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One one hand, he and almost all of his supporters are the kind of people who are wrong about everything, have no idea what's going on, are mad for no real reason, and aren't interested in learning anything.
On the other hand, it might be fun to have a president that just yells and insults people all the time.
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An übermetamegalomaniacal idiot-savant as president. What could go wrong?
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i agree that it would be entertaining as hell, but that will wear off quickly. remember the GW regime: sure, we got bushisms and some zany highlight reels, but the man ruined the economy and dragged us into a pointless and costly war among many other bad things. the joke isn't worth the cost of admission.
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I feel like one of W's problems was that he had an underlying insecurity to him. Remember, before he ran for Texas Gov, he'd largely been a professional failure. So when he becomes leader of a post-9/11 free world, he surrounds himself with strong-willed people who constituted a chorus of "Mr. President, this is your hour" and so he was provided the confidence to make terrible, terrible decisions.
Trump completely follows his own internal compass, and he has demonstrated over and over that his worldview is pragmatic more than anything. The only thing he cares about is doing what it takes to win. He knows how to read his audience and adapt, so when it's kosher, he's pro-choice, pro-universal health care, pro-gun control, but when he needs to appeal to Republican idiots, he's a xenophobic, bible-thumping birther.
So I don't think he's going to launch some ideological battle because he has no ideology. And then he'll start throwing out all kinds of asinine proposals that Congress will shoot down, and then he'll call Boehner a "chain-smoking sunburnt salmon" and Harry Reid will be called a "total loser who couldn't get laid at Dewey Beach on Labor Day" and I will be entertained while everything burns forever.
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Meet your new First Lady:
(http://www.point-spreads.com/images/stories/melania-trump-001.jpg)
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For some reason, I'm getting a "Caitlyn Jindal" vibe from that photo.
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?Go fuck yourselves, the lot of you?you sad, attention grabbing, power-hungry little men. Do not use our music or my voice for your moronic charade of a campaign.??Michael Stipe
R.E.M.
Band issued cease and desist to Donald Trump · 18 hrs ·
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"While we do not authorize or condone the use of our music at this political event, and do ask that these candidates cease and desist from doing so, let us remember that there are things of greater importance at stake here. The media and the American voter should focus on the bigger picture, and not allow grandstanding politicians to distract us from the pressing issues of the day and of the current Presidential campaign.?
-R.E.M.
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"total loser who couldn't get laid at Dewey Beach on Labor Day"
hmm...I had the same problem
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Trump's kind of a sideshow. I think the better story of the primary season is that Hillary Clinton is losing to a 71-year old Socialist in both Iowa and New Hampshire.
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she's #feelingthebern
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"total loser who couldn't get laid at Dewey Beach on Labor Day"
hmm...I had the same problem
You could be president!
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"total loser who couldn't get laid at Dewey Beach on Labor Day"
hmm...I had the same problem
You could be president!
Well, minority leader in the Senate, at least.
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"total loser who couldn't get laid at Dewey Beach on Labor Day"
hmm...I had the same problem
You could be president!
cept I have more skeletons than Vincent Price
and I'm a agnostic existentialist (although thinking of converting to Absurdism)
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Trump's kind of a sideshow. I think the better story of the primary season is that Hillary Clinton is losing to a 71-year old Socialist in both Iowa and New Hampshire.
I agree that the Trump thing looks and smells like a sideshow, but the fact is that he's been leading the GOP primaries for months now and there is no indication that he's going down any time soon. This is going well beyond the Gingrich/Cain/Bachmann/Paul/Romney 2012 shitshow where every candidate had his/her turn at the top of the polls. This is Trump out there, totally winging it with no filter, calling everyone idiots, insulting anyone who asks him a slightly penetrating question, and just climbing higher and higher.
The three hottest GOP candidates, Trump, Carson, and Fiorina, have never held any political office yet they account for more than 50 percent of poll "votes". This is the shitshow to watch, no matter what chagrined Republicans say.
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I wonder if trump, has a big cock? my president, better have, a big cock.
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then you are going to LOVE Hillary ::)
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I wonder if trump, has a big cock? my president, better have, a big cock.
(https://m.dreamteamfc.com/c/s3/dreamteamfc-prod/uploads/2015/08/RTRMADP_USA-ELECTION-TRUMP_130810743_TM3EB8812XX01_2015-08-08T180143Zjpg-JS181772712-414x299.jpg)
"My penis is unbelievably huge. It's breathtaking, really. We're talking salami size. As for Jeb Bush?"
(https://fbexternal-a.akamaihd.net/safe_image.php?d=AQClEjAXSDg3LY51&w=470&h=246&url=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.politico.com%2Fglobal%2F2015%2F07%2F01%2F20150701_donald_trump_pointing_gty_1160.jpg&cfs=1&upscale=1&sx=0&sy=7&sw=1160&sh=607)
"AND THAT'S ON A GOOD DAY. HE'S AN IDIOT WITH A FINGER-DICK, MIGHT AS WELL BE A WOMAN."
[trump polls rise 7 points]
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[trump polls rise 7 points]
[walkie's pole rises 7 inches]
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relaxer is spot on with his Trump lampoons
Wonder if he can do the voice?
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(http://img.bleacherreport.net/img/images/photos/002/248/358/vince_crop_north.jpg?w=600&h=401&q=75)
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A Mexican television network has remixed a Donald Trump speech into a commercial mocking the chances of the United States soccer team beating Mexico (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/10/world/americas/mexican-tv-network-uses-trump-to-hype-soccer-showdown-with-us.html)
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A Mexican television network has remixed a Donald Trump speech into a commercial mocking the chances of the United States soccer team beating Mexico (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/10/world/americas/mexican-tv-network-uses-trump-to-hype-soccer-showdown-with-us.html)
I paused New Order for that. Great find...
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Trump is a joke..... but he's better than some of the other Republicans..I'd take him over Bush, Cruz, Walker, Rubio, Fiorina, Jindal, Christie, Huckabee
I'd take Kasich, Paul and Carson over Trump though...
Perry has no chance in hell.. I might just take him over Trump though..but its a coin flip
Lindsey, Gilmore and Pataki have no chance in hell but I don't particularly care for any of them either...I'd take Trump over any of them ...
Of course, I am never voting for a Republican... they are all nuts....I agree with Sweetcell..anyone who thinks its funny to contemplate a Trump presidency just look back at GWB..we all remember the "hey he's more fun to drink a beer with than boring Al! (weird though how he didn't drink)".... how did that turn out?
I'm going with Hillary unless Biden runs and then I'll have to think about it... Bernie is a joke..this country will never elect a socialist pledging to break up the banks etc...I mean come on..lets get real
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Krista: What is it about society that disappoints you so much?
Elliot: Oh, i don't know. Is it that we collectively thought Steve Jobs was a great man, when when we knew he made billions off the backs of children? Or maybe it's that it feels like all our heroes are counterfeit. the world itself's just a big hoax. Spamming with our running commentary of bullshit masquerading as insight, our social media faking as intimacy. Or is it that we voted for this? Not with our rigged elections, but with our things, our property, our money. I'm not saying anything new. We all know why we do this, not because Hunger Games books make us happy but because we wanna be sedated. Because it's painful not to pretend, because we're cowards. F society.
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You sound jaded.
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You sound jaded.
I agree. He should reflect on the good things in life and be more grateful.
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You sound jaded.
I agree. He should reflect on the good things in life and be more grateful.
I think you just lost your SHITLORD verification.
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Debate #2 tonight!
I'm embarrassingly excited about it.
I feel like this is the last chance for Jeb, Christie, and Rand to unload on Trump on a national stage. Rubio will float above it, Carly and Cruz will be nonfactors, Huckabee will have Kim Davis sitting in his lap, and Carson will smile beatifically while saying asinine shit.
Trump will be Trump. I love the fact that he does no preparation and no consultation before these things. Just another event to show up and Trump.
There has been no more fascinating political theater in my life time than this. And I was a grown-ass man for Sarah Palin, James Stockdale, Ross Perot, John Edwards/diapers, etc.
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Debate #2 tonight!
I'm embarrassingly excited about it.
I feel like this is the last chance for Jeb, Christie, and Rand to unload on Trump on a national stage. Rubio will float above it, Carly and Cruz will be nonfactors, Huckabee will have Kim Davis sitting in his lap, and Carson will smile beatifically while saying asinine shit.
Trump will be Trump. I love the fact that he does no preparation and no consultation before these things. Just another event to show up and Trump.
There has been no more fascinating political theater in my life time than this. And I was a grown-ass man for Sarah Palin, James Stockdale, Ross Perot, John Edwards/diapers, etc.
I'm glad you used your 4,000th post on this inanity.
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And I'll use my 4,001st post to call you a big dummy!
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And I'll use my 4,001st post to call you a big dummy!
I'm glad you used your 4,001st post on this inanity.
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He actually sold me on tuning in, though I'll have to watch it on a laptop.
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Holy crap, this debate is going to be 3 hours long :o
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it'll take a lot of weed to get through this thing...
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who has the best chance after trump to replace trump after trump is suddenly not liked anymore, or is it really possible at this point that trump will become the trump nominee and maybe even the next trump president? there are people I talk to who don,t care that he doesn,t know anything about the job or has any experience at all. they say, he,s a business man and they have people behind the scenes who run the show anyway for the trump president. people want a character for president over a serious stiff this time; people want the president from a movie. I think he's really going to have to say something beyond coming back from, to lose, at this point.
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there are people I talk to who don,t care that he doesn,t know anything about the job or has any experience at all. they say, they have people behind the scenes who run the show anyway for the president. people want a character for president over a serious stiff this time; people want the president from a movie.
Wait, Reagan is back from the dead and running again?
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there are people I talk to who don,t care that he doesn,t know anything about the job or has any experience at all. they say, they have people behind the scenes who run the show anyway for the president. people want a character for president over a serious stiff this time; people want the president from a movie.
Wait, Reagan is back from the dead and running again?
In an ironic twist, Arnold is taking over the Apprentice (or should that have gone on the Prestige tv thread)
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there are people I talk to who don,t care that he doesn,t know anything about the job or has any experience at all. they say, they have people behind the scenes who run the show anyway for the president. people want a character for president over a serious stiff this time; people want the president from a movie.
Wait, Reagan is back from the dead and running again?
trump president just came, that you compared him to Reagan president.
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there are people I talk to who don,t care that he doesn,t know anything about the job or has any experience at all. they say, they have people behind the scenes who run the show anyway for the president. people want a character for president over a serious stiff this time; people want the president from a movie.
Wait, Reagan is back from the dead and running again?
In an ironic twist, Arnold is taking over the Apprentice (or should that have gone on the Prestige tv thread)
Reality TV is the antithesis of prestige television.
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it'll take a lot of weed to get through this thing...
You just won my vote!
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it'll take a lot of weed to get through this thing...
You just won my vote!
You're banned from bodybuilding for five years.
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who has the best chance after trump to replace trump after trump is suddenly not liked anymore, or is it really possible at this point that trump will become the trump nominee and maybe even the next trump president? there are people I talk to who don,t care that he doesn,t know anything about the job or has any experience at all. they say, he,s a business man and they have people behind the scenes who run the show anyway for the trump president. people want a character for president over a serious stiff this time; people want the president from a movie. I think he's really going to have to say something beyond coming back from, to lose, at this point.
I know this is the conventional wisdom, but I just cannot see Trump winning the nomination. At some point, he's going to be confronted with questions about what he would actually DO as president. And even if he gets some ghost-written "positions" he's going to have a Perry moment where someone questions him on "his" positions and he'll have no idea. I mean, the guy has zero shame so maybe he can blowhard past that, but at some point, this has to catch up with him. Doesn't it? I mean, he's defied all the laws of politics for months now, but I just cannot see The Establishment allowing him to be the nominee.
And if/when he goes down, who replaces him depends on who's left. Jeb and Rubio seem like the most mainstream options but it feels like Jeb is slowly flaming out and joining Walker and Paul in the LOL category.
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it'll take a lot of weed to get through this thing...
You just won my vote!
You're banned from bodybuilding for five years.
Man, lots of gym bros smoke the weed. Zero calories/trans fats! All you need to do is have the MENTAL WILLPOWER and STRENGTH and DISCIPLINE to avoid crappy snacks when you get the munchies. Munch on some OVERHEAD DELT CABLE FLIES INSTEAD.
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And if/when he goes down, who replaces him depends on who's left. Jeb and Rubio seem like the most mainstream options but it feels like Jeb is slowly flaming out and joining Walker and Paul in the LOL category.
I really thought it was going to be Walker. At this point, I think it's Rubio or Carson.
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Man, lots of gym bros smoke the weed. Zero calories/trans fats! All you need to do is have the MENTAL WILLPOWER and STRENGTH and DISCIPLINE to avoid crappy snacks when you get the munchies. Munch on some OVERHEAD DELT CABLE FLIES INSTEAD.
I was parodying that kickboxing dude who just got suspended for 5 years for "performance enhancing" weed.
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it'll take a lot of weed to get through this thing...
You just won my vote!
You're banned from bodybuilding for five years.
Man, lots of gym bros smoke the weed. Zero calories/trans fats! All you need to do is have the MENTAL WILLPOWER and STRENGTH and DISCIPLINE to avoid crappy snacks when you get the munchies. Munch on some OVERHEAD DELT CABLE FLIES INSTEAD.
i thought the biggest challenge was having the mental willpower and strength and discipline to stay chained to the weights and lift some more; vs. wandering off because someone is playing pink floyd in the other room, or taking a nap 'cause that couch sure does look damn comfy right about now...
uh, do we need a new thread here? staying motivated while intoxicated? benching under the influence? other?
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All you need to do is have the MENTAL WILLPOWER and STRENGTH and DISCIPLINE to avoid crappy snacks when you get the munchies.
I continue to Fail
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32 Celebrities Struggle to Define the Color of Donald Trump?s Hair (http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2015/09/trump-hair-color-kristen-stewart-tom-hiddleston?)
(http://media.vanityfair.com/photos/55f99a29fad0d98d444d4491/master/w_690,c_limit/vf-trump-hair-chastain.gif)
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I'm willing to bet that no less than 28 of those 32 have changed their own hair color so their criticisms of President-Elect Trump are dubious.
(http://images.ftw.usatoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/jeanluchappy.gif)
"Not me! Not me! Not me!"
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look at all the next generation gifs, we got going on, in here.
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A true patriot, lol
Tom Brady endorses Donald Trump
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I'm willing to bet that no less than 28 of those 32 have changed their own hair color so their criticisms of President-Elect Trump are dubious.
(http://images.ftw.usatoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/jeanluchappy.gif)
"Not me! Not me! Not me!"
one of my favorites so far
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was kinda hoping to get a play by play fellas
I want to know what to blather about in the morning and not have to use NPR's talking points
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was kinda hoping to get a play by play fellas
I want to know what to blather about in the morning and not have to use NPR's talking points
NOT USE NPR'S TALKING POINTS? you're basically ripping food out of relaxer's non-existent children's mouths!!
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you're basically ripping food out of relaxer's non-existent children's mouths!!
uh, i've got news for you...
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was kinda hoping to get a play by play fellas
I want to know what to blather about in the morning and not have to use NPR's talking points
I watched most of the first hour and couldn't take anymore...
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you're basically ripping food out of relaxer's non-existent children's mouths!!
uh, i've got news for you...
They've basically just impregnated Relaxer, brought his babies to term, then ripped food out of their now existing mouths!
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Actually it just occurred to me that Jean-Luc appears to be happily entertaining two dicks.
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(http://i.imgur.com/5kOY4Dk.png)
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Here are the albums I thought represented each candidate after last night's debate
Trump: Van Halen II
Carson: Norah Jones 'Come Away with Me'
Fiorina: Adele '21'
Jeb: REM "Monster"
Walker: Meghan Trainor's next album
Christie: Bruce Springsteen "Human Touch"
Rubio: "The Historical Conquests of Josh Ritter"
Kasich: That one album by The News when Huey Lewis was off in rehab or something
Huckabee: Noel Gallagher's Flying Birds "Chasing Yesterday"
Rand: Public Enemy "The Evil Empire of Everything"
Cruz: Phil Collins "...But Seriously"
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Really, shouldn't Christie be Adele or Meghan Trainor? They seem to share a certain hambeastiness.
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So ended up watching some online (NPR's coverage this am was weak)
I really was in pain anytime Cruz or Huckabee spoke
Trump is really a dick with his comments on 1% polling and how people look
such an egomaniac and people love him more when he acts like a buffoon
But this had to be my favorite moment
Carson said something that Trump liked
Trump goes for the Hi-Five and Carson just leaves him hanging
(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2015/images/09/16/carsontrumpshake.gif)
...trump recovers to just go into handshake (must happen to him a lot )
Although looked like Carson was going to do a "Down low...too slow"
Carson was funny with his 'you'd make an OK Dr' comment
Speaking of hi-fives...man did Bush really slam one to Trump
(http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/9-17-2015/BdbptI.gif)
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Really, shouldn't Christie be Adele or Meghan Trainor? They seem to share a certain hambeastiness.
Maybe "Chinese Democracy" would be appropriate for Christie.
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Speaking of hi-fives...man did Bush really slam one to Trump
(http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/9-17-2015/BdbptI.gif)
God, I so wish that Trump had yanked his hand back and run it through his hair, smiling, while Jeb! sputtered and gasped.
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I thought Trump made both of them look like patsies in those interchanges.....
They all are pretty scary but some are better than others...my revised rankings on preferred Republican nominee (based on being better for the country although hopefully they all lose to the democratic nominee)
1. Kasich
2. Paul
3. Carson
4. Trump
5. Bush
6. Christie
7. Fiorina
8. Walker
9. Rubio
10. Huckabee
11. Cruz (obviously the best debater but scariest...)
Bush is particularly hard to gauge and at times I would rate him over Trump.... I think if his brother had never been president, and if he wasn't bound to surround himself with many of the same people as his father and brother then I would rate him higher.. When he said his brother kept America safe I had to laugh.... the reply should have been "eh.. guess you don't remember 9-11?"
Candidates democrats should fear: Fiorina, Rubio and Kasich
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Pataki anyone?
moderate Republican governor from large liberal state...
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Pataki anyone?
moderate Republican governor from large liberal state...
those guys on the loser debate are non-starters
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Jeb! has revealed himself to be a terrible campaigner. He's prickly and dickless and if Trump weren't in the race tweaking him, Jeb! would just be whining and dicking about something else. He looks the part, he's got the background, but he's just such a blob of gelatinous goo that I don't think he would've made it regardless.
Carly was impressive and has done good work projecting a "Commander in Chief in Heels" persona, but I don't think the GOP is going to nominate both the first woman and the first never-been-elected-to-anything candidate. The Palin stink is too fresh so she won't get VP and Carly's legacy in this race is that she's everyone's #2 or #3 choice.
If Rubio could fix that "little boy trying to be all tough" quiver in his voice, he'd be a strong candidate. He's young enough that as long as he doesn't get caught knuckle-deep in a tiny asian boy, he's got a couple more cycles available to him. He'll run for governor after he loses this round.
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assuming they don't get the nomination the Republicans would be foolish not to take a serious look at Rubio and Fiorina as VPs... Rubio would help lock up Florida... Fiorina would be major damage control with women....
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Relaxer...your commentary on Rubio is dead on. He should just bide his time.
Who Said It: Presidential Hopeful Donald Trump or ?Idiocracy? President Camacho? (http://flavorwire.com/537887/who-said-it-presidential-hopeful-donald-trump-or-idiocracy-president-camacho)
(https://flavorwire.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/camacho.jpg)
you totatlly know Killsaly would be on the street team for him
Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho ?five-time Smackdown champion, born superstar, and President of the United States,?
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Here's my hot takes coming out of debate
Trump: Plateauing but the beginning of downward trend is born. The longer he delays uttering a single rational sentence that actually pertains to the real carbon-based world, the worse it will be for him.
Carson: Continues along at ~15-20% on his car made of clouds and then one day someone realizes we haven't heard from him in 8 months but he's still happy and peaceful like Ferdinand the bull smelling the flowers.
Fiorina: Gets a solid bump coming out of last night but the desperate guys stuck in single digits will unload on her at the next debate and she'll start crying or get her period or something and she'll Bachmann out of contention. Apparently she has a lot of skeletons in her closet so this will be fun and horny to watch.
Jeb: His ship is slowly sinking and he knows it so he's going to just even swim harder except eventually he'll get a cramp. Meanwhile, his wife just sent Rubio a FB friend request.
Walker: Will never emerge from single digits and once he realizes it, he'll make a speech saying that he can do more good riding his Harley around America and getting into adventures and no one will care.
Christie: He should've said "You see this plane behind us? I personally flew it into this building today to remind us all how connected I am to 9/11. Also, the snack bar was about to close and I couldn't find a parking spot." He'll rage-quit pretty soon.
Rubio: Cruised out of debates looking good but that voice quiver.
Kasich: Seems like a reasonable guy but ultimately unelectable because clearly his bones are liquifying plus all the gay rumors.
Huckabee: He's finished but will continue on his own, picking up bass gigs here and there to keep gas in the tank.
Rand: This is just the first of many, many elections that he'll lose.
Cruz: Only 'bump' for him is he successfully lost 12 pounds in sweat last night.
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Fiorina: ... she'll start crying or get her period or something and . . . this will be fun and horny to watch.
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Jeb: His ship is slowly sinking and he knows it so he's going to just even swim harder except eventually he'll get a cramp. Meanwhile, his wife just sent Rubio a FB friend request.
:D
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I like Kasich..but he looks a bit past his shelf life... he was really grimacing and holding the podium weird last night while rocking forward or something..
if not he'd be a great VP too... he's very popular in Ohio and you know what they say about Ohio...
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Relaxer, I'm unclear who is going to win from your perceptive analysis of last night's debate...
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he's very popular in Ohio and you know what they say about Ohio...
(http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0240/6253/products/80_219_1024x1024.jpeg)??
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Relaxer, I'm unclear who is going to win from your perceptive analysis of last night's debate...
(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbqzqg0o3H1r2piwc.png)
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Nobody's mentioned the Trojan Horse Theory?
I was sitting near these two guys at a conference earlier this week and one of them wouldn't stop talking to the other one about how Trump and the Clintons are in a secret plot to undermine the Republican chances in 2016 by putting Trump out there as a legitimate GOP candidate when he's really a diehard Dem. Barring the nomination, Trump will run as an Independent, regardless of any silly pledge. This guy had all sorts of details about golf outings and other secret meetings; sweetheart financing deals made to Trump's businesses through Bob Rubin and other ex-Clinton administration financiers. It was fascinating, really.
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Nobody's mentioned the Trojan Horse Theory?
I was sitting near these two guys at a conference earlier this week and one of them wouldn't stop talking to the other one about how Trump and the Clintons are in a secret plot to undermine the Republican chances in 2016 by putting Trump out there as a legitimate GOP candidate when he's really a diehard Dem. Barring the nomination, Trump will run as an Independent, regardless of any silly pledge. This guy had all sorts of details about golf outings and other secret meetings; sweetheart financing deals made to Trump's businesses through Bob Rubin and other ex-Clinton administration financiers. It was fascinating, really.
Isn't this just the old "the Clintons funneled money to Perot to get back into the race" theory from 1992 recast?
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Trump is so obsessed with the Trump brand that I can't imagine him doing a public goof like that. He's putting himself out there completely, his children are working overtime pumping up the Trump For Prez line, he's spending and losing money at a huge rate, he's taking hits left and right and doubling down on all of them.
I think this is a legit effort. It's a lark for him but I think he genuinely wants to be president.
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but does, he, have a large cock? I bet he does. I wonder if his cock has a comb,over?
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but does, he, have a large cock? I bet he does. I wonder if his cock has a comb,over?
He wears size 12 shoes.
Though the website that said that also said he's 6'2" 198 pounds, which is probably off by 50 pounds.
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Though the website that said that also said he's 6'2" 198 pounds, which is probably off by 50 pounds.
As the resident SHITLORD, I want to express my strong resentment at the absurd lie he only weighs 198 pounds. No fucking way.
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I wonder if his cock has a comb,over?
He has a merkin, but he refuses to admit it.
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I wonder if his cock has a comb,over?
He has a merkin, but he refuses to admit it.
Another site said 253. That's probably more accurate. Sorry, that's in reference to your previous weight post.
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Another site said 253. That's probably more accurate. Sorry, that's in reference to your previous weight post.
If he's 6'2", that makes sense with his build.
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Nobody's mentioned the Trojan Horse Theory?
I was sitting near these two guys at a conference earlier this week and one of them wouldn't stop talking to the other one about how Trump and the Clintons are in a secret plot to undermine the Republican chances in 2016 by putting Trump out there as a legitimate GOP candidate when he's really a diehard Dem. Barring the nomination, Trump will run as an Independent, regardless of any silly pledge. This guy had all sorts of details about golf outings and other secret meetings; sweetheart financing deals made to Trump's businesses through Bob Rubin and other ex-Clinton administration financiers. It was fascinating, really.
Isn't this just the old "the Clintons funneled money to Perot to get back into the race" theory from 1992 recast?
It worked then, didn't it? Those Clintons are some crafty motherfuckers...
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Nobody's mentioned the Trojan Horse Theory?
I was sitting near these two guys at a conference earlier this week and one of them wouldn't stop talking to the other one about how Trump and the Clintons are in a secret plot to undermine the Republican chances in 2016 by putting Trump out there as a legitimate GOP candidate when he's really a diehard Dem. Barring the nomination, Trump will run as an Independent, regardless of any silly pledge. This guy had all sorts of details about golf outings and other secret meetings; sweetheart financing deals made to Trump's businesses through Bob Rubin and other ex-Clinton administration financiers. It was fascinating, really.
Isn't this just the old "the Clintons funneled money to Perot to get back into the race" theory from 1992 recast?
It worked then, didn't it? Those Clintons are some crafty motherfuckers...
They won't leave any loose ends like Vince Foster this time around, though.
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http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/top-rand-paul-aide-accuses-top-marco-rubio-aide-of-punching-him-in-the-face/ar-AAetltC?li=AAa0dzB&ocid=UP97DHP
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Pussies.
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the trump train, is ending. off the tracks it is heading. when your fan base is rebel flag waving, white power screaming, kill all muslims thinking, cracker barrel eating, sister fucking dreaming, nascar and Budweiser living kind of people . . . then you know it ain,t going to last.
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you really shouldn't talk about your neighbors like that
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the trump train, is ending. off the tracks it is heading. when your fan base is rebel flag waving, white power screaming, kill all muslims thinking, cracker barrel eating, sister fucking dreaming, nascar and Budweiser living kind of people . . . then you know it ain,t going to last.
I read this in a Yoda voice. It was excellent.
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"...going to last it ain't"
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(http://election.princeton.edu/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/summer-of-trump-ends.jpg)
Just in time for the autumn equinox on Wednesday, the Summer of Trump may be waning. Two surveys are now out with samples entirely postdating GOP debate #2. The fraction of GOP voters willing to go with outsiders who have never held office (Trump, Carson, Fiorina) still adds up to over 50 percent, but they have redistributed a bit.
Considering Fiorina?s problems with accuracy and her dismal performance as Hewlett-Packard?s CEO, it seems likely that her rise will also be transient. If 2012 is a guide, she will last one or two months then fade, just as Cain, Gingrich, Santorum, and Bachmann did.
Walker?s fallen below 2% and Jeb! is stuck around 8%. Assuming those trends persist, the highest-finishing serious candidate is Marco Rubio. As I have said before (link to The New Republic), Rubio is a relatively likely consensus candidate. In the past, the GOP has usually settled on a strong general-election candidate. Rubio polls relatively well against likely Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton. If the past is a guide, then at some point party donors/actors and primary voters may fall into line.
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I just can not see joe-6-pack republican voting for Rubio in the general
I 'like' him more than most and he is a good candidate, but those people who are excited about trump...are really going to have a hard time doing an about face and voting for Rubio
I swear that I could tell really early on that Romney was going to be the one to go all the way
but I look at this crowd and I know it's not going to be cruz, but that's about it
The Republicans, while I'm sure they are annoyed that Trump is stealing headlines and all the air in the room...he is getting people engaged. Maybe like watching a car crash and you can't look away
but the viewership is setting records (I think)
So it's good that people are engaged
Let's hope they might actually pay attention and not vote for who has the best Ad team (and wallet)
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Rubio is a warmonger.. I can't see how anybody can see past that...What exactly makes him a "good candidate" anyways? The fact he's a good debater and looks like a Latino Ken doll?
I guess if you want boots in the ground in Syria, an invasion of Cuba, he's your man.
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What exactly makes him a "good candidate" anyways? The fact he's a good debater and looks like a Latino Ken doll?
exactly!
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What exactly makes him a "good candidate" anyways? The fact he's a good debater and looks like a Latino Ken doll?
exactly!
The last thing the country needs is a Republican from the warmonger/neocon faction of the party...maybe I should ask what you like bout Rubio?
By the way Space Freely must be having a tough time between Trump and Carson who seem to be dueling for the anti-muslim vote
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Rubio seems like a logical in-the-middle man between the establishment guys who are shitting the bed (Bush, Paul, Christie, Cruz) and the maverick upstarts that have no idea what it means to be president (Trump, Fiorina, Carson).
He thinks fast on his feet, looks foreign enough that conservatives can feel good about inclusiveness, and portrays his right-wing tendencies in a soft compassionate context. His negatives are that he looks like he's 14, has a quivery wussy voice, has accomplished the least among the establishment names, and has his rich history/backstory somewhat compromised by the fact that he lied about it and got nailed.
His embellished backstory issue probably won't hurt him too much unless he does something similar. I think there's a narrative of "Rubio is ambitious enough to kill a guy" swirling around him and anything that slides neatly into that story arc will be heartily welcomed by the media and myself.
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Rubio seems like a logical in-the-middle man between the establishment guys who are shitting the bed (Bush, Paul, Christie, Cruz) and the maverick upstarts that have no idea what it means to be president (Trump, Fiorina, Carson).
He thinks fast on his feet, looks foreign enough that conservatives can feel good about inclusiveness, and portrays his right-wing tendencies in a soft compassionate context. His negatives are that he looks like he's 14, has a quivery wussy voice, has accomplished the least among the establishment names, and has his rich history/backstory somewhat compromised by the fact that he lied about it and got nailed.
His embellished backstory issue probably won't hurt him too much unless he does something similar. I think there's a narrative of "Rubio is ambitious enough to kill a guy" swirling around him and anything that slides neatly into that story arc will be heartily welcomed by the media and myself.
Pretty good analysis..
I think he could be a threat next year....but like I said..the guy is a warmonger.... the country is sick and tired of war.. a Rubio presidency is a return to the Bush years in the most important issue the Executive affects: foreign policy.... he'd surround himself with the same neocon bozos and we'd soon enough be committing a new generation of hired soldiers into the next pointless conflict, run up our debt again..
contrary to what the Republicans think the US cannot solve all the world's problems through war.
I shudder at the thought..
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He thinks fast on his feet, looks foreign enough that [people] can feel good about inclusiveness, and portrays his right-wing tendencies in a soft compassionate context. His negatives are that he looks like he's 14, has a quivery wussy voice, has accomplished the least among the establishment names...
2008 Obama is running again?
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I agree with Relaxer's statements, I honestly have not delved deep into his foreign policy stuff
the fact that he's a major social conservative too, makes it pretty impossible for me to ever vote for him
But he is a very together speaker and can talk off the cuff intelligently
he's got charisma, I'll give you that
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He thinks fast on his feet, looks foreign enough that [people] can feel good about inclusiveness, and portrays his right-wing tendencies in a soft compassionate context. His negatives are that he looks like he's 14, has a quivery wussy voice, has accomplished the least among the establishment names...
2008 Obama is running again?
Obama was always a fairly pragmatic conservative democrat once he got to Washington DC... people just wanted to believe he was very liberal...I don't recall him ever really pandering to the left.... the left just gave him a pass because he could present himself as having been against the Iraq war debacle unlike warmonger Hillary...so they thought "ah ha he is one of us!"
Rubio is a right winger trying to pretend he is not..
I'd say its very different but I hear this comparison all the time but its really based on age, looks, ethnicity, good speakers etc... and not their political alignment or substance...
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I agree that the prevailing trend among the GOP is to talk tough, but I see this as more pandering to idiots than saber-rattling. All these candidates repeatedly say that Obama fucked up by not taking a stronger position in Syria, Iran, Ukraine, etc. And then they're rightly asked, well Obama has been using sanctions and diplomatic condemnation in these areas, what exactly would you do differently?
And really, I can't remember hearing anyone say "We need 20,000 troops on the ground, with most of them being beloved grandsons from the states of Ohio, Florida and Pennsylvania" or even just saying, I'd go in there with troops. So they want something more than diplomacy but less than troops. Heeeyyyyy, maybe it's time to get those drones out of the attic.
Anyway, I think they're just playing it cute so they can criticize Obama, no matter what. Nothing makes a Republican hornier right now than hearing someone snarl "Do you know what Obama did?" It doesn't even matter what they're talking about.
Candidate: "Do you know what Obama did?"
Typical GOP Crowd: "MUSLIM" "Took away my healthcare?" "Wiped his ass with a dead soldier's coffin flag?" "Put out a new mixtape?" "Took off his pants and sat on a crucifix?"
Candidate: "He had BREAKFAST"
Typical GOP Crowd: "MUSLIMS DON'T EAT BREAKFAST THEY JIHAD" "I BET HE ATE IT WITH HIS MOUTH" "HE HAD SOCIALIST WAFFLES LIKE A SOCIALIST" "Cop-killers always eat breakfast!"
I think the one and only positive result of the W administration is that people now realize that presidents can be lying fucking assholes who go to war for the pure and simple reason that they would like to. And I question whether a President Rubio would have the gravitas and the dickbag to launch a pre-emptive strike on someone.
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the left just gave him a pass because he could present himself as having been against the Iraq war debacle unlike warmonger Hillary...
This is probably the truest thing ever. His whole campaign against Hillary was "I openly admit I would've voted the same way Hillary did but because I held no national office at the time it came up for vote, you should view me in a different light." It was stunning how many on here ate it with a spoon.
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I could easily be mistaken but I thought in 08, Obama tried to make the case that while he wasn't in the Congress at the time (and therefore unable to vote on Iraq), he would've voted against it and as proof, pointed to statements he made as a state senator condemning the invasion.
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I'm just impressed that Zack De La Rocha and Tom Morello predicted the Trump for President thing all the way back in 1999:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w211KOQ5BMI (see the 1:04 mark).
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I could easily be mistaken but I thought in 08, Obama tried to make the case that while he wasn't in the Congress at the time (and therefore unable to vote on Iraq), he would've voted against it and as proof, pointed to statements he made as a state senator condemning the invasion.
This is true.. he was a State Representative representing a very very liberal small area in South Chicago...and he went on a local access TV show and of course everything was incredibly liberal......this is what I mean by he could present himself as having been against the war...but its also true that after that local access show he said different things.. and OF COURSE he was going to say he was against the invasion when he was a State Rep for a very liberal district...had he not said that he'd have lost his job...
Far harder was to say you were against the invasion when you were a national senator with presidential aspirations in a post 9-11 world and political environment from the state most affected by the attack.... obviously Hillary could not foresee the incredible debacle that would ensue.. .had Bush simply declared victory and left (he wisely declared victory but failed to leave..this was the huge problem) things could have been very different... after taking Baghdad we should have just left..of course we should have never invaded in the first place but that's all water under the bridge...
I do find it strange that one of the only wise things Bush did was to declare victory for which he was mercilessly criticized...
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"sigh (http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/09/21/scott-walker-said-to-be-quitting-presidential-race/)"
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He can go back to making Minwax commercials (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oh4COhEGRCU)
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I do find it strange that one of the only wise things Bush did was to declare victory for which he was mercilessly criticized...
...not sure I understand what you are saying here
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He can go back to making Minwax commercials (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oh4COhEGRCU)
so is he the pizza delivery guy ;D
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What exactly makes him a "good candidate" anyways? The fact he's a good debater and looks like a Latino Ken doll?
exactly!
The last thing the country needs is a Republican from the warmonger/neocon faction of the party...maybe I should ask what you like bout Rubio?
By the way Space Freely must be having a tough time between Trump and Carson who seem to be dueling for the anti-muslim vote
I'm not a one issue voter.
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I do find it strange that one of the only wise things Bush did was to declare victory for which he was mercilessly criticized...
...not sure I understand what you are saying here
seems rather obvious to me.
you fight a war.. you say you won and you get out... we should have said we toppled saddam's government and achieved our objectives.... had we not interfered AFTER we toppled the government its very probable that the Sunnis would have retained power and we would not have strengthened our enemies as we ended up doing... Iran's position in the region was strengthened with the Shiites taking over and the sunnis eventually got tired of it and formed Isis...
Bush should have declared victory far sooner and we should have gotten everybody out... we could have come out looking like winners, saved a ton of money, and lives.. and its hard to imagine things could have gone much worse..
Of course, we should never have gone in in the first place but back then that was a very unpopular stance.. I can still remember CNN telling us that once we made the decision to go in to protest was unpatriotic...and I can remember for years afterwards turning up for the protests and it was a few dozen people!! Now EVERYBODY suddenly claims they were against it of course....
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What exactly makes him a "good candidate" anyways? The fact he's a good debater and looks like a Latino Ken doll?
exactly!
The last thing the country needs is a Republican from the warmonger/neocon faction of the party...maybe I should ask what you like bout Rubio?
By the way Space Freely must be having a tough time between Trump and Carson who seem to be dueling for the anti-muslim vote
I'm not a one issue voter.
just a one issue poster?
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What exactly makes him a "good candidate" anyways? The fact he's a good debater and looks like a Latino Ken doll?
exactly!
The last thing the country needs is a Republican from the warmonger/neocon faction of the party...maybe I should ask what you like bout Rubio?
By the way Space Freely must be having a tough time between Trump and Carson who seem to be dueling for the anti-muslim vote
I'm not a one issue voter.
just a one issue poster?
I'm pro gay-rights/marriage, pro-choice, pro-science, believe in climate change, am a moderate on gun possession/control, am in favor of legal immigration, pro marijuana legalization, pro public education, am fiscally conservative, strong supporter of freedom of speech, as well as being in favor of separation of church and state. I would not support Carson because of he would inject his fundamentalist views into his decision making, and I wouldn't support Trump because he's a nut. Anything else? What candidate do you think best matches me?
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What exactly makes him a "good candidate" anyways? The fact he's a good debater and looks like a Latino Ken doll?
exactly!
The last thing the country needs is a Republican from the warmonger/neocon faction of the party...maybe I should ask what you like bout Rubio?
By the way Space Freely must be having a tough time between Trump and Carson who seem to be dueling for the anti-muslim vote
I'm not a one issue voter.
just a one issue poster?
I'm pro gay-rights/marriage, pro-choice, pro-science, believe in climate change, am a moderate on gun possession/control, am in favor of legal immigration, pro marijuana legalization, pro public education, am fiscally conservative, as well as being in favor of separation of church and state. I would not support Carson because of he would inject his fundamentalist views into his decision making, and I wouldn't support Trump because he's a nut. Anything else? What candidate do you think best matches me?
funny...all you post about is muslims...
don't kid yourself, you'll be gritting your teeth and pulling the lever for the democrat...whoever it is.
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What exactly makes him a "good candidate" anyways? The fact he's a good debater and looks like a Latino Ken doll?
exactly!
The last thing the country needs is a Republican from the warmonger/neocon faction of the party...maybe I should ask what you like bout Rubio?
By the way Space Freely must be having a tough time between Trump and Carson who seem to be dueling for the anti-muslim vote
I'm not a one issue voter.
just a one issue poster?
I'm pro gay-rights/marriage, pro-choice, pro-science, believe in climate change, am a moderate on gun possession/control, am in favor of legal immigration, pro marijuana legalization, pro public education, am fiscally conservative, as well as being in favor of separation of church and state. I would not support Carson because of he would inject his fundamentalist views into his decision making, and I wouldn't support Trump because he's a nut. Anything else? What candidate do you think best matches me?
funny...all you post about is muslims...
don't kid yourself, you'll be gritting your teeth and pulling the lever for the democrat...whoever it is.
Why is that funny? The non-questioning by liberals of the misogynistic, homophobic, undemocratic Islamic political systems around the world needs to be called out. And what better place to call it out than on a board populated almost entirely by sanctimonious liberals??? ;)
I don't think i have major beefs with too any other liberal pet projects, at least not at the moment.
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There are lots of liberals who call out Muslims. Bill Maher for one.
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all this reading and thinking is making my future self of wondering if I should care, hurt . . . so allow me to put this little gem here.
http://gawker.com/pizza-rat-pizza-rat-i-love-you-1732117248
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There are lots of liberals who call out Muslims. Bill Maher for one.
I wasn't aware that Bill Maher posted on this board. Wouldn't it be fun if he did? Kanye would be a fun forum member as well. And Father John Misty.
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Bill Maher for one.
does really seem like a party of one....
a satirist has an odd place in society and he can say what others won't and start the conversation that wouldn't have happened if it wasn't said out loud at all
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Bill Maher for one.
does really seem like a party of one....
a satirist has an odd place in society and he can say what others won't and start the conversation that wouldn't have happened if it wasn't said out loud at all
Party of one? Really? I bet a good many of these folks are liberals.
https://www.facebook.com/exmna
Or this guy.
https://www.facebook.com/ali.a.rizvi
Or Raif Badawi.
Or this guy:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/09/21/don-t-call-me-porch-monkey.html?via=mobile&source=twitter
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ok party of 1.125
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its a very sensitive subject...
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http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/09/22/in-interview-donald-trump-denies-report-of-fathers-arrest-in-1927/
Trump's father arrested at KKK rally.
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72% of Americans think Trump is right!
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-09-24/most-agree-with-trump-on-america-s-lost-greatness-bloomberg-poll-finds
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72% of Americans think Trump is right!
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-09-24/most-agree-with-trump-on-america-s-lost-greatness-bloomberg-poll-finds
to which i say:
Why Republicans are starting to panic, in 1 paragraph
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/09/23/why-republicans-are-starting-to-panic-in-1-paragraph/
woe, the tyranny of demographics...
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It's not Trump-related, or even all that connected to the election, but Boehner is leaving Congress next month. Cry atcha later, Bone.
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It's not Trump-related, or even all that connected to the election, but Boehner is leaving Congress next month. Cry atcha later, Bone.
wow makes me want to party!
wonder if there is some blackmail that has him just stepping down and pretty much surprising everone
this is nice...hope its true
"With the speakers decision, a shutdown is a lot less likely," said David Jolly (R-Fla.), explaining that conservatives will now be able to claim a "small victory."
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It's not Trump-related, or even all that connected to the election, but Boehner is leaving Congress next month. Cry atcha later, Bone.
wow makes me want to party!
wonder if there is some blackmail that has him just stepping down and pretty much surprising everone
this is nice...hope its true
"With the speakers decision, a shutdown is a lot less likely," said David Jolly (R-Fla.), explaining that conservatives will now be able to claim a "small victory."
I was going to post the same quote. What the hell does it even mean?
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It's not Trump-related, or even all that connected to the election, but Boehner is leaving Congress next month. Cry atcha later, Bone.
wow makes me want to party!
wonder if there is some blackmail that has him just stepping down and pretty much surprising everone
this is nice...hope its true
"With the speakers decision, a shutdown is a lot less likely," said David Jolly (R-Fla.), explaining that conservatives will now be able to claim a "small victory."
I was going to post the same quote. What the hell does it even mean?
Boehner is a moderate (within the GOP). He was under pressure from the very conservative wing to shut down the government if Planned Parenthood wasn't de-funded. The threat was that if he didn't do so the conservative wing would oust him from the speaker position. Since he has given it up on his own, he can't be bullied any longer. He also doesn't have to use his sway on other moderate Republicans. There won't be enough anti-Planned Parenthood types to shut down the government, but they can point to Boehner's resignation and claim that they forced him to step down. Everyone wins!
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The Pope inspired him to do it.
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The Pope inspired him to do it.
Wouldn't the pope be all in favor of defunding Planned Parenthood?
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The Pope inspired him to do it.
Wouldn't the pope be all in favor of defunding Planned Parenthood?
Why would he want to defund an org that reduces abortion?
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Wouldn't the pope be all in favor of defunding Planned Parenthood?
Probably just the 3% that goes to Abortion, of which none is Federal Funding, so maybe he gets it's just a sham?
He's already begun the papal backtrack on contraception and family planning in developing countries, so I don't think he really cares one bit about the Congressional grandstanding....
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Wouldn't the pope be all in favor of defunding Planned Parenthood?
Probably just the 3% that goes to Abortion, of which none is Federal Funding, so maybe he gets it's just a sham?
He's already begun the papal backtrack on contraception and family planning in developing countries, so I don't think he really cares one bit about the Congressional grandstanding....
Your 3% figure is meaningless and silly.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2013/05/07/_3_percent_of_planned_parenthood_s_services_are_abortion_but_what_about.html
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Your 3% figure is meaningless and silly.
Make it 100%, I don't care. Doesn't change the premise - the Hyde Amendment means no Federal dollars can be used...
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Your 3% figure is meaningless and silly.
Make it 100%, I don't care. Doesn't change the premise - the Hyde Amendment means no Federal dollars can be used...
Which is exactly why they should spin off the baby-killing arm into an independent standalone entity funded through private donations. Then the de-funders wouldn't have a case.
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Your 3% figure is meaningless and silly.
Make it 100%, I don't care. Doesn't change the premise - the Hyde Amendment means no Federal dollars can be used...
Which is exactly why they should spin off the baby-killing arm into an independent standalone entity funded through private donations. Then the de-funders wouldn't have a case.
kinda been my thinking too...but I guess the fear is that if they split it off it will be an easier target with little room to defend it's reason for being (against the religious right that is)
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Which is exactly why they should spin off the baby-killing arm into an independent standalone entity funded through private donations. Then the de-funders wouldn't have a case.
Gee, what objective rhetoric you use in calling it their baby-killing arm. I prefer to call it The Safe Place for Women's Private Choices.
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Which is exactly why they should spin off the baby-killing arm into an independent standalone entity funded through private donations. Then the de-funders wouldn't have a case.
Gee, what objective rhetoric you use in calling it their baby-killing arm. I prefer to call it The Safe Place for Women's Private Choices.
I am objectively in favor of ready access to the Private Choice. A lot of positive externalities to killing the unwanted ones.
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nothing will placate the opponents of planned parenthood, including a non-profit governance maneuver
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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/04/magazine/donald-trump-is-not-going-anywhere.html?_r=0
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Looks like Space Freely's views are in the mainstream.....in North Carolina.
http://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/09/29/new-poll-finds-anti-muslim-sentiment-frighteningly-high/
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Looks like Space Freely's views are in the mainstream.....in North Carolina.
http://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/09/29/new-poll-finds-anti-muslim-sentiment-frighteningly-high/
If you're going to attempt to post something that speaks for me, you'd be better off posting this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLN9ZHNA_3c
Note: Ben Stiller is my guy, not Casey Kasem.
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America, has to always hate someone. first it was black people, then jewish people, then women people, then gay people, then fat people, now muslim people. I wonder, who will be next.
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I wonder, who will be next.
comma-abusing people.
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damn
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America, has to always hate someone. first it was black people, then jewish people, then women people, then gay people, then fat people, now muslim people. I wonder, who will be next.
Socilalists and Atheists get the least love. Followed by Muslims, evengelical Christians, and gays.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/09/20/ben-carson-says-a-muslim-shouldnt-be-president-many-americans-agree/
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damn
I know, you seem to be getting it from all sides in the past week
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America, has to always hate someone. first it was black people, then jewish people, then women people, then gay people, then fat people, now muslim people. I wonder, who will be next.
Socilalists and Atheists get the least love. Followed by Muslims, evengelical Christians, and gays.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/09/20/ben-carson-says-a-muslim-shouldnt-be-president-many-americans-agree/
the good thing about being a socilalist atheist is they are hard to pick out in a line up
but they do tend to be found in coffee shops, so avoid them when the witch hunts begin
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Maybe we should just elect Carson president (http://www.marketplace.org/topics/elections/full-interview-dr-ben-carson-economy)
Ryssdal: Assuming you win, and we have in January of 2017, President Carson, what is your government going to look like?
Carson: Well it?s going to look like something that is looking out for every segment of our society. It?s going to be a government that recognizes that we only have 330 million people, and we?re competing on a global scale, global stage against China, India, both of whom have over a billion people. We need to maximize the potential of every single one of our people. You know, we need to understand that education is the great divide in our nation. There?s going to be a much more emphasis on educational choice. Also, recognizing that if we get defense wrong, nothing else matters, because we live in a hostile world. So you?re going to see our military capabilities improve quite substantially. You?re going to see us really taking care of our veterans rather than just talking about it. Recognizing that we have a 14 percent decrease in people applying for our volunteer military. That?s going to hurt us badly in the long run. You?re going to see us concentrating on our vulnerabilities, like our electrical grid, which is woefully vulnerable right now, from a number of possibilities. You?re going to see us beef up our cyber capabilities substantially, you?re going to see us respond to people who attack us in a way that they will never forget. You're going to see us get back into space, understanding that so many inventions came out of the space program. We cannot get behind in innovation, and in the future, he who controls space controls the Earth.
You're going to see much more proactive stance towards someone like Putin, you know, we're going to be much more active throughout the whole Baltic basin area, Eastern Europe, we're going to reestablish missile defense program, we're going to have more than one or two armored brigades in that area. We're gonna stand up to him, every place in the Middle East, we're not gonna back down. We're going to use our energy resources in an appropriate way, get rid of the energy exportation rules uh, that are archaic, put into place in the 1970s. We don't need those anymore. We're going to use the EPA to work with business, industry and academia to find the cleanest, most environmentally friendly ways to exploit our tremendous energy resources. We're going to use those to make Europe dependent on us for energy rather than Putin, put him back in his little box where he belongs. We're going to be taking a whole geopolitical strategy that is proactive, and not reactive.
Ryssdal: And just so I'm clear, you're going to do this while balancing the budget, not raising the debt and cutting the size of the government?
Carson: Exactly.
Ryssdal: OK.
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The most absurd thing in that is his idea that the US will, one day, be the natural resources provider for Europe instead of Russia and the middle East. That's just so insane it betrays a complete lack of understanding of geography and simple science.
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so who's the bigger clown - trump or carson?
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so who's the bigger clown - trump or carson?
I mean, they're both rapeshit crazy stupid mess-making idiots, but at least Trump is entertaining. Carson is one of those people who has perfected the art of confident delivery. He just seems so sure of what he's saying with his pronouncements of how easy it would be to make American great again. So if you don't want to think very hard -- which describes many, many Republicans -- then it's easy to say, well I'm sure he knows what he's talking about.
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so who's the bigger clown - trump or carson?
I mean, they're both rapeshit crazy stupid mess-making idiots, but at least Trump is entertaining. Carson is one of those people who has perfected the art of confident delivery. He just seems so sure of what he's saying with his pronouncements of how easy it would be to make American great again. So if you don't want to think very hard -- which describes many, many Republicans -- then it's easy to say, well I'm sure he knows what he's talking about.
I was going to type up something very similar to this. Carson is definitely the more "dangerous" candidate because some people actually believe there's substance there opposed to Trump. But that really doesn't address Sweet's question. Dangerous =/= crazy.
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But I think the overall narrative on Trump is that he's a buffoon who doesn't really take this all very seriously. I just cannot imagine that Trump becomes the GOP nominee. There's too much out there on him, and he's constantly at risk of going nuclear in a debate or an interview. But Carson is more of a smiling enigma that never seems to get ruffled. I don't think he'd survive the scrutiny either, but there's something chilling about him.
Honestly, Walker was the one I feared the most until he face-planted. Man, that guy is such a dweeb.
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Honestly, Walker was the one I feared the most until he face-planted. Man, that guy is such a dweeb.
If you told me Scott Walker wasn't going to be the nominee a year ago (sans scandal, dying, etc) I would've ate my hat. He really was the one person they could run out there who could win a national election. Of course, they then ate themselves as they are wont to do of late.
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Honestly, Walker was the one I feared the most until he face-planted. Man, that guy is such a dweeb.
If you told me Scott Walker wasn't going to be the nominee a year ago (sans scandal, dying, etc) I would've ate my hat. He really was the one person they could run out there who could win a national election. Of course, they then ate themselves as they are wont to do of late.
Would this country really elect someone without a college degree?
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(http://billpomerenk.com/travel/presidents/Harry_Truman/Harry_Truman.jpg)
"Fuck you"
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Would this country really elect someone without a college degree?
There are entire swaths of this country where "college educated" is a slur.
I put the odds of a non-college educated President astronomically higher than a gay, religious affiliation non-Christian*, vegetarian/vegan, or atheist President in 2016.
* - To clarify I mean "openly" non-one of those things. Someone who doesn't really believe in the Bible but attends church on camera and calls themselves a Christian counts as "Christian" for these purposes.
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Ben Carson was a great surgeon. I have no clue why he thinks he could be president. 0 experience.
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Ben Carson was a great surgeon. I have no clue why he thinks he could be president. 0 experience.
Barack Obama was a great community organizer. I have no clue why he thinks he could be president. 0 experience.
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Well, that's kind of cheating since he was a senator too. Obviously I'm not above cheating, per my Truman post on the previous page, but the bottom line is LCD Soundsystem is not reuniting at Coachella.
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Trump and Carson are both savants in their respective fields. Everywhere else they are out of their depths. Carson's apparent reserve is just the steely nerves of a surgeon.
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I wish I could've been a savant at surgery or international business instead of being a savant at eating old popcorn someone left behind in the previous showing of "Paul Blart Mallcop 2"
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Well, that's kind of cheating
funny, i think of more as obtuse. did obama have any experience as president? no (no one does, unless you're seeking a second term). did he have political and legislative experience? why yes, yes he did.
he was also a civil rights attorney and taught constitutional law at the university of chicago's law school... so, you know, he knew was he was getting into. clearly unlike carson or trump, who don't know where federal laws end and states' rights start.
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Having knowledge on a subject =/= "experience."
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Having knowledge on a subject =/= "experience."
did he have political and legislative experience? why yes, yes he did.
and agreed that knowledge =/= "experience", but the next best thing is being a professor on the topic at a top-flight law school. carson and trump have no idea what the relationships are between congress and the white house, who decides what, who can make the other do what, what the mechanics are... whereas obama taught on the topic.
look, we get it. you're still butthurt that obama won and hillary didn't. cheer up, you girl is getting a second at-bat.
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(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/151012123219-homepage-t1-democratic-candidates-101215-exlarge-169.jpg)
For some reason, I'm just not that excited about this one. I'll still watch it because it's a good excuse to get wasted, but there will be a hole that only an orange-haired billionaire balloon can fill.
That said, I think there's a 35% chance that Martin O'Malley takes off his shirt at some point. Dude needs to make waves. He could even play it off by saying "Ahhhh, much better, no one needs the chafee, ya know?"
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totally pointless debate...I may tune in during baseball commercial breaks
there is no compelling reason to watch this...
Hillary 2016
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Fear not -- https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/653868764094722048?ref_src=twsrc^tfw
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Well, I know that Trump on Twitter is a very special thing, but I cannot imagine that he'll be very quick on the draw. He'll make some comment about an answer that was given 7 questions earlier.
That said, I do hope to hear that "HRC looks like golden retriever left out in rain. Unique smell!"
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but I cannot imagine that he'll be very quick on the draw.
well you were wrong....as we know, trolling is easy
but for someone who wants to be president is just childish
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jeebus... cnn.com is straight-up fellating hillary.
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jeebus... cnn.com is straight-up fellating hillary.
good good...she's so damn likable too...
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jeebus... cnn.com is straight-up fellating hillary.
As they should.
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Your Drunk Neighbor: Donald Trump (https://www.patreon.com/posts/your-drunk-trump-3523042)
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Ben Carson shills for Manantech, promotes supplements as a cure for cancer. (http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2015/10/09/mannatech-ben-carsons-lack-of-critical-thinking-skills-extends-to-medicine-as-well/)
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(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/151027102347-trump-exlarge-169.jpg)
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I can't tell if that's a pumpkin, a love-pillow, or a giant testicle.
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(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/151027102347-trump-exlarge-169.jpg)
(http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Not-Sure-What-to-do-With-Hands-Talladega-Nights-Ricky-Bobby.gif)
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I can't tell if that's a pumpkin, a love-pillow, or a giant testicle.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/27/living/painted-celebrity-pumpkins-trump-irpt/index.html
(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/151027111714-trumpkin-sign-irpt-medium-plus-169.jpg)
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Apparently Donald Trump is even better at investing than Warren Buffett:
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-10-28/donald-trump-the-stock-picker-boasts-gains-that-nobody-can-match
But he still can't hold a candle to Hillary, who managed to beat odds ofone in 31 trillion (http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2FBF02920493) to turn $1,000 into $100,000 the one and only time she decided to play the commodities markets.
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connections, and whispers in the dark, will do that for you.
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so didn't watch last night and rode the bike in so no NPR recap (damn wet leaves made it sketchy)
But was hoping for some bordie insight to skewer the cads and post a good meme or two
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so didn't watch last night and rode the bike in so no NPR recap (damn wet leaves made it sketchy)
But was hoping for some bordie insight to skewer the cads and post a good meme or two
First of all, the overwhelming takeaway from the debate was that CNBC should never, ever host another debate. Virtually everything about the event was garbage. The pre-debate panel was unreal in its banality.
"Jeb Bush really needs to have a good night tonight."
"Ahhhh yes yes, hot take, etc."
And having fucking Jim Kramer coming on like a coked up Louis CK (and that's saying something) was unreal. And Rick Santelli was so aggravatingly annoying that I wanted to punch the television screen.
The whole thing was just a hot ass mess. Rubio is being judged to have "won" and he did manage to keep his quivering voice and flopsweating to a minimum. Loved the fact that Cruz spent the first half of the debate coughing and then made a pot brownie joke (that fell totally flat, of course).
Trump was ok but was invisible for too much of it. I did like his total takedown of Kasich. "You can have him!" and "FRACKING" were a few highlights.
More than anything though, CNBC's total incompetence displayed just how stupid it is to have all of these candidates at the debates. We've been in the race for a couple months now, and it's obvious that none of the Happy Hour debate candidates as well as Huckabee, Christie, Paul, Fiorina, or Kasich are going to get anywhere so they should be shut out so they get out.
Also, major LOLS at the GOP candidates accusing the Democrats of having a shallow debate.
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yup..pretty much..
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Relaxer...they need to put you on the Air...I mean probably the 2-4am slot
Also I've been meaning to ask...can you get Ofeibea Quist-Arcton to call my voice mail and just say Dakar!
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Also I've been meaning to ask...can you get Ofeibea Quist-Arcton to call my voice mail and just say Dakar!
so this is a thing? http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=582778
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Also I've been meaning to ask...can you get Ofeibea Quist-Arcton to call my voice mail and just say Dakar!
so this is a thing? http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=582778
I feel less weird knowing immediately what Sidehatch was referring to now that you've provided and entire subculture of people who thinks this is really noticeable.
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I tell you one thing, I COULD NOT get over Marco Rubio's ears last night. Dude is a damn elephant. Look at these shits.
(https://img.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_606w/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2015/08/11/National-Politics/Images/2016_GOP_Debate-09fac-5349.jpg)
I was tripping out on them so hard I started wondering if I was stoned and then I continued smoking huge amounts of marijuana.
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Marco Rubio as a precocious teen growing up on Vulcan:
(http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w137/BOOM-MOO/MERLIN/vulcan.jpg)
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Also I've been meaning to ask...can you get Ofeibea Quist-Arcton to call my voice mail and just say Dakar!
so this is a thing? http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=582778
I feel less weird knowing immediately what Sidehatch was referring to now that you've provided and entire subculture of people who thinks this is really noticeable.
I knew my people were out there!
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so didn't watch last night and rode the bike in so no NPR recap (damn wet leaves made it sketchy)
But was hoping for some bordie insight to skewer the cads and post a good meme or two
cnn has put together a 3-minute video mashup: http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/29/politics/republican-debate-2015-winners-losers/index.html
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Really RNC? Suspending your partnership with NBC News over the CNBC debate?
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
(http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/h403/skydancer30/1272964790_glenn-beck-crying.gif)
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Why couldn't we have had this Barry for the past 6-7 years? (http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/02/politics/obama-republicans-cnbc/)
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Why couldn't we have had this Barry for the past 6-7 years? (http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/02/politics/obama-republicans-cnbc/)
no doubt he's been great lately
I think there are a few reasons why we couldn't have this Barack Obama the past 6-7 years....
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I know, it's just such a bummer that we couldn't have had more "Cool Chill Barry" and less "Cautious Diplomatic Barack"
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I know, it's just such a bummer that we couldn't have had more "Cool Chill Barry" and less "Cautious Diplomatic Barack"
Totally with you....
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hmmm....wasn't Pot recently legalized in DC?????
makes you wonder if the choom gang is back together again??
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTAm8EIWwAAnXp3.jpg)
Well I'm on board!
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Powered by pizza and anal? What's, not to love?
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A new 60-second radio ad by Ben Carson?s campaign will begin airing Friday in eight markets ? including Atlanta, Detroit and Miami. The Carson campaign is putting $150,000 behind the ad, titled ?Freedom,? which takes the form of a rap song and is aimed at African-American voters.
The ad splices the calm voice of Mr. Carson, a retired pediatric neurosurgeon, with that of the artist Aspiring Mogul over a thumping club beat, with lyrics like, ?vote and support Ben Carson, for our next president, it?d be awesome.?
?If we want to get America back on track, we gotta vote Ben Carson as a matter of fact,? the rap concludes.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/listen-ben-carsons-rap-ad-aimed-african-american/story?id=34988082
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lol
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That's hilarious. Stupid Wall Street Journal doesn't know who that man is standing to Bernie Sanders' left. He is quite famous and should be imminently recognizable to anyone who follows politics, much less a news organization who purports to cover it. How foolish. I laugh at you, WSJ, for not knowing such an obvious thing that most people -- including myself -- most assuredly know.
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Not a real caption.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/martin-omalley-associated-press-caption_563bc6f5e4b0307f2cacaca2
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Good to know. I was pretty heartily laughing at the WSJ for not knowing who MARTIN O'MALLEY, TWO-TERM GOVERNOR OF MARYLAND, is. Boy, that would've been embarrassing for them.
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Well t'would appear that I have officially been owned. Typically I am not owned, nor do I own, but today has become a special day.
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Edgy Egyptian Memes just put this one up...
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Did anyone watch Trump on SNL? The laser harp thing was just weird. I only saw from there on. It was just so odd. This guy is actually running for President and he's not out of it yet.
I just can't with Ben Carson. Ugh.
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well I was kinda waiting on Cher's endorsement (http://www.ijreview.com/2015/10/453811-cher-asked-endorsement-donald-trump-response/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=Partners&utm_term=PRM17&ts_pid=2&utm_content=inf_10_74_2), so this kinda clinches it for me
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new cher record, new cher tour, yeahhhh. new cher book, new cher body frangrance, yeahhhh. and I thought this type of pre format publicity was dead.
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(http://i.imgur.com/zsqtzFy.jpg)
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beginning of the end?
Donald Trump begs Iowans not to believe Ben Carson: ?Don?t be fools, okay??
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/11/13/donald-trump-begs-iowans-not-to-believe-ben-carson-dont-be-fools-okay/
this is way out there, even for Trump.
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beginning of the end?
Donald Trump begs Iowans not to believe Ben Carson: ?Don?t be fools, okay??
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/11/13/donald-trump-begs-iowans-not-to-believe-ben-carson-dont-be-fools-okay/
this is way out there, even for Trump.
HAHA awesome
See, this is what I've been waiting for. There had to be a moment when Trump's pole position was threatened and he'd just lash out like a motherfucker.
I mean, one year ago, could you ever imagine that the GOP presidential front runner would say to a crowd "I would bomb the shit out of them" and continue to lead the polls? I lovitz!
(http://media.giphy.com/media/yTOeNLUKKgUsU/giphy-facebook_s.jpg)
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his, howard dean, moment?
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I watched this three times in a row. It's hilarious and brilliant (and only 2 minutes, so just watch it ya wieners)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=v2KQHMc7E5M (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=v2KQHMc7E5M)
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it was, good.
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Now people are talking about drafting Mitt Romney. That silver platter that Hillary's election is being served up on is pretty impressive. I'm moving to Bermuda.
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so tired of the republican response of 'I moving if so and so get's elected'
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Pretty sure we stole it from Sean Penn and the like back in 2000.
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Now people are talking about drafting Mitt Romney. That silver platter that Hillary's election is being served up on is pretty impressive. I'm moving to Bermuda.
Good riddance, you're a dick.
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this is actually from the onion, but it's pretty spot on
(http://i.onionstatic.com/onion/5195/3/original/960.jpg)
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You will pry my diamond-encrusted cane from my cold, dead hands.
I still don't know why we don't consider returning to feudalism.
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I watched this three times in a row. It's hilarious and brilliant (and only 2 minutes, so just watch it ya wieners)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=v2KQHMc7E5M (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=v2KQHMc7E5M)
this one is pretty great too (https://youtu.be/pL8VVZUAX5U)
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I watched this three times in a row. It's hilarious and brilliant (and only 2 minutes, so just watch it ya wieners)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=v2KQHMc7E5M (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=v2KQHMc7E5M)
this one is pretty great too (https://youtu.be/pL8VVZUAX5U)
HAHA
Not quite at the level of the GOP one, but still brilliant.
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I watched this three times in a row. It's hilarious and brilliant (and only 2 minutes, so just watch it ya wieners)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=v2KQHMc7E5M (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=v2KQHMc7E5M)
this one is pretty great too (https://youtu.be/pL8VVZUAX5U)
HAHA
Not quite at the level of the GOP one, but still brilliant.
agreed...poor jeb!
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Ok this will make you laugh
A Bad Lip Reading of the First Democratic Debate (https://youtu.be/V_yxGsWHx9o)
Have fun in staring class
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(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/v/t1.0-9/12219391_10153413458698401_8145053848457675632_n.jpg?oh=e5380d608b08081c594a45c162fa6c43&oe=56B51F7F)by Daniel Ryan
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the downward spiral continues: http://egbertowillies.com/2015/11/19/donald-trump-register-muslims-database/
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He is securing the James Ford constituency vote...
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He is securing the James Ford constituency vote...
Does your wife tell you how clever you are? but get your panties out of their wad, I'm likely voting for Hillary.
I'd take what that link says with a grain of salt though. Looks like a blog by a lefty wingnut rather than a certifiably trusted new source.
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And here I thought, hutch was bored with you.
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I'd take what that link says with a grain of salt though. Looks like a blog by a lefty wingnut rather than a certifiably trusted new source.
that blogger is definitely on the extreme left, but regardless of who posted it - trump said what he said. clearly the right isn't going to post this stuff, it's not in their interests.
so back to the point: trump wants to line up all muslims and register them in a national database, maybe even compel them to carry special ID at all times.
incoming references to a certain 1930's-1945 extreme-right european regime in 3... 2...
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I'd take what that link says with a grain of salt though. Looks like a blog by a lefty wingnut rather than a certifiably trusted new source.
that blogger is definitely on the extreme left, but regardless of who posted it - trump said what he said. clearly the right isn't going to post this stuff, it's not in their interests.
so back to the point: trump wants to line up all muslims and register them in a national database, maybe even compel them to carry special ID at all times.
incoming references to a certain 1930's-1945 extreme-right european regime in 3... 2...
I was being facetious in my critique of the blogger. I just think it's funny sometimes in forums that people can point to a source that is clearly left or right leaning, and quote a fact that is clearly a fact from that source...and someone on the other side of the aisle will say "Well that's not right because that's a wingnut source." When in reality, a fact is a fact regardless of the source.
Anyway, just to be clear I do not agree with the Donald on this issue. I think Hutch was making a clever funny in lumping me in with the Trump/Carson's of the world, but that's Hutch for you, always trying to take the piss on me.
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don..if you are going to race bait...guess you don't need facts (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/11/22/donald-trump-is-using-false-statistics-to-make-a-racist-point.html?via=desktop&source=facebook)
So don't like the Mexicans, Muslims, African Americans....hasn't really targeted the Norwegians yet
Watch out canned sardines...your next !!
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Norway does have the best metal....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dllo85ZSUk
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the downward spiral continues: http://egbertowillies.com/2015/11/19/donald-trump-register-muslims-database/
has anyone done a news story recently about donald trump supporters? it's probably clear to every person who watches that video that he's not capable of running this country, but what do other people see in this man? he just fires off these incredible one-liners and that's enough for majority support from the republican party?
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donald 0, marine 1:
http://www.ibtimes.com/who-tayyib-rashid-muslim-marine-whose-muslimid-tweet-donald-trump-went-viral-says-he-2195091
donald on oprah in '88: a douchebag, even back then!
20 years ago, Donald Trump told Oprah he?d only run for president under one condition
http://fusion.net/story/174515/donald-trump-president-oprah-interview/
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Donald Trump?s white fascist brigade: His rallies are now a safe space for racism (http://www.salon.com/2015/11/23/donald_trumps_white_fascist_brigade_his_rallies_are_now_a_safe_space_for_racism/)
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Trumps's supporters seem to be mostly disgusting examples of humans. Every single time I see an article about him, I know his followers are going to flood the comments with a deluge of garbage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6sZeJ8Wk6w
Just read some of those comments... WTF is wrong with people in 2015?
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He's been making shit (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/25/us/politics/in-renovation-of-golf-club-donald-trump-also-dressed-up-history.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0) up for a while now
(http://static01.nyt.com/images/2015/11/25/us/25TRUMPGOLFweb2/25TRUMPGOLFweb2-articleLarge.jpg)
In a phone interview, Mr. Trump called himself a ?a big history fan,? but deflected, played down and then simply disputed the local historians? assertions of historical fact.
?That was a prime site for river crossings,? Mr. Trump said. ?So, if people are crossing the river, and you happen to be in a civil war, I would say that people were shot ? a lot of them.?
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the interesting thing is Trump makes up shit to serve his political ends...
I dont' worry about Trump..its Cruz who actually believes what he says (and watches what he says and how he says it) that is more concerning...that guy is dangerous
Trump is a moderate.. .where he to get the nomination you'd see him immediately tone down his game and tack to the center..
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Trump is a moderate.. .where he to get the nomination you'd see him immediately tone down his game and tack to the center..
he can't at this point. there is no way he can walk back some of the sh*t he's said thus far.
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Cruz who actually believes what he says...that guy is dangerous
tru dat!
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Trump is a moderate.. .where he to get the nomination you'd see him immediately tone down his game and tack to the center..
he can't at this point. there is no way he can walk back some of the sh*t he's said thus far.
course he can! he'll just make up shit again.....
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the interesting thing is Trump makes up shit to serve his political ends...
I dont' worry about Trump..its Cruz who actually believes what he says (and watches what he says and how he says it) that is more concerning...that guy is dangerous
Trump is a moderate.. .where he to get the nomination you'd see him immediately tone down his game and tack to the center..
This is what my wife says as well, though she has no intention of voting for him. In addition to Cruz, she (and I) would add Carson to your list of "dangerous".
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"The numbers don't lie: He's as bad of a businessman as he is a politician."
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlp1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/12346366_1012752662151121_5149338458359612674_n.jpg?oh=010a21ad950f5ee4e518ef24378155a3&oe=56EB0D7A)
a Forbes article (http://www.forbes.com/sites/randalllane/2015/09/29/inside-the-epic-fantasy-thats-driven-donald-trump-for-33-years/) puts his net worth at $4.5B... still less than the S&P would have brought him.
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ballsy:
(http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.2453743.1449152447!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_400/kingprayer4n-7-web.jpg)
GOP presidential candidates offer prayers ? not solutions on gun control ? after San Bernardino massacre
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/gop-candidates-call-prayers-calf-massacre-article-1.2453261
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Private memo lays out how the GOP would deal with Trump as its nominee
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/private-memo-lays-out-how-the-gop-would-deal-with-trump-as-its-nominee/2015/12/02/78514cba-9909-11e5-94f0-9eeaff906ef3_story.html
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Countdown to a vimeo of a close-up of Trump reading the memo and then camera pulls back to show him sitting on a solid gold toilet and then wiping his ass with the memo and feeding it to a blind-folded and ball-gagged Scott Walker who lies whimpering at Trump's feet.
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You know... that actually sounds kinda hot.
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you know . . . I can never decide, whether responding to your own post, with a critique that ends in a sexual commentation, is either really creepy, or itself is indeed, hot.
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Countdown to a vimeo of a close-up of Trump reading the memo and then camera pulls back to show him sitting on a solid gold toilet and then wiping his ass with the memo and feeding it to a blind-folded and ball-gagged Scott Walker who lies whimpering at Trump's feet.
how can he feed it to him if he's ball-gagged
come on man...you can do better than that
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Countdown to a vimeo of a close-up of Trump reading the memo and then camera pulls back to show him sitting on a solid gold toilet and then wiping his ass with the memo and feeding it to a blind-folded and ball-gagged Scott Walker who lies whimpering at Trump's feet.
how can he feed it to him if he's ball-gagged
come on man...you can do better than that
Obviously through a tube up his anus. Like you would an alcohol enema but with a memo.
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"When you?re really smart, when you?re really, really smart like I am ? it?s true, it?s true, it?s always been true, it?s always been true.? - Donald Trump, Nov. 30, 2015
and have your cube-mate hum 'we are the champions' while you belt this out from your desk
No time for losers, 'cause we are the champions Trumpions....
I?ve paid my dues
Time after time
I?ve voted GOP
Almost straight, straight down the line
Bad candidates
I?ve picked a few
Clinton and John McCain
Bob Dole but now
With RINOs I?m through
And the wall will go on and on and on and on
We are the Trumpions - my friends
And we'll keep on fighting
Till the end
We are the Trumpions
We are the Trumpions
No time for losers
'Cause we are the Trumpions... of the World
I?ve taken my shots
At Carly and JEB
And I?ve knocked out Scott
And Huck, Rick Perry but no
Not Ted Cruz
It?s been no simple deal
Though I'm rich and smart
And wealthy and smart
And did I tell you ? that I am really really quite smart?
This race is huuuuge
And I ain't gonna lose
And the wall will go on and on and on and on
We are the Trumpions - my friends
And we'll keep on fighting
Till the end
We are the Trumpions
We are the Trumpions
No time for losers
'Cause we are the Trumpions... of the World
We are the Trumpions - my friends
And we'll keep on fighting
Till the end
We are the Trumpions
We are the Trumpions
No time for losers
'Cause we are the Trumpions
Posted by Ann Althouse at 6:02 PM
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You can actually own one (https://store.tedcruz.org/product/cruz-limited-edition-christmas-sweater/)
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You can actually own one (https://store.tedcruz.org/product/cruz-limited-edition-christmas-sweater/)
I bet half of the buyers will by necessity have to pay the additional $2 to get the 2XXL version.
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I would straight up buy that sweater if I could guarantee that Cruz would get zero dollars from the sale.
Maybe I'll just start running over people with my car in hopes I'll find the sweater on one of my victims.
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Maybe I'll just start running over people with my car in hopes I'll find the sweater on one of my victims.
he means on his bike with his boots on
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every time he says sh*t like that, i'm sure that this is the time that he'll run himself out of the race... then i remember how many other crazy things he's said and how it seems to have no effect on his popularity. then i cry.
GOP presidential front-runner Donald Trump urges ban on all Muslim entry to the U.S.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/07/politics/donald-trump-muslim-ban-immigration/index.html
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John Kasich on a sunday cnn show, I think, believes that trump will flame out by the end, and said some pretty smart things regarding how people vote and how to make sure to see everything from all angles.
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John Kasich on a sunday cnn show, I think, believes that trump will flame out by the end, and said some pretty smart things regarding how people vote and how to make sure to see everything from all angles.
Kasich is by far the best GOP candidate (as far as not being a nutjob). The fact that the party's base seems so opposed and far-fling from him says a lot.
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every time he says sh*t like that, i'm sure that this is the time that he'll run himself out of the race... then i remember how many other crazy things he's said and how it seems to have no effect on his popularity. then i cry.
GOP presidential front-runner Donald Trump urges ban on all Muslim entry to the U.S.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/07/politics/donald-trump-muslim-ban-immigration/index.html
I do not know that I agree with Trump but his position has occurred to me, as it has to many Americans, and I don't think it is a crazy one...doesn't mean I agree with it.. I am not sure.. I don't know but food for thought...
a country does get to determine who gets to emigrate to the United States...they make decisions every day on who they want.. how many from here or there... they interview people and make decisions...often times arbitrary..or do you think the consular officials who conduct interviews etc do not often use their personal judgment and opinion??? it is not a scientific process..... visit many Latin American countries and there are people lined up outside the US Embassy/Consulates for hours... all night.... at some point a choice is made on who to let visit and who not... After, for example, Argentina defaulted on its debt and many Argentines began to stay in the US illegally after their tourist visas expired the US decided to make it difficult for Argentines to even get the tourist visa.. I know of someone who wanted to visit family, was about 80 years old, and was not approved.. or refunded a couple of hundred bucks in processing fees (a lot of money at the time down there)..I feel that was a crazy decision but it happened... it happens all the time...point is the US makes these decisions all the time in light of what it considers to be in the best interests.. it discriminates all the time... maybe not predominantly on religion but certainly on nationality.. ie, where people are coming from, what they can offer, what the people who have already come from that place have done etc etc... It seems odd to think it weird to say "Hey 19 of the 20 hijackers where from Saudi Arabia, this woman came from there, they are full of Wahabi schools, Osama and his family are from there but hey lets prioritize letting in as many Saudis as people from other countries".... Maybe we can simply adjust the numbers.. but at the end of the day we do need to exercise some sort of criteria on whom to allow in to our country...
I'm not embracing this position but I don't think its unreasonable to consider we might not want people coming in from Saudi Arabia or Pakistan... Lets think about the female who mowed down 14 people... she was a Pakistani who had been in Saudi for a few years... why should she come to our country? Was it a good choice to let her come in to our country or would we have been better off not letting her come in?
I do think people who are in this country as Americans already have their rights as Americans...those cannot be taken away... but letting in new people? that is a privilege not a right.. and we can damn well decide how we go about doing it...
I also think its past time to stop with this baloney about how all religions are the same etc.. no, there is one religion that is producing a disproportionate amount of people who want to blow up things... I wish it weren't so but wishing don't make it so.... people say "oh its just a few bad apples.. a small percentage" but if we really look at the world we see many countries where fundamentalist Islamic governments have either been voted in or taken over by force and retained power.... when you see Islamists making strides in places like Turkey via the ballot box or Egypt (where the military then overthrew them...) you have to say wait a minute..its not just a few people here... these are two of the most strategically important countries in that area of the world and the Islamists won in both!
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im going to post this, before I even read all of that . . . but good lord, man.
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and let me add: it is not very easy to get entry to many places including Saudi Arabia....they certainly have no troubles barring Israelis...
Israelis that have never once attacked their country and yet we are supposed to fling our borders open to Saudis when 19 out of 20 9-11 hijackers were from Saudi, Osama was from there etc etc
Come on now? You will say that is what makes us different? I hope you won't say that because the difference is the Israelis pose no threat to Saudi whereas Saudis have effected great damage on our country.
There are some unfortunate realities at play here...I don't think I would say ban muslims from coming to the US.. I would probably increasingly limit their numbers and simply double down on the interview/background/forms process.... that sort of stuff happens all the time and if it has not happened yet it should happen...
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FFS really?
Franz Ferdinand Sparks?
food for thought.. hopefully you don't refuse to read what I wrote... I'm open to all points of view... America is going to have this conversation- heck its having it right now as we speak- whether you enjoy it or not.
I am open minded.. are you? Being open minded does not mean you adopt an idea.. you just think about it and discuss it rationally. Now if you think its irrational to even talk about it because you feel the opposing viewpoint does not merit the least consideration then , well, you are entitled to think so...
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No it means FOR FUCKS SAKE. ::)
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As diplomatically as you framed that, Hutch, stating religion should be a credulity test to enter the United States of America is appalling.
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As diplomatically as you framed that, Hutch, stating religion should be a credulity test to enter the United States of America is appalling.
Do you think Communists should have been allowed into the country during the Cold War?
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As diplomatically as you framed that, Hutch, stating religion should be a credulity test to enter the United States of America is appalling.
Do you think Communists should have been allowed into the country during the Cold War?
Communism is a religion? And, yes.
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Hutch, the role of Rhett is already being played by, well, Rhett.
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As diplomatically as you framed that, Hutch, stating religion should be a credulity test to enter the United States of America is appalling.
Do you think Communists should have been allowed into the country during the Cold War?
Communism is a religion? And, yes.
I don't know if Communism is a religion, but in many parts of the world Islam is a political system.
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I think Ali Rizvi said it well on November 14:
https://www.facebook.com/ali.a.rizvi/posts/10102746230703608
The failure of Western liberals to honestly acknowledge the problem of Islamic jihad only strengthens Marine Le Pen & the National Front. This is not good.
I hope my fellow liberals will do more from here on to align themselves with their counterparts -- the dissidents in the Islamic world. The fight against Islamic jihad should come from a position of moral strength, not xenophobic bigotry. This is a fight that liberals should take on themselves before it's hijacked by the far right.
Kudos to Anderson Cooper for having Maajid Nawaz on tonight, and to Bill Maher for having Asra Nomani. These are the kinds of voices liberals should be boosting as the future of the Muslim world we want to see.
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As diplomatically as you framed that, Hutch, stating religion should be a credulity test to enter the United States of America is appalling.
Well I don't think I exactly stated that Julian.
First of all, this is a discussion..there is nothing wrong with having it.
It doesn't have to be religion.. it can simply be most people from certain places who will of course happen to be of a certain religion...
This type of thing goes on all the time...
I don't think saying "we will not allow muslims in the US as immigrants or tourists" is possible or productive...but cutting down substantially over a few year span on the amount of foreign people from countries where large majorities of the people seem to despise us is doable...Government doesn't have to announce its discrimination policies.. it discriminates all the time on how it awards visas, permits etc.... in fact, arguably, that is one of its major roles...
I mean take Saudi Arabia.. do you know what kind of country you are talking about? We are supposed to go out of our way to take in Saudis when they won't let Israeli and arguably Jews into their country? When American women who go to Saudi Arabia with Saudi husband can only leave the country without their children?? Do you think the Saudi government does anything to help these American women?
Its very simple... every year for the next 10 years you lower the amount of people being let in from these places by say 10% per year (both as immigrants and tourists)... at the end you should maintain some token -very seriously checked out- cases admitted so that people can't say we don't allow muslims or people from these countries...
Now of course if Saudi Arabia, Turkey and many other of our friends in the region want to crack down on ISIS and somehow in the Middle East all of a sudden these "few radical extremists" disappear then we can reconsider our immigration/tourist levels... Doesn't seem like such a strange measure to me .. Plenty of people from Latin America more than happy to come in to the US legally.. never heard of international terrorists from these countries..that should count for something in their favor vis a vis their Middle Eastern brethren I should say unless we don't consider terrorism a threat.
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. . . but good lord, man.
kinda felt the same way
another thread bites the dust, another thread....heeey eeya eeya eeeaya eyeaaaah
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. . . but good lord, man.
kinda felt the same way
another thread bites the dust, another thread....heeey eeya eeya eeeaya eyeaaaah
What thread bit the dust? Did I miss something?
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never heard of international terrorists from these countries..
what about this cigar lover
(http://cdn8.openculture.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/sartre-che-smoke.jpg)
although some might consider Sartre (http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/literature/laureates/1964/sartre-bio.html) an international terrorist too
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. . . but good lord, man.
kinda felt the same way
another thread bites the dust, another thread....heeey eeya eeya eeeaya eyeaaaah
What thread bit the dust? Did I miss something?
Koz most likely hasn't had a chance to catch up on todays musings
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. . . but good lord, man.
kinda felt the same way
another thread bites the dust, another thread....heeey eeya eeya eeeaya eyeaaaah
What thread bit the dust? Did I miss something?
Koz most likely hasn't had a chance to catch up on todays musings
Agree with him or not, but bravo to Hutch for at least attempting to have a dialogue. Are you suggesting that the proper reply is to simply delete the thread?
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come on Kosmo is cool as a cucumber.. stop trying to make something out of nothing Sidehatch.
I hear two main arguments for why limiting the number of muslims coming in to the US is a bad idea
1. Its against who we are blah blah...this is the same argument we hear very often when there is no good argument....I really don't get this one...I mean I get that for the populace we pretend we don't discriminate but when we consider who to take in from where we do it all the time... heck, we even have countries from which people don't require visas to visit the US ..so we do discriminate plenty..we may not think about it in such terms but we are always picking who gets to come in... .I don't know if it still exists but in the 80s and 90s if you pledged to invest a certain amount of money in the US (say starting a business) you got your green card like snap...pretty sure program still exists.. if you're poor: tough shit. These are the kinds of things that happen every day in America but people don't know or don't talk about them.
2. The more compelling one - and I am unclear on what it is- seems to go something like this.. "Muslims are going to be so pissed off (and we know they get ticked off real easy) that they are going to join ISIS in droves and start blowing shit up....also it will drive a wedge between American Muslims and American non-muslims.....and the American muslims will presumably start blowing shit up because they get angry real easy".... I find this one difficult to swallow.. I mean if you're going to get pissed off that easily that you go join ISIS and start beheading people we probably don't want you in our country anyways...presumably
Anyways, regardless of how people may not feel it lives up to our Americanness you better believe women seeking to come to America from Saudi who met their husbands online dating ain't coming to no more. And any that already came in during the same time frame as this piece of shit are probably being questioned as we speak or being put on a plane back to Saudi....
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How do you screen for Muslim? Do you just know them when you see them? Do you rely on them to report their religion accurately?
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How do you screen for Muslim? Do you just know them when you see them? Do you rely on them to report their religion accurately?
I think James will have an answer shortly
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Jesse LaGreca
@JesseLaGreca
New test: replace the word "Muslims" with "Jews" and then ask yourself "Do I sound like a fucking Nazi?"
https://twitter.com/JesseLaGreca/status/673280186083840000
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Jesse LaGreca
@JesseLaGreca
New test: replace the word "Muslims" with "Jews" and then ask yourself "Do I sound like a fucking Nazi?"
https://twitter.com/JesseLaGreca/status/673280186083840000
Isn't it the Saudis who most closely resemble modern day Nazis?
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How do you screen for Muslim? Do you just know them when you see them? Do you rely on them to report their religion accurately?
I think James will have an answer shortly
There are 26 countries that have Muslim populations of 95% or more, including 18 countries with 98% or more. Citizenship in those countries might be a good indicator.
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Estimates vary widely as to the number of gay men imprisoned in concentration camps during the Holocaust, ranging from 5,000 to 15,000, many of whom died.
http://www.holocaustforgotten.com/fivmil.htm
Some human rights activists and opponents of the Iranian regime claim between 4,000 and 6,000 gay men and lesbians have been executed in Iran for crimes related to their sexual orientation since 1979.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Iran
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Joe Scarborough Cuts Off Donald Trump Mid-Interview for ?Just Talking? After Muslim Ban Comments on Morning Joe
http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/joe-scarborough-ends-donald-trump-interview-after-muslim-ban-comments-w159213
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Jesse LaGreca
@JesseLaGreca
New test: replace the word "Muslims" with "Jews" and then ask yourself "Do I sound like a fucking Nazi?"
https://twitter.com/JesseLaGreca/status/673280186083840000
I don't like how those Jewish Extremists are cutting off people's heads for being non-believers.
Hmmm...does that sound like NAZI talk?
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Jesse LaGreca
@JesseLaGreca
New test: replace the word "Muslims" with "Jews" and then ask yourself "Do I sound like a fucking Nazi?"
https://twitter.com/JesseLaGreca/status/673280186083840000
Isn't it the Saudis who most closely resemble modern day Nazis?
i'm certainly not arguing that. actually, i will argue one thing: it's the saudi regime, not the saudis as a whole.
but that means the hate-all-muslim'ers are on the same level as the saudi regime and the nazis. nice company they're keeping!
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Jesse LaGreca
@JesseLaGreca
New test: replace the word "Muslims" with "Jews" and then ask yourself "Do I sound like a fucking Nazi?"
https://twitter.com/JesseLaGreca/status/673280186083840000
I don't like how those Jewish Extremists are cutting off people's heads for being non-believers.
Hmmm...does that sound like NAZI talk?
i fear you've missed the point here.
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Jesse LaGreca
@JesseLaGreca
New test: replace the word "Muslims" with "Jews" and then ask yourself "Do I sound like a fucking Nazi?"
https://twitter.com/JesseLaGreca/status/673280186083840000
I don't like how those Jewish Extremists are cutting off people's heads for being non-believers.
Hmmm...does that sound like NAZI talk?
(http://i.imgur.com/UkJXKIf.png?1)
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Jesse LaGreca
@JesseLaGreca
New test: replace the word "Muslims" with "Jews" and then ask yourself "Do I sound like a fucking Nazi?"
https://twitter.com/JesseLaGreca/status/673280186083840000
Isn't it the Saudis who most closely resemble modern day Nazis?
i'm certainly not arguing that. actually, i will argue one thing: it's the saudi regime, not the saudis as a whole.
but that means the hate-all-muslim'ers are on the same level as the saudi regime and the nazis. nice company they're keeping!
I'm not saying I myself hate anybody. But doesn't the level those three you list are on kind of depend on what ways they carry out the hatred? There's a big difference between hating an ideology and cooking people in an oven.
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I'm not saying I myself hate anybody. But doesn't the level those three you list are on kind of depend on what ways they carry out the hatred? There's a big difference between hating an ideology and cooking people in an oven.
(http://i.imgur.com/itdcvLM.jpg)
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Everyone RELAX. Trump just released a new campaign flyer:
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpl1/v/t1.0-9/12341332_1001349509906224_813013382927640680_n.png?oh=b04a9e47fbb328e3729f726a0a5eb24a&oe=56D7F123)
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I'm not saying I myself hate anybody. But doesn't the level those three you list are on kind of depend on what ways they carry out the hatred? There's a big difference between hating an ideology and cooking people in an oven.
(http://i.imgur.com/itdcvLM.jpg)
Also, you never really see a mass shooting carried out by the overweight, now do you? Perhaps the skinny amongst us are the true danger.
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Also, you never really see a mass shooting carried out by the overweight, now do you? Perhaps the skinny amongst us are the true danger.
I mean, that's about as sensical as what Hutch and Rhett have been spewing in this thread for thelast 48 hours.
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I don't hate muslims at all... there is nothing hateful about saying that maybe we should consider slowing down the number of muslims we let into America because, you know, they seem to have some sort of problem with us so lets cool it a bit....
I notice nothing I wrote was responded to.. just kind of universal its not "sensical" and resorting to Joe Scarborough (talk about clowns)... unsurprising really.
I really have no interest in continuing this monologue...let it be written I tried to have a dialogue about it and nobody cared to respond..... I don't support Donald Trump although I'd take him any day over Cruz, Rubio or any number of other Republicans... Kasich would be my pick...I will be voting for Hillary. .. I realize muslims coming into this country will diminish not via some formal announcement but via Embassy/Consulate policies.. and profiling of muslims will also continue to increase.... I don't live in some naïve fantasy world.
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some of these GIFs are too sophisticated for me...
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some of these GIFs are too sophisticated for me...
Bigots do, generally, lack sophistication and refinement.
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some of these GIFs are too sophisticated for me...
Bigots do, generally, lack sophistication and refinement.
no recourse but name calling eh?
I do have a problem with muslims whose belief is jihad against America.. seems to me they are the bigots..I'd rather keep them out and err on the side of caution....
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yup, this guy is pure leadership material.
Trump says ?closing that Internet? is a good way to fight terrorism
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/12/trump-wants-bill-gates-to-help-close-that-internet-from-terrorists/
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Also, you never really see a mass shooting carried out by the overweight, now do you? Perhaps the skinny amongst us are the true danger.
I mean, that's about as sensical as what Hutch and Rhett have been spewing in this thread for thelast 48 hours.
I don't know...Jaded might be on to something here
I don't think any of the mass shooters in the US were over a 26 BMI
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some of these GIFs are too sophisticated for me...
Bigots do, generally, lack sophistication and refinement.
no recourse but name calling eh?
I do have a problem with muslims whose belief is jihad against America.. seems to me they are the bigots..I'd rather keep them out and err on the side of caution....
Hutch, that's about all you're going to get out of this crowd is namecalling rather than honest dialogue. Even when what you (and I mean you, Hutch) say is measured and intelligently put forth in a non-troll like fashion.
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Wounded British soldier shuts up anti-Muslim racists with epic message
https://tompride.wordpress.com/2015/12/08/wounded-british-soldier-shuts-up-anti-muslim-racists-with-epic-message/ (original source (https://www.facebook.com/chris.herbert6420/posts/10153191869156434?pnref=story))
This Neo-Nazi Response To Donald Trump's Anti-Muslim Plan Says It All
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-neo-nazi-support_56660b92e4b079b2818fcd36
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yup, this guy is pure leadership material.
Trump says ?closing that Internet? is a good way to fight terrorism
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/12/trump-wants-bill-gates-to-help-close-that-internet-from-terrorists/
He namedrops Bill Gates not because Gates is an internet guru (which he's not) but because Gates is the only COM-PU-TER guy that his supporters have heard of.
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I don't hate muslims at all... there is nothing hateful about saying that maybe we should consider slowing down the number of muslims we let into America because, you know, they seem to have some sort of problem with us so lets cool it a bit....
there is something quite hateful about saying that. you can't discriminate against the 99.999% because there is an evil 0.001%.
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some of these GIFs are too sophisticated for me...
Bigots do, generally, lack sophistication and refinement.
no recourse but name calling eh?
I do have a problem with muslims whose belief is jihad against America.. seems to me they are the bigots..I'd rather keep them out and err on the side of caution....
Again, how do you propose identifying and eliminating the targets of your policy?
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I don't hate muslims at all... there is nothing hateful about saying that maybe we should consider slowing down the number of muslims we let into America because, you know, they seem to have some sort of problem with us so lets cool it a bit....
there is something quite hateful about saying that. you can't discriminate against the 99.999% because there is an evil 0.001%.
I think he already explained that immigration is a privilege, not a right. We're the one's providing the privilege, we make the rules.
Do you really think the evil is only 0.001%? As in only i in out of every 100,000 (foreign) Muslims are radical or hold sympathies with radical thought? Al Jazeera would argue otherwise.
http://www.commdiginews.com/featured/al-jazeera-poll-suggests-81-of-arab-muslims-support-isis-42253/
Or how about this one?
Quarter of British Muslims sympathise with Charlie Hebdo terrorists
Some 27 per cent of British Muslims sympathise with Paris gunmen, while more than one in ten say satirical cartoons "deserve" to be attacked
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/11433776/Quarter-of-British-Muslims-sympathise-with-Charlie-Hebdo-terrorists.html
If someone gave you a case of KBS and told you there were a couple of bottles with undetectable, letha1 doses of poison in them, would you discriminate against Founders and throw the who case away?
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How do you screen for Muslim? Do you just know them when you see them? Do you rely on them to report their religion accurately?
Shibboleth (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqkaBEWPH18)
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How do you screen for Muslim? Do you just know them when you see them? Do you rely on them to report their religion accurately?
Shibboleth (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqkaBEWPH18)
POTW.
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Have your fat postings been permanently moved to this thread?
I'll bite on this one. Pierce Brosnan and Hugh Jackman both have wives that are not skinny.
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Have your fat postings been permanently moved to this thread?
Well, some people didn't like them in random thoughts. I figure the best compromise was I continue to post them in a way that interrupts the Hutch and Rhett Islamophobia Hour.
I'll bite on this one. Pierce Brosnan and Hugh Jackman both have wives that are not skinny.
Don't let facts get in the way of fat people convincing themselves they're oppressed.
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Have your fat postings been permanently moved to this thread?
Well, some people didn't like them in random thoughts. I figure the best compromise was I continue to post them in a way that interrupts the Hutch and Rhett Islamophobia Hour.
I'll bite on this one. Pierce Brosnan and Hugh Jackman both have wives that are not skinny.
Don't let facts get in the way of fat people convincing themselves they're oppressed.
Well that's a novel and new form of censorship. Not sure how effective that is, but I'll give you creativity points. Typically genius Julian.
Another way to get opinions you don't like to go away is to offer some substantive counterpoints to convince your opponent that their opinion is incorrect.
Another option is to ignore the posts, eventually the person will realize they have no audience and stop posting. And even if they don't, they're being ignored, so what does it matter?
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fas,cinating.
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Typically genius Julian.
Julian, purported typically GENIUS
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I don't hate muslims at all... there is nothing hateful about saying that maybe we should consider slowing down the number of muslims we let into America because, you know, they seem to have some sort of problem with us so lets cool it a bit....
there is something quite hateful about saying that. you can't discriminate against the 99.999% because there is an evil 0.001%.
couldn't agree more
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I don't hate muslims at all... there is nothing hateful about saying that maybe we should consider slowing down the number of muslims we let into America because, you know, they seem to have some sort of problem with us so lets cool it a bit....
there is something quite hateful about saying that. you can't discriminate against the 99.999% because there is an evil 0.001%.
couldn't agree more
Do you get a quick rush from the feeling of moral superiority that making that post gives you?
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nonsense.. our government discriminates against people all the time... or why do you think people from certain countries will now be scrutinized while people from others are not? you can say its not because of religion but there is a very very strong correlation..
what we can't do is discriminate against US citizens (the US constitution is pretty clear but it does not apply to Syrian nationals, etc.).. BTW what do you think happens when our drones drop bombs in Yemen, Pakistan or Syria?? Do you really think nobody around the targets dies??
there is a very naïve understanding by some people on this thread of how things work in the world...
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2015/12/08/visa-waiver-program-house-senate-europe/76978544/
personally I disagree with what Trump said not because I disagree entirely with what he said but because its just one of those things you don't say... its kind of like torture.. do I think the US government should never use torture? no.. but they should say they never use torture. in the same way our government should never admit it discriminates against foreign nationals based on their religion, country of origin, etc.. but it will discriminate as it always has done... that is what granting visas/work permits/nationality is: one big discrimination
and I welcome a discussion about it within the context of trying to increase security in the US and lessen terrorist threats.....unfortunately the childish tone of liberals screaming comparisons between Hitler and Trump only serves to derail what could be a productive discussion.. Trump is Hitler now? Really? come on now.
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there is something quite hateful about saying that. you can't discriminate against the 99.999% because there is an evil 0.001%.
couldn't agree more
Do you get a quick rush from the feeling of moral superiority that making that post gives you?
no I don't...but creating policies that punish people who are running away from persecution I can't agree with.
I'd much rather deal with the gun issue than ban Muslims from entering
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and before what I wrote about torture gets taken out of context.. of course I do not like or wish for the USA to torture anybody.. but I cannot limit the government from utilizing it in every possible imaginable case.. I can't predict if there could be a case in the future where torture was necessary..
but the government should say "we don't torture, end of story" just like it should say "we don't discriminate on the basis of religion in awarding visas/work permits/citizenship" etc..
and it should try, as much as possible, to carry its business in accordance with those statements.. but if you have Saudi nationals coming to this country to kill us.. well, you might have to put a stop to that.. and some people who have no intention of harming us will be adversely affected too.. that is unfortunate..
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As diplomatically as you framed that, Hutch, stating religion should be a credulity test to enter the United States of America is appalling.
Well I don't think I exactly stated that Julian.
First of all, this is a discussion..there is nothing wrong with having it.
It doesn't have to be religion.. it can simply be most people from certain places who will of course happen to be of a certain religion...
This type of thing goes on all the time...
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I guess my view is that what Trump said is rather boneheaded but there is an element of wisdom in it.. if you have a people from a certain group of people trying to harm you, well, you might have to take a look at placing limits on those people and that may have an adverse impact on the group of people as a whole... that is "discrimination" but the job of our government is to protect Americans not the "phantom rights" of non-Americans not to be discriminated against.... if you think how hard it is to migrate to this country I'm not sure what is so difficult to understand about this routine type of discrimination...
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there is something quite hateful about saying that. you can't discriminate against the 99.999% because there is an evil 0.001%.
couldn't agree more
Do you get a quick rush from the feeling of moral superiority that making that post gives you?
no I don't...but creating policies that punish people who are running away from persecution I can't agree with.
I'd much rather deal with the gun issue than ban Muslims from entering
I don't think you'd get an argument from me regarding that. But prioritizing American safety by erring on the side of caution is hardly "hateful".
Hateful is the 76% of Muslims in South Asia who are in favor of apostasy.
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there is something quite hateful about saying that. you can't discriminate against the 99.999% because there is an evil 0.001%.
couldn't agree more
Do you get a quick rush from the feeling of moral superiority that making that post gives you?
no I don't...but creating policies that punish people who are running away from persecution I can't agree with.
I'd much rather deal with the gun issue than ban Muslims from entering
was that Saudi woman that killed 14 people running away from persecution?
(question is rhetorical but in case you don't know she was not running away from persecution)
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I guess what Sidehatch is arguing is that we must let in the woman from Saudi cause we don't know if she is running away from persecution or not so she could be?
Preposterous.... you could make the case that anybody fleeing Saudi was running away from persecution so with that nonsense reasoning we must let in any Saudi...
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I guess what Sidehatch is arguing is that we must let in the woman from Saudi cause we don't know if she is running away from persecution or not so she could be?
Preposterous.... you could make the case that anybody fleeing Saudi was running away from persecution so with that nonsense reasoning we must let in any Saudi...
There's one Saudi I'd let in for sure...Raif Badawi.
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nobody cares
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nobody cares
I suppose more people care about what music you're currently listening to, but if you're referring to my post, 92,500 people care.
http://e-activist.com/ea-action/action?ea.client.id=1770&ea.campaign.id=32768
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Ouch . . . A backslash, on a new page.
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Hey everybody look at my HUUUUUUUGE poll numbers!!!!
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At what point do we start droning him, now that we have identified his as the true enemy?
Pretty hypocritical that folks in England wants to ban the bigot Donald Trump but they let Anjem Choudary spend his every day in their country. But I guess Trump is the true enemy.
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I think GGW previously posited this idea:
Is Trump Working for Hillary?
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/428222/donald-trump-hillary-clinton
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Nah, there's no way he's doing this for the benefit of the Democrats or for anything other than elevating himself. He's someone who needs to be loved and seen as THE BEST, and if he's smart enough to be manipulating his public persona, then he's smart enough to see how badly he's damaging his 'brand'. And his brand is the most important thing in the whole world to him. I can't imagine he'd allow that to be tarnished in the service of someone else.
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trump won't get the nomination, he'll launch a third-party bid, splits the conservative vote, hillary wins.
the alternative is that he does get the nom and hillary still wins as he's un-electable. zero chance that a majority of swing voters will pick him and a good chuck of republicans won't turn up on election day.
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trump won't get the nomination, he'll launch a third-party bid, splits the conservative vote, hillary wins.
That's been my dream scenario since day one
Clinton would have never won with out Perot
although there are a lot who argue that wasn't the case (http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/ross-perot-myth-reborn-amid-rumors-third-party-trump-candidacy) I kinda disagree
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Trump has no chance of ever being elected President but long may he run....rooting for him to get nomination...
I think the Republican party is in a pickle...
Only way they can get rid of him now is to after him so hard making it easy for him to justify a third party run... remember he always said he expected to be "treated fairly"
so if they go hard he runs as an indie and hurts Republicans just a little bit more.. if they don't go hard he looks like he could well get nomination..
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(http://i.imgur.com/03TpGTU.png)
Probably the most important thing I've ever posted. Anyone who argues fat acceptance is basically a terrorist.
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Ouch . . . A backslash, on a new page.
I know right?
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Trumpism is a natural consequence of the GOP refusing to moderate on taxes or immigration
http://www.vox.com/2015/12/10/9882762/trump-missing-white-voters
"Trump is frightening Republicans in part because he's "showing them what it takes" to run and win as the party of disaffected white people in an increasingly nonwhite country. They don't like what they see, but as a movement they've committed to the kind of political strategy that he was pursuing ? a strategy built around the notion that the 2012 election featured a pile of "missing" white voters who could be activated to push the GOP to victory without it needing to do anything to broaden its demographic appeal."
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Trumpism is a natural consequence of the GOP refusing to moderate on taxes or immigration
http://www.vox.com/2015/12/10/9882762/trump-missing-white-voters
"Trump is frightening Republicans in part because he's "showing them what it takes" to run and win as the party of disaffected white people in an increasingly nonwhite country. They don't like what they see, but as a movement they've committed to the kind of political strategy that he was pursuing ? a strategy built around the notion that the 2012 election featured a pile of "missing" white voters who could be activated to push the GOP to victory without it needing to do anything to broaden its demographic appeal."
That's funny, because I've read arguments that Trump's far right stance on Islamic Extremism is a result of Obama not having one.
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I guess what Sidehatch is arguing is that we must let in the woman from Saudi cause we don't know if she is running away from persecution or not so she could be?
Preposterous.... you could make the case that anybody fleeing Saudi was running away from persecution so with that nonsense reasoning we must let in any Saudi...
There's one Saudi I'd let in for sure...Raif Badawi.
Can we please trade Donald Trump for this guy?
http://www.thestar.com/news/world/2015/12/10/saudi-blogger-raif-badawi-on-hunger-strike-after-prison-transfer.html
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since KV won't let me post in the Fascist tread...I'll have to put this here
I asked 5 fascism experts whether Donald Trump is a fascist. Here's what they said. (http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2015/12/10/9886152/donald-trump-fascism)
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don't you feel this theory about whether Donald Trump being a fascist is flawed . . . due to the simple fact, that we cannot see the future of Donald trump and what he would and could do as president.
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Donald Trump Really Doesn?t Want Me to Tell You This, But ? (http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2015/12/donald-trump-mark-bowden-playboy-profile)
great slideshow of the history of his hair (hairography?) at the end of the article.
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(http://i.imgur.com/AA0ywSA.jpg)
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I think we already posted this, but I just watched it again this morning and it is SO GOOD.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fbi7jNI1yOQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fbi7jNI1yOQ)
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since this is the de-facto politics thread...I'll put this here
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/12316660_1662709600665857_7256569936669171607_n.jpg?oh=e6e30e9e00c4593503783e9248f23307&oe=56E26EED)
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meet trump's supporters!
http://egbertowillies.com/2015/12/14/d-trumps-supporters-speak-and-it-is-as-bad-as-you-think-video/
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media bullshit..
fromthis point on don't believe anything the media says about trump as they are fixated on taking himdown...
personally I hope they take him down and the republicans get cruz...talk about unelectable.. and yes he is a maniac
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Cruz's views are legitimately frightening and awful, but unlike Trump, Cruz actually understands how to win an election. Trump thinks he can just show up, promise the world, demonize his opposition, and sail to victory. Cruz understands how you win elections at the grassroots level. The post had a very interesting article this weekend about how Cruz is being extremely savvy with data mining of Republicans.
I will say though that I don't understand at all what you mean by "don't believe anything the media says about Trump." When you say "the media" who exactly do you mean? The media -- as in, news-reporting media, not pundits or op-edders or Fox News heads -- are the only ones showing what a lying megalomaniac Trump is.
I mean, Trump's base love him because they see him as honest and "one of us" and he is absolutely, positively neither of those things. It's really incredible.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDyOGIGFtfM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDyOGIGFtfM)
Here's a Trump supporter.
The beauty of it is that she is lying, lying, lying herself, as she's a member of the state House.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDyOGIGFtfM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDyOGIGFtfM)
Here's a Trump supporter.
The beauty of it is that she is lying, lying, lying herself, as she's a member of the state House.
^ that was scary
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Call it the Republican establishment's nightmare scenario.
The GOP establishment, confronted by a recalcitrant electorate that refuses to leave Donald Trump, is being forced to take a fresh look at Ted Cruz, a man with grassroots strength in key early primary states and few friends in Washington.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/14/politics/ted-cruz-donald-trump-republican-establishment/index.html
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She must not be a real Trump supporter because that article from above says:
They say they do not believe everything he says. They know he is lying in order to get his issues addressed.
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Cruz's views are legitimately frightening and awful, but unlike Trump, Cruz actually understands how to win an election.
Cruz has zero chance.. less chance than even Trump of winning the election.. his views are way way extreme right.. Trump is actually fairly moderate... once people beginning looking into Cruz they are going to be scared.. he is a "maniac"
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Cruz's views are legitimately frightening and awful, but unlike Trump, Cruz actually understands how to win an election.
Cruz has zero chance.. less chance than even Trump of winning the election.. his views are way way extreme right.. Trump is actually fairly moderate... once people beginning looking into Cruz they are going to be scared.. he is a "maniac"
Correction -- Trump *was* fairly moderate. Have you heard about his latest proposals about forcibly evicting 10+ million people from the country, building a Berlin Wall along a 1,500-mile border, implementing religious litmus tests at our borders, bombing multiple locations around the world, etc?
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Cruz's views are legitimately frightening and awful, but unlike Trump, Cruz actually understands how to win an election.
Cruz has zero chance.. less chance than even Trump of winning the election.. his views are way way extreme right.. Trump is actually fairly moderate... once people beginning looking into Cruz they are going to be scared.. he is a "maniac"
Correction -- Trump *was* fairly moderate. Have you heard about his latest proposals about forcibly evicting 10+ million people from the country, building a Berlin Wall along a 1,500-mile border, implementing religious litmus tests at our borders, bombing multiple locations around the world, etc?
he doesn't believe any of that and would do none of it....just saying it to get votes... I guess that makes him a demagogue though...
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Cruz's views are legitimately frightening and awful, but unlike Trump, Cruz actually understands how to win an election.
Cruz has zero chance.. less chance than even Trump of winning the election.. his views are way way extreme right.. Trump is actually fairly moderate... once people beginning looking into Cruz they are going to be scared.. he is a "maniac"
Correction -- Trump *was* fairly moderate. Have you heard about his latest proposals about forcibly evicting 10+ million people from the country, building a Berlin Wall along a 1,500-mile border, implementing religious litmus tests at our borders, bombing multiple locations around the world, etc?
When did Trump say he wanted to forcibly evict 10+ million people from the country?
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uhm, hello.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/nov/11/donald-trump/trump-eisenhower-deported-15-million-immigrants/
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uhm, hello.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/nov/11/donald-trump/trump-eisenhower-deported-15-million-immigrants/
Holy crap. I honestly had no idea there were that many illegal immigrants in the USA.
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us population is roughly 350 million right now. undocumented "illegal" population is roughly 7 to 10 million. is that, really a lot?
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us population is roughly 350 million right now. undocumented "illegal" population is roughly 7 to 10 million. is that, really a lot?
My google says 11.3 million. That's 2.9 million more than the entire population of NYC.
To answer your opinion, that's a matter of opinion.
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last few years there has been a net outflow of Mexicans....
It is the Asians who are coming in on tourist visas and staying illegally...
anyways, never mind the facts
those damn Latinos.....
my view on the issue: legalize them all. we need more people.. it would be interesting to see a comparison chart for population/land area.... compared to India and China we are virtually unpopulated..
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http://www.buzzfeed.com/jamieross/the-ballooning-of-donald-trump#.kdZWBB8qQ
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anyways, never mind the facts
those damn Latinos.....
ding, ding, ding!
you got that right...it's a racist code word
Funny as illegals have gone down close to 10% since the Socialist in chief took power
1There were 11.3 million unauthorized immigrants in the U.S. in 2014 (http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/19/5-facts-about-illegal-immigration-in-the-u-s/). The population has remained essentially stable for five years, and currently makes up 3.5% of the nation?s population. The number of unauthorized immigrants peaked in 2007 at 12.2 million, when this group was 4% of the U.S. population.
But if your are irish...no problem man (http://www.latimes.com/la-op-rodriguez8apr08-column.html)
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(https://i.imgur.com/mSJ7pwB.png)
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(http://i.imgur.com/NJUmiPo.jpg)
The delusion is strong with this one.
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You know, we could have a nice discussion about a pertinent subject -- the upcoming elections -- but it won't happen if you continue to diarrhea it up with your shit. Just start a goddamn "I hate overweight people" thread and keep it there. Thanks!
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You know, we could have a nice discussion about a pertinent subject -- the upcoming elections -- but it won't happen if you continue to diarrhea it up with your shit. Just start a goddamn "I hate overweight people" thread and keep it there. Thanks!
I like to think of the fat-related material as a nice palette cleanser to the idiocy of the rest of this thread.
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You know, we could have a nice discussion about a pertinent subject -- the upcoming elections -- but it won't happen if you continue to diarrhea it up with your shit. Just start a goddamn "I hate overweight people" thread and keep it there. Thanks!
I like to think of the fat-related material as a nice palette cleanser to the idiocy of the rest of this thread.
It seems like a vote for Hillary would be a better choice of a palate cleanser to the idiocy of this thread.
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(https://i.imgur.com/wSo7FUF.jpg)
I 100% believe this happened.
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I don't believe anything I read online. I don't believe you, even exist.
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I don't believe anything I read online. I don't believe you, even exist.
if the GWAR videographer hadn't told of his near demise, I too questioned his reality
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I wish I'd played the Isis name dropping drinking game...I'd be soo wasted now
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I wish I'd played the Isis name dropping drinking game...I'd be soo wasted now
a sad spectacle (the debate not you wasted)
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My thoughts before the pundits try to tell people what to think:
Cruz did great.. Rubio was much worse than I expected and I think may be toast
I think Trump did well all in all.. ran out of gas a bit
Bush did allright but not well enough... Fiorina, Kasich and Paul are non factors
I don't see Carson reversing his slide...
Christie did well but I don't think he has a chance
am I forgetting anyone? so many
if forced to rank them based on what they needed to do (ie., not who is the best debater but who helped/hurt themselves):
1. cruz
2. Christie
3. trump
4. bush
5. Fiorina
6. paul
7. carson
8. Kasich
9. rubio
I really have trouble between 4 and 5.. just not sure if Fiorina helped herself more than Bush or not.. but I've elected to put Bush at 4...
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I didn't watch but I lol'd when i read this:
?Imagine what it?s going to be like dealing with Putin,? Bush said. ?This is a tough business to run for president.?
Trump, as before, responded with a reference to Bush?s eroding poll numbers. ?Let?s see: I?m at 42, and you?re at three, so I?m doing better,? Trump said.
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And this one:
Trump stood by his comments that we should shut down parts of the Internet.
?I sure as hell don?t want to let people that want to kill us and kill our nation use our Internet, yessir I am," Trump said in response to a question from CNN's Wolf Blitzer.
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And this one:
Trump stood by his comments that we should shut down parts of the Internet.
?I sure as hell don?t want to let people that want to kill us and kill our nation use our Internet, yessir I am," Trump said in response to a question from CNN's Wolf Blitzer.
so typical of you.. you don't watch the debate but want to voice your opinion? come on now man... this is like when you review shows you don't attend!
:)
Trump's answer on the internet was actually a very strong moment for him.. he explained his position further in a further answer...
the 42 to 3 thing.. man he left Bush on the ropes on that one...
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The Trumpers are so locked in on Donald now that he could take the stage at the next debate, walk over to Jeb!, take out his dong, and piss on Jeb!'s shoes while Jeb! is in the process of curing cancer and achieving peace in the Middle East -- and Trumps numbers would rise and Jeb!'s would sink.
There was a point early in the coverage where they showed the various campaigns' debate-watching parties and all the supporters would go crazy when the red light went on.
Then they showed Jeb!'s party:
(https://i.gyazo.com/0857d42ff5514e47e5739bd0d5efbb97.png)
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(http://i.imgur.com/6E7TUFE.png)
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than
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than
Also, "there"
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(http://i.imgur.com/NJUmiPo.jpg)
The delusion is strong with this one.
This picture made me laugh. However, I thought your comment was pretty weak. Especially for a would be stand-up comic. So I decided to tailor my own:
"This one aint too swift."
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And this one:
Trump stood by his comments that we should shut down parts of the Internet.
?I sure as hell don?t want to let people that want to kill us and kill our nation use our Internet, yessir I am," Trump said in response to a question from CNN's Wolf Blitzer.
so typical of you.. you don't watch the debate but want to voice your opinion? come on now man... this is like when you review shows you don't attend!
:)
Trump's answer on the internet was actually a very strong moment for him.. he explained his position further in a further answer...
the 42 to 3 thing.. man he left Bush on the ropes on that one...
So sorry, I was boning my wife last night. While you were...watching the Republican debate.
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Whoa you boned your wife for four hours? Impressive.
Did you give her a disappointing, lackluster boning for the first hour, to represent the 'undercard' debate? And then did you go primetime all over her ass for the final two hours? How many times did you scream JEB!
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Whoa you boned your wife for four hours? Impressive.
Did you give her a disappointing, lackluster boning for the first hour, to represent the 'undercard' debate? And then did you go primetime all over her ass for the final two hours? How many times did you scream JEB!
This is why I nominate YOU as board stand-up comic.
In reality, I don't have cable so there was no debate option.
As a 40something married dad, I'm sure you can relate to the rest of the reality....
In reality, part of the debate time was spent dealing with a fight between our spoiled only middle class child, and her mom. Both were acting like children, only one had the excuse of being a child.
In reality, the sex was very nice, but it wasn't four hours. Who has sex for four hours, other than STING? I would say maybe teenagers have that kind of physical stamina, but certainly teenage boys don't have the staying power.
Have I lapsed into blather? I'm sorry, I had two beers at lunch. Give a can get a can at Pizza Paradiso.
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In reality, I don't have cable so there was no debate option.
umm but you do have the internet?
I watched it (and bled from my eyeballs) on Cnn.com
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In reality, I don't have cable so there was no debate option.
umm but you do have the internet?
I watched it (and bled from my eyeballs) on Cnn.com
I did try watching one of the debates on cnn.com, but there seemed to be technical difficulty. I just assumed I'd have the same problem again.
Plus, the family issues and the fucking. Family and fucking come before watching a bunch of people who I'm not going to vote for debate each other.
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Plus, the family issues and the fucking. Family and fucking come before watching a bunch of people who I'm not going to vote for debate each other.
can't argue with that logic
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However, I thought your comment was pretty weak. Especially for a would be stand-up comic. So I decided to tailor my own:
"This one aint too swift."
That is a good line.
That said, I never purported to be a would be stand-up comic. I said I'd done it twice years ago. I also have went kayaking twice in my life; I do not identify as a "kayaker."
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So here is what I want to know...who it the man behind the man. That is trump.
Who has been his tried and true advisers.
I guess when you make shit up you don't need them, but I got to imagine there are a few key players
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So here is what I want to know...who it the man behind the man. That is trump.
(http://www.faithinhisblood.org/uploads/2/8/5/1/28510639/1323409_orig.gif)
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The Real Reason Donald Trump Will Win the Republican Nomination
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ali-a-rizvi/the-real-reason-donald-tr_b_8820192.html
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Why Actor Henry Rollins Thinks Donald Trump 'Is A Lot Like Bernie Sanders'
http://live.huffingtonpost.com/r/highlight/why-actor-henry-rollins-thinks-donald-trump-is-a-lot-like-bernie-sanders/5670922199ec6d2f95000f72
i guess he is known more his acting than his music these days...
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still reeling from that Republican debate... so disgusting... except Paul they are all nuts or acting like nuts...
Cruz talking bout "precision carpet bombing"?? um hello?
Trump talking about going after the families of terrorists? (this got no attention in the press at all that I found)
Carson essentially saying we'd be doing the children we kill a favor "as long as we finish the job"??? or some other sick interpretation.. not sure what the fuck he was trying to say
and of course the mainstream media talking bout how substantive it was and how much talkin about policy there was?? excuse me? what policy? "I will destroy ISIS"?? that is not policy but a wish... that is nothing....
in the wake of the debate it almost seems like the media is trying to will Rubio upwards.. they keep talking about how great he was on foreign policy but on immigration he looked seriously floundering....
Christie with his plan to shoot down Russian planes?? Hello...
Trump in a weird way made more sense than most of them.. we can't fight ISIS, Iran, Assad and Russia at the same time! (cue Putin "endorsement"...)
Man ISIS must have been overjoyed watching it.. "hey look at these guys.. they have a foreing policy debate in their presidential election and all they talk about is us!"
this fearmongering is so pathetic....that CNN anchorwoman Costello (who is actually real good) was talking about how 3000 Americans have died from domestic terrorism since like 2004 or some such year.. and 400,000 from gun deaths... and yet the Republicans were going completely apeshit
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still reeling from that Republican debate... so disgusting...
carson made the hairs on the back of my neck stand up!
zoinks, did the people who supported him really believe he could be President!?!
Cruz sounded as good as I've ever heard him, still scares me, but it appears he's really trying to dial back the crazy
Rand and Kasich actually sounded rational, but we all know that doesn't get votes
but just a shit show from start to end
GOP is toast come nov for the top seat.
My prediction...watch out for Ryan 2020
GSD mofo!
Been a mess in that house for too long
and with these GOP primary clowns sucking up all the air in the room, it was a shocker of a story to hear that compromises were actually made.
can you believe it, they still believe in compromises.
It was a Christmas miracle
Ok going a little hyperbolic here, probably should just step away from the keyboard
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so i was aware of the who "trump wants to shut down parts of the internet" idiocy, but i somehow missed this until now:
Trump's Terrifying Nuke Answer at the Debate Should End His Campaign (But It Won't)
Trump didn't even understand the question, but that didn't stop him from answering
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/trumps-terrifying-nuke-answer-at-the-debate-should-end-his-campaign-but-it-wont-20151216
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Donald Trump Sings & Dances (https://youtu.be/5nwNfmkaV_I)
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the source of Trump's appeal?
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Adios, Linds (http://www.politico.com/story/2015/12/lindsey-graham-suspends-presidential-campaign-217028)
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A conservative group made a pretty funny video mocking Trump and his supporters.
https://youtu.be/rN1HKMyJAro
I saw it at:
http://dangerousminds.net/comments/trump_fans_viciously_lampooned_by_new_video1
When I watched this the first time, I wasn?t aware of the fact that it was actually produced by a group of conservatives, the Public Integrity Alliance of Arizona, a nonprofit largely made up of East Valley Republicans. Frankly one doesn?t expect to see something legitimately amusing coming from Republican quarters?as everyone knows Republicans aren?t funny. But this is excellent, a pitch-perfect country-rock video starring Phoenix-based comedian Brian Nissen?s redneck ?Dwain? character, a mullet-wearing simpleton who wants to ?make America great again? by voting for a blustering, buffoonish billionaire who believes American wages are too high, that we need a border wall to keep out all of the Muslims and Mexicans and all kinds of other silly stuff tailored to the basest of the GOP base? Perhaps you know who he?s talking about?
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I'm starting to get a bit anxious about a trump win in the primaries.... he just has this uncanny ability to make great points...notice the attack on Bill and Hillary due to Bill's being a dog...by my count that is his fourth time making a point that really resonates with the American people- rightly or wrongly is not the issue- even though maybe nobody else wants to say it:
1. build a wall/Mexican immigrants rapists/they send their worst
2. Bush did not keep us safe
3. keep muslims out
4. Hillary and Bill last people who should talk about women's rights given his record with women and her role supporting him etc.
compare that to the other Republican candidates... it is interesting to compare a Trump candidacy to that of Andrew Jackson
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making a point that really resonates with the American people- rightly or wrongly is not the issue- even though maybe nobody else wants to say it:
1. build a wall/Mexican immigrants rapists/they send their worst
2. Bush did not keep us safe
3. keep muslims out
4. Hillary and Bill last people who should talk about women's rights given his record with women and her role supporting him etc.
compare that to the other Republican candidates... it is interesting to compare a Trump candidacy to that of Andrew Jackson
How can you say 'rightly or wrongly is not the issue'
I mean In U.S., 42% Believe Creationist View of Human Origins (http://www.gallup.com/poll/170822/believe-creationist-view-human-origins.aspx)
Just because ignorance resonates with Americans, should we laud that
I think the GOP is doomed in a national election...primaries really mean nothing
only problem is they hate liberals SOOO much that they would vote for Dezz Nuts before voting for Hillary
Also laughable to see him criticize anyone on women's issues
He is absolutely horrible and to boot he was very pro-liberal on many women's issues in the past
some how he is getting a pass on that though?
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4. Hillary and Bill last people who should talk about women's rights given his record with women and her role supporting him etc.
This is probably the most fucking stupid thing you've ever said and that's a pretty high bar.
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4. Hillary and Bill last people who should talk about women's rights given his record with women and her role supporting him etc.
This is probably the most fucking stupid thing you've ever said and that's a pretty high bar.
I don't think it is the most stupid thing I have ever said.. I realize you are a Hillary supporter- as am I- but take your blinders off for a second... what Bill did with Monica was pretty much a crime given she worked for him... Hillary standing by him through multiple bimbo eruptions is a fact...
Trump may have divorced and said horrible things about women but that is different than having a sexual relationship with an intern
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Hillary standing by him through multiple bimbo eruptions is a fact...
I disagree that standing by him was a mistake, but what do I know
while yes, it was a crime, somewhat minor considering she was a consenting adult
IMO
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4. Hillary and Bill last people who should talk about women's rights given his record with women and her role supporting him etc.
This is probably the most fucking stupid thing you've ever said and that's a pretty high bar.
I don't think it is the most stupid thing I have ever said.. I realize you are a Hillary supporter- as am I- but take your blinders off for a second... what Bill did with Monica was pretty much a crime given she worked for him... Hillary standing by him through multiple bimbo eruptions is a fact...
Trump may have divorced and said horrible things about women but that is different than having a sexual relationship with an intern
It has nothing to do with being a Hillary supporter. The idea that "Hillary [is one of the] last people who should talk about women's rights given [her husbands affair]" is insulting to women everywhere. Should the Jews be the last people to talk about ethnic cleansing? After all, if they really were so anti-ethnic cleansing, they wouldn't have let themselves get all Holocausted.
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4. Hillary and Bill last people who should talk about women's rights given his record with women and her role supporting him etc.
This is probably the most fucking stupid thing you've ever said and that's a pretty high bar.
I don't think it is the most stupid thing I have ever said.. I realize you are a Hillary supporter- as am I- but take your blinders off for a second... what Bill did with Monica was pretty much a crime given she worked for him... Hillary standing by him through multiple bimbo eruptions is a fact...
Trump may have divorced and said horrible things about women but that is different than having a sexual relationship with an intern
It has nothing to do with being a Hillary supporter. The idea that "Hillary [is one of the] last people who should talk about women's rights given [her husbands affair]" is insulting to women everywhere. Should the Jews be the last people to talk about ethnic cleansing? After all, if they really were so anti-ethnic cleansing, they wouldn't have let themselves get all Holocausted.
I agree with you on that point but it is irrelevant.. with a large swathe of the electorate- and particularly the Republican one- what Trump is doing with his Clinton comments is brilliant... I was watching on CNN.. they had a guy who used work for Bill and a guy who supports Trump... the Trump guy ate him for lunch.. all the Bill guy could say is "its so low" and "disgusting".... he simply looked stunned and depressed.... You think Republican voters care? They are loving it!
And a guy who is able to repeatedly say to people what they want to hear may be a demagogue...but he is dangerous
Since you saw fit to insult me (why the insults man?? ) I urge you to take a reading course.. I said "rightly or wrongly" .. I never said whether I agreed with it or not... There is almost this reflexive reaction by some of you that anything Trump says must be horrible and we can't even credit him with being politically saavy..come on now.
And just for the record.. I do think Bill Clinton was a total sleaze... I did not vote for him in 1992 and I have never wavered in that belief (although in 1996 I did vote for him... the 1994 Gingrich "revolution" was just too much to take).. history only proved me right.
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There is almost this reflexive reaction by some of you that anything Trump says must be horrible and we can't even credit him with being politically saavy..come on now.
I consider something politically savvy when it, you know, wins elections. Being ahead in the polls this far out is completely irrelevant. Check out who was leading in past elections at this time. (https://twitter.com/pastfrontrunner) I put Donald Trump's level of political savvy about on par with President Mike Huckabee's, President Rudy Guliani, and President Howard Dean's.
Trump will not get the nomination. And if by some miracle he did, the democrat would win in the biggest landslide election in history. Saying bullshit insanity that renders 75% of America completely unwilling to consider your candidacy is the antithesis of political savvy; its the trademark of someone who is simply interested in publicity for their next venture.
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making a point that really resonates with the American people- rightly or wrongly is not the issue- even though maybe nobody else wants to say it:
1. build a wall/Mexican immigrants rapists/they send their worst
2. Bush did not keep us safe
3. keep muslims out
4. Hillary and Bill last people who should talk about women's rights given his record with women and her role supporting him etc.
compare that to the other Republican candidates... it is interesting to compare a Trump candidacy to that of Andrew Jackson
How can you say 'rightly or wrongly is not the issue'
I mean In U.S., 42% Believe Creationist View of Human Origins (http://www.gallup.com/poll/170822/believe-creationist-view-human-origins.aspx)
Just because ignorance resonates with Americans, should we laud that
I think the GOP is doomed in a national election...primaries really mean nothing
only problem is they hate liberals SOOO much that they would vote for Dezz Nuts before voting for Hillary
Also laughable to see him criticize anyone on women's issues
He is absolutely horrible and to boot he was very pro-liberal on many women's issues in the past
some how he is getting a pass on that though?
you're so naïve... getting elected is convincing people to vote for you.. not sure why you have difficulty with this concept....
primaries mean nothing? ha hah a.... it means nothing who the nominees are?
the election is almost a year away... a lot can happen in a year.... we could, god forbid, have a massive terrorist attack.. how do you like Hillary's chances then?? the economy could slow down.. a lot of things could happen
and the election will not be decided by head to head matchup polls today- but as usual- by voters in Ohio, Florida, Virginia... or do you see the democratic nominee winning the deep south states??? Do you believe Republicans will suddenly win California and New York??? You think democrats will win Texas??
of course not..
