote in a letter to his manager and label, “Not both." Young demands Spotify remove his music over "false information about vaccines" https://rol.st/3nXPaML

Neil Young:

“I am doing this because Spotify is spreading fake information about vaccines – potentially causing death to those who believe the disinformation being spread by them,” he writes. “Please act on this immediately today and keep me informed of the time schedule.”

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on January 25, 2022, 11:52:26 am
(https://bestclassicbands.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Maxwell-Blown-Away-Guy.jpg)


I just stumbled across Vas' setlist account. Whoa.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: vansmack on January 26, 2022, 07:42:15 pm
Rolling Stone@RollingStone
“They can have [Joe] Rogan or Young,” Neil Young wrote in a letter to his manager and label, “Not both." Young demands Spotify remove his music over "false information about vaccines" https://rol.st/3nXPaML

Neil Young:

“I am doing this because Spotify is spreading fake information about vaccines – potentially causing death to those who believe the disinformation being spread by them,” he writes. “Please act on this immediately today and keep me informed of the time schedule.”



Spotify removing Neil Young’s catalog at his request.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on January 26, 2022, 08:11:12 pm
Team Neil or get off my planet.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on January 26, 2022, 08:17:51 pm
Team Neil or get off my planet.

Damn straight!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on January 26, 2022, 09:03:04 pm
Goddamn, I’m going to have to switch from Spotify to AppleMusic now, aren’t I?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on January 27, 2022, 08:19:46 am
Or check out Qobuz!!!!

If you listen to primary to albums Qobuz is a fantastic service.  It streams at CD quality or better.  They create decent playlists and don’t have a great random feature, but none of that really matters to be.  Being able to download albums at CD quality to listen to via CarPlay is one it’s best features.  I haven’t dived into the Hi-Rez capabilities as the equipment is a bit pricey
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on January 27, 2022, 08:29:58 am
Also be sure to sign up for the service on their website first… not sure if it’s changed or not but when I first downloaded the app from Apple and signed up through the install process it ended up costing more as Apple added an extra cost since they managed the subscription… they have the obligatory free trial available
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on January 27, 2022, 09:57:41 am
Also, sometimes Qobuz has the best price on 16/44.1 lossless downloads.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Cock Van Der Palm on January 27, 2022, 10:36:02 am
Tidal is free although if you want the higher quality audio, you can pay for those versions.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: lily1 on January 27, 2022, 10:39:43 am
As I've never participated in a presale where I wasn't forced to buy tickets online due to potential sell out...

If there is a presale, can you go to box office and buy the tickets and just give them verbally the password for the presale?

I'd like to think that (band that many of us will be buying tickets to) won't sell out immediately in the presale so I was just going to meander down to the box office after work and purchase and avoid the evil ticketwanker fees.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on January 27, 2022, 10:52:32 am
If there is a presale, can you go to box office and buy the tickets and just give them verbally the password for the presale?
I've never heard of anyone doing this so likely not.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 27, 2022, 11:14:11 am
If there is a presale, can you go to box office and buy the tickets and just give them verbally the password for the presale?

I'd talk to Eddie or Human@930.com  I things changed with the move to ticketbastard
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on January 27, 2022, 11:17:05 am
As I've never participated in a presale where I wasn't forced to buy tickets online due to potential sell out...

If there is a presale, can you go to box office and buy the tickets and just give them verbally the password for the presale?

I'd like to think that (band that many of us will be buying tickets to) won't sell out immediately in the presale so I was just going to meander down to the box office after work and purchase and avoid the evil ticketwanker fees.

You absolutely can't verbally give a password at the box office. If there's that much pent up demand, by the time the grumpy window worker has you repeat the password three times, writes it down, spells it wrong, then again for the second time, your tickets will be long gone.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 27, 2022, 11:59:42 am
Is the box office even open at 10AM when they start?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on January 27, 2022, 12:02:32 pm
Some presales- typically for the highest demand shows - have a certain number of tickets allocated….
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: challenged on January 27, 2022, 12:06:26 pm
As I've never participated in a presale where I wasn't forced to buy tickets online due to potential sell out...

If there is a presale, can you go to box office and buy the tickets and just give them verbally the password for the presale?

I'd like to think that (band that many of us will be buying tickets to) won't sell out immediately in the presale so I was just going to meander down to the box office after work and purchase and avoid the evil ticketwanker fees.

You absolutely can't verbally give a password at the box office. If there's that much pent up demand, by the time the grumpy window worker has you repeat the password three times, writes it down, spells it wrong, then again for the second time, your tickets will be long gone.

I am 72% confident that I have bought paper "artist presale" tickets at the box office in the distant past.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 27, 2022, 12:52:04 pm
As I've never participated in a presale where I wasn't forced to buy tickets online due to potential sell out...

If there is a presale, can you go to box office and buy the tickets and just give them verbally the password for the presale?

I'd like to think that (band that many of us will be buying tickets to) won't sell out immediately in the presale so I was just going to meander down to the box office after work and purchase and avoid the evil ticketwanker fees.

You absolutely can't verbally give a password at the box office. If there's that much pent up demand, by the time the grumpy window worker has you repeat the password three times, writes it down, spells it wrong, then again for the second time, your tickets will be long gone.

I am 72% confident that I have bought paper "artist presale" tickets at the box office in the distant past.
definitely in the past have done that too
but now they are on ticketwanker, does that still apply
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on January 27, 2022, 01:17:41 pm
Didn't take that capitalist Neil too long to hop on Sirius!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: lily1 on January 27, 2022, 01:28:51 pm
Some presales- typically for the highest demand shows - have a certain number of tickets allocated….

Ah yes, I had forgotten that. Having been on the losing side of artist presales many times over the years...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: lily1 on January 27, 2022, 01:29:57 pm
As I've never participated in a presale where I wasn't forced to buy tickets online due to potential sell out...

If there is a presale, can you go to box office and buy the tickets and just give them verbally the password for the presale?

I'd like to think that (band that many of us will be buying tickets to) won't sell out immediately in the presale so I was just going to meander down to the box office after work and purchase and avoid the evil ticketwanker fees.

You absolutely can't verbally give a password at the box office. If there's that much pent up demand, by the time the grumpy window worker has you repeat the password three times, writes it down, spells it wrong, then again for the second time, your tickets will be long gone.

I am 72% confident that I have bought paper "artist presale" tickets at the box office in the distant past.
definitely in the past have done that too
but now they are on ticketwanker, does that still apply

As if we need another reason to hate ticketwanker.   :)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: BrettnotBritt on January 27, 2022, 01:55:03 pm
Will be looking forward to listening to this:

‘THE BEATLES: GET BACK-THE ROOFTOP PERFORMANCE’
Complete, Newly Mixed Audio To Debut For Global Streaming

The Beatles’ Legendary 1969 Rooftop Concert Audio is Newly Mixed by Giles Martin and Sam Okell in Stereo and Dolby Atmos
New Streaming Release Leads the Celebration for This Sunday’s 53rd Anniversary of The Beatles’ Final Live Performance Atop The Apple Corps Headquarters in London

For the first time, the complete audio for the band’s legendary rooftop performance has been mixed in stereo and Dolby Atmos by Giles Martin and Sam Okell. The Beatles: Get Back–The Rooftop Performance is available for global streaming tonight, 27th January, at 9pm PST / 12am EST (tomorrow at 5am GMT).

Read the full details about the release and the many events happening over the next few days celebrating the 53rd anniversary of the band’s rooftop performance.



https://www.thebeatles.com/beatles-get-back-rooftop-performance-0
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: lily1 on January 27, 2022, 04:18:24 pm
Eddie has confirmed that presales can only be online and not in person.

In person purchase are general sale only.

This concludes today's concert lesson for the day. :)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 27, 2022, 04:39:58 pm
Eddie has confirmed that presales can only be online and not in person.

In person purchase are general sale only.

This concludes today's concert lesson for the day. :)
thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: vansmack on January 27, 2022, 05:40:46 pm
Will be looking forward to listening to this:

‘THE BEATLES: GET BACK-THE ROOFTOP PERFORMANCE’
Complete, Newly Mixed Audio To Debut For Global Streaming

The Beatles’ Legendary 1969 Rooftop Concert Audio is Newly Mixed by Giles Martin and Sam Okell in Stereo and Dolby Atmos

The inclusion of Dolby ATMOS is interesting to me.  When watching the video of a live performance with ATMOS, your mind understands the movement of the sound because you can physically see where the sound is coming from on the screen.  When just listening, I do wonder if I'm going to appreciate it as much or just find it annoying.  Will have to check it out tomorrow as 9PM is too late to night to crank it up.   
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on January 27, 2022, 05:52:36 pm
Eddie has confirmed that presales can only be online and not in person.

In person purchase are general sale only.

This concludes today's concert lesson for the day. :)

I wise person above mentioned that no way in hell that they took a presale password at the ticket window!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 27, 2022, 07:25:48 pm
Goddamn, I’m going to have to switch from Spotify to AppleMusic now, aren’t I?
so did you actually do this or was this a little virtue signaling
like every third tweet now is how much people are changing the world by canceling spotify
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: BrettnotBritt on January 27, 2022, 08:46:55 pm
Will be looking forward to listening to this:

‘THE BEATLES: GET BACK-THE ROOFTOP PERFORMANCE’
Complete, Newly Mixed Audio To Debut For Global Streaming

The Beatles’ Legendary 1969 Rooftop Concert Audio is Newly Mixed by Giles Martin and Sam Okell in Stereo and Dolby Atmos

The inclusion of Dolby ATMOS is interesting to me.  When watching the video of a live performance with ATMOS, your mind understands the movement of the sound because you can physically see where the sound is coming from on the screen.  When just listening, I do wonder if I'm going to appreciate it as much or just find it annoying.  Will have to check it out tomorrow as 9PM is too late to night to crank it up.   

I don't have an Atmos setup but I got the Sgt Pepper 50th anniversary box set and listened to the album in 5.1 and it was pretty freaking cool.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on January 27, 2022, 10:44:22 pm
Goddamn, I’m going to have to switch from Spotify to AppleMusic now, aren’t I?
so did you actually do this or was this a little virtue signaling
like every third tweet now is how much people are changing the world by canceling spotify

I like when people claim other streaming services have better sound quality as they stream through their computer and Bluetooth speakers.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 28, 2022, 08:26:03 am
Is the box office even open at 10AM when they start?
. That being said most of the time general ticket sales start at 10AM  but our box office opens at 12PM M-F
-eddie
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Cock Van Der Palm on January 28, 2022, 08:43:51 am
I know MPP ticket office stopped selling tickets for shows the first day of the sale a while ago.  Not sure if this is true.  this sucked because if you wanted to guarantee yourself a ticket to a sure-thing sell-out, you now had to go through the website and pay all the bs service charges.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 28, 2022, 10:23:44 am
and pay all the bs service charges.
hey, they are convivence fees
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on January 28, 2022, 10:44:51 am
Conviviality fee? Like getting along?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: vansmack on January 28, 2022, 11:31:35 am
https://m.neilyoungarchives.com/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on January 28, 2022, 12:32:55 pm
Well worth reading his newspaper just click on 45 adapter


Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on January 28, 2022, 02:55:59 pm
I was looking at this collection of remixes being sold on Bandcamp and cost for the vinyl  and CDs were reasonable, but the digital version was listed at 999 quid and i'm like  :o :o :o .. i get it you want people to buy physical, but geeze...

but then i read in the description..  so oh well, the shipping from the UK on even the CDs are probably very expensive...

PLEASE NOTE: One or two of tracks on this album have been licensed from a major label. The terms of this license do not allow us to sell the digital tracks, though anyone purchasing the vinyl will receive a full album download on the day of release.
With Bandcamp being a digital platform we do have to make digital available, so we set a daft prohibitive price to get around the issue.

Hope that explains it!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: vansmack on January 28, 2022, 06:11:47 pm
That's pretty funny
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on January 28, 2022, 06:16:43 pm
(http://die-augenweide.de/byrds/pic/personel.jpg)

Undated (probably mid-1980s)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 28, 2022, 08:16:33 pm
Didn't take that capitalist Neil too long to hop on Sirius!
im surprised there is zero action (AFAIK) by another big artist

Plus Neil got a pile of money from Sirius
Most others won’t

I think Neil can and should do what he wants, he literally put his money where his mouth is
#respect

But I feel like smacking everyone who has gleefully posted how they ‘stuck it to the man’ by switching from a multi- billion co to another bigger multi million company with probably similar content
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: BrettnotBritt on January 28, 2022, 08:26:32 pm
I mean another reason to ditch Spotify is by how very little they pay their artists. I believe it’s .003 to .005 cents per stream played.

Apple Music pays .01 per stream in comparison (plus it’s much easier to AirPlay to my setup).
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on January 28, 2022, 08:53:03 pm
I thought Barry Manilow joined forces.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on January 28, 2022, 10:08:48 pm
The stock price is going down, apparently people have been unable to cancel their accounts since so many are doing so.. The only musicians I’ve seen leaving so far are Nils Lofgren and Peter Frampton..

As someone pointed out Spotify simply realized that like many radio stations, more money could be made with caustic talk radio then with music…

And yes I’m a total Qobuz fanboy, but they reportedly pay musicians at the highest rate… But SoundCloud seems to be putting in a more equitable system last I saw
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on January 28, 2022, 11:15:18 pm
Joni Mitchell is pulling her music off Spotify

And yes I realize this is the equivalent of posting first in the Dropping Like Flies thread
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 29, 2022, 11:55:28 am
I mean another reason to ditch Spotify is by how very little they pay their artists. I believe it’s .003 to .005 cents per stream played.

Apple Music pays .01 per stream in comparison (plus it’s much easier to AirPlay to my setup).
THIS is a good reason, but that is not the reason people are doing it, nor exclaiming their virtuosity 

I'm not sure this number is accurate, but their is some credibility that one pays better than the other
  -edit...seems unclear to me (https://www.rollingstone.com/pro/news/apple-music-artist-payment-penny-streaming-1156932/), but they do pay artists same rates no mater what the label is significantly different (and apple sticking it to major labels a little at he same time)
-edit 2.0 this guy (https://medium.com/swlh/this-is-what-music-streaming-services-pay-artists-cd4ea3a3f734#:~:text=Apple%20Music,-Source%3A%20Apple&text=They%20pay%20quite%20a%20lot,~%246.77%20per%201000%20streams.) is claiming .0063 from apple and .0023 from spotify
Amazon unlimited seems to be the place for the most virtuous of royalty players.   


I am curious to what Neil's actual royalty checks were from Spotify? I'm just going to take a wild stab guess that he probably got over $100k a year...but again a wild guess
because David Lowery (and where is he in this debate?) said he can't buy a cup of coffee after three trillion streams
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 29, 2022, 12:24:07 pm
And yes I’m a total Qobuz fanboy,
well I guess neil is a fan too

Mentions them three times
https://neilyoungarchives.com/news/1/article?id=Spotify-More-Songs-Less-Sound

am giving Qobuz a kick in the tires, but knowing your deep musical tastes...what's the catalogue like?
I'm a family plan kinda household, so have lots of tastes to accommodate along my diverse palate
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on January 29, 2022, 12:57:05 pm
While I often refer to it as the man cave audio site, I would say it was s solid catalog.. I’ve come across the occasional indie title not available.. It’s highlighted new releases are the polar opposite of Spotify’s… I can’t speak to the depth of it’s current rap or pop offerings are, but Taylor, Olivia, BTS, and Little Simz are there for example
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on January 29, 2022, 01:18:12 pm
For the sake of own curiosity I went through some of highlighted Spotify releases for this week and they are on Qobuz

There are a least couple sites offering the ability to transfer\sync playlists between the two services.

Oh and Billie is on there and I heard some guys from a speaker company talking about amazing her album sounds in Qobuz HiRez… 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 29, 2022, 04:19:02 pm

There are a least couple sites offering the ability to transfer\sync playlists between the two services.
this interests  me…. Almost the main reason I didn’t want to leave
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on January 29, 2022, 06:07:57 pm
Soundiiz is mentioned on Qobuz’s website for playlist transfer

https://soundiiz.com/qobuz

There are a bunch of others out there with both free and premium plans

Since I’m not a big playlist user, I’ve never tried any of these, but might give one a shot because I’m interested in checking out actor Robert Carlyle’s playlists he calls Saturday Tunes. Where he highlights a variety of tracks of up and coming Uk bands.


Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on January 29, 2022, 06:27:13 pm
Before we go any further down this path, has anyone confirmed Qobuz is even a word that can be played in Wordle or is this all a giant scam?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on January 29, 2022, 06:57:19 pm
I'm partly worried about podcasts. A few of my regular listens just went to "spotify exclusive", but I don't know how far that really goes
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on January 29, 2022, 10:50:01 pm
Before we go any further down this path, has anyone confirmed Qobuz is even a word that can be played in Wordle or is this all a giant scam?

It’s allowed in Fredle

P.s.  this is a merde joke…
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on January 29, 2022, 11:13:05 pm
Nils Lofgren has joined the revolution!

I have to wonder if Neil said to him “Nils you should pull your stuff…I will buy the pizza and that’s more than you are making from Spotify!!”
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on January 30, 2022, 06:29:34 pm
I'm partly worried about podcasts. A few of my regular listens just went to "spotify exclusive", but I don't know how far that really goes

Update: Qobuz doesn't have podcasts.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 01, 2022, 07:59:10 pm
Some asshats setup a NFT music site that’s little more than links to Spotify songs.. needless to say there are some seriously pissed off artists big and small

How are NFTs even still a thing… And I saw that the artist behind that Bored Ape malarkey isn’t even benefiting from the sale of those NFTs… the whole point of NFTs were the artists would benefit from their sale..

Hope all those tech bros are enjoying all the money laundering going on

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 01, 2022, 08:08:18 pm
Hope all those tech bros are enjoying all the money laundering going on
ding!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 01, 2022, 08:24:03 pm
One of asshats behind this is in 3rd Bass

I see they are trying whatever bullshit they are up to with songs from Coldplay, John Lennon, BTS and Minor Threat…. This will not end well

The hitpiece site is suddenly unavailable  ;D
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on February 01, 2022, 08:29:27 pm
Well, I got an ACTUAL NFT directly from ROB THOMAS because somehow I wound up on his email list. So there's that.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 01, 2022, 08:39:02 pm
Looks like that sites scheme was to have  people bid on a song to have “sole ownership” just on that site… apparently for bragging rights and access to the artist  ::)

Hitpiece is basically bidding actual money to be the mayor of a song

https://twitter.com/1000timesyes/status/1488661875503996932?s=21
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on February 01, 2022, 09:08:01 pm
Well, I got an ACTUAL NFT directly from ROB THOMAS because somehow I wound up on his email list. So there's that.

Can the word "actual" really be used in conjunction with "NFT"?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on February 01, 2022, 09:57:19 pm
I'm partly worried about podcasts. A few of my regular listens just went to "spotify exclusive", but I don't know how far that really goes

Update: Qobuz doesn't have podcasts.

Podcasts actually sound better at a lower bit rate.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on February 02, 2022, 12:04:09 am
Podcasts actually sound better at a lower bit rate.

please elaborate.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on February 02, 2022, 12:07:47 am
the whole point of NFTs were the artists would benefit from their sale..

who the hell sold you that load of malarkey??
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 02, 2022, 07:48:23 am
So the hitpiece brain trust are doubling down… they put a new beta website and are claiming to be listening.. I’m sure some PR got paid well for this statement and oh my the responses

They also have the ire of David Lowry
 
https://twitter.com/joinhitpiece/status/1488715576973283330?s=21

Also business plan is apparently sell the NFT and see if the artist wanted a cut, if not they would refund the money, would take down anything by request and were expecting lawsuits as away of raising awareness.. oh a close relationship with Spotify  >:(
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 02, 2022, 08:47:06 am
https://mashable.com/article/hitpiece-nft-music
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 02, 2022, 11:17:17 am
They also have the ire of David Lowry
Well now they're really in for it!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 02, 2022, 11:49:16 am
They also have the ire of David Lowry
Well now they're really in for it!
I know can you remember the last corporate giant he went toe to toe with and emerged victoriously
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 02, 2022, 11:55:50 am
They also have the ire of David Lowry
Well now they're really in for it!
I know can you remember the last corporate giant he went toe to toe with and emerged victoriously
Big Saltine?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on February 02, 2022, 12:20:14 pm
That’s Professor Lowery to you





Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on February 02, 2022, 12:52:06 pm
(https://i.ibb.co/dJf9nqG/Screen-Shot-2022-02-02-at-11-51-02-AM.png) (https://twitter.com/annalapwood/status/1488860270923595777)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 02, 2022, 12:56:04 pm
So this site was in beta two months and clearly not on anyone’s radar until yesterday…

Looks like all it took was one artist finding their stuff there for all heck to break loose.. possibly Tom Vek and the site immediately blamed his distributor for his presence there

Dischord Records has been twitte this tweet from the owner…

I just got an NFT of Minor Threat - Bottled Violence

I can’t think of a worst band\label to use as an example of your shitty service
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 02, 2022, 01:17:30 pm
don't we have an NFT thread

just saw this
https://www.insurancequotes.com/insurance-tips/nft-insurance-non-fungible-tokens
How Does Insurance Work with NFT?
The fact that the NFT is not the artwork itself — instead a digital address for the art — presents some unique challenges from an insurance point of view. Each element introduces some risk, and it all needs to be either managed or insured.

Since the artwork could be housed on an offsite server controlled by someone else, the first danger is that the digital asset itself could be destroyed. If there was only one copy of a photograph, and that photograph is deleted, or its file gets corrupted, or it is locked into a ransomware attack, then that would be the same as an oil painting being destroyed in a fire. The insurance policy would need to protect against that digital “damage or loss.”

There are insurance implications for the NFT itself as well. If the private key is lost, that would mean that the owner no longer has control over the asset. The same goes for if a hacker gains access to the owner’s digital wallet and makes off with the token.

“Are you protecting the Token – the ERC- 721 or ERC-1155 or are you protecting the metadata describing the NFT or are you protecting the JPEG? Are you guaranteeing that the token, metadata and JPEG are always accessible? Are you guaranteeing that the metadata and JPEG have not been compromised? There are a lot more risk vectors that need to be factored in and protection policies need to be clear as to what types of policies exist,” Henley said.

In the case of art or music NFTs where royalties for usage and transfer could potentially be assigned, owners also need to protect against so-called “smart contract failure,” which could mean financial loss if royalties couldn’t be captured or paid down the road.

Being able to transfer the token to an heir after death is another insurance consideration.

With the assets being digital, that introduces an even further quirk into the question of insurance. Most traditional property insurance policies require physical damage to an asset before a claim can be filed. But, in cases of digital artwork, proving physical damage would be difficult, if not impossible.


no answers, but some good questions
Still find it's crazy how much money is going into these
as kosmo said, there is some money laundring aspect, but at the same time
if you paid 1 mill for a bored ape #324, conceivably there is no buyer for that at all, so all that money you were hoping to launder could be somewhat useless??

I'm sure there is plenty of speculative money to be made in this stuff
Also, once you make the NFT, that's really the only payout. You don't may any revenue/income off any sales after that
That's my understanding
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 02, 2022, 04:01:35 pm
the money laundering angle works this way.. since purchases can be anonymous all you have to do  buy bored ape #311 and then sell it to yourself, the money is moved from point a to point b...

and it has been pointed out that hitpiece can't be selling true NFTs as you can pay for what they are trying to sell via credit cards and to be true  blockchain purchases it has be done via a cypto currency..   or something like that...

i predicated earlier that this NFT nonsense will have the lifetime of DualDiscs which lasted two years... a format that several CD\DVD vendors warned not to us in their products..  and yes a have a couple of those in my collection and no this will not mean i will be buying any NFTs :p

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 02, 2022, 04:43:21 pm
DualDiscs which lasted two years... a format that several CD\DVD vendors warned not to us in their products..  and yes a have a couple of those in my collection
so you have a copy of this
 Straight Outta Lynwood by "Weird Al" Yankovic have been released in the United States exclusively as DualDiscs.

no this will not mean i will be buying any NFTs :p
wait, so you will be buying some NFTs

if you paid 1 mill for a bored ape #324
ahh, so I now sell it to myself
should I sell at a loss so I can claim it on my taxes
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 02, 2022, 05:53:05 pm
Look like the only dualdisc I got was for Franz Ferdinand… The Crowded House greatest hits I was also thinking of was actually a CD + DVD not DualDisc
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: vansmack on February 02, 2022, 07:33:30 pm
Soundiiz is mentioned on Qobuz’s website for playlist transfer

https://soundiiz.com/qobuz

There are a bunch of others out there with both free and premium plans

Since I’m not a big playlist user, I’ve never tried any of these, but might give one a shot because I’m interested in checking out actor Robert Carlyle’s playlists he calls Saturday Tunes. Where he highlights a variety of tracks of up and coming Uk bands.

Sorry, missed this.  I use Soundiiz often and like it.  I don't pay for it - I only use it a couple times a week.

I am not a paying member of Spotify, but I use it to create collab playlists for a few local bars and restaurants.  When we're done I transfer those playlists to my preferred paid subscription service to listen to later.  I also do it for other interesting playlists that I read/hear about...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 03, 2022, 11:20:31 am
Soundiiz is mentioned on Qobuz’s website for playlist transfer

https://soundiiz.com/qobuz

There are a bunch of others out there with both free and premium plans

Since I’m not a big playlist user, I’ve never tried any of these, but might give one a shot because I’m interested in checking out actor Robert Carlyle’s playlists he calls Saturday Tunes. Where he highlights a variety of tracks of up and coming Uk bands.

Sorry, missed this.  I use Soundiiz often and like it.  I don't pay for it - I only use it a couple times a week.

I am not a paying member of Spotify, but I use it to create collab playlists for a few local bars and restaurants.  When we're done I transfer those playlists to my preferred paid subscription service to listen to later.  I also do it for other interesting playlists that I read/hear about...

yeah i just used it to transfer one of Mr. Carlyle's playlists and it's pretty slick and easy to use.  Got 35 tracks transferred over from a 50 track playlist which isn't to shocking see as Qobuz isn't as high profile as one would like
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 05, 2022, 06:27:30 pm
Latest musical feud generating  that golden clickbait

Vedder vs Sixx
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on February 07, 2022, 01:55:50 pm
This is a reunion tour I'd eat right up...

https://www.brooklynvegan.com/operation-ivys-jesse-michaels-tim-armstrong-reunited-to-play-sound-system-in-la-watch/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 07, 2022, 04:55:55 pm
Specifically REM banter

https://www.murmurs.com/

Site goes back online

https://twitter.com/ethank/status/1490548892965900288?s=21

I just recently saw someone bemoaning how all the independently hosted forums were gone and everyone was forced into using the same few  sites for groups

So thanks to Seth for letting us keep kicking forum\bbs style all these years
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: GAY,GUY on February 07, 2022, 07:07:04 pm
Damn . . . Azealia Banks just ended, Kanye.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on February 08, 2022, 05:08:39 pm
Relevant but replace 38 with 50+

https://www.instagram.com/p/CZuHj-ttorl/?utm_medium=copy_link
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Bagley on February 22, 2022, 11:59:55 am
5 ring musical highlight:

https://consequence.net/2022/02/alexandra-trusova-stooges-i-wanna-be-your-dog/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on February 22, 2022, 01:00:55 pm
5 ring musical highlight:

https://consequence.net/2022/02/alexandra-trusova-stooges-i-wanna-be-your-dog/

Ha... hilarious. I've watched about 7 minutes of the Olympics this year and happened to catch that the other night.   
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 25, 2022, 04:28:24 pm
as a follow up to another crazed vinyl box set...

might i share with you a 50 CD box set of Al Stewart

2022 just might turn out to be the Year of the Cat if Madfish Music has anything to do with it.  On June 3, the U.K. label will release a massive, 50-CD box set anthologizing the career of celebrated singer-songwriter Al Stewart.  The Admiralty Lights: Complete Studio, Live, and Rare 1964-2009 spans five decades of the artist behind "Year of the Cat," "Time Passages," "Midnight Rocks," "Bedsitter Images," and "Nostradamus" via his complete released live and studio recordings and over 300 previously unreleased bonus tracks.

The set, limited to 2,000 copies (with the assurance that it will not be subsequently reissued), includes the following treasure trove of Stewart's works:

https://theseconddisc.com/2022/02/25/years-of-the-cat-madfish-collects-complete-al-stewart-on-massive-50-cd-box-set/

$500 on Amazon...


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Post by: grateful on February 25, 2022, 04:43:14 pm
I mean, $10 per CD is practically a bargain.
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Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 25, 2022, 06:18:21 pm
I mean, $10 per CD is practically a bargain.
Yeah! Imagine what the price would be if anyone had ever heard of Al Stewart!
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Post by: Cock Van Der Palm on February 25, 2022, 07:23:34 pm
The age of this site's boardies?  I would think most know the Year of the Cat dude.

I mean, $10 per CD is practically a bargain.
Yeah! Imagine what the price would be if anyone had ever heard of Al Stewart!
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Post by: sweetcell on February 25, 2022, 07:30:30 pm
knowing jules IRL, i suspect he's under the median age of this board... but not by tons.  i suspect he was born in the 80's.  year of the cat came out in 1976.  if he didn't grow up around a lot of classic rock/pop i could see him not being aware of who al stewart was.  it's a mild indictment of his late-20th century pop music awareness, but pretty sure he can live with that.
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Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 25, 2022, 07:44:48 pm
The age of this site's boardies?  I would think most know the Year of the Cat dude.

I mean, $10 per CD is practically a bargain.
Yeah! Imagine what the price would be if anyone had ever heard of Al Stewart!
I know enough to know that "Time Passages" is an abomination of a musical composition and really should be forgotten, not celebrated in a $500 box set
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Post by: grateful on February 25, 2022, 07:54:54 pm
knowing jules IRL, i suspect he's under the median age of this board... but not by tons.  i suspect he was born in the 80's.  year of the cat came out in 1976.  if he didn't grow up around a lot of classic rock/pop i could see him not being aware of who al stewart was.  it's a mild indictment of his late-20th century pop music awareness, but pretty sure he can live with that.

So he's basically our pet project.
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Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 25, 2022, 07:57:26 pm
knowing jules IRL, i suspect he's under the median age of this board... but not by tons.  i suspect he was born in the 80's.  year of the cat came out in 1976.  if he didn't grow up around a lot of classic rock/pop i could see him not being aware of who al stewart was.  it's a mild indictment of his late-20th century pop music awareness, but pretty sure he can live with that.

So he's basically our pet project.
Grrr,rrrr,rrr,rrlll!
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Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 25, 2022, 08:03:02 pm
it's a mild indictment of his late-20th century pop music awareness, but pretty sure he can live with that.
This has cut me to the core. All I have left to take solace in is my generation’s music, my millions of dollars and my youth. Let's all go out and buy fur coats!
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Post by: Space Freely on February 25, 2022, 08:28:40 pm
I may still have the 45 of Year of the Cat somewhere in my house, assuming my wife didn't throw out my record collection. I didn't have Time Passages though.
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Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 25, 2022, 08:52:13 pm
I may still have the 45 of Year of the Cat somewhere in my house, assuming my wife didn't throw out my record collection. I didn't have Time Passages though.
I know that little about Al, that didn't even know he had anything else people liked
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Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 28, 2022, 05:01:11 pm
Thanks to an outstanding story in the Guardian, I'm currently diving in deep to a lost musical genre from Barbados called Spouge

Per the article it was created by  Jackie “Manface” Opel from Bardados who travel to Jamaica and preformed with the Skatalites. Bunny Wailer called Opel “the greatest of them all”; Bob Marley cited him as the reason he wanted to sing.

He returned to Barbados and decided it need a sound all it's own and created Spouge.  Described as a "joyfully relentless, funky, syncopated beat that sits in a zone somewhere between vintage soca, inside-out ska and classic blue-collar soul."

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2022/feb/28/spouge-forgotten-music-genre-jackie-opel-barbados

My introduction is this awesome mix
BAJAN SPOUGE MUSIC MIX VOL 1 (BARBADOS) - https://youtu.be/1NeDS5G-qA0

This version of The Letter by Clarence Thompson really caught my ear
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDsGA0vYtlk

I would totally buy up a compilation of this stuff.. seems like something Numero Group would do a excellent job with
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Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 28, 2022, 06:11:24 pm
this spouge stuff is amazing

Wow how can one not one want to get up and move to The Daytons Two's version of this  Righteous Brothers classic

https://youtu.be/KgelMfmuzhE

Not hard to see why Richard Stoute had a hit with his version of "Vehicle" by US garage rockers The Ides Of March

https://youtu.be/N6xFgn35XWw

This is the infectious stuff - The Checkmates - Spouge Beat

https://youtu.be/83kt6gR2its
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Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 01, 2022, 08:00:00 am
The most important Neil in the music industry sell his catalogue
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/sweet-caroline-songwriter-neil-diamond-sells-catalog-rights-universal-music-1235100956/
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Post by: Starsky on March 01, 2022, 11:40:12 am
Spooge? I can’t take the genre seriously with a name like that
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Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 01, 2022, 01:44:12 pm
local artist Bartees Stranges signs with 4AD

edit.. yes i misspelled it the first time
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Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 04, 2022, 03:27:08 pm
So my favored evil music streaming service creates, sorry curates a weekly playlist especially for me which usually has the most random collection of genres

Today I got a Outkast track followed by a Mozart piano sonata… but wait here’s a Dr Dre joint
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Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 04, 2022, 04:23:23 pm
Now I get Vivaldi Four Seasons followed by Screaming Trees
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Post by: lily1 on March 08, 2022, 09:21:33 pm
Back in the day (ok, pre covid), I always used Pollstar to find concerts for the city in which I was currently travelling or working. Now it looks like they don't provide that information, even as a subscriber, unless I am missing something. What sites do you use to find this information?
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Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 08, 2022, 10:10:33 pm
Try either  Songkick.com or Bandsintown.com.. both should  have the same info, but I prefer the layout of Songkick and it gives in some cases how a show is selling
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Post by: lily1 on March 08, 2022, 10:53:14 pm
Try either  Songkick.com or Bandsintown.com.. both should  have the same info, but I prefer the layout of Songkick and it gives in some cases how a show is selling

Thanks Kosmo!
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Post by: Justin Tonation on March 19, 2022, 01:41:53 pm
(https://i.ibb.co/nmpnGGv/Screen-Shot-2022-03-19-at-1-39-57-PM.png) (https://twitter.com/RossOnRadio/status/1505233252298149888)
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Post by: Bagley on March 22, 2022, 05:24:44 pm
Any Dead Heads out there?  This is quite the treasure...
https://www.unclejohnsweb.com/joweb/DL0113H.html
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Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 23, 2022, 09:32:23 am
I think we rounded up what we thought was the last of them, thanks for identifying yourself, the 'cleaning crew' will be at your home shortly.  Please get your affairs in order
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Post by: Cock Van Der Palm on March 23, 2022, 05:04:19 pm
Not a Deadhead but did see them at the Spectrum in Philly in mid 1980's and was at the Petty/Dylan/Dead show at RFK.  I would also occasionally go to Deadhead night on Sundays at the Marble Bar in Baltimore.
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Post by: grateful on March 23, 2022, 07:16:17 pm
Most local shows, 88-95. Plus solo shows, satellite shows and ephemera.
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Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 28, 2022, 09:43:02 am
Chris Frantz and Tina Weymouth recovering after being hit by a drunk driver

https://www.facebook.com/chris.frantz.14/posts/10220622783386751
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Post by: kosmo vinyl on April 04, 2022, 11:35:28 am
Worth the watch

Film Of Prince At Age 11 Discovered In Archival Footage Of 1970 Mpls. Teachers Strike

https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2022/04/04/prince-rare-footage-1970/
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Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 05, 2022, 06:54:38 am
Who knew world class reggae music came from Arlington?!?


A band that formed at Yorktown High School in Arlington is now a Grammy winner.

SOJA, also known as Soldiers of Jah Army, won the Grammy for Best Reggae Album for their 2021 release Beauty in the Silence, following two prior nominations in the same category.
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Post by: kosmo vinyl on April 08, 2022, 08:10:27 am
Looks like many if not most of the tracks on The Clash bootleg "Rat Patrol From Fort Bragg" are getting an official with the forthcoming deluxe re-issue of "Combat Rock".  Haven't seen a good run down of which of the rare tracks are those demos, etc  that are included in the bootleg and what is called The Clash's lost album.  The forthcoming release is called "Combat Rock/The People's Hall".

Some of the tracks from the bootleg have been given new names i.e. The Fulham Connection’ (previously known as ‘The Beautiful People Are Ugly Too’).

It's annoying that the two tracks done with  Ranking Roger at the time are being released on a separate 7" and not included as part of even the CD release.  I saw these tracks called unheard, but have been readily available on YouTube for awhile.

Of course be sure to order the Target exclusive of the album on Red Vinyl

https://www.nme.com/news/music/the-clash-announce-special-edition-of-combat-rock-with-the-peoples-hal-ranking-rogerl-3199454


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Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 08, 2022, 08:27:44 am
It's annoying that the two tracks done with  Ranking Roger at the time are being released on a separate 7" and not included as part of even the CD release.
this annoyed me too, not sure why they didn't include it
or have some special package that included it
can't say I'm too excited about this eventhough i love that stuff
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Post by: Starsky on April 08, 2022, 08:34:01 am
I just can’t get it up for combat….

The Clash ended with Sandinista

I mean if I hear should I stay or should I go or rock the casbah one more time I will blow my brains out
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Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 08, 2022, 08:48:50 am
So I get that...and kinda feel the same way about those songs
...although I do love that 12inch instrumental of rock the casbah

but there are some really great other tracks
Know your rights is one of my all-time favorite clash songs
Straight to hell is a straight-up classic, live versions of this are killer (and an excellent sample for M.I.A. - Paper Planes)
Car Jamming!  I love when he's screaming: "Hey fellas, Lauren bacall, In a car jam, Yeah I don't believe it"
and this great line too "And what is that,  funk multi-national Anthem rocking from a thousand King kong cassette decks"

and Red angel Dragnet...Boardie Kosmo sings vocal!
Getto Defendant with Allen Ginsberg is also one of my favs

and the last song is such a great way to end an album: death is a star
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Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 08, 2022, 08:54:41 am
it was a very good year...50 years ago
Some of my all time favorite albums (lot of duds on here TBH)
(https://scontent-iad3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/278017641_7166573560084225_3165679296507137281_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=pTptoGD8eOEAX9sTNBA&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-2.xx&oh=00_AT-TTg1bS_p7mrJyc-i4Q5vUWVClPQFBgLjqcw0EGJtfuA&oe=625578AA)
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Post by: kosmo vinyl on April 08, 2022, 09:02:40 am
I always come back to this, but the only Clash album they haven't done anything deluxe with is "Give 'Em Enough Rope" I personally think it's a great album but apparently the band weren't enthralled with the recording process and commercial sound for that one, so there is probably nothing extra floating around.  And I'm guessing all of the Sandinista! era recordings got put out as well..
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Post by: Starsky on April 08, 2022, 09:05:52 am
They have done a Sandinista deluxe?
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Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 08, 2022, 09:18:55 am
They have done a Sandinista deluxe?
so instead of 3 slabs it's 12 ;)

this is a great quote

Despite the positive critical reception, Sandinista! was a flop compared to its Platinum-selling predecessor and spawned no hit singles. Wry in retrospect, Mick Jones claimed he “always saw it as a record for people who were on oil rigs or Arctic stations that weren’t able to get to the record shops regularly.” Not exactly a huge market.
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Post by: Starsky on April 08, 2022, 09:23:30 am
Good article

I just love all the dub influence and the album is chock full of classics


Just listen to the Sound of sinners
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Post by: grateful on April 08, 2022, 12:20:45 pm
Can I just say that it's killing me that the Mountain Goats are finally playing in Tallahassee?


(I mean, they've played there before, but, man!)
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Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 16, 2022, 04:51:31 pm
https://americansongwriter.com/pink-floyds-david-gilmour-on-the-band-touring-again-i-suppose-its-a-possibility/

David Gilmour has hinted maybe—just maybe—the band will get back together to tour. At least, he hasn’t taken it completely off the table.

“We haven’t even thought about doing live shows, but I suppose it’s a possibility,” said Gilmour in a recent interview. “I haven’t done one in such a long time, but who knows – I don’t know.”
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Post by: Starsky on May 16, 2022, 08:27:08 pm
I know… it’s kind of unbelievable as I really think he retired with the full intention of staying retired

Didn’t he make an appearance at a Lucius show last week?

I get the sense he is bored…

A Pink Floyd tour after nearly 30 years seems utterly pointless but a solo tour could be possible
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Post by: kosmo vinyl on May 16, 2022, 09:16:11 pm
While reading a review of Lust For Life, I was wondering what became of the Sales brothers since they were involved in Tin Machine.. still really like that one and it holds up really well IMHO

Anyways Wikipedia is a little vague as to what the brothers have done of late, but this bit about Tony Sales the bassist was wow

He and his brother, Hunt, did some recordings together which were stored away after Tony had a car accident in 1979 so severe that he was all but dead for several minutes before being revived. He was consequently in a coma for over eight months but eventually recovered from his injuries and went back into music.
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Post by: GAY,GUY on May 17, 2022, 01:49:15 pm
EVERYTHING IS NOW OK, IN THE WORLD OF HERO WORHSIPPING A SINGLE BAND.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxyvPR1s5vw
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Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 17, 2022, 02:03:20 pm
that does look good.  Their last show at the 9:30 was top notch IMO
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Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 31, 2022, 08:20:13 am
Neat story I'd never heard

“Hello darkness, my old friend…” Everybody knows the iconic Simon & Garfunkel song, but do you know the amazing story behind the first line of The Sounds of Silence?
It began 62 years ago, when Arthur “Art” Garfunkel, a Jewish kid from Queens, enrolled in Columbia University. During freshman orientation, Art met a student from Buffalo named Sandy Greenberg, and they immediately bonded over their shared passion for literature and music. Art and Sandy became roommates and best friends. With the idealism of youth, they promised to be there for each other no matter what.
Soon after starting college, Sandy was struck by tragedy. His vision became blurry and although doctors diagnosed it as temporary conjunctivitis, the problem grew worse. Finally after seeing a specialist, Sandy received the devastating news that severe glaucoma was destroying his optic nerves. The young man with such a bright future would soon be completely blind.
Sandy was devastated and fell into a deep depression. He gave up his dream of becoming a lawyer and moved back to Buffalo, where he worried about being a burden to his financially-struggling family. Consumed with shame and fear, Sandy cut off contact with his old friends, refusing to answer letters or return phone calls.
Then suddenly, to Sandy’s shock, his buddy Art showed up at the front door. He was not going to allow his best friend to give up on life, so he bought a ticket and flew up to Buffalo unannounced. Art convinced Sandy to give college another go, and promised that he would be right by his side to make sure he didn’t fall - literally or figuratively.
Art kept his promise, faithfully escorting Sandy around campus and effectively serving as his eyes. It was important to Art that even though Sandy had been plunged into a world of darkness, he should never feel alone. Art actually started calling himself “Darkness” to demonstrate his empathy with his friend. He’d say things like, “Darkness is going to read to you now.” Art organized his life around helping Sandy.
One day, Art was guiding Sandy through crowded Grand Central Station when he suddenly said he had to go and left his friend alone and petrified. Sandy stumbled, bumped into people, and fell, cutting a gash in his shin. After a couple of hellish hours, Sandy finally got on the right subway train. After exiting the  station at 116th street, Sandy bumped into someone who quickly apologized - and Sandy immediately recognized Art’s voice! Turned out his trusty friend had followed him the whole way home, making sure he was safe and giving him the priceless gift of independence. Sandy later said, “That moment was the spark that caused me to live a completely different life, without fear, without doubt. For that I am tremendously grateful to my friend.”
Sandy graduated from Columbia and then earned graduate degrees at Harvard and Oxford. He married his high school sweetheart and became an extremely successful entrepreneur and philanthropist.
While at Oxford, Sandy got a call from Art. This time Art was the one who needed help. He’d formed a folk rock duo with his high school pal Paul Simon, and they desperately needed $400 to record their first album. Sandy and his wife Sue had literally $404 in their bank account, but without hesitation Sandy gave his old friend what he needed.
Art and Paul's first album was not a success, but one of the songs, The Sounds of Silence, became a #1 hit a year later. The opening line echoed the way Sandy always greeted Art. Simon & Garfunkel went on to become one of the most beloved musical acts in history.
The two Columbia graduates, each of whom has added so much to the world in his own way, are still best friends. Art Garfunkel said that when he became friends with Sandy, “my real life emerged. I became a better guy in my own eyes, and began to see who I was - somebody who gives to a friend.” Sandy describes himself as “the luckiest man in the world.”
Adapted from Sandy Greenberg’s memoir: “Hello Darkness, My Old Friend: How Daring Dreams and Unyielding Friendship Turned One Man’s Blindness into an Extraordinary Vision for Life."
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Post by: Cock Van Der Palm on May 31, 2022, 09:06:57 am
 Nice story
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Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 06, 2022, 10:54:14 am
Sounds promising

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2022/jun/06/lou-reeds-earliest-velvet-underground-demos-unearthed-for-reissue

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Post by: grateful on June 06, 2022, 11:15:24 am
Sounds promising

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2022/jun/06/lou-reeds-earliest-velvet-underground-demos-unearthed-for-reissue



Would listen.
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Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on June 06, 2022, 11:17:37 am
Sounds promising

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2022/jun/06/lou-reeds-earliest-velvet-underground-demos-unearthed-for-reissue



Would listen.
Will listen.
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Post by: grateful on June 06, 2022, 11:19:40 am
Sounds promising

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2022/jun/06/lou-reeds-earliest-velvet-underground-demos-unearthed-for-reissue



Would listen.
Will listen.

Correct use of future conditional instead of subjunctive mood.
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Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 06, 2022, 05:02:49 pm


Would listen.
Will listen.
did you listen to the little teaser...I think I need to change my pants
https://youtu.be/UFcrIe7d3uQ
gave me the chills hearing that


but I noticed its also it's letting you know you are going to be unloading your wallet on a regular basis as the go through the lou reed archives.  I think they have a plan where they can ACH it out of your bank on a scheduled date


https://loureedarchive.com/products/words-music-may-1965-deluxe-lp-t-shirt-lithograph-bundle
only on this edition a cover of Bob Dylan’s “Don’t Think Twice, It’s All Right,”

they should release a reel to reel edition, now that would be fucking cool (few could play it, but still cool)

Ok, couldn't resist and picked up the yellow lp
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Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 07, 2022, 08:11:45 am
So I'm no Kraftwork expert...but 9:30's email blast seems to have the timeline off

Without them, there's no Duran Duran as much as there's no Roxy Music (or Brian Eno, or Bryan Ferry); there's no LCD Soundsystem as much as there's no Stereolab. And don't get us started on their influence on Devo and Gary Numan...


Don't roxy music and brian eno predate Kraftwork?
I guess the impact on their later work is what they are trying to say??
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Post by: Starsky on June 07, 2022, 08:54:11 am
Are Kraftwerk and Kraftwork related?

Well krautrock had big influence on Eno and I guess Avalon era Roxy but early Roxy and Kraftwerk ran parallel
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Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 07, 2022, 08:59:49 am
So I'm no Kraftwork expert...
funny I originally wrote Kraftwerk and 'corrected' it...
but the statement still stands

I guess I always thought they started in like 74 with autobahn, but no see they released some obscure stuff that eno and co probably had their grubby mits on in 1970
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Post by: Starsky on June 07, 2022, 09:12:10 am
No not really.. I think certainly Roxy incorporated Kraftwerk influence when they became practically a synth band on Avalon but that was 1982 and Eno was long gone

Eno became a kraut rocker in 1976-77 even recording albums with Cluster, Moebius, Roedelius etc

At least that’s what I think but krautrock is a genre I have hardly explored
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Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 07, 2022, 09:21:38 am
At least that’s what I think but krautrock is a genre I have hardly explored
yeah I think NEU! when you say krautrock, not Kraftwerk
and other than knowing their name and genre/influence...that's where my knowledge stops
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Post by: Starsky on June 07, 2022, 10:02:40 am
Pavement’s Wowee zowee LP cover is a knockoff parody whatever of krautrockers Guru Guru
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Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 07, 2022, 10:08:03 am
Pavement’s Wowee zowee LP cover is a knockoff parody whatever of krautrockers Guru Guru
ya think
(https://i.discogs.com/upPFVGVSNqvkUJVqW5i2EFAZUJADbsQ0Sco0Jubt7KA/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:587/w:600/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTc2MDY1/OS0xNDgyOTIxNTQ5/LTU3MTMuanBlZw.jpeg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on June 07, 2022, 10:15:21 am
I would love to collect krautrock but these records are so rare… definitely a big hole in my collection
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on June 07, 2022, 03:53:00 pm
(https://i.discogs.com/oONX9RGf8s3HjxJws95VZIEo79kW2H0lrmkD-SwREiQ/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:600/w:600/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTEzMzk2/MC0xNDE4MjQwMTQx/LTkxMjUuanBlZw.jpeg)(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-apf2eqFLfbE/VTj5hwu5rXI/AAAAAAAAai8/0iIDVtFS49s/s1600/cover_Kraftwerk70.jpg)
(https://progrography.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/kraftwerk2.jpg)(https://i.discogs.com/6DTIr-opl7ay1h0w4Xn45iL3H3Hy6GVjDk1-RstgGe4/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:600/w:600/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTEyNTIw/NS0xNDM4MDMyNDkw/LTg2MDIuanBlZw.jpeg)

Before Autobahn. "Tone Float" was 1970. Ralf & Florian left Organisation to form Kraftwerk.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Mobius on June 09, 2022, 05:48:49 am
No Kraftwerk no Detroit Techno. No Detroit Techno, no New Dance Show. No Kraftwerk and no New Dance Show, no this . . .

https://youtu.be/ZOcf9Uq6EjQ

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on June 09, 2022, 06:32:55 am
Deep dive into Musical Youth

https://twitter.com/thewrongtom/status/1534472883606634497?s=21&t=yTsoNPkYo6fEfUlhS65tNA
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on June 09, 2022, 07:21:57 am
Also Stranger Things related is Kate Bush charting all over the place 36 years after "Running Up That Hill" and album "Hounds Of Love" were released.

Probably not possible without the internet...

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on June 11, 2022, 10:03:54 am
(https://i.ibb.co/10x345Z/Screen-Shot-2022-06-11-at-10-01-37-AM.png) (https://twitter.com/jzux/status/1534925718869655557)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on June 11, 2022, 05:20:14 pm
Hey sweets, I’m in need of some 8tracks and associated audio equipment, can you swing by this estate sale and pickup some items for me and the rest of the forum?  Thanks

https://www.estatesale-finder.com/viewsale.php?saleid=10956&fbclid=IwAR3RYAvCADBX9f4-xqogLYDCTO9f6GvNqUVeSX-r3KwNlRgpH_6HrVp2qZk

10`S OF THOUSANDS OF 8 TRACKS
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on June 12, 2022, 10:46:36 am
Never thought about it in the past but today I learned that Bun E. Carlos’s actual name is Bunezuela Carlos

Also free band name
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on June 16, 2022, 10:34:24 am
Found out today about a Welsh band calling themselves 

The Eggmen Whooooo!

Described as Fuzz Surf Garage Noise Pop band
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 22, 2022, 09:11:19 am
could be interesting, likely will suck

https://www.nme.com/news/music/liam-gallagher-hints-at-continued-collaboration-with-the-stone-roses-john-squire-3250581
Liam Gallagher has hinted at future collaborations with The Stone Roses‘ John Squire, teasing that a “super group [is] incoming”.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on June 22, 2022, 09:28:38 am
Secret Machines announce new EP ‘Day 21’ and reissue of 2008’s ‘Dreaming Of Dreaming’

Hear a newly released version of the song 'Dreaming Of Dreaming' featuring Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds' Jim Sclavunos

The duo of Brandon Curtis and Josh Garza have announced that both EPs will be released on July 15. They’ve also released the title track from the ‘Day 21’ EP and ‘Dreaming of Dreaming (Mavrogeorgis and Sclavunos Version)’ from the reissue.

new version with Nick and Jim

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-akQbf9M3oI

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on June 22, 2022, 10:10:15 am
Actual Banter about Music

Rare interview with Kate Bush that starts about 13 minutes in, but the intro is worth a listen as well

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0018gqv
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on June 24, 2022, 06:47:39 am
I knew Glastonbury was a huge festival, but learned that there are 93 official stages at it and the BBC has tasked someone with visiting all 93 throughout the weekend.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 24, 2022, 08:27:09 am
that's insane, there is no way there are 93 stages
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on June 24, 2022, 08:52:31 am
I've been to Glasto and there was definitely not 93 stages (albeit 15ish years ago).

EDIT: I just looked at their website and it seems Glastonbury has become Coachella + Hopscotch; small local bars and venues now have shows during the duration of the proper festival and its all considered one big thing.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on June 25, 2022, 10:49:20 pm
Bille Eilish and Olivia Rodrigo rail against the Supreme Court and this old fart plays videos of Johnny Depp. Fucking gross.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-10953391/Sir-Paul-McCartney-divides-opinion-projects-clip-Johnny-Depp-stage-Glastonbury.html
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on June 29, 2022, 11:25:38 am
Never took Cock Palm as a Billy Strings guy
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Cock Van Der Palm on June 29, 2022, 02:19:19 pm
1st time seeing him.  I'll let you know, but I like bluegrass and jam bands occasionally and I've heard such great things from friends/family...we'll see.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on June 29, 2022, 09:57:53 pm
A man named Trey Anastasio has anointed two, third tier hamband guitar players to knighthood in the past week.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on July 08, 2022, 08:54:10 am
When you arrogantly believe the Circle Jerks recorded the original version of "I Wanna Destroy You" and Robyn Hitchcock shows up and corrects your sorry asre...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FXJBrPxXkAARhCo?format=jpg&name=large)

Robyn Hitchcock
@RobynHitchcock

If you must be a dick on the internet, please at least do us the courtesy of being right

https://twitter.com/RobynHitchcock/status/1545369864231059457?s=20&t=n_3i5CiGPJvktlFNvCCiUQ
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 13, 2022, 11:42:00 am
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/293353121_589494775881662_7864616950466340737_n.jpg?stp=dst-jpg_p526x296&_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=LmC94dJeGY8AX9Vm1mE&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=00_AT-Zb0o4ccKbhdsUmJOrdyZIP3SoFi1VviQHETVEkJDClQ&oe=62D2F337)
 at Scala, Kings Cross.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on July 15, 2022, 02:22:10 pm
So exactly are these 90's power pop that people are carrying on about, because I listened to a ton of major label and indie power pop in the 90s.  never really considered Too Much Joy a power pop band..

off the top of my head the better known power pop bands of the 90s would have been

Semisonic
Fountains of Wayne
Sloan
Posies

I was also listening to

Love Nut/Myrcale Brah
The Caulfields
Greenberry Woods
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on July 31, 2022, 04:10:00 pm
WMUC has moved from 88.1 to 90.5 (http://wmuc.umd.edu/node/954)

Plus, they have tripled their power. 30 watts now, baby!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on August 01, 2022, 09:41:26 am
someone may need to check on smackie when he sees this one..

The Welsh band Rusty Nutz self described as "experimental noise pop group" have released an album called "We tried to make it big but something somewhere went wrong and we can't work out what that something is" on

21 Formats!!!!

Of which I guess at least 7 are obsolete formats... not sure about the status of  DATs,

https://lavendersweep.bandcamp.com/album/the-rusty-nutz-we-tried-to-make-it-big-but-something-somewhere-went-wrong-and-we-cant-work-out-what-that-something-is

Gonna grab this one on the boring Digital download format...  A very UK punk influenced album, hearing the likes of Still Little Fingers on it.

Had to look up some of the cassettes formats this is on including   Elcaset, Digital Compact Cassette, Sound Tape Cartridge, Audio Craft Cassette and NT Digital.

Both Elcaset and Sound Tape Cartridge were attempts to bring reel to reel quality to the Cassette format.  The Elcaset is totally wacky format.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elcaset
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/06/elcaset-large-cassettes/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 01, 2022, 05:14:55 pm
When I hear ‘welsh band’ there is only one bordie I think of
And it’s not smax
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on August 01, 2022, 05:39:17 pm

It’s the number of physical formats involved in the release silly

And you do know Wales has a rich history of bands beyond SFA and Tom Jones
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on August 01, 2022, 06:14:03 pm
not sure about the status of  DATs,

dead format.  other than a few studios that still use it to transfer high-quality copies, and trance DJs who still have collections of their late 90's/early-2000's pirated white label copies, no one is using DAT anymore.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on August 01, 2022, 06:57:08 pm
So I guess the fate would be the same for the compact video cartridges as well then…
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on August 01, 2022, 11:08:28 pm
Of course Muse is selling NFTs (https://www.theguardian.com/music/2022/aug/01/muse-release-nft-edition-album-will-of-the-people-charts)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on August 03, 2022, 10:07:44 am
While listening to a marvelous new Gwenno album I realized how much I was missing get the chance to play some favorite tunes before bands at the 9:30 Club in Washington, DC. So I concocted this playlist as what I would spin at an upcoming Franz Ferdinand show.

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0jE1cLWX1fcxkVQZZYxlCy?si=fa7a970958ba4e7d
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on August 03, 2022, 10:12:37 am
Why are you not spinning?

I am hoping to go to Franz
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on August 03, 2022, 10:17:54 am
Why are you not spinning?