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Julian please also read what I wrote above even though it was directed at Sidehatch it applies equally to you.
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leading in past elections at this time. (https://twitter.com/pastfrontrunner)
Hard to remember that Barry didn't have a strong lead at this point in the game.
This kind off look back does make people catch their breath a liittle and realize there is a lot of time between now and Nov 8th
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I think the GOP is doomed in a national election...primaries really mean nothing
little hyperbole there
primaries mean nothing? ha hah a.... it means nothing who the nominees are?
I should have stated it's really early, he has had a sustained lead, but Bachman, Perry and Cain were all leading the polls too
It is a big feild with a lot of poor choices, so fertile soil for trump. But I still don't think he'll make it past super tuesday
A lot could happen in 1 month
He has had quite the sustained lead
Monday, February 1 Iowa caucus
Tuesday, February 9 New Hampshire
Saturday, February 20-27 Nevada /South Carolina
can anyone tell me why having all the primaries on one day would be a bad thing?
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I think the GOP is doomed in a national election...primaries really mean nothing
little hyperbole there
primaries mean nothing? ha hah a.... it means nothing who the nominees are?
I should have stated it's really early, he has had a sustained lead, but Bachman, Perry and Cain were all leading the polls too
It is a big field with a lot of poor choices, so fertile soil for trump. But I still don't think he'll make it past super tuesday
A lot could happen in 1 month
He has had quite the sustained lead
Monday, February 1 Iowa caucus
Tuesday, February 9 New Hampshire
Saturday, February 20-27 Nevada /South Carolina
can anyone tell me why having all the primaries on one day would be a bad thing?
these examples of cain, bachman and Perry are terrible... cain led for like for 2 weeks WAY earlier in the process... bachman led in IOWA like six months before Iowa voted... I think Perry led BEFORE he entered the race or maybe for a week or two right after Bachman.. then he opened his mouth and said "oops".. it is true that Gingrich had a moment in the sun once the primaries started ....a great example of what you are saying is Howard Dean in 2004 who was creaming the field before Iowa, lost iowa to Kerry (horrible candidate), had his SCREAM and was toast....it all happened so quickly...
Trump could implode but he has led since he joined the race like five months ago.. you can't compare that to the other fly by night leaders from recent memory... of course Trump could easily lose Iowa to Cruz and then fall in NH.. of course somebody else can win the Republican nomination..
obviously anything can happen... I think all I was saying was that Trump has an uncanny ability to cut through all the political BS candidates say and say what the people being polled want to hear...that is a huge asset! to be able to read what the people want to hear even when the entire establishment/media/conventional wisdom says its crazy and that if you say it you are done.... FOUR times now he has made rather unconventional statements that have been very effective... we can definitely call him a demagogue but I think he is demonstrating some signs of being a good politician.... its all too easy to say he is a nut and the Republicans are all bonkers but I think that is a little simplistic..(not saying you said that)... I also think that people discounting Trump entirely are missing the point that in a general he would be better positioned to pivot to the center than many other Republicans because he has quite the record of being fairly moderate/liberal on social issues...
big field with a lot of poor choices? I would argue this is the best Republican field ever.... the fact people don't like Jeb Bush or Rick Perry or Walker or any of these people doesn't take away from their experience etc....again, I would not vote for them but a weak field would be the democratic field!!
wholeheartedly agree we should have a national primary.. also, everyone should be automatically registered to vote AND the day of a presidential election should be on a weekend or people should get a day off...
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and the election will not be decided by head to head matchup polls today- but as usual- by voters in Ohio, Florida, Virginia...
FYI...of your states, only VA gets to vote in the primaries on super tuesday
OH and FL....after Puerto Rico (GOP)
jez American Samaoa and the Virgin Islands(?) cast primary votes before NY, MD, PA, NJ and CA!
I really don't understand how order is justified
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and the election will not be decided by head to head matchup polls today- but as usual- by voters in Ohio, Florida, Virginia...
FYI...of your states, only VA gets to vote in the primaries on super tuesday
OH and FL....after Puerto Rico (GOP)
jez American Samaoa and the Virgin Islands(?) cast primary votes before NY, MD, PA, NJ and CA!
I really don't understand how order is justified
well I meant the general election..
the idea behind the primary process I think is that Iowa (traditional rural midwest?), New Hampshire (maybe northeast?), South Carolina (southern/black?) and Nevada (west/latino?) together provide a representative microcosm of the US and that we should really only need those states to decide things.. decide things early and move on...obviously those states don't want to lose their early position in the process because of the attention and money the candidates lavish on them....also having a few small states early encourages candidates to talk to and interact with "real people" on the ground whereas if you had a national primary candidates might just focus on running more of a national campaign (more media based.. less small meetings, townhalls, etc).. furthermore, resources to run a national primary campaign would need to be much greater.. some of these things have changed though in the "modern" internet/media age...I am just trying to articulate some of the reasoning behind this moronic system...
I don't think the process makes a whit of sense...members of each party should have a one day primary 2-3 months before the general and be done with it....not this utterly ridiculous neverending marathon slog beatch process with endless debates and candidates appearing on the news programs 873 times..... but of course there are big economic interests at play that fight to keep the system the way it is (think of the money the TV stations in the early states get, the national media which needs something to do, the campaign consultants who benefit from a more drawn out primary process, etc)
just another example of "American exceptionalism"... no other country in the world, of course, has such a system..
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it is amazing . . . that when I ask people, if you had to vote today, for either trump or Hillary, the majority answer, is trump. so many people, do not trust Hillary.
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it is amazing . . . that when I ask people, if you had to vote today, for either trump or Hillary, the majority answer, is trump. so many people, do not trust Hillary.
well.. given where you live, I don't find that surprising at all...but it is true, many people, do not trust, Hillary..
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Shut the f**k up Donny? (https://youtu.be/h6oxvm9Q68Q)
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A Vote for Marco Rubio Is a Vote for Men?s High-Heeled Booties
(http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/ted-cruz-marco-rubio-boots-tweet-217388#ixzz3wZZGpr8W)
Might get Walkie's vote?
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Cruz and Rubio are the same age, so Cruz is prob just throwin shade because Marco gets all the chicks.
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Did he really think Paris is in Germany?
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Did he really think Paris is in Germany?
Was for a few years it did...so not totally false
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it is amazing . . . that when I ask people, if you had to vote today, for either trump or Hillary, the majority answer, is trump. so many people, do not trust Hillary.
You live in Richmond, right?
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Trump Campaign Issues 20,000 Rally Tickets for 1,400-Seat Venue (http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/national-international/Vigil-Planned-Outside-Donald-Trumps-Vermont-Stop-364489291.html)
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it is amazing . . . that when I ask people, if you had to vote today, for either trump or Hillary, the majority answer, is trump. so many people, do not trust Hillary.
You live in Richmond, right?
No, he doesn't. Also:
The city of Richmond is heavily African-American and Democratic-leaning,
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The city of Richmond is full of heavy African-Americans
Didn't know space was on the fat hate train
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it is amazing . . . that when I ask people, if you had to vote today, for either trump or Hillary, the majority answer, is trump. so many people, do not trust Hillary.
You live in Richmond, right?
i live here
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lol u homeless?
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single rainbow. yawn.
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bua ha hahahahahaha
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Shut the f**k up Donny? (https://youtu.be/h6oxvm9Q68Q)
BTW...this is hysterical, must watch for fans of the dude
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So glad that Carson's popularity has waned
he is really a whack job
Ben Carson asks fifth-graders to single out the ?worst student? in their class, and they did (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/education/wp/2016/01/07/ben-carson-asks-fifth-graders-to-single-out-the-worst-student-in-their-class-and-they-did/?tid=sm_fb)
Following the rally, Carson met with the student and told him that he hopes the child will become a neurosurgeon
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So glad that Carson's popularity has waned
he is really a whack job
Ben Carson asks fifth-graders to single out the ?worst student? in their class, and they did (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/education/wp/2016/01/07/ben-carson-asks-fifth-graders-to-single-out-the-worst-student-in-their-class-and-they-did/?tid=sm_fb)
Following the rally, Carson met with the student and told him that he hopes the child will become a neurosurgeon
I want a candidate who will make classmates point out the fattest kid. Then go into a 10 minute spiel about the dangers of obesity. Then possibly call CPS.
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So glad that Carson's popularity has waned
he is really a whack job
Ben Carson asks fifth-graders to single out the ?worst student? in their class, and they did (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/education/wp/2016/01/07/ben-carson-asks-fifth-graders-to-single-out-the-worst-student-in-their-class-and-they-did/?tid=sm_fb)
Following the rally, Carson met with the student and told him that he hopes the child will become a neurosurgeon
I want a candidate who will make classmates point out the fattest kid. Then go into a 10 minute spiel about the dangers of obesity. Then possibly call CPS.
well with that logic...Chris Christy could be the one
Following the rally, Christy met with the student and told him that he hopes the child will become a a Governor of NJ
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Barry looks pretty hot there tbh
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i LOVE how (slightly) expanded background checks = coming for their guns.
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I'm coming from my guns.
Well, gun, anyway.
Eww what a mess!
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he's never getting the nomination...but glad he's talking about it on the national level
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That's a pretty weird conflation though. As in, what do narcotics laws have to do with banking regulations? The marijuana scenario describes someone who is breaking a law and is arrested when he is witnessed breaking that law. I don't agree with that law, but it is still a law in most places.
There's much more ambiguity with the Wall Street example. In many cases, it wasn't unlawfulness but greed and cold heartedness. Many of these banks shittily took advantage of the regulatory system and screwed a lot of people over, but it wasn't illegal.
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That's a pretty weird conflation though.
i don't think he's conflating them, sounds more like he's comparing them. as in, we arrest kids for this minor offence while bankers get away with a much more harmful offense.
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I've never been 100% certain what 'conflate' means but I'm always impressed when people use it because then I think they're smart.
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For example, I could say "I find it strange that the kid who smokes marijuana gets arrested but Sweetcell can be a big dumb jerk and get off scot free."
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I've never been 100% certain what 'conflate' means but I'm always impressed when people use it because then I think they're smart.
Conflate means to combine two things into one, and it often has the connotation of making a false equivalency or overly simplifying things by lumping two different things together.
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Duck dynasty, just endorsed cruz. It's over Donald, it's over.
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I bet all the GOP nom's were hoping for that endorsment
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I am curious, as to who Bowie would give his endorsement to? I think we should have a debate stage with 10 different psychics, each one channeling dead David Bowie, and seeing who comes out on top! $5,000 a ticket, dude.
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Watch this to get high without any drugs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPRfP_TEQ-g)
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I mean, it's like a great Simpsons bit brought to real life.
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Watch this to get high without any drugs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPRfP_TEQ-g)
is that real? there something that looks GCI/green-screen about it... like those girls were superimposed on a scene of a trump gathering.
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You know, I can watch videos of people getting killed, videos of people having the most disgusting hardcore sex you've ever seen, but for some reason, I just couldn't watch that video. That was the creepiest most disturbing thing I have ever witnessed in my life.
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Damn... The crowd only starts cheering once they sing "or get crushed every time". Also that crowd is even less diverse than the Oscar nominations...
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Watch this to get high without any drugs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPRfP_TEQ-g)
is that real? there something that looks GCI/green-screen about it... like those girls were superimposed on a scene of a trump gathering.
SNL is live this week. Imagine how hard they're scrambling right now to do something on this. Probably Cecily, Aidy and Kate working on the steps as I type this.
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There are just so many incredible things about this.
-- the fact that the short one looks exactly like Ted Cruz
-- when the two taller girls lift the short one approximately 1 centimeter off the ground
-- "DEAL FROM STRENGTH OR GET CRUSHED EVERY TIME!!!"
-- the fact that they're clearly lip-syncing a song that has at least 5 voices in the chorus
-- the fact that one of these girls is probably a future Mrs. Trump, probably the one on the left
-- Gray haired guy sitting in middle of screen who can't quite nail the clap beat
-- When they get trapped behind the lectern
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-- the fact that the short one looks exactly like Ted Cruz
Can't unsee that now.
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Because...Florida.
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interesting Bill Maher comment in an interview with politico (http://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2015/07/judge-unseals-more-details-in-jeffrey-epstein-underage-sex-lawsuit-210065)
And I know Nate Silver and lots of other people say it?s impossible for Donald Trump to get elected president, but as I?ve always said: Something is impossible until it isn?t. And so far, Donald Trump has defied everybody?s predictions, and he?s still there, and he only seems to get stronger. The guy eats third rails for breakfast. I mean, what would he have to say? He?s already said, ?Carly Fiorina, you?re too ugly to be president! John McCain, you?re not a war hero! Hey, would you like to see my impression of a guy with cerebral palsy?? I mean, what would he have to do, fart in Jesus? face or call Ronald Reagan a fag? I have no idea what this guy would have to do to make his crowd turn on him. He?s like a movie monster who only gets stronger with the stuff that you?re using to try to kill him. So with this atmosphere, I think anything is possible?and that means Bernie Sanders is possible.
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you know, i have to say it . . . trump was good, and likable on morning joe today.
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what's next locust or boils
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I find the fact some people take Sanders seriously mind boggling..but in general I'm keeping quiet and watching things...
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I find the fact some people take Sanders seriously mind boggling..but in general I'm keeping quiet and watching things...
That's what they said about Obama, and he was black, on top of being a socialist (and he probably liked Coldplay too. No way does a grumpy old man like Sanders listen to Coldplay.)
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Obama.... on top of being a socialist (and he probably liked Coldplay too. No way does a grumpy old man like Sanders listen to Coldplay.)
Space...Nailed it!
I imagine Berrnie like Simon and Garfunkel and Leo Kottke
as well as the Wu Tang Clan
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Obama.... on top of being a socialist (and he probably liked Coldplay too. No way does a grumpy old man like Sanders listen to Coldplay.)
Space...Nailed it!
I imagine Berrnie like Simon and Garfunkel and Leo Kottke
as well as the Wu Tang Clan
I was wondering what kind of music Bernie has on his gizmo.
Well he tells us, right hea.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JL3gn9FCJNE
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three things:
1. Will be 75 when he is sworn in.. lets think about that.. a President who would be 79 towards the end of his FIRST term...
2. socialist wants to break up banks, nationalize health care, raise taxes
3. jewish
maybe the country has changed dramatically in the last few years..... my guess is most of the US has no idea who Bernie sanders is other than the "not Hillary democrat"... I could see Trump beating Sanders 60-40.
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three things:
1. Will be 75 when he is sworn in.. lets think about that.. a President who would be 79 towards the end of his FIRST term...
2. socialist wants to break up banks, nationalize health care, raise taxes
3. jewish
maybe the country has changed dramatically in the last few years..... my guess is most of the US has no idea who Bernie sanders is other than the "not Hillary democrat"... I could see Trump beating Sanders 60-40.
Perhaps you didn't click on my link. He has Willie on his gizmo. Does America need to know anything beyond that? I bet Trump likes Coldplay.
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I could see Trump beating Sanders 60-40.
Can we just start quoting Hutch's insanity for posterity's sake. What an absolute idiot who knows nothing about politics.
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No presidential election is going to swing 60-40, but I hate to say it: I think Trump beats Sanders in a general. From my perspective, there's way more loony far-right idiots than there are loony far-left idiots, and they're much more motivated to not only vote, but to organize, to rally, to work phone banks, to arrange transportation.
I think the country is more leftward than the GOP candidates claim, but I also think most people want to be entertained and the Presidential race has become another sport. If its Donald v Bernie, Donald unleashes zinger after zinger, Bernie struggles to keep up, and the right cheers for their Alpha Male candidate.
Don't forget that Trump has unlimited money. This is very significant. He will never have to cut resources in one state in order to shore up another state. He will never have to tie together coalitions of competing interests. He'll never have to waste time holding fundraising parties. Bernie will still have to do all of that.
If Hillary is the candidate, I think she can take ahold of the narrative and defeat Trump. But I feel like if he's under fire, Bernie's persona will evolve into
(https://media.giphy.com/media/VHOx82sSfSOIg/giphy.gif)
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Donald Trump will not get the GOP nomination. Anyone who thinks otherwise has an IQ in the 60s. His net favorability ratings among Republicans is 25-30 percentage points lower than Cruz or Rubio. His net favorability ratings among independents is -27%. He is unelectable. The second fringe candidates for the GOP nomination start to drop, the 65% of the Republican party who do not like him will coalesce around an establishment candidate. Again, look at who was leading in the polls in prior election cycles at this time.
How would Sanders do against Mike Huckabee, because he's your 2012 analogue to Trump.
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Ok smart guy, who wins the GOP nomination?
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Ok smart guy, who wins the GOP nomination?
It'll be one of Cruz, Rubio, or Bush. Whoever is in the best shape of those 3 after SC, the establishment will coalesce around them, the same way they have in the last two GOP nominations. I would find Bush, by far, the least likely of the three at current. I would find Rubio the most likely as of 1/20.
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nope. trump, trump, trump . . . all the way. whether you like it or not. I have not seen this much momentum for any candidate, whether either party, for awhile. he's crazy and real and straight forward and an entertainer and a business man and a carnival barker. he is, this country.
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Donald Trump net favorability ratings among independents is -27%.
that is something that I keep saying, but doesn't seem to get traction
there is no way he can win a national
Independents are key and they are running away from trump like a smelly fart
Trump has changed things and a 6 month significant lead is really impressive
but getting the bozos who vote in Rebpub primaries are different than the people who come out on Election Day
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nope. trump, trump, trump . . . all the way. whether you like it or not. I have not seen this much momentum for any candidate, whether either party, for awhile.
He's Howard Dean.
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We should also consider that the GOP nom process is pretty odd in that the deep south states and Iowa and many others (which coincidentally are the ones that the Trumps and Cruzes of the world play best in) are all proportional delegate states and more establishment-friendly states later in the primary cycle are winner-take-all.
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nope. trump, trump, trump . . . all the way. whether you like it or not. I have not seen this much momentum for any candidate, whether either party, for awhile.
He's Howard Dean.
just looking it up
interesting that the Iowa caucaus's were held Jan 19th in 2004
08 and 12 they were Jan 3rd
Why the Fcuk to they change this stuff around
I'm fine with states that do caucuses going first, but why can't all the other states just go on super Tuesday
the states that go in May and June...what's the point. Kinda just wasting taxpayer money at that point
TIL - Both parties then enacted stricter timing rules for 2016: primaries and caucuses cannot start until February 1; and only Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina and Nevada are entitled to February contests
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proportional delegate states and more establishment-friendly states later in the primary cycle are winner-take-all.
This too drives me crazy about elections...I don't think winner-take-all is a good way to do elections
it basically invalidates millions of votes in big states that could have turned the election
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Classic Kuntzman
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Classic Kuntzman
I mean, I'm sure most of us thought the same thing.
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Donald Trump will not get the GOP nomination. Anyone who thinks otherwise has an IQ in the 60s.
I do not believe a person with an IQ of 60 would care who gets the nomination, nor would they have any thoughts towards the matter...
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Donald Trump will not get the GOP nomination. Anyone who thinks otherwise has an IQ in the 60s.
I do not believe a person with an IQ of 60 would care who gets the nomination, nor would they have any thoughts towards the matter...
Oh, I disagree. I definitely think Ted Cruz cares who gets the nomination.
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Donald Trump will not get the GOP nomination. Anyone who thinks otherwise has an IQ in the 60s.
I do not believe a person with an IQ of 60 would care who gets the nomination, nor would they have any thoughts towards the matter...
Oh, I disagree. I definitely think Ted Cruz cares who gets the nomination.
I really don't like cruz for a long list of reasons...but he's a pretty sharp cookie (unlike HWBush)
graduated Princeton cum laude.
(wait for walkie to comment on this one)
on the debate team at Harvard Law, and got as far as the world championship semifinals before losing to Australia.
(GGGRR those aussies are such good debaters)
He graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Law, and was a primary editor of the Harvard Law Review
(seems like a good job if you want to be president or Supreme court Justice!)
Harvard Professor Alan Dershowitz described him as "off the charts brilliant".
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(http://media.salon.com/2013/10/ted_cruz7.jpg)
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Cruz is a lot of things, but he seems far from feeble-minded.
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Don't dissect the jokes, people.
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My response was supposed to be meta.
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My response was supposed to be meta.
You gotta tag it "META:" then, man. How else are we supposed to know?
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Because one should know.
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(GGGRR those aussies are such good debaters)
one might even say they are master debaters.
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Ha Ha That means they touch themselves pleasurably!!!
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You might even say they enjoy being down under
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Because that's where their genitals are located!!!
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relaxer has, once and for all, decisively disproven the old adage that if you if have to explain a joke, it wasn't funny. well done sir!
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?For the record, Tom Brady was framed,? he says, to inevitable cheers about the Patriots quarterback. ?I?m not willing to pander on much? ? laughter ? ?but on that, Tom Brady was framed, and I have it on good authority that Hillary Clinton was responsible.? More cheers. ?Why else do you think she destroyed her emails?? This is not actually funny, but for New Hampshire Republicans, it amounts to a double-stuffed serving of red meat.
t.cruz
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I could see Trump beating Sanders 60-40.
Can we just start quoting Hutch's insanity for posterity's sake. What an absolute idiot who knows nothing about politics.
What are you trying to say?
;)
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I could see Trump beating Sanders 60-40.
Can we just start quoting Hutch's insanity for posterity's sake. What an absolute idiot who knows nothing about politics.
What are you trying to say?
;)
Trump and Sanders debate (https://www.arlnow.com/2016/01/20/fake-donald-trump-to-debate-fake-bernie-sanders-at-arlington-drafthouse/) in Arlington!
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Donald Trump is poised for the strongest primary performance in modern history (http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/donald-trump-is-poised-for-the-strongest-primary-performance-in-modern-history/ar-BBoweeT?ocid=spartanntp)
The usual response to these sorts of claims is that polling this far out doesn't really mean much. Contests can get especially volatile as we approach an election date, nobody is paying attention yet, and Trump is riding primarily on name-recognition. But the distinctive feature of the 2016 Republican primary polling has not been its volatility but its stability ? at least at the top, where Trump sits
What is scary is this thread was surely started in jest...but more and more it looks like he'll be the nom
I did see a funny bumper sticker today (probably been around for a decade but new to me)
(https://www.nrcc.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Hill-no-photo2.jpg)
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Obama.... on top of being a socialist (and he probably liked Coldplay too. No way does a grumpy old man like Sanders listen to Coldplay.)
Space...Nailed it!
I imagine Berrnie like Simon and Garfunkel and Leo Kottke
as well as the Wu Tang Clan
Did I fuckin call it or what !
New Sanders Ad Uses Simon & Garfunkel Classic 'America' (http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/new-sanders-ad-uses-simon-garfunkel-classic-america-n501061?cid=sm_fb)
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It turns out Donald Trump's father was the racist landlord Woody Guthrie hated (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/01/21/1472974/-It-turns-out-Donald-Trump-s-father-was-the-racist-landlord-Woody-Guthrie-hated?detail=facebook)
(yes, cross posted)
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(http://www.nationalmemo.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/2016-01-21-national-review-against-trump-cover-640-668x501.jpg)
Against Trump," declared the cover of the National Review, a leading voice of the American right founded by the late commentator William F Buckley.
"Trump is a philosophically unmoored political opportunist who would trash the broad conservative ideological consensus within the GOP in favor of a free-floating populism with strong-man overtones," it said in a lead editorial.
The publication followed up with essays by 22 conservative figures who took turns denouncing Trump, the frontrunner in the race for the Republican presidential nomination.
Calling him "astoundingly ignorant," a "charlatan," a "glib egomaniac" and plain "crazy," the conservatives expressed revulsion at the prospect of a President Trump -- and what he might do to the nation and to the Republican brand.
With just over a week to go before the first presidential nominating vote in Iowa, their views also reflected the panic that Trump has set off within a Republican establishment deeply at odds with the celebrity billionaire's angry, populist message
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I love Trump's response to the National Review..
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I love Trump's response to the National Review..
this...
National Review is a failing publication that has lost it's way. It's circulation is way down w its influence being at an all time low. Sad!
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Does his responses ever sound any different? I think he has an app that responds to everything.
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Cruz doesn't have health insurance for himself or his family....oy
http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-mh-ted-cruz-blames-naturally-obamacare-20160121-column.html
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Cruz doesn't have health insurance for himself or his family....oy
http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-mh-ted-cruz-blames-naturally-obamacare-20160121-column.html
The whole his wife worked for Goldman Sacks is just further proof of why he is such a hypocrite.. trying to pawn himself of as some sort of common man railing against the government...
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Trump likes Bon Jovi. For real.
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Santorum acknowledges end might be near (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/01/24/santorum-acknowledges-end-might-near/79264786/)
Really, what makes you think that Rick?
that you can't even get a single percentage point in any poll might be a clue
looking like Cruz and Trump are going to go head to head
Rubio still eking out double digits in the polls, but I doubt he'll due well in the guns and butter crowd
poor jeb, all that money and no real support. Wonder how the fat-cats who funded that $100 million super pac are feeling about their investment now.
It is good to know you can't totally buy an election
Endorsements don't really mean much per se, but this chart (http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-endorsement-primary/)is so lopsided against polling
Republican establishment has just about zero pull with the voters (or pollsters) is seems
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did see this mentioned here:
Trump: I could 'shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters'
http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/23/politics/donald-trump-shoot-somebody-support/
now it's getting scary.
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Well, he'd probably lose a few if he shot a white guy. But a brown skinned gentleman in a turban? He probably hits 45%
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What the Huck? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG_pEGVpQfc)
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What the Huck? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG_pEGVpQfc)
The one thing that always comes to mind when I see this guy? I can't believe that he once ran a marathon.
Why Julian doesn't fat shame this guy (or Christie) is beyond me. I can only think that he simply enjoys picking on fat women more than fat men.
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trump will be on the "all spin zone" smacking down fox..
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i need to start following Relaxer on twitter... thanks.
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Why Julian doesn't fat shame this guy (or Christie) is beyond me. I can only think that he simply enjoys picking on fat women more than fat men.
I assure you, I'd fat shame the hell out of Christie.
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Quite frankly I'm surprised and disappointed in myself that I didn't set up a weedguy420boner twitter account. I mean, that's me to a 'T'
Also chagrined to see that someone claimed the LonerWithABoner tag
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does his boner, smoke weed too? that, i'd like to see.
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does his boner, smoke weed too? that, i'd like to see.
Somewhere out there there is some dude blowing weed up their urethra and taking alcohol enemas at the same time. And one day you'll find him, Walkie.
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i need to start following Relaxer on twitter... thanks.
POTW
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does his boner, smoke weed too? that, i'd like to see.
Somewhere out there there is some dude blowing weed up their urethra and taking alcohol enemas at the same time. And one day you'll find him, Walkie.
I, think his name is Richard, from the Howard Stern show.
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trumps boycotts final debate because of some pin up girl from a news entertainment show.
hurts him, or nobody gives a shit? I say it hurts him and nobody gives a shit. at this point, America would vote for some meme they saw on facebook.
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at this point, America would vote for some meme they saw on facebook.
Sheev 2016
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(http://cdn.meme.am/instances/32996562.jpg)
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(http://i.imgur.com/yaorHTf.jpg)
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Mysterious dude in Iowa is following Ted Cruz around and accusing him of liking Nickelback
http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/politics/article/A-mysterious-dude-in-Iowa-keeps-accusing-Ted-Cruz-6785507.php#photo-8955740 (http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/politics/article/A-mysterious-dude-in-Iowa-keeps-accusing-Ted-Cruz-6785507.php#photo-8955740)
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Mysterious dude in Iowa is following Ted Cruz around and accusing him of liking Nickelback
http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/politics/article/A-mysterious-dude-in-Iowa-keeps-accusing-Ted-Cruz-6785507.php#photo-8955740 (http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/politics/article/A-mysterious-dude-in-Iowa-keeps-accusing-Ted-Cruz-6785507.php#photo-8955740)
This post probably would have worked better with a pic, like Vansmack did on page 36. ;D
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(https://i.imgflip.com/y8zzx.jpg)
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http://www.ifyouonlynews.com/politics/this-video-of-ted-cruzs-daughter-reacting-to-him-shows-how-repulsive-he-is-video/
Damn, even Ted's kids do not want anything to do with him...
Though she of course, she could have just been embarrassed that he was showing PDA while cameras were rolling.
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(https://i.imgflip.com/y8zzx.jpg)
Laughed so hard I woke the kids up!
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So bordies...throw your bet in on the spread
Nate Silver said A 3-way tie is entirely plausible
or trump could crush.
I have
Cruz 33.1/3 %
Trump 30%
Rubio 12%
Carson 7%
Paul 5%
Bush, Christie, Fiorna 1%
Kasich .001%
Huck and Santorm...why did they even waste ink to put them on the ballot (funny both these guys won or nearly won Iowa in previous tries)
Yes it doesn't add up to 100%
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^I saw that.. its not just stupid but also factually incorrect
three and a half years between the release of OK Computer and Kid A.
I'm not sure what people find funny about it.
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everyone was talking about that trump rally with the little girls dancing
but did you see this one (https://www.facebook.com/59361857128/videos/10153330287767129/)
really jumping the shark
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^I saw that.. its not just stupid but also factually incorrect
three and a half years between the release of OK Computer and Kid A.
I'm not sure what people find funny about it.
Says the guy who posts:
(https://i.imgflip.com/yehy2.jpg)
They are called the FIRST Order, not the New Order... So your factually incorrect post was not funny.
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^nerds really love to split hairs
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Not really.
But it was worth pointing out that he called someone out on a meme being factually incorrect, and then the next day, posted a factually incorrect meme.
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My conventional wisdom mindset says it'll be Trump, Cruz, Rubio, but instead I'm going to close my eyes and type what's in my heart:
as@+ks;./h ehraweuh 87as#s;d
whoops, ok eyes are back open.
Cruz 30
Trump 25
Rubio 25
Christie 5-10
Bush 5
Carson 5
everyone else zzzz
Cruz cruzes to the win, and Trump and Rubio tie for second, which is a huge victory for the Rube and a major loss by Trump, who correctly identifies Iowans as infected idiot-losers and promises to never again set foot in the state. He then announces he's running for Governor of Iowa, somehow instantly wins, and then flies back to Manhattan forever and never speaks in public again. Rubio meanwhile smiles so widely and fiercely he loses 5 pounds and 7 years. Later that evening, he will be denied entry into his own victory party.
Christie gets just enough support to crow that he's trending upward, Ben says he's disappointed but has a base to build on as he slashes his campaign staff by 80 percent, Jeb!s face gets permanently pink but he presses onto NH, Carly begins Phase 2 of Operation VP, Kasich bursts into angry flames, and nobody watches or notices what Paul, Santorum and Gilmore do.
For the Democrats, Hillary edges out a squeaker on the toilet and at the caucuses, beating Bernie 52-48, while MOM sits on an ear of corn and calls it positive momentum. No one cares except the corn.
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but instead I'm going to close my eyes and type what's in my heart:
as@+ks;./h ehraweuh 87as#s;d
whoops, ok eyes are back open.
POTW material!
Later that evening, he will be denied entry into his own victory party.
that was pretty good too
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I'm seeing secret cuss words in that, for some reason.
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Gilmore
I honestly had to check to confirm he hadn't dropped out.
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but instead I'm going to close my eyes and type what's in my heart:
as@+ks;./h ehraweuh 87as#s;d
whoops, ok eyes are back open.
POTW material!
Also Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing Stealth-Advertisement of the Week material.
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I just really want Rubio and Cruz to lose..they make me ill..my two Latino brothers blow big bananas (I should write the updated version for the Berenstain Bears B book)
I have no idea how it will go... .Nate Silver is usually on the money but is it even Nate Silver predicting anymore.. he has a big staff now.. also the caucus thing is harder to call..
I can say one thing for sure.. we'll all be winners not having to hear the word IOWA mentioned for another four years..
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I just can't believe the four top choices are Hillary, Bernie, Trump, and Cruz. Good lord, what crappy options.
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didn't you guys see this. it's over, johnny.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-final-des-moines-register-iowa-poll-is-out-how-accurate-will-it-be/
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you keep hearing how Iowa voters are really engaged and the primary is a big deal
120,000 expected for the republican
225,000 for the dems
there are 3 million people there....that's a pathetic turn out!
Drives me nuts
at least in NH...there is 1.2 million people and almost the same amount turn out for the primary
This primary and electoral process just gets me pissed off
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Well to be fair or something, Iowa isn't like other states. I'm admittedly ignorant on what it means to caucus (unless it means to witness someone waving his or her dong at you and the group you're with) but I know you have to be standing somewhere at 7:00 pm sharp and then you move around the room according to who you support. It sounds stupid and boring but it's probably the most exercise Iowans get nowadays so I say let freedom roll.
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I get more upset that people still think Iowa and NH matter.
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They used to get better turnout back when it was the Ames Straw Poll but yeah. Also caucusing is basically a winner takes all per district/location thing which is insane.
But yes, Vansmack is right: the idea that these two states are representative is inane. How's Iowa and NH done recently in getting winners?
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Huckabee and Santorum won the past two Iowan cockuses so there's your horny harbinger right there.
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isn't new Hampshire and iowa, like 100 percent white people? how does that, mean anything?
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But the past two GOP NH winners were Mitt and McCain, so they're a little more in line with the Real World
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my two Latino brothers blow big bananas
i strongly suggest that folks have "safe search" turned on when googling the above phrase.
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Relaxer thanks for posting your predictions (and comedy)...I'd like to see some more
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you have to think based on everything one is seeing that the momentum tonight is with sanders and rubio....rubio a bit too late but we shall see...even if he gets close to second place one could see a scenario where the backers of say kasich and bush decide to rally around him in NH..... hillary is trying to hang on to her voters/enthusiasm but its a slog.. ... trump is having an easier time in a far more fragmented field... cruz seems to be flailing but if he gets the huckabee/santorum effect (wacko evangelicals caucusing for him out of the woodwork) who knows?
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trump, with his 13 year old daughter, in 1996 . . . posing on a statue of parrots fucking
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CaDwN5zWQAE-qvW.jpg:large)
creepazoid robots, please report to the dance floor.
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One of my favorite creepy trump quotes:
hen asked how he would react if Ivanka, a former teen model, posed for Playboy, Trump replied, ?It would be really disappointing ? not really ? but it would depend on what?s inside the magazine.?
He added: ?I don?t think Ivanka would do that, although she does have a very nice figure. I?ve said if Ivanka weren?t my daughter, perhaps I?d be dating her.?
His comments drew laughs from the audience, and prompted ?View? co-host Joy Behar to crack, ?Who are you, Woody Allen??
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I don't really get into talking about other people's kids..
wow.. looks like Trump made a big mistake not going after Rubio...
looks like Cruz takes it with Rubio nipping at Trump's heels...evangelicals come through again... in record numbers and make sure the main wacko takes it...
its going to get real ugly before NH
the democratic caucus looks like a toss up...
I would love for Cruz to get the Republican nomination.... Trump not so much.. and Rubio I have to think could be dangerous....
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Kid rock has endorsed Trump, the bigger question is will he get the Juggalo vote.. wait juggalo's probably aren't registered voters, so nevermind...
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with 97% Rubio is barely behind Trump...
You could feel the Rubio surge the last couple of days.. Trump made a big mistake ignoring him....he spent his whole time talking about Cruz and it cost him..
Its hard to break it down completely... Does Trump all of a sudden lose his support in NH? I doubt it... so you could end up with a 3 man race... its hard to see Bush/Kasich/Christie or any of those guys doing much of anything when Rubio is so clearly the "sane" choice with a chance....basically voters willing to vote for an establishment guy made their choice in Iowa for Rubio.... but NH has a history of doing things different...and independents- I think can vote in NH- which could prove a boon to Trump... the Republican debate will be fascinating...
hoping Hillary hangs on.. a win is a win.. yes we'll hear about how well Sanders did and all that "feel the bern" idiocy (guys, time to retire that line..) but a win is a win....at this point the difference is about 1% if not less!!!!!!
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Huck...suspends
Hill barely holding on to the lead!
how'd MOM get 1%
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MOM about to suspend his campaign.
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Cruz 30
Trump 25
Rubio 25
Christie 5-10
Bush 5
Carson 5
pretty close
Cruz 28
Trump 24
Rubio 23
Carson 9
Paul 4
Christie 2 (way off on this one)
Bush 3
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MOM about to suspend his campaign.
If he'd done that at 6PM...do you think Bernie would have won?
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120,000 expected for the republican
225,000 for the dems
Republican turnout tonight now projects to be around 180,000
haven't heard about the dems yet
but I think that's good news, looks like it favored Rubio?
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My mom is the only Cruz supporter I know. I wonder if I should call /wake her up tonight and get her reaction?
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very excited HIllary CLinton won Iowa... and that I never have to hear about Iowa again..
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and that I never have to hear about Iowa again..
amen!
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Six precinct's were decided with a coin toss. Hillary won each of them.
source (http://www.marketwatch.com/story/coin-toss-broke-6-clinton-sanders-deadlocks-in-iowa-and-hillary-won-each-time-2016-02-02)
sounds like a conspiracy to me!
you know she made sure they had two sided coins on hand
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Six precinct's were decided with a coin toss. Hillary won each of them.
source (http://www.marketwatch.com/story/coin-toss-broke-6-clinton-sanders-deadlocks-in-iowa-and-hillary-won-each-time-2016-02-02)
sounds like a conspiracy to me!
you know she made sure they had two sided coins on hand
One in 64 chance of that happening if you're keeping score.
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wasn't sure if I should post this in the musicological thread
(https://consequenceofsound.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/bernie-sanders-starman.jpg?w=807)
Bernie Sanders celebrates Iowa caucus victory with David Bowie?s ?Starman? (http://consequenceofsound.net/2016/02/bernie-sanders-celebrates-iowa-caucus-victory-with-david-bowies-starman-watch/)
Ahead of Tuesday?s caucus, Sanders held a campaign rally that featured performances from Vampire Weekend and Foster the People. Other prominent musicians who have lent their support to the campaign include Jeff Tweedy, Killer Mike, and the Red Hot Chili Peppers, who will host a ?Feel the Bern? benefit concert at The Theatre at Ace Hotel in Los Angeles on February 5.
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Are we done with the narrative that Sanders and/or Trump has a chance at their party's nominations or are you all still idiots?
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or are you all still idiots?
quite possibly so
with Jeff tweedy, so goes the country
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with Jeff tweedy, so goes the country
So no one is watching the Super Bowl?
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with Jeff tweedy, so goes the country
So no one is watching the Super Bowl?
Is Coldplay still doing halftime...then yes
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(https://media.giphy.com/media/fVkwoWjfrXcBy/giphy.gif)
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and so goes paul...
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Now here is an endorsement (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEX-rblF1Ik) I can get behind!
light up for progress and change!
(http://www.trbimg.com/img-569345b5/turbine/la-pol-prez-tommy-chong-sanders-ad-20160110-002/650/650x366)
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OH SHIT GAME-CHANGING ANNOUNCEMENT
(http://static.stereogum.com/uploads/2016/02/Screen-Shot-2016-02-02-at-10.15.51-PM-640x379.png)
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^ all of a sudden i'm voting republican...
cruz might be popular in Iowa, but his daughter wants none of him:
(http://giant.gfycat.com/CornyDesertedAmmonite.gif)
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Poor thing, she probably never sees her dad.
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Six precinct's were decided with a coin toss. Hillary won each of them.
source (http://www.marketwatch.com/story/coin-toss-broke-6-clinton-sanders-deadlocks-in-iowa-and-hillary-won-each-time-2016-02-02)
sounds like a conspiracy to me!
you know she made sure they had two sided coins on hand
CNN seems to be reporting otherwise: http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/02/politics/hillary-clinton-coin-flip-iowa-bernie-sanders/index.html
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Six precinct's were decided with a coin toss. Hillary won each of them.
source (http://www.marketwatch.com/story/coin-toss-broke-6-clinton-sanders-deadlocks-in-iowa-and-hillary-won-each-time-2016-02-02)
sounds like a conspiracy to me!
you know she made sure they had two sided coins on hand
One in 64 chance of that happening if you're keeping score.
I meant to reply to this..so 1.6% chance is a different way to put that same response
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(https://media.giphy.com/media/3o7ZeC2C6WBLzdwAQE/giphy.gif)
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And Santorum faces reality and weeps
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And Santorum faces reality and weeps
more like sells out to the highest bidder...
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jeb!
jeb?
jeb...
http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2016/02/04/jeb-bush-audience-please-clap-new-hampshire-sot.cnn
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ha ha the ragin cajun.. so funny
"Well, you can't be any more progressive than Bernie Sanders.. I mean???"
so true......
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ha ha the ragin cajun.. so funny
"Well, you can't be any more progressive than Bernie Sanders.. I mean???"
so true......
well except on gun control...but for all the pros in my mind, I'm willing to give him a pass
Hil is going to crush in VA primaries, so I'll be voting for the sandman
if it's a nail biter in VA, I'll have to wrestle with my conscience
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ha ha the ragin cajun.. so funny
"Well, you can't be any more progressive than Bernie Sanders.. I mean???"
so true......
well except on gun control...but for all the pros in my mind, I'm willing to give him a pass
Hil is going to crush in VA primaries, so I'll be voting for the sandman
if it's a nail biter in VA, I'll have to wrestle with my conscience
i don't think you understand the way Carville meant it...
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i don't think you understand the way Carville meant it...
didn't watch the vid ;D
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i don't think you understand the way Carville meant it...
didn't watch the vid ;D
use your imagination
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MUST CHECK OUT: http://trumpdonald.org/
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What does it mean if trump wins new Hampshire, like everyone is saying he is?
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What does it mean if trump wins new Hampshire, like everyone is saying he is?
Nothing.
The primaries don't really start to matter until South Carolina and then Super Tuesday.
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The primaries don't really start to matter until South Carolina and then Super Tuesday.
Shh... don't let facts get in the way of the "Trump is a savvy politician who is winning the nomination" narrative that keeps getting discussed on here.
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what is a little scary is the title of this thread was I'm sure pure snark
it's crazy how close to reality that prediction might be...Sweets might need to hook me up with canuck couch I can surf for 4-8 years if so
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I went for a long run at lunch and thought about nothing but the election. I hate to say it, but I am starting to realize that we're in for President Rubio.
I don't know exactly what happens in NH for the GOP but I don't think it matters. Trump's star is in its decline and the GOP is going to let him flame himself out. Trump was all about being perceived as a winner and now that fantasy has been pricked, he's going to decline to middle of the pack and then he's absolutely done.
Meanwhile, the race is going to come down to Cruz vs Rubio, and there is not one person in the universe, apart from his wife, that can look at Ted Cruz's fat fucking face for so long without vomiting. Plus, Rubio's battles with Cruz will make him appear much more moderate, reasonable and attractive. While starting off slow-ish in Iowa and even possibly NH, he starts to really pick up as Trump fades. He becomes the "Oh thank god" candidate and he secures the nomination.
Meanwhile, Hillary and Bernie continue to pound each other out, and this drags into March/April. Hillary, suddenly realizing she's getting Baracked again, goes intensely negative. Bernie responds in turn, and by the time Hillary limps over the finish line, she's badly wounded. Even worse, the perception will be that she barely beat someone she should've trounced, while Rubio defeated the evil forces conspiring to kill the Republican Party. To middle-of-the-spectrum undecideds, Rubio seems energetic, poised, passionate, plus voting for the first Hispanic president gives everyone a warm feeling.
Going into the general, Rubio will have major wind at his back as the GOP breathes a sigh of relief that they didn't shit the bed completely with Trump or Cruz. Plus here's their chance to get the White House back! Republicans are fired up and ready to go. Meanwhile, Hillary has crushed the hopes and dreams of the progressives who were inspired by Bernie. She'll still have her defenders but she'll get frantic when Rubio consistently polls better than her, and her shrillness will thoroughly turn off those Democrats who would've sucked it up and voted for her. On Election Day, Rubio wins decidedly.
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/xk0Iu6g7G08/hqdefault.jpg)
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. He becomes the "Oh thank god" candidate and he secures the nomination.
relaxer, you never cease with your awesomeness
plus voting for the first Hispanic president gives everyone a warm feeling.
I highly doubt the people who want to build a wall and kick out 12 million will go to the polls to vote for Rico suave
(https://vsvevg.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/rico-suave1.jpg)
But you do have a really salient point on the independents...who are pretty much the largest political party
oh boy
We are really in trouble if isis beheads some blond cheerleader
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. He becomes the "Oh thank god" candidate and he secures the nomination.
relaxer, you never cease with your awesomeness
plus voting for the first Hispanic president gives everyone a warm feeling.
I highly doubt the people who want to build a wall and kick out 12 million will go to the polls to vote for Rico suave
(https://vsvevg.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/rico-suave1.jpg)
But you do have a really salient point on the independents...who are pretty much the largest political party
oh boy
We are really in trouble if isis beheads some blond cheerleader
Well thank you.
That said, I think the moderate Republicans and in-the-middles all blanched silently at Trump's immigration proposal. That was red-meat ignorance served up to idiots who think voting in the primary means "There I done voted and don't got to again for 4 years so is Trump presodent now?"
Now I would almost wonder if some ISIS action would actually benefit Hillary. My concern on her is that she's a secret hawk, and if there's an international incident, she's going to go Steel Thatcher on everyone and Rubio's voice is going to start quivering again and he'll be all
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Kdh58SaJ_Yg/VTZOx0vtK9I/AAAAAAAAHwo/OgpSOlJLkpY/s1600/rubio-photo-731024882.gif)
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He becomes the "Oh thank god" candidate and he secures the nomination.
Or as I or Nate Silver would call it "the person the party establishment rallies around."
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I don't buy it... if the economy keeps creating jobs and we don't have any terrorist attacks inshallah I think Hillary wins..
I'm also not counting Trump out.. things can change quickly...
I can say Sanders has no chance of ever being elected and pulling Hillary leftwards is a recipe for disaster.. his lemming supporters seem obliviious to reality though
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I wouldn't call Carson or Fiorina hot candidates. Without evangelical nutjobs, Carson's numbers will plummet down to where Fiorina is hovering - 2%. Both soon to be ex-candidates, thankfully.
Trump's kind of a sideshow. I think the better story of the primary season is that Hillary Clinton is losing to a 71-year old Socialist in both Iowa and New Hampshire.
I agree that the Trump thing looks and smells like a sideshow, but the fact is that he's been leading the GOP primaries for months now and there is no indication that he's going down any time soon. This is going well beyond the Gingrich/Cain/Bachmann/Paul/Romney 2012 shitshow where every candidate had his/her turn at the top of the polls. This is Trump out there, totally winging it with no filter, calling everyone idiots, insulting anyone who asks him a slightly penetrating question, and just climbing higher and higher.
The three hottest GOP candidates, Trump, Carson, and Fiorina, have never held any political office yet they account for more than 50 percent of poll "votes". This is the shitshow to watch, no matter what chagrined Republicans say.
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just got this depressing email from Hillary.. she keeps asking for money but I don't care.. I dont' think money decides elections at all.....it just goes to overpaid idiots (consultants) and pays for stupid ads.. if money had much impact Jeb Bush would be doing far better.. of course money helps... I don't know.. I hate to contribute money to Hillary at this point..
Friend --
For the first time this campaign, we're being outraised by our opponent. Bernie raised more than $20 million in January (and another $3 million so far this month) -- we fell short at only $15 million for Hillary for America.
If you've believed that Hillary Clinton is going to win this election because other people are going to step up and take care of it, this should be a very loud wake-up call.
There's no cavalry coming -- it's just people like you who are going to decide whether or not to step up to elect the first woman president our country has ever had.
If you're with her, chip in $1 to show it today:
Donate $1
Thank you,
Dennis
Dennis Cheng
National Finance Director
Hillary for America
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I wouldn't call Carson or Fiorina hot candidates. Without evangelical nutjobs, Carson's numbers will plummet down to where Fiorina is hovering - 2%. Both soon to be ex-candidates, thankfully.
Trump's kind of a sideshow. I think the better story of the primary season is that Hillary Clinton is losing to a 71-year old Socialist in both Iowa and New Hampshire.
I agree that the Trump thing looks and smells like a sideshow, but the fact is that he's been leading the GOP primaries for months now and there is no indication that he's going down any time soon. This is going well beyond the Gingrich/Cain/Bachmann/Paul/Romney 2012 shitshow where every candidate had his/her turn at the top of the polls. This is Trump out there, totally winging it with no filter, calling everyone idiots, insulting anyone who asks him a slightly penetrating question, and just climbing higher and higher.
The three hottest GOP candidates, Trump, Carson, and Fiorina, have never held any political office yet they account for more than 50 percent of poll "votes". This is the shitshow to watch, no matter what chagrined Republicans say.
Dude, I made that post six months and 43 pages ago. A wee bit has changed since then, wouldn't you say?
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come on cut Relaxer some slack he is our in house political pundit and they're supposed to be able to change what they say all the time without being called out on it so leave him be!
(actually I think Relaxer has been pretty spot on overall)
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just got this depressing email from Hillary.. she keeps asking for money but I don't care.. I dont' think money decides elections at all.....it just goes to overpaid idiots (consultants) and pays for stupid ads.. if money had much impact Jeb Bush would be doing far better.. of course money helps... I don't know.. I hate to contribute money to Hillary at this point..
(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--vyALJbHc--/o6p5ktoh5h6rfrn9imw7.png) (http://gawker.com/which-candidates-campaign-spends-the-most-money-on-pizz-1756384862)
Maybe she should spend less on pizza (or maybe her staff has too damn many people).
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Of course that number represents Christie's personal pizza budget.
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http://gawker.com/ted-cruz-super-pac-releases-new-ad-that-misspells-the-w-1757129328
Ted Cruz Super PAC Releases New Ad That Misspells the Word "Country"
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http://gawker.com/ted-cruz-super-pac-releases-new-ad-that-misspells-the-w-1757129328
Ted Cruz Super PAC Releases New Ad That Misspells the Word "Country"
I can't be the only guy who was hoping for this:
(http://www.savingcountrymusic.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/shooter-jennings-put-the-o-back-in-country.jpg)
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Of course that number represents Christie's personal pizza budget.
I greatly believe that Christie campaign number is fudged. There's no way its that low. There's just no way.
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Of course that number represents Christie's personal pizza budget.
I greatly believe that Christie campaign number is fudged. There's no way its that low. There's just no way.
I know and he's from Jersey, I predict this will be his next bridge scandal
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boy rubio is cheap..
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boy rubio is cheap..
yeah, but they didn't show his campaigns Chimichanga budget
ba-dum ching
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boy rubio is cheap..
yeah, but they didn't show his campaigns Chimichanga budget
ba-dum ching
yes i thought of going there,,,,,but no,,,
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boy rubio is cheap..
yeah, but they didn't show his campaigns Chimichanga budget
ba-dum ching
This reminds me of one of my favorite Bob Griese moment (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bE4XhdgjD64). So good. So damn good.
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Of course that number represents Christie's personal pizza budget.
I greatly believe that Christie campaign number is fudged. There's no way its that low. There's just no way.
I know and he's from Jersey, I predict this will be his next bridge scandal
Coincidentally, TIL that there's a little town in NJ called Cheesequake (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheesequake,_New_Jersey) :o
h/t @TerpWeather (https://twitter.com/TerpWeather)
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there's a little town in NJ called Cheesequake (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheesequake,_New_Jersey) :o
Great f'n band name!
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An absolutely spectacular read about Ted Cruz (http://theslot.jezebel.com/heres-what-happens-when-you-try-and-track-down-a-ted-cr-1752337625)
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Ted needs a good trussing:
http://m.dailykos.com/story/2016/2/4/1480113/-Ted-Cruz-s-Logo-Hilariously-Appropriate
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boy rubio is cheap..
yeah, but they didn't show his campaigns Chimichanga budget
ba-dum ching
This reminds me of one of my favorite Bob Griese moment (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bE4XhdgjD64). So good. So damn good.
My dad's favorite football player. Thank you for letting me think of my dad.
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Hey man, no problem. He was great. His kid will always have a special place in my heart as the QB of the only Michigan football national championship in my lifetime. Long live all things Griese!
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I did not watch the debate (I was at a show, plus I would never watch a GOP debate) but from the clips I saw, I got three takeaways.
1. They must have not rehearsed their entrances; that was the most awkward thing that I saw today.
2. Rubio is a robot who was malfunctioning.
3. Trump is ready to start torturing, because, medieval times.
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I did not watch the debate (I was at a show, plus I would never watch a GOP debate) but from the clips I saw, I got three takeaways.
1. They must have not rehearsed their entrances; that was the most awkward thing that I saw today.
2. Rubio is a robot who was malfunctioning.
3. Trump is ready to start torturing, because, medieval times.
Did somebody say we're living in medieval times?
http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/06/health/200-million-with-fgm/
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Should we go torture them?
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Should we go torture them?
Fuck Starbucks
http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/07/world/saudi-starbucks-women-ban-feat/index.html
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So...in about 30 hours we'll be getting the results in the NH primary
Dem:
Sanders looks like he'll take it
S-60%
H-40%
Reb:
Kasich is gaining some ground, but trump looks to dominate. Would love to see cruz at 4 or 5
T- 29 %
R- 25%
K-15 %
Cruz- 12%
B - 9 %
Christie - 5%
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where the fuck is the relaxer punditry/forecast...
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I'm kinda stumped, kinda shook. My grand Rubio theory was torpedoed at that last debate. I mean, he just got sat on and farted upon by a giggling, ass-wiggling Christie. Just imagine Marco Rubio's face all up in Chris' buffalo butt and Chris is all
(https://media.giphy.com/media/ZUJesWnnyGmkw/giphy.gif)
So Marco Polo's momentum has been slowed. This benefits Trump because the previous Rubio-with-wind-at-his-back might appeal to a few of the Trumpers who, in a moment of weird and rare clarity, realize "Oh right, I'm not clinically brain dead" and vote for the Not-Trump Who Actually Has A Shot. But now that Rubio has been weakened, the wavering Trumper is less likely to be rational and instead will take out his cock and press the Trump button with it.
Christie gets a slight bump, but just as his attacks on Rubio resonated with people because they confirmed the overall narrative on Marco, it also solidified the fact that most people think Christie is a fat dick. I mean, there's value to his whole "Are you fucking kidding me here?!?" persona, but I think that turns a lot of people off. He limps out out of there in 5th or 6th place and is out of the race by the end of February.
Kasich could do well here. He's still enshrouded in that loser stink of single digit national polls, but he keeps making the most of his opportunities to remind people that not all the GOP candidates are Yosemite Sam. He's by far the GOP candidate I could live with the most, as he is conservative but understands the priority is getting things done. He'd do a lot of shitty shit but I don't think his administration would be as bad as, say, Cruz's Scorched Earth White House.
Bush has about as much momentum as a guy that looks like this could have:
(http://cdn.thewire.com/media/img/mt/2015/08/RTX1LKI3/lead_large.jpg)
i.e. a nice, modest amount. Only his money is keeping him afloat right now.
So I'd have to guess that the final results are something like this:
Trump 35
Rubio 15
Kasich 13
Cruz 12
Christie 8
Bush 5
Carson and Fiorina lol
I'm not doing the math on that.
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god that such a great gif I laughed so hard I couldn't read his commentary
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I'm not doing the math on that.
(35 + 15 + 13 + 12 + 8 + 5) + LOL + LOL = 100
88 + 2(LOL) = 100
2(LOL) = 12
LOL = 6%
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the polls are so different.. I just saw one that has Bush at 17 and an hour before I saw one that had him at 7....
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I guess my gut tells me Trump is not doing well and Bush insulting him left and right probably doesn't help... although you'd have to think he'll win even with less than 30%....and that the "Shaheen Machine" is going to get the vote out for Hillary and keep her loss within 10 points of Bernie... but thats about it...
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Come on hutch...put your commas where your mouth is and make a prediction
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I am waving my dick in the wind..
Trump 30
Kasich 21
Bush 17
Rubio 14
Cruz 9
Christie 7
Carson/Fiorina *
Sanderwitzky 54
Hillary 46
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Kasich 21
Bush 17
damn...I hope special K gets that much
I predict Bush won't crack double digits...please clap
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Sanderwitzky 54
Hillary 46
If Sanders goes into a highly contrarian, socialist-friendly state with no minorities and only manages to beat Hillary by 8%, his campaign goes from theoretically dead to actually dead.
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wow Kasich holding on to #2
and bush nipping at cruz...I didn't predict that
but Hutch could be right with T->K->B
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nobody ever got rich overestimating the intelligence of the American people...
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Sanderwitzky 54
Hillary 46
If Sanders goes into a highly contrarian, socialist-friendly state with no minorities and only manages to beat Hillary by 8%, his campaign goes from theoretically dead to actually dead.
So what does 22% mean?
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Sanderwitzky 54
Hillary 46
If Sanders goes into a highly contrarian, socialist-friendly state with no minorities and only manages to beat Hillary by 8%, his campaign goes from theoretically dead to actually dead.
So what does 22% mean?
It confirms there are no minorities in NH, that NH is in no way representative of the nation as a whole, and we need to have a national primary day as opposed to piecemeal-ing this out.
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Sanderwitzky 54
Hillary 46
If Sanders goes into a highly contrarian, socialist-friendly state with no minorities and only manages to beat Hillary by 8%, his campaign goes from theoretically dead to actually dead.
So what does 22% mean?
It means I was off by 14%....
The funny thing is I agree with Sanders in pretty much everything.....I just cannot believe that he would do anything but get creamed in a general election...unless the country has changed so much in 8 years....
Its weird its almost as if the democratic primary last night was won by a non-democrat and the republican primary was won by a non-republican.. as if the parties are failing to represent what the American people want...and outsiders are hijacking them..
If we look at US history since the constitutional convention we see very little in terms of "revolution" or dramatic changes (Jefferson? Jackson?)....this is why I find the idea that Sanders would be elected very unlikely.....Trump on the other hand doesn't want a revolution.. he just wants to be President....The latter is more likely than the former..
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The funny thing is I agree with Sanders in pretty much everything.....I just cannot believe that he would be able to accomplish anything during his hypothetical Presidency because the President is not a king who gets everything he wants because we have three distinct branches of government.
FTFY
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The funny thing is I agree with Sanders in pretty much everything.....I just cannot believe that he would be able to accomplish anything during his hypothetical Presidency because the President is not a king who gets everything he wants because we have three distinct branches of government.
FTFY
oh I don't know.. I mean I hear you.. its not as if he accomplished anything as Senator because he is that wacko socialist from Vermont... but lets say that Sanders could somehow win the presidency.. .that would mean something and would have impact I think... because what he stands for is so clear that it would be an American endorsement of his views and other politiicans would have to come around... there would be issues with the courts though at least in the short term... also if somebody could get elected in a dominating performance with socialist views presumably Senators and Representatives and Governors would also tap into that... so he would not be alone.. but, yeah, it would be a huge uphill battle.... he really would need a big mandate... add to that the fact he would be sworn in at 75! maybe he has good genes but in your late 70s you tend to slow down quite a bit...
I just think the above is all irrelevant because he would get creamed.. the American people are not socialists... a majority of them do not believe we should break up the 5 largest banks or in universal health care provided by the governemnt and higher taxes to pay for it etc etc..
I mean in a sense Sanders is the candidate of the 1% movement....and he's going to be President?
But ultimately it comes down to trying to understand where the American people are.. are they so shellshocked and pissed off after the great recession that they have become socialists? I find that hard to beleive... The progressive wing of the Democratic Party as socialists? Sure i can see that.. but the country I know is just not like that....
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So I ran the numbers of what Hutch, Sidehatch and I predicted (way to puss out, other people) compared to what the candidates actually got.
In the end, I believe that I won the NH primary, with Hutch and Sidehatch valiantly fighting for second (last) place. On to South Carolina!
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1624/24937772085_0bde08bb6b_c.jpg)
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Sidehatch won the Democrat side because I didn't answer and Hutch might as well not have answered.
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So I ran the numbers of what Hutch, Sidehatch and I predicted (way to puss out, other people) compared to what the candidates actually got.
Oh, wait, you're making a competition out of this? Nate Silver and I are in for SC.
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Look, I don't have a lot going on in my life right now, I take the victories I can take.
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Look, I don't have a lot going on in my life right now, I take the victories I can take.
No snark intended. Making a competition out of it legitimately makes me want to participate and I just texted Nate and he feels the same. Also him and I are going to Gathering of the Juggalos together. (No homo.)
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Sidehatch won the Democrat side because I didn't answer and Hutch might as well not have answered.
Gotta play to win
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look we all know Relaxer is the resident pundit.... not only for his predictive capabilities but also his rollicking take on debates..
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"pundit" sounds like a description of a short person
And I am FIVE FOOT NINE ALMOST thank you very much
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(https://media.giphy.com/media/3o6gb8kYZCQTve595e/giphy.gif)
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So I ran the numbers of what Hutch, Sidehatch and I predicted (way to puss out, other people) compared to what the candidates actually got.
In the end, I believe that I won the NH primary, with Hutch and Sidehatch valiantly fighting for second (last) place. On to South Carolina!
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1624/24937772085_0bde08bb6b_c.jpg)
I'm not sure about this way of measuring who did better.. I just got to say that...after all the biggest takeaways have to be:
1. Trump wins (dominant)
2. Kasich in second
3. Bush rejuvenated
4. Strong Cruz
5. Rubio wilts
6. Christie OUT
7. Carson/Fiorina pretty much done
so you'd have to look at the numbers, ordering, etc
just doing difference from what you picked for final number is a little too simple because the real important conclusions get lost in there.. does that make sense?
I would say that of the 7 I did this way
1. yes/no half credit?
2. yes
3. yes
4. no
5. yes
6. yes
7. yes
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Yeah, statistics and math are... not my friend. I went for the easiest way possible. Maybe for SC we should all measure our dongs and go with that.
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Maybe for SC we should all measure our dongs and go with that.
I just texted this idea to Nate and he wants to know whether this is homo or no homo.
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so homo
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no no.. we can keep going like this.. unless julian has a better idea..
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so homo
We, are, in
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The Nightly Show has been on top of their game lately. The other night they showed the two Rudio ads airing on Iowa and New Hampshire which use the same script except with different people saying the lines. Dude is p lagiarizing himself..
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as if the parties are failing to represent what the American people want...and outsiders are hijacking them..
"as is"? it's exactly what's happening.
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unless julian has a better idea..
I mean, I like being snarky and telling you all when you're being idiots for being hyper-reactionary to things and ignore hundreds of year of electoral precedent but there's no way to turn that into a competition so I say we go with Relaxer's penis thing.
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as if the parties are failing to represent what the American people want...and outsiders are hijacking them..
"as is"? it's exactly what's happening.
well I think so too..
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I still think a Bush-Hillary election might be the most likely outcome....
At this point on the Republican side I think Trump, Cruz and Bush are the best positioned....
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unless julian has a better idea..
I mean, I like being snarky and telling you all when you're being idiots for being hyper-reactionary to things and ignore hundreds of year of electoral precedent but there's no way to turn that into a competition so I say we go with Relaxer's penis thing.
I agree
This is me, by the way
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1595/24820424072_567cb65b5a_o.jpg)
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If we're talking about penis measurement only, I'm sure we can all agree that Carson would have it in the bag. The Latinos would be dead last, unless somebody could convince an Asian to run.
I've also always wondered why a reasonably handsome neurosurgeon couldn't bag a hotter wife.
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Sidehatch won the Democrat side because I didn't answer and Hutch might as well not have answered.
a win's a win! and I'd like to thank the little people...but also Nate silver and RCP for some guidance on where to go
Man, don't know what I was thinking giving Rubio 25...I think originally I had him at 15, but didn't suspect Kasich would come in so strong.
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So I ran the numbers of what Hutch, Sidehatch and I predicted (way to puss out, other people) compared to what the candidates actually got.
In the end, I believe that I won the NH primary, with Hutch and Sidehatch valiantly fighting for second (last) place. On to South Carolina!
I'm not sure about this way of measuring who did better.. I just got to say that...after all the biggest takeaways have to be:
1. Trump wins (dominant)
2. Kasich in second
3. Bush rejuvenated
4. Strong Cruz
5. Rubio wilts
6. Christie OUT
7. Carson/Fiorina pretty much done
so you'd have to look at the numbers, ordering, etc
just doing difference from what you picked for final number is a little too simple because the real important conclusions get lost in there.. does that make sense?
I would say that of the 7 I did this way
1. yes/no half credit?
2. yes
3. yes
4. no
5. yes
6. yes
7. yes
I do think Hutch does get some credit for picking 1,2 and 3
Not sure how to weight that vs the way Relaxer did
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If we're talking about penis measurement only, I'm sure we can all agree that Carson would have it in the bag. The Latinos would be dead last, unless somebody could convince an Asian to run.
I've also always wondered why a reasonably handsome neurosurgeon couldn't bag a hotter wife.
too bad Jindal dropped out, might have helped your post have a little more arc
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Hutch got 1 and 2 right. He had Bush at 3.
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I concede defeat and congratulate Relaxer even if I might not always agree with him... now we take it to NEVADA AND SOUTH CAROLINA!!!!!!!!!!!! woooooooooooooooooooo.. join us!
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Hutch got 1 and 2 right. He had Bush at 3.
my bad, that is correct, but having K in at #2 was bold...we both had Rubio and he came in 4th
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The point is Relaxer had Bush at 5% and I had him at 17%.. in the end he got 11% so with the differential system we both did as well or badly..
But Bush's performance was relatively strong and he is rejuvenated (particularly for beating Rubio)...
but like I said I am fine doing it with differentials and Relaxer is our guru and light.
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If we're talking about penis measurement only, I'm sure we can all agree that Carson would have it in the bag. The Latinos would be dead last, unless somebody could convince an Asian to run.
I've also always wondered why a reasonably handsome neurosurgeon couldn't bag a hotter wife.
too bad Jindal dropped out, might have helped your post have a little more arc
It appears that the Latinos have more than I gave them credit for. Cuba a very respectable #40.
http://klaq.com/worldwide-penis-survey-heres-the-chart-were-talking-about-this-a-m/
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Cuba? what about Ecuador (2) , Colombia (5), Venezuela (6), Panama (12), Nicaragua (13), Brazil (15), Peru (16), Puerto Rico (17), Dominican Republic (20)?
9 of the top 20 are in Latin America.
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Cuba? what about Ecuador (2) , Colombia (5), Venezuela (6), Panama (12), Nicaragua (13), Brazil (15), Peru (16), Puerto Rico (17), Dominican Republic (20)?
9 of the top 20 are in Latin America.
Are there rankings of what countries have the most women with hair on their upper lip?
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Cuba? what about Ecuador (2) , Colombia (5), Venezuela (6), Panama (12), Nicaragua (13), Brazil (15), Peru (16), Puerto Rico (17), Dominican Republic (20)?
9 of the top 20 are in Latin America.
I singled out Cuba because Cruz and Rubio have ties to it.
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If we're talking about penis measurement only, I'm sure we can all agree that Carson would have it in the bag. The Latinos would be dead last, unless somebody could convince an Asian to run.
I've also always wondered why a reasonably handsome neurosurgeon couldn't bag a hotter wife.
too bad Jindal dropped out, might have helped your post have a little more arc
It appears that the Latinos have more than I gave them credit for. Cuba a very respectable #40.
http://klaq.com/worldwide-penis-survey-heres-the-chart-were-talking-about-this-a-m/
Ecuador, Columbia and Venezuela are all in the top 6
I find it hard to believe that the British dongs are .42 inches bigger on average than USA!
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Cuba? what about Ecuador (2) , Colombia (5), Venezuela (6), Panama (12), Nicaragua (13), Brazil (15), Peru (16), Puerto Rico (17), Dominican Republic (20)?
9 of the top 20 are in Latin America.
I will say the African influence on populations in Brazil and the Dominican Republic kinda skew those numbers
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Which one of you predicted this:
Although she lost by 22 points in NH, Hillary Clinton leaves with 15 of the state's delegates compared to Bernie's 13 because of Super Delegates.
Yet another reason why IA and NH simply don't matter.
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50 mins with tons of cameos
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Christie's out
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Christie's out
keep seeing 'likely' or 'expected' but no actual suspension from his team?
retraction....1:06 is was posted on CBS (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/chris-christie-ends-presidential-campaign/)
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Which one of you predicted this:
Although she lost by 22 points in NH, Hillary Clinton leaves with 15 of the state's delegates compared to Bernie's 13 because of Super Delegates.
Yet another reason why IA and NH simply don't matter.
not true... the superdelegates are free to change their mind.. so they may be supporting Hillary NOW but if she continues to lose they will jump to Bernie... if they decide she is unelectable they will switch...they may even switch just to ally themselves with Bernie if they feel he could win... I don't put much stock in superdelegates...
for sure IA and NH matter a lot...if you don't think they matter go talk to O'malley, Christie, and all the others who are no longer running for president...
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not true... the superdelegates are free to change their mind..
Oh, it absolutely is true yesterday, today and right up until mid-March when this race is over and she starts tacking to the center.
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Tell Fiorina NH doesn't matter.... or the Bush campaign that spent $50 million there...
maybe you're trying to make some other point but I don't get what you are saying..
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not true... the superdelegates are free to change their mind..
Oh, it absolutely is true yesterday, today and right up until mid-March when this race is over and she starts tacking to the center.
Do I think Hillary is going to crush Bernie and this is just a media show...sure....but I don't understand what you're saying about NH and Iowa not mattering.....Even as a Hillary supporter who thinks she is going to spank Sanders (can I get a gif of that?) I still think what happened yesterday does matter...
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Carly just ran out of ink
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It's a darn good thing replacement printer cartridges are so expensive
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then there were 6
why is carson still in this?
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but I don't understand what you're saying about NH and Iowa not mattering.....
They are the internet equivalent of writing "first" in the comments section and nothing else.
Their diversity, in terms of ethnicity, age, gender and religion, do not reflect the general populous, nor do they reflect many of the swing states that actually matter. Their populations are so small that winning 100% of both states would be wiped out with winning just 40% of South Carolina.
They have silly rules do not match other states which serve to make their voting less reliable for future polling. For example, the silliness of a caucus aside - to participate in the NH Primary, you can change you party affiliation for the 3 minutes it takes you to vote and switch it right back.
They are simply a self-created media circus who, if they didn't work so hard to maintain their "first" in the primary season, no candidate would spend 20% of what was spent there in the past 5 months.
And don't use people dropping out after IA or NH as an example as to why they are important - those were never runs from the beginning. Jeb Bush being the outlier - if Texas doesn't save him on March 1, then more books will be written about his failed campaign than any of the winning campaigns, save for Trump. But that's not going to happen either.
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then there were 6
why is carson still in this?
As long as people keep giving him money (which they do) that he can give to his friends running his campaign (which he does) then he will stay in this.
Plus black people in SC.
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but I don't understand what you're saying about NH and Iowa not mattering.....
They are the internet equivalent of writing "first" in the comments section and nothing else.
Their diversity, in terms of ethnicity, age, gender and religion, do not reflect the general populous, nor do they reflect many of the swing states that actually matter. Their populations are so small that winning 100% of both states would be wiped out with winning just 40% of South Carolina.
They have silly rules do not match other states which serve to make their voting less reliable for future polling. For example, the silliness of a caucus aside - to participate in the NH Primary, you can change you party affiliation for the 3 minutes it takes you to vote and switch it right back.
They are simply a self-created media circus who, if they didn't work so hard to maintain their "first" in the primary season, no candidate would spend 20% of what was spent there in the past 5 months.
And don't use people dropping out after IA or NH as an example as to why they are important - those were never runs from the beginning. Jeb Bush being the outlier - if Texas doesn't save him on March 1, then more books will be written about his failed campaign than any of the winning campaigns, save for Trump. But that's not going to happen either.
well I agree with a lot of what you say but the conclusion could not be more wrong.... they may be a media circus, the states may not be typical, they may have ridiculous rules et etc but they do matter very much.. they would not matter IF we had a one day primary process.. but the way its organized what happens in Iowa and New Hampshire sets the table for the states that follow and impacts on the results from those states
For example, Obama's victory in Iowa mattered very much... we may not like the caucus process and think its all a bit of a joke but come on now...would you also say that Iowa didn't matter to Jimmy Carter? Or that finishing second in the wake of the infidelity rumours didn't matter to Bill Clinton in NH? Of course it mattered.
I think in the modern day of parties selecting candidates going back to 1976 the only president who didn't win Iowa or New Hampshire yet won the presidency was Bill Clinton in 1992...that is at least ten cycles...
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You've obviously never worked on a campaign and rely solely on mainstream media for not only your news, but your narrative as well.
I'll just start with Obama in 2008. While winning in Iowa was nice, it signified one thing - he was the strongest proponent of ethanol. That's all you needed to win Iowa in 2008 (I say that because that's changing now).
Our numbers before the Iowa caucus indicated that we were already beating Clinton and Edwards - two Carolina favorites - in South Carolina and that was going to be the moment when people took the campaign seriously. Not Iowa.
Iowa was nothing more than a nice test for the on the ground organization.
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You've obviously never worked on a campaign and rely solely on mainstream media for not only your news, but your narrative as well.
I'll just start with Obama in 2008. While winning in Iowa was nice, it signified one thing - he was the strongest proponent of ethanol. That's all you needed to win Iowa in 2008 (I say that because that's changing now).
Our numbers before the Iowa caucus indicated that we were already beating Clinton and Edwards - two Carolina favorites - in South Carolina and that was going to be the moment when people took the campaign seriously. Not Iowa.
well I did my fair share for Obama.. but I completely disagree..winning a primarily african-american state would not have made people take the campaign seriously like winning an almost exclusively white state.... winning Iowa was not just a seminal moment for Obama but also the country...
but good luck with these alternate universe arguments of yours...
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but good luck with these alternate universe arguments of yours...
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Trump wants to kill the leader of North korea, on live tv. I can see, why he is so popular.
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Trump wants to kill the leader of North korea, on live tv. I can see, why he is so popular.
That's pretty much the kind of thing the leader of North Korea would do.
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Trump wants to kill the leader of North korea, on live tv. I can see, why he is so popular.
can he just do rodman instead?
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well I did my fair share for Obama.. but I completely disagree..winning a primarily african-american state would not have made people take the campaign seriously like winning an almost exclusively white state.... winning Iowa was not just a seminal moment for Obama but also the country...
but good luck with these alternate universe arguments of yours...
Good thing there's an election right now where you have the opportunity to prove me wrong. Best of luck.
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winning Iowa was not just a seminal moment for Obama but also the country...
Are you high?
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well I did my fair share for Obama.. but I completely disagree..winning a primarily african-american state would not have made people take the campaign seriously like winning an almost exclusively white state.... winning Iowa was not just a seminal moment for Obama but also the country...
but good luck with these alternate universe arguments of yours...
Good thing there's an election right now where you have the opportunity to prove me wrong. Best of luck.
I don't see how the fact South Carolina -or any other set of states- matters will prove Iowa and NH don't matter....sorry.
Remember you're the one who said Iowa and NH don't matter so if anyone has to prove anything I think its you....
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winning Iowa was not just a seminal moment for Obama but also the country...
Are you high?
I don't get high anymore...I mean if someone has some blow to share sure.. but I don't see that happening anymore...
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well I did my fair share for Obama.. but I completely disagree..winning a primarily african-american state would not have made people take the campaign seriously like winning an almost exclusively white state....
What do you consider to be a "primarily african-american state"?
There are exactly zero states that have at least 50% or higher African-American population.
http://kff.org/other/state-indicator/distribution-by-raceethnicity/
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well I did my fair share for Obama.. but I completely disagree..winning a primarily african-american state would not have made people take the campaign seriously like winning an almost exclusively white state....
What do you consider to be a "primarily african-american state"?
There are exactly zero states that have at least 50% or higher African-American population.
http://kff.org/other/state-indicator/distribution-by-raceethnicity/
I meant the electorate in the democratic primary is primarily African-American.. sorry.
Got to say I had never heard anyone make the argument that Iowa did not matter or that President Obama was counting on SC
It has been a long established fact that it was the Iowa victory that led African Americans to take Obama's candidacy seriously..before that happened in polls African Americans were supporting Hillary...Once they saw he could win (when he won white Iowa) they began to give him a serious look...
But apparently in the Smackie world of fiction Obama would have lost Iowa , gone on to lose New Hampshire, then won South Carolina and somehow won the nomination.... this is seriously bizzarro..
anyways, got to take the kids to their therapies so I will have to beg off this thread
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well I did my fair share for Obama.. but I completely disagree..winning a primarily african-american state would not have made people take the campaign seriously like winning an almost exclusively white state....
What do you consider to be a "primarily african-american state"?
There are exactly zero states that have at least 50% or higher African-American population.
http://kff.org/other/state-indicator/distribution-by-raceethnicity/
although 27% and I'm fairly certain everyone of them are Democrats
so a majority of Democrats in SC are African American
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It has been a long established fact that it was the Iowa victory that led African Americans to take Obama's candidacy seriously..before that happened in polls African Americans were supporting Hillary...Once they saw he could win (when he won white Iowa) they began to give him a serious look...
Horse shit. Pure, unadulterated horse shit.
Here (http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/bernie-sanders-youre-no-barack-obama/#fn-1) is a 538 article that links to two polls from around AUGUST 2007 showing Obama with close to 50% support among African Americans. While that did climb to 82% by the end of the Democratic Primaries, the idea that there was a massive swing from Hillary to Obama post-Iowa, or that Hillary led among African-American voters, is fiction.
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It has been a long established fact that it was the Iowa victory that led African Americans to take Obama's candidacy seriously..before that happened in polls African Americans were supporting Hillary...Once they saw he could win (when he won white Iowa) they began to give him a serious look...
Horse shit. Pure, unadulterated horse shit.
...opps retraction as I thought you were talking about 2016
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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/democratic_presidential_nomination-191.html#polls
For reference: Jan 3 was Iowa, Jan8 was NH, Jan 27 was SC. When do you think that race turned?
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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/democratic_presidential_nomination-191.html#polls
For reference: Jan 3 was Iowa, Jan8 was NH, Jan 27 was SC. When do you think that race turned?
you don't think this poll was a result of a win in Iowa
Rasmussen 1/8 - 1/11 401 LV 21 22 -- -- -- Clinton +1
before Jan 3rd she was + teens/20s
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The Trump troll was bringin' the lolz last night.
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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/democratic_presidential_nomination-191.html#polls
For reference: Jan 3 was Iowa, Jan8 was NH, Jan 27 was SC. When do you think that race turned?
you don't think this poll was a result of a win in Iowa
Rasmussen 1/8 - 1/11 401 LV 21 22 -- -- -- Clinton +1
before Jan 3rd she was + teens/20s
You are literally looking at a comprehensive list of polls and picking the outlier. I see 5 polls on each side of that with overlapping dates that have Hillary still comfortably ahead. There is a trend of Hillary leading by a large margin in 95% of the polls until the week after SC and Nevada when, on a dime, Obama starts leading in virtually every poll thereafter.
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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/democratic_presidential_nomination-191.html#polls
For reference: Jan 3 was Iowa, Jan8 was NH, Jan 27 was SC. When do you think that race turned?
you don't think this poll was a result of a win in Iowa
Rasmussen 1/8 - 1/11 401 LV 21 22 -- -- -- Clinton +1
before Jan 3rd she was + teens/20s
You are literally looking at a comprehensive list of polls and picking the outlier. I see 5 polls on each side of that with overlapping dates that have Hillary still comfortably ahead. I see no giant trend to Obama leading until the immediate aftermath of the SC and Nevada primaries.
Ok was a cherry pick...but this poll was done just days after Iowa
although...the original argument is when African American's turned...and these polls don't show that
The Clintons have historically done well in that community
I've a reporter friend who often says "Obama wasn't the first black president, Bill Clinton was the first Black president"
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although...the original argument is when African American's turned...and these polls don't show that
I edited my "pure unadulterated horseshit" post with a link to an article that links in a footnote to several polls which have Obama with ~50% support among African-American voters close to a half a year before Iowa.
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although...the original argument is when African American's turned...and these polls don't show that
I edited my "pure unadulterated horseshit" post with a link to an article that links in a footnote to several polls which have Obama with ~50% support among African-American voters close to a half a year before Iowa.
50% kinda sucks, you'd think he'd get 95% right off the bat
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although...the original argument is when African American's turned...and these polls don't show that
I edited my "pure unadulterated horseshit" post with a link to an article that links in a footnote to several polls which have Obama with ~50% support among African-American voters close to a half a year before Iowa.
50% kinda sucks, you'd think he'd get 95% right off the bat
He ended up at 82%, for some context.
Regardless, if Obama was ~50% that far out, it is absurd to argue that Hillary led with black voters at any time in that race much less debate what was the turning point.
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although...the original argument is when African American's turned...and these polls don't show that
I edited my "pure unadulterated horseshit" post with a link to an article that links in a footnote to several polls which have Obama with ~50% support among African-American voters close to a half a year before Iowa.
50% kinda sucks, you'd think he'd get 95% right off the bat
He ended up at 82%, for some context.
Regardless, if Obama was ~50% that far out, it is absurd to argue that Hillary led with black voters at any time in that race much less debate what was the turning point.
The turning point in the Obama candidacy was when he won Iowa... you must have been out of the country or something.. everything happened very quickly after that.. the Yes We Can speech, video by Will I am, endorsement by Ted Kennedy, etc....
The point isn't that NO African Americans were supporting Obama before Iowa but the huge support came after Iowa... I guess you also don't remember when Oprah went down to South Carolina to rally support among the African American community..as in your imaginary world he didn't need that cause he already had 100% support among African Americans..
Really its sad I have to take time out of my busy schedule to spank your cherry pickin' ass...
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The turning point in the Obama candidacy was when he won Iowa... you must have been out of the country or something.. everything happened very quickly after that.. the Yes We Can speech, video by Will I am, endorsement by Ted Kennedy, etc....
I don't remember it happening quickly. In fact, I remember the primary getting dragged out forever. Hillary didn't actually drop out until June, so while Obama had a lead, it was still very suspenseful and Hillary continued to win states into the spring.
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The point isn't that NO African Americans were supporting Obama before Iowa but the huge support came after Iowa... I guess you also don't remember when Oprah went down to South Carolina to rally support among the African American community..as in your imaginary world he didn't need that cause he already had 100% support among African Americans..
The point is you specifically said Hillary Clinton led among African-Americans pre-Iowa. This is 100% false and there's no "I guess you don't remembers" in my argument, I gave you a fucking link to polls. Actual metrics and numbers with dates attached to them trump your recollection of Will.I.Am videos.
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The point isn't that NO African Americans were supporting Obama before Iowa but the huge support came after Iowa... I guess you also don't remember when Oprah went down to South Carolina to rally support among the African American community..as in your imaginary world he didn't need that cause he already had 100% support among African Americans..
The point is you specifically said Hillary Clinton led among African-Americans pre-Iowa. This is 100% false and there's no "I guess you don't remembers" in my argument, I gave you a fucking link to polls. Actual metrics and numbers with dates attached to them trump your recollection of Will.I.Am videos.
sorry.. again you are wrong.. Obama had some soft support in the african american community... most people didn't even know who obama was pre Iowa... sure political junkies takled about his great speech and all that.. .. when he won Iowa it upset the applecart and created a shock through the system when it became apparent that Obama could win the election.. african americans coalesced around him at that point en masse.. before that point not really.. obama was not some sort of jesse jackson with long ties in the african american community.. in fact he was a guy that many african americans thought was "too white"....I worked for and with african americans at the time and none of them thought much of him before that point (Iowa)... .. in fact they liked Hillary.. as Sidehatch remarked Hillary had a lot of support among african americans with the whole bill clinton was a black president thing..when Obama won Iowa, the state that does not matter according to Smackie, they realized "hey wait a minute.. its a longshot but this could happen!"
the NOTION that barack obama enjoyed some kind of monolithic support among african americans that would have manifested itself in south carolina even if he had lost iowa and new hampshire is patently false as is the narrative being put out by smackie that iowa and new hampshire don't matter.. guys, join us back in the real world.
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Again, Hillary Clinton did not lead among black voters at the time of the Iowa caucus as you claim. This is irrefutable.
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Again, Hillary Clinton did not lead among black voters at the time of the Iowa caucus as you claim. This is irrefutable.
well maybe so.. who knows? just polls right..
the point is he did not have a hold of a monolithic black voting block merely because he was black.. the Clintons are very popular with african americans and many were voting for them
I love the way you nitpick a completely unimportant point just to argue..
My point was that Iowa - that winning Iowa- helped him consolidate the black vote around him.. prior to that it was not the case.
but of course you want to argue about some polls as evidence of what? a minor point of no consequence.. at the end of the day you would have to admit that Obama did not have a lock on SC prior to Iowa... go look up some polls of SC before Iowa or something...
argue argue argue...over nothing important
as far as the person that said that the election went on a long time.. believe me I know.. I was there at the meeting where the DNC decided how to apportion the MI and FL delegates at the end.. which sealed it for Obama.. my point wasn't that Iowa decided the election or even SC.. just that his win in Iowa set in motion a series of events that led to him being the nominee... therefore, I was arguing (for those not lost in Julian's polls) that Iowa had been very important for Obama.. this is a difference of opinion with Van Smack who seems to be arguing that Iowa and NH don't matter....didn't matter in the case of Obama apparently.. this is news to me.
Lastly, Julian made the point that Obama's speech after winning Iowa was not a big moment in US history... he/you can see it that way.. its a matter of opinion.. I think it was a big moment...some people agree..some don't...
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well maybe so.. who knows? just polls right..
polls are the only way we know a candidate's performance, appeal, etc. (both opinion polls and election polls, AKA election results).
if you are saying we can't trust polls when discussing a candidate, there is no point debating with you.
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well maybe so.. who knows? just polls right..
polls are the only way we know a candidate's performance, appeal, etc. (both opinion polls and election polls, AKA election results).
if you are saying we can't trust polls when discussing a candidate, there is no point debating with you.
polls do not support Julian's point but they do support mine
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/10/sc.obama.clinton/index.html?eref=rss_latest
key quote:
But the latest polls suggest support could be shifting. In July, 52 percent of black Democratic primary voters said they favored Clinton, compared to Obama's 33 percent. In December, Obama's support had risen to 45 percent while Clinton's dropped to 46.
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Obama did not have a lock on the black vote before Iowa.
but yeah, I don't come on this board to argue..sorry.. and yeah I don't think that much of polls...sorry.
and further, exactly what I wrote earlier which was dismissed as insane by Julian:
Obama supporter Damon Hardy said some blacks are still waffling because they are unsure of his long-term chances.
"It's like they want Obama to win, but they don't want their vote to be wasted on someone who they don't think is going to win. They don't really think Obama has a chance. So, they're voting Hillary Clinton because of her experience," he said.
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Its like you people don't remember eight years ago.. another thing that helped Obama lock the SC black vote and win in such resounding fashion were some of the things that Bill Clinton said that ticked blacks off in SC (including Clyburn)
But hey if you want to think "Obama is black .. of course all the black people were planning to vote for him all along" that is fine.. the facts do not support that...
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Hutch's campaign releases some touching family photos
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I have to say, Bernie was looking/sounding presidential last night
that smirk that Hil keeps giving is looking really snarky
I thought it was a little absurd how she keeps acting like I don't know why this PAC is spending millions to promote me
You're referring to a Super PAC that we don't coordinate with, that was set up to support President Obama, that has now decided that they want to support me?.. It's not my PAC,?
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I have to say, Bernie was looking/sounding presidential last night
that smirk that Hil keeps giving is looking really snarky
I thought it was a little absurd how she keeps acting like I don't know why this PAC is spending millions to promote me
You're referring to a Super PAC that we don't coordinate with, that was set up to support President Obama, that has now decided that they want to support me?.. It's not my PAC,?
she owned him... Hillary never loses a debate.. i can remember the Obama-Clinton debates.. He did not win one.
She is going to crush him.
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can't believe Gilmore is still running
in fact until CBS gave him the snub on the debate, I didn't even realize he was still in it to win it
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can't believe Gilmore is still running
in fact until CBS gave him the snub on the debate, I didn't even realize he was still in it to win it
well he is not in it to win it... it has been documented that he is not really running...he's pretending to run just to say he ran...pataki was doing the same thing...
and now he is not running (I presume that was what you meant to say?)
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Cruz loses the pornstar vote...
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sorry, one can't unsee this image...NSFL
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#totallylookslikemymom
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South Carolina was not feeling Trump...
http://ti.me/1QeJU2g
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(http://assets.amuniversal.com/aba18190a132013334e9005056a9545d)
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https://www.facebook.com/ModernRevolution/videos/1029449910446676/
The saddest moments of the Jeb Bush campaign
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anyone catch this hysterical Cruz ad
great spoof on the office space scene where they kill the printer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FECIYlo3KRY&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FECIYlo3KRY&feature=youtu.be)
I totally thought it was a fake, but it's legit
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found the perfect birthday gift (http://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/249715/hillary-by-jonah-winter-illustrated-by-raul-colon/9780553533880/)for your kids
Hillary By Jonah Winter
Illustrator Raul Colon
Category: Children?s Picture Books
(http://images.randomhouse.com/cover/9780553533880)
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Here's where I want to caucus
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poor Jeb...
https://www.facebook.com/superdeluxevideo/videos/222260281451863/
https://www.facebook.com/superdeluxevideo/videos/194114327599792/
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Bernie and Hill Dog agreeing on everything
https://www.facebook.com/superdeluxevideo/videos/221651561512735/
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So Hil's got the hookers...do we think that's enough to take Nevada?
they pull a lot of weight (and penises) in that state
it's neck and neck there
and does Carson come in third in SC??
I really can't believe bush is sticking this out, really just sad
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Here's where I want to caucus
You don't have the balls.
I really can't believe bush is sticking this out, really just sad
I think originally he thought "I can't leave before the Florida primary." But a poor showing in the first true primary may show him the door.
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game over Trump.. Pope says "Trump is not a Christian"
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game over Trump.. Pope says "Trump is not a Christian"
I'm not sure Trump was polling well with Catholics to begin with...
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game over Trump.. Pope says "Trump is not a Christian"
What a douche. Next thing you know he'll say is ISIS are not Muslims.
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Glenn Beck: God took Scalia to give America Ted Cruz as president
http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/17/politics/glenn-beck-god-killed-scalia-so-cruz-could-win/index.html
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I am just loving the fact that Rubio winning the til-now most important endorsement (from Gov Nikki Haley) is completely overshadowed by the pissing match between Trump and the Pope. I LOVITZ!
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I am just loving the fact that Rubio winning the til-now most important endorsement (from Gov Nikki Haley) is completely overshadowed by the pissing match between Trump and the Pope. I LOVITZ!
Sort of ironic that on the Republican side, the beloved Asian governor of a Southern state is endorsing a Hispanic guy (over a Black guy and another Hispanic guy)...whereas to Democrat race features two old white people.
Anyway, Trump and the pope should have a boxing match or something.
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There may be a wall surrounding the Vatican, but it didn't stop me from getting in.
Of course, I set my bag down and sat on the floor for a minute to catch a rest...and I was promptly told by security that I was loitering and had to leave...not the most friendly folks there in the old Vatican.
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Who tweeted it: Donald Trump or Kanye West?
Between the random Twitter rants and the not-so-subtle subtweets, the similarities between these two moguls are closer than you might think. Take our quiz and find out if you can tell the difference between Donald Trump and Kanye West on Twitter.
http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2016/02/politics/trump-kanye-who-tweeted/
i got 8/15 correct - essentially i did as good as guessing randomly, AKA there is no telling them apart.
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Have any of you taken this quiz?
http://www.isidewith.com/
For me, Hillary, Bernie, and Bloomburg all tied with 82%. Trump and Rubio tied as my top Republicans with 62%. And I was to the left my my centrist wife.
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OK boardies...time to get your predictions in for the Nevada and SC races on Saturday
I'm saying
NV
Sandman - 55
Hil - 45 (the hookers just couldn't bring in the vote sadly)
SC
Trump - 32
Rubio - 23
Cruz - 15
Kas - 10
Bush - 8
Carson - 8
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game over Trump.. Pope says "Trump is not a Christian"
What a douche. Next thing you know he'll say is ISIS are not Muslims.
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NV - Dems
Hillary 52.5
Sanders 47.5
SC - GOP
Trump 31
Rubio 21
Cruz 20
Bush 12
Kasich 9
Carson 7
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i got 8/15 correct - essentially i did as good as guessing randomly, AKA there is no telling them apart.
I got 12/15.
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Paging Relaxer...we would like your #'s posted and of course a colorful post-election write up
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I'm going to wait til later tonight...As usual it seems like a real crapshoot
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whoa...FoxNews poll....National
FOX News 2/15 - 2/17 Hiil=44% Sanders=47%
Sanders +3
First national poll where he leads
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whoa...FoxNews poll....National
FOX News 2/15 - 2/17 Hiil=44% Sanders=47%
Sanders +3
First national poll where he leads
yup democrats are going LOCO......I dont' get it
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i got 8/15 correct - essentially i did as good as guessing randomly, AKA there is no telling them apart.
I got 12/15.
Same here.
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whoa...FoxNews poll....National
FOX News 2/15 - 2/17 Hiil=44% Sanders=47%
Sanders +3
First national poll where he leads
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/national-primary-polls/democratic/
Again, statistical outlier, and a statistical outlier coming from an organization with a vested interest in putting out numbers that bloody Hillary via push polling.
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the big news of the day is Clyburn endorsed Hillary.. she is going to crush in SC.
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Have any of you taken this quiz?
http://www.isidewith.com/
For me, Hillary, Bernie, and Bloomburg all tied with 82%. Trump and Rubio tied as my top Republicans with 62%. And I was to the left my my centrist wife.
Hillary at the top at 92%, 88% for Bernie, 87% for Bloomburg. I have no clue what I'll do in this election.
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whoa...FoxNews poll....National
FOX News 2/15 - 2/17 Hiil=44% Sanders=47%
Sanders +3
First national poll where he leads
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/national-primary-polls/democratic/
Again, statistical outlier, and a statistical outlier coming from an organization with a vested interest in putting out numbers that bloody Hillary via push polling.
well I agree with you
but I think their polling isn't that inaccurate, Nate himself gave that poll a 1.47 weight...which is pretty significant
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whoa...FoxNews poll....National
FOX News 2/15 - 2/17 Hiil=44% Sanders=47%
Sanders +3
First national poll where he leads
yup democrats are going LOCO......I dont' get it
It's because, for once, Democrats can vote FOR someone instead of using their vote to vote AGAINST someone.
I'm voting for Sanders in the primary, and if he's the nominee then I will vote for him in November. But if Clinton is the nominee then I will be voting against the Republican.
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whoa...FoxNews poll....National
FOX News 2/15 - 2/17 Hiil=44% Sanders=47%
Sanders +3
First national poll where he leads
yup democrats are going LOCO......I dont' get it
It's because, for once, Democrats can vote FOR someone instead of using their vote to vote AGAINST someone.
I'm voting for Sanders in the primary, and if he's the nominee then I will vote for him in November. But if Clinton is the nominee then I will be voting against the Republican.
i get that.. my dad feels exactly like you do.... people are entitled to vote FOR whoever they want in a primary...I should respect that.
in any case we're happily voting FOR Hillary over here on March 1.. she is going to absolutely destroy Sanders in VA..
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D-NV
C 53
S 47
R-SC
T 35
C 24
R 19
B 11
K 7
Ca 4
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Is this, the most exciting election, in my life. I, think so.
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she is going to absolutely destroy Sanders in VA..
I believe that to be the truth, but as of now all cards are on the table
didn't even seem like that was possible in 2015
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so good
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Bush coming in at around 8%. Suspending campaign. Expect similar act from Carson too who appears to be coming in last.
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NV - Dems
Hillary 52.5
Sanders 47.5
SC - GOP
Trump 31
Rubio 21
Cruz 20
Bush 12
Kasich 9
Carson 7
;D
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I was waiting for you and sidehatch to concede before giving my victory speech.
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well I'm waiting on Sidehatch to deliver HIS concession speech.. but I would like to move on to the next states...
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Jeb brought his mom and it didn't help. I got nothing but a fist full of losers
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The story isn't Jeb's mom but W... he left his hiding place/hole in TX to help his brother get 7%... and Trump called him a liar who didn't keep the country safe in one of the more warmongery states in the union and won big..
I hate to pull a Gore here but I am rescinding any "concession" for NV until the votes are counted... we believe we will come out in front once the votes are counted...
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The story isn't Jeb's mom but W... he left his hiding place/hole in TX to help his brother get 7%... and Trump called him a liar who didn't keep the country safe in one of the more warmongery states in the union and won big..
I hate to pull a Gore here but I am rescinding any "concession" for NV until the votes are counted... we believe we will come out in front once the votes are counted...
Uh, even if the Nevada margin of victory turns out close to 6 than 5, you still got second place in SC incorrect. I think I've won this one.
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The story isn't Jeb's mom but W... he left his hiding place/hole in TX to help his brother get 7%... and Trump called him a liar who didn't keep the country safe in one of the more warmongery states in the union and won big..
I hate to pull a Gore here but I am rescinding any "concession" for NV until the votes are counted... we believe we will come out in front once the votes are counted...
Uh, even if the Nevada margin of victory turns out close to 6 than 5, you still got second place in SC incorrect. I think I've won this one.
I'm consulting my legal team ....
(obviously you are the winner... )
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normally, I don't laugh . . . but I did at this.
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You have a great sense of humor!
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Trump Rally needs to be a new genre of something
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So really missed Relaxer in this, but glad to see jules throw his hat in the predictions game
(do they make a Fantasy Primary game??)
SC GOP Results Jules
trump 32.5 31 -1.5
Rubio 22.5 21 -1.5
Cruz 22.3 20 -2.3
Bush 7.8 12 -4.2
Kasich 7.6 9 -1.4
Carson 7.2 7 -.2
-11.1
SC GOP Side
trump 32 -.5
rubio 23 -.5
Cruz 15 -7.3!
Bush 8 -.2
Kasich 10-2.4
Carson 8 -.8
-11.7
SC GOP Results Hutch
trump 32.5 35
Rubio 22.5 19
Cruz 22.3 24
Bush 7.8 11
Kasich 7.6 7
Carson 7.2 4
green closest to percentage
red - incorrect placement
Hutch's cruz was closest %, but was incorrect in place
So Jules got the placement 1-6 right
I'm not sure how you could weight this correctly as Jules only picked carson % wise
getting 1,2&3 place should have the most weight first
but I was super close with a .6 percent off (man I originally had cruz at 20!)
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Julian had the best pick in SC by far...picking Rubio to eke out Cruz was huge.....
in NV both Julian and I were arguably correct but he was more precise so he wins that too..
I have a lot of trouble with Cruz... he gives me nightmares... I consistently get him wrong and here I overcompensated.. before I was giving him not enough now too much..
Nevada (R) will be interesting because we really don't have very much polling to go on here..
I actually thought Julian's prediction was the best one I saw...I don't think any poll or pundit was as correct...I hate to say that but like ITS TRUE ITS TRUE YOU KNOW ITS TRUE
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for the dems...it was close and I'm not even going to post my pathetic predictions
NV Hutch jules
H 52.6 53 52.5
S 47.3 47 47.5
So jules takes it in a similar fashion to Denny Hamlin edging out Martin Truex Jr.
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I know, I'm disappointed that I couldn't get it together enough to make and post my predictions.
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for the dems...it was close and I'm not even going to post my pathetic predictions
NV Hutch jules
H 52.6 53 52.5
S 47.3 47 47.5
So jules takes it in a similar fashion to Denny Hamlin edging out Martin Truex Jr.
I think he takes it on a technicality as 53 is 52.6 rounded up and 47 is 47.3 rounded down.. those were my exact numbers by the way... of course..
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relaxer, get your shit together.. not just the numbers either..you got to bring the comedy gold!
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Don't worry relaxer...there are lots of contests coming up
I think we should put some money down for super Tuesday!
But seriously...is there a Fanduel for primaries
That'd be the kind of thing I could get in to
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https://www.facebook.com/NowThisElection/videos/1109836109047878/
^Awesome one minute video highlighting why Jeb had the funniest moments of the election, so far
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So if Trump wins in November, will Obama declare himself president for life?
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So if Trump wins in November, will Obama declare himself president for life?
don't really get the joke, but there is nothing in the constitution that Obama can't declare anything
well, maybe not FIRE during a SOTU
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I love that picture of Bernie. He looks like a dude who's checkin left, checkin right, and then quickly rubbing one out in this small window of opportunity.
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Are we all in agreement the GOP race is Rubio v Trump at this point? There's really no delegate math getting Cruz to 50% and he's so massively unliked by his colleagues he couldn't win in a contested convention. His biggest impact on the race is how long until he gets out of it: the longer he goes, the better for Trump; the sooner its a two-man race, the better for Rubio.
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I would agree that it will likely come down to Rubio and Trump. I know before Saturday, some people had Kasich possibly emerging as the voice of GOP reason, but his dismal showing this weekend is slotting him firmly in VP-at-best territory.
I'm noting a tone shift in the coverage on Trump. It seems like all articles are devoting a full paragraph or more on the fact that if any other GOP candidate was doing as well as Trump, that candidate would be called the 'prohibitive favorite' but because it's Trump, it feels weird to say that.
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I would agree that it will likely come down to Rubio and Trump. I know before Saturday, some people had Kasich possibly emerging as the voice of GOP reason, but his dismal showing this weekend is slotting him firmly in VP-at-best territory.
If he doesn't have a second place finish in NH to his name, he's out of this race officially by now, I'd imagine.
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I'm noting a tone shift in the coverage on Trump. It seems like all articles are devoting a full paragraph or more on the fact that if any other GOP candidate was doing as well as Trump, that candidate would be called the 'prohibitive favorite' but because it's Trump, it feels weird to say that.
I don't think he's the prohibitive favorite. I think it'll be Rubio. If Cruz stays in this the entire way, no one gets to the delegate count they need and it's probably Rubio at the convention because party insiders aren't going to sway voters to Trump/Cruz. If Cruz gets out fairly soon, I think it's Rubio because Trump vs. only-one-non-Trump-option doesn't favor Trump. Trump seems to have a ceiling.
I guess I'm interested in if anyone actually sees a hypothetical contested convention going to anyone but Rubio.
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Trump has said that if he's booted in a contested convention, he'd run as independent. Which works for me, since he'd split the republican vote, and either H or S would win. And the liberal supreme court. And the American people.
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And the American people.
nice and couldn't agree more...that's been my hope since Trump showed up day one
He certainty could pull a lot of people to vote for him as a 3rd party, but not enough to win
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And the American people.
nice and couldn't agree more...that's been my hope since Trump showed up day one
He certainty could pull a lot of people to vote for him as a 3rd party, but not enough to win
Hey, a wackadoo 3rd party candidate helped us get a Clinton in office the first time; why mess with success?
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And the American people.
nice and couldn't agree more...that's been my hope since Trump showed up day one
He certainty could pull a lot of people to vote for him as a 3rd party, but not enough to win
Hey, a wackadoo 3rd party candidate helped us get a Clinton in office the first time; why mess with success?
man an my inlaws wanted that wackadoo sooo bad as well as this current wackadoo
Must say Willy's lasting contribution to liberal ideology is waning over time
look at the impact of NAFTA, Welfare reform, lack of action on the drug war, 3 Strikes, freedom of marriage
as well as some of the seeds for the Mortgage crisis
I love slick willy, but he was a moderate who leaned a little further right than I would have preferred,
but ultimately he had to compromise to get stuff passed, just really didn't like some of the stuff that actually got passed
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He balanced the budget and presided over the longest period of economic prosperity in two generations.
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And the American people.
nice and couldn't agree more...that's been my hope since Trump showed up day one
He certainty could pull a lot of people to vote for him as a 3rd party, but not enough to win
Hey, a wackadoo 3rd party candidate helped us get a Clinton in office the first time; why mess with success?
man an my inlaws wanted that wackadoo sooo bad as well as this current wackadoo
Must say Willy's lasting contribution to liberal ideology is waning over time
look at the impact of NAFTA, Welfare reform, lack of action on the drug war, 3 Strikes, freedom of marriage
as well as some of the seeds for the Mortgage crisis
I love slick willy, but he was a moderate who leaned a little further right than I would have preferred,
but ultimately he had to compromise to get stuff passed, just really didn't like some of the stuff that actually got passed
this is some of the dumbest shit i have read.. incomes grew.. people were doing well... that is the most important thing... i guess you forgot how the late 90s were... it was a golden age.. I remember being at parties at Tim's and everyone was talking about how great things were going.. don't you remember? unemployment going down down down.. stock market going up up up?
of course bill wasn't a left wing liberal.. how could he be? don't you remember how he got creamed in 94 by gingrich??? he had to tack to the center. .that is what the American people wanted.. that is how he got reelected..that is how he worked with congress to balance the budget and get things done..he worked within the context of what was possible!
now all of a sudden in 2016 we are going to judge the 1990s as a failure?
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And the American people.
nice and couldn't agree more...that's been my hope since Trump showed up day one
He certainty could pull a lot of people to vote for him as a 3rd party, but not enough to win
Hey, a wackadoo 3rd party candidate helped us get a Clinton in office the first time; why mess with success?
man an my inlaws wanted that wackadoo sooo bad as well as this current wackadoo
Must say Willy's lasting contribution to liberal ideology is waning over time
look at the impact of NAFTA, Welfare reform, lack of action on the drug war, 3 Strikes, freedom of marriage
as well as some of the seeds for the Mortgage crisis
I love slick willy, but he was a moderate who leaned a little further right than I would have preferred,
but ultimately he had to compromise to get stuff passed, just really didn't like some of the stuff that actually got passed
this is some of the dumbest shit i have read.. incomes grew.. people were doing well... that is the most important thing... i guess you forgot how the late 90s were... it was a golden age.. I remember being at parties at Tim's and everyone was talking about how great things were going.. don't you remember? unemployment going down down down.. stock market going up up up?
of course bill wasn't a left wing liberal.. how could he be? don't you remember how he got creamed in 94 by gingrich??? he had to tack to the center. .that is what the American people wanted.. that is how he got reelected..that is how he worked with congress to balance the budget and get things done..he worked within the context of what was possible!
now all of a sudden in 2016 we are going to judge the 1990s as a failure?
Is everyone having problems reading, I never said there wasn't prosperity...can't really say he takes all the credit for that either...as jules said "he presided'
And yes us and all our white middle class friends did great in the 90's....so not a really good example
I said I like bill, but he was a contributor to things that today have really snowballed
even he admitted that he wished he didn't sign the 3 strikes
with 3 strikes, NAFTA and Welfare reform...do you think African American or poor minorities are better off
So we can't discuss these things?
These are important to me and I think their impact should be talked about
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And the American people.
nice and couldn't agree more...that's been my hope since Trump showed up day one
He certainty could pull a lot of people to vote for him as a 3rd party, but not enough to win
Hey, a wackadoo 3rd party candidate helped us get a Clinton in office the first time; why mess with success?
man an my inlaws wanted that wackadoo sooo bad as well as this current wackadoo
Must say Willy's lasting contribution to liberal ideology is waning over time
look at the impact of NAFTA, Welfare reform, lack of action on the drug war, 3 Strikes, freedom of marriage
as well as some of the seeds for the Mortgage crisis
I love slick willy, but he was a moderate who leaned a little further right than I would have preferred,
but ultimately he had to compromise to get stuff passed, just really didn't like some of the stuff that actually got passed
this is some of the dumbest shit i have read.. incomes grew.. people were doing well... that is the most important thing... i guess you forgot how the late 90s were... it was a golden age.. I remember being at parties at Tim's and everyone was talking about how great things were going.. don't you remember? unemployment going down down down.. stock market going up up up?
of course bill wasn't a left wing liberal.. how could he be? don't you remember how he got creamed in 94 by gingrich??? he had to tack to the center. .that is what the American people wanted.. that is how he got reelected..that is how he worked with congress to balance the budget and get things done..he worked within the context of what was possible!
now all of a sudden in 2016 we are going to judge the 1990s as a failure?
Is everyone having problems reading, I never said there wasn't prosperity...can't really say he takes all the credit for that either...as jules said "he presided'
And yes us and all our white middle class friends did great in the 90's....so not a really good example
I said I like bill, but he was a contributor to things that today have really snowballed
even he admitted that he wished he didn't sign the 3 strikes
with 3 strikes, NAFTA and Welfare reform...do you think African American or poor minorities are better off
So we can't discuss these things?
These are important to me and I think their impact should be talked about
your argument seems to be that prosperity only benefited white people? is that your position? low unemployment and increased incomes were limited to white people?
I support free trade...I supported NAFTA and still support free trade agreements.... I don't see a point to producing shirts in South Carolina when they can make them far cheaper in Bangladesh...of course it tends to create economic dislocation.... the answer is not to keep making expensive shirts in South Carolina though..
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Trump has said that if he's booted in a contested convention, he'd run as independent. Which works for me, since he'd split the republican vote, and either H or S would win. And the liberal supreme court. And the American people.
Some people forget that in order to win the Presidential election, one candidate has to get 270 votes in the Electoral College.
In absence of one candidate getting 270 Electoral College votes, the House of Representatives elects the next President of the United States.
If a third party candidate does moderately well enough to prohibit the largest vote getter from becoming President, is this the Congress you want electing the next President?
Believe me, Michael Bloomberg knows this all too well.
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debatable whether Trump could win a state.... likeliest scenario is he will be the Republican nominee .. barring that he will run as independent and make it harder on the republican than the democratic party candidate...in that scenario I think a democratic candidate would be assured of picking up states like Ohio and Florida with a plurality... Trump could get serious votes in FL and OH but more than the democratic party candidate? I don't see it.
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In absence of one candidate getting 270 Electoral College votes, the House of Representatives elects the next President of the United States.
If a third party candidate does moderately well enough to prohibit the largest vote getter from becoming President, is this the Congress you want electing the next President?
I think that is the scariest scenario I've ever heard
good flying spaghetti monster, please do not let that happen
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Great 2 min vid (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6W5e7AwqksU) by Robert Reich
4 Reasons Ted Cruz is Even More Dangerous than Donald Trump
good stuff
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Distraught At Cruz Campaign, Cruz Surrogate Steve Deace Threatens To "Eunuch" Himself (http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/02/23/distraught-at-cruz-campaign-cruz-surrogate-stev/208750)
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I have no idea.. don't even know how the caucus works...noticeable lack of polling on this one...
NV-R
Trump 43
Rubio 25
Cruz 22
Kasich 5
Carson 4
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NV-R
Trump 38
Cruz 28
Rubio 25
Kasich 3
Deez Nuts 2
Carson 1
Edit...just found out that Deez Nuts has endorsed Kasich
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Edit...just found out that Deez Nuts has endorsed Kasich
I thought Deace nuts endorsed Cruz. If Cruz loses, no more Deace nuts!
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Trump 37.4
Rubio 27.7
Cruz 21.7
Kasich 7.4
Carson 5.7
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NV-R
Trump 38
Cruz 28
Rubio 25
Kasich 3
Deez Nuts 2
Carson 1
Quoted for posterity before he attempts to change it when he realizes his numbers only add up to 97%.
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Trump 42
Rubio 26
Cruz 22
Kasich 7
Carson 5
Quoted for posterity before he attempts to change it when he realizes his numbers add up to 102%.
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Ironically, they could both still beat you.
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The SideHutch combo poll average which comes reasonably close to 100%:
Trump 40
Rubio 25.5
Cruz 25
Kasich 5
Carson 3
Deez Nuts 1
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Ironically, they could both still beat you.
Yes, they very well could. And there would be no shame in losing to the SideHutch Combo Poll Average. None at all.
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listen Julian, you got zero cred as its pretty plain you are just rehashing nate silver's polls plus numbers...
i may revisit my numbers as i'm disheartened by how close to yours and sidehatch they are....
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listen Julian, you got zero cred as its pretty plain you are just rehashing nate silver's polls plus numbers...
i may revisit my numbers as i'm disheartened by how close to yours and sidehatch they are....
Nate Silver is aggregating polls and weighting certain ones more. I doing the same with a different blend. If we come out close, it's because we are using the same (publicly available) data in. If you want to get into a statistical fight with "guesses" against people who are actually spending some time doing research and looking at numbers, that's not on me. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
EDIT: ftr, I credit Rasmussen much higher than 538.
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listen Julian, you got zero cred as its pretty plain you are just rehashing nate silver's polls plus numbers...
i may revisit my numbers as i'm disheartened by how close to yours and sidehatch they are....
Nate Silver is aggregating polls and weighting certain ones more. I doing the same with a different blend. If we come out close, it's because we are using the same (publicly available) data in. If you want to get into a statistical fight with "guesses" against people who are actually spending some time doing research and looking at numbers, that's not on me. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
EDIT: ftr, I credit Rasmussen much higher than 538.
well its awfully convenient that you're coming out with exact the same numbers.. same thing you did in SC...even Nevada you just copied his prediction to the decimal!
if your guesses are just going to be Nate Silver regurgitated then there isn't any point...anybody can do that..
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listen Julian, you got zero cred as its pretty plain you are just rehashing nate silver's polls plus numbers...
i may revisit my numbers as i'm disheartened by how close to yours and sidehatch they are....
Nate Silver is aggregating polls and weighting certain ones more. I doing the same with a different blend. If we come out close, it's because we are using the same (publicly available) data in. If you want to get into a statistical fight with "guesses" against people who are actually spending some time doing research and looking at numbers, that's not on me. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
EDIT: ftr, I credit Rasmussen much higher than 538.
well its awfully convenient that you're coming out with exact the same numbers.. same thing you did in SC...even Nevada you just copied his prediction to the decimal!
if your guesses are just going to be Nate Silver regurgitated then there isn't any point...anybody can do that..
I mean, he's average polls with some weight. An averaging of polls with no weighting is like 98% similar to Silver. Am I just not supposed to look at polls at all? Seriously asking. Are we just supposed to guess? Is reading coverage poisoning the well?
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I'm picking the Chargers to go all the way.
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Let me explain my process. I take the 538 and realpol polls lists. Find the mean. Average that with the Rasmussen poll. Then I make micro-adjustments based on my own reading of the race. (For example if 2 people are within a percentage but I feel the order is wrong like in SC, I'll re order. Or if someone is several points off ill arbitrarily soften the difference and attach the extra percentage to the top candidates - why my % were so far off on bottom three in SC). Then I make sure my numbers add up to 100% and arbitrarily add the tenths of percentages needed to make it do so. It's not scientific but it has the veneer thereof. In other words, it's somewhat proprietary to me.
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come on relaxer, your going to sit this one out again!
Hope she went down on you!
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Well done, Hutch. Other than the bottom two (which we all got wrong), you were pretty spot on.
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In other words, it's somewhat proprietary to me.
Until now. Mwahahaha. Mwahahaha! MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA!
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In other words, it's somewhat proprietary to me.
Until now. Mwahahaha. Mwahahaha! MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA!
I'M RUINED!!!
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well I agree with using polls to a point but when there are so few as seemed to be the case in Nevada.. and they seemed a bit old.. and it was a caucus situation... I thought gut/common sense had a bigger part to play
its so much fun to see Trump come in and destroy the Republican Party as previously constituted...
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well I agree with using polls to a point but when there are so few as seemed to be the case in Nevada.. and they seemed a bit old.. and it was a caucus situation... I thought gut/common sense had a bigger part to play
A caucus (with more than 2 candidates) is notoriously difficult to poll for.
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come on relaxer, your going to sit this one out again!
Hope she went down on you!
Sorry guys, I joined Tinder the other day and my plate is just full. It is crazy being single again in the age of the internet.
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come on relaxer, your going to sit this one out again!
Hope she went down on you!
Sorry guys, I joined Tinder the other day and my plate is just full. It is crazy being single again in the age of the internet.
I used to find Tinder so weird as a concept, then one day I really thought about it and realized women can be terrible to me without me even having to speak to them. What a time to be alive!
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I like it because instead of blowing all my comedy gold at this sausage factory, I can lay down smooth quips to the ladies and they invite me out for drinks and shenanigans.
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blowing ... my ... sausage ... lay ... smooth ... shenanigans.
WILL YOU AND WALKIE JUST KISS ALREADY?
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I like it because instead of blowing all my comedy gold at this sausage factory, I can lay down smooth quips to the ladies and they invite me out for drinks and shenanigans.
save a little for us...bordies before ho-ies
if anything, a running thread with your comic failures and great comebacks would be legendary
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ok...I concede defeat here
but I did get the closest on Kasich!
also what is up with these 338 Nevadans?
R. Paul 0.2% 170
J. Bush 0.1% 64
C. Christie 0.1% 50
C. Fiorina 0.0% 22
M. Huckabee0.0% 21
R. Santorum0.0% 11
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but I did get the closest on Kasich!
You were also the furthest off on Deez Nuts.
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but I did get the closest on Kasich!
You were also the furthest off on Deez Nuts.
that's what happens when you are a MAVERICK !
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All aboard the Maverick train!
(http://freedomoutpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/john-mccain1.jpg)
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ok...don't know if this is a real photo...but WTF!
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more info (http://www.thewrap.com/trump-supporters-wear-ku-klux-klan-robes-at-nevada-caucus/)
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so ... there is this (http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-gop-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/02/donald-trump-sabermetrics-bill-james-219731?cmpid=sf)
"I don?t think that Trump can win, frankly, because I don?t think there are enough morons to elect him. A certain percentage of the American public is just morons; that?s the way it is," James wrote in one section. "When you divide the public in two then divide the voters in one of those halves among five candidates or more, a candidate can win by dominating the moron vote because it only takes about one-seventh of the total population to take the 'lead' under those circumstances."
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I mean, that's exactly what's happening. If the three candidates who do not have any mathematical path to the nomination (Cruz, Kasich, Carson) dropped out, Rubio would start winning the majority of states.
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I mean, that's exactly what's happening. If the three candidates who do not have any mathematical path to the nomination (Cruz, Kasich, Carson) dropped out, Rubio would start winning the majority of states.
Are you suggesting that all of Cruz, Kasich and Carson's supporter would magically support Rubio and not Trump?
I think Trump is more moderate than Rubio or Cruz, between those three I'd take Trump in a heartbeat.
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Are you suggesting that all of Cruz, Kasich and Carson's supporter would magically support Rubio and not Trump?
I think Trump is more moderate than Rubio or Cruz, between those three I'd take Trump in a heartbeat.
Every single one? No. But the virtually all of Kasich's, yes. I think Rubio gets the majority of the former Cruz/Carson supporters because, as you said, he's more conservative than Trump.
Trump would love nothing more than for Cruz to remain in the race the entire rest of the way. Rubio would like nothing more than Cruz folding up tent immediately.
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David Duke: Voting against Trump is 'treason to your heritage'
The white nationalist and former KKK grand wizard encouraged his listeners to volunteer for Trump.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/david-duke-trump-219777
?He?s made it OK to talk about these incredible concerns of European Americans today, because I think European Americans know they are the only group that can?t defend their own essential interests and their point of view,? Duke said. ?He?s meant a lot for the human rights of European Americans.?
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ha...the human rights of European Americans.
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also what is up with these 338 Nevadans?
R. Paul 0.2% 170
J. Bush 0.1% 64
C. Christie 0.1% 50
C. Fiorina 0.0% 22
M. Huckabee0.0% 21
R. Santorum0.0% 11
the zombie effect (http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/the-year-of-the-living-dead-the-effect-of-suspended-candidacies/ar-BBpZX9U?ocid=spartanntp)
This may turn out to be the year of the living dead.
That?s because there are 12 so-called "zombie" candidates who have suspended their campaigns for president, 11 of whom remain on state ballots throughout the country. If these halted campaigns pick up some delegates in proportional states along the way, they could come to life once again at the GOP convention in July.
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(http://cdn.static-economist.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/print-cover-full/print-covers/20160227_cna400.jpg)
Time to Fire Him (http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21693579-donald-trump-unfit-lead-great-political-party-time-fire-him)
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The establishment and media is missing the point....
Its great to see the gang up.... Pardon me if the Washington Post Editorial Board doesn't have much sway with me .. I remember their salivating about going into Iraq...
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these newspapers and pundits permanently articulating the conventional idiocy are very annoying..
I would take Trump over any candidate left in the Republican field other than Kasich...... I mean Cruz? Talk about a maniac! He's going to carpet bomb Syria but specific targets? We know Cruz is a maniac.. Trump actually has friends..Or Rubio who KNOWS NOTHING about the world and will be another W as he signs on for the next useless war surrounded by the same neocons that helped show W the way...Really?
The problem for the Republicans is that if Trump wins it will kind of be like when Andrew Jackson.. a whole new different game and players will be in power in DC... the usual "conservatives" who have done a heck of a job over the past decades mucking things up will be out of power.. so its in their interest to paint this Trump doomsday scenario...
I mean lets see some of Trump's actual positions:
1. Trade: essentially try to get a better deal with China.. doesn't seem so crazy to me... we know for too long many nasty things about the Chinese.. of course we need them but they need us too... they want to act tough, expand in the South China seas, etc.. lets see how they like it when we don't just put the interests of the Business Roudntrable or Chamber of Commerce over the interests of the American people.. again I am for free trade but not at any cost.. if China wasn't able to sell us their trinkets I don't think their government would survive to be honest.
2. Syria: Let Russia take care of it.. Sounds good to me! Rubio and Cruz can't wait to get into a war with everyone...Continue with realignment with Iran.. again sounds good to me..
3. Health care: he is for universal health care more so than any Republican.. sounds good to me.. The other Republicans say they will abolish Obamacare and WHAT?
4. Abortion/Gays: we know very well that regardless of what he says to win votes- and yes it is an election and there is a certain level of demagogy- that he couldn't care less about these issues and views them as unimportant..
5. Mexico: build a wall.. now I am not pro-wall but what is the real problem? Israel built a wall and the other candidates and our nation as a whole can't wait to stay in bed with Israel.. there are no issues with them building a wall but if the US builds a wall its terrible? And when he says "Mexico will pay for it" at the end of the day if the US wants them to pay they will.. it will come out of their trade with us..
The essence of it comes down to form/style.. people just object to the way he articulates and expresses himself... its much nicer for some I guess to listen to Rubio's endless "we are the greatest country in the world.. i fucked Reagan when I was a teenager.. we must leave a better country" platitudes ad nauseum...
But on issues? Trump is the best "Republican" to have come along in decades.. the man actually told people what we all know: BUSH LIED.. BUSH did not keep us safe..
I find it refreshing... It seems many others do too
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In a way as a democrat for me Trump is the dream candidate... he is obviously more a democrat than republican... he's using the republican party to further his own interests - whether HE believes that includes the interests of the country only he knows- and he is trying (and so far so good..) to blow up the republican party. I love it.. focusing on stupidities like "OMG He said 'I love poorly educated people'" is for the sheeple......He is a politician...
the only caveat is he could beat Hillary...but even if he did that just the fact he blows up the Republican Party might be worth it...
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I would take Trump over any candidate left in the Republican field other than Kasich......
couldn't agree more, even if by some crazy turn of events he does get the nom and wins the general
he would by far be the best of those other two whack-jobs
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did you hear rubio "He never funded me"
it gets really good around 1.45 (http://gawker.com/watch-three-candidates-for-president-get-into-a-slap-fi-1761419261) (yes I get all my political news from gwaker now that stewart is gone, NOT)
this is a lot of fun up here
I want to know who says "people are actually watching this at home"
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Chris Christie offered a surprise endorsement to Donald Trump on Friday, saying there is no one better prepared to lead the country or defeat former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton should she become the Democratic nominee.
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/ :P
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Chris Christie offered a surprise endorsement to Donald Trump on Friday, saying there is no one better prepared to lead the country or defeat former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton should she become the Democratic nominee.
I don't know that it is a surprise... when Christie went after Rubio I thought he was doing Trump's dirty work...it just looked that way to me.. also not surprising Christie would support Trump.. what were his options? He couldn't endorse Rubio or Cruz.. so it was Trump or nothing..since Trump is ahead why not? And you may never know.. VP? Attorney General in a Trump Admin..
I never got the huge love for Christie a few years ago but I respect him for putting the final nail in Romney's coffin..
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And you may never know.. VP? Attorney General in a Trump Admin..
Secretary of Transportation
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And you may never know.. VP? Attorney General in a Trump Admin..
Secretary of Transportation
Secretary of Double Cheeseburgers
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And you may never know.. VP? Attorney General in a Trump Admin..
Secretary of Transportation
took me a minute but i got it!!!!!!!
;D
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latest SC poll has Hillary up FIFTY!
its by Clemson University and has her leading 64-14... very strange result.. I guess they didn't push leaners?
I think she's going to win by like 30 points...
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And you may never know.. VP? Attorney General in a Trump Admin..
Secretary of Transportation
Secretary of Double Cheeseburgers
I was going to joke Health and Human Services but you beat me to it.
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?Like Trump, Chris Christie is a pathetic, corrupt man with a tiny ego,? former Jeb Bush communications director Tim Miller tweeted. ?I'm sure they bonded discussing their insecurities over a big meal.?
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interesting.. in VA one can't vote in both primaries but can choose whichever one... the loyalty statement by the Republicans has been scrapped
http://wtop.com/virginia/2016/02/want-to-vote-in-key-va-presidential-primary-deadline-nears/
I wonder how many D voters will vote in the R primary to create a little trouble?
;D
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which candidate would one vote for to cause trouble?
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Holy Moses those SC results. A full 50 point margin is in play. Every day Bernie Sanders continues to remain in this race after Super Tuesday is a testimony to what a selfish piece of shit he is because he has zero chance of winning and he's only hurting the Democratic Party by "bloody-ing up" Hillary thru his pathetic vanity campaign.
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Bernie is an egomaniac who will rip America to shreds for his own glory. Any human being with a conscience should be demanding his immediate concession from the race and an apology to America.
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unfortunately the damage has been done...
CNN just cut to commercials in the middle of Bernie's speech.. you know they think its over...
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https://www.facebook.com/TedCruzIsTheZodiacKiller/
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https://www.facebook.com/578168548998906/videos/589637544518673/
^ awesome Ted video
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so parties should just pick one person and we just go with it
I think you both are asswipes on this topic
The process is working how it should, I'd hardly say that sanders has run a negative campaign against Hil
Maybe I missed it (god knows I've been wrong before)
You can have your opinion on his platforms merits
but neither of you have just made that argument
I really don't understand why that running is shelfish, he has made quite a groundswell and I think the party should take him seriously as like it or not...there are a lot of people who liked what he said
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I didn't put down Sanders myself..
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not sure
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I don't know
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Rep. Tulsi Gabbard Resigns From DNC Post, Endorses Bernie Sanders (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/tulsi-gabbard-bernie-sanders_us_56d30d82e4b0871f60ebbcc8)
Because the DNC has not been running a fair campaign for all candidates. They had clearly locked their support behind Clinton months ago and they will not allow any dissent from their members.
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I think there have been more than enough debates.. how many more debates and townhalls can we have? Isn't there another one coming up later this week? I actually think, if anything, we should have LESS debates... its silly to have a debate every week..
The general election will have three debates.. and it is of far more consequence.. yet some people seem to feel the primaries should have 20?? That is silly...
Moreover, the idea that Sanders can't get himself known with all the media attention (he's been on TV like all the time!), the ads he's been running (IN NH he vastly outspent her), etc seems silly to me
just silly .. all very silly...silly season..
Sanders problem isn't "bias" on the part of the DNC.. its that his message just isn't that popular outside of NH.
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http://www.nbcnews.com/video/supporter-to-trump-im-a-muslim-and-im-for-you-all-the-way-626477635550
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Rep. Tulsi Gabbard Resigns From DNC Post, Endorses Bernie Sanders (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/tulsi-gabbard-bernie-sanders_us_56d30d82e4b0871f60ebbcc8)
Because the DNC has not been running a fair campaign for all candidates. They had clearly locked their support behind Clinton months ago and they will not allow any dissent from their members.
the issue of the superdelegates in particular.. its like people don't inform themselves before regurtitating Fox News talking points.. if you want to see a conspiracy you will
superdelegates can change their mind.. if Sanders wins some states you'd see some superdelegates switch to uncommited and eventually if he kept winning they would support him.. nobody is going to win the nomination without a majority of the elected delegates.. yet the way they report it it sounds like Hillary is up 600 superdelegates and don't explain what that means.. the superdelegates aren't binding.. their vote would only matter in a convention that was deadlocked....and by then who knows what the superdelegates will do? does anybody think for example, if Hillary lost the next 48 primaries/caucuses that she woud retain the support of the "superdelegates" of course not.....
do people in the democratic party suppor the Clintons? Of course! That is because the Clintons rocked it in the 90s and Hillary has done great since then, barely lost the nod last time and then her and Bill worked hard to get Obama elected and reelected... that HAS to count for something, no?
a lot of this anti-hillary stuff that is being spread around is just plain false or shows a lack of understanding of how things work..
the fact is Sanders lost South Carolina, Nevada and Iowa and only won NH which borders his home state... if you are a democrat you know full well that without the black vote no democrat will be elected so you should be worried about the fact that Sanders got less than 10% of the black vote in SC... now if you want to talk about conspiracies and superdelegates and ignore the voice of , you know, the actual voters well be my guest but it just seems really stupid..
I'm done talking about this issue of Hillary-Sanders. I like Bernie but I'm supporting Hillary and its not because I'm not a real democrat or there is some conspiracy... I just like her better for many many reasons... the way Sanders supporters treat Hillary and her supporters is really insulting but its not going to stop me from liking Bernie..He's a good man.. His supporters unfortunately are seriously deluded.