I am hoping to go to Franz

Haven't spun there in years, not even sure they have the equipment there anymore.  Most bands bring their own playlists at this point and this is the first show I've been interested in seeing and or spinning in awhile.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on August 03, 2022, 10:41:50 am
Why are you not spinning?

I am hoping to go to Franz

Haven't spun there in years, not even sure they have the equipment there anymore.  Most bands bring their own playlists at this point and this is the first show I've been interested in seeing and or spinning in awhile.

Right. Well that’s a bummer….

Look me up if you end up going!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on August 26, 2022, 12:47:46 pm
Now you can jam with the Grateful Dead in 1972, or just play with the mix if that's more your jam.

https://www.dead.net/playingintheband
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Bagley on August 26, 2022, 03:44:12 pm
while we're on that dreaded subject-if anyone's interested:

https://fans.live/products/philco-8-26-22?utm_source=FANS.live&utm_campaign=4f4f50fc4e-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2022_08_25_04_44&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_1311fee6da-4f4f50fc4e-32760748&mc_cid=4f4f50fc4e&mc_eid=faaee3e1b2
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on September 02, 2022, 10:09:28 am
Why do the Osees skip DC on every single tour?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on September 02, 2022, 10:10:57 am
Why do the Osees skip DC on every single tour?

Politics
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on September 02, 2022, 10:19:21 am
Why do the Osees skip DC on every single tour?

Politics

Srzly?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on September 02, 2022, 11:11:18 am
It’s all political
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 03, 2022, 04:43:58 pm
Watching the tail end of Taylor Hawkins Tribute and for the Foo’s set they have brought out Josh Freese, the Blink 182 dude, Nandi Bushell the viral drummer girl, and now Rufus Taylor son of Roger Taylor  who with his long blonde hair looks a bit like Taylor.

Highlight of the Queen set was the Eurovision dude Sam Ryder who is living his best life singing “Someone To Love”…

Also, Rush was totally meh…

Hopefully they don’t take the stream down right away, would like to catch the beginning

So is Josh Freese Taylor’s replacement, he’s certainly played with many others, although Rufus is rocking it pretty hard…
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on September 03, 2022, 05:06:53 pm
What a set list

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/foo-fighters/2022/wembley-stadium-london-england-3b0a5bb.html
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 03, 2022, 05:11:47 pm
Final drummers sitting in are Omar Hakim and Shane Hawkins totally killing it on “My Hero”
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 03, 2022, 05:16:45 pm
What a set list

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/foo-fighters/2022/wembley-stadium-london-england-3b0a5bb.html

Whoa a very rare Jason Falkner appearance
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on September 03, 2022, 05:34:43 pm
First time Paul has sang Oh Darling
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 03, 2022, 05:35:05 pm
Didn’t realize Josh Freese sat in with The Coattail Riders earlier in the day… still a solid choice as a replacement..

Ugh hopefully Paramount+ will put this back up…
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 04, 2022, 04:58:55 pm
Full Taylor Hawkins Tribute Concert now on demand at least on Paramount+, not sure about MTV, etc…

People were livid on The Twitter earlier because only the highlight show was up
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 05, 2022, 04:54:54 pm
Got through the rest of the Tribute concert and it’s a great watch, although oddly what’s up doesn’t include the Oasis songs or from the Pretenders set Tattooed   Love Boys.  Sound mix was a little off at times for vocals, but could be expected.  Many were clearly enjoying the event, Lars, Brian Young and the James Gang drummer had huge smiles while playing.

The choice to have Gaz Coombes sing “Every Little Thing She Does Is Magic” seemed odd, as it didn’t really suit him.  But he nailed “Modern Love”.  Supergrass smashed it and then Mick Quinn announced we wouldn’t see the band again for the foreseeable future.

Great wrap up of the show found here… and as a side note hard to believe people are still carrying about the lack of Eddie Van Halen tribute concert.  The amount of guff Wolf takes from VH fans is ridiculous

https://www.loudersound.com/features/the-taylor-hawkins-tribute-show-proved-rock-is-more-powerful-than-ever-but-not-in-the-way-you-might-think
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 05, 2022, 05:00:23 pm
Forgot to note that from that article I learned Rufus Taylor is currently drumming with The Darkness, which would partly explain why their singer was doing vocals throughout the concert.  Justin Hawkins of course was great on those songs
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 05, 2022, 05:08:07 pm
And yes Jason Falkner being there was a bit of one of these things doesn’t seem like the others.  I guess at this point when he’s not touring with Beck he’s a LA session musician, but I have to wonder if he isn’t working with Dave’s daughter Violet in the studio… really wish he do more solo albums, but maybe it’s not worth the hassle of releasing and promoting them at this point
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 05, 2022, 05:14:33 pm
Jason is also touring with St. Vincent at the moment
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 08, 2022, 03:36:21 pm
Cool shot I never knew existed
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-pvbnIXIAAOq4C?format=jpg&name=small=)
Sid Vicious performing with Nancy Spungen and Mick Jones of The Clash at Max's Kansas City in New York City on September 7, 1978

although I'm glad we can't hear it...

also Nancy Date of death: October 12, 1978
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on September 08, 2022, 04:02:51 pm
She looks badass in the pic


Everyone always lays it all on her…..wonder if that’s the true story
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 08, 2022, 05:07:11 pm
she almost looks chunky for a heroin addict too

this is actually a great book
(https://www2.alibris-static.com/and-i-dont-want-to-live-this-life/isbn/9780449205433_l.jpg)
by her mom
Read it in the late 80s, may give it another review
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: GAY,GUY on September 08, 2022, 10:05:42 pm
Cool shot I never knew existed
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-pvbnIXIAAOq4C?format=jpg&name=small=)
Sid Vicious performing with Nancy Spungen and Mick Jones of The Clash at Max's Kansas City in New York City on September 7, 1978

although I'm glad we can't hear it...

also Nancy Date of death: October 12, 1978

I worship Sid.  Always have.  Such a powerful figure of pop culture.   Thanks for this photo.  I enjoy, the stare of every aspect of it!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on September 09, 2022, 12:24:55 pm
former forumer funniez

https://twitter.com/malitzd/status/1568244197584502784
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 09, 2022, 12:41:54 pm
Senior Culture Editor, The Washington Post...and learned everything he knows from the 930 forum
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 13, 2022, 01:22:03 pm
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/2726/1450/products/UL-KingDiamond_W2_Grid_2048.jpg?v=1662669723)

In 1982, Mercyful Fate embarked on their first mini tour of Europe. The tour introduced King Diamond to the heavy metal world and launched him as an icon who has influenced countless metal fans and bands. This is where it began! The latest 7” scale ULTIMATES! King Diamond features premium paint and details, interchangeable heads and hands, his trademark crossed bones mic stand, a soft goods robe that replicates the one he wore onstage on that debut tour, and is packaged in a collector-friendly deluxe window box with a slipcase cover!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 16, 2022, 10:04:34 am
Love coming across some of these old pics that are rarely seen
not sure what their fascination was with the caped crusaders, but I suspect it had more to do with the camp aspect

Nico and Andy 1967 (for Esquire Magazine)
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/306610039_515130470618058_8610908865031958093_n.jpg?stp=cp6_dst-jpg&_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=6rxKL13sQvsAX9YuvOu&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=00_AT_AammYaeAPxd9Cddl2Uv_IPytaYAlXS8_Zr6DX4VtpBA&oe=632A253F)

Reed and Cale (not sure who the kid is or the date)
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/304772675_5972932312735567_9222116331656748715_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=dbeb18&_nc_ohc=xbQK81C7K6cAX9_zBTZ&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=00_AT8W3ATi4d80icGR3CNIYESa8fOzSkLKvMv3v1DpOO5Ssg&oe=6329E561)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 16, 2022, 10:08:37 am
Reed and Cale (not sure who the kid is or the date)
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/304772675_5972932312735567_9222116331656748715_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=dbeb18&_nc_ohc=xbQK81C7K6cAX9_zBTZ&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=00_AT8W3ATi4d80icGR3CNIYESa8fOzSkLKvMv3v1DpOO5Ssg&oe=6329E561)
That young man grew up to be RuPaul.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 16, 2022, 10:12:39 am
That young man grew up to be RuPaul.
+1
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 16, 2022, 02:26:42 pm
These landed in the mailbox today

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fcy-Z4mXoAAWULQ?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on September 16, 2022, 02:38:49 pm
That Nico pic is the worst of her i ever seen

I didn’t think a camera could fuck up nico…
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 16, 2022, 03:15:00 pm
That Nico pic is the worst of her i ever seen

I didn’t think a camera could fuck up nico…
you are not wrong and it was esquire, so you'd think they had a good person behind the lens

there was a funny comment "Ok, nico, we are going to do one more shot, please act as disinterested as possible"

I still think it's cool, I love that Andy is in it.  Seems somewhat rare
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 21, 2022, 02:55:35 pm
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/293558081_405214794979873_2776753201613002936_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=yht64KqEWvMAX8gVAtN&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=00_AT9lL0SHfp4U23OvxcpCSi8sbtIsf4Z8NFN98IF-kGPrYA&oe=63304601)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on September 23, 2022, 11:53:11 am
So, this Space Force song (https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/21/us/space-force-semper-supra.html). Apparently, the target audience is supposed to be people who are mostly dead.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 26, 2022, 08:07:57 am
I won't post the video I saw of this as it might be a human rights violation...

Not that I would willingly go to a Ian Brown solo show, but he just did a 23 song set of solo stuff without a band backing him... so punters were paying 40 quid for badly sung karaoke..
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on October 06, 2022, 10:26:45 am
I learned today that the Hoodoo Guru's song "Generation Gap" is actually a cover with updated lyrics of a 70s Country song sung by Jeannie C. Riley of "Harper Valley PTA" fame released on Sun Records.

Sneaky Aussies...

https://youtu.be/s1MmxuwHdjQ
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on October 06, 2022, 10:36:31 am
This popped up on the twitter and had banter from normally silent Chris Lowe of Pet Shop Boys, a very odd cameo from him and in general for sure

The episode of Neighbours shown today in 1995 contains one of the great inexplicable soap cameos.

https://twitter.com/whydontyoutube/status/1577637225327517697?s=20&t=BnJlatwchS4l1b19OBE3nA
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on October 07, 2022, 05:25:16 pm
LOL (https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=670275167790770&set=a.294962125322078) (can't embed image, so here's a link...)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on October 09, 2022, 04:00:36 pm
Goth Babe is neither of these things
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on October 18, 2022, 12:48:27 pm
made another one of my silly little if I were still DJing playlists for the upcoming Bartees Strange show, which should have a more clever name then I gave it... and I should have checked the show's lineup to see that Spring Silver was on the bill, otherwise I wouldn't have included him in the playlist...

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/020Ow0BjbkLG7Tn9UkF6Bk?si=7dea65ba4bf245c8
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: GAY,GUY on October 18, 2022, 02:15:31 pm
made another one of my silly little if I were still DJing playlists for the upcoming Bartees Strange show, which should have a more clever name then I gave it... and I should have checked the show's lineup to see that Spring Silver was on the bill, otherwise I wouldn't have included him in the playlist...

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/020Ow0BjbkLG7Tn9UkF6Bk?si=7dea65ba4bf245c8

I pay attention to mostly every one of your tweets . . . but I never like them, because I don't do that. I will though, in the future. Plus, excontradiction; his photo is hot.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on October 20, 2022, 08:37:21 am
For sidefutz


Rumors of Love & Rockets touring next summer.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 20, 2022, 08:37:54 am
For sidefutz


Rumors of Love & Rockets touring next summer.
I'm tingling...they will skip dc of course
I'd be willing to road trip for this date
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on October 21, 2022, 12:30:46 pm
This photo got posted on The Twitter of Glen Matlock, Clem Burke, Paul Weller and Mick Talbot who were hanging out at the record release party for Leah Weller's debut album.

Clem referred to is "Our new pop group The Has Beens"... I would totally pay money to see this group live...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FfmWFGmWIAE8yr-?format=jpg&name=small)

https://twitter.com/NinRyan/status/1583369808581574657?s=20&t=NKdtlmbUVtu0foGsVyJIiA
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on October 24, 2022, 11:05:27 am
https://aviewfrommyseat.com/venue/9%3A30+Club/
https://aviewfrommyseat.com/venue/The+Anthem/
https://aviewfrommyseat.com/venue/Lincoln+Theatre/
https://aviewfrommyseat.com/venue/The+Fillmore+Silver+Spring/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on October 24, 2022, 11:13:40 am
Things I learned over the weekend....

Tanya Tucker was 13 when she recorded "Delta Dawn"  :o

Jessie Woods son of Ronnie Woods is now playing guitar with still active BritRock band Reef.  Ronnie also showed up to play guitar with the band over the weekend.  Also of note Duran Duran's Andy Taylor produced their latest and it touring with them as well..  Getting some major AC/DC vibes from Reef's latest "Shoot Me Your Ace"
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on October 24, 2022, 11:20:48 am
and speaking of the progeny of musicians, Riley Broudie the son of Ian Broudie and subject of the Lightning Seed's song "The Life Of Riley" is now recording and touring with dad...

New just released The Lightning Seeds album "See You In The Stars" is very good as it happens
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on October 26, 2022, 08:57:46 am
Happy Welsh Music Prize Day to all who celebrate it!

also, I'm listening to one of the nominees Breichiau Hir and they have a track marked as Explicit.  Guess I need to brush up on my Welsh swear words
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Bagley on October 26, 2022, 09:51:23 am
Back at cha!

I'll attempt to dig out my Gorky's Zygotic Mynci discs....
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on October 26, 2022, 04:16:16 pm
Whelp Wet Leg have jumped the tea cup, just got named dropped on a long running English Soap…

Pipe down in the cheap seats
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on October 26, 2022, 05:01:16 pm
Probably the most out-of-nowhere hyped band since The Knack. I have yet to listen to them.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 26, 2022, 05:04:10 pm
Probably the most out-of-nowhere hyped band since The Knack. I have yet to listen to them.
really!
although I think I was chasing the Ice cream truck down the road when the Knack hit it big
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on October 26, 2022, 05:12:54 pm
Your Welsh Music Prize winner for 2022 is

Adwaith - Bato Mato

https://adwaithmusic.bandcamp.com/album/bato-mato

Get stuck in

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on October 26, 2022, 05:27:20 pm
Better than wet leg
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 26, 2022, 05:35:26 pm
Better than wet leg
Koz, does this cross the redline?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 26, 2022, 05:36:34 pm
Your Welsh Music Prize
I see you didn't mention this
Mike Peters of The Alarm has won the Welsh Music Inspiration Award at this year’s Welsh Music Prize ceremony.


which is nice as he had a serious bout in the hospital recently
looking like back on the road to recovery!
cannot keep that man down
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on October 26, 2022, 05:58:36 pm
Probably the most out-of-nowhere hyped band since The Knack. I have yet to listen to them.

They are not as terrible as my 15 year old says they are, but they're still pretty bad.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on October 27, 2022, 08:22:52 am
The Adwaith (Welsh for Reaction) album is really growing on me, solid solid post-punk with a dash of shoegaze/dream pop going on here.

There it a twitter listening party replay for Bato Mato I need to check out

https://timstwitterlisteningparty.com/pages/replay/feed_1099.html
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on October 27, 2022, 01:01:24 pm
crossed posting to the potato thread, as well potatoes are involved

I stumbled upon a group that is a) almost impossible to search for and b) appear to have no web/social media presences outside of existing on streaming sites.

Was trying to figure out if a power pop band from Spain called Maryland had released a new album or not (recommended listening btw) and a group called  Whatever Happened, Maryland? came up in the search which sparked my curiosity 

Well searching without quotes you get news related results, etc... with quotes all you get what is they are on all the key streaming sites..

so here is where the potatoes com in, one of the 14 tracks on their 14 minute record is called

Give It Up for POTATOES (Tulsa Tulsa Tulsa)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6rswa-aA5A

I've listened to the entire album so you don't have to, but if you want to double their monthly $potify listenership from 4 have at it... I'll just say that this sounds like a bedroom/art school  project that hutch would affectionately call hobo rock...  substances/dares may have been involved..

of course are they truly from Maryland as they do have song called "(Barely Escaped) Ellicott City" or could it be a secret boardie project..

and yes there is an ode to Pretzels as well, the record is called "Lady Cakes" along with numerous singles..
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 27, 2022, 01:17:56 pm

I've listened to the entire album so you don't have to
these sacrifices have been noted, but they are self-inflicted
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on October 27, 2022, 01:24:55 pm

I've listened to the entire album so you don't have to
these sacrifices have been noted, but they are self-inflicted

well you know what they say about curiosity... as i post from the great beyond
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 27, 2022, 01:49:46 pm
as i post from the great beyond
Sorry you died. Hope you get to feeling better (less deader?) soon.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on October 28, 2022, 07:50:40 pm
Sounds promising

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2022/jun/06/lou-reeds-earliest-velvet-underground-demos-unearthed-for-reissue



Did we ever get this?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on October 28, 2022, 08:29:41 pm
Yes there were a bunch of copies at CD Cellar last week
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 28, 2022, 11:04:09 pm
Sounds promising

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2022/jun/06/lou-reeds-earliest-velvet-underground-demos-unearthed-for-reissue



Did we ever get this?
mine just came in the mail, have yet to crack the plastic
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on November 02, 2022, 02:06:43 pm
Should I cross-post these to Smackie?

50 Most Expensive Vinyl Records (https://www.discogs.com/digs/collecting/most-expensive-vinyl-records/?utm_source=Homepage&utm_medium=Discogs&utm_campaign=Collecting_2022_10_26)

50 Most Expensive CDs (https://www.discogs.com/digs/collecting/most-expensive-cds/?utm_source=Homepage&utm_medium=Discogs&utm_campaign=Collecting_2022_10_26)

50 Most Expensive Cassettes (https://www.discogs.com/digs/collecting/most-expensive-cassettes/?utm_source=Homepage&utm_medium=Discogs&utm_campaign=Collecting_2022_10_26)



Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on November 02, 2022, 02:29:01 pm
Well I wish I had Can’s Monster Movie…one of the original 500…was just thinking that last week and lo and behold listening to my $1.99 cd in car right now…fantastic

Bob Dylan’s Freewheeling with withdrawn tracks recently sold for about 150K so I do think that’s the priciest record.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on November 02, 2022, 02:35:49 pm
Should I cross-post these to Smackie?

50 Most Expensive Vinyl Records (https://www.discogs.com/digs/collecting/most-expensive-vinyl-records/?utm_source=Homepage&utm_medium=Discogs&utm_campaign=Collecting_2022_10_26)

50 Most Expensive CDs (https://www.discogs.com/digs/collecting/most-expensive-cds/?utm_source=Homepage&utm_medium=Discogs&utm_campaign=Collecting_2022_10_26)

50 Most Expensive Cassettes (https://www.discogs.com/digs/collecting/most-expensive-cassettes/?utm_source=Homepage&utm_medium=Discogs&utm_campaign=Collecting_2022_10_26)
Fun fact: I have owned one of these items for over 15 years. Astute boardies will pick out what it is very easily.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 02, 2022, 03:42:55 pm
I can't believe someone paid $8k for a Judge record and $6k for a gorilla biscuits one
I bet neither band made that much in their whole career 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 08, 2022, 09:00:50 pm
I believe this to be true

Pavement say it would be “total cringe” if they recorded new music
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on November 09, 2022, 08:48:45 am
I believe this to be true

Pavement say it would be “total cringe” if they recorded new music


I mean, they have such a massive catalog that I suppose it's fine... however the Malkmus/Jicks repertoire is equally impressive.... if this pavement thing is more of a one off, then fine.

However,  if they continue to tour for years to come like forum favorites Ween, they should consider releasing some tuneage.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on November 09, 2022, 08:52:40 am
Yeah I don’t know…..not sure I want to hear it ..I prefer Malkmus and the Jicks to Terror Album
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 10, 2022, 08:11:11 am
https://www.post-gazette.com/ae/music/2022/11/09/warhol-museum-master-tracks-velvet-underground-debut/stories/202211090082

The Andy Warhol Museum announced Wednesday that it had discovered and digitized rare master tapes of the Velvet Underground’s seminal 1967 debut album “The Velvet Underground & Nico” from Verve Records.

The monophonic reel-to-reel ¼-inch tapes feature alternate versions and mixes of songs later issued on the 1967 release.


Ok was more excited than I should have been

“Although an acetate version, which was made from these master tapes, was released for the 45th anniversary of the album, it is of a different sonic quality, given the generation loss inherent in an analog copy,” according to the museum press release
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on November 10, 2022, 08:25:42 am
Do they really even know what they have? Skeptical they do…will just have to wait

Oh and have you heard the acetate cause I haven’t? I find it hard to get into inferior outtakes…
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on November 10, 2022, 09:41:18 am
I feel like there is a new alternate version of that album discovered every three years at this point.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on November 10, 2022, 01:09:34 pm
“Although an acetate version, which was made from these master tapes, was released for the 45th anniversary of the album, it is of a different sonic quality, given the generation loss inherent in an analog copy,” according to the museum press release

so they've found a better quality version of something that has already been released?  hard to get too excited about that.

Do they really even know what they have?

the story says they digitized the tapes - so a few people had to be listening as the tapes were played back and re-recorded digitally.  so, yes, i'd say they're aware of what they've got.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on November 10, 2022, 01:11:12 pm
for kosmo: tap your life savings and build the studio of your dreams!

Daptone Records is selling-off classic analogue studio gear, including the Tascam tape machine used to record Amy Winehouse’s Black to Black (https://www.musicradar.com/news/daptone-records-reverb-sale-amy-winehouse)
“Most of what I know about gear and sounds and recording, I learned at Daptone,” says Mark Ronson
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on November 10, 2022, 04:34:53 pm
was looking up a young (under 20) and i guess very up and coming artist who is playing the equivalent of the black cat in other cities and the tickets were $75 and up...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 11, 2022, 07:20:11 pm
Cringe alert

A contest to see The Moz in concert…with an odd bonus


Morrissey is about to head out on his first US tour in three years, and we're giving one lucky fan the chance to go to the concert of their choice and meet drummer Brendan Buckley.


I’m sure he’s a nice guy but really
https://gleam.io/kzRks/win-morrissey-tickets-and-a-meet-greet-with-drummer-brendan-buckley
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on November 11, 2022, 07:33:57 pm
Cringe alert

A contest to see The Moz in concert…with an odd bonus


Morrissey is about to head out on his first US tour in three years, and we're giving one lucky fan the chance to go to the concert of their choice and meet drummer Brendan Buckley.


I’m sure he’s a nice guy but really
https://gleam.io/kzRks/win-morrissey-tickets-and-a-meet-greet-with-drummer-brendan-buckley

Does Brendan know about this?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 11, 2022, 07:53:07 pm
Cringe alert

A contest to see The Moz in concert…with an odd bonus


Morrissey is about to head out on his first US tour in three years, and we're giving one lucky fan the chance to go to the concert of their choice and meet drummer Brendan Buckley.


I’m sure he’s a nice guy but really
https://gleam.io/kzRks/win-morrissey-tickets-and-a-meet-greet-with-drummer-brendan-buckley

Does Brendan know about this?
Likely as part of the prize is you get to sit behind the kit after sound check

I mean, when I think of morrissey, I always think about the drum solos
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on November 11, 2022, 09:45:27 pm
Cool Cool Cool
City City City
!!!
Wet Wet Wet
Yeah Yeah Yeahs
Tony! Toni! Toné!

The The
Tora Tora
Duran Duran

Pigs Pigs Pigs Pigs Pigs Pigs Pigs


What's missing?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 11, 2022, 09:53:56 pm
Talk talk
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on November 11, 2022, 10:34:10 pm
Quango Quango


(“Love Tempo” is such a great song! Bernard Sumner is a frickin’ genius)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on November 11, 2022, 11:13:24 pm
Buzzard Buzzard Buzzard
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Bagley on November 15, 2022, 04:29:40 pm
Congrats to Baltimore's own Turnstile-  THREE Grammy award nominations!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 15, 2022, 06:16:40 pm
noticed wet leg got 4 noms too
this was an odd one

Best Engineered Album, Non-Classical
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on November 20, 2022, 01:00:10 pm
How do y'all feel about encores?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/arts-entertainment/2022/11/15/bands-not-doing-encores/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Cock Van Der Palm on November 20, 2022, 02:08:08 pm
I can do without them.  Just add them to the end of the regular set and just let people know this is our last song.  No reason to sit around for another 5-10 minutes at the end of a long night.

How do y'all feel about encores?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/arts-entertainment/2022/11/15/bands-not-doing-encores/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on November 20, 2022, 03:15:16 pm
Encores should be earned not automatic. If a band finishes and the crowd is REALLY into it by all means come back out and play an extra song.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 20, 2022, 09:00:37 pm
Encores should be earned not automatic. If a band finishes and the crowd is REALLY into it by all means come back out and play an extra song.
I agree
although I get the band might need a bio break after 90 mins or to just sit down and have drink of water
lot of these artists are in their 70s now

I think it should be a 1 hour set, 10 min break, come out for 20-30 more...then only return if the crowd is going bonkers
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on November 20, 2022, 11:58:20 pm
the thing i can't stand about the forced encore is the need/expectation to clap and cheer for 5-10 minutes until the band comes back out, even though you know full well they'll be coming back out regardless.  it's like a mandatory ritual that isn't always called for.

i forget which show it was, but there was one occasion when the crowd's enthusiasm didn't hold up for the duration of the in-between period.  by the time the band came back out, crowd noise had almost completely died out and they were setting up for the encore in relative silence.  felt so forced and awkward.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on November 21, 2022, 10:19:18 am
Based on tweets from both Ride and The Charlatans a few minutes apart, I'm sensing a co-headlining US and Canada tour announcement coming from them soon.. i could be wrong and they will touring separately, but the timing seems a bit to of a coincidence
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on November 21, 2022, 03:40:40 pm
Go let it
Snow let it
Snow let it
Snow.

https://twitter.com/ThreatNotation/status/1594745767058903046
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on November 21, 2022, 05:32:20 pm
Looks like the Ride/The Charlatans US is pretty much a given…
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on November 21, 2022, 05:40:40 pm
Wow I am there if it comes to DC but where? Smells like Fillmore spirit…
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on November 21, 2022, 06:24:05 pm
Wow I am there if it comes to DC but where? Smells like Fillmore spirit…
Bands probably don’t want the venue taking part of their merch sales, so IMP venues are out.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on November 21, 2022, 06:49:47 pm
Bands probably don’t want the venue taking part of their merch sales

this is standard practice across the industry.  yes, there are a few venues who don't adhere to this practice, but they are few and far between. 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 21, 2022, 06:56:08 pm
Bands probably don’t want the venue taking part of their merch sales

this is standard practice across the industry.  yes, there are a few venues who don't adhere to this practice, but they are few and far between.
I am for certain* that the FFS takes a pound of flesh for every merch sale, so that can’t be the reason

*I am 0% certain
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on November 21, 2022, 07:04:01 pm
When I worked at Warner Theatre -an Live Nation venue- they took 25% on merch.

I am sure FSS is the same.

I find it hard to believe that bands selling shirts that cost them $5 can’t make a profit on a $35 shirt cause 930 takes a cut. It seems overblown to me but I don’t know the ins and outs of the issue.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on November 21, 2022, 07:10:35 pm
Bands probably don’t want the venue taking part of their merch sales

this is standard practice across the industry.  yes, there are a few venues who don't adhere to this practice, but they are few and far between.
Theres a groundswell within the industry of venues pledging to not do this. Perhaps the artist-friendly, pure music Mecca that is 9:30 Club should help lead from the front.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on November 21, 2022, 07:11:59 pm
I think that would be great.

Kind of amusing watching Julian take the piss out of IMP every chance he gets…
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on November 21, 2022, 07:44:50 pm
I think that would be great.

Kind of amusing watching Julian take the piss out of IMP every chance he gets…
Kind of amusing watching you boot lick for a decade plus.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on November 21, 2022, 07:51:14 pm
I think that would be great.

Kind of amusing watching Julian take the piss out of IMP every chance he gets…
Kind of amusing watching you boot lick for a decade plus.

I don’t think that has happened. I am the only one here who has spoken truth to power!

Witness my legendary posts demanding more Latino rock from Seth!! Or my dozens of posts asking Seth to build a bigger venue and saying how booking shows at DAR was unconscionable! Not to mention my long running IMP shows at DAR boycott.

The record is clear.


:)

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 21, 2022, 07:53:42 pm
I think that would be great.

Kind of amusing watching Julian take the piss out of IMP every chance he gets…
Kind of amusing watching you boot lick for a decade plus.
although your Louboutin slobbering of live nation is in no way superior
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on November 21, 2022, 07:57:20 pm
IMP is superior to Live Nation Ticketmaster but it’s not perfect either. I feel equating them as Julian tries to do is a disservice to the truth.