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ok enough arguing. lets get back to the fun.... so how do we do Super Tuesday predictions? Do we just pick who wins each state on both sides? DO we do 1 2 3 in each state? Do we pick the number of delegates each candiddate wins (this seems hard as different states apportion them in different way..)
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I posted this on FB but for the benefit of those who don't have me on their feed: two clean-shaven guys knocked on my door yesterday and started in about how they wanted to talk to me about "the future" and a man who can change everything and I cut them off and thanked them for coming but assured them I was familiar with the Book of Mormon and was not interested. I was met with agape jaws and, after a few seconds of silence, was informed they were with the Bernie Sanders campaign. Whoops.
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ok enough arguing. lets get back to the fun.... so how do we do Super Tuesday predictions? Do we just pick who wins each state on both sides? DO we do 1 2 3 in each state? Do we pick the number of delegates each candiddate wins (this seems hard as different states apportion them in different way..)
Dem side: Hillary wins all of them except Vermont. Oklahoma is the closest at 52-48. GOP picks at lunch.
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I posted this on FB but for the benefit of those who don't have me on their feed: two clean-shaven guys knocked on my door yesterday and started in about how they wanted to talk to me about "the future" and a man who can change everything and I cut them off and thanked them for coming but assured them I was familiar with the Book of Mormon and was not interested. I was met with agape jaws and, after a few seconds of silence, was informed they were with the Bernie Sanders campaign. Whoops.
Good on them for knowing their audience enough to shave (and bathe) for likely the first time in months before presenting themselves to you.
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I posted this on FB but for the benefit of those who don't have me on their feed: two clean-shaven guys knocked on my door yesterday and started in about how they wanted to talk to me about "the future" and a man who can change everything and I cut them off and thanked them for coming but assured them I was familiar with the Book of Mormon and was not interested. I was met with agape jaws and, after a few seconds of silence, was informed they were with the Bernie Sanders campaign. Whoops.
Good on them for knowing their audience enough to shave (and bathe) for likely the first time in months before presenting themselves to you.
Other then no name tags, they really did look like LDS missionaries. I wasn't trying to funny, I really thought they were.
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I posted this on FB but for the benefit of those who don't have me on their feed: two clean-shaven guys knocked on my door yesterday and started in about how they wanted to talk to me about "the future" and a man who can change everything and I cut them off and thanked them for coming but assured them I was familiar with the Book of Mormon and was not interested. I was met with agape jaws and, after a few seconds of silence, was informed they were with the Bernie Sanders campaign. Whoops.
Good on them for knowing their audience enough to shave (and bathe) for likely the first time in months before presenting themselves to you.
Other then no name tags, they really did look like LDS missionaries. I wasn't trying to funny, I really thought they were.
Were they wearing white button downs w/short selves and a black tie (possibly a bike helmet too)
but that was pretty funny
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I got some real weird robo poll which must have been a Rubio poll... the robot wanted to know how much impact a Bush, Romney and someone else- can't remember- endorsement would have.. they really wanted to know if Trump dropped out who I would vote for.. it kept asking me if I would vote for Cruz or Rubio- went into a loop and kept asking same question- but I froze and couldn't push a button as I wouldn't vote for either ever no matter what...I didn't know what to do or where to appeal for help...finally the robot gave up and hung up on me...I was kind of insulted..
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I got some real weird robo poll which must have been a Rubio poll... the robot wanted to know how much impact a Bush, Romney and someone else- can't remember- endorsement would have.. they really wanted to know if Trump dropped out who I would vote for.. it kept asking me if I would vote for Cruz or Rubio- went into a loop and kept asking same question- but I froze and couldn't push a button as I wouldn't vote for either ever no matter what...I didn't know what to do or where to appeal for help...finally the robot gave up and hung up on me...I was kind of insulted..
Was the robot wearing white button downs w/short selves and a black tie (possibly a bike helmet too)?
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I got some real weird robo poll which must have been a Rubio poll... the robot wanted to know how much impact a Bush, Romney and someone else- can't remember- endorsement would have.. they really wanted to know if Trump dropped out who I would vote for.. it kept asking me if I would vote for Cruz or Rubio- went into a loop and kept asking same question- but I froze and couldn't push a button as I wouldn't vote for either ever no matter what...I didn't know what to do or where to appeal for help...finally the robot gave up and hung up on me...I was kind of insulted..
Was the robot wearing white button downs w/short selves and a black tie (possibly a bike helmet too)?
Early contender for POTW right there.
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yeah . . . but, short selves?
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john oliver's bit from last night is comedy gold: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnpO_RTSNmQ
the ending is epic.
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this is great
The 199 People, Places and Things Donald
Trump Has Insulted on Twitter: A Complete List (http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/01/28/upshot/donald-trump-twitter-insults.html?_r=0#rockin-in-the-free-world)
The sad commentary here is the people who support him think this is what makes trump awesome
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added the drumpf chrome extension....
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So can we come up with a standard format for bets
Top three each state
I almost think we should probably just skip the democrats too
no way am I doing delegate counts
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So can we come up with a standard format for bets
Top three each state
I almost think we should probably just skip the democrats too
no way am I doing delegate counts
just follow Julian's lead.. call each state and give us one kernel...
I'm not too motivated right now..
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my heart's not in it...no predictions
hil is going to crush VA
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Trump's campaign keeps giving the word shitshow new meanings..... he is getting so much bad press these past few days......it will be interesting to see how and if he holds up tomorrow.... I've never seen anything like it.. every hour is something new...
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bad news won't stop him...crushing it in the early results
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rubio is not going to put a single win on the board...NOVA republicans have forsaken la cucaracha
going to be some strange times at the RNC...that would be a fun convention to be at
How do we get jules in there?
I bet it's going to get bloody
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Yes! I am still willing to do a Juggalo gathering plus RNC weekend! Both are in Ohio! Make this happen and I promise you it will be fucking gold!
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Ted Cruz makes me want to break stuff...
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While John Oliver's take down of Drumpf (no extension required) is getting all the attention, Samantha Bee's take down of Kasich the week earlier was equally masterful. She also shown the spotlight on how liberals failed to turn in the midterms and the results of that. Next week I'm expecting to be screaming at the TV over what's been happening at the state level of late..
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Ted Cruz makes me want to break stuff...
I suspect though that Drumpf is getting most of the Limp Bizkit vote.
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Comical... the Republicans were all "TRUMP MUST SIGN THE LOYALTY PLEDGE TO REMAIN IN THE GOP!!!!!!!" and now they're openly trying to destroy him and saying they will not support him...
good shit..
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It's what happens when you get billionaires super pacs panties in a bunch..
And would we even have Cruz if it weren't for Citizens United. Isn't he basically the Koch Brothers pet?
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I don't usually get political insights from Deadspin (http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/republican-voters-vote-for-a-very-republican-republican-1762394539#_ga=1.34774497.1747680276.1406310731) but this was a really good paragraph:
It?s funny how this shit goes. The end is nigh, we?re told, because Republican voters selected, have selected, are selecting a presidential candidate who embodies literally every animating force in American conservatism?every Great Man myth it has spun around some rich, domineering bully; every mean bigotry and resentment to which it has pandered; every hard-on it has sprung for big-talking political outsiders; all its professed contempt for ?political correctness?; its core insistence that the unfettered self-interest of the white male is the light of the world; its opportunistic embrace and exaltation of ignorance and stupidity and hate?but spurns the thin, patronizing sobriety of its traditional and fraudulent packaging. The voters have chosen exactly what each slickly packaged general-election Republican candidate has winked and dog-whistled and hinted he secretly was in my whole entire goddamn lifetime. They?ve chosen what apparatchiks like William Kristol have spent the past 25 years pretending Ronald Reagan wasn?t.
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http://trumpdonald.org/
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Carson out by the end of the day.
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Donald Trump will be a fabulous president. He is really in touch with the youth of America. After all, he did go to the American Idiot premiere.
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Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.
~ Napoléon Bonaparte
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Carson out by the end of the day.
well looking like Friday
Mr. Carson stopped short of suspending his campaign and said he would provide more details in a speech on Friday,
but good scoop nonetheless
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Carson out by the end of the day.
well looking like Friday
Mr. Carson stopped short of suspending his campaign and said he would provide more details in a speech on Friday,
but good scoop nonetheless
gives him a few days to shop around his endorsement and see if there are any good offers out there...
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gives him a few days to shop around his endorsement and see if there are any good offers out there...
No. It gives him time to empty his donation coffers to his pals...
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gives him a few days to shop around his endorsement and see if there are any good offers out there...
No. It gives him time to empty his donation coffers to his pals...
that too...
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this election, summarized in one image:
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There's a typo on that. Under Pros for Hillary it doesn't say "Is the most qualified candidate in the history of American politics" and "An ability to get her agenda passed." And for some reason under Cons, it lists "Hillary." Very shoddy meme-making.
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you should like this one sweets
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There's a typo on that. Under Pros for Hillary it doesn't say "Is the most qualified candidate in the history of American politics" and "An ability to get her agenda passed." And for some reason under Cons, it lists "Hillary." Very shoddy meme-making.
so when slobbering over Hillary's phallus, do you pay attention to the balls?
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as strong as Hillary did in the primary, and as strong as trump did in the primary, I feel a battle with them vs each other for the prize, will be good. I cant tell who will win, at this point. the hate for the other, is strong from both fronts.
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as strong as Hillary did in the primary, and as strong as trump did in the primary, I feel a battle with them vs each other for the prize, will be good. I cant tell who will win, at this point. the hate for the other, is strong from both fronts.
Trump has a double-digit negative favorability rating with Independents and a strong chance that the GOP would mount a conservative third party candidate against him. I think Hillary clears 400 electoral votes.
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do you think if the republicans gave in and let trump battle hillster, trump would win? or is wise that the pubs shoot for someone else?
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man I would have a tough time in this primary
in this one I'd go for Clinton
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do you think if the republicans gave in and let trump battle hillster, trump would win? or is wise that the pubs shoot for someone else?
No, I think he would lose either way. These sort of favorability ratings (http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/donald-trump-favorable-rating) are virtually impossible to overcome in the General Election. You cannot lose Democrats by 75% and Independents by 20% (and stoke high turn out among Latinos and African-Americans with his jingoistic, racist rhetoric) and hope to win. There simply aren't enough Republicans out there.
If a more traditional GOP candidate goes third-party, that's when we get into historical electoral numbers for Hillary.
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so I had a disagreement with someone in my office regarding people's dislike of Hillary. I think it's because she's a Clit on, and he thinks it's because she's a woman.
What's the general population's view on this?
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so I had a disagreement with someone in my office regarding people's dislike of Hillary. I think it's because she's a Clit on, and he thinks it's because she's a woman.
What's the general population's view on this?
Well if you are a registered republican...that's pretty much the argument
not on actual experience or platforms, the mantra is 'we will and always will hate Hillary"
never really a discussion of why
Which is why it is so nice that it's pretty much a lock she'll be the next one at 1600 Penn
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so I had a disagreement with someone in my office regarding people's dislike of Hillary. I think it's because she's a Clit on, and he thinks it's because she's a woman.
What's the general population's view on this?
i believe that the general population's view is that hillary is just another establishment politician with a mixed to positive record. some of these people like her, some dislike her. if you believe the polls, more people like her than don't.
those who hate hate hate hillary are the right-wingnuts and they'll pick any one of 10 reasons to hate her. she's a woman, she's a clinton, she's a liberal... the actual reason doesn't matter. hate for her is right up there with obama: these two could cure cancer and create a 20 million high-paying jobs and this bunch of mouth-breathers will still hate them. the problem is that this bunch is disproportionately vocal and, more often than not, in positions of authority within the GOP.
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My wife hates Hillary (and supports Bernie) because she says Hillary is a liar and a phony.
My mom hates Hillary (and supports Cruz) because she says Hillary is a liar and a phony.
It's always great when your spouse and their mother-in-law see eye to eye on something.
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man I would have a tough time in this primary
in this one I'd go for Clinton
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I preferred that joke when it was done with George Clinton and COLONEL Sanders, because I have no idea who the second guy pictured is.
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Trump has a double-digit negative favorability rating with Independents and a strong chance that the GOP would mount a conservative third party candidate against him. I think Hillary clears 400 electoral votes.
This is pretty close. I think we're looking at Bush v Dukakis numbers, but not quite Reagan v Mondale. I don't rule out Trump doing something completely insane and making this Mondalesque however....
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I preferred that joke when it was done with George Clinton and COLONEL Sanders, because I have no idea who the second guy pictured is.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharoah_Sanders
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My wife hates Hillary (and supports Bernie) because she says Hillary is a liar and a phony.
My mom hates Hillary (and supports Cruz) because she says Hillary is a liar and a phony.
What states do they live in? Because that's all that matters...
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how people feel today could well change in a few months...
for example those hypothetical matchup numbes are worthless..
I think if the economy keeps growing and adding jobs and we don't suffer any more terrorist attacks, come the fall, its going to be hard to see people voting Republican for the presidency..... Lets think..what if the economy adds 200,000 jobs on average for the next 8 months.. on top of the jobs already added..
I differ from the concensus in that I think Trump could be a far bigger threat to Hillary than Cruz or Rubio... I could see him doing well in MI, OH, PA.. certainly taking NH.. he makes the map bigger for the Repubicans.. otherwise they are stuck with the same crummy game of absolutely having to win OH etc...
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What states do you see him adding to in play for the GOP? NH is always a swing state as-is.
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PA, MI.. .. he would make it really hard on the democrats to take OH or FL....
Lets think about that: how does Hillary get elected without OH and FL?
I'd have to do some legwork on NY... I'm skeptical about Trump's chances there..
this is all assuming the current GOP game of comparing him to the antichrist ends fairly soon.. it will take a toll..it is taking a toll.. obviously if your own party is saying you are the antichrist/Hitler its going to be hard to win anything.....
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PA, MI.. .. he would make it really hard on the democrats to take OH or FL....
I don't think MI is in play, personally.
I would argue PA, OH, and FL are all "in-play" in any election. I mean, those are the general big swing states that decide every election of my lifetime.
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PA, MI.. .. he would make it really hard on the democrats to take OH or FL....
I don't think MI is in play, personally.
I would argue PA, OH, and FL are all "in-play" in any election. I mean, those are the general big swing states that decide every election of my lifetime.
OH and FL are in play always. not PA or MI
I think they would be in play with Trump.. its all personal opinion at this point...
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Lets think about that: how does Hillary get elected without OH and FL?
Big Ten country (minus IN and OH) + Virginia + Nevada, hypothetically.
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OH and FL are in play always. not PA or MI
I think they would be in play with Trump.. its all personal opinion at this point...
I was mistakenly remembering PA as voting for Bush 2 at least one time, but after further review, you are correct, they have not voted for a GOP candidate since 88. So hypothetically, yes, if Trump makes MI and PA legitimately "in play", that would be changing the map.
That said (and back to your point that its just personal opinion/conjecture at this point), I really do not see him making a serious run at those states.
And again, the thing people really aren't talking about enough is the very real prospect that if Trump does get through the convention with the nomination that a GOP-establishment candidate files as a third-party candidate. A third party candidate taking even 5% nationally obliterates Trump's chance of winning any swing state.
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keepin it classy in Texas
Robert Morrow the elected chair of the Republican Party in Travis County, Texas
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couldn't find the image of the one where he calls Clinton an Angry Bull Dyke
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with male pattern baldness, that he is so trying to hide . . . id be that mad, too.
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with male pattern baldness, that he is so trying to hide . . . id be that mad, too.
I was tempted to make a comment about that, thank you for saying what I was thinking
got to be closeted with his homosexualized commentary
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OH and FL are in play always. not PA or MI
I think they would be in play with Trump.. its all personal opinion at this point...
I was mistakenly remembering PA as voting for Bush 2 at least one time, but after further review, you are correct, they have not voted for a GOP candidate since 88. So hypothetically, yes, if Trump makes MI and PA legitimately "in play", that would be changing the map.
That said (and back to your point that its just personal opinion/conjecture at this point), I really do not see him making a serious run at those states.
And again, the thing people really aren't talking about enough is the very real prospect that if Trump does get through the convention with the nomination that a GOP-establishment candidate files as a third-party candidate. A third party candidate taking even 5% nationally obliterates Trump's chance of winning any swing state.
obviously if the GOP fields an anti-Trump candidate Hillary will be elected... I think we don't talk about that because its obvious...
its hard to see how the Republicans win at this point.. if they decide to go in against Trump as they are doing they will seriously weaken him/are weakening him for the fall even if they then decide to support him and nominate him... if they don't nominate him he will run 3rd party.. if the do nominate him but field an alternative they will lose....
the millions of people who voted for him were already angry...
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its hard to see how the Republicans win at this point..
I know and it makes me happy to have them eat their hat with their obstruction on the supreme court nom...wait for the next president...Ha!
What I'm interested in is...how is this going to impact congressional elections?
I would say it would favor the dems...but will it be enough to switch the dominance in both halls
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Hillary is very strong in supporting down-stream candidates and has a long record of it. Bernie has very little concept of it and isn't thinking along those lines at all. Which worried me when everyone was #feelingthebern but now I feel like things are looking Hillary's way, as long as she doesn't get indicted.
God, can you imagine the GOP Convention if Trump gets enough votes to be the nominee? I mean, it will be literally breathtaking.
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I feel like things are looking Hillary's way, as long as she doesn't get indicted.
that does scare me and god knows they are trying as hard as they can to squeeze blood from that stone
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I would say it would favor the dems...but will it be enough to switch the dominance in both halls
Senate, probably. The House? No chance in hell.
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per the twitter, the delusion is running high.... Romney is hoping to block trump at the convention and either him or ryan will be the brokered candiate... okey dokey
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another 242,000 jobs added
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Hutch, do you remember was the 'price' of gas was when Newt pulled that stunt on the Gas Station on Columbia Pike 4 years ago
Wasn't it like $1.85 and was talking all this shit about how Obama was hurting the middle class with gas being so high
That gas station today...$1.67
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I'm actually fascinated to see how Trump does in the next set of primaries. Fox News basically orchestrated a hit on him last night. Cruz and Rubio were setting each other up for one-liners half the night. That was simultaneously a shitshow and completely captivating all at once.
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I'm so pissed I missed last night's debate. I'm totally out of the loop.
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Its definitely taking a toll on Trump's numbers... I think on Super Tuesday he lost about 5% across the board....
If Trump wins MI, OH and FL I have to think its over although Cruz would probably hang on..I just can't see Cruz winning places like CA, NY, PA against Trump in a 1 on 1...
Too many debates....total waste of time...on both sides...
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If Trump wins MI, OH and FL I have to think its over although Cruz would probably hang on..I just can't see Cruz winning places like CA, NY, PA against Trump in a 1 on 1...
I think the new strategy is for Kasich to stay in and try to take OH, then the other 2 stay in the entire way and get a contested convention. It's not about Trump not getting the most delegates, its about keeping him under 50% at this point.
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If Trump wins MI, OH and FL I have to think its over although Cruz would probably hang on..I just can't see Cruz winning places like CA, NY, PA against Trump in a 1 on 1...
I think the new strategy is for Kasich to stay in and try to take OH, then the other 2 stay in the entire way and get a contested convention. It's not about Trump not getting the most delegates, its about keeping him under 50% at this point.
yes there are strategies but if Trump beats Kasich in OH and beats Rubio in FL they will have to both concede.. at some point reality trumps (!) strategy....they may SAY that is their strategy today... but when the numbers come in its different.. How can Rubio make a case he can win if he can't win FL?.. and FL is winner take all so it will really make Trump look like he is closing in on the magic number...If you look at the poll numbers even in a place like Michigan Kasich is doing very poorly.. I think he's a goner...
I think the rest of the candidates and the establishment has until March 15.. that gives them about 10 days and one more debate... Trump might lose some of the caucuses but...can't remember the names but there are two southern states coming up and he will dominate there..
They may talk about a long strategy but that is what campaigns do to buy themselves time... and in this case.. to throw the kitchen sink at him...
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yes there are strategies but if Trump beats Kasich in OH and beats Rubio in FL they will have to both concede.. at some point reality trumps (!) strategy....they may SAY that is their strategy today... but when the numbers come in its different.. How can Rubio make a case he can win if he can't win FL?.. and FL is winner take all so it will really make Trump look like he is closing in on the magic number...If you look at the poll numbers even in a place like Michigan Kasich is doing very poorly.. I think he's a goner...
I agree, if Trump wins the winner-take-all FL and OH delegates, any attempt to hold Trump to a simple plurality goes out the window.
In which case we get into the weird hypothetical of does the GOP establishment run a third-party candidate, knowing full well it concedes the election to Hillary simply to avoid the party moving to Trump's image.
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didn't watch the deba(cle)te last night
but I've just found it funny how they keep talking about bringing the jobs back
I think trump said "if I were president, iphones would be manufactured here'
Not sure why this is such a hard concept, but the reason they are manufactured overseas is they can pay people very little and their labor rights are slim...so very cheap way to get things manufactured
If they built iPhones here...they would cost $2000
and the same thing with exporting 12million illegals (although they really only want to kick out the brown ones)
Who is going to do those jobs...and the cost to the public would be disastrous to our economy
farming/construction and many other industries would have to increase costs to a level that would just be a total disaster
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it's all baseless tough-talk.
how are they going to compel apple to make its phones here, constitutionally? they can't. and even if they could, as 'hatch pointed out it would cost too much, demand would drop, and it would ultimately hurt the company (and its shareholders, and its employees, and those collecting taxes from all of these, etc.)
mass deportation of undocumented workers would wreck havoc on food prices. would also likely result in a humanitarian nightmare. where would we send these people? i doubt that our neighbor to the south wants 12 million arrivals all at once.
it's as if they haven't given their proposals a second thought... oh, wait.
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Fascinating look at who is voting for Trump...and why.
http://reason.com/blog/2016/03/04/trump-supportersin-their-own-words
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didn't watch the deba(cle)te last night
but I've just found it funny how they keep talking about bringing the jobs back
I think trump said "if I were president, iphones would be manufactured here'
Not sure why this is such a hard concept, but the reason they are manufactured overseas is they can pay people very little and their labor rights are slim...so very cheap way to get things manufactured
If they built iPhones here...they would cost $2000
and the same thing with exporting 12million illegals (although they really only want to kick out the brown ones)
Who is going to do those jobs...and the cost to the public would be disastrous to our economy
farming/construction and many other industries would have to increase costs to a level that would just be a total disaster
but you are against free trade so presumably you want those phones built in the US.. otherwise your anti-free trade position makes no sense...
this is what gets me about some people... they love to spout off their anti-free trade drivel but god forbid they should have to pay more money for their iphones
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.. otherwise your anti-free trade position makes no sense...
If left to corporations, they are going to find the way to do things the cheapest way possible
but our economy has to absorb the impact of a factory leaving a small town in welfare, healthcare and other costs that end up being paid by tax payers
so yes you get your shirts for $3 cheaper, but an entire small town got wiped out
is that worth it
I think part of the problem is that there is this mind set that "American lives matter more than peoples lives in developing countries"
So we can totally look the other way when people are pretty much doing slave labor and get our goods cheap
I know I'm a pinko communist and should be railroaded out of town
It's not realistic, but I think we should leverage government to reign in corporations who really don't care about the welfare of individuals
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.. otherwise your anti-free trade position makes no sense...
If left to corporations, they are going to find the way to do things the cheapest way possible
but our economy has to absorb the impact of a factory leaving a small town in welfare, healthcare and other costs that end up being paid by tax payers
so yes you get your shirts for $3 cheaper, but an entire small town got wiped out
is that worth it
I think part of the problem is that there is this mind set that "American lives matter more than peoples lives in developing countries"
So we can totally look the other way when people are pretty much doing slave labor and get our goods cheap
I know I'm a pinko communist and should be railroaded out of town
It's not realistic, but I think we should leverage government to reign in corporations who really don't care about the welfare of individuals
yes you did say you were anti-free trade when you said you were against free trade agreements... I don't understand your position.. it is trying to have it both ways..
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.. otherwise your anti-free trade position makes no sense...
If left to corporations, they are going to find the way to do things the cheapest way possible
but our economy has to absorb the impact of a factory leaving a small town in welfare, healthcare and other costs that end up being paid by tax payers
so yes you get your shirts for $3 cheaper, but an entire small town got wiped out
is that worth it
I think part of the problem is that there is this mind set that "American lives matter more than peoples lives in developing countries"
So we can totally look the other way when people are pretty much doing slave labor and get our goods cheap
I know I'm a pinko communist and should be railroaded out of town
It's not realistic, but I think we should leverage government to reign in corporations who really don't care about the welfare of individuals
Unless you have family and friends in developing countries, who wouldn't be of that opinion?
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it is trying to have it both ways..
maybe so
I don't think we should be providing massive subsides to keep things here
but I do think that can't compete with slave labor, so low skilled Americans just lose jobs and we really haven't found a good way to absorb those workers
I'm really not sure what the answer is, but I do think that we should try to look out for citizens interests and not always corporate interests
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Ok let's get off the free-trade stuff
I don't have a very good argument or facts...just feelings
but Trump is flip-flopping on killing family members of terrorists (http://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-reverses-his-stance-on-torture-1457116559)
I think we are going to see a greater scrutiny on the crazy things he says
not sure why it's taken this long, maybe even Trump never thought he'd get this far
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it is trying to have it both ways..
maybe so
I don't think we should be providing massive subsides to keep things here
but I do think that can't compete with slave labor, so low skilled Americans just lose jobs and we really haven't found a good way to absorb those workers
I'm really not sure what the answer is, but I do think that we should try to look out for citizens interests and not always corporate interests
yes..well, you have no idea what you're talking about but at least you know that...so just remember that next time you're supporting Bernie.. remember you don't want to pay $2000 more for your iphone so your support is just bullshit to make you feel better....remember when you say you are against free trade that you don't really mean it...
I do thank you for being honest...its refreshing.. not that many people would be willing to admit they dont' know what they're talking about..
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it is trying to have it both ways..
maybe so
I don't think we should be providing massive subsides to keep things here
but I do think that can't compete with slave labor, so low skilled Americans just lose jobs and we really haven't found a good way to absorb those workers
I'm really not sure what the answer is, but I do think that we should try to look out for citizens interests and not always corporate interests
yes..well, you have no idea what you're talking about but at least you know that...so just remember that next time you're supporting Bernie.. remember you don't want to pay $2000 more for your iphone so your support is just bullshit to make you feel better....remember when you say you are against free trade that you don't really mean it...
I do thank you for being honest...its refreshing.. not that many people would be willing to admit they dont' know what they're talking about..
oh and thank you for being a pompous asswipe
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that is two insults from you in one day... keep it up jerkie and see where it gets you... just because it is an internet forum doesn't mean it has no bearing at all on our friendship.. i don't mind julian insulting me and worse my children - thought it hurt- but i dont' expect to be giving him a ride to the next rock concert, etc..i expect to punch him in the face and step on him....
free trade means we will gain from some things and not others.. the answer is to retrain and adjust our workforce to those sectors and opportunities where we have an advantage.. most of the value added in apple is provided within the US anyways... will there be economic dislocation? of course but that is life...
i thought i wrote all of this weeks ago in different words? are you paying attention?? I'm sorry for South Carolina textile workers but the answer is not to try to compete with Bangladesh and Vietnam and Central America.. its to find other things for those people to do...
at the same time, the only guy who has talked about being tougher on China and Mexico regarding trade is Trump.. now you can make fun of his hair all you want but he's right! we do need to say to china.. ok, we give you a lot of benefits selling in our market and we expect some reciprocity and if we dont' get it we can find someone else to make this stuff for us...
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i don't mind julian insulting me and worse my children - thought it hurt- but i dont' expect to be giving him a ride to the next rock concert, etc..i expect to punch him in the face and step on him....
Two things:
(1) You did mind and said as much.
(2) No one insulted your children. Mentioning them is not, in and of itself, "insulting them."
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i don't mind julian insulting me and worse my children - thought it hurt- but i dont' expect to be giving him a ride to the next rock concert, etc..i expect to punch him in the face and step on him....
Two things:
(1) You did mind and said as much.
(2) No one insulted your children. Mentioning them is not, in and of itself, "insulting them."
stay out of this it is not of your concern!
you did insult them.. you called them ragamuffin or whatever.. you better not mention them ever again or you are banned AGAIN.. DO YOU FUCKING UNDERSTAND? Kosmo will ban you if you mention my kids again so I suggest you do not do that fuckface..
and maybe i used the wrong words but what i meant was it is different to be insulted by someone you don't know and are not friends with... its like.. it hurt.. but so what? i don't know you and i don't want to
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that is two insults from you in one day... keep it up jerkie and see where it gets you...
Ok I'm not going to go and find all the ways you put me down and insulted me in these past comments
but if you are absolving yourself from doing that...well I guess ignorance is bliss
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that is two insults from you in one day... keep it up jerkie and see where it gets you...
Ok I'm not going to go and find all the ways you put me down and insulted me in these past comments
but if you are absolving yourself from doing that...well I guess ignorance is bliss
like when? when i said you can't spell? well you can't! You know it.. and nobody cares anyways...
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I think part of the problem is that there is this mind set that "American lives matter more than peoples lives in developing countries"
Unless you have family and friends in developing countries, who wouldn't be of that opinion?
because I'm human and I care about the welfare of others that I'm not family or friends with
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Cool. We're recreating the Republican Debate in here, just like Trump wants.
My God, Mike Judge was so prescient....
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stay out of this it is not of your concern!
You brought me into it when you spent a paragraph talking about me.
you better not mention them ever again or you are banned AGAIN.. DO YOU FUCKING UNDERSTAND? Kosmo will ban you if you mention my kids again so I suggest you do not do that fuckface..
You're a petulant child.
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Cool. We're recreating the Republican Debate in here,
POTW
BTW...hutch has really small fingers
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Cool. We're recreating the Republican Debate in here,
POTW
BTW...hutch has really small fingers
they tell me i have beauuuuuutiful hands..
but you're short...little sidehatch
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Cool. We're recreating the Republican Debate in here, just like Trump wants.
all of the posts have to come in at the exact same time, as if they're trying to talk/post over each other, for this to be a full replication of last night's debate.
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BTW...hutch has really small fingers
It's funny, Sweetcell and I were just talking earlier this week about how he is the Donald Trump of the board. It's really quite errie the resemblance in their characters. Blowhard assholes, completely untethered by any facts, who talk for the edification of hearing their own voice.
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I think part of the problem is that there is this mind set that "American lives matter more than peoples lives in developing countries"
Unless you have family and friends in developing countries, who wouldn't be of that opinion?
because I'm human and I care about the welfare of others that I'm not family or friends with
You care about the welfare of a stranger in a far-flung foreign land as much as you care about the welfare of someone from your own family?
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I think part of the problem is that there is this mind set that "American lives matter more than peoples lives in developing countries"
Unless you have family and friends in developing countries, who wouldn't be of that opinion?
because I'm human and I care about the welfare of others that I'm not family or friends with
You care about the welfare of a stranger in a far-flung foreign land as much as you care about the welfare of someone from your own family?
You're conflating two things. I care about my family more than a stranger not because my family is from America and the stranger is not, but because I personally know them. The same is true if the stranger is from Oregon. One's affection for those they are closest to is generally not a byproduct of jingoism.
OTOH, the idea that a stranger from the US should be favored over a stranger from another country, like Sidehatch is talking about, is pure nationalism. Apples, oranges.
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I think part of the problem is that there is this mind set that "American lives matter more than peoples lives in developing countries"
Unless you have family and friends in developing countries, who wouldn't be of that opinion?
because I'm human and I care about the welfare of others that I'm not family or friends with
You care about the welfare of a stranger in a far-flung foreign land as much as you care about the welfare of someone from your own family?
You're conflating two things. I care about my family more than a stranger not because my family is from America and the stranger is not, but because I personally know them. The same is true if the stranger is from Oregon. One's affection for those they are closest to is generally not a byproduct of jingoism.
OTOH, the idea that a stranger from the US should be favored over a stranger from another country, like Sidehatch is talking about, is pure nationalism. Apples, oranges.
All things equal, I have no problem giving preference to my fellow American over a stranger from foreign land.
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I think part of the problem is that there is this mind set that "American lives matter more than peoples lives in developing countries"
Unless you have family and friends in developing countries, who wouldn't be of that opinion?
because I'm human and I care about the welfare of others that I'm not family or friends with
You care about the welfare of a stranger in a far-flung foreign land as much as you care about the welfare of someone from your own family?
You're conflating two things. I care about my family more than a stranger not because my family is from America and the stranger is not, but because I personally know them. The same is true if the stranger is from Oregon. One's affection for those they are closest to is generally not a byproduct of jingoism.
OTOH, the idea that a stranger from the US should be favored over a stranger from another country, like Sidehatch is talking about, is pure nationalism. Apples, oranges.
always hard to say this, but I think jules got it right here
Of course I care more about my friends and family (although seems hutch and I are contradicting that statement)....but I don't think that the lives of other humans on this planet are worthless
I think that a lot of people and corporations really don't care and think that their welfare is of little concern
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I think part of the problem is that there is this mind set that "American lives matter more than peoples lives in developing countries"
Unless you have family and friends in developing countries, who wouldn't be of that opinion?
because I'm human and I care about the welfare of others that I'm not family or friends with
You care about the welfare of a stranger in a far-flung foreign land as much as you care about the welfare of someone from your own family?
All things equal, I have no problem giving preference to my fellow American over a stranger from foreign land.
but you are making it like it's Sophie's choice
Why can you care about your friends, family, Americans and other humans around the world?
and just because they aren't related to you or live on your block...how can you in good conscience be ok with them being treated like subhumans...just so you can have cheap t-shirts and iphones
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I think part of the problem is that there is this mind set that "American lives matter more than peoples lives in developing countries"
Unless you have family and friends in developing countries, who wouldn't be of that opinion?
because I'm human and I care about the welfare of others that I'm not family or friends with
You care about the welfare of a stranger in a far-flung foreign land as much as you care about the welfare of someone from your own family?
All things equal, I have no problem giving preference to my fellow American over a stranger from foreign land.
but you are making it like it's Sophie's choice
Why can you care about your friends, family, Americans and other humans around the world?
and just because they aren't related to you or live on your block...how can you in good conscience be ok with them being treated like subhumans...just so you can have cheap t-shirts and iphones
I never said I was ok with anyone being treated as subhumans. I just said that American lives matter more to me than those in developing nations.
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[unintelligible yelling]
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just like Trump wants.
I didn't quite get this...do you think Trump wants us to anything other than vote for him and not scrutinize anything he says?
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BTW...hutch has really small fingers
It's funny, Sweetcell and I were just talking earlier this week about how he is the Donald Trump of the board. It's really quite errie the resemblance in their characters. Blowhard assholes, completely untethered by any facts, who talk for the edification of hearing their own voice.
well its a rather thankless job, evidently, but somebody has to do it... ;D
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earlier this week my kid's K class had an informal mock election.. sounds like Hillary got 8 Cruz 7 Rubio 5 Trump 1
I was proud of my son for voting for me...
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earlier this week my kid's K class had an informal mock election.. sounds like Hillary got 8 Cruz 7 Rubio 5 Trump 1
I was proud of my son for voting for me...
was Bernie even on the ballot?!
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earlier this week my kid's K class had an informal mock election.. sounds like Hillary got 8 Cruz 7 Rubio 5 Trump 1
I was proud of my son for voting for me...
was Bernie even on the ballot?!
this was very informal... something they came up with over lunch which couldn't take place at the cafeteria due to voting.. I don't know why nobody chimed in for Bernie.. I know my son came back reporting that I use bad words... which is true...but I'm glad he still voted for me. MY son loves me because I am always ahead in the polls and I always win..its true....did I mention there is going to be so much winning when I'm president y'all are going to get sick of it?
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just like Trump wants.
I didn't quite get this...do you think Trump wants us to anything other than vote for him and not scrutinize anything he says?
No. His aim is to bring the level of discourse down to such a ridiculously low level that it becomes accepted as the norm. That way his antics are given a pass.
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ok have we all kissed and made up today? or do i need to book a park for a duel... can we chalk up whatever when down today as a case of the fridays?
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earlier this week my kid's K class had an informal mock election.. sounds like Hillary got 8 Cruz 7 Rubio 5 Trump 1
I was proud of my son for voting for me...
was Bernie even on the ballot?!
this was very informal... something they came up with over lunch which couldn't take place at the cafeteria due to voting.. I don't know why nobody chimed in for Bernie.. I know my son came back reporting that I use bad words... which is true...but I'm glad he still voted for me. MY son loves me because I am always ahead in the polls and I always win..its true....did I mention there is going to be so much winning when I'm president y'all are going to get sick of it?
Can you please ask Ivanka to stop calling me? I've told her it is done. Multiple times. I don't want to involve the police.
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ok have we all kissed and made up today? or do i need to book a park for a duel... can we chalk up whatever when down today as a case of the fridays?
Its up to him but I was a two time all American in fencing.
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ok have we all kissed and made up today? or do i need to book a park for a duel... can we chalk up whatever when down today as a case of the fridays?
Its up to him but I was a two time all American in fencing.
^the guy who brings a sword to a gun fight
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ok have we all kissed and made up today? or do i need to book a park for a duel... can we chalk up whatever when down today as a case of the fridays?
Its up to him but I was a two time all American in fencing.
^the guy who brings a sword to a gun fight
Well, Wonder Woman brings bracelets. Fucking bracelets!
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I just went and read all of this, because I had missed all of this, and it was good . . . Donald trump good, with his rallies and the kids being banned from the marines, because of it.
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Friend Dog Studios presents -Your Drunk Neighbor: Donald Trump (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRly-0wwl_g)
sorry if this was already posted, but this was some good stuff
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"Would, you vote for a robot?"
"They are immune, to corruption and greed."
"Would you?"
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From George Takei's FB:
Donald Trump answers the question: What is 2+2?
"I have to say a lot of people have been asking this question. No, really. A lot of people come up to me and they ask me. They say, 'What's 2+2'? And I tell them look, we know what 2+2 is. We've had almost eight years of the worst kind of math you can imagine. Oh my God, I can't believe it. Addition and subtraction of the 1s the 2s and the 3s. It's terrible. It's just terrible. Look, if you want to know what 2+2 is, do you want to know what 2+2 is? I'll tell you. First of all the number 2, by the way, I love the number 2. It's probably my favorite number, no it is my favorite number. You know what, it's probably more like the number two but with a lot of zeros behind it. A lot. If I'm being honest, I mean, if I'm being honest. I like a lot of zeros. Except for Marco Rubio, now he's a zero that I don't like. Though, I probably shouldn't say that. He's a nice guy but he's like, '10101000101,' on and on, like that. He's like a computer! You know what I mean? He's like a computer. I don't know. I mean, you know. So, we have all these numbers, and we can add them and subtract them and add them. TIMES them even. Did you know that? We can times them OR divide them, they don't tell you that, and I'll tell you, no one is better at the order of operations than me. You wouldn't believe it. So, we're gonna be the best on 2+2, believe me."
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turned off the news this weekend
sanders and cruz had a pretty good few days
Sanders has 8 states! Damn super delegates (and total delegate count) will be his undoing
but NC, FL, OH and MI will really make his counts look pretty bad
drumpf and hill are still crushing delegates and look to continue that trend
Rubio of had a slam dunk in PR...yeah 2 'states' won
Maybe he should run for Governor there?
I'm personally going to blame Julian for Drumpf in MI...although the media wants to blame Romney
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I will win Michigan. The party must unite behind me even if I am a blowhard...
I think people are abandoning Little Marco for Kasich...Rubio will finish 4th in MI... He really is a loser..
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Saw this today and chuckled and cried at the same time
Trump could be stopped by Cruz, much in the way that having cancer can be stopped by being shot in the face.
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http://nypost.com/2016/03/01/my-husband-loves-donald-trump-and-its-breaking-my-heart/
Donald Trump is ruining my marriage.
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^her credibility was kinda shot when I read she was for Carson (actually 2 of the wives in that article)
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I'm waiting, for the obligatory, she's fat and her opinion doesn't matter anyway, from Julian.
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I'm waiting, for the obligatory, she's fat and her opinion doesn't matter anyway, from Julian.
She's voting, for Ben Carson, her opinion, doesn't matter anyway.
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How about you live in New Hampshire and it doesn't matter because your primary is over?
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Some people forget that in order to win the Presidential election, one candidate has to get 270 votes in the Electoral College.
In absence of one candidate getting 270 Electoral College votes, the House of Representatives elects the next President of the United States.
If a third party candidate does moderately well enough to prohibit the largest vote getter from becoming President, is this the Congress you want electing the next President?
Believe me, Michael Bloomberg knows this all too well.
Bloomberg will not risk a Cruz or Trump Victory. (http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2016-03-07/the-2016-election-risk-that-michael-bloomberg-won-t-take)
"But when I look at the data, it?s clear to me that if I entered the race, I could not win. I believe I could win a number of diverse states -- but not enough to win the 270 Electoral College votes necessary to win the presidency.
In a three-way race, it?s unlikely any candidate would win a majority of electoral votes, and then the power to choose the president would be taken out of the hands of the American people and thrown to Congress. The fact is, even if I were to receive the most popular votes and the most electoral votes, victory would be highly unlikely, because most members of Congress would vote for their party?s nominee. Party loyalists in Congress -- not the American people or the Electoral College -- would determine the next president.
As the race stands now, with Republicans in charge of both Houses, there is a good chance that my candidacy could lead to the election of Donald Trump or Senator Ted Cruz. That is not a risk I can take in good conscience."
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I wonder if he would feel differently if Sanders was going to pick up the dem nomination...
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I wonder if he would feel differently if Sanders was going to pick up the dem nomination...
I think your IF should have been bolded and italicized
maybe even some quotes
::)
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would bloomberg even be successful outside of the east coast? who knows anything about him in the Midwest and the west coast and Hawaii and Alaska? he might make an more interesting president than trump, but I still tend to think Hillary is the most effective of them once in office dealing with other politicians. sanders, trump, cruz would get nothing done. not sure about the new horse in the race, mittster.
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Mittens will never be the president.
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I wonder if he would feel differently if Sanders was going to pick up the dem nomination...
I think your IF should have been bolded and italicized
maybe even some quotes
::)
huh?
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I wonder if he would feel differently if Sanders was going to pick up the dem nomination...
I think your IF should have been bolded and italicized
maybe even some quotes
::)
huh?
meaning it's highly unlikely
unless Hill gets indicted ?
but he does make a good case for not letting congress pick the president
that would suck and who the heck would the pick? They hate trump and cruz (and Bloomberg for that matter)
I'm not sure how many votes he'd pull from Hillary and how many actual republicans would vote for him over trump
these are strange times indeed
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Looks like I'm running out of gas ....
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I don't know... I'm seeing you're still in the lead in MI
Kasich is making a commanding charge at 2nd
Sanders in the lead in MI
poor little marco may not even make it to the 15th
almost better he doesn't embarrass himself on his home turf
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yes looks like I've restocked my supply.. expect record asshole blowhardness...
Little Marco really needs to drop out...
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see.. I'm talking about my Gold Clubs and Wineries right now and settling scores with L. Graham etc..Life is good again!
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man this Dem race in MI is quite the nail biter
considering polls had Hill up 20+
also cruz v Kasich is quite the battle too
With Rubio looking he might lose to other...the establishment needs someone to back
while I don't love the guy...out of the 4 standing, he is by far the most sane (bar is pretty low this cycle)
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Hillary had a very bad night...a very VERY bad night...IF she is not indicted- and she should be- I will defeat her easily...and I will win Michigan..it won't even be close! believe me they love me in Michigan.. I own lots of properties there and employ thousands of people.. I have a nice building there..we're very proud of it...
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Jules, thanks for switching teams and giving bernie the win in MI
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Sludge has a very funny headline going...
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Jules, thanks for switching teams and giving bernie the win in MI
People do understand Hillary increased her delegate lead last night, right?
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This thread is 72 pages long. I think the one takeway is that Hutch is one of those Democrats who is going to vote for Trump in the general election.
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well of course I"m going to vote for myself!
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Jules, thanks for switching teams and giving bernie the win in MI
People do understand Hillary increased her delegate lead last night, right?
well she absolutely crushed in the south
but every one had her at 20+ points against the sandman in MI
so in my eyes, while he didn't get the delegate lead for the day....he stole the headlines and her thunder
The 15th is really the defining day here and he picked up a lot of momentum with these headlines
I was listening to that CSPAN call in show on the ride in (ya know as NPR is spending 30% of the air time to beg for money ;))
the takeaway I had is people said they'd vote for Trump, but if for some reason he didn't get the nom, they would vote for Bernie
I mean they couldn't be more different (other than the outsider thing...but bern has been a gov and a senator for a while...so not exactly an outsider )
The one thing the Republicans did do well on the Hill smear campaign is "Hillary is a liar" rhetoric
That is the only thing people really say when they don't like her, but not a single one can really come up with a list of things that she lied about...they just took the talking points bait and keep regurgitating it
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Jules, thanks for switching teams and giving bernie the win in MI
People do understand Hillary increased her delegate lead last night, right?
well she absolutely crushed in the south
but every one had her at 20+ points against the sandman in MI
so in my eyes, while he didn't get the delegate lead for the day....he stole the headlines and her thunder
The 15th is really the defining day here and he picked up a lot of momentum with these headlines
I was listening to that CSPAN call in show on the ride in (ya know as NPR is spending 30% of the air time to beg for money ;))
the takeaway I had is people said they'd vote for Trump, but if for some reason he didn't get the nom, they would vote for Bernie
I mean they couldn't be more different (other than the outsider thing...but bern has been a gov and a senator for a while...so not exactly an outsider )
The one thing the Republicans did do well on the Hill smear campaign is "Hillary is a liar" rhetoric
That is the only thing people really say when they don't like her, but not a single one can really come up with a list of things that she lied about...they just took the talking points bait and keep regurgitating it
What state was Bernie the governor of?
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Jules, thanks for switching teams and giving bernie the win in MI
People do understand Hillary increased her delegate lead last night, right?
well she absolutely crushed in the south
but every one had her at 20+ points against the sandman in MI
so in my eyes, while he didn't get the delegate lead for the day....he stole the headlines and her thunder
The 15th is really the defining day here and he picked up a lot of momentum with these headlines
I was listening to that CSPAN call in show on the ride in (ya know as NPR is spending 30% of the air time to beg for money ;))
the takeaway I had is people said they'd vote for Trump, but if for some reason he didn't get the nom, they would vote for Bernie
I mean they couldn't be more different (other than the outsider thing...but bern has been a gov and a senator for a while...so not exactly an outsider )
The one thing the Republicans did do well on the Hill smear campaign is "Hillary is a liar" rhetoric
That is the only thing people really say when they don't like her, but not a single one can really come up with a list of things that she lied about...they just took the talking points bait and keep regurgitating it
NPR doesn't beg for money, your local public radio station begs for money. Which is appropriate because that is their most important source of funding. NPR is funded by the federal government, via the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, as well as by membership and program subscription fees paid by public radio stations and producers.
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NPR doesn't beg for money, your local public radio station begs for money. Which is appropriate because that is their most important source of funding. NPR is funded by the federal government, via the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, as well as by membership and program subscription fees paid by public radio stations and producers.
And Public Radio International owns both, yes?
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NPR doesn't beg for money, your local public radio station begs for money. Which is appropriate because that is their most important source of funding. NPR is funded by the federal government, via the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, as well as by membership and program subscription fees paid by public radio stations and producers.
And Public Radio International owns both, yes?
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What state was Bernie the governor of?
sorry my bad, knew I should have looked that up before posting
Mayor of Burlington 80-89
U.S. House of Representatives 90-07
US Senate 07-present
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Found a good re-release for cassette store day
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Jules, thanks for switching teams and giving bernie the win in MI
People do understand Hillary increased her delegate lead last night, right?
Nor do they understand that Michigan is not a winner take all state.
Michigan Delegate count:
Sanders 69
Clinton 61
Uncommitted 17
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Nor do they understand that Michigan is not a winner take all state.
Michigan Delegate count:
Sanders 69
Clinton 61
Uncommitted 17
If there's anything I've learned from politics, its never let facts get in the way of a good narrative.
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the real news is that Trump could take out Hillary in Michigan....they just don't like her and her record on trade is and will be a liability there...which is why even if she is winning in terms of delegates her losing to Sanders in MI is a big deal
Too bad Sanders supporters live in LALALAND where continuing to weaken her, exposing her weaknesses etc is good
I put on my Hillary Clinton bumper sticker last week and that is who I am voting for but people that call Trump supporters lunatics aren't doing too much thinking....
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but people that call Trump supporters lunatics aren't doing too much thinking....
Well, they're definitely lunatics but for completely different reasons than you're referencing.
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but people that call Trump supporters lunatics aren't doing too much thinking....
Well, they're definitely lunatics but for completely different reasons than you're referencing.
something is happening but you don't know what it is....do you..Mr. Julian..
tan tan ta ta
tan tan ta ta
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Mr. Julian..
It's Mr. Vanderbilt, thank you very much.
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Mr. Julian..
It's Mr. Vanderbilt, thank you very much.
doesn't fit the parody of "Ballad of a Thin Man"..sorry
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Nor do they understand that Michigan is not a winner take all state.
Michigan Delegate count:
Sanders 69
Clinton 61
Uncommitted 17
If there's anything I've learned from politics, its never let facts get in the way of a good narrative.
While I live my life by julians words here...no one ever said that MI is not a winner take all
but you still have someone who got more votes and getting headlines
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no one ever said that MI is not a winner take all
but you still have someone who got more votes and getting headlines
The narrative I'm refuting is the idea this is a game changed in the Dem nomination race. For all the headlines, Sanders' delegate math got even worse for him last night.
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no one ever said that MI is not a winner take all
but you still have someone who got more votes and getting headlines
The narrative I'm refuting is the idea this is a game changed in the Dem nomination race. For all the headlines, Sanders' delegate math got even worse for him last night.
not by the amount that the pundits were suggesting
this is what they were predicting
Sanders 40
Clinton 90
and this is what happened
Sanders 69
Clinton 61
not sure why you guys can't concede that is pretty dramatic shift from Tuesday morning's predictions
that he was behind 25 delegates in Old Miss...that was a thumping and expected
But there were only 136 delegates up for grabs yesterday
now on 3/15 590 are up for grabs...that's almost exactly the same as Super Tuesday
You can't tell me that these wins and good press are not making this a lot harder fight for Hill
and the Sandman could do well in all these states
RCP avg was hill up 21 points in MI
and it ended up being dead even
He's behind 20-30 points in all the upcoming states...but who is to say he doesn't do the same thing as MI
I think the game has changed and you guys are just not admitting it
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and this is what happened
Sanders 69
Clinton 61
But there were only 136 delegates up for grabs yesterday
No. There were 166 delegates up for grabs yesterday.
130 in Michigan, 36 in Mississippi.
Clinton won 91.
Sanders won 74.
That's what happened.
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there you go with math and facts
honestly looked in a few different places for the counts and got different answers
I went to http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results and just added up and got 156
not sure why it's 10 off??
but the JIST of my statement is the same, you all seem to focus on a error in my statements rather than actually respond
It's ok you know Hill is tanking and you can't take it and figure best tactic is to point out where I made a mistake
Good news...I've got lots more mistakes coming, so you'll have plenty to work with
I still don't think Sanders can do it.
One thing that does scare me is a lot of Democrats don't like Hillary
and a lot of conservatives (oddly) like sanders
My opinion is that it doesn't matter who get's the R next to their name...the person with the D is going to win
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It's ok you know Hill is tanking
She's 18% ahead of the pace she needs to be on to win the nomination.
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well.. as a HRC supporter I find the results in Michigan discouraging.... even if she won the most delegates last night and is still on track to be the nominee she is meeting steep resistance...from a 74 year old socialist..
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she is only 6 years younger
tanking might have been hyperbole...but she is not casually walking her way to the nom
but I need to just drop it as you guys keep parsing my comments and not admit this has become a fight not a cake walk
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she is only 6 years younger
tanking might have been hyperbole...but she is not casually walking her way to the nom
but I need to just drop it as you guys keep parsing my comments and not admit this has become a fight not a cake walk
I think I did admit that.. I said "meeting steep resistance"? I thought i was actually defending your point! It is sad when you try to agree with someone and they assume its an argument...
I happen to think 68 or 69 is very different from 74... the guy would be 78 at the end of his first term? 82 at end of second.....to me that is too old..sorry... I'm not picking on Bernie for his age... by 2008 McCain was too old also.. Reagan was certainly too old by his second term (suffering Alzheimers probably)...
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Frankly all the arguing and insulting is a turn off...
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Frankly all the arguing and insulting is a turn off...
so why do you do it, donald?
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ok...I didn't ack that you actually were backing my point in your comment
but in breaking news...The Republican National Committee filed two lawsuits on Wednesday seeking to obtain emails related to Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton's tenure as U.S. secretary of state.
they can't get their own act together, so let's sue the competition
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that thing, when you tell yourself trump can't take things any lower - and somehow, he does:
http://www.npr.org/2016/03/09/469775355/trump-doesnt-own-most-of-the-products-he-pitched-last-night
my forehead is about to become flat, after repeatedly banging it against my desk.
how... how, america? how can we let this lying clown be taken seriously?
he goes on national television to prove how great a businessman he is, how incredible his products are... and EVERY SINGLE ONE* IS A FAKE??? yet there he is, proudly pimping them, hoping no one actually looks at the product. seriously? i guess it's the same way he's conducting his campaign: "i'm going to say a bunch of things, but no one can ask for details or look too closely at my ideas."
* exception: Trump U, which is moth-balled and currently being sued for fraud.
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she is only 6 years younger
tanking might have been hyperbole...but she is not casually walking her way to the nom
but I need to just drop it as you guys keep parsing my comments and not admit this has become a fight not a cake walk
It is far closer to a cakewalk than a fight. Barring death, imprisonment, or sever disability, the odds of Hillary Clinton being the Democratic nominee at 99+%.
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The same odds that she had for winning Michigan.
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Frankly all the arguing and insulting is a turn off...
so why do you do it, donald?
I've got everyone coming at me and you have to respond in kind and set the record straight.. once I'm the nominee there won't be any issues...
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Trump is simultaneously anti-elitist and also his entire qualification for the Presidency is that he's elite (a rich celebrity). What a weird conflation.
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Trump is simultaneously anti-elitist and also his entire qualification for the Presidency is that he's elite (a rich celebrity). What a weird conflation.
Its complicated...
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Trump is simultaneously anti-elitist and also his entire qualification for the Presidency is that he's elite (a rich celebrity). What a weird conflation.
If you wait by the river long enough, the bodies of your enemies will float by.
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If trump did book reviews by tweet (http://www.buzzfeed.com/expresident/trump-tweets-the-classics#.vs69Zm26P)
(https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2016-03/7/16/enhanced/webdr01/enhanced-4779-1457387504-1.jpg?no-auto)
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best one:
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Let?s Redesign Every NFL Logo As Donald Trump And Make The League Great Again
http://uproxx.com/sports/donald-trump-nfl-logos/
(https://uproxx.files.wordpress.com/2015/12/trump-logos-featured.jpg?quality=80&w=650&h=331)
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for the parents on the board
How Do You Talk to Your Children About Donald Trump? (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/11/us/politics/donald-trump-talking-to-your-kids.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0)
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digging deep for pundits I see
they should have put quotes around pioneer
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digging deep for pundits I see
they should have put quotes around pioneer
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hahhaah amazing.
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next thing you know they'll ask Jules and Hutch for their opnions
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Brooke Baldwin is hot...
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I was amazed at Ben Carson's op-ed in the Post today where he talks about strategies for down-ticket GOP candidates in the wake of the Trump phenomenon. I mean, Carson has been like a special needs moon man who gets asked about economic policy and starts talking about the pyramids or Proverbs 18:10.
Would love to know who wrote it for him, and the extent to which he was involved in any way.
"Dr. Carson, we've drafted an essay for you. It's going to appear in Thursday's Washington Post."
"I see. Does it, expand on my theory, that Hitler was, a grand but misunderstood, man of the people."
"Is that a question, sir? Anyway, uhh yes, that's exactly what it's about."
(http://sib7.ir/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/4d22c_81768561-70177903.jpg)
"I am so blessed, to hear that."
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Not really sure how to process the irony in both these stories
Asher Edelman, the inspiration for Gordon Gekko (http://usuncut.com/politics/gordon-gekko-sanders/)in Oliver Stone?s ?Wall Street,? was asked on CNBC?s ?Fast Money? who would be his choice for the next President of the United States. He quickly responded, ?Bernie Sanders? No question.?
On Trade, Donald Trump Breaks With 200 Years of Economic Orthodoxy
?I will call the head of Carrier and I will say, ?I hope you enjoy your new building,?? Mr. Trump said last month. ??I hope you enjoy Mexico. Here?s the story, folks: Every single air-conditioning unit that you build and send across our border ? you?re going to pay a 35 percent tax on that unit.?? (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/11/us/politics/-trade-donald-trump-breaks-200-years-economic-orthodoxy-mercantilism.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news)
Trump has really figured out this Trade thing...just raise tariffs and that will solve everything
other than pretty much the average joe will have to spend 2 to 3 times more for everything
so good plan donald
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"I see. Does it, expand on my theory, that Hitler was, a grand but misunderstood, man of the people."
"I am so blessed, to hear that."
walk,on,by is ben carson?!?
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"I see. Does it, expand on my theory, that Hitler was, a grand but misunderstood, man of the people."
"I am so blessed, to hear that."
walk,on,by is ben carson?!?
(https://cdn.psychologytoday.com/sites/default/files/blogs/88617/2013/12/140832-141633.jpg)
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Trump has really figured out this Trade thing...just raise tariffs and that will solve everything
other than pretty much the average joe will have to spend 2 to 3 times more for everything
so good plan donald
I thought you were against NAFTA?
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Trump has really figured out this Trade thing...just raise tariffs and that will solve everything
other than pretty much the average joe will have to spend 2 to 3 times more for everything
so good plan donald
I thought you were against NAFTA?
never said i was against it, I just was stating that many poor democrats were impacted and unions were strongly against it
But your assumption is that I would want a plan like donald's and I don't
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Trump has really figured out this Trade thing...just raise tariffs and that will solve everything
other than pretty much the average joe will have to spend 2 to 3 times more for everything
so good plan donald
I thought you were against NAFTA?
never said i was against it, I just was stating that many poor democrats were impacted and unions were strongly against it
But your assumption is that I would want a plan like donald's and I don't
what plan? Trump has plans? That is news to me...
just having trouble understanding what you think on trade.. are you for free trade, for tariffs, somewhere in between, what exactly do you believe?
I mean I thought you were against free trade agreements.. weren't you for Nader etc? Now you are for Sanders who is against free trade.. so I assumed you were also... but please tell me..
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so Ben Carson is about to endorse me.. lets just put it this way: he won't need to go on any more book tours for a while..
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free trade, for tariffs, somewhere in between
I look at it like a spectrum and think there is some middle ground.
also because I like a candidate, doesn't always mean that every single policy and platform of theirs, I'm totally aligned with. I am not a fool to think that everything a politician says will be the law of the land on day one, there will be compromise. But, you need to think big sometimes as then you get a lot more if you think small.
I do think that trade deals are often orchestrated where big players do well and the little guy gets screwed
I think coming to the table with a plan to deal with the fallout internally is all I ask (job re-training)
typically the economy on the whole does well with free trade, but there are winners and losers. The losers just happen to be other citizens.
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(https://media.giphy.com/media/IbEd9mDBJlHgI/giphy.gif)(https://media.giphy.com/media/IbEd9mDBJlHgI/giphy.gif)
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Trump cant even correctly take a stunner.
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forgot about that
this is how Trump plans to deal with isis
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yikes
Hillary Clinton Shockingly Praises Nancy Reagan's 'AIDS Activism' (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-nancy-reagan-aids-activism_us_56e31770e4b0b25c9181e002)
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yikes
Hillary Clinton Shockingly Praises Nancy Reagan's 'AIDS Activism' (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-nancy-reagan-aids-activism_us_56e31770e4b0b25c9181e002)
Even I was all WTF when I read that earlier.
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Put that on your read list, Madam Secretary....
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yikes
Hillary Clinton Shockingly Praises Nancy Reagan's 'AIDS Activism' (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-nancy-reagan-aids-activism_us_56e31770e4b0b25c9181e002)
Even I was all WTF when I read that earlier.
I might have to sit this election out.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heE143betU8&feature=youtu.be
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http://bcove.me/w5m1iftz
Trump Supporters in a nutshell
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now she has apologized for having "misspoken" .. I really don't know what her or her campaign are thinking...
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She should just blame it on smoking some primo ganja.
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http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-rally-postponed-chicago-large-crowds-protesters-gather/story?id=37589985
http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/Trump-Supporters-Thousands-Expected-to-Protest-Rally-371791082.html
Turned violent (live camera on that one)
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man if I went to protest every politician i found loathsome i wouldn't have any time at all.....
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The video feed is off while the helicopter refuels.
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Probably the best photo from First Lady Reagan's Funeral.
(http://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdeV41iW0AA5s1O.jpg)
There was a time...
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Jeebus, who is the freaky zombie lady watching in the background?
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I get, a more Anjelica Huston, in the witches, vibe from her.
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speech,less
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her, again?
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/272864-coulter-id-like-to-see-a-little-more-violence-from-trump
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I can't believe none of you are talking about Rubio's historic win in the District!
although sadly he had to split the delegates with Kasich
I chuckled while listening to the radio this morning
"and Marco Rubio, with three wins"
but trump got zero (although there 391 trumpettes cast their vote)
the 70 yahoos in WY got him one delegate too
Good job in Northern Mariana Islands Hill!
what's up with Guam, total nailbiter
Also Donald...are you going to pay my legal fees if I beat up anyone who doesn't agree with you?
as there are a few Hillary supporters I was on the fence about punching and now I'm glad to know I'll have some support
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as there are a few Hillary supports I was on the fence about punching
Bernie people... BERNIE!!!! BER-NIIEEEEEEEEEEEE!
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as there are a few Hillary supports I was on the fence about punching
Bernie people... BERNIE!!!! BER-NIIEEEEEEEEEEEE!
I know we're really a violent bunch...
there will be BLOOD!
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speech,less
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...some good man on man Memes await this photo
just imagine Romney in his magical underwear and what's that in Kasich's hand?
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that image is shopped, right? kasich looks really crisp...
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yeah that does look already photoshoped
this was too good not to share
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http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-dem-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/03/trump-pastor-bernie-sanders-jesus-220724
The warm-up act at a Donald Trump event in Hickory, North Carolina, took an unexpected approach to warming up the crowd, calling on Sen. Bernie Sanders to have a "come to Jesus" moment.
"Bernie Sanders who doesn't believe in God. How in the world are we going to let Bernie? I mean really? Listen, Bernie gotta get saved. He gotta meet Jesus. He gotta have a come to Jesus meeting," Burns said before Trump and Christie sat down for their question-and-answer session.
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Donald Trump faces 'total war' from Anonymous cyberattacks on April Fools' Day (http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/optrump-donald-trump-faces-total-war-anonymous-cyberattacks-april-fools-day-1549368)
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Video statement (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ciavyc6bE7A)
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"Bernie Sanders who doesn't believe in God.
add this to the reasons I like the Sandman
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my prediction is FL will be much like the game I used to play in the pool as a child
Marco...
Marco...
Marco...
But no one says polo and today we say good bye to his failed campaign
(I knew it was a bad sign when one of his top staffers was saying to vote for Kasich in OH)
man I so darn antsy to hear the results tonight
I just can't tell who whispered 'beware of the ides of march' in whose ear
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why the fuck would anyone would vote for that Obama loser??
https://www.facebook.com/BuzzFeedNews/videos/1108709599150057/?fref=nf
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Donald, is now reminding me, after some of those clips, as being a real life Richard dawson from the running man.
I am enjoying the ways divisions of thought and how people deal with emotional responses can be broken down into bite sized video segments for me to watch and learn from.
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I love this headline
Sarah Palin Nurses Husband Back To Health By Drunk-Stumping For Trump In Florida
(http://wonkette.com/599683/sarah-palin-nurses-husband-back-to-health-by-drunk-stumping-for-trump-in-florida#UUAo0UlW0BsEOsJd.99)
Drunk-stumping...ha!
I love how she calls protestors THUGS
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you know that term, the gift that keeps on giving . . . its, sarah palin. good article, too.
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come on Ben, no one said you had to be honest
Ben Carson: I Didn?t Want To Endorse Trump, But He Promised (http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/03/15/3760261/carson-offered-position-by-trump/)Me A Position
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One way to avoid having protesters...
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/03/15/3760227/trump-youngstown-avoid-protesters/
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New Kevin Sherry cartoon:
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as a democrat I have to say I am jumping with joy at prospect of either a very wounded Trump or crazy Cruz being Republican opponent..
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I know, it will be so easy for Bernie to win in November ;D
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Michigan results definitely looking like a bizarre outlier from today's (early) results. Hillary is pillaging towns and raping Bernie's women and children.
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Rubio drops out.
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YAY!
I really grew to LOATH Rubio...his embrace of the neocons in particular... I think he was the John Edwards of the Republican Party.. a total fake.....
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for the love of god bernie DROP OUT!
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not true... the superdelegates are free to change their mind..
Oh, it absolutely is true yesterday, today and right up until mid-March when this race is over and she starts tacking to the center.
Ding.
I get paid the big bucks because I know how to play the game.
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not true... the superdelegates are free to change their mind..
Oh, it absolutely is true yesterday, today and right up until mid-March when this race is over and she starts tacking to the center.
Ding.
I get paid the big bucks because I know how to play the game.
I've been saying Hillary would win this nomination since she conceded in 2008 so I think I got you beat... but they don't pay me the big bucks...so you got that small consolation..
added
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I also have to agree with my associate in the 927 sq ft home: a lot of us called Hillary in a protracted, albeit never-in-doubt, race to end all doubt once they moved out of states where no minorities loved.
No credit due for any of us.
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man, trump just narrowly missed a flush tonight
I warned marco....beware of the ides of march
and feeling the burnt tonight
would have been nice to post Ill with Mo
without a lot of winner take all states, there is no math that can get Bernie in
it's all about math
But how do you take that large part of the base and get them on board
I will say the order of the states is really an odd thing. NY, CA, CT, DR, PA, RI, NJ, MD, WA, OR all haven't cast a vote. Both costs are almost totally left (no pun interned)out.
Since it's all about the math, I think sucks that such a big part of the populace doesn't even get a chance to have their say on who will be the nominee for their own party.
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Am I crazy to think that there could be a future where a party nomination would be online?
I think the establishment wouldn't want it because it gives too much power away
But it could happen, as it's just the parties internal rules for electing the nominee?
The federal and state rules are really only applied to the general??
is there any legal reason the democratic party couldn't go with a 2 week on line voting period?
It would save the organization millions...if not billions
of money that could be used to fight the opponent in the general
----full disclosure, I'm not an electoral legal expert here, so if there is one here, feel free to pick apart my theory
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But how do you take that large part of the base and get them on board
Uhhhhh. . . make Trump the opposing nominee?
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I apologize. I readily dismiss anyone who pays attention to Iowa and New Hampshire as someone who simply gets their information from watching cable news and find their commentary to be baseless.
If either one of you wants to show me your prediction for the date and time for Hillary's victory, that was closer than Mid-March (I gave myself a one day window as there are 31 days in March and I wasn't sure if Bernie would concede the night of or the day after) I may start to reconsider your political prowess.
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I've been saying Hillary would win this nomination since she conceded in 2008 so I think I got you beat... but they don't pay me the big bucks...so you got that small consolation..
Bitch Hutch, you joined this board in April of 2008, long after I was on record of calling that election over. If you think I knew who you were or gave any credence to your opinion, you'd be wrong. And don't limit that statement to elections.
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and feeling the burnt tonight
would have been nice to post Ill with Mo
no mo fo yo
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I've been saying Hillary would win this nomination since she conceded in 2008 so I think I got you beat... but they don't pay me the big bucks...so you got that small consolation..
Bitch Hutch, you joined this board in April of 2008, long after I was on record of calling that election over. If you think I knew who you were or gave any credence to your opinion, you'd be wrong. And don't limit that statement to elections.
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not true... the superdelegates are free to change their mind..
Oh, it absolutely is true yesterday, today and right up until mid-March when this race is over and she starts tacking to the center.
Do I think Hillary is going to crush Bernie and this is just a media show...sure....but I don't understand what you're saying about NH and Iowa not mattering.....Even as a Hillary supporter who thinks she is going to spank Sanders (can I get a gif of that?) I still think what happened yesterday does matter...
I stand by my statement...
what happened here is last night you could not wait to post something making the point YOU WERE RIGHT AS ALWAYS and you got called out on predicting something totally obvious.. and you don't like it...
okee dokee...
now what was your prediction on the R side? If you had predicted Trump as the nominee a while back.. well, that might say something.. so go back and repost that prediction..
oh, and APRIL?? Kind of late eh?
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I agree with Hutch that predicting Hillary wins this nomination years out is not some prognosticating marval; it was fait accompli. But I also agree with Vansmack that Hutch is a piece of shit. This is such a
SophieJulian's Choice.
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I agree with Hutch that predicting Hillary wins this nomination years out is not some prognosticating marval; it was fait accompli. But I also agree with Vansmack that Hutch is a piece of shit. This is such a SophieJulian's Choice.
Your insults on this board towards me, and my children, do not please me and are not acceptable behavior on this board. You are going to be banned again and this time I am not going to advocate for your return.
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Your insults on this board towards me, and my children, do not please me and are not acceptable behavior on this board. You are going to be banned again and this time I am not going to advocate for your return.
No one mentioned your children.
And I find it hard to believe you "advocated" for my return considering my first reign on this community did not overlap with you posting on here. Please direct me to said advocacy; would love to be proven wrong.
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I would prefer if we buried the hatchet in the ground and not in each other backs... thanks...
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Your insults on this board towards me, and my children, do not please me and are not acceptable behavior on this board. You are going to be banned again and this time I am not going to advocate for your return.
No one mentioned your children.
And I find it hard to believe you "advocated" for my return considering my first reign on this community did not overlap with you posting on here. Please direct me to said advocacy; would love to be proven wrong.
You have mentioned my children in the past and now you are calling me a piece of shit.
I AM NOT PLEASED. You are welcome to disagree with me without calling me names.. when you start insulting me or my children you cross the line...DO NOT DO IT.
As far as advocating for your return I did do that.. and I was here during your so called "first reign" before you got banned...
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I AM NOT PLEASED.
Oh, dear! The ladies at the yacht club shall hear of this!
when you start insulting me or my children you cross the line...DO NOT DO IT.
Actually, no: you are not a special dandelion that cannot be insulted. People are free to insult you just as people are free to insult me. And again -- despite your best Hutchian efforts to pivot the conversation to fantasy instead of facts -- neither Smackie nor I mentioned your family anywhere in this conversation.
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If you have to insult someone's children, go nuts on mine. They're total wieners.
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If you have to insult someone's children, go nuts on mine. They're total wieners.
How magnanimous of you! Do you have any poor parenting traits (poverty, tolerance for obesity, etc etc) we can play off of?
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I AM NOT PLEASED.
Oh, dear! The ladies at the yacht club shall hear of this!
when you start insulting me or my children you cross the line...DO NOT DO IT.
Actually, no: you are not a special dandelion that cannot be insulted. People are free to insult you just as people are free to insult me. And again -- despite your best Hutchian efforts to pivot the conversation to fantasy instead of facts -- neither Smackie nor I mentioned your family anywhere in this conversation.
you are not free to insult me.. and you have insulted my children multiple times on this board.. you were warned not to do it again.. recently..
Vansmack has not insulted me. I have no problem with what he wrote even if I may not like it.
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If you have to insult someone's children, go nuts on mine. They're total wieners.
How magnanimous of you! Do you have any poor parenting traits (poverty, tolerance for obesity, etc etc) we can play off of?
Hmmmm, let's see. Well, I force them to do squats while having breakfast so obesity is out. I'm fabulously wealthy, but spend nothing on them, so stick that in the 'maybe' column. I abuse any number of intoxicants, but I rarely share with them, so we'll put that one in the parking lot, and hopefully they have inherited my long history of mental and sexual illness.
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you have insulted my children multiple times on this board.. you were warned not to do it again.. recently..
And has it happened again since then? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
A kid threw me into a locker once in 8th grade; you don't see me walking around horribly aggrieved like it happened this morning.
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If you have to insult someone's children, go nuts on mine. They're total wieners.
How magnanimous of you! Do you have any poor parenting traits (poverty, tolerance for obesity, etc etc) we can play off of?
Hmmmm, let's see. Well, I force them to do squats while having breakfast so obesity is out. I'm fabulously wealthy, but spend nothing on them, so stick that in the 'maybe' column. I abuse any number of intoxicants, but I rarely share with them, so we'll put that one in the parking lot, and hopefully they have inherited my long history of mental and sexual illness.
Well, perhaps your filthy ragamuffin's borderline personality disorder would be better maintained if you stopped boozehounding with Ira Glass and spent some goddamned time with them you muscle-bound lothario!!
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Why don't we get back on-topic and talk about what an egomaniac Bernie Sanders is to have not pulled out of this race and publicly apologized to Hillary yet.
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Anybody going to Abbath tomorrow???? :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
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you have insulted my children multiple times on this board.. you were warned not to do it again.. recently..
And has it happened again since then? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I did not say it has but it did happen and you were wrong to do it..calling me a piece of shit father to my ragamuffin children was not cool..you should have been banned for that..frankly.... and you are wrong to insult me now calling me a piece of shit... to say you are free to insult me is ludicrous..
look, I'm not asking for that much dude.. do you really want to argue that you are free to call me a piece of shit on this board??? when i didn't say anything about you to begin with? I did not even mention you!
I'm sure Kosmo and Seth can speak to whether boardies are free to insult each other if we ask them to clarify for you.. if you really need a clarification of something so obvious...
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do you really want to argue that you are free to call me a piece of shit on this board??? when i didn't say anything about you to begin with?
I mean, within reason. People insult each other on here every day; people are not banned daily. Res ipsa loquitor.
You're free to call me a piece of shit. Go ahead, you might like it.
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Anybody going to Abbath tomorrow???? :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
Hey Jaded, commentary?
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8)
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John Kasich's jumper is trash (http://deadspin.com/john-kasichs-jumper-is-trash-1765218026)
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https://twitter.com/NewDay/status/710065948657635328?ref_src=twsrc
Donald seems to think there will be riots if he does not get the nomination. And other "bad things."
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He has such disdain for the press. What the hell is wrong with him?
https://youtu.be/WBQvvTBg2Ek
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https://twitter.com/NewDay/status/710065948657635328?ref_src=twsrc
Donald seems to think there will be riots if he does not get the nomination. And other "bad things."
paraphrasing here, but trump said "if i'm 100 votes short, but closer to the needed number than the next guy, i can't see how i shouldn't be given the nomination automatically". actually, you dolt, that's how the system works. if you didn't get 50% you don't get it automatically.
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https://twitter.com/NewDay/status/710065948657635328?ref_src=twsrc
Donald seems to think there will be riots if he does not get the nomination. And other "bad things."
paraphrasing here, but trump said "if i'm 100 votes short, but closer to the needed number than the next guy, i can't see how i shouldn't be given the nomination automatically". actually, you dolt, that's how the system works. if you didn't get 50% you don't get it automatically.
I'll actually sort of defend Trump on this. While, yes, that is not how the system works, he's speaking more on a "fairness" level not a procedural one. He would be the clear choice of the voters. If Trump has 48% of the delegates and they go and give the nomination to Rubio or Bush, that's totally acceptable legally/procedurally, but it's also clearly giving a giant middle finger to the will of the people.
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https://youtu.be/59biNi9cDAo
How can anybody trust this guy?
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https://youtu.be/59biNi9cDAo
How can anybody trust this guy?
A lot of people see what they want to see in Trump... which makes him very dangerous..
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He would be the clear choice of the voters.
but he wouldn't be the clear choice. if a candidate gets less than 50%, that means more people don't want him than do. hence the need to do multiple rounds of voting until a candidate does get an actual majority.
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He would be the clear choice of the voters.
but he wouldn't be the clear choice. if a candidate gets less than 50%, that means more people don't want him than do. hence the need to do multiple rounds of voting until a candidate does get an actual majority.
Maybe "clear choice" wasn't the right way to put it. He would be -- let's agree -- the most popular choice. There's no way he has a distinctive lead on second place, loses it in the convention because he fell just short of 50%, and that huge number of people who went out and voted for him aren't going to feel disenfranchised, rules be damned.
From a pure "fairness" standpoint, I agree with him. Taking it out of the hands of the actual voters so people can make some backroom deal seems, on its face, very much against the democratic process. Lots of general elections end with people not getting to 50%; I think if that situation was handled the way a primary handles it, people would be so outraged they'd demand the system change going forward.
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... aaaaaaand that's exactly what the GOP establishment is wrestling with.
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The Economist rates Trump presidency among its top 10 global risks
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/economist-trump-presidency-global-risk-220887?cmpid=sf
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Is Ted Cruz secretly the frontman of Christian metal band Stryper? (http://www.dailydot.com/lol/ted-cruz-michael-sweet-stryper/)
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Hillary had a pretty funny cameo on Broad City.
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Donald Trump's volunteer contract forbids all criticism of Trump for life
http://www.dailydot.com/politics/donald-trump-volunteer-contract-nda-non-disparagement-clause/
i can't even.
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Is Ted Cruz secretly the frontman of Christian metal band Stryper? (http://www.dailydot.com/lol/ted-cruz-michael-sweet-stryper/)
"Who's up for starting the rumor that John Kasich is actually Black Flag guitarist Greg Ginn?" (http://www.chron.com/news/politics/article/No-Ted-Cruz-is-not-the-lead-singer-of-Stryper-6895443.php)
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Best tshirt of the day. Saw some teenager wearing it.
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The most depressing thing about how Donald Trump orders his steak (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/03/16/what-people-who-ruin-steak-like-donald-trump-have-in-common/?tid=sm_fb)
Donald Trump Ordered A Well Done Rib Eye Last Night. Well Done! (http://www.barstoolsports.com/chicago/donald-trump-ordered-a-well-done-rib-eye-last-night-well-done/)
and remember, he is very successful at selling steaks! just ask the sharper image! (actually don't ask, just trust him...)
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That explains why his steaks were reportedly crap: they're apparently intended to be cooked well-done.
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every donald trump supporter. (https://www.facebook.com/DailyWire/videos/1530429543919538/) a worthy investment of 2 minutes.
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It's Over Gandalf. We Need to Unite Behind Saruman to Save Middle Earth from Sauron! (http://m.dailykos.com/story/2016/3/17/1503088/-It-s-Over-Gandalf-We-Need-to-Unite-Behind-Saruman-to-Save-Middle-Earth-from-Sauron)
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Trump says goodbye to Rubio
https://www.facebook.com/superdeluxevideo/videos/237162889961602/
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Bros for Bernie ad
https://www.facebook.com/superdeluxevideo/videos/235915856752972/
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I can't remember if it was Sweetcell or Julian who asked me on Friday, but the answer is this:
The House of Representatives may only choose from one of the Top Three Electoral Vote winners from the General Election as the next President.
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that was me, and as always you deliver.
so much for sneaking Romney or Ryan in there...
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so much for sneaking Romney or Ryan in there...
Not so fast - Romney was rushed out of nowhere to be the voice of reason for the right. I couldn't figure out "why him?", until you asked me the question.
He never took the pledge, so they could run Romney as a moderate third party candidate with the sole purpose of preventing Hillary or Trump from getting to 270 (mind you, I don't think it would work, but it does explain why he came out of nowhere to be on the front pages against Trump). Then the House could elect him.
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so much for sneaking Romney or Ryan in there...
Not so fast - Romney was rushed out of nowhere to be the voice of reason for the right. I couldn't figure out "why him?", until you asked me the question.
He never took the pledge, so they could run Romney as a moderate third party candidate with the sole purpose of preventing Hillary or Trump from getting to 270 (mind you, I don't think it would work, but it does explain why he came out of nowhere to be on the front pages against Trump). Then the House could elect him.
talk about a hail mary
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I couldn't figure out "why him?", until you asked me the question.
apart, we are but two idiots.
together, we are half an idiot. 75% improvement!
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Well it looks like the Brussels portion of my friend's Brussels/London vacation just got extended.
And maybe Trump just won the election?
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Well it looks like the Brussels portion of my friend's Brussels/London vacation just got extended.
And maybe Trump just won the election?
at least we already have a nice drawing for all of the slactivists out there.
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Hillary inspired me to make a meme while she was doing her counter terrorism speech:
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https://www.facebook.com/thedailyshow/videos/10154011298311800/
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I buy slightly smaller than large gloves ;D
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^ best gif i've seen in a while.
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couldn't decide if this belongs here or in the Onion thread:
More than 20,000 sign petition to allow guns at Republican National Convention
http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/26/politics/guns-petition-republican-national-convention/index.html
"And supporters would like RNC Chairman Reince Priebus to explain why a "gun-free" venue was chosen for the Republican convention and to communicate a contingency plan to relocate the convention if nothing changes."
the Secret Service has got to be loving this...
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couldn't decide if this belongs here or in the Onion thread:
More than 20,000 sign petition to allow guns at Republican National Convention
http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/26/politics/guns-petition-republican-national-convention/index.html
"And supporters would like RNC Chairman Reince Priebus to explain why a "gun-free" venue was chosen for the Republican convention and to communicate a contingency plan to relocate the convention if nothing changes."
the Secret Service has got to be loving this...
This totally plays in to my dream of sending Julian to the convention
It's going to be a shit show.
Didn't realize we'd have to pay for a bullet proof Armani suit
I think they should come up with a compromise and allow people to be paint guns
now that would be fun
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couldn't decide if this belongs here or in the Onion thread:
More than 20,000 sign petition to allow guns at Republican National Convention
http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/26/politics/guns-petition-republican-national-convention/index.html
"And supporters would like RNC Chairman Reince Priebus to explain why a "gun-free" venue was chosen for the Republican convention and to communicate a contingency plan to relocate the convention if nothing changes."
the Secret Service has got to be loving this...
This totally plays in to my dream of sending Julian to the convention
It's going to be a shit show.
Didn't realize we'd have to pay for a bullet proof Armani suit
I think they should come up with a compromise and allow people to be paint guns
now that would be fun
shitshow is about to get shittier: secret service has said no guns at the convention. they can suspend local laws when it comes to protecting politicians & dignitaries.
a gun-nut's interpretation: a federal agency is taking away a state-sanctioned right (ohio is an open carry state), and a constitutional right (2nd amendment).
pass the popcorn!
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https://youtu.be/U4xdSr7x8yI
Trump tweets make sense as mean girls
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https://twitter.com/NewDay/status/710065948657635328?ref_src=twsrc
Donald seems to think there will be riots if he does not get the nomination. And other "bad things."
paraphrasing here, but trump said "if i'm 100 votes short, but closer to the needed number than the next guy, i can't see how i shouldn't be given the nomination automatically". actually, you dolt, that's how the system works. if you didn't get 50% you don't get it automatically.
I'll actually sort of defend Trump on this. While, yes, that is not how the system works, he's speaking more on a "fairness" level not a procedural one. He would be the clear choice of the voters. If Trump has 48% of the delegates and they go and give the nomination to Rubio or Bush, that's totally acceptable legally/procedurally, but it's also clearly giving a giant middle finger to the will of the people.
i guess we'll agree to disagree... i'm more in line with http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/03/donald-trump-republican-convention-213770
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https://twitter.com/NewDay/status/710065948657635328?ref_src=twsrc
Donald seems to think there will be riots if he does not get the nomination. And other "bad things."
paraphrasing here, but trump said "if i'm 100 votes short, but closer to the needed number than the next guy, i can't see how i shouldn't be given the nomination automatically". actually, you dolt, that's how the system works. if you didn't get 50% you don't get it automatically.
I'll actually sort of defend Trump on this. While, yes, that is not how the system works, he's speaking more on a "fairness" level not a procedural one. He would be the clear choice of the voters. If Trump has 48% of the delegates and they go and give the nomination to Rubio or Bush, that's totally acceptable legally/procedurally, but it's also clearly giving a giant middle finger to the will of the people.
i guess we'll agree to disagree... i'm more in line with http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/03/donald-trump-republican-convention-213770
I never understand arguments like the one below. This writer assumes that a vote for an opposing candidate is a vote AGAINST Trump. Like someone somehow can't like BOTH Trump AND (pick one, or more) Cruz, Carson, Rubio, Kasich, etc and just happen to like one of those other guys MORE THAN Trump.
Here are the hard facts: As of today, 32 states have cast votes in the Republican presidential race through primaries, caucuses or conventions. In every single one of them, the anti-Trump forces have won a majority. In 22 of those states, more than 60 percent of Republican voters have rejected the Donald; in nine of those states, more than 70 percent rejected Trump. In all, according to the New York Times, 21,027,107 votes have been cast so far in the Republican nominating contests; and the anti-Trump vote has trounced the self-proclaimed avatar of greatness, 12,944,945 to 8,082,148. With the campaign essentially all about him, Trump or non-Trump, he is losing by nearly five million votes.
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that's cause its a moronic argument... I recall hearing about some polling of Kasich supporters and it showed many of them would vote for Trump if Trump and Cruz were the only guys left.. The media and politcal pundit class and republican establishment is constantly trying to spin this "Trump voters are insane morons" narrative..so those not voting for Trump are "not morons" and would not go for the "moron"... if only it were that simple...
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http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-idUSKCN0WV1TP
Trump's Campaign Manger arrested for battery
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:o
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I never understand arguments like the one below. This writer assumes that a vote for an opposing candidate is a vote AGAINST Trump. Like someone somehow can't like BOTH Trump AND (pick one, or more) Cruz, Carson, Rubio, Kasich, etc and just happen to like one of those other guys MORE THAN Trump.
you're missing the point. given the choices, more people prefer someone other than trump than those who do. you're right. they aren't saying the don't like trump. what they are saying is that trump isn't their first choice. the rules for obtaining the nomination are that the candidate must be the first choice of a majority of voters (50%+1), otherwise the alternate process kicks in. the end.
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He is the worst. I would like to get through a morning without screaming obscenities at my radio.
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Well at least you're tuned into your local public radio station! Whether a public or commercial broadcast, today's radio industry is as active and healthy as it ever has been and fears no other media to topple its dominance! RADIO FOR ALL RADIO FOREVER PLEASE GOD I JUST NEED A FEW MORE YEARS
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PLEASE GOD I JUST NEED A FEW MORE YEARS
that ended differently than expected, but I was thinking it before you said it
time to learn how to put an iPhone together as trump is bringing that job back
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relaxer is upset, that his fuck thread, went nowhere.
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relaxer is upset, that his fuck thread, went nowhere.
SAYS YOU, GIRLFRIEND
C'mon, that was some straight up unique content I provided for you all. Problem is, I haven't had any more super dramatic adventures. I also have a bad habit of starting threads and then just abandoning them. How you doin, neglected KPOP thread?
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you were providing porn to guys who talk about beer, wrestling, lps, baseball, shows, gifs, cats, and jul,ian. guurl.
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relaxer is upset, that his fuck thread, went nowhere.
SAYS YOU, GIRLFRIEND
C'mon, that was some straight up unique content I provided for you all. Problem is, I haven't had any more super dramatic adventures. I also have a bad habit of starting threads and then just abandoning them. How you doin, neglected KPOP thread?
But you shared a nice long list of potential candidates. Surely one or two of them must have panned out?
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latest Trump crazee on punishing women for having abortion...maybe this is the tipping point?
as a D supporter I have to wonder what is the best scenario.. maybe Trump ends up with most delegates , doesn't get the nomination, RNC picks someone else and Trump runs third party? or maybe Trump gets the nomination? a few months ago I thought Cruz was so extreme it would be great to have him get the nomination but then I thought to myself he was a bit scary and rather smart...
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you know, at first I was like, lets give trump a chance for 4 years and see what happens. he could wind up either being a do nothing carter and be hated out into one term only or win the hearts of the people ala Reagan before he lost his mind. then I keep hearing all these people saying that all these things that are going on at rallies and the general sealed vacuum of hatred which has been released, will only grow stronger and more defiant with him in office, to perhaps a point of possible fucking crazy times in the future. so, I don't know what to think now about him in the office, or just accept more of the same with Hillary. and I don't think sanders would get a damn thing done with the fours years he would be given beside trying to change too much too quick and pissing everybody off.
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you know, at first I was like, lets give trump a chance for 4 years and see what happens. he could wind up either being a do nothing carter and be hated out into one term only or win the hearts of the people ala Reagan before he lost his mind. then I keep hearing all these people saying that all these things that are going on at rallies and the general sealed vacuum of hatred which has been released, will only grow stronger and more defiant with him in office, to perhaps a point of possible fucking crazy times in the future. so, I don't know what to think now about him in the office, or just accept more of the same with Hillary. and I don't think sanders would get a damn thing done with the fours years he would be given beside trying to change too much too quick and pissing everybody off.
Sounds like a vote for Cruz control.
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cruz . . . makes me want to question the human race.
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Walkie may be making a good argument for why democrats should wish Cruz wins the nomination.. Walkie might vote for Trump but would not vote for Cruz... lets try to imagine Walkie.. a disaffected middle age white man living in the sticks of Virginia... the modern Reagan democrat if you will... he sells homes but maybe in the early 80s he would have been working industry... Trump speaks to him..speaks his lingo....
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If only this was not so expensive...
http://www.rageon.com/products/ted-cruz-true-zodiac-1
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+215,000 jobs in March
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+215,000 jobs in March
Half of those are reporters covering Trump. The other half are liberal columnists writing shit about Sanders.
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+215,000 jobs in March
Half of those are reporters covering Trump. The other half are liberal columnists writing shit about Sanders.
^nice!
you did forget to add the surge in security personal needed for trump rallies
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+215,000 jobs in March
Half of those are reporters covering Trump. The other half are liberal columnists writing shit about Sanders.
^nice!
you did forget to add the surge in security personal needed for trump rallies
And lawyers to rep reporters assaulted by stormtrumpers.
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Teen girl pepper-sprayed outside Trump rally charged with disorderly conduct (https://www.rawstory.com/2016/03/teen-girl-pepper-sprayed-outside-trump-rally-charged-with-disorderly-conduct/)
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Wisconsin...
I'm going to go with upsets on both sides... Trump and Hillary win tomorrow....
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Every,body is saying Wisconsin is the game changer this week. I've never been there . . . is it nice?
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Every,body is saying Wisconsin is the game changer this week. I've never been there . . . is it nice?
the beer thread has a high opinion of their tasty offerings
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wow..ted cruz and bernie both projected winners....only a few minutes after polls closed so they must have destroyed....
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ABC
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I think Hutch will like this headline
Bernie Sanders Wins Wisconsin, Changes Nothing (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/04/06/bernie-sanders-wins-wisconsin-changes-nothing.html)
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did cruz winning, change anything?
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was a post deleted here? i thought there was something else below my Trumpty Dumpty post... can't remember what. maybe i'm just going senile.
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did cruz winning, change anything?
It's bringing to light the fact that Trump peaks at about 37% of the Party primary vote. If he doesn't start getting over 40% the convention is going to be epic.
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Sanders going to the Vatican . invited to talk about creating a "moral economy"...
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sanders versus cruz. good lord. uhh. what a choice. trump versus Hillary, looking better everyday.
and, no fucking way, to paul ryan.
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http://gawker.com/donald-trumps-kids-never-bothered-to-register-to-vote-i-1770241206
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Tyler the Creator's new shirt
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stipe is looking like letterman now
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Is that a vegan hot dog or is Stipe not a vegetarian?
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"Sanders was joined by wife Jane and REM frontman Michael Stipe who is an avowed vegetarian, but decided to take on a hot dog alongside his political idol - See more at: http://www.detroitnewstime.com/regional/128651-bernie-sanders-polishes-off-a-hot-dog-on-coney-island.html#sthash.InJ8csBo.dpuf"
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"Sanders was joined by wife Jane and REM frontman Michael Stipe who is an avowed vegetarian, but decided to take on a hot dog alongside his political idol - See more at: http://www.detroitnewstime.com/regional/128651-bernie-sanders-polishes-off-a-hot-dog-on-coney-island.html#sthash.InJ8csBo.dpuf"
ugh, what a waste... if you're going to break your vegetarianism, fine, but for a f*cking hot dog?? at least got for something decent, a quality meat.
and i fear what that tube of processed pink slime did to the digestive track of someone unaccustomed to eating meat.
getting back on topic: donald drumpf.
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couldn't find any punk rock hil shirts?
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The top 3 shirts are clever but that Joy Division one is dumb. It's just the Unknown Pleasures cover with his face pasted on top of it, with no connection or anything. Lazy.
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The top 3 shirts are clever but that Joy Division one is dumb. It's just the Unknown Pleasures cover with his face pasted on top of it, with no connection or anything. Lazy.
agreed...I thought they would post side-by-side and only added the 4th one for symmetry
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"Sanders was joined by wife Jane and REM frontman Michael Stipe who is an avowed vegetarian, but decided to take on a hot dog alongside his political idol - See more at: http://www.detroitnewstime.com/regional/128651-bernie-sanders-polishes-off-a-hot-dog-on-coney-island.html#sthash.InJ8csBo.dpuf"
ugh, what a waste... if you're going to break your vegetarianism, fine, but for a f*cking hot dog?? at least got for something decent, a quality meat.
and i fear what that tube of processed pink slime did to the digestive track of someone unaccustomed to eating meat.
getting back on topic: donald drumpf.
In that same article: Donald eats pizza with a fork and knife. Lizard Person confirmed.
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In that same article: Donald eats pizza with a fork and knife. Lizard Person confirmed.
by far my biggest pet pevee on the planet
PEOPLE it's a hand food!
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I started out eating pizza with a fork and knife.. I was brought up that way.... now I eat it with my hands and I burp too...
It would be interesting to know- and I can't be bothered to check- how they eat it in Italy.. although even if they did use cutlery we know American "Exceptionalism" would make eating with hands the correct way...
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I grew up on California pizza (NOT CPK, than you very much), which typically uses thin crust and blended cheeses (5 or more). When my family moved to Maryland, we had a hell of a time finding pizza that wasn't a sloppy mess. We often had to use forks and knives. Fortunately, we were tipped off to Railroad Inn in Bowie. It's gone now but apparently it's been re-opened in spirit someplace in Ohio (I think).
I eventually got used to East Coast pies, usually Three Brothers.
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judging people, by how they eat pizza . . . 'merica.
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A true New Yorker takes his or her slice, folds it longways and eats it accordingly, almost like a taco. I know this.
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judging people, by how they eat pizza . . . 'merica.
like your credit score and your taste in music...says a lot about your character :o ;D ;)
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I eat pizza with a fork and knife because my evolution is one of refinement.
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I suspect the political commentariat hasn?t fully woken up to how monumental a finish California will be. (http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/a-state-by-state-roadmap-for-the-rest-of-the-republican-primary/)
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I eat pizza with a fork and knife because my evolution is one of refinement.
you listen to coldplay...your opinion is moot
sheesh that's not refinement, that's barbaric
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you listen to coldplay...your opinion is moot
sheesh that's not refinement, that's barbaric
No, it makes me gay, which is also refinement.
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you listen to coldplay...your opinion is moot
sheesh that's not refinement, that's barbaric
No, it makes me gay, which is also refinement.
^ POTW right there!
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Sarah Palin Doesn?t Think Bill Nye Is A Real Scientist
?Bill Nye is as much as scientist as I am.?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/sarah-palin-bill-nye_us_57101cefe4b0018f9cb993a1?section=politics
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pizza underground should write a song
gays, use fork only. old people, fork and knife. with their hands all up on it, every one else gets them a slice.
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I've come to believe Kasich has a loose screw or two... something is off with him..on discrimination against LGBT:
"If you feel as though somebody is doing something wrong against you, can you just, for a second, get over it, you know, because this thing will settle down,"
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interesting turn...in the 11th hour no less
Election Justice USA tells Independent voters to cast provisional ballots in NY (http://www.examiner.com/article/election-justice-usa-tells-independent-voters-to-cast-provisional-ballots)
because if in January you decided you wanted to vote for Bernie in NY...it was too late
you had to know in October
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(http://i.imgur.com/kFCpC0U.jpg)
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Looks like John Kasich big winner of night: now 3 delegates closer to 1237... Cruz holds strong and steady.....Trump manages only 90 or so...
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on D side Sanders campaign manager Jeff Weaver (who owns a comic book store near here in Falls Church btw) says Sanders will fight to the convention even if loses pledged delegate vote and popular vote to Hillary... Shortly before that he was spotted doing lines of coke off of a desk.. Banner night for Hillary who not only buries Sanders while it also increasingly looks like Trump will be her opponent... The White House never looked so inviting for her taking....
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtW5upD5oW4
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The White House never looked so inviting for her taking....
Well, she deserves it. Just ask her.
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The White House never looked so inviting for her taking....
Well, she deserves it. Just ask her.
The American people will decide who "deserves" it....not Hillary.
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Banner night for Hillary who not only buries Sanders
http://www.cnn.com/election/primaries/states/ny/Dem
pledged delegates:
clinton: 139
sanders: 108
so she increased her lead, but not by a ton...
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Banner night for Hillary who not only buries Sanders
http://www.cnn.com/election/primaries/states/ny/Dem
pledged delegates:
clinton: 139
sanders: 108
so she increased her lead, but not by a ton...
but the reality of the dem primaries is he needs to have crushed NY and the remaining primaries with 60 % of the vote...for a sec it was looking like the momentum was swinging his way
There are a lot of independents who would have gladly came out and voted...but that's what happens when you register as an independent...don't get to vote in the primaries
Like DC...if you want to vote for mayor...you better be a registered dem, because the primary is the real mayoral election
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What sidehatch said.
This is one of three populous states that Sanders needed more than a "good showing" - he needed to outright win and failing to do so means that he needs to win PA and CA by unattainable numbers (PA where he trails by 10 he now needs to win by 14 and CA by 15, where he now trails by 13 points).
He's simply running out of time and his ground game is considerably behind in the populous states.
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What sidehatch said.
...drops mic....
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This may be the greatest political ad I have ever seen. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cpqoVqqDGk)
While I was watching it, I was all
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^that's some good stuff
I love the looks that 'hill' makes
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I enjoy, that the comments were disabled for the video. how, interesting of cruz to not let the people, speak. but yes, the wo/hillary/man gives face for days. guurrl.
is it safe to say it is trump vs Hillary, now? are people still thinking that some kind of craziness is going to erupt at the convention?
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are people still thinking that some kind of craziness is going to erupt at the convention?
it is certain cra-cra will be present at the RNC...but looking like Trump will get the nom
I'm not sure the rest of the party likes cruz more than trump
hard to say
honestly they should just write of 2016 and focus on the future (and maybe even the present while they are still in congress)
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the baltimore sun needs better fact checkers...
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cgk_ocGWIAEC-sQ.jpg:large)
https://twitter.com/benjancewicz/status/723179179819307008
edit: i guess the sun stands by the name... and kosmette heard that the rally reeked of manure because they held in some field on the eastern shore that was recently covered in the stuff
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/politics/bs-md-donald-trump-maryland-scene-20160420-story.html
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ok Marylanders....who is Roque "Rocky" De La Fuente and are you voting for him?
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ok Marylanders....who is Roque "Rocky" De La Fuente and are you voting for him?
(http://cdn.pastemagazine.com/www/articles/1-Gangster-Actors-Real-Mob-Ties-Montana.jpg)
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ok Marylanders....who is Roque "Rocky" De La Fuente and are you voting for him?
(http://cdn.pastemagazine.com/www/articles/1-Gangster-Actors-Real-Mob-Ties-Montana.jpg)
yes i'm voting for him, 'cause that mofo will break my knee caps if i don't.
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cool interactive: How the Rest of the Delegate Race Could Unfold (http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/03/30/upshot/trump-clinton-delegate-calculator.html?_r=0) - play with the vote % and see the impact on delegate counts.
for the GOP, The Donald needs to average 42% the rest of the way as a bare minimum if he wants to avoid a contested convention. has there ever been a presidential nomination race where California was this important?
for the Dems, it's over. even if Bernie gets 70% of the remaining votes, he doesn't close the gap.
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both races are over.
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has there ever been a presidential nomination race where California was this important?
Important is an interesting word, but the last time CA's primary mattered for the Republican's was 1976 when Reagan beat Ford, but still lost the nomination. Some argued that it both cost the R's the 1976 general election and setup Reagan for the win in 1980.
For the Dem's it was 1972 when McGovern clinched over Humphrey. Back then the CA primary was winner take all and CA was a huge deal. Now both parties split the delegates based on votes and CA no longer sways the parties one way or another.
I would argue, however, that the most important Primary in CA history was RFK in 1968. After winning and perhaps securing the nomination, he was assassinated leaving the hotel post victory speech.
for the Dems, it's over. even if Bernie gets 70% of the remaining votes, he doesn't close the gap.
Please tell me that you did not just figure this out because of this interactive map...
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Donald Trump has only one path to the GOP nomination. And he has himself to blame for it.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/04/18/donald-trump-has-only-one-path-to-the-gop-nomination-and-he-has-himself-to-blame-for-it/
Please tell me that you did not just figure this out because of this interactive map...
the interactive put a number on what was known but not quantified.
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Donald Trump has only one path to the GOP nomination. And he has himself to blame for it.
That's a political journalist's take, not a political scientist's take.
both races are over.
Not yet. While last night aided Trump a lot, he's not yet in the comfortable spot Hillary is in. This can still be undone by Indiana and California.
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I've been saying Hillary would win this nomination since she conceded in 2008 so I think I got you beat... but they don't pay me the big bucks...so you got that small consolation..
Bitch Hutch, you joined this board in April of 2008, long after I was on record of calling that election over. If you think I knew who you were or gave any credence to your opinion, you'd be wrong. And don't limit that statement to elections.
With all due respect Vansmack you already established you don't care about anything I have to say so please just ignore me.. thanks much.
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Cruz to name Fiorina as running mate. Clearly a move to gain more traction in CA.
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children...play nice!
can someone post a synopsis of the Trump Int'l Policy speech he gave
my brah-in-law is raving about it
Hope you're doing well ....Trump just won the election with his foreign policy speech today ...it's over Oh man it was like a used car salesman on a double dose of steroids
I don't think even for a moment that he's appeared presidential until today ...he crushed it
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children...play nice!
can someone post a synopsis of the Trump Int'l Policy speech he gave
my brah-in-law is raving about it
Hope you're doing well ....Trump just won the election with his foreign policy speech today ...it's over Oh man it was like a used car salesman on a double dose of steroids
I don't think even for a moment that he's appeared presidential until today ...he crushed it
"America First," he followed and, surprisingly, stayed on script.
35 minute mark here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW8RqLN3Qao
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my take: this election has been over for months... many want to convince us otherwise but I do not believe them...
the whole Sanders movement is a study in delusion.. Cruz has very limited appeal....regardless of whether the Republican elites want Trump or not they got him.
I do go back and forth on how strong a general election candidate Trump would be...... some days I think he will crush Hillary and others I think the other way around.. I can't quite make up my mind...this is disturbing to me.
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I, like turtles.
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my take: this election has been over for months...
I will say that in my heart of hearts I knew that to be true months ago...on both sides no less
but things got very interesting for a moment and the hail mary was there...but how many times do hail mary's succeed
(funny me with the sport's reference)
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"I get along with almost everyone, but I have never worked with a more miserable son of a bitch in my life." Boehner on Cruz
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https://www.facebook.com/superdeluxevideo/videos/259774291033795/
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http://www.tedcruzforhumanpresident.com/
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Trump's connection wirh The National Enquirer . . . priceless.
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http://www.tedcruzforhumanpresident.com/
love this quote....
I have seen many people and Ted Cruz is one of them
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Here's something you will most certainly never hear Smackie say again:
Come on, Evangelicals!
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I love that Carly-Ted gif. I also love this one.
(http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/uploads/2016/5/2/carlyfalling.gif.CROP.original-original.gif)
It's like the mic dropped Carly.
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WTF is up with the handspider thing? are they both trying to grab the other's hand to hold it up in the air and nobody wanted to give in?
Cruz really scares me...
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ABC News has projected that Trump has won the state of Indiana.
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Evangelical vote
Trump 48
Cruz 45
(according to exit poll as reported by CNN)
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With the early Hamilton County results, it's looking like a complete sweep of all 57 delegates. That means virtually no chance of a contested convention. With a successful CA, he could even top 1400 electoral delegates.
EDIT: Cruz is dropping out, per his campaign manager.
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One one hand, he and almost all of his supporters are the kind of people who are wrong about everything, have no idea what's going on, are mad for no real reason, and aren't interested in learning anything.
On the other hand, it might be fun to have a president that just yells and insults people all the time.
and here we are...... all these comments and months later... one step closer...
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With the early Hamilton County results, it's looking like a complete sweep of all 57 delegates. That means virtually no chance of a contested convention. With a successful CA, he could even top 1400 electoral delegates.
EDIT: Cruz is dropping out, per his campaign manager.
fuck that cunt, and good riddance.
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fuck that cunt, and good riddance.
might want that bumper sticker
cruz is one evil fuc
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With the early Hamilton County results, it's looking like a complete sweep of all 57 delegates. That means virtually no chance of a contested convention. With a successful CA, he could even top 1400 electoral delegates.
EDIT: Cruz is dropping out, per his campaign manager.
fuck that cunt, and good riddance.
hear hear..
I'll eat a chocolate to that...
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fuck that cunt, and good riddance.
might want that bumper sticker
cruz is one evil fuc
so true.. sad thing is he is just getting warmed up.. he's going to be around for a long time...he very carefully tried to cast himself as Reagan in 1976 in his speech ... if Trump fails to win in the general, as he is (not unreasonably) banking, he will run again in four years.. the guy is only 45 and from a wacko state that will keep reelecting him...
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^^^^ nice hit combo
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Kasich out... brain blockage cleared last night and realized he needed 12000000% of delegates left to win.....
Sources: Kasich placing call to Sanders to explain "eureka" moment
Breaking: Math book being mailed to Sanders by Moveon.org by USPS Priority
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http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-gop-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/05/donald-trump-cinco-de-mayo-taco-hispanics-222860?cmpid=sf
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I love the fact in a matter of just a few weeks, Carly Fiorina lost as a presidential candidate and a vice presidential candidate.
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i think trump is going to be our next president. this is an insane time to be alive
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Kevin Robillard
✔ @PoliticoKevin
So Carly Fiorina joined the campaign just in time to lay everyone off?
8:31 PM - 3 May 2016
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fuck i'm going to have nightmares tonight about that taco bowl head...
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Going to have to get the Economist the POTW award
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Going to have to get the Economist the POTW award
They were given a lifetime achievement award some time ago and are no longer eligible.
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He's going to win. He's going to change the way we look at politics. Deal, with it.
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He will not win. He can't even keep his tax policy straight. I just watched a video of him changing his position. Over and over.
Who is going to vote for him? The Hilary haters? The 10,000,000 GOP primary voters that got him the nomination? I seriously doubt that is enough people to win. My dad is one of the most conservative people that I know. I know for a fact he hates Hillary Clinton. But Donald Trump is not a conservative and I can't imagine my dad would vote for that clown. Maybe there will be some independent candidate that will appeal to conservative voters, but I can't imagine Donald Trump is the candidate that would appeal to these conservative voters.
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The 10,000,000 GOP primary voters that got him the nomination? I seriously doubt that is enough people to win.
He's going to need in the neighborhood of 64-65M votes to win (absent a third party candidate).
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hey we elected this guy in the future...so nothing is really off the table
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(absent a third party candidate).
So what do you think the likelihood of this is?
Republicans love to vote...but they hate hil soooo much
I just can't imagine them not voting?
Think Gary Johnson might have a chance to steal a few million voters?
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The bigger news is what he said about US debt.... proposing a haircut on it is pretty extreme.. just last week he said something about not wanting the US to become Argentina but that is exactly what Argentina does!
I cannot even begin to imagine the cataclysmic consequences of saying "Hey you bought US bonds.. we'll give you 72 cents on the dollar!"
Someone said that the reason the markets did not tank is because they don't take him seriously..I can't remember if they meant that the market doesn't take seriously the things he says or the likelihood he wins... they said that if a Hillary or Jeb had made that statement the markets would have tanked...
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He'd do something in his first 100 days that would get him impeached. And for something actually serious, not just lying about sex.
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He'd do something in his first 100 days that would get him impeached. And for something actually serious, not just lying about sex.
yikes and ben carson would then be president!!
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He'd do something in his first 100 days that would get him impeached. And for something actually serious, not just lying about sex.
yikes and ben carson would then be president!!
I don't see Ben Carson as the VP.....
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Trump should get this guy:
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He'd do something in his first 100 days that would get him impeached. And for something actually serious, not just lying about sex.
yikes and ben carson would then be president!!
I don't see Ben Carson as the VP.....
Only reason I say that is Cheney was Bush's man to find a VP for him...and he selected himself
so I thought that was tradition at the GOP
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Trump should pull out the Joker card and go for Paul Ryan.
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Sanders wins West Virginia... estimate probably wins delegates in West Virginia 16-13...... closing gap by 3 delegates to like 6 or 7 HUNDRED... at this pace could overtake Hillary in about 200 states or so...luckily 260 left in the United States of Denial where Sanders supporters live...#MathSoHardforSandersSupporters Keep chipping in $27 (don't mess with the average!).. there is a path to winning located right next to the yellow brick road...
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I hope so..
http://www.newsmax.com/JohnGizzi/newt-gingrich-tops-trump-vp/2016/05/10/id/728194/
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I hope so..
http://www.newsmax.com/JohnGizzi/newt-gingrich-tops-trump-vp/2016/05/10/id/728194/
best news I heard all day
if they fail, they could probably open the Best Damn Whorehouse in Nevada
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I almost posted this in the faux Onion thread but it's just too dark for that:
North Carolina school system to allow pepper spray (http://abc11.com/education/north-carolina-school-system-to-allow-pepper-spray/1332267/)
A North Carolina school system has adopted a policy allowing high school students to carry pepper spray this fall, a policy one board member said may be useful for students who encounter transgender classmates in the bathroom.
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I almost posted this in the faux Onion thread but it's just too dark for that:
North Carolina school system to allow pepper spray (http://abc11.com/education/north-carolina-school-system-to-allow-pepper-spray/1332267/)
A North Carolina school system has adopted a policy allowing high school students to carry pepper spray this fall, a policy one board member said may be useful for students who encounter transgender classmates in the bathroom.
The absurdity of this genuinely made me laugh uncontrollably. Wow.
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Bernie Sanders Could Still Win the Democratic Nomination ? No, Seriously (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/seth-abramson/bernie-sanders-could-still-win-the-democratic-nomination----no-seriously_b_9898436.html)
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I almost posted this in the faux Onion thread but it's just too dark for that:
North Carolina school system to allow pepper spray (http://abc11.com/education/north-carolina-school-system-to-allow-pepper-spray/1332267/)
A North Carolina school system has adopted a policy allowing high school students to carry pepper spray this fall, a policy one board member said may be useful for students who encounter transgender classmates in the bathroom.
i can see the scenario now:
Principal: "Biff, you maced Billy. Explain yourself."
Biff: "Well... uhh... it's like... I thought he was one of them transgendereds! Yeah, that's it!"
Principal: "Well, normally this would be grounds for pressing criminal charges of assault against you, but gosh darnit if you say you thought he was one of those trans-generationals, then I guess it's self-defense. Off with you whipper-snappers!"
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this really needs to go into "what a sad pathetic world we live in" thread
George Zimmerman to sell gun used to kill Trayvon Martin, help fund anti-Clinton effort (http://thescoopblog.dallasnews.com/2016/05/george-zimmerman-to-sell-gun-used-to-kill-trayvon-martin-help-fund-anti-clinton-effort.html/)
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this really needs to go into "what a sad pathetic world we live in" thread
George Zimmerman to sell gun used to kill Trayvon Martin, help fund anti-Clinton effort (http://thescoopblog.dallasnews.com/2016/05/george-zimmerman-to-sell-gun-used-to-kill-trayvon-martin-help-fund-anti-clinton-effort.html/)
I know right...
Don't worry.. justice has a way of catching up with these sad excuses for people.. look at OJ...
They'll get George Z in the end... he'll do something stupid and end up behind bars...
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I hope someone shows up, pays for the gun, and then shoots Zimmerman.
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It's like he intentionally finds ways to be more disgustingly evil.
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this really needs to go into "what a sad pathetic world we live in" thread
George Zimmerman to sell gun used to kill Trayvon Martin, help fund anti-Clinton effort (http://thescoopblog.dallasnews.com/2016/05/george-zimmerman-to-sell-gun-used-to-kill-trayvon-martin-help-fund-anti-clinton-effort.html/)
How has no one just approached this asshole in the streets and just beat the shit out of him?
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this really needs to go into "what a sad pathetic world we live in" thread
George Zimmerman to sell gun used to kill Trayvon Martin, help fund anti-Clinton effort (http://thescoopblog.dallasnews.com/2016/05/george-zimmerman-to-sell-gun-used-to-kill-trayvon-martin-help-fund-anti-clinton-effort.html/)
How has no one just approached this asshole in the streets and just beat the shit out of him?
Speaking for myself, I haven't really been on the lookout for the guy.
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this really needs to go into "what a sad pathetic world we live in" thread
George Zimmerman to sell gun used to kill Trayvon Martin, help fund anti-Clinton effort (http://thescoopblog.dallasnews.com/2016/05/george-zimmerman-to-sell-gun-used-to-kill-trayvon-martin-help-fund-anti-clinton-effort.html/)
no sale (http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/12/us/george-zimmerman-gun-auction/index.html)
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Hopefully, there are lots of bogus bids and one of them "wins". The bogus bidder would be under no true legal obligation to finish the transaction, the auction site would ban them (one out of potentially thousands), and the murderer can go pound sand if he tries to sue.
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Hopefully, there are lots of bogus bids and one of them "wins". The bogus bidder would be under no true legal obligation to finish the transaction, the auction site would ban them (one out of potentially thousands), and the murderer can go pound sand if he tries to sue.
Kendrick lamar had to deny he didn't buy it.
http://www.snopes.com/kendrick-lamar-destroys-zimmerman-gun/
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If we've lost Raffi its over... I am crestfallen
Raffi Cavoukian @Raffi_RC 21m21 minutes ago
on CNN @VanJones68 a voice
of truth, fairness. #FeelTheBern
#KentuckyPrimary
#OregonPrimary
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If we've lost Raffi its over... I am crestfallen
effing hell, don't post sh*t like that... i had to check my news feed to make sure Raffi didn't just die!
f*ck you, 2016. this is what you've done to us.
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(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13240142_1222132601164966_7321985015280502995_n.jpg?oh=e032a84013555f42e3d0777d011e1b93&oe=57E54069)
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How awesome would a Bernie-Trump debate be?
I have to think Trump will find some reason to get out of it....but hope it happens...
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Trump is officially the GOP flag-bearer. I'm weirdly excited about this.
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Trump backs out of debate... not too surprising....
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Did anyone else catch the shitshow that was the Libertarian Convention on Sunday? This was the funniest thing I've seen on tv since they were chasing OJ and his friend down the street.
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/libertarian-party-chairman-hopeful-strips-stage-c-span-n582501
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We can't possibly let this thread fall off the first page!
My eight year old thinks Mike Love would make a good vice presidential running mate for Trump.
Any thoughts on that one?
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We can't possibly let this thread fall off the first page!
My eight year old thinks Mike Love would make a good vice presidential running mate for Trump.
Any thoughts on that one?
Perfect choice.
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I think the board is suffering "Trump fatigue.."
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Let's just get this thread to 100 pages before we start talking about fatigue.
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ok game on.
I'm thinking Trump will pick Newt as his VP....
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ok game on.
I'm thinking Trump will pick Newt as his VP....
I do too... total disaster ticket, but fine by me
also Mike Love would have the ticket would be:
Trump/Love 2016
might as well pick this guy
(http://a4.files.blazepress.com/image/upload/c_fit,cs_srgb,dpr_1.0,q_80,w_620/MTI4OTgzOTM3NzYxNDUwNDYy.jpg)
I think this would be a good running mate
(https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/enhanced/webdr03/2012/11/13/9/enhanced-buzz-5571-1352816520-4.jpg?no-auto)
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might as well pick this guy
(http://a4.files.blazepress.com/image/upload/c_fit,cs_srgb,dpr_1.0,q_80,w_620/MTI4OTgzOTM3NzYxNDUwNDYy.jpg)
Holy crap. That photo was taken of a CRT screen! Who still owns one of those?
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ok game on.
I'm thinking Trump will pick Newt as his VP....
Newt is the most obvious choice, which makes me think he'll pick someone else. God I would love it if he picked like Ted Nugent or Kelsey Grammar or... Mike Love.
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Mel Gibson...is he a citizen?
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can we have more fights at his rallies? I'm not sensing, enough fights here and I like a good fight to show leadership. it makes trump that much more appeal,ing.
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I think people who go to rallies to protest the rally are morons....
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Mel Gibson...is he a citizen?
He is a citizen. Born in NY, moved to Oz when he was a kid. Now has homes all over, but still a US citizen with primary residence in Malibu, I think.
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Then indeed...VP nominee Mel Gibson please
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These two tweets sum up the idiocy that is donald trump..
https://twitter.com/BuzzFeedAndrew/status/738951981901963264
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..with a few coronas and watch the results come in..
Bernie crushing it in North Dakota!
North Dakota Votes Percent Del. (100%)
Sanders 253 64.2 13
Clinton 101 25.6 5
Only 254 people in the whole state voted in the primary!
last gasp
I think he put up a hell of a fight and think that the Hill camp is going to have to work for his base (although not too hard when trump is the alternative)
I hope he wins California!
early numbers have him at 61% (well only 10k votes in :))
Man I can't believe that Hil is only up by 2 points (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html) against trump
doesn't even seem possible with the crazy shit he keeps saying
so the states where all the ad $ going to be spent
Arizona
Colorado
Florida
Georgia
Iowa
Michigan
Minnesota
Nevada
New Hampshire
North Carolina
Ohio
Oregon
Pennsylvania
Virginia
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..with a few coronas and watch the results come in..
Bernie crushing it in North Dakota!
North Dakota Votes Percent Del. (100%)
Sanders 253 64.2 13
Clinton 101 25.6 5
Only 254 people in the whole state voted in the primary!
last gasp
I think he put up a hell of a fight and think that the Hill camp is going to have to work for his base (although not too hard when trump is the alternative)
I hope he wins California!
early numbers have him at 61% (well only 10k votes in :))
Man I can't believe that Hil is only up by 2 points (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html) against trump
doesn't even seem possible with the crazy shit he keeps saying
so the states where all the ad $ going to be spent
Arizona
Colorado
Florida
Georgia
Iowa
Michigan
Minnesota
Nevada
New Hampshire
North Carolina
Ohio
Oregon
Pennsylvania
Virginia
dude sometimes sometimes SOMETIMES I gotta wonder
the reason she is barely up in the polls is because the Sanders supporters aren't going to say they are voting for her when they are still supporting Sanders...imagine if the pollster calls a Sanders supporter.. many of them these days aren't feeling very positive about Hillary...its going to take a while to come together and win them over...
ND is a caucus..I think you understand.
You hope Bernie wins CA but yet are shocked Hillary is only up 2 in some polls....
man sometimes sometimes SOMETIMES...
facepalm
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I hope he wins California!
"Clinton leads by 24 points, with 26% reporting." --> http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/california
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Every time I go for a run on the Mall and see scores of people taking photographs of squirrels, I think "Damnit, this Trump guy really might get elected President."
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Stop running. If you stop running, you won't see people taking pictures of squirrels. If you don't see people taking pictures of squirrels, you won't think of trump. It's really just a simple matter of association.
problem solved.
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Every time I go for a run on the Mall and see scores of people taking photographs of squirrels, I think "Damnit, this Trump guy really might get elected President."
;D
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Every time I go for a run on the Mall and see scores of people taking photographs of squirrels, I think "Damnit, this Trump guy really might get elected President."
instant POTW, strong contender for POTM.
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I hope he wins California!
"Clinton leads by 24 points, with 26% reporting." --> http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/california
clinton takes CA 56% to bernie's 43. so he closed the gap as the night went on but not enough to win.
bernie is set to lay off a bunch of staffers. he hasn't moved anyone to the general election battlefields. the bern is over. bring on trump vs. clinton... wee.
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man sometimes sometimes SOMETIMES...
facepalm
I am an enigma, wrapped in a riddle, surrounded by mystery
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Every time I go for a run on the Mall and see scores of people taking photographs of squirrels, I think "Damnit, this Trump guy really might get elected President."
instant POTW, strong contender for POTM.
+1
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you do realize, there are plenty of people, around the world, who freak out over simple animals that they don't see everyday, and take countless photos of them, with their phones while they are abroad? Americans do it too, in Mongolia and Australia / Nauru and Japan and Idaho / Montana.
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Every time I go for a run on the Mall and see scores of people taking photographs of squirrels, I think "Damnit, this Trump guy really might get elected President."
instant POTW, strong contender for POTM.
Can we get an ongoing tally of POTW/M/Y nominees?
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you do realize, there are plenty of people, around the world, who freak out over simple animals that they don't see everyday, and take countless photos of them, with their phones while they are abroad? Americans do it too, in Mongolia and Australia / Nauru and Japan and Idaho / Montana.
Do those people from all over the world also come to America to purchase monster truck and Bass Pro Shops t-shirts? That seems to be part of the uniform of the squirrel loving masses.
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They, might.
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Every time I go for a run on the Mall and see scores of people taking photographs of squirrels, I think "Damnit, this Trump guy really might get elected President."
instant POTW, strong contender for POTM.
Can we get an ongoing tally of POTW/M/Y nominees?
this would be a task that Julian would love
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for all the Bernie haters out there...while it was really a hail mary of a campaign
but it was still a possibility...
but Hillary did a similar move in 2008 (http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/06/07/us/elections/clinton-sanders-delegate-fight.html?_r=0)
Mrs. Clinton did not leave the race immediately after Mr. Obama passed the threshold of delegates needed to secure the nomination (she waited four days). Like Mr. Sanders, she presented the case that she was the stronger candidate
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for all the Bernie haters out there...while it was really a hail mary of a campaign
but it was still a possibility...
but Hillary did a similar move in 2008 (http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/06/07/us/elections/clinton-sanders-delegate-fight.html?_r=0)
Mrs. Clinton did not leave the race immediately after Mr. Obama passed the threshold of delegates needed to secure the nomination (she waited four days). Like Mr. Sanders, she presented the case that she was the stronger candidate
Hillary was much much closer to Obama than Bernie ever was to Hillary..... Sanders supporters- and the Sanders campaign (for sure Jeff Weaver who is a real first class P R I C K)- lost their grasp on reality after they got whomped in New York... unfortunately Sanders supporters were too stupid to realize what was going on and actually thought the idea of superdelegates overruling the voters was a good idea...is that what you think Sidehatch? I'm not convinced the Sanders campaign has these noble objectives they claim in keeping on... when Sanders and his campaign began talking about how the primaries were rigged etc.. that is very different from anything Hillary ever did.. even the Sanders attacks on Hillary became detached from reality.. things like saying she is not qualified etc..
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I genuinely wonder if Hillary and her people disrespected Sanders.. or maybe he really wants and believed he was entitled to the VP and HRC said no fuckin' way.. otherwise it doesn't make any sense.... before New York the Sanders people seemed to be mellowing out.. things seemed to be heading to their end.. then they freaked... something happened.. the more they lost the crazier they started acting!
I can't believe this is all about the platform.. who gives a shit about the platform. .that stuff is never implemented anyways... or this is all about superdelegates? come on now...
I'm sure somebody on this board knows what happened..
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Hillary was much much closer to Obama than Bernie ever was to Hillary.....
truth
the idea of superdelegates overruling the voters was a good idea...is that what you think Sidehatch?
Huh...I just don't like the whole super delegate thing period, no matter who the candidate
I'm not convinced the Sanders campaign has these noble objectives they claim in keeping on...
I don't agree...
when Sanders and his campaign began talking about how the primaries were rigged etc.. that is very different from anything Hillary ever did..
True, but they were rigged in her favor both times, so not really a fair way to position it
even the Sanders attacks on Hillary became detached from reality.. things like saying she is not qualified etc..
Agreed that was stupid
but the primaries are a little dog eat dog at times
I'm pretty sure 90% of the Bernie supporters will back Hil, he did energize a base of voters (that you seem to malign just about every chance you get...talk about being a prick...) that certainly were not energized by the Hilster
Hopefully the Hillary campaign can find a place for them and I think pulling the Democrats to the left is a good thing
Repubs keep going right...so what to the dems do...go further center, but the repubs never give any ground, so it's never really a compromise the Dems just become less left as time goes on
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I just disagree with the conventional "wisdom"... often
I don't give a ratts butt if every patchouli socialist hipster votes for Hillary or not! I don't want to coddle them or "work hard" to get their vote.. the Michael Moores or Susan Sarandons of the world? I couldn't give a rip.. they will forever be consigned to voting for the Naders, Kucinich's of the world... they don't matter.. are irrelevant..
there are way more votes .. WAY MORE in the middle.. and by people that MIGHT vote for Trump or Hillary.. in other words those votes actually count way more in my book.. the leftist wing of the progressives.. the ones that really loathe her... call her a "monster" etc (they do).. those people , i just have no time for them.. they act as if Hillary needs to try so hard to get them to vote for her.. fuck you.. vote for Trump if you don't like her.. we all know they will not.. either they will hold their nose and vote for Hillary or they will stay home (or vote for the green party or whatever which is the same thing as staying home)... so who should Hillary be targetting? The leftist progressives who will either vote for her or not.. or the far more numerous people in the middle including moderate republicans who won't be able to stomach Trump who WILL either vote for H or Trump?
The answer is obvious.
Sanders really damaged Hillary... I think you are naive not to realize that all his attacks on her regarding Wall Street, or the "release the transcripts" (I mean really! DO you think she went to talk to them and told them they suck? Of course not .. they paid her money and she gave them a nice speech to make them feel good.. so what?)... she is not qualified. .the system was rigged in her favor (this is total bullshit.. but it is true that when you are someone of her stature within a party you do have a bit of an edge.. kind of like a titleholder boxer vs a challenger.. the challenger has to do a bit more... this is why Obama beating Hillary was such an accomplishment.. well Sanders had to do the same but he couldn't get anywhere near.....).. the whole superdelegates thing.. its just so misunderstood... I'm all for getting rid of them but they are not stealing this election for Hillary! SHe won way more pledged delegates and millions more votes.. do Sanders people not get this?
there is this great delusion that there are tens of milions of sanders supporters who won't vote for Hillary.. there just aren't.. what there are, are tens of millions of independents or people who don't bother to participate in either Republican or Democratic primaries.. and these are the people to go after
the problem is that Sanders did tremendous damage to Hillary not with the leftist progressives but with the far more numerous people in the middle that will decide the election...
and your last sentence shows a real misread.. Trump is way more to the left than the conventional Republican so I don't know how you can say they keep going right? The danger in Trump is precisely that on issues like Trade, Foreign Policy he is LEFT of Hillary not like you make it sound that they are farther and farther to the right! and on things like abortion, gays etc Trump couldn't care less about them... so there is more competition for Hillary, potentially , in the center.. yet you want her to move way left .. this is nuts!
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kind of amusing Sidehatch, we look at it completely opposite! gotta go
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the problem is that Sanders did tremendous damage to Hillary not with the leftist progressives but with the far more numerous people in the middle that will decide the election...
and your last sentence shows a real misread.. Trump is way more to the left than the conventional Republican
I agree with that...but I wasn't really talking about trump, but just how the dems are not the same party of the 60s and such...maybe I'm just like the Republicans who long for the Regan era or the 50s
I totally agree with you that the independents are how you win the election
I don't know if I agree with you that anything Sanders said will stick and anyone will remember what he said (other than the RNC will constantly be using the sound bytes I bet)
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kind of amusing Sidehatch, we look at it completely opposite! gotta go
isn't it great to live in a democracy!
and I will certainly concede that I've got some lofty vision of liberalism that the vast majority of the country scoffs at...so could never get elected
Truth be told, you are right on most of these points...I just like to stir it up a bit
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would love to be a fly on the wall at Obama's lunch date today
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oh Sanders speaking now..
I'm optimistic
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Sanders wailing on Trump
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Sanders is strongly in favor of DC statehood
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oh.. threw us a little bone at the end.. will work together with Hillary...
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oh.. threw us a little bone at the end.. will work together with Hillary...
so barack put the choke hold on and made him submit
but he still said reiterated that he would compete in the D.C. primary next Tuesday and take his campaign issues to the July Democratic National Convention
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oh.. threw us a little bone at the end.. will work together with Hillary...
so barack put the choke hold on and made him submit
but he still said reiterated that he would compete in the D.C. primary next Tuesday and take his campaign issues to the July Democratic National Convention
the key is "campaign issues" instead of campaign...
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wow.. looks like while I was away Obama endorsed Hillary...
Chuck Todd was sure he'd wait until after the DC primary...
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I know hutch is going to scream at me...but this made me laugh and cry
(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13339516_1200574073287695_6217950714601589013_n.jpg?oh=6ac04cc20339eda4745d488f2c154f66&oe=5809A877)
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The US political spectrum is very thin..very narrow... there isn't room for dramatic changes...but there is room for adjustments and course corrections....