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on November 22, 2022, 12:37:43 am
Theres a groundswell within the industry of venues pledging to not do this. Perhaps the artist-friendly, pure music Mecca that is 9:30 Club should help lead from the front.

getting back to serious matters: that groundswell is only happening in the UK. 
- https://completemusicupdate.com/article/fac-launches-campaign-against-venue-merch-commissions-urges-100-venues-to-sign-up-to-new-directory/ (https://completemusicupdate.com/article/fac-launches-campaign-against-venue-merch-commissions-urges-100-venues-to-sign-up-to-new-directory/)
- https://www.nme.com/news/music/hundreds-of-venues-sign-up-to-not-take-cut-of-artists-merchandise-sales-but-campaigners-want-more-3282810 (https://www.nme.com/news/music/hundreds-of-venues-sign-up-to-not-take-cut-of-artists-merchandise-sales-but-campaigners-want-more-3282810)
- https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/venues-stop-taking-merch-cut/ (https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/venues-stop-taking-merch-cut/)
etc...

bands are clamoring for it on this side of the pond, obvs, and there is the recent launch of #MyMerch (via canada (https://exclaim.ca/music/article/cadence_weapon_launches_mymerch_campaign_to_end_venue_merch_cuts))... but it has not taken off yet here (i.e., no groundswell).  i'm not aware of any north american venues who have changes their cut-of-the-merch practices. 

thus 930 is no better, and no worse, than the rest of the industry here (but that doesn't suit your narrative, so feel free to ignore and continue with your baseless trolling... admittedly it's occasionally entertaining)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on November 23, 2022, 10:17:48 am
This mashup of Oasis's 'Don't Look Back In Anger' and Hall & Oates "Out Of Touch" has received the seal of approval from both Noel and Hall & Oates

https://twitter.com/decobanduk/status/1595107079177768963?s=20&t=vCMWs70D94zIX9FECOWI2w
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on November 23, 2022, 10:58:09 am
Almost forgot about this and it's only available for two more days

One of the world's most enigmatic musicians, David Sylvian shares thoughts and ideas in a specially recorded Audio Diary for the show, his first public dialogue for around fifteen years. Mary Anne will be celebrating his incredible body of work in a special “Spirit of Sylvian” show featuring artists who've influenced him, contemporary musicians he's inspired, his own collaborations and solo work, and music she’d like to play to David.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001d5w7
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Cock Van Der Palm on November 23, 2022, 12:18:41 pm
Thanks for this.  It has been a long difficult 15 years for many of us.

Almost forgot about this and it's only available for two more days

One of the world's most enigmatic musicians, David Sylvian shares thoughts and ideas in a specially recorded Audio Diary for the show, his first public dialogue for around fifteen years. Mary Anne will be celebrating his incredible body of work in a special “Spirit of Sylvian” show featuring artists who've influenced him, contemporary musicians he's inspired, his own collaborations and solo work, and music she’d like to play to David.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001d5w7
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on November 25, 2022, 08:09:10 pm
I mean, wutthafuggahyagonnado?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on November 30, 2022, 10:22:49 am
tis the season of European festival announcements which always have me wishing i live in the uk especially for some of the small festivals even though outdoor festivals aren't the most ideal live situations..  the Primavera Sound festival looks amazing wish I could pull that one off..

anyways this little festival in England is very relevant to my interests

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FizdHMUWAAIqQfQ?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on December 01, 2022, 12:48:36 pm
Paul Heaton and Jacqui Abbott are currently touring in the UK and Jacqui comes down ill and is unable to do a couple shows.  Paul chooses to press on with those shows, but does offer refunds which is a class move.  Of course this means he might end up doing a bunch of Housemartins songs..
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 13, 2022, 05:37:37 pm
this 1979 office party is off the hook!
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/319688444_1098428170846516_4161272243591055185_n.jpg?stp=dst-jpg_p526x296&_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=HmC0q31z6QAAX8vHCB6&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=00_AfCz9RdKDmOTFDYqte6C6U01Rymj1W2uP8w06gMdy1e3OQ&oe=639DF351)



IAN CURTIS at his office Christmas Party in December 1979. The image was 'discovered' in 2020 and was quite grainy - I've had a go at restoring it and improving the colour.
The photograph features staff from the job centre where Ian worked. It was based at South Park Road in Macclesfield, mere yards away from Ian's house at 77 Barton Street. There he worked as Assistant Disablement Resettlement Officer, helping find work for people with special needs.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 15, 2022, 02:41:16 pm
wasn't 100% sure where this should go

WIN CONCERTS FOR A YEAR
 
Get ready for next concert season with Concerts For A Year.*
To enter visit www.livenation.com/budlightcfay


NO PURCHASE NECESSARY. Ends 12/31/22. .

*"Concerts For A Year" awarded in the form of $3,000 in Live Nation e-gift cards


So conceivably you could spend all $3k on one concert for some VIP package, parking and drinks
as long as they don't make me drink bud light seltzer
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on December 15, 2022, 03:03:11 pm
Bands that sound like The Strokes (https://everynoise.com/engenremap-garagerock.html)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on December 16, 2022, 09:15:34 pm
Compilation of rare, high-quality clips of pre-DSOTM Pink Floyd

https://www.metafilter.com/197578/I-think-youre-not-commercial
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 20, 2022, 10:11:30 am
There was a pavement musical?!?!
https://pitchfork.com/news/alex-ross-perry-is-making-a-pavement-movie/

Now they are making a movie?!?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 21, 2022, 04:28:32 pm
Hutch (not that hutch) from the Thermals will be doing a live stream of Weezer's Blue Album acoustic start to finish
https://www.instagram.com/instantanxiety
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on December 22, 2022, 01:01:30 pm
I believe that a “Behind The Music” show on Journey would be biggest yawn ever, well except for the fact the one dude apparently got cutoff from the band’s AMEX for allegedly spending a million dollars on it  :o
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 24, 2022, 10:50:21 am
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/321890987_528851789175530_3858243602230124048_n.jpg?_nc_cat=101&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=cRtdVteV_6QAX8YdOFb&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=00_AfBOit1bRdPvkfPv99nVpUzvn8ILiyygI8uMEPEKNM5JJw&oe=63AC16BE)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 30, 2022, 09:33:48 pm
One hell of function
https://twitter.com/snackeru/status/1608964769155026949
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on December 30, 2022, 10:42:41 pm
Sir Brian May (https://apnews.com/article/entertainment-brian-may-celebrity-london-music-34c0ee68e686fc6f268e357b2cd43626?utm_campaign=TrueAnthem&utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 03, 2023, 08:27:15 pm
Is this the closest we will get for a love and rockets tour

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/story/2023-01-03/a-new-love-rockets-box-set-brings-the-hernandez-bros-lasting-literary-achievement
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on January 05, 2023, 11:11:47 am
With the De La Soul reissues and streaming forthcoming, it's been reviled that they had to back and re-record some of bits for the re-released.  the claim is one won't be able to tell the difference.. I suspect the original CDs are now worth a lot more...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on January 05, 2023, 12:19:30 pm
With the De La Soul reissues and streaming forthcoming, it's been reviled
Freudian typo? ;D
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on January 05, 2023, 12:29:32 pm
Not reviled by moi, but I’m sure someone will take umbrage
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on January 05, 2023, 12:32:56 pm
but I’m sure someone will take umbrage
Well, at least we still have Umbro (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umbro).
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on January 05, 2023, 01:03:49 pm
(https://media.giphy.com/media/TGoOUpulLsCwM11tIh/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on January 05, 2023, 01:07:56 pm
Kate Bush on Masked Singer UK?

At first it seem absurd but I will have to agree it's within her character to do this and based on this clip it does if fact sound like her...

https://twitter.com/imshanereaction/status/1609713649077346305?s=20&t=R7s7AGqBSEHi5PikLBr2bA
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on January 05, 2023, 01:27:34 pm
this clip of The La's doing "Timeless Melody" at the old 9:30 club in 1991 made the rounds on twitter recently...

https://twitter.com/jo_bartlett/status/1605224963996278784?s=20&t=ruPpRnp7erGpH1d9X-QOxA
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on January 05, 2023, 02:04:37 pm
That’s badass
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 06, 2023, 06:20:50 pm
I believe that a “Behind The Music” show on Journey would be biggest yawn ever, well except for the fact the one dude apparently got cutoff from the band’s AMEX for allegedly spending a million dollars on it  :o
the plot thickens and Trump's spiritual advisor is involved~
https://www.politicalflare.com/2023/01/trumps-spiritual-adviser-paula-white-accused-of-improperly-accessing-the-bank-account-of-rock-band-journey
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on January 06, 2023, 06:26:04 pm
With an estimated net worth of $5 million (which is not huge, by any means), it can still be suggested that White-Cain is Trump’s favorite snow jobber.

Sure, $5M isn't huge in Turmp world but it is in the real one.

Also, I wonder if Schon and Cain ever really got along. Schon was one of the band's founders and Cain replaced co-founder Gregg Rolie.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 09, 2023, 10:06:56 am
John Lydon's Public Image Ltd. (PIL) will take part in the competition to represent Ireland at the 2023 edition of Eurovision.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on January 09, 2023, 01:26:56 pm
John Lydon's Public Image Ltd. (PIL) will take part in the competition to represent Ireland at the 2023 edition of Eurovision.

this is really random.. HAWAII
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on January 09, 2023, 01:32:38 pm
John Lydon's Public Image Ltd. (PIL) will take part in the competition to represent Ireland at the 2023 edition of Eurovision.

how/why ireland?  they're english...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on January 09, 2023, 01:36:13 pm
John Lydon's Public Image Ltd. (PIL) will take part in the competition to represent Ireland at the 2023 edition of Eurovision.

how/why ireland?  they're english...

pretty sure it's just Johnny on the track and his parents are Irish...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 09, 2023, 02:17:10 pm
John Lydon's Public Image Ltd. (PIL) will take part in the competition to represent Ireland at the 2023 edition of Eurovision.

how/why ireland?  they're english...

pretty sure it's just Johnny on the track and his parents are Irish...
can confirm..as if the red hair wasn't enough
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: vansmack on January 09, 2023, 03:00:10 pm
Clever way to raise awareness for Alzheimer's....
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 09, 2023, 03:02:30 pm
Clever way to raise awareness for Alzheimer's....
yeah, I missed that totally focusing on the headline
the song Hawaii (https://youtu.be/UXwB0HqZDXg), a love letter to Lydon’s wife, Nora Forster, who lives with Alzheimer’s disease. The group described it as “a pensive, personal yet universal love song that will resonate with many”


he almost sounds like dylan>!?!

Never really been in to Eurovision, but interesting note:
This year’s Eurovision song contest will take place in Liverpool on 13 May. After Ukraine’s Kalush Orchestra won the 2022 competition, organisers concluded that the country could not safely host the 2023 edition and that Britain, whose competitor Sam Ryder placed second, would take on the mantle.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 11, 2023, 12:20:52 am
Pretty damn good robot band, don't smells like, enter sandman and others

onehackerband (https://www.instagram.com/onehackerband/)

Bring on the animatronic chucky cheese guys and it has a real west world kinda feel
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on January 11, 2023, 02:14:50 pm
What BAND had a 10/10 DEBUT ALBUM?

https://twitter.com/ReturnofR/status/1612948274108841986?t=b1LR2QH7wNzRYRZAhHOXJw&s=09
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on January 11, 2023, 06:29:30 pm
this is a defensible list:

The greatest rock concerts in music history (https://www.guitarworld.com/features/the-greatest-rock-concerts-in-music-history)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Cock Van Der Palm on January 11, 2023, 09:55:40 pm
Springsteen should be somewhere on that list. During the Darkness tours.

this is a defensible list:

The greatest rock concerts in music history (https://www.guitarworld.com/features/the-greatest-rock-concerts-in-music-history)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on January 12, 2023, 10:18:40 am
So any reaction to the new Iggy record?  Personally I feel it's a good but not great listen, feels far to polish and overblown to me.  It feels like it's missing some of the swagger and cheek of his earlier records.  Plus, I feel there is no irony when the song "The Regency" which includes the lyric "Fuck The Regency" repeated 23 times was recorded with a bunch of wealthy rockers...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on January 12, 2023, 10:58:12 am
Still waiting for Iggy pop store to send it to me!

Not expecting much…from what I hear it’s just some jam sessions with LA based rockers that worship at the throne of Iggy cut and spliced into a record….at this point it’s all gravy and I pretty much like anything he does…



Spoken word with new order or underworld beats? Why not
French chanson? Sure sign me up
Electronica Trumpet? Check
Reaching for old punk sound? Sign me up
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 12, 2023, 11:05:13 am
Still waiting for Iggy pop store to send it to me!

Not expecting much…from what I hear it’s just some jam sessions with LA based rockers that worship at the throne of Iggy cut and spliced into a record….at this point it’s all gravy and I pretty much like anything he does…



Spoken word with new order or underworld beats? Why not
French chanson? Sure sign me up
Electronica Trumpet? Check
Reaching for old punk sound? Sign me up
A gospel album
Tuvan throat singing
Covers of 80s metal hair bands, done in a lounge style
Ambient with Eno and Byrne
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on January 12, 2023, 11:10:34 am
Ok I hadn’t looked into the origins of the album, but it has much more of a hard rock vibe than punk one…
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on January 12, 2023, 11:11:53 am
]
A gospel album
Tuvan throat singing
Covers of 80s metal hair bands, done in a lounge style
Ambient with Eno and Byrne

Losing My Edge
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 12, 2023, 11:18:34 am
]
A gospel album
Tuvan throat singing
Covers of 80s metal hair bands, done in a lounge style
Ambient with Eno and Byrne

Losing My Edge
what exactly is the style of music from your favorite band that has skulls/antlers/fur for clothing
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on January 12, 2023, 11:22:33 am
Its the nexus between industrial, world, viking and caveman.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: vansmack on January 12, 2023, 02:58:18 pm
this is a defensible list:

I will let you defend "Taylor Hawkins tribute concerts" over say the US Festival, Woodstock, countless Vans/Warped/Lolla Tours, Clash of the Titans, etc....
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on January 12, 2023, 03:52:49 pm
this is a defensible list:

I will let you defend "Taylor Hawkins tribute concerts" over say the US Festival, Woodstock, countless Vans/Warped/Lolla Tours, Clash of the Titans, etc....
Well, you see, the Taylor Hawkins tribute concerts happened recently and those other concerts you listed . . . did not.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 12, 2023, 03:55:44 pm
that Superorganism's show at the blowtel is not listed, makes this list a mockery
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on January 12, 2023, 04:05:53 pm
Why is Pat Dinizio at the Zoo House not listed??!?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on January 12, 2023, 05:04:00 pm
So any reaction to the new Iggy record?  Personally I feel it's a good but not great listen, feels far to polish and overblown to me.  It feels like it's missing some of the swagger and cheek of his earlier records.  Plus, I feel there is no irony when the song "The Regency" which includes the lyric "Fuck The Regency" repeated 23 times was recorded with a bunch of wealthy rockers...

I listened. I like it but don't love it.

That said, I found nothing Polish about it or in it.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on January 12, 2023, 05:33:49 pm
That said, I found nothing Polish about it or in it.

so no love songs to Warsaw, or mentions of pierogi??
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: vansmack on January 12, 2023, 08:36:41 pm
Well, you see, the Taylor Hawkins tribute concerts happened recently and those other concerts you listed . . . did not.

I didn't realize you were unable to click the link at your location, so I'll share it for you:

Roger Waters: The Wall Live (2010–2013)
Alice Cooper: Billion Dollar Babies Tour (1973–1974)
U2: Zoo TV (1992–1993)
Kiss: The Destroyer Tour: The Spirit of ’76 (1976)
Taylor Hawkins tribute concerts (2022)
The Who: Tommy (May–June 1969)
George Harrison and Friends: The Concert for Bangladesh (August 1, 1971)
Ozzy Osbourne: Diary of a Madman Tour (1981–1982)
Metallica: Damaged Justice (1988-1989)
ZZ Top: Worldwide Texas Tour (1976–1978)
The Rolling Stones: Tour of the Americas ’75 (1975)
Live Aid (1985)/Live 8 (2005)

You were saying?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 12, 2023, 10:31:07 pm
I take issue with most of these post 80s tours...as really not being that big of a deal
Roger Waters: The Wall Live (2010–2013)
U2: Zoo TV (1992–1993)
Live 8 (2005)

in Jules defense (ugh that felt dirty just to say) the 80s was close to 35 years ago, so not so recent
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on January 13, 2023, 10:21:30 am
The Coolest Rock Show in Ann Arbor. And Almost Everyone There Is Over 65 (https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/12/style/ann-arbor-geezer-happy-hour.html)

This is both peak Ann Arbor and also relevant to this aging community of rock fans.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 19, 2023, 09:21:49 am
that's some old music
https://www.npr.org/2009/06/24/105823127/a-little-flute-music-to-warm-the-cave
(article is different than text below)

Jim Collier
August 15, 2020  ·
'Roughly forty-three thousand years ago a young cave bear died in the rolling hills on the northwest border of modern-day Slovenia. A thousand miles away and a thousand years later, a mammoth died in the forests above the river Blau near the southern edge of modern-day Germany. Within a few years of the mammoth's demise, a griffon vulture also perished in the same vicinity. Five thousand years after that a swan and another mammoth died nearby.

We know almost nothing about how these animals met their deaths. They may have been hunted by Neanderthals or modern humans. They may have died of natural causes or been killed by other predators. Like almost every creature from the Paleolithic era the stories behind their lives and deaths are a mystery to us, lost to the un-reconstructible past.

But these different creatures, lost across time and space, did share one remarkable posthumous fate. After their flesh had been consumed by carnivores or bacteria, a bone from each of their skeletons was meticulously crafted by human hands into a flute.

Bone flutes are among the oldest known artifacts of human technological ingenuity. The Slovenian and German flutes date back to the very origins of art. The caves where some of them were found also featured drawings of animals and human forms on their walls, suggesting the tantalizing possibility that our ancestors gathered in the fire lit caverns to watch images flicker on the stone walls, accompanied by music.

But musical technology is likely far older than the Paleolithic. The Slovenian and German flutes survived because they were made of bone but many of the indigenous tribes in modern times construct flutes and drums out of reeds and animal skins, materials unlikely to survive tens of thousands of years.

Many archaeologists believe that our ancestors have been building drums for at least a hundred thousand years, making musical technology almost as old as technology designed for hunting or temperature regulation. This chronology is one of the great puzzles of early human history.

It seems to be jumping more than a few levels in the hierarchy of needs to go directly from spearheads and clothing to the invention of wind instruments. Eons before early humans started to imagine writing or agriculture they were crafting tools for making music. This seems particularly puzzling because music is the most abstract of the arts. Paintings represent the inhabitants of the world that our eyes actually perceive: animals, plants, landscapes and other people.

Architecture gives us shelter. Stories follow the arc of events that make up a human life. But music has no obvious referent beyond a vague association with the chirps and trills of birdsong. No one likes a hit record because it sounds like the natural world. We like music because it sounds *different* from the unstructured noise of the natural world. And what sounds like music is much closer to the abstracted symmetries of math than any experience a hunter-gatherer would have had a hundred thousand years ago.

A brief lesson in the physics of sound should help underscore the strangeness of the archaeological record here. Some of the bone flutes recovered from Paleolithic cave sites are intact enough that they can be played, and in many cases researchers have found that the finger holes carved into the bones are spaced in such a way that they can produce musical intervals that we now call perfect fourths and fifths.

In the terms of Western music, these would be F and G in the key of C. Fourths and fifths not only make up the harmonic backbone of almost every popular song in the modern canon, they are also some of the most ubiquitous intervals in the world’s many musical systems. Though some ancient tonal systems, like Balinese gamelan music, evolved without fourths and fifths, only the octave is more common. Musicologists now understand the physics behind these intervals and why they seem to trigger such an interesting response in the human ear.

An octave, two notes exactly twelve steps apart from each other on a piano keyboard, exhibits a precise 2:1 ratio in the wave forms it produces. If you play a high C on a guitar, the string will vibrate exactly two times for every single vibration the low C string generates. That synchronization, which also occurs with the harmonics or overtones that give an instrument its timbre, creates a vivid impression of consonance in the ear, the sound of those two wave forms snapping into alignment every other cycle.

The perfect fourth and fifth have comparably even ratios: a fourth is 4:3, while a fifth is 3:2. If you play a C and G note together, the higher G string will vibrate three times for every two vibrations of the C. By contrast, a C and F# played together create the most dissonant interval in the Western scale: the notorious tri-tone or ‘devil’s interval, with a ratio of 43:32.

The existence of these ratios has been known since the days of ancient Greece. The tuning system that features them is often called Pythagorean tuning after the Greek mathematician who, legend has it, first identified them. Today the average seventh grader knows Pythagoras for his triangles, but his ratios are the cornerstone of every pop song on Spotify.

The study of musical ratios marked one of the very first moments in the history of knowledge where mathematical descriptions productively explained natural phenomenon. In fact, the success of these mathematical explanations of music triggered a two-thousand year pursuit of similar cosmological ratios in the movements of the sun and planets in the sky; the famous ‘music of the spheres’ that inspired Kepler and so many others.

Wave forms, integer ratios, overtones …

None of these concepts were available to our ancestors in the Upper Paleolithic. And yet, for some bizarre reason they went to great lengths to build tools that could conjure these mathematical patterns out of the simple act of exhaling. Put yourself in that Slovenian cave forty thousand years ago. You have mastered fire, built simple tools for hunting, learned how to craft garments from animal skins to keep yourself warm in the winter.

An entire universe of further innovation lies in front of you. What would you choose to invent next? It seems preposterous that you would turn to crafting a tool that created vibrations in air molecules that synchronized at a perfect 3:2 ratio when played together. Yet that is exactly what our ancestors did.’

Wonderland: How Play Made the Modern World ~ Steven Johnson
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on January 23, 2023, 10:06:42 am
One primarily for the guitar gearheads, but worthy of a watch for the casual listener...

Stumbled upon a electroacoustic harpist named Emily Hopkins who runs her harp which has pickups inside it through guitar effects pedals, i.e. wha wha, distortion the lot...

anyways Emily now gets pedals all the time to evaluate including recently a Talk Box which is that effect with the tube made famous by Zapp, Frampton, 

This video is a fun watch because when she unboxes the Talk Box she has no idea what to make of it

https://youtu.be/U4gTTFNgUkY

also worth the watch another recent one involving putting a whammy bar on her harp

https://youtu.be/dPhGVsh2GRU
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on January 23, 2023, 10:42:18 am
of course they sent Emily a prototype of the infamous Fart Pedal and because I'm a child I'm in tears right now due to laughter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vdm5qWHHzNg
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on January 23, 2023, 11:03:12 am
Down the fart pedal rabbit hole...

Frat Pedal with Reverb performed by Swedish Metal guitartist..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuhV40ciWHw

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on January 23, 2023, 01:19:08 pm
One primarily for the guitar gearheads, but worthy of a watch for the casual listener...

Stumbled upon a electroacoustic harpist named Emily Hopkins who runs her harp which has pickups inside it through guitar effects pedals, i.e. wha wha, distortion the lot...

anyways Emily now gets pedals all the time to evaluate including recently a Talk Box which is that effect with the tube made famous by Zapp, Frampton, 

This video is a fun watch because when she unboxes the Talk Box she has no idea what to make of it

https://youtu.be/U4gTTFNgUkY

also worth the watch another recent one involving putting a whammy bar on her harp

https://youtu.be/dPhGVsh2GRU

I'll definitely check these out later.

I'm pretty sure Zapp used a vocoder instead of a talkbox. Or did Roger used both?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on January 23, 2023, 01:29:44 pm
One primarily for the guitar gearheads, but worthy of a watch for the casual listener...

Stumbled upon a electroacoustic harpist named Emily Hopkins who runs her harp which has pickups inside it through guitar effects pedals, i.e. wha wha, distortion the lot...

anyways Emily now gets pedals all the time to evaluate including recently a Talk Box which is that effect with the tube made famous by Zapp, Frampton, 

This video is a fun watch because when she unboxes the Talk Box she has no idea what to make of it

https://youtu.be/U4gTTFNgUkY

also worth the watch another recent one involving putting a whammy bar on her harp

https://youtu.be/dPhGVsh2GRU

I'll definitely check these out later.

I'm pretty sure Zapp used a vocoder instead of a talkbox. Or did Roger used both?

Based on this Roger/Zapp was running his synth through a voice box, also a seriously fun interview..

https://youtu.be/L_CBZkd2tGE
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on January 23, 2023, 06:20:21 pm
One primarily for the guitar gearheads, but worthy of a watch for the casual listener...

Stumbled upon a electroacoustic harpist named Emily Hopkins who runs her harp which has pickups inside it through guitar effects pedals, i.e. wha wha, distortion the lot...

anyways Emily now gets pedals all the time to evaluate including recently a Talk Box which is that effect with the tube made famous by Zapp, Frampton, 

This video is a fun watch because when she unboxes the Talk Box she has no idea what to make of it

https://youtu.be/U4gTTFNgUkY

also worth the watch another recent one involving putting a whammy bar on her harp

https://youtu.be/dPhGVsh2GRU

I'll definitely check these out later.

I'm pretty sure Zapp used a vocoder instead of a talkbox. Or did Roger used both?

Based on this Roger/Zapp was running his synth through a voice box, also a seriously fun interview..

https://youtu.be/L_CBZkd2tGE

Definitely proved me wrong. I guess I was thrown by him using it through a synth instead of guitar.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on January 24, 2023, 03:40:47 pm
Beatle Bob's streak comes to an end. The Cal Ripken of concert going had Lou Gehrig's disease.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid02btrsuHX2z3pgvj7vtmamHPKWLLyh9j9sRtoDQBUECrviZ6ZVjErWvqkLay93ePtxl&id=100087994761915&mibextid=Nif5oz
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 24, 2023, 05:23:19 pm
damn, 9000+ shows.  That's an impressive legacy
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on January 24, 2023, 05:25:13 pm
damn, 9000+ shows.  That's an impressive legacy
The word “legacy” is doing some heavy lifting here.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 24, 2023, 05:38:01 pm
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/325791229_885914382755743_7689625256153875373_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=a26aad&_nc_ohc=JnOWh5VKZvEAX9qk2uB&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=00_AfBEFh0-KD9LDXQamEyN44NxTtDQVq870J8b2NlVSXWUDg&oe=63D51CF0)

how's that
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on January 24, 2023, 06:45:40 pm
(https://www.bing.com/images/blob?bcid=rGitSD.XIyoFWi7B3r4AE3wYwNuQ.....7M)

link to image is broken.  appears that the URL is incomplete - note the ellipses in it: www.bing.com/images/blob?bcid=rGitSD.XIyoFWi7B3r4AE3wYwNuQ.....7M (http://www.bing.com/images/blob?bcid=rGitSD.XIyoFWi7B3r4AE3wYwNuQ.....7M)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on January 25, 2023, 10:05:36 am
The world's greatest stereo system is inside a Virginia home (https://www.wtvr.com/i-have-a-story/worlds-greatest-stereo-system-virginia)

Hutch, I have found your new best friend.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on January 25, 2023, 01:41:19 pm
The world's greatest stereo system is inside a Virginia home (https://www.wtvr.com/i-have-a-story/worlds-greatest-stereo-system-virginia)

Hutch, I have found your new best friend.

I bet the cracks, pops and scratches on his vinyl collection sound amazing.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on January 25, 2023, 03:05:38 pm
The world's greatest stereo system is inside a Virginia home (https://www.wtvr.com/i-have-a-story/worlds-greatest-stereo-system-virginia)

Hutch, I have found your new best friend.

I bet the cracks, pops and scratches on his vinyl collection sound amazing.

POTW!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on January 27, 2023, 04:16:23 pm
America at the Crossroads: The GUITAR and a Changing Nation

The new exhibition, America at the Crossroads: The GUITAR and a Changing Nation looks at America’s evolution through the lens of its most popular instrument. The exhibit displays forty instruments that serve as touchpoints to connect visitors with significant moments in America’s history and culture—from the earliest Spanish invasion to the nation’s modern status as a global superpower. The artifacts are supplemented with video, photographs, and illustrations that depict important events, artists, and instruments of the last century. This touring exhibition from the National GUITAR Museum is making its national debut at the Gerald R. Ford Presidential Museum.

January 27, 2023 - May 28, 2023

I understand they have a signed "Lucille" and a Gibson Harp Guitar.


Other tour stops:

Museum Of Science & History / Memphis, TN: June 10 – October 23, 2023
Mississippi Arts + Entertainment Experience / Meridian, MS: February – April 2024
The California Museum / Sacramento, CA: May – September 2024
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on January 27, 2023, 04:18:36 pm
Favorite instrument! The favorite instrument is a computer….
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Bagley on February 02, 2023, 12:47:31 pm
Open Mind reincarnated as the Gizzard Lizards?

Groovy video attached
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-Hdmm304Uw&ab_channel=marmalade75
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 05, 2023, 08:32:38 am
John Lydon's Public Image Ltd. (PIL) will take part in the competition to represent Ireland at the 2023 edition of Eurovision.
Public Image Ltd. finished in fourth place.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 09, 2023, 09:10:51 pm
I'm going to say right now, the 80s had an astonishing amount of sax solos...that you probably remember well
then it just kind of fell off a cliff after that

Can you remember a sax solo in the last 30 years??

the 80s, I bet you could name 10 right now and would be shocked at the 20 or more you forgot
https://twitter.com/chbooksdc/status/1623737183721996288

80s were truly peak sax
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on February 09, 2023, 09:50:44 pm
For sure…it was a nice throwback to the early roots of rock and roll

The piano and sax were critical in early rock and roll but fell away when Chuck Berry mainstreamed the guitar…some say he took Johnnie Johnson’s piano licks and applied them to the guitar

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 09, 2023, 10:10:21 pm
This track by Bosq has a wicked baritone sax solo

https://youtu.be/kxUhH6hVsE8
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 09, 2023, 10:22:06 pm
More baritone sax solo madness

Breakdown Brass

https://youtu.be/Ut88N_8w2Qo
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 10, 2023, 11:54:39 am
I think the groups Parcels and Porches should go on tour together.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on February 10, 2023, 12:02:41 pm
I think the groups Parcels and Porches should go on tour together.

"the porch bomb tour"
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 10, 2023, 12:29:19 pm
I think the groups Parcels and Porches should go on tour together.
Parcels leaves halfway through to open for a larger band and Porches virally complains that their opener was stolen. Cops do nothing.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on February 10, 2023, 07:18:39 pm
I think the groups Parcels and Porches should go on tour together.
Parcels leaves halfway through to open for a larger band and Porches virally complains that their opener was stolen. Cops do nothing.

That larger band? The Police.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on February 10, 2023, 07:34:00 pm
TIL about the 1942-1943 ban on recording musicians, resulting in some really awkward music initially, then the emergence of BeBop and Jazz.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 11, 2023, 10:12:06 am
Lee Mavers is finally doing some new recordings  ;D

https://www.facebook.com/100083364609950/posts/pfbid0wfaTpvr6c6reAPL4N2QDv7GiRS5kPAF4cMqXefyjJ6NPXQMnJsVRrJmvHyGPdMb9l/?mibextid=cr9u03



Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on February 11, 2023, 07:30:35 pm
Top 10 bands:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CoTTDxYt1pZ/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on February 11, 2023, 08:31:31 pm
Top 10 bands:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CoTTDxYt1pZ/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=


Music is over. The winner: Taylor Swift
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on February 14, 2023, 10:36:54 am
Top 10 bands:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CoTTDxYt1pZ/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=


Music is over. The winner: Taylor Swift

Incorrect. (https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisettevoytko/2023/02/13/the-worlds-top-10-highest-paid-entertainers-of-2022/?sh=1b16e6c629a3) The top 5 musicians in 2022 were:

1. Genesis
2. Sting
3. Rolling Stones
4.Taylor Swift
5. Bad Bunny
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 14, 2023, 11:15:11 am
Soemwhere over Super Bowl weekend I learned Rihanna is worth more than Beyonce and Taylor COMBINED. Methinks Swifty needs to get herself a makeup line.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 22, 2023, 02:27:53 pm
interesting

A new book on Mark Lanegan reveals he co-wrote Nirvana's stark masterpiece "Something in the Way," but went uncredited.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Starsky on February 22, 2023, 02:52:26 pm
interesting

A new book on Mark Lanegan reveals he co-wrote Nirvana's stark masterpiece "Something in the Way," but went uncredited.


I could see that….

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 22, 2023, 02:53:52 pm
masterpiece
This word is doing some HEAVY lifting here.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 24, 2023, 01:31:12 pm
Can someone take the plunge and listen to Cigarettes After Sex?  The description of the band on Spotify broke me...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: gavroche on February 24, 2023, 02:30:55 pm
Can someone take the plunge and listen to Cigarettes After Sex?  The description of the band on Spotify broke me...

They opened for Nick Cave at the Anthem sometime pre-covid.  I was bored, but not offended. 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 24, 2023, 02:37:10 pm
I prefer the reverse: to be offended, but not bored.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on February 24, 2023, 02:59:43 pm
I bought a ticket for night one without much preparation or knowledge.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 24, 2023, 03:16:19 pm
I’m sure cigarettes before sex are alright but this makes my head hurt

The music of Cigarettes After Sex invokes not only the powerful feelings of euphoria inherent in the band’s name itself, but somehow manages to recreate emotions found only in the most romantic of movies; immersive, achingly nostalgic, thoroughly transporting, and intensely visual.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on February 24, 2023, 03:39:11 pm
I was not prepared for that.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 24, 2023, 04:05:39 pm
I’m sure cigarettes before sex are alright but this makes my head hurt

The music of Cigarettes After Sex invokes not only the powerful feelings of euphoria inherent in the band’s name itself, but somehow manages to recreate emotions found only in the most romantic of movies; immersive, achingly nostalgic, thoroughly transporting, and intensely visual.
Whoever wrote this has jacked off while watching Breathless, I guarantee.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hutch on February 25, 2023, 05:45:48 pm
My two favorite guitarists - both pretty much retired now- together in the studio.


I like that but man do they look old…

https://www.pulse-and-spirit.com/david-gilmour/david-gilmour-und-mark-knopfler-im-studio/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Cock Van Der Palm on February 26, 2023, 10:27:47 pm
Shit.  What happened to Starsky?

My two favorite guitarists - both pretty much retired now- together in the studio.


I like that but man do they look old…

https://www.pulse-and-spirit.com/david-gilmour/david-gilmour-und-mark-knopfler-im-studio/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hutch on February 26, 2023, 10:37:47 pm


It just never really gelled with him…he was never accepted around here. People kept calling him Hutch, he freaked, found me in retirement and it wasn’t pretty. He yelled at me Seth would see him at Anthem and call him “Hutch” when he was out there working tickets- look he blew through his savings and had to take a job/ and he just couldn’t take it anymore. He tried to kill me and it was kill or be killed. Swear.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on February 26, 2023, 10:49:10 pm
Wouldn't have recognized Knopfler.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hutch on February 26, 2023, 11:09:37 pm
The crazy thing is Knopfler is 73 and Gilmour is 76. People don’t realize Knopfler was older when he made it…most people would think gilmour made it in the 60s and Knopfler is from the 80s. But they are contemporaries.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 26, 2023, 11:56:29 pm


It just never really gelled with him…he was never accepted around here. People kept calling him Hutch, he freaked, found me in retirement and it wasn’t pretty. He yelled at me Seth would see him at Anthem and call him “Hutch” when he was out there working tickets- look he blew through his savings and had to take a job/ and he just couldn’t take it anymore. He tried to kill me and it was kill or be killed. Swear.
Really think you need to keep both accounts active. Over time, slowly develop different personalities and posting styles for each.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on February 27, 2023, 08:54:26 am
Really think you need to keep both accounts active. Over time, slowly develop different personalities and posting styles for each.

Agreed. We need to know what each of you is listening to!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 27, 2023, 09:49:17 am
Really think you need to keep both accounts active. Over time, slowly develop different personalities and posting styles for each.

Agreed. We need to know what each of you is listening to!
They should banter about it back and forth like a buddy-cop comedy, but about two guys listening to vinyl records.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 28, 2023, 08:36:01 pm
(https://scontent-iad3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/332598142_1925964977738416_890822583259271291_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=hH2QRsIKHKMAX9U2LXu&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-2.xx&oh=00_AfCN7x2-LDsBvlCmpUJyOPHo99-nf0EsLPZXge2jaWO9yA&oe=640369CD)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 03, 2023, 05:59:17 pm
Epic thread about the origins of both De La Soul and “The Magic Number”

https://twitter.com/thewrongtom/status/1631596884748824579?s=46&t=tEI6L_3IZhAczTAh5AtXcg
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 03, 2023, 07:07:57 pm
Epic thread about the origins of both De La Soul and “The Magic Number”

https://twitter.com/thewrongtom/status/1631596884748824579?s=46&t=tEI6L_3IZhAczTAh5AtXcg
nice
that I got to hear Stet's All that Jazz made this thread worth the price of admision
https://youtu.be/2kdQ4soLcac

good stuff on guys (delaS) I grew up probably lived 10 miles away from (knew a bunch of wrestlers and skaters from Amityville, no connection to the rap communinty sadly)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on March 06, 2023, 05:20:22 pm
Cool Cool Cool
City City City
!!!
Wet Wet Wet
Yeah Yeah Yeahs
Tony! Toni! Toné!

The The
Tora Tora
Duran Duran

Pigs Pigs Pigs Pigs Pigs Pigs Pigs


What's missing?


Tapes 'n Tapes
Fly! Fly! Fly! Fly! Fly!
Xiu Xiu
Giraffes? Giraffes!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 07, 2023, 08:33:44 am
The viagra boys just got Nominated for a Swedish grammy!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 07, 2023, 10:37:43 am
I suspect this is Justin Tonation level banter, but it is about "Blue Monday" so interest may vary. 


Why Blue Monday did my head in for 34 years
They're not triplets. They're dotted quavers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5JQ6ymeGdg

the tweet

Blue Monday is 40 years old today, so it's appropriate to repost my excruciating musical analysis of the "tss-tss-tss-tss" which confused me for 34 of those 40 years, until I SAW THE LIGHT IN THE BACK OF A CAB. (TLDW: they're dotted quavers, not triplets)

https://twitter.com/rhodri/status/1633051687924498434?s=20

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hutch on March 07, 2023, 10:55:47 am
The ending of Dry the rain by Beta Band is very similar to the ending of Primal Scream’s Loaded
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on March 07, 2023, 01:54:37 pm
They're not triplets. They're dotted quavers.

<head explodes>
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 09, 2023, 06:51:12 pm
So if one sees any used De La Soul CDs for sale, I guess snap them up as there are reports of samples missing, etc. on what’s streaming and presumably on the vinyl reissues.  Most notably missing is an Eddie Murphy sample from The Magic Number
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hutch on March 09, 2023, 06:56:11 pm
That’s lame but it’s such a sample heavy album I can’t say I am surprised.

Would suck to buy the reissue and notice missing samples
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 09, 2023, 09:59:54 pm
I have no idea what samples are missing from their records, I’m sure someone will figure it out… but they did have to re-record some of the samples

Interesting thread here on the issue

https://twitter.com/clppng/status/1633574417405190144?s=46&t=81bsTFbar0Jl_mHBl9WnuA

The tidbit about a Jimi Hendrix sample in a Fishbone is fascinating

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on March 27, 2023, 04:11:22 pm
Cool Cool Cool
City City City
!!!
Wet Wet Wet
Yeah Yeah Yeahs
Tony! Toni! Toné!

The The
Tora Tora
Duran Duran

Pigs Pigs Pigs Pigs Pigs Pigs Pigs


What's missing?


Nyam Nyam
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on April 04, 2023, 10:16:39 am
(https://i.ibb.co/3k7msLN/Screenshot-2023-04-04-at-10-14-13-AM.png) (https://twitter.com/WholesomeMeme/status/1643255286533177345)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 04, 2023, 12:26:17 pm
Adrian Belew
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/339736793_154087083962813_6269823526579122276_n.jpg?stp=cp6_dst-jpg&_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=UVIfDNCTz3QAX8oLN1Y&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=00_AfDx9Hy7ad1tw9M-6KKCjvKLFfGlNsXvL08kloYaoGDuBw&oe=6430BE62)
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in case you don't get this joke, here's the story:
In 1978 I did my first tour of Europe as "stunt" guitarist and singer for Frank Zappa's band. The night we played in Cologne, Germany unbeknownst to me Brian Eno was in the audience. Brian knew David Bowie was looking for a new guitarist for his upcoming tour. He called David after seeing our show and told David he should come see the guitarist for Frank's band.
The next night we performed in Berlin. There was a part of the show where Frank took an extended guitar solo and most of the band members, including myself, left the stage for a few minutes. As I walked to the back of the stage I looked over at the monitor mixing board and saw David Bowie and Iggy Pop standing there.
Wow! I couldn't believe it!
So I walked over to David Bowie, shook his hand and said, "I love what you've done, thank you for all the music". And he said, "Great, how would you like to be in my band?" I motioned back towards Frank and said, "Well, I'm kind of playing with that guy." David laughed and said, "Yes, I know, but when Frank's tour ends my tour starts two weeks later. Shall we talk about it over dinner?"
David said he would meet me back at our hotel and sure enough when I arrived back at the hotel David Bowie and his assistant Coco Schwab were sitting on a couch in the lobby. As I walked past them they whispered to me, "Get into the elevator, go up to your room, come back down in a few minutes, and meet us outside. We have a car waiting."
It was like something out of a spy film.
When I came back down and went outside there was a black limousine waiting. The driver opened the door and I got in the back with David and Coco. David immediately launched into all this plans for his upcoming tour, the songs we would play, the staging, and so on, and how much he loved my guitar playing! It was so exciting! He said they were taking me to one of his favorite restaurants in Berlin.
How many restaurants are there in Berlin? 25,000?
We arrived at the restaurant, went in the front door, and who should be sitting at the very first table but Frank Zappa and the rest of the band! So the three of us sat down with Frank and the band. David, trying to be cordial, motioned to me and said, "Quite a guitar player you have here Frank." 
And Frank said, "F••• you Captain Tom."
(note: Frank had demoted David from Major Tom to Captain Tom.)
David persisted, "Oh come on now Frank, surely we can be gentleman about this?"
Frank said, "F••• you Captain Tom."
By this point I was paralyzed. David said, "So you really have nothing to say?" Frank said,  "F••• you Captain Tom."
David and Coco and I got up and went back out the front door. Getting in the limo David said in his wonderfully British way, "I thought that went rather well!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hutch on April 05, 2023, 03:33:40 pm
The Cure’s “Forever” is one of the great lost tracks. Nine minute live version on the Faith deluxe reissue.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 05, 2023, 10:02:59 pm
Paul tells ace “fuck you”
https://consequence.net/2023/04/ace-frehley-paul-stanley-response-f-you/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on April 09, 2023, 11:04:29 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/BhlQePT.jpeg) (https://i.imgur.com/BhlQePT.jpeg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on April 09, 2023, 11:06:02 pm
I would eat that.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on April 12, 2023, 02:12:24 pm
Mario, Mariah, Madonna added to National Recording Registry (https://wtop.com/entertainment/2023/04/mario-mariah-madonna-added-to-national-recording-registry/)

Complete list (https://www.loc.gov/programs/national-recording-preservation-board/recording-registry/complete-national-recording-registry-listing/)

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hutch on April 12, 2023, 02:27:04 pm
Nice! Super Mario Bros. Theme
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on April 15, 2023, 01:39:41 pm
No really a celebrity so…

Neil Hagerty primarily known from Royal Trux

Lifted from Wikipedia

On April 14, 2023 Hagerty was arrested in Denver, Colorado after allegedly assaulting three police officers who had been called to the scene for a welfare check

The story/mugshot

https://www.cbsnews.com/colorado/news/3-denver-police-officers-injured-suspect-neil-hagerty-arrested/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on April 17, 2023, 03:20:14 pm
EpiQ

(https://preview.redd.it/cwdhyclehbua1.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&v=enabled&s=f4db1fa1b42169a21ade6b751d2511d364593bba)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hutch on April 17, 2023, 03:46:49 pm
Wow Yada

Imagine being there…your head would explode!!!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on April 17, 2023, 04:09:06 pm
Am I supposed to recognize anyone in that photo other than the Phish dude in the center?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on April 17, 2023, 04:41:32 pm
Wow Yada

Imagine being there…your head would explode!!!

can confirm
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on April 17, 2023, 04:41:51 pm
Am I supposed to recognize anyone in that photo other than the Phish dude in the center?

and you call yourself a Pavement fan!

Mr. Stephen Malkmus' drummer is the drummer from Guerilla Toss, who is a Phish fan... Guerilla Toss's bass player dates one of Trey Anastasio's daughters. Phish played in Seattle the other night, they all attended.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 17, 2023, 06:38:15 pm
Am I supposed to recognize anyone in that photo other than the Phish dude in the center?
Guerilla Toss
and to think I thought you were a guerilla toss fan
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on April 17, 2023, 06:44:02 pm
Top 100 Classic Rock Artists (https://ultimateclassicrock.com/top-classic-rock-artists/)

(https://townsquare.media/site/295/files/2016/06/zztop.jpg?w=980&q=75)

The ranking is bullshit, of course. The fun is scrolling slowly and trying to guess the artist before their name appears.

Like, who the hell are these guyzz?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hutch on April 17, 2023, 06:46:23 pm
ZZ
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on April 17, 2023, 07:51:09 pm
Am I supposed to recognize anyone in that photo other than the Phish dude in the center?

and you call yourself a Pavement fan!
Do I!?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on April 17, 2023, 08:21:05 pm
Don't you?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 19, 2023, 09:33:54 am
I assume in JA the week of the show all school/work is canceled


A superintendent in Florida says missing school to attend Taylor Swift's concert is not an excused absence: "I understand I am the Anti-Hero here."
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on April 22, 2023, 05:26:03 pm
Trying to watch the video of Nile Rodgers playing with Blondie and  :o
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on April 24, 2023, 07:38:34 am
Most META song ever?

Cliff Hillis - Oh, Dan Bern (feat. Dan Bern)


https://cliffhillis.bandcamp.com/track/oh-dan-bern-feat-dan-bern
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on April 24, 2023, 11:07:02 am
Watched an interesting documentary on a UK Soul/Disco group called The Real Thing who in 1976 had a huge chart topping single with "You to Me Are Everything" they had many firsts in the UK at time.  Anyways, one of the reasons it never took off in the US beyond being a minor hiy, because even in 1976 US artists were still covering UK songs and in this case it was a horrible version by Frankie Vallie that help sink it.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on April 28, 2023, 10:34:22 am
What murder song do you think he was listening to?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/teen-charged-intentionally-running-70-year-old-listening-song-murder-p-rcna81781
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on April 28, 2023, 11:09:00 am
What murder song do you think he was listening to?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/teen-charged-intentionally-running-70-year-old-listening-song-murder-p-rcna81781

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjexC3phymM
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on April 28, 2023, 11:46:18 am
Straight from the cowpunk Wiki:

Cowpunk (or country punk) is a subgenre of punk rock that began in the United Kingdom and Southern California in the late 1970s and early 1980s. It combines punk rock or new wave with country, folk, and blues in its sound, lyrical subject matter, attitude, and style. Examples include Social Distortion, The Gun Club, The Long Ryders, Dash Rip Rock, Violent Femmes, The Blasters, Mojo Nixon, Meat Puppets, The Beat Farmers, Rubber Rodeo, Rank and File, and Jason and the Scorchers. Many of the musicians in this scene subsequently became associated with alternative country, roots rock or Americana.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hutch on April 28, 2023, 11:50:14 am
The Femmes are cowpunk? Okaaaaaay
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on April 28, 2023, 12:17:23 pm
The Femmes are cowpunk? Okaaaaaay

I'm not sure. But they are Exhibit A for bands whose sound and lyrics didn't age well for me.

At one time, I listened to most of the artists on that list. I still have the CD's, but I never listen to any of them  (in part because my wife wouldn't put up with me playing it, but also in part to I'm just not into that any more.)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on April 28, 2023, 12:26:49 pm
The Femmes are cowpunk? Okaaaaaay
The Meat Puppets were the more WTF entry for me.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on April 28, 2023, 12:45:35 pm
The Femmes are cowpunk? Okaaaaaay
The Meat Puppets were the more WTF entry for me.

From the Meat Puppets Wiki:

 Meat Puppets II turned the band into one of the leading bands on SST Records, and along with the Violent Femmes, the Gun Club and others, helped establish the genre called "cow punk".
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on April 28, 2023, 12:50:05 pm
The Femmes are cowpunk? Okaaaaaay
The Meat Puppets were the more WTF entry for me.

From the Meat Puppets Wiki:

 Meat Puppets II turned the band into one of the leading bands on SST Records, and along with the Violent Femmes, the Gun Club and others, helped establish the genre called "cow punk".
To be fair, I am more familiar with their 90s output. (I don’t think I’ve ever heard their stuff from the 80s.) So perhaps there was a shift in their sound, but none of the 90s stuff made me think cowpunk.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Bagley on April 28, 2023, 01:05:58 pm
These guys fit the bill and brought it every show-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eyv6TWeJu0Y&ab_channel=RecordPusherDenmark
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hutch on April 28, 2023, 02:29:44 pm
Yeah….I like them
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: twangirl on April 29, 2023, 10:57:08 pm
I'd put X on that list
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on April 30, 2023, 07:45:25 am
We were away at the time, but once again the bass from the project GLOW festival at RFK stadium reached our humble city 9 or so miles away, sparking outrage on a local facebook group and apparently had cops out looking for the source locally

Same weather conditions as last year apparently.. must have again something much louder closer in
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 03, 2023, 11:55:34 am
Rock & Roll Hall of Fame inductees for 2023:
Kate Bush
Sheryl Crow
Missy Elliott
George Michael
Willie Nelson
Rage Against The Machine
The Spinners
DJ Kool Herc
Link Wray
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hutch on May 03, 2023, 12:00:25 pm
Beyond ridiculous that joy division/ new order didn’t get in!

RATM! Please.


Nice to see DJ Kool Herc
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on May 03, 2023, 12:01:55 pm
Rock & Roll Hall of Fame inductees for 2023:
Kate Bush
Sheryl Crow
Missy Elliott
George Michael
Willie Nelson
Rage Against The Machine
The Spinners
DJ Kool Herc
Link Wray

The Warren Zevon fans are not going to be happy.

And how does RATM get in but Iron Maiden and Soundgarden don't?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hutch on May 03, 2023, 01:21:27 pm
I have some disagreements with this list


https://www.altpress.com/the-cure-albums-ranked/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on May 03, 2023, 02:09:36 pm
Rock & Roll Hall of Fame inductees for 2023:
Kate Bush
Sheryl Crow
Missy Elliott
George Michael
Willie Nelson
Rage Against The Machine
The Spinners
DJ Kool Herc
Link Wray

The Warren Zevon fans are not going to be happy.

And how does RATM get in but Iron Maiden and Soundgarden don't?

Surprised about Zevon but not Crow. She's been an industry insider for decades.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hutch on May 03, 2023, 02:49:56 pm
Zevon has eight fans….


Iron Maiden and New Order/Joy Division are ridiculous omissions. Hell you would think new order having a woman in the band in 1981 would help….it was pretty damn unusual

JD/NO is the most influential band of the last 40 years

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on May 03, 2023, 03:04:35 pm
JD/NO is the most influential band of the last 40 years

lol.  imma give you a few minutes to reflect on that...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on May 03, 2023, 03:08:55 pm
JD/NO is the most influential band of the last 40 years

lol.  imma give you a few minutes to reflect on that...
I’m going to set the over/under on Hutch’s reply at 5.5 paragraphs.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hutch on May 03, 2023, 03:52:11 pm
No. I believe that….the mixing of synths with live instrumentation and popularizing dance/rock starts with them… I am sure someone can argue with it but I truly believe that… modern music is just taking the new order template and building on that…someone had to take us from Kraftwerk to now and that band was new order… Bernard literally was building his own synths while Stephen experimented with drum machines… overlay live guitar and bass and you got modern music
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on May 03, 2023, 03:52:51 pm
The following would like a word regarding “girls” in bands in late 70s and early 80s


The Motels
B-52s
The Waitresses
The Plasmatics
Pearl Harbour and The Explosions
Altered Images
Romeo Void
Missing Persons
Berlin
The Go-Gos
The Raincoats
Bush Tetras
Talking Heads
Blondie
10,000 Maniacs
Fleetwood Mac

That’s just off the top of my head I’m sure there are more

Also Sara Lee was in Gang of Four by then…

If anything in punk, new wave, etc the line ups were more diverse up through the mid 80s than the typical four+ dudes combos that keep forming
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Cock Van Der Palm on May 03, 2023, 03:55:18 pm
Pylon
The Runaways
The Pretenders
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hutch on May 03, 2023, 03:57:57 pm
The girls in bands thing is the least important thing…just saying I would think it would have helped with the PC crowd…
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hutch on May 03, 2023, 03:58:48 pm
Somebody had to take the Kraftwerk bleeps and turn them into the mainstream…that band was New Order

I gotta go to work (YYY).
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on May 03, 2023, 04:05:01 pm
I’m in a mood and on a roll


Martha and The Muffins
Color Me Gone
Swimming Pool Qs
Gualdacanal Diary


Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Cock Van Der Palm on May 03, 2023, 04:59:37 pm
The Feelies
The Slits
X
Patti Smith Group
Siouxie and the Banshees

I’m in a mood and on a roll


Martha and The Muffins
Color Me Gone
Swimming Pool Qs
Gualdacanal Diary

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hutch on May 03, 2023, 05:01:08 pm
Feelies are one of the best live shows around


Unfortunately a very select few realize it


Bring a clueless friend
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on May 03, 2023, 05:18:49 pm
Guys, the “rolling compendium of bands better than The Clash” thread is like ten pages back.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on May 03, 2023, 07:12:59 pm
Guys, the “rolling compendium of bands better than The Clash” thread is like ten pages back.

Valid, even if it's one of the lesser compendia.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on May 04, 2023, 02:16:55 pm
One of those good news, bad news situations

The Good News Ed Sheeran Found Not Guilty Of Plagiarizing "Let's Get It Out"

The Bad News Ed Sheeran Found Not Guilty Of Plagiarizing "Let's Get It Out", he threaten to quit music if found guilty
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 04, 2023, 02:44:11 pm
he threaten to quit music if found guilty
saw that and was crushed when they read the verdict
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on May 04, 2023, 05:36:05 pm
It was pointed out since it was a civil trial he was found not liable for copyright infringement and some are hoping this sets a precedent against these types of lawsuits

Also, someone pointed out that chord progression was used in Midnight Train to Georgia released not one month after Let’s Get It On
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on May 04, 2023, 07:19:43 pm
It was pointed out since it was a civil trial he was found not liable for copyright infringement and some are hoping this sets a precedent against these types of lawsuits
What? This is not how “precedent” works. That’s like saying someone was found not-guilty of murder so all murder trials are now cancelled.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on May 04, 2023, 07:48:46 pm
One of those good news, bad news situations

The Good News Ed Sheeran Found Not Guilty Of Plagiarizing "Let's Get It Out"

The Bad News Ed Sheeran Found Not Guilty Of Plagiarizing "Let's Get It Out", he threaten to quit music if found guilty

Wife and daughter insist he's very talented.

I still don't think I've ever head any of his songs, except maybe a duet with Taylor Swinft.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hutch on May 04, 2023, 08:07:56 pm
He was in that Beatles movie!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on May 04, 2023, 08:57:47 pm
Ok I used the wrong word

“Ed Sheeran's win in his copyright infringement trial is a victory for music itself, music copyright experts tell us.

“It will give people ... more comfort in feeling they might not get sued and lose at every turn,” says one prominent music lawyer.”

https://twitter.com/rollingstone/status/1654244556966367233?s=46&t=81bsTFbar0Jl_mHBl9WnuA
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on May 04, 2023, 09:11:42 pm
He was in that Beatles movie!

Good film. Totally forgot about it.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on May 12, 2023, 08:24:06 am
The Mars Volta albums ranked: From worst to best.

Sadly, none of them made it to the top five...


https://www.altpress.com/the-mars-volta-albums-ranked/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on May 12, 2023, 03:28:26 pm
AI may not have reached self-awareness yet, but Rivers has:

Rivers Cuomo Agrees Weezer Might Have “Too Much” Music (https://consequence.net/2023/05/rivers-cuomo-agrees-weezer-might-have-too-much-music/)
"Maybe the whole thing would be more impactful if we could go back in time and just release the very best stuff"
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 19, 2023, 10:15:35 am
this is for the wetleg haters

Wet Leg just won Songwriters of the year by the The Ivors Academy
https://ivorsacademy.com/awards/the-ivors/

Beating Flo and her machine, the 1975, harry styles and...CENTRAL CEE AND YOUNG CHENCS??
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on May 19, 2023, 11:58:09 am
Considering the competition, it only reinforces their corporate rock clout. They're like the Go West of indie.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on May 19, 2023, 12:12:27 pm
and...CENTRAL CEE AND YOUNG CHENCS was robbed
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 19, 2023, 08:07:25 pm
I didn’t think you could draw a straight line from CrazyTown to Chuck Mangione

but goddamn
https://twitter.com/atothe_d/status/1659390859777921026

Wait RHCP too… this tweet has multitudes
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 21, 2023, 12:35:01 pm

(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/348435211_259360129955065_3035052774122288438_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=1LHDUIYd8XgAX_hS86I&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=00_AfAbeMeOdb4Z8p4ZbsgU9wO2jbJyzU1TdBy-M1b_sFUXFg&oe=646E64FE)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 22, 2023, 03:13:46 pm
Spoiler alert… love and rockets set list is amazing

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/love-and-rockets/2023/fox-theater-oakland-ca-bb93126.html
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on May 22, 2023, 03:19:13 pm
Spoiler alert… love and rockets set list is amazing

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/love-and-rockets/2023/fox-theater-oakland-ca-bb93126.html

I only know four of the songs.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hutch on May 22, 2023, 04:06:20 pm
How sad!