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(http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.2669523.1465617128!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_750/webtrump11s-web.jpg)
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but, does he.
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(http://image.vam.synacor.com.edgesuite.net/4f/3a/4f3a02fd65d0a88c5f734916fca53c4bd2c7d419/h=300/?app=portal&sig=51bb5d0af651d7aec4a10085af72a45b1861319cd3f8649845ba7095250d4d73)(http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/this-photo-taken-from-iraqi-tv-shows-iraqi-president-saddam-hussein-picture-id97201169)
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but, does he.
maybe, but tbh I'm not sure I can trust a guy who uses a rope as a belt
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There?s a dating site for fans of Donald Trump
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/members-of-trumpsinglescom-are-reluctant-to-show-their-faces-2016-05-24
yes it's real: http://trumpsingles.com/
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so is that where Ratbastard spends all his time now??^
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Trump supporters- some of them- are kind of scary......
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Relaxer...you got to sign up for a profile and give us some updates!
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The funny thing is the website makes it look like its called Rump Singles, so perhaps that should be my tack. Also, I need to update my loverman thread. I'm totally girlfed out now! Can you believe it? Pink-slipped all my other lady friends and everything.
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There?s a dating site for fans of Donald Trump
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/members-of-trumpsinglescom-are-reluctant-to-show-their-faces-2016-05-24
yes it's real: http://trumpsingles.com/
Making Dating Great Again (http://www.maplematch.com/)
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There?s a dating site for fans of Donald Trump
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/members-of-trumpsinglescom-are-reluctant-to-show-their-faces-2016-05-24
yes it's real: http://trumpsingles.com/
Making Dating Great Again (http://www.maplematch.com/)
lol
thanks, but we're all set ;D
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Donald Trump for World President 2016 commercial from Japan
https://www.facebook.com/mikedivaofficial/videos/10153705853032913/
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our nation's politics is making me ill...we seem to be losing sight of the most important word in our name: UNITED.... I notice politics in many other countries also has become a lot more polarized...even countries without much of a terror threat...I wonder if something about the modern world (the internet? the 24-7 news cycle? millenials/gen x?) impacts negatively on our political discourse....
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Happy one year anniversary of the Trump campaign!
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we seem to be losing sight of the most important word in our name: UNITED....
It's a far cry from when the most important word in your home's name was Tina, isn't it?
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we seem to be losing sight of the most important word in our name: UNITED....
It's a far cry from when the most important word in your home's name was Tina, isn't it?
I dont get this..probably missing something....
I was born in San Francisco Children's Hospital.....
I can't help it that my dad was an Argentine diplomat serving there and therefore I'm also a native Argentine citizen by birth..that is the way they do it in the diplomatic corps... but I haven't bothered to renew my Argentine passport or register my kids..
but my own personal history aside the most important word in "Argentina" is Argent of course.. silver... too bad there was no silver...
anyways
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...I wonder if something about the modern world (the internet? the 24-7 news cycle? millenials/gen x?) impacts negatively on our political discourse....
Social media have exposed the serious dearth of critical thinking skills among the rabble. News that comes filtered through the ideology of the media's owners is bad enough. News that comes unfiltered and spreads like fire before someone says "just hold it a sec" isn't any better.
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And news through social media isn't really unfiltered. One's circle of friends and who they follow are self-imposed filters. If you want better news, get better friends.
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I enjoy, how the internet and the effects of it upon us, are now ingrained into our morals and ethical forms of thinking, as a race of things that exist.
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I need some money....
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I need some money....
but you're worth over $10 billion... sure, you've loaned some $40 million to your campaign (to spend a good portion on your own businesses), you just need to up that number. those loans are a thing of beauty, let me tell. everyone who has seen those loans loves them. LOVES them.
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Will this, be the first year of an election, of this magnitude, that isn't controlled or predicted by money?
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How Donald Trump is Going to Quit (http://gawker.com/how-is-donald-trump-going-to-quit-1782312998)
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Hillary on Trump - 'He's written a lot of books on business. Most of them end at Chapter 11.'
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(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--46G3veHm--/ae7uhke1ivyvqpmraufo.gif)
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Hillary on Trump - 'He's written a lot of books on business. Most of them end at Chapter 11.'
^ fatality.
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(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--46G3veHm--/ae7uhke1ivyvqpmraufo.gif)
this is terrifying
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I am so weird when I read the teleprompter... I inhale really deeply and my voice sounds freaky different... that I can tell you...
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Jizztrumpet (http://www.barstoolsports.com/boston/donald-trump-was-the-victim-of-some-vicious-british-insults-which-are-incredible-and-my-new-favorite-thing/)
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmABgmMWIAA9pce.jpg)
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmABgmMWIAA9pce.jpg)
is this paul krugman?
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is this paul krugman?
Yup (https://twitter.com/paulkrugman/status/747599260254871552)
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I enjoy that the first response on his twitter feed, to that post, was "daddy."
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(https://media.giphy.com/media/VNF7YegY0DMwU/giphy.gif)
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Wow, a hundred pages dedicated to this clown. What a waste of time!
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"People say that Trump is an unconventional candidate and that he represents a break from politics as usual. That?s not true. Trump is the culmination of the trends we have been seeing for the last 30 years: the desire for outsiders; the bashing style of rhetoric that makes conversation impossible; the decline of coherent political parties; the declining importance of policy; the tendency to fight cultural battles and identity wars through political means.
Trump represents the path the founders rejected."
from The Governing Cancer of Our Time (http://"http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/26/opinion/the-governing-cancer-of-our-time.html")
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(https://scontent.fphl2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s526x395/13495235_1252338268144399_1304328405726989568_n.jpg?oh=2679c75ec7fe9b7a3166adc74d28073d&oe=57FB020E)
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(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--n2K8Xz3J--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/bcsqud79edzj72ptpvq1.gif)
Rumor: Doctor Prescribes Donald Trump "Cheap Speed" (http://gawker.com/rumor-doctor-prescribes-donald-trump-cheap-speed-1782901680)
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(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13606683_10157793216250377_9215731347781274492_n.jpg?oh=3959c36a4490d647b35061a45ad0d63b&oe=57FD7E64)
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Jim Jefferies on Donald Trump (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CceQISThDYQ)
"Don't be the @$$hole, America"
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Jim Jefferies on Donald Trump (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CceQISThDYQ)
"Don't be the @$$hole, America"
He took a shit ton of flack on twitter for that 25 minutes of more politics and less comedy, but I loved it.
PS: The is is joke is out of context there. He addressed that earlier in the routine.
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Newt Gingrich has somewhat reasonable, not awful take on race (http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-trailguide-updates-1468001199-htmlstory.html)
I don't even know how to understand the confluence of events that led to Newt Gingrich - NEWT GINGRICH!! - saying this. I guess this is his way of passing on the VP nomination without having to actually decline?
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I tend to agree with the Kraut except one thing doesn't add up.. Why did the FBI Director see as necessary to spend 14 minutes telling us all the terrible things Hillary did IF his recommendation was not to prosecute? By doing that he basically undermined his conclusion.... He would have been better served by saying "We examined the case and have determined there is no reason to prosecute..." End of story. Instead he spends 14 minutes outlining all the reasons she should be prosecuted only to decide at the end she should not by letting her off the hook with the "there was no intent.." rejoinder...I guess we'll never know the truth...but I think he did the FBI a great disservice by giving the appearance that they acted in a politically expedient manner....Even as a Hillary supporter I'd have more respect for Comey if he had concluded that there was reason to prosecute based on his 14 minute spiel... or the 14 minutes should have been spent explaining why there was no reason to prosecute..
http://www.investors.com/politics/columnists/charles-krauthammer-why-comey-did-what-he-did/
anybody have any good explanation?
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Because he's a known Republican who has donated to multiple GOP candidates. He was trying to blow her up.
Despite that, many GOP members are acting like he's a Hillary staffer.
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Because he's a known Republican who has donated to multiple GOP candidates. He was trying to blow her up.
Despite that, many GOP members are acting like he's a Hillary staffer.
yeah but if he was trying to blow her up- and that is very possible- why not say there was reason to prosecute?
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I had read elsewhere that Rice and Powell did similar things during their terms. If you prosecute one then you have to prosecute the others, otherwise it's purely for political reasons, though I don't know if the previous secretaries' malfeasance rose to the same level as Clinton's. Also, a conviction would be very difficult to get if Clinton could show that she and/or her staff were misinformed or uninformed about particular regulations and any changes to them (to accommodate new technology, more security, etc.).
Shorter Comey: Dagnabbit, we almost had her!
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?I have many, many black friends. Nice people. My favorite black American woman friend just won Wimbledon??
? Donald Trump (@realDonaldTrump)
?No, no, no. I am not your black American woman friend. Stop saying that. Stop thinking that. Just stop.?
? Serena Williams (@serenawilliams)
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so any bets on VP picks
think this Pence guy has a chance after newt started talking sense about race relations?
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so any bets on VP picks
think this Pence guy has a chance after newt started talking sense about race relations?
I think if he goes with one of four he's publicly floated -- and the possibility for Trump to go total left-field and name someone no one has mentioned is high -- its Pence. Think Newt is out after saying things that are sane and cogent.
Hillary, I'd put 2-1 odds on Tim Kaine, 4-1 on Elizabeth Warren and 10-1 on field.
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I hope Hillary campaign goes with Kaine.... secure VA where she is already holding comfy lead... same in FL (comfy)...
if Hillary wins VA and FL Trump would have to almost run the table including PA and every toss up state BUT NV... think about that.. a very tall order.... the only thing going for him Trump has is the House which in a 269 tie would break his way.... which is why H would need NV and NM is not enough (Unless she can take CD in NE)
but yeah if H can win VA and FL and she looks comfortably up she could lose almost every contested state and still win!
the map is so much in favor of H that it would take a seachange for her to lose if she can secure VA and FL which I think is very realistic.. so if I was her I would pick Kaine...
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I saw Flynn on MOrning JOe.. please lord let him pick Flynn.. very inarticulate... horrible guest... he kept sayin "I beleive" and "I really believe"
terrible
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yeah Kaine has been emailing me as of late, not sure if my spam filter was getting them before
What about Mark Warner for getting VA?
not been floated, but I like the guy
Also...while I think EW is the bee's knees, I think it would not be the best pick?
we have to realize that we are not going for the lefties in the General, we are going for those Eggplants who typically flip a coin to vote for president
I really hope we can get a groundswell this year on getting the vote out
that is probably one of my biggest gripes is how poor turnout is for Democrats
I hope a really big effort is put in to win back house and senate seats
I'd like to think that Trump is really hurting some of those races
I'm hoping that plays to the dems advantage
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the map is so much in favor of H that it would take a seachange for her to lose if she can secure VA and FL which I think is very realistic.. so if I was her I would pick Kaine...
I think Hillary has a better chance of winning Georgia than losing Virginia.
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the map is so much in favor of H that it would take a seachange for her to lose if she can secure VA and FL which I think is very realistic.. so if I was her I would pick Kaine...
I think Hillary has a better chance of winning Georgia than losing Virginia.
all depends on the NoVa turnout
but I agree...don't even think that you can call VA purple anymore...I think it's becoming indigo
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but yeah if H can win VA and FL and she looks comfortably up she could lose almost every contested state and still win!
I'm sure you agree but if Hillary wins VA and FL it speaks to larger national and demographic trends that all but assure she will take 75% of the contested states (i. e. if she takes Va and FL, she's winning Pennsylvania and Nevada by extremely comfortable margins and Ohio by around the amount she takes FL).
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What about Mark Warner for getting VA?
not been floated, but I like the guy
If you would've told me 4 years ago that a former VA governor was getting a VP nom, I would've bet you every cent in my wallet it would've been Warner.
Also...while I think EW is the bee's knees, I think it would not be the best pick?
we have to realize that we are not going for the lefties in the General, we are going for those Eggplants who typically flip a coin to vote for president.
They're get-out-the-vote candidates for different demographic groups. If EW, she's trying to get young, white liberals (i. e. Bernie supporters) out en masse, and if its Tim Kaine, she's trying to tamp down Trumps margin of victory among baby boomer whites while also trying to drive up turnout numbers among Hispanics. Both can play the attack dog role well. Tomato, tomatoe.
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Interesting poll number of the day: Hillary is closer in Mississippi -- MISSISSIPPI!! -- than Trump is in Virginia or Pennsylvania.
Second most interesting poll number of the day: Hillary is within 2% in Georgia, a state that has not voted for a Democrat in a statewide election (aside from Zell Miller) in 24 years.
In other words, the Trump campaign is doing swimmingly.
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Also, we are a week out from the GOP convention and we have NO IDEA who is speaking at this thing. We don't even know the keynote speeches. This is really bizarre.
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In other words, the Trump campaign is doing swimmingly.
is this the kind of swimming you are envisioning
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-HOWSGURVTcw/TeR_Hov7yjI/AAAAAAAAFkY/FiQndN5J1Xc/s1600/Thomas%2BSwimming%2Bpool%2Band%2BConcrete%2BBlocks%2B1992.jpg)
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Also, we are a week out from the GOP convention and we have NO IDEA who is speaking at this thing. We don't even know the keynote speeches. This is really bizarre.
I thought Carson was getting a good billing
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Also, we are a week out from the GOP convention and we have NO IDEA who is speaking at this thing. We don't even know the keynote speeches. This is really bizarre.
I thought Carson was getting a good billing
I didn't hear this. Do we know what day he's speaking?
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Also, we are a week out from the GOP convention and we have NO IDEA who is speaking at this thing. We don't even know the keynote speeches. This is really bizarre.
I thought Carson was getting a good billing
I didn't hear this. Do we know what day he's speaking?
me...I know nothing, but could have sworn I heard pundits talking about that on NPR I think
but the thought is there will be one 'minority' night where they will let African Americans, Latino's and Women get up on the stage...Higly doubt there will be any Muslim or LGBT representation tho
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but yeah if H can win VA and FL and she looks comfortably up she could lose almost every contested state and still win!
I'm sure you agree but if Hillary wins VA and FL it speaks to larger national and demographic trends that all but assure she will take 75% of the contested states (i. e. if she takes Va and FL, she's winning Pennsylvania and Nevada by extremely comfortable margins and Ohio by around the amount she takes FL).
well... I can't be sure of that... I err on the side of caution.. polls coming out of VA and FL show her leading very comfortably..
I guess what I'm saying is even in a worst case scenario if she wins FL and VA she would be in...
as far as Mark Warner.. I cannot beleive you like that guy .. he is AWFUL.. practically a Republican.. .Sidehatch you really need to look into this stuff because the idea you can like Bernie and Mark Warner is pretty laughable... I mean WTF? Also, Warner gave the worst Democratic Convention speech I can recall... he is just awful.
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I feel strong dislike for Mark Warner in case it wasn't clear.... he's permanently talking about compromise compromise compromise.. and NEVER gets anything actually done.
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And I don't know.. I would have to see the demographics for VA and FL vs PA
yes PA has gone blue for a long time.. but VA and FL have far more hispanics coming in... also VA and FL have less of a "rust belty" feel to them.... the western half of PA might as well be OH.. also VA and FL- don't quote me on this- have had pretty dynamic job pictures.. how is PA doing?
at this point - at least in the polls for whatever they're worth- HRC lead in VA and FL is nearly double that in PA...
of course once they get done digging up the dead bodies in Philly.....and remember that Trump did fairly poor in VA primary.. yes he won but with barely 30%!
as far as FL you have Jeb Bush , Rubio .. even the Miami mayor is on record that he will not vote for Trump.. the Cuban American republicans who usually go Republican- a lot of them are on record saying they will not vote for Trump.... add the half million new Puerto Ricans in FL.. geez, its not a pretty picture for Trump down there...
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as far as Mark Warner.. I cannot beleive you like that guy .. he is AWFUL.. practically a Republican.. .
I didn't say I liked the guy. He's a centrist, extremely popular former Governor of a swing state. He is far more charismatic than Tim Kaine. I'm kind of surprised Kaine has had the national career he had, he always seemed like he got elected (Governor) basically because VA couldn't elect Warner again.
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as far as Mark Warner.. I cannot beleive you like that guy .. he is AWFUL.. practically a Republican.. .
I didn't say I liked the guy. He's a centrist, extremely popular former Governor of a swing state. He is far more charismatic than Tim Kaine. I'm kind of surprised Kaine has had the national career he had, he always seemed like he got elected (Governor) basically because VA couldn't elect Warner again.
no way.. he is not far more charismatic and he is NOT liked.. you're just not doing your homework dude.. he barely got reelected! go check out the results
dude I love you but its like you don't know what you're talking about
http://augustafreepress.com/toocloseforcomfort-mark-warner-wins-senate-re-election-razor-thin-margin/
he BARELY won in an election where the Republican money abandoned Gillespie cause they thought he could not win!
How can you not remember this? were you not in VA?
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yes PA has gone blue for a long time.. but VA and FL have far more hispanics coming in... also VA and FL have less of a "rust belty" feel to them.... the western half of PA might as well be OH.. also VA and FL- don't quote me on this- have had pretty dynamic job pictures.. how is PA doing?
at this point - at least in the polls for whatever they're worth- HRC lead in VA and FL is nearly double that in PA...
I suppose it's possible Hillary wins VA and FL and loses PA but I'd put the odds on at that around 5%. It would take a weird confluence of events.
But I maintain wins in FL and VA portend well in NH, AZ, CO, NV (and to a lesser extent NC and MO) and it would be virtually impossible for her to take those and strike out on ALL the other swing states and not win. Which, again, you obviously agree with.
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yes PA has gone blue for a long time.. but VA and FL have far more hispanics coming in... also VA and FL have less of a "rust belty" feel to them.... the western half of PA might as well be OH.. also VA and FL- don't quote me on this- have had pretty dynamic job pictures.. how is PA doing?
at this point - at least in the polls for whatever they're worth- HRC lead in VA and FL is nearly double that in PA...
I suppose it's possible Hillary wins VA and FL and loses PA but I'd put the odds on at that around 5%. It would take a weird confluence of events.
But I maintain wins in FL and VA portend well in NH, AZ, CO, NV (and to a lesser extent NC and MO) and it would be virtually impossible for her to take those and strike out on ALL the other swing states and not win. Which, again, you obviously agree with.
yes I agree... she is in a great position.. she should wipe the floor with him in the debates.. barring any unforeseen issues she should win comfortably..
I'm upping my forecast to 80% odds Hillary wins.... I started with 66%.....
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also jobs jobs jobs.. the 300,000 jobs created in June.. big..... in an ideal world the Fed does not hike interest rates.. stock markets keeps going up... economy lets say creates another million jobs (maybe 700K if cautious)...
its just hard to imagine her losing in this scenario.....
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as far as Mark Warner.. I cannot beleive you like that guy .. he is AWFUL.. practically a Republican.. .
I didn't say I liked the guy. He's a centrist, extremely popular former Governor of a swing state. He is far more charismatic than Tim Kaine. I'm kind of surprised Kaine has had the national career he had, he always seemed like he got elected (Governor) basically because VA couldn't elect Warner again.
no way.. he is not far more charismatic and he is NOT liked.. you're just not doing your homework dude.. he barely got reelected! go check out the results
dude I love you but its like you don't know what you're talking about
http://augustafreepress.com/toocloseforcomfort-mark-warner-wins-senate-re-election-razor-thin-margin/
he BARELY won in an election where the Republican money abandoned Gillespie cause they thought he could not win!
How can you not remember this? were you not in VA?
That election as a whole was a bloodbath for Democrats. Things were not trending well for Dems as a whole and that hurt Warner. Look at his whole tenure. He left the governorship with a 70+% approval rating after a tenure hanging around 80%. He won in '08 with 65% of the vote. I get you don't like the guy (which is fine, I'm not a Mark Warner fanboy) but to act like he's not the most liked (current) politician in the state of Virginia is absurd.
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as far as Mark Warner.. I cannot beleive you like that guy .. he is AWFUL.. practically a Republican.. .
I didn't say I liked the guy. He's a centrist, extremely popular former Governor of a swing state. He is far more charismatic than Tim Kaine. I'm kind of surprised Kaine has had the national career he had, he always seemed like he got elected (Governor) basically because VA couldn't elect Warner again.
no way.. he is not far more charismatic and he is NOT liked.. you're just not doing your homework dude.. he barely got reelected! go check out the results
dude I love you but its like you don't know what you're talking about
http://augustafreepress.com/toocloseforcomfort-mark-warner-wins-senate-re-election-razor-thin-margin/
he BARELY won in an election where the Republican money abandoned Gillespie cause they thought he could not win!
How can you not remember this? were you not in VA?
That election as a whole was a bloodbath for Democrats. Things were not trending well for Dems as a whole and that hurt Warner. Look at his whole tenure. He left the governorship with a 70+% approval rating after a tenure hanging around 80%. He won in '08 with 65% of the vote. I get you don't like the guy (which is fine, I'm not a Mark Warner fanboy) but to act like he's not the most liked (current) politician in the state of Virginia is absurd.
it was a bloodbath. that is true...
but Gillespie was a pretty weak candidate.. I think Warner's stock has dropped more than you acknowledge.. he went from being a VP candidate to struggling to keep his job.... the State is changing... VA elected Mcauliffe (sic) for pete's sake...even if grudgingly...
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I think Warner's stock has dropped more than you acknowledge.. he went from being a VP candidate to struggling to keep his job....
I agree it dropped. I also maintain if he decided he wanted the governorship back next year, he wins with 60+% of vote and the Republicans run a Creigh-Deeds-esque lamb to the slaughter candidate against him.
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.. practically a Republican.. .
well that's why he'd pull the independents
but Mark Warner is a Centrist.
still pretty left for your standard GOP'er
Support Roe v. Wade,
Switched to supporting same-sex marriage in 2013. (Jul 2014)
Supports affirmative action,
Eliminated Family Rule, so unrelated couples can buy homes.
End racial profiling; more minority police.
Extend hate crimes to include sexual orientation
Voted YES on reauthorizing the Violence Against Women Act.
No school prayer amendment
Mandatory arrest upon evidence of domestic violence. (Nov 2001)
More funding & services for victims of domestic violence
Voted YES on providing a US House seat for the District of Columbia.
Supports line-item veto
this may not be liberal, but I support this:
Voted YES on instituting National Service as a new social invention
Reasons I don't love him
he is a fiscal conservative( but he did close the largest budget shortfall in Virginia?s history. ( 2004) )
supports 'fair' death penalty?
in 96 he Increase penalties for illegal drugs
Strong defender of the Second Amendment.
Voted NO on banning high-capacity magazines of over 10 bullets
I wouldn't say I hate free trade like you keep spewing
but Warner Supports NAFTA, GATT, and WTO
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A body-language expert would have a field day with that awkward as fuck Bernie Sanders/Hillary Clinton joint event/endorsement announcement.
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Bernie Sanders/Hillary Clinton joint
they really should have shared one prior to taking the stage
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GOP Speaker list:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnUfmynW8AAEtRO.jpg)
Supposedly one entire day will be based around Benghazi. Mixed feelings on Brock Mealer being on there. Tim Tebow is the most Trump GOP Convention thing ever and I now list Tebow at 9-1 odds as the VP.
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i'm not seeing tebow there... am i missing something?
trump has got his 4 kids speaking along with his wife. truly a family business.
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i'm not seeing tebow there... am i missing something?
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/14/us/politics/republican-convention-speakers-donald-trump.html
trump has got his 4 kids speaking along with his wife. truly a family business.
Gotta promote the Trump brand above all else.
Interesting for those following Veepstakes that Pence is not mentioned on any speaker list.
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Interesting for those following Veepstakes that Pence is not mentioned on any speaker list.
Politico is reporting Pence's re-election campaign (for Governor of Indiana) has just bought ad time in August. Starting to look like he's out of the Veepstakes, but this could all be misdirection, I suppose.
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its tough to say.... Pence is definitely the media/establishment/conservative appeal pick.. but is it the Trump pick? It seems almost too conventional and boring..
We should know within 24 hours...
I have to say 95% of Americans have never heard of him until now...
I thought that when Christie endorsed him so early maybe they had worked something out and he would be the VP.. I mean Christie endorsing him was a big deal.... Bill Kristol who tends to get everything wrong is picking Christie as the choice so that probably means he is a no go...
I'm rooting for Gingrich or Christie.. I think they both carry big negatives that could be exploited....
but based on what I hear I am thinking it will be Pence.... having his family fly out to Indiana and have dinner and breakfast with him seems like a big clue.... also you know Manafort is doing everything he can to get Pence....
Personally I find Pence a fairly underwhelming choice... and if I was in Trump's shoes I would probably pick Gingrich (that is not to say I like Newt...)
Also its not a given Pence would take the gig.. he's pretty much guaranteed to be the next Gov of Indiana.. he has to know Trump's chances are not that good...
I think of Trump and how he probably thinks: he might be thinking.. look-y my polls are up.. I don't need to do what they are telling me to do (pick Pence)... I can do whatever I want....
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According to Politico, Trump's actual staffers want Pence while Trump wants more of an attack dog like Christie or Newt. Staffers feel Newt will be particularly difficult to keep on message.
There's also the subplot that Trump's son-in-law is pretty much the de facto campaign manager at this point and his dad was prosecuted by Christie so there's some bad blood there.
I also thought it was Pence up until he was left off the GOP speaker list (which, again, could be misdirection) while Newt and Christie are both scheduled for day 3 (the traditional VP speech day). That alone could've been construed either way but you combine it with Pence buying re-election airspace this morning and it makes me think Pence has been told it won't be him.
Trump has said we'll know tomorrow. If I had to guess, I'd say its Christie. Current Julian Odds:
Christie 3-1
Newt 4-1
Pence 8-1
Tebow 9-1
Sessions 20-1
Field 50-1
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Also its not a given Pence would take the gig.. he's pretty much guaranteed to be the next Gov of Indiana.. he has to know Trump's chances are not that good...
I feel like Trump wouldn't be publicly vetting him without a back-channel understanding in place he'd accept if offered. Well, actually let me walk that back: I feel like a no politician in their right mind would do that. Trump is clearly playing from his own set of rules.
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Its kind of interesting the two conventions being only a few days apart. When does Hillary strategically name her VP choice to minimize Trump's convention "bump"? Do you go (next) Friday morning as soon as the GOP closes? Wait until the Monday after? Do you go 8pm on Thursday splitting coverage of Trump's keynote? Does she go tomorrow too? Interesting to think about.
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Its kind of interesting the two conventions being only a few days apart. When does Hillary strategically name her VP choice to minimize Trump's convention "bump"? Do you go (next) Friday morning as soon as the GOP closes? Wait until the Monday after? Do you go 8pm on Thursday splitting coverage of Trump's keynote? Does she go tomorrow too? Interesting to think about.
yeah this is a real tough one... part of what makes it tough is if it is Kaine its going to be very ho-hum underwhelming.... if it was Warren it would be BOOM... of course it won't be Warren...
I think if I was her I would at least consider announcing it at the convention ... because, whatever she does, next weekend is all going to be about the Trump convention that just happened, right?
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yeah this is a real tough one... part of what makes it tough is if it is Kaine its going to be very ho-hum underwhelming.... if it was Warren it would be BOOM... of course it won't be Warren...
I think if I was her I would at least consider announcing it at the convention ... because, whatever she does, next weekend is all going to be about the Trump convention that just happened, right?
Yeah I have to think Trump is going to say something so crazy that it dominates the Friday thru Sunday coverage.
If Hillary wants a BOOM all she has to do is
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Go open convention for the VP spot and get Warren, Biden, and Kaine's names entered into the vote through trusted agents. Biden would quickly backchannel kill his own nomination and let it play out between the other two. The political theater would be phenomenal. (And I think if she actually legitimately has a strong preference, she could backchannel the vote however she wanted it.) Tim Kaine getting the VP slot in a "contested" convention is a BOOM.
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Roll Call is reporting staffers have been told it is Pence.
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trump... pence... trump pence... trumpence...
"they'll get their just trumpence!"
"the trumpence originating from the brass section of the orchestra pit was unbearable"
"some people suffer from flattulence - he has trumpence!"
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Sick Pence None the Trumper
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trumpence
Its a perfectly cromulent word.
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GOP Speaker list:.
Peter Thiel ?!
no sarah palin...blerg, she is always good for the laughs (at her, not with her)
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no sarah palin...blerg, she is always good for the laughs (at her, not with her)
Trump loves him some Sarah Palin but Alaska is, you know, a long ways away (http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/trump-sarah-palin-republican-convention-225541).
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trumpence
Its a perfectly cromulent word.
damn you. you made me look up "cromulent", and i'm now no more knowledgeable of its meaning then before my search. damn you to hell!
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Hooray for an old Simpsons reference.
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Political suicide for Pence, but I suspect he'll cash in via rolling it into a Fox News gig.
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Supposedly one entire day will be based around Benghazi. Mixed feelings on Brock Mealer being on there. Tim Tebow is the most Trump GOP Convention thing ever and I now list Tebow at 9-1 odds as the VP.
If he was going to pick at athlete, I would have put my money on Wall.
Now to figure out a good rhyme joke for Pence and fence.
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MINCE PENCE; DUMP TRUMP!
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Spotted in Cleveland:
(http://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/scalefit_630_noupscale/5787c5271a00002700dd15e1.jpeg)
Let the fun begin.
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Political suicide for Pence,
Have you seen the latest polls in Indiana? There's no assurance the guy was going to win re-election anyway. Dude isn't exactly throwing away a sure-fire decade of future relevance on this flier.
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I don't know anything about Pence but he does not seem as bad a choice as I was hoping for....what is it with Indiana? They have the world's most boring politicians: Bayh, Daniels and now Pence...
It is a bit of a choice made from a position of weakness though.. needs to shore up his position with the party faithful and the establishment...
If I had been Trump I would have been desperate to find a woman for VP...any woman...
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trumpence
Its a perfectly cromulent word.
damn you. you made me look up "cromulent", and i'm now no more knowledgeable of its meaning then before my search. damn you to hell!
I bet you feel pretty embiggened now though.
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I don't know anything about Pence but he does not seem as bad a choice as I was hoping for....
Might help Trump with conservative turnout. 538 is calling him the "most conservative VP candidate" since 1976. Definitely doesn't seem as prone to gaffs as Christie or Newt. Hillary can definitely make some hay with his "religious freedom" legislation in Indiana.
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trumpence
Its a perfectly cromulent word.
damn you. you made me look up "cromulent", and i'm now no more knowledgeable of its meaning then before my search. damn you to hell!
I bet you feel pretty embiggened now though.
Embiggened like a horse.
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Might help Trump with conservative turnout.
It's the only strategy and has been the losing strategy in the last two elections. The idea is Trump can bring out new voters who have never voted before and Pence can shore up the Republican base.
Of course, elections are won in the middle and only in a handful of states so I just don't see it.
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looks like Pence is confirmed...because he was spotted at airport leaving for New Jersey a few minutes ago.....
man.. very low entertainment value on this pick...
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Announcement postponed due to attack in Nice.
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Interesting.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2016/07/14/refugees-europe-say-they-fear-terrorists-among-them/87008334/
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Tim Tebow is not speaking at GOP convention and says he has no idea why the Trump campaign thought he was.
I maintain he was informed yesterday he was not getting the VP nod and is butthurt over it.
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oh, that tim.
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Tim Tebow is not speaking at GOP convention and says he has no idea why the Trump campaign thought he was.
He's not speaking because he is merely Tebowing.
(https://especialtees.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/iheart-tebow-white-on-black.png)
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Pence is Donald Trump's VP pick
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Pence is Donald Trump's VP pick
Welcome to 24 hours ago.
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Pence is Donald Trump's VP pick
Welcome to 24 hours ago.
was speculation then...wasn't confirmed to the news outlets until about 45 mins ago
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Pence is Donald Trump's VP pick
Welcome to 24 hours ago.
was speculation then...wasn't confirmed to the news outlets until about 45 mins ago
If Roll Call (part of the Economist group) calls it, it's most certainly not speculation at that point, but whatever.
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I still, want ivanka. the best choice, all around, for him.
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I still, want ivanka. the best choice, all around, for him.
I was pretty hyped about my Tebow-for-VP pipedream.
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brings nothing, except dat body.
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I'm bummed about Newt not getting the nod... I was sure after last night's obvious pandering he'd get it..
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brings nothing, except dat body.
"Tebow is six feet three and 245 pounds, all thick polygons and smooth flat planes and inescapable corn-fed handsomeness. He's wearing a billowy white shirt and loose-fitting jeans that somehow only underscore the solidity of his bulk, like a tarpaulin draped over a concrete pylon."
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are we talking about this guy?
(http://media2.fdncms.com/riverfronttimes/imager/u/original/2574236/tim_tebow.jpg)
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he's . . . gay hot. not sure about straight hotness, but definite up dat gay alley.
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so any bets on VP picks
think this Pence guy has a chance after newt started talking sense about race relations?
well that didn't last long
Gingrich calls for deportation tests of everyone with a 'Muslim background'
(http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/newt-gingrich-muslims-deportation-tests-225589)
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he's . . . gay hot. not sure about straight hotness, but definite up dat gay alley.
crocs and all
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so any bets on VP picks
think this Pence guy has a chance after newt started talking sense about race relations?
well that didn't last long
Gingrich calls for deportation tests of everyone with a 'Muslim background'
(http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/newt-gingrich-muslims-deportation-tests-225589)
Except that (the heading you gave your link) is not what he said.
What he said is he would deport anybody who is in favor of sharia law, as it is incompatible with our belief system here. Any Muslim who doesn't believe in sharia law, he would be happy to have as his neighbor.
I agree with him 100%.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnatsP3WcAAc4uE.jpg:large)
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And now Trump makes the outrageous and completely unfounded claim that Black Lives Matter and other activists held a moment of silence for Micah Johnson, the murderer of the Dallas policemen. ?The other night you had 11 cities potentially in a blow-up stage,? Trump lied to an Indiana rally on Wednesday. ?Marches all over the United States ? and tough marches. Anger. Hatred. Hatred! Started by a maniac! And some people ask for a moment of silence for him. For the killer!?
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these poll numbers are really not comforting...but not sure how the electoral college works into this
CBS News/NY Times 7/8 - 7/12 1358 RV 3.0 40 40 Tie
Rasmussen Reports 7/12 - 7/13 1000 LV 3.0 37 44 Trump +7
Economist/YouGov 7/9 - 7/11 932 RV 4.5 45 43 Clinton +2
McClatchy/Marist 7/5 - 7/9 1053 RV 3.0 42 39 Clinton +3
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so any bets on VP picks
think this Pence guy has a chance after newt started talking sense about race relations?
well that didn't last long
Gingrich calls for deportation tests of everyone with a 'Muslim background'
(http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/newt-gingrich-muslims-deportation-tests-225589)
Except that (the heading you gave your link) is not what he said.
What he said is he would deport anybody who is in favor of sharia law, as it is incompatible with our belief system here. Any Muslim who doesn't believe in sharia law, he would be happy to have as his neighbor.
I agree with him 100%.
In your own words, define "sharia law".
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lovely as a summer day
distant as the milky way
pretty little one that i adore
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so any bets on VP picks
think this Pence guy has a chance after newt started talking sense about race relations?
well that didn't last long
Gingrich calls for deportation tests of everyone with a 'Muslim background'
(http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/newt-gingrich-muslims-deportation-tests-225589)
Except that (the heading you gave your link) is not what he said.
What he said is he would deport anybody who is in favor of sharia law, as it is incompatible with our belief system here. Any Muslim who doesn't believe in sharia law, he would be happy to have as his neighbor.
I agree with him 100%.
In your own words, define "sharia law".
And also how do we test if someone believes in Sharia Law? "Dear Muslim, do you believe in Sharia Law?" "No I do not." "OK guys, checks outs, hes good."
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these poll numbers are really not comforting...but not sure how the electoral college works into this
CBS News/NY Times 7/8 - 7/12 1358 RV 3.0 40 40 Tie
Rasmussen Reports 7/12 - 7/13 1000 LV 3.0 37 44 Trump +7
Economist/YouGov 7/9 - 7/11 932 RV 4.5 45 43 Clinton +2
McClatchy/Marist 7/5 - 7/9 1053 RV 3.0 42 39 Clinton +3
I will wait til one week after democratic convention and then look at polls.. at this point they are all over the place and I think there is a bit of a temporary Comey hangover...
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fascinating.. CNN is reporting Trump tried to get out of Pence at midnight last night and was told he couldn't...
Trump would have done much better to trust himself and picked who he wanted regardless...by all accounts would have been Chris Christie...
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so any bets on VP picks
think this Pence guy has a chance after newt started talking sense about race relations?
well that didn't last long
Gingrich calls for deportation tests of everyone with a 'Muslim background'
(http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/newt-gingrich-muslims-deportation-tests-225589)
Except that (the heading you gave your link) is not what he said.
What he said is he would deport anybody who is in favor of sharia law, as it is incompatible with our belief system here. Any Muslim who doesn't believe in sharia law, he would be happy to have as his neighbor.
I agree with him 100%.
In your own words, define "sharia law".
And also how do we test if someone believes in Sharia Law? "Dear Muslim, do you believe in Sharia Law?" "No I do not." "OK guys, checks outs, hes good."
I said I agreed with what he said. I didn't say I had a feasible test to carry through with what he said. There probably is none.
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fascinating.. CNN is reporting Trump tried to get out of Pence at midnight last night and was told he couldn't...
Hysterical if true.
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I heard an interesting stat on right wing talk radio the other day... number of Nobel Prizes that have gone to muslims: 7. Number of Nobel Prizes that have gone to jews: +1200
number of muslims in world: +1.2 billion.. number of jews in world: +40 million
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I heard an interesting stat on right wing talk radio the other day... number of Nobel Prizes that have gone to muslims: 7. Number of Nobel Prizes that have gone to jews: +1200
number of muslims in world: +1.2 billion.. number of jews in world: +40 million
Wow, the prize committee must be totally "racist". LOL.
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I heard an interesting stat on right wing talk radio the other day... number of Nobel Prizes that have gone to muslims: 7. Number of Nobel Prizes that have gone to jews: +1200
number of muslims in world: +1.2 billion.. number of jews in world: +40 million
Wow, the prize committee must be totally "racist". LOL.
I don't know the reasons per se... just found it startling...
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I heard an interesting stat on right wing talk radio the other day... number of Nobel Prizes that have gone to muslims: 7. Number of Nobel Prizes that have gone to jews: +1200
number of muslims in world: +1.2 billion.. number of jews in world: +40 million
Wow, the prize committee must be totally "racist". LOL.
I don't know the reasons per se... just found it startling...
I realize they give out Nobel Prizes to more than just science recipients, but if you want to limit the topic of discussion to science, here's a pretty reasoned analysis:
Why are there so few Muslim Nobel Laureates in sciences?
https://www.quora.com/Why-are-there-so-few-Muslim-Nobel-Laureates-in-sciences
Here's another good article:
Why Muslims have only few Nobel Prizes
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/why-muslims-have-only-few-nobel-prizes.aspx?pageID=449&nID=52473&NewsCatID=411
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fascinating.. CNN is reporting Trump tried to get out of Pence at midnight last night and was told he couldn't...
Hysterical if true.
Especially as Pence had to be off the Indiana Ballot by noon today. And he is.
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(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/39391/tp_logo.gif)
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^that is an awesome gif!
so Bill Maher is covering the convention on wed/thursday ;D
I also read that beardy McOld guy: Jon Stewart to Join Stephen Colbert on 'The Late Show' for the Republican National Convention
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I was looking at the electoral votes map... I had not realized that due to the 2010 census numbers Republicans automatically get another 8 electoral votes: Texas added 4, Utah 1, South Carolina 1, Georgia 1, Arizona 1...
meanwhile on the D side all they get is +1 Nevada (which is almost a toss up) and +1 Washington
and Texas growth just keeps booming so in the 2020 census they will probably gain another 3!
kinda interesting for all the talk about demographic change favoring democrats it is not quite as clear cut as that...
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I was looking at the electoral votes map... I had not realized that due to the 2010 census numbers Republicans automatically get another 8 electoral votes
wow, didn't know that either and significant
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I was looking at the electoral votes map... I had not realized that due to the 2010 census numbers Republicans automatically get another 8 electoral votes: Texas added 4, Utah 1, South Carolina 1, Georgia 1, Arizona 1...
At least in this election, Utah, Georgia, and Arizona are not GOP locks. I agree with your larger point, however.
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if like me you didn't watch trump's intro of pence as his VP, this is a must-read:
Donald Trump?s speech introducing Mike Pence showed why he shouldn?t be president (http://www.vox.com/2016/7/16/12205878/donald-trump-mike-pence-vp-speech)
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if like me you didn't watch trump's intro of pence as his VP, this is a must-read:
It was painful. As was their 60 Minutes piece last night.
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As was their 60 Minutes piece last night.
speaking of, here are the (left-wing) cliff notes:
6 Bizarro Moments from Trump's '60 Minutes' Interview (http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/6-bizarro-moments-trumps-60-minutes-interview-nice-turkey-isis-and-his-humility)
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Iand Texas growth just keeps booming so in the 2020 census they will probably gain another 3!
kinda interesting for all the talk about demographic change favoring democrats it is not quite as clear cut as that...
Texas by 2020, 2024 at the latest will be a purple state. The largest demographic change in TX is Hispanic, and by a large margin. This might not impact state politics in TX for sometime, but national politics, given the direction of messaging from 2008-2016 will make TX a blue state by the 2028 election unless the R's dramatically change course.
(http://www.npr.org/news/graphics/2013/07/hispanic-projections.jpg)
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Iand Texas growth just keeps booming so in the 2020 census they will probably gain another 3!
kinda interesting for all the talk about demographic change favoring democrats it is not quite as clear cut as that...
Texas by 2020, 2024 at the latest will be a purple state. The largest demographic change in TX is Hispanic, and by a large margin. This might not impact state politics in TX for sometime, but national politics, given the direction of messaging from 2008-2016 will make TX a blue state by the 2028 election unless the R's dramatically change course.
(http://www.npr.org/news/graphics/2013/07/hispanic-projections.jpg)
I'm not sure Texas hispanics are like others... remember a ton of Texas hispanics have been there since before the Texans...they would typically be classified as "hispanic" but.....
I dunno.. just a thought...
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I'm not sure Texas hispanics are like others...
There is something to that sentiment. While Texas hispanics still vote predominantly Democrat, PolitiFact (http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2013/jun/04/karl-rove/karl-rove-says-republicans-running-texas-draw-40-p/) points out the GOP percentage of the Hispanic vote in Texas is higher than the nationwide GOP average (. . . with the obvious proviso that the GOP/Trumpian view on immigration -- a hot button issue with Hispanics -- being a relatively new position that we do not have multiple election cycles of polling data on.)
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Even for Trump his comments regarding the President's words on the cop massacre in Baton Rouge are really appalling..
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There is something to that sentiment.
As I said, it will take a while for State politics (Texas R's do well, especially with Hispanic last names), taking special account for the re-districting attempting to thwart their rise. Don't let Rove's abstract on local politicians and statewide races distract from the discussion on the General Election.
In National Elections, the decline is steep and while the population increases, the decline has a larger impact on the State's Electoral College:
2000: Bush 49%
2004: Bush 49%
(2006 Immigration debate truly started)
2008: McCain 35%
2012: Romney 29%
Population of Voting Age Hispanics:
2012: 4.2m
2016: 4.8m (and 33% are 18-25, while 60% of eligible whites are 45 or older)
Democrats need to focus on one thing - turnout. Republicans have a number of things to fix = we saw this in CA in 1994 after Prop 187, effectively turning the state into a Supermajortiy Dem state with bad policy targeting Hispanics.
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I chuckled today when I thought Hutch had the screen names of the two of the people who spoke at the RNC
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melania = michelle
https://twitter.com/mikehearn/status/755260215021432832 (turn on your sound)
this is getting so surreal.
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melania = michelle
https://twitter.com/mikehearn/status/755260215021432832 (turn on your sound)
this is getting so surreal.
yup.. pretty amazing stuff.. you can't make this shit up...
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I was busy watching Raylan Givens disarm Robert Quarles in the Season 3 finale of Justified and missed the whole thing.
What I really want to know was how was Chachi's speech? Did he crib the whole thing from an old Fonzie speech?
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Omarosa Named Trump?s Director of African-American Outreach
shit just keeps getting weirder
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file this under: if we say it enough times, people will believe it's true (even though it's not)
Antonio Sabato Jr., an actor who spoke the first night of the Republican National Convention, told ABC News after his speech that Obama is "absolutely" a Muslim.
"I don't believe the guy is a Christian," Sabato said. "He has never talked about Jesus Christ once."
"We had a Muslim president for seven and half years," Sabato added.
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alternative tentacles "Nazi trumps fuck off" t-shirts now available
http://www.alternativetentacles.com/product.php?product=2279&sd=E7-cPCdoI9A8k403iWZ
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Update...here is the actual shirt for sale by alt tentacles
with Jello sporting it
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alternative tentacles "Nazi trumps fuck off" t-shirts now available
http://www.alternativetentacles.com/product.php?product=2279&sd=E7-cPCdoI9A8k403iWZ
perfect
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Have you all seen the one from Municipal Waste?
(http://assets.noisey.com/content-images/contentimage/80861/mnw147.jpg)
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My friend's band put out this shirt:
(https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s526x395/13450933_1064728280272951_1978764035475318385_n.png?oh=773791979bc8d3eae47b2060817536c6&oe=57F0D161)
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funny comment from FB: "Is #blackspeechesmatter a thing yet?"
and:
Did Melania Trump include a Rickroll in the middle of her convention speech? (http://www.vox.com/2016/7/19/12221654/melania-trump-rickroll)
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something that isn't getting enough coverage IMO:
http://US Rep. Steve King preaches literal white supremacy on national television (http://www.vox.com/2016/7/18/12218672/steve-king-racist-ignorant)
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something that isn't getting enough coverage IMO:
http://US Rep. Steve King preaches literal white supremacy on national television (http://www.vox.com/2016/7/18/12218672/steve-king-racist-ignorant)
This one is definitely the biggest piece of proof that Mr. King is wrong.
Jesus was possibly brown.
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the great thing about the trump campaign is just when you think they've hit rock bottom, you're wrong.
before her speech last night, melania was interviewed on trump's plane and said that she had written the speech herself with as little help as possible (go to 1:10) (http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc-news/watch/exclusive-the-trumps-speak-with-matt-lauer-727480899958).
24 hours later, sh*t hits the fan re: plagiarism, and the trump campaign posts this (https://www.facebook.com/MelaniaTrump/photos/a.326834337807.150917.263486007807/10154276539242808/) - "team of writers."
and remember that part about being wrong about hitting bottom? Manafort blames hillary! (http://www.vox.com/2016/7/19/12222276/melania-trump-plagarism-clinton-rnc)
i don't expect this to be the last of this... can't wait!
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Several people pointed on twitter that the plagiarism claim is what's going to dominate today's news cycle and not the other crazy stuff being said last night..
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Several people pointed on twitter that the plagiarism claim is what's going to dominate today's news cycle and not the other crazy stuff being said last night..
yup, like King's white supremacist statement...
great diversionary tactic!
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this feels like the Reagan era, all over again. I am sure there is this underground post punk/classic rock/edm/blues/country/hiphop movement going on in music, that I have no clue about, that in twenty years, will be seen as revolutionary.
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The Wørd: Trumpiness (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqOTxl3Bsbw)
the re-emergence of classic colbert almost makes this whole sh*t-show worthwhile. almost.
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Donald Trump?s 60 Minutes interview left me wondering if he even wants to be president (http://"http://www.vox.com/2016/7/18/12215214/donald-trump-mike-pence-60-minutes")
"Trump is getting obvious questions, and he?s not even pretending to have answers. It?s like he?s not even trying."
(given that his supporters might not even care what he says, why would he bother trying...)
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great diversionary tactic!
It really is too bad because we should be talking about the RickRoll.
As a speech writer, I had to tip my cap. Then throw up in it.
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Donald Trump?s 60 Minutes interview left me wondering if he even wants to be president (http://"http://www.vox.com/2016/7/18/12215214/donald-trump-mike-pence-60-minutes")
"Trump is getting obvious questions, and he?s not even pretending to have answers. It?s like he?s not even trying."
(given that his supporters might not even care what he says, why would he bother trying...)
I could honestly see him pull out of the race in October if he's down 5+ points and use the excuse he didn't want to put his family through "crooked Hillary's character attacks" or some bull. He's pure egotism; I don't honestly believe he actively wants to be President of the US.
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He's pure egotism; I don't honestly believe he actively wants to be President of the US.
agreed...this is all brand promotion...at the expense of the GOP party
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oh I don't know.. I think he really wants to be elected president...but, yeah, sometimes it looks almost intentional...
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oh I don't know.. I think he really wants to be elected president...but, yeah, sometimes it looks almost intentional...
I think he would like to be elected President. I don't think he actually wants to be President. I highly suspect his narcissism will not actually allow him to lose an election.
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oh I don't know.. I think he really wants to be elected president...but, yeah, sometimes it looks almost intentional...
I think he would like to be elected President. I don't think he actually wants to be President. I highly suspect his narcissism will not actually allow him to lose an election.
but if you think about it "being President" as far as he sees it is the dream job.. you're #1 and everyone has to kiss your ass....
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man only a day after the logo is public...they removed it
because by Saturday morning the logo had completely vanished. Trump and his conservative minions had scrubbed the image. (http://www.addictinginfo.org/2016/07/16/trumps-logo-failed-so-miserably-he-removed-all-trace-of-it-after-only-one-day-of-mockery/)
They are really losing the media game as of late
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love the Coachella rif
but they did get the dates way off??
everything else is spot on
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cnvdq5sXYAAiQJN.jpg:large)
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kinda wish this was real....I posted the one with FAKE on it so there was no question
(http://www.snopes.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/snow-mexicans-trump.jpg)
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It is truly amazing and kind of maddening to hear people like RNC Spokestooge Sean Spicer arguing it was not plagiarism... I mean I don't really care all that much but they sound like lunatics.. even the Fox news interviewer (Shepard whatever is his name) seems stunned.. interviewers don't know how to confront these bold faced lies.. its like "I know you're lying, you know you're lying....ooooooooooook"
Its like the sun doesn't come out and you have somebody working for Trump saying "Its sunny!!! LOOK UP!!!"
I mean WTF?
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All of this plagiarism kerfuffle is just obscuring the real scandal at day 1 of the convention. . .
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnsDNdQVUAAf1mb.jpg:large)
What!? American whisky not good enough for you, Lou Holtz?! We gotta build a wall to stop that Canadian trash from crossing the border! Smacks, you're a Notre Dame guy: you have any defense of this!?
/s
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old people sometimes start to border senility... people need to not put these people up there.. Clint Eastwood was the same...old people say crazy shit.... its sad.. getting old.
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Classic stuff here
Forgetting which Twitter acct one is logged with, complete with DOJ Press release
http://gizmodo.com/justice-department-tweet-calls-cnn-biggest-troll-of-the-1783909936
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but if you think about it "being President" as far as he sees it is the dream job.. you're #1 and everyone has to kiss your ass....
i agree that trump probably thinks this. i also suspect that the reality of the job would quickly have him running out of 1600 Penn:
Trump: i am declaring war on ISIS - NOW!!!
WH staffer: you can't do that sir, it requires an act of congress.
T: fine, let's build the border wall - NOW!!!
WHS: no can do, the House is withholding funds
T: eff them, i'm going to put my whole family on the Supreme Court bench!!!
WHS: first you need vacancies, sir, then the Senate would need to confirm them - not going to happen.
T: then let's renegotiate our deal with the chinese!
WHS: the chinese don't want to negotiate, sir, they're happy with the status quo. also, working this through the WTO will take years.
T: ok, let's get kids to learn about making great deals in school!
WHS: that's a state issue, sir, you can only issue guidelines.
T: screw the lot of you, imma gonna go for a walk and let my adoring public adore me
WHS: that's a security risk, sir, we can't let you leave the white house grounds without days of advance planning.
T: THIS JOB SUCKS, I'M OUTTA HERE. WHERE'S MY HELICOPTER?!?
WHS: Marine One or your personal one, sir?
(on a slightly more serious note: Freakonomics Radio: How Much Does the President Really Matter? (http://freakonomics.com/podcast/much-president-really-matter-rebroadcast/) - download the podcast or read the transcript. summary: the prez is probably less powerful than you think. and: if anyone is looking for an interesting podcast to subscribe to, you could do much worse than Freakonomics)
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T: screw the lot of you, imma gonna go for a walk and let my adoring public adore me
WHS: that's a security risk, sir, we can't let you leave the white house grounds without days of advance planning.
T: THIS JOB SUCKS, I'M OUTTA HERE. WHERE'S MY HELICOPTER?!?
WHS: Marine One or your personal one, sir?
This brings up an interesting point: can anyone actually see Trump legit living in the White House for 4 years? I would imagine in a hypothetical Trump presidency, less than 200 night actually spent in the WH. He'd try to "run the country" from Trump Tower, you just know it.
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(on a slightly more serious note: Freakonomics Radio: How Much Does the President Really Matter? (http://freakonomics.com/podcast/much-president-really-matter-rebroadcast/) - download the podcast or read the transcript. summary: the prez is probably less powerful than you think. and: if anyone is looking for an interesting podcast to subscribe to, you could do much worse than Freakonomics)
This is why every person who cast a ballot for Bernie Sanders is a complete idiot. The President doesn't just change laws/shut down banks by fiat.
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Its like the sun doesn't come out and you have somebody working for Trump saying "Its sunny!!! LOOK UP!!!"
trump supporters don't care what he says. they aren't listening. after a year of this, trump and his stooges have internalized this. why bother telling the truth, or even making sense, if no one cares? haters gonna hate so no need to cater to them either.
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Smacks, you're a Notre Dame guy: you have any defense of this!?
I prefer what he drank yesterday to what he said today...perhaps they go hand in hand.
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Its like the sun doesn't come out and you have somebody working for Trump saying "Its sunny!!! LOOK UP!!!"
trump supporters don't care what he says. they aren't listening. after a year of this, trump and his stooges have internalized this. why bother telling the truth, or even making sense, if no one cares? haters gonna hate so no need to cater to them either.
absolutely but they need more than Trump supporters to win....
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I feel like I'm watching the Republican Party committing mass suicide....
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I feel like I'm watching the Republican Party committing mass suicide....
Yassssss!
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Oh snap
@HillaryClinton
If you think Chris Christie can lecture anyone on ethics, we have a bridge to sell you
her team is getting good a the twitter game
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I feel like I'm watching the Republican Party committing mass suicide....
Yassssss!
Yasssss, queen or just regular Yasssssss?
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I feel like I'm watching the Republican Party committing mass suicide....
It started right here:
(https://static01.nyt.com/images/2008/08/30/us/30veep.span.jpg)
And has only been amplified every Presidential election since.
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I feel like I'm watching the Republican Party committing mass suicide....
Yassssss!
Yasssss, queen or just regular Yasssssss?
Oh, I didn't realize hutch was...I mean, it's all good. We're all friends here.
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talk about turning lemons in to lemonade
@realDonaldTrump · 1h1 hour ago
Good news is Melania's speech got more publicity than any in the history of politics especially if you believe that all press is good press!
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talk about turning lemons in to lemonade
@realDonaldTrump · 1h1 hour ago
Good news is Melania's speech got more publicity than any in the history of politics especially if you believe that all press is good press!
(https://media.giphy.com/media/g8CJl0epg71MQ/giphy.gif)
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Trump offered Kasich the (de facto) Presidency (http://gawker.com/donald-trump-offered-john-kasich-the-presidency-1783971713)
I'm telling you, I really do not think this guy has any interest in the day-to-day job of the Presidency.
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Trump offered Kasich the (de facto) Presidency (http://gawker.com/donald-trump-offered-john-kasich-the-presidency-1783971713)
How would that work? Ask this guy:
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I feel like I'm watching the Republican Party committing mass suicide....
Yassssss!
Yasssss, queen or just regular Yasssssss?
Oh, I didn't realize hutch was...I mean, it's all good. We're all friends here.
can we get the yasss, or yasssss queen, question answered?
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last night was a pretty good one for the GOP. convention went off without a hitch.
result? this place is dead as a door nail.
fingers crossed that there will be eff-ups tonight. i want my entertainment and chaos back!!!
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I always heard it as yassss queen yassss. Did I get that wrong?
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Trump offered Kasich the (de facto) Presidency (http://gawker.com/donald-trump-offered-john-kasich-the-presidency-1783971713)
I'm telling you, I really do not think this guy has any interest in the day-to-day job of the Presidency.
so should we get trumped in the election, pence will effectively be running the country?
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last night was a pretty good one for the GOP. convention went off without a hitch.
result? this place is dead as a door nail.
fingers crossed that there will be eff-ups tonight. i want my entertainment and chaos back!!!
There's always #mustardgate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1OwfhYfay4
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I always heard it as yassss queen yassss. Did I get that wrong?
The second Yassss adds emphasis, but it is not required.
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Trump offered Kasich the (de facto) Presidency (http://gawker.com/donald-trump-offered-john-kasich-the-presidency-1783971713)
I'm telling you, I really do not think this guy has any interest in the day-to-day job of the Presidency.
so should we get trumped in the election, pence will effectively be running the country?
Mandatory funerals for all aborted fetuses. Woohoo!
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I feel like I'm watching the Republican Party committing mass suicide....
Yassssss!
Yasssss, queen or just regular Yasssssss?
Oh, I didn't realize hutch was...I mean, it's all good. We're all friends here.
can we get the yasss, or yasssss queen, question answered?
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cojones rafael... cojones
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fingers crossed that there will be eff-ups tonight.
Jumboton had some major issues
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La gran novedad es que Cruz dijo que la gente debe votar su conciencia... en cierto modo esta diciendo "no voten simplemente en contra de Hillary, si no les gusta Trump no lo voten.."
Cruz tiene huevos muy grandes.. o esta loco.. o una mezcla
DE NO CREER!!
Y Trump salio temprano para frenarlo a Cruz que debia hablar 10 minutos y hablo 23! Le viste la cara a Ivanka? Estaba en shock!
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Ted Cruz is savage. That was borderline incredible.
I'm stunned he showed up in person to give that speech while Rubio actually endorsed Trump but via video. You guys got that backwards methinks.
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It really is a shame we did not send me to this all GwarBQ-style.
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I'm sure Maher was pissed it went over 14 minutes
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I'm sure Maher was pissed it went over 14 minutes
Thats on Cruz. Was supposed to go 9-10 minutes. Went 23.
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noche espectacular! me voy a dormir muy contento...Cruz le ha hecho un gran favor a Hillary....me recuerda un poco la lo que le hizo Christie a Romney en el 2012 primero con su discurso en la convencion y despues con las fotos con y elogios hacia Obama despues del huracan sandy...
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Las declaraciones de Trump al NYT sobre la OTAN son increibles....
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Las declaraciones de Trump al NYT sobre la OTAN son increibles....
For anyone who is having a problem reading these Spanish posts, allow me to assist you: El Hutcho means "the Hutcho." ;)
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noche espectacular! me voy a dormir muy contento...Cruz le ha hecho un gran favor a Hillary....me recuerda un poco la lo que le hizo Christie a Romney en el 2012 primero con su discurso en la convencion y despues con las fotos con y elogios hacia Obama despues del huracan sandy...
This Google translate is pissing me off, but I think even with the mass suicide of the GOP they will still get so much blind support. Even with this insane circus fire of a convention. What an absolutely insane election cycle.
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noche espectacular! me voy a dormir muy contento...Cruz le ha hecho un gran favor a Hillary....me recuerda un poco la lo que le hizo Christie a Romney en el 2012 primero con su discurso en la convencion y despues con las fotos con y elogios hacia Obama despues del huracan sandy...
This Google translate is pissing me off, but I think even with the mass suicide of the GOP they will still get so much blind support. Even with this insane circus fire of a convention. What an absolutely insane election cycle.
El hutcaraina can you use Google translate to post comments
All this colloquial slang is really making it hard for us gringos to comprehenda
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bueno bueno.. tendran que aprender viejo... es hora...
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noche espectacular! me voy a dormir muy contento...Cruz le ha hecho un gran favor a Hillary....me recuerda un poco la lo que le hizo Christie a Romney en el 2012 primero con su discurso en la convencion y despues con las fotos con y elogios hacia Obama despues del huracan sandy...
This Google translate is pissing me off, but I think even with the mass suicide of the GOP they will still get so much blind support. Even with this insane circus fire of a convention. What an absolutely insane election cycle.
El hutcaraina can you use Google translate to post comments
All this colloquial slang is really making it hard for us gringos to comprehenda
You're reading the future of America 50 years from now if you don't vote for Trump. :P
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noche espectacular! me voy a dormir muy contento...Cruz le ha hecho un gran favor a Hillary....me recuerda un poco la lo que le hizo Christie a Romney en el 2012 primero con su discurso en la convencion y despues con las fotos con y elogios hacia Obama despues del huracan sandy...
This Google translate is pissing me off, but I think even with the mass suicide of the GOP they will still get so much blind support. Even with this insane circus fire of a convention. What an absolutely insane election cycle.
El hutcaraina can you use Google translate to post comments
All this colloquial slang is really making it hard for us gringos to comprehenda
You're reading the future of America 50 years from now if you don't vote for Trump. :P
Ha!
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Ted Cruz is savage. That was borderline incredible.
I question many things about Ted Cruz, but I will never question the size of his balls.
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Did you see after he was done and walking off to massive booing he not only did the traditional stop, turn, and do a second wave, BUT HE FUCKING BOWED? Balls of reinforced steel.*
* - With the obvious proviso he is a hateful monster of misery.
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soo...the unbelievable thought that Trump might win in 2016 is actually becoming more and more real
What is frustrating that it really doesn't matter what he does or says ...that any other person in the world would do would just get flamed to a crisp
It's either people don't care and/or hate Hillary sooo much they would rather have Camacho
he's Teflon don
edit ...didn't know that ForD did a reprise of Camacho in 2102 (http://www.funnyordie.com/president_camacho)
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Did you see after he was done and walking off to massive booing he not only did the traditional stop, turn, and do a second wave, BUT HE FUCKING BOWED? Balls of reinforced steel.*
* - With the obvious proviso he is a hateful monster of misery.
Yes, I've watched the last 5-6 minutes at least a dozen times. I'm still not convinced they were parading Trump out there to change the tenor of the convention. I'm pretty sure they were marching him out there to accept the endorsement, and it all fell apart. They had no idea they were getting trolled.
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Did you see after he was done and walking off to massive booing he not only did the traditional stop, turn, and do a second wave, BUT HE FUCKING BOWED? Balls of reinforced steel.*
* - With the obvious proviso he is a hateful monster of misery.
Yes, I've watched the last 5-6 minutes at least a dozen times. I'm still not convinced they were parading Trump out there to change the tenor of the convention. I'm pretty sure they were marching him out there to accept the endorsement, and it all fell apart. They had no idea they were getting trolled.
They knew he wasn't endorsing but had no idea he was doing that. They were bringing him out there to see Newt + Pence. Cruz ran 14 minutes long over his timed written remarks. I think it was total timing issue he came out then.
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^que asco
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so this family thing is just weird. I never really envisioned a president with his family as his cabinet
lots o' women, minorities, homosexuals and even a guy from Lebanese decent talk ??
I will say the shocker of someone on the final night of the convention
will stand center stage say on center stage "I am proud to be gay"
Then his daughter talking about wage equality and support for child care
it is truly bizzaro times that these things happen on an RNC stage and the crowd cheers
when it seems 364 days of the year they live and do the opposite
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The Ivanka -- and I guess Thiel -- speech is the first attempt in this convention to get someone who isn't a Trump voter already to vote for him. So, that at least makes sense.
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Death, Destruction, Terrorism and Weakness
yikes
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His entire strategy in a general election, from this speech, is winning the Rust Belt. Which is coukoo bananas.
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Is it just me with a standard upper-management health care policy, but does anyone with the AHCA actually hate it and not get to pick their own doctor?
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Oh, shit! He's going to revolutionize the TSA? I might vote for him if I don't have to take my belt off next time I fly somewhere
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Does he understand our military spending is 21 times that of the next greatest country? For all the GOP loves their military, they sure want to denigrated fairly often as a go to point...
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" hello, yes departments in government? This is Donald Trump your president. Do you have any departments or people that are sitting around that I could cut along with your budget that you are aware of?? Oh, no? You don't ?"
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Il Duche
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To be fair, I was there when Hillary said she wanted to remove gun rights from Americans. I fought hard for a fox-hunting exemption but she said no.
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That's true too. The evangelicals never get their views heard in politics. Never.
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Ivanka. News, at 11, am.
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el discurso es preocupante....es evidente que nunca va haber un "pivot" o cambio de tono o intento de acercamiento hacia el medio
me cuesta creer que el pueblo Americano vaya a elegir a un hombre con una vision tan oscura y pesimista de EEUU.. un hombre tan demagogico... tan mentiroso.....pero la mera posibilidad de que ocurra es preocupante...
me gusto el blog de Andrew Sullivan...
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Oh, shit! He's going to revolutionize the TSA? I might vote for him if I don't have to take my belt off next time I fly somewhere
Get Precheck (or even better, drop the extra $15 and get Global entry that comes with pre-check). Belt problem solved. You can keep your shoes on too.
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Every time I go for a run on the Mall and see scores of people taking photographs of squirrels, I think "Damnit, this Trump guy really might get elected President."
Ok, just went for a run on the Mall. 91 degrees and still lots of people taking photos of squirrels. Evidence of a post-convention bump?
The best site was seeing this 50+ super obese woman start jaywalking just as traffic was about the start up from both directions. It must have taken her 30+ seconds to waddle across the two lane street. I laughed the whole time. She probably figured "wtf I can do whatever I want, I'll be dead within five years anyway."
On another note, I think the Democrats should get Patterson Hood to speak at their convention. He's an intelligent, well-spoken, white liberal redneck with an Alabama drawl and "real American" semi-handsome good looks...who with a good speech could swing more white working class votes than the typical white liberal metrosexual elitist prick could.
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a good speech could swing more white working class votes than the typical white liberal metrosexual elitist prick could.
I'm way more effective then you give me credit for, but I agree in non metropolitan areas, Patterson Hood could be very effective.
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So Huch...is Hillary going to txt you her VP pick?
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This is amazing
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So Huch...is Hillary going to txt you her VP pick?
si a mi y a medio mundo pero por Munich no se si sera hoy...que desastre
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David Duke anuncia que es candidato a Senador... "Yo creo que el clima en el pais ha cambiado y ha movido en mi direccion.. Mi hora ha llegado"....
Primer candidato del partido Trumpista
https://www.yahoo.com/news/ex-kkk-leader-david-duke-says-plans-run-153047572--election.html
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Ever seen a pumpkin give a Nazi salute?
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Kaine...el peor secreto las ultimas semanas...
muchachos, hay que ganar Virginia si o si ahora.. primer Vice de Virginia desde Tyler en 1840!!!
podria haber sido mejor la seleccion.. podria haber sido peor....
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Larry Sabato movio a Virginia de "leans democratic" a "likely democratic"
Dice que si Trump gana, salvo que sea holgadamente, no lo hara con Virginia...
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Debo admitir me estoy poniendo uno poquito nervioso....
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concern-of-the-day with trump (a new one each morning, collect them all!) - his ties with russia and admiration of putin.
Inside Trumps Financial Ties to Russia and His Unusual Flattery of Vladimir Putin (http://Inside Trumps Financial Ties to Russia and His Unusual Flattery of Vladimir Putinhttps://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/inside-trumps-financial-ties-to-russia-and-his-unusual-flattery-of-vladimir-putin/2016/06/17/dbdcaac8-31a6-11e6-8ff7-7b6c1998b7a0_story.html)
and now there are allegations that the russians are responsible for the DNC email hack: In Hacking, Russia Accused of Playing in U.S. Politics (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/25/us/politics/donald-trump-russia-emails.html). this is really, really scary stuff.
kaspaarov has been killing it lately on twitter:
Now that all his Kremlin connections are spilling out, for the first time ever Trump supporters are asking for evidence of something!
I?ve heard this sort of speech a lot in the last 15 years and trust me, it doesn?t sound any better in Russian.
It?s Demagoguery 101: When you don?t have actual answers, exaggerate the problems with fear & hatred in order to blind people with emotion.
- @kasparov63 (https://twitter.com/kasparov63)
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i called the russian stuff 2 months ago. trumps been a sleeper agent all this time, i knew it
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Sanders y sus apoyantes imbeciles me tienen los huevos hinchados...por dios, que manga de idiotas
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Is it just me or is El Hutcho muy molestoso?
Sanders y sus apoyantes imbeciles me tienen los huevos hinchados...por dios, que manga de idiotas
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man the DNC convention is just so superior on every level to the RNC clown car show...its like one week taking in a Pawtucket game and the next week the Red Sox at Fenway....
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man CNN is just going crazy with fawning coverage of DNC....I love it
loved this night one.....I don't know that I'll watch the rest but I am amped up.. can't believe they had Cory Booker/FLOTUS/Warren/Sanders all on the first night!
I got to go to bed but I'm amped up....
in other news I have joined a gym... its been like 8 years I think.... I wonder if I'll go to this gym more than I did to the other ones..
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in other news I have joined a gym... its been like 8 years I think.... I wonder if I'll go to this gym more than I did to the other ones..
Good for you. Similarly, I'm excited for #Rawgust, myself. We all have to take care of ourselves as we get older.
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Good lord, that was amazing.
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i am seriously high on politics right now. still.
i'm praying that my politico-boner subsides in time for me to catch a few hours of sleep... TBD.
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politico-boner
:D
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I never thought the most insightful thing said about the modern political zeitgeist would come from Sarah Silverman, but it sure as hell did.
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I never thought the most insightful thing said about the modern political zeitgeist would come from Sarah Silverman, but it sure as hell did.
agreed
but I'm sure this is why you liked it the most
Sarah Silverman: 'Bernie or bust' people are ridiculous ...
It's not getting any press, but I thought Madeleine Albright's speech was great
Also proud to let my 10 year old daughter stay up way past her bed time to hear Bill's speech
She did miss Hil's comment at the end, but I'll make sure she hears that tonight
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She did miss Hil's comment at the end, but I'll make sure she hears that tonight
please do, it was an amazing moment. they did a great job of seizing the historical nature of the moment. as a proud dad of a girl, it really tugged at the ol' heart strings.
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video clips: http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/26/politics/democratic-convention-roll-call-day-two/index.html
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I will admit it....this map SCARES the shit out of me
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Once Trump loses, he will form his own News Network called Trump TV, to directly and purposefully put Fox News off the air, and to add insult to injury he'll hire Roger Ailes to run the whole f****** thing. It'll be the greatest news channel ever for people who love Fox News.
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Once Trump loses, he will form his own News Network called Trump TV, to directly and purposefully put Fox News off the air, and to add insult to injury he'll hire Roger Ailes to run the whole f****** thing. It'll be the greatest news channel ever for people who love Fox News.
Thats plausible bordering on likely.
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I don't think the never Hilary numbnut that re-tweeted my re-tweet of this quite understood what it meant... because pretty sure most patriots were calling for assange head several years ago.
The Canada Party @theCanadaParty 6h6 hours ago
Assange: I have evidence of US atrocities.
America: You're a traitor!
Assange: I can damage Hillary.
America: You're a hero!
and seriously shouldn't the russian hackers be looking for trump's tax returns instead
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major Donald smackdowns tonight.. I got a political boner!
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major Donald smackdowns tonight.. I got a political boner!
If it lasts more than 4 hours, consult a physician.
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major Donald smackdowns tonight.. I got a political boner!
If it lasts more than 4 hours, consult a physician.
It came down when Kaine starting telling me his life story so I'm going to be ok!
I realize he has to give this "introducing myself to the nation" speech but its boring....Panetta/Biden/Bloomberg was a great triple threat..
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I think it's really brave of Hillary Clinton to name Danny Tanner from Full House her running mate.
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I think it's really brave of Hillary Clinton to name Danny Tanner from Full House her running mate.
yeah... hopefully speech will work in non jaded outside the beltway and NE America... there is such an America still, right.. right???
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so there are two teleprompter screens.. one to the left and one to the right of the president.
Isn't it usually THREE.. one to each side and another in the middle so the person giving the speech doesn't have to jerk from side to side a la Stevie Wonder? he never looks at the camera or TV directly which I think is a bummer...
I realize most people won't pick up on it or care but am just curious..
I'm in the tank for Obama.. always have been.. will miss him... hope to meet him some day.. proud to say I knocked on doors for him (and more so for me because the 8 years of W came close to killing me...at the time I lived 6 blocks from the White House and I found it oppressive/depressing)... maybe I think Obama was a bit too cautious at the beginning...too many attempts to try to work with Republicans..wasted too much political capital....not ambitious enough perhaps on job creation.....but having said all of that I think he has been a superlative leader...without doubt the best president of my lifetime... its been slim pickings though.... Carter (I was too young I guess but I remember my dad getting 20% interest YEARLY on his US savings accounts at Pioneer Federal...something wrong with that)...? Reagan (ugh.. I really hated him..although time has helped me see he was effective even if I don't like what he did), Bush, Clinton (I didn't vote for him the first time.. I knew what he was.....), W???? W is one of the five worst presidents in AMerican history..comfortably..
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BOOM!
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my political boner is back!
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my political boner is back!
I also thought boner talk was strictly in the smackie thread?
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concern-of-the-day with trump (a new one each morning, collect them all!) - his ties with russia and admiration of putin.
On May 31, 2016, the Economist published a hyopthetical article in a book (later published i nthe mag 2 weeks ago) "What if Trump Became President" It read:
"But his quick offer to meet the Russian president reminded many Americans, uncomfortably, of the murky espionage scandal that played so large a role in the defeat of Hillary Clinton. In October top-secret files had appeared on the internet, allegedly extracted by hackers from Mrs Clinton?s private e-mail server when she was secretary of state, identifying individuals as American intelligence assets in Russia and Ukraine; one, an Israeli-Russian businessman, was soon afterwards found dead at a Geneva hotel. Mrs Clinton continues to deny any knowledge of the leaked documents. Her husband, ex-President Bill Clinton, sparked fresh headlines with an intemperate interview in March in which he charged that ?Kremlin dirty tricks? helped to swing the 2016 election."
Sleep well, kids.
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Feel the wrath of Khan Donald...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7z7lN7nQjG0
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I'm a dyed in the wool Hillary fan. Was embarrassed we didn't elect her in 2008. Still believe that. That said, I've never said she was a good public speaker.
That said, she is absolutely knocking this out of the park. Best she's ever been.
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Bernie Sanders should hold a press conference in the morning to apologize for running against Hillary and step down from the Senate. After hearing this, any person who ran against her is basically human shit. Bernie certainly hates progressive democratic policy, no doubt.
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Bernie who?
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Has, anyone else noticed that Relaxer, who started this thread, never posts in this thread.
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Has, anyone else noticed that Relaxer, who started this thread, never posts in this thread.
I have and it's like a piece of my critical brain is missing
so who is the Yoko who ruined our man!!!
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Bernie Sanders should hold a press conference in the morning to apologize for running against Hillary and step down from the Senate. After hearing this, any person who ran against her is basically human shit. Bernie certainly hates progressive democratic policy, no doubt.
the absurdity of this is astounding, but it's well known that he was not a Democrat for almost his entire life
so I think he should remove the D from his name at the very least and go back to being a cranky independent
what is strange is hearing thes Bern'ers saying they are going on with out him
pretty small but vocal crowd
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Has, anyone else noticed that Relaxer, who started this thread, never posts in this thread.
I have and it's like a piece of my critical brain is missing
so who is the Yoko who ruined our man!!!
I was just thinking about this the other day. I know, I know, it's lame, I'm not online as much anymore, ot at least not here. Work got busy, I'm all girlfed out (which is why my sex thread died), plus I've been cheating on the 930 forum with another board.
I did love how every night of the DNC, there was a powerhouse speaker and sometimes more than one. Michelle, Bernie, Bill, Joe, Obama and then Hillary last night. I watched all four nights with my gf and we were just in awe the whole time.
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plus I've been cheating on the 930 forum with another board.
Hipinion?
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plus I've been cheating on the 930 forum with another board.
no reason you can't be polyamorous and love more than one, we won't judge you
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I hate to go all Michael Moore on you guys, and it's great that the Dems has some nice speeches this week, but you guys do realize that Trump is ahead in most polls, right? And if there's a major terrorist incident in October? Forgetaboutit.
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but you guys do realize that Trump is ahead in most polls, right?
This isn't even close to true:
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo
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The current polls also are showing trumps convention bump. They're not recent enough to do the same for the Dems yet. How about we wait a week before acting like the sky is falling?
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I'd say it's closer than one who uses logic and critical thinking would expect it to be
...definitely close if Dems think Trump doesn't have a chance (kinda what the GOP is banking on)
and Johnson with 7.6 of the popular vote...whoa
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I'd say it's closer than one who uses logic and critical thinking would expect it to be
...definitely close if Dems think Trump doesn't have a chance (kinda what the GOP is banking on)
and Johnson with 7.6 of the popular vote...whoa
I'm still proud of my Nader vote in 2000, and would definitely consider Johnson this year if Trump (or Cruz or Carson) wasn't the nominee. Sorry, Gary, have to go with Hillary.
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I still Wednesday night was the amazing one... what a line up!
Mr. Khan holding his copy of the constitution and calling out Trump... that was my favorite moment of the entire thing..
Bernie Sanders and his supporters should crawl in a hole and die.. booing Panetta.... they have proved me 100% correct... the left wing of the party is a joke.. I dare them to vote for Trump. Funny how some who supported Bernie are now beginning to walk back their enthusiastic support of him..... not so funny anymore boys and girls?
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What can you expect from the folks who registered just so they could vote for the revolution and then realize what an election actually is. All or nothing?!?
How'd that work as a kid? You still holding your breath for that full sized Voltron with light up eyes and lazer sword?
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I have never used the term "entitled Millenials" until I met people who refuse to vote for Hillary and simultaneously wipe their hands of any responsibility of the consequences thereto because they are "going to give America what they deserve."
Petulant (asshole) children.
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The "busters" have such a myopic and personal view of the election and political process that it's maddening.
The same people spewing equality rhetoric won't look past their own "either way it won't affect me" mindset that they can't see their neighbors, or even friends, that a Trump presidency could affect.
Or maybe they all live very white, upper middle class American lives.
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I have never used the term "entitled Millenials" until I met people who refuse to vote for Hillary and simultaneously wipe their hands of any responsibility of the consequences thereto because they are "going to give America what they deserve."
Petulant (asshole) children.
Or threaten to leave the country if Trump [Jesus Christ, I still can't believe it] is elected instead of staying here and trying to fight the good fight. Fucking losers.
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Or maybe they all live very white, upper middle class American lives.
BINGO
in other news....trump turns a $34k debt in to a $300k (http://www.miamiherald.com/entertainment/ent-columns-blogs/jose-lambiet/article91353232.html)
I wonder if his appeal with be "it was a judge with a Mexican sounding name, how could he be impartial"
You know who trump is going get jobs for ....Lawyers....lots of them
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Juan's last comment is classic
Fox News Host: The Bush Administration Got Bin Laden, Not Obama (http://mediamatters.org/video/2016/07/28/fox-news-host-bush-administration-got-bin-laden-not-obama/211998)
JUAN WILLIAMS (CO-HOST): I don't think most people, I don't think most Americans, even Trump supporters think Donald Trump really knows a lot about how to combat terrorism.
ERIC BOLLING (CO-HOST): I'll tell you about who doesn't know a whole lot about terrorism, is President Obama. And he's proven that over the last eight years. Remember when he said "I want to lead from behind," he said --
WILLIAMS: He never said "I want to lead from behind."
BOLLING: -- "Let's pull out of Afghanistan and Iraq."
KIMBERLY GUILFOLYE (CO-HOST): The "jay vee team."
BOLLING: -- "Jay vee team." He's failed on every level as far as counter-terror all the way through.
WILLIAMS: Oh, I see.
BOLLING: And if you point to Bin Laden, that wasn't Obama's administration that got Bin Laden.
WILLIAMS: It wasn't?
BOLLING: That was the Bush administration that set up the kill shot, and Obama took the kill shot.
WILLIAMS: Up to then, I was listening to you. But goodness gracious, you went overboard.
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I don't get what Juan is doing at Fox News.. I mean I think he just wants to the big paycheck for being the token black guy.. just like Geraldo gets one for being the token latino...... earlier this week Geraldo was staring at O'reilly in disbelief when he went off about people wanting him dead (regarding how great a time White House building slaves had)...
I kind of feel sorry for them but then again they made their bed...in Geraldo's case its kind of sad.. the guy started off being a fairly hip cool dude.....
Of course neither of these guys are Alan Colmes.. how does that guy sleep at night?
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On a bed of hundred dollar bills. . . Hundred. Dollar. Bills.
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good point...
I guess I'm weird.. I don't care very much about money... then again I don't have very much so I guess I got to believe that...
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Geraldo had to do it for the money. He found that safe and opened it and there was nothing.
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Geraldo had to do it for the money. He found that safe and opened it and there was nothing.
I watched that special live!
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Bernie Sanders should hold a press conference in the morning to apologize for running against Hillary and step down from the Senate. After hearing this, any person who ran against her is basically human shit. Bernie certainly hates progressive democratic policy, no doubt.
oh don't be a sore winner. having some competition made her a better candidate and has better prepared her for the next 102 days. i dare you to tell me that bernie hasn't forced her to move a little left of her previous positions. no way should would have been talking about free college for the middle class w/o bernie.
agreed that that was the best i've ever seen hillary. can't wait to see next week's polls. i think that trump did better than hillary at their respective conventions, but likely because expectations were a lot lower for him.
what i found interesting was how emotionless bernie was last night. every time they cut to him he was blank. i imagine that he was thinking to himself "that coulda been me, that coulda been me..."
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after hillary's speech, that arena looked like a giant Ikea ball pit. effing hell... it's as if someone said "the GOP had a lot of balloons? I'LL SHOW YOU WHO HAS A LOT OF BALLOONS!!!"
Hil's two best zingers from last night:
- (after pointing out that trump ties are made in china not colarado, trump suits are made in mexico not michigan, etc.) "make america great again? how about making THINGS in america again?"
- "a man you can bait with a tweet should not have nuclear weapons!"
;D
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- "a man you can bait with a tweet should not have nuclear weapons!"
that was my favorite line
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- "a man you can bait with a tweet should not have nuclear weapons!"
that was my favorite line
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Solid.
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"How would you answer that father?" Stephanopoulos asked. "What sacrifice have you made?"
"I think I've made a lot of sacrifices," Trump said. "I've worked very, very hard. I've created thousands and thousands of jobs, tens of thousands of jobs ?"
"Those are sacrifices?" Stephanopoulos asked.
"Sure. I think they're sacrifices.
!!!???
kind of like when he said that his sexual trysts as a youth 'was his own personal Vietnam' to Stern
and called John McCain a 'loser'
that anyone is pro-military or a Vet can say with a clear conscious they support this guy...just boggles my mind
It is just unreal the things that he can say and no matter how many times we repeat the EXACT words that he said...nobody cares
He has no political track record, but he definitely has a public track record and just don't understand why people can't see he's such a sham when it comes to being a 'populist president'
Trump...Putting the POP back in populism
he's Gordon gecko and doesn't really care about anyone else (except maybe his family)
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Every time I think he can't get any crueler, he does something even more jaw dropping.
I can't believe she had to write this:
Ghazala Khan on her Silence (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ghazala-khan-donald-trump-criticized-my-silence-he-knows-nothing-about-true-sacrifice/2016/07/31/c46e52ec-571c-11e6-831d-0324760ca856_story.html?tid=sm_fb)
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The current polls also are showing trumps convention bump. They're not recent enough to do the same for the Dems yet. How about we wait a week before acting like the sky is falling?
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/election-update-clintons-bounce-appears-bigger-than-trumps/
Hey, look at that, the sky isn't falling.
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I'm currently staying at a hotel where I have a direct straight on view of this.
(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1851220/thumbs/o-TRUMP-1-570.jpg)
My daughter won't stop derogatorily screaming "TRUMP!"
Thankfully the view does not also include the Christian Scientist Church also seen in this pic.
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The current polls also are showing trumps convention bump. They're not recent enough to do the same for the Dems yet. How about we wait a week before acting like the sky is falling?
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/election-update-clintons-bounce-appears-bigger-than-trumps/
Hey, look at that, the sky isn't falling.
I think some of her support is really soft (3-5% of her polling number).. and still a lot of undecided people mulling a third party vote as an option.. its remarkable just how damaged Hillary is.. she should be trouncing him by 10 points easily...
I think we need to wait a few more weeks to know but it looks ilke after the conventions all that happened is we may be reverting back to the pre-convention numbers... with Hillary holding a small but significant and strategic lead...
I couldn't stand Trump any more and donated some money before the quarterly deadline last night.. I kind of feel like a chump when I donate to politiicians but sometimes I feel I have to....If Trump where to win I'd have to seriously consider leaving.. I know someone wrote above that that was an immature response but I'm not so sure.. I lived through a lot of the Bush years and it was just awful.... nobody ever accomplished much marching against him or his wars..... just like during the Reagan years not much was accomplishedd by the opposition....
I went to a small gathering- to call it a party would be too much- on Saturday night and one person I had not met before was saying that it was in the bag.. no way Trump could win.. I'm not so sure and I think erring on the side of caution is a good approach....
I think about phone banking for Hillary but knowing how much so many despise him I just can't see doing it... a lot of people just hate getting those calls! I'm not sure one actually convinces anyone!
One thing is for sure, whoever wins its going to be ugly.. if Hillary wins Republicans are going to be so angry and mean.. and if Trump wins.. well I already said I could not handle that and I dont' think I'm alone....
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I have been ruminating on this for a couple days. Very likely that I take the book on vacation this weekend:
Trump: Tribune Of Poor White People (http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/trump-us-politics-poor-whites/)
An interview with JD Vance, author of Hillbilly Elegy: A Memoir of a Family and a Culture in Crisis
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I guess thinking about it some more maybe I could do phone banking in Spanish...make sure people are registered and know where and when to vote? that might help the campaign and its hard to envision Latinos hating Hillary as much as many others seem to...
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I guess thinking about it some more maybe I could do phone banking in Spanish...make sure people are registered and know where and when to vote? that might help the campaign and its hard to envision Latinos hating Hillary as much as many others seem to...
they might like her, but that doesn't mean that they'll go out and vote. getting on a phone bank to make voting as easy as possible (making sure hey're registered, know where to go, have the right documents on hand, etc) would be a great contribution. especially if you call voters in a swing state.
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I guess thinking about it some more maybe I could do phone banking in Spanish...make sure people are registered and know where and when to vote? that might help the campaign and its hard to envision Latinos hating Hillary as much as many others seem to...
they might like her, but that doesn't mean that they'll go out and vote. getting on a phone bank to make voting as easy as possible (making sure hey're registered, know where to go, have the right documents on hand, etc) would be a great contribution. especially if you call voters in a swing state.
yeah... that is what I am thinking....I will look into it...
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#TrumpSacrafices (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23TrumpSacrifices&src=typd)
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I think about phone banking for Hillary but knowing how much so many despise him I just can't see doing it... a lot of people just hate getting those calls! I'm not sure one actually convinces anyone!
Usually all front line phone bankers are doing is identifying people that are on the fence between two candidates. Once they are identified as such they get passed on to the heavy hitters for the hard sell.
That is likely all you will be doing.
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#TrumpSacrafices (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23TrumpSacrifices&src=typd)
Among my favorites from the weekend, but I think it was this one:
Imagine what Republicans would have said if Obama featured his 5 kids from 3 different women at his convention in 2008...
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I think about phone banking for Hillary but knowing how much so many despise him I just can't see doing it... a lot of people just hate getting those calls! I'm not sure one actually convinces anyone!
Usually all front line phone bankers are doing is identifying people that are on the fence between two candidates. Once they are identified as such they get passed on to the heavy hitters for the hard sell.
That is likely all you will be doing.
when I did phone banking for Kerry in 04 I was calling people and it was a bitch.. many of the numbers didn't work, many people didn't want to hear from me... but that was a while ago... it was like panning for gold..
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phone banking is definitely hard, thankless work. but if enough people do it, it'll make a difference.
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I Probably did phone banking for O in 08 with my computer... so that was better.. for Kerry I had to do it from a movie theater in Dupont....how things have changed..
I'm into doing Latino outreach for H.. cause i'm kind of passionate about encouraging/helping Latinos to vote..i will look into it.
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I Probably did phone banking for O in 08 with my computer... so that was better.. for Kerry I had to do it from a movie theater in Dupont....how things have changed..
I'm into doing Latino outreach for H.. cause i'm kind of passionate about encouraging/helping Latinos to vote..i will look into it.
You've got me thinking about doing this. I can't begin to fathom that fucking IDIOT being in... I won't even type it. How did we fucking get here, America...
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I have been ruminating on this for a couple days. Very likely that I take the book on vacation this weekend:
Trump: Tribune Of Poor White People (http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/trump-us-politics-poor-whites/)
An interview with JD Vance, author of Hillbilly Elegy: A Memoir of a Family and a Culture in Crisis
i only had time to make it a quarter of the way through the interview, but i'm strongly considering ordering the book. fascinating.
I Probably did phone banking for O in 08 with my computer... so that was better.. for Kerry I had to do it from a movie theater in Dupont....how things have changed..
I'm into doing Latino outreach for H.. cause i'm kind of passionate about encouraging/helping Latinos to vote..i will look into it.
You've got me thinking about doing this. I can't begin to fathom that fucking IDIOT being in... I won't even type it. How did we fucking get here, America...
i love reading this: finally some people doing something about this... kudos.
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Does Gallup not conduct election polls anymore?
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Does Gallup not conduct election polls anymore?
Should they?
The last Gallup poll had Romney at 49% and Obama at 48%. (http://www.gallup.com/poll/158519/romney-obama-gallup-final-election-survey.aspx)
Seven+ points off the mark was the worst of them all.
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Does Gallup not conduct election polls anymore?
Should they?
The last Gallup poll had Romney at 49% and Obama at 48%. (http://www.gallup.com/poll/158519/romney-obama-gallup-final-election-survey.aspx)
Seven+ points off the mark was the worst of them all.
so is that what happened? they were so bad they don't do them anymore?
that is kind of what happened with zogby i guess
for a long time I thought Gallup was the gold standard..
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Does Gallup not conduct election polls anymore?
Should they?
The last Gallup poll had Romney at 49% and Obama at 48%. (http://www.gallup.com/poll/158519/romney-obama-gallup-final-election-survey.aspx)
Seven+ points off the mark was the worst of them all.
so is that what happened? they were so bad they don't do them anymore?
that is kind of what happened with zogby i guess
for a long time I thought Gallup was the gold standard..
Yeah I just read that they got out of the polling game after the Romney thing there was a great article in wired about the new polling techniques and Gallup couldn't keep Pace with how tech was moving
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Gallup still does "job approval" and "favorability" polling.
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BLR puts out some of the best 'bust your gut' bits consistently
Cruz talks Trump (https://youtu.be/VLkbx5U7EVU)
That guy wants to party and have someone do the pukin' for him
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I still prefer Gallup to an outfit called "Survey Monkey".. I really can't take any poling outfit called "Survey Monkey" seriously....
I wonder if when we get closer to the election we'll see Gallup reintroduced their daily tracking poll....
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Holy Neckbeard, Batman!!
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I still prefer Gallup to an outfit called "Survey Monkey".. I really can't take any poling outfit called "Survey Monkey" seriously....
i assume this is an attempt at a joke?...
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I still prefer Gallup to an outfit called "Survey Monkey".. I really can't take any poling outfit called "Survey Monkey" seriously....
i assume this is an attempt at a joke?...
no why?
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So the green party has decided to take the crackpot route
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So the green party has decided to take the crackpot route
Are you referencing the VP pick, the general divorce from reality all the Bernie people who are moving to Green Party have, or something else entirely?
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I still prefer Gallup to an outfit called "Survey Monkey".. I really can't take any poling outfit called "Survey Monkey" seriously....
i assume this is an attempt at a joke?...
no why?
crap, nevermind, looks like surveymonkey has entered the political polling field (http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/poll-clinton-support-spikes-following-democratic-convention-n621071).
SM is an easy to use online polling service that has been around for years (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SurveyMonkey). there is a free version so if ever you've done more than a few "please fill in our survey" thingies, chances are you've filled in a SM survey. example survey (https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/22XZM8K).
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so does survey monkey, Mailchimp and Gorilla glass all live in the same jungle?
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so does survey monkey, Mailchimp and Gorilla glass all live in the same jungle?
Mailkimp?
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so does survey monkey, Mailchimp and Gorilla glass all live in the same jungle?
Mailkimp?
I wanted to to put that...just wasn't sure if everyone would get it
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First the green party was going after the anti vaccination vote and now it's going after the WiFi hurts children vote.. That along with Saudi Arabia payed for 911
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So the green party has decided to take the crackpot route
the general divorce from reality all the Bernie people who are moving to Green Party have
Latest CNN poll shows 91% of Sanders voters going for Clinton. The rest are split among Green, Libertarian, Putin, and sitter-outers.
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So the green party has decided to take the crackpot route
the general divorce from reality all the Bernie people who are moving to Green Party have
Latest CNN poll shows 91% of Sanders voters going for Clinton. The rest are split among Green, Libertarian, Putin, and sitter-outers.
To be clear, I did not mean "all" the Bernie primary voters were moving to fringe candidates, rather that "all" the ones doing so are divorced from reality.
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wow.. the President just opened a can whoop-ass (sic) on Trump and the Republican Party
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So the green party has decided to take the crackpot route
https://somebodyssister-steinselcer.bandcamp.com/album/somebodys-sister
Here are some Jill Stein grooves to get your day going...
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Donald Trump says The New York Times doesn't "write good" (http://money.cnn.com/2016/08/02/media/donald-trump-new-york-times/)
trump loves, hates babies (http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/02/politics/donald-trump-ashburn-virginia-crying-baby/index.html)
Is Donald Trump just plain crazy? (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/is-donald-trump-just-plain-crazy/2016/08/01/cd171e86-581d-11e6-831d-0324760ca856_story.html?hpid=hp_no-name_opinion-card-c%3Ahomepage%2Fstory)
Donald Trump isn't crazy (http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/02/opinions/trump-isnt-crazy-opinion-dantonio/index.html)
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can i just say the samantha bee piece on the bernie bros sure made me think even less of them... hard to believe some actually heckled john lewis...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRrOqyFv0Sk
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can i just say the samantha bee piece on the bernie bros sure made me think even less of them... hard to believe some actually heckled john lewis...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRrOqyFv0Sk
sometimes I like Bernie more than his supporters but he really ticked me off towards the end....
I decided Bernie is past his shelf life.. a little on the ga ga side... when people reach their mid 70s they are not necessarily the sharpest of tools.... I think he lost touch with reality during the campaign..
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some initial signs that Trump campaign may be unraveling.. it may just be wishful thinking but I'm hopeful....
it also helps my mood we've gone a couple of days without some horrible mass shooting or terrorist attack... i really hope this keeps up.. not trying to jinx anything...
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scary: Donald Trump begins contemplating the unthinkable: He might lose (http://"https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/08/02/donald-trump-begins-contemplating-the-unthinkable-he-might-lose/")
this is not a good thing.
however, it does suggest the foundation of the trump cable new channel...
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some initial signs that Trump campaign may be unraveling.. it may just be wishful thinking but I'm hopeful....
with staff as competent as this one, who would believe that things aren't going great?
Trump spokeswoman blames Obama for 2004 death of Captain Khan (http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/trump-spokeswoman-blames-obama-for-2004-death-of-capt-khan-226598)
as one of my friends wrote on FB, "Of course! The ideas of "linear time" and "causality" are also socially constructed meta-narratives, just like "objective truth". Go, postmodernism! Trump has achieved in less than a year what decades of philosophers and "cultural theorists" had failed."
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scary: Donald Trump begins contemplating the unthinkable: He might lose (http://"https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/08/02/donald-trump-begins-contemplating-the-unthinkable-he-might-lose/")
this is not a good thing.
I cannot see him trailing in the polls in October by ~10% and actually running. He'll say "I have to protect my family from Crooked Hillary's attacks and the rigged system" and drop out so he can claim he did not lose.
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I would start reading Rule # 9 from here:
Rules of the Republican Party (https://s3.amazonaws.com/prod-static-ngop-pbl/docs/Rules_of_the_Republican+Party_FINAL_S14090314.pdf)
If you can see this, it's here:
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Yep, and the Mitt/Pence unity ticket with 3 weeks to campaign and no money would lose pretty badly.
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The election will be rigged?
Is he like a precog or something? is his name really John Anderton?
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to change the mood just for a minute:
So, who were the celebrities in the Democratic convention's cover of 'Fight Song'? (https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/national/so-who-were-the-celebrities-in-the-democratic-conventions-cover-of-fight-song/2016/07/28/25ec3d2a-5512-11e6-b652-315ae5d4d4dd_video.html)
i question the use of the word "celebrities"...
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I would start reading Rule # 9 from here:
Rules of the Republican Party (https://s3.amazonaws.com/prod-static-ngop-pbl/docs/Rules_of_the_Republican+Party_FINAL_S14090314.pdf)
If you can see this, it's here:
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13932907_10157346742035096_3095030373591370863_n.jpg?oh=aef3601ec6fbc9ca915b1e664eea39e0&oe=5828D5B3)
really hard to know which way this is going to swing (which, come to think of it, is how all things are with trump).
interesting read, good discussion of the for and against of dropping out: Could Trump actually drop out of the race? And what would happen if he did? (https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/08/03/could-trump-actually-drop-out-of-the-race-and-what-would-happen-if-he-did/)
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They will not ditch Trump...
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They will not ditch Trump...
I agree. But I do think there's a chance Trump takes his ball and goes home mid-Fall if this is continuing to go the way it has the last week or two.
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Well, his Florida speech did not seem to indicate that he was easing off the throttle, so we wait.
The longer he holds on though, the less likely any replacement nominee can get on every states ballot.
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Rep Kinzinger from Illinois .. a Republican hawk.. will not vote for Donald Trump....
this one is big..because he is not outgoing (like Hanna)...
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Hillary up 10 points in latest FOX Poll..
one can only hope...
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There are a plenty of people, speculating from all different kinds of angles, that she pretty much has this in the bag.
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well I dont; think she does...
I think her odds of winning remain very high..70%....but that is not the same as having it "in the bag"...
having said that, Trump is making it easier on Hillary...
She might have it "in the bag" after the first debate.....but we shall see
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BLR puts out some of the best 'bust your gut' bits consistently
Cruz talks Trump (https://youtu.be/VLkbx5U7EVU)
That guy wants to party and have someone do the pukin' for him
off-topic alert: BLR may also have produced the perfect indie-pop tune, Bushes of Love (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RySHDUU2juM)
amazing counterpoint. i'm hearing Empire of the Sun in there...
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@andy Borowitz
DNC Headquarters Mobbed by Republican Refugees Seeking Asylum
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Donald Trump Claims His Policies Could Have Prevented 9/11, Calls Hillary Clinton 'Founder of ISIS' (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-weve-united-reports-campaign-chaos/story?id=41098857)
there is no bottom.
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^as he gets more desperate it will only get worse
watching POTUS press conference...going to miss him...I think we've had better presidents.. not that many...he was dealt a real bad hand... but have we ever had somebody as cool, calm, collected, and measured?... the way you can literally see the wheels turning in that brain as he answers questions with such precision with the words he selects... in some ways he turned out to be better than even I expected... in others not so much...he lacks- in my estimation- some creativity..
I feel he is going to keep doing these press conferences because when you see him it just underscores how far behind Trump is... how there can be no Trump...how he is not fit or qualified to be President.
Its amazing how his popularity (approval rating) has risen to 54% even at the same time that in some polls up to 70% of people think the country is on the wrong track...
interesting question.. he's issued a lot of commutations but fewest pardons since John Adams!
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I didn't read the story, but this headline is all you need to know
Scientists: Earth Endangered by New Strain of Fact-Resistant Humans (http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/scientists-earth-endangered-by-new-strain-of-fact-resistant-humans)
and yes ....I've become the andy b fan boy
You have to believe I never intended it to happen
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Borowitz is good for a chuckle but not a laugh out loud guffaw...
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scathing take-down of trump by the Harvard Republican Club:
"In every presidential election since 1888, the members and Executive Board of the Harvard Republican Club have gathered to discuss, debate, and eventually endorse the standard-bearer of our party. But for the first time in 128 years, we, the oldest College Republicans chapter in the nation, will not be endorsing the Republican nominee."
continued: https://www.facebook.com/HarvardGOP/posts/1190758900944693
i think they covered just about everything... what an indictment.
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+255,000 jobs in July... better than expected.. and better news than any poll...
only three more jobs reports to go until election...
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I heard some talk about, "what if trump walks away, or what if they can get trump to give in to be replaced?" why would he do that, and who will fill those shoes?
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I heard some talk about, "what if trump walks away, or what if they can get trump to give in to be replaced?" why would he do that, and who will fill those shoes?
We've actually discussed this at length in the last few pages.
Short-ish version: because if its apparent he is going to lose, if he actually stays in and loses, he then "lost" and has to eat shit, which is literally the worst thing imaginable to an egomaniac. However if he "drops out", say in late-September or October and says "the system is rigged and I need to protect my family from Crooked Hillary's attacks," then he didn't "lose." He took his ball and went home, and can talk forever and ever about how he could've won if he really wanted to.
For the second part of your question, if Trump dies, drops out, or (pending the inevitable lawsuit) the RNC just basically decides they want to dump him for no reason, the 160-something members of the RNC get together in a backroom and basically elect a new nominee. This person would almost assuredly lose the election by a near historic magin and probably would not be listed on the ballot in many states. (Each state has a deadline for when people can last be added/removed from the ballot in that state. That deadline is now or soon approaching in many states.)
One of the reasons Hillary's margin of victory would be so astronomical in this situation -- aside from the fact that the American people are literally going to hate 160 fatcats declaring a new nominee that no one got to vote on -- is that in many states you're going to have Hillary, Trump, and New Nominee listed (since Trumps name cannot be removed after a certain deadline) and in others just Hillary and Trump (with GOP members instructed to write-in the new person) and in others Hillary and New Nominee (with Trump hardliners writing in Trump as a protest), which would split the Republican vote in half. Super red states that Hillary would lose 60 to 40 she could win 40 to 35 to 25.
In other words, it'd be a goddamned mess.
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In other words, it'd be a goddamned mess.
and I can't wait to play my fiddle as the GOP burns to the ground
If it could only have a positive outcome for the Dems in the house and senate races...now that would be awesome
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Trump could absolutely affect the Senate races. A four-seat shift is utterly possible.
That said, the House is so gerrymandered its beyond hope. In 2012, IIRC, over a million more people voted for Democratic house candidates than Republican ones and the GOP came out with a 30-something seat majority. :-/
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I don't agree.. everything is up for grabs....doesn't mean its likely but its all up for grabs...one could see voters become disgusted with Republicans in general (they look like clowns right now fighting it out among themselves over Trump) over their disgust for Trump and deciding to give the democrats a deciding win.....
I do think the Senate will be retaken... Feingold will win Wisconsin in a walk and there are other Democratic pickups.. Republicans will have a tough time holding on to PA, IL, NH and other places...I dont' know every pickup opportunity but there are a few..
Depending on factors that can't be predicted like terror attacks, release of further Hillary emails, first debate and crazy Trump statements anything can happen...
But at this point a Hillary victory looks quite likely... I'm not so sure people are going to just forget or ignore the things Trump has been saying.. people keep talking about him as if 1) he can magically change and 2) people will buy that change....
It is possible that the media will conspire to create a tighter race in order to boost their ratings and people's interest....
I also think Hillary is going to wipe the floor with Donald at the first debate....She is a very good debater.... I remember the 20 Obama-Clinton debates... I never felt the President beat her much as I wanted him to.... and Trump is like a little boy.. you can easily see her getting under his skin or him- seeing himself behind in the polls- making some insane assertions that serve to further bury him.... Meanwhile, Hillary is so disciplined and has such grasp on policy its hard to see her failing... Yes, Gore was smarter than Bush and lost but Gore was not even close to where Hillary is... and Trump is nowhere close to where Bush was....Also we know the people running the debates are going to ask specific policy questions regarding foreign policy and the economy... Trump - in a one on one debate- will not be able to hide like he did during the primaries...His inconsistencies are bound to be exposed...
We are one week out from the end of the Democratic Convention and Hillary is in an enviable position. The latest poll we have seen has her up FOUR points in Georgia... Now I'm not saying she is going to win there but there has been a notable shift the past week....First of all the Republican Convention looked like a clown show compared to the Democratic Convention and then Trump said some incredibly stupid shit which I dont' think is as easy to walk back as some seem to say..
ANd what if the economy gains lets say another 750,000 jobs in the next three months? And Obama's approval rating remains at 54%... its just a real slog for Republicans even against an unpopular candidate (which could also change...)
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I don't agree.. everything is up for grabs....doesn't mean its likely but its all up for grabs...
Sure. But I would put better odds on Donald Trump winning the Presidency than the Dems taking back the House.
I do think the Senate will be retaken... Feingold will win Wisconsin in a walk and there are other Democratic pickups.. Republicans will have a tough time holding on to PA, IL, NH and other places...I dont' know every pickup opportunity but there are a few..
The polling is sketchy but Evan Bayh supposedly leads in Indiana. INDIANA!
I also think Hillary is going to wipe the floor with Donald at the first debate....She is a very good debater.... I remember the 20 Obama-Clinton debates... I never felt the President beat her much as I wanted him to.... and Trump is like a little boy.. you can easily see her getting under his skin or him- seeing himself behind in the polls- making some insane assertions that serve to further bury him.... Meanwhile, Hillary is so disciplined and has such grasp on policy its hard to see her failing...
The debates are going to be hilarious. You can already see Trump trying to get out of them with the whole NFL thing.
The latest poll we have seen has her up FOUR points in Georgia... Now I'm not saying she is going to win there but there has been a notable shift the past week....
I've been banging the Georgia polling drum for months. Hillary goes up another point or two in the National polls and I'm going to start drunkenly saying insane things about Mississippi. EDIT: Also, most recent reputable poll (with Johnson included) has Hillary within 3% in Texas.
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If I wasn't on my mobile, I'd quote myself from a few months ago saying his Primary Strategy is going to kill him in the general:
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trump-campaign-memo-unlikely-voters/
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So trump is now walking back his claim about the pallets of cash going to the Iranian government... Yet one knows it's out there and people will be bringing it as fact for generations to come
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Trump is swallowing a lot of crow today... going to endorse Ryan tonight.. so fake!
what are opinions on whether as a Hillary or Democratic supporter one should or should not want Gary Johnson included in the debates?
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what are opinions on whether as a Hillary or Democratic supporter one should or should not want Gary Johnson included in the debates?
I can't think legitimizing Johnson as an option in any way is a positive for the Hillary campaign. On a personal level, I would like to see minor party candidates included as a practice.
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what are opinions on whether as a Hillary or Democratic supporter one should or should not want Gary Johnson included in the debates?
I can't think legitimizing Johnson as an option in any way is a positive for the Hillary campaign. On a personal level, I would like to see minor party candidates included as a practice.
Yeah.. that is kind of my thinking...
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http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/is-georgia-becoming-a-battleground-state/
You can read 538 today, or you can just read Julian's posts from the last several months. Choose wisely.
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Evan McMullin running for President. A Republican. Not sure if he has money behind him.. .. he's going to need a TON to accomplish anything...
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Evan McMullin running for President. A Republican. Not sure if he has money behind him.. .. he's going to need a TON to accomplish anything...
If he gets on the ballot in Utah along with Johnson (but not Stein), things can get weird in that state.
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538's Current "If the election was today" Map:
(http://i.imgur.com/KNUbDjG.jpg)
I do not think it's going as well as Donald Trump thinks. (Yes, that is South Carolina for Hillary Clinton.)
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I just spent almost 48 hours in Idaho. 538 is correct - he's winning there for sure.
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I just spent almost 48 hours in Idaho. 538 is correct - he's winning there for sure.
Have cousin in Boise, can confirm.
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Just spent the weekend with my in-laws in Indiana. Fox News was reporting about people criticizing the Trump boys for shooting lions. Father-in-law replied: "WELL HILLARY WANTS TO KILL BABIES." Two votes there for Trump, I think.
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Just spent the weekend with my in-laws in Indiana. Fox News was reporting about people criticizing the Trump boys for shooting lions. Father-in-law replied: "WELL HILLARY WANTS TO KILL BABIES." Two votes there for Trump, I think.
Have seen Hillary grind up infants and spread the paste on crackers a la caviar, can confirm.
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Just spent the weekend with my in-laws in Indiana. Fox News was reporting about people criticizing the Trump boys for shooting lions. Father-in-law replied: "WELL HILLARY WANTS TO KILL BABIES." Two votes there for Trump, I think.
Have seen Hillary grind up infants and spread the paste on crackers a la caviar, can confirm.
Without safe and legal abortion, Chelsea would probably have a gaggle of half-sibs.
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I just spent almost 48 hours in Idaho. 538 is correct - he's winning there for sure.
Have cousin in Boise, can confirm.
Read this Economist Article on the plane from Coeur dAlene to Seattle and found it pretty spot on:
A movement of staunch conservatives and doomsday-watchers to the inland northwest is quietly gaining steam (http://www.economist.com/news/united-states/21703411-movement-staunch-conservatives-and-doomsday-watchers-inland-north-west)
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Evan McMullin running for President. A Republican. Not sure if he has money behind him.. .. he's going to need a TON to accomplish anything...
"The deadline for filing (http://www.npr.org/2016/08/08/489174101/meet-evan-mcmullin-the-nevertrump-movements-last-hope) as an independent presidential candidate has already passed in 26 states." </candidacy>
on the plus side, he's going to steal some votes away from trump, which isn't a bad thing.
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I've noticed this myself
http://varianceexplained.org/r/trump-tweets/
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I've noticed this myself
http://varianceexplained.org/r/trump-tweets/
^^ Great read, every word of it.
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^ fascinating!
also:
Lots of very reputable people are talking and they?re saying Donald Trump donated to NAMBLA (http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/299570/trump-nambla-rumors-reddit-bot/)
It seems like everywhere on the internet, lots of people are talking about whether Donald Trump donated money to the North American Man-Boy Love Association and is refusing to release his tax returns out of fear he?ll be outed as a closeted pedophile. It?s all over Twitter and Google Trends.
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Is NAMBLA a 501(c)(3) you can write off donations to on your taxes? I'm seriously asking; I'm not googling that question. Hi, NSA!!
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Is NAMBLA a 501(c)(3) you can write off donations to on your taxes? I'm seriously asking; I'm not googling that question. Hi, NSA!!
CTRL+SHIFT+N
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I've noticed this myself
http://varianceexplained.org/r/trump-tweets/
^^ Great read, every word of it.
Hutch, that might be the best thing you've ever posted on this board.
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An Oral History of the Time Deadspin Told Donald Trump to Go Fuck Himself (http://deadspin.com/an-oral-history-of-the-go-fuck-yourself-tweet-to-dona-1785034101)
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Dumbfounded:
Candace SmithVerified account
@CandaceSmith_
Trump on Clinton: "If she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do folks." Adds, "Though the second amendment folks, maybe there is..."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcxkkrNSv-4kyndofbird
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^ fascinating!
also:
Lots of very reputable people are talking and they?re saying Donald Trump donated to NAMBLA (http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/299570/trump-nambla-rumors-reddit-bot/)
It seems like everywhere on the internet, lots of people are talking about whether Donald Trump donated money to the North American Man-Boy Love Association and is refusing to release his tax returns out of fear he?ll be outed as a closeted pedophile. It?s all over Twitter and Google Trends.
Oh, sweet Jesus. I can't even fathom how he'll spin this.
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From a few minutes of privacy-mode Googling, NAMBLA seems to have lost its tax exempt status in 1996. (Layperson take upcoming:) If Donald Trump gave them money, he couldn't write it off on his taxes. Therefore, a reveal of his taxes wouldn't show any connection to NAMBLA.
This to me just seems like Trump is moving into Bill Simmons' Tyson Zone: we're at the point where literally any story about Trump, no matter how illogical or insane on its face, is presumed true "because TRUMP".
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great . . . now I have to look at the guy, totally differently now, even if it is not true, because that is what we do, here in America.
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people are saying he is on the Board of NAMBLA... lots of people...
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omg . . . it was a robot that invented this conspiracy theory. jesus, I love you, and this election.
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omg . . . it was a robot that invented this conspiracy theory. jesus, I love you, and this election.
Even SkyNet hates this guy.
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Dammit - I wish I had thought of this:
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@allofmilov Maybe 19th amendment people can do something about Trump
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"you see the polls have really tightened over the last day or two.. we're going to have a big victory.. I really feel that..."
talk about delusional... I mean what polls is he talking about?
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"you see the polls have really tightened over the last day or two.. we're going to have a big victory.. I really feel that..."
talk about delusional... I mean what polls is he talking about?
He's moved back a point up in South Carolina and is only expected to lose by 170 electoral votes now!
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Bring back whale blubber for lamps!
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"you see the polls have really tightened over the last day or two.. we're going to have a big victory.. I really feel that..."
talk about delusional... I mean what polls is he talking about?
he is delusional
but Hill is not crushing it in the polls this last week
Rasmussen Reports 8/9 - 8/10 Clinton +3
Economist/YouGov 8/6 - 8/9 Clinton +6
Bloomberg 8/5 - 8/8 Clinton +4
I would think she'd have a +10 lead
I'm pretty certain these are nationwide and not electoral college based
edit...I do like this 'no toss up map' (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/2016_elections_electoral_college_map_no_toss_ups.html)
Also predicting 50/50 split in the senate
Stein and Johnson seem to be getting a lot in these polls too
but people in the poll booth probably won't pull the trigger, so much easier to say you like their policies than actually vote these 3rd parties
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well.... Rasmussen had pretty much had Trump up the entire time... different polls have different tendencies.. if you look at Rasmussen back on July 13 (less than one month ago) they had Trump at +7! So we're talking about a 10 point swing... I could look at the other polls but I'm not too into doing this for you SideOfBacon....
I will say that whatever happens we know abourt 40% of the electorate will support the Republican candidate.... they loathe Hillary and they're not going to change their mind no matter what..
The question is that 10% in the middle (a small portion of reasonable educated Republicans, real independents, etc.)... That will make the difference between Hillary eking out a win or a landslide... its still a fluid situation... Of course, this is why I felt so strongly that Bernie Sanders was a terrible idea.. because his appeal to the middle.. his chances of flipping Republicans were next to zero.. which is why your posts on this thread have been really frustrating.. things like "I like Sanders because his pulling her to the left and we need that...".. NO. Hillary is doing well because she is appealing to Republicans and people int he middle... this whole "Bernie supporters won't vote for her" was a load of crap.
anyways...we will see how things go....but the situation is very fluid.. due to various factors: emails could leak out compromising Hillary in the eyes of some people, Trump could do something weird (more weird), there could be god forbid shootings and attacks....
I just can't see reasonable people agreeing that President Obama and Hillary CLinton founded ISIS...but if you listen to Limbaugh or right wing radio there is a substantial part of the Republican Party that believes this crazy crap
I wouldn't take anything for granted and do what you can for Hillary...
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Let me be more specifc..
"they loathe Hillary and President Obama..."
People that loathe them to the point of frothing at the mouth like rabid dogs are not going to vote for Hillary....and most Republicans are this way.... which is why all this trying to get along with Republicans is a waste of time.. they need to be crushed like bugs.. if you know somebody who is a Republican they are likely intolerant stupid hater people who support racism and all kinds of stuff. they need to be called out for it.. its not just a "difference of opinion".. its not just a "difference of opinion" when their idea is that "President Obama is the founder of ISIS..."
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Rasmussen is the Magic 8-Ball of poll takers.
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Hill Dawg is the Meme Queen
https://www.facebook.com/superdeluxevideo/videos/314815295529694/
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538 is Soliciting a Witch Hunt to Figure Out Who is Behind LongRoom.com (http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/whos-behind-a-mysterious-website-saying-polls-are-skewed-against-trump/)
If ever my acclaimed deep-Google-rabbit-hole "stalking" skills could be put to a good use, it is this.
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wow I had no idea such a page existed....
its kind of amusing how Trump supporter hopes seem to rely on "the Bradley effect"..
I'm a pretty good internet sleuth myself but am sure nowhere near your skills... your letter identifying my children's blood types and favorite colors is proof of that fact.. ;D
On my end I was able to track down family from my mom's side - from Poland - about 100 years after they separated and my ancestors lost touch with them.. I was pretty proud I have to say...the guy told me "he had tears in his eyes" when I reached out to him and that they "had heard rumours of a brother (my grandfather) who had gone to Argentina..."... Anyways, I went to one of the freefests with the son of that crying guy.. one of the cooler moments in my life..
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538 is Soliciting a Witch Hunt to Figure Out Who is Behind LongRoom.com (http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/whos-behind-a-mysterious-website-saying-polls-are-skewed-against-trump/)
If ever my acclaimed deep-Google-rabbit-hole "stalking" skills could be put to a good use, it is this.
:-\ longroom.com site isn't up any more
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538 is Soliciting a Witch Hunt to Figure Out Who is Behind LongRoom.com (http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/whos-behind-a-mysterious-website-saying-polls-are-skewed-against-trump/)
If ever my acclaimed deep-Google-rabbit-hole "stalking" skills could be put to a good use, it is this.
:-\ longroom.com site isn't up any more
You're welcome.
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I just got a call from American Crossroads PAC.. the Karl Rove outfit.. it was kind of push-polly.... I could tell it was Republican deal.. under Virginia law at the end they have to disclose who they are....Anyways...I'm probably the only person in America that enjoys doing these "polls" and answered all the questions even if I took issue with one or two.... :D
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^ u, win
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Looks like Hillary camp/PAC/whatsthediff will pull ads from VA, CO and PA
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because they think those states are in the bag? bold... not necessarily wise.
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because they think those states are in the bag? bold... not necessarily wise.
But using the money downballot and in Texas (which might flip) is. Flipping Texas would put the hurt on the GOP for decades.
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(https://cdn.ampproject.org/i/assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.2754243.1471406985!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_635/gop-2016-convention.jpg)
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I'm bummed DC didn't get one of the nekkid Trump statues
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I'm bummed DC didn't get one of the nekkid Trump statues
The Castro did and my FB Feed has been amazing...
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so what is the deal with democratic governor of Louisiana having Trump there photo-opping down there?
I mean even Christie- a REPUBLICAN- told Romney to take a flying leap.. but a democrat has Trump down there?
I must be missing something...
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Louisiana
There's your answer!
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^nope
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/john-bel-edwards-trump-louisiana-visit-227194?hl=1&noRedirect=1
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Sounds good to me...
https://www.samharris.org/blog/item/what-hillary-clinton-should-say-about-islam-and-the-war-on-terror
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Sounds good to me...
https://www.samharris.org/blog/item/what-hillary-clinton-should-say-about-islam-and-the-war-on-terror
If there is a terrorist attack in the US she'll say something new on the subject.. otherwise she won't...
We can debate what she should say til the cows come home but its not going to change things....... they've made their calculation...
If I were the terrorists I would fear a Hillary presidency far more than a Trump one... She's almost too hawkish actually.. in comparison Trump talks a big game but in reality wants to farm out the job to others...It was noticeable watching Trump's speech on ISIS that he said absolutely nothing new (other than maybe the "extreme vetting")....
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whoa...this thread is on the third page now!
But can I tell you how excited I am to have access to taco trucks
I mean on every freaking corner, sounds awesome
I'm just not sure they thought out the logistics on that one
Relaxer...is there a reason you've been avoiding this thread
pad your post count with some pithy commentary
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151,000
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ugh....
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I am depressed
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/fbi-aide-destroyed-two-clintons-194923529.html
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POTW!
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Its labor day or the so called official beginning of the election... we are 63 days out from election day with early voting starting soon in some localities... the first debate is about three weeks away..
I agree with the AP.. this is the way it looks to me today:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/ap-rates-presidential-race-road-270-061152169.html
the key wouldn't you know it is HRC holding strong in VA... combined with the democrats looking strong -as would be expected- in PA, MI, WI that really frees her up and puts DJT on his heels....DJT really needs a big change to happen in order to make a run in VA, something I consider next to impossible, or otherwise flip PA, also in my opinion next to impossible, or barring that sweep virtually everything else....
The only advantage I can see for DJT is that a 269-269 tie would go to the house and result in a DJT presidency.... if it were to go to the Senate I am not so sure but that is not the way the founding fathers intended it...
Given Hillary's own serious problems I see no chance of the House flipping and even little chance for the Senate to flip although the Senate will be close..my bullishness has moderated over the past three weeks.... My advice to Democrats is to focus on the White House.
In more good news for HRC at the moment it seems unlikely that Gary Johnson will make the debates... she also had a great great fundraising month in August.. maybe the best month ever in a presidential campaign .. her and other groups supporting her raised close to $150 million... she has a lot of resources...
Gun violence, shootings of defenseless black people, shootings of cops and even terrorist attacks have all thankfully moderated in the past few weeks... if this holds up, and there are good reasons to worry it won't, this will be another advantage for HRC.. the economy while not wowing people continues to hold up with low but steady economic growth.... President Obama's approval rating seems to be high.... and while HRC is not trusted by a majority of the American people another majority of the American people, a larger and more important one, considers Trump unstable/unqualified for the presidency....
so all in all continued reasons to be cautiously optimistic...
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.... My advice to Democrats is to focus on the White House
Man...I think DJT is giving the Dems a golden opportunity to focus on congress and not the electoral college
Yes dems got to get the vote out, but it's a done deal if nothing goes totally sideways
I think focusing on the swing states (when in reality there are few) is a fools gamble
They should go for crushing the Senate and making major strides in the house
and Gary Johnson...
how does he hurt hilary?
If anything Dems should be throwing money at his campaign
He's going to pull the intelligent vote away from the trumpster
He'll do a great job of showing what a sham of a candidate don is
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So basically it's unmarried women who are the only people who favor Hillary? Wow.
Women break for Clinton (53% to 38%) while men shift Trump's way (54% to 32%). Among women, those who are unmarried make up the core of her support, 73% of unmarried women back Clinton compared with just 36% of married women. Among men, no such marriage gap emerges, as both unmarried and married men favor Trump.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/06/_politics-zone-injection/trump-vs-clinton-presidential-polls-election-2016/index.html
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.... My advice to Democrats is to focus on the White House
Man...I think DJT is giving the Dems a golden opportunity to focus on congress and not the electoral college
Yes dems got to get the vote out, but it's a done deal if nothing goes totally sideways
I think focusing on the swing states (when in reality there are few) is a fools gamble
They should go for crushing the Senate and making major strides in the house
and Gary Johnson...
how does he hurt hilary?
If anything Dems should be throwing money at his campaign
He's going to pull the intelligent vote away from the trumpster
He'll do a great job of showing what a sham of a candidate don is
Don't quit your job to become a political analyst.
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So basically it's unmarried women who are the only people who favor Hillary? Wow.
I stopped reading the poll right here:
This sample includes 601 interviews among landline respondents and 400
interviews among cell phone respondents.
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They should go for crushing the Senate and making major strides in the house
Donald Trump has made Tricky Senate Races Harder for Republicans Downballot (http://www.economist.com/news/united-states/21706273-donald-trump-has-made-tricky-set-senate-races-harder-republicans-downballot)
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Trump is in danger of of losing white college graduates?won by every Republican presidential candidate since 1952 - which would be incredible. He's getting hammered in college-educated women staggering margins of 57% to 38%, or more. Married or otherwise....
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Trump is in danger of of losing white college graduates?won by every Republican presidential candidate since 1952 - which would be incredible. He's getting hammered in college-educated women staggering margins of 57% to 38%, or more. Married or otherwise....
Sure, but only 32.7% of women are college-educated.
http://www.statista.com/statistics/184272/educational-attainment-of-college-diploma-or-higher-by-gender/
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Trump is in danger of of losing white college graduates?won by every Republican presidential candidate since 1952 - which would be incredible. He's getting hammered in college-educated women staggering margins of 57% to 38%, or more. Married or otherwise....
Sure, but only 32.7% of women are college-educated.
http://www.statista.com/statistics/184272/educational-attainment-of-college-diploma-or-higher-by-gender/
Sure, but what's their percentage of voter turnout vs lesser educated?
It's also one of the fastest growing demographics.
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They should go for crushing the Senate and making major strides in the house
Donald Trump has made Tricky Senate Races Harder for Republicans Downballot (http://www.economist.com/news/united-states/21706273-donald-trump-has-made-tricky-set-senate-races-harder-republicans-downballot)
"...that looked perfectly doable even before the Republicans put an intemperate bigot, with a sketchy state-level campaign effort, at the top of their ticket."
;D
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Don't quit your job to become a political analyst.
and don't quit your 'cranky old man' job either
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This sample includes 601 interviews among landline respondents and 400
interviews among cell phone respondents.
Crimony. Not just a microscopic sample size (and embarrassingly so for an outlet as large as CNN) but heavily skewed towards older folks who cling to old tech (and don't screen their calls).
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Daniel Hiddleswift @kibblesmith 17m17 minutes ago
"What is Aleppo?" - The guy your most condescending Facebook friend is still voting for
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Daniel Hiddleswift @kibblesmith 17m17 minutes ago
"What is Aleppo?" - The guy your most condescending Facebook friend is still voting for
Every time I hear his radio ads, I think of this:
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What's a "radio ad"?
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What's a "radio ad"?
The best medium for reaching out to "Millennials" (who he references multiple times) according to the Gary Johnson campaign.
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Gary Johnson has zero charisma.
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what is aleppo?
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what is aleppo?
Where is Cousin Oliver when Hutch needs him most?!
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what is aleppo?
The guy your most condescending Facebook friend is still voting for
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I saw the best bumper sticker today:
GIANT METEOR
2016
End it already!
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I still think that even with weakness the past few weeks Hillary is in the drivers seat because even in a worst case scenario the combination of VA/PA/NH/CO/NM cannot be beaten....but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't concerned....She's likely going to go into the debates needing to perform to expectations....She's just not proving to be a strong candidate it must be said....
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Donald Trump?s supporters: Easy targets
Hillary Clinton was criticised last week for saying that half of Mr Trump?s supporters belong in a ?basket of deplorables?. But how deplorable are they? YouGov places 58% of Trump fans in the top quartile for ?racial resentment?, an indirect proxy for racism. And 51.8% would support a constitutional amendment allowing states to ban gay marriage. But caution is needed before declaring Mrs Clinton?s claim vindicated, writes The Economist data team (http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2016/09/daily-chart-8?cid1=cust%2Fddnew%2Fn%2Fn%2Fn%2F20160913n%2Fowned%2Fn%2Fn%2Fnwl%2Fn%2Fn%2FNA%2Femail&etear=dailydispatch)
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polls not good ... freak out commencing...
I say this is just beginning....but evidently Donald Trump will have to do more than shoot somebody in broad daylight on 5th Ave. to bleed support...
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Trump is in danger of of losing white college graduates?won by every Republican presidential candidate since 1952 - which would be incredible. He's getting hammered in college-educated women staggering margins of 57% to 38%, or more. Married or otherwise....
Sure, but only 32.7% of women are college-educated.
http://www.statista.com/statistics/184272/educational-attainment-of-college-diploma-or-higher-by-gender/
Sure, but what's their percentage of voter turnout vs lesser educated?
It's also one of the fastest growing demographics.
What Separates Voters and Nonvoters? (http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/09/13/us/politics/what-separates-voters-and-nonvoters.html)
For those that don't like numbers: The richer, older and more educated you are, the more likely you are to vote.
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man things are in the shitter...
i'm dreading this debate... may not even watch it....it kind of feels like watching a world cup final with argentina playing to me...intense pressure....
i keep reading different things.. some people say hillary needs to be nice and take the high road.. others say she needs to wail on him, not be nice and prosecute his lies... i tend to think its the second one....
i fear hillary comes into the debate needing a really good performance more than trump... trump can always count on debate 3 with the fox moderator
i know i need to buck up..
i did some "canvassing" for Hillary on Saturday.... here in North Arlington.... god I hate bothering people..... I've chipped in some money but I'm feeling less excited about chipping in money because it just seems like she has so much more than Trump....
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I really don't understand this election cycle. . .
I get it Hillary has been secretive, but it's apparently been a part of her character since her earliest days. It's probably a part of being a woman in and around the political field.
Hillary's power hungry, but isn't anyone and everyone a little power hungry, is Donald Trump any less power hungry?
She's made a lot of money. . . Isn't that Trump's whole campaign?
The weirdest part I see is how in a way Trump is like a cartoon version of George W. Bush without the quaint compassionate conservativeism. People are literally saying he'll just surround himself with other people who will do the work. Or I'm voting for Pence. Maybe I'm wrong but the only thing I remember of the GWB years is a refund check that my family never received, years of war, and an economic bust.
People are multifaceted, and I can't see how Hillary can't better capitalize of the facet of her life and career that has seen her work very hard for others in this country. I can't believe that both her campaign and others opposed to Trump can't come up with anything better essentially than he's bad. That's not working, people don't care. People think that by voting Trump in they're making a militaristic statement that will somehow revolutionize this country by any means necessary.