That’s a better set list than when we saw them at the club….

Still it was epic that first time when they came out (after Dandy Warhols who were great but pretty unknown) and rocked out on Ying Yang the Flower Pot Man

Really looking forward to this show on the 11th….got a run of great shows coming up…I hope it don’t kill me though
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on May 22, 2023, 04:29:40 pm
i had forgotten that "Haunted When the Minutes Drag" is by L&R... beautiful song.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 22, 2023, 05:08:36 pm
Spoiler alert… love and rockets set list is amazing

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/love-and-rockets/2023/fox-theater-oakland-ca-bb93126.html

I only know four of the songs.
Is that the same amount you knew before I posted this
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hutch on May 22, 2023, 06:14:51 pm
I feel like space doesn’t listen much to 80s British bands…just can’t see him at Depeche Mode, new order, Siouxsie, pet shop boys, OMD, love and Rockets 🚀, even the cure

It’s not his bag I wanna say
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on May 22, 2023, 06:32:43 pm
I feel like space doesn’t listen much to 80s British bands…just can’t see him at Depeche Mode, new order, Siouxsie, pet shop boys, OMD, love and Rockets 🚀, even the cure

It’s not his bag I wanna say

Depeche Mode-don't like (but my wife does)
New Order-one of my favorites (was out of town for their show last year)
Siouxie-don't like
Pet Shop Boys-love maybe a half dozen of their hits, but there's a big drop off after that
OMD-good, but wouldn't see them
Smiths-one of my favorites...would consider seeing Marr but haven't, Morrissey too unpredictable, his politics don't bother me
Love and Rockets-don't like
Cure-would see them but not at current prices and venue size
Big Audio Dynamite-loved them but seems like Mick Jones is done
Duran Duran-would love to Stubhub them
Loved a lot of 80s British ska...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hutch on May 22, 2023, 06:50:45 pm
Ok guess I stand corrected

Most people would probably only have heard two L&R songs if that maybe

So Alive
Ball of Confusion

I think they had a song on a John Hughes movie soundtrack but I forget which one. Something from Seventh Dream

I think I would put Express (cd version with Holiday on the moon) in my top 100 favorite records ever. It’s weird not that they didn’t sell more records but that they are not more critically acclaimed (in fact they are put down a lot). There are many big time musicians that are into them but the critics have their knives out for Love and Rockets. People like Maynard from Tool, Billy Corgan, Wayne Coyne (flaming lips), Frank Black etc. love them.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 23, 2023, 06:45:59 am

I think they had a song on a John Hughes movie soundtrack but I forget which one. Something from Seventh Dream
haunted
Quote
I think I would put Express (cd version with Holiday on the moon) in my top 100 favorite records ever.
Same
I only owned the cd and was all excited for the vinyl reissue and that they didn’t include HOTM in the reissue was criminal
One of my favorites
Been wanting to buy the 12inch for a while


That’s why the set list is great.  I think the two times I saw them, they only played a few express era songs.  So for me a dream set list
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on May 27, 2023, 09:50:34 pm
Epic guestlist

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CsxJT5cr_PL/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hutch on May 27, 2023, 10:34:57 pm
Lord that is hard to believe


Nick Cave dancing at a Springsteen show and to Glory Days.

Thanks for nothing Yada…going to be hard to forget that
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on May 28, 2023, 07:07:12 am
Lord that is hard to believe


Nick Cave dancing at a Springsteen show and to Glory Days.

Thanks for nothing Yada…going to be hard to forget that

Let the guy have fun, dancing is better than prozac or therapy.

I'm more concerned about Chris Rock.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on May 30, 2023, 12:53:33 pm
Ambient Country
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on May 30, 2023, 01:03:19 pm
Ambient Country

Been following...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on June 02, 2023, 07:43:11 am
so oasis reunion tour pushed back to 2025

Liam apologizes for Noel's cover of "Love Will Tear Us Apart"

"I must once again apologise on behalf of my family for Rkids piss poor and damn rite blasphemous version of joy division’s love will tear us apart tut fucking tut SORRY"

https://youtu.be/GCQq5KD5Unk

YIKES this is lousy...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on June 02, 2023, 07:44:46 am
So with Blur and Pulp announcing South American dates, does this mean a US tour is in the planning? 

A Blur and Pulp show in the fall at Merriweather would be ace...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on June 02, 2023, 08:21:56 am
so oasis reunion tour pushed back to 2025

Liam apologizes for Noel's cover of "Love Will Tear Us Apart"

"I must once again apologise on behalf of my family for Rkids piss poor and damn rite blasphemous version of joy division’s love will tear us apart tut fucking tut SORRY"

https://youtu.be/GCQq5KD5Unk

YIKES this is lousy...

Not even Nick Cave would dance to that.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on June 02, 2023, 08:26:21 am
So with Blur and Pulp announcing South American dates, does this mean a US tour is in the planning? 

A Blur and Pulp show in the fall at Merriweather would be ace...

Digging the new Blur track...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on June 02, 2023, 08:57:16 am
So with Blur and Pulp announcing South American dates, does this mean a US tour is in the planning? 

A Blur and Pulp show in the fall at Merriweather would be ace...

Digging the new Blur track...
Much better than anything off Magic Whip. That said, still annoyed at the prospect of new songs at Wembley next month . . .
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on June 02, 2023, 09:26:17 am
So with Blur and Pulp announcing South American dates, does this mean a US tour is in the planning? 

A Blur and Pulp show in the fall at Merriweather would be ace...

Digging the new Blur track...
Much better than anything off Magic Whip. That said, still annoyed at the prospect of new songs at Wembley next month . . .

called it ;)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on June 08, 2023, 10:51:54 am
I saw this in a record review.. it's pretty brutal

"It has since been deleted, and deservedly so."
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on June 08, 2023, 02:04:28 pm
Today I learned that the Mense@r song "Stardust' is actually a Bobby Gillespie diss track...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zfdao4uYFyc

All this is bubbling up because of the statement made by Martin Duffy's son Louie regarding his dad's final days and how he was being treated by Primal Scream.

Stuart Murdoch tweeted about it here and there is a link to the full statement in the re-tweet.

https://twitter.com/nee_massey/status/1666811409349627909?s=20

Here is the link to the statement
https://twitter.com/SteveDuffy99/status/1666352994118500353?s=20

The statement is a long read, but bottom line was Martin was binge alcoholic and was on a bender when he fell and hit his head which lead to his death.  But, the slightly damning part of the statement is directed at Primal Scream who is now essentially Bobby and Andrew with session musicians backing them.  Despite being a member of the band for over 30 years, Martin had been sidelined as a session musician within the group.  Was getting cutout of songwriting credits and didn't see any money when the Primal Scream catalog was sold.  The only money he was seeing as being part of the band was when they toured, which was less and less and the non-existence due to COVID. 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hutch on June 08, 2023, 02:41:59 pm
That is so sad….

Probably the truth is somewhere in the middle…..still, not a good look for Bobby Gillespie, one of my musical heroes
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on June 08, 2023, 03:10:34 pm
No doubt there isn't a second side to the story, but what a tragic end to a talented musicians life... what that poor son had to deal with after his fathers fall
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hutch on June 08, 2023, 03:18:51 pm
Yeah…it sucks

I think at some point musicians need to be honest with themselves and if they are getting squeezed find a new career. The Scream really slowed down after the early 2000s…. There wasn’t much money to be had. I doubt Bobby is rolling in it as much as one might think…

Bands start out being a bunch of friends drinking and shagging chicks but a few years later it’s a business and you really have to take care of yourself and not depend on the kindness of others….

I mean complaining about not getting paid for Utopian Ashes? That record probably sold between 1000-2000 copies! No money in it

Honestly it reads like a bitter grievance/score settling and does Duffy’s legacy no favors… while I empathize with his son I wish he hadn’t written that screed
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hutch on June 09, 2023, 08:57:07 am
Interesting

https://www.nme.com/news/music/nick-cave-on-the-new-bad-seeds-album-and-the-chances-of-more-from-grinderman-3449133
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 10, 2023, 08:38:50 am
Fuck…but sounds like he caught it early


Mike Ness of Social Distortion diagnosed with stage one cancer
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 18, 2023, 01:42:20 pm
never heard this story, but love that Patti Smith punched the Nudge for making a homophobic comment 45 years ago

45 Years Ago: Patti Smith Punches Ted Nugent on Live Radio

 https://ultimateclassicrock.com/ted-nugent-patti-smith-fight
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on June 21, 2023, 10:22:24 am
Gotta a spare cool million laying about?  then you too could own the RARESET Van Halen CD EVER

Van Halen RAREST CD EVER ONLY KNOWN COPY ONE OF A KIND FACTORY ERROR MISPRINT

"After in-depth Inquiries, research and communication with multiple music collecting sources, it’s been determined that this may indeed be one of the rarest rock collectibles to be made available to the public."

https://www.ebay.com/itm/324938955762?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=vchpmPVxSUi&sssrc=2047675&ssuid=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

because never in the course of CD manufacturing has a disc not had the label printed on it   ::)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hutch on June 21, 2023, 10:48:28 am
Hilarious. Obviously someone having a laugh
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on June 21, 2023, 02:16:55 pm
Happy 75th Birthday to the LP (https://wtop.com/lifestyle/2023/06/vinyl-lp-turns-75-revolutionized-how-music-was-recorded-packaged-listened-to/), the invention that elevated 33 1/3 to The Pantheon of Famous Numbers That Are Not Integers.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 21, 2023, 05:23:39 pm
never knew this was Jason's origin story

Then, at the age of 22, his moment arrived. A member of the Drive-By Truckers, a band that had returned to its home in the Shoals to play a breakthrough house concert for Spin magazine, failed to show up for the gig. As a result, Isbell got a rapid field promotion onto the stage. He joined the band for the show and then departed on tour with the band for the next six years.


https://www.npr.org/2023/06/21/1183194069/jason-isbell-weathervanes-profile
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 03, 2023, 08:19:54 pm
Somehow in 2023 I just learned that Tony Visconti produced TRex's  albums

then (and performed on) the man who sold the world (this I knew)
Oddly though did NOT produce Ziggy and that's the most Bolan record Bowie did

Tony may have had a lot more to do with glam rock fuzz than I'd previously thought.

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on July 11, 2023, 09:49:31 am
I guess this goes to show the power of a great pop/rock song...

I own no Elton John albums, never seen him in concert and yet I know far more of his hits then one would expect.  So only exposure would be 70s/80s radio, TV and probably movies. 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hutch on July 11, 2023, 10:08:08 am
It shows the power of a popular song when rock was king. They were in the air back then….

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on July 11, 2023, 10:23:34 am
It shows the power of a popular song when rock was young. They were in the air back then….



FTFY
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hutch on July 11, 2023, 10:28:33 am
I don’t agree with that….popular music just had a different role in daily life back then….very unifying…now popular music is just not that popular…it’s audience is very fragmented…

Curiously, live music has never been more popular
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on July 11, 2023, 10:39:29 am
It shows the power of a popular song when rock was young. They were in the air back then….



FTFY

It was funny because its a reference to an Elton John song.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hutch on July 11, 2023, 10:44:59 am
Oh ok
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 11, 2023, 10:52:49 am
I own no Elton John albums, never seen him in concert and yet I know far more of his hits then one would expect.  So only exposure would be 70s/80s radio, TV and probably movies.
Grocery stores, man. Elton John is a top-3 grocery store artist all-time. Arguably #2 behind just Mariah Carey.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hutch on July 11, 2023, 10:55:49 am
On the other hand even if Kosmo don’t own his albums wasn’t Elton the top selling act in America during the 1970s?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on July 12, 2023, 12:49:01 pm
Currently Justin is scouring the tubes of the internet to gets his mitts on the new Taylor Swift... i mean Cabaret Voltaire/Thuderhead vinyl misprint

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Cock Van Der Palm on July 12, 2023, 01:03:57 pm
Kosmo doesn't own his albums?  Are they on loan or is he just renting them?

On the other hand even if Kosmo don’t own his albums wasn’t Elton the top selling act in America during the 1970s?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on July 12, 2023, 02:28:16 pm
Currently Justin is scouring the tubes of the internet to gets his mitts on the new Taylor Swift... i mean Cabaret Voltaire/Thuderhead vinyl misprint

?

Are you referring to my replies to some of the dumber comments on Chris Richards' piece?

I also said that Neil Young's Geffen trouble was a bigger FU than TS's re-recordings.

The plethora of "who cares" responses was really annoying, especially when they're smug about it. So many people think they're above pop culture yet they take lots of their own time responding to it.

Same thing with Ann Hornaday's Tom Cruise article. So many suckers responded the same way.

Now I await Richards and Hornaday swapping subjects (I'd like to see that; could be interesting).

As for hunting, this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyNwXGpwNXM) is my current search. Specifically, what Scarlatti "Toccata per cembelo" is it? And is it Domenico or Alessandro? I just got a CD of this from my library and it's the only piece that I can't fully identify.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on July 12, 2023, 02:41:44 pm
A person who ordered the new Taylor Swift album got a misprint with 'cursed' electronic music on it instead.

The cursed' electronic music was identified as a 12 inch released with Cabaret Voltaire/Thuderhead on each side.

https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-66179045

No one knows how this misprint happened except it may because both were pressed in France at the same plant.

And, speaking of misprint I saw the other day that there were copies of Prince's "Lovesexy" that on one side was The Soup Dragons first album also released that week.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 13, 2023, 01:28:13 pm
never seen the boss with long hair

(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/359786519_245377394924126_5028138956304495281_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=C4XjxMURQ_YAX_ByCzj&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=00_AfBoTDcpP0cMZNIX1U-eTUUDt7kNJ38gj1bS1ZbxgN5SZQ&oe=64B5D5C8)

JULY 11 1971
The Bruce Springsteen Band opened for Humble Pie at the Sunshine In, Asbury Park in New Jersey. After the show an impressed Peter Frampton from Humble Pie, tells Springsteen and the band he'd like to have them open for them on a national basis. Frampton also said he would be happy to get the band an audition with his record label, A & M Records. For no logical reason Springsteen’s manager Tinker West declined both offers on the spot
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on July 13, 2023, 01:57:49 pm
This is a bit like when I saw Marshall Crenshaw with long hair

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Emk3S0LU4AA6iku.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hutch on July 13, 2023, 02:15:03 pm
Steel Mill baby! Their biggest fanbase outside NJ was in Richmond…

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on July 14, 2023, 02:29:12 pm
never seen the boss with long hair

(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/359786519_245377394924126_5028138956304495281_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=C4XjxMURQ_YAX_ByCzj&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=00_AfBoTDcpP0cMZNIX1U-eTUUDt7kNJ38gj1bS1ZbxgN5SZQ&oe=64B5D5C8)

also, not used to seeing him with a les paul.

(https://whatgear-pictures.s3.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/occurrences/bruce_springsteen_uses_gibson_les_paul_deluxe_1_88871d25fc.jpg)
 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on July 14, 2023, 02:37:09 pm
...or sitting down


(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/ce/67/9c/ce679c0efc49b560189da34b18080005.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on July 14, 2023, 02:38:30 pm
^ lol
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on July 20, 2023, 02:51:52 pm
A+ Musicological banter

"Try That In A Small Town" is a pretty offensive song for sure, but as a songwriter, I'm also offended that it took 5 people to write that steaming pile of crap RS

https://twitter.com/RonSexsmith/status/1682053767733051395?s=20

I also liked Sheryl Crow'as take on this "It's Just Lame"
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on July 27, 2023, 01:56:39 pm
Chuck D nailed this one, so very true

When the industry media covers a artists death and obituary BETTER than the independent most recent work of artists… it makes you question any true integrity of support.

https://twitter.com/MrChuckD/status/1684344251574898690?s=20
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hutch on July 27, 2023, 02:31:19 pm
Walkie must be pretty beat up..he was a big Sinead fan
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 27, 2023, 02:32:47 pm
The thing about this song and which is hammered home by the video is just how incongruous its message is with country music historically. You’re talking about “try punching a cop in a small town” and singing it in front of the county courthouse. The zombies of Waylon Jennings and Hank Williams should be rising from the grave and kicking this dudes ass. It’s hilarious how the Jason Aldeans of the world are “outlaws” then create the carry the water for cops crap. Pick a lane.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 27, 2023, 02:34:47 pm
it's like the guys who have the 'don't tread on me' flag, right next to the US flag with the blue line in it

Either you don't like authoritarian control, or you do...pick a side, can't have it both ways
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 27, 2023, 02:40:32 pm
it's like the guys who have the 'don't tread on me' flag, right next to the US flag with the blue line in it
Exactly. Perfect example. Cops for thee, not for me.

But again, just the gall of a country musician shooting a video next to the historic “best friend” of every country musician historically: the county courthouse.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on July 27, 2023, 03:00:29 pm
and of course is was only a matter of time for him to claim, in front of thousands of fans, that he was a victim of cancel culture

blasted woke mind virus some of us have
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 27, 2023, 03:03:55 pm
and of course is was only a matter of time for him to claim, in front of thousands of fans, that he was a victim of cancel culture
May we all be so lucky to be cancelled all the way to the biggest hit of our career.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 27, 2023, 03:15:49 pm
this was one of my favorites from this incident

@JasonIsbell
Ok here ya go @Jason_Aldean I’m challenging you to write a song yourself. All alone. If you’re a recording artist, make some art. I want to hear it.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 27, 2023, 08:07:34 pm
Oh onion, how I love thee

Man Who Said N-Word Standing Near Guitar Reaches Top Of Country Billboard Charts
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 28, 2023, 06:50:27 pm
This headline made me giggle

Protests give Jason Aldean too much credit for his terrible country song
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on July 30, 2023, 05:39:10 pm
The worst rock song in history just got worse. (https://youtu.be/L3JiWJbQ7tY)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 31, 2023, 10:24:05 pm
The worst rock song in history just got worse. (https://youtu.be/L3JiWJbQ7tY)
I dunno, kinda an upgrade IMO
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on August 01, 2023, 03:08:03 pm
Fugazi's "Merchandise" is about Swedish death cleaning (https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2023/08/01/swedish-death-cleaning-method/)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on August 02, 2023, 09:24:55 am
Talk about changing the direction of one's sound... Corinne Bailey Rae has totally re-invented herself from popish soul to full on Glam/Punk Power trio ala Hole/L7. 

I saw this mentioned elsewhere and the Wikipedia confirms this but, this is actually a return to what she started out doing as her first group was called Helen and was compared to Veruca Salt.

Regardless, this shift if sound could result in a very interesting show from her

https://youtu.be/WyVyV44EujE
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on August 03, 2023, 04:04:05 pm
https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-mdou-moctar-while-they-cannot-return-home?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on August 03, 2023, 06:38:38 pm
Oasis reunion pushed back to 2025

Noel has referred to Liam as being the tambourine player
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on August 14, 2023, 10:17:53 am
this guy is obviously talented... but sounds like he's gettin' the wrong fanbase. #drewtang

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-country/rich-men-north-of-richmond-oliver-anthony-conservative-country-song-1234805701/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on August 14, 2023, 11:02:03 am
these guys are talented too...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1uqe6GQdbU
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hutch on August 14, 2023, 11:03:21 am
That’s horrible

You owe me
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 14, 2023, 03:47:42 pm
welp since there is no photological banter thread

This is just such a great shot
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/366982588_10231127612193960_7419579671866997104_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=0f5592&_nc_ohc=Hbp89l6ttB0AX_czvRO&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=00_AfBVHvxlFQzyX3IP7slm_0z3AtvyxI7zdWnY3ipwRgRxZA&oe=64DEDFBD)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on August 16, 2023, 09:32:02 am
Seems like it's going to be harder and harder for smaller UK bands to ever tour the US in the future.  A band posted they paid $5800 for a US visa with more fees to come. 

oh wait they are all probably socialists anyways, who needs them on our shores...

 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 16, 2023, 09:38:45 am
  A band posted they paid $5800 for a US visa with more fees to come. 
What!
are visa fees that high to come from UK to US?  that doesn't sound right, is there some sort of 'entertainment visa' that is more expensive
I can see transit (especially if they are bringing all their gear), lodging and food being the bulk of the cost, but if you have add $6k ...yikes
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on August 16, 2023, 10:02:52 am
Think this is accurate and at one point earlier in the year there were proposals to raise them even higher, think that one was backed off from.

In February Simon Raymonde of Cocteau Twins fame, and obviously others, who now runs Bella Union stated they were going to raise the cost of a visa from currently approximately $500 per person to $1650 so it would cost upwards of 10K just to get at four piece band to the States.

I believe there is a special lower cost limited visa bands/artists can use for shows at SXSW and showcases usually only LA or NYC.

Here's the tweet about where the  proposed visa cost changes stand from Future of Music Coalition

https://twitter.com/future_of_music/status/1679899000990838811?s=20

 Great news! Remember how in January we heard that Homeland Security was proposing to triple the visa fees for international artists, making it impossible for many artists to tour the US? Artists, venues, arts presenters, and fans all filed comments opposing the fee hike. Well…
DHS has announced that they are going to delay any final rulemaking on the visa fees until March 2024, and continue to review public feedback.  That's an encouraging sign and an organizing victory worth celebrating!

more details in the thread

but yes fees and processing time is really causing issues for international touring artist in the US.

plus UK artists now have even more fees trying to go to EU.


 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 16, 2023, 10:30:11 am
so it would cost upwards of 10K just to get at four piece band to the States.

I believe there is a special lower cost limited visa bands/artists can use for shows at SXSW and showcases usually only LA or NYC.
damn
also was wondering why a band would make the effort to get across the pond to only do just 1-2 dates, but this answers it

is this some sort of protectionist tariff created by the 'recording and touring artists of the US' to discourage artists from coming here
nuts
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on August 16, 2023, 01:38:32 pm
https://www.tiktok.com/@brucenangmusic/video/7267353744784903466
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 17, 2023, 09:33:15 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F3vI9f2WoAAaO2f?format=webp&name=small)
https://www.stereogum.com/2233458/sky-ferreira-responds-to-fans-free-sky-ferreira-billboard/news/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on August 25, 2023, 02:10:20 pm
Cute story about an 11-year-old Michael McDonald fan (https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/08/24/michael-mcdonald-young-fan-paisley/)

Paisley imagined McDonald was in his 40s and had blond hair. She even drew a pencil sketch of what she imagined his face looked like.

But last summer, Paisley searched for McDonald on Google and saw he had white hair and wrinkles. In distress, she ran to her mom’s room crying, “No!”
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 25, 2023, 02:23:28 pm
Cute story about an 11-year-old Michael McDonald fan (https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/08/24/michael-mcdonald-young-fan-paisley/)

Paisley imagined McDonald was in his 40s and had blond hair. She even drew a pencil sketch of what she imagined his face looked like.

But last summer, Paisley searched for McDonald on Google and saw he had white hair and wrinkles. In distress, she ran to her mom’s room crying, “No!”

Glad the Washington Post is getting around to doing one of the essential responsibilities of the Fourth Estate: passive aggressively making Michael McDonald feel bad about himself.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on August 25, 2023, 02:53:49 pm
Cute story about an 11-year-old Michael McDonald fan (https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/08/24/michael-mcdonald-young-fan-paisley/)

Paisley imagined McDonald was in his 40s and had blond hair. She even drew a pencil sketch of what she imagined his face looked like.

But last summer, Paisley searched for McDonald on Google and saw he had white hair and wrinkles. In distress, she ran to her mom’s room crying, “No!”

Glad the Washington Post is getting around to doing one of the essential responsibilities of the Fourth Estate: passive aggressively making Michael McDonald feel bad about himself.

When you possess the most certifiably distinctive voice in pop, you need to be taken down a notch now and then.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 25, 2023, 03:52:44 pm
this guy is obviously talented... but sounds like he's gettin' the wrong fanbase. #drewtang

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-country/rich-men-north-of-richmond-oliver-anthony-conservative-country-song-1234805701/
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F4ZoDmFWUAA0DmC?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 25, 2023, 05:26:49 pm
Cute story about an 11-year-old Michael McDonald fan (https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/08/24/michael-mcdonald-young-fan-paisley/)

Paisley imagined McDonald was in his 40s and had blond hair. She even drew a pencil sketch of what she imagined his face looked like.

But last summer, Paisley searched for McDonald on Google and saw he had white hair and wrinkles. In distress, she ran to her mom’s room crying, “No!”

Glad the Washington Post is getting around to doing one of the essential responsibilities of the Fourth Estate: passive aggressively making Michael McDonald feel bad about himself.

When you possess the most certifiably distinctive voice in pop, you need to be taken down a notch now and then.
He had it coming.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Bagley on August 28, 2023, 08:12:44 pm
Joan Jett, a super Orioles fan, hung out with the O’s TV crew in the booth tonight!

They asked her who she listened to these days. Her response- Fugazi.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hutch on August 28, 2023, 08:47:45 pm
Joan Jett, a super Orioles fan, hung out with the O’s TV crew in the booth tonight!

They asked her who she listened to these days. Her response- Fugazi.

That’s dope!

Been listening to Fugazi myself..I have picked up about ten of those live discs…so good
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on August 28, 2023, 09:18:07 pm
"Give Me The Cure" playing just as I was reading this.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 28, 2023, 09:27:32 pm
Joan Jett, a super Orioles fan, hung out with the O’s TV crew in the booth tonight!
saw someone post this old pic
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F4qS-8JXcAAF88i?format=jpg&name=360x360)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on August 29, 2023, 09:52:09 am
Just saw an album with a 2024 release date  ;)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 05, 2023, 02:13:22 pm
That rare instance where the hutch's stacks o'wax collides headlong into the JA...

Black Sabbath: The Ballet

currently in production in Birmingham with Tony Iommi involved
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 05, 2023, 02:16:38 pm
That rare instance where the hutch's stacks o'wax collides headlong into the JA...

Black Sabbath: The Ballet

currently in production in Birmingham with Tony Iommi involved
The audacity that you’d think a ballet being done in BIRMINGHAM would qualify for Julian’s America boggles the mind.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on September 08, 2023, 09:00:03 am
Concert Etiquette (https://twitter.com/Lucymaywalker/status/1699834997551898888?t=JD8leFOH_2uFv0OYxSeq0Q&s=19)

....and if you do buy a rabbit from the merch table, try to wait until after the show.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hutch on September 08, 2023, 09:04:27 am
“Encourage people to behave”?!?

WTF

It’s a rock concert not a fucking funeral
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 08, 2023, 04:40:39 pm
(https://scontent.ffxe1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/375795476_857103615983697_593099824929184661_n.jpg?_nc_cat=106&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=49d041&_nc_ohc=hEFJcmTaEzgAX-njX_v&_nc_ht=scontent.ffxe1-1.fna&oh=00_AfAUr4NN74-roB4AOMR6Wr0HLRxlnlPMrRzbecB4_cIFew&oe=64FFDC0F)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Bagley on September 12, 2023, 01:35:32 pm
Jayhawks question-

Who sang most of the lead vocals back in the day  (i.e. Hollywood Town Hall)-  Olson or Louris?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 12, 2023, 01:57:39 pm
In honor of Neil's birthday
(https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aMxPYpA_700bwp.webp)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 12, 2023, 02:44:12 pm
(https://scontent.ffxe1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/375795476_857103615983697_593099824929184661_n.jpg?_nc_cat=106&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=49d041&_nc_ohc=hEFJcmTaEzgAX-njX_v&_nc_ht=scontent.ffxe1-1.fna&oh=00_AfAUr4NN74-roB4AOMR6Wr0HLRxlnlPMrRzbecB4_cIFew&oe=64FFDC0F)

shootingblankshatch
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 12, 2023, 04:46:14 pm
(https://scontent.ffxe1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/375795476_857103615983697_593099824929184661_n.jpg?_nc_cat=106&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=49d041&_nc_ohc=hEFJcmTaEzgAX-njX_v&_nc_ht=scontent.ffxe1-1.fna&oh=00_AfAUr4NN74-roB4AOMR6Wr0HLRxlnlPMrRzbecB4_cIFew&oe=64FFDC0F)

shootingblankshatch
yeah, need to stop posting things I find on facebook...as they have a really short half-life
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on September 12, 2023, 08:20:08 pm
Every day

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CxHBujqPkDt/?igshid=MTc4MmM1YmI2Ng==
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 14, 2023, 10:24:27 am
I was looking up a band today and came across a website for a clearly defunct DC group called Midnight Kids that had member of the Apes and oddly Thievery Corporation.

Check the link to their myspace, but oddly the link to Bandcamp still works.

 http://midnightkids.com/

the current Midnight Kids clearly unable to wrangle the domain away from them...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 14, 2023, 10:37:21 am
more DC Midnight Kids info

https://washingtoncitypaper.com/article/438377/breaking-ex-apes-re-group-as-midnight-kids/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hutch on September 14, 2023, 11:35:30 am
more DC Midnight Kids info

https://washingtoncitypaper.com/article/438377/breaking-ex-apes-re-group-as-midnight-kids/

Are they different from Heavy Breathing?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 14, 2023, 11:59:29 am
more DC Midnight Kids info

https://washingtoncitypaper.com/article/438377/breaking-ex-apes-re-group-as-midnight-kids/

Are they different from Heavy Breathing?
actually the new band...with most of the Apes is called Club USA https://clubusa.bandcamp.com/
they just played comet ping pong and quarry house next week
https://dice.fm/event/k92eq-nolan-potters-nightmare-band-club-usa-21st-sep-quarry-house-tavern-washington-dc-tickets?lng=en-US
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hutch on September 14, 2023, 12:06:59 pm
I saw the Apes first show at Velvet Lounge.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 14, 2023, 12:09:47 pm
I guess when I said Defunct, I meant soon to reform as Heavy Breathing and researchhatch filled in the rest of the developments
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on September 14, 2023, 12:59:08 pm
I saw the Apes first show at Velvet Lounge.

I'm losing my edge.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hutch on September 14, 2023, 01:19:02 pm
I was there.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 14, 2023, 02:43:26 pm
I was there.
let’s be honest, you hated every minute
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hutch on September 14, 2023, 02:55:01 pm


It was bad Deep Purple as if Deep Purple is not bad enough
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 14, 2023, 05:44:37 pm


It was bad Deep Purple as if Deep Purple is not bad enough
That’s a good stuff I come to expect
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on September 14, 2023, 06:56:02 pm


It was bad Deep Purple as if Deep Purple is not bad enough
That’s a good stuff I come to expect

angus young described deep purple as "a poor man's led zeppelin (https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/band-angus-young-poor-mans-led-zeppelin/)"
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on September 14, 2023, 07:21:23 pm
Jon Lord was better on organ than Jimmy Page on guitar.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Cock Van Der Palm on September 14, 2023, 07:31:59 pm
That's what she said

Jon Lord was better on organ than Jimmy Page on guitar.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on September 14, 2023, 08:10:32 pm


It was bad Deep Purple as if Deep Purple is not bad enough
That’s a good stuff I come to expect

angus young described deep purple as "a poor man's led zeppelin (https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/band-angus-young-poor-mans-led-zeppelin/)"

Yes, but what does Corey Taylor think?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 15, 2023, 11:57:13 am
I hope for the sake of this reviewer that there any really rabid Lana fans, because ooof

From a review of the new marvelous Soda Blonde album

What would Lana Del Ray sound like if she was a better singer in a better band and got over all the tiresome ennui? Here’s your answer.

https://www.hotpress.com/music/album-review-soda-blonde-dream-big-22987692
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on September 15, 2023, 03:24:31 pm
Will Speedy Ortiz be the first to challenge Seth's ban on rabbit sales at the merch table?

https://diymag.com/interview/speedy-ortiz-rabbit-rabbit-september-2023
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 15, 2023, 03:41:43 pm
Will Speedy Ortiz be the first to challenge Seth's ban on rabbit sales at the merch table?

https://diymag.com/interview/speedy-ortiz-rabbit-rabbit-september-2023
To be fair, Seth never said bands couldn’t sell rabbit at his club, he just wants a percentage of that sweet, sweet Hasenpfeffer haul.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 18, 2023, 11:15:34 am
I’m curious as to what Stuart Murdoch was working on while he was in LA.  One of people writing with him was Bartees Strange.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 18, 2023, 01:04:30 pm
I’m curious as to what Stuart Murdoch was working on while he was in LA.  One of people writing with him was Bartees Strange.
I bet he gets his scooter
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on September 18, 2023, 03:58:43 pm
I'd like some lasagna.

IYKYK
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 18, 2023, 08:52:27 pm
this is for Justin
(https://i.redd.it/ue8pew0qrxnb1.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on September 18, 2023, 09:01:00 pm
Matter of fact, some grad students performed a Cage work in my library last week, "Seven2". It was pretty chill.

Cage joked that when he added up the silences and came up with 4'33", he might have made an error in his arithmetic.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 18, 2023, 11:42:27 pm
Matter of fact, some grad students performed a Cage work in my library last week, "Seven2". It was pretty chill.

Cage joked that when he added up the silences and came up with 4'33", he might have made an error in his arithmetic.
see, I knew this would land with you
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 19, 2023, 11:12:26 am
I get it when I don't know who the bands are at 9:30/blackcat and such because I'm old
but the first time I've ever heard the names of the acts below is when I looked at the calendar
anyone going to these shows

Ashnikko
Zhu
The Midnight
Daniel Caesar
Reneé Rapp
Tinashe & Shygirl
6LACK
Teddy Swims
Ice Nine Kills & In This Moment
Hatsune Miku


Hatsune Miku is a music software developed by Crypton Future Media, INC., which enables anyone to make their computer sing by entering lyrics and melodies. As a massive number of users created music using the software and posted their works on the Internet, Hatsune Miku quickly evolved into a cultural phenomenon. Since then, Hatsune Miku has gained much attention as a character, involved in many fields such as merchandising and live performance as a virtual singer
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on September 19, 2023, 11:40:17 am
I first heard of 6lack about a year ago and really liked his stuff.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on September 19, 2023, 01:03:48 pm
I first heard of 6lack about a year ago and really liked his stuff.

You forgot to log into your killsally account.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on September 19, 2023, 04:14:23 pm
Renee Rapp is the blonde on Sex Lives Of College Girls. She starred in the Broadway production of Mean Girls, and sold out the Anthem before her first and only album was actually released.

Maybe you should ask your kids about her.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on September 19, 2023, 04:15:04 pm
Another artist gets pissed about merch sales.

https://dcist.com/story/23/09/18/wolf-trap-tomberlin-show-merchandise-fees/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Cock Van Der Palm on September 19, 2023, 05:20:03 pm
Seth just increased his take to 30% to keep up with the Joneses
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 19, 2023, 05:20:49 pm
Renee Rapp is the blonde on Sex Lives Of College Girls.
interesting..I love that show and had no idea
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on September 19, 2023, 05:50:50 pm
Seth just increased his take to 30% to keep up with the Joneses

LOL. It's a good thing neither Frightened Rabbit nor the White Rabbits are around anymore. God only knows what he's do to them.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on September 19, 2023, 05:51:55 pm
Renee Rapp is the blonde on Sex Lives Of College Girls.
interesting..I love that show and had no idea

Space... the guy who doesn't know the Skins changed their name or were sold, but knows the entire bio of Renee Rapp.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on September 19, 2023, 08:10:27 pm
Renee Rapp is the blonde on Sex Lives Of College Girls.
interesting..I love that show and had no idea

Space... the guy who doesn't know the Skins changed their name or were sold, but knows the entire bio of Renee Rapp.

I live with a teenage girl and her mother who wishes she was one. Not much sports on this house.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 19, 2023, 08:18:40 pm
Renee Rapp is the blonde on Sex Lives Of College Girls.
interesting..I love that show and had no idea

Space... the guy who doesn't know the Skins changed their name or were sold, but knows the entire bio of Renee Rapp.

I live with a teenage girl and her mother who wishes she was one. Not much sports on this house.
I live with two teenage girls and based on my musical choices, their father wishes he was one...
there were never sports on in our house...well the Viagara boys are on heavy rotation
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on September 19, 2023, 10:16:38 pm
Renee Rapp is the blonde on Sex Lives Of College Girls.
interesting..I love that show and had no idea

Space... the guy who doesn't know the Skins changed their name or were sold, but knows the entire bio of Renee Rapp.

I live with a teenage girl and her mother who wishes she was one. Not much sports on this house.

I live in a home with three females and watch less than a few hours of sports a year...I'd say you're in the 1% of functional DMVers that didn't know the team was now the salamanders.  There's even a thread on this forum about it.

I'll give you a pass on the sale of the team.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on September 20, 2023, 07:38:36 pm
For hutch

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-lists/best-latin-american-rock-albums-1234818717/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 20, 2023, 08:19:52 pm
Who had the return of quadraphonic on their bingo card?

https://x.com/rhino_records/status/1704638088214139175?s=46&t=81bsTFbar0Jl_mHBl9WnuA
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on September 20, 2023, 08:42:45 pm
Who had the return of quadraphonic on their bingo card?

https://x.com/rhino_records/status/1704638088214139175?s=46&t=81bsTFbar0Jl_mHBl9WnuA

I think this is the first time those records are available in a discrete 4-channel format that's not 8-track tape.

Quad 8-tracks presented albums as they were on vinyl: two distinct programs of tracks, i.e. sides. No ka-chunking in the middle of a song or rearranging the tracks. But 8-track quality still sucked.

Quad vinyl was never discrete. The "normal" stereo mix was in the grooves, then out-of-phase mixes were matrixed on a carrier signal (like radio) in the 40kHz band (depending on the quad format, of which there were a few competing and incompatible ones). The quad receiver then dissected and mixed these signals to put out four channels, with lots of crosstalk. Voila, quadrophonic music....

I know all this because my dad was a big believer in it.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on September 20, 2023, 08:50:42 pm
What to know about Sufjan Stevens’s Guillain-Barré syndrome diagnosis (https://www.washingtonpost.com/wellness/2023/09/20/sufjan-stevens-guillain-barre-syndrome/)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 21, 2023, 06:31:26 am
Do you remember
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on September 21, 2023, 06:46:02 am
Do you remember

Its written on my birth certificate
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 21, 2023, 10:04:11 am
Do you remember

Its written on my birth certificate

well happy Husker Du? and Birthday to you good sir!

i shall be writing my elected officials to get official proclamations and what not issued
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 22, 2023, 09:41:17 am
Hopefully everyone remembers dancing and falling in love last night and all past and possibly future September 21st  :-*
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on September 22, 2023, 10:16:33 am
I mean, September 22 is a pretty good day too.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 23, 2023, 11:25:32 am
blondie 1968 (not so blond)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/0d/23/07/0d230798bd68a8a2f38ce572d4a73fd2.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 23, 2023, 01:44:44 pm
hmm, I see they can change the order
(https://deadline.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/ac_stop_making_sense_talking_heads_9-19-23_by_jared_cowan_select-17-e1695258819100.jpg?w=300)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on September 23, 2023, 01:52:31 pm
Went and saw Stop Making Sense at the IMAX last night... quite amazing.  I don't think I've watched it in 20+ years.

Also, my new retired pal Bob Boilen sat right in front of me.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on September 23, 2023, 02:38:43 pm
(https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/newspressnow.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/2/99/299fbb25-f51c-5b25-973e-25444d419cf6/650af965155ef.image.jpg?resize=750%2C500)

I hadn't seen one with Chris and David next to each other but I found one.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on September 25, 2023, 12:19:36 pm
Rad zeppelin cover

https://www.instagram.com/p/CxgIfHnyPJA/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 25, 2023, 03:14:45 pm
Hmm...when I go there it say 'video has no sound'
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on September 25, 2023, 04:12:53 pm
Weird. It works on my phone but not on my PC.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Cock Van Der Palm on September 25, 2023, 09:28:42 pm
worked for me on laptop
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 25, 2023, 09:59:32 pm
Uh oh… someone from a society of privileged old white men just called Taylor Swift dumb and that her music sucks

Me thinks they are going to find out very quickly how fast Swifties swing into action
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 26, 2023, 07:27:33 am
Uh oh… someone from a society of privileged old white men just called Taylor Swift dumb and that her music sucks

Me thinks they are going to find out very quickly how fast Swifties swing into action
I dunno, this guy makes a compelling argument
https://thefoodandrant.wordpress.com/2010/08/16/swiftrant-10-reasons-why-taylor-swift-sucks/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 26, 2023, 10:22:38 am
Uh oh… someone from a society of privileged old white men just called Taylor Swift dumb and that her music sucks

Me thinks they are going to find out very quickly how fast Swifties swing into action
I dunno, this guy makes a compelling argument
https://thefoodandrant.wordpress.com/2010/08/16/swiftrant-10-reasons-why-taylor-swift-sucks/
dude, I get all my musical advice from the Federalist, I mean they were the first to show the greatness of crazytown
https://thefederalist.com/2023/09/05/taylor-swifts-popularity-is-a-sign-of-societal-decline/

wow, he even took a swing at Olivia Rodrigo
dang "lesser pop stars from previous generations such as Phil Collins, or pop stars I don’t personally care that much for, such as Madonna"
so he's saying both of those examples are lesser pop stars...showing he knows absolutely nothing about Pop

the whole thing is "classic rock done by dudes is the only music worth listening to"
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 26, 2023, 11:27:47 am
Then  boy am I ever getting it wrong these days as a mediocre white male

And it’s just scandalous that every damn year Paul Rodgers gets snubbed by the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and some non rock artists gets in.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on September 26, 2023, 03:34:12 pm
the whole thing is "classic rock done by dudes is the only music worth listening to"

i've got a book to recommend...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 26, 2023, 03:44:27 pm
the whole thing is "classic rock done by dudes is the only music worth listening to"

i've got a book to recommend...

POTW due to next level snark
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 28, 2023, 12:34:06 am
It's not often you get a secretary of state who plays a strat
https://x.com/SecBlinken/status/1707230831528620109?s=20
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on September 28, 2023, 02:58:55 pm
It's not often you get a secretary of state who plays a strat
https://x.com/SecBlinken/status/1707230831528620109?s=20

LEFTY ALERT

(a les paul would have been more int'l diplomacy in my books...)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Space Freely on September 28, 2023, 03:15:58 pm
It's not often you get a secretary of state who plays a strat
https://x.com/SecBlinken/status/1707230831528620109?s=20

LEFTY ALERT

(a les paul would have been more int'l diplomacy in my books...)

This was my thought too. Whose the white haired guy he is playing with.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 29, 2023, 05:05:27 am
Man cave audio enthusiasts can finally rest easy as Aja has finally been released in HiRez… gotta have something to listen to on all that expensive gear
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on September 29, 2023, 09:16:12 am
also out today is a new Steven Wilson who I believe is catnip for the "Still Listens To Steely Dan" crowd

i stick with a marvelous new single from Dee C. Lee(The Style Council), and albums from Say She She, The Sextones, Don Letts and Vistas thank you very much
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 03, 2023, 01:21:15 pm
Don’t play the hits! Rarities are one of the great joys of live music (https://www.theguardian.com/music/2023/oct/03/bands-playing-rarities-from-their-back-catalogues-is-electrifying-live-music-again)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on October 03, 2023, 03:34:45 pm
Don’t play the hits! Rarities are one of the great joys of live music (https://www.theguardian.com/music/2023/oct/03/bands-playing-rarities-from-their-back-catalogues-is-electrifying-live-music-again)

I prefer covers.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 03, 2023, 07:09:53 pm
(https://preview.redd.it/0vf54o8hunrb1.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=4ab8c390591fcbce98ee53997d716462dfbd7d68)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on October 10, 2023, 10:22:01 am
Today I did learned that Voice of the Beehive did in fact want to do it with the Barbarian in that back of the car.  The bleep left it vague, but a live version included on the “Let It Bee” reissue cleared up that mystery  :D
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on October 10, 2023, 12:47:05 pm
Today I did learned that Voice of the Beehive did in fact want to do it with the Barbarian in that back of the car.  The bleep left it vague, but a live version included on the “Let It Bee” reissue cleared up that mystery  :D

My CD isn't bleeped. (https://www.discogs.com/release/1739306-Voice-Of-The-Beehive-Let-It-Bee)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on October 10, 2023, 01:44:15 pm
Don’t be harshing my buzz with your facts..
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on October 10, 2023, 02:10:21 pm
You and yr vinyls
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on October 12, 2023, 12:18:32 pm
(https://i.ibb.co/JRYyR7w/Screenshot-2023-10-12-at-12-16-55-PM.png) (https://twitter.com/Design_Assassin/status/1712477245263249676)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on October 16, 2023, 02:52:32 pm
so this video has been making the rounds and is worth 8:45 of your time: Chad Smith Hears Thirty Seconds To Mars For The First Time (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMBRjo33cUE).  the video has generated a whole ecosystem of reaction videos (https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=chad+smith+thirty+seconds+to+mars+reaction) by musicians and music teachers that universally praise the performance.

i know, i know, haters gonna say "turrible drummer on a turrible song"... but give it a chance.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hutch on October 16, 2023, 03:30:04 pm
How do you know it’s worth my time?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on October 16, 2023, 03:34:48 pm
How do you know it’s worth my time?

in my opinion it is... sorry, didn't call out "IMO", thought it was obvious...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hutch on October 16, 2023, 04:03:02 pm
I just have zero interest in mouse on Mars or RHCP so I don’t think it’s worth my time….

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 16, 2023, 04:38:52 pm
8:45 is a big ask
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on October 16, 2023, 05:19:43 pm
30 seconds to Mars is horrific with RHCP not far behind, but that was worth watching... and Chad Smith is likable.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on October 16, 2023, 07:49:55 pm
I just have zero interest in mouse on Mars

dunno if that was on purpose or a subconscious slip, but mouse on mars (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mouse_on_Mars) is a german electronic duo who had their heyday in the late 90's and early 00's that are worth checking out if you're into eclectic german electronica.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hutch on October 16, 2023, 08:38:56 pm
It’s too late for me I am afraid.

Save yourselves if you haven’t heard mouse on Mars yet!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on October 16, 2023, 09:30:50 pm
That whole drum channel is quite entertaining... just watched the megadeath/killers episode.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hutch on October 16, 2023, 09:41:20 pm
It’s Megadeth!!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on October 16, 2023, 10:12:55 pm
It’s Megadeth!!

100,000 times worse than Decadeath!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on October 16, 2023, 11:26:56 pm
That whole drum channel is quite entertaining... just watched the megadeath/killers episode.

agreed.  what a great concept: have a drummer improv a part upon first listen.  i wonder if there are any attempts that got left on the cutting room floor, i.e. the drummer couldn't pull together something decent.  i have to imagine the drummer has right of refusal (aka veto on airing a shitty attempt).
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on October 17, 2023, 06:09:39 am
 I learned from the Wikipedia that the Guilty bit in Erasure’s “Drama!” was provided by Scottish band the Jesus and Mary Chain, who were recording in the studio next door.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on October 17, 2023, 07:50:57 am
Oasis reunion is status Definitely Maybe with Liam announcing a run of UK dates celebrating the 30th Anniversary for the  album.  Noel has probably sacked his entire management team for allowing Liam to be him to the punch on this one. 
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hutch on October 17, 2023, 01:00:08 pm
Funflation

https://www.wsj.com/economy/consumers/its-getting-too-expensive-to-have-fun-a59e9df8
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on October 17, 2023, 02:08:49 pm
Funflation

https://www.wsj.com/economy/consumers/its-getting-too-expensive-to-have-fun-a59e9df8

And that was well before last year's mini inflation crisis (which some people still believe is happening because prices haven't deflated).
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on October 24, 2023, 11:22:24 am
Apparently there is a joint record with Liam Gallagher and John Squire in the works to be released next year.. Liam has just declared it the best album since “Revolver”

As someone pointed out

"Joint" might be the operative word here

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on October 24, 2023, 02:42:32 pm
WTOP article ‘Explosion’ of deer population could lead to more crashes next month (https://wtop.com/local/2023/10/slam-your-brakes-explosion-of-deer-population-could-lead-to-more-crashes-next-month/), reminded me that there was a band called Exploding White Mice (https://www.discogs.com/artist/599771-Exploding-White-Mice), and I can't imagine them getting away with that name had they formed in the social media era.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 26, 2023, 10:33:25 am
The four-part series, titled Geddy Lee Asks: Are Bass Players Human Too? (https://consequence.net/2023/10/geddy-lee-paramount-docuseries)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on October 27, 2023, 08:08:16 pm
You know what's a good album? Sea of Cowards by Dead Weather. That's a good album.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hutch on October 27, 2023, 08:40:48 pm
You know what's a good album? Sea of Cowards by Dead Weather. That's a good album.

Truth
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on October 27, 2023, 08:43:00 pm
I wish they'd tour again. Will probably see The Kills as a holdover.

I guess Olivia Jean may not appreciate that. Will also see her Tuesday.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 06, 2023, 12:14:48 pm
TIL that there was a lead singer in AC/DC before Bon...Dave Evans
(https://greenandblackmusic.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/dave-evans-acdc.jpg)

https://youtu.be/biaGJ_4rEzE?si=kmsnC2g0N4xiyUDk
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hutch on November 06, 2023, 12:16:22 pm
Geezus they look so bad in that picture…
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 06, 2023, 12:20:40 pm
Geezus they look so bad in that picture…
they kinda wanted to be The Sweet it looks and sounded like
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on November 06, 2023, 12:29:29 pm
speaking of 70s band photo, here's a roundup of Scandinavian  groups

https://twitter.com/PulpLibrarian/status/1721201243215798501
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Cock Van Der Palm on November 06, 2023, 04:04:12 pm
Nice! Now that is how bands should dress!

speaking of 70s band photo, here's a roundup of Scandinavian  groups

https://twitter.com/PulpLibrarian/status/1721201243215798501
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on November 07, 2023, 01:35:30 pm
Rumblings of a Neil Young "Love Earth" tour next summer...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: evilizac on November 08, 2023, 10:43:29 am
Q: Should I see Dylan Meyerhoff?? I have seen him in like 2004, at I think it was George Mason. My wife has never seen him and is aware of his current "sound".
Q2:I like a lot of his late-era work, how does he deliver live on it at this point?
Q3+: He's doing two nights, is one likely to be better than the other? Is he more likely to be less into a second night, or is it more of a situation that they'll have fully dialed in the sound on night two? (I'm really just trying to avoid an afternoon drive from College Park to Baltimore).
Meyerhoff Q: I assume they don't really have a large A/V setup thus, what sections are the best value for $$$?
 

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hutch on November 08, 2023, 10:45:25 am
I always think second nights tend to be better…..
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 08, 2023, 02:16:59 pm
dang, didn't know Shane MacGowan was hospitalised for encephalitis earlier this year and is still in bad shape
hope he pulls through
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Bagley on November 08, 2023, 06:31:26 pm
Q: Should I see Dylan Meyerhoff?? I have seen him in like 2004, at I think it was George Mason. My wife has never seen him and is aware of his current "sound".
Q2:I like a lot of his late-era work, how does he deliver live on it at this point?
Q3+: He's doing two nights, is one likely to be better than the other? Is he more likely to be less into a second night, or is it more of a situation that they'll have fully dialed in the sound on night two? (I'm really just trying to avoid an afternoon drive from College Park to Baltimore).
Meyerhoff Q: I assume they don't really have a large A/V setup thus, what sections are the best value for $$$?

Q1-Yes,  expect him on piano for the most part.  Caution:  some folks aren't fans of his phrasing-I like it as long has he brings the energy.  He'll make one of his standards sound new!

Q2- He's playing 9 songs from the new record and then a smattering..Basically the same list every night i.e. https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/bob-dylan/2023/capitol-theatre-port-chester-ny-43a1a30f.html.  If you're a Grateful Dead fan, he's got three of their songs in the rotation.

Q3-Agree with Hutch^and Saturday works better for me.

Q3-approx. $2,500 capacity; any seat's a good one


Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on November 09, 2023, 10:52:09 am
Maybe of interest onlyto Justin, but recently released

The Sum of Our Wounds (Cassette Recordings 1973​-​85)- Martin Rev

https://martin-rev.bandcamp.com/album/the-sum-of-our-wounds-cassette-recordings-1973-85

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on November 09, 2023, 10:55:06 am
Maybe of interest onlyto Justin, but recently released

The Sum of Our Wounds (Cassette Recordings 1973​-​85)- Martin Rev

https://martin-rev.bandcamp.com/album/the-sum-of-our-wounds-cassette-recordings-1973-85

I can't possibly be the only Suicide fan on this board.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on November 09, 2023, 10:55:49 am
Maybe of interest onlyto Justin, but recently released

The Sum of Our Wounds (Cassette Recordings 1973​-​85)- Martin Rev

https://martin-rev.bandcamp.com/album/the-sum-of-our-wounds-cassette-recordings-1973-85

I can't possibly be the only Suicide fan on this board.

They're a dying breed.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: evilizac on November 09, 2023, 01:42:27 pm
Q1-Yes,  expect him on piano for the most part.  Caution:  some folks aren't fans of his phrasing-I like it as long has he brings the energy.  He'll make one of his standards sound new!

Q2- He's playing 9 songs from the new record and then a smattering..Basically the same list every night i.e. https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/bob-dylan/2023/capitol-theatre-port-chester-ny-43a1a30f.html.  If you're a Grateful Dead fan, he's got three of their songs in the rotation.

Q3-Agree with Hutch^and Saturday works better for me.

Q3-approx. $2,500 capacity; any seat's a good one

I do find it ironic that some folks, friends of mine, who have seen him in the past ten or so years, complain that he sounds bad and you can't tell what songs he's playing. I think that besides his songwriting, he's always been known as an idiosyncratic interpreter of both his and other people's songs. As for his voice, I get how that can be a slap in the senses if you're completely unaware of how his voice has changed since even the 80s. If for a listener, he's a Classic Rock act, resigned to his Classic Rock era, then of course you're setting yourself up for disappointment. I think that my wife's only disappointment is that he probably won't play Maggie's Farm.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on November 09, 2023, 01:53:23 pm
he sounds bad and you can't tell what songs he's playing...I think that my wife's only disappointment is that he probably won't play Maggie's Farm.

It doesn't matter. You won't be able to tell.

Seriously. Don't go. It's bad.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 09, 2023, 02:23:51 pm
I think that my wife's only disappointment is that he probably won't play Maggie's Farm.
he did just play it a few weeks ago...but that was rare for over a decade
https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/bob-dylan/2023/ruoff-music-center-noblesville-in-3ba39404.html

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Bagley on November 09, 2023, 02:32:51 pm
you never know...you may not have the opportunity again
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hutch on November 09, 2023, 04:38:55 pm
Doh! I thought there was an artist named Dylan Meyerhoff! Sorry, been a long week.

I would strongly advise you go. Don’t believe the naysayers….in Dylan terms he is singing more clearly than in decades…just listen to Rough and Rowdy Ways before you go…you will enjoy it unless you are expecting his 60s hits

Obviously at this point every tour could be the final one..physically he is more frail and all on stage…
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hutch on November 09, 2023, 04:57:45 pm
Basically the band is playing a bit lower volume and this helps Dylan’s vocals be more clear.

I do not see Bob touring into his 90s like Willie.

He is 82 and a half!

This is it.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 11, 2023, 03:19:13 pm
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/387/656/efb.jpg)

Fun fact: Denver wrote the song while in Georgetown
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hutch on November 11, 2023, 04:14:14 pm
I think Bill Danoff wrote it mostly….

Danoff also wrote Afternoon delight
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on November 14, 2023, 11:59:46 am
How not for me to care about your musical output, announce an album to be released in January 2025...

I had done a courtesy re-follow on bluesky for a musician who just announced this, needless to say i've unfollowed them.. they were a bit annoying honestly tbh
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 16, 2023, 11:40:22 am
Just here to drop a shot of a teenaged Dr. John sporting a guitar (which he would play with professor longhair when he was like 15!)
(https://preview.redd.it/1xsgkzzud2e41.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=0d00f267e9582420243e4dc810ec11af95c73905)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on November 16, 2023, 01:34:39 pm
I guess the whole try to come up with a unique name for your group is really gone by the wayside... I noted awhile back the numerous Birthday Girl groups on Bandcamp.  Today i see around 20 groups going by (The) Dream Machine on Bandcamp, three in the Netherlands alone.  I guess as long as one is in a different genre/city/country it's all fair game...  At least we have Wet Dream Machine out of Eugene Oregon, not feeling to need to verify if there is only one by that name  ;D
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on November 22, 2023, 05:22:39 pm
Those wacky The Hives are seeking to franchise themselves out so local cover bands can preform as them around the world.. I have a buddy who could be totally up for that
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 24, 2023, 11:14:06 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F_tTMZtXYAAhqLj?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on November 24, 2023, 11:56:38 am
Okay, dude, here's your new part. It shows 82 bars of whole rests and has three page turns but at least you don't have to count anymore, right?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on November 24, 2023, 03:43:37 pm
FFS...

An Avett Brothers musical is testing the waters. Next stop: Broadway?  (https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/theater/2023/11/24/avett-brothers-swept-away/)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 24, 2023, 05:29:41 pm
Places Johnny Cash has visited base on his song 'I’ve Been Everywhere'
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F_Fkg64XIAE5cuP?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on November 27, 2023, 11:49:09 am
Anyone remember when The Go played the Black Cat?  They didn't headline and I can't remember who all played that night, possibly the Melvins. I'm trying to figure if Jack White was still in the group at that point, or did he leave after the album "Wathcha Doin' was released.
 