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totally agree... just pointing out the million Trump lies or saying he is a racist Hitler is just not working.... Its hard to believe that with all the money and paid consultants Hillary campaign has they can't do better... They're running against a guy who has virtually been a one man campaign and didn't even run any ads for months
the dilbert creator has done a pretty good job of explaining trump.. .
i think at this point what it comes down to is people seem to have decided they are sick and tired of hillary and just don't like her very much... all Trump has to do is demonstrate he is a plausible president.. in other words its more about people not liking Hillary than anything else...it doesn't matter the bazillion crazy and horrible things trump has said and done if people are sick and tired of Hillary... the "favorability rating" which Hillary and Trump are both really low but Hillary is up in doesn't seem to do much for her.. the Obama approval rating which is quite high seems to matter not.. the economy strengthening and creating jobs month after month seems to matter not....and one could go on listing all the reasons Hillary should be able to make a good argument for herself.... maybe if she stopped simply running as an anti-Trump "he has to be stopped" candiddate and spent more time on policy and running on her record she'd do better.... every single Hillary tv ad i have seen is basically little kids or old vets watching Trump say stupid shit.... well its obviously not working.... and if the campaign doesn't do some kind of reboot soon they will be in trouble.. heck, based on the latest polls they are in trouble... they seem to just be set in this pattern of trying to find dirt on Trump (as if there isn't enough disqualifying shit out there that is not disqualifying him), calling Trump a racist and begging for money to run more anti-Trump ads, and waiting for Trump to say something crazy... I fear without a strong performance tonight where she puts him in his place/exposes him the bottom could fall out of her campaign...
take the debates.. HRC and her campaign are making a big deal about the moderators calling Trump out on his lies.. WTF? just have a good debate and call him a liar to his face all night while stating some FUCKING POLICY people like.. don't wait for fucking Lester Holt to go "ugh actually Mr Trump..".. and definitely don't act "nice" if a fake affable Trump shows up... cause tomorrow Trump will be back to being a jerkoff and this is your chance to confront him one on one.
take the debate prep... we got the HRC emphasizing for weeks that she is preparing for the debates.. meanwhile Trump says he is not preparing.... she comes in looking like a politician.. he comes in looking like a regular honest joe... (BTW I am sure Trump is preparing but its smart for him to say he is not.. and its kind of dumb in my opinion for HRC and her camp to keep telling us she is locked away preparing and preparing for different Trump's including "affable Trump"?? WTF?)
i'm pretty ticked off at HRC campaign right now...I wont' even mention all the stupid fundraising emails i get from her about how the sky is falling and Trump is leading in this poll or that.. very inspiring HRC! well its not my fucking fault he is leading in the polls.. you've spent hundreds of millions of dollars on ads more than he has. do a better fucking job as a candidate.
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You make it sound like they (the Dems) should have went with Bernie. Or any plausible candidate.
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You make it sound like they (the Dems) should have went with Bernie. Or any plausible candidate.
Sanders was the only other candidate so there were no other plausible candidates....also what is plausible one month can change very quickly...things are not static..
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You make it sound like they (the Dems) should have went with Bernie. Or any plausible candidate.
Sanders was the only other candidate so there were no other plausible candidates....also what is plausible one month can change very quickly...things are not static..
Jim Webb was my preference. O'Malley was in it too. The hate factor would have been less for both.
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You make it sound like they (the Dems) should have went with Bernie. Or any plausible candidate.
Sanders was the only other candidate so there were no other plausible candidates....also what is plausible one month can change very quickly...things are not static..
Jim Webb was my preference.
ugghhh
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Hillary 1
Donald 0
Lester -1
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Hillary 1
Donald 0
Lester -1
you're so pithy.
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Hillary 1
Donald 0
Lester -1
Don't forget Sean Hannity - 1
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Damn, I'm so tired. I was up all night trying to give Sean Hannity a call.
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i did some "canvassing" for Hillary on Saturday.... here in North Arlington.... god I hate bothering people..... I've chipped in some money but I'm feeling less excited about chipping in money because it just seems like she has so much more than Trump....
Dude you need to come to South Arlington where the Latino Hutch Nation is.
I think just about everyone in N. Arl is going to vote and mostly for Hil
South you and your language skills could really help the Hillary campaign the most
and kudos for you for putting your money where your mouth is and doing something instead of just bitchin like everyone else
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Damn, I'm so tired. I was up all night trying to give Sean Hannity a call.
+1 space
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TRUMP: That's called business, by the way.
TRUMP: She talks about solar panels. We invested in a solar company, our country. That was a disaster. They lost plenty of money on that one.
TRUMP: And look at her website. You know what? It's no difference than this. She's telling us how to fight ISIS. Just go to her website. She tells you how to fight ISIS on her website. I don't think General Douglas MacArthur would like that too much.
TRUMP: Well, I'm really calling for major jobs, because the wealthy are going create tremendous jobs. They're going to expand their companies. They're going to do a tremendous job. I'm getting rid of the carried interest provision. And if you really look, it's not a tax -- it's really not a great thing for the wealthy. It's a great thing for the middle class. It's a great thing for companies to expand.
TRUMP: It shows income -- in fact, the income -- I just looked today -- the income is filed at $694 million for this past year, $694 million. If you would have told me I was going to make that 15 or 20 years ago, I would have been very surprised. [Later:] The other thing, I'm extremely underleveraged. The report that said $650 -- which, by the way, a lot of friends of mine that know my business say, boy, that's really not a lot of money. It's not a lot of money relative to what I had.
TRUMP: That makes me smart.
TRUMP: It would be squandered, too, believe me.
TRUMP: No, you're wrong. It went before a judge, who was a very against-police judge.
TRUMP: Ugh.
TRUMP: I'll tell you very -- well, just very simple to say. Sidney Blumenthal works for the campaign and close -- very close friend of Secretary Clinton. And her campaign manager, Patti Doyle, went to -- during the campaign, her campaign against President Obama, fought very hard. And you can go look it up, and you can check it out.
TRUMP: Well, it was very -- I say nothing. I say nothing, because I was able to get him to produce it. He should have produced it a long time before. I say nothing. But let me just tell you. When you talk about healing, I think that I've developed very, very good relationships over the last little while with the African-American community. I think you can see that. And I feel that they really wanted me to come to that conclusion. And I think I did a great job and a great service not only for the country, but even for the president, in getting him to produce his birth certificate.
TRUMP: I'll go one step further. In Palm Beach, Florida, tough community, a brilliant community, a wealthy community, probably the wealthiest community there is in the world, I opened a club, and really got great credit for it.
TRUMP: I don't think anybody knows it was Russia that broke into the DNC. She's saying Russia, Russia, Russia, but I don't -- maybe it was. I mean, it could be Russia, but it could also be China. It could also be lots of other people. It also could be somebody sitting on their bed that weighs 400 pounds, OK?
TRUMP: And when he -- excuse me. And that was before the war started. Sean Hannity said very strongly to me and other people -- he's willing to say it, but nobody wants to call him. I was against the war. He said, you used to have fights with me, because Sean was in favor of the war.
TRUMP: I have a much better -- she spent -- let me tell you -- she spent hundreds of millions of dollars on an advertising -- you know, they get Madison Avenue into a room, they put names -- oh, temperament, let's go after -- I think my strongest asset, maybe by far, is my temperament. I have a winning temperament. I know how to win. She does not have a...
TRUMP: Wait. The AFL-CIO the other day, behind the blue screen, I don't know who you were talking to, Secretary Clinton, but you were totally out of control.
TRUMP: I agree with her on one thing. The single greatest problem the world has is nuclear armament, nuclear weapons, not global warming, like you think and your -- your president thinks.
TRUMP: You know, Hillary is hitting me with tremendous commercials. Some of it's said in entertainment. Some of it's said -- somebody who's been very vicious to me, Rosie O'Donnell, I said very tough things to her, and I think everybody would agree that she deserves it and nobody feels sorry for her.
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Most of the "polls" I've seen on websites say he won the debate
what is wrong with this fucking country
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http://www.gq.com/story/a-word-for-donald-trump-voters
This sums it all up for me.
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Most of the "polls" I've seen on websites say he won the debate
what is wrong with this fucking country
Virtually every media mainstream outlet has said Hillary won by a wide margin (one of the top 3 focus group debate-polling wins in the history of doing them).
Media polls run by pollsters make sure you have a good cross sample and people vote once. /r/TheDonald can skew any online poll because they can vote 8 trillion times each.
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Hillary 1
Donald 0
Lester -1
Don't forget Sean Hannity - 1
sorry, i missed this... why? because trump mentioned him during the debate, thus dragging him down? did hannity do something stupid after the debate?
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Most of the "polls" I've seen on websites say he won the debate
what is wrong with this fucking country
Virtually every media mainstream outlet has said Hillary won by a wide margin (one of the top 3 focus group debate-polling wins in the history of doing them).
Media polls run by pollsters make sure you have a good cross sample and people vote once. /r/TheDonald can skew any online poll because they can vote 8 trillion times each.
I figured some sites you could keep voting, but are Trump flag wavers that fucking petty to skew online polls? Trump supporters THEMSELVES were calling him an embarrassment and a jackass on live TV! Right after the debate! Why would you want to skew it!? Even Fox News is giving Hillary kudos, although trying to salvage Trump at the same time. It's mind numbing to me.
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I figured some sites you could keep voting, but are Trump flag wavers that fucking petty to skew online polls? Trump supporters THEMSELVES were calling him an embarrassment and a jackass on live TV! Right after the debate! Why would you want to skew it!? Even Fox News is giving Hillary kudos, although trying to salvage Trump at the same time. It's mind numbing to me.
Wander on over to reddit.com/r/TheDonald . It will not explain this phenomenon to you -- trust me, no one can -- but it'll do as good of a job as I could in explaining the weird viral marketing nature of Trump supporters.
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I'm assuming today is a little different because it seems like a bunch of other posters shitting on him lol
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#1 trending topic on Twitter is #TrumpWon
Trump of course just tweeted about that....
;D
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No other candidate on the planet could say that it was smart to make money on the backs of 9 million people losing their homes and still be in the race. It is defying all laws of politics.
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No other candidate on the planet could say that it was smart to make money on the backs of 9 million people losing their homes and still be in the race. It is defying all laws of politics.
And common sense
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#1 trending topic on Twitter is #TrumpWon
Trump of course just tweeted about that....
;D
that's his S.O.P.: say something often enough and it will become true.
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No other candidate on the planet could say that it was smart to make money on the backs of 9 million people losing their homes and still be in the race. It is defying all laws of politics.
And common sense
Surprisingly, common sense not required to be a politician. But to so freely admit that you trounce on the down trodden was as much political suicide as insulting the parents of a soldier killed in the line of duty.
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No other candidate on the planet could say that it was smart to make money on the backs of 9 million people losing their homes and still be in the race. It is defying all laws of politics.
And common sense
Because they don't care. They think he's a great businessman because he TELLS them. And they believe it. Interesting how they will believe any Hillary scandal or slight, but just glaze over Trump stealing from millions of people, stiffing contractors, making his products overseas, etc etc etc. Like John Oliver said, I'll take that cookie with 10 raisins over an entire field of fucking raisins.
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Rush Limbaugh called Alicia Machado a "porn star" on his show ...
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so is Relaxer under some contractual obligation to not post any commentary on the political horse race?
his only post in months in this thread was just copying what stupid things trump said?
While his penthouse forum posts are always fun, I really enjoyed his skewering of the the dolts who choose to run
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No other candidate on the planet could say that it was smart to make money on the backs of 9 million people losing their homes and still be in the race. It is defying all laws of politics.
And common sense
Because they don't care. They think he's a great businessman because he TELLS them. And they believe it. Interesting how they will believe any Hillary scandal or slight, but just glaze over Trump stealing from millions of people, stiffing contractors, making his products overseas, etc etc etc. Like John Oliver said, I'll take that cookie with 10 raisins over an entire field of fucking raisins.
I've seen so many conservatives who are disappointed in him and that he's their candidate but they still can't bring themselves to not vote for him...... what the shit? lol
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This lady sums it up.
https://youtu.be/V2ojOvJD6vc?t=2m23s
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(http://babylonianbrew.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/258/2016/08/trump-simpsons-presidential-election.jpg)
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No other candidate on the planet could say that it was smart to make money on the backs of 9 million people losing their homes and still be in the race. It is defying all laws of politics.
Biden understands my shock:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGvShZbInkc
Edit: Here's the full speech. The highlight starts at 2:30ish...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPYS0GiLnDw
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(http://cdn.inkedmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/trump2.jpg)
APPARENTLY REAL.... (http://www.inkedmag.com/trump/)
Edit: Nope, not really....
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That's clearly a sharpie tattoo. No way it's a real one
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That's clearly a sharpie tattoo. No way it's a real one
I thought so, too. Then I saw the article. But just now I noticed the date :-[ ....
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New vision for the Mexican wall
https://www.facebook.com/TheOther98/videos/vb.114517875225866/1476198635724443/?type=2&theater
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god i loathe pence.. he reminds me a bit of a reagan.. such a fake actor.... he's got it down though...
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I enjoy how not once during the vice president debate was anything regarding Pence's record on gay people being discussed.
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I enjoy how not once during the vice president debate was anything regarding Pence's record on gay people being discussed.
I didn't love it. Democrat fail. No love here for Pence, but Kaine was a disappoint in the 30+ minutes I watched.
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I only actually watched it live for about 10 minutes and Kaine really came across as this creepy guy who is just a smug jerk.
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I only actually watched it live for about 10 minutes and Kaine really came across as this creepy guy who is just a smug jerk.
You mean like a stereotypical Democrat? (And I say that as someone who will be continuing his streak of never voting for a Republican in a Presidential Election)
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I like to think, we're all creepy smug jerks.
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Kaine is a very Virginian Democrat. Careerists, carpetbaggers, DINOs, etc.
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In latest poll of Arizona Clinton is up by two points. Wow.
I have to say a lot of the support for both candidates is pretty soft and a dramatic debate moment on Sunday could have a big impact.
32 days to go I want to be sedated...
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Can we pivot the conversation a bit? Let's play hypothetical Clinton victory. What happens to Kaine's senate seat? I mean, yes, I know the governor fills it and there'll be a special election in 2017 followed by a regular election in 2018, but who gets it?
It's very weird with the timing. You need someone who can fundraise well and repeatedly since they basically have to run two Senate campaigns back to back, hypothetically. Let's play out a few scenarios:
(1) McAuliffe appoints himself. If McAuliffe wants Northam to be the next governor of Virginia, he gives him the ability to run as a de facto incumbent, something very rare in VA politics. McAuliffe passes the fundraisability test. McAuliffe, though, is not supremely likable. He puts the Dems losing the seat in play and if the Senate is 50-50 with Kaine casting tiebreaking votes, we run a serious risk of Hillary having a friendly Senate for exactly one year.
(2) McAuliffe goes with Northam. This is a Machiavellian powerplay if he wants to clear the path for Herring to be the next Governor (or at least the next democratic nom). If the Senate majority is more than one vote, he can risk Northam losing in 2017 with the chance to take the seat back in 2018, either by himself or another candidate from the below options.
(3) McAuliffe goes with the seniority choice and picks Bobby Scott, making him VAs first black senator since Reconstruction. (This assumes Scott wants the post.) He's a perfect middle of the road candidate. On the three big factors (does this look like cronyism, can he fundraise, do people like him) he's a solid 7 across the board. Outstanding in none, but no gaping issues. This seems the safest pick.
(4) Connolly or Beyer, the states other two Democratic Congressmen. Connolly looks like the better fundraiser but Beyer has more experience on a big stage. These are meh picks, although both come from fairly gerrymandered Congressional seats that the Dems won't lose in 2018. I would question either of these ability to win re-election, especially if Cuccinelli decides he wants a Senate seat instead of running for Governor again.
(5) Levar Stoney. Reeks of cronyism, but he's also young and personable and if he can get in the Senate, he can lock it down for multiple terms. Gets the Clinton/McAuliffe money-cannon fired at him. Will have to overcome the perception that a guy who is about to lose a Mayoral election in Richmond gets handed a Senate seat. (DO NOT GET ME STARTED ON THE RICHMOND MAYORAL RACE. I WILL TALK YOUR EAR OFF AND 90% OF IT WILL BE ME BRAGGING ENDLESSLY THAT EVERYONE MOCKED WHO I SAID WOULD WIN A YEAR AGO AND NOW THEY'RE CRUSHING. SERIOUSLY THE DUDE WE ARE ELECTING IS GOING TO GET MOCKED ON EVERY NATIONAL TELECAST, ITS AMAZING.)
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I had been meaning to bring up Morrissey, lol.
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I had been meaning to bring up Morrissey, lol.
DON'T GET ME STARTED. HE CONFIRMED TO ME HE WAS RUNNING AT A GIN RELEASE PARTY 9 MONTHS BEFORE HE ANNOUNCED. IM NOT EVEN JOKING AROUND TO MAKE A JULIANS AMERICA STORY, IT REALLY HAPPENED AND I HAVE PHOTOS AND ONE OF THE BOARDIES ON MY SOCIAL MEDIA CAN CONFIRM.
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sorry I can't do "hypothetical Clinton victory"... it is still a ways away.... anything can happen...
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156,000
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oops
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This isn't the Walkie thread.
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OK I guess I'm ready to speculate because I have to believe its curtains for Trump...
with the very limited knowledge I have:
I cannot stand Mcaullife...hate hate hate him.. loathe him. of course not as much as I loathe Republicans but he is amongst the worst the Democratic Party has to offer..
I like Beyer a lot but he's a bit long in the tooth.....what a shame... he really should have been Governor or Senator much earlier... but he lost the Governorship I think...and then he became US Ambassador to Switzerland (nice gig if you can get it).... He is definitely a luxury as my Representative though.....
I'm just not sure Beyer has the energy, fight or toughness to run....
And I dont' think Mcaullife would pick Beyer anyways...
In my view Gillespie has the advantage.... against anyone...cause it will be a midterm election , right?
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It's so amusing that people are more offended by the use of vulgar words by the media than the fact that the Republican presidential nominee actually said those words.
(http://therightscoop.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/scottie-nell-hughes-01.jpeg)
'My daughter is watching this'
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OK I guess I'm ready to speculate because I have to believe its curtains for Trump...
with the very limited knowledge I have:
I cannot stand Mcaullife...hate hate hate him.. loathe him. of course not as much as I loathe Republicans but he is amongst the worst the Democratic Party has to offer..
I like Beyer a lot but he's a bit long in the tooth.....what a shame... he really should have been Governor or Senator much earlier... but he lost the Governorship I think...and then he became US Ambassador to Switzerland (nice gig if you can get it).... He is definitely a luxury as my Representative though.....
I'm just not sure Beyer has the energy, fight or toughness to run....
And I dont' think Mcaullife would pick Beyer anyways...
In my view Gillespie has the advantage.... against anyone...cause it will be a midterm election , right?
I just read that Mcauliffe pledged to visit all 160 (and growing) craft breweries in VA during his four years in office. While this doesn't necessarily make me admire him, it does make me want his job.
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Well that was ugly. I felt like I was watching 9:30 Forum Raw.
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I found that debate very disturbing.. I watched about 45-50 minutes and then I couldn't take any more..
I wish Hillary has just attacked back from the get go.. instead she tried the same approach as the first debate.. but since Trump's approach was different and the context within which the debate took place was different I think that was ill advised...
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To see him brush off his sexual assault language as locker room talk was just infuriating.
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Well that was ugly. I felt like I was watching 9:30 Forum Raw.
+1
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To see him brush off his sexual assault language as locker room talk was just infuriating.
I have been going to a gym 3-5 times a week for the last 22 years, and I've never heard anyone talk like that in the locker room.
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My reading of Missed Connections every week has me convinced that the only thing that takes place in a locker room is a gay dude creepily misconstruing any eye contact as mutual sexual interest.
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the whole debate was so disturbing.. a real low point in American politics.. Cspan was airing other debates and I watched the 88 dukakis-bush #3 (well about half of it until the end)...in THAT debate andrea mitchell asked a question decrying the tone/negative campaigning and asking what could be done.. but compared to the debate last night it was like watching the House of Lords.....and both Dukakis and Bush did talk about policy .. not just bullshit talking points either...Dukakis was actually pretty masterful
what the fuck is wrong with us? that debate does represent our culture right now. is it our educational system went completely down the drain? i guess its many things..but it was shocking
I understand hillary will have to do the 3rd debate but she really should not have to... that was disgusting...
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(https://media.giphy.com/media/VjbRxE6OVG3io/giphy.gif)
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she knows how gross her dad is.. tic tacs or not
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pBpXaffKAI
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https://www.facebook.com/ChrisChristieCameltoe/photos/a.406459566215305.1073741828.406453356215926/536225983238662/?type=3&theater
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by no means should people lay down their guard and we need to make sure to get the vote out if you don't want trump to win (big push right now for registrations...deadline in VA 10/17)
but I have to say....this graphic (http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/)is making me sleep easier
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The election has started.. people are voting today in many states....
Prediction: Hillary is going to win the 10-11 vote....stay tuned for more predictions
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Prediction: Hillary is going to win the 10-11 vote....
what is the "10-11 vote"? people who hit the polling station between 10 and 11 AM, AKA retirees and stay-at-homes?
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but I have to say....this graphic (http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/)is making me sleep easier
MD and DC:
Chance of Winning
>99.9% Clinton
<0.1% Trump
even the reddest of states aren't that hard for Trump.
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but I have to say....this graphic (http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/)is making me sleep easier
MD and DC:
Chance of Winning
>99.9% Clinton
<0.1% Trump
even the reddest of states aren't that hard for Trump.
I mean, there's a handful of states where Trump is still 99+% to win (Bama, Oklahoma, WV, Idaho). Arguing the difference between 99.9% and 99.6% isn't really productive.
We are getting back to the point where Georgia, Alaska, (and possibly even Texas if this continues to crater) are back in play, however.
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Trump's best chance at winning:
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/08/2016-elections-russia-hack-how-to-hack-an-election-in-seven-minutes-214144
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I'm watching Utah with interest.. it seems Mormons have some moral backbone... latest poll
H 26
T 26
M 22
I would not be surprised if Trump loses Utah.. and Trump losing Utah I think would be independent of anything going on elsewhere.... pretty much every politician in that state has come out against him...
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I'm watching Utah with interest.. it seems Mormons have some moral backbone... latest poll
H 26
T 26
M 22
I would not be surprised if Trump loses Utah.. and Trump losing Utah I think would be independent of anything going on elsewhere.... pretty much every politician in that state has come out against him...
Kind of ironic that the followers of a religion invented by an illiterate polygamous huckster would have moral backbone....
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I'm watching Utah with interest.. it seems Mormons have some moral backbone... latest poll
H 26
T 26
M 22
I would not be surprised if Trump loses Utah.. and Trump losing Utah I think would be independent of anything going on elsewhere.... pretty much every politician in that state has come out against him...
Where are you finding this poll?
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I'm watching Utah with interest.. it seems Mormons have some moral backbone... latest poll
H 26
T 26
M 22
I would not be surprised if Trump loses Utah.. and Trump losing Utah I think would be independent of anything going on elsewhere.... pretty much every politician in that state has come out against him...
Kind of ironic that the followers of a religion invented by an illiterate polygamous huckster would have moral backbone....
And its exactly those type of critiques of their religion that make giant alarm bells go off for LDS members when a politician suggests religious credulity tests to allow people in/throw people out of the country.
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I'm watching Utah with interest.. it seems Mormons have some moral backbone... latest poll
H 26
T 26
M 22
I would not be surprised if Trump loses Utah.. and Trump losing Utah I think would be independent of anything going on elsewhere.... pretty much every politician in that state has come out against him...
Kind of ironic that the followers of a religion invented by an illiterate polygamous huckster would have moral backbone....
And its exactly those type of critiques of their religion that make giant alarm bells go off for LDS members when a politician suggests religious credulity tests to allow people in/throw people out of the country.
In their ability to avoid the truth, it seems like both candidates would have an appeal to Mormons. ;)
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well I'm sure you found it by now but here is a link
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865664606/Poll-Trump-falls-into-tie-with-Clinton-among-Utah-voters.html
personally I think Utah and Mormons are showing some real backbone unlike the religious right/evangelicals...
I'm not going to get into a back and forth on the Mormon religion.. to me its just like any other religion: a cult..
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Anybody who trusts one poll and not poll averages....
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true. not saying one poll means Trump will lose Utah... but Trump himself has admitted to having trouble there.. and with so much of the Republican Party in Utah against Trump (Romney, Lee, etc.) and two different third party candidates doing well the situation is fluid...
http://kutv.com/news/local/trump-admits-trouble-in-utah
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but I have to say....this graphic (http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/)is making me sleep easier
the number has gone up to 86.8%
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Putin Ally Tells Americans: Vote Trump or Face Nuclear War (http://"http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/putin-ally-tells-americans-vote-trump-or-face-nuclear-war-n665376")
Trump supporters tweet #repealthe19th after poll shows he would win if only men vote (http://"http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-supporters-tweet-repeal-the19th-amendment-after-poll-shows-he-would-win-if-only-men-vote/")
and check out the last line of this puppy: http://www.nytco.com/the-new-york-timess-response-to-donald-trumps-retraction-letter
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I much prefer this graph (look at the red line!) to Silver's % change of winning game..this really tells the tale of what has been going on the past few weeks..
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html
But lets face it. people have serious reservations about HRC.. so all bets are off until the counting is done
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When Trump brought Michelle into the mix at the second debate, I told the Mrs. "That's a mistake. You do not want Michelle Obama on the campaign trail with her approval rating, let alone her speaking ability."
http://www.npr.org/2016/10/13/497846667/transcript-michelle-obamas-speech-on-donald-trumps-alleged-treatment-of-women
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When Trump brought Michelle into the mix at the second debate, I told the Mrs. "That's a mistake. You do not want Michelle Obama on the campaign trail with her approval rating, let alone her speaking ability."
http://www.npr.org/2016/10/13/497846667/transcript-michelle-obamas-speech-on-donald-trumps-alleged-treatment-of-women
Huh, she would have been on the trail anyways.. Trump bringing her in had nothing to do with her giving a speech. The Obama's are going all out as everyone knew they would do...
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women coming out of the woodwork....
#TrumpIsCosby
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women coming out of the woodwork....
#TrumpIsCosby
@barbisuperstar ?
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women coming out of the woodwork....
#TrumpIsCosby
@barbisuperstar ?
that's my twitter handle... i follow azaghal and kosmo and sidehatch
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women coming out of the woodwork....
#TrumpIsCosby
@barbisuperstar ?
that's my twitter handle... i follow azaghal and kosmo and sidehatch
That hashtag was too good and I went straight to twitter to read more and saw the local post. I feel like Nev & Max on Catfish making connections.
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its over.....
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women coming out of the woodwork....
#TrumpIsCosby
@barbisuperstar ?
that's my twitter handle... i follow azaghal and kosmo and sidehatch
That hashtag was too good and I went straight to twitter to read more and saw the local post. I feel like Nev & Max on Catfish making connections.
yes.. very good work.. I'm impressed!
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can't believe people are still talking to Ben Carson
but this vine made me laugh
https://vine.co/v/5XLJM9LtDB3
What I did find funny is when I looked up #trumpiscosby on google
#OrgasmQuest: 3 Week Update Featuring The Original Magic Wand ..
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Part of the 30 songs in 30 days Franz Ferdinand weigh in with their anti-trump song
Listen to Demagogue by Franz Ferdinand #np on #SoundCloud
https://soundcloud.com/franzferdinand/demagogue
So far this one has the most bite, the DCFC track was a bit of a snooze fest..
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So far this one has the most bite, the DCFC track was a bit of a snooze fest..
Wow, who could've predicted DCFC wouldn't be great at protest rock?
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3 men charged in Garden City bomb plot (http://www.kwch.com/content/news/Federal-officials-to-announce-arrests-in-major-investigation-397095961.html)
Warning: contains auto-play video
WICHITA, Kan. (KWCH) UPDATE (10/14/16): Three men were arrested on Friday for threatening to attack an apartment complex and mosque in Garden City.
Acting U.S. Attorney Tom Beall says Curtis Allen, Gavin Wright and Patrick Stein were all charged with domestic terrorism.
Authorities say the three were planning to bomb an apartment complex and mosque in Garden City occupied by Somali refugees.
The FBI says the men planned to carry out the attack on Nov. 9, the day after Election Day.
We first learned about the investigation when Liberal police and the FBI shutdown multiple streets in town on Tuesday.
If convicted, all three men could face life in prison.
"Liberal police" :D
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"Liberal police" :D
Liberal (https://www.google.com/maps/place/Liberal,+KS+67901/@37.04731,-101.00145,12z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x87081381164a1e0d:0x9844fb3167a41e88!8m2!3d37.0430812!4d-100.920999) police
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SNL Debate skit is a hoot...
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The few trump voters that I know...voted absentee this week in VA
hmm wonder if the mail system will be blamed for the rigged election
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"In 15 years I'll be dating you." Fucking creep.
https://twitter.com/GoAngelo/status/788182679220912129?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
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"In 15 years I'll be dating you."
incorrect. she's black. trump is on record as not liking african american women.
Fucking creep.
correct.
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so now that the presidency is pretty much decided, let's talk about the senate:
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/senate/
wow... sure has changed since the last time i checked in.
why should we care?
John McCain backs off promise Republicans would block Clinton Supreme Court nominees
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-john-mccain-hillary-clinton-supreme-court-20161017-story.html
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I'll put the senate at 52-48 Democrats (plus the VP)
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so now that the presidency is pretty much decided, let's talk about the senate:
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/senate/
wow... sure has changed since the last time i checked in.
holy shitballs
went from almost 50/50 on oct 9th to 77/23 (favoring dems taking control of the senate) in less than 10 days
this election cycle is all trumped up
I do think Trump going in as a media mogul is an excellent play on Nov 10th
I don't think he ever thought he could win and this was all to do a massive increase in brand awareness
this may go down as one of the most successful marketing campaigns in history
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this may go down as one of the most successful marketing campaigns in history
I think the exact opposite. Most ofTrump's supporters sure as hell can't afford to buy a $1,000,000 condo in one of his fancy buildings. And a good chunk of the people left, ie the people who find him horrible and disgusting, will not spend $$ on his brands out of principle.
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this may go down as one of the most successful marketing campaigns in history
I think the exact opposite. Most ofTrump's supporters sure as hell can't afford to buy a $1,000,000 condo in one of his fancy buildings. And a good chunk of the people left, ie the people who find him horrible and disgusting, will not spend $$ on his brands out of principle.
not if he creates the next Faux news...then we'll all be crying
also...Chaz!...another blast from the past :)
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stolen from ms hutch
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^I didn't bother to tell her that its debunked...sorry
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wow Nate Silver's 538 now has Arizona shaded very slightly blue.. hard to believe...
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wow Nate Silver's 538 now has Arizona shaded very slightly blue.. hard to believe...
Been that way for a few weeks.
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wow Nate Silver's 538 now has Arizona shaded very slightly blue.. hard to believe...
Been that way for a few weeks.
really? wow.. I guess I never paid it any mind.. I'm more of a Real Clear Politics stalker..
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Obama?s half-brother will be at Vegas debate cheering for Trump
President Obama?s Kenyan-born, half-brother Malik will be in the audience in Las Vegas Wednesday night when Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton square off in their third and final debate.
Malik ? an American citizen who lives in Washington, DC, when he?s not in Kenya ? says he will be a guest of Trump, the Republican nominee he supports for president.
?I?m excited to be at the debate. Trump can make America great again,? Malik told The Post.
?? ADVERTISEMENT ??
?I look very much forward to meeting and being with Malik,? Trump said. ?He gets it far better than his brother.?
http://pagesix.com/2016/10/18/obamas-half-brother-to-support-trump-at-vegas-debate/
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^I didn't bother to tell her that its debunked...sorry
dang...should have snopes that
http://www.snopes.com/1998-trump-people-quote/
just sounded so much like something he would say
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I'm fascinated by this whole thing of Trump bringing "surprise" guests to the debates. First of all, if Hillary didn't get rattled by the women who accuse her husband of sexual assault, then how is the half-brother of Obama gonna do it?
But I love how it shows his television mentality. When a show isn't doing well, goose it up with a dazzling guest star!
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First of all, if Hillary didn't get rattled by the women who accuse her husband of sexual assault, then how is the half-brother of Obama gonna do it?
When he shows up in Kenyan garb and says Hillary is his mother, this whole thing is going to be blown wide-open.
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Brother and mom of guy who died in Benghazi cause Hillary killed him with her bare hands are "just an appetizer" according to Trump campaign....
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But I love how it shows his television mentality. When a show isn't doing well, goose it up with a dazzling guest star!
That's actually a great way to put it.
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http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/eminem-blasts-trump-supporters-on-new-song-campaign-speech-w445632
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Any distraction that the media eats up to excuse Trump from actually talking about the issues is good for his campaign.
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Today I started loving again.
no. but today I began to seriously think -to know- that for sure Hillary is going to win....the funny thing is I listened to Rush Limbaugh as I usually do during presidential election years, and you could tell he was totally resigned and defeated.... same with Hannity.. Rush actually told his listeners to "get a grip" and Hannity spent a good amount of time berating Republicans and telling people that if Hillary is elected all these horrible things will happen and "you will own this.."...
I think whatever crazy shit comes out about Hillary- and some of the stuff would ordinarily be pretty damaging and I would not be surprised if Wikileaks is holding on to the real damaging stuff for the end- won't matter because voters have decided Trump is unstable and crazy... and people can't have that in their President whereas "corrupt" or "lying" they can handle... even a real bad October surprise from abroad won't change the fact Americans have determined Trump is too loco for the Casa Blanca..
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but today I began to seriously think -to know- that for sure Hillary is going to win....
Betting website pays out $1 million because it's certain Clinton beats Trump
http://money.cnn.com/2016/10/18/news/paddypower-pays-hillary-clinton-bettors/index.html (http://money.cnn.com/2016/10/18/news/paddypower-pays-hillary-clinton-bettors/index.html)
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Was that Vince Neil that Trump was talking with post-debate?
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I did not watch, but everybody I know is saying that the moderator is the one that won.
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Was that Vince Neil that Trump was talking with post-debate?
Yes Space and Carl Newman
@ACNewman · 9h9 hours ago
Wait, was Trump just talking to Vince Neil of Motley Crue?
people want to know...
http://mashable.com/2016/10/20/was-vince-neil-at-the-presidential-debate/#CMSDkurmeSqn
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?We never imagined that if we had simply given you an Emmy back in the day our current national nightmare might have been avoided,? a TV Academy spokesman said.
-andy borowitz
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Hillary completed the clean sweep last night. It was amazing that you could see the moment where she tweaked Donald and he gritted his teeth and basically flew off the rails for the last 65 minutes. It'll get lost behind his "I'll keep everyone in suspense" and "such a nasty woman" comments, but when she said he spoke to the President of Mexico and "choked" and "didn't even bring up the wall," you could see on his face she had dinged him. And then he proceeded to stop talking issues and started being his usual, interjecting lunatic self.
I have a feeling Alaska, Utah, Texas, and Georgia are all of a sudden in play.
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she said he spoke to the President of Mexico and "choked" and "didn't even bring up the wall," you could see on his face she had dinged him. And then he proceeded to stop talking issues and started being his usual, interjecting lunatic self.
I felt the same way, I could tell that one hurt and he was really impacted by it
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I know walkie will like this
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I didn't watch the debate . . . so it took me forever to figure out why this was trending so heavy, today.
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http://votefortrumppence.com/
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she said he spoke to the President of Mexico and "choked" and "didn't even bring up the wall," you could see on his face she had dinged him. And then he proceeded to stop talking issues and started being his usual, interjecting lunatic self.
I felt the same way, I could tell that one hurt and he was really impacted by it
https://twitter.com/TheFix/status/789090575249125376/photo/1
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she said he spoke to the President of Mexico and "choked" and "didn't even bring up the wall," you could see on his face she had dinged him. And then he proceeded to stop talking issues and started being his usual, interjecting lunatic self.
I felt the same way, I could tell that one hurt and he was really impacted by it
https://twitter.com/TheFix/status/789090575249125376/photo/1
although i didn't notice the faces he made, i did take note of how intent trump was on taking his notes with him. he folded them up and put them in the inner breast pocket of his jacket. WHAT WAS HE HIDING?!?
(likely just some doodles of penises, boobs and "hiiLIARy = nasty" type scribblings...)
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interesting reading the notes...
so this was at the end of the debate?
he looked angry..
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so this was at the end of the debate?
yes, very end of the debate. you can see hillary walking out to shake hands with the moderator, chat with the crowd, etc.
it was notable how clearly the two candidates kept their physical distance from each other. it's as if when trump saw hillary surge forth to shake hands, trump decided to hold back and wait his turn... don't want to be within hand-shaking distance of each other. even later, once hillary was down in the crowd, trump remained on stage with his family.
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I also saw an aide come out right after Trump walked away from the podium and grabbed his pad of paper, folded it in half, and put it under his arm. He didn't look very happy either.
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Hillary would have shaken his hand but he stayed behind his podium and she had to make a move..
He's a real piece of work... the funny thing is I think he really does hate Hillary now but just in 2008 he was talking positively about Hillary and Bill... and we know Ivanka and Chelsea were friends....
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(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/10/20/05/3989D2FA00000578-0-image-a-61_1476937766659.jpg)
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Trump is gonna love this one, the best of the 30 songs and 30 days project so fat.. True protest song material here
Lila Downs - The Demagogue
http://www.30days30songs.com/14
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BAD HOMBRES, NASTY WOMEN (ft. "Weird Al" Yankovic)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdBF6h7oH5I
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BAD HOMBRES, NASTY WOMEN (ft. "Weird Al" Yankovic)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdBF6h7oH5I
BAD HOMBRES + NASTY WOMEN = WELFARE ANCHOR BABIES?
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oh this was fun!
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/newt-gingrich-lost-it-and-blew-up-at-megyn-kelly-you-are-fascinated-with-sex/
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My voting story
man this is like the never ending root canal election...can we shorten the process a bit? All this process does is benefit consultants, pollsters, media, hookers, strippers, etc..
I knew I'd vote for Hillary since she conceded and threw her support behind President Obama in mid 2008 so not much suspense but I still very much enjoyed voting for her.. voting early rocks. there was no line at all...In Virginia you can vote absentee every day but Sundays...I did not observe any voter fraud or "rigging" going on...not sure how it would happen.. the electoral officials had a high degree of paranoia.. there was a "spoiled Ballot" situation and a lot of tension (exciting!) ensued regarding how to dispose of it..they folded it just so 8 times, stapled it together and wrote VOID on it and stuck it in the spoiled ballot envelope and said they would go over it again at the end of the day...the woman who made a mistake apologized profusely for holding up the line. .I said it was not a big problem (although deep down my less charitable side thought "Who makes a mistake?")....
I voted yes on funding parks, transportation and schools (including internet!)...The only controversial vote was on unions.. ... I did not vote for Libby Garvey for Arlington Council.....instead I voted for that woman who has been running since 1784 as a "Green" candidate but never wins but her signs are all over Arlington all the time (Clement)... maybe she doesn't want to throw away her signs?.. ..I have to say I have grown to absolutely loathe Republicans to record levels and if there was an election between pond scum and a Republican I would go for pond scum or write in Vermin Supreme.
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this will be, the first time . . . I have ever voted in an election.
I never cared, before. I never, cared. I care now. I, care.
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My voting story
man this is like the never ending root canal election...can we shorten the process a bit? All this process does is benefit consultants, pollsters, media, hookers, strippers, etc..
I knew I'd vote for Hillary since she conceded and threw her support behind President Obama in mid 2008 so not much suspense but I still very much enjoyed voting for her.. voting early rocks. there was no line at all...In Virginia you can vote absentee every day but Sundays...I did not observe any voter fraud or "rigging" going on...not sure how it would happen.. the electoral officials had a high degree of paranoia.. there was a "spoiled Ballot" situation and a lot of tension (exciting!) ensued regarding how to dispose of it..they folded it just so 8 times, stapled it together and wrote VOID on it and stuck it in the spoiled ballot envelope and said they would go over it again at the end of the day...the woman who made a mistake apologized profusely for holding up the line. .I said it was not a big problem (although deep down my less charitable side thought "Who makes a mistake?")....
I voted yes on funding parks, transportation and schools (including internet!)...The only controversial vote was on unions.. ... I did not vote for Libby Garvey for Arlington Council.....instead I voted for that woman who has been running since 1784 as a "Green" candidate but never wins but her signs are all over Arlington all the time (Clement)... maybe she doesn't want to throw away her signs?.. ..I have to say I have grown to absolutely loathe Republicans to record levels and if there was an election between pond scum and a Republican I would go for pond scum or write in Vermin Supreme.
The thrills of voting in somewhere where you actually have representation. Gives the whole experience a different feel. Not bitter at all here!
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Apparently this is a genuine ad. You must watch it. It's the greatest thing I've ever seen today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVBKwzz712k (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVBKwzz712k)
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really good
http://www.ew.com/article/2016/10/26/stephen-colbert-newt-gingrich-the-talk-megyn-kelly-interview
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Pence's plane goes off runway at airport. Holy s***, glad he's OK! Patiently waiting, for the die-hard Trump supporters and Drudge Report and Breitbart to say Hillary tried to kill him.
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Pence's plane goes off runway at airport. Holy s***, glad he's OK! Patiently waiting, for the die-hard Trump supporters and Drudge Report and Breitbart to say Hillary tried to kill him.
I'm really upset I can't find a SINGLE conspiracy theory about this yet. Come on, internet!
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Pence's plane goes off runway at airport. Holy s***, glad he's OK! Patiently waiting, for the die-hard Trump supporters and Drudge Report and Breitbart to say Hillary tried to kill him.
airports have a well-known liberal bias.
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Pence's plane goes off runway at airport. Holy s***, glad he's OK! Patiently waiting, for the die-hard Trump supporters and Drudge Report and Breitbart to say Hillary tried to kill him.
airports have a well-known liberal bias.
Maybe your pretty boy, fly-by-nights airports like JFK but not your good, old fashioned, family-values airports like Reagan National.
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Pence's plane goes off runway at airport. Holy s***, glad he's OK! Patiently waiting, for the die-hard Trump supporters and Drudge Report and Breitbart to say Hillary tried to kill him.
airports have a well-known liberal bias.
Maybe your pretty boy, fly-by-nights airports like JFK but not your good, old fashioned, family-values airports like Reagan National.
It happened at LaGuardia.
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Pence's plane goes off runway at airport. Holy s***, glad he's OK! Patiently waiting, for the die-hard Trump supporters and Drudge Report and Breitbart to say Hillary tried to kill him.
airports have a well-known liberal bias.
Maybe your pretty boy, fly-by-nights airports like JFK but not your good, old fashioned, family-values airports like Reagan National.
It happened at LaGuardia.
He was a fake republican like Bloomberg.
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Pence's plane goes off runway at airport. Holy s***, glad he's OK! Patiently waiting, for the die-hard Trump supporters and Drudge Report and Breitbart to say Hillary tried to kill him.
airports have a well-known liberal bias.
Maybe your pretty boy, fly-by-nights airports like JFK but not your good, old fashioned, family-values airports like Reagan National.
It happened at LaGuardia.
He was a fake republican like Bloomberg.
i got a decent politico-historical chuckle outta that one.
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James Comey is evidently the new J Edgar Hoover..
this is pretty unprecedented stuff.. 11 days before a presidential election..
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cnn, is calling it a
bomb,shell
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Damn Anthony Wiener fucking things up again
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it is a bombshell cause all weekend the media will be trying to look "even handed" by talking about Hillary's emails..
I hope Trump says something really stupid or we see a video of Trump humpin' a camel
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Damn Anthony Wiener fucking things up again
what, a dick
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Do you know what is the best thing about this election cycle? It has brought out people's true colors and shows just how miserable some people are, and how angry they have been in their life. I love it. There is nothing greater, than seeing that face you hide behind that mask.
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Some people in my neighborhood have Clinton signs. Some people have Trump signs.
I decided my statement for this election was to put out my Obama/Biden sign from 2008. Unfortunately I wasn't able to find it. Probably some symbolism there.
I did manage to clean up the garage a bit in the process, so there's that.
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I just dont' see the point of putting a sign out here in Arlington.. i mean its like 80% democrat around here....I don't think we have one single Republican elected official national , state or county at this point....
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LoL @ anyone putting political signs in their yard, D or R.
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I'm predicting that the final count will be around 300-320 for Hillary and around 210-230 for Trump.
My absolute nightmare scenario is Dump wins Florida, the election ends tentatively at 269-269, Florida goes to recount, recount goes to Supreme Court, which deadlocks 4-4, GOP house elects trump.
This is the new iteration of "Oh come on, no way that could happen"
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I had a nightmare last night that he won. But I think it's just post-traumatic stress from having been in an earthquake in Italy last week. At least that's what I'm telling myself.
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I'm predicting that the final count will be around 300-320 for Hillary and around 210-230 for Trump.
My absolute nightmare scenario is Dump wins Florida, the election ends tentatively at 269-269, Florida goes to recount, recount goes to Supreme Court, which deadlocks 4-4, GOP house elects trump.
This is the new iteration of "Oh come on, no way that could happen"
Is there no way they could make the numbers be such that there is an odd number of electoral votes instead of an even number?
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I had a nightmare last night that he won. But I think it's just post-traumatic stress from having been in an earthquake in Italy last week. At least that's what I'm telling myself.
Woah, tell more firsthand accounts about Italy and the earthquake. We're headed to Northern Italy in June/July.
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My absolute nightmare scenario is Dump wins Florida, the election ends tentatively at 269-269, Florida goes to recount, recount goes to Supreme Court, which deadlocks 4-4, GOP house elects trump.
This is the new iteration of "Oh come on, no way that could happen"
The Bizarro situation that tickles my fancy the most is Hillary 268, Trump 264, McMullin 6 (Utah). Senate elects Kaine, House rallies around McMullin to form some sort of bizarro-hybrid executive branch.
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The final tally could be odd or even. They didn't take that into account when they invented the electoral system.
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I just want to see trump become president . . . then 6 months go by, and all the people who think he is going to change the country for the better; for the better for them; for the little guy who can't get ahead; who feels oppressed by the system; who can't make it; and then they realize that trump is just another rich person who doesn't give ten shits about the little guy.
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I just want to see trump become president . . . then 6 months go by, and all the people who think he is going to change the country for the better; for the better for them; for the little guy who can't get ahead; who feels oppressed by the system; who can't make it; and then they realize that trump is just another rich person who doesn't give ten shits about the little guy.
This isn't remotely going to happen though. You really think those Trump idiots are self-aware enough to say "Oh wow, this candidate for whom I dedicated all my brainless hopes and dreams has not delivered on the very vague and contradictory promises he made!" They'll just blame Obama and Hillary more. That's what they do. That's ALL they do. Blame, mislead, and complain.
A Trump presidency will be four years of utter disaster, and the GOP will take accountability for none of it.
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(http://i.imgur.com/Fhk074U.png)
FEAR
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I just want to see trump become president . . . then 6 months go by, and all the people who think he is going to change the country for the better; for the better for them; for the little guy who can't get ahead; who feels oppressed by the system; who can't make it; and then they realize that trump is just another rich person who doesn't give ten shits about the little guy.
Trevor Noah took on this question last night, starting at about 7:59 in this clip:
http://www.cc.com/video-clips/zqbtxj/the-daily-show-with-trevor-noah-envisioning-president-trump-s-first-term
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well that is the nightmare scenario I identified months ago....a tie which goes to the House and hence Trump wins....I think the House votes by state (each delegation).... is someone predicting the map you posted? I see that as a worst case scenario..
I still think NH is part of Hillary's firewall...but of course if there is big shift happening it would take NH with it....
All the states in blue are comfortable Hillary states I have to think...but as I identified a few months ago it only gets her to 269....
The more I read about Comey and what he did the angrier I get
its funny.. Republicans are always super confident no matter what the polls say... democrats are always shitting themselves at the first sign of potential trouble...
Is there one last suprise left? Could the Justice department reach some sort of conclusion on the emails in question before the election?
I still think everything should point to a conclusive Hillary victory but I worry because nobody ever got poor underestimating the intelligence of the American people...
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Didn't I just hear yesterday that the Trump campaign has all but conceded NC and is moving resources to other states?
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One possible outcome being discussed is that Comey's unprecedented interference makes it unlikely democrats take back the senate and forget about the house with Hillary getting into power in a fairly weak state... Republicans would immediately ramp up all investigations of her... not to mention a possible confrontation between the FBI and the executive which could go on for years.. Comey apparently can't be removed by the president....
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Didn't I just hear yesterday that the Trump campaign has all but conceded NC and is moving resources to other states?
all that is not going to matter if there is an anti-Hillary wave.. organization/advertising/ground game can help you a few points here or there but that is about it...
I mean if organization and spending is what determines an election its of course long over... Hillary has raised and spent like 4 times more than Trump.. she has built an organization full of experienced people over the past 10 years! Meanwhile Trump's organization is Donald Trump and a few people that go on TV...
We'll know on election day what happened....at this point we don't know..we think Hillary will win.. we know she should but that's about it
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FEAR
that isn't quite the nightmare scenario that it might appear to be at first glance. a tie would mean that trump would not become president (senate would never choose him)... a trump presidency is the REAL nightmare.
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I had a nightmare last night that he won. But I think it's just post-traumatic stress from having been in an earthquake in Italy last week. At least that's what I'm telling myself.
Woah, tell more firsthand accounts about Italy and the earthquake. We're headed to Northern Italy in June/July.
Italy was stunning. Just incredible. If you're in the north and have access to a car, go to this place: http://ristoranteborsa.it/eng/index.html It's probably the one meal that I'd request before I leave the planet. It's near Verona.
As for the earthquake, I was in my hotel elevator and it was a 5.9. Felt like being in a cocktail shaker without the booze. Not pleasant. Lots of aftershocks too during the night. But it was interesting to say that I've been in a fairly significant quake.
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FEAR
that isn't quite the nightmare scenario that it might appear to be at first glance. a tie would mean that trump would not become president (senate would never choose him)... a trump presidency is the REAL nightmare.
huh? do you not read what i write? (don't answer)
its the HOUSE that breaks the tie.. by State Delegation.... Trump would obviously win..even if the Senate had to choose he would win..but they don't...
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I had a nightmare last night that he won. But I think it's just post-traumatic stress from having been in an earthquake in Italy last week. At least that's what I'm telling myself.
Woah, tell more firsthand accounts about Italy and the earthquake. We're headed to Northern Italy in June/July.
Italy was stunning. Just incredible. If you're in the north and have access to a car, go to this place: http://ristoranteborsa.it/eng/index.html It's probably the one meal that I'd request before I leave the planet. It's near Verona.
As for the earthquake, I was in my hotel elevator and it was a 5.9. Felt like being in a cocktail shaker without the booze. Not pleasant. Lots of aftershocks too during the night. But it was interesting to say that I've been in a fairly significant quake.
THanks! The closest we are staying to there is Malcesine on Lake Garda. But a daytrip by car to Verona and surrounding area is on the list of maybes.
The DC earthquake was 5.8, by comparison.
Now, how do I pivot this back to Trump?
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yea i read and sorry, typo, meant house... but they wouldn't choose trump. they'd likely go with McMullin.
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yea i read and sorry, typo, meant house... but they wouldn't choose trump. they'd likely go with McMullin.
The important thing is for McMullin to be on the ballot for the House, he has to get at least one electoral vote.
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you guys are crazy.. they will totally go for Trump if that happens... if Trump manages to tie there is no way they will overturn the voters "will".. everyone will see that as a huge Trump win as he was behind for months/underdog..
and even more so if he pulls of the popular vote...
I don't think he will mind you..
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lol the house is not going to elect Noted Gay Mormon Evan McMullin. I am not saying this to disparage McMullin or his orientation at all, because I don't know who he is. Except that he considers himself a conservative so I probably think he's a douchebag.
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All Hail Nate Silver!
Crazy and not-so-crazy scenarios
Here are the chances we?ll see these election outcomes.
Electoral College deadlock no candidate gets 270 electoral votes 1.0%
Electoral College 269-269 tie 0.4%
Recount at least one decisive state within 0.5 ppt 6.9%
Clinton wins popular vote 82.4%
Trump wins popular vote 17.6%
Clinton wins popular vote but loses Electoral College 10.9%
Trump wins popular vote but loses Electoral College 0.4%
Johnson wins at least one electoral vote 0.3%
McMullin wins at least one electoral vote 19.2%
Clinton majority wins at least 50 percent of the vote 34.5%
Trump majority wins at least 50 percent of the vote 2.8%
Clinton landslide double-digit popular vote margin 9.0%
Trump landslide double-digit popular vote margin 0.4%
Map exactly the same as in 2012 0.2%
Clinton wins at least one state Mitt Romney won in 2012 73.7%
Trump wins at least one state President Obama won in 2012 81.2%
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who cares? its just based on the polls 8-10 days out.... at least if it was the final polls i might give it some credence...
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I'd be scared to see what Pence's playlist is like
but cool to see Lucy Dacus made it to Tim's playlist (http://consequenceofsound.net/2016/11/tim-kaine-shares-playlist-with-deep-cuts-from-bowie-springsteen-and-the-who/)
Now, we?re not saying you should vote based on music taste, but there?s something distinctly alluring about having an avowed Replacements fan be one heartbeat away from the presidency
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there was a rolling stone piece on tim kaine's musical taste.. he went into replacements at length
he went on and on about cornershop and you could tell he really knew what he was talking about! he even talked about how they never play out here (remember the last cornershop show at the 930? me neither. it was cancelled... the posters had all been printed out)
Kaine is a very thoughtful guy for sure... I liked the pick because it created no waves and I think it guarantees Virginia.. but she could have gone a bit more inspirational/outside the box...
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there was a rolling stone piece on tim kaine's musical taste.. he went into replacements at length
he went on and on about cornershop and you could tell he really knew what he was talking about! he even talked about how they never play out here (remember the last cornershop show at the 930? me neither. it was cancelled... the posters had all been printed out)
Kaine is a very thoughtful guy for sure... I liked the pick because it created no waves and I think it guarantees Virginia.. but she could have gone a bit more inspirational/outside the box...
My father-in-law referred to Kaine as a "fake Catholic".
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I refer to him . . . as, fake intelligence.
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I blame the cubs....but I'm really not liking the trending on this chart
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/
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^I thought we should ignore the presidential race cause its in the bag and devote our resources down ballot?
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But seriously... well if african american early voter turnout in NC and FL really is down substantially it could be trouble.....in fact in NC white turnout is up by the same percentage black turnout is down...
I kind of think if the models are predicitng the same black turnout for Hillary as OBama got in 2008 and 2012 that could be a big problem...but I don't know if that is the case in the models..
Comey really fucked Hillary hard... that is for sure... but its too late to do much other than fight until election day is over...
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Comey really fucked Hillary hard... that is for sure... but its too late to do much other than fight until election day is over...
I don't know if this really has made an impact at all
I don't think it's changed anyone's mind....even the undecided voters
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Comey really fucked Hillary hard... that is for sure... but its too late to do much other than fight until election day is over...
I don't know if this really has made an impact at all
I don't think it's changed anyone's mind....even the undecided voters
IT has absolutely had an impact but its hard to quantify it exactly... but.. lets use common sense here.. voters now fear that the Hillary email issue will continue into a Hillary presidency for years.... not an attractive proposition for anyone....before Comey's stupid letter at least the issue had been relatively put to bed...
Moreover, from the moment of Comey's letter all the news has been about Hillary's emails.... not exactly a positive the last week before the election
If it only shifted the intentions of 3 out of 100 voters it would have a big impact... and then when people start seeing Hillary's drop in the polls, Trump's rise more things happen.. a few other people - on the D side get demoralized while on the R side get energized...
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I'm with Hatch, this had minimal impact. I can't imagine there is anybody left in this country who has no opinion on the candidates, and if they have no opinion right now, then this isn't going to be what gives them an opinion. It give the pundits something to blather on about, and it gave Trump more fodder to bleat about, but no one's mind was changed by this.
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I'm with Hatch
I like the sound of that...make a good bumper sticker
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'Tis . . . quite, the problem. Gurl.
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Talk about poor judgment. Glad my kid is not in their hands?
http://wtvr.com/2016/11/02/virginia-principal-dresses-as-trump-secretary-as-clinton-in-prison-garb/
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Talk about poor judgment. Glad my kid is not in their hands?
http://wtvr.com/2016/11/02/virginia-principal-dresses-as-trump-secretary-as-clinton-in-prison-garb/
at Robert E. Lee High School.....says a lot
also i have no issue with the trump one, but the Hillary one in a jumpsuit is definitely inappropriate
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Talk about poor judgment. Glad my kid is not in their hands?
http://wtvr.com/2016/11/02/virginia-principal-dresses-as-trump-secretary-as-clinton-in-prison-garb/
at Robert E. Lee High School.....says a lot
also i have no issue with the trump one, but the Hillary one in a jumpsuit is definitely inappropriate
Robert E. Lee was a Democrat.
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Talk about poor judgment. Glad my kid is not in their hands?
http://wtvr.com/2016/11/02/virginia-principal-dresses-as-trump-secretary-as-clinton-in-prison-garb/
at Robert E. Lee High School.....says a lot
also i have no issue with the trump one, but the Hillary one in a jumpsuit is definitely inappropriate
Robert E. Lee was a Democrat.
The whole pre to Civil War era use of Dem/Republican tags in comparison to contemporary politicians is one of the biggest bs lines. There are very few common threads between the "party of Lincoln" "party of Theodore Roosevelt" and even progressively the "party of Reagan" with what's happened to the Republican party in the past tight or so years. There's much less similarities between the party of Robert E. Lee and that of Barack Obama, JFK, Bill Clinton or any Democrat of the modern age.
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Talk about poor judgment. Glad my kid is not in their hands?
http://wtvr.com/2016/11/02/virginia-principal-dresses-as-trump-secretary-as-clinton-in-prison-garb/
at Robert E. Lee High School.....says a lot
also i have no issue with the trump one, but the Hillary one in a jumpsuit is definitely inappropriate
Robert E. Lee was a Democrat.
The whole pre to Civil War era use of Dem/Republican tags in comparison to contemporary politicians is one of the biggest bs lines. There are very few common threads between the "party of Lincoln" "party of Theodore Roosevelt" and even progressively the "party of Reagan" with what's happened to the Republican party in the past tight or so years. There's much less similarities between the party of Robert E. Lee and that of Barack Obama, JFK, Bill Clinton or any Democrat of the modern age.
dude you totally fell for the trolling..
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latest VA poll has Trump winning...
its looking very bleak.. get out there and do what you can while you can... make calls, canvass.. donate $..... or you're going to spending the next 4 years sucking Trump's little dick wondering why..
BTW any Trump supporters around here?
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Talk about poor judgment. Glad my kid is not in their hands?
http://wtvr.com/2016/11/02/virginia-principal-dresses-as-trump-secretary-as-clinton-in-prison-garb/
at Robert E. Lee High School.....says a lot
also i have no issue with the trump one, but the Hillary one in a jumpsuit is definitely inappropriate
Robert E. Lee was a Democrat.
The whole pre to Civil War era use of Dem/Republican tags in comparison to contemporary politicians is one of the biggest bs lines. There are very few common threads between the "party of Lincoln" "party of Theodore Roosevelt" and even progressively the "party of Reagan" with what's happened to the Republican party in the past tight or so years. There's much less similarities between the party of Robert E. Lee and that of Barack Obama, JFK, Bill Clinton or any Democrat of the modern age.
dude you totally fell for the trolling..
Yes, but to be fair people bring up the comparison all the and whenever politically convenient. . .
It's probably the stress of the seemingly complete serious possibility of a totally ill-tempered, ill-equipped and unqualified candidate for our highest office being elected.
Consider my nerves racked.
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Talk about poor judgment. Glad my kid is not in their hands?
http://wtvr.com/2016/11/02/virginia-principal-dresses-as-trump-secretary-as-clinton-in-prison-garb/
at Robert E. Lee High School.....says a lot
also i have no issue with the trump one, but the Hillary one in a jumpsuit is definitely inappropriate
Robert E. Lee was a Democrat.
The whole pre to Civil War era use of Dem/Republican tags in comparison to contemporary politicians is one of the biggest bs lines. There are very few common threads between the "party of Lincoln" "party of Theodore Roosevelt" and even progressively the "party of Reagan" with what's happened to the Republican party in the past tight or so years. There's much less similarities between the party of Robert E. Lee and that of Barack Obama, JFK, Bill Clinton or any Democrat of the modern age.
dude you totally fell for the trolling..
Yes, but to be fair people bring up the comparison all the and whenever politically convenient. . .
It's probably the stress of the seemingly complete serious possibility of a totally ill-tempered, ill-equipped and unqualified candidate for our highest office being elected.
Consider my nerves racked.
hey I'm with you...
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First Trump, now this shit.
U.S. authorities warn of al Qaeda threat to election
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-alqaeda-idUSKBN12Z1F2
Federal officials have warned authorities in New York City, Texas and Virginia about an unspecific threat of attacks by the al Qaeda militant group around Election Day, putting local law enforcement on alert the weekend before Tuesday's vote, officials said on Friday.
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LOL
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G,url
https://www.queerty.com/gay-drag-race-judge-goes-crazed-twitter-rant-slams-clintons-obamas-20161103
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hey I'm with you...
...you should be with Hatch...and you'll sleep easy
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hey I'm with you...
...you should be with Hatch...and you'll sleep easy
that's what I said.. I'm with you! Vote for me.. or else...
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Bow down before me your next President.. but I will be different from the other presidents...
I'm doing better and better in the latest polls.. now up five in PA!
http://www.latlmes.com/nation/breaking-pa-poll-trump-47-hillary-42-1
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>:(
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>:(
Resistance is futile...come over to the dark side...
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For Trump to get to 270 he needs to win states where he has never led and the GOP has lost in at least the last 5 elections.
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For Trump to get to 270 he needs to win states where he has never led and the GOP has lost in at least the last 5 elections.
Look all I got to do is win NH, NV, FL, NC, OH, ME (CD), and IA.
if I don't win the CD in ME it will be deadlocked at 269 and believe me they'll vote for me in the House or else......
I don't even need PA or VA....or MI or WI or CO or NM
and lets face it I'm strongly favored in OH and IA... should be the favorite in NH and NC... which just leaves FL and NV up in the air.. I win those two I'm your president...
Just keep checking 538 while I do it...
I just saw someone here in Northern Virginia standing on the corner with a sign saying "Corruption is not the Virginia way" and believe me they are not talking about me folks...
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and I'm leading MI too.. or why do you think Hillary and Barack Obama are suddenly both going there tomorrow?
My friend Rudy talking to Comey did me a world of good... idiots still saying it had no impact..
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Frickin' Comey.. they got to him...I was sooooooo close...
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I say we make this election more interesting. If Trump wins, we delete the Integers thread and delete the posts therein from everyone's counts (Hutch's pet issue) and if Clinton wins, we give Hutch a ban for the duration of the Clinton Presidency (my pet issue)?
You on board, bro?
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how is it this close what is wrong with people
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how is it this close what is wrong with people
lack of punctuation, mostly.
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how is it this close what is wrong with people
lack of punctuation, mostly.
im not really sure what youre getting at
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how is it this close what is wrong with people
lack of punctuation, mostly.
im not really sure what youre getting at
Never change, DFA1979, never change.
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How is this close? What is wrong, with people?
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How is this close? What is wrong, with people?
Unless your name is Walkie, that comma is completely unnecessary.
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How is this close? What is wrong, with people?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/whats-wrong-with-538_us_581ffe18e4b0334571e09e74
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Sabado has it (http://www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/) 322-216 for Clinton and a 50-50 Senate.
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Sabado has it (http://www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/) 322-216 for Clinton and a 50-50 Senate.
yes I saw that but go to the Drudge Report and you will see what is really going on! We have a movement!
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Sabado has it (http://www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/) 322-216 for Clinton and a 50-50 Senate.
yes I saw that but go to the Drudge Report and you will see what is really going on! We have a movement!
In all seriousness, every 2 years or so when I click on Drudge Report for some reason, I am always still stunned that they still have not upgraded the website layout. Thing looks straight out of 1998.
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Sabado has it (http://www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/) 322-216 for Clinton and a 50-50 Senate.
yes I saw that but go to the Drudge Report and you will see what is really going on! We have a movement!
In all seriousness, every 2 years or so when I click on Drudge Report for some reason, I am always still stunned that they still have not upgraded the website layout. Thing looks straight out of 1998.
Their focus is just reporting the straight up news.. not fancy frilly layouts... They pride themselves on being a throwback to the days when the media wasn't a biased left wing arm of the democratic party..oldschool shoe and leather reporting..
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This made me smile. ;D
Their focus is just reporting the straight up news.. not fancy frilly layouts... They pride themselves on being a throwback to the days when the media wasn't a biased left wing arm of the democratic party..oldschool shoe and leather reporting..
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^ that pic scares me
is it true that they (the campaign) took trumps twitter account away from him this past weekend?
(Obama just said it on cspan)
She will deliver, she won't just tweet
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Both Bill Belichick and Tom Brady love me...New England is in the bag!
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In case any of you guys aren't getting enough at home...
http://www.dailydot.com/irl/porn-stars-blowjob-donald-trump/?fb=dd
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Both Bill Belichick and Tom Brady love me...New England is in the bag!
SHIT JUST GOT REAL
except that it's likely not real... just another bold-face donald lie:
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/11/did-tom-brady-and-bill-belichick-really-endorse-trump.html
http://nypost.com/2016/11/08/it-turns-out-tom-brady-and-gisele-bundchen-arent-endorsing-trump/
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/11/08/tom-bradys-wife-says-theyre-not-supporting-donald-trump/
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I bought tacos from a Halal truck today on the streets of DC. Who says America isn't great! They also serve falafel tacos..
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They also serve falafel tacos..
This intrigues me greatly.
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are we getting a taco truck on every corner!
I knew my vote for HRC wouldn't be in vain
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Much like peanut butter and jelly sandwiches, Trumps appeal seems to be limited to Americans:
(http://cdn.static-economist.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/original-size/20161112_WOC158_4.png)
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so what is the Thai gripe with HRC?
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What is everyone's plans for tonite? Part of me wants to go see one of my favorite films of the last few years play at a seminar at VCU's school of film because I never got to see it in a big screen. It starts at 7 and at 140 minutes, I could reasonably be out by 9:30 which is the earliest we're going to start getting east coast swing states called, but I don't really think I'd concentrate and would just check my phone half the night.
Two of my neighbors are running for local seats (school board, etc) and are having "Victory Parties" but they're both white and this is Richmond so they're going to get killed so I'm not sure how much fun that would be. I should probably make an appearance at both, I guess.
Anyone doing anything other than planting themselves on the couch from 8p-1a (EST) tonite?
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For those who want to follow boots on the ground reporting by exit pollsters and the like: huge turnout in traditionally Dem Florida counties like Browerd and Pinellas, both of which are notorious for being "people show up late" counties. Could be good for Dems, could be nothing.
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What is everyone's plans for tonite?
I'm on a panel covering election results from 4-10 PST. I've been told I'm limited to three devices.
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What is everyone's plans for tonite?
I'm on a panel covering election results from 4-10 PST. I've been told I'm limited to three devices.
Like a live discussion panel for your school or a "polling place monitoring" panel?
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We're getting the Sausage Party dvd through Netflix tonight. Seems like it will be more entertaining than election coverage. Now the only question is which beer to drink with it.
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We're getting the Sausage Party dvd through Netflix tonight.
Netflix still does the thing where you get DVD mails to you?!
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are we getting a taco truck on every corner!
I knew my vote for HRC wouldn't be in vain
We already have enough Middle Eastern trucks for every corner, so it could get kinda crowded out there
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We're getting the Sausage Party dvd through Netflix tonight.
Netflix still does the thing where you get DVD mails to you?!
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If you can tell me a service that has as many streaming movie options as Netflix has DVD movie options, I'll consider other options...
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We're getting the Sausage Party dvd through Netflix tonight.
Netflix still does the thing where you get DVD mails to you?!
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If you can tell me a service that has as many streaming movie options as Netflix has DVD movie options, I'll consider other options...
I was not passing judgment; I honestly did not know the service still existed.
It would irk me personally to only get it in DVD (as opposed to Blu-Ray or 4K) but if you like what you have, more power to you.
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^humbleslam
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^humbleslam
Do you have a HDTV (not even discussing 4k)? After having one for 2-3 years, I found DVDs pretty unwatchable. It's weird going back to SD after you're used to watching HD for everything else.
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I recently spent the weekend at a quaint hotel where the only TV was an old school 480i tube style set. I watched for a grand total of 4 minutes before it became unbearable. 4K seems so...civilized.
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^humbleslam
Do you have a HDTV (not even discussing 4k)? After having one for 2-3 years, I found DVDs pretty unwatchable. It's weird going back to SD after you're used to watching HD for everything else.
first of all these technical matters are not my area...
I find some bluerays are pretty poor....its not the DVD format that is the problem but the source material.. many movies I like are very old...but a well produced DVD to me looks amazing....breathtaking.... maybe I'm a bit older than you and remember how shitty things used to be....just the fact you can watch movies in letterbox is INCREDIBLE... i come from the age where they chopped off the sides..I used to record movies on videotape just to get the letterbox version (which was impossible to find for too long)
you can always do better but at some point I just don't care any more....
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We're getting the Sausage Party dvd through Netflix tonight. Seems like it will be more entertaining than election coverage. Now the only question is which beer to drink with it.
I gave this 2 out of 5 peach emojis
The novelty of a "Pixar" style movie where they cuss and do filthy filthy things wears off pretty quickly. I thought the funniest parts were the food puns. It's been tough for Rogen/Goldberg to get back to that Pineapple Express level of magic.
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I just want to say that all of you not in RVA are missing out on one of the most entertaining mayoral elections I've ever seen. The shit that is going down today is the stuff of legends.
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so we should have had a bet on what time do you think they will call it for HRC
what is the earliest they could call it?
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I just want to say that all of you not in RVA are missing out on one of the most entertaining mayoral elections I've ever seen. The shit that is going down today is the stuff of legends.
I'm all ears. Do tell.
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so we should have had a bet on what time do you think they will call it for HRC
what is the earliest they could call it?
Its going to be a long night I'm with Hutch....bigly...believe me
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Isn't the earliest 11pm? I thought they won't call before polls close on the west coast, Alaska be damned. (and Hawaii).
That's what the Brits are saying anyways.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/0/what-time-us-election-results-uk-what-is-timetable-for-the-night/
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Isn't the earliest 11pm? I thought they won't call before polls close on the west coast, Alaska be damned. (and Hawaii).
This has never been the case.
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I just want to say that all of you not in RVA are missing out on one of the most entertaining mayoral elections I've ever seen. The shit that is going down today is the stuff of legends.
I'm all ears. Do tell.
I'll type up a primer shortly. This makes the national race look like tiddlywinks.
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they've called presidential elections as early as 9ish ...recently..
but that will not happen tonight.... have you looked at the exit polls or read the turnout numbers of the blacks?
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I just want to say that all of you not in RVA are missing out on one of the most entertaining mayoral elections I've ever seen. The shit that is going down today is the stuff of legends.
I'm all ears. Do tell.
I'll type up a primer shortly. This makes the national race look like tiddlywinks.
let me save you some time.
http://wtop.com/virginia/2016/11/richmond-mayor-race-sex-scandals-comebacks-party-clashes/
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I just want to say that all of you not in RVA are missing out on one of the most entertaining mayoral elections I've ever seen. The shit that is going down today is the stuff of legends.
I'm all ears. Do tell.
I'll type up a primer shortly. This makes the national race look like tiddlywinks.
let me save you some time.
http://wtop.com/virginia/2016/11/richmond-mayor-race-sex-scandals-comebacks-party-clashes/
I found these. The first adds some new fuel to the fire. The second does not add anything new, but it's a great read.
http://www.richmond.com/news/local/city-of-richmond/article_5d8e9b64-c12e-595a-8296-92afe6971478.html
http://www.theroot.com/articles/politics/2016/11/i-dont-understand-richmond-va-mayoral-candidate-and-alleged-pervert-joe-morrissey/
But I'm happy to get Juilan's take on it as well.
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That's not totally current. Baliles pulled out and endorsed Stoney and Morrissey then went out and printed "sample ballots" listing Morrissey as the Democratic Candidate for Mayor. Stoney then sued because he's the official Dem party candidate.
Then today, more "volunteer groups" papering for Morrissey at some locations AND LISTING REPUBLICAN PARTY SAMPLE BALLOTS LISTING BERRY AS THE REPUBLICAN. (Berry is a Democrat in name -- although by far the most pro-business conservative in the race -- and this is a clear attempt to smear him with black voters.)
Also hundreds of confirmed ballots with Morrissey pre-marked. It's a shitshow.
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The other thing is the insane electoral process. RVA has 9 districts. To win today, someone must receive the majority of the vote in 5 of 9. If no one wins 5 of 9, the top two POPULAR vote getters go to a runoff in a few weeks which again is a first to 5 district race.
5 districts are hugely AA and 3 are white and one is a toss-up. Morrissey has 4 districts in the bag, and Berry probably has three. Morrissey is competing with Berry in one and Stoney for another. Realistically, only Morrissey can win tonite but you can get the bizarro scenario where he's left out of a run-off because Berry will run up huge margins in the white districts and Stoney will finish 2nd in every district.
The Stoney and Berry camps are claiming they will win any run-off against Morrissey because his (almost entirely lower-class AA voters) will not show back up for a second election.
It's absolutely wild, and Machavellian, and just filthy as hell.
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There's a lot more going on then just the saga of Joe Morrissey which is comedy gold. Stoney has run the dumbest campaign ever and basically has done NOTHING to campaign. He thought the Dem nomination would get him the job. Berry is a clown who has been part of every boondoggle (downtown baseball, Redskins training camp) but the whites have rallied around him since therir golden boy Baliles dropped out (even though he asked his supporters to vote Stoney).
It's a mayoral race with 5 major candidates playing in a bizarre district system where no one blinked (until Baliles when it was too late and his supporters had filed absentee ballots) allowing Morrissey to (likely) win. A politics class can also be taught about the pure nature of old fashioned politicking Morrissey is doing. I have never seen any candidate in person out in my neighborhood but him (and I'm not in a Morrissey area). He's went door to door for 9 months meeting people, sending hand written cards to everyone he met and Stoney has sit back on his ass thinking McAuliffe's money was going to get it done.
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I really don't care who the blacks elect in Richmond but I draw the line at dead people voting....you will see they will have votes coming out of Richmond until the wee hours....
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I really don't care who the blacks elect in Richmond but I draw the line at dead people voting....you will see they will have votes coming out of Richmond until the wee hours....
It's easier to dress up the corpses a la Weekend At Bernie's once its dark out.
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Now this really ticks me offf... those inside the beltway people in the Socialist Republic of Arlington really turning out... no matter... the rural country bumpkins will power me to victory.. thank god our vote still counts according to how much land we own...if only the 3/5ths compromise was still operational...
https://www.arlnow.com/2016/11/08/heavy-turnout-reported-in-arlington/
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Anyone doing anything other than planting themselves on the couch from 8p-1a (EST) tonite?
nope.
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Now this really ticks me offf... those inside the beltway people in the Socialist Republic of Arlington really turning out... no matter... the rural country bumpkins will power me to victory.. thank god our vote still counts according to how much land we own...if only the 3/5ths compromise was still operational...
https://www.arlnow.com/2016/11/08/heavy-turnout-reported-in-arlington/
zero line in Arl for me...but I went at 2:45
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Anyone doing anything other than planting themselves on the couch from 8p-1a (EST) tonite?
nope.
anyone have any good ideas for drinking games??
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Anyone doing anything other than planting themselves on the couch from 8p-1a (EST) tonite?
nope.
anyone have any good ideas for drinking games??
If Trump wins, commit suicide by alcohol poisoning?
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Anyone doing anything other than planting themselves on the couch from 8p-1a (EST) tonite?
nope.
anyone have any good ideas for drinking games??
If Trump wins, commit suicide by alcohol poisoning?
already advised my boss that I'll be showing up to work drunk if it's not final tonight
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was so boring at my polling place
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I hope they voted first.
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looking like he's not 100% sure she's voting for him
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/15036639_10154755358968331_3044582616112196257_n.jpg?oh=5ce59aec85a5f20084394b6044dae008&oe=58D2CA96)
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so we should have had a bet on what time do you think they will call it for HRC
what is the earliest they could call it?
Ok...I'm saying it 9:51....they* are going to call it
*credible news outlet
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WHat are you talking about? I am totally kicking ass! IF you are not worried you either aren't paying attention or you got shit for brains...
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...gap is getting smaller quick
although...not looking good in MI
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a real party pooper
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What a fucking nightmare.
Who knew the non college educated white male bloc was so strong?
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What a fucking nightmare
Nightmare is an understatement.
http://www.nytimes.com/elections/forecast/president
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still, pretty excited about that japandroids, craig finn show in february though
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still, pretty excited about that japandroids, craig finn show in february though
How is Cher going to play her National Harbor shows if she's living on Jupiter?
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Fuck we just elected Mussolini. We are a white nationalist country. This is Americas darkest timeline.
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I win?
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I win?
shit is the AP calling this ....
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and on November 8th the American people replied: why yes, maybe we should just elect Trump president....
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Does what it says on the tin.
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I don't know..its a little underwhelming.. after 150 pages Relaxer's suggestion came true...
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it was all a joke and wasn't supposed to actually happen
I am seriously shocked and in disbelief (and not getting any sleep hasn't help my disorientation)
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^Exhibit A: the problem.
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A couple of weeks ago, my boss of nearly 15 years surprisingly announced he has leaving to take another position elsewhere. Not only was he the best boss that I could possibly dream of in my lifetime, he was also an outstanding mentor and even a friend. For the last two weeks I've been in a state of sadness and general malaise.
And now this.
It's like one of the people in the world that I look up to the most has been indirectly replaced by this asshole.
We'll get through this, America, we have to.
Any thoughts on 2020? I want to say we non-Republicans need to nominate another charismatic black guy due to sheer numbers and recent history. But in reality we may need someone who speaks compassionately for and to the white working class (who could be a charismatic black guy, it's not mutually exclusive), rather than dismissing them as "deplorables".
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I don't know..its a little underwhelming.. after 150 pages Relaxer's suggestion came true...
I'm trying to imagine someone telling me back then what happened last night and I just can't comprehend it. Truth, justice, civility and equality have just been shit upon. This is truly the Idiocracy.
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Well at least weed won.
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Weed, like gravity, always wins.
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Well at least weed won.
weed f'n crushed it
Maine Legalizes Recreational Marijuana
Voters Approve Montana Medical Marijuana Initiative
Nevada Legalizes Recreational Marijuana
Arkansas Voters Legalize Medical Marijuana
Massachusetts Voters Approve The Regulation and Taxation of Marijuana Act
California Legalizes Recreational Marijuana
North Dakota Voters Legalize Medical Marijuana
Florida Voters Approve Expansive Medical Marijuana Law
so does that mean all the voters were high and that's why the election when the way it did
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I've never been so sad, embarrassed, and disgusted to be an American.
Relaxer, you seem to be the guy with the heavy drugs. Got any?
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On and on and on the press went about how the Republican Party was nearing its death. How fucking delusional was that?
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On and on and on the press went about how the Republican Party was nearing its death. How fucking delusional was that?
Me too, I was soo excited that the prospect of Trump destroying the Republican brand as we know it
it is weird how many were against him and how that will play out
He may end up picking 2-3 Justices too
Andrew Sullivan says it well (http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/11/andrew-sullivan-president-trump-and-the-end-of-the-republic.html?mid=facebook_nymag)
This is now Trump?s America. He controls everything from here on forward. He has won this campaign in such a decisive fashion that he owes no one anything. He has destroyed the GOP and remade it in his image. He has humiliated the elites and the elite media. He has embarrassed every pollster and naysayer. He has avenged Obama. And in the coming weeks, Trump will not likely be content to bask in vindication. He will seek unforgiving revenge on those who dared to oppose him. The party apparatus will be remade in his image. The House and Senate will fail to resist anything he proposes ? and those who speak up will be primaried into oblivion. The Supreme Court may well be shifted to the far right for more than a generation to come ? with this massive victory, he can pick a new Supreme Court justice who will make Antonin Scalia seem like a milquetoast. He will have a docile, fawning Congress for at least four years. We will not have an administration so much as a court.
wait...is he comparing Scalia to Frank Turner?!
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On and on and on the press went about how the Republican Party was nearing its death. How fucking delusional was that?
This wasn't about the Republican party. Note that they lost seats in both the House and the Senate. Note that the Republican party hated Trump. There was a "Never Trump" platform in the Republican party. The last two Republican presidential candidates refused to endorse him. Note that more liberal causes like pot won big, gun control won, and higher minimum wages won. This election was a referendum on the status quo - a status quo represented by the most well-connected, well-funded candidate in history. It was a vote against special interests, big money, and cultural elitism. It was a vote against putting the interests of the party and its donors ahead of everything else. It was a vote against proclaiming one thing but doing the opposite. It was a big slap to the face of an overwhelmingly liberal media - an institution so blinded by narcissism that they couldn't even conceive that maybe, just maybe, not everyone thinks like them.
[Full disclosure - I didn't vote for Trump. I think he'll be a really lousy president. Then again, I didn't think he had even a slim chance of winning]
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Save me from tomorrow
I don't want to sail with this ship of fools, no, no
Oh, save me, save me from tomorrow
I don't want to sail with this ship of fools, no, no
I want to run and hide right now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2nCugGQZO0
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On and on and on the press went about how the Republican Party was nearing its death. How fucking delusional was that?
This wasn't about the Republican party. Note that they lost seats in both the House and the Senate. Note that the Republican party hated Trump. There was a "Never Trump" platform in the Republican party. The last two Republican presidential candidates refused to endorse him. Note that more liberal causes like pot won big, gun control won, and higher minimum wages won. This election was a referendum on the status quo - a status quo represented by the most well-connected, well-funded candidate in history. It was a vote against special interests, big money, and cultural elitism. It was a vote against putting the interests of the party and its donors ahead of everything else. It was a vote against proclaiming one thing but doing the opposite. It was a big slap to the face of an overwhelmingly liberal media - an institution so blinded by narcissism that they couldn't even conceive that maybe, just maybe, not everyone thinks like them.
[Full disclosure - I didn't vote for Trump. I think he'll be a really lousy president. Then again, I didn't think he had even a slim chance of winning]
I completely get what you are saying. I even said it myself, that I was open to possibly voting for a Republican candidate like a Kasich for the first time, in part because of what you mention. Just not Trump.
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I wonder what Mike Pence's role will be. Didn't Donald say his plan was to #maga and leave operations to the veep?
Also: Donald Trump Presidential Library.
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not my words...thoughts?
To the candidate who thought she had it in the bag lol:
You and your cabal at the DNC/DLC, Center for American Progress, Podesta Group et al illegally tipped the scales in the Democratic primary to pass you the throne despite it being clear that the Progressive Left is the major viable arm of the Democratic party. Yet you still refused to beg the Left's forgiveness and completely change your corporatist/war-mongering ways and secure our support, requisite to win the general. No, you spat in the face of the Left, appointed a Wall St. crony in Tim Kaine (the man was so useless that you won the state he governs by less than Obama's margin in 2008) when simply adding Bernie to the ticket would've won a resounding victory. Bernie alone would've wiped the floor with Trump and nothing could convince me otherwise. Further note that women did not come out in droves for you and neither did the youth vote, again when contrasted with Obama's performances.
The black vote supported you in the primary but when more information was disclosed of the generationally detrimental impact of you and your husband's crime bill of the 1990s and how you facilitated in the creation of corporate prisons, a large segment of voters seemed to have stayed home. What does this say about you and your history of cronyism/war-mongering? Your failure to allow light to shine on your errors (disclose your dumb emails and Wall St. tapes immediately - voters are much more forgiving than you think; proven by the citizenry's ability to overlook Trump's disgustingness) and sheer tone-deafness to a populous that would rather Russia allegedly commit espionage than be dragged into further unjust wars and horrific trade agreements that disenfranchise the Rust Belt (an area we on the Left should shred you for losing for us a generation at least) was shocking. And to top it all off, you and your supporters have left us to fend off and deal with decisions from a Supreme Court that will inch by inch whittle away at the rights of minorities to vote, invade women and other people's privacy and gerrymander the political landscape to ensure the Republican party's viability for at least two generations to come.
For that alone, you and all those comprising the center of the Democratic Party owe the country an apology and should slither away from "public service" and hopefully from anything to do with politics (God knows each and every one of you will find employment as some filthy lobbyist/political consultant by tomorrow morning) and allow the Progressive wing to fix the country. Today is not a sad day but a day of recompense. We let this happen.
He will serve a short term. I'd be surprised if he even has the will to finish one term. The hope is by then, a Progressive candidate will be thrust on the scene to truly represent the ideals of all Americans (even the many who voted for the first time and saw Trump as the better evil than Clinton). Even the super power that we are sometimes requires a wake up call. That day is here.
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I think Joe Biden would have been a more viable candidate than Bernie (or Hillary).
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Poor ol Martin O'Malley is all "How come nobody is saying *I* would've won?"
And Jim Webb is just walking around punching people.
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Some really, really solid points on here. But I think today I need to go listen to music and take a long walk away from social media and computers and TV. I'm done with this stuff for a while. Life will go on. I hope that some really good music will come out of the next four years.
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Absolutely blown away. As I walked into my polling place a guy tried handing me the Republican sample ballot while saying "Vote For Pedro!", I didn't think he was talking to me. He said it again as I walked by him. He said it a 3rd time and I finally turned around and realized he was directing this statement to me, he was walking away and told his friend "What!? He looked like Pedro to me!"
Glad my vote didn't go to his party. Completely devastated for my family and friends. I knew he was bringing out a LOT of people who "hate" politics, but to think that he built a platform on fear mongering and hate speech.... and won? Jesus Christ.
KKK is out on the streets celebrating in NC in full garb. Amazing. Absolutely amazing.
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He will have a docile, fawning Congress for at least four years.
senate will flip blue in 2 years, if history holds, so he has 2 years of unfettered power.
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I am in the ANGER phase....WTF.. every single fuckin' republican in the country except like 10 had no problem voting for Trump? After all the talk about #NeverTrump.. it was all just bullshit.. they all went along with it...61% of vets voted for Trump.. the guy who skirted Vietnam.. called screwing women in the 70s his Vietnam, insulted John McCain for being a POW etc etc....
WTF is wrong with people...
according to the exits a higher percentage of republicans voted for Trump than the percentage of democrats that voted for Hillary...
oh and lets imagine Trump accepting defeat if he had won the popular vote....
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He will have a docile, fawning Congress for at least four years.
senate will flip blue in 2 years, if history holds, so he has 2 years of unfettered power.
"if history holds".. yes and if history had held we would not have a President Trump...
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I am angry now.
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Fuck Trump.
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Fuck Republicans.
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I feel like Killsally now..
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FUCK ALL THESE PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR HIM.
I am in the anger phase as well. When I'm not crying.
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FUCK ALL THESE PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR HIM.
I am in the anger phase as well. When I'm not crying.
You can thank 3rd party* idiot voters as well...
*no guarantee they would've voted for Hillary and not trump, but if 100k of those votes would've went to her, we wouldn't be here today.
Also, fuck the electoral.
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You can also "thank" women, those under 30, the lower middle class, and hispanics. (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/09/hillary-clinton-failed-to-win-over-black-hispanic-and-female-vot/)
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Electoral college - time for a change?
The fact that the popular vote means nothing is disturbing.
And protests - what? Did you vote?
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I like the electoral college... Argentina for example has no electoral college.. so candidates just focus on the big 3-4 states...
I hate the result though.. it should say something that Hillary got more votes.. unfortunately it just seems to end up saying sour grapes
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my gripe with the electoral college is it makes the candidates focus on the battle ground states
and pretty much all the other states get no attention and I wonder if the liberals in the red states would have been even more energized to get out since their vote would have really mattered
yeah and these protests (which I've not been following) are really kinda stupid
at very least they shouldn't call them protests and call them 'group mourning' or something else
Because it makes it sound like they are disputing the results and I think that's bad form
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Electoral college - time for a change?
The fact that the popular vote means nothing is disturbing.
And protests - what? Did you vote?
All I know is that the Dems have gotten the most votes in four of the past five elections, but have only gotten the presidency in two of them. Draw what conclusions you may from that.
And the protesters/mourners? More power to them. Protest and free speech are part of the fabric of our nation. I'm loving hearing my Trump-supporting in-law and her Trump supporting friends on Facebook make comments like this:
These fucking dumbass kids have no fucking clue
And they can't even vote yet shut up
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You can also "thank" women, those under 30, the lower middle class, and hispanics. (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/09/hillary-clinton-failed-to-win-over-black-hispanic-and-female-vot/)
Lower Dem turnout rate is pretty fucked. Trump got less votes than the last 2 out of 3 Republican candidates. I guess the Dems who disliked Hillary outweighed the Repubs who disliked Tormp? Mind numbing.
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Can you imagine what a fucking crime scene his cabinet is gonna be?
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Can you imagine what a fucking crime scene his cabinet is gonna be?
Sarah Palin in charge of drilling for oil in the national parks. Rudy Guliani in charge of anything.
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these are very hard to read, trigger warning, etc etc etc:
Day 1 In Trump's America
https://twitter.com/i/moments/796417517157830656
13 Election Reactions That Will Disgust You to Your Core
http://www.cosmopolitan.com/politics/a8263120/disgusting-election-reactions/
worth remembering it's just a few bad apples... right?
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I disagree with the criticism of people currently protesting the election of him. This is how movements are started. Tea partiers have been rallying and protesting Obama for the last eight years.
Hopefully the protests starting today will turn into a motivated electorate in the midterms!
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Can you imagine what a fucking crime scene his cabinet is gonna be?
An Apprentice-like reality TV series for choosing cabinet secretaries would be awesome.
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You can also "thank" women, those under 30, the lower middle class, and hispanics. (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/09/hillary-clinton-failed-to-win-over-black-hispanic-and-female-vot/)
Lower Dem turnout rate is pretty fucked. Trump got less votes than the last 2 out of 3 Republican candidates. I guess the Dems who disliked Hillary outweighed the Repubs who disliked Tormp? Mind numbing.
Exactly. Republicans wanted it more.. if you listened to Sean Hannity the day of the election he was- and he did this all week- berating people to get out and vote..
Democrats looked at the polls and thought they had won and some didn't "like" Hillary...also lets be fair: anyone expecting black people to turn out as much for Hillary as they did for Obama was just wrong..it was never going to happen... it is an interesting point because if democrats really want to win they should consider someone like Cory Booker...
IT is really really sad...this was an election that is hard to understand how the hell we could lose...I also think the media and many of us spent too much time laughing and yukking it up about Trump... he just wasn't really taken seriously...
Two other big factors were the bad news about Obamacare .. why the heck couldn't they somehow manage to wait 10 days to deliver it?? And the Comey thing.. I really think Comey sunk her in the end... of course you can add the wikileaks shit.. that didn't help... Hillary's inability to confront trade...trade has been very good for America... unfortunately Bernie pushed her on it and she ceded.. she ended up losing Michigan anyways (in the primaries)... she should have been making the obvious argument that trade has really helped America....
I'm mad and I'm worried.. people like frothing at the mouth Giuliani, Newt etc are going to be running the entire show now... Hannitty... etc. and they got blood in their eyes...they are just do damn angry about everything.. I don't even get what the fuck is so horribly wrong? We've had year after hear of growth, jobs being created. .its just not as fuckin' bad as these people have sold the American people....
This is a really tough loss to swallow cause we should of had this one... at the end of the day though its hard to believe that more Republicans voted for Trump than did democrats for Hillary but its what happened....you could probably count the number of Republicans that had a problem with Trump with one hand! nuts
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also lets face it.. the American people are sexist pigs.. I mean come on.. you have Hillary.. super qualified .. super prepared..trashed him in the three debates.. and she gets beat by Donald Frickin' Trump? Come on...
lets call it like it is.. Republicans are racist bigoted sexist pigs... apparently not one of them cared about the dozen plus women that said he groped them etc. .not one cared about the "I grab them by the pussy.. " tape.. NOT ONE??? Not one of the Republican women either??? I mean it defies belief...
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I mean right wing radio was telling their listeners that their life would be over if Hillary was elected and Trump was not (different variations of this theme.. some more focused on Hillary)....that their way of life...would be over and there would be no way to come back.. that it was their last chance.. that if Hillary was elected hundreds of thousands of Mexicans would be let in.. and hundreds of thousands of muslims... that their way of live.. that America would be over.. Hannity's credo playing every 10 minutes "YOU DECIDE WHETHER AMERICA LIVES OR DIES!!!!!!!!"
Did we have that sense of urgency on our side?
Of course not.. there were still people on the democratic side bitter about Bernie.. .did the Republicans care that Bush and Rubio got emasculated or that Cruz was now a pimp for the guy that screwed his wife? Not a one of them.
We were busy refreshing 538 and going "Oh good.. we got this.." and yukking it up about Trump's latest insanity...
They wanted it more.. that is the sad reality of what it came down to...
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white women without college degrees didn't show up to vote for hillary
i can't take the image of trump at the white house with obama.....after all the birth certificate stuff...i just can't handle it
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white women without college degrees didn't show up to vote for hillary
i can't take the image of trump at the white house with obama.....after all the birth certificate stuff...i just can't handle it
How do you think he (Obama) feels?
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1) Trump ran on a platform of racial resentment.
2) The disenfranchised rural poor and lower middle class, (who are already largely republican) blamed Obama for their poverty.
3) The rural population was further disenfranchised by the social progress - gay marriage, LGBT bathrooms, etc - and blamed liberal city folk for messing with their values.
4) Trump sold the idea -without evidence- that Hilary was criminal.
5) Many women have tragically dismissed sexual harassment as a fact of life and did not consider that to be a major factor in who to vote for.
6) Trump nailed the "Jackass" vote.
Hilary ran on social progress, and to some extent, a continuation of Obama's policies. Yes, she should have won. But no, she didn't get people riled up the way Trump did.
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White House Press Secretary: Obama and Trump "spent a large portion of the meeting discussing how to properly staff a White House operation"
Things are just gonna go swimming well I see... I'm convinced the next four years are going to little than a long press conference
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I'm so over people blaming those who cast supposed "protest votes". Fuck this whole "protest vote" narrative. Unless you write in Mickey Mouse or Grover, a vote is an affirmation, not a protest.
Every election has a few million outlier votes. This one is no different in that regard.
I am horrified at the prospect of a Trump presidency. But his victory sits SQUARELY at the feet of the DNC and HRC. They lost because of their own hubris, their own feeling of entitlement to people's votes. They lost becuase Hillary was a shit candidate, an entirely unlikable candidate. Scratch that...not unlikable, but unliked. Period.
She lost because she was totallly unable to connect with anyone besides the tried and true base of her party. But she was "next in line", so she was shoved down our throats. She in no way captured the hearts and minds of her portion of the electorate that feel disenfranchised and unrepresented. Trump did. He may have done it with sideshow tactics and by appealing to the ugliness in people but he did it.
I am not angry at people who voted third party or write in, I'm angry at the DNC as a whole. At least the GOP electorate had the balls to tell their establishment to go to hell and take matters into their own hands. Unfortunately that leaves us in this horribly frightening predicament.
The takeaway is that people of tired of being served up the same old shit, cycle after cycle. The Dems didn't see the writing on the wall, they couldn't adjust, or wouldnt. Of course this outcome is the last thing I wanted, but all the finger pointing is so unbelievable. They got their ass handed to them by DONALD FUCKING TRUMP. They couldn't even beat him. Shame on the Democratic party for being so blind, so sure of themselves and so entirely narcissistic.
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Apparently the swamp isn't being drained it's going to be stocked with bottom feeders..
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Ali Rizvi:
In the last 48 hours:
- the Muslim ban policy was quietly removed from Trump's website as voters hit the polls;
- Trump praised Clinton highly and showed a willingness to work with her'
- Trump met with Obama and had a 90-minute conversation (which was originally supposed to be 10 minutes), which Obama called "excellent," with Trump saying it's "an honor" to have met Obama, that he hopes to meet Obama "many more times in the future," and??yes??even declares his intention to call on Obama for "counsel."
To some extent, this is normal transitioning after US presidential elections. But with Trump, a lifelong Democrat until a few years ago, this is going to be really interesting to watch. It's too early to say whether Trump just said whatever he needed to win at the time and will now roll back the worst aspects of it. It's too early to say whether this is that "pivot" he was supposed to make this summer. But, as they say in alt-right parlance, Trump's "cucking" has begun.
There will be no Muslim ban (it's unconstitutional anyway), and no one will be prosecuting Hillary, much less throwing her in jail, to the disappointment of the "Lock her up!" crowd. In fact, for a significant segment of Trump's supporters this past year, there will probably be several more disappointments to come.
This, of course, doesn't mean Trump isn't repellant on many levels. He is. But he's a textbook demagogue. And one thing about demagogues: when their audience and role changes, so do they.
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I am horrified at the prospect of a Trump presidency. But his victory sits SQUARELY at the feet of the DNC and HRC. They lost because of their own hubris, their own feeling of entitlement to people's votes. They lost becuase Hillary was a shit candidate, an entirely unlikable candidate. Scratch that...not unlikable, but unliked. Period.
She lost because she was totallly unable to connect with anyone besides the tried and true base of her party. But she was "next in line", so she was shoved down our throats. She in no way captured the hearts and minds of her portion of the electorate that feel disenfranchised and unrepresented. Trump did. He may have done it with sideshow tactics and by appealing to the ugliness in people but he did it.
I don't get this mindset at all. You're arguing all these vague fuzzy concepts that might sound nice but don't mean anything. What specifically, in the real world, should she have done differently? She did countless rallies and appearances, she worked her ass off to appeal to a wide variety of constituencies, she was prepared and ready at the debates, she preached a positive message, and she fought right to the end.
How was she shoved down our throats? Bernie Sanders dragged out the primary for months. She got more Democratic votes than he did, so she won the primary. How else would you like to determine who the candidate is? She was not an ideal candidate, for sure. But who else would you suggest the DNC have backed? Also, she won more popular votes than Trump. I'd hardly say that he "handed their ass to them."
She lost because she was fighting an opponent for whom the truth didn't matter at all, who was free to lie and insult and blowhard his way through the campaign, and people were stupid enough to vote for him anyway. This election lies at the feet of the fucking idiots who elected him, period. And if poor white people were the backbone of his victory, I'm going to take some pleasure watching their worlds go even further to shit when he delivers nothing to them.
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I am horrified at the prospect of a Trump presidency. But his victory sits SQUARELY at the feet of the DNC and HRC. They lost because of their own hubris, their own feeling of entitlement to people's votes. They lost becuase Hillary was a shit candidate, an entirely unlikable candidate. Scratch that...not unlikable, but unliked. Period.
She lost because she was totallly unable to connect with anyone besides the tried and true base of her party. But she was "next in line", so she was shoved down our throats. She in no way captured the hearts and minds of her portion of the electorate that feel disenfranchised and unrepresented. Trump did. He may have done it with sideshow tactics and by appealing to the ugliness in people but he did it.
I don't get this mindset at all. You're arguing all these vague fuzzy concepts that might sound nice but don't mean anything. What specifically, in the real world, should she have done differently? She did countless rallies and appearances, she worked her ass off to appeal to a wide variety of constituencies, she was prepared and ready at the debates, she preached a positive message, and she fought right to the end.
How was she shoved down our throats? Bernie Sanders dragged out the primary for months. She got more Democratic votes than he did, so she won the primary. How else would you like to determine who the candidate is? She was not an ideal candidate, for sure. But who else would you suggest the DNC have backed? Also, she won more popular votes than Trump. I'd hardly say that he "handed their ass to them."
She lost because she was fighting an opponent for whom the truth didn't matter at all, who was free to lie and insult and blowhard his way through the campaign, and people were stupid enough to vote for him anyway. This election lies at the feet of the fucking idiots who elected him, period. And if poor white people were the backbone of his victory, I'm going to take some pleasure watching their worlds go even further to shit when he delivers nothing to them.
You're not going to win any future elections taking that putrid point of view. Whatever happened to having a kind heart toward the less fortunate?
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Having a kind heart toward the less fortunate is why Hillary is at home today and Trump is at the White House, loser.
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Having a kind heart toward the less fortunate is why Hillary is at home today and Trump is at the White House, loser.
Hillary didn't have a kind heart toward the less fortunate. She dismissed them as a basket of deplorables.
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I am horrified at the prospect of a Trump presidency. But his victory sits SQUARELY at the feet of the DNC and HRC. They lost because of their own hubris, their own feeling of entitlement to people's votes. They lost becuase Hillary was a shit candidate, an entirely unlikable candidate. Scratch that...not unlikable, but unliked. Period.
She lost because she was totallly unable to connect with anyone besides the tried and true base of her party. But she was "next in line", so she was shoved down our throats. She in no way captured the hearts and minds of her portion of the electorate that feel disenfranchised and unrepresented. Trump did. He may have done it with sideshow tactics and by appealing to the ugliness in people but he did it.
How was she shoved down our throats? Bernie Sanders dragged out the primary for months. She got more Democratic votes than he did, so she won the primary. How else would you like to determine who the candidate is? She was not an ideal candidate, for sure. But who else would you suggest the DNC have backed? Also, she won more popular votes than Trump. I'd hardly say that he "handed their ass to them."
This is laughable question - for starters, in the primaries he got about 45% of the popular vote. And only ONE sitting Senator endorsed him. Does that sound like elected officials representing their constituents to you? Or does is sound like everyone just stepping in line, too afraid to upset the apple cart?
And there was proven collusion between the DNC and the HRC campaign against the Sanders campaign. Wasserman-Shultz steps down in supposed disgrace, and she's hired right up by the Clinton campaign.
These actions alone were a huge fuck you to to Sanders supporters. Many of these people, including myself, still voted Dem but this massive middle finger most definitely diminished the amount of passion, campaigning or stumping any of these people would commit to her campaign.
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I guess you can argue that Hilary should have handled things better, or done more to get more votes, but ultimately the people who voted for Trump are going to have to own that.
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I guess you can argue that Hilary should have handled things better, or done more to get more votes, but ultimately the people who voted for Trump are going to have to own that.
I didn't vote for Trump, but I'm hoping he does a surprisingly good job. Though if I were a betting man, I'd bet on him being a miserable failure.
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yawn.. the Bernie argument.. so over it.. really people its called politics.. of course the DNC did what it could to have Hillary be the candidate. .what do you expect? Bernie failed because he couldn't get a black person to vote for him....
the question to me isn't whether Hillary should have been the candidate or not.... I think she won the primaries... a few things like somebody telling Hillary a debate question did not determine the outcomes..
the question is whether Hillary erred big time in not picking Bernie to be her VP...we don't know the behind the scenes... but there was a point..before NY / Northeast primaries where Bernie seemed to be toning down his message and preparing for an exit...then after NY and all those primaries where he got clobbered he suddenly was "I"m going to the end.."
MY theory is that Bernie wanted and felt he was owed the VP and when Hillary told him it wasn't going to happen is when it got ugly.. that really hurt Hillary - and an earlier end before it got so ugly and Bernie gave Trump his talking points or at least validated them- with Bernie being on the ticket would have resonated more with at least some of the voters that ended up going with Trump...
we may someday know what happened.. why did Bernie get so damn belligerent? To the point where his campaign argued that even with less delegates or votes he should be selected? I found his behavior atrocious and by the end I didn't want to see or hear from him again.
In the end, although I celebrated the Kaine selection with the failure at hand I have to second guess myself... even a Sherrod Brown (is that his name..the dude from OH) might have been better....
I don't get all the criticism for Hillary.. she worked her ass off.. nothing was handed to her at all! she campaigned her heart out.. she worked hard and beat him in all three debates.. the voters just didn't want to hear it...a lot of things we had no way to predict would happen when the primaries were going on.. the wikileaks.. Comey setting up Hillary....I don't know... I also don't know that Bernie would have won....I didn't think he could during the primaries....but you can't predict hypotheticals....
I think at the end of the day the American people just fucked up big time... that is what it comes down to... they elected an unqualified racist, bigot, sexist pig sack of shit over a tough as nails qualilfied lifetime public servant who knows the job of President better than anyone.. I think this election proves that a whole lot of Americans are deplorables.. sorry to say...
and I hope Trump does a good job.. I wish nothing but the best for the USA which I love.. but he will never be my president... making fun of the disabled is a disqualifier for me... there is no going back for me.
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Yes, it is amazing that the Democratic National Party wasn't predisposed toward non-Democrat, Socialist Bernie Sanders, whose campaign pledges were just as vague and non-realistic as Trump's. My heart is with Bernie. I agree with much of what he said and I would have loved to see him win the nom and become president. But none of what he said and how he said it had any basis in a reality where the GOP controls the House and is not inclined to move in any way on anything coming from a Democratic White House.
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^exactly.
and speak of the guy look at what he just posted on Facebook.. you can certainly read it as a swipe at Hillary.. kind of a low blow I think.. we get it BERNIE we get it.. YOUR SHIT DON'T STINK!
U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders
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We cannot be a party which on one hand says we're in favor of working people, we're in favor of the needs of young people but we don't quite have the courage to take on Wall Street and the billionaire class. People do not believe that. The Democratic Party has got to decide which side it's on.
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yawn.. the Bernie argument.. so over it.. really people its called politics.. of course the DNC did what it could to have Hillary be the candidate. .what do you expect? Bernie failed because he couldn't get a black person to vote for him....
the question to me isn't whether Hillary should have been the candidate or not.... I think she won the primaries... a few things like somebody telling Hillary a debate question did not determine the outcomes..
the question is whether Hillary erred big time in not picking Bernie to be her VP...we don't know the behind the scenes... but there was a point..before NY / Northeast primaries where Bernie seemed to be toning down his message and preparing for an exit...then after NY and all those primaries where he got clobbered he suddenly was "I"m going to the end.."
MY theory is that Bernie wanted and felt he was owed the VP and when Hillary told him it wasn't going to happen is when it got ugly.. that really hurt Hillary - and an earlier end before it got so ugly and Bernie gave Trump his talking points or at least validated them- with Bernie being on the ticket would have resonated more with at least some of the voters that ended up going with Trump...
we may someday know what happened.. why did Bernie get so damn belligerent? To the point where his campaign argued that even with less delegates or votes he should be selected? I found his behavior atrocious and by the end I didn't want to see or hear from him again.
In the end, although I celebrated the Kaine selection with the failure at hand I have to second guess myself... even a Sherrod Brown (is that his name..the dude from OH) might have been better....
I don't get all the criticism for Hillary.. she worked her ass off.. nothing was handed to her at all! she campaigned her heart out.. she worked hard and beat him in all three debates.. the voters just didn't want to hear it...a lot of things we had no way to predict would happen when the primaries were going on.. the wikileaks.. Comey setting up Hillary....I don't know... I also don't know that Bernie would have won....I didn't think he could during the primaries....but you can't predict hypotheticals....
I think at the end of the day the American people just fucked up big time... that is what it comes down to... they elected an unqualified racist, bigot, sexist pig sack of shit over a tough as nails qualilfied lifetime public servant who knows the job of President better than anyone.. I think this election proves that a whole lot of Americans are deplorables.. sorry to say...
and I hope Trump does a good job.. I wish nothing but the best for the USA which I love.. but he will never be my president... making fun of the disabled is a disqualifier for me... there is no going back for me.
I enjoyed reading this but I disagree with a couple of things here.
Bernie got more aggressive with Hillary because Hillary and her surrogates took off the gloves with him. He was always planning to go the distance and never expected to be VP. When John Lewis attacked Bernie Sanders on his Civil Rights record it was pretty low.
Even with that little bit of a rough spot Bernie mostly pulled his punches with Hillary and in the end it didn't do either of them any favors. The best example was the emails. She would have been way better off if that story had been over with and people were tired of it by the summer. Instead it was largely fresh for the Republicans to use. Same thing with the foundation.
Clinton might have campaigned hard but it wasn't an effective campaign. She was horrible about expressing her vision or what she would do that was popular. It was at best vaguely more Obama, but without the charisma. And then at the end she got conservative and made the entire election a choice of personality with Trump. For many of us this was a clear choice. But Hillary isn't particularly popular herself and she is a consummate insider. A lot of people decided they would prefer Trump's flaws to more of the same.
The Democratic nomination was definitely handed to HRC. The field was cleared and Wasserman-Shultz, Donna Brazile and the rest of the party was clearly working for her. I understand why, but it definitely led to the feeling that she was anointed rather than elected. This too chummy with the Democratic elite stuff ended up biting them in the ass. The tarmac meeting with Lynch put the Justice Department in a huge bind.
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Yes, it is amazing that the Democratic National Party wasn't predisposed toward non-Democrat, Socialist Bernie Sanders, whose campaign pledges were just as vague and non-realistic as Trump's. My heart is with Bernie. I agree with much of what he said and I would have loved to see him win the nom and become president. But none of what he said and how he said it had any basis in a reality where the GOP controls the House and is not inclined to move in any way on anything coming from a Democratic White House.
This is of course right. And the Democratic party came together to support HRC. And in most years she would have beaten Trump. But after years of the Republicans eroding faith in government it was an election for outsiders and the R's let one win their primary (or couldn't stop it at least).
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yawn.. the Bernie argument.. so over it.. really people its called politics.. of course the DNC did what it could to have Hillary be the candidate. .
This is EXACTLY what I'm talking about.
"Oh aren't you cute, but you don't really understand how this thing works do you?"
I know how it works. And we deserve better.
I am honestly shocked at the degree to which people are not holding the Democratic party accountable for this absolutely historic and epic meltdown.
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Some sickening behavior here:
http://www.tmz.com/2016/11/10/trump-supporter-beat-up-chicago-fight/
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yawn.. the Bernie argument.. so over it.. really people its called politics.. of course the DNC did what it could to have Hillary be the candidate. .
This is EXACTLY what I'm talking about.
"Oh aren't you cute, but you don't really understand how this thing works do you?"
I know how it works. And we deserve better.
I am honestly shocked at the degree to which people are not holding the Democratic party accountable for this absolutely historic and epic meltdown.
+1 learn from your mistakes or it's going to be eight years of Trump.
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yawn.. the Bernie argument.. so over it.. really people its called politics.. of course the DNC did what it could to have Hillary be the candidate. .
This is EXACTLY what I'm talking about.
"Oh aren't you cute, but you don't really understand how this thing works do you?"
I know how it works. And we deserve better.
I am honestly shocked at the degree to which people are not holding the Democratic party accountable for this absolutely historic and epic meltdown.
but Chaz it is a political party NOT the same as a national election..its a party election .. of course the consummate party insider is going to have an advantage over a guy that just joined the party right before the party election..
I am shocked that you are holding the democratic party responsible for the American people voting for Donald Trump.. its rather weird.. shouldn't you be holding the voters accountable or isn't this a democracy?
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yawn.. the Bernie argument.. so over it.. really people its called politics.. of course the DNC did what it could to have Hillary be the candidate. .
This is EXACTLY what I'm talking about.
"Oh aren't you cute, but you don't really understand how this thing works do you?"
I know how it works. And we deserve better.
I am honestly shocked at the degree to which people are not holding the Democratic party accountable for this absolutely historic and epic meltdown.
but Chaz it is a political party NOT the same as a national election..its a party election .. of course the consummate party insider is going to have an advantage over a guy that just joined the party right before the party election..
I am shocked that you are holding the democratic party responsible for the American people voting for Donald Trump.. its rather weird.. shouldn't you be holding the voters accountable or isn't this a democracy?
Um, hello, it's 2008 on the phone. He wants to have a word with you.
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yawn.. the Bernie argument.. so over it.. really people its called politics.. of course the DNC did what it could to have Hillary be the candidate. .
This is EXACTLY what I'm talking about.
"Oh aren't you cute, but you don't really understand how this thing works do you?"
I know how it works. And we deserve better.
I am honestly shocked at the degree to which people are not holding the Democratic party accountable for this absolutely historic and epic meltdown.
+1 learn from your mistakes or it's going to be eight years of Trump.
People selected Hillary not the party.. they had primaries and caucuses.. lots and lots of them.. Hillary won some and Bernie won some... millions of people voted.. they had many many debates... Hillary won every single one as she always has.. she also beat Obama in every one and Trump in every one...so its not saying Bernie is a bad guy or something.. but in the end a lot of black people, women, older voters and latinos
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yawn.. the Bernie argument.. so over it.. really people its called politics.. of course the DNC did what it could to have Hillary be the candidate. .
This is EXACTLY what I'm talking about.
"Oh aren't you cute, but you don't really understand how this thing works do you?"
I know how it works. And we deserve better.
I am honestly shocked at the degree to which people are not holding the Democratic party accountable for this absolutely historic and epic meltdown.
but Chaz it is a political party NOT the same as a national election..its a party election .. of course the consummate party insider is going to have an advantage over a guy that just joined the party right before the party election..
I am shocked that you are holding the democratic party responsible for the American people voting for Donald Trump.. its rather weird.. shouldn't you be holding the voters accountable or isn't this a democracy?
Um, hello, it's 2008 on the phone. He wants to have a word with you.
I agree. .which is why Obama's victory was such a huge deal.. because he did MORE than her to win.. Bernie did not... the way I look at it its like a boxing fight.. you know how the tie goes to the defending champion..well its the same here. .the challenger has to do more... maybe its not entirely fair but its just the way it is.. Obama did do more than Hillary and he got the nomination.. Bernie simply did not.. not getting any African Americans to vote for him meant he just wasn't going to get the nod...
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anyways this is so played out... the vitriol by Berniers , not on this board but that I saw on the net, really really ticked me off.. they really set the table for Trump.... the shit people were tweeting me about Hillary during the primaries paled in comparison to what Trumptards said later on....
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yawn.. the Bernie argument.. so over it.. really people its called politics.. of course the DNC did what it could to have Hillary be the candidate. .what do you expect? Bernie failed because he couldn't get a black person to vote for him....
the question to me isn't whether Hillary should have been the candidate or not.... I think she won the primaries... a few things like somebody telling Hillary a debate question did not determine the outcomes..
the question is whether Hillary erred big time in not picking Bernie to be her VP...we don't know the behind the scenes... but there was a point..before NY / Northeast primaries where Bernie seemed to be toning down his message and preparing for an exit...then after NY and all those primaries where he got clobbered he suddenly was "I"m going to the end.."
MY theory is that Bernie wanted and felt he was owed the VP and when Hillary told him it wasn't going to happen is when it got ugly.. that really hurt Hillary - and an earlier end before it got so ugly and Bernie gave Trump his talking points or at least validated them- with Bernie being on the ticket would have resonated more with at least some of the voters that ended up going with Trump...
we may someday know what happened.. why did Bernie get so damn belligerent? To the point where his campaign argued that even with less delegates or votes he should be selected? I found his behavior atrocious and by the end I didn't want to see or hear from him again.
In the end, although I celebrated the Kaine selection with the failure at hand I have to second guess myself... even a Sherrod Brown (is that his name..the dude from OH) might have been better....
I don't get all the criticism for Hillary.. she worked her ass off.. nothing was handed to her at all! she campaigned her heart out.. she worked hard and beat him in all three debates.. the voters just didn't want to hear it...a lot of things we had no way to predict would happen when the primaries were going on.. the wikileaks.. Comey setting up Hillary....I don't know... I also don't know that Bernie would have won....I didn't think he could during the primaries....but you can't predict hypotheticals....
I think at the end of the day the American people just fucked up big time... that is what it comes down to... they elected an unqualified racist, bigot, sexist pig sack of shit over a tough as nails qualilfied lifetime public servant who knows the job of President better than anyone.. I think this election proves that a whole lot of Americans are deplorables.. sorry to say...
and I hope Trump does a good job.. I wish nothing but the best for the USA which I love.. but he will never be my president... making fun of the disabled is a disqualifier for me... there is no going back for me.
I enjoyed reading this but I disagree with a couple of things here.
Bernie got more aggressive with Hillary because Hillary and her surrogates took off the gloves with him. He was always planning to go the distance and never expected to be VP. When John Lewis attacked Bernie Sanders on his Civil Rights record it was pretty low.
Even with that little bit of a rough spot Bernie mostly pulled his punches with Hillary and in the end it didn't do him any favors. The best example was the emails. She would have been way better off if that story had been over with and people were tired of it by the summer. Instead it was largely fresh for the Republicans to use. Same thing with the foundation.
Clinton might have campaigned hard but it wasn't an effective campaign. She was horrible about expressing her vision or what she would do that was popular. It was at best vaguely more Obama, but without the charisma. And then at the end she got conservative and made the entire election a choice of personality with Trump. For many of us this was a clear choice. But Hillary isn't particularly popular herself and she is a consummate insider. A lot of people decided they would prefer Trump's flaws to more of the same.
The Democratic nomination was definitely handed to HRC. The field was cleared and Wasserman-Shultz, Donna Brazile and the rest of the party was clearly working for her. I understand why, but it definitely led to the feeling that she was anointed rather than elected. This too chummy with the Democratic elite stuff ended up biting them in the ass. The tarmac meeting with Lynch put the Justice Department in a huge bind.
I think you're one of the most thoughtful posters on the board and I always enjoy reading your posts.
I hear what you're saying.. I guess we disagree on a few things!
For example, you say Bernie was definitely always going to the end.. but that is the same stuff they always say.. everyone says that... it does not mean that was always their intention.. I actually think a lot of the problems stemmed from that comic book store owner of the shop a mile from me.. luckily I have blacked out his name.. he was very hardcore.. anyways, now Bernie supporters want him as candidate in 2020.. really? he will be like what 900 years old???
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anyways.. to quote a great failed candidate "At this point what difference does it make?"
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Though I admit I didn't make it all the way through this article (yet), it's a good one:
The smug style in American liberalism
http://www.vox.com/2016/4/21/11451378/smug-american-liberalism
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anyways this is so played out... the vitriol by Berniers , not on this board but that I saw on the net, really really ticked me off.. they really set the table for Trump.... the shit people were tweeting me about Hillary during the primaries paled in comparison to what Trumptards said later on....
Despite the fact that I don't particularly like her I still wanted her to win. And on point you make above I totally agree with you....all that negativity hurt her badly. I got completely tired of hearing it and it played right into Trumps hands. While I may have agreed with some of the rhetoric behind it I found it to be totally counterproductive. It all sounded childish to me.
But I do believe it was a mess of their own making. I find it hard to imagine a scenario where Bernie could have gotten the nomination, but he had a massive groundswell of incredibly passionate support. And at the conclusion of the primary no effort was made to connect with these millions of people. If there was one I sure didn't see it. Except throwing in the occasional statement about making college more affordable.
In my opinion, they blew it hard. They thought way too much of themselves. I always thought of the perceived cultural elitism of the Democratic party to be somewhat of a farce. But certainly in the days following this election I'm seeing it. Maybe it was always there and I didn't want to recognize it, but I do now. In fact it's right here in this thread.
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What is cultural elitism exactly?
yeah thats the problem. cultural elitism.. not the fact Trump is a racist sexist bigoted lyin' sack of shit....or that like 65 million Americans voted for a guy who makes fun of the disabled for shits and giggles..
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do we need a new Trump thread or is this going to be the politics thread for the next 4/8 years?
How about a new thread:
Trump- The Resistance is so Punk Rock
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What is cultural elitism exactly?
yeah thats the problem. cultural elitism.. not the fact Trump is a racist sexist bigoted lyin' sack of shit....or that like 65 million Americans voted for a guy who makes fun of the disabled for shits and giggles..
Look, there's no defending Trump. I totally agree and it makes me sick. But if you don't know what i'm referring to where cultural elitism is concerned I don't know what to say. It's right here in this thread.
Ive had so many of these convos in the past two days it's making me sick. I am on your side....in the end i think we want the same things. All i'm really commenting on is what I think was a totally misguided effort by the dems to win this election. That is all. I think we deserve better. I think we should hold our leaders up to a higher standard than we do. I'm not talking about trump. I'm talking about the democratic party here. This does not make me a traitor as many have called me lateley, I just want better than what we are getting.
That's all I'm gonna say.
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What is cultural elitism exactly?
yeah thats the problem. cultural elitism.. not the fact Trump is a racist sexist bigoted lyin' sack of shit....or that like 65 million Americans voted for a guy who makes fun of the disabled for shits and giggles..
Look, there's no defending Trump. I totally agree and it makes me sick. But if you don't know what i'm referring to where cultural elitism is concerned I don't know what to say. It's right here in this thread.
Ive had so many of these convos in the past two days it's making me sick. I am on your side....in the end i think we want the same things. All i'm really commenting on is what I think was a totally misguided effort by the dems to win this election. That is all. I think we deserve better. I think we should hold our leaders up to a higher standard than we do. I'm not talking about trump. I'm talking about the democratic party here. This does not make me a traitor as many have called me lateley, I just want better than what we are getting.
That's all I'm gonna say.
allright..got it.. sure we can agree.
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But what about my proposal for a new Trump thread? This one depresses me...
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But what about my proposal for a new Trump thread? This one depresses me...
Be the change you want to see on this message board.
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yawn.. the Bernie argument.. so over it..
MY theory is that Bernie wanted and felt he was owed the VP
whoa...that's a conspiracy thread I've yet to hear
full disclosure, I felt the burn. But I was a realist that he didn't have what it took to win. I think that the things he says and the stands he takes...are all aligned with me.
and honestly ....the kind of things I think the democratic party should strive for.
It is odd how the populist message that we're all in it together totally lost to the "it's 'them' who are making us sad/poor/afraid and I'm the candidate who can take care of them"
I think both BS and HRC were just meh candidates. Didn't hurt there was a generational hatred of HRC bread into the very fabric of the RNC for two decades. They didn't know why, but they fuckin hated Hill.
You know who I think would have had a great chance...Elizabeth Warren
I honestly think she would have nailed it and not had the baggage that Hillary had
The Democratic nomination was definitely handed to HRC. The field was cleared and Wasserman-Shultz, Donna Brazile and the rest of the party was clearly working for her. I understand why, but it definitely led to the feeling that she was anointed rather than elected. This too chummy with the Democratic elite stuff ended up biting them in the ass. The tarmac meeting with Lynch put the Justice Department in a huge bind.
I mean all those things suck when you say them in order like that
but there was not another credible candidate.
Frankly shocked how much grondswell bernie got in the middle there
So what are the stats on the bern'ers...did the not vote for Hillary
Did they vote for trump/gary/jill?
or not come out at all
a lot of blame is being put on bernie....but did the millions who were excited for him come out an vote for HRC?
I will admit the post election posting probably could have waited.
I'm some what curious the number of Americans who woke up on the 9th and didn't vote and shit their pants
What is that #...1 million...20 million...100 million.
I live in a bubble in DC/Arlington and I know it. But people are depressed and almost don't know how to act in public. I've got to assume everyone here on this board voted. But, do you know coworkers/friends/family who spent the last 6 months bitching about how insane trump was and didn't vote? I'm probably the most angry at those people.
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But what about my proposal for a new Trump thread? This one depresses me...
Be the change you want to see on this message board.
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full disclosure, I felt the burn. But I was a realist that he didn't have what it took to win.
i'm not sure how realistic your realism is... but i know have the benefit of hindsight, so it doesn't matter. but ol' bernie would have done much better at tapping into the white less-educated resentment vote (AKA what brought trump to power). i want to believe that bernie would have gotten enough of them to carry a few of the traditionally blue states that trump took.
funny, at the time we all thought that bernie was too radical to get elected... now i look at it and think he was barely "radical" enough.
You know who I think would have had a great chance...Elizabeth Warren
I honestly think she would have nailed it and not had the baggage that Hillary had
lizzy 2020 - book it now.
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You know who I think would have had a great chance...Elizabeth Warren
I honestly think she would have nailed it and not had the baggage that Hillary had
Pocahontas???
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Just thinking about the whole mocking the disabled guy thing...I agree with Hutch's sentiments.
I'll be the first to admit, I have mocked a disabled person or two in my lifetime. We all do asshole things in our life, and that is an asshole thing I have done. I own that fact and feel shame for my actions. And i think it should probably disqualify me from being POTUS.
Why the Republican Party would not have disqualified him from contention right then and there is beyond me.
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funny, at the time we all thought that bernie was too radical to get elected... now i look at it and think he was barely "radical" enough.
I am not sure about that
but I was even more sure that Trump had no chance...so whatthefuckdoIknow
lizzy 2020 - book it now.
I'm with her!
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yes, because America . . . loves, old women.
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yes, because America . . . loves, old women.
Exactly.. lets see. we get an old woman without the actual experience.. oh yah that's going to work..
Lets face it.. we will likely not have a female president in our lifetimes.. if Hillary could not do it I don't know who can... .women are always seen as weak and too sensitive to handle national security so what did Hillary do? She ratcheted up her national security bonafides in the Senate and was Secretary of State for four years.. she then lost to a sexist pig with zero experience and a whole host of other issues... People who don't recognize the sexism in the election of Trump are just not paying attention
Elizabeth Warren is also an awful speaker and I can't see her inspiring anyone... Trump would eat her alive and enjoy it...
But hey if Harambe gets the nomination I will support him 100%.. I will support ANYONE the democratic party puts up against Trump...Elizabeth Warren...great.. 76 year old jewish socialist who will be 80 at end (same as Trump would be? BTW I looked up Trump's family. .they all live to be 100... we'll also probably be stuck with Donald Jr running).. awesome...a nice guy (that is all Kaine apparently is)... go for it... anyone
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You know who I like.. that Senator from Hawaii or is she a Representative? Tulsi Gabbagabba or something like that...
But I think the woman thing is going to be very hard to do again.... Hillary was tough as nails and she still got punished for being a woman...
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Why the Republican Party would not have disqualified him from contention right then and there is beyond me.
DNC did that with Bernie and is being vilified for it. How would you suggest they disqualify Trump?
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.. 76 year old jewish socialist who will be 80
too good not to share
(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15078682_10154096820064021_3079197256660060187_n.jpg?oh=9d1cfb0542bf5120d78a918d97651b67&oe=588FFEBB)
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.. 76 year old jewish socialist who will be 80
too good not to share
(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15078682_10154096820064021_3079197256660060187_n.jpg?oh=9d1cfb0542bf5120d78a918d97651b67&oe=588FFEBB)
Trump would kill "low energy old jew Sanders"...just look at the picture
also keep in mind we have no idea if we will have the electoral system we have today when he runs...
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yes, because America . . . loves, old women.
Exactly.. lets see. we get an old woman without the actual experience.. oh yah that's going to work..
Lets face it.. we will likely not have a female president in our lifetimes.. if Hillary could not do it I don't know who can... .women are always seen as weak and too sensitive to handle national security so what did Hillary do? She ratcheted up her national security bonafides in the Senate and was Secretary of State for four years.. she then lost to a sexist pig with zero experience and a whole host of other issues... People who don't recognize the sexism in the election of Trump are just not paying attention
anyone
How about that one legged woman from Illinois who is also a veteran? You get disabled and woman in one fell swoop. Plus, she's a vet so she's seen as tough but no a bitch. I'm not talking 2020 but maybe somewhere down the line.
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.. 76 year old jewish socialist who will be 80
too good not to share
(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15078682_10154096820064021_3079197256660060187_n.jpg?oh=9d1cfb0542bf5120d78a918d97651b67&oe=588FFEBB)
I don't think Sanders is tall enough. Doesn't the taller candidate usually win? I say Kareem ditches the stupid religion, changes his name back to Lew, and runs against Trump. If his disease doesn't kill him off. One of the debates could be a game of one on one and another could be a game of HORSE.
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Why the Republican Party would not have disqualified him from contention right then and there is beyond me.
DNC did that with Bernie and is being vilified for it. How would you suggest they disqualify Trump?
Did Bernie mock a disabled person?
What kills me is my mother-in-law teaches disabled children and she still voted for motherfucking Trump. No Xmas visit for her this year.
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I think I'm finally talked out on this one....
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I think I'm finally talked out on this one....
I know you and I seriously doubt that
but take the weekend off, you deserve a break...don't get on your computer until Monday
play with the kids, make a big crock pot meal, roll in the leaves (although watch out for the poo)
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this headline makes me really sad
Voter turnout at 20-year low (http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/11/politics/popular-vote-turnout-2016/)
I was under the impression that everyone knew the stakes
2008, 63% of voting age citizens cast a ballot.
2016 55%
WTF how could 45% of people not vote in this election!
I thought turnout would have been record setting
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this headline makes me really sad
Voter turnout at 20-year low (http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/11/politics/popular-vote-turnout-2016/)
I was under the impression that everyone knew the stakes
2008, 63% of voting age citizens cast a ballot.
2016 55%
WTF how could 45% of people not vote in this election!
I thought turnout would have been record setting
My mom disliked both Trump and Hillary and did not vote. I respect that. To me a no-vote IS a vote.
If you look at total votes for Trump 2016, Hillary 2016, Obama 2012 and Mitt 2012, Trump came in last.
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If you did not vote, i want to drink your blood from your slashed wrists.
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If you did not vote, i want to drink your blood from your slashed wrists.
that's where my anger is directed as of late
I think I might actually slap a liberal person if they told me they didn't vote
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For those who aren't sick of the topic yet:
Democrats once represented the working class. Not any more.
Bill Clinton and Barack Obama helped shift power away from the people towards corporations. It was this that created an opening for Donald Trump
Robert Reich
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/nov/10/democrats-working-class-americans-us-election
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As a right-wing religious extremist, Pence is much more dangerous then Trump.
Pence Promises Supporters That LGBTQ Rights Will Be FIRST To Go
http://usuncut.news/2016/11/10/pence-promises-supporters-that-lgbtq-rights-will-be-first-to-go-video/
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Without irony, Mike Pence is leading Trump's "transition team".