I swear I talked to Jack that night not realizing it was him. I wasn't aware he was with The Go as well as The White Strips since they were also taking off in 1999.   

anyways, I found the couple of albums after "Wathcha Doin" hit or miss, but was listening to their fourth "Howl On The Haunted Beat You Ride" today and it's nice collection of Nuggets inspired 60's psychedelic

https://listentothego.bandcamp.com/album/howl-on-the-haunted-beat-you-ride

hard to tell if the are still active or not, last ablum from them out in 2013
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 28, 2023, 11:43:00 am
TIL that Vacation, the seminal song by the Go-Gos
 was originally released by the bassist in a slightly different version with her first band
 Kathy Valentine was in the Textones in 1980 before joining the Go-Gos


https://youtu.be/8N-zJirmLzo?si=Nn9FEzNGJnVxvCau
Not as great as Vacation, but you can hear just about everything that makes the one you know a classic
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on December 04, 2023, 11:49:02 am
Q: Should I see Dylan Meyerhoff?? I have seen him in like 2004, at I think it was George Mason. My wife has never seen him and is aware of his current "sound".
Q2:I like a lot of his late-era work, how does he deliver live on it at this point?
Q3+: He's doing two nights, is one likely to be better than the other? Is he more likely to be less into a second night, or is it more of a situation that they'll have fully dialed in the sound on night two? (I'm really just trying to avoid an afternoon drive from College Park to Baltimore).
Meyerhoff Q: I assume they don't really have a large A/V setup thus, what sections are the best value for $$$?
 



This guy weighs in:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Music/s/GpCQDSuSS5
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on December 05, 2023, 05:04:21 pm
Technically this is a re-issue but to lazy to find the thread

This is one for the Sonic Youth completist in your life.. It’s something their UK manager at the time released and was quickly pulled and now seriously sought after and bootlegged.  Sonic Youth are giving it an official release.

Walls Have Ears

https://sonicyouth.bandcamp.com/album/walls-have-ears

“Culled from three 1985 gigs in the UK during a transitional and transcendent time in the band’s story, Sonic Youth’s ‘Walls Have Ears’ appeared as a 2LP set in 1986, not just a live album but an artful tapestry full of live experimentation with songs, between-song tape segues, darkness, humor and audio verité on par with elements of side B of ‘Master Dik’ to come later. With a bit of complexity to the situation of the release itself. Deleted as quickly as it appeared, it’s now issued for the first time officially under the band’s auspices.”

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hutch on December 05, 2023, 05:29:43 pm
I don’t know any Sonic Youth completists…
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on December 07, 2023, 09:53:43 am
No Blur US tour, I'm blaming Biden and therefore will not be voting for him
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hutch on December 07, 2023, 09:56:35 am
I blame Biden for the Beatles breaking up. Therefore I cannot vote for him….

Luckily there are so many other great candidates….
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on December 09, 2023, 02:03:25 pm
https://www.mensjournal.com/news/bono-surprises-chicago-bar-patrons-christmas-carols
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on December 09, 2023, 03:22:59 pm
https://www.mensjournal.com/news/bono-surprises-chicago-bar-patrons-christmas-carols
To be fair, Bono assuming everyone in a bar would like him to get up and start singing Christmas carols despite no one asking him to do so very, very, very much tracks.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hutch on December 09, 2023, 05:56:06 pm
It’s hard to finish Bono’s autobiography
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on December 09, 2023, 07:10:46 pm
It’s hard to finish Bono’s autobiography
If you think that’s bad, try any of his songs written in the last thirty years.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on December 09, 2023, 09:03:11 pm
It’s hard to finish Bono’s autobiography
If you think that’s bad, try any of his songs written in the last thirty years.

BOOM!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 09, 2023, 09:36:34 pm
I'm just thankful he wasn't singing at Shane's funeral
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hutch on December 10, 2023, 04:26:15 am
It’s easy to slag Bono…he makes it easy…

Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on December 15, 2023, 10:05:57 am
For sideDub

https://www.stereogum.com/2245608/sublime-bradley-nowell-son-jakob-video/news/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 15, 2023, 10:16:50 am
For sideDub

https://www.stereogum.com/2245608/sublime-bradley-nowell-son-jakob-video/news/
I did see that, but unlike the Lumineeers (ha) I don't really like sublime
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Bagley on December 20, 2023, 01:03:35 pm
Rumors of a Dead & Co (w/Mayer) residency at the Sphere ::)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on December 20, 2023, 02:03:29 pm
Rumors of a Dead & Co (w/Mayer) residency at the Sphere ::)

Shortest break ever!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hutch on December 20, 2023, 02:42:15 pm
Must be hard to resist all that money….

I never understood why they said they were breaking up….they really made inroads with a whole new generation
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hutch on December 20, 2023, 02:48:21 pm
Wow…7 out of the next 9 events at the club are dance parties
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on December 20, 2023, 04:03:22 pm
Wow…7 out of the next 9 events at the club are dance parties
This feels like a slow time of year for touring. Don't most bands want to be with their families/friends this time of year, not on the road.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hutch on December 20, 2023, 04:06:12 pm
Yeah I know…
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hutch on December 20, 2023, 04:19:29 pm
I hope I see more shows in 2024…has potential with Ride/Charlatans in January, Cat Power, Echo and the Bunnymen and Belle and Sebastian already on the calendar
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 20, 2023, 09:20:39 pm
I hope I see more shows in 2024…has potential with Ride/Charlatans in January, Cat Power, Echo and the Bunnymen and Belle and Sebastian already on the calendar
Looking forward to echo
Did you get DJ shadow tix?  Somehow I doubt it will sell out
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hutch on December 20, 2023, 09:39:27 pm
Did not….will be a game time decision
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Cock Van Der Palm on December 21, 2023, 12:39:31 am
Looking for E&BM if anyone has extras

Did not….will be a game time decision
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on December 21, 2023, 08:37:09 am
 More info on the Gallagher Squire album

The Guardian was given an early listen to the LP. With an appealingly raw, crunching and immediate production sound, the energised songs are at the heavy end of Britpop with stomping rhythms, burly riffs and poignant, brightly melodious top lines. Blues, garage and psych-rock are also major components, and unsurprisingly, the Beatles are a touchstone, namely the pop-psychedelia of their post-Revolver period.

Also,

The first single, Just Another Rainbow – which somewhat evokes the Stone Roses’ Waterfall and has a funky, spirited solo from Squire

Demos were worked up in Squire’s Macclesfield studio before full sessions in Los Angeles. Superproducer and pop songwriter Greg Kurstin plays bass, with Joey Waronker on drums – as well as playing with REM and Beck, Waronker is a supergroup veteran, having played in Atoms for Peace with Thom Yorke, Flea and others.

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2023/dec/21/liam-gallagher-and-the-stone-roses-john-squire-album
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hutch on December 21, 2023, 11:38:13 am
I think this match could work….I hope they tour
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on December 21, 2023, 02:51:14 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GBzoGaqW4AAjIcH?format=jpg&name=large)

Fascinating Twitter thread that talks about the image above (https://twitter.com/robmanuel/status/1737519063067246818)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on January 02, 2024, 01:06:51 pm
Rumors of a Dead & Co (w/Mayer) residency at the Sphere ::)

Shortest break ever!
Must be hard to resist all that money….

I never understood why they said they were breaking up….they really made inroads with a whole new generation

D&C in May 2024 The Sphere. (https://www.facebook.com/groups/1515697192170139/permalink/1636759696730554/?mibextid=xfxF2i)

short run for Phish, then...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on January 02, 2024, 01:27:35 pm
Rumors of a Dead & Co (w/Mayer) residency at the Sphere ::)

Shortest break ever!
Must be hard to resist all that money….

I never understood why they said they were breaking up….they really made inroads with a whole new generation

D&C in May 2024 The Sphere. (https://www.facebook.com/groups/1515697192170139/permalink/1636759696730554/?mibextid=xfxF2i)

short run for Phish, then...

they were never playing more than four shows...this year.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 02, 2024, 01:36:03 pm
they were never playing more than four shows...this year.
as implied, I'm sure this will become an annual occurrence
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Hutch on January 02, 2024, 02:00:34 pm
I know things changed a long time ago but man the contrast between 60s Vegas and now

Someone should make a meme with the rat pack in tuxes on one side and a bunch of scuzzy hippies on the other
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on January 02, 2024, 02:44:27 pm
they were never playing more than four shows...this year.
as implied, I'm sure this will become an annual occurrence

I'm sure as well... but I also fear the end is nigh.

I know things changed a long time ago but man the contrast between 60s Vegas and now

Someone should make a meme with the rat pack in tuxes on one side and a bunch of scuzzy hippies on the other

Except the amount of "hippies" that attend Phish or Dead concerts is practically nil these days... especially in Vegas. Replace the rat pack with a bunch of waxed chest meatballs.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on January 02, 2024, 02:49:51 pm
pray for my soul about to listen to band whose profile says Jangly emo mathy power pop
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 02, 2024, 03:25:52 pm
pray for my soul about to listen to band whose profile says Jangly emo mathy power pop
there is no redemption once you cross that line

Replace the rat pack with a bunch of waxed chest meatballs.
can confirm, but that's a great description!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 02, 2024, 03:40:37 pm
this is an excellent breakdown of this song and great visuals
I had no idea what some of the lyrics were and what they were talking about
all the background of the making of it are vital

https://youtu.be/-iehuh4Qx9c
An Ode to “Sister Ray”: The Velvet Underground At Their Most Violent
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on January 02, 2024, 03:47:08 pm
this is an excellent breakdown of this song and great visuals
I had no idea what some of the lyrics were and what they were talking about
all the background of the making of it are vital

https://youtu.be/-iehuh4Qx9c
An Ode to “Sister Ray”: The Velvet Underground At Their Most Violent

Speakin' of The Velvet Underground and forum favorite, Luna... there's some great footage going around of their VU NYE Set.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on January 03, 2024, 01:03:45 pm
Theo Lengyel, once an integral member of the avant-garde jazz-metal group Mr. Bungle, is now a murder suspect accused of killing his girlfriend.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on January 03, 2024, 02:33:49 pm
Theo Lengyel, once an integral member of the avant-garde jazz-metal group Mr. Bungle, is now a murder suspect accused of killing his girlfriend.
I really hope this is not going to sully the otherwise pristine reputation of avant-garde jazz metal musicians everywhere as a result.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on January 05, 2024, 09:29:47 am
Cock news

https://www.jambase.com/article/billy-strings-ai-artwork-merch-controversy#
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 07, 2024, 09:49:35 am
I didn't realize I was playing it wrong the whole time, what great album art

(https://external-preview.redd.it/jSH9PIwglXDiaN31RYBqT9_0XbtWtLaIBlYSxCRmynU.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=ff207bdd545edb8f24ba5e1d358df0284afa0b5f)

it's real too
https://www.discogs.com/release/5670371-Wasnatch-Front-To-Back
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 07, 2024, 10:08:38 am
this is awesome, in case anyone wondered what Mick Jones was doing in 74
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FVnCamUXwAEbRO1?format=jpg&name=medium)
https://x.com/NewWaveAndPunk/status/1538474511963676673?s=20
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on January 07, 2024, 10:59:56 am
I didn't realize I was playing it wrong the whole time, what great album art

(https://external-preview.redd.it/jSH9PIwglXDiaN31RYBqT9_0XbtWtLaIBlYSxCRmynU.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=ff207bdd545edb8f24ba5e1d358df0284afa0b5f)

it's real too
https://www.discogs.com/release/5670371-Wasnatch-Front-To-Back

Old joke:
A girl went out on a date with a trumpet player, and when she came back her roommate asked... (https://www.mit.edu/people/jcb/jokes/french_horn.html)

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/KInzY7itSaA/maxresdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 07, 2024, 11:15:12 am

Old joke:
url=https://www.mit.edu/people/jcb/jokes/french_horn.html
MIT, are we sure these weren't plagiarized!!!
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 10, 2024, 11:09:27 pm
whoa, mick jones straps on a guitar and gets behind a mic
https://youtu.be/3wU65Ka0Lq8?si=dfgz-fmpJHGHhXAw (new link, FB didn't have any details)
Where was this, a local library

I wish he would tour, one of my biggest regrets is not catching B.A.D.

edit false alarm this was almost 15 years ago
and it was at a library
Public Library, Portobello Green, London - 22/08/09

On a related note, someone made a mix of just mick songs
https://youtu.be/7mEvBrVw0Z4?si=ej8miAEuftuGZ6W2
top notch stuff
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on January 11, 2024, 01:35:37 pm
On a related note, someone made a mix of just mick songs
https://youtu.be/7mEvBrVw0Z4?si=ej8miAEuftuGZ6W2
top notch stuff

nice recovery (attempt)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Cock Van Der Palm on January 11, 2024, 02:55:39 pm
I saw BAD at Hammerjacks in Baltimore.  Fun show. I regret not seeing the Clash. 


whoa, mick jones straps on a guitar and gets behind a mic
https://youtu.be/3wU65Ka0Lq8?si=dfgz-fmpJHGHhXAw (new link, FB didn't have any details)
Where was this, a local library

I wish he would tour, one of my biggest regrets is not catching B.A.D.

edit false alarm this was almost 15 years ago
and it was at a library
Public Library, Portobello Green, London - 22/08/09

On a related note, someone made a mix of just mick songs
https://youtu.be/7mEvBrVw0Z4?si=ej8miAEuftuGZ6W2
top notch stuff
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Justin Tonation on January 13, 2024, 03:11:40 pm
Long read but worthwhile if you're into home audio. Or family drama.

(https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/T2PXK5WEZYI6XCNEW6XCFKQZHY.jpg&high_res=true&w=2048)

He spent his life building a $1 million stereo. The real cost was unfathomable. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/style/interactive/2024/ken-fritz-greatest-stereo-auction-cost/?itid=mr_1)
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on January 15, 2024, 12:33:50 pm
Are there literally no shows tonight? The only listing I've found is the Rocknoscerous show that started 1/2 hour ago. ☹

OTOH, I did stumble across Albert Lee at Jammin Java this Thursday
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on January 16, 2024, 09:13:54 pm
Not as cool as winning a ticket to every 930 show... but free tickets to a bunch of other venues.

https://app.hive.co/l/3u3x89
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 17, 2024, 07:49:42 am
^cool

Also I guess no bordie won the 9:30 food drive  lottery

Was it announced yet?
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on January 19, 2024, 09:34:14 am
https://www.brooklynvegan.com/this-town-new-bbc-drama-set-during-2-tone-ska-scene-from-peaky-blinders-coming-soon/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on January 19, 2024, 10:20:34 am
Perhaps this will cause hutch to arise from his slumber

They have identified the thatcher whose picture is on cover of Led Zep’s fourth album as Lot Long or sometimes Lot Longyear.

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2023/nov/08/led-zeppelin-iv-cover-photo-revealed-victorian-wiltshire-thatcher

If this doesn’t work I could mention Dolly added 9 tracks to a deluxe version of Rockstar… oopsie   ;D
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on January 19, 2024, 02:59:08 pm
Cloud Rap
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 19, 2024, 11:55:05 pm
umm, so the DJ shadow show sold out
the one that starts at midnight that I bought a ticket to

Well there is a second show was just added ...at 9PM (7pm doors)
rather grumpy about this
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on January 20, 2024, 12:24:42 am
Was rather happy about the early show. Not sure I can make it tho.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on January 20, 2024, 12:47:27 am
She's got hip hop all figured out

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CzwKJEeLht0/?igsh=eHRvZWR2aTA3OGtz
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on January 22, 2024, 04:47:23 pm
this description signals proceed with EXTREME caution

exuberant indie-rock outfit with a sound that combines arty post-punk and prog influences with psychedelic flourishes and funk-rock grooves
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on January 23, 2024, 09:54:10 am
today I learned that Robert Lopez aka El Vez founded and was the singer in The Zeros, but I'll bet hutch knew this already...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Cock Van Der Palm on January 23, 2024, 09:58:54 am
Pretty sure everyone knew that, except Kosmo apparently.

today I learned that Robert Lopez aka El Vez founded and was the singer in The Zeros, but I'll bet hutch knew this already...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on January 23, 2024, 10:28:09 am
Pretty sure everyone knew that, except Kosmo apparently.

today I learned that Robert Lopez aka El Vez founded and was the singer in The Zeros, but I'll bet hutch knew this already...

Actually, I stand corrected Robert was on rhythm guitar and Javier Escovedo was the singer...

anyways here some great rare TV footage of the Zeros from 1977, drummer clearly not into miming so much...

https://youtu.be/bdeGc04sKio
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on January 23, 2024, 11:13:37 am
Pretty sure everyone knew that, except Kosmo apparently.

today I learned that Robert Lopez aka El Vez founded and was the singer in The Zeros, but I'll bet hutch knew this already...

Actually, I stand corrected Robert was on rhythm guitar and Javier Escovedo was the singer...

anyways here some great rare TV footage of the Zeros from 1977, drummer clearly not into miming so much...

https://youtu.be/bdeGc04sKio

I didn't know any of this and I still don't know what you're talking about.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: grateful on January 30, 2024, 09:56:04 pm
Nailed it.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C2kY4_XtoC-/?igsh=NDRsMHQ5ejVsaGgz
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Yada on January 31, 2024, 09:23:05 am
It's safe to say we'll never see this happen..

https://www.stereogum.com/2249760/talking-heads-reportedly-turned-down-80-million-for-short-reunion-tour/news/
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 12, 2024, 07:40:15 pm
The Plimsouls buried at the bottom of that 80s show at the Anthem doesn’t involve Peter Case, just Eddie Munoz the lead guitarist.

Per the Wikipedia

In 2016 Muñoz registered a trademark for the band's name, and has been touring as the Plimsouls without Case, Pahoa, or Ramirez. This was all done without Peter Case’s blessing.
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on February 14, 2024, 02:27:49 am
corporate music is weird.

Alicia Keys' Super Bowl flub already erased from the official record (https://www.avclub.com/alicia-keys-super-bowl-flub-erased-nfl-youtube-1851249768)
Alicia Keys sounded less-than-perfect during the Super Bowl Halftime Show, but you wouldn't know if you watched the YouTube version
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 16, 2024, 11:40:01 am
The Plimsouls buried at the bottom of that 80s show at the Anthem doesn’t involve Peter Case, just Eddie Munoz the lead guitarist.

Per the Wikipedia

In 2016 Muñoz registered a trademark for the band's name, and has been touring as the Plimsouls without Case, Pahoa, or Ramirez. This was all done without Peter Case’s blessing.

welp Mike Skill just announced he is no longer performing live  with the Romantics, but still a member of the band...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on February 21, 2024, 03:43:28 am
i recently bought myself a guitar as a birthday present.  the missus had some... questions about my purchase.  luckily i did my research in advance, and when she questioned my so-called extravagance i quickly pointed out that, while expensive, it wasn't one of the The 14 most expensive guitars of all time (https://www.guitarworld.com/features/most-expensive-guitars-sold-at-auction).  some beauts on that list...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: Cock Van Der Palm on February 21, 2024, 10:47:11 am
What guitar did you buy?

i recently bought myself a guitar as a birthday present.  the missus had some... questions about my purchase.  luckily i did my research in advance, and when she questioned my so-called extravagance i quickly pointed out that, while expensive, it wasn't one of the The 14 most expensive guitars of all time (https://www.guitarworld.com/features/most-expensive-guitars-sold-at-auction).  some beauts on that list...
Title: Re: Musicological banter
Post by: sweetcell on February 21, 2024, 01:27:56 pm
What guitar did you buy?

a used but "excellent condition" (tbd) ESP E-II Eclipse, honey burst with fishmans.  the color & pup combo is rare, i've only ever seen seymour duncans on the honey burst.  also got a deal on a Blackstar HT Club 40 MKIII tube amp, and a ridiculously cheap Line 6 Pod HD as a headphone amp/sim.  stuff arrives on friday.  i've fallen off the musical bus in recent years, looking forward to getting back into long nights of scales and noodling...
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Post by: grateful on February 21, 2024, 01:58:25 pm
looking forward to getting back into long nights of scales and noodling...

Upon clarification, not sure the missus was concerned about the price
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Post by: Cock Van Der Palm on February 21, 2024, 02:24:08 pm
Nice....enjoy!
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Post by: sweetcell on February 21, 2024, 02:50:32 pm
looking forward to getting back into long nights of scales and noodling...

Upon clarification, not sure the missus was concerned about the price

hence the headphone amp
 
Nice....enjoy!

that's the plan  ;D
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Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 22, 2024, 09:08:17 am
He’s heard fuck all he’s just another spunkbubble trying to be cool

Liam Gallagher
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Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 22, 2024, 09:14:35 am
It appears hutch came triumphantly return tomorrow and tell us Told You So about the Gallagher/Squire album 
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Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 22, 2024, 11:54:52 am
It appears hutch came triumphantly return tomorrow and tell us Told You So about the Gallagher/Squire album
dang, they are selling it at walmart, must have gotten a big run
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Liam-Gallagher-John-Squire-Liam-Gallagher-John-Squire-Rock-Vinyl/5303149832
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Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 22, 2024, 02:34:44 pm
I got my dates wrong with the reviews come out I thought the bestest album being released this year is tomorrow.... But, dopey me found out the Squire/Gallagher album is due next week..  so I guess we still have time to crowdfund a vinyl copy for hutch, so he can return to tell tell "I Told You So".
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Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 22, 2024, 03:03:58 pm
Are you implying his ITS will be that the album sucks or that it’s the finest recording this century
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Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 22, 2024, 03:46:02 pm
So based on the review I read that prompted Liam’s spunkbubble jab and that there is a track on it called “Make It  Up As You Go”, pretty sure the reaction will be it’s sucks. 

I remembered we discussed this when it was first announced and actually you sidehustlehatch predicted it would suck... hutch was a tad kinder in his assessment. 

https://forum.930.com/index.php?topic=12734.msg556308#msg556308

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Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 22, 2024, 11:39:47 pm
I did like that first track so I am more optimistic
That it’s at Walmart had me concerned
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Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 22, 2024, 11:52:31 pm
The hives are killing me with their European dates

First it was the Viagria boys double bill

Today they announced a 10+ show run with one of my favorite acts Bad Nerves (new album soon)
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Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 23, 2024, 08:37:15 am
I did like that first track so I am more optimistic
That it’s at Walmart had me concerned

It’s on a major label why wouldn’t it be available from them?  Target has it as well.  Should I be concerned I can order Viagra Boys via Walmart?
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Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 23, 2024, 06:00:08 pm
Should I be concerned I can order Viagra Boys via Walmart?
is that one of the signs of the apocalypse
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Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 28, 2024, 10:09:28 am
Plastic Bertrand admits he did not sing hit single

"Ca plane pour moi" was written by and sung by the producer Lou De Pryck, which was apparently an open secret...

same producer is claiming to have sung on all of Plastic Bertrand's albums from 1977-81, but preformed live by Plastic Bertrand who was considered by the record label a punk figure.
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Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 28, 2024, 12:19:14 pm
If you can’t believe in Plastic Bertrand in this day and age, what Gods are left for us!?
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Post by: kosmo vinyl on February 28, 2024, 01:51:56 pm
this is old news regarding The Supposed King Of The Divan... story came out 14 years ago.. curses you Angry People In Local News for leading me astray...
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Post by: Yada on March 04, 2024, 09:52:23 am
They're just like us

https://twitter.com/consequence/status/1764514808802505053?s=19
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Post by: grateful on March 04, 2024, 10:30:09 am
Is he drinking white wine??
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Post by: More_Coffee on March 04, 2024, 04:06:05 pm
Gallagher/Squire isn't very good. Gallagher really can't sing and not enough Squire guitar goodness.
Overall, it's just boring. Will give it another listen or two, but, it's just not good.
Boring.

I do hope it makes someone else happy.
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Post by: sweetcell on March 05, 2024, 07:47:34 pm
not enough Squire guitar goodness.

not that this will fix the album, but Guitar World just published a wide-ranging interview with Squire (https://www.guitarworld.com/features/john-squire-stone-roses).  talked about all sorts of stuff, not just guitar.
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Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 06, 2024, 07:59:48 am
not enough Squire guitar goodness.

not that this will fix the album, but Guitar World just published a wide-ranging interview with Squire (https://www.guitarworld.com/features/john-squire-stone-roses).  talked about all sorts of stuff, not just guitar.

YouTube to the rescue, the instrumental version of the album

https://youtu.be/Bd-HJGQ_ep0
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Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 06, 2024, 08:06:47 am
not enough Squire guitar goodness.

not that this will fix the album, but Guitar World just published a wide-ranging interview with Squire (https://www.guitarworld.com/features/john-squire-stone-roses).  talked about all sorts of stuff, not just guitar.

YouTube to the rescue, the instrumental version of the album

https://youtu.be/Bd-HJGQ_ep0
Sweet and I was overwhelmed with being underwhelmed
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Post by: Justin Tonation on March 08, 2024, 12:19:23 am
Every Bob Dylan album apparently has a secret subtitle (https://x.com/rayfp/status/1765917853956383024?s=20)

(Twitter link)
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Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 08, 2024, 12:29:23 am
Now the Bad Nerves are opening for the descendants in Spain

We better get a dc date in 2024
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Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 12, 2024, 08:34:03 pm
Neil Young back on Low Res Spotify
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Post by: Yada on March 12, 2024, 09:23:12 pm
Neil Young back on Low Res Spotify


Hmm... I can't seem to find any neil jamz?
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Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 12, 2024, 09:36:04 pm
Neil Young back on Low Res Spotify


Hmm... I can't seem to find any neil jamz?
I didn’t see any either
(Well other than the random stuff that was there before)
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Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 13, 2024, 06:09:47 am
It’s probably in the works.  It’s going back on due to Joe R. no longer being exclusive to Spotify.  His statement was in part


“My decision comes as other music services, Apple, Amazon, Qobuz, Tidal, all high res, have started serving the same disinformation podcast I had opposed at Spotify,” Young wrote to fans on The Neil Young Archives. “Because I cannot leave all those services like I did Spotify, because my music would have no streaming outlet to music lovers at all, I have returned

Of course Qobuz doesn’t host any podcasts
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Post by: methylene blue-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 13, 2024, 09:03:14 am
Greg Abbott Tells Musicians 'Don't Come Back' to Texas

 the festival's impact on the Austin economy in 2022 totaled $280.7 million, according to SXSW


when the culture war get's really stupid and you shoot yourself in the foot
welp that might not be a big deal for abbott..(yes I'm going to burn for that)
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Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 13, 2024, 09:25:20 am
a handful of artists pull out of official SXSW events, hard to say if some are also doing unofficial ones... and abbott feels the need to make a statement... talk about overreacting.. 

I know for sure that 12 acts from Ireland and Northern have cancelled their official showcases, etc  and have seen a couple more make annoucements
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Post by: Bagley on March 13, 2024, 05:32:11 pm
I'd love to catch this....such a great record.  It's getting favorable reviews in NYC.

https://illinoiseonstage.com/
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Post by: grateful on March 16, 2024, 10:59:49 pm
Meet the Kensington Couple Who Broke a Guinness Record Attending Concerts

Matthew and Tijan Brown went to an astounding 135 shows in 2023—without leaving the DMV

https://www.washingtonian.com/2024/03/14/meet-the-kensington-couple-who-broke-a-guinness-record-attending-concerts/
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Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on March 17, 2024, 06:11:04 pm
Meet the Kensington Couple Who Broke a Guinness Record Attending Concerts

Matthew and Tijan Brown went to an astounding 135 shows in 2023—without leaving the DMV

https://www.washingtonian.com/2024/03/14/meet-the-kensington-couple-who-broke-a-guinness-record-attending-concerts/
Doxxing Kosmo and his partner isn’t cool, man.
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Post by: Hutch on March 17, 2024, 10:06:30 pm
Pretty sure that’s Challenged and his partner…
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Post by: grateful on March 18, 2024, 11:41:27 am
Pretty sure that’s Challenged and his partner…

"As for their 2024 plans, they’ve already got tickets to see John Legend a second time, plus Green Day and Paula Abdul."

Checks out.
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Post by: kosmo vinyl on March 18, 2024, 11:42:12 am
first Blur and now Pulp... this biden character..
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Post by: notme on March 18, 2024, 11:17:07 pm
i might have seen that many shows in a year. most are small or free. sometimes 2 or 3 a day. dc mall, millennium stage, another venue = 3 in one day. you could go to 4 millennium stage shows a week for a year and that would be over 200. i think beatle bob would go to a show every day for many years. if you go to sxsw, you could go to 20 different shows/venues a day for 10 days in a row.
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Post by: notme on March 18, 2024, 11:18:19 pm
and what about the guy that won free tix to every 930 show for a year.