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Pence, is the new Cheney.
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(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--GTsRCzFx--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/ua23vp0l4bditorlv4w6.jpg)
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That sounds like someone who used to post on here, a lot.
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Will the TrumpKidsTM and PenceLingsTM be welcomed into the 930? owner's balcony? What shows will they attend?
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Pence, is the new Cheney.
Only dumber.
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Comey is the new excuse.
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Comey is the new excuse.
I have to chime in that I don't think it is an excuse... I think it is a fact...
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Comey is the new excuse.
I have to chime in that I don't think it is an excuse... I think it is a fact...
Well then you have a very soft definition of the word "fact".
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Chappelle hosting SNL tonight should be interesting.
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Comey is the new excuse.
I have to chime in that I don't think it is an excuse... I think it is a fact...
Well then you have a very soft definition of the word "fact".
So you're saying it didn't affect the election at all?
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Comey is the new excuse.
I have to chime in that I don't think it is an excuse... I think it is a fact...
Well then you have a very soft definition of the word "fact".
So you're saying it didn't affect the election at all?
I completely agree with what the Clinton campaign said on the conference call..
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I wonder if Hinkley can figure out uber?
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I wonder if Hinkley can figure out uber?
You realize, that post . . . just put you, on a list.
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I wonder if Hinkley can figure out uber?
You realize, that post . . . just put you, on a list.
He started it. I can be silly, just like him.
http://www.politicususa.com/2016/08/09/time-weeks-trump-campaign-threatened-kill-hillary-clinton.html
Just minutes ago, Donald Trump told his supporters that one of them could shoot Hillary Clinton to stop her from picking Supreme Court justices if she is elected president. He said, ?By the way, if she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do folks. Although, the Second Amendment people maybe there is. I don?t know.?
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^that feels like 10 years ago.....the media feigned outrage and then went back to yukkin' it up about how Trump could not win...
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Chappelle hosting SNL tonight should be interesting.
holy shit that opening was just unfucking believable
on so many levels
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Here's a good one.
http://www2.nybooks.com/daily/s3/nov/10/trump-election-autocracy-rules-for-survival.html
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I guess I'm different.. i am in no mood to watch the CHappelle monologue or the hallellujah..and it will not amuse me....its not going to change the fact we have an anti-semite racist as Trump's right hand man in the White House (Bannon who I am convinced was his real campaign manager the last three months and not Kellyanne Conway who was more of a spokesperson).. but to people shocked by this I would say Trump won the election..what did you expect?
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The cold opening is both comforting and incredibly sad.
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Blair students stage walkout to protest Trump. Head to wheaton plaza food court.
http://www.fox5dc.com/news/217384690-story
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man I did not want Trump as President either but I'm not entirely sure how I feel about these protests... probably negative.. there's a time and place for everything...
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/global-opinions/wp/2016/11/10/im-a-muslim-a-woman-and-an-immigrant-i-voted-for-trump/?postshare=5571478804916292&tid=ss_tw
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Blair students stage walkout to protest Trump. Head to wheaton plaza food court.
http://www.fox5dc.com/news/217384690-story
Someone posted it on my timeline - the vitriol is just sad. This country is not in a good place.
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Blair students stage walkout to protest Trump. Head to wheaton plaza food court.
http://www.fox5dc.com/news/217384690-story
Someone posted it on my timeline - the vitriol is just sad. This country is not in a good place.
And conservatives will blame Obama and Hillary for not speaking out more to calm the masses. When in reality what the masses need (for starters) is some major apologizing from Trump.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/global-opinions/wp/2016/11/10/im-a-muslim-a-woman-and-an-immigrant-i-voted-for-trump/?postshare=5571478804916292&tid=ss_tw
No, THIS is sad.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/global-opinions/wp/2016/11/10/im-a-muslim-a-woman-and-an-immigrant-i-voted-for-trump/?postshare=5571478804916292&tid=ss_tw
No, THIS is sad.
I think she raises some fair points, but to think that Trump is the answer is sad. And stupid.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/global-opinions/wp/2016/11/10/im-a-muslim-a-woman-and-an-immigrant-i-voted-for-trump/?postshare=5571478804916292&tid=ss_tw
No, THIS is sad.
I think she raises some fair points, but to think that Trump is the answer is sad. And stupid.
^ that is my summary of the entire election: ok, you're frustrated, you feel cheated... but: trump??? really?!?
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/global-opinions/wp/2016/11/10/im-a-muslim-a-woman-and-an-immigrant-i-voted-for-trump/?postshare=5571478804916292&tid=ss_tw
No, THIS is sad.
I think she raises some fair points, but to think that Trump is the answer is sad. And stupid.
Super sad and super stupid, even with the fair, well-written points. It's INSANE this is where we are. On both sides.
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Trump doesn't want calm maybe.. they have a different model.. they want a permanent sense of agitation and to keep their base mobilized/stoked.... He'll probably be doing a dance the entire time.. keeping the base mobilized while trying to appear reasonable to the middle.. kind of like he campaigned.. with Bannon as his chief strategist/counsel shouldn't we expect things to continue... of course Priebus is there to guarantee some not crazy.. but Bannon behind the scenes will continue the crazy.. that would be my guess
its notable that in the end Hillary will have a fairly nice margin in the popular vote.. but that is not the way the game is played.. in the end there is so much to piece together but it does seem that she lost MI, WI and PA by small margins that if the black turnout had been there like it was for Obama would not have been the case.... but of course it was never going to be the case...still if we look at it dispassionately Hillary hardly campaigned in WI or MI... meanwhile she campaigned a ton in NC and the margin of her vote total there is only about 1-2% more than in GA.....You have to wonder how different the result would have been without a campaign...or the debates? They are obviously worse than useless...One can also blame Comey (as I have).. and the Obamacare hikes coming out two weeks before the election? WHo thoguht that one up?
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Also the first election since the voting rights act was gutted. I think many people also COULDN'T vote. Not to get to conspiracy about it, but I think this will also be a big story (if the press still exists).
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http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/civil-war-laws-prevented-voting/
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http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/civil-war-laws-prevented-voting/
'In 1787 James Madison introduced the Electoral College as an alternative to a popular vote system because, ?Negroes? in the South presented a ?difficulty ? of a serious nature.?'
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senate will flip blue in 2 years, if history holds, so he has 2 years of unfettered power.
33 Senate seats up for grabs.
23 are Democrats (including FL, IN, MO, MI, MN, MT, ND, OH, PA, VA, WI, WV)
2 are Independents who already Caucus with the Dems.
8 are Republicans in AZ, MS, NE, NV, TN, TX, UT and WY.
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senate will flip blue in 2 years, if history holds, so he has 2 years of unfettered power.
33 Senate seats up for grabs.
23 are Democrats (including FL, IN, MO, MI, MN, MT, ND, OH, PA, VA, WI, WV)
2 are Independents who already Caucus with the Dems.
8 are Republicans in AZ, MS, NE, NV, TN, TX, UT and WY.
the Republicans are likely to expand their majority....
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or the hallellujah..
I don't know...this was unexpected and the perfect way to open
Someone obviously tipped you off...so IMO it's not the same experience
if you didn't know and saw that opening, I think your jaw might have been on the floor
between what really happened with the election and Cohen dying and Kate's awesome Hillary the past few seasons and her unbelievable rendition of the song
for a moment I believed it was Hillary picking a perfect song to do a soliloquy too
His monologue was pretty f'n awesome too. Most unique one to date
It was kind of a healing moment for me
(sadly similar to 9.11)
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^ that is my summary of the entire election: ok, you're frustrated, you feel cheated... but: trump??? really?!?
For her, no. But for the majority of the white lower/middle class blue and "light blue" collared workers, yes.
Look, the Democrats lost the labor vote in MI, PA, OH, and WI. How fucking out of touch are we that the Democrats couldn't even carry the union vote? The answer is VERY.
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oh good lord. you "heal" over an SNL skit? sometimes I hate my generation....its like a fuckin' joke.. people feel better because of an SNL skit.. and I'm not singling you out.. looking at Facebook it seems most people feel like that.. like WOW Chappelle was FUNNY! AWESOME now I feel great!
anyways, lets talk seriously.. Trump might well surprise a lot of people in a positive way... the issue for me is that the things he said and has done are a deal breaker.. I wish it weren't so....but I can't go back.
Trump already spoken to Argentine President Macri...they're actually fairly good friends and used to golf regularly.....Macri comes from a wealthy Argentine family so when he visited NYC he'd go golfing with Trump... no sign of any "grudge" on the part of Trump (Argentina was pretty vocal about wanting Hillary to win..)... Macri told him he expects to see him in Argentina for the G20 summit in 2018.. Trump told Macri he hopes Macri can visit the White House next year... Lets look at the facts: the relationship between Argentina and the US for the past 15 years has been pretty bad due to W and then Argentina having the Kirchners... this is the first time since the 1990s that the two countries might actually get along...
Like I said, Trump might actually be fairly decent.. and the fact he has control of everything means that for a change the President will be able to do what he wants which I realize to most people is terrifying but governmental paralysis really couldn't go on any longer....
Some encouraging signs from Trump also on student loans...
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Also the first election since the voting rights act was gutted. I think many people also COULDN'T vote. Not to get to conspiracy about it, but I think this will also be a big story (if the press still exists).
Yes, there is something here, and it needs to be improved, but don't ignore the fact that Hillary wasn't very appealing to the African American community.
One other thing to consider, and I suspect there's a book here if somebody wants to take the time to do the research, but the impact the Black Lives Matter movement had on the election. Given the higher than expected turnout of rural under-educated and under-paid whites, the data is supporting the theory that their movement created a backlash (er, whitelash?) and that backlash voted, but the movement itself stayed home on election day and, possibly, made their situation worse.
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The guy from breitbart. Enough, said. Maybe this, is the repeat of the future past.
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Blair students stage walkout to protest Trump. Head to wheaton plaza food court.
http://www.fox5dc.com/news/217384690-story
I'd like to see an all-girls' school walk out in protest. I can't believe the percentage of women who voted for this guy.
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How fucking out of touch are we that the Democrats couldn't even carry the union vote? The answer is VERY.
I have never been able to wrap my head around Union people who vote Republican
Scott walker was praised as the second coming for 'taking on the unions'
they talk shit about unions all the time
fools to think that Trump is going to bring manufacturing jobs back
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oh good lord. you "heal" over an SNL skit? sometimes I hate my generation....its like a fuckin' joke.. people feel better because of an SNL skit.. and I'm not singling you out.. looking at Facebook it seems most people feel like that.. like WOW Chappelle was FUNNY! AWESOME now I feel great!
dude...take a chill pill. You don't think Music and comedy have healing properties
I did not say that "oh I saw that show and now everything is sunshine and rainbows"
No this is worst case scenario and that was anodyne
didn't make it go away
But to me, it ended that shit week in a way I didn't expect from a place I didn't expect
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How fucking out of touch are we that the Democrats couldn't even carry the union vote? The answer is VERY.
I have never been able to wrap my head around Union people who vote Republican
Scott walker was praised as the second coming for 'taking on the unions'
they talk shit about unions all the time
fools to think that Trump is going to bring manufacturing jobs back
I never understand why people think all union voters should vote democratic.. or all evangelicals should vote Republican .. people are not one issue voters... pretty much the only people that seem to vote one way no matter what are african americans.... the latest one issue voters according to the media seem to be Latinos and they didn't vote for Hillary overwhelmingly enough apparently.. well Latinos don't just vote on immigration...many of us are here legally- ummm like were born here maybe- and don't particularly care for illegals coming in to the country either.. when I hear Trump saying he is going to deport people here illegally who have commited crimes I am not too bothered to be honest... having pro Latino policies should not be equated with being pro illegal immigration..
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One other thing to consider, and I suspect there's a book here if somebody wants to take the time to do the research, but the impact the Black Lives Matter movement had on the election. Given the higher than expected turnout of rural under-educated and under-paid whites, the data is supporting the theory that their movement created a backlash (er, whitelash?) and that backlash voted, but the movement itself stayed home on election day and, possibly, made their situation worse.
So how much of that was because of apathy and how much of it was because the media said it was a done deal for her and there was no use showing up? It's a little late now.
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So how much of that was because of apathy and how much of it was because the media said it was a done deal for her and there was no use showing up? It's a little late now.
The second question is a good one. It definitely had an impact on the states she was already going to win, however, turnout was still high in the swing states she lost. We don't have all the data yet, but the increase in early returns showed that Hispanics were turning out for her, but not necessarily African Americans. Voters long lines and the media all played a part, but not to the tune of 2 million less African Americans than 2012 - an 11% reduction - and she lost 5% of those African Americans that did vote (93% in 2012 compared to 88% in 2016). Those numbers were definitely factors in Detroit, Philadelphia, Milwaukee and Cleveland.
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Trump also called gay marriage settled law.. said he's fine with it...I think that is a good thing..
I think Trump is going to be practical.. its just a shame that the only way he could get elected was to be such a hater prick to appeal to enough pricks....he'll have to continually throw red meat at his base though...I expect...
so many outstanding questions.. like the fact Trump kept targeting his base while Hillary spent so much time trying to target "Republicans".. how many voted for her in the end? 10? She would have been better off energizing her own base...
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Dr, laura . . . as press secretary.
Steve Bannon. Noticing a pattern, here?
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Dr, laura . . . as press secretary.
Steve Bannon. Noticing a pattern, here?
yes I am.. he is rewarding those that worked to get him elected.. standard operating procedure...
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You didn't get what, i, meant.
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You didn't get what, i, meant.
I think I got it.. you're saying they're right wing wackos? Well those are the people that worked to get him elected.. my point stands..
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A nonprofit group?s director and a mayor in a small town in West Virginia have been swept up in a firestorm surrounding comments about Michelle Obama that have been perceived as blatantly racist.
After Donald Trump?s election as president, Pamela Ramsey Taylor, who was director of Clay County Development Corp. in Clay, a tiny town outside Charleston, reportedly posted about the move from Michelle Obama to Melania Trump on Facebook, saying: ?It will be so refreshing to have a classy, beautiful, dignified First Lady back in the White House. I?m tired of seeing a Ape in heels,? according to NBC affiliate WSAZ.
The news station reported that the town?s mayor, Beverly Whaling, then replied, ?Just made my day Pam.?
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However, Taylor told the news station that the public response had become a ?hate crime against me,? explaining that she and her children had received death threats. She said she is planning to file a lawsuit against people who have slandered or libeled her, according to the news station.
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A nonprofit group?s director and a mayor in a small town in West Virginia have been swept up in a firestorm surrounding comments about Michelle Obama that have been perceived as blatantly racist.
After Donald Trump?s election as president, Pamela Ramsey Taylor, who was director of Clay County Development Corp. in Clay, a tiny town outside Charleston, reportedly posted about the move from Michelle Obama to Melania Trump on Facebook, saying: ?It will be so refreshing to have a classy, beautiful, dignified First Lady back in the White House. I?m tired of seeing a Ape in heels,? according to NBC affiliate WSAZ.
The news station reported that the town?s mayor, Beverly Whaling, then replied, ?Just made my day Pam.?
I don't see any "perceived" about it..that is racist plain and simple... sad...
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People who don't understand slander and libel are my favorite people to fuck with.
Yes, sue the news company that reported exactly what you said. Oh, and good luck to you.
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A nonprofit group?s director and a mayor in a small town in West Virginia have been swept up in a firestorm surrounding comments about Michelle Obama that have been perceived as blatantly racist.
After Donald Trump?s election as president, Pamela Ramsey Taylor, who was director of Clay County Development Corp. in Clay, a tiny town outside Charleston, reportedly posted about the move from Michelle Obama to Melania Trump on Facebook, saying: ?It will be so refreshing to have a classy, beautiful, dignified First Lady back in the White House. I?m tired of seeing a Ape in heels,? according to NBC affiliate WSAZ.
The news station reported that the town?s mayor, Beverly Whaling, then replied, ?Just made my day Pam.?
I don't see any "perceived" about it..that is racist plain and simple... sad...
I wish this board had that like comment feature.
I hate the world today.
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wow..maybe I need to rethink some things
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/obama-clinton-campaign-work-231370
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Yes, but also I think alot of people thought she had it in the bag and stayed home. And many women, especially white women, couldn't just be an adult and vote for her. They thought she was a criminal and thought Trump was the lesser of two evils,. They didn't vote for her because she believes in abortion rights. They wanted to break down the system.
These are all reasons I have heard this week why women and men I know voted for Donald Trump. To say they disappoint me is an understatement.
What we need to do know is to let people know what is happening is not normal. And we need to keep this resolve for 4 years, not just when the wounds are fresh.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/opinions/trump-supporters-why-vote/?hpid=hp_rhp-top-table-main_no-name%3Ahomepage%2Fstory
Last week, The Post invited readers to share why they voted for Donald Trump. We?ve received more than 1200 responses. Below are some of their answers. This collection will be updated regularly with more replies.
Why I voted for Trump
Deniz Dolun
22 years old ? Boca Raton, Fla.
My entire family ? five Muslim immigrants from Turkey ? voted for Donald Trump in Florida because of the Democratic Party?s pandering to Islamism. As people who have actually experienced Islamism in its purest form, back in Turkey, we supported the candidate who promised to help us fight that issue, regardless of any of his other policies. For us, the people of the Middle East, this election was just too important to hand over to someone such as Hillary Clinton.
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^There are all kinds of people with all kinds of issues... all kinds of different experiences and reasons for voting one way or another..
I mean do you want a cookie cause a muslim voted for Trump?
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/opinions/trump-supporters-why-vote/?hpid=hp_rhp-top-table-main_no-name%3Ahomepage%2Fstory
Last week, The Post invited readers to share why they voted for Donald Trump. We?ve received more than 1200 responses. Below are some of their answers. This collection will be updated regularly with more replies.
Why I voted for Trump
Deniz Dolun
22 years old ? Boca Raton, Fla.
My entire family ? five Muslim immigrants from Turkey ? voted for Donald Trump in Florida because of the Democratic Party?s pandering to Islamism. As people who have actually experienced Islamism in its purest form, back in Turkey, we supported the candidate who promised to help us fight that issue, regardless of any of his other policies. For us, the people of the Middle East, this election was just too important to hand over to someone such as Hillary Clinton.
n =1 isn't a strong argument...
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/opinions/trump-supporters-why-vote/?hpid=hp_rhp-top-table-main_no-name%3Ahomepage%2Fstory
Last week, The Post invited readers to share why they voted for Donald Trump. We?ve received more than 1200 responses. Below are some of their answers. This collection will be updated regularly with more replies.
Why I voted for Trump
Deniz Dolun
22 years old ? Boca Raton, Fla.
My entire family ? five Muslim immigrants from Turkey ? voted for Donald Trump in Florida because of the Democratic Party?s pandering to Islamism. As people who have actually experienced Islamism in its purest form, back in Turkey, we supported the candidate who promised to help us fight that issue, regardless of any of his other policies. For us, the people of the Middle East, this election was just too important to hand over to someone such as Hillary Clinton.
n =1 isn't a strong argument...
I personally wasn't making an argument for anything, just posting something I found interesting; but if you think these five (not one) are the only Muslims who voted for Trump, you're probably wrong.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/what-muslim-americans-supporting-trump-say-about-their-candidate/
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/opinions/trump-supporters-why-vote/?hpid=hp_rhp-top-table-main_no-name%3Ahomepage%2Fstory
Last week, The Post invited readers to share why they voted for Donald Trump. We?ve received more than 1200 responses. Below are some of their answers. This collection will be updated regularly with more replies.
Why I voted for Trump
Deniz Dolun
22 years old ? Boca Raton, Fla.
My entire family ? five Muslim immigrants from Turkey ? voted for Donald Trump in Florida because of the Democratic Party?s pandering to Islamism. As people who have actually experienced Islamism in its purest form, back in Turkey, we supported the candidate who promised to help us fight that issue, regardless of any of his other policies. For us, the people of the Middle East, this election was just too important to hand over to someone such as Hillary Clinton.
n =1 isn't a strong argument...
I personally wasn't making an argument for anything, just posting something I found interesting; but if you think these five (not one) are the only Muslims who voted for Trump, you're probably wrong.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/what-muslim-americans-supporting-trump-say-about-their-candidate/
oh I just heard a story on NPR about an entire Mosque in New Jersey freaked out and crying about Trump getting elected..
Now give me my cookie.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/opinions/trump-supporters-why-vote/?hpid=hp_rhp-top-table-main_no-name%3Ahomepage%2Fstory
Last week, The Post invited readers to share why they voted for Donald Trump. We?ve received more than 1200 responses. Below are some of their answers. This collection will be updated regularly with more replies.
Why I voted for Trump
Deniz Dolun
22 years old ? Boca Raton, Fla.
My entire family ? five Muslim immigrants from Turkey ? voted for Donald Trump in Florida because of the Democratic Party?s pandering to Islamism. As people who have actually experienced Islamism in its purest form, back in Turkey, we supported the candidate who promised to help us fight that issue, regardless of any of his other policies. For us, the people of the Middle East, this election was just too important to hand over to someone such as Hillary Clinton.
n =1 isn't a strong argument...
I personally wasn't making an argument for anything, just posting something I found interesting; but if you think these five (not one) are the only Muslims who voted for Trump, you're probably wrong.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/what-muslim-americans-supporting-trump-say-about-their-candidate/
oh I just heard a story on NPR about an entire Mosque in New Jersey freaked out and crying about Trump getting elected..
Now give me my cookie.
Are any of their members part of the Muslim Brotherhood?
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/opinions/trump-supporters-why-vote/?hpid=hp_rhp-top-table-main_no-name%3Ahomepage%2Fstory
Last week, The Post invited readers to share why they voted for Donald Trump. We?ve received more than 1200 responses. Below are some of their answers. This collection will be updated regularly with more replies.
Why I voted for Trump
Deniz Dolun
22 years old ? Boca Raton, Fla.
My entire family ? five Muslim immigrants from Turkey ? voted for Donald Trump in Florida because of the Democratic Party?s pandering to Islamism. As people who have actually experienced Islamism in its purest form, back in Turkey, we supported the candidate who promised to help us fight that issue, regardless of any of his other policies. For us, the people of the Middle East, this election was just too important to hand over to someone such as Hillary Clinton.
n =1 isn't a strong argument...
I personally wasn't making an argument for anything, just posting something I found interesting; but if you think these five (not one) are the only Muslims who voted for Trump, you're probably wrong.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/what-muslim-americans-supporting-trump-say-about-their-candidate/
oh I just heard a story on NPR about an entire Mosque in New Jersey freaked out and crying about Trump getting elected..
Now give me my cookie.
Are any of their members part of the Muslim Brotherhood?
Why would you ask that? Just to be a prick cause you gotta make your prick quota?
WHat an asshole.. you're back on the shit list fucker.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/opinions/trump-supporters-why-vote/?hpid=hp_rhp-top-table-main_no-name%3Ahomepage%2Fstory
Last week, The Post invited readers to share why they voted for Donald Trump. We?ve received more than 1200 responses. Below are some of their answers. This collection will be updated regularly with more replies.
Why I voted for Trump
Deniz Dolun
22 years old ? Boca Raton, Fla.
My entire family ? five Muslim immigrants from Turkey ? voted for Donald Trump in Florida because of the Democratic Party?s pandering to Islamism. As people who have actually experienced Islamism in its purest form, back in Turkey, we supported the candidate who promised to help us fight that issue, regardless of any of his other policies. For us, the people of the Middle East, this election was just too important to hand over to someone such as Hillary Clinton.
n =1 isn't a strong argument...
I personally wasn't making an argument for anything, just posting something I found interesting; but if you think these five (not one) are the only Muslims who voted for Trump, you're probably wrong.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/what-muslim-americans-supporting-trump-say-about-their-candidate/
oh I just heard a story on NPR about an entire Mosque in New Jersey freaked out and crying about Trump getting elected..
Now give me my cookie.
Are any of their members part of the Muslim Brotherhood?
Why would you ask that? Just to be a prick cause you gotta make your prick quota?
WHat an asshole.. you're back on the shit list fucker.
I would ask that simply because Trump plans to ban the Muslim Brotherhood, and if the mosque had members that were members of the MB, that would give them reason to cry.
http://www.wnd.com/2016/11/trump-gets-tough-looks-to-ban-muslim-brotherhood/
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^whatever.. you're parsley
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Glenn Beck: The alt-right is truly terrifying
http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/15/politics/glenn-beck-bannon-appointment-white-nationalists-anderson-cooper/index.html
Strange times when Glenn Beck is one of the voices of reason.
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yeah, I saw that on CNN last night......so weird....vice news also had a talk with him before the election and he echoed the same sort of views. pretty weird.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/BM2RwMsj65J/
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https://www.instagram.com/p/BM2RwMsj65J/
The Biden Memes are the best thing to come out of this election. They help me heal, right hutch?
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The Biden Memes are the best thing to come out of this election.
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I, just want to know what it means when somebody calls somebody else, parsley.
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I, just want to know what it means when somebody calls somebody else, parsley.
According to UrbanDictionary:
parsley
An individual who adds to the overall appearance or dynamics of a group but has no interesting qualities on their own. Similar to the herb parsley, which is used in many dishes as a garnish; these individuals "garnish" a group interaction (oftentimes in a party or entourage) but have no flavor or personality by themselves.
Don't feel bad for not knowing. Just from the context clues that it was something Hutch said, and it was clearly intended as an insult, I assumed it meant "is not a friendless asshat like the person using 'parsley' as an insult." I would take it as a badge of honor.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/BM22YL4gQ41/
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and there I was thinking I had come up with something completely original.....
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Remember when liberals were pulling for a Trump nomination? Be careful what you wish for.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/02/why-liberals-should-support-a-trump-nomination.html
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Remember when liberals were pulling for a Trump nomination? Be careful what you wish for.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/02/why-liberals-should-support-a-trump-nomination.html
ha ha.. can you imagine if it had been another candidate? They would have gotten 10 points more!
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Your next user name should be Monday Morning QB cause that is what you are.... you're that guy that just loves to come in and go "SEE I TOLD YOU!".. you kind of remind me of Trump... I don't assume you're eagerly awaiting the next terrorist attack on US soil but I'm pretty sure you'll be on here in 0 seconds flat telling us "YOU SEE!!!!!!!!!"
But I mean I didn't take Trump lightly.. somewhere on this thread I'm pretty sure early on I was pretty bullish about his chances... thing is from the convention on he seemed to go down like a Led Zeppelin..the Republican convention was horrible compared to the D one.. he lost the three debates.. he had the Gold Star family flap.. the Miss Piggy flap .. the "I grab them by the pussy" tape... his spending was vastly dwarfed by Hillary for months...he didn't release his taxes... there were like 13 women that came out accusing him of inappropriate behavior which was exactly like what he himself had described.. I could go on.. it just seemed like one miscue after another... there was no way to anticipate that the American people wouldn't care about any of that combined with Hillary proving to be a far weaker candidate than expected....we woke up one day to the reality that the President and Hillary were campaigning in MIchigan and ending the campaign in Pennsylvania....the confluence of different factors including Comey's actions are hard to really sort out and I don't think we will ever really know with any certitude what happened...Some of the analysis is so simplistic its borderline laughable (ie., blacks are too blame cause they didn't vote in the same numbers as they did for, you know, the black President,,, really? how did she do with the left-handed vote?). I assume the history books will write a pro-Trump (the winner) version ignoring the fact he won with incredibly low favorables and resorting to demagoguery (too hard to explain to the kiddies..doesn't square with "AMERICA") ..its just that at the end I think a certain percentage of the electorate just got Hillary fatigued.. When I saw that guy in Arlington the weekend before the election just standing on a street corner with a "Virginia doesn't vote for corrupt Hillary" I worried something was afoot but of course we had Nate Silver and all our liberal friends telling us there was no way she could lose.. group non-think....by that point it was too late anyways...
At this point I'm ready for a kick ass presidency.. Why not? Let us hope for the best... I think the damage is done to the idea of "America" and to our standing in the world.. but it is what it is.. I'm hoping the economy booms.. jobs are created by the tens of millions... we kick some terrorist ass somewhere (no war)...etc etc... Every new president starts with a certain goodwill and desire to believe it will go OK.. a "honeymoon".. some of the things I have heard from Trump I have liked... Like I said before I can never really be down with Trump cause of things he's done but I can hope things go really well.....And honestly I find the democratic party at this point a big turn off... Elizabeth Warren does zero for me.. same with Bernie who seems to be doing a "Let me tell you all the obvious (ie., the D party needs to stand with the people! No shit!) and I could have won and you know I could have won (I am not sure and you certainly didn't help H win of that there is no doubt)"...... I understand H lost but to me the idea that because she lost we need to swing massively to the left is a recipe for disaster..... Unlike many I actually thought H would be a great president and wanted her to be president.... I'm not going to get excited about Elizabeth Warren..sorry.. she gives horrible speeches and is frankly annoying to listen to.. Trump would eat her for breakfast and still be hungry for some Bernie..
at least that is the way I see it... at the moment
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Because Trump will have control to do SOMETHING.. it could be bad but at least he can do something.. with Hillary the way things were going towards the end she would not have had control... and the Republicans had already made it clear they would not work with her...maybe this also swayed some voters.. who knows...
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You know I dislike Hutch on a personal level but I must pay respect where it's due: if you look at the early pages in this thread, he argues Trump as a legitimate threat and the board-erati (myself, ggw, smackie et al) basically dismiss it out of hand. I have to eat a lot of crow on that, personally. It's crow that's hard to shovel down the gullet. But the dude did sort of, tangentially, call this. And some respect is due for that.
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well.. thanks.. I guess....
The truth is that when Trump was kicking ass in the republican primaries some people on the left celebrated but not because they thought he would be easy in the general but because he was destroying the Republican party and establishment which we loathed.. he was grabbing two by fours and kneecapping the Bushes (can you believe what he said about 9-11??? I"ve been saying that for more than a decade!), Rubio (who I loathe), Cruz...guys like Walker didn't last two weeks!.. I mean that was some serious FUN to watch... it felt great.. and one could not deny that... one could not fail to enjoy it because of what might happen way off in the distance during the general...
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Yeah, I meant my tepid endorsement of your predictions in the least rude way possible: egg on my all face all day. All day for the next four years.
Respectful head nod to you for whatever it's worth. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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I'll write a piece about voting for McCain in 08 out of protest over obama getting the nom over Hillary but it's too raw. Too raw. It's hard for me type it. God damn.
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Yeah, I meant my tepid endorsement of your predictions in the least rude way possible: egg on my all face all day. All day for the next four years.
Respectful head nod to you for whatever it's worth. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
well I just don't feel deserving is all I"m saying.. anyways thanks.
this could be interesting
http://theweek.com/speedreads/662053/week-after-election-democrats-appear-verge-key-house-upset
I can only hope but Issa going down would be nice....
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This. Finally. I had this conversation with a bunch of well-to-do people at a dinner party on Saturday night. But this article doesn't go far enough. It's not just the misinformation - the truth about the separating coasts from the middle of America is also causing a ton of distress. And it's amplified by braggadocios nature of Facebook, of which I admit, I am fully guilty.
Social Media's Global Shaking Power (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/17/technology/social-medias-globe-shaking-power.html)
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the latest one issue voters according to the media seem to be Latinos and they didn't vote for Hillary overwhelmingly enough apparently.. well Latinos don't just vote on immigration...many of us are here legally- ummm like were born here maybe- and don't particularly care for illegals coming in to the country either.. when I hear Trump saying he is going to deport people here illegally who have commited crimes I am not too bothered to be honest... having pro Latino policies should not be equated with being pro illegal immigration..
?We?re Looking at a New Divide Within the Hispanic Community? (http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/11/20/magazine/donald-trumps-america-florida-latino-vote.html?_r=0)
Nearly one in three Latino voters in Florida cast their ballots for Trump. According to a CNN and Latino Decisions exit poll, his support among Cuban-American voters was even higher: 54 percent. ?Definitely there was a hidden, secret Latino vote,? Jorge Ramos, the Univision news anchor, told me. ?We?re seeing a new divide within the Hispanic community. The wall that Trump was talking about is clearly apparent now within the Hispanic community.?
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Rural white voters, he explained, aren?t the only ones frightened by the specter of feminism, Muslim immigrants and L.G.B.T. rights. ?For many Hispanic Americans, the cultural changes of the past 15 years have been very hard. Trump, for many, is a return to the mother?s womb.?
And so much more on immigration and Cuba....
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As if it couldn't get worse for Jules.....
The only group that Trump did better than Romney in that wasn't non-college educated whites (41%), was in counties where the prevalence of obesity, diabetes, heavy drinking and lack of regular physical activity (43%). They do overlap a lot, but even controlling for race, education, age, sex, income, marital status, immigration and employment, Trump improved greatly among the obese over Romney.
ECONOMIST: if diabetes were just 7% less prevalent in Michigan, Mr Trump would have gained 0.3 fewer percentage points there, enough to swing the state back to the Democrats. (http://www.economist.com/news/united-states/21710265-local-health-outcomes-predict-trumpward-swings-illness-indicator)
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It can get worse.. Sen. Sessions for Atty General... this is a bad guy... Pompeo for CIA..Flynn for Nat Sec Advisor... these are all unsurprising appointments but still bad and sad...
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this is among the scariest things i have ever seen... give it at least 2 minutes:
Trump Rally Footage Set to Pink Floyd "In the Flesh"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGgd3Tew_WY
well done. now i'm going to have nightmares.
somewhat similar (but i can't imagine anyone sitting through it)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5qpfNfv8Qw
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^gee man doesn't sound like something I want to watch...
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Watched, the in the flesh one . . . God, it was beautiful! The power of Trump, can really hypnotize you. I, can see that now.
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Anybody have relatives who voted for Trump and if so how are you handling it?
This summer I was at the in-laws and there was a new story about Trump kid killing animals for fun and my father in law shouted at the TV "So, Hillary wants to kill babies."
Sure enough, he voted Trump. "I don't really like Trump, but I had to vote against Hillary." My mother in law voted Trump "because I like his economic package better." (My in-laws are economically comfortable, they're not coal miners for Christ sake.
I'm thinking no visits to them until Trump is out of office.
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He just or Trump Organization (whatever that means) agreed to pay out $25 million to settle Trump U fraud lawsuit
Its hard to root for the guy or not get depressed...
Everyone in my family voted Hillary although part of me wonders if my dad didn't but says he does.. he seemed awfully cheery on the phone last week....."oh well! what matters is you're doing well!"
Listen, Trump, embarassing or not, is our President and that is just the way it is.. lets hope he gets his shit together, gets lucky, and stays out of the way....and has the sense to resist all the pressure he will get to get involved in foreign conflicts...
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I know shit is bad when I'm feeling relieved that Mitt Romney might actually join the Trump administration.
Like, he's awful but compared to the crime scene currently underway, he's at least not a complete slobbering idiot.
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Kanye West didn't vote, but would have gone Trump -- and thinks people should stop focusing on racism.
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Goodbye, legal pot . . . Hello, Jeff Sessions.
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Goodbye, legal pot . . . Hello, Jeff Sessions.
of all the things Sessions will do this is the least of my concerns....not to mention I think it is largely a state issue....
I hate Sessions but he bet big and early on Trump so this is not a surprise....I think he was the first Republican sitting politician to endorse Trump
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NAZI rally in DC SAturday.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/protests-expected-as-white-nationalists-meet-in-dc-saturday-and-celebrate-trump-win/2016/11/18/2b495d02-adaa-11e6-977a-1030f822fc35_story.html
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wow....how surreal.......
I say let them celebrate..
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On May 3, 2013, the Palmetto Playground in Brooklyn, New York was renamed to Adam Yauch Park in memory of the Beastie Boy, who died in 2012. Today, the park was defaced with swastikas and graffiti that read ?Go Trump,? Billboard reports. Find an image below. Yauch, like the rest of his bandmates, was Jewish. There has been a spike in hate crimes and racially-charged attacks around the country since Donald Trump was elected president.
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How sad....
Now that is not celebrating.. that is breaking the law...
I guess at least Yauch is glad not to be around for "President" Trump...
miss him.
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The people who are boycotting Hamilton would never actually see it so I don't really get the purpose of the boycott.
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It really takes the word chutzpah to a whole new level.. Trump, the guy who did not apologize once despite insulting John McCain's service, the disabled, women, Latinos, muslims, people with small hands, a goldstar mom, a Miss Universe for her looks, you name it....now demands an apology because the cast of a NYC musical said there was no reason to boo his VP but they hoped the VP would uphold core American values as embodied in the play he was attending?
I read someone said that this was an attempt to distract from the Trump U settlement but I'm skeptical because nobody cares about any of the issues surrounding Trump and since he is the new president it is the "job" of the establishment and the media to give him the legitimacy he so poorly earned...
I'm supporting him and hoping for millions of great jobs, end of ISIS wthout war, huge infrastructure plan to rebuild our nation, way lower taxes, economic boom, end to inner city problems, you name it.. but based on some of the post election shenannigans he is pulling and the people he is surrounding himself, so far, on national security I have to say I am rather skeptical...
I read an interesting article on why the dollar has strengthened and the thinking about reflation as part of a Trump admin.. I have to admit I was not familiar with the term reflation....I do hope we do not have inflation - which the article I read said is completely different- but I have always worried that a scam artist like Trump would try to get out of honoring our debts at face value...
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The people who are boycotting Hamilton would never actually see it so I don't really get the purpose of the boycott.
This.
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That's, because they can't get, tickets
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http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/11/19/white-nationalists-and-nazi-saluting-tila-tequila-toast-emperor-trump-in-washington-dc.html
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=400346977022164&set=p.400346977022164&type=3&theater
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http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/11/19/white-nationalists-and-nazi-saluting-tila-tequila-toast-emperor-trump-in-washington-dc.html
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=400346977022164&set=p.400346977022164&type=3&theater
What the fuck timeline have we all ended up in
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You're hired!
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Hey, moron
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Is that you?
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um, what?
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good lord.. how sad
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/307069-potential-trump-cabinet-pick-accidentally-reveals-homeland-security-plans-in
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Shemp, and grits, love the name by the way . . . is fucking hot, in that photo.
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I got to say the signs are not looking good for us as far as President Trump... He's just doing a lot of stupid shit now...
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I got to say the signs are not looking good for us as far as President Trump... He's just doing a lot of stupid shit now...
You must have been at this meeting.
http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/donald-trump-personally-blasts-the-press
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(https://img.washingtonpost.com/news/local/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/11/seigheiltweet.jpg)
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(https://img.washingtonpost.com/news/local/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/11/seigheiltweet.jpg)
Inside, former reality TV star Tila Tequila ? who claims she is Hitler reincarnated ? joined two men in the movement in a sieg heil salute posted to Twitter.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/lets-party-like-its-1933-inside-the-disturbing-alt-right-world-of-richard-spencer/2016/11/22/cf81dc74-aff7-11e6-840f-e3ebab6bcdd3_story.html?hpid=hp_rhp-top-table-main_spencer-1120a%3Ahomepage%2Fstory
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(https://pics.onsizzle.com/alt-neo-right-nazi-so-what-did-we-learn-today-6763670.png)
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I wonder what % of Trump's esteem for Jared Kushner comes from the fact that he has sex with Ivanka on the reg
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I wonder what % of Trump's esteem for Jared Kushner comes from the fact that he has sex with Ivanka on the reg
About the same as your esteem for Jared Kushner?
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That was the dumbest attempt at a burn I've seen in six weeks.
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NO YOU ARE
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Inside, former reality TV star Tila Tequila ? who claims she is Hitler reincarnated ? joined two men in the movement in a sieg heil salute posted to Twitter.
Twitter suspends Tila Tequila Account (https://www.engadget.com/2016/11/22/twitter-suspends-tila-tequila/)
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So, our Republican Governor in Md (who wrote in his dad's name for president) is telling us to 'take a deep breath' (http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/politics/bs-md-hogan-trump-election-20161121-story.html)
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I'm not sure if this is a beer thread post, a random thread post, or a Trump thread post, but I'll put it here.
So I stopped by P Street Whole Foods yesterday for a $5 flight (cheapest beer buzz in town if you pick the high ABV beers, just sayin').
So I'm enjoying my flight when this 75+ woman sits down next to me. She's got long white hair, I'm guessing she's some kind of aging hippie. She looks at my flight and asks "What is that you're drinking?" I tell her it's called a 'beer flight.' She looks amazed. "Well I've never heard of that before, wow. Do they do that at all the bars?" I told her I didn't really know, that I thought it was pretty common at beer establishments. "Do they do it across the street at Stoney's?" I told her I wasn't familiar with Stoney's.
She starts talking with this other woman about playing some game called ?Trivia? on her cell phone. She turns to me and asks ?Do you play Trivia?? I reply, ?Oh, I don?t have a cell phone.?
She looks at me with a mix of dismay and disbelief. ?You don?t have a cell phone? Everybody has a cell phone. Why don?t you have a cell phone??
?Oh, I guess I mean I don?t have a modern cellphone. I have on old timey one for emergencies. I don't do other stuff on it?
?Oh, you have a flip phone? Well you?ll get a cell phone, eventually. Then you?ll be able to play Trivia on it!?
I reply, ?Oh, my wife has an iphone. She plays all kinds of games on it.?
She answers, ?Oh, it?s not a game, it?s Trivia!?
Then she asks, "So do you like the Trump win?" And I reply with a somber "No."
And she launches into an monologue...."WHAT? You'd be ok with a woman President? I think that would be terrible! A woman can't be President. ISIS isn't going to be afraid of a woman. Those Moslems want to come here and take over. They want to make all the women wear veils." Turning to the woman next to her, "Do you want to be forced to wear a veil?"
At that point I checked myself out of the conversation, resisting the urge to try to engage her in thoughtful debate.
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Has anybody else's sex life picked up measurably since Trump's election? I noticed a similar bump right after 9/11 that lasted years (ok, the fact that I met my wife three months before 9/11 probably had something to do with it).
I know it's a small sample size of time, but you gotta find the silver lining somewhere. Or make your own silver lining.
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this could be interesting
http://theweek.com/speedreads/662053/week-after-election-democrats-appear-verge-key-house-upset
I can only hope but Issa going down would be nice....
I can't stand Issa...but he's still got a 3K lead...may not know until 12/8
http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/elections/sd-me-results-update-20161123-story.html
odd how just about the only info I could find was on Newsmax and breitbart?
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this could be interesting
http://theweek.com/speedreads/662053/week-after-election-democrats-appear-verge-key-house-upset
I can only hope but Issa going down would be nice....
I can't stand Issa...but he's still got a 3K lead...may not know until 12/8
http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/elections/sd-me-results-update-20161123-story.html
odd how just about the only info I could find was on Newsmax and breitbart?
based on latest info looks like Issa will be reelected...
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Anybody have relatives who voted for Trump and if so how are you handling it?
I'm thinking no visits to them until Trump is out of office.
I was most thankful this Thanksgiving to not be spending it with my Trump supporting inlaws
don't think I can avoid them for 4 years ...
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Ms. McFarland, who will not require Senate confirmation, worked for the Nixon, Ford and Reagan administrations. From 1970 to 1976, she was an adviser to Henry A. Kissinger on the National Security Council. She also ran unsuccessfully in a 2006 Republican Senate primary race for the seat held by Hillary Clinton.
picking the outsiders I see
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I actually had this same exact thought earlier today.
https://twitter.com/SamHarrisOrg/status/802193249641185280?t=1&cn=ZmxleGlibGVfcmVjcw%3D%3D&refsrc=email&iid=8cda38cdd2884f4e9308a2a7dfebbcb1&uid=2561659182&nid=244+272699409
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Anybody have relatives who voted for Trump and if so how are you handling it?
I'm thinking no visits to them until Trump is out of office.
I was most thankful this Thanksgiving to not be spending it with my Trump supporting inlaws
don't think I can avoid them for 4 years ...
My parents, who I am visiting for Thanksgiving at the beach, voted for Trump. You know what, I couldn't give a s***. Life's too short, to give a s***. I love my parents and they raised me right, which is why I don't give a s*** about who the f*** they voted for. Give me, a f****** break.
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I have never been happier or prouder to be an American than I have been ever since the election. Thank you America for doing the right thing for the country!
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I have never been happier or prouder to be an American than I have been ever since the election. Thank you America for doing the right thing for the country!
Go fuck yourself.
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I have never been happier or prouder to be an American than I have been ever since the election. Thank you America for doing the right thing for the country!
Go fuck yourself.
Someone needs to change her tampon
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I have never been happier or prouder to be an American than I have been ever since the election. Thank you America for doing the right thing for the country!
Go fuck yourself.
Someone needs to change her tampon
Go fuck yourself.
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I'm still really agitated.. and I find people drawing all the wrong conclusions..everyone feels they know that ONE REASON TRUMP WON... and it usually leads into how horrible the Hillary campaign was... and how great Trump was.. it is particularly annoying to hear democrats who should know better parroting these inanities...
but I realize the history books are always written by the winner.. however, I was around when it happened and the Trump campaign was a shit-show.. he could not have done more crazy imbalanced shit... he lost all three debates clearly.. Hillary's campaign in contrast was measured.. they did the things winning campaigns do.. Of course they made some mistakes but this retroactive rewriting largely by people who did not closely follow the election or "journalists" seeking to bolster their bonafides after having been entirely wrong during the electoral process.. well it really ticks me off..
At some point one has to say the reason is that the American people voted for Trump... and we can't let them off the hook with a political maxim of the "The American people never make a mistake" or some such... the American people messed up big time and that happens.. of course the press isn't going to point that unpleasant reality.. or that Hillary was correct in that at least half of Trump supporters are deplorables... I don't expect the media or history books to cover that...
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Comment, of the year
Go fuck yourself.
I feel it, will catch on.
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Comment, of the year
Go fuck yourself.
I feel it, will catch on.
Nothing RatBastard says deserves any level of discourse higher than "Go fuck yourself." He's an inane, racist, homophobic, hateful piece of shit. I am openly disgusted at your being friends with him in all honesty.
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Comment, of the year
Go fuck yourself.
I feel it, will catch on.
Nothing RatBastard says deserves any level of discourse higher than "Go fuck yourself." He's an inane, racist, homophobic, hateful piece of shit. I am openly disgusted at your being friends with him in all honesty.
we spoke on here, without me passing judgement, on another human being. jesus approves of such actions. who said, we were friends? you, not your . . . if we are going to be, open.
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Rosie, points out that Baron exhibits classic signs of autism. Twitter, loses it mind. She thinks, it'll bring a needed awareness to the disorder. Twitter, still loses his mind.
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Comment, of the year
Go fuck yourself.
I feel it, will catch on.
Nothing RatBastard says deserves any level of discourse higher than "Go fuck yourself." He's an inane, racist, homophobic, hateful piece of shit. I am openly disgusted at your being friends with him in all honesty.
I have no issue with anyone at all based on race. I am not afraid of gay people. I do not hate anyone. You on the other hand continue to prove you lack of values every time you post. Thanks for playing.
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I surely do not consider Walkie to be an enemy. He is one of the most honest upfront non-ego people on the forums. Do we agree on every topic that comes along, of course not. I respect that he has some views that are different than mine. and I believe that he has that same thought. Does that mean that we need to dislike each other, not at all.
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I surely do not consider Walkie to be an enemy. He is one of the most honest upfront non-ego people on the forums. Do we agree on every topic that comes along, of course not. I respect that he has some views that are different than mine. and I believe that he has that same thought. Does that mean that we need to dislike each other, not at all.
well some people would say there is such a thing as core values.. what if you believed like Mike Pence in conversion therapy for gay people... would you just have an amicable disagreement with walkie on it? I doubt it.... some things are beyond being simple issue disagreements....for example if you thought Trump making fun of the handicapped was cool or meant nothing.. well that would be really offputting for me and I dobut I could buy you a drink.. more than likely if we shared a drink I'd have to deck you cause otherwise I, you know having some special needs children and a sister suffering MS, would have to deck you.... you understand I'm sure..
people can disagree on policy.. like tax rates for the poor or wealthy.. but one can't disagree on core values.. at least that is the way I see it... this is where I think Trump supporters miss the big picture.. Trump becoming president is not like Obama becoming president.. Obama did not disrespect core values... Trump does.. all the time. he just tweeted there were millions of people who voted illegally for Hillary.. questioning our democratic system even when he is the prime beneficiary of it.. that is kind of low frankly.
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Comment, of the year
Go fuck yourself.
I feel it, will catch on.
Nothing RatBastard says deserves any level of discourse higher than "Go fuck yourself." He's an inane, racist, homophobic, hateful piece of shit. I am openly disgusted at your being friends with him in all honesty.
I have no issue with anyone at all based on race. I am not afraid of gay people. I do not hate anyone. You on the other hand continue to prove you lack of values every time you post. Thanks for playing.
Go fuck yourself.
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I surely do not consider Walkie to be an enemy. He is one of the most honest upfront non-ego people on the forums. Do we agree on every topic that comes along, of course not. I respect that he has some views that are different than mine. and I believe that he has that same thought. Does that mean that we need to dislike each other, not at all.
well some people would say there is such a thing as core values.. what if you believed like Mike Pence in conversion therapy for gay people... would you just have an amicable disagreement with walkie on it? I doubt it.... some things are beyond being simple issue disagreements....for example if you thought Trump making fun of the handicapped was cool or meant nothing.. well that would be really offputting for me and I dobut I could buy you a drink.. more than likely if we shared a drink I'd have to deck you cause otherwise I, you know having some special needs children and a sister suffering MS, would have to deck you.... you understand I'm sure..
people can disagree on policy.. like tax rates for the poor or wealthy.. but one can't disagree on core values.. at least that is the way I see it... this is where I think Trump supporters miss the big picture.. Trump becoming president is not like Obama becoming president.. Obama did not disrespect core values... Trump does.. all the time. he just tweeted there were millions of people who voted illegally for Hillary.. questioning our democratic system even when he is the prime beneficiary of it.. that is kind of low frankly.
Cool story bro I agree with your comments on Trump's lack of values.
No offense but I've seen you in person and I can't imagine you decking anybody. Hitting them with your NPR tote bag, maybe. Decking them, I think not.
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I surely do not consider Walkie to be an enemy. He is one of the most honest upfront non-ego people on the forums. Do we agree on every topic that comes along, of course not. I respect that he has some views that are different than mine. and I believe that he has that same thought. Does that mean that we need to dislike each other, not at all.
well some people would say there is such a thing as core values.. what if you believed like Mike Pence in conversion therapy for gay people... would you just have an amicable disagreement with walkie on it? I doubt it.... some things are beyond being simple issue disagreements....for example if you thought Trump making fun of the handicapped was cool or meant nothing.. well that would be really offputting for me and I dobut I could buy you a drink.. more than likely if we shared a drink I'd have to deck you cause otherwise I, you know having some special needs children and a sister suffering MS, would have to deck you.... you understand I'm sure..
people can disagree on policy.. like tax rates for the poor or wealthy.. but one can't disagree on core values.. at least that is the way I see it... this is where I think Trump supporters miss the big picture.. Trump becoming president is not like Obama becoming president.. Obama did not disrespect core values... Trump does.. all the time. he just tweeted there were millions of people who voted illegally for Hillary.. questioning our democratic system even when he is the prime beneficiary of it.. that is kind of low frankly.
Cool story bro I agree with your comments on Trump's lack of values.
No offense but I've seen you in person and I can't imagine you decking anybody. Hitting them with your NPR tote bag, maybe. Decking them, I think not.
Dude I don't have an NPR tote bag so you must have mistaken me for somebody else?
But when I get angry watch out... I lose it.. but feel free to test out your theory....and lets see what happens!
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oh and yeah you must have mistaken me for somebody else cause I'm the least "bro" guy you will ever meet...
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Comment, of the year
Go fuck yourself.
I feel it, will catch on.
Nothing RatBastard says deserves any level of discourse higher than "Go fuck yourself." He's an inane, racist, homophobic, hateful piece of shit. I am openly disgusted at your being friends with him in all honesty.
I have no issue with anyone at all based on race. I am not afraid of gay people. I do not hate anyone. You on the other hand continue to prove you lack of values every time you post. Thanks for playing.
Go fuck yourself.
Post, of the month. Gurl. Love you, julian. Kiss, kiss.
I think the most overlooked point of this entire new debate, is where the f*** did rat bastard come from? Like, what is it been like two years or something since you posted?
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Comment, of the year
Go fuck yourself.
I feel it, will catch on.
Nothing RatBastard says deserves any level of discourse higher than "Go fuck yourself." He's an inane, racist, homophobic, hateful piece of shit. I am openly disgusted at your being friends with him in all honesty.
I have no issue with anyone at all based on race. I am not afraid of gay people. I do not hate anyone. You on the other hand continue to prove you lack of values every time you post. Thanks for playing.
Go fuck yourself.
Post, of the month. Gurl. Love you, julian. Kiss, kiss.
I think the most overlooked point of this entire new debate, is where the f*** did rat bastard come from? Like, what is it been like two years or something since you posted?
Ima gonna guess he's been woopin in up with Bannon.
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Comment, of the year
Go fuck yourself.
I feel it, will catch on.
Nothing RatBastard says deserves any level of discourse higher than "Go fuck yourself." He's an inane, racist, homophobic, hateful piece of shit. I am openly disgusted at your being friends with him in all honesty.
I have no issue with anyone at all based on race. I am not afraid of gay people. I do not hate anyone. You on the other hand continue to prove you lack of values every time you post. Thanks for playing.
Go fuck yourself.
Says all we need to know about you.
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Comment, of the year
Go fuck yourself.
I feel it, will catch on.
Nothing RatBastard says deserves any level of discourse higher than "Go fuck yourself." He's an inane, racist, homophobic, hateful piece of shit. I am openly disgusted at your being friends with him in all honesty.
I have no issue with anyone at all based on race. I am not afraid of gay people. I do not hate anyone. You on the other hand continue to prove you lack of values every time you post. Thanks for playing.
Go fuck yourself.
Post, of the month. Gurl. Love you, julian. Kiss, kiss.
I think the most overlooked point of this entire new debate, is where the f*** did rat bastard come from? Like, what is it been like two years or something since you posted?
Been lurking and waiting for the opportune moment. Pointing out how foolish our resident megalomaniac is seemed opportune.
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I surely do not consider Walkie to be an enemy. He is one of the most honest upfront non-ego people on the forums. Do we agree on every topic that comes along, of course not. I respect that he has some views that are different than mine. and I believe that he has that same thought. Does that mean that we need to dislike each other, not at all.
well some people would say there is such a thing as core values.. what if you believed like Mike Pence in conversion therapy for gay people... would you just have an amicable disagreement with walkie on it? I doubt it.... some things are beyond being simple issue disagreements....for example if you thought Trump making fun of the handicapped was cool or meant nothing.. well that would be really offputting for me and I dobut I could buy you a drink.. more than likely if we shared a drink I'd have to deck you cause otherwise I, you know having some special needs children and a sister suffering MS, would have to deck you.... you understand I'm sure..
people can disagree on policy.. like tax rates for the poor or wealthy.. but one can't disagree on core values.. at least that is the way I see it... this is where I think Trump supporters miss the big picture.. Trump becoming president is not like Obama becoming president.. Obama did not disrespect core values... Trump does.. all the time. he just tweeted there were millions of people who voted illegally for Hillary.. questioning our democratic system even when he is the prime beneficiary of it.. that is kind of low frankly.
First I appreciate the well thought out response. Quite refreshing as opposed to the mindless drivel from the childish members of the forum! I concur that we all have core values. You are right you could not buy me a drink. Been clean and sober over 30 years but I understand the point being made. However I do not understand your need to express your views with anger and rage. I've never been into that.
I respectfully disagree with you about Bammy. He has done all in his power to divide the country and in my opinion it was all based on his lack of core values.
Trump won DESPITE HRCs illegal voters. Of course he is going to pint it out.
All that aside I hope that science/medicine comes up with a treatment/cure for MS in time to be beneficial to your sister. I have several members of my family suffering from various terminal conditions as well. I know how taxing it can be physically, spiritually, and emotionally.
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I respectfully disagree with you about Bammy. He has done all in his power to divide the country and in my opinion it was all based on his lack of core values.
that is just bullshit
that comment only sounds cogent in a vacuum of reality
He cares...hard, about all Americans, plan and simple
If anything he's called the idiots and the hypocrites on their shit and for that he's labeled a divider
I think his core values are my core values...so I can't fault him with that
Trump really cares about the common man?
He has spent HIS ENTIRE LIFE in the pursuit of a goal... to separate himself from any resemblance of the common man and make sure that everyone who even hears his name knows it.
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Trump really cares about the common man?
He has spent HIS ENTIRE LIFE in the pursuit of a goal... to separate himself from any resemblance of the common man and make sure that everyone who even hears his name knows it.
Hey! That is pretty good man!
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Mnuchin.. another outsider.. former Goldman Sachs exec.. dad was Goldman Sachs exec for 40 years... made money foreclosing on people... definitely identifies with the common man and will work hard for them...
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Excellent article here..."Real America" is not anti-elite, they're anti-intellectual.
http://www.salon.com/2016/11/20/real-americans-vs-coastal-elites-what-right-wing-sneers-at-city-dwellers-really-mean/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=socialflow
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I surely do not consider Walkie to be an enemy. He is one of the most honest upfront non-ego people on the forums. Do we agree on every topic that comes along, of course not. I respect that he has some views that are different than mine. and I believe that he has that same thought. Does that mean that we need to dislike each other, not at all.
well some people would say there is such a thing as core values.. what if you believed like Mike Pence in conversion therapy for gay people... would you just have an amicable disagreement with walkie on it? I doubt it.... some things are beyond being simple issue disagreements....for example if you thought Trump making fun of the handicapped was cool or meant nothing.. well that would be really offputting for me and I dobut I could buy you a drink.. more than likely if we shared a drink I'd have to deck you cause otherwise I, you know having some special needs children and a sister suffering MS, would have to deck you.... you understand I'm sure..
people can disagree on policy.. like tax rates for the poor or wealthy.. but one can't disagree on core values.. at least that is the way I see it... this is where I think Trump supporters miss the big picture.. Trump becoming president is not like Obama becoming president.. Obama did not disrespect core values... Trump does.. all the time. he just tweeted there were millions of people who voted illegally for Hillary.. questioning our democratic system even when he is the prime beneficiary of it.. that is kind of low frankly.
First I appreciate the well thought out response. Quite refreshing as opposed to the mindless drivel from the childish members of the forum! I concur that we all have core values. You are right you could not buy me a drink. Been clean and sober over 30 years but I understand the point being made. However I do not understand your need to express your views with anger and rage. I've never been into that.
I respectfully disagree with you about Bammy. He has done all in his power to divide the country and in my opinion it was all based on his lack of core values.
Trump won DESPITE HRCs illegal voters. Of course he is going to pint it out.
All that aside I hope that science/medicine comes up with a treatment/cure for MS in time to be beneficial to your sister. I have several members of my family suffering from various terminal conditions as well. I know how taxing it can be physically, spiritually, and emotionally.
Go fuck yourself.
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Guys, trying to argue rationally with renowned retard ratbastard is silly. There will be no logic, intelligence, rationality, honesty, or reason, and he will adopt his tee-hee, clueless "Oh I am so above all you children" attitude, chiding us for insulting him while hurling his own all over the place like feces.
I mean, ultimately he is standing up for a man who is a compulsive liar, multi-level crook, raging hypocrite, whiny crybaby, complete misogynist, and the most dim-witted ignorant person to have ever even run for office.
"Get the government off our backs. AND WHERE'S MY CHECK"
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Trevor Noah's first segment last night did a great job at explaining how Trump communicates, and how we should respond.
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Guys, trying to argue rationally with renowned retard ratbastard is silly. There will be no logic, intelligence, rationality, honesty, or reason, and he will adopt his tee-hee, clueless "Oh I am so above all you children" attitude, chiding us for insulting him while hurling his own all over the place like feces.
I mean, ultimately he is standing up for a man who is a compulsive liar, multi-level crook, raging hypocrite, whiny crybaby, complete misogynist, and the most dim-witted ignorant person to have ever even run for office.
"Get the government off our backs. AND WHERE'S MY CHECK"
Exactly. He is also a person who has called women c**ts and disparaged African-Americans and foreigners repeatedly over the years. No one needs to make an argument why hes utter shit, click on his previous 2800+ posts and see for yourself. Responding to RatBastard in any form other than telling him to go fuck himself or ask how his clan rally is going is an utter waste of time. And to be honest, that probably is as well.
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Guys, trying to argue rationally with renowned retard ratbastard is silly. There will be no logic, intelligence, rationality, honesty, or reason, and he will adopt his tee-hee, clueless "Oh I am so above all you children" attitude, chiding us for insulting him while hurling his own all over the place like feces.
I mean, ultimately he is standing up for a man who is a compulsive liar, multi-level crook, raging hypocrite, whiny crybaby, complete misogynist, and the most dim-witted ignorant person to have ever even run for office.
"Get the government off our backs. AND WHERE'S MY CHECK"
Quite the contrary. I am one of only two here who have been using logic and reason.
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Guys, trying to argue rationally with renowned retard ratbastard is silly. There will be no logic, intelligence, rationality, honesty, or reason, and he will adopt his tee-hee, clueless "Oh I am so above all you children" attitude, chiding us for insulting him while hurling his own all over the place like feces.
I mean, ultimately he is standing up for a man who is a compulsive liar, multi-level crook, raging hypocrite, whiny crybaby, complete misogynist, and the most dim-witted ignorant person to have ever even run for office.
"Get the government off our backs. AND WHERE'S MY CHECK"
Quite the contrary. I am one of only two here who have been using logic and reason.
How's the clan rally going?
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Lets face it we need some Trump supporters around here... I welcome RatBastard's return even if he is hell bent on messing up my emerging Futbol/Soccer thoughts thread...
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Lets face it we need some Trump supporters around here... I welcome RatBastard's return even if he is hell bent on messing up my emerging Futbol/Soccer thoughts thread...
I don't know. I frequent at least one other internet forum as well as get Facebook conversations from my Trump-supporting sister-in-law and her Trump-supporting friends. And the one thing I notice is that the Trump supporters just aren't a very bright lot. I'm not saying there aren't smart conservatives-because there are-GGW, for example, is a super-smart guy... I'm just saying I haven't come across a super-smart Trump supporter...and I don't think Ratbastard is going to fit the bill. What I'd like on here is a super-smart Trump supporter who is really going to challenge us left leaners...and that's not Ratbastard. I hope he proves me wrong.
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I have opinions . . . but I don't, share them.
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^^ That's smart ^^
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^^ That's smart ^^
Blargh damn new page.
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I hope he proves me wrong.
He used the word c**t 3 times in a single sentence in his last post despite the moderators warning him publicly against it multiple times in the past. Pretty sure our Sexist, Racist Xenophobe in Residence isn't proving you wrong anytime soon.
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Trump may have to close his new DC hotel due to conflict of interest
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/11/29/503740464/law-professor-trump-cant-hold-lease-on-his-hotel-near-white-house
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Lets face it we need some Trump supporters around here... I welcome RatBastard's return even if he is hell bent on messing up my emerging Futbol/Soccer thoughts thread...
I don't know. I frequent at least one other internet forum as well as get Facebook conversations from my Trump-supporting sister-in-law and her Trump-supporting friends. And the one thing I notice is that the Trump supporters just aren't a very bright lot. I'm not saying there aren't smart conservatives-because there are-GGW, for example, is a super-smart guy... I'm just saying I haven't come across a super-smart Trump supporter...and I don't think Ratbastard is going to fit the bill. What I'd like on here is a super-smart Trump supporter who is really going to challenge us left leaners...and that's not Ratbastard. I hope he proves me wrong.
we must take what the lord has given us and his name is RatBastard
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Lets face it we need some Trump supporters around here... I welcome RatBastard's return even if he is hell bent on messing up my emerging Futbol/Soccer thoughts thread...
I don't know. I frequent at least one other internet forum as well as get Facebook conversations from my Trump-supporting sister-in-law and her Trump-supporting friends. And the one thing I notice is that the Trump supporters just aren't a very bright lot. I'm not saying there aren't smart conservatives-because there are-GGW, for example, is a super-smart guy... I'm just saying I haven't come across a super-smart Trump supporter...and I don't think Ratbastard is going to fit the bill. What I'd like on here is a super-smart Trump supporter who is really going to challenge us left leaners...and that's not Ratbastard. I hope he proves me wrong.
we must take what the lord has given us and his name is RatBastard
Not to sound like a bible thumper but the lord gave us everyone, even our resident maniacal what's his name again?
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Lets face it we need some Trump supporters around here... I welcome RatBastard's return even if he is hell bent on messing up my emerging Futbol/Soccer thoughts thread...
I don't know. I frequent at least one other internet forum as well as get Facebook conversations from my Trump-supporting sister-in-law and her Trump-supporting friends. And the one thing I notice is that the Trump supporters just aren't a very bright lot. I'm not saying there aren't smart conservatives-because there are-GGW, for example, is a super-smart guy... I'm just saying I haven't come across a super-smart Trump supporter...and I don't think Ratbastard is going to fit the bill. What I'd like on here is a super-smart Trump supporter who is really going to challenge us left leaners...and that's not Ratbastard. I hope he proves me wrong.
we must take what the lord has given us and his name is RatBastard
Not to sound like a bible thumper but the lord gave us everyone, even our resident maniacal what's his name again?
you can take it that way if you want I suppose.... ;)
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I respectfully disagree with you about Bammy. He has done all in his power to divide the country and in my opinion it was all based on his lack of core values.
that is just bullshit
that comment only sounds cogent in a vacuum of reality
well of course it is. RB is living in trump's alternate reality, where what is BS here is solid gold there. proof:
Trump won DESPITE HRCs illegal voters. Of course he is going to pint it out.
newsflash: there is been ZERO proof that voter fraud occurred. the only person who has said otherwise is... wait for it... Trump. if you're living in trump-land, a single tweet is all you need to alter your reality.
i welcome a trump supporter here (coastal liberals talking only to themselves is one of the reasons the election got away on them). however, like Space, i really wish it was someone with intelligent arguments. so far, RB has spouted trump doctrine verbatim with what seems like no thought. but maybe he'll yet prove me wrong.
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if worse comes to worse maybe we need someone to "act" the role of a Trump supporter.. maybe Donald Trump will have to make a return...
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You guys with your "maybe he'll prove me wrong!" are just delusional. He's a fucking idiot and a shamelessly compulsive liar. How do you even argue or debate with that? You don't. Just ignore his sorry worthless ass and move on with your day much happier.
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this has to be one of the early signs of the apocalypse, right?
Dan Quayle Visits Trump Tower to Offer 'Personal Congratulations' (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/dan-quayle-visits-trump-tower-offer-personal-congratulations/story?id=43853842)
unlike the seven trumpets, this one went unnoticed ;D
Dan Quayle goes unnoticed by pool reporters in Trump Tower (http://thehill.com/homenews/307916-dan-quayle-goes-unnoticed-by-pool-reporters-in-trump-tower)
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You guys with your "maybe he'll prove me wrong!" are just delusional. He's a fucking idiot and a shamelessly compulsive liar. How do you even argue or debate with that? You don't. Just ignore his sorry worthless ass and move on with your day much happier.
Thank you for cosigning on my "go fuck yourself" strategy. Perhaps if we had moderators who actually did a goddamn thing, we could avoid future episodes of Xenophobic Misogyny Corner: Live From The Klan Rally! altogether.
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I respectfully disagree with you about Bammy. He has done all in his power to divide the country and in my opinion it was all based on his lack of core values.
that is just bullshit
that comment only sounds cogent in a vacuum of reality
well of course it is. RB is living in trump's alternate reality, where what is BS here is solid gold there. proof:
Trump won DESPITE HRCs illegal voters. Of course he is going to pint it out.
newsflash: there is been ZERO proof that voter fraud occurred. the only person who has said otherwise is... wait for it... Trump. if you're living in trump-land, a single tweet is all you need to alter your reality.
i welcome a trump supporter here (coastal liberals talking only to themselves is one of the reasons the election got away on them). however, like Space, i really wish it was someone with intelligent arguments. so far, RB has spouted trump doctrine verbatim with what seems like no thought. but maybe he'll yet prove me wrong.
My point exactly. The whole recount thing is absurd. Claims of supposed hacking where voting machines are never on line etc. However the fraud occurred in the primaries where (as internal email has proven), the HRC clan conspired against Sanders in order to force the queen to be the nominee.
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You guys with your "maybe he'll prove me wrong!" are just delusional. He's a fucking idiot and a shamelessly compulsive liar. How do you even argue or debate with that? You don't. Just ignore his sorry worthless ass and move on with your day much happier.
Thank you for cosigning on my "go fuck yourself" strategy. Perhaps if we had moderators who actually did a goddamn thing, we could avoid future episodes of Xenophobic Misogyny Corner: Live From The Klan Rally! altogether.
If we had moderators who held the line on the forums you would not have been here more than two days my friend. Hey at least you did learn how to spell klan correctly!
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The funniest part of this whole discussion is that the childishness that Julian start was a response to me saying that I was proud of the results of the election. He being a liberal and all preaches tolerance and acceptance of everyone and especially those who have different views and opinion. However as is often the case with a large number of the liberal crowd, that belief ends when someone does not agree with them. Only time will tell how well or poorly Mr Trump does was president. We somehow survived 8 years of Bammy (barely).
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I used to think President Obama was terrible... in fact I didn't even think he was an American! I railed on him for 8 years, built my "political name" on the back of American's hatred for him- people like RatBastard (hey old bitter white man, thanks for your vote!) and hey lets call it what it is.. he was one of the blacks....Now, I have my own blacks.. like that guy from California at my rally or Ben Carson (I love the way I can get him to defend me no matter what I say or do... he really is my black)....Still looking for a token black guy for my cabinet... it may just have to be Ben although he is a bit loony at times (Boy, did I smear him during the primaries or what! :))
Thing is it worked.. since so many people hated a black being President I had a good core base of support...
Anyways, the funny thing is then I met Obama a couple of weeks ago and turns out he is a good man after all.. and I'm really starting to think he was born here even though he is still a black of course...
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Hey anybody notice how many billionaires are in my Cabinet?
We are all really rich!!! And we're going to do our best to keep it that way.. oh yah "Make America Great Again!" or what have you... I got to admit its been pretty great for us already.. actually.
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The funniest part of this whole discussion is that the childishness that Julian start was a response to me saying that I was proud of the results of the election. He being a liberal and all preaches tolerance and acceptance of everyone and especially those who have different views and opinion. However as is often the case with a large number of the liberal crowd, that belief ends when someone does not agree with them. Only time will tell how well or poorly Mr Trump does was president. We somehow survived 8 years of Bammy (barely).
So if by definition a liberal is *supposed* to have tolerance and acceptance of differing opinion, does that mean that by definition a conservative is supposed to have intolerance and non-acceptance of differing opinion? That hardly seems fair.
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as a point of reference, while being a contrarian on the forum can be fine.. there is also the club motto "all ages at all times".... so watch the language gang...
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as a point of reference, while being a contrarian on the forum can be fine.. there is also the club motto "all ages at all times".... so watch the language gang...
Hey mac, I'm the President now....
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as a point of reference, while being a contrarian on the forum can be fine.. there is also the club motto "all ages at all times".... so watch the language gang...
The childish behaviour is more of a turn off than the adult language.
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as a point of reference, while being a contrarian on the forum can be fine.. there is also the club motto "all ages at all times".... so watch the language gang...
Hey mac, I'm the President now....
Thats Mac-elect.
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as a point of reference, while being a contrarian on the forum can be fine.. there is also the club motto "all ages at all times".... so watch the language gang...
The childish behaviour is more of a turn off than the adult language.
Nothing wrong with a little salty language imo.
Reminds me of the time my then three year old spewed out the phrase "This cheese is so f'ing good" right in the middle of a rambling story by her blowhard Trump voting father-in-law at the Xmas table. Classic. Anyway, I digress.
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Hey anybody notice how many billionaires are in my Cabinet?
We are all really rich!!! And we're going to do our best to keep it that way.. oh yah "Make America Great Again!" or what have you... I got to admit its been pretty great for us already.. actually.
President-elect?s picks would form the richest administration in modern American history (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/11/30/donald-trump-is-assembling-the-richest-administration-in-modern-american-history/)
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Hey anybody notice how many billionaires are in my Cabinet?
We are all really rich!!! And we're going to do our best to keep it that way.. oh yah "Make America Great Again!" or what have you... I got to admit its been pretty great for us already.. actually.
President-elect?s picks would form the richest administration in modern American history (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/11/30/donald-trump-is-assembling-the-richest-administration-in-modern-american-history/)
Adjusted for inflation?
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We are so screwed.
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trump-has-bizarre-conversation-pakistani-leader
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This is why Trump is the perfect candidate for all of those idiots out there. As I said in the first post of this thread: Trump and his supporters are people who are wrong about everything, have no idea what's going on, are mad for no real reason, and aren't interested in learning anything. They take pride in being completely ignorant.
That someone so stupid and foolish is the leader of our country is embarrassing. But then you look around and realize that this country is made up of people like Ratbastard who have zero sense of history or culture or honesty or dignity, and it's just depressing as hell.
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thank god, there are hunky gym rat men who like to walk around with their shirts off, and have always been curious what's its like to get a bj from a guy, out there . . . to make up for everyone else.
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I made the mistake of looking at the pizzagate hash tag on twitter and conspiracy theory regarding Comet Ping pong pizza continues to cycle out of control.. It's amazing what people without critical thinking skills can weave together from illegally obtained info..
And add the hissy fit a certain "news" site is having over a cereal company pulling advertisment from their website. Apparently 45 million people just got dissed by an ultra left purveyor of sugary cearel... The right really likes their labels
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Another Clinton-Trump divide: High-output America vs low-output America (https://www.brookings.edu/blog/the-avenue/2016/11/29/another-clinton-trump-divide-high-output-america-vs-low-output-america/)
The less-than-500 counties that Hillary Clinton carried nationwide encompassed a massive 64 percent of America?s economic activity as measured by total output in 2015. By contrast, the more-than-2,600 counties that Donald Trump won generated just 36 percent of the country?s output?just a little more than one-third of the nation?s economic activity.
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In the end, our data makes plain that while cultural resentments played a huge role in this month?s election, so too did a massive economic divide between relatively prosperous high-output counties and struggling lower-out rural ones. Hashing out a serviceable politics and policy mix to serve that bifurcated reality is going to be a huge challenge.
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"Two Americas" never been more clearly divided since the Civil War
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man I never will get over this ridiculous election... unemployment rate down to 4.6%...
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/us-payrolls-report-november-2016-130614643.html
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.... behaviour ...
Did you move to London?
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man I never will get over this ridiculous election... unemployment rate down to 4.6%...
https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/us-payrolls-report-november-2016-130614643.html
But have those decreasing unemployment numbers been helped by people leaving the job market, and how is the inflation adjusted wage growth doing?
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for sure there are issues...but its hard to argue -even though some try- that unemployment rate dropping to 4.6 over Obama's presidency from a high of 10% is a bad thing or that the economy is a disaster needing dramatic change.. look at the third chart...
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Remember when Mitt Romney repeatedly, over and over and over, said in 2012 that if Obama got re-elected, the unemployment rate would skyrocket and the economy would tank?
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I thought this was a great summary of Obama's two terms. Of course the Trump retards will lie and whine and complain, but they're idiots.
"The Obama administration's legacy: an economy steered clear of a beckoning Depression, the rescue of the automobile industry, Wall Street reform, the banning of torture, the passage of Obamacare, marriage equality, and the Lily Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, the end of the war in Iraq, heavy investment in renewable-energy technologies, the appointment of Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan to the Supreme Court, the killing of Osama bin Laden, the Iran nuclear deal, the opening of Cuba, the Paris agreement on climate change, two terms long on dignity and short on scandal."
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"The Obama administration's legacy: an economy steered clear of a beckoning Depression, the rescue of the automobile industry, Wall Street reform, the banning of torture, the passage of Obamacare, marriage equality, and the Lily Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, the end of the war in Iraq, heavy investment in renewable-energy technologies, the appointment of Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan to the Supreme Court, the killing of Osama bin Laden, the Iran nuclear deal, the opening of Cuba, the Paris agreement on climate change, two terms long on dignity and short on scandal."
RATBASTARD CANNOT EVEN RECOGNIZE HIS COUNTRY* ANYMORE.
*Germany, circa 1939
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ever notice,
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.... behaviour ...
Did you move to London?
No, but London came all over me....
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.... behaviour ...
Did you move to London?
No, but London came all over me....
London Keyes? London Reigns/London Reinas? Layla London?
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.... behaviour ...
Did you move to London?
No, but London came all over me....
Star of stage and screen Jeremy London? Good for you; he seems like he'd be a thoughtful lover.
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people will be studying this election for the rest of my lifetime and that of my children probably..such is the upset...this is interesting
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/education-not-income-predicted-who-would-vote-for-trump/?ex_cid=story-twitter
proud to live in Arlington
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If people took midterms, this seriously . . . We would be doing, a whole lot better, as a country.
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If people took midterms, this seriously . . . We would be doing, a whole lot better, as a country.
Not only that, but if Democrats would do more than just rally every 4 years for a presidential election, we'd be doing so much better. I give credit to the GOP for one thing -- they seem to treat every election, whether its for president or Congress all the way down to city council and school board seats, as a life-or-death effort. The fact is, the population of this country is not as conservative as our elected leaders. It's a credit to the Republicans that they understand that you build national power by respecting every election at every level and working hard on it.
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democrats, are talkers . . . republicans, are doers. part of the reason why trump won.
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yawn...so much Monday quaterbacking.. all of a sudden the democratic party is such a disaster... if she'd won you'd all be writing the death knell of the Republican Party. .heck you WERE writing it before the election...
there's no need to over exaggerate.. things are bad enough.
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morning
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yawn...so much Monday quaterbacking.. all of a sudden the democratic party is such a disaster... if she'd won you'd all be writing the death knell of the Republican Party. .heck you WERE writing it before the election...
there's no need to over exaggerate.. things are bad enough.
It's true, my buddy and I were talking last night and marveling at the thought that just six weeks or so ago, we thought the GOP was just fucking itself to death over Trump. But I've believed my point on the last page for years -- the GOP is better at mobilizing at the local and state level. That's evidenced by the fact that something like 38 state houses are republican and most governors are. The GOP's demographics might be old and dying out, but they still vote in every election, whereas Hillary couldn't inspire the turnout she needed to win.
I'm not criticizing or Mon morning QBing, just thinking about what happened and some of the reasons why
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Farting in the wind, so to speak
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http://theslot.jezebel.com/sad-these-people-already-regret-voting-for-trump-1789641088
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The fact is Comey totally fucked her over hard twice if not three times...never forget that...
She should have trounced him and she did not.. obviously the American people did not much like her in the end...
But it was very close.. .much closer than it looks in the electoral college..
Beating ourselves up about how we are out of touch and all this hogwash is silly...imho..... remember we are the only ones who give a shit about the working people...
Trump comes in with the weakest mandate ever... he only came up with like 46% of the votes... many who voted for him did it in desperation (we can't have that criminal in the White House...yup, they bought into the lies..) and not as an endorsement of him....to me he takes power wounded... I think he will be reelected in four years but we shall see...
the early signs are his presidency will not be a good one...but who knows.. I have to hope for a good one.. by the time I think he will be done I will be 54! What choice do I have?
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Fucking nut job
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/local/wp/2016/12/04/d-c-police-respond-to-report-of-a-man-with-a-gun-at-comet-ping-pong-restaurant/?utm_term=.0ae888c5e68c
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CPP just can't seem to catch a break
I've yet to actually catch a show there...looks like all this insanity might actually close the place
Isn't that the Comet sign that used to be in Adams Morgan in the 90's, loved that liquor store
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CPP just can't seem to catch a break
I've yet to actually catch a show there...looks like all this insanity might actually close the place
Isn't that the Comet sign that used to be in Adams Morgan in the 90's, loved that liquor store
they've had like two interesting shows in a decade... the raincoats (missed.. a mistake... although they went on at like 2 am or something) and david j
i doubt they will ever get anything else... its all hobo rock..
i do like the joint and the pizza is great
amanda's various bands have played there often..
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There are already claims the CPP shooter is an actor that it's a false flag.. I'm sure it's only a matter of time there is a gofundme campaign to cover this nutjob's legal expenses
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So there is an actor on imdb with the same name as the shooter...
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So it is the same dude, so I guess the whole incident was staged to discredit trump supporters is true. Who knew the liberals had it in them to pull it off
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well if that is all true- and I know nothing- liberals did not have it in them to pull it off....
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It's true, my buddy and I were talking last night and marveling at the thought that just six weeks or so ago, we thought the GOP was just fucking itself to death over Trump.
don't throw out that opinion/analysis quite yet. the GOP got into the white house with a candidate who isn't a GOP'er. he doesn't represent traditional GOP values, his platform is wildly inconsistent with GOP policy.
in other words republicans got back into the white house as parasites. they couldn't get in on their own merits.
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It's true, my buddy and I were talking last night and marveling at the thought that just six weeks or so ago, we thought the GOP was just fucking itself to death over Trump.
don't throw out that opinion/analysis quite yet. the GOP got into the white house with a candidate who isn't a GOP'er. he doesn't represent traditional GOP values, his platform is wildly inconsistent with GOP policy.
in other words republicans got back into the white house as parasites. they couldn't get in on their own merits.
well that may be but they are all getting into power like that and their ideas on most things will predominate... you don't think Trump will represent their ideas on the environment or abortion or in the courts?
I don't see his platform as wildly inconsistent.. maybe on trade but who knows what he'll do on trade
we really don't know what he will do but we know based on the people he is appointing that its the same GOP people...
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(http://static.deathandtaxesmag.com/uploads/2015/12/trump-640x400.jpg)
"HUD. HUD? What the hell is a HUD? It's a cabinet position? Ohhh right, it's that bunch of poor people who are always suing me cuz I treat the blacks the way they should be treated. Ok, who do I stick in there? Black guy, need a black guy. Goddammit where am I supposed to get one of these things?"
(http://i2.cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/151106201948-ben-carson-1106-large-169.jpg)
"I.... am.... I am.... a black man... and while.... I question..... my experience....I must-"
(http://publiuspatriot.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/trumpsmug-e1456326875969.jpg)
"No no you're perfect, this is terrific. You're it, I got a tee time in half an hour."
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Biden, says he is running.
Biden, 2020 . . . Perhaps, Biden / M. Obama 2020
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Biden, says he is running.
Biden, 2020 . . . Perhaps, Biden / M. Obama 2020
Great, Biden will be 78 then! lol.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/l0HlHYP8IxbbuPomA/source.gif)
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He did not say he was running!
I doubt he could get the nomination....
I'd like to see Cory Booker but it will probably be somebody more to the left with no chance to beat Trump.
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He did not say he was running!
Yeah, I, in no way, took his comments as a serious indication he was running for President.
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I'd like to see Cory Booker but it will probably be somebody more to the left with no chance to beat Trump.
Dems "what do we need to do to win next time"
"well a black guy won it before...lets do that again"
Seriously..I like Cory..not sure he's presidential material...but never say never
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Denzel should run. Who wouldn't vote for him? The presidency is all about celebrity now anyway
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Morgan Freeman could win three terms
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Far more likely that Hillary will run than any of the other people being mentioned..she'd be 73.. trump would be 74.. biden would be 77
Biden will not run..
I can't see Hillary running but she is relentless and has no quit....having said that, its hard to read this result as anything but an incredible indictment of her by the American people.... but things can change... and if she did run she'd still have a good chunk of the democratic party electorate supporting her in the primaries...she'd be a player...
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its hard to read this result as anything but an incredible indictment of her by the American people....
so getting 2 million more votes is and incredible indictment?
it's more the dems didn't understand the rules of the electoral college
Unfortunately trump played the low educated vote like a Stradivarius
again never say never...but I seriously doubt he'll deliver on less than 20% of the bullshit that got him elected
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its hard to read this result as anything but an incredible indictment of her by the American people....
so getting 2 million more votes is and incredible indictment?
it's more the dems didn't understand the rules of the electoral college
Unfortunately trump played the low educated vote like a Stradivarius
again never say never...but I seriously doubt he'll deliver on less than 20% of the bullshit that got him elected
1. yes it is an indictment when you are running against a crazy person with no prior experience who runs a campaign where he makes mistake after mistake including saying he likes to grab women by the pussy.. if you can't beat that guy you have a problem
2. of course he won't deliver but most of his supporters didn't vote for him because he had a platform they wanted to see carried out...they voted for Trump cause they like Trump and see in him whatever they want...no matter what he says or does..
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Personally i think the "Trump is so dumb" jokes and memes are really stupid.. he knows exactly what he is doing.. unfortunately..
the Boeing thing? Well you know people are eating it up... its all bullshit of course but he gets to say he's looking out for Americans by saving money for them.. the truth don't matter...
the China thing? This one puzzles me.. all these people saying its a really stupid thing to call Taiwan or to speak to Taiwan rather... why? China has been plain hostile towards us for years.. why shouldn't we talk to Taiwan? This is the one thing he's done that is right! We have to send China a message that if we don't like what they're doing they may not like what we do.. then perhaps they'll be a little bit more clued up on our concerns.. they depend on us as much if not more than we do on them.... who else is going to buy their stuff?
Carson? Yeah to me its a horrible pick.. but to most people who dont' pay much attention "Hey look a black guy in the cabinet! Trump is not a racist!"
Trump has shown himself to be quite an adept politician..this constant underestimating him or reading stupidity into his actions has got to stop.. he's got his reasons for most of the shit that seems insane to us!
Carrier? Brilliant! He saved American jobs... he delivered to the white working man (Never mind the truth which if you don't know it think about the signals it sends. think about the president literally picking people to save their jobs and paying for them with taxpayer money.. i could go on but)...
I could go on.. if he appoints a third General to a cabinet level position it will be pretty unprecedented and in my view really really bad.. but to the average stiff? Hey TRUMP IS TOUGH! LOOK AT ALL THE GENERALS! He's not messing around!
and on and on it goes....
in some ways the reaction by liberals or democrats to Trump reminds me of how people reacted to Reagan.. back in the day everybody thought he was a complete moron... a dumb California jock/actor who didn't have a clue...in my family we would laugh at him all the time...
He knew exactly what he was doing.....
I think if you laugh at Trump or start screaming about how insane what he is doing is you are sort of playing into his hands... this is pretty much the way the campaign went and look where it got us... you have to take him seriously but at the same time the response has to be measured.. you can't , every time he does something , start thinking its the end of the world and posting stupid memes in facebook.
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(http://newsmachete.com/photos/carson2.jpg)
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^Does anybody not know this yet?? This came out months ago!
I think Ben Carson is nuts but he's Secretary of Housing and Urban Development
jokes about how crazy or stupid they are aren't going to cut it..
one can make fun of Carson all one wants but he was smart enough to back Trump early and stick with him....
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and we get a third General.. YUK.
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http://www.cnbc.com/2016/12/07/trump-to-pick-oklahoma-attorney-general-pruitt-as-head-of-epa-source-confirms-to-cnbc.html
*head asplodes*
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WHat did people expect?
I'm amused seeing all the outrage and concern by my liberal friends who during the campaign weren't "excited" about Hillary and didn't lift one finger to get her elected... now all of a sudden its a daily deluge of posts on Facebook expressing concern/outrage/disbelief... WHERE THE FUCK WERE YOU THE PAST YEAR? Oh thats right...putting Hillary down.. saying "Oh they're the same..they're both bad..."
I'm actually more ticked off at my liberal friends these days than I am at conservatives..
I mean what did liberals expect? Is this a surprise of any sort at all??? Next thing liberals will be outraged about some conservative Trump nominates to the Supreme Court!
The same people freaking out are largely the ones who were "Oh I prefer Bernie, Hillary and Trump are both the same...both bad.. its like choosing the worst EVIL!" How many times did I hear this? Thousands?
Umm no.. Hillary would have appointed someone who gave a shit about the, you know, environment... to run the EPA.. she would not have appointed a bunch of Generals to run our national security and a bunch of billionaires to divide up our economy....she would have been GREAT. Not perfect but competent and representative of American values..
Anybody . .any liberal who thinks voting for Hillary or not having voted for Trump was doing enough.. no it was not.. suck it now.
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Should we have moved to Collier county?
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...we need soros to fund a liberal Diaspora to the red states
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Should we have moved to Collier county?
plenty people could have done PLENTY... face it..one does not have to live in a certain area to help a campaign..I mean really? We have to move to red states? Have you heard of phonebanking, donating time to a campaign, donating money.. moreover, liberals just didn't like Hillary.. the progressive wing still does not.. Bernie tried out all the attack lines to the delight of the progressives and Trump kept running with them..... liberals were not enthused by Hillary and well.. now we got Trump... but for those same liberals to be freaking out about each and every Trump appointment.. come on now.. you didn't care before the election but NOW you care about every step Trump takes even though he is not even President yet?
the data bears it out that democrats turned out less for Hillary than republicans did for Trump. ... Republicans fought this election like their lives depended on it.. democrats sat around laughing about Trump.. saying stupid shit like "hey lets not bother to spend money on the presidential election! its in the bag.." one could go on
the point is people shouldn't act all freaked out now...i mean are these Trump decisions a surprise? Did you expect him to appoint someone who cares about the environment?
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Should we have moved to Collier county?
plenty people could have done PLENTY... face it..one does not have to live in a certain area to help a campaign..I mean really? We have to move to red states? Have you heard of phonebanking, donating time to a campaign, donating money.. moreover, liberals just didn't like Hillary.. the progressive wing still does not.. Bernie tried out all the attack lines to the delight of the progressives and Trump kept running with them..... liberals were not enthused by Hillary and well.. now we got Trump... but for those same liberals to be freaking out about each and every Trump appointment.. come on now.. you didn't care before the election but NOW you care about every step Trump takes even though he is not even President yet?
the data bears it out that democrats turned out less for Hillary than republicans did for Trump. ... Republicans fought this election like their lives depended on it.. democrats sat around laughing about Trump.. saying stupid shit like "hey lets not bother to spend money on the presidential election! its in the bag.." one could go on
the point is people shouldn't act all freaked out now...i mean are these Trump decisions a surprise? Did you expect him to appoint someone who cares about the environment?
Who said that? The Democrats outspent the Republicans by a huge margin, right?
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Hillary won the popular vote by 2.7M votes, or 2%. The electoral split was decided in a few counties. Are you suggesting that I should have called Collier county residents, and that would have changed their minds?
They had 87% voter turnout:
Trump - 105,297
Clinton - 60,941
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I'm amused seeing all the outrage and concern by my liberal friends who during the campaign weren't "excited" about Hillary and didn't lift one finger to get her elected... now all of a sudden its a daily deluge of posts on Facebook expressing concern/outrage/disbelief... WHERE THE FUCK WERE YOU THE PAST YEAR? Oh thats right...putting Hillary down.. saying "Oh they're the same..they're both bad..."
I'm actually more ticked off at my liberal friends these days than I am at conservatives..
BUT THEY WEREN'T INSPIRED!! /s
It's the South Park-ization of America: throw the baby out with the bathwater by just poking fun at how imperfect every proposed solution/candidate is while. Meanwhile, propose no alternative and just bitch endlessly when things are shitty as a result.
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donating money..
according to this she raised $700 Mil!
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres16
and money can get boots on the ground and people in the phone banks
So do you think more money would have helped her win
I will say that I'm eating crow in that I thought she should have funneled money to the senate/house
but maybe in the end that might have been money well spent
as 2/3rds of a billion got her NOT elected
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donating money..
according to this she raised $700 Mil!
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres16
and money can get boots on the ground and people in the phone banks
So do you think more money would have helped her win
I will say that I'm eating crow in that I thought she should have funneled money to the senate/house
but maybe in the end that might have been money well spent
as 2/3rds of a billion got her NOT elected
Trump didn't need to spend billions because he had free media attention and was on TV all the fuckin' time..when he wasn't getting media attention he would say something everyone thought was insane and he was back on tv 24-7.... yes the money did not get her elected but I'm pretty sure it helped get her more votes than she would have otherwise..
I mean what are you arguing? Liberals put forth their best effort to get Hillary elected? Really???
Really, there is nothing liberals could have done other than vote? How about standing up and saying "I am voting for Hillary and I think she is awesome"
How many did that? Not just a grudging vote.. for you know someone who was a Senator, a Secretary of State, a former First Lady.. someone who knew the job backwards and forwards
Very very few.. most liberals, you know the type.. the guys who vote for Ralph Nader or like Michael Moore or Bernie or whatever hopeless leftist is around... just did not find enough to get behind Hillary.. and that is fine.. but now these people OWN IT... I was very clear months ago on this very thread about wanting to get involved and do something so as to not be left feeling I had not put it all out on the line for Hillary.... so fuck you to all the liberals now suddenly discovering politics.. on my facebook feed i suddenly see all these people who previously had no interest in the election suddenly interested.. sign this petition.. or oh we can't have this person or lets get a recount... or our only hope is the electoral college
give me a fucking break..its OVER.
these same people will push for bernie or warren or some leftist in four years and democrats will lose again..
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I think rural resentment won the election. Rural people resented their position, and blamed the government. Clinton felt like a continuation of that, and Trump felt like change.
Here's an excerpt from a great article on the topic (though the whole article is worth reading):
http://www.citylab.com/politics/2016/11/the-reality-of-rural-resentment/507659/
"The main things that I heard was this feeling of [rural voters] not getting their fair share of power or attention. They felt like the important decisions, whether in government or industry, were made in cities. And then they had to deal with those decisions, and no one was listening to them or their concerns. It?s partly about resenting that lack of power.
It was also about this feeling of a lack of resources. They feel like they?ve really been getting the short end of the stick with respect to taxation. They felt like they?ve paid in way more taxes than they got back in return. For education, for example, they perceive that the bulk of the money was going to Madison and Milwaukee, and that their community just wasn?t seeing it in return.
And then finally, and this is the one I?m really piecing together these last few days, there?s this feeling of a lack of respect: People in cities look down on us, they think we?re stupid, they think we?re racist, they think we?re voting against our own interests. And I see that in the appeal of Trump so much, using the country vs. city thing to appeal to that resentment. People really resent being looked down on, and they feel like city folks just do not get what rural life is like, or what people value. It?s not all just resenting people of color, and it?s not just resenting urban elites. There is also this general sense that the rest of you out there don?t give a hoot about people like us.
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Basically the liberal position was something like ... well I really don't like Hillary but I'll vote for her because Trump is a lunatic...
just not enough... there just wasn't enough FOR Hillary...
of course Hillary bears responsibility but I'm not talking about that specifically.. I"ll have decades to analyze that as the world goes to fuckin' shit for the next 8 years..fuck.fuck fuck fuck..
I'm talking about all the fuckheads on Facebook and everywhere now suddenly freaking out.. about every darn little thing Trump does.. he was elected president on a republican ticket.. what did you expect?
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I think rural resentment won the election. Rural people resented their position, and blamed the government. Clinton felt like a continuation of that, and Trump felt like change.
Here's an excerpt from a great article on the topic (though the whole article is worth reading):
http://www.citylab.com/politics/2016/11/the-reality-of-rural-resentment/507659/
"The main things that I heard was this feeling of [rural voters] not getting their fair share of power or attention. They felt like the important decisions, whether in government or industry, were made in cities. And then they had to deal with those decisions, and no one was listening to them or their concerns. It?s partly about resenting that lack of power.
It was also about this feeling of a lack of resources. They feel like they?ve really been getting the short end of the stick with respect to taxation. They felt like they?ve paid in way more taxes than they got back in return. For education, for example, they perceive that the bulk of the money was going to Madison and Milwaukee, and that their community just wasn?t seeing it in return.
And then finally, and this is the one I?m really piecing together these last few days, there?s this feeling of a lack of respect: People in cities look down on us, they think we?re stupid, they think we?re racist, they think we?re voting against our own interests. And I see that in the appeal of Trump so much, using the country vs. city thing to appeal to that resentment. People really resent being looked down on, and they feel like city folks just do not get what rural life is like, or what people value. It?s not all just resenting people of color, and it?s not just resenting urban elites. There is also this general sense that the rest of you out there don?t give a hoot about people like us.
you don't get it.. it wasn't ONE magic thing that won Trump the election or lost it for Hillary.. it was many things.. when an election comes down to about 100,000 votes in three states (WI,MI,PA) it pretty much is everything.. do you want me to list all the reasons I've come up with? I'd rather not if you don't mind..
it is so amusing to see people trying to find that one magic reason.. there wasn't one magic reason. there were many many reasons.. any one of them had it gone different could have made the difference..
I have to say I take issue with the rural bit not in the sense that they may not feel that way but that I just don't give a shit.. I don't have to become a farmer.. and I don't look down on farmers...I don't know many people who do? What kind of a wacked out theory is that? Anyone here spend their time looking down on the rural folk?? Cause I don't.... our government spends a TON on farm subsidies.. what the fuck more do they want??? Oh they're not really racists.. they just voted for a guy who used demagoguery to get in.. you know all mexicans are rapists etc etc....a guy who advertises he grabs women by the pussy... sorry, you don't get to say "Hey I voted for Trump cause I felt like city folk were looking down at me not because of... " I mean really?
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And the circus continues...former CEO of the WWE to head SBA. FFS!
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Hillary won the popular vote by 2.7M votes, or 2%. The electoral split was decided in a few counties. Are you suggesting that I should have called Collier county residents, and that would have changed their minds?
They had 87% voter turnout:
Trump - 105,297
Clinton - 60,941
so what? Here in Arlington we had huge turnout and Hillary got way more votes than Obama did back in 2012..what does that prove? It is one county..I'm glad I canvassed a bit.. I have no idea if it had any impact or not... She did carry Virginia.. we broke our family bank donating to Hillary.. do I think it helped.. yes i do.. was it enough? Obviously not.
There were plenty of places and opportunities for people to make their mark on this election....I would say that at a very basic level simply being excited about Hillary would have been good... so many liberals just could not get behind her other than because they hated Trump.. now we can say that was her problem too but once she was the nominee .. man, you owed it to yourself to find something to get behind Hillary for.... there was vast disinterest in Hillary from liberals... she wasn't liberal enough, she was a warmonger, she wasn't black.. I could go on
and unfortunately Bernie who I started out liking ended up being a first class prick.. he boxed her in on a few things and she never got out... she should have handled trade differently.. open to debate exactly how...
and even if bernie was a prick in retrospect its pretty clear that not picking him to be VP was a big mistake (I don't buy it he did not want the job).. had she offered him the VP in Feb or early March it could have changed things dramatically.. the kaine pick was a waste.. based on her margin in VA its pretty clear she would have won without him so what did he contribute.. mea culpa on this one as I thought it was a good pick
but the point was... yes its terrible the people getting appointed.. but its too late and why are you even surprised at this point? wtf do you expect... wait til you see what happens to the Supreme Court.. democrats are living in a fantasy world... RBG ain't going to make it 8 years... others aren't going to make it.. they are the liberals.. thanks RBG for not retiring!!!!!.. we could be looking at a 6-3 conservative majority that will last the rest of my life...abortion is in danger.. gay marriage is in danger.. a ton of things are up in the air at this point
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I'm amused seeing all the outrage and concern by my liberal friends who during the campaign weren't "excited" about Hillary and didn't lift one finger to get her elected... now all of a sudden its a daily deluge of posts on Facebook expressing concern/outrage/disbelief... WHERE THE FUCK WERE YOU THE PAST YEAR? Oh thats right...putting Hillary down.. saying "Oh they're the same..they're both bad..."
I'm actually more ticked off at my liberal friends these days than I am at conservatives..
BUT THEY WEREN'T INSPIRED!! /s
It's the South Park-ization of America: throw the baby out with the bathwater by just poking fun at how imperfect every proposed solution/candidate is while. Meanwhile, propose no alternative and just bitch endlessly when things are shitty as a result.
yeah..that is what is bothering me.. the endless bitching and the shock (either you are an idiot and didn't realize this was what would happen or you knew this would happen and are pretending to be shocked cause hey its what everybody is doing.. sort of the hip flavor of the month.. memes about how dumb Trump is etc)
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the more I think of this rural folk felt looked down on explanation the more I think it is stupid...
those people were never going to vote for Hillary....
there are so many better reasons why she lost...
how about James Fuckhead Comey for starters.. you think that didn't influence 100,000 people in PA, MI and WI???
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I mean you can look at it many different ways but for me looking at it like the problem is the people who voted for Trump doesn't wash.... he got the lowest percentage of any Republican candidate for pres in a long long time.. he only got like 46%
for me I would look at the people who voted for Stein (all "liberals" and "progressives" and yet?) or the pro pot dude (I think 2-1 his votes were democrats.. I have good reason to think this).... or the people that didn't bother to vote at all that usually vote democrat.. that is where the problem lies..
those fuckin' rural folk?? they always vote that way.. read that book whats the matter with kansas.. there are many reasons.. its not city folk looking down on them... its a lot more than that.. unfortunately bleeding heart liberals just love feeling guilty so its like now WE made the mistake by looking down on them.... that sounds like baloney to me..
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I mean you can look at it many different ways but for me looking at it like the problem is the people who voted for Trump doesn't wash.... he got the lowest percentage of any Republican candidate for pres in a long long time.. he only got like 46%
for me I would look at the people who voted for Stein (all "liberals" and "progressives" and yet?) or the pro pot dude (I think 2-1 his votes were democrats.. I have good reason to think this).... or the people that didn't bother to vote at all that usually vote democrat.. that is where the problem lies..
those fuckin' rural folk?? they always vote that way.. read that book whats the matter with kansas.. there are many reasons.. its not city folk looking down on them... its a lot more than that.. unfortunately bleeding heart liberals just love feeling guilty so its like now WE made the mistake by looking down on them.... that sounds like baloney to me..
I fault only the Stein voters in the swing states. If you're a Stein voter in NY, CA, DC, MASS, you get a pass...
Are you saying Johnson the Libertarian's votes were 2-1 Democrat, or is he not the pro-pot dude you're referring to?
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I think rural resentment won the election.
People in cities look down on us, they think we?re stupid, they think we?re racist, they think we?re voting against our own interests. And I see that in the appeal of Trump so much, using the country vs. city thing to appeal to that resentment. People really resent being looked down on, and they feel like city folks just do not get what rural life is like, or what people value. I
There is also this general sense that the rest of you out there don?t give a hoot about people like us.
Well, while that is true (I do look down on the country folk who have no desire to be cosmopolitan) so I could understand why I personally would never get their vote
The rub is...Trump is literately the physical embodiment of that ethos
He's city folk
he's crazy rich
He doesn't really like the common folk and doesn't spend time around them
when was the last photo opp have you seen Trump at a food kitchen helping the downtrodden
I honestly think he spent the last 60 years of his life mocking the very people who voted for him
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the kaine pick was a waste..
couldn't agree more
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I think rural resentment won the election.
People in cities look down on us, they think we?re stupid, they think we?re racist, they think we?re voting against our own interests. And I see that in the appeal of Trump so much, using the country vs. city thing to appeal to that resentment. People really resent being looked down on, and they feel like city folks just do not get what rural life is like, or what people value. I
There is also this general sense that the rest of you out there don?t give a hoot about people like us.
Well, while that is true (I do look down on the country folk who have no desire to be cosmopolitan) so I could understand why I personally would never get their vote
The rub is...Trump is literately the physical embodiment of that ethos
He's city folk
he's crazy rich
He doesn't really like the common folk and doesn't spend time around them
when was the last photo opp have you seen Trump at a food kitchen helping the downtrodden
I honestly think he spent the last 60 years of his life mocking the very people who voted for him
True. But Trump made the rural voters feel like they were being heard. That's how he got their votes.
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True. But Trump made the rural voters feel like
they were being heard. That's how he got their votes.
just made them feel...but he doesn't care and they still don't get it
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It's like I said from the start
his supporters are the kind of people who are wrong about everything, have no idea what's going on, are mad for no real reason, and aren't interested in learning anything.
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Exxon CEO for Secretary of State. WTF.
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Exxon CEO for Secretary of State. WTF.
would your prefer mitt then
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Exxon CEO for Secretary of State. WTF.
of course at first look it looks like a big FU to liberals..and I have no doubt that was part of the attraction for Trump.. every pick is designed to emphasize we lost and just how much we lost.... I mean really? The head of Exxon Mobil??
But I was reading about him and I think he looks pretty good actually.. all in all... even was Presidents of the Boy Scouts and helped oversee the transition...
the only red flag is his apparently very close relationship with Putin..makes you wonder if Putin is taking over our country or something? but nobody cares..
overall though, forgetting the Putin thing (can it really be true), its a way better pick than a Romney or a Giuliani or Petraeus ....
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Exxon CEO for Secretary of State. WTF.
would your prefer mitt then
Ok, school me on what's wrong with Mitt? Other than the Mormon thing?
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Exxon CEO for Secretary of State. WTF.
would your prefer mitt then
Ok, school me on what's wrong with Mitt? Other than the Mormon thing?
Originally I put Rudy...but wasn't sure if he was even in the running so changed to mitt
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China, flies nuclear bomb capable plane in response to Trump and Taiwan. Yeah, sounds about right.
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China, flies nuclear bomb capable plane in response to Trump and Taiwan. Yeah, sounds about right.
they've been flying these before too..before we took Taiwan's call.. when we were being "nice"
I think we have to adopt a tougher line with China.. we should just roll over and let them do whatever the want even when its against our own interests?
From the story:
The Pentagon found out about the flight on Friday and officials said it was the first long-range flight along the demarcation line in more than 18 months - though this sortie extended further than previous ones.
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wow..another thing I agree with Trump on.. defense contractors are out of control and have been for decades.... I hope this isn't just for show and he actually gets something done but I'm skeptical.... but anything to cut defense spending is pretty much fine with me...
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-says-f-35-program-cost-control-134359554--sector.html
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/8806a0cf-ec90-33b7-8f97-406b7e8e7296/ss_conway-says-she-turned-down.html
what it really means: she turned it down cause she's going to cash in and make millions by not taking the job..
still..look on the bright side... I'm glad I won't have to see her face every few days..
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wrong thread
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hmmm more evidence (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/12/us/politics/mcconnell-supports-inquiry-of-russian-hacking-during-election.html?_r=0) that Russian hacking is possible reason for trump winning?
oh and Rex...
(https://www.desmogblog.com/sites/beta.desmogblog.com/files/styles/full_width_blog_image/public/blogimages/Screen%20Shot%202016-12-10%20at%202.44.10%20AM.png?itok=O2zVLV_A)
(http://www.wamungo.com/Images/Tenacious-D-Friendship-Medallion-5369858e89702816008f055b)
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But he's still a better pick than Mitt, right?
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But he's still a better pick than Mitt, right?
I don't see what is wrong with having a prior working relationship with Russia as the head of a business corporation to benefit the corporation he was entrusted to run by the shareholders.
Now if you can prove that he is Putin's stooge or something that is different.. but nation's give CEO's of important businesses medals, badges etc all the time... they also meet business leaders and take pictures with them...
To me the fact he understands the world of international business is a plus...
I would not have picked him myself... but Trump could have done way worse.. think John Bolton! OMG! Or Rudy Giuliani!
Mitt Romney's problem is he has no backbone on anything.. now that may be fine if you're giving a speech saying Trump represents a threat to the world one day and dining out with him the next as you lobby for a job.. but I don't see that as being a good trait in a Secretary of State....he is beyond wishy washy and frankly is icky and gross by this point... After all the things he said about Trump he lobbies him for a job??? I'd be happy not to see him ever again.. he embarrassed himself badly and needs to go away.
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I have not seen any "evidence" that Russian hacking is responsible for Trump winning.. I have heard of some "evidence" that the Russians hacked into the DNC and then provided that info to wikileaks but I'm not so sure that means they are responsible for Trump winning...
I do think there is evidence that for example Russia was acting on the internet to drive up Trump's numbers in the instant polls conducted after the debates....but what does that matter? She clobbered him in all three and still lost...
Of course Russia meddling in our elections is bad but I'm not sure what you can do at this point.... If we had evidence they hacked the voting machines or something it would be diffferent but even if there was such evidence I seriously doubt the American people would be privy to it for at least a couple of generations....the people that run things aren't going to want the sheeple to know their votes don't count...
I'm much more outraged by the Comey thing which everyone conveniently forgot....I think he had a big impact at the end... or the fact the electoral college keeps messing up...I tend to think the electoral college should reflect the popular vote in outcome.. when it doesn't do so two out of five elections I think there is a serious problem...I don't really believe we are a democracy anymore at least as I understood it prior (I know.. a Republic)....W should never have been president.. Trump should never have been president.. not in a democracy.... when it starts to happen repeatedly I have to question the system.. something is wrong here...
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I had not heard about this interview.. striking high stakes poker being played out through the media...of course its tempting to criticize Trump on this but I'm not sure any of us know enough... its been a very long time since I studied US trade....
Taking the call was acceptable in my view.. questioning the "One China" Policy and trying to extort concessions on trade in exchange for continued observance of the "One China" Policy strikes me as a big gamble. But I go back to my key question: If we don't buy China's stuff who will? I mean sure they are flooding the developing world with their junk but without us there simply isn't enough demand for their stuff..I've travelled in Africa and many of those places are so poor they just can't place their stuff there...now it is true that if the cost of goods we import increases it could adversely affect us...but on the other hand there has to be some limit to how much Chinese stuff we buy particularly given how they have been fairly threatening towards us for a good while now.. they don't exactly treat us as their friend... high stakes for sure though
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-questions-one-china-policy-without-beijing-concessions-153535852.html
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its kind of weird though.. I think our number one priority in foreign policy should be to ensure that Russia and China don't become closely allied against us...Trump so far seems to seek rapprochement with Russia and concessions from China... this does have some logic to it...
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I think our number one priority in foreign policy should be to ensure that Russia and China don't become closely allied against us...
Yeah, it'd be awful for major world powers to get along.
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I think our number one priority in foreign policy should be to ensure that Russia and China don't become closely allied against us...
Yeah, it'd be awful for major world powers to get along.
Like that time Germany, Italy, and Japan all got along?
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wow Rick Perry for Secretary of Energy...
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Secretary of Cray Cray?
(http://akns-images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/20161113/rs_1024x759-161213070817-1024.Donald-Trump-Kanye-West-JR-121316.jpg)
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Secretary of Cray Cray?
(http://akns-images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/20161113/rs_1024x759-161213070817-1024.Donald-Trump-Kanye-West-JR-121316.jpg)
Surgeon General, no doubt.
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Secretary of Cray Cray?
(http://akns-images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/20161113/rs_1024x759-161213070817-1024.Donald-Trump-Kanye-West-JR-121316.jpg)
Surgeon General, no doubt.
Poet Laureate, duh
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Secretary of Cray Cray?
(http://akns-images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/20161113/rs_1024x759-161213070817-1024.Donald-Trump-Kanye-West-JR-121316.jpg)
Surgeon General, no doubt.
Poet Laureate, duh
Nobel Prize in Literature
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Nobel Prize in Literature
I don't think that's typically a presidential appointment. Not that Trump won't try...
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Nobel Prize in Literature
I don't think that's typically a presidential appointment.
We're going to look back at a statement like that in like 2 years and laugh heartily at the mere innocence of it.
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wow Rick Perry for Secretary of Energy...
and this
Secretary of Cray Cray?
back to back...
I'm kinda nauseous
seriously...the man isn't even if office yet
this foreplay is beyond insane and something I never expected this holiday season
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Secretary of Cray Cray?
(http://akns-images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/20161113/rs_1024x759-161213070817-1024.Donald-Trump-Kanye-West-JR-121316.jpg)
Surgeon General, no doubt.
Poet Laureate, duh
Nobel Prize in Literature
Is this our generations Nixion Elvis pic
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Pence, hand picked the entire cabinet. The most homophobic group of old white men, since the 80s. I bet we will be stoning gay people, by the summer.
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Monica Crowley to NSC
Trump's National Security Council is truly to be feared... probably the most terrifying agglomeration of nut jobs and wackos I can recall... you got the crazy retired General and the Fox News wackjobs running the place....it will be interesting to see the battle that will ensue, as it always does, between State and NSC... Lord hope Tillerson wins.
oh and Walkie its hard to make the case Tillerson is anti-gay.. he's getting blasted by Tony Perkins
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Virginia Nightclub Threatened After Refusing to Host Pro-Trump 'DeploraBall' (http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Virginia-Nightclub-Threatened-After-Refusing-to-Host-Alt-Right-DeploraBall-406862255.html)
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Pence, hand picked the entire cabinet. The most homophobic group of old white men, since the 80s. I bet we will be stoning gay people, by the summer.
Presidential succession is now just 12 white dudes:
Trump / Pence / Ryan / Hatch / Tillerson / Mnuchin / Mattis
Sessions / Zinke / (Ag?) / Ross / Pudzer / Price
I saw a great photo of this yesterday. I'll see if I can dig it up.
EDIT:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cznx7FMUoAIl2go.jpg)
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From Puzder's Wiki
Puzder was born on July 11, 1950, in Cleveland, Ohio, the son of Winifred M. (Franklin) and Andrew Frank Puzder.[2][3] He grew up in Russell Township. He attended Kent State University and dropped out in 1970[4] following the Kent State shootings. According to Puzder, he then "spent the next three years attending concerts and marching on Washington."[5] While living in Cleveland Heights, Puzder worked in sales at a guitar studio[6]
Worrisome.
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From Puzder's Wiki
Puzder was born on July 11, 1950, in Cleveland, Ohio, the son of Winifred M. (Franklin) and Andrew Frank Puzder.[2][3] He grew up in Russell Township. He attended Kent State University and dropped out in 1970[4] following the Kent State shootings. According to Puzder, he then "spent the next three years attending concerts and marching on Washington."[5] While living in Cleveland Heights, Puzder worked in sales at a guitar studio[6]
Worrisome.
worrisome? that is AWESOME! This may be worrisome although..
In 2005, under Puzder's direction CKE Restaurants launched a controversial marketing campaign featuring bikini-clad models posing suggestively to capture the "hungry, young guy" demographic. The advertisements were criticized for objectifying women and prompted calls to boycott Carl's Jr.[21] Puzder defended the campaign in Entrepreneur magazine, saying "I like our ads. I like beautiful women eating burgers in bikinis. I think it's very American."[/color]
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I like Booker a lot.. do not like Warren..but this time around I'll have a very open mind and be listening a lot more to what other democrats think and trying to gauge the mood of the public.. I think it is highly unlikely anyone will defeat Trump in 2020 though..
http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/15/politics/elizabeth-warren-senate-armed-services/index.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rss%2Fcnn_latest+%28RSS%3A+CNN+-+Most+Recent%29
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Warren/Booker 2020
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Monica Crowley to NSC
Trump's National Security Council is truly to be feared... probably the most terrifying agglomeration of nut jobs and wackos I can recall... you got the crazy retired General and the Fox News wackjobs running the place....it will be interesting to see the battle that will ensue, as it always does, between State and NSC... Lord hope Tillerson wins.
oh and Walkie its hard to make the case Tillerson is anti-gay.. he's getting blasted by Tony Perkins
Exxon, as a company, under him, for a long time, was horrible toward LGBT. The boy scout thing was because he was an uber obsessed scout, and thought it should be available for all. Is Tony Perkins, still a thing?
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From Puzder's Wiki
Puzder was born on July 11, 1950, in Cleveland, Ohio, the son of Winifred M. (Franklin) and Andrew Frank Puzder.[2][3] He grew up in Russell Township. He attended Kent State University and dropped out in 1970[4] following the Kent State shootings. According to Puzder, he then "spent the next three years attending concerts and marching on Washington."[5] While living in Cleveland Heights, Puzder worked in sales at a guitar studio[6]
Worrisome.
worrisome? that is AWESOME! This may be worrisome although..
In 2005, under Puzder's direction CKE Restaurants launched a controversial marketing campaign featuring bikini-clad models posing suggestively to capture the "hungry, young guy" demographic. The advertisements were criticized for objectifying women and prompted calls to boycott Carl's Jr.[21] Puzder defended the campaign in Entrepreneur magazine, saying "I like our ads. I like beautiful women eating burgers in bikinis. I think it's very American."[/color]
I would be ok with that statement if it were changed to "veggie burgers".
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Trump appoints his personal bankruptcy attorney to be Ambassador to Israel...
I wonder how those liberals who questioned Hillary on foreign policy are feeling now? Friedmann is against the Palestinians having a state, plans to move the embassy to Jerusalem and is pro settlement...
Here again we see the shortsightedness of the progressive wing of the democratic party that so vehemently opposed Hillary's nomination and particularly those that claimed both Trump and Hillary were the same.. two evils...
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I have to say even I expected better from Trump than what he is doing so far... some of the moves are disconcerting and potentially very destabilizing....
I mean its one thing to take a call from Taiwan.. another to publicly state that Taiwan is some sort of bargaining chip with China... one thing to be pro-Israel..another to appoint a guy who is obviously a bit extreme to the right wing of the Israeli spectrum...I mean historically we at least have pretended to want a balanced approach in the Middle East...to essentially state publicly that we are pro Israel and anti Palestine one could assume will be very beneficial to anti-US forces in the Middle East... and when China says that their sovereignty is not a bargaining chip, well, that seems to be creating a frayed relationship with our largest trading partner- to put it kindly- from the outset..
on the other hand its not as if things were working out great.. maybe this will give the US some negotiating room in both cases....
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From Puzder's Wiki
Puzder was born on July 11, 1950, in Cleveland, Ohio, the son of Winifred M. (Franklin) and Andrew Frank Puzder.[2][3] He grew up in Russell Township. He attended Kent State University and dropped out in 1970[4] following the Kent State shootings. According to Puzder, he then "spent the next three years attending concerts and marching on Washington."[5] While living in Cleveland Heights, Puzder worked in sales at a guitar studio[6]
Worrisome.
worrisome? that is AWESOME! This may be worrisome although..
In 2005, under Puzder's direction CKE Restaurants launched a controversial marketing campaign featuring bikini-clad models posing suggestively to capture the "hungry, young guy" demographic. The advertisements were criticized for objectifying women and prompted calls to boycott Carl's Jr.[21] Puzder defended the campaign in Entrepreneur magazine, saying "I like our ads. I like beautiful women eating burgers in bikinis. I think it's very American."[/color]
Worrisome, as in am I, are you, avid concertgoer, capable of transforming into Puzder
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From Puzder's Wiki
Puzder was born on July 11, 1950, in Cleveland, Ohio, the son of Winifred M. (Franklin) and Andrew Frank Puzder.[2][3] He grew up in Russell Township. He attended Kent State University and dropped out in 1970[4] following the Kent State shootings. According to Puzder, he then "spent the next three years attending concerts and marching on Washington."[5] While living in Cleveland Heights, Puzder worked in sales at a guitar studio[6]
Worrisome.
worrisome? that is AWESOME! This may be worrisome although..
In 2005, under Puzder's direction CKE Restaurants launched a controversial marketing campaign featuring bikini-clad models posing suggestively to capture the "hungry, young guy" demographic. The advertisements were criticized for objectifying women and prompted calls to boycott Carl's Jr.[21] Puzder defended the campaign in Entrepreneur magazine, saying "I like our ads. I like beautiful women eating burgers in bikinis. I think it's very American."[/color]
Worrisome, as in am I, are you, avid concertgoer, capable of transforming into Puzder
Contrary to popular belief, right wing pricks can also be music fans.
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wow, to the what which is going on north Carolina.
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I have to say even I expected better from Trump than what he is doing so far... some of the moves are disconcerting and potentially very destabilizing....
Why?
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I have to say even I expected better from Trump than what he is doing so far... some of the moves are disconcerting and potentially very destabilizing....
Why?
Why are the moves potentially destabilizing or why did I expect better? I'll assume the latter as more likely a question....
Because I thought Trump would be a little more staid and middle ground... why did I think that? I guess because I thought a lot of his talk was meant to get him votes...and not indicative of what he would do..
But I didn't underestimate him per-se as we did all we could and took him seriously and at his word... ....while I thought he would be more mellow and conformist in regards to the hues of decades of American foreign policy I took him at his word and assumed the worse... I just thought he'd be better... but we were enthusiastic Hillary supporters and Trump detractors..
I never thought he'd really be exhibit madman behavior but he seems to be doing just that...I thought he was pursuing power for his own benefit and the powers that be would explain the birds and the bees of foreign policy to him..
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omarosa. yes. her.
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it just gets worse and worse
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/12/tom-arnold-says-hes-got-recordings-of-trump-using-racial-slurs-and-calling-son-a-retard/comments/#disqus
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it just gets worse and worse
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/12/tom-arnold-says-hes-got-recordings-of-trump-using-racial-slurs-and-calling-son-a-retard/comments/#disqus
Where the fuck was he two months ago?
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noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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it just gets worse and worse
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/12/tom-arnold-says-hes-got-recordings-of-trump-using-racial-slurs-and-calling-son-a-retard/comments/#disqus
Where the fuck was he two months ago?
Being Tom Arnold, no one gave a fuck.
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I'd like to propose a constitutional amendment that US gov't officials are forbidden for using twitter as a form of communication
if I see another news story with 'he tweeted' my head is going to explode
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if we weren't obsessed with talking to each other via computers, cough cough, then stuff like that, would not happen.
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I'd like to propose a constitutional amendment that US gov't officials are forbidden for using twitter as a form of communication
if I see another news story with 'he tweeted' my head is going to explode
I've got a spoiler alert for the next 4 years...
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http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/12/20/cal-thomas-what-michelle-obama-doesnt-understand-about-hope-and-humility.html
I like to hit Fox News to see what "the other side" is going on about, because the news is generally depressing but.... this article. Wow. Just blows me away. I thought it couldn't get worse until I hit the comments section. Geez.
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https://noisey.vice.com/en_us/article/donald-trump-a-tremendous-loser-has-no-famous-friends-sad
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I can't even...FFS
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Those guys would Never fuck those two women In that photo . . . and they Know it.
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Golden Showers
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man i cannot believe this is actually really happening.. i'm going to need a lot of rock and roll and alcohol to get through the Trump years....
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man that photo really makes me want to puke
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Big story involving Trump and Russia . . . about to Blow the fuck up?
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Robert F. Kennedy Jr. getting a stage from the Trump admin
didn't see that coming, but then again...
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Big story involving Trump and Russia . . . about to Blow the fuck up?
come on... ?FAKE NEWS - A TOTAL POLITICAL WITCH HUNT!?
story over ...right?
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You know how they say the presidency Ages people? The man hasn't Even taken office yet And he already looks Awful and older.
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Did you know that Hillary Clinton once had a private email server at her house?
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Did you know that Hillary Clinton once had a private email server at her house?
SENATE INVESTIGATION TIME
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They guy could literally shoot someone on 5th Avenue, and nobody would do anything about it.
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They guy could literally shoot someone on 5th Avenue, and nobody would do anything about it.
FAKE NEWS - HILLARY IS JUST TRYING TO DESTROY THE SECOND AMENDMENT
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Did you know that Hillary Clinton once had a private email server at her house?
I for one am enthused that the president elect puts such a high priority on improving electronic records management at the federal level.
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It really is "amusing" how every time a new revelation surfaces about the Donald, his followers always bring up the emails.. It's also surfaced that there are some that didn't know ACA was the same as ombamacare... So repel that nasty Obamacare thingy and then wait what? And let's just put anti vaccination "expert" in charge of a review committee, what could possibly go wrong.. I wonder if plants grow well when watered with Gatorade
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I am having a rough time.
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Every day the news gets worse and worse. And the inauguration is still a week away.
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It's also surfaced that there are some that didn't know ACA was the same as ombamacare...
To be fair, this has been proven to be a Bernie Bro who was trolling.
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Isn't it odd that Trump had to go to Russia to get a golden shower when there are millions of women (and men) right here in America who would give their left nut to piss all over him?
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Isn't it odd that Trump had to go to Russia to get a golden shower when there are millions of women (and men) right here in America who would give their left nut to piss all over him?
But then he couldn't be peed on on a bed Michelle Obama slept on.
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If only he could move into one of their former residences....
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If only he could move into one of their former residences....
I just got my invitation in the mail to a $2million dollar a pillow pee-party in the Lincoln Bedroom. Undecided on attending.
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Every day the news gets worse and worse. And the inauguration is still a week away.
That press conference was painful to watch. The exchange with the CNN reporter. Good god. This guy is a fucking child!
"I will be the greatest job creator that God ever created" :o
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I am having a rough time.
I hear you..
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(http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.2553577.1457136359!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_750/conflead6f-2-web.jpg)
"I sense great vulnerability. A man-child crying out for love. An innocent orphan in the post-modern world."
"I see a parasite. A sexually depraved miscreant who is seeking only to gratify his basest and most immediate urges."
"His struggle is man's struggle. He lifts my spirit."
"He is a loathesome, offensive brute. Yet I can't look away."
"He transcends time and space."
"He sickens me."
"I love it."
"Me too."
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJscLzuxiWc
the New national anthem.
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In 2020, the Democrats could run Streep, Leonardo DiCaprio, Beyonce, Matt Damon, or Rosie O?Donnell. (https://newrepublic.com/article/139756/democrats-run-celebrity-president)
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The soft sensual Inauguration musical entertainment list:
A fake-country band called Big and Rich
A pedophile
A reality show loser
Yep, sounds about right.
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?workers are currently going around the National Mall taping over the company name on each porta-potty: ?Don?s Johns.? (http://www.popville.com/2017/01/this-amazing-dons-johns-dc-inauguration/)
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as if i needed another reason to hate trump... he's now got me laughing at potty humor. i thought i was above that.
partisanship is a hellavu drug...
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as if i needed another reason to hate trump... he's now got me laughing at potty humor. i thought i was above that.
partisanship is a hellavu drug...
You've got two (three?) year olds. Get used to it!
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B-Street Band drops out of inauguration celebration. . . Also, their spokesman/keyboardist is named Will Forte.
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/bruce-springsteen-cover-band-drops-out-of-donald-trump-party-w461203 (http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/bruce-springsteen-cover-band-drops-out-of-donald-trump-party-w461203)
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B-Street Band drops out of inauguration celebration. . . Also, their spokesman/keyboardist is named Will Forte.
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/bruce-springsteen-cover-band-drops-out-of-donald-trump-party-w461203 (http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/bruce-springsteen-cover-band-drops-out-of-donald-trump-party-w461203)
wow.. they can't even get cover bands!
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a twitter funny about eff'ing with trump (http://www.thefrisky.com/2017-01-17/people-want-obama-to-step-down-a-day-early-so-joe-biden-can-be-president-for-24-hours/):
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WTF is wrong with people in this country lately?
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/01/17/mayor-quits-golf-club-as-members-try-to-block-obamas-entry.html
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Fiona chimes in........ http://www.brooklynvegan.com/listen-to-fiona-apples-anti-trump-chant-tiny-hands-she-wrote-for-the-womens-march-on-washington/
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FUCK TRUMP.
this is one of the last times I'm going to say that.... trying to get it out of my system... ;D but its not working..
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To recap the week in Donald Trump:
- He's now accused half of the major tv networks of being "fake news."
- Six federal agencies are now investigating Russian funding of his campaign.
- He got canceled on by a Bruce Springsteen tribute band.
- He finally reimbursed $25 million to the students of his fake university.
- He got sued by one of his many sexual harassment victims.
- His pick for Secretary of Education said we need guns in schools in case grizzly bears attack. She then claimed she had no idea she's been the vice president of an anti-gay group for the past seventeen years.
- He got caught trying to hire people to fill all the empty seats expected at his inauguration.
- His pick for Secretary of Energy admitted he had no idea what the Department of Energy is.
- He tried to tweet his daughter but got her name wrong and instead tweeted some woman in England.
- He claimed that bikers were on their way to his inauguration when it was really a photo of some bikers in Spain in 2013.
- His pick for United Nations Ambassador admitted she has no qualifications for the job.
- He tried to use his Twitter account to sell subscriptions to a golf magazine.
- He announced that America's inner cities will be revitalized by the host of Family Feud.
- His nominee for Health and Human Services hinted he'll phase out Medicare. Then he accidentally admitted to felony insider trading.
- His senior advisor resigned after being caught plagiarizing an entire book, marking the third of his senior advisors to resign in three weeks.
- He hired a new advisor who's currently being sued for hiring white people to beat up black people.
- He announced that the very first thing he'll do after he's sworn in as president will be to take three days off.
- His nominee for HUD Secretary said during his confirmation hearings that "It will not be my intention to do anything to benefit any American."
...and it's only Thursday.
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you missed this one: "All talk, talk, talk ? no action or results. Sad!"
well, guess that was Saturday?
oh look someone is doing a email newsletter http://lastweekintrump.com/
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If anyone is on H St we'll be playing some music and welcoming in whoever wants to dance all night at Little Miss Whiskey's. They'll be open until 4am.
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B-Street Band drops out of inauguration celebration. . . Also, their spokesman/keyboardist is named Will Forte.
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/bruce-springsteen-cover-band-drops-out-of-donald-trump-party-w461203 (http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/bruce-springsteen-cover-band-drops-out-of-donald-trump-party-w461203)
Meanwhile, Bruce Springsteen Plays 'Secret' Farewell Concert For Obama Staffers (http://www.nbcwashington.com/entertainment/entertainment-news/Bruce-Springsteen-Plays-Secret-Concert-For-Obama-Staffers-411219135.html)
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Anyone watching the anti Trump protest outside of Trump Tower with I guess famous people? Live streaming now.
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Anyone watching the anti Trump protest outside of Trump Tower with I guess famous people? Live streaming now.
I hope not.. i mean that sounds like a real waste of time... you'd have to have absolutely no life to watch that..
my kid brought home a crazy assignment from school .. i'm a bit perturbed..but i guess you have to brainwash them young...
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azealia banks wants / demands to perform.
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I think I read this somewhere . . . North Korea is threatening to blow up DC for the inauguration.
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Hear Arcade Fire's New Song With Mavis Staples, 'I Give You Power'
http://www.npr.org/sections/allsongs/2017/01/19/510631971/hear-arcade-fires-new-song-with-mavis-staples-i-give-you-power
for those in need of a new protest song.
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this is going to be painful
lot's of Jesus talk going on the steps of the capitol
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Clare Malone 11:40 AM
There are a lot of protests going on in D.C., and they?ve gotten a bit violent. Here?s a video (https://twitter.com/Patrick_Madden/status/822469479296864260) from Twitter of police apparently pepper-spraying a group of protesters ? an anarchist element of these protests has been smashing windows and cars in the District.
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I'm sorry I have to say it . . . Melania was dressed to the 9s and looked incredible.
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Holy crap! I just watched a video of people marching down 395 in between cars and fully stopping traffic.
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God i hate listening to people who dont know anything talk poitics.....like my brother in laW
Trump will either be the best president ever or worst
This guy is really into the extremes
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well that did not go in well.. when they started calling her a "proven criminal" and talking about emails things went south fast..
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I wish the public would take these kind of statements serious
There's been a lot of talk in the media about the responsibility to hold Donald Trump accountable. And I'm here to tell you that it goes two ways. We're going to hold the press accountable, as well. The American people deserve better. And as long as he serves as the messenger for this incredible movement, he will take his message directly to the American people where his focus will always be.
-Sean Spicer
So we should no longer trust the news and trust Don allmighty
sounds like fascism to me
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Alternative Facts.
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Alternative Facts.
Opening for The Reagan Years
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they kind of look like characters from Batman (the bad guys of course)... if only steve bannon had a walking stick
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look at that side eye glare . . . that just screams "you're the type of bitch who guys like my husband are fucking and not me."
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So gross (inside and out).
Who else was there on Saturday? Inspiring crowd of people.
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our clan was there, including the kiddos. the inauguration had gotten the missus really depressed, the march really lifted her spirits.
what a crazy crush. we got nervous on a few occasions, what with having two little ones with us... but everyone was really friendly despite being packed in like sardines. definitely the biggest crowd i've ever been part of.
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my guess for oxford's word of the year: "alternate facts."
orwell is smiling right now.
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our clan was there, including the kiddos. the inauguration had gotten the missus really depressed, the march really lifted her spirits.
what a crazy crush. we got nervous on a few occasions, what with having two little ones with us... but everyone was really friendly despite being packed in like sardines. definitely the biggest crowd i've ever been part of.
Thanks for attending!
Same experience. Decided to walk around at 2:45 and ending up getting super stuck. But everyone (except for one person who I really thought was probably a Trump supporter) was really nice.
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we were in philly area on day of march visiting for my niece's birthday part but driving back to dc driving down on I95 at about 10 pm we must have seen like 500 (it was a shitload!) buses driving north.. obviously the marchers returning... it was insane how many buses there were.. never seen anything like it..you'd see bus bus bus car car bus bus bus bus bus bus bus truck car car car bus bus bus bus bus bus car...
i can't deny it made us feel good and somewhat inspired that people went to such great lengths to attend the march...
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I was there. Never seen so many people in one place. Very impressive display. Hope it doesn't peeter out and this is a sign of things to come for the mid term elections. Unfortunately, I have my doubts.
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Dude by the time midterms roll around we'll go right back to what we do the best . . . not giving a s*** and being annoyed if we have to actually do anything like voting or caring or anything beyond posting something on Facebook or Twitter.
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https://twitter.com/peggyorenstein/status/823669386464534529
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Was there on Saturday. Woke up and started seeing the crowds and felt inspired. I didn't want to deal with the crowds, but we were able to cab right down from Columbia Heights down to Constitution and hit no traffic right around 1. Met up with my sisters and mother. Super super inspiring to see so many people out there and being vocal.
At the end I walked from the white house over to Chinatown to catch the metro, just about every street was shut down due to people walking around. There was a MASSIVE crowd in front of Trump hotel making tons of noise. So awesome.
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Trump names his Inauguration Day a ?National Day of Patriotic Devotion? (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/01/23/trump-names-his-inauguration-day-a-national-day-of-patriotic-devotion/?hpid=hp_rhp-top-table-main_trumpturmoil-0902pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.82a3aef80aa3)
wtf
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this administration is going to f*ck up this country and the planet something awful.
Trump gives new life to Dakota Access, Keystone XL oil pipelines
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2017/01/24/trump-gives-green-light-to-dakota-access-keystone-xl-oil-pipelines/
Scott Pruitt's EPA Confirmation Hearing Was a Surreal Nightmare
http://gizmodo.com/scott-pruitts-epa-confirmation-hearing-was-a-surreal-ni-1791337353
Trump Administration Freezes All EPA Grants, Forbids Staffers From Talking to the Public
http://gizmodo.com/trump-administration-freezes-all-epa-grants-forbids-st-1791548494
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this administration is going to f*ck up this country and the planet something awful.
Trump gives new life to Dakota Access, Keystone XL oil pipelines
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2017/01/24/trump-gives-green-light-to-dakota-access-keystone-xl-oil-pipelines/
Scott Pruitt's EPA Confirmation Hearing Was a Surreal Nightmare
http://gizmodo.com/scott-pruitts-epa-confirmation-hearing-was-a-surreal-ni-1791337353
Trump Administration Freezes All EPA Grants, Forbids Staffers From Talking to the Public
http://gizmodo.com/trump-administration-freezes-all-epa-grants-forbids-st-1791548494
Is all of this specific to Trump or would it have happened if any Republican who ran had been nominated and elected?
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Yes, Yes.
No.
Yes, no.
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this administration is going to f*ck up this country and the planet something awful.
Scott Pruitt's EPA Confirmation Hearing Was a Surreal Nightmare
http://gizmodo.com/scott-pruitts-epa-confirmation-hearing-was-a-surreal-ni-1791337353
This makes my head hurt
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As someone more clever than I said on Twitter today...
Who knew the resistance would be led by Teen Vogue and the National Park Service
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Well apparently the NPS tweets came from a former employee who had still had access.. But kudos to that person!
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https://www.buzzfeed.com/johnstanton/the-trump-administration-may-be-the-best-thing-for-the-punk?utm_term=.valxWd2eJg#.sgAEKOQmo6
I was at the Black Clouds/Loud Boyz show on Saturday. Pulled up right as the protesters were out their spewing their rhetoric over megaphones. It was awesome that someone brought out speakers to blast Lady Gaga and other pop hits to drown out what they were saying. People from the other shops near Comet all came out and started dancing in their faces. What a sight.
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exciting times!
https://docs.google.com/document/d/10PMC2_XtiHhMe84fcqII-zrI4nopBYt1-YRuQp7yk4M/mobilebasic
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Nice!
https://twitter.com/AltNatParkSer
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its getting kind of crazy...
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its getting kind of crazy...
When half of America is reading "news" like this, what hope do we have?
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/01/25/sean-hannity-trump-spicer-turn-tables-on-alt-left-media.html
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If a reality show host can be president, why not a NASCAR drive as US Senator?
http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/nascars-carl-edwards-rule-us-senate-run-18-45039768
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for every action there is a reaction... Trump and his people- a minority- can keep poking the majority in the eye but at some point there will be a reaction.
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Science marches on
http://www.scientistsmarchonwashington.com/
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its getting kind of crazy...
When half of America is reading "news" like this, what hope do we have?
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/01/25/sean-hannity-trump-spicer-turn-tables-on-alt-left-media.html
Love this. How fucking hypocritical of fox news to call other news networks biased. 3 years and 360 days left... dear god...
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"INAUGURATION DAY" ? A Bad Lip Reading of Donald Trump's Inauguration
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gneBUA39mnI
i was so over those bad lip reading videos, but this one has restored the faith. it's excellent.
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One one hand, he and almost all of his supporters are the kind of people who are wrong about everything, have no idea what's going on, are mad for no real reason, and aren't interested in learning anything.
On the other hand, it might be fun to have a president that just yells and insults people all the time.
A year and a half later, how say you now?
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The State Department?s entire senior management team just resigned (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/josh-rogin/wp/2017/01/26/the-state-departments-entire-senior-management-team-just-resigned/?utm_term=.a3832034093d)
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So gross (inside and out).
Who else was there on Saturday? Inspiring crowd of people.
I had the flu all last week, and Friday Jan 20th was my mom's birthday. It was a last minute decision, but my mom, sister and I left Frostburg at 5 am. We went with friends who followed us. We passed so many busses going down 68 to 70 to 270, etc. Took the metro from College Park. Got to the national mall at 9:20 am. Was there until 5 pm. I was still slightly sick. Got dehydrated and overwhelmed by the crowds, but it was fucking awesome! We all left feeling inspired. My sister is going to spend today and tomorrow calling Senators about Betsy DeVos. We both have learning disabilities and it really pissed us off when she said some damning stuff about I.D.E.A. In fact, my sister wore a t-shirt she made to the March that stated how I.D.E.A. is what helped her graduate high school.
Anyhow, the march was insane and awesome. Also, a bit surreal because I've done a lot of matches and protests during the Bush administration and I think the largest crowd I had been in was 750k which was for the March for Women's Lives back in 2004. At that march, I was able to actually march. This past Saturday, I was stuck at the Rally and couldn't go very far because of how big the crowds were. On the way home, I told my mom that there had to have been a million people there.
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One one hand, he and almost all of his supporters are the kind of people who are wrong about everything, have no idea what's going on, are mad for no real reason, and aren't interested in learning anything.
On the other hand, it might be fun to have a president that just yells and insults people all the time.
A year and a half later, how say you now?
Yeah, I was able to be facetious back then because the idea that he would win was just ridiculous.
That first sentence captures the Trump phenomenon well, and when I posted it around on social media, I got lots of agreement.
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lots of that going around: https://twitter.com/trump_regrets?lang=en
http://www.salon.com/2016/12/05/the-brexit-treatment-now-donald-trump-voters-are-realizing-they-made-a-huge-mistake/
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I was there Saturday. Was at 7th and Independence. Was caught in a crush of people for about 20 minutes. That was really the only scary part of the day. Aside from that, an amazing experience. Hope this was not the only march.
Everyone who's near Columbia is also welcome to join me the second sunday of every month from 4-5 at Windstream Drive and Governor Warfield Parkway for the monthly Black Lives Matter Vigil. I've been going for a few months.
Would also recommend joining the DC SURJ meetings (or Baltimore if they're closer to you).
Love that the voicemails for the senators has been full as of late. I have gotten through a few times.
Looking forward to the science march.
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I'm in kind of a weird place, divided between two opposing thoughts
1. I'm glad that many of the people who voted for Trump are the ones who are going to feel the effects of his presidency the most, i.e. the people who rely on government or social services (while screaming "GET THE GOVERNMENT OFF MY BACK WHERE'S MY CHECK"). Haha you dumb fuckers, you voted for this, now you reap the consequences. This lump of shit made all these unbelievably retarded promises and claims, and you are such an idiot that you accepted and supported it. Have fun losing your insurance, your job, your home (when the trade wars start), and maybe your life if he starts a stupid war. Remember, this is your own doing. Boo fucking hoo.
versus
2. I'm sad that many of the people who voted for Trump are the ones who will suffer the most because it's not their fault they were lied to, manipulated, seduced, etc. No matter how low and insulting and dishonest and racist Trump and the GOP is and was during the election, a lot of people voted for him because their lives are genuinely bad and they firmly believe politics-as-usual will never benefit them. Being able to think critically is a privilege that not everybody was fortunate enough to inherit/develop and wishing bad things for people already in a shitty situation makes you an asshole.
Ultimately, I'm sticking with #1 but I always have #2 in mind.
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This does a good job of explaining the obvious.
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/1/26/1625715/-Here-s-what-s-psychologically-wrong-with-Donald-Trump
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I don't think they will suffer as much as you think.. remember their real suffering was their out of control irrational hate of Obama and Hillary... they will be able to put up with/justify/lie to themselves a lot.. you'll see.. they have a bond with Trump... most of them will hold fast unless something really dramatic happens....
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Well I think the effects are going to be real. He's already talking about a 20% tax on goods coming in from Mexico. If it happens, that is a very real hit to the wallet of people who are struggling to make ends meet. And for all the shitting on Obamacare, there are many millions of people who have it. If it's repealed with nothing, or dogshit legislation, in place, you're going to see a lot of people with no coverage showing up to emergency rooms.
If you're white, educated and middle class, these things aren't going to have such a huge effect on you. If you're someone living on the margins, or are struggling with finances, or have few job prospects, a Trump presidency is almost certainly going to be disastrous. I know it's way too early to cast judgement, but amid all this activity in his first week, nothing is designed to help the lower income people apart from the usual bombastic rhetoric. It's really sad how much worse it's going to get for a lot of people.
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On the other hand, suck it idiots, he's your president.
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It's getting ugly out there: 'We Are Compiling a List': Pro-Trump Group Threatens Boycott of Virginia Knitting Shop (http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/We-Are-Compiling-at-List-Pro-Trump-Group-Threatens-Boycott-of-Virginia-Knitting-Shop-412013155.html)
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with a shout-out to this board's resident DSM fanboy, julian:
Here?s what?s psychologically wrong with Donald Trump
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/01/27/1625715/-Here-s-what-s-psychologically-wrong-with-Donald-Trump
more:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/01/28/1626451/-Diagnosing-a-Tyrant
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in case you needed more reasons to hate el trumpista:
Report: Donald Trump Plans to Eliminate National Endowment for the Arts, Privatize Corporation for Public Broadcasting
http://www.spin.com/2017/01/report-donald-trump-plans-to-eliminate-national-endowment-for-the-arts-privatize-corporation-for-public-broadcasting/
and the real doozie:
Donald Trump Has Compelled Audioslave to Reunite
http://www.spin.com/2017/01/audioslave-reuniting-donald-trump/
we cannot idly sit by while these travesties are committed against this country. we must rise up, as one.
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Breaking: Trump and James Ford crushed by order from Judge blocking kicking out muslims with visas...ACLU says "Get ready for losing.. lots of losing Trump"
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"Amid the chaos and confusion of President Donald Trump's new executive order on immigration and refugees, sources tell CNN that White House policy director Stephen Miller spoke with officials of the State Department, Customs and Border Patrol, Department of Homeland Security and others to tell them that the President is deeply committed to the executive order and the public is firmly behind it -- urging them not to get distracted by what he described as hysterical voices on TV."
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https://www.samharris.org/blog/item/a-few-thoughts-on-the-muslim-ban
A Few Thoughts on the ?Muslim Ban?
President Trump has had a busy first week in office, displaying the anarchic grandiosity, callousness, and ineptitude of which he seems uniquely capable. He is every inch what we knew him to be: a malignant Chauncey Gardiner. And now our institutions have begun to shudder at his whim. The fact that atheists like me can?t find the time to worry about the religious crackpots he has brought with him into power is a measure of how bad the man is. Christian fundamentalism has become the least of our concerns. Our democracy has been engulfed by a hurricane of lies.
Many readers have asked me to comment on the president?s executive order suspending immigration from certain Muslim-majority countries. I believe I?ve stated my positions on the relevant topics fairly clearly. But perhaps a brief summary is in order.
1. I did everything I could to make the case against Trump prior to the election (while many of the liberals now attacking me for enabling his ?Islamophobia? actively undermined the candidacy of Hillary Clinton, even in the final days of the campaign).
2. I think Trump?s ?Muslim ban? is a terrible policy. Not only is it unethical with respect to the plight of refugees, it is bound to be ineffective in stopping the spread of Islamism. As many have pointed out, it is also internally inconsistent: It doesn?t include Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Egypt, or Lebanon, any of which has been a more fertile source of jihadist terrorism than several of the countries Trump named.
3. However, most of what is being said in opposition to Trump?s order is thoroughly contaminated by identity politics and liberal delusion. The Left seems determined to empower the Right by continuing to lie about the problem of Islamism. As David Frum recently wrote, ?When liberals insist that only fascists will defend borders, then voters will hire fascists to do the job liberals won?t do.? I have been saying as much for more than a decade?and am vilified by my fellow liberals whenever I do.
4. It is perfectly possible?and increasingly necessary?to speak about the ideological roots of Islamism and jihadism, and even about the unique need for reform within mainstream Islam itself, without lapsing into bigotry or disregarding the suffering of refugees. Indeed, when one understands the problem for what it is, one realizes that secular Muslims, liberal Muslims, and former Muslims are among the most desirable allies to have in the West?and, indeed, such people are the primary victims of Islamist intolerance and jihadist terror in Muslim-majority countries.
5. If liberals who refuse to speak honestly on these topics continue to march with Islamists, denigrate free speech, and oppose the work of the real reformers in the Muslim community, they will only further provoke and empower Trump. And Trump, in turn, will empower Islamists the world over by threatening the civil liberties of all Muslims within his reach.
6. The next acts of jihadist terrorism to take place on American soil will most likely be met with terrifyingly blunt (and even illegal) countermeasures by the Trump administration. If all that liberals can do in response is continue to lie about the causes of terrorism and lock arms with Islamists, we have some very rough times ahead.
7. If you are listening to obscurantists like Linda Sarsour, Dalia Mogahed, Reza Aslan, and representatives of CAIR, and denigrating true secularists and reformers like Maajid Nawaz, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Raheel Raza, and Sarah Haider, you are part of the problem.
Nothing that I have said or written about Islam, the war on terror, or even ?profiling?[1] stands in contradiction to these points.
What we need, above all, is a new center to our politics?one that defends secularism, science, and free speech against their enemies on both the Left and the Right. And now we each must choose between supporting that civilizing project or joining in the chaos to come.
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Oh man, shit's going to hit the Walkie fan if this is true.
http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2017/01/sources-report-trump-executive-order-lgbtq-community-coming-soon/
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Oh man, shit's going to hit the Walkie fan if this is true.
http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2017/01/sources-report-trump-executive-order-lgbtq-community-coming-soon/
Hopefully it will also hit the James Ford fan but I'm not counting on it....
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The most important celebrity tweet of the last 72 hours?
https://twitter.com/DaleJr/status/825535432523911168?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
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Oh man, shit's going to hit the Walkie fan if this is true.
http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2017/01/sources-report-trump-executive-order-lgbtq-community-coming-soon/
my guy, and I were just talking about this at dinner yesterday. we all knew, with mister pence in control that something such as this was going to come at some point. I do worry . . . but that is what minorities do, no matter of what type they are. We worry about how far some people take it into acceptable territories of abuse.
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They said they will keep those protections in place. But who knows WTF will happen when Sessions is in power.
I am so fucking angry today. Fuck all these people who voted for this fucker. And fuck all the Republicans who said they would stand up and are now groveling at his feet.
I realize at some point I will have to channel this anger and frustration so I don't go completely crazy, but damn. I mean damn. Way to go assholes.
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I just heard Justice Kennedy is going to retire this year???
I hope this is not true as that could likely be very upsetting to the Supreme Court balance..
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Also, fuck everyone who couldn't just be an adult and vote for Hillary.
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And fuck them for putting her up as a candidate when they knew she was divisive (despite being the most qualified).
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They said they will keep those protections in place. But who knows WTF will happen when Sessions is in power.
I am so fucking angry today. Fuck all these people who voted for this fucker. And fuck all the Republicans who said they would stand up and are now groveling at his feet.
I realize at some point I will have to channel this anger and frustration so I don't go completely crazy, but damn. I mean damn. Way to go assholes.
Well said.
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And fuck them for putting her up as a candidate when they knew she was divisive (despite being the most qualified).
I don't think you can condemn the Democrats for this. Nominating a divisive candidate worked just fine for the GOP. Hillary was an acceptable candidate. She made some mistakes, sure, but in the end, what criticism can you level at her? Emails? That was a Swift Boat argument. The reason she looks like a bad candidate now is because she lost. The GOP was just better at deceiving the public and making her look untrustworthy.
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The Immigration Ban is a Headfake, and We?re Falling For It
https://medium.com/@jakefuentes/the-immigration-ban-is-a-headfake-and-were-falling-for-it-b8910e78f0c5#.a61l5bzf8
I like to think the administration is just incompetent, but if it looks like a fascist duck and quacks like one...
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And fuck them for putting her up as a candidate when they knew she was divisive (despite being the most qualified).
I don't think you can condemn the Democrats for this. Nominating a divisive candidate worked just fine for the GOP. Hillary was an acceptable candidate. She made some mistakes, sure, but in the end, what criticism can you level at her? Emails? That was a Swift Boat argument. The reason she looks like a bad candidate now is because she lost. The GOP was just better at deceiving the public and making her look untrustworthy.
yeah I agree with this..
Let us remember that the one that ran the terrible campaign was Trump...the one that lost all three debates was Trump.. the one that had the horrible disorganized mess of a convention was Trump...
Unfortunately CW seems to need to resort to the "She lost so she must have been a terrible candidate" BS... She had her issues...for sure anybody in politics for decades under the spotlight will... but I think she was the most experienced best qualified candidate for president that I have seen in my lifetime... The fact that 46% of the American people voted for Trump is on them...
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Some food for thought...
https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/02/the-simple-psychological-trick-to-political-persuasion/515181/?utm_source=atlfb
The Simple Psychological Trick to Political Persuasion
Conservatives are more likely to support issues like immigration and Obamacare if the message is ?morally reframed? to suit their values.
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She made some mistakes, sure, but in the end, what criticism can you level at her?
She, or the people she hired to run her campaign, didn't think electorally enough.
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so trump spoke on the first day of black history month... guess how well that went:
Donald Trump just gave a Black History Month speech about the persecution of Donald Trump
https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2017/02/01/donald-trump-just-gave-a-black-history-month-speech-about-the-persecution-of-donald-trump.html
People Are Seriously Concerned About Whether President Trump Knows Who Frederick Douglass Is
https://www.buzzfeed.com/tanyachen/mr-president-who-is-frederick-douglass
in case you want to watch the shitshow: https://www.facebook.com/nbcnightlynews/videos/10155093775148689/
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She made some mistakes, sure, but in the end, what criticism can you level at her?
She, or the people she hired to run her campaign, didn't think electorally enough.
Probably true...
I think Comey did her in... one has to think if he only affected 1 out of 100 voters in PA/MI/WI to vote for Trump or withhold their vote for Hillary or not bother to show up to vote for Hillary or whatever.. well that was more than the margin of difference...
Do I think Comey affected 1 out of 100 voters in those states.. you bet..
However, it is true that it need not have come down to that...
Free trade is a complex issue...it is hard to know exactly how to have handled it better.... certainly she made some missteps but compared to Trump...
My personal belief is that her campaign had tons and tons of polling from PA and some from MI which showed them to be comfortably in the lead.. and they were trying to expand the map instead of consolidate those states...in the last few days things shifted.. Comey was a big part of it...suddenly you found Hillary and Obama in Michigan.. and Hillary closed in Pennsylvania.. they knew they had a problem but by then it was too late...
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Comey did her in? Wait, I thought it was me and Sam Harris. ;D
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Comey did her in? Wait, I thought it was me and Sam Harris. ;D
No, what you do is set it up for Trump to do the things he does by stating Islam and muslims are the problem... when a terrorist attack happens and you start joking about "How much do you want to bet his name is Muhammad?" even before the person has been identified you lend your voice to that group that thinks the problem are muslims....as opposed to "us" it is "them".. when you do that yes you better believe you are making it possible for Trump to discriminate against "them" for "us"...
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Best thing on twitter at the moment
https://twitter.com/TrumpDraws
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I'm not sure which is funnier...
The story of Trump's call with the Australian president, or this?
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/president-trump-attend-national-prayer-breakfast/story?id=45203891
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I am not understanding the meme movement anymore. like when you said, in that other thread, i'm bored of this conversation. that, is how I feel about memes, now.
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How can you be over memes
I just think memes are current day parodies....
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Most memes are dumb and worthless, but dickbutt will endure forever
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realistic dickbutt is horrifying though
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dickbutt forever
gd right
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realistic dickbutt is horrifying though
True that.
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I may be taking a sabbatical from this thread.. i'm just overwhelmed by it all....waking up this morning to read that Trump is now picking fights with Australia of all places....australia?? are you frickin' kidding me?
He has turned out to be even worse than my worst fears.. remember all that stuff about how the system would contain him.. his advisers would contain him.. he wouldn't really be able to do any of this crazy stuff? guess what? he's doing it all at the same time...
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I may be taking a sabbatical from this thread.. i'm just overwhelmed by it all....waking up this morning to read that Trump is now picking fights with Australia of all places....australia?? are you frickin' kidding me?
He has turned out to be even worse than my worst fears.. remember all that stuff about how the system would contain him.. his advisers would contain him.. he wouldn't really be able to do any of this crazy stuff? guess what? he's doing it all at the same time...
As my Trump supporting sister-n-law said "What's wrong with praying for Arnold?"
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Those motherfuckers.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/white-house-considering-order-on-religious-freedom-that-critics-warn-could-lead-to-discrimination/2017/02/02/631ea41a-e8ee-11e6-bf6f-301b6b443624_story.html?hpid=hp_rhp-top-table-main_religiousfreedom-255pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.026705dc1438
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As usual, Ayaan is spot on.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-immigration-ban_us_58933c0de4b070cf8b80d970
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As usual, Ayaan is spot on.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-immigration-ban_us_58933c0de4b070cf8b80d970
i'm pretty sure that everyone agrees that terrorists of all flavors, including those that claim to be muslim, should be fought and defeated.
the problem with trump's ban is that is doesn't stop "radical islamic terrorism", it stops EVERYONE who happens to be muslim.
there are plenty of christians who commit horrible crimes - why don't we stop the immigration of all christians? even those who aren't practicing christians, just happen to be born to a christian family, were baptized and have a christian name?
oh, right, because punishing the 99.999% to get the bad 0.001% (all the while turning the 99.999% against you, decreasing its share) is stupid.
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this is a fascinating read:
The Data That Turned the World Upside Down (https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/how-our-likes-helped-trump-win)
How Our Likes Helped Trump Win
remember back before the election, how we thought trump's campaign was ill-prepared for the realities of a presidential campaign? per this article, we believed that because we were operating in an old paradigm. trump was being out-spent on advertising, in fact he wasn't spending at all on TV ads - that's because he didn't need to. he was micro-targeting. the days of one-size-fits-all messaging is over.
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with a shout-out to this board's resident DSM fanboy, julian:
Here?s what?s psychologically wrong with Donald Trump
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/01/27/1625715/-Here-s-what-s-psychologically-wrong-with-Donald-Trump
more:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/01/28/1626451/-Diagnosing-a-Tyrant
aaaaaaaand now the counter-argument:
This Doctor Nailed The Problem With Diagnosing Donald Trump With Mental Illness
http://www.refinery29.com/2017/01/138691/donald-trump-mental-illness-point-twitter
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He can't just be diagnosed as an asshole who is also a sexual predator?
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He can't just be diagnosed as an asshole who is also a sexual predator?
That describes quite a few men. One needs to be more specific than that.
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Whoa whoa whoa
As a card-carrying member of the sexual predator asshole club, I take offense that Trump would be lumped in with us. We're awful, terrible, disgusting, vile, handsome people, but we're no Trumps.
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relaxer, does hank belong to the club? or is just part of douchnozzles anonymous?
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(apparently rollins said this regarding the whole trump thing we're caught up in)
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Rollins is just a big nerdy dork. I love the guy, but he's fucking nuts.
I love the fact that he's published like two dozen books all with the same message of "I hate people and communicating and I wish everyone would leave me alone but please buy my books first"
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sorry you feel like it's a douchnozzle comment to name drop Woody Mellor
I do think that strumer and the boys from Garageland were a little different
While I hate myself for saying it (because of my reverence for them)
the sex pistols were KPOP and I'll admit it
but until I listend to the clash, I didn't give two shits about political things
My personal expeirence with them changed my perspective on I've been questioning authority ever since
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the sex pistols were kpop?
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I think its a great quote from Rollins...
the song Know Your Rights really has been playing in my head for weeks....
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http://theslot.jezebel.com/someone-is-paying-strangers-online-to-beg-for-betsy-dev-1791976320
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So is the U.S. morally superior to Russia?
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US has a bunch of killers.
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Trump is president despite not winning the popular vote and DeVos is Secretary of Education with a tie breaker.
Wow, just wow.
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I hope she doesn't fuck up my kids education...they have a good thing going right now..
lets face it the Republican Party is garbage.... lets cut the bullshit about trying to work with them or understand them...only two republican senators were willing to vote against confirming a completely unqualified individual bent on destroying the public education system... how sad..
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Watch it burn
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U.S. Falls to 36th in Latest World Education Rankings (http://www.takepart.com/article/2014/01/22/united-states-world-education-rankings)
U.S. places 28th in Global School Rankings (http://www.bbc.com/news/business-32608772)
U.S. Education - 41st in Math, 24th in Reading, 25th in Science among Developed Nations (http://www.businessinsider.com/pisa-worldwide-ranking-of-math-science-reading-skills-2016-12)
U.S. 17th in Global Education Rankings (http://www.ibtimes.com/us-17th-global-education-ranking-finland-south-korea-claim-top-spots-901538)
U.S. lags Slovenia, Poland, Vietnam, and more than 20 other countries overall (http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2013/12/03/248329823/u-s-high-school-students-slide-in-math-reading-science)
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gosh lookin at that list I see a few people i might have hoped voted no... but the truth is the Republican party wants to destroy public education.. so why be surprised I guess..sad times but we must realize this need not have happened and make sure we don't let our guard down again.. all that talk about how hillary and trump were the same.... how we ("We" as in the American people) didn't like either one.. how we'd have to pick the least worst of two evils... how crazy was that? What were people thinking? The difference is ASTRONOMICAL.....
I am really astounded to see the contrast in America between the two sides..its almost like civilization vs. barbarism or something (a very famous book by Sarmiento about it in reference to Argentina.. never thought it would apply to the US).....I thought that kind of struggle was old news but here we are.. 2017... and a party that clearly wants to destroy public education is running the Executive, Legislative, Judiciary and controls most State Executives and legislatures...wow.
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U.S. Falls to 36th in Latest World Education Rankings (http://www.takepart.com/article/2014/01/22/united-states-world-education-rankings)
U.S. places 28th in Global School Rankings (http://www.bbc.com/news/business-32608772)
U.S. Education - 41st in Math, 24th in Reading, 25th in Science among Developed Nations (http://www.businessinsider.com/pisa-worldwide-ranking-of-math-science-reading-skills-2016-12)
U.S. 17th in Global Education Rankings (http://www.ibtimes.com/us-17th-global-education-ranking-finland-south-korea-claim-top-spots-901538)
U.S. lags Slovenia, Poland, Vietnam, and more than 20 other countries overall (http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2013/12/03/248329823/u-s-high-school-students-slide-in-math-reading-science)
all true..but the solution cannot be to abandon the public education system.. ..we need MORE funding and innovation (look to the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation or something) not less... these people want to argue that because public education is "failing" we should destroy it and somehow private education will make everything great..
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Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation
They've spent almost half a billion dollars promoting charter schools.
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Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation
They've spent almost half a billion dollars promoting charter schools.
is being for charter schools being against public education?
i dont' know.. i mean i'm for education and part of that must be public education..but that does not mean private schools should not exist or non-public schools should not exist...
i think we can and should have both
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Just what we need, more schools drilling religious hokum into kid's heads.
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is being for charter schools being against public education?
The public education status quo powers (NEA, AFT, NWLC, etc...) generally hate charter schools and support them only when they are essentially "magnet" schools that have no discernible difference from public schools (same teachers, same administrators, same philosophies).
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I thought the plan was to pull money from public education funding and provide vouchers to rich people to offset the cost of private / charter schools.
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is being for charter schools being against public education?
The public education status quo powers (NEA, AFT, NWLC, etc...) generally hate charter schools and support them only when they are essentially "magnet" schools that have no discernible difference from public schools (same teachers, same administrators, same philosophies).
I'm not pro NEA or any of those.. I'm pro education
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Bobby's tone on this is just.... so insane. It's also sad how many "articles" are written for Fox News with THIS exact, sarcastic tone. I GET that they are biased, but geez...
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/01/13/bobby-jindal-trump-s-pick-for-education-secretary-wants-everyone-to-get-great-education-dems-hate-her-for-it.html
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Jindal is such a loser...but many of his points are fair I think...
my main issue with this devos woman is she knows nothing or cares nothing about public education so how can she be secretary of education? but at the same time i think we have to look seriously at vouchers, school choice.. all of it.. we cannot ask people to send their kids to failing schools because "hey they will fail even more without your kids!"... most people cannot just move and if they live in an area with bad schools what are they supposed to do??? I think we should give them the option of vouchers and if they feel they can do better outside the public school system that should be up to them... why should public schools have a monopoly on the money if they suck decade after decade?
i understand the argument that if you take money out of the public school system then it will suck even more...i get it.. but surely we can explore some ways of approaching this issue rather than insisting people send their children to crap schools??
i have not studied the dc public education but it seems to me things got a lot better after all the charter schools popped up?
like i said.. i don't know that much about the issue.. but on principle i feel every American should be entitled to the money corresponding to their child's cost of public education and if they can find a better way with that money they should have options.... maybe this should only be the case for failing schools?
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having said that my two kids go to school in Arlington.. public school.. and i cannot say enough good things about our experience... but Arlington is a very very expensive county to live in...so not really what I'm concerned with
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At least we can rest assured that there won't be any grizzlies in the classroom. Unless Bearman decides to become a teacher. Even then, Devos might not allow that.
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that brings up another point I have thought about..
Men should only be allowed in schools after EXTREME VETTING and background checks and all kinds of stuff.. there are just too many men that go into teaching because they like little boys and girls... its disgusting all the stories one reads...
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I have been extremely happy with the D.C. public elementary school that my kids went to. My older one now goes to a charter school downtown and is thriving. There's been a fair amount of attrition though because this charter school is extremely difficult. Ever since he started there (5th grade) he's had at least 2 hours of homework every night.
Even my young son has had at least an hour of homework a night ever since 1st grade.
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Homework is for total LOSERS. I'm glad schools are eliminating it all across the country...
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wow, we have our own fake Donald trump. I think they are good, if done correctly.
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http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/tapper-conway-have-heated-exchanges-in-tense-interview/ar-AAmI0pR?li=AA5a8k&ocid=spartandhp
it can never be good, when the news becomes the news.
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http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/tapper-conway-have-heated-exchanges-in-tense-interview/ar-AAmI0pR?li=AA5a8k&ocid=spartandhp
it can never be good, when the news becomes the news.
these media people are so stupid...Kellyann has been playing him and the rest for months and they don't learn
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I thought the plan was to pull money from public education funding and provide vouchers to rich people to offset the cost of private / charter schools.
that 100% is the plan (although they'd also like it to go for Religious schools...well, not muslim ones)
the conservatives hate the unions and the teacher's unions are strong...so more to hate
I don't think charter schools are that bad of an idea and sometime can produce good results
but I do think this whole "starve the beast" when it's the children's future is so sad.
Also ...it's a little racist too, they don't want to pay for poor black and brown kids to get an education
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my two kids go to school in Arlington.. public school.. ... but Arlington is a very very expensive county to live in
Unfortunately that is the rub with public education and 'states rights'
it makes sure the public schools were the wealthy are are freakin' awesome
and the ones where the poor people are... suck
I didn't know until a few weeks ago...there was no department of Education until 1980!
I think part of it was, we need to have a unified approach to education, so ALL kids get a good education
but the conservatives fight that tooth and nail...again, because the peoples property tax should go to the local schools and not the poor kids on the other side of the tracks
I say this as a parent of two in Arlington schools...we have awesome public schools
that has very little to do to the Federal Dept of Education
if anything Federal rules restrict Arlington from being even better at times
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The law is the law...there is no right to an ewual education....now that we get some more strict constructionists on the court fuggedaboutit
Note this wad typed from an undisclosed remote lication...secured
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Look .. if you don't like Devos support our plan to eliminate the Department of Education..it is not that complicated people...
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Yikes...
If they don?t endorse, believe me, if you?re ever in this position, it?s never quite the same, O.K.,? Mr. Trump said. ?You can talk, but it never means the same.?
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Did you see the way we shut down Pocahontas?
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my two kids go to school in Arlington.. public school.. ... but Arlington is a very very expensive county to live in
Unfortunately that is the rub with public education and 'states rights'
it makes sure the public schools were the wealthy are are freakin' awesome
and the ones where the poor people are... suck
I didn't know until a few weeks ago...there was no department of Education until 1980!
I think part of it was, we need to have a unified approach to education, so ALL kids get a good education
but the conservatives fight that tooth and nail...again, because the peoples property tax should go to the local schools and not the poor kids on the other side of the tracks
I say this as a parent of two in Arlington schools...we have awesome public schools
that has very little to do to the Federal Dept of Education
if anything Federal rules restrict Arlington from being even better at times
Well if the people in Oklahoma or Mississippi want shitty schools, let them have them.
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Some good food for thought.
http://www.businessinsider.com/democrats-immigration-trump-2017-2
Democrats are lost on immigration-and they'd better rethink their ideas to beat Trump
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http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/tapper-conway-have-heated-exchanges-in-tense-interview/ar-AAmI0pR?li=AA5a8k&ocid=spartandhp
it can never be good, when the news becomes the news.
When Conway was asked why Trump hasn't said a thing about Quebec City she responds "He doesn't need to respond and tweet about everything"...
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she responds "He doesn't need to respond and tweet about everything"...
I wish that she would share that with him directly
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she responds "He doesn't need to respond and tweet about everything"...
I wish that she would share that with him directly
I do not tweet about everything just the important things.. thanks to twitter I'm able to directly communicate with the American people and bypass the lying liberal media...very democratic...I'm able to frame the discussion on whatever issue I want... really, its genius and I may need to get a cut in Twitter or something... I'm doing excellent work for them while at the same time working for the American people...
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Boo! Not enough! Exclamation! Points!
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what an asshole
SEE YOU IN COURT, THE SECURITY OF OUR NATION IS AT STAKE!
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SEE YOU IN COURT, THE SECURITY OF OUR NATION IS AT STAKE!
I was hoping for something more....impeachable.
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People are so stupid!! The travel ban will go to the Supreme Court and be struck down but when there is a terrorist attack people will say I was right trying to protect us!
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wow
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People are too busy with "memes"!!! Kellyann and Steve helped pull off biggest political upset in world history!!! Nobody thought I could win!
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People are too busy with "memes"!!! Putin and Comey helped pull off biggest political upset in world history!!! Nobody thought I could win!
FTFY, if you're going to attribute it to individuals...
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^^^^ uncanny.
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read an interesting commentary (in paste magazine of all places) that there is NO point in every trying to convince a trump voter of the hypocrisy of the thing Trump and his gang does. It is an argument that can not be won
Yes, yes, it?s hypocrisy. Of course it?s hypocrisy. No shit it?s hypocrisy. But to scold conservatives in righteous disbelief and wait for them to own up to their contradictions is to fundamentally misunderstand the nature of politics in America today. It was always bullshit, and it was obvious bullshit. If we?re still talking about it like we expect them to experience an epiphany, we are wayyyy behind the curve. An enormous part of our country makes its political decisions based on emotion and hatred and prejudice, not cold hard reason, and that won?t change no matter how many times you bludgeon them over the head with their monumental inconsistencies.
This is the old adage made manifest?lower yourself to fight on their level, and they?ll beat you with experience.
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who makes up these questions for polling...
-And finally only 18% of voters think it's acceptable to punch a Nazi in the face, to 51% who say it's unacceptable and 31% who are unsure on the moral quandary of our times. Clinton and Trump voters are actually in alignment on this with only 18% of each saying it's ok to punch a Nazi. 78% of Jill Stein voters though say that they are pro punching a Nazi, this may be where Hillary fell short.
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Bernice King (Daughter of MLK & Coretta Scott King) posted this and it's been going around
I think it's great
1. Don't use his name; EVER (45 will do)
2. Remember this is a regime and he's not acting alone;
3. Do not argue with those who support him--it doesn't work;
4. Focus on his policies, not his orange-ness and mental state;
5. Keep your message positive; they want the country to be angry and fearful because this is the soil from which their darkest policies will grow;
6. No more helpless/hopeless talk;
7. Support artists and the arts;
8. Be careful not to spread fake news. Check it;
9. Take care of yourselves; and
10. Resist!
Keep demonstrations peaceful. In the words of John Lennon, "When it gets down to having to use violence, then you are playing the system?s game. The establishment will irritate you - pull your beard, flick your face - to make you fight! Because once they?ve got you violent, then they know how to handle you. The only thing they don?t know how to handle is non-violence and humor."
When you post or talk about him, don't assign his actions to him, assign them to "The Republican Administration," or "The Republicans." This will have several effects: the Republican legislators will either have to take responsibility for their association with him or stand up for what some of them don't like; he will not get the focus of attention he craves; Republican representatives will become very concerned about their re-elections.
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I like assigning his actions to Republicans.
Man I bet that'll get their goat.
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when I wake up, the first thing I do is grab for a device, and read the news. it is sad, I guess, but it is a nice way to wake up I feel. and every time, as the device is allowing me to press it until I arrive at the first news site of my choice, and I do also love that moment when you randomly decide which site to start with, I always think the same thing . . . I wonder what Donald Trump and his gang has done today.
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I like assigning his actions to Republicans.
Man I bet that'll get their goat.
Agreed. The Paul Ryans and Mitch McConnells need to own the leader of their party.
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The slightly amended version of the King post:
Amended Post (especially related to #1 below):
Some Wise Advice Circulating:
1. Use his name sparingly so as not to detract from the issues. I believe that everyone, regardless of their beliefs, deserves the dignity of being called by their name. However, this is a strategic tactic. While we are so focused on him we are prone to neglect the questionable policies that threaten freedom, justice and fairness advanced by the administration.
2. Remember this is a regime and he's not acting alone;
3. Do not argue with those who support him and his policies--it doesn't work;
4. Focus on his policies, not his appearance and mental state;
5. Keep your message positive; those who oppose peace and justice want the country to be angry and fearful because this is the soil from which their darkest policies will grow;
6. No more helpless/hopeless talk;
7. Support artists and the arts;
8. Be careful not to spread fake news. Check it;
9. Take care of yourselves; and
10. Resist!
Keep demonstrations peaceful. In the words of John Lennon, "When it gets down to having to use violence, then you are playing the system?s game. The establishment will irritate you - pull your beard, flick your face - to make you fight! Because once they?ve got you violent, then they know how to handle you. The only thing they don?t know how to handle is non-violence and humor."
When you post or talk about him, don't assign his actions to him, assign them to "The Republican Administration," or "The Republicans." This will have several effects: the Republican legislators will either have to take responsibility for their association with him or stand up for what some of them don't like; he will not get the focus of attention he craves; Republican representatives will become very concerned about their re-elections.
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Mr Flynn...we hardly knew ya. Honorable to fall on your sword at least
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Mr Flynn...we hardly knew ya. Honorable to fall on your sword at least
he didn't honorably fall on his sword. he was dismissed, and they let him resign because it looks better for the administration than being fired.
he wasn't dismissed because he did something illegal (the reason he should have been fired, and would have been in any other presidency). no, he was given the boot because he was disloyal. the message is clear: "you can do illegal shit, and you can lie about it to the public (in fact you probably should!) - you just can't lie to us."
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Mr Flynn...we hardly knew ya. Honorable to fall on your sword at least
he didn't honorably fall on his sword. he was dismissed, and they let him resign because it looks better for the administration than being fired.
he wasn't dismissed because he did something illegal (the reason he should have been fired, and would have been in any other presidency). no, he was given the boot because he was disloyal. the message is clear: "you can do illegal shit, and you can lie about it to the public (in fact you probably should!) - you just can't lie to us."
Hutch here: THank you. EXACTLY RIGHT.
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When you have millions of grown, educated adults who believe in: virgin births??winged horses??talking snakes??angels??djinns??a sky daddy with a "chosen people" to live in a chosen piece of real estate??a man living inside a fish??a worldwide flood avoided by a wooden boat built by a 900 year old man who loaded it with one pair of each animal species (the marine species somehow weren't acknowledged)??resurrections??and the idea that taking a knife to your completely healthy baby boy's genitals is a good idea because a psychotic man named Abraham (who almost killed his own son because he heard voices in his head) circumcised himself with two rocks (yep)...
...it's no wonder that fake news works.
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https://twitter.com/SopanDeb/status/831924048716300288/photo/1
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https://twitter.com/DannyDutch/status/831575882972196864
"No one is safe from PM Steal Yo Girl!"
click the first image, scroll forward, then wait for it... wait for it... BOOM.
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https://twitter.com/DannyDutch/status/831575882972196864
"No one is safe from PM Steal Yo Girl!"
click the first image, scroll forward, then wait for it... wait for it... BOOM.
Oh my god thank you so much for this
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Listening to Trump talk is really annoying. He speaks as if he's still campaigning. He repeats himself and goes off on tangents seemingly with every talking point. He also never really SAYS much. This press conference was just an extended Twitter rant.
It's... so embarrassing.
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It's... so embarrassing.
there's an article for that: The Embarrassment of President Trump (http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-embarrassment-of-president-trump)
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Chris Christie, time . . . bitches.
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are we tired of winning yet?
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He doesn't even know how journalism works.
HE IS INSANE.
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Will you just look at this shit
https://action.donaldjtrump.com/mainstream-media-accountability-survey/?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=GOP_surveys_Mainstream-Media-Accountability-Survey&utm_content=021617-media-survey-djt-jfc-a-a-hf-e&utm_source=e_a-a (https://action.donaldjtrump.com/mainstream-media-accountability-survey/?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=GOP_surveys_Mainstream-Media-Accountability-Survey&utm_content=021617-media-survey-djt-jfc-a-a-hf-e&utm_source=e_a-a)
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26. You know what uranium is, right?
1. It's a thing called nuclear weapons
2. Other things like lots of things are done with uranium
3. including some bad things
4. 306 electoral votes, folks
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Will you just look at this shit
https://action.donaldjtrump.com/mainstream-media-accountability-survey/?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=GOP_surveys_Mainstream-Media-Accountability-Survey&utm_content=021617-media-survey-djt-jfc-a-a-hf-e&utm_source=e_a-a (https://action.donaldjtrump.com/mainstream-media-accountability-survey/?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=GOP_surveys_Mainstream-Media-Accountability-Survey&utm_content=021617-media-survey-djt-jfc-a-a-hf-e&utm_source=e_a-a)
Now THAT is some push-polling bullshit.
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Will you just look at this shit
https://action.donaldjtrump.com/mainstream-media-accountability-survey/?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=GOP_surveys_Mainstream-Media-Accountability-Survey&utm_content=021617-media-survey-djt-jfc-a-a-hf-e&utm_source=e_a-a (https://action.donaldjtrump.com/mainstream-media-accountability-survey/?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=GOP_surveys_Mainstream-Media-Accountability-Survey&utm_content=021617-media-survey-djt-jfc-a-a-hf-e&utm_source=e_a-a)
that is horrifying.
"Do you believe that the mainstream media has reported unfairly on our movement?" movement? seriously?
"(Select as many that apply.)" they learned good.
they complain about bias, yet those questions don't even pretend to not be leading, biased, etc.
and once you complete the survey, they immediately hit you up for a donation (minimum named amount: $35, but "other" is available too).
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2017/02/15/james-comeys-behavior-looks-worse-and-worse/?utm_term=.5c6868a5ca8c
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Trump's pick to replace Flynn turns him down.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/02/16/trumps-pick-to-replace-michael-flynn-as-national-security-adviser-turns-down-offer-people-familiar-with-decision-say/?hpid=hp_no-name_hp-breaking-news%3Apage%2Fbreaking-news-bar&tid=a_breakingnews&utm_term=.34f2210f6c69
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Will you just look at this shit
https://action.donaldjtrump.com/mainstream-media-accountability-survey/?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=GOP_surveys_Mainstream-Media-Accountability-Survey&utm_content=021617-media-survey-djt-jfc-a-a-hf-e&utm_source=e_a-a (https://action.donaldjtrump.com/mainstream-media-accountability-survey/?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=GOP_surveys_Mainstream-Media-Accountability-Survey&utm_content=021617-media-survey-djt-jfc-a-a-hf-e&utm_source=e_a-a)
that is horrifying.
I feel a little sick
I was going to fill it out, just to get a little left lean to the poll
but I couldn't even get to the end
It was like watching some sad movie
that takes place in bucolic Europe in the mid 30's
...where there is a subtle foreshadowing of a horrendous future.
I can't believe how effective this strategy of a shock and awe is
putting us into protest fatigue in just 4 fucking weeks
and blowing our collective minds in to a punch drunk stupor
I am seriously worried that we may take our eyes off the ball when a 'the future will be totally different' moment
and we walk into the next world war... with a lot of crazy actors and a lot of crazy big bombs
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Trump . . . Christie . . . meatloaf.
gurl.
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Do we see a President Pence before the end of this year?
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I keep hearing people say, this is one of those times where you will actually see a role reversal in the house and senate in two years. then they claim, that the dems will impeach. ugh . . . I hate that word, by now. what, then pence? they don't like to discuss pence, when you bring up his resume, just only dreaming on about no trump.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4aGCAkWYAE6lEb.jpg)
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I keep hearing people say, this is one of those times where you will actually see a role reversal in the house and senate in two years. then they claim, that the dems will impeach. ugh . . . I hate that word, by now. what, then pence? they don't like to discuss pence, when you bring up his resume, just only dreaming on about no trump.
dude the people saying that are the same idiots that said I President Trump could not win and the democrats would take back the house and senate... total bullshit
seriously.. don't even give that stuff any stock at this point
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I keep hearing people say, this is one of those times where you will actually see a role reversal in the house and senate in two years. then they claim, that the dems will impeach. ugh . . . I hate that word, by now. what, then pence? they don't like to discuss pence, when you bring up his resume, just only dreaming on about no trump.
If the dems take back Congress and boot Trump, Pence won't be able to accomplish much.
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Do we see a President Pence before the end of this year?
Is he more batshit religious crazy than W? Or about the same?
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Do we see a President Pence before the end of this year?
Is he more batshit religious crazy than W? Or about the same?
More by a lot.
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I keep hearing people say, this is one of those times where you will actually see a role reversal in the house and senate in two years. then they claim, that the dems will impeach. ugh . . . I hate that word, by now. what, then pence? they don't like to discuss pence, when you bring up his resume, just only dreaming on about no trump.
If the dems take back Congress and boot Trump, Pence won't be able to accomplish much.
more fantasy... people just won't learn... remember when democrats were going to take back the congress and Hillary was going to be president?
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Do we see a President Pence before the end of this year?
Is he more batshit religious crazy than W? Or about the same?
More by a lot.
He's definitely a lot more religiously crazy than W but not as crazy as many GOPers in the state houses.
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he's gay. he hides it. calls his wife mother. very, very, very, very anti gay, which only means one thing, which brings you back to the start of this post. the, end.
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Best comment in the Post: "Milo, don't tell the world you give good head when all you really do is suck at being a human being."
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The more I hear about Milo the less I want to know....
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Milo is a freak. It's difficult to know whether or not to like him or not. There, lies the genius.
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Milo is a freak. It's difficult to know whether or not to like him or not. There, lies the genius.
umm.. no..its pretty easy not to like him I think....
funny thing is this whole broohaha will make his career..
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Career. The whole, point. He's on to something.
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I'm ecstatic! It's a breath of fresh air," Judy Griffin exclaimed when I asked her about the nascent Trump presidency. "The country was going on a near-death experience collision. Political correctness was about to strangle us all."
http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/21/politics/donald-trump-republican-support/index.html
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How could you possible even consider liking him? He's one of the worst people imaginable. There is no gray area here unless you're just being whacky on the internet.
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How could you possible even consider liking him? He's one of the worst people imaginable. There is no gray area here unless you're just being whacky on the internet.
All of this is proving there are a lot of whack jobs out there.
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I'm ecstatic! It's a breath of fresh air," Judy Griffin exclaimed when I asked her about the nascent Trump presidency. "The country was going on a near-death experience collision. Political correctness was about to strangle us all."
http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/21/politics/donald-trump-republican-support/index.html
this is judy griffin...are you surprised
(http://i2.cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/170220133343-trump-republican-support---judy-griffin-super-169.jpg)
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I'm ecstatic! It's a breath of fresh air," Judy Griffin exclaimed when I asked her about the nascent Trump presidency. "The country was going on a near-death experience collision. Political correctness was about to strangle us all."
http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/21/politics/donald-trump-republican-support/index.html
this is judy griffin...are you surprised
(http://i2.cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/170220133343-trump-republican-support---judy-griffin-super-169.jpg)
Looks like a cute old lady to me....
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Cute old ladies, can kill.
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Looks like a cute old lady to me....
shaved or full on bush?
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I saw a Trump supporter the other day.. its rare you see any around here in Arlington or Falls Church.. I was in FC City checking out the library.. when I left i walked to the gas station to buy a coke.. I see a giant pickup truck with a Trump Pence sticker.. I walk by and glance at a man sitting there in the driver's seat.. he must have weighed 350 pounds.. a white obese Trump Pence supporting prick...
The fact is most Trump supporters kind of fit one's expectations... they look like shit.. they tend to be white and poor.... and they are bigots and uneducated... I realize this goes against Space's attempts to put himself out there as the smart guy who isn't a democrat or a republican but listening to both sides etc but sometimes in life you have to call them like you see them....
I will post on here when I see some gorgeous woman driving a Ferrari with a Trump Pence sticker but it coudl be a while...
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I saw a Trump supporter the other day.. its rare you see any around here in Arlington or Falls Church.. I was in FC City checking out the library.. when I left i walked to the gas station to buy a coke.. I see a giant pickup truck with a Trump Pence sticker.. I walk by and glance at a man sitting there in the driver's seat.. he must have weighed 350 pounds.. a white obese Trump Pence supporting prick...
The fact is most Trump supporters kind of fit one's expectations... they look like shit.. they tend to be white and poor.... and they are bigots and uneducated... I realize this goes against Space's attempts to put himself out there as the smart guy who isn't a democrat or a republican but listening to both sides etc but sometimes in life you have to call them like you see them....
I will post on here when I see some gorgeous woman driving a Ferrari with a Trump Pence sticker but it coudl be a while...
Over 20,000 people voted for Trump in your beautiful Arlington County. Are there really that many white, poor, bigoted, uneducated people in Arlington?
http://patch.com/virginia/arlington-va/2016-election-results-heres-how-arlington-voted
With 100 percent of precincts reporting, Hillary Clinton won 91,879 votes in Arlington (75.78 percent), whereas Donald Trump won 20,155 votes (16.62 percent).
Gary Johnson won 3,816 votes (3.2 percent), and Jill Stein received 908 votes (0.8 percent). Evan McMullin received 2,586 votes (2.1 percent).
There were a total of 1,897 write-in ballots cast in Arlington.
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16% of the vote?
Yeah.. there probably are 16% of people in Arlington.. you know, 16 out of very 100 who fit such criteria
there could be exceptions i suppose but in general... yeah i would say there could be 16% of people in Arlington who fit one or the other criteria.
but it is also true that the educational level in Arlington is far higher than in most if not all places that Trump carried...
I think we have seen data on the educational level of Trump voters.. it ain't exactly PhD's!
or are you trying to argue that Trump voters are as educated as Hillary voters?
That would be a pretty untenable position I think....at least based on real you know FACTS.. now if you have adopted the alternative facts "school" of thought please let us know..
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I read something the other day that made me even more proud of Arlington.
The only Virginia county that voted against secession... I need to find out more but that is what I read.
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can't tell if it's been quiet or if I've just been burying my head in the sand for a few days
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Wow.
CPAC organizer denounces ?alt-right? as ?left-wing fascist group?
Dan Schneider, executive director of the American Conservative Union, argued at the conservative gathering that the ?alt-right? movement, which strongly backed Trump, is philosophically left-wing because it departed from his definition of conservatism.
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"Republicans cannot be gay"
duh
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can't tell if it's been quiet or if I've just been burying my head in the sand for a few days
I think it may be outrage fatigue.
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can someone start a kickstarter, to make the word gay go back to meaning happy?
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can't tell if it's been quiet or if I've just been burying my head in the sand for a few days
I think it may be outrage fatigue.
the plan... it's working!!!
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can't tell if it's been quiet or if I've just been burying my head in the sand for a few days
I think it may be outrage fatigue.
the plan... it's working!!!
the worst feeling ever
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I can see, a meme of that trump face, for far too long, in the future.
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This one is bigly fantastic.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/juliareinstein/someone-handed-out-pro-trump-russian-flags-at-cpac?utm_term=.ws3XllY1Oo#.euBxDDK9vW
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Florp
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/321049-white-house-hand-picks-select-media-for-briefing
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so really not a bad idea
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/social-media-suggests-alec-baldwin-replace-trump-at-white-house-correspondents-dinner-980041
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so really not a bad idea
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/social-media-suggests-alec-baldwin-replace-trump-at-white-house-correspondents-dinner-980041
i am so all over this.. i really hope they do it..it would be ballsy, funny and just plain great!
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Getting prepared for the wars Bannon is planning on starting.
Trump to propose 10% spike in defense spending, massive cuts to other agencies
President Trump will propose a federal budget that dramatically increases defense-related spending by $54 billion while cutting virtually all other federal agencies by the same amount, according to an administration official. The proposal represents a massive increase in federal spending related to national security, while other priorities ? especially foreign aid ? will see significant reductions.
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https://twitter.com/TrumpDraws/status/836275129604694016?s=09
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so is robert Mercer the real mastermind here....?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/feb/26/robert-mercer-breitbart-war-on-media-steve-bannon-donald-trump-nigel-farage
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The Watermark, has been reached. George W Bush is now complaining about him.
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So the stock market is doing well right now and I guess Trump gets credit for that. Or so my conserv friends say. I'm still looking for a comparable term for libtard.
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So the stock market is doing well right now and I guess Trump gets credit for that. Or so my conserv friends say. I'm still looking for a comparable term for libtard.
yes its weird... stocks at least doubled under Obama and he got no credit.. its weird how the conservative brain works... i guess they are called such because their brains conserve brain cell use or something..
the whole thing is so weird... its not as if stock market growth is the same as economic growth distributed towards the lower class and lower middle class. the "forgotten" people we keep hearing about are not likely to benefit from an increased price for let us say apple stock..but whatever works.. one of the jobs of the president is to project confidence and get everyone believing .. we shall see.
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So, Kellyanne likes to be on her knees.
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So the stock market is doing well right now and I guess Trump gets credit for that. Or so my conserv friends say. I'm still looking for a comparable term for libtard.
Idiot.
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So the stock market is doing well right now and I guess Trump gets credit for that. Or so my conserv friends say. I'm still looking for a comparable term for libtard.
Idiot.
gop-compoop.
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How about republicunt?
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How about republicunt?
^^ There's a RatBastard joke somewhere in there.
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have to say that was his most normal speech yet....but predicted some normalcy when he gave himself a C for messaging
Sound like he's going to change obmacare...bacicly coverage will be better, costs will go down and the whole problem was that you couldn't buy nationwide plans :)
He was looking right at the Dems on that one
he did get a standing O from everyone when he said that he was going to figure out drug prices out and why they are so high
Also dropping all sorts of Dem things:
Paid maternity leave
trillion in infrastructure spending (this honestly would be a great thing and would create lots of jobs for unskilled people put out by the lack of manufacturing jobs)....but you are going to pay for this with fairy dust?
I'm really tired of this "crime has spiked the most in 1 year than the last 50 years"
Have you looked at that graph, yes mathematically that is true, but crime has been going down like a roller coaster for the last 20 years..so a little uptick is almost negligible. I mean it went back up to what it was in 2014...not 1955 I just always went down so it make that stat sound really outrageous
This is such a stupid rule: "for every regulation we create, we need to remove two"
that is so easy to game it's absurd. one really has nothing to do with the other. I don't have a problem reviewing regulations and removing ones that really aren't working. but this approach isn't one adults would use
also what the heck was he talking about with Trudeau?
Really don't like the urge to just increase Military spending
Why can't we smarter with the money we spend there too
we are fighting different wars today that don't need billion dollar fighters and nuclear subs
so get the contractors off the teat and I bet you could easily find 10% there to increase funds for the millitary
and Republicans are ALWAYS talk when it comes to taking care of Vets, but when it comes to paying for it they suck
I did quite enjoy my first web search : trump joint session
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i didnt' watch.. dont' care what he said... he's said a million things.. what he has DONE so far speaks far more than what he says he is going to do..
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His ability to read a coherent if vapid speech increased my estimate of his mental age from six to eight.
The fact that he likes his steak well done with ketchup means he's never going higher than eight.
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houston, we have a problem. he's almost figured out how to be a president. or at least fake it.
sentience can't be too far off.
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Thought for sure, Sidehatch would be now known as "Drain the Swamp"
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Oprah now open to running in 2020 (http://www.marketwatch.com/story/oprah-2020-shes-not-ruling-it-out-2017-03-01)
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I was really hoping he was going to end it like this
And I am asking everyone watching tonight to seize this moment and --
Believe in yourselves.
Believe in your future.
Believe Me.
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Trump is the first president since 1897 to not own a dog.
Nuf said.
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Thought for sure, Sidehatch would be now known as "Drain the Swamp"
come on bags, I'd like to think I'm being a little creative in my choice quotes
I did think the image of the earth shifting was powerful
...thing is it meant something totally different depending on what your mindset was
Oprah now open to running in 2020 (http://www.marketwatch.com/story/oprah-2020-shes-not-ruling-it-out-2017-03-01)
this is a sad and true quote: ?I thought, ?oh, gee, I don?t have the experience. I don?t know enough,? she said. ?And now I?m thinking, ?oh!??
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I am noticing, that Trump likes to use commas in his tweets, quite often.
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A billionaire, and the U.S. president, yet... he still scotch tapes his ties.
(https://img.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_1484w/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2017/03/03/National-Politics/Images/trump18.jpg?uuid=Rpy7HAAvEeebeIJMyrlENQ)
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A billionaire, and the U.S. president, yet... he still scotch tapes his ties.
(https://img.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_1484w/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2017/03/03/National-Politics/Images/trump18.jpg?uuid=Rpy7HAAvEeebeIJMyrlENQ)
That seems like a positive to me. Gives an image of being frugal and resourceful, both good qualities that everyday Americans can admire.
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good qualities that everyday Americans can admire.
When will we stop thinking about everyday Americans and start being concerned with the number of Julian's Americans who got the vapors just looking at this?
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You're not even supposed to tuck your under-tie into the notch. He's a mess!
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considering how many other crimes against ties he's committed, seems like ScotchTapeGate is par for the course...
oh my gawd. have we become so numb to this man's insanity that we are now reduced to commenting on his fashion choices?
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You're not even supposed to tuck your under-tie into the notch. He's a mess!
"Who cares?" is the proper question, but I also say "Who says?" And are you some slave to the rules of fashion?
I am happy to say I haven't worn a tie in 10+ years.
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You're not even supposed to tuck your under-tie into the notch. He's a mess!
"Who cares?" is the proper question, but I also say "Who says?" And are you some slave to the rules of fashion?
I am happy to say I haven't worn a tie in 10+ years.
You're a walking endorsement for wearing a tie..
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(http://static.snopes.com/app/uploads/2017/02/trump-meme.jpg)
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It looks like he's wearing a.... full body diaper?
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That seems like a positive to me. Gives an image of being frugal and resourceful, both good qualities that everyday Americans can admire.
Looks like shoddy Chinese workmanship for Trump Clothier.
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What a prick
http://www.thefader.com/2017/03/13/sean-spicer-facist-apple-store-video
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What a prick
http://www.thefader.com/2017/03/13/sean-spicer-facist-apple-store-video
that is what I thought..unbelievable
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https://twitter.com/DannyDutch/status/831575882972196864
"No one is safe from PM Steal Yo Girl!"
click the first image, scroll forward, then wait for it... wait for it... BOOM.
And now they're dating:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/15/theater/justin-trudeau-ivanka-trump-broadway-come-from-away.html
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Liar liar pants on fire
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Hey Hutch, how you liking Comey now?
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I hate Comey and always will .. he is a piece of shit...and i hope one day to tell him that in person..
fool me once shame on you.. fool me twice shame on me... but you see.. you can't fool me twice..
Comey is a disgrace..nothing he says at this point will undo the fact we are here today because of his unprecedented interference...
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How does this thread ever fall off the first page?
http://time.com/4710456/donald-trump-time-interview-truth-falsehood/
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cause we've given up....and its like preaching to the choir..boring.. people are sick of it
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Bill Maher is really on point as of late, I nearly peed my pants with this line
That's the great thing about having tiny hands, it's easier to pull stuff right out of your ass.
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That's some artful deal making there, Trumpy.
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The only thing Trump wanted in this shitshow was for a bill, any bill, to pass, no matter what it said. And it didn't matter what it said because he didn't read it and didn't care what it did. All he wanted was to be able to say, look at what I did. The master businessman couldn't even sell parkas to eskimos who voted dozens and dozens of times to request parkas (i.e. repeal Obamacare).
Can you imagine what tax reform is gonna be like?
(https://media.giphy.com/media/7uGFLUZEqxO9O/giphy.gif)
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And immigration?
(https://media.giphy.com/media/R8JaPcCfB6AI8/giphy.gif)
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And the middle east
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-hVoMCN7rIBs/U9awxXvY4SI/AAAAAAABj9o/N_Q4c52G2jA/s1600/AAAAAA1385779913511.gif)
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AHCA.
TAN: Paul Ryan's Career
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7tquN1VQAAJPgM.jpg)
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That's fake but goddamn I wanted it to be true so bad.
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Some "art of the deal".. President who wants to repeal Obamacare couldn't make deal with his own party that wants to repeal Obamacare...to repeal Obamacare
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Some "art of the deal".. President who wants to repeal Obamacare couldn't make deal with his own party that wants to repeal Obamacare...to repeal Obamacare
I love that he still called it a total disaster even after he couldn't get his bill passed. How BAD can his health bill be if his party won't even vote for his bill? Pretty disastrous.
Good LORD
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Some "art of the deal".. President who wants to repeal Obamacare couldn't make deal with his own party that wants to repeal Obamacare...to repeal Obamacare
I love that he still called it a total disaster even after he couldn't get his bill passed. How BAD can his health bill be if his party won't even vote for his bill? Pretty disastrous.
Good LORD
not that I'm defending trump...but it was Ryan's bill
it's the house the brings the bill's to the floor and the president to sign
he did get behind it, but it's easy for him to say 'I didn't write that"
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I totally understand that, but he was harping on it for literally months. He's very quick to back off and say "I had nothing to do with this." I'd feel bad for everyone he's thrown under the bus if they all didn't help him get elected. Cocks.
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He put his weight behind this bill but the 'Master Negotiator' couldn't sell it to his own team. Every account of the health care fiasco describes Trump as having zero idea what the bill even did. All he did was give pep talks about how important it was to pass the bill, he never made a single argument for why this bill was a good idea.
Contrast this with Barry being all in on Obamacare, traveling the country, consulting with both parties, making televised speeches about it.
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All he did was give pep talks about how important it was to pass the bill, he never made a single argument for why this bill was a good idea.
So, you're saying he HillaryCampaign'ed it.
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Ha! ^
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He put his weight behind this bill but the 'Master Negotiator' couldn't sell it to his own team. Every account of the health care fiasco describes Trump as having zero idea what the bill even did. All he did was give pep talks about how important it was to pass the bill, he never made a single argument for why this bill was a good idea.
Contrast this with Barry being all in on Obamacare, traveling the country, consulting with both parties, making televised speeches about it.
That's all true but I bet Trump has the better golf swing.
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(https://thepowerdrive.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/mr-burns.jpg)
All I can think of
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Well played, CNN, well played.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2841/32913107713_9af6c0d827_h.jpg)
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(http://img.wennermedia.com/620-width/r1284_fea_trump_c-f7bf1130-30f0-4329-961a-ec1e83b473ac.jpg)
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(http://img.wennermedia.com/620-width/r1284_fea_trump_c-f7bf1130-30f0-4329-961a-ec1e83b473ac.jpg)
"she said is was only this big, but i assured here it was twice as much."
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(https://static01.nyt.com/images/2016/03/03/sports/04CANDIDATES/04CANDIDATES-master768.jpg)
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Drain the swamp, indeed (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/04/01/86-percent-of-trump-counties-make-less-in-a-year-than-27-trump-staffers-are-worth/?hpid=hp_rhp-top-table-main_trumpcounties-1213pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.591c8c55220d)
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Don...You are president. NO ONE cares about the debates and what was said.
Donald J. TrumpVerified account @realDonaldTrump Apr 3
Did Hillary Clinton ever apologize for receiving the answers to the debate? Just asking!
love the addition of "just asking!"
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calgon take me away
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Donald Trump?s White House can?t even organize the Easter Egg Roll
http://www.salon.com/2017/04/11/donald-trumps-white-house-cant-even-organize-the-easter-egg-roll/
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He sure can drop gigantic fucking bombs tho
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Having attended a previous Easter Egg Roll, I can say with confidence that this is a horrible event in every way imaginable, even when well-organized, and kids never have much fun, and I hated it therefore I am right.
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My wife "won" tickets to this for Monday. We have a 14 month old. I have tried to tell her it will be horrible. I imagine lines upon lines. Can you elaborate on how bad it is so I can possibly get out of this. Thanks.
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I went when I was a kid and my mom still has those eggs somewhere in her house. I was a kid so I don't recall much being terrible. I remember there was a lot of commemorative eggs though! Thanks Bill!
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I went during Obama's second term, so A) maybe they were tired of doing it, and yet B) you'd think they would have their act together.
We waited for HOURS to get in and once we got through the first checkpoint, it was a total clusterfuck to get onto the grounds. We never saw Obama, the staff/handlers treated us like cattle entering a slaughterhouse, and literally nobody had a good time. I can't begin to imagine why you'd bring a 14 month old to this.
It also hurt because I remember the day we went was very hot, and by the time we got in, we were all cooked and grumpy.
If you need a talking point, let me say that the #1 reason I am now divorced is because of that Easter Egg Roll at the White House.
(That's a lie but whatever)
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I also imagine protesters at this point to add to the fun. Thanks for the input.
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Bannons refusal to let Trump host the annual Passover Seder is telling.
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A 14-month-old will not remember a damn thing about it.
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I know. It's pretty much for a picture on the White House lawn for social media I believe.
We are also no longer going after discussing this. Thanks Relaxer.
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I know. It's pretty much for a picture on the White House lawn for social media I believe.
We are also no longer going after discussing this. Thanks Relaxer.
If your wife wants lines after lines for social media pictures I definitely recommend the Kusama exhibit. Plenty of lines, but you'll get better selfies for sure.
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I'll need to check that out. Since i took a half day off we are now going to Old Town for a nice lunch instead.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9dMSv7XoAARDeM.jpg)
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^damn that's some comedy gold
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another one of trump's advisors is on the downswing... either he's a liar, or a cynic:
'Infowars' host Jones disputes persona in custody dispute
The right-wing radio host and conspiracy theorist Alex Jones is a performance artist whose true personality is nothing like his on-air persona, according to a lawyer defending the "Infowars" broadcaster in a child custody battle.
Attorney Randall Wilhite said at a pretrial hearing in Austin last week that evaluating Jones based on his on-air comments is like judging Jack Nicholson based on his role as the Joker in "Batman."
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/infowars-host-jones-disputes-persona-in-custody-dispute/ar-BBzWxGp
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fuckin lolz
http://www.salon.com/2017/04/20/heres-sarah-palin-kid-rock-and-ted-nugent-visiting-donald-trumps-white-house/
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so what is funny exactly? he's headed to a second term... he's going to beat sanders..
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Is Bernie really our only candidate?
I liked and like Bernie well enough, but we need someone with more than rhetoric and with ideas that can, if not reach across the aisle than at least fire up and unite the party. Also, not to be ageist but how old is too old?
I've been telling people semi-facetiously that I think we need a youngish strong Latino candidate to draw out a solid block vote. Alternately I did like Cory Booker right after his DNC speech, but he kind of tainted himself up there with the prescription drug vote.
Also, is no one going to bring up little trump's affinity for football proper vs. American football?
https://www.yahoo.com/style/barron-trump-plays-soccer-puma-212859370.html (https://www.yahoo.com/style/barron-trump-plays-soccer-puma-212859370.html)
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This whole Jason Chaffetz thing is so weird. First news was that he won't run for re-election. Now some people are whispering/speculating that he will resign as early as tomorrow. But that's just speculation.
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This whole Jason Chaffetz thing is so weird. First news was that he won't run for re-election. Now some people are whispering/speculating that he will resign as early as tomorrow. But that's just speculation.
Have you seen that a PAC that supposedly represents him has bought up a lot of Chaffetz 2028-related domains? Dude is planning a Presidential run 11 years out?
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This whole Jason Chaffetz thing is so weird. First news was that he won't run for re-election. Now some people are whispering/speculating that he will resign as early as tomorrow. But that's just speculation.
Have you seen that a PAC that supposedly represents him has bought up a lot of Chaffetz 2028-related domains? Dude is planning a Presidential run 11 years out?
I guess he figures he'll be out of jail at about that time.
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Maybe he figures Trump will lose next election and the Democratic president will have two terms.
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If he genuinely leaves office in the next couple of days, he's hiding something. I just don't see him leaving his seat -- especially with Obamacare repeal back on the agenda -- and being branded a 'quitter' unless there's something being held over his head. Look at how much criticism Palin got when she quit the governorship after her 2008 run. Something's up.
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So 11 years is the statue of limitations for...something?
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I think the question we're all afraid to ask is: is Chaffetz transitioning to walrus? I'm hearing there is a growing number of powerful men in DC who are transitioning to walrus right now.
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goo goo goo joob
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fuckin lolz
http://www.salon.com/2017/04/20/heres-sarah-palin-kid-rock-and-ted-nugent-visiting-donald-trumps-white-house/
Is this payback for Obama having Jay Z and Beyoncé in the white house?
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Alternately I did like Cory Booker right after his DNC speech, but he kind of tainted himself up there with the prescription drug vote.
I thought Booker was the guy but due to his vote I don't know about him anymore...
I think Sanders is too old but he's going to run.. he doesn't think he's too old and that is all that counts..... the real question is whether Biden will run.. if he were to run it would be a real heavyweight rematch between the progressive wing and the more establishment wing of the democratic party..... of course both of them would be close to 80!!!
I just can't see anybody muscling in on Biden and Sanders if that were to be the scenario... if things broke exactly perfectly Hillary could make another run but I don't see it... Al Franken is probably my own favorite but I don't see it at this point....
Even if Biden ran Sanders has to be considered the strong favorite... there are millions of people who believe he is Jesus or something...
I am extremely traumatized by the whole recent democratic primaries...and can't talk about it without getting very angry.
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Is Bernie really our only candidate?
Gavin Newsom or Elizabeth Warren (who I bumped into at DCA last week....no security detail)
I did like Cory Booker
I like him a lot too...just not sure on the national stage
but he is one smooth talker and I love his policies
Al Franken is probably my own favorite but I don't see it at this point....
I love this guy and sharp as tack ...made out of titanium
The right always loves to pick him apart for his comedian past, but he could run circles around most of those douche-bags when it comes to policy and actually knowing what is going on in the world/country
Not sure....but honestly he'd make a great president
I just don't think he could get out the vote
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I fear that the country is not San Francisco unfortunately!
the Cory Booker vote referred to above disqualifies him for me..
Elizabeth Warren... what is the hype with her? Her speech at the Convention which should have been her shining moment was ATROCIOUS... Trump will eat her for breakfast before he washes her down with Sanders...
If Hillary couldn't do it we won't see a female president in our lifetime sidehatch.. not unless we live to be so old we won't know it anyways... this is one sexist country...
I'm all in for Franken if he even hints at running in the primaries...He has has the smarts, wit and ability to think quick on his feet to take on Trump...and at least he won't be near 80 which Trump will also be...
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Argentine president Macri at White House right now with Trump and wives...answering questions..
unfortunately Trump called Macri a "great president"..
what do you do when you agree with Trump? I guess even a stopped clock is right twice a day
ugh.
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Exclusive: Trump says he thought being president would be easier than his old life (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-100days-idUSKBN17U0CA)
nobody knew being president was so hard?
"I loved my previous life, I loved my previous life. I had so many things going," Trump told Reuters. "I actually, this is more work than my previous life. I thought it would be easier."
Then, later: "I do miss my old life. This -- I like to work. But this is actually more work."
http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/28/politics/donald-trump-100-days/index.html
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Exclusive: Trump says he thought being president would be easier than his old life (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-100days-idUSKBN17U0CA)
nobody knew being president was so hard?
"I loved my previous life, I loved my previous life. I had so many things going," Trump told Reuters. "I actually, this is more work than my previous life. I thought it would be easier."
Then, later: "I do miss my old life. This -- I like to work. But this is actually more work."
http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/28/politics/donald-trump-100-days/index.html
I think it's ok that he thinks that, but that he says that out-loud drives me bonkers
I can't believe he thought that running the USofA would be easier than running trump enterprise
what a douche bag
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(https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2017-05/1/10/asset/buzzfeed-prod-fastlane-03/sub-buzz-17121-1493649472-4.png?downsize=715:*&output-format=auto&output-quality=auto)
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-05-03/drunken-driving-suspect-gives-her-name-as-hillary-clinton
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http://resistancereport.com/class-war/happy-asshole-health-coverage/
Look at this happy asshole as he scoots back from a fully-insured surgery to repeal your health coverage
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I"d rather not.. I'm in some pain today...
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Donald Trump Misses Driving (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-05-04/donald-trump-misses-driving-so-would-you-if-you-owned-his-cars)
(https://assets.bwbx.io/images/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/i8aMSc4S7woE/v0/800x-1.jpg)
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_KsH0uUIAAtGE4.jpg)
I had to shrink the map so that it would fit.
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https://twitter.com/yashar/status/861109570059599873 (https://twitter.com/yashar/status/861109570059599873)
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https://twitter.com/yashar/status/861109570059599873 (https://twitter.com/yashar/status/861109570059599873)
wrong thread?
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https://twitter.com/yashar/status/861109570059599873 (https://twitter.com/yashar/status/861109570059599873)
wrong thread?
Nope. There's a gargantuan correlation between Muslim bashing and voting for Trump.
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I love that word, gargantuan; it makes me think of spiders.
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https://twitter.com/yashar/status/861109570059599873 (https://twitter.com/yashar/status/861109570059599873)
wrong thread?
I thought it fit.
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Kids don't lie
you're a disgrace to the world (https://www.facebook.com/will.johnson.5496/videos/1524700874209775/)
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(http://akns-images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/201747/rs_648x648-170507073834-648-martha-stewart-donald-trump-snoop-dogg-050617.jpg)
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@nixonlibrary (https://twitter.com/NixonLibrary/status/862083605081862145)
FUN FACT: President Nixon never fired the Director of the FBI
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the news these last few weeks is absolutely horrendous.
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http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/10/politics/donald-trump-henry-kissinger/index.html
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the news these last few weeks is absolutely horrendous.
but we're all just sitting back and taking it
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the news these last few weeks is absolutely horrendous.
but we're all just sitting back and taking it
it is a democracy last time i checked.. save your money and get ready to actively fight for what you believe in at the midterms
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I didn't read the article, but I love the headline
Calling My Representative Wasn?t Enough, So I Fucked His Wife (http://reductress.com/post/calling-my-representative-wasnt-enough-so-i-fucked-his-wife/)
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I didn't read the article, but I love the headline
Calling My Representative Wasn?t Enough, So I Fucked His Wife (http://reductress.com/post/calling-my-representative-wasnt-enough-so-i-fucked-his-wife/)
I feel like this belongs in the Relaxer rebirth thread.
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Also, I haven't read the Economist Interview yet, but it seems to be getting rave reviews:
Donald Trump Tries to Explain Economics to The Economist. Hilarity Ensues. (http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/05/trump-explains-economics-to-the-economist-hilarity-ensues.html)
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#heladogate
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So, as a human race . . . how long, do we allow North Korea, to keep doing this. They, are going to start us down a path, we can't walk,back from.
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Trump, thinks exercise is bad for you. He, does indeed, represent this country.
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Inside Russia's Social Media War On America (http://time.com/4783932/inside-russia-social-media-war-america/)
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This one is sadly funny in too many ways to count.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/toby-keith-donald-trump-saudi-arabia_us_591db4cfe4b034684b0a23ff
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^men only concert with the artist who's penned such Islamic classics like ?I Love This Bar,? ?Drunk Americans? and ?I Like Girls That Drink Beer.?
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Bro country is totally gross
Yuck
But it will work well at this event
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Looks like Sheriff David Clarke?s ?army? medals might be B.S. (http://www.salon.com/2017/05/19/sheriff-david-clarke-medals-army/)
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The Orb?
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(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4176/34428178370_5e91db90bd_c.jpg)
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Sometimes I Think Donald Trump Is In a FemDom Relationship (http://www.thestranger.com/slog/2017/05/22/25158608/sometimes-i-think-donald-trump-is-a-femdom-relationship)
the fake news lying media can't make up their dishonest minds... at inauguration, she was a victim of an abusive relationship. now she's the one in charge?
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in my long list of reasons why the Argentine Pope is the best thing that has happened to the Vatican in my lifetime...
after DT presents this over the top and somewhat gaudy (who has a book shelf that can accommodate that>!?)
books from Martin Luther King. I think you'll enjoy them. I hope you do
lets be clear...DT is not a reader and probably isn't a fan of MLKs writings...so this was almost a gag gift
that his gift for Donald was a signed copy of ?Laudato Si?
just a print out, wasn't even bound or anything
(http://static2.businessinsider.com/image/5925920834911bd5008b60cb-2000/rtx37cf7.jpg)
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(who has a book shelf that can accommodate that>!?)
(https://i.giphy.com/pzarRhPZKvjOg.webp)
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Trump, shoves another leader so he can be in the center of the photo. A Montana GOP candidate attacks and body slams a reporter for asking a simple question, and then wins the election. Yeah, sounds about right for America.
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26 Coptic Christians murdered. Sounds about right for Egypt.
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Macron Out-Trumps Trump in Handshake Duel (https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-05-25/macron-out-trumps-trump-in-handshake-duel-before-nato-summit)
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26 Coptic Christians murdered. Sounds about right for Egypt.
Aww, does someone need a hug from jesus and, half a beer? Maybe you can go hike some trail and visit a brewery, then tell every,one all about it.
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Far Cry 5: 'Mercia - Doomsday Prepper edition: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kdaoe4hbMso
seems about right for this day and age
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Witnesses: Man Cut the Throats of Two MAX Passengers Who Tried to Stop Anti-Muslim Bullying of Women on Northeast Portland Train (http://www.wweek.com/uncategorized/2017/05/26/witnesses-man-on-northeast-portland-max-train-cut-the-throats-of-two-men-who-tried-to-stop-anti-muslim-bullying-of-women-passengers/)
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Out of step: G7 leaders take a stroll, Trump takes a golf cart
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/g7-leaders-take-a-stroll-but-trump-takes-a-golf-cart-hhprv8r7b
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Witnesses: Man Cut the Throats of Two MAX Passengers Who Tried to Stop Anti-Muslim Bullying of Women on Northeast Portland Train (http://www.wweek.com/uncategorized/2017/05/26/witnesses-man-on-northeast-portland-max-train-cut-the-throats-of-two-men-who-tried-to-stop-anti-muslim-bullying-of-women-passengers/)
Is it, wrong of me to live by the motto, don't ever get involved? Good Samaritans, can equal a deadly charity, in the blink of an eye.
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drain the swamp, then re-fill it with even worse:
Trump Exempts Entire Senior Staff From White House Ethics Rules (http://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-exempts-entire-senior-staff-from-white-house-ethics-rules)
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Weather.com home page trollin' the orange man.
(https://img9.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/25133/2513391934998de486bf850897fbea40c71cb840.jpg)
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Witnesses: Man Cut the Throats of Two MAX Passengers Who Tried to Stop Anti-Muslim Bullying of Women on Northeast Portland Train (http://www.wweek.com/uncategorized/2017/05/26/witnesses-man-on-northeast-portland-max-train-cut-the-throats-of-two-men-who-tried-to-stop-anti-muslim-bullying-of-women-passengers/)
Is it, wrong of me to live by the motto, don't ever get involved? Good Samaritans, can equal a deadly charity, in the blink of an eye.
Depends if you're a giant fuckin' puss or not.
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looks like Bloomberg will be paying for the Paris climate change at the UN
http://money.cnn.com/2017/06/02/news/michael-bloomberg-trump-paris-climate/index.html
one of the few republicans I actually like...
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looks like Bloomberg will be paying for the Paris climate change at the UN
http://money.cnn.com/2017/06/02/news/michael-bloomberg-trump-paris-climate/index.html
one of the few republicans I actually like...
He is not a Republican.... by any measure I can think of....I guess he is nominally a Republican because he used the Republican Party banner to become Mayor of NYC but I mean look at him on issues...
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looks like Bloomberg will be paying for the Paris climate change at the UN
http://money.cnn.com/2017/06/02/news/michael-bloomberg-trump-paris-climate/index.html
one of the few republicans I actually like...
He is not a Republican.... by any measure I can think of....I guess he is nominally a Republican because he used the Republican Party banner to become Mayor of NYC but I mean look at him on issues...
I know that...I just like to say that I don't hate all republican politicians ...just most of them
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looks like Bloomberg will be paying for the Paris climate change at the UN
http://money.cnn.com/2017/06/02/news/michael-bloomberg-trump-paris-climate/index.html
one of the few republicans I actually like...
He is not a Republican.... by any measure I can think of....I guess he is nominally a Republican because he used the Republican Party banner to become Mayor of NYC but I mean look at him on issues...
I know that...I just like to say that I don't hate all republican politicians ...just most of them
Name some Republicans that you don't hate. Better yet, name some Republican positions you agree with.
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Md. boy draws GOP elephant defecating on Trump's head, receives 100 percent on assignment
http://www.fox5dc.com/news/local-news/259568749-story
(http://static.lakana.com/media.fox5dc.com/photo/2017/06/07/DumpTrumpOutOfOffice2_1496880259476_3439689_ver1.0_640_360.jpg)
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(https://scontent-sjc2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/19105692_1782148631806140_431616998232412078_n.jpg?oh=a57a6beb132d8211f4c9fd9740329bb0&oe=59DD4BAC)
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of course violence is not the answer..
but I can empathize with a sense of outrage and utter powerlessness but not the violence....... like what is somebody to do? the president and his party literally keep beating up on those that disagree with no respect for the constitution, democracy or anything....
sometimes i feel it is better to just ignore it all for right now.... let him overplay his hand...but some of the stuff he is doing is just so bad..its hard not to become enraged..President Obama did some very good things..to see this sad sack of shit undoing them all- in many cases for no good reason other than petty vindictiveness- makes me sad..
the opening towards Cuba for example..was long long overdue...the only people he is going to hurt are those that were running small businesses in Cuba to benefit from US tourism... the people that run the place will be dandy
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I know of all the things to focus on ...Cuba, come on man
can't imagine that breaks the top 500 most important things facing Americans (other than a loud contingent in S FLA)
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I made the mistake of looking at the pizzagate hash tag on twitter and conspiracy theory regarding Comet Ping pong pizza continues to cycle out of control.. It's amazing what people without critical thinking skills can weave together from illegally obtained info..
Glad to hear this guy got convicted for 4 years today..
what an idiot
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so basically things are like they were before the election after six months of the Trump surreality show..week after week we are told about how Trump just had his worst week yet.. how he might even resign or be impeached..drama drama drama..he made this mistake that mistake and the other mistake... how can this go on? can it go on? It can't go on!..he's going down.....polls tell us his approval rating (just like his favorability rating was before the election) is at "historical lows"...he is dragging down the entire Republican Party we're told.. they won't be able to hold the house (before)/we'll take over the house in the midterms (now).... and yet, just like with the general election the Republicans are winning...they've won the four elections we've seen since the general... and newsflash to those who conveniently choose to blame Hillary Clinton for Trump's win in 2016.. Hillary has not been on the ballot in any of those ...yet we've lost them all..even ones where democrats pumped in a ton of money (just like democratic supporters did with Hillary who outspent Trump by large amounts) yet on the democratic side there is this widespread perception that he can't possibly be reelected... many think he can't even make it to the general election..many argue it won't even matter cause he will be impeached long before... by a Republican controlled Senate? That is just not going to happen...
My belief is that the democratic party is too focused on certain issues that simply do not resonate with large swathes of the American electorate.. for example, standing up for the rights of illegal immigrants is a LOSER..there are other similar issues that while I happen to agree with the democratic party simply do not carry weight with a majority of the American people..we can argue about why that is but it is what it is...I think the democratic party needs more focus on issues that are not related to discrimination, the rights of illegal immigrants, the environment, etc etc.. of course these issues are critical but if the perception is that they are our bread and butter issues and all we talk about we will keep losing while Trump continues to tell people he is the number one jobs creator ever made by God... and if we focus on a daily basis on this meeting between someone in the Trump campaign and the Russians we will also lose... people just don't care or i should say, we need some people who don't care about those issues to find a reason to vote D.... if we want to do something.. what WE want about racism, discrimination, immigration, the environment, Russia.. then we have to win elections and those issues are LOSERs by themselves... ....unfortunately..it is not enough...Hillary relying on those issues plus "He's crazy!" even with vast more amounts of money was not enough...I don't think it will be enough in the future either..barring some calamity which I hope does not come to pass it is highly likely that Trump will be reelected..
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so basically things are like they were before the election after six months of the Trump surreality show..week after week we are told about how Trump just had his worst week yet.. how he might even resign or be impeached..drama drama drama..he made this mistake that mistake and the other mistake... how can this go on? can it go on? It can't go on!..he's going down.....polls tell us his approval rating (just like his favorability rating was before the election) is at "historical lows"...he is dragging down the entire Republican Party we're told.. they won't be able to hold the house (before)/we'll take over the house in the midterms (now).... and yet, just like with the general election the Republicans are winning...they've won the four elections we've seen since the general... and newsflash to those who conveniently choose to blame Hillary Clinton for Trump's win in 2016.. Hillary has not been on the ballot in any of those ...yet we've lost them all..even ones where democrats pumped in a ton of money (just like democratic supporters did with Hillary who outspent Trump by large amounts) yet on the democratic side there is this widespread perception that he can't possibly be reelected... many think he can't even make it to the general election..many argue it won't even matter cause he will be impeached long before... by a Republican controlled Senate? That is just not going to happen...
My belief is that the democratic party is too focused on certain issues that simply do not resonate with large swathes of the American electorate.. for example, standing up for the rights of illegal immigrants is a LOSER..there are other similar issues that while I happen to agree with the democratic party simply do not carry weight with a majority of the American people..we can argue about why that is but it is what it is...I think the democratic party needs more focus on issues that are not related to discrimination, the rights of illegal immigrants, the environment, etc etc.. of course these issues are critical but if the perception is that they are our bread and butter issues and all we talk about we will keep losing while Trump continues to tell people he is the number one jobs creator ever made by God... and if we focus on a daily basis on this meeting between someone in the Trump campaign and the Russians we will also lose... people just don't care or i should say, we need some people who don't care about those issues to find a reason to vote D.... if we want to do something.. what WE want about racism, discrimination, immigration, the environment, Russia.. then we have to win elections and those issues are LOSERs by themselves... ....unfortunately..it is not enough...Hillary relying on those issues plus "He's crazy!" even with vast more amounts of money was not enough...I don't think it will be enough in the future either..barring some calamity which I hope does not come to pass it is highly likely that Trump will be reelected..
Very well said but what issues do you think would be winners for the Dems?
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White House Warns Reporters Not to Report on Instructions About Not Reporting on Thursday’s Press Conference (http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/06/22/white_house_press_conference_no_camera_notice_is_not_reportable_white_house.html)
"The difference between reality and fiction? Fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy
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when it comes to cheeto I think its really important to get outraged and mobilized about the important stuff... the "health care" bill is important.. whether he holds a special meal to observe the end of Ramadan or what have you is not. Changing the tax code to favor the wealthy at the expense of everybody else is important...an increased focus on deporting people in this country illegally is not...scatterbrained unfocused foreign policy with respect to our allies and enemies is important...the fact somebody many months before Trump became Cheeto met with some Russian official or press conferences is not.. if we don't focus on the important stuff and provide an attractive and coherent alternative to the American people Cheeto will be in office for a long time...
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it comes down to...
you can't make people care, who don't care
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I can't believe it's not better
(http://image-store.slidesharecdn.com/d9e1de4c-0497-4d32-a5fc-7478b2ac9954-original.jpeg)
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DELP_aNUQAAgB80.jpg)
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our tough negotiator really showed Putin!!!!!!!
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video is worth watching..
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-09/did-trumps-g20-performance-indicate-us-decline-as-world-power/8691538
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEbSl45WAAE138A.jpg)
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Hillary Clinton now viewed less favorably than Donald Trump (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-18/finally-a-poll-trump-will-like-clinton-even-more-unpopular?srnd=157009252)
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Manafort Was in Debt to Pro-Russia Interests, Cyprus Records Show
Financial records filed last year in the secretive tax haven of Cyprus, where Paul J. Manafort kept bank accounts during his years working in Ukraine and investing with a Russian oligarch, indicate that he had been in debt to pro-Russia interests by as much as $17 million before he joined Donald J. Trump’s presidential campaign in March 2016.
The money appears to have been owed by shell companies connected to Mr. Manafort’s business activities in Ukraine when he worked as a consultant to the pro-Russia Party of Regions. The Cyprus documents obtained by The New York Times include audited financial statements for the companies, which were part of a complex web of more than a dozen entities that transferred millions of dollars among them in the form of loans, payments and fees.
continued: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/19/us/politics/paul-manafort-russia-trump.html
i'm tired of this clown-car called the trump presidency already... how much longer before the wheels fall off?
(took 10 months for nixon to resign...)
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Trump ain't ever resigning....forget about it.. the only hope is for democrats to win big in the midterms and I'm not sure that is looking so good..
He is one dirty "president"...that is for sure
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This is how this country and politics works. He'll be a horrible president. He'll get reelected. And in 20 years from now, everyone will realize how horrible he actually is and was and why didn't they do something when they could but they didn't.
Then, they'll do it all over again.
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This is how this country and politics works. He'll be a horrible president. He'll get reelected. And in 20 years from now, everyone will realize how horrible he actually is and was and why didn't they do something when they could but they didn't.
Then, they'll do it all over again.
Maybe he'll start painting and people will develop a soft spot for him.
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POTW
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http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/politics/blog/bs-md-trump-baltimore-20170719-story.html
Trump upset upon learning Rod Rosenstein is from Baltimore
(except he's not....)
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(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20245755_722255071299495_9113786455463542281_n.jpg?oh=c89db6ec877cfd88ab924b106eaffaec&oe=59F6FE97)
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Spicer out, Scaramucci in. (http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/21/politics/sean-spicer-resigns-anthony-scaramucci/index.html)
But will he do the fandango?
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I've met The Mooch a couple of times (we're in the same line of work). The dude is a sleaze. His salesmanship is beyond compare, but I counted my fingers after each handshake.
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Trump IS GOING TO BAN all transgender people from serving in the military in any capacity.. WTF
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Trump banned all transgender people from serving in the military in any capacity.. WTF
I don't believe that is accurate
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/07/26/trump-no-transgender-individuals-military/511858001/
...series of morning tweets, Trump said that, after consulting "with my generals and military experts," the U.S. government "will not accept or allow transgender individuals to serve in any capacity in the U.S. Military."
The U.S. military, he said, "must be focused on decisive and overwhelming victory and cannot be burdened with the tremendous medical costs and disruption that transgender in the military would entail."
How was my statement not accurate?
I know an official ban has not happened but still...
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Trump IS GOING TO BAN all transgender people from serving in the military in any capacity.. WTF
Is this Better, Loves?
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I didn't see the quote until now. I stand corrected.
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No word on what to do about the ~15,000 transpeople already serving.
Also, this is his way of distracting us from paying attention to the healthcare debate.
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You all are burying the lead: he ended his tweet announcement with "thank you" instead of "you're welcome". He's . . . learning?
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lede
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lede
PWNT.
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Led Zeppelin
FTFY
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I, for one, look forward to the ascension of President Pence in 2018.
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I, for one, do not. fucking anti gay, in the closet fuckhead, who caters to only the religious right, living in a bubble tomb of 1950 all over again. Trump is a bad president, because he is stupid, doesn't know what he is doing, and is just looking for ways to get richer. Pence, will be a bad president, because he we immorally fuck you long and hard, without lube or even protection. and just wait until, we are all pregnant with satan's baby.
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Pence is scary but I think he would be a huge improvement..
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As far as general chaos, Pence would be an improvement. As far as individual's rights/social issues (the general stuff Walkie is talking about), Pence is the "Hold my beer" meme compared to Trump. And he'd actually get things done because he isn't a policy/legislative imbecile like Trump.
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Trump IS GOING TO BAN all transgender people from serving in the military in any capacity.. WTF
This is clearly a diversion for some big Trump news that is about to come out. Any guesses?
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I am not so sure it is a diversion....seems to me perfectly in line with his governing plan.. undo every item Obama had anything to do with and keep his wacko base happy.. he has consistently been doing this..
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Maybe he's prepping his base in case healthcare fails. He'll still have a "success" to flaunt this weekend.
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Pence is scary but I think he would be a huge improvement..
It depends on what you mean by a huge improvement. Trump is a stupid petulant 7 year old whose commitment to anything, including the truth, shifts every 5 seconds. If he had any semblance of competency or intelligence, he could have helped the GOP Congress pass repeal and replace, he could've led the way in tax reform, and he could've cast all kinds of shade on the Democrats. Instead it's been one lurching crime scene after another.
And I agree 100% with herman otto's last post -- Pence would have us back in the straight white 50s where husbands call their wives "mother" and sleep in separate rooms.
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Well that is one way to look at it I guess...
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Pence would be all kinds of bad, and much more effective at his badness. But I think it could be a bigger threat that our standing in the world is plummeting, no world leader has any trust in Trump to remain loyal as they witness how he turns on his own inner circle (but for family, of course), and I think there is a real chance at international upheaval caused by our current leader's insanely thin skin and fragile narcissism, which needs stroking at every turn.
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Trump IS GOING TO BAN all transgender people from serving in the military in any capacity.. WTF
This is clearly a diversion for some big Trump news that is about to come out. Any guesses?
I'm going to guess Sessions gets fired on Friday.
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Hillary Clinton now viewed less favorably than Donald Trump (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-18/finally-a-poll-trump-will-like-clinton-even-more-unpopular?srnd=157009252)
There is not one bit of this story that matters in the least. Hillary is roaming the woods in Duchess County. Who cares if she has a 5% approval rating? This is as nonsensical as the winner of the election STILL absolutely obsessed with his win, explaining his win, disparaging his opponent. She's not a politician anymore, she's a citizen. I bet ya I have a lower approval rating than Trump too. Put that poll up, that'll make Trumpsters feel great.
Okay, the only bit of "news" is the raging battle in the Dem party between Hillaryites and Bernieheads. And they can be hateful and dismissive of each other, which is frustating when what the party needs most is unity and development of a solid message and platform. Sure, the Dem party needs to get its shit together. That has nothing to do with Asshat 45.
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I've met The Mooch a couple of times (we're in the same line of work). The dude is a sleaze. His salesmanship is beyond compare, but I counted my fingers after each handshake.
Friend of mine who must also be in your line of work said similar; some love him, some hate him, he's a sleaze, but the best used car salesman you'll come across. Mini-Trump, though I assume he's much brighter.
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I bet ya I have a lower approval rating than Trump too. Put that poll up, that'll make Trumpsters feel great.
Speak for yourself: Julian's Q score for likability remains through the roof.
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I bet ya I have a lower approval rating than Trump too. Put that poll up, that'll make Trumpsters feel great.
Speak for yourself: Julian's Q score for likability remains through the roof.
oh I don't know Jules I don't think you could handle the truth of a real poll on this board
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I bet ya I have a lower approval rating than Trump too. Put that poll up, that'll make Trumpsters feel great.
Speak for yourself: Julian's Q score for likability remains through the roof.
oh I don't know Jules I don't think you could handle the truth of a real poll on this board
See, you say that but it's awfully suspicious that the "powers that be" that want to push an anti-Julian narrative are the same people who will not activate the Poll function. Meanwhile, I have been a staunch supporter of open and free polling for years. Maybe I'm not the one with something to hide.
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McCain. ...HUEVOS
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Mooch's wife just left him. God, this is just a never-ending saga. I'd love watching it if actual people weren't being deported or at risk of losing their health care or suffering abuse from racist white assholes.
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Mooch's wife just left him. God, this is just a never-ending saga. I'd love watching it if actual people weren't being deported or at risk of losing their health care or suffering abuse from racist white assholes.
guess he'll have to talk with bannon about learning to suck his own dick...
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Priebus is out. Kelly in...
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Priebus is out. Kelly in...
Holy shit, for a second I read that and thought "oh my god, he named Kellyanne as his CoS? That is just perfect."
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Priebus is out. Kelly in...
PRIEBUSLY, IN THE WEST WING
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I can't trust a man named Reince.. what a hideous name (no offense meant to any Reinces on this board)
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but seriously one has to wonder.. Reince and Spicer where the two RNC guys.. he put them there in a way to placate the party... "Look I put your boys in.. you see.. I am a Republican!"... they've now been shitcanned badly ..
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ICYMI: John Popper is a piece of shit (http://www.thedailybeast.com/john-popper-from-blues-traveler-will-not-stop-posting-aerial-pictures-of-my-house)
WARNING: Contains frightening pic of John Popper
ICYHFAWWBYFDS (in case you have forgotten and who would blame you for doing so): John Popper is the singer from Blues Traveler
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/07/31/anthony-scaramucci-out-white-house-communications-director/526300001/
PE@CE
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God, this is just a never-ending saga. I'd love watching it if actual people weren't being deported or at risk of losing their health care or suffering abuse from racist white assholes.
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/07/31/anthony-scaramucci-out-white-house-communications-director/526300001/
PE@CE
What in all the hell is going on in the white house
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/07/31/anthony-scaramucci-out-white-house-communications-director/526300001/ (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/07/31/anthony-scaramucci-out-white-house-communications-director/526300001/)
PE@CE
Easy come, easy go, will you let me go?
Bismillah! No, we will not let you go. (Let him go!)
Bismillah! We will not let you go. (Let him go!)
Bismillah! We will not let you go. (Let me go!)
Will not let you go. (Let me go!)
Never let you go (Never, never, never, never let me go)
Oh oh oh oh
No, no, no, no, no, no, no
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/07/31/anthony-scaramucci-out-white-house-communications-director/526300001/ (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/07/31/anthony-scaramucci-out-white-house-communications-director/526300001/)
PE@CE
Easy come, easy go, will you let me go?
Bismillah! No, we will not let you go. (Let him go!)
Bismillah! We will not let you go. (Let him go!)
Bismillah! We will not let you go. (Let me go!)
Will not let you go. (Let me go!)
Never let you go (Never, never, never, never let me go)
Oh oh oh oh
No, no, no, no, no, no, no
that's all i was hearing in my brain band last week.
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/07/31/anthony-scaramucci-out-white-house-communications-director/526300001/
PE@CE
What in all the hell is going on in the white house
*ahem*
The president said himself, just 8 hours ago, there there is "No WH chaos!"
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getting some very pleasurable schadenfreude on this news
vamoose mooch
I really don't know if my sanity could have took him as the Comm director
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Tempting to just laugh But WH makes me just wanna cry...clown show has lasting consequences....
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I really don't know if my sanity could have taken him as the Comm director
FTFY
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I really don't know if my sanity could have taken him as the Comm director
FTFY
taken out by the grammar police
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It, distracted from your point in the post, so you needed to be taken out. Kudos, kill,sally.
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who's this killsaly that everyone's always talking about?
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Nobody knows for sure...
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Nobody knows for sure...
Some say he was a figment of our imaginations!
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Nobody knows for sure...
Some say he was a figment of our imaginations!
That is probably just a rumor, much like the rumor that Julian is a shared account that members of the Richmond elite use to communicate with the masses...
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Nobody knows for sure...
Some say he was a figment of our imaginations!
That is probably just a rumor, much like the rumor that Julian is a shared account that members of the Richmond elite use to communicate with the masses...
I heard it was some MFA kids creative writing project that turned into an elaborate performance art piece!
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If it is, I for one say b,arf.
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Journey Are the Latest Proud American Institution That Donald Trump Threatens to Destroy
http://www.spin.com/2017/08/journey-donald-trump-tension/
i'm about to stop believing...
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Journey Are the Latest Proud American Institution That Donald Trump Threatens to Destroy
http://www.spin.com/2017/08/journey-donald-trump-tension/
i'm about to stop believing...
this is all about Jonathan Cain who is a bit of a religious wacko and Schon battling.....you know, Cain, the guy who plays the cheeze keyboards and wrote a lot of the ballads..
kind of funny that schon's new wife is the one that infiltrated the white house dinner a few years ago.. remember? now he could have gotten invited but i guess they knew he'd put the kibosh on it cause he's probably still liberal.. he started out in the san francisco scene in the late 60s.. people don't realize journey has its roots back then..
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he started out in the san francisco scene in the late 60s.. people don't realize journey has its roots back then..
It's even more interesting than that: Journey was a space jazz rock spin-off of Santana.
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he started out in the san francisco scene in the late 60s.. people don't realize journey has its roots back then..
It's even more interesting than that: Journey was a space jazz rock spin-off of Santana.
but he does look like a card carying member of julian's america...with this post amid his disgust
@NealSchonMusic
Yes but the new Lambos have 0 problems
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he started out in the san francisco scene in the late 60s.. people don't realize journey has its roots back then..
It's even more interesting than that: Journey was a space jazz rock spin-off of Santana.
yiseree
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In the fourth grade, I lived and gay breathed, me some Journey.
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Trump rally on the National Mall. It's too early for me to come up with something snarky to say, but y'all fire away.
https://www.motherofallrallies.com/
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Hasn't even happened yet and they've already got a picture of the turnout.
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Hasn't even happened and they've already got a picture of the turnout.
+1
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The MOAR(an) Team reads like a Who's Who of American nobodies.
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Under Street parking and parking garages: "Your two best bets for parking in DC are parking garages and street parking." ;D
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Redneck America is the last stop for pop culture: check out all the gang signs in the photo gallery at the bottom.
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And those flashing the white power hand signal:
(https://img1.wsimg.com/isteam/ip/9fe9e0ce-0371-4570-a586-cf7526560da5/0e44fd05-b4e8-4b73-b5e7-b1886302dd4a.jpg/:/rs=w:400,h:500,cg:true,m/cr=w:800,h:500,a:cc)
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The New Yorker:
(https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5995dffeeb92df6e44724457/master/w_649,c_limit/CVN_TNY_08_28_17RGB.jpg)
The Economist:
(http://cdn.static-economist.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/print-cover-full/print-covers/20170819_cuk400.jpg)
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The New Yorker:
(https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5995dffeeb92df6e44724457/master/w_649,c_limit/CVN_TNY_08_28_17RGB.jpg)
The Economist:
(http://cdn.static-economist.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/print-cover-full/print-covers/20170819_cuk400.jpg)
You've just confirmed if: both are getting mounted as a set.
This has gotten really personal. (I apologize to everyone who is upset it wasn't personal before now.)
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Trump rally on the National Mall. It's too early for me to come up with something snarky to say, but y'all fire away.
https://www.motherofallrallies.com/
Wow....sponsored by Bullet-Necklace.com. Heavy, heavy hitters.
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Pro-Trump rally to commence on same day as "Juggalo" march in DC
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pro-trump-rally-to-commence-on-same-day-as-juggalos-march-in-dc/
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Pro-Trump rally to commence on same day as "Juggalo" march in DC
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pro-trump-rally-to-commence-on-same-day-as-juggalos-march-in-dc/
As I said in another thread, "it's a Sophie's Choice for shitheads."
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as I said in another thread . . . "send Julian to the free show at Nissan."
edit, nevermind:
“Despite months of having dates helds at a venue near D.C., the facility has revoked the dates reserved by Psychopathic Records last July to hold the free Juggalo March concert.. When Psychopathic attempted to schedule the concert on a different date, they were flatly told that they would NEVER be allowed to book a show at the venue on any date, presumably due to unwarrented fears of Juggalos. This decisionis telling thousands and thousands of people that they are not welcome in their community simply because they identify as Juggalos, which is a music-based subculture and nothing more. And this PRECISELY reflects the purpose of the Juggalo March – to call attention to the kind of casual discrimination, profiling, and bigotry that Juggalos face every day throughout these United States. This is why we are marching and also why we are calling upon fellow music artists, social activists, and public servants to join us at the March – because the basic civil liberties of thousands of taxpaying American citizens are being abused…simply because they listen to a certain type of music. To our Juggalo brothers and sisters, rest assured we are looking into all options to ensure a free concert following the Juggalo March on September 16 goes on as planned. Stay strong and remember…we are family, NOT a gang or public menace and don’t let anyone tell you otherwise!”
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“Despite months of having dates helds at a venue near D.C., the facility has revoked the dates reserved by Psychopathic Records last July to hold the free Juggalo March concert.. When Psychopathic attempted to schedule the concert on a different date, they were flatly told that they would NEVER be allowed to book a show at the venue on any date, presumably due to unwarrented fears of Juggalos. This decisionis telling thousands and thousands of people that they are not welcome in their community simply because they identify as Juggalos, which is a music-based subculture and nothing more. And this PRECISELY reflects the purpose of the Juggalo March – to call attention to the kind of casual discrimination, profiling, and bigotry that Juggalos face every day throughout these United States. This is why we are marching and also why we are calling upon fellow music artists, social activists, and public servants to join us at the March – because the basic civil liberties of thousands of taxpaying American citizens are being abused…simply because they listen to a certain type of music. To our Juggalo brothers and sisters, rest assured we are looking into all options to ensure a free concert following the Juggalo March on September 16 goes on as planned. Stay strong and remember…we are family, NOT a gang or public menace and don’t let anyone tell you otherwise!”
The "When Reality Reflects The Onion" thread is over there.
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From Twitter:
What is the worst clown band ever:
[ ] ICP
[ ] Slipknot
[ ] Kiss
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I always had the impression that ICP and the juggalos were anti-racist/fascist.
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(https://assets.bwbx.io/images/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/i5weACvgrMJk/v0/1000x-1.jpg)
German Police Seize Thousands of 'Trump' Ecstasy Tablets (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-08-22/german-police-seize-thousands-of-trump-ecstasy-tablets)
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(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/21083573_1435250683228939_8631253781685927434_o.jpg?oh=11bf4ac2eb98a375d861527ff50fa135&oe=5A59A059)
what's worse is trump is regretting the decision as it didn't get good ratings (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/28/us/politics/trump-finland-harvey-arpaio-russia.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur)
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Trumpsters, keeping it classy.
https://news.vice.com/story/trump-org-ethics-lawyers-wife-arrested-with-inmate-in-backseat-of-car?utm_source=vicefbus
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making America great again by putting underage children to work
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJxKW87WsAA11pw.jpg)
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making America great again by putting underage children to work
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJxKW87WsAA11pw.jpg)
Christ, I will I could get my underage child to do some chores around the house.
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The recent Bannon interview by Charlie Rose is fascinating and the best glimpse, even if not comprehensive, we have into the Trump presidency...
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The recent Bannon interview by Charlie Rose is fascinating and the best glimpse, even if not comprehensive, we have into the Trump presidency...
Give us your summary and reasoning. I'm too lazy and tired of politics to watch the video.
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On Wednesday, November 8, 2016 at the Hamilton watching Margo Price perform I decided to protest the oncoming Trump presidency by refusing to cut my hair until he is out of office.
It's been one year to the day since my last haircut and no end to his reign in sight. I guess if I can lose about 40 lbs. I might look a bit like Iggy.
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The recent Bannon interview by Charlie Rose is fascinating and the best glimpse, even if not comprehensive, we have into the Trump presidency...
Give us your summary and reasoning. I'm too lazy and tired of politics to watch the video.
now that is funny man
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On Wednesday, November 8, 2016 at the Hamilton watching Margo Price perform I decided to protest the oncoming Trump presidency by refusing to cut my hair until he is out of office.
It's been one year to the day since my last haircut and no end to his reign in sight. I guess if I can lose about 40 lbs. I might look a bit like Iggy.
Pics or it didn't happen
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MOAR turned in SORE as hundreds attend
(https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2017/09/gettyimages-847972348.jpg?quality=65&strip=all&strip=all)
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Meanwhile: https://www.avclub.com/heres-ian-mackaye-just-chilling-at-the-juggalo-march-1818516687
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https://twitter.com/TrumpDraws/status/910294419349192704?s=09
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Eminem last night @ BET Hip Hop Awards
http://www.freep.com/story/entertainment/music/2017/10/11/eminem-trump-lyrics/753038001/
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Eminem last night @ BET Hip Hop Awards
http://www.freep.com/story/entertainment/music/2017/10/11/eminem-trump-lyrics/753038001/
(https://media.tenor.com/images/220480fb63a8823d601ff69c2e8aa328/tenor.gif)
And any fan of mine who's a supporter of his,
I'm drawing in the sand a line, you're either for or against,
And if you can't decide who you like more and you're split,
On who you should stand beside, I'll do it for you with this: F--- you.
The rest of America stand up,
We love our military, and we love our country,
But we f---ing hate Trump.
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Took long enough...finally Trump started a War with Canada (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/02/opinion/trump-trade-canada-nafta.html)
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Took long enough...finally Trump started a War with Canada (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/02/opinion/trump-trade-canada-nafta.html)
I wonder how this will affect our family vacation to Alberta next summer.
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Took long enough...finally Trump started a War with Canada (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/02/opinion/trump-trade-canada-nafta.html)
I wonder how this will affect our family vacation to Alberta next summer.
ggw, let's get a running tally of how many times this vacation is mentioned between now and next summer!
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Took long enough...finally Trump started a War with Canada (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/02/opinion/trump-trade-canada-nafta.html)
Boeing is going to lose, and should, but we have been at war with Canada over softwood for decades. This is nothing new.
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Took long enough...finally Trump started a War with Canada (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/02/opinion/trump-trade-canada-nafta.html)
I wonder how this will affect our family vacation to Alberta next summer.
ggw, let's get a running tally of how many times this vacation is mentioned between now and next summer!
Can I keep a running tally of how many times you (or anybody) post in the inane "What did you just buy tickets to?" or "This Week Roll Call" threads? :P
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ggw, let's get a running tally of how many times this vacation is mentioned between now and next summer!
Some say he's still tallying to this day. . .
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Took long enough...finally Drumpf started a War with Canada (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/02/opinion/trump-trade-canada-nafta.html)
I wonder how this will affect our family vacation to Alberta next summer.
Can you go to Manitoba instead?
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/xyeddw/manitoba-red-sided-garter-snake-spring-orgy (https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/xyeddw/manitoba-red-sided-garter-snake-spring-orgy)
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Took long enough...finally Trump started a War with Canada (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/02/opinion/trump-trade-canada-nafta.html)
I wonder how this will affect our family vacation to Alberta next summer.
ggw, let's get a running tally of how many times this vacation is mentioned between now and next summer!
Can I keep a running tally of how many times you (or anybody) post in the inane "What did you just buy tickets to?" or "This Week Roll Call" threads? :P
I mean we could but, don't you think that would be boring
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Took long enough...finally Drumpf started a War with Canada (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/02/opinion/trump-trade-canada-nafta.html)
I wonder how this will affect our family vacation to Alberta next summer.
Can you go to Manitoba instead?
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/xyeddw/manitoba-red-sided-garter-snake-spring-orgy (https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/xyeddw/manitoba-red-sided-garter-snake-spring-orgy)
How about we send any boardie who is a lawyer there?
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Took long enough...finally Drumpf started a War with Canada (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/02/opinion/trump-trade-canada-nafta.html)
I wonder how this will affect our family vacation to Alberta next summer.
Can you go to Manitoba instead?
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/xyeddw/manitoba-red-sided-garter-snake-spring-orgy (https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/xyeddw/manitoba-red-sided-garter-snake-spring-orgy)
How about we send any boardie who is a lawyer there?
Excellent. Would love to go. Flights to Winnipeg are costly.
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https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/xyeddw/manitoba-red-sided-garter-snake-spring-orgy [/url]
How about we send any boardie who is a lawyer there?
Excellent. Would love to go. Flights to Winnipeg are costly.
funny, as I know challenged would LOVE to go to that , it's just a coincidence that he's a lawyer too
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Took long enough...finally Drumpf started a War with Canada (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/02/opinion/trump-trade-canada-nafta.html)
I wonder how this will affect our family vacation to Alberta next summer.
Can you go to Manitoba instead?
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/xyeddw/manitoba-red-sided-garter-snake-spring-orgy (https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/xyeddw/manitoba-red-sided-garter-snake-spring-orgy)
How about we send any boardie who is a lawyer there?
Excellent. Would love to go. Flights to Winnipeg are costly.
I don't want to turn this thread into a travel thread (though if someone started one, I'd happily participate in it), but RT flights from DCA to Winnipeg midweek for July 2018 start at $356. That's a better deal than I got for Calgary. Seems like you should go for it.
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Took long enough...finally Trump started a War with Canada (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/02/opinion/trump-trade-canada-nafta.html)
I wonder how this will affect our family vacation to Alberta next summer.
ggw, let's get a running tally of how many times this vacation is mentioned between now and next summer!
Can I keep a running tally of how many times you (or anybody) post in the inane "What did you just buy tickets to?" or "This Week Roll Call" threads? :P
I rarely post in those threads, but sounds like a potential Julian thread where he can keep track of that information.
Took long enough...finally Drumpf started a War with Canada (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/02/opinion/trump-trade-canada-nafta.html)
I wonder how this will affect our family vacation to Alberta next summer.
Can you go to Manitoba instead?
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/xyeddw/manitoba-red-sided-garter-snake-spring-orgy (https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/xyeddw/manitoba-red-sided-garter-snake-spring-orgy)
How about we send any boardie who is a lawyer there?
Excellent. Would love to go. Flights to Winnipeg are costly.
I don't want to turn this thread into a travel thread (though if someone started one, I'd happily participate in it), but RT flights from DCA to Winnipeg midweek for July 2018 start at $356. That's a better deal than I got for Calgary. Seems like you should go for it.
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god, how can anyone work with this guy, he throws everyone under the freaking bus
Ed Gillespie worked hard but did not embrace me or what I stand for.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 8, 2017
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god, how can anyone work with this guy, he throws everyone under the freaking bus
Ed Gillespie worked hard but did not embrace me or what I stand for.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 8, 2017
I think this tweet must be added to that one.
Donald J. Trump
✔ @realDonaldTrump
The state of Virginia economy, under Democrat rule, has been terrible. If you vote Ed Gillespie tomorrow, it will come roaring back!
4:12 PM - Nov 6, 2017
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What a shellacking...
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I rarely post in those threads, but sounds like a potential Julian thread where he can keep track of that information.
*awakens with slumber*
Did someone say rolling compendium?
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Why is Trump stepping in with the alleged thieves from UCLA in China? I have seen locked up abroad and recall the public shaming that is done by foreign governments. If they are guilty they should be held accountable with out government influence. This is shameful.
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Because he's an idiot who picks the stupidest battles to fight.
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Because he's an idiot who picks the stupidest battles to fight.
It's all about throwing shade on the real issues.
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If they were real members of Julian's America, these would have been Benjamin's not $1s
"Picking out wallpaper for the cognac swirling room"
The guy in the back is priceless
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Nice shiksa.
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It's almost like he's TRYING to be a douche.
https://www.facebook.com/rickygervais/photos/a.210267065764321.1073741828.209390455851982/711388655652157/?type=3&theater
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It's almost like he's TRYING to be a douche.
https://www.facebook.com/rickygervais/photos/a.210267065764321.1073741828.209390455851982/711388655652157/?type=3&theater
i'm pretty sure he doesn't need to try... he just is.
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It's almost like he's TRYING to be a douche.
https://www.facebook.com/rickygervais/photos/a.210267065764321.1073741828.209390455851982/711388655652157/?type=3&theater
i'm pretty sure he doesn't need to try... he just is.
He must have seen my post.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/11/17/trump-halts-big-game-trophy-decision/?hpid=hp_rhp-top-table-main_troph-reversal-910pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.ba4b4469109d
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I.............. I always wonder if Trump is really just deflecting things with his Twitter feed and his "feuds" with the NFL and other random, minor, and things that SHOULD be the beneath literally any fucking president or is he REALLY that petty?
I have a hard time with him thinking "Man, I need to divert attention from X to X, I'll do this real quick" he just seems too.... stupid? Idk. It just constantly baffles me the shit that he harps on... idk.
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(https://media.nbcwashington.com/images/652*367/Pharmacy+robbery+suspect.jpg)
Man in 'Make America Great Again' Robs Pharmacy for Opioids (https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Police-Search-for--458880463.html)
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So now Franken is accused of groping menz' buttocks as well.
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So now Franken is accused of groping menz' buttocks as well.
Another victory for intersectional feminism!
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Trump admin scraps Obama-era proposal requiring airlines to disclose bag fees
http://thehill.com/policy/transportation/363956-trump-admin-scraps-obama-era-proposal-requiring-airlines-to-disclose
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"Limited public benefit"
I'd love to know who talk this buffoon what "draining the swamp" means.
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Anybody else anticipating that same sick to your stomach feeling on Wed morning that we all felt 13 months ago?
He spoke after his wife, Kayla Moore, defended his commitment to diversity.
“My husband appointed the very first black marshal to the Alabama Supreme Court,” she said. “Fake news will tell you that we don’t care for Jews. One of our attorneys is a Jew.” The media, she added, needs to be “held accountable” for how it has covered the race.
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This is fucking classic.
https://mobile.twitter.com/TheLeadCNN/status/940704581742419969/video/1
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Phew...
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Anybody else anticipating that same sick to your stomach feeling on Wed morning that we all felt 13 months ago?
crisis averted, thank you alabama!
“My husband appointed the very first black marshal to the Alabama Supreme Court,” she said. “Fake news will tell you that we don’t care for Jews. One of our attorneys is a Jew.”
funniest thing i've seen about this: https://twitter.com/mattoswaltva/status/940786882492825600 (https://twitter.com/mattoswaltva/status/940786882492825600)
This is fucking classic.
https://mobile.twitter.com/TheLeadCNN/status/940704581742419969/video/1 (https://mobile.twitter.com/TheLeadCNN/status/940704581742419969/video/1)
i have re-watched this clip several times this evening... just doesn't get old.
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Anybody else anticipating that same sick to your stomach feeling on Wed morning that we all felt 13 months ago?
crisis averted, thank you alabama!
man was I happy when I woke up this morning
last thing I saw at night was that Moore was in the lead by 20k vote and was pissed
This is BIG, good for the dems...bad for Trump and the GOP
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This is fucking classic.
https://mobile.twitter.com/TheLeadCNN/status/940704581742419969/video/1
LOL WOW>
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Anybody else anticipating that same sick to your stomach feeling on Wed morning that we all felt 13 months ago?
crisis averted, thank you alabama!
man was I happy when I woke up this morning
last thing I saw at night was that Moore was in the lead by 20k vote and was pissed
This is BIG, good for the dems...bad for Trump and the GOP
Damn you go to bed early. What are you like 75?
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRpj8vsV4AE8Svm.jpg) (https://twitter.com/pixelatedboat/status/944176982782132224)
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Anybody, catch that Disney Hall of Presidents likeness of Donald Trump?
Gurrrl.
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Via Twitter:
In the East, it could be the COLDEST New Year’s Eve on record. Perhaps we could use a little bit of that good old Global Warming that our Country, but not other countries, was going to pay TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS to protect against. Bundle up!
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That is unbelievable
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Literally at a loss for words hearing that while driving home. Meant to say "he really said that?!?", but instead said "seeming what did he mean that he said?!?" I think the president has officially made me dumber. Before now my general intelligence only speculatively receding. To be fair I had also just got off a 12 hour work day. His statement is up there with saying he could shoot someone in the middle of Times Square and not lose any votes. I'm sure his flock loved it because it really got the liberals all riled up, also MAGA.
Where are we on the Idiocracy timeline? Should I at least start investing in electrolytes?
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Should I at least start investing in electrolytes?
POTW
but I think you should be in electrolytecoin instead
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34 other times Trump tweeted his ignorance about how weather works (https://earther.com/34-other-times-donald-trump-tweeted-his-ignorance-about-1821646313)
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Should I at least start investing in electrolytes?
POTW
but I think you should be in electrolytecoin instead
Yep. Brilliant line.
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The Trumps Requested to Borrow Van Gogh Painting from Guggenheim—They Were Offered a Gold Toilet Instead
The White House could soon be home to the world's most opulent commode.
In a massively bold trolling of President Donald Trump, Guggenheim chief curator to the White House Nancy Spector offered to send the first family an 18-karat gold toilet instead of their requested painting, “Landscape with Snow” by Vincent Van Gogh.
continued: https://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/trumps-requested-borrow-van-gogh-painting-guggenheim-they-were-offered-gold-toilet (https://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/trumps-requested-borrow-van-gogh-painting-guggenheim-they-were-offered-gold-toilet)
this story is pretty sweet too: https://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/donald-trump-ordered-theresa-may-end-british-protests-against-him-report
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Unbelievable
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I stayed at the same hotel where they were holding the Alfalfa Club dinner on Saturday night. Saw Jeb Bush in the lobby on Sunday am, and said "I wish it was you!" and he said "sorry?" and I said "I wish you had won the presidency".
And he waved and said "take care".
Never thought I would have actually wished a Bush had won.
Also probably good I didn't look to hard at who was in the lobby when I walked in, because if I would have seen any of those fuckers, I would have yelled at them to stop lying and give us our country back.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4539784/Even-child-Donald-Trump-horror.html
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We just could not have another Bush....i do wish Jeb and not w had been “elected” in 2000
My feeling is jeb is a good man trapped in an underwhelming family in a horrible political party representing the biggest threat to America
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Sarah Sanders: When you're attacking FBI agents because you're under criminal investigation, you're losing.
11/3/16, 3:12 pm
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Dow drops 666 points and posts its worst week since 2016 (https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/capitalbusiness/2018/02/02/cc0949cc-084f-11e8-94e8-e8b8600ade23_story.html?hpid=hp_rhp-more-top-stories_dow-250pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.fa8af29e7153)
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So that military parade idea seems pretty cool, right?
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I cannot take much more...yesterday was particularly horrible...tons of insulting stupid shit out of trump and Kelly and then the capper this parade
I did hear joe Biden at anthem and that was nice but I could not help but leave with the impression much as I would happily vote for him he is not the man for these times
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True, but he took US citizenship in 2006 and SpaceX is headquartered in California. Just saying.
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he N.R.A., which gave his campaign $30 million. At the group’s annual conference last year, Mr. Trump declared, “To the N.R.A., I can proudly say I will never, ever let you down.” (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/28/us/politics/trump-gun-control.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news)
I do say, I never would have believed that trump would not keep his word (clutching my pearls)
that's a lot of coin they gave, just wish he actually had principles and not just lack of impulse control and daddy issues
The NRA's response was classic tho While today’s meeting made for great TV...
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Mr Magoo
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Speaking about China's President Xi Jinping, who led the charge to repeal the country's term limits law last month, Trump said this:
"He's now president for life. President for life. No, he's great. And look, he was able to do that. I think it's great. Maybe we'll have to give that a shot some day."
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Speaking about China's President Xi Jinping, who led the charge to repeal the country's term limits law last month, Trump said this:
"He's now president for life. President for life. No, he's great. And look, he was able to do that. I think it's great. Maybe we'll have to give that a shot some day."
i'm... i mean, i can't.... i give up. trump has beaten me, i can't go on anymore. no matter how many times i tell myself that this isn't bottom, that he will find a way to continue the downward spiral, he still surprises me with how low he can go and how fast he can get there. openly admiring an autocrat and musing that the U.S. - the bastion of democracy - should consider it?!? how is this not treason of the constitution?!?!?
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I am not as frustrated with Trump as with the American people.... a sizable minority are acting like cult members...you cannot expect anything from President Buffoon
As long as he is a one termed president we will be ok
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As long as he is a one termed president we will be ok
I may have to lift my ban on all religious activity if this happens
problem will be...he'll start a war or we'll have a few terrorist acts right before the election
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What do you think would happen in our country and in the Press if everybody just stop talking about Donald Trump for the next 3 years and just see what happens? If we just let whatever is going to be, be, and unless something really major happens and he really f**** up, just not say another word about the man. think of all the problems and b******* and gossip crap that would go away. Wow. Think of a day or a week or a month where you never heard the name Donald Trump or anybody speaking it or anybody really talking about him or what he's doing. We live in a world where people love to talk about other people in Shady ways. And our president is the king of letting us live out that fantasy of always talking s*** about somebody else.
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What do you think would happen in our country and in the Press if everybody just stop talking about Donald Trump for the next 3 years and just see what happens? If we just let whatever is going to be, be, and unless something really major happens and he really f**** up, just not say another word about the man. think of all the problems and b******* and gossip crap that would go away. Wow. Think of a day or a week or a month where you never heard the name Donald Trump or anybody speaking it or anybody really talking about him or what he's doing. We live in a world where people love to talk about other people in Shady ways. And our president is the king of letting us live out that fantasy of always talking s*** about somebody else.
Ignorance is never bliss.
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he N.R.A., which gave his campaign $30 million. At the group’s annual conference last year, Mr. Trump declared, “To the N.R.A., I can proudly say I will never, ever let you down.” (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/28/us/politics/trump-gun-control.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news)
I really should have never gotten my hopes up
Conceding to N.R.A., Trump Abandons Brief Gun Control Promise (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/12/us/politics/trump-gun-control-national-rifle-association.html)
money talks and principles walk
I wonder what that evening dinner with the NRA was like, made him cave like very few others can
I bet they committed another 30mil+ to his 2020 campaign with an option to throw 10mill at any other campaign he wants to support before then
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(https://compote.slate.com/images/fa9c5586-f402-4da3-a5e9-6c6446786a94.jpeg?width=780&height=520&rect=2296x1531&offset=2031x774)
Slate: No One’s Sure Who the Acting Secretary of State Is (https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/03/acting-secretary-of-state-unclear-official-who-disputed-wh-fired.html)
That's the photo they used. Awesome.
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jez soo much news it is hard keeping up
John McEntee, was escorted out of the White House on Monday
The cause of the firing was an unspecified security issue
was one of the longest-serving aides to Mr. Trump, dating back to the earliest days of the campaign
So who is left of some the originals
Dan Scavino, Trump's former golf caddy
and this guy
(https://i.imgflip.com/1urr43.jpg)
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McEntee was immediately hired by the Trump 2020 campaign ...probably got a big pay raise
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and this guy
(https://i.imgflip.com/1urr43.jpg)
One of my best friend's little sisters went to Duke with him and his sexual offender abilities are Trumpian.
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One of my best friend's little sisters went to Duke with him and his sexual offender abilities are Trumpian.
I thought we weren't supposed to discuss our connections to the illuminati. Very disappointed.
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we
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Lobbyist says he was nearly killed by man he hired to investigate Seth Rich’s death (http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/lobbyist-says-he-was-nearly-killed-by-man-he-hired-to-investigate-seth-richs-death/2018/03/19/a4261e48-2baa-11e8-8688-e053ba58f1e4_story.html?utm_term=.cb1968f16e25) [edit: link fixed]
(http://peanutbutterjellytime.net/img/peanut-butter-jelly-time.gif)This shit is bananas(http://peanutbutterjellytime.net/img/peanut-butter-jelly-time.gif)
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(https://i1.wp.com/thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/gettyimages-935390922.jpg?resize=1280%2C720px&ssl=1)
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John Bolton
We are fucked
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Yeah, but we really needed some stash in the white house... the equilibrium was off
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(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/800/39166191820_5a082b677b_o.png)
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Yeah, but we really needed some stash in the white house... the equilibrium was off
wow, apparently this almost cost him the job!
what a buffoon
Trump Debated Hiring John Bolton Because of His Mustache (https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/kzxwe9/trump-debated-hiring-john-bolton-because-of-his-mustache-reports-say-vgtrn), Reports Say @vice
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new art from Jim Carrey
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DZeCOCSVwAEceG0.jpg)
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“Naturally, I was gonna be secretary of evil… but Steve Bannon got that job,” Dr. Evil said with a chuckle and a raised pinky. (https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/humor/mike-myers-dr-evil-returns-to-dish-on-his-former-employer-trump/ar-AAvv20i?)
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“Naturally, I was gonna be secretary of evil… but Steve Bannon got that job,” Dr. Evil said with a chuckle and a raised pinky. (https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/humor/mike-myers-dr-evil-returns-to-dish-on-his-former-employer-trump/ar-AAvv20i?)
i must say . . . doctor evil, still has it.
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(https://img.wonkette.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/farenthold2.png)
This guy just resigned from Congress. For sexual harassment. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2018/04/06/rep-blake-farenthold-facing-ethics-probe-abruptly-resigns/?utm_term=.1eeaf3ee795c)
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Guy has sleaze dripping from every fat pore...sometimes you really can tell
Hey I know I will tell people that work for me that I had a wet dream about them said nobody ever
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Do you guys save your Trump chatter for other more politically oriented message boards (where there is plenty of chatter for sure), or do y'all not really give a hoot anymore?
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jovod of war
@ehjovan
they better stop calling kanye “bipolar” hes just a narcissist none of my manic episodes made me a fucking republican
https://twitter.com/ehjovan/status/989231168259272705
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^ amazing ;D
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Trump for Nobel Peace Prize campaign ramping up...
I would say slim odds
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I would say slim odds
i would say BIG FAT ZERO odds. the selection committee is european. no way a group of euros can produce a majority that will reward trump.
if trump secures a denuclearized korean peninsula, then maybe. but not now. no way.
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North Korea has broken every promise it has ever made. This will be no different.
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Oh, you didn't insist on denuclearization before you agreed to meet with North Korea?
Is that maybe why no other American President has ever agreed to meet with North Korea, because that's STEP FUCKING ONE!
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forget the humblebrag:
The Trump Administration Has Mastered the Art of the ‘Grumblebrag’ (https://www.theroot.com/the-trump-administration-has-mastered-the-art-of-the-g-1826081760)
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yes these have been out for a while
I'm not saying that policy wise they are the same...but scary how much their body language is similar
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/87/ee/38/87ee38b728dbd88a6fd66d1903b67eb8.gif)
this made me chuckle too
(https://haeha.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/manson-trump.gif)
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I guess he won't be getting a Nobel after all. He really should get a Pulitzer for that beautifully written letter to Kim Jon Un!
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no, he should get a tony or an oscar, for acting...
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The former diplomat in me is both laughing and crying.....
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(http://images6.fanpop.com/image/photos/38100000/Will-Forte-as-Tim-Calhoun-in-Saturday-Night-Live-will-forte-38174052-384-327.jpg)
Get a load of this guy running for Congress in Virginia (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/report-self-described-pedophile-who-advocates-white-supremacy-is-running-for-congress/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=52476498)
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I don't like football and really don't like the eagles (and their phans)
but my god....Trump the biggest douche bag ever
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(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g16/beetsnotbeats/trumpface_zpsqjm9wgzu.jpg)
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Don’t ruin this
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i watched the caps win the Cup tonight. i was on cloud nine.
that picture not only dragged me down immediately, but is sure to haunt my nightmares tonight... thanks.
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so how long before trump makes the Caps win about him
Do you think they will attend a white house ceremony?
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They will absolutely attend with at least one exception...smith pelfey or whatever said he is not attending from what I heard
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great pop culture reference!
and too bad Bruce Arena didn't get an advance copy...
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It is going to be so great having a World Cup without the USMNT so I don't have to deal with bandwagon soccer-fan cosplayers pretending like the sport isn't utterly unwatchable shit.
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(https://i.imgur.com/sPL8Kk8.gif)
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bandwagon soccer-fan cosplayers
Not POTW material...but I like that moniker
now that relaxer post...that freakin POTW
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I hope you don't ignore the article - at least the shorter Leaders section. Quite a few gems:
“FOOTBALL is a simple game,” explained Gary Lineker, formerly the captain of England’s team. “Twenty-two men chase a ball for 90 minutes and at the end, the Germans always win.”
The Economist is looking forward to the competition, too. Not because we think the country that hosts our head office has much of a chance of winning it—we are too rational for that.
One possible reason for the failure of [the US] men’s teams is that America’s professional soccer league is a cartel. Salaries are capped, and the lower-division teams in which domestic players might develop cannot be promoted.
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So as I sometimes do, I took a lunchtime run on the Mall today.
And as is often the case, there were groups of school kids on their big DC field trips.
And as is often the case, among the teens and pre-teens are gaggles of boys (always and only boys) wearing "Make America Great Again" hats.
So my question to y'all is, it is so wrong to run up to one (or more?) of the hat wearers and knock their hat off and squirt water from my water bottle on them?"
Note: I'm not a fast runner, but I can run far.
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(https://www.washingtonpost.com/resizer/Snait41SHB6cRUl5GVa5SKeK7Mw=/1484x0/arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/R4NWDCZB3I5G7D34IS27Q5YJXE.jpg)
The G-7 summit, summed up in one photo (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2018/06/09/the-g-7-summit-summed-up-in-one-photo/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.011ec801fdb7)
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I like to imagine that if the camera pulled back, it would show that at that moment, Trump was sitting on a toilet taking a shit while the Euro leaders tried to reason with him.
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(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/de/18/12/de1812db7dfcbcfd2c459fb8ebf71745.jpg)
I also saw this on the internet and thought it was pretty appropo
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Is that from the show???
Looks identical
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/business/wp/2018/06/11/robert-de-niro-opens-a-new-front-in-the-anti-trump-culture-wars-even-some-liberals-dont-know-what-to-think/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.cc2f28e8ac66
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Trump tried to honor victims of crimes by unauthorized immigrants — by signing their portraits
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/6/22/17494608/trump-family-separation-immigration-autographs
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https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2018/06/27/milo-wants-vigilantes-start-killing-journalists-and-hes-not-being-ironic
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https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2018/06/27/milo-wants-vigilantes-start-killing-journalists-and-hes-not-being-ironic
That was the first thing I thought of as well. I am hoping that is not the case and there will be something more personal in the motive for the attack, otherwise this gets much worse.
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Looks like the shooter was once a co-worker of Rhett's.
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/06/29/us/jarrod-ramos-annapolis-shooting.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage
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Looks like the shooter was once a co-worker of Rhett's.
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/06/29/us/jarrod-ramos-annapolis-shooting.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage
I think they share the same hair stylist as well.
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Candidate uses his yacht to campaign, hits rock, requires Coast Guard rescue (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/candidate-uses-yacht-campaign-hits-rock-requires-coast-guard-rescue-n889951?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma)
The former Republican lawmaker is running as an independent and has said President Donald Trump inspired his gubernatorial run.
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is that considered a....Yacht Rock???? :P
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There's a British campaign to make Green Day's 'American Idiot' the No. 1 song when Trump arrives (https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/10/entertainment/green-day-song-trump-visit-trnd/index.html)
those pommies...
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I would have gone with "Hail to the Thief" but solid second choice.
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those pommies...
TIL
Pommy ˈpämē/
informal - derogatory
noun
plural noun: Pommies
a British person.
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although I am not really sure that his brain is connected to his mouth
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Report: Trump's Supreme Court Nominee Blames Massive Credit Card Debt On Nationals Season Tickets (https://deadspin.com/report-trumps-supreme-court-nominee-blames-massive-cre-1827529282)
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Looks like the shooter was once a co-worker of Rhett's.
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/06/29/us/jarrod-ramos-annapolis-shooting.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage
I think they share the same hair stylist as well.
Can we get a response from Space on this guy? Were you guys buddies?
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didn't you know that trump is more popular than Lincoln
British tabloid The Sun interviewed Donald Trump:
“You know, a poll just came out that I am the most popular person in the history of the Republican Party—92 per cent. Beating Lincoln. I beat our Honest Abe."
umm...I hate to give Bush II any props....
aftermath of 9/11 George W. Bush had a 90 percent overall approval rating and his popularity among Republicans was 98 percent at one point.
also...polling in the 1800s...really
I just don't understand how educated people listen to the things he says and are like 'I'm ok with him lying all the time'
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i was looking forward to seeing that balloon float majestically over london, but the reality is underwhelming... i was hoping for something much bigger.
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didn't you know that trump is more popular than Lincoln
British tabloid The Sun interviewed Donald Trump:
“You know, a poll just came out that I am the most popular person in the history of the Republican Party—92 per cent. Beating Lincoln. I beat our Honest
I hate to give Bush II any props....
aftermath of 9/11 George W. Bush had a 90 percent overall approval rating and his popularity among Republicans was 98 percent at one point.
also...polling in the 1800s...really
I just don't understand how educated people listen to the things he says and are like 'I'm ok with him lying all the time'
Ummm cause they are not educated
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For your weekend reading pleasure.....
The minority majority
America’s electoral system gives the Republicans advantages over Democrats (https://www.economist.com/briefing/2018/07/12/americas-electoral-system-gives-the-republicans-advantages-over-democrats)
The constitution was not designed for the two-party politics it unwittingly encouraged
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^depressing
even if Democrats won the national vote by six percentage points over a six-year cycle, they would probably still be a minority in both houses.
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Looks like the shooter was once a co-worker of Rhett's.
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/06/29/us/jarrod-ramos-annapolis-shooting.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage
I think they share the same hair stylist as well.
Can we get a response from Space on this guy? Were you guys buddies?
I've never heard of this idiot until the Capital Gazette shooting.
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Anybody have any doubts that after today, Trump is now king for life?
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For your weekend reading pleasure.....
The minority majority
America’s electoral system gives the Republicans advantages over Democrats (https://www.economist.com/briefing/2018/07/12/americas-electoral-system-gives-the-republicans-advantages-over-democrats)
The constitution was not designed for the two-party politics it unwittingly encouraged
As you know, the concept of that came up perhaps a little before, but it came out as a reason why the Democrats lost an election, which frankly, they should have been able to win, because the Electoral College is much more advantageous for Democrats, as you know, than it is to Republicans.
-pretty damn obvious who said this....
Obviously the hacks at the economist are putting out fake news
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Anybody have any doubts that after today, Trump is now king for life?
so much happens in the news cycle lately with Trump...you have to be more specific
(https://images.dailykos.com/images/278912/story_image/putin_trump.png?1469557913)
I have great confidence in my intelligence people, but I will tell you that President Putin was extremely strong and powerful in his denial today.
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Trump and Republicans are traitors
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Anybody have any doubts that after today, Trump is now king for life?
so much happens in the news cycle lately with Trump...you have to be more specific
(https://images.dailykos.com/images/278912/story_image/putin_trump.png?1469557913)
I have great confidence in my intelligence people, but I will tell you that President Putin was extremely strong and powerful in his denial today.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/16/politics/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-press-conference/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/16/politics/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-press-conference/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/07/16/putin-yes-trump-election-acosta-reax-vpx.cnn/video/playlists/trump-putin-summit/
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Trump and Republicans are traitors
I don't understand why Republicans would continue to go along with this. What is different about Republicans in 2018 than Republicans in the Nixon era? Do the Russians have compromising information on them as well as Trump?
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Trump and Republicans are traitors
I don't understand why Republicans would continue to go along with this. What is different about Republicans in 2018 than Republicans in the Nixon era? Do the Russians have compromising information on them as well as Trump?
That is the theory that was floated this weekend by a friend of mine
that during the primaries...senior GOP officials also worked with Russia...but at that time it was to make sure Trump didn't win
but it kinda backfired and they got stuck in the middle of this
but the prints are all over the gun...
Not sure I buy that, but makes sense as they are so willing to go to the mat for him
Why does everything go Putin’s way...
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Can we just change the name of this topic to "Maybe we should just elect Putin President" and be done with it?
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Felt like reviewing the genesis of this thread
One one hand, he and almost all of his supporters are the kind of people who are wrong about everything, have no idea what's going on, are mad for no real reason, and aren't interested in learning anything.
On the other hand, it might be fun to have a president that just yells and insults people all the time.
Relaxer called it first here in this thread...only jokingly
sept 2015...jez those were halcyon days
I do have to disagree on the fun part...it was fun in the election cycle when we thought there was no chance he could win
I know this is the conventional wisdom, but I just cannot see Trump winning the nomination. At some point, he's going to be confronted with questions about what he would actually DO as president. And even if he gets some ghost-written "positions" he's going to have a Perry moment where someone questions him on "his" positions and he'll have no idea. I mean, the guy has zero shame so maybe he can blowhard past that, but at some point, this has to catch up with him. Doesn't it? I mean, he's defied all the laws of politics for months now, but I just cannot see The Establishment allowing him to be the nominee.
And if/when he goes down, who replaces him depends on who's left. Jeb and Rubio seem like the most mainstream options but it feels like Jeb is slowly flaming out and joining Walker and Paul in the LOL category.
but even as the Primary debates were happening even he didn't think Trump had a chance
some how nothing stuck, Teflon Don for reals
I guess no one factored the Russian meddling...
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I haven't read a Thomas Friedman op-ed from start to finish in a while:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/16/opinion/trump-and-putin-vs-america.html
"From the beginning of his administration, President Trump has responded to every new bit of evidence from the C.I.A., F.B.I. and N.S.A. that Russia intervened in our last election on his behalf by either attacking Barack Obama or the Democrats for being too lax — never President Vladimir Putin of Russia for his unprecedented cyberhit on our democratic process. Such behavior by an American president is so perverse, so contrary to American interests and values, that it leads to only one conclusion: Donald Trump is either an asset of Russian intelligence or really enjoys playing one on TV."
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Trump and Republicans are traitors
I don't understand why Republicans would continue to go along with this. What is different about Republicans in 2018 than Republicans in the Nixon era? Do the Russians have compromising information on them as well as Trump?
That is the theory that was floated this weekend by a friend of mine
that during the primaries...senior GOP officials also worked with Russia...but at that time it was to make sure Trump didn't win
but it kinda backfired and they got stuck in the middle of this
but the prints are all over the gun...
Not sure I buy that, but makes sense as they are so willing to go to the mat for him
actually this theory has some legs
https://www.thedailybeast.com/russias-plan-to-buy-off-the-gop-began-before-the-rise-of-trump?ref=wrap
...as I read through the affidavit filed by the FBI agent in charge of investigating her. It was in paragraph 18, bottom of page 5, stating that Butina wrote an email to “U.S. Person 1” to suggest a plan by which she would work herself into the good graces of “POLITICAL PARTY 1.” What popped out at me was the date. She wrote this email on March 24, 2015.
Why is this significant? Because Butina, being Russian and all, is normally thought of as being associated with Trump. But on March 24, 2015, Donald Trump was a private citizen. Nobody thought he was running for president (he announced his candidacy in mid-June).
In other words: Butina, working for a prominent Russian official with whom the affidavit says she conspired on all these moves, laid out this plan to her American contact to infiltrate “POLITICAL PARTY 1”—obviously, the Republican Party—before Trump was even in the picture.
If this doesn’t inspire some soul-searching among Republicans, I don’t know what will. You can’t plead Trump on this one, Republicans. You can’t say the base drank the Trump Kool Aid, and you had no choice but to submit. Here we are staring at clear evidence that the Russians decided in or before March 2015, before Trump was remotely in the picture, that they were going to target your party, working through the NRA, and bank on your winning the 2016 election so that America would become more pro-Russian.
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wanted to post this in the 'on the eve of...' thread, but felt like that would sully that thread unnecessarily
Trump scores Own Goal (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/07/16/trump-scores-on-his-own-goal.html)
from Fox!
If Trump’s critics had scripted it, they could hardly have done better at showing him as the junior partner in the bilateral relationship. Putin was clearly in charge from beginning to end with Trump jumping in to blame America for problems Russia created and to denounce the same investigation that just offered conclusive proof of Putin’s wrongdoing in 2016.
Hearing Trump attack the intelligence and law enforcement agencies that daily do battle with Putin’s goons was so odd that we had to re-read the transcript just to be sure our ears weren’t playing tricks.
Blaming America for the misdeeds of another country is never a good look for a U.S. president abroad. For Trump, accused by his critics of being a lackey for Putin, to make excuses for the regime in Moscow in the presence of that country’s ruler was an astonishing lapse. .
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https://twitter.com/PrincessBravato/status/1019084632162070529
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came here to post this awesome photo and got caught up in the ticketbastard settlement
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figured I'd drop these too
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(https://i2.cdn.turner.com/money/dam/assets/180725133704-david-pecker-780x439.jpg)
Hey, y'all, it's Sleazebag Ned Flanders! (https://money.cnn.com/2018/07/25/media/david-pecker-american-media-inc-trump/index.html)
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also
Michael Jackson - Billie Jean ( cover by Donald Trump ) (https://youtu.be/pqm0nOUi3Qg)
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Anyone watch Bill Maher on Friday? BRUTAL.
Go away on vacation and come back to find out collusion with foreign governments is apparently legal now and the Trump cult all thinks they are the letter Q.
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Anyone watch Bill Maher on Friday? BRUTAL.
Also his bit on why the party of Regan doesn't care that we are getting cozy with the Ruskies...
it's because they are unapologetically white and they would rather hang with white Russians than consort with all these non-whites (even though for 50 years they were considered an enemy)
(https://pics.me.me/after-obama-we-re-unapologetically-white-again-gop-consolation-25588142.png)
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News from the Department of Go Fuck Yourself:
Volunteers Wanted for White House Christmas Decor, Entertainment (https://www.nbcwashington.com/entertainment/the-scene/Volunteers-Wanted-for-White-House-Christmas--490179411.html)
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News from the Department of Go Fuck Yourself:
Volunteers Wanted for White House Christmas Decor, Entertainment (https://www.nbcwashington.com/entertainment/the-scene/Volunteers-Wanted-for-White-House-Christmas--490179411.html)
Can we decorate while wearing an ITMFA shirt?
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cw1e7gzXUAAVHd-.jpg)
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Pro-Trump Fan of Social Distortion Says Lead Singer Punched Him at Concert (https://nyti.ms/2OC9LCi)
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You hold your middle finger up to Ness for 3 songs what do you expect?
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You hold your middle finger up to Ness for 3 songs what do you expect?
I wholeheartedly agree
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Uhh, that like every other adult on earth, singers for shitty bands don’t have carte blanche to punch people who flip them off?
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You hold your middle finger up to Ness for 3 songs what do you expect?
I wholeheartedly agree
guys, guys... a little intellectual honesty here, please?
you are closing your eyes to this violence because 1) you don't like trump; and/or 2) you like SD, musicians in general, dislike rowdy fans, etc. neither of these are valid reason for giving a pass on an assault.
my opinion: ness is going to jail over this.
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You hold your middle finger up to Ness for 3 songs what do you expect?
I wholeheartedly agree
guys, guys... a little intellectual honesty here, please?
you are closing your eyes to this violence because 1) you don't like trump; and/or 2) you like SD, musicians in general, dislike rowdy fans, etc. neither of these are valid reason for giving a pass on an assault.
my opinion: ness is going to jail over this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQWROgtUjlQ
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I said what do you expect? Ness is not someone you hold your middle finger up to and expect to live
I did not pass judgment one way or the other....and I have no idea what actually happened
Having said that, the law in the books and the law of the street are two different things....
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my opinion: ness is going to jail over this.
If it keeps this violent felon off the street and this terrible band from making music, then from your lips to Julian’s ears.
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my opinion: ness is going to jail over this.
Probably not jail time, but definitely probation and community service. And a hefty civil settlement.
I've seen Ness do this shtick a hundred times and somebody finally took him up on it. It's usually a little forced and awkward, and didn't use to involve Trump, but was always "anti-government/anti-establishment" and he threatens to fight someone nearly every show. I've always wished he cut it out of his act, but you know, it's punk.
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thanks . . . Obama.
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sounding like Cohen got himself a plea deal for reduced charges, that doesn't include the requirement to cooperate with the special counsel... dammit.
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sounding like Cohen got himself a plea deal for reduced charges, that doesn't include the requirement to cooperate with the special counsel... dammit.
I guess he' not paying attention to the Manafort trial. Justice is now political in America too...
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sounding like Cohen got himself a plea deal for reduced charges, that doesn't include the requirement to cooperate with the special counsel... dammit.
I guess he' not paying attention to the Manafort trial. Justice is now political in America too...
This.
A horrible day for America
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sounding like Cohen got himself a plea deal for reduced charges, that doesn't include the requirement to cooperate with the special counsel... dammit.
I guess he' not paying attention to the Manafort trial. Justice is now political in America too...
This.
A horrible day for America
I'm not sure of either of your responses...please explain for those of us who are kind of unsure how to read today's news (please hold back the condescension)
I'm concerned we are going to get hung jury in the manafort trial
Cohen is admitting guilt by plea'ing... but guess that doesn't matter to the trump crowd (a plea is innocent for them)
but won't that have some seriously sticky stuff in a case for campaign finance tomfoolery
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please hold back the condescension......
Ha
Come on the Manafort case could not be more clear and the jurors are asking what happens if they cannot agree on 1count?????
To me the only possible reading is at least one juror is politicized
And Cohen doesn’t even have to cooperate with Mueller?
Can you just imagine how Trumpists are going to react to a mistrial?
The shit Manafort has done is by all accounts so illegal and they can’t agree on one count even with Gates turning on him?
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Verdicts are in!!
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10 dropped for mistrial
Manafort found guilty on 8
I'm sure they are going to spin this with the mistrial and that's all they will talk about
So does trump pardon him prior to sentencing??
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Well that is a relief for me though I don’t know gravity of counts.,.,busy looking at relics from S S Republic
I was getting worried there would be a mistrial on all 18
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thank god that team trump deported Jakiw Palij
I was really concerned a 95 year old nazi prison guard was going to start some trouble
now they can say they deport white people too
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So does trump pardon him prior to sentencing??
Can't do it yet. It could be a bargaining chip for the potential retrial of the 10 counts, plus Manafort has 7 more charges to answer for in DC including obstruction of justice, failure to register as a foreign agent and conspiracy to launder money.
This is just the beginning for Manafort...
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We are #1!!
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when I hear, impeach . . . I think of a nice summer, farmers market right about now. the peaches, are so good.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DlJWtPqU8AATLSn?format=jpg&name=small)
Mueller Aint Going Away
Manafort Also Got Arrested
Mobsters Are Getting Arraigned
Making Attorneys Get Attorneys
My Attorney’s Going Away
Morons Are Governing America
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/ext_tw_video_thumb/1032073018615496704/pu/img/LbU3tZ4_jrNdw3jX?format=jpg&name=small)
Anti-Trump images become big business for DC projectionist (https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/anti-trump-images-become-big-business-for-dc-projectionist)
Bell's first projection onto the hotel was a callback to insider-Washington activist history: "Experts agree: Trump is a Pig." Identical phrasing was used to describe President Ronald Reagan's attorney general, Edwin Meese, on posters that mysteriously appeared around Washington in 1987 and were later revealed to be the work of Jeff Nelson, drummer for the D.C. punk band Minor Threat.
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i've been doing a lot of reading about Cohen & Manafort, here's a shortened reading list:
overview1: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/21/us/politics/cohen-manafort-verdicts-trump.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/21/us/politics/cohen-manafort-verdicts-trump.html)
overview2: https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/22/politics/donald-trump-paul-manafort-michael-cohen/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/22/politics/donald-trump-paul-manafort-michael-cohen/index.html)
Michael Cohen Plea Agreement: Possible Meanings of the Campaign Finance Counts (via Lawfare)
https://www.lawfareblog.com/michael-cohen-plea-agreement-possible-meanings-campaign-finance-counts (https://www.lawfareblog.com/michael-cohen-plea-agreement-possible-meanings-campaign-finance-counts)
In case of Mueller firing, break glass: Democrats prep an emergency plan
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/case-mueller-firing-break-glass-democrats-prep-emergency-plan-n902526 (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/case-mueller-firing-break-glass-democrats-prep-emergency-plan-n902526)
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Seeing Lanny Davis on TV representing Cohen is surreal
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i've been doing a lot of reading about Manafort,
Good, like anybody with any interest in Ukraine.
Or fly down, bring a bottle of wine and I'll tell you all about him...
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we could use a little levity as our CIC is getting it from all directions (deservedly so...but we know it won't change a thing)
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and this one time, at space force band camp...
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(https://media.newyorker.com/cartoons/5b7d7c7e0cc6bf7549576d0a/master/w_649,c_limit/DC082218.jpg)
"Does this jumpsuit make me look naked?"
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good read:
Why Trump Supporters Believe He Is Not Corrupt (https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/08/what-trumps-supporters-think-of-corruption/568147/)
What the president’s supporters fear most isn’t the corruption of American law, but the corruption of America’s traditional identity.
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it is unbleiveable how much news there is in this 'fake news' era
but this is getting some mention, but certainly being lost in the din of the shock and awe PR policy the POTUS has
People make up stories. This whole thing about flipping, they call it, I know all about flipping. For 30, 40 years I’ve been watching flippers. Everything’s wonderful and then they get 10 years in jail and they — they flip on whoever the next highest one is, or as high as you can go. It — it almost ought to be outlawed. It’s not fair. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2018/08/23/fox-friends-nails-trump-interview-by-shutting-up/?utm_term=.4bd8411af267)
A president of the United States is saying that a criminal’s loyalty to his fellow criminals is a sacred principle, and that it’s wrong for law enforcement to interfere with that.
— Kurt Andersen (@KBAndersen)
this is good
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The President and his party of enablers are rapidly reaching the point of -arguably has happened this week- of saying if he has broken law it’s ok and if he can be above law - this is the key test- then we longer live in a democracy or republic but more like an authoritarian regime with proclivities towards dictatorship....
Crazy is at 11
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(https://www.floridamemory.com/fpc/commerce/c660486.jpg)
Flipper was a hero. Here he is beckoning a young woman into the water where it was safer.
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The President and his party of enablers are rapidly reaching the point of -arguably has happened this week- of saying if he has broken law it’s ok and if he can be above law - this is the key test- then we longer live in a democracy or republic but more like an authoritarian regime with proclivities towards dictatorship....
Crazy is at 11
Nixon 2.0
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But did Nixon have the entire party enabling him?
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(https://www.washingtonpost.com/resizer/duDCp2kSIIbyfPo_o_tH_HSH1JQ=/1484x0/arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/KSLV2HCPYQ3AZHHD6B4ATFU5IA.jpg) (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/opinions/wp/2018/08/24/trumps-right-thugs-are-in-washington/?utm_term=.ccbbfb1d5f18)
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will Hillary run again? why would she want to put her,self through the American people, again? maybe, she wins, maybe she doesn't . . . but good lord mercy to anyone who tries, for the rest of my life. we all are to blame though. go out and vote. go out and vote. November, November, November. and then nothing else, the rest of the time, besides watching from the sidelines. I do it too. I vote, and feel happy, as if I actually have accomplished something. I have . . . I help keep the train with no windows or any doors, onward down the tracks.
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Not Hillary Clinton
But I think there is a good chance both Biden and Sanders will...it is going to be a brutal primary
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someone, told me, the other day . . . Hillary / Obama 2020. i laughed at him, saying, sure ok. yeah right. keep dreaming. and then, I could not get the thought out of my, head.
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That would never happen
Obama would never do that
So go back to laughing
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I enjoy, when people say, " " would never do that. You can only say, "I" would never do that, and even then . . . you can't really prove it.
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I enjoy, when people say, " " would never do that. You can only say, "I" would never do that, and even then . . . you can't really prove it.
Well I think with a public figure- a president no less-you have a real extensive public record to go on
People enjoy playing these political parlor games but it never happens....Bill Clinton never ran for a third term, there never was a contested convention and there never will be a Vice President Obama
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someone, told me, the other day . . . Hillary / Obama 2020. i laughed at him, saying, sure ok. yeah right. keep dreaming. and then, I could not get the thought out of my, head.
I believe the prevailing legal opinion is an ex-President who has served their two terms cannot be the VP although no court has ever weighed in on it.
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someone, told me, the other day . . . Hillary / Obama 2020. i laughed at him, saying, sure ok. yeah right. keep dreaming. and then, I could not get the thought out of my, head.
I believe the prevailing legal opinion is an ex-President who has served their two terms cannot be the VP although no court has ever weighed in on it.
Another random technicality I read was the if the VP becomes President less than two years into the term, he/she is still eligible to run twice more. So that could mean 10+ years of President Pence in theory. Not that there's a strong likelihood of that happening.
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Any guess on who the author of this piece is?
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/05/opinion/trump-white-house-anonymous-resistance.html
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Any guess on who the author of this piece is?
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/05/opinion/trump-white-house-anonymous-resistance.html
Joe Klein
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Any guess on who the author of this piece is?
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/05/opinion/trump-white-house-anonymous-resistance.html
The New York Times
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Female, for sure.
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Female, for sure.
My initial thought was Nikki Haley.
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I agree with Lawrence O’Donnell...Dan Coats makes the most sense
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Female, for sure.
melania.
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Mike Pence.
Nothing to lose, everything to gain.
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Female, for sure.
melania.
Barron
(Not Bannon; get yr shit together, Justin)
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Mike Pence.
Nothing to lose, everything to gain.
highly doubt it...mostly because he does absolutely nothing, so how could he stop trump from doing anything
spineless buffoon who can't be in a room alone with a woman
(Not Bannon; get yr shit together, Justin)
Just heard Errol Morris (Fog of War) is doing a docmenatary on him called American Dharma Looking forward to it
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https://thehardtimes.net/hardstyle/opinion-i-am-part-of-the-resistance-inside-morrisseys-touring-band/
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https://thehardtimes.net/hardstyle/opinion-i-am-part-of-the-resistance-inside-morrisseys-touring-band/
Awesome
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So Thursday looks like it's going to be an interesting news day.
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It's only Wednesday and we're already up to Quaaludes and gang rapes.
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So can we blame the Naugh for not being able to get Quaaludes any more?
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Who do you guys think weighs more? Donald Trump or Michael Moore?
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and who do you think has a bigger penis?
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Kavanaugh is making Clarence Thomas look like a choirboy
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and, just like Thomas . . . .
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So predictions...maybe a little play by play...but like a announcer at a horse race or a cock fight
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So predictions...maybe a little play by play...but like a announcer at a horse race or a cock fight
Every time they pan to the senators, i feel like I'm at the Natural History Museum.
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Maybe the rapist should’ve let someone other than his law clerk read this ahead of time.
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Angry white man and entitled jock crybaby. Uggh, he is so gross. Trump isn't going to like all that crying.
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come on guys...I no longer get my news from the Daily Show, but come here for all I need to know
letting me down
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This guy likes beer.
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This guy likes beer.
Hes knows 15 common female names!
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(https://img.thedailybeast.com/image/upload/c_crop,d_placeholder_euli9k,h_1440,w_2560,x_0,y_0/dpr_2.0/c_limit,w_740/fl_lossy,q_auto/v1538074338/180927-melendez-donald-trump-jr-fear-flying-christine-blasey-ford-hero_c6rozk)
She says she's afraid of flying but she flew to DC (https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-jr-and-the-gops-obsession-with-christine-blasey-fords-fear-of-flying/?via=twitter_page), ergo she's a liar, says Prof. Trump Jr., PhD.
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Funny story - It was from Senator Leahy that I learned to refer to Beefeater as "Wifebeater"
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Graham was off his rocker.
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this is what I was talking about
thank you for steeping up to the plate!
a few memes and some biting Relaxer commentary would be welcomed too
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I liked Sen Klobuchar's reaction to Kavanaugh complimenting her. First she froze, then she fumbled through something like "thanks", then she sort of laughed to herself. You could see her doing the political calculus in her head - "Should I accept his compliment? Will voters think I'm being too friendly with him if I do? We are through the looking glass here, people!"
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Graham was off his rocker.
Auditioning to replace Sessions...
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Feinstein is always late.
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Graham was off his rocker.
Auditioning to replace Sessions...
Oh no you didn't
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Does anyone know what Alyssa Milano's sign says?
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When Mr. Crapo looks down at his notes he looks a lot like Mr. Potter.
Mr. Tillis doesn't stutter.
Mr. Booker is knocking it out of the park, but it probably doesn't fucking matter.
Now Mr. Munster
USA! USA!
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Does anyone know what Alyssa Milano's sign says?
The purple one said Believe Survivors. No On Kavanaugh.
The sash said Believe Women.
The icy eyes said much more than words.
I was unable to read her shirt.
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This guy likes beer.
He played VARSITY basketball. He went to church EVERY Sunday. Still does.
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Yesterday was so disgusting. But hey, I know that "trigger warning" means now! That's something!
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And I learned about the old drinking game, devil's triangle.
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Walkie...being our resident Sexpert
What exactly do to you think Boof means...
I don't think it has anything to do with the Foo Farters
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Anal, sex.
It's pretty clear, that the guy is in. And by this time next week, or next month, nobody will be talking about it and nobody will care in this country, because that's how we roll.
And in 2 years or less the gop will manage to have overturned roe v Wade and gay marriage.
The democrats will not win in November. Kav's nomination will make sure every Republican votes. Democrats don't vote, they just bitch.
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Anal, sex.
It's pretty clear, that the guy is in. And by this time next week, or next month, nobody will be talking about it and nobody will care in this country, because that's how we roll.
And in 2 years or less the gop will manage to have overturned roe v Wade and gay marriage.
The democrats will not win in November. Kav's nomination will make sure every Republican votes. Democrats don't vote, they just bitch.
Well people are still talking about Clarence Thomas...
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before this . . . who the fuck was, talking about him, or anita hill? who?
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Anal, sex.
The democrats will not win in November.
Of course that was obvious....more of a rhetorical question, ya know because people are like ....'oh yeah that makes sense that these prep school boys would mention farting in their yearbook"
I remember when a teacher was talking to me about her model student when we were looking at the yearbook and they all listed Bowling
and she was like...funny I don't ever remeber them going to the bowling alley or talking about
I was like "duh...they mean they were Smoking Pot in a pipe often referred to as a bowl"
I'm not ceeding November....the base on the left is crazy motivated and there are a lot of people with R next to their name that are at much higher risk of losing their seat just a few weeks/months ago
I don't it's going to be a massive blue wave, but I think we'll get one of the houses back and inch closer to the other
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2018-midterm-election-forecast/house/?ex_cid=rrpromo
Forecasting the race for the House
Updated Sep. 28, 2018, at 10:43 AM
4 in 5 Chance Democrats win control (80.3%)
1 in 5 Chance Republicans keep control (19.7%)
Forecasting the race for the Senate
Updated Sep. 28, 2018, at 10:43 AM
1 in 3 Chance Democrats win control (31.7%)
2 in 3 Chance Republicans keep control (68.3%)
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Isn't fivethirtyeight the same site that had Clinton as an 80% favorite to win the 206 election?
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Isn't fivethirtyeight the same site that had Clinton as an 80% favorite to win the 206 election?
To their credit, that was the lowest poll for Clinton, but yeah...
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Isn't fivethirtyeight the same site that had Clinton as an 80% favorite to win the 206 election?
To their credit, that was the lowest poll for Clinton, but yeah...
To be fair, their morning of poll was like 65% Clinton winning, not 80.
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Isn't fivethirtyeight the same site that had Clinton as an 80% favorite to win the 206 election?
I'm pretty sure Nate came out and said that there was errors in the way they did 2016
so they are very gunshy and I would bet they are playing it REALLY safe
I think they also focused on likely voters and a lot of people who never vote came out for trump
But I agree...polling in 2016 was crazy off...but we've never had Trump before
I think people were embarrassed to tell pollsters they would vote for Trump, but in the booth not so
I think the base for the dem's were very cocksure and I think the polling from places like 529 were the cause of that
but they are super fired up now (they weren't in 2016 ...except for the bernie crew)
Now to be clear...I'm just pulling all this out of my "Foo Chute"
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Polling was actually quite accurate...it shifted the last week due to Comey...or why do you think in the last three days Hillary showed up in Wisconsin and then closed in Pennsylvania
Come on people...
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have to credit Hutch on this awesomeness
Brad Kavanagh vs Samuel L Jackson (https://youtu.be/p7Unb8_GxtM)
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So will Rod Rosenstein get to oversee the FBI investigation into the accusations against Bart O'Kavanaugh?
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Not sure how it works but sessions has no need to recuse I think
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Hey Walkie, do you think Graham is a top or a bottom?
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Neither . . . we, don't want, "that in our house."
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Neither . . . we, don't want, "that in our house."
It's not a preference, walkie. It's an orientation....
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ok . . . then, he is a power top. a drunk on power, top.
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Brett Kavanaugh got into a college bar fight after seeing UB40 (https://consequenceofsound.net/2018/10/brett-kavanaugh-ub40-bar-fight/)
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All I'm seeing now, is that scene from the excellent movie, bringing out the dead, where they play red red wine in the drug dealer's apartment.
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(https://i.imgur.com/ZAXxDql.png)
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Is it just me, or is Michael Moore, basically the liberal alex jones, at this point.
Meaning, both are conspiracy crazy, that nobody cares about anymore.
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Alex Jones hasn't made a documentary that earned more than $200 million.
Moore is easily lampooned and ridiculed, but dude has made some very good, insightful movies about important topics.
What the fuck has Alex Jones done?
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Honestly, your post smacks of "I am unfamiliar with either of their work but they're both fat and ugly so they must be the same!"
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Alex Jones hasn't made a documentary that earned more than $200 million.
Moore is easily lampooned and ridiculed, but dude has made some very good, insightful movies about important topics.
What the fuck has Alex Jones done?
I will say that my MM post was a little hyperbolic...but it reminds me of the 'orange threat level' stuff Tom Ridge was 'pressured' to do during Bush's re-election
MM always cites/footnotes where he gets his data from. AJ is just making shit up on the fly
I think that's a big difference in terms of credibility
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Also, to be fair, the only thing that I recall Michael Moore selling are his basic products; books, movies, that TV show he had.
Alex Jones would pedal chinese rhino horn and tiger semen if he could spin it as some way to fight the bloated communist yellow-beast of fascism. Or something like that which I would assume also include a ching-chong narrative and being beaten at our own game.
I know it's not popular, but I do appreciate Michael Moore and Bill Maher even if they tend to lean to the cartoonish side of liberalism at time.
I'd like to hope that I can recognize when they cross a line of pure fact and veer into "entertainment". It scares me that folks like Rush appear to have their adherents kneeling to eat out of their chafed, ashen ham fists.
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I know it's not popular, but I do appreciate Michael Moore and Bill Maher even if they tend to lean to the cartoonish side of liberalism at time.
I'd like to hope that I can recognize when they cross a line of pure fact and veer into "entertainment". It scares me that folks like Rush appear to have their adherents kneeling to eat out of their chafed, ashen ham fists.
I love Bill, but agree he goes a little far sometimes and makes him loose credibility
He really still wants to get his jokes in, even if it gets away from the salient point he was making a commentary on
BM is very adamant that he is entertainment/satire and not news show
that let's him get away with it a little more, as a news reporter shouldn't say and do the things he does
...can't say that's the case for Rush and Alex.
Both BM and MM stated early on they thought Trump can and would win
There were about zero liberals saying that in 2016
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Honestly, your post smacks of "I am unfamiliar with either of their work but they're both fat and ugly so they must be the same!"
Honestly, your post smacks of the fact that you missed, "at this point." You know, the words I wrote down. The words that mean, right now, not years ago.
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Honestly, your post smacks of "I am unfamiliar with either of their work but they're both fat and ugly so they must be the same!"
Honestly, your post smacks of the fact that you missed, "at this point." You know, the words I wrote down. The words that mean, right now, not years ago.
At this point, yes, Moore's influence and importance has diminished. But still, the other boardies are right in terms of comparing the actual credibility of the two.
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I don’t know why Moore’s credibility would suffer when he had a better read on Trump Country and his impending victory than just about anyone else on the left.
In fact I would dare say Moore understood what was going on better than anyone other than the Dilbert creator and Rush Limbaugh....and some aspects of Trump’s appeal he understood better than them because of his connection to Michigan.
The left likes to eat it’s own. Comparing him to Alex Jones is laughable.
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"WHITE HOUSE PRESS BRIEFING" — A Bad Lip Reading (https://youtu.be/8EsUNOIYyKg)
soo good
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If the shoe fits. Or if it fits on the shoe.
https://www.theguardian.com/global/video/2018/oct/05/donald-trump-boards-air-force-one-with-paper-stuck-to-his-shoe-video
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Nazi graffiti at Fairfax Jewish Community Center...damn this stuff is out of control...and yet I have a feeling of utter powerlessness
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even though this did have a JA bent...quickly went sideways so moved to here
An Evening with the Clintons
Eww. Why? Who would piss away $50-$375 for a ticket?
probably not the same people who shelled out thousands to attend that criminal Trump's inauguration ;D
innocent until proven guilty (Muller is working on that)
What's interesting as of late...People have to keep being reminded of the bombshells that keep landing about him
these headlines are indicative of that
Reminder: Exactly One Week Ago The New York Times Exposed Trump's Tax "Fraud"
Trump may be guilty of massive tax fraud. Don’t let it fall down the memory hole.
Donald Trump is probably a tax crook. The response to it might be worse.
Donald Trump’s tax ‘fraud’ was exposed - and no one cares
the one thing that really annoys me is for years has been this line "Trump claimed he turned a 'small' $1 million loan from his father into an empire." when in fact The New York Times says it was more like $60.7 million in loans
That is a REALLLY big difference and intentionally mislead his supporters (but they don't care)
it is worthy to note....every one is putting the air quotes around fraud
(https://media.giphy.com/media/fUayrB6J2kV0Y/giphy.gif)
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https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2018-midterm-election-forecast/house/?ex_cid=rrpromo
Forecasting the race for the House
Updated Sep. 28, 2018, at 10:43 AM
4 in 5 Chance Democrats win control (80.3%)
1 in 5 Chance Republicans keep control (19.7%)
Forecasting the race for the Senate
Updated Sep. 28, 2018, at 10:43 AM
1 in 3 Chance Democrats win control (31.7%)
2 in 3 Chance Republicans keep control (68.3%)
welp...looking not as good for the Senate anymore....house is more likely tho...
Forecasting the race for the House
Updated Oct. 16, 2018, at 1:58 PM
5 in 6 Chance Democrats win control (84.5%)
1 in 6 Chance Republicans keep control (15.5%)
Forecasting the race for the Senate
Updated Oct. 16, 2018, at 1:58 PM
1 in 5 Chance Democrats win control (19.5%)
4 in 5 Chance Republicans keep control (80.5%)
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(https://scontent-iad3-1.cdninstagram.com/vp/4673a71c2f9c4f4ef460394bc17b30f5/5C5B21CB/t51.2885-15/e35/s480x480/43817606_2108338236147931_6346533413663351577_n.jpg)
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Politics is killing Joe's Record Paradise.
https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2018/10/hints-of-trouble-in-joes-record-paradise-owner-blames-upcoming-elections/
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The owner has been running it into the ground since 2009...,incredibly overpriced stuff....CD Cellar is jam packed on weekends and it’s in Falls Church...but they don’t rip you off so people go there!
If he wants to do good business he should cut prices on used vinyl by 75%
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Not liking signs of what looks to be happening in midterms
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Should Mueller pull a Comey and release his findings just before the election?
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Should Mueller pull a Comey and release his findings just before the election?
I like the way you think...but we know that any facts will have zero impact on 'team trump' voters
so likely will be a dud and fox news will focus on "hey look the Muller report has a dangling participle in the first paragraph, therefore the ALL the findings should be thrown out....Squirrel!"
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This Fucking Guy:
Manfort shows up to court in a wheelchair (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna921826)
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Should Mueller pull a Comey and release his findings just before the election?
I like the way you think...but we know that any facts will have zero impact on 'team trump' voters
well we knew that. trump nailed it like a porn star when he said "i could go out on fifth avenue and shoot someone in the face, and i wouldn't lose a vote".
the mueller report, like comey's announcement, will affect undecideds & independents. along with base turn-out, it's what wins elections.
so likely will be a dud and fox news will focus on "hey look the Muller report has a dangling participle in the first paragraph, therefore the ALL the findings should be thrown out....Squirrel!"
this is one of the funnier things i've read on here recently ;D
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Not liking signs of what looks to be happening in midterms
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/412445-trumps-approval-rating-jumps-higher-than-obamas-ahead-of-midterms
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Not liking signs of what looks to be happening in midterms
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/412445-trumps-approval-rating-jumps-higher-than-obamas-ahead-of-midterms
headline is grimmer than the facts in the body tho....
Overall, the poll found Democrats with a 9-point lead over Republicans in the battle for congressional control.
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i think the democrats approach is sort of not working as well as it should...
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i think the democrats approach is sort of not working as well as it should...
I wish I could tell what their approach is...but I'm feeling the urge to start drinking heavily
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Yes am with you on that drinking
Approach seems to be trump is evil and he lies...taking the bait on anything he says and the mandatory “we thought he could not go any lower...”
Why can’t democrats come up with something coherent on immigration and just stick to it?
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The approach the DNC selected was to focus on health care for the midterms. Which hasn't really hit as strong a chord as hoped.
And isn't "Abolish ICE" the democrats' position on immigration?
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And isn't "Abolish ICE" the democrats' position on immigration?
You can’t be serious
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And isn't "Abolish ICE" the democrats' position on immigration?
You can’t be serious
I know, that is all I hear now...conservatives telling me what all liberals stand for
I don't remember that happening in the past? (it's the meme's!)
Used to be they just made fun of what you stood for, now they say you stand for something you don't
SMH
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I was just being a little snarky, but if the Democrats have a cohesive and coherent plan on immigration, they are doing a really shitty job communicating it. And in the absence of such a plan, the platform gets co-opted by those who yell loudest.
"Earlier this week, Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.) said that the first order of business if Democrats retake Congress should be to abolish the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency (ICE). It's a position that's increasingly en vogue among liberals after Alexandria Cortez-Ocasio's shocking upset in a New York Democratic primary last month"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/07/24/democrats-ice-conundrum-isnt-going-away/
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And I agree with you.
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I was just being a little snarky, but if the Democrats have a cohesive and coherent plan on immigration, they are doing a really shitty job communicating it. And in the absence of such a plan, the platform gets co-opted by those who yell loudest.
ok...snark noted :) I just keep seeing responses about what my stance is when talking (well arguing) with tump-etts and frankly it become a big pet peeve of mine
Hutch said this years ago...the stance the dems have on immigration is a total loser
I don't have a good solution, but the fear of alienating the future Hispanic voting block is making it so they are suggesting plans like 'abolish ICE'
that will never get votes from the independents and middle America ...and lot's of Hispanic US citizens
and is pushing those who voted trump in the past to want to vote again for that kind of leadership as it's easy to paint the dems with promoting anarchy when they say stuff like that (the irony is team trump is the one going for Anarchy, but they are doing a fantastic job as painting the dems with that moniker)
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I was just being a little snarky, but if the Democrats have a cohesive and coherent plan on immigration, they are doing a really shitty job communicating it. And in the absence of such a plan, the platform gets co-opted by those who yell loudest.
ok...snark noted :) I just keep seeing responses about what my stance is when talking (well arguing) with tump-etts and frankly it become a big pet peeve of mine
Hutch said this years ago...the stance the dems have on immigration is a total loser
I don't have a good solution, but the fear of alienating the future Hispanic voting block is making it so they are suggesting plans like 'abolish ICE'
that will never get votes from the independents and middle America ...and lot's of Hispanic US citizens
and is pushing those who voted trump in the past to want to vote again for that kind of leadership as it's easy to paint the dems with promoting anarchy when they say stuff like that (the irony is team trump is the one going for Anarchy, but they are doing a fantastic job as painting the dems with that moniker)
Democratic leadership is not pushing abolish Ice. Democratic leadership wanted Crowley to beat Ocasio-Cortez.
Abolish ICE gained traction with progressives because it is an easy slogan to highlight lots of the problems with our immigration enforcement. The Dems don't have a plan because plans are complicated and hard to explain.
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Democratic leadership is not pushing abolish Ice. Democratic leadership wanted Crowley to beat Ocasio-Cortez.
Abolish ICE gained traction with progressives because it is an easy slogan to highlight lots of the problems with our immigration enforcement. The Dems don't have a plan because plans are complicated and hard to explain.
Great point...hard to sum it up in a bumper sticker slogan
We do have to dumb it down messaging wise, but we could leverage the web to get the details on the plan, but a great slogan is critical
I think Medicare for all is a winner...kinda of feel like they started to run with that, but faded
yeah, the right has pretty much tried to use Ocasio-Cortez as a scare tactic..."See, this is what ALL Dems want, if you don't vote for us her platform WILL be the dem platfom"...which as you said is far from the truth
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So the mainstream DNC message is, "we don't really want to abolish ICE but our true plans are too complicated and difficult to explain to you"?
That should play really well in a week or two when the caravan reaches the US border.
The US is currently run by the worst president in history, and the Dems can't seem to get their shit together. It would be comical if it weren't so sad.
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I think Schumer and Pelosi are horribly ineffective. That said, I do think that the move to run on health care is a smart one for the Dems.
The people who vote on immigration are already going to vote for R's, so why focus your energy there? It's like EW taking that ancestry test. Especially since you are just going to piss off the Democrat diehards who actually do want to abolish ICE and start over?
With Healthcare the Dems can go on offense. It clearly has the R's scared, or else they wouldn't all be lying about their positions and their votes. It polls well, and people are starting to understand it.
As for Trump... he might be a horrible president, but he's a good politician and the economy is doing well (sort of). Plus there are a lot of structrural advantages the R's have.
Look, I'm terrified about this election but I would MUCH rather it was waged on health care than anything else.
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Agree
How hard would it be for senior democrats in Congress to call a press conference and make clear the party stance on caravans, illegals etc while pushing back on the lunacy of being afraid of a group of poor Latinos walking from Honduras for a better life?
Instead they allow Trump to paint them as pro open borders
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good stuff people!!
this was one of the most insightful back and forths I've seen anywhere!
unfortunately the people in power are not listening to this and who ever is giving them advice should be fired
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Agree
How hard would it be for senior democrats in Congress to call a press conference and make clear the party stance on caravans, illegals etc while pushing back on the lunacy of being afraid of a group of poor Latinos walking from Honduras for a better life?
Instead they allow Trump to paint them as pro open borders
What should the stance be on caravans? It is a group of migrant families (many from country's like Hondorus where the Sec of State Hillary Clinton supported a military coupe) walking to the border together for protection so that they can legally demand asylum in the US. And how do you diffuse the situation without just sounding like Trump light?
And even if Schumer did this, there are enough Abolish Ice House Dems running that no one would believe it is the "Democratic."
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The caravan is going to get near the border and the Republicans are going to say that most of the 3 million Hondurans, Guatemalans, and Salvadorans already living in the US are here illegally (which is true) and then they are going to point to the caravan of Hondurans, Guatemalans, and Salvadorans at the border and say that the Democrats want to abolish ICE and let them all in. The Dems will scramble to come up with a response, but they will fear alienating the crucial Millennial vote, so they will make some vague comments that don't really say whether they favor abolishing ICE or not and the Republicans will pounce on it.
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The Dems answer is going to be that we need to have a comprehensive immigration solution. Which of course means nothing to anyone.
What can the Dems say that you think insulates them from the Republican attack?
There is definitely not anything that is humane or nuanced that will work for the middle.
So that leaves tacking right. Even if Schumer does that by saying the caravan should be stopped or we should have less immigrants Trump will just double down and say that his wall would have solved this and the Dems obstructed it.
I still think the Dems are best trying to crowd the caravan out with other issues. Push voter suppression, push health care, push Trump's lying, push Trump being in bed with the Saudi's. FOX news of course is going to be all over the caravan but there is no winning for the Dems by drawing more coverage to it.
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The Dems will scramble to come up with a response, but they will fear alienating the crucial Millennial vote, so they will make some vague comments that don't really say whether they favor abolishing ICE or not and the Republicans will pounce on it.
Correct. Because Republicans fall in line with their party and Democratic voters do not. Mainstream Democrats have to constantly give up the middle because the human garbage that is the Bernie Bros won't show up and vote unless the Democratic platform is endless virtue signalling. It would be nice if the progressive wing of the party -- which fancies themselves the smartest people in the room -- understood they actually need to win elections to do things. Say "we agree, we need tough borders and cannot tolerate illegals" then once you win actually go about enacting your real agenda. You know, like the GOP does every time.
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The Dems will scramble to come up with a response, but they will fear alienating the crucial Millennial vote, so they will make some vague comments that don't really say whether they favor abolishing ICE or not and the Republicans will pounce on it.
Correct. Because Republicans fall in line with their party and Democratic voters do not. Mainstream Democrats have to constantly give up the middle because the human garbage that is the Bernie Bros won't show up and vote unless the Democratic platform is endless virtue signalling. It would be nice if the progressive wing of the party -- which fancies themselves the smartest people in the room -- understood they actually need to win elections to do things. Say "we agree, we need tough borders and cannot tolerate illegals" then once you win actually go about enacting your real agenda. You know, like the GOP does every time.
I think you have the way the GOP is working backwards. The GOP moderate wing has either been snuffed out (Corker and Flake) or decided to go along with the racism and hate of the far right, because for them it is a small price to pay to pass otherwise unpopular tax cuts that distribute billions of dollars of additional wealth up. The Muslim ban, immigration crackdowns, etc... the GOP has already given abandoned the center.
Obama did the exact opposite of what you are describing. He ran on a moderately progressive platform (close Guantanamo and public option for instance) and then he moved center once in office. The strategy didn't get the D's any additional voters in the 2010 midterms.
The question for the Dems is whether they better off energizing their base by going left or trying to broaden to get Trump voters by moving to the center. A corollary is does moving to the center on issues like immigration even attract Trump voters, or are they actually more attracted to a move left on things like health care where polling for Medicare for all is actually high?
Jury is still out.
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FWIW, the actual caravan is still 1,200 miles away.
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Republicans are such pussies...surely there is a good ad here somewhere
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This could also go in the Onion thread:
The #MAGAbomber's van, annotated (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/10/26/mail-bomb-suspects-van-annotated/?utm_term=.14c72327d768)
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Trump will win in 2020. Sorry folks.
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I have always thought this the likeliest scenario and am dismayed at the number of liberal friends I have who dismiss him as an idiot too stupid to have a chance and who will be impeached
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Trump will win in 2020. Sorry folks.
You can take your loser attitude and shove it. I'm taking a fighting attitude.
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Well you still have to fight no matter what you think will happen but the only time since 1980 someone was not re-elected was the strange case of George HW Bush when Perot had the most successful third party candidacy of the past century handing Clinton the presidency
The incumbent has a lot of advantages and we shouldn’t dismiss him as an idiot or underestimate him
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I guess Carter was not re-elected in 1980 but it seems rare
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I'm feeling good that the D's will crush the house (unless trump finds a way to turn the crazy up)
Senate is not looking possible at all...hopefully we'll keep it at 48/49
but this infographic should concern the future of the GOP as White becomes a minority in the USA
(https://fivethirtyeight.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/skelley-HOUSE-MAPS-1-2.png?w=575)
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hence the plans to suppress non-white voters, limit non-white immigration, portraying whites as victims to ensure they get out and vote, etc...
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hence the plans to suppress non-white voters, limit non-white immigration, portraying whites as victims to ensure they get out and vote, etc...
I would be ok with this if all the white immigrants were liberals.
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hence the plans to suppress non-white voters, limit non-white immigration, portraying whites as victims to ensure they get out and vote, etc...
I would be ok with this if all the white immigrants were liberals.
it's ok to limit immigration to whites, as long as they lean left?
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hence the plans to suppress non-white voters, limit non-white immigration, portraying whites as victims to ensure they get out and vote, etc...
I would be ok with this if all the white immigrants were liberals.
it's ok to limit immigration to whites, as long as they lean left?
What I was trying to say was that I'd like to see an immigration policy that preserves the current (diverse, but white majority) racial makeup of America. If that means limiting anyone, then so be it. That said, I'd want all the immigrants to be liberals.
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Based on birth rates to preserve a white majority you would need to only allow whites....
I have the opposite view...admit as many non whites as possible as white people have gone batshit crazy and are killing America
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Based on birth rates to preserve a white majority you would need to only allow whites....
I have the opposite view...admit as many non whites as possible as white people have gone batshit crazy and are killing America
Maybe we need to limit the number of kids people have. Have some common sense, people.
Tax benefits for people who have 0-3 kids and increasing penalties for people who have four or more.
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I'd like to see an immigration policy that preserves the current (diverse, but white majority) racial makeup of America.
I don't like that at all...quota's on race of incoming immigrants
affirmative in-action
Trump is your guy if that's what your are looking for
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I'd like to see an immigration policy that preserves the current (diverse, but white majority) racial makeup of America.
I don't like that at all...quota's on race of incoming immigrants
affirmative in-action
Trump is your guy if that's what your are looking for
Oh yes, Trump's my man. Because immigration is the only issue. Please don't be a dumb liberal.
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I think it is common sense to admit way more people and of course that will mean non whites as Swedes aren’t lining up....news flash: living in America is harsher than most industrialized countries
Most of our country is empty...our population density low...the reality is we need more people permanently coming in to renew ourselves or we end up looking like the US Senate Republicans
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Space You are nuts...I have heard of the China one child policy but you are proposing limiting the right to have children due to racial considerations
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I'd like to see an immigration policy that preserves the current (diverse, but white majority) racial makeup of America.
I don't like that at all...quota's on race of incoming immigrants
affirmative in-action
Trump is your guy if that's what your are looking for
Oh yes, Trump's my man. Because immigration is the only issue. Please don't be a dumb liberal.
I know that a lot of trupm-etts are voting on this issue alone, so I don't think it's that off
less about immigration, more about keeping America white again
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Space You are nuts...I have heard of the China one child policy but you are proposing limiting the right to have children due to racial considerations
I did not say that. You are hearing what you want to hear. What I say is incentivize having low numbers of kids and penalize having high numbers of kids. Capitalism already does this naturally, just extend it through education and economic policy. Then maybe dumb people who have more kids than they can afford will better get the picture. I said nothing about race.
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I'd like to see an immigration policy that preserves the current (diverse, but white majority) racial makeup of America.
I don't like that at all...quota's on race of incoming immigrants
affirmative in-action
Trump is your guy if that's what your are looking for
Oh yes, Trump's my man. Because immigration is the only issue. Please don't be a dumb liberal.
I know that a lot of trupm-etts are voting on this issue alone, so I don't think it's that off
less about immigration, more about keeping America white again
Well shame on them for voting on one issue.
I know people who voted for Trump for the abortion issue alone. Shame on them too.
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You talked about wanting to keep country majority white and penalizing people for having too many kids...since people who have more kids tend to be black or Latino I think we can all draw the conclusion
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You talked about wanting to keep country majority white and penalizing people for having too many kids...since people who have more kids tend to be black or Latino I think we can all draw the conclusion
I'm against anyone having many kids, especially people who don't have the financial means. I grew up in an area that is currently 98.5% white, and lower middle class (current median household income, 44K). I'm against them having many kids.
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You talked about wanting to keep country majority white and penalizing people for having too many kids...since people who have more kids tend to be black or Latino I think we can all draw the conclusion
I'm against anyone having many kids, especially people who don't have the financial means. I grew up in an area that was probably 98% white, and lower middle class. I'm against them having many kids.
An incentive to abort...
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Beyond existing tax credit for people who have kids I think government should stay out of people’s decisions on having kids...
You should write Stephen miller with your proposal
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unoMMru4-c0
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In Argentina there is a monthly pension per kid....ends up creating Space nightmare....China one child policy also created huge problems
Very dangerous area for government to involve itself in
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You talked about wanting to keep country majority white and penalizing people for having too many kids...since people who have more kids tend to be black or Latino I think we can all draw the conclusion
I'm against anyone having many kids, especially people who don't have the financial means. I grew up in an area that is currently 98.5% white, and lower middle class (current median household income, 44K). I'm against them having many kids.
I'll also add the Trump won the county I grew up in by +5 in a state that Hillary won by +22.
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You talked about wanting to keep country majority white and penalizing people for having too many kids...since people who have more kids tend to be black or Latino I think we can all draw the conclusion
I'm against anyone having many kids, especially people who don't have the financial means. I grew up in an area that is currently 98.5% white, and lower middle class (current median household income, 44K). I'm against them having many kids.
I'll also add the Trump won the county I grew up in by +5 in a state that Hillary won by +22.
This is an argument for education not for penalizing people for having children!!
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You talked about wanting to keep country majority white and penalizing people for having too many kids...since people who have more kids tend to be black or Latino I think we can all draw the conclusion
I'm against anyone having many kids, especially people who don't have the financial means. I grew up in an area that is currently 98.5% white, and lower middle class (current median household income, 44K). I'm against them having many kids.
I'll also add the Trump won the county I grew up in by +5 in a state that Hillary won by +22.
This is an argument for education not for penalizing people for having children!!
Perhaps. But it's also an argument that I'm not basing my thinking based on race. And as I said, educating people about the benefits of limiting family size based on financial means would be part of the program. So yes, education.
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You talked about wanting to keep country majority white and penalizing people for having too many kids...since people who have more kids tend to be black or Latino I think we can all draw the conclusion
I'm against anyone having many kids, especially people who don't have the financial means. I grew up in an area that is currently 98.5% white, and lower middle class (current median household income, 44K). I'm against them having many kids.
I'll also add the Trump won the county I grew up in by +5 in a state that Hillary won by +22.
This is an argument for education not for penalizing people for having children!!
Trump won whites with a college degree 49% to 45%.
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Trump won whites with a college degree 49% to 45%.
It doesn't count if you include people who went to Trump University
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How low will they go?
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/10/special-counsel-refers-scheme-targeting-mueller-to-fbi/574411/
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Based on birth rates to preserve a white majority you would need to only allow whites....
I have the opposite view...admit as many non whites as possible as white people have gone batshit crazy and are killing America
Are you Amerinidian or mestizo?
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I'd like to see an immigration policy that preserves the current (diverse, but white majority) racial makeup of America.
I don't like that at all...quota's on race of incoming immigrants
affirmative in-action
Trump is your guy if that's what your are looking for
Oh yes, Trump's my man. Because immigration is the only issue. Please don't be a dumb liberal.
trump may be your man
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/30/breaking-news-speaker-ryan-you-cannot-end-birthright-citizenship-with-an-executive-order-949387?fbclid=IwAR0_EIYNE34KNjUdQIWftt-2oGq-Tex3YtII5Mo5oTi6JNL-78IyPpiHyJ0
President Donald Trump discussing an executive order could deny a constitutional guarantee of citizenship to babies born in the U.S. to noncitizen parents.
although he doesn't have the power to do this...but his base would love this (and space apparently)
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I'd like to see an immigration policy that preserves the current (diverse, but white majority) racial makeup of America.
I don't like that at all...quota's on race of incoming immigrants
affirmative in-action
Trump is your guy if that's what your are looking for
Oh yes, Trump's my man. Because immigration is the only issue. Please don't be a dumb liberal.
trump may be your man
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/30/breaking-news-speaker-ryan-you-cannot-end-birthright-citizenship-with-an-executive-order-949387?fbclid=IwAR0_EIYNE34KNjUdQIWftt-2oGq-Tex3YtII5Mo5oTi6JNL-78IyPpiHyJ0
President Donald Trump discussing an executive order could deny a constitutional guarantee of citizenship to babies born in the U.S. to noncitizen parents.
although he doesn't have the power to do this...but his base would love this (and space apparently)
If we restricted jus soli, we'd be joining such rotten counties as Australia, France, Germany, Ireland, New Zealand, the UK, Spain, Thailand, South Africa, Egypt, Portugal, Greece, and the list goes on.
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Well we can certainly restrict it by passing a constitutional amendment....I think....when was the last time we did that?
But the point is just to throw red meat at the base 7 days before midterms to give them another reason to turn out....I think America has been pretty well served by this Amendment regardless of what other countries do
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This nativism is sucky and really runs counter to American history...not that it hasn’t existed before but who was the last nativist President? It was never a dominant strain as far as I recall
I guess we might as well send the Statue of Liberty back to France
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Based on birth rates to preserve a white majority you would need to only allow whites....
I have the opposite view...admit as many non whites as possible as white people have gone batshit crazy and are killing America
Are you Amerinidian or mestizo?
I don’t know...I could be Amerindian...like Elizabeth Warren....
I generally think of myself as White and then Latino
I don’t see how it is relevant
It is interesting that without jus soli I might not be here....but I never buy into the myth about how incredible it is to be American and tend to think of myself as a citizen of the world...I mean am fine being American but does it make me better than being Swedish or Australian or even Argentine? I was born into an upper middle class family in Argentina and would have ended up fine there...as my cousin is...
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So you are a white American who thinks white people are batshit crazy and being American is overrated? That sounds kind of sad.
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If we restricted jus soli, we'd be joining such rotten counties as Australia, France, Germany, Ireland, New Zealand, the UK, Spain, Thailand, South Africa, Egypt, Portugal, Greece, and the list goes on.
none of those countries have ever relished in the title 'nation of immigrants' or had pride in the statement 'Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free'
but I guess only half the country feels that way
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So you are a white American who thinks white people are batshit crazy and being American is overrated? That sounds kind of sad.
I think a lot of white Americans are batshit crazy or Trump would not be supported by a majority of them but I guess it comes down to semantics and what “batshit crazy” means to me.
Being American is definitely overrated by many. People live longer, healthier and happier lives on average in many countries and yet we have to make ourselves believe we are the greatest.
I have traveled all over the world and one thing I have noticed is everybody thinks their country is amazing and their women the prettiest so maybe Americans are not that different from anyone else. You kind of have to lie to yourself to get up in the morning.
I don’t feel sad about it but I do feel sad for you if you think being an American makes you better in any way than anybody else.
I subscribe to the belief that patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
None of which means I don’t take great pride in the many accomplishments of Americans. A few years ago while undertaking some research into my family I learned I had family that had come to the US from Europe in the pre WWI period going back to the 1890s and one family member who had died fighting in WWII in Italy and that does fill me with some pride particularly since he was a Jew
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are a white American who thinks white people are batshit crazy
I can agree with that statement (not the second part)
Some white people are a little more batshit crazy than others...but it's their smugness that takes the cake
The arrogance of the 'white is right' crowd and 'America is a white nation' I'm mortified that I'm associated with idiots like that
I'm proud and ashamed to be white...but in the end benefit tremulously due to some birth lottery that I won
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I mean maybe I wrote that wrong...I am proud to be American but no prouder than I would be to be French if I were French....and certainly don’t feel better than anyone of another nationality for being American but sometimes I am grateful to have been born here and there are a lot of things I love about this place.
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I'd like to see an immigration policy that preserves the current (diverse, but white majority) racial makeup of America.
I don't like that at all...quota's on race of incoming immigrants
affirmative in-action
Trump is your guy if that's what your are looking for
Oh yes, Trump's my man. Because immigration is the only issue. Please don't be a dumb liberal.
trump may be your man
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/30/breaking-news-speaker-ryan-you-cannot-end-birthright-citizenship-with-an-executive-order-949387?fbclid=IwAR0_EIYNE34KNjUdQIWftt-2oGq-Tex3YtII5Mo5oTi6JNL-78IyPpiHyJ0
President Donald Trump discussing an executive order could deny a constitutional guarantee of citizenship to babies born in the U.S. to noncitizen parents.
although he doesn't have the power to do this...but his base would love this (and space apparently)
jez...asshat Ghram is jumping in feet first on this one
https://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/413832-graham-to-introduce-legislation-ending-birthright-citizenship
"Finally, a president willing to take on this absurd policy of birthright citizenship. I’ve always supported comprehensive immigration reform — and at the same time — the elimination of birthright citizenship," Graham said in a string of tweets.
He added that he plans "to introduce legislation along the same lines as the proposed executive order"
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jez...asshat Ghram is jumping in feet first on this one
It's what anyone auditioning for Trump's Attorney General would do.
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a good case laid out that if Newt wasn't such f'n Machiavellian bastard...we wouldn't have trump and the 'no compromises' stance the Republicans have had since the 90's
The Man Who Broke Politics
Newt Gingrich turned partisan battles into bloodsport, wrecked Congress, and paved the way for Trump’s rise. Now he’s reveling in his achievements.
(https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/11/newt-gingrich-says-youre-welcome/570832/)
(https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/2018/09/26/WEL_Coppins_NewtOpener/1920.jpg?1539287387)
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Nice website.
http://www.tedcruz.com/
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a good case laid out that if Newt wasn't such f'n Machiavellian bastard...we wouldn't have trump and the 'no compromises' stance the Republicans have had since the 90's
Funny. I was listening to the Economist this morning on my way to work and heard this line:
"America’s democracy is robust—it was designed to be. However, one by one, its institutions are being infected with toxic polarisation. Congress caught the bug in the 1990s, when Newt Gingrich was Speaker."
I audibly said "Thank you" referencing how his damage is not often enough referred to as the precursor for where we are today. In 1994 I ran my only campaign - a Democrat in Orange County (Anaheim) for State Assembly. I didn't expect to win, but I didn't expect to lose by 30 points either. And it was all Gingrich and that Contract with America. Scarred me - I didn't work on another campaign until 2008, so discouraged by the electorate.
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He is a fucking asshole of assholes.
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I see Newt at Giant every once in a while. My wife says he's a pig who leers at all the women while he shops.
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I see Newt at Giant every once in a while. My wife says he's a pig who leers at all the women while he shops.
Next time you/she sees him, please ask him what the best song he heard while shopping was and post on appropriate thread. Thanks.
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I see Newt at Giant every once in a while. My wife says he's a pig who leers at all the women while he shops.
Next time you/she sees him, please ask him what the best song he heard while shopping was and post on appropriate thread. Thanks.
LOL
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Trump sent a retired teacher a letter about gun policy. She fixed the grammar and sent it back
(https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/180527074630-teacher-corrects-trump-letter-super-tease.jpg)
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That's a neat stunt but not only did Trump not write that letter, he probably has no idea it even exists
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(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/46303949_10156851323616779_1683562162817073152_n.png?_nc_cat=111&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-1.xx&oh=5cf101ba52ee7723e4dcd6819e86b8b6&oe=5CADADE8)
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Tomi ...god she says the most nauseating things
Do you think she has a writer or she comes up with this shit on her own
Trump crowd loves it too...she's a petite female blond (fake ...oh the irony) who revels in liberal tears and is not big on facts.
actually got a B.A. in broadcast journalism and political science in 2014 from UNLV (known for their outstanding journalism school)
this article was written right after she graduated
https://www.reviewjournal.com/local/local-las-vegas/review-unlv-journalism-school-needs-overhaul/
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“I would give myself an A+. Is that enough? Can I go higher than that?”
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Not only did Trump pardon the turkey this year, he also pardoned the Salman.
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Saudis are garbage...in Yemen they have caused a crisis that has led to tens of thousands of children to starve to death
With our backing
Of course Iran is the enemy we are told
We have been hearing about Saudi modernization for most of my life yet they have never been so brazen...as this past two years
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this is awesome:
A DC neighborhood group just voted to rename the street in front of the Saudi embassy for Jamal Khashoggi (https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/29/politics/khashoggi-street-renaming-trnd/index.html)
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I don't know the veracity of this...but kind of hysterical
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/47152456_10218259536544016_1017188005338677248_n.jpg?_nc_cat=103&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=0086c299b38fc646f91638537542a3f5&oe=5CB16315)
so many innocent lives, so many
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https://mavenroundtable.io/theintellectualist/news/video-trump-voter-if-trump-had-to-cheat-to-get-in-i-m-ok-with-that-ZzNs_Ay6_EG1E83kjeqKuQ/
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Deplorable
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Michael Flynn Timeline: (this is a long'ish read, but worth it)
April 2014 — Flynn is fired as director of the Defense Intelligence Agency ("abusive with staff, didn't listen, worked against policy, bad management, etc." per Colin Powell).
Oct. 2014 — Flynn founds Flynn Intel Group. In a letter from the DIA, Flynn is warned that he is prohibited from receiving "consulting fees, gifts, travel expenses, honoraria, or salary ... from a foreign government unless congressional consent is first obtained".
Summer 2015 — Flynn is paid by ACU Strategic Partners to travel to the Middle East to promote a trillion-dollar Saudi-financed U.S.–Russian business to develop nuclear power capabilities in the Arab world. Flynn does not disclose this trip when applying for his security clearance renewal in Jan. 2016
Late Summer 2015 — Flynn begins advising the Trump campaign.
Aug. 2015 — Flynn receives a $15,000 speaking fee from Volga-Dnepr Airlines, a Russian airfreight company that the U.N. had suspended from its list of approved vendors after a corruption scandal involving an indicted Russian U.N. official.
Oct. 2015 — Flynn receives a $15,000 speaking fee from a subsidiary Kaspersky Lab. Ruslan Stoyanov, head of Kaspersky's computer incidents investigation unit is arrested in Russia, for treason, in December 2016.
Flynn travels to Saudi Arabia to again promote the Saudi/Russian nuclear project. He fails to disclose the nature of the travel and reports a fictional hotel name as his residence during the trip.
Dec. 2 — Flynn and his son meet with Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak at his Washington, D.C. residence. In a subsequent email to the Russian embassy, Flynn’s son described the meeting as “very productive”. The meeting came to light publicly only in April 2018.
Dec. 10 — Seated directly at Vladimir Putin's right hand, Flynn appears in Moscow at a gala hosted by Kremlin-controlled propaganda outlet Russia Today (RT). RT pays Flynn $45,000 for his participation and provides airfare, accommodations and other expenses for Flynn and his son.
U.S. intelligence notices an uptick in communication between Flynn and Kislyak shortly after.
Feb. 2016 — Flynn increases his role with the Trump campaign and is later vetted as a possible VP pick.
Feb. 11 — While applying for renewal of his security clearance, Flynn tells Pentagon investigators that he had received no income from foreign companies and had only “insubstantial contact” with foreign nationals.
May 2016 — Flynn joins the advisory board of OSY Technologies, part of the NSO Group, a secretive cyberweapons dealer founded by former Israeli intelligence officials. NSO's spyware is subsequently found to have been used to attack and surveil prominent journalists and human rights activists.
July 18 — Flynn leads crowds at the Republican National Convention in chants of "Lock her up!", saying "if I did a tenth of what she did, I would be in jail today!".
Aug. 9 — Flynn signs a contract with Inovo, a firm owned by Ekim Alptekin, a close ally and appointee of Turkey’s president, Recep Tayyip Erdogan. Flynn is assigned to run an influence campaign to discredit Fethullah Gulen, a Turkish cleric who lives in Pennsylvania and was blamed by Erdogan for a failed coup.
Summer 2016 — Flynn Intel begins work on a pro-Turkey documentary, hiring professionals to shoot it, misleading them about the intentions of the project and working to conceal its role in producing the film.
Aug. 17 — Flynn begins attending classified intelligence briefings with candidate Trump.
Sept. 3 — Flynn and associates begin reaching out to Russian hackers in an attempt to obtain Clinton's personal e-mails and transmit them to Flynn through an intermediary.
Sept. 19 — Flynn meets with Turkey's ministers of foreign affairs and energy, Erdogan's son-in-law, and other officials at an undisclosed New York hotel, in a meeting arranged by Alptekin. Among other topics, Flynn discusses a plan for "a covert step in the dead of night to whisk [Gulen] away" without going through the legal extradition process.
Sept. 20 — Flynn, his son and business partners meet with Dana Rohrabacher, a U.S. congressman best known as a staunch advocate of pro-Russia policies.
Nov. 8 — Election day. Flynn publishes a lengthy op-ed entitled "Our ally Turkey is in crisis and needs our support". He states that "we need to see the world from Turkey’s perspective" and brands Gulen as "a radical Islamist". Flynn does not disclose to the publisher that he was being paid by Alptekin.
Nov. 10 — Obama, in a face-to-face conversation with Trump, warns against hiring Flynn to be part of Trump's national security team.
Nov. 11 — Media reports expose Flynn's contract with Alptekin to lobby on behalf of Turkey.
Nov. 14 — Flynn receives the final installment of $530,000 from Alptekin.
Nov. 18 — Flynn accepts Trump's offer of the position of National Security Advisor. Pence receives a letter from Rep. Cummings notifying him of Flynn's work on behalf of Turkey.
Nov. 30 — The Justice Department notifies Flynn that it is scrutinizing his work lobbying on behalf of the Turkish government.
Nov./Dec. 2016 — Flynn meets with Austrian far-right leader Heinz-Christian Strache at Trump Tower. Strache announces weeks later that his party has signed a cooperation agreement with Vladimir Putin's ruling party.
Dec. 1 — Flynn meets with Russian ambassador Kislyak and Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner at Trump Tower. The men discuss the possibility of setting up a secret and secure communications channel between Trump’s transition team and the Kremlin, using Russian diplomatic facilities to shield their discussions from monitoring.
Mid-Dec. — Flynn meets with the Turkish government to discuss an offer to pay him and his son as much as $15 million to kidnap Gulen and deliver him to a Turkish prison island.
Dec. 22 — Flynn secretly asks Kislyak for Russia's help to delay or defeat a pending UN Security Council resolution.
Dec. 29 — Flynn secretly discusses relief from U.S. sanctions with Kislyak on the same day the Obama administration announces its response to Russian interference in the campaign.
Jan. 4 — Flynn tells Trump’s transition team that he is under federal investigation for secretly working as a paid lobbyist for Turkey during the campaign.
Jan. 6 (approx.) — The FBI begins investigating Flynn's late December phone conversations with Kislyak.
Jan. 12 — Conforming to the wishes of Turkey, Flynn instructs the Obama administration to hold off on a military operation to retake the Islamic State’s de facto capital of Raqqa with Syrian Kurdish forces.
Jan. 18 — Flynn attends a “working breakfast” with the Foreign Minister of Turkey and others, including Devin Nunes, chairman of the House Intelligence Committee.
Jan. 20 — Trump is inaugurated. Flynn becomes National Security Advisor.
Eleven minutes into the Trump presidency, Flynn texts ACU managing partner Alex Copson that the Russian nuclear plan is "good to go" and "to put things in place". Copson tells associates that Flynn would ensure that sanctions against Russia are "ripped up" and that "this is going to make a lot of very wealthy people".
Jan. 22 — The WSJ reports that Flynn is under investigation by U.S. counterintelligence agents regarding his communications with Russian officials.
Jan. 24 — The FBI interviews Flynn regarding his Russian contacts.
Jan. 26 — Acting Attorney General Sally Yates informs the White House that Flynn misled the FBI in his interview, that the DOJ knew that Flynn’s public accounts were untrue, and expressed concerns that he was vulnerable to blackmail by Russian intelligence.
Jan. 30 — Trump fires Yates.
Feb. 13 — Flynn is forced out of his role as NSA after The Washington Post reports on Yates's warning to the Trump White House.
Feb. 14 — In a private conversation with FBI director Comey, Trump asks Comey to end any investigation into Flynn, stating “I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting Flynn go. He is a good guy. I hope you can let this go.”
March 7 — Flynn files paperwork acknowledging that he worked as a foreign agent representing the interests of the Turkish government.
March 22 — Trump asks Director of National Intelligence Coats to intervene with Comey to get the FBI to back off its focus on Flynn.
March 30 — Flynn tells the FBI and congressional officials that he is willing to be interviewed in exchange for immunity from prosecution, with his lawyer stating that “General Flynn has a story to tell, and he very much wants to tell it, should the circumstances permit”.
April 25 — Flynn tells associates, “I just got a message from the president to stay strong”.
April/May — Federal prosecutors issue grand jury subpoenas to Flynn associates seeking “records, research, contracts, bank records, communications” relating to Flynn and Alptekin.
May 9 — Trump fires Comey.
May 22 — A House committee reveals that Flynn lied to Pentagon investigators about the source of money he received from RT when applying for security clearance in 2016.
Flynn announces that he will not cooperate with a subpoena requiring him to hand over documents related to his dealings with Russians.
June 2 — Special Counsel Mueller assumes control of a grand jury investigation into Flynn.
August — Flynn files paperwork disclosing payments from SCL Group, a Virginia-based company related to Cambridge Analytica.
Dec. 1 — Flynn pleads guilty to willfully and knowingly lying to the FBI about his December 2016 conversations with Kislyak.
Dec. 4, 2018 — Mueller cites Flynn's "substantial" assistance with several criminal investigations when he recommends a sentence includes little to no jail time.
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/a37jjv/megathread_special_counsel_calls_exnational/eb46qu1/
Annotated/sourced version: https://www.reddit.com/user/Flynn_Timeline/comments/a39o9c/flynn_timeline_with_source_links/ (missing last entry)
Full discussion: https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/a37jjv/megathread_special_counsel_calls_exnational/ (with classics like: "Trump asks Comey for leniency on Flynn. Comey says no, gets fired. Mueller takes over the investigation, gives leniency to Flynn. President is gonna be thrilled, right?")
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Please, keep it coming Jr - it's definitely a 'very, very large brain' idea to troll a member of a body that will have subpoena power in a month."
"Have fun!" she added.
the speed of the news is really insane.... God. I long for the days of old where maybe once a week I dug into politics.
So I knew people were Sour on Whitaker but I didn't know he was off the block and Barr was getting nominated... Wow an actually respected bureaucrat
What's also kind of interesting is that he worked for CNN.... Can't believe Trump was able to swallow his tongue in that one
What is with all the newscasters, Jesus Christ.. now the ambassador for the US... Honestly has more to do with how they spin and look then they're content and expertise
Also no longer a cabinet position
No class on his comments on tillerson (schocker) basically he was pissed off that he wouldn't be as puppet and break the law.
And all the Mueller stuff on Friday
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NO SMOCK SCREEN; NO SMOCK SCREEN. What an embarrassment.
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smocking gun!!! (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1072095127894667265)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DuDiiGkXgAEGcNn.jpg)
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“It’s like a manhood thing for him. As if manhood could ever be associated with him. This wall thing,” Pelosi said, according to a congressional aide in the room. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/12/11/house-minority-leader-nancy-pelosi-questions-trumps-manhood-after-confrontational-white-house-meeting/?utm_term=.836e3a251eb9)
Can't wait to see his Twitter response :o
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I believe it was Bob Dole who said, "The most dangerous place in Washington is between Chuck Schumer and a TV camera."
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In a conversation on Fox and Friends this morning, Michael Goodwin, a New York Post columnist, suggested that Trump voters should come together and pay for the border wall.
As the threat of a government shutdown over funding for Trump’s $5 billion border wall looms, Fox and Friends host, Brian Kilmeade wondered, “is there a private way to do this?”
Goodwin enthusiastically replied, “there is, you can create a GoFundMe operation.”
The New York Post columnist cited an existing fundraising effort called FundTheWall.com, which he insisted has “raised some money”, but he concedes, “nowhere near what is needed.”
“According to my mail,” Goodwin continued, “a lot of people are willing to chip in.” He described one reader that wrote to him, “and says if the 63 million people who voted for Donald Trump each contributed $80, that would get you near the $5 billion mark.”
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Self serving post, Space.
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Self serving post, Space.
I don't understand what you are saying.
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I think he's saying you're Mexican
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Space get your family to pay for the wall!
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Self serving post, Space.
I don't understand what you are saying.
You suffer most if there's a government shutdown...
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Self serving post, Space.
I don't understand what you are saying.
You suffer most if there's a government shutdown...
I would not be affected at all by this partial government shutdown. Though my heart goes out to those who would be.
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I would not be affected at all by this partial government shutdown. Though my heart goes out to those who would be.
Then Trump is definitely doing it all wrong. Thoughts and prayers....
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Understatement
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trump's sham of a "charity" is being shut down by court order, (https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/18/politics/trump-foundation-dissolve/index.html) charges likely to follow in the new year.
hopefully this is the first trump org of many to go down like this. sounds like his inaugural committee is next...
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^while this all shows in black and white that he is really scum and the courts are proving it (his base doesn't care...)
What really bugged me the most is he had the non-profit buy himself 2 paintings of himself for $30k One went to his golf course and apparently the other one is missing
it doesn't seem like any of this really matters...
"I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters,"
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True and that is a fundamental problem with America....not Trump but tens of millions of deplorables and uneducated people easily controlled by a demagogue
It’s hard to make sense of it though....it’s quite a decline... The overextension of US power in the wake of 9-11 (I read recently that estimates are that we have spent $6 trillion on our various fictitious wars) combined with tax cuts by both 43 and 45 may do us in yet...reminds one of the decline of the Roman Empire but then again Gore Vidal was writing about this decades ago so who can say? The US economy is extremely resilient
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Goodwin enthusiastically replied, “there is, you can create a GoFundMe operation.”
“According to my mail,” Goodwin continued, “a lot of people are willing to chip in.” He described one reader that wrote to him, “and says if the 63 million people who voted for Donald Trump each contributed $80, that would get you near the $5 billion mark.”
Found the perfect last minute holiday gift for your MAGA relatives
https://www.gofundme.com/thetrumpwall
$12,475,646 of $1.0B goal
Raised by 204,669 people in 4 days
man...just imagine 200k people donating something that would actually help America
I kinda admire their enthusiasm and putting their money where their mouth is....but this is just SAD and xenophobic
so should we take down the statue of liberty?
do you think France would take it back?
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Goodwin enthusiastically replied, “there is, you can create a GoFundMe operation.”
“According to my mail,” Goodwin continued, “a lot of people are willing to chip in.” He described one reader that wrote to him, “and says if the 63 million people who voted for Donald Trump each contributed $80, that would get you near the $5 billion mark.”
Found the perfect last minute holiday gift for your MAGA relatives
https://www.gofundme.com/thetrumpwall
Already at 2.5 million!
double edit...getting ready to break $5mil
$4,982,813 of $1.0B goal
Raised by 81,668 people in 3 days
I'm kind of impressed, been getting a lot of coverage in the trump friendly media
I don't agree with them, but 80K people putting their money where their mouth is better than annoying facebook memes
Does Scott McCaughey get to keep the money if they don't actually build a wall?
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Does Scott McCaughey get to keep the money if they don't actually build a wall?
huh?
Stroke
McCaughey suffered a stroke on November 16, 2017. Two benefit concerts were held in January, 2018, to raise money for McCaughey's medical bills. Artists included Peter Buck, Mike Mills, Bill Berry, Alejandro Escovedo, M Ward, James Mercer, Corin Tucker, the Dharma Bums, the Decemberists, and Patterson Hood.[7] McCaughey recovered substantially from his stroke in 2018 and began playing a series of well received shows at venues in Portland, Oregon, where he lives.
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Does Scott McCaughey get to keep the money if they don't actually build a wall?
huh?
Stroke
McCaughey suffered a stroke on November 16, 2017. Two benefit concerts were held in January, 2018, to raise money for McCaughey's medical bills. Artists included Peter Buck, Mike Mills, Bill Berry, Alejandro Escovedo, M Ward, James Mercer, Corin Tucker, the Dharma Bums, the Decemberists, and Patterson Hood.[7] McCaughey recovered substantially from his stroke in 2018 and began playing a series of well received shows at venues in Portland, Oregon, where he lives.
Do you think he got to keep the remainder of the GoFundMe that raised 85K for his recovery if his recovery didn't really cost 85K?
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Does Scott McCaughey get to keep the money if they don't actually build a wall?
huh?
Stroke
McCaughey suffered a stroke on November 16, 2017. Two benefit concerts were held in January, 2018, to raise money for McCaughey's medical bills. Artists included Peter Buck, Mike Mills, Bill Berry, Alejandro Escovedo, M Ward, James Mercer, Corin Tucker, the Dharma Bums, the Decemberists, and Patterson Hood.[7] McCaughey recovered substantially from his stroke in 2018 and began playing a series of well received shows at venues in Portland, Oregon, where he lives.
Do you think he got to keep the remainder of the GoFundMe that raised 85K for his recovery if his recovery didn't really cost 85K?
not sure...but if you are without medical coverage...it's not hard to drop $100k just for a week stay at the hospital
I know as I've seen bills for my sisters surgery and stay ($250k) and my dad's by-pass ($125K)
thankfully was almost zero out of pocket for my family
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Goodwin enthusiastically replied, “there is, you can create a GoFundMe operation.”
“According to my mail,” Goodwin continued, “a lot of people are willing to chip in.” He described one reader that wrote to him, “and says if the 63 million people who voted for Donald Trump each contributed $80, that would get you near the $5 billion mark.”
Found the perfect last minute holiday gift for your MAGA relatives
https://www.gofundme.com/thetrumpwall
double edit...getting ready to break $5mil
been getting a lot of coverage in the trump friendly media
jez at $5.5 mil and showing no signs of slowing down
a funny response gofundme
https://www.gofundme.com/ladders-to-get-over-trump039s-wall
although only raised $14k....but ladders are cheap...
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Does Scott McCaughey get to keep the money if they don't actually build a wall?
huh?
Stroke
McCaughey suffered a stroke on November 16, 2017. Two benefit concerts were held in January, 2018, to raise money for McCaughey's medical bills. Artists included Peter Buck, Mike Mills, Bill Berry, Alejandro Escovedo, M Ward, James Mercer, Corin Tucker, the Dharma Bums, the Decemberists, and Patterson Hood.[7] McCaughey recovered substantially from his stroke in 2018 and began playing a series of well received shows at venues in Portland, Oregon, where he lives.
Do you think he got to keep the remainder of the GoFundMe that raised 85K for his recovery if his recovery didn't really cost 85K?
not sure...but if you are without medical coverage...it's not hard to drop $100k just for a week stay at the hospital
I know as I've seen bills for my sisters surgery and stay ($250k) and my dad's by-pass ($125K)
thankfully was almost zero out of pocket for my family
Do people still incur those kinds of weekly charges even with Obamacare in place? I'm legitimately curious from my DC bubble.
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Well he may not have had healthcare
Obamacare did not fix all issues
Like there are different levels of coverage depending on what you pay for
God you really are clueless
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Well he may not have had healthcare
Obamacare did not fix all issues
Like there are different levels of coverage depending on what you pay for
God you really are clueless
Well you know next to nil about beer and marathon running.
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Do people still incur those kinds of weekly charges even with Obamacare in place? I'm legitimately curious from my DC bubble.
yup, they can still happen. obamacare did not fix the criminally high prices that patients are charged in this country (yes, it curbed some excesses... but not nearly enough). luckily the ACA got rid of lifetime limits, so insurance companies can't say "sorry, you've hit your $100k max, the rest of the bill is up to you".
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Well you know next to nil about beer and marathon running.
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/CourteousEnergeticKitfox-size_restricted.gif)
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Do people still incur those kinds of weekly charges even with Obamacare in place? I'm legitimately curious from my DC bubble.
yup, they can still happen. obamacare did not fix the criminally high prices that patients are charged in this country (yes, it curbed some excesses... but not nearly enough). luckily the ACA got rid of lifetime limits, so insurance companies can't say "sorry, you've hit your $100k max, the rest of the bill is up to you".
Apparently, he had insurance, Peter Buck, and $125K from the GoFundMe account. I guess my point is...if his medical bills only used 75K from the GoFundMe, does he get to pocket 50K?
https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/rock/8474345/minus-5-scott-mccaughey-recovery-interview
And my initial point...if people donate a billion dollars to build the wall through GoFundMe and they don't use the money....who gets to keep the money?
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Goodwin enthusiastically replied, “there is, you can create a GoFundMe operation.”
“According to my mail,” Goodwin continued, “a lot of people are willing to chip in.” He described one reader that wrote to him, “and says if the 63 million people who voted for Donald Trump each contributed $80, that would get you near the $5 billion mark.”
Found the perfect last minute holiday gift for your MAGA relatives
https://www.gofundme.com/thetrumpwall
$12,475,646 of $1.0B goal
Raised by 204,669 people in 4 days
man...just imagine 200k people donating something that would actually help America
I kinda admire their enthusiasm and putting their money where their mouth is....but this is just SAD and xenophobic
so should we take down the statue of liberty?
do you think France would take it back?
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so should we take down the statue of liberty?
Obviously a trojan horse for all the Muslims to sneak in.
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[ kinda admire their enthusiasm and putting their money where their mouth is....
Let's not lose perspective. Four days in and .3% of the people who voted for Trump have raised 1.2% of the money needed to fund only 4% of Trumps wall.
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[ kinda admire their enthusiasm and putting their money where their mouth is....
Let's not lose perspective. Four days in and .3% of the people who voted for Trump have raised 1.2% of the money needed to fund only 4% of Trumps wall.
there you go using math again...Fact's are for losers!
in addition the 5B number is a low low ball estimate
the original estimates were 20B
And you know how gov't spends money wastefully (i.e. space) so probably double that
so 12 mill raised of 40B...drop in the ocean
not including ongoing costs, which are in the 100s of millions a year
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[ kinda admire their enthusiasm and putting their money where their mouth is....
Let's not lose perspective. Four days in and .3% of the people who voted for Trump have raised 1.2% of the money needed to fund only 4% of Trumps wall.
in addition the 5B number is a low low ball estimate
the original estimates were 20B
And you know how gov't spends money wastefully (i.e. space) so probably double that
so 12 mill raised of 40B...drop in the ocean
not including ongoing costs, which are in the 100s of millions a year
I used $25B because that was the "conservative" estimate Fox News has been using, but yes, I agree, it's much more.
204,669 / 62,984,828 = .3%
$12,475,646 of $1B = 1.2%
$1B of $25b = 4%
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Goodwin enthusiastically replied, “there is, you can create a GoFundMe operation.”
“According to my mail,” Goodwin continued, “a lot of people are willing to chip in.” He described one reader that wrote to him, “and says if the 63 million people who voted for Donald Trump each contributed $80, that would get you near the $5 billion mark.”
Found the perfect last minute holiday gift for your MAGA relatives
https://www.gofundme.com/thetrumpwall
$12,475,646 of $1.0B goal
Raised by 204,669 people in 4 days
man...just imagine 200k people donating something that would actually help America
I kinda admire their enthusiasm and putting their money where their mouth is....but this is just SAD and xenophobic
so should we take down the statue of liberty?
do you think France would take it back?
I don't believe many of these people would have hit the donate button if they actually believed it would come close to their goal and thus require them to actually pay.
It's just a no cost way to back Trump for them.
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It's just a no cost way to back Trump for them.
I think the most karmic scenario would be if hackers somehow got into that GoFundMe and drained people's bank accounts and all the money went to some Russian crime syndicate
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I do think we can thank Trump for this...
(https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/5c2d1d9f1d00002c0231b4ee.jpeg?cache=jq5rhdxll8&ops=scalefit_720_noupscale)
totally unrelated...but what a great pic
(https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5c2d2cd4dde867312e2711c7-1920-1440.jpg)
and in another totally unrelated photo
(https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5c24ed8bbd77303e235b9742-1920-1280.jpg)
presidential flip flops (http://www.samthecobra.com/presidentflipflops/)
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this should make team trump very anxious
(https://www.readingeagle.com/storyimage/RE/20190103/NEWS/190109982/AR/0/AR-190109982.jpg&maxH=500&maxW=750&Q=40)
and this guys new job...
(https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2018_45/2637851/181107-adam-schiff-se-532p_4146dfe84a3395a9dffd2bcb7b27cefe.fit-760w.jpg)
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Some classic quotes all in 1 90+ minute Cabinet meeting
"When they say I'm not popular in Europe, I shouldn't be popular in Europe."
"I don't care about Europe."
"I could be the most popular person in Europe. I could be -- I could run for any office if I wanted to, but I don't want to."
"I think I would've been a good general, but who knows."
"Nicest machine guns I've ever seen."
"I could have had a lot easier presidency by doing nothing." (we can only dream)
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@realDonaldTrump 1.4.19
How do you impeach a president who has won perhaps the greatest election of all time, done nothing wrong (no Collusion with Russia, it was the Dems that Colluded), had the most successful first two years of any president, and is the most popular Republican in party history 93%?
the last part is true (only truth in this twat) and still very scary with all we know...
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Why is it so hard for him and a Republicans to realize they also represent people that don’t vote for or support them?!?
Seems so obvious
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Unfortunately I find Trump effective in this press conference....it’s almost accidental but effective....the press on the other hand
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Anybody see the Shutdown as a hail mary by Trump and McConnell to have the agencies operating normally when Mueller's report is released in February and the arrests start flying?
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to have the agencies operating normally when Mueller's report is released in February and the arrests start flying?
you lost me...please explain
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He must be at grocery store
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no one is going to blink...and that really sucks for so many people
I really think that Congress should have to go without pay during something like this too (not that would happen)
Predictions of his prime time "Wall Speech" tonight?
Can I a least get some good suggestions for a drinking game?
Do we think Team Trump might float this idea....$6bill for the 'border security' and in exchange ... issue amnesty to 700,000 Dreamers
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Is it tonight?!?
I thought it was tomorrow anyways who cares just lies
I just can’t get into the wall under any circumstance
I can get into addressing illegal immigration but not the wall...I just hate the idea....until Trump gets re-elected I see no reason for it...only a minority supports it
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One killed in crash on Baltimore Washington Parkway but police can't provide details because of shutdown (https://www.capitalgazette.com/news/for_the_record/ac-cn-parkway-fatal-20190107-story.html)
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no one is going to blink...and that really sucks for so many people
I really think that Congress should have to go without pay during something like this too (not that would happen)
Predictions of his prime time "Wall Speech" tonight?
Can I a least get some good suggestions for a drinking game?
Do we think Team Trump might float this idea....$6bill for the 'border security' and in exchange ... issue amnesty to 700,000 Dreamers
He already had a deal for 25 billion for the Wall with amnesty for the Dreamers on the table and he vetoed it, right?
He's not going to offer anything. He's going to declare a "National Emergency" whereby he doesn't need Congress to have the wall built.
And the speech is Tues night.
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Predictions of his prime time "Wall Speech" Edit....Tuesday night
Do we think Team Trump might float this idea....$6bill for the 'border security' and in exchange ... issue amnesty to 700,000 Dreamers
He already had a deal for 25 billion for the Wall with amnesty for the Dreamers on the table and he vetoed it, right?
He's not going to offer anything. He's going to declare a "National Emergency" whereby he doesn't need Congress to have the wall built.
I think you meant $5 bill...right
I don't know what the exact wording of the DACA part was in that
and he didn't veto it...the House didn't pass the senate version to get to his desk (although he would have and surely made a big deal about it)
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Ugh no he means $25 billion in early 2018 but things have changed
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The idea that you could build a wall to span all that geography much of it privately owned for $5B or $25B or even $50b is so asinine.
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oh yeah...chezburgr summit in march 2018 (was that a century ago or just last decade?)
Why Didn’t Trump Just Take the Border Wall Deal? The president wants to satisfy his base, but he wouldn’t take yes for an answer (https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/03/trump-should-have-accepted-democrats-border-wall-offer.html)
[All Trump] had to do was accept a 10- to 14-year path to citizenship for children of undocumented immigrants brought to the United States at a young age.
That deal has been on the table for more than a month now: Trump gives Democrats a path to citizenship for 1.8 million Dreamers; Democrats give Trump his full $25 billion wall funding request. […]
It is confounding that Trump didn’t just take the deal.
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(https://www.historyfactory.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Joe-Isuzu-1200x800-c-center.jpg)
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Predictions of his prime time "Wall Speech" tonight?
one prediction that i can confirm: i won't be watching the address live. and neither should anyone else. don't give that monster your viewership. he craves the ratings. don't give it to him. watch the recap on CNN (or wherever) later.
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Predictions of his prime time "Wall Speech" tonight?
one prediction that i can confirm: i won't be watching the address live. and neither should anyone else. don't give that monster your viewership. he craves the ratings. don't give it to him. watch the recap on CNN (or wherever) later.
Do tv's come with devices that monitor viewership? How will they know whether I'm watching or not? Don't you have to be a Nielsen Family to affect the ratings?
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Why watch? It will all be lies...
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Why watch? It will all be lies...
Of course it will be. But it's better drama than any of the normal network offerings. And I don't have cable.
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Craig T Nelson has had such an underrated career. He was in Poltergeist and Coach and Action Jackson and now he reveals what we watch on TV. Get that man on a stamp, USPS.
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you got great programing before the speech tonight!
NCIS, the Connors! (does team trump still like eventho no Rosanne?), Ellen Game of Game's and Lethal Weapon
Supposed to start at 9PM
Trump will speak for no longer than eight minutes, The Hill reported. Networks to broadcast the presidential address include CNN, Fox News, MSNBC, NBC, ABC, CBS, PBS and Fox
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The CW is yelling checkmate, bitches.
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Just pop in one of those videotapes you pick up at the library sales 10 for $1...anything but Trump bs
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No home alone 2
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Bernie to give his own rebuttal
“Hmmm...how can I make this about me and step on the Pelosi/Schumer response”
History will not be kind to Bernie or his supporters in 2016
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an andy b headline...but I think it's great
Nation with Crumbling Bridges and Roads Excited to Build Giant Wall
I don't think history will even remember bernie...maybe a footnote somewhere
this made me chuckle
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/49376838_1704828632949914_3506879520609140736_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=713f6f5394a96dbd88ea6a3f57cdeca8&oe=5C900A2E)
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Bernie to give his own rebuttal
“Hmmm...how can I make this about me and step on the Pelosi/Schumer response”
History will not be kind to Bernie or his supporters in 2016
He probably would have beaten Trump.
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Y'all watch. I've got academic journal articles to read.
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Bernie to give his own rebuttal
“Hmmm...how can I make this about me and step on the Pelosi/Schumer response”
History will not be kind to Bernie or his supporters in 2016
He probably would have beaten Trump.
nah, he would have lost too.
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waste of time
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These four years feel like a waste of time which is sad when you are pushing 50
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These four years feel like a waste of time which is sad when you are pushing 50
Nixon+Reagan+Bush1+Cheney+Trump=more than half our lives.
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Can I a least get some good suggestions for a drinking game?
So didn't watch and sounds like I didn't miss much
saw a clip and he sounded like a robot
but did see this warning from a doctor
Doctors Warn Drinking A Shot Every Time Trump Lies During Speech Will Result In Death (https://www.burrardstreetjournal.com/doctors-warn-drinking-a-shot-every-time-trump-lies-tonight-will-result-in-death/)
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The current shit show is off the charts compared to the typical retrograde moronicism of the Republicans
Bush 43 was bad though...
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Foreshadowing at it's finest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpQSilWvjcs
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“The age of self-inflicted American shame is over, and so are the policies that produced so much needless suffering,” Pompeo proclaimed at the American University in Cairo
over...seems like it started two years ago?
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I hope he declares a national emergency
That way in two years we can declare one on guns and health care
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And on the environment
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"Why can't we just use thoughts and prayers to protect our border? That is what we use to protect our schools."
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"Why can't we just use thoughts and prayers to protect our border? That is what we use to protect our schools."
And guns for all the teachers...
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Ermahgerd hamberders
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1085159285208858624?s=19
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Ermahgerd hamberders
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1085159285208858624?s=19
deleted?
what was this?
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what was this?
Covfefe.
(https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/5c3e0e543b00005300688f07.png?ops=crop_15_12_474_312,scalefit_720_noupscale)
Burger King
@BurgerKing 2 hours ago
due to a large order placed yesterday, we're all out of hamberders.
just serving hamburgers today.
https://twitter.com/BurgerKing/status/1085213382192627717
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Fuck... if true.. now he must be impeached..
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Halfway point of this debacle
God I do not believe in give me strength to endure two more years
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Halfway point of this debacle
God I do not believe in give me strength to endure two more years
just wait 'til trump is impeached, and pence takes over - then you'll believe in god. HIS GOD.
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this is from foxnews....
estimate that the shutdown is costing the American public somewhere around $40 billion (https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/the-cost-of-the-shutdown-a-statisticians-estimate)
No one knew that the type of art in his "Art of the Deal" was avant-garde
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f6/Duchamp_Fountaine.jpg/200px-Duchamp_Fountaine.jpg)
this is classic
Nate Silver @NateSilver538
....conceding was probably Trump's least-worst option in the long run. The shutdown had basically turned into a World Cup of Own Goals.
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"This POTUS is working harder for the American people than anyone in recent history," Madeleine Westerhout, who serves as the president's personal secretary, claimed on Twitter on Sunday
apparently his BS is contagious
a Sunday report from Axios revealing the details of Trump's "leaked private schedules," which suggested that Trump had been dedicating an average of 60 percent of each day to "executive time," including watching television, tweeting and taking phone calls.
also he let this one loose too...guy is amazing!
"you can't impeach somebody for doing the best job of any president, in the history of our country, for the first two years."
We should really just scrap democracy and make him King...he's doing it all for us, we are not worthy
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Trump never liked Gillespie or being linked to the pasting Gillespie took in VA so of course he is going to take a gratuitous shot at him....
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Was that the Guilty Remnant at the State of the Union?
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“An economic miracle is taking place in the United States and the only thing that can stop it are foolish wars, politics or ridiculous partisan investigations.” ~President @realDonaldTrump
So would sane bi-partisan investigations allow this 'miracle' to continue?
and if anyone is taking us into foolish wars, I'm greatly concerned it will be Trump
and can someone define 'an economic miracle'
Sounds like if it's a miracle, he had nothing to do with it
or that the plans were crap, but the economy grew regardless what team trump did?
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“An economic miracle is taking place in the United States and the only thing that can stop it are foolish wars, politics or ridiculous partisan investigations.” ~President @realDonaldTrump
On the bright side, Nixon said something similar and was gone in 6 months.
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I think talking up the economy and trying to boost confidence are a basic task any president should do
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(https://media0.giphy.com/media/8PBfNDoySmsRc49P4F/giphy.gif?cid=3640f6095c5b0a1430756c7245a0dc00)
that was a weird smile transition tho...
did she throw up in her mouth a little?
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Love this gif
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Best caption I saw only was that’s how a drag queen claps for another drag queen they’re beefing with.
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Dang girl, Nance lookin thirsty there
And I feel like a big tall glass of refreshment to fill u up bb
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Street Artist JR Installs Massive Face of a Child on Mexican Side..
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/51484219_10213877637675539_204369430300327936_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=9915437cf73a97b87e1f1ce9a1563419&oe=5CB48F14)
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^ awesome
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@realDonaldTrump
The Democrats are so self righteous and ANGRY! Loosen up and have some fun. The Country is doing well!
Word's fail me to create a response
also, what the heck happened....Rasmussen poll (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_track_feb11) is saying Trump is at 52% approval?
(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/02/11/17/9679690-6691891-image-a-1_1549904535955.jpg)
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Well Rasmussen is not credible but..,,,
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Well Rasmussen is not credible but..,,,
yeah didn't realize that Nate give them a C+ rating
didn't realize they were not credible
Should have guessed when donny says things like this: “Thank you to Rasmussen for the honest polling."
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So what is the o/u of us having a ' national emergency'
our president is such child
Also my money is on Deutsche Bank being the straw that will break the orangatang's back.
Edit...Allen Weisselberg testimony alone in SDNY may do him in. Do we think Weiss will spill the beans and show the docs?
But then again he could shoot some one on 5th Ave and 35 % of America would support him
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The only thing that will curb Trump is the ballot box....anyone expecting anything else is kidding themselves
It’s messed up that you negotiate a budget and then Trump just goes around it..
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The only thing that will curb Trump is the ballot box....anyone expecting anything else is kidding themselves
It’s messed up that you negotiate a budget and then Trump just goes around it..
This. The rest is just fantasy. And who knows how fair the ballot box is going to be.
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Holy crap. Did you guys know about all this?
https://patriotpost.us/alexander/61189-contemplating-a-coup-detat-to-take-down-trump
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Is this credible?
Not going to open right wing nuttery
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Is this credible?
Not going to open right wing nuttery
No, of course not, I was being facetious. But isn't it good to be aware of the garbage to understand where Trump voters are coming from?
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Uh...no
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Aware, yes. Mired in, fuck no.
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Putin to U.S.: I'm ready for another Cuban Missile-style crisis if you want one
No response from the White House...
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Putin to U.S.: I'm ready for another Cuban Missile-style crisis if you want one
No response from the White House...
Ignoring them is the correct response. Absent the INF treaty, we are no longer obligated to inform them. They can't outspend us, which is what it takes to win an arms race.
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Ignoring them is the correct response. Absent the INF treaty, we are no longer obligated to inform them. They can't outspend us, which is what it takes to win an arms race.
I have to agree on your analysis and response...mine was more a dig that Trump is the Manchurian candidate
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Goodwin enthusiastically replied, “there is, you can create a GoFundMe operation.”
“According to my mail,” Goodwin continued, “a lot of people are willing to chip in.” He described one reader that wrote to him, “and says if the 63 million people who voted for Donald Trump each contributed $80, that would get you near the $5 billion mark.”
Found the perfect last minute holiday gift for your MAGA relatives
https://www.gofundme.com/thetrumpwall
Raised by 81,668 people in 3 days
I'm kind of impressed, been getting a lot of coverage in the trump friendly media
I don't agree with them, but 80K people putting their money where their mouth is better than annoying facebook memes
Does Scott McCaughey get to keep the money if they don't actually build a wall?
so easy to miss news in the modern era...but this question has been answered
GoFundMe refunding entirety of $20 million "Build the Wall" campaign (https://www.axios.com/gofundme-refunding-entirety-of-20-million-build-the-wall-campaign-f32d0818-8468-4caf-abd3-44ff221b7fdc.html)
In realated news....Stephen K. Bannon joins We Build The Wall, Inc as Chairman
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Cohen says he has “no reason to believe” the pee tape exists.
I want to hear it from Putin
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Republicans just don’t care what Trump has done.
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wow the venn diagram just had to be updated between Rick Santorum and I
Donald Trump has sided with Kim Jong Un over the death of U.S. citizen Otto Warmbier, who was detained in North Korea for 17 months for stealing a propaganda poster and died days after being returned home to his family in a coma.
[Kim] tells me that he didn’t know about it, and I will take him at his word.”
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I am only posting in the THIS thread, because it was started by relaxer . . . and I am wondering if he is still, fucking hot? did you realize, that male model porn is making a HUGE comeback. And I do mean come, back.
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He looks hot in a got run over by a car while biking sorta way now....
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He looks hot in a got run over by a car while biking but still carrying a spit cup sorta way now....
FTFY
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I too would love to see Hannity to give testimony to congress!
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/432151-dem-rep-i-look-forward-to-hannitys-testimony
Hannity has got to be a little nervous that Cohen will spill the beans on some mis-deed he surely did for him
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He looks hot in a got run over by a car while biking but still carrying a spit cup sorta way now....
FTFY
he has a spit cup? oh well then . . . cheap lube.
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He looks hot in a got run over by a car while biking but still carrying a spit cup sorta way now....
FTFY
Yeah...I think Relaxer was joking....anyways my understanding is he got run over by a wealthy diplomat who will fund his early retirement
I got wrecked by a pauper of course
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I too would love to see Hannity to give testimony to congress!
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/432151-dem-rep-i-look-forward-to-hannitys-testimony
Hannity has got to be a little nervous that Cohen will spill the beans on some mis-deed he surely did for him
Hannity would love the attention
All these investigations must be done I suppose but they are a waste of time...i’d Rather they spend the time building a highway or so
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My bike accident was 13 months ago so I'm pretty much all recovered and settlement-wealthy and hot.
lol who am I kidding, I look like a thumb
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My bike accident was 13 months ago so I'm pretty much all recovered and settlement-wealthy and hot.
lol who am I kidding, I look like a thumb
If it makes you feel any better, from photos you've posted, you always kinda looked like a thumb, so . . .
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lol who am I kidding, I look like a thumb
Was looking through my phone of photos I took at Ust ....and this must be you
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DrlvoweX4AUAdkL.jpg)
looks like something you'd wear
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This is a prime example with what is wrong with the GOP today
Republican congressman #RodneyDavis, arguing in defense of Nickelback, yelled: "Why would you criticize one of the greatest bands of the ’90s?!" (https://consequenceofsound.net/2019/03/congressmen-debate-nickelback/?fbclid=IwAR30G1oQS9sJziEJHltt4J133khovx1MoAfS2Vugns6JkkFuF6yW_VIsdD4)
the dem did start off with a good dig
It all started when Congressman Pocan made a quip about the Canadian rock band while talking about a voting-rights provision, saying that only four out of 77,000 people who commented on the provision in a census survey wanted to keep it, adding, “that’s probably about the percent of people who think Nickelback is their favorite band in this country.”
and this is more evidence of the GOP answering to foreign powers too!
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https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/03/trump-cindy-yang-robert-kraft-republicans/?fbclid=IwAR1YsIm6S0elXlKx0h3heGee9ggVypgbAWLF_q_m9P1eS03_7OUt9bDNnpA
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https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/03/trump-cindy-yang-robert-kraft-republicans/?fbclid=IwAR1YsIm6S0elXlKx0h3heGee9ggVypgbAWLF_q_m9P1eS03_7OUt9bDNnpA (https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/03/trump-cindy-yang-robert-kraft-republicans/?fbclid=IwAR1YsIm6S0elXlKx0h3heGee9ggVypgbAWLF_q_m9P1eS03_7OUt9bDNnpA)
even more to the point: Trump watched Super Bowl with ex-owner of spa linked to Kraft arrest (https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/08/politics/li-yang-miami-herald-donald-trump-bob-kraft-superbowl/index.html)
(aside: you can delete all the junk at the end of that motherjones URL after the question mark. all that "?fbclid=..." crap is just a Facebook tracking tag. URL will work without it, it's cleaner, and FB gets less info...)
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GOP senators with a spine do exist, some of the usual suspects, but a few new ones
Roy Blunt of Missouri
Susan Collins of Maine
Mike Lee of Utah
Lisa Murkowski of Alaska
Rob Portman of Ohio
Mitt Romney of Utah
Marco Rubio of Florida
Patrick J. Toomey of Pennsylvania
Rand Paul of Kentucky
Roger Wicker of Mississippi
Mr. Alexander of TN
Mr. Moran of Kansas
Wonder if a few more will come out of the woodwork with his first ever Veto
(https://images.axios.com/XbNU_Znw-JUHJ-O7nyg_SedHCfE=/0x0:1125x633/1920x1080/2019/03/14/1552592537131.jpg)
Not holding my breath...
“a vote for Nancy Pelosi, Crime, and the Open Border Democrats!”
(https://i.imgur.com/HKH3bzm.jpg)
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How many are up for re-election in 2020?
Exactly
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this shit is really going too far, this guy is a dictator
The left plays a tougher game, it’s very funny. I actually think that the people on the right are tougher, but they don’t play it tougher. Okay? I can tell you I have the support of the police, the support of the military, the support of the Bikers for Trump – I have the tough people, but they don’t play it tough — until they go to a certain point, and then it would be very bad, very bad. But the left plays it cuter and tougher. Like with all the nonsense that they do in Congress … with all this invest[igations]—that’s all they want to do is –you know, they do things that are nasty. Republicans never played this.
Republicans never played this?! They fuckin invented it
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Trump is loving this veto...and everybody knows it
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How many are up for re-election in 2020?
Kinda knew the answer, but found it
Of the twelve Republican senators who defied Trump, just one—Susan Collins, of Maine—is up for reëlection next year.
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Republicans aren’t exactly a profile in courage, are they?!?
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Day After Trump Bullies A Dead John McCain on Twitter, Melania Hosts “Be Best” Meeting To Promote Social Media Kindness (http://dctribune.org/day-after-trump-bullies-a-dead-john-mccain-on-twitter-melania-hosts-be-best-meeting-to-promote-social-media-kindness/)
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we knew this was going to happen...
https://www.businessinsider.com/house-fails-override-trump-veto-national-emergency-declaration-border-wall-2019-3
Trump is having the best week of his presidency
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this really sounds like a onion headline
Hollywood's most outspoken Trump supporter, #JonVoight, is charged with handling the administration and maintenance of the Kennedy Center.
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this really sounds like a onion headline
Hollywood's most outspoken Trump supporter, #JonVoight, is charged with handling the administration and maintenance of the Kennedy Center.
The US Government owns the Kennedy Center. How is the news that Trump appoints Jon Voight as a trustee newsworthy? Jon Voight is a long time performance artist.
What I found weirder was he also appointed guitar slinger and creepy fundamentalist Christian Mike Huckabee.
Obama appointed a gaggle of Hollywood notables who supported him, so what is wrong with Trump appointing Voight?
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/obama-names-caas-bryan-lourd-735828
President Barack Obama announced on Thursday that he is naming Hollywood super agent Bryan Lourd, a longtime supporter, to the board of trustees for the John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts.
Lourd will join several other Hollywood notables already serving on the board. They include entertainment attorney Charles B. Ortner, HBO exec Michael Lombardo and Scandal creator Shonda Rhimes.
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mostly because Jon Voight is a not playing with a full deck and has said some pretty outrageous things (and is UBER-MAGA)
Only saving grace is that Jon has a history of being in and involved with the arts
so unlike other appointments...he at least has a little credibility in the field
so it is better than appointing ted nuget or kid rock (I'm sure he put those names out there to his inner circle) or some other hack who's spent his whole career taking funding from NEA or NPR
Yeah, I guess with the huckebee appointment we can look forward to more 'christian-friendly' performances, prayers said at commencement and the requirement that if a male dancer shows his package during a ballet performance, the director will be required to do 1 hail mary x the amount of times his pecker faces the crowd
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I don't think there will be any Hail Marys involved. Huckabee is the kind of Christian who thinks all Catholics are going to Hell.
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I don't think there will be any Hail Marys involved. Huckabee is the kind of Christian who thinks all Catholics are going to Hell.
let's be clear...any mention of religious activities, doctrines and verses....have only been learned from 3rd party pop culture references in movies, books and the music of Nick Cave
I think I've probably only completed one passage from the bible
I guess I've been to weddings and funerals that have involved religious things...but I definitely phoned that participation in
One religious moment that did move me: I was in Charleston after the church murders and was with a crowd of locals when Obama did Amazing Grace...and I can honestly say it I had a moment...not sure if it was religious, but it came out of a religious setting
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I went to a wedding at an Episcopal church like 2-3 years ago and it was very odd and in the middle everyone got up and started walking around and someone said "peace be unto you" and, hand to God, I stared at them blankly for a few seconds and then went "well, thank you" and then went to walk out the back. I was opening the door when the usher informed me the services were not over and everyone was going to sit back down in a minute. It was odd.
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although..in somewhat surprising news
U.S. Supreme Court refuses to block Trump's gun 'bump stock' ban
this Conservative court still leans a little left...sometimes
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New documents raise questions over State Dept. move to rescind honor for Trump critic (https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/28/politics/state-department-sfr-dems-iwoc/index.html)
i can't... i can't even...
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what's sad is they don't understand the role of journalists as the 4th estate
There is a big difference between what a journlist says, a private citizen says and an elected official says...
even sadder is they think satire should be prosecuted (SNL)
how did we become a banana republic
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after such a good week for Trump, was comforting to see these headlines of him retreating and looking weak
Trump Reverses Cuts to Great Lakes Cleanup
Trump reverses proposal to cut federal funding for Special Olympics
this one was a head scratcher....I thought he put Pence in charge of the Space Force
Trump and Moon to meet
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"You gotta be a little bit more paranoid than you are," Trump told Republican audience members. "We have to be a little bit careful, because I don't like the way the votes are being tallied. I don’t like it and you don’t like it either. You just don’t want to say it because you’re afraid of the press.”
methinks someone is setting the stage to contest the results of the election in 2020 if they don't like the results
this narrative really irks me more than most of the crazy shit he says
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Of course. Before the 2016 election, all he did was say that the system was rigged because he, like everybody else, assumed he was going to lose. Then he won and his blathering about the rigged system faded away. Now that's again staring a challenge in the face, the 2020 election, he's back on the 'rigged' language.
And of course shameless wiener republicans never call him out on it because all they care about is holding power and fucking over poor and foreign people.
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Then he won and his blathering about the rigged system faded away.
well didn't totally fade away...remeber this jem
The Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity (PEIC or PACEI), also called the Voter Fraud Commission, was a Presidential Commission established by Donald Trump that ran from May 11, 2017 to January 3, 2018.
November 28, 2016 Trump stated in a tweet, "In addition to winning the Electoral College in a landslide, I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally."Trump has repeatedly stated and implied that three to five million people voted illegally in the 2016 election.[
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I'm sorry i can't find the Onion thread, and i hope making fun of a black republican doesn't make me a racist.
Trump considers former pizza magnate Herman Cain for spot on the Federal Reserve
President Donald Trump is considering former Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain for the Federal Reserve board, the latest indication that the president hopes to significantly alter the central bank's direction.
Trump will consider Cain for the post if the former Godfather’s Pizza CEO clears a background check, according to an administration official speaking on the condition of anonymity. Cain, known to millions of Americans for the “9-9-9” tax plan he touted during his 2012 run for the GOP presidential nomination, has repeatedly been accused of sexual harassment.
Trump, a fierce critic of the central bank, named Reagan-era economist Stephen Moore to a spot on the seven-member Federal Reserve board last month. Taken together, the appointments underscore Trump’s desire to make significant chances to Fed policy. Cain's potential appointment was first reported Thursday by Axios.
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so is he going to take the Fed Funds Rate to 9%
anyone can't be worse than dick-wad and grossly unqualified pundit Stephen Moore
Cain gets a lot of heat because he was the CEO of Godfather Pizza and just sounds like a punch line
but he's acutally qualified for the job!
Cain was chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City Omaha Branch from 1989 to 1991 and other high level positions
althoug in this #metoo era...do we think those 5 accusations will come back out of the woodwork and jettison this ?
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so is he going to take the Fed Funds Rate to 9%
Good one! Chuckle chuckle
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Mysterious lender who gave Manafort $1 million concerned about political fallout (https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/04/politics/lender-manafort-1-million-political-fallout/index.html)
"He has been and remains extremely concerned that if his identity is revealed to he public, he will suffer grave damage to his business and personal relationships due to the unpopularity of President Trump and anyone closely associated with the President, such as Paul Manafort, in California, where he lives and does business," Thursday's court filing said."
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If your anonymity meant so much to you, you probably should just let the unpaid debt go. We'll call it "buying your anonymity."
But here's the more thoroughly researched back story to the CNN story:
Hollywood bit player had curious walk-on role in Manafort loan (https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Hollywood-bit-player-had-curious-walk-on-role-in-13519837.php)
"Through his movie work, Joey Rappa is linked to someone whose name has turned up in the course of the special counsel's investigation: Andrew Intrater, an American financier who is the cousin of Russian billionaire Viktor Vekselberg."
Maybe that's why he can't stay anonymous?
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yikes Trump designates Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps as a Foreign Terrorist Organization
trust me I'm no friend of Iran and they have been a real disruptive in the Middle east with all their back channel financing...but not sure this is the best approach
double yikes on Iran's response
Iranian parliamentarian Seyed Jawad Sadatinejad told Iran's state-run FARS News on Saturday, "If any stupidity is carried out by the Americans, the Islamic Republic of Iran will practice reciprocity and designate the US military, which has killed many innocent people, to the list of terrorist groups." He said Iran could then treat US troops in the region the same way they treated terror groups like ISIS and Al-Qaeda, reports FARS News.
unrelated...but herd this gem too : Mulvaney vows Dems will 'never' see Trump's tax returns,
Any thoughts on this...they have been very good at doing what ever they want, but have been getting slapped by the courts more than once...it's those members of congress with the R that are enabling this...grr...gotta turn the news off for sanity
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the COOCH is BACK! (wonder what rock they found him under?)
Ken Cuccinelli II, a former Virginia attorney general, is under consideration as Dept. of Homeland Security
Julie...I think you could probably make a good meme of him getting a transvaginal ultrasound
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Ben Carson for the 6 in a row!
but my money is on Wilbur Ross or Huckebee next
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yikes Trump designates Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps as a Foreign Terrorist Organization
now I get it.....“Thank you, my dear friend, President Donald Trump, for having decided to announce Iran’s Revolutionary Guard as a terrorist organization,” Netanyahu said in a tweet in Hebrew on Monday,
@realDonaldTrump
Spoke to Bibi @Netanyahu to congratulate him on a great and hard-fought win. The United States is with him and the People of Israel all the way!
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this is what I find one of the most unappealing part of how Team Trump operates. There is always a 'stick it to ya' kind of delivery on everything. The get off on being mean-spirited asshats...and the base LOVES it.
"White House officials have tried to pressure U.S. immigration authorities to release detainees onto the streets of “sanctuary cities” to retaliate against President Trump’s political adversaries, according to Department of Homeland Security officials and email messages reviewed by The Washington Post."
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In a functioning republic he would be impeached over this...pretty crazy but won’t create a ripple
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While Trump is busy consuming hamberders and dealing with his herpes sores, this guy is the true mastermind behind all the mean spiritedness.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0iRYcdTLLk
In a campaign speech in high school, he questioned the effectiveness of the school’s janitors by asking, “Am I the only one who is sick and tired of being told to pick up my trash when we have plenty of janitors who are paid to do it for us?”
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this is what I find one of the most unappealing part of how Team Trump operates. There is always a 'stick it to ya' kind of delivery on everything. The get off on being mean-spirited asshats...and the base LOVES it.
"White House officials have tried to pressure U.S. immigration authorities to release detainees onto the streets of “sanctuary cities” to retaliate against President Trump’s political adversaries, according to Department of Homeland Security officials and email messages reviewed by The Washington Post."
the man has only ever known NYC real estate. so he's running the country like a real estate tycoon. this is what ya get. "he cut me out of that land redevelopment deal? i'm going to cut off their water!"
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this is what I find one of the most unappealing part of how Team Trump operates. There is always a 'stick it to ya' kind of delivery on everything. The get off on being mean-spirited asshats...and the base LOVES it.
"White House officials have tried to pressure U.S. immigration authorities to release detainees onto the streets of “sanctuary cities” to retaliate against President Trump’s political adversaries, according to Department of Homeland Security officials and email messages reviewed by The Washington Post."
he's doubling down with being a dick!
@realDonaldTrump
....The Radical Left always seems to have an Open Borders, Open Arms policy – so this should make them very happy!
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Just saw that...unbelievable
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this is what I find one of the most unappealing part of how Team Trump operates. There is always a 'stick it to ya' kind of delivery on everything. The get off on being mean-spirited asshats...and the base LOVES it.
"White House officials have tried to pressure U.S. immigration authorities to release detainees onto the streets of “sanctuary cities” to retaliate against President Trump’s political adversaries, according to Department of Homeland Security officials and email messages reviewed by The Washington Post."
the man has only ever known NYC real estate. so he's running the country like a real estate tycoon. this is what ya get. "he cut me out of that land redevelopment deal? i'm going to cut off their water!"
trump is doing everything he can to make the crisis worse, with the idea that it'll force the Dems to negotiate. that's also why he's cutting aid to the northern triangle countries: make conditions worse = more asylum seekers = bigger crisis at the border = americans will support his policies.
hey want that he treats humans as pawns is reprehensible.
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Northern Triangle? You mean the three Mexican countries? :)
But seriously, I agree with you...the question is what can democrats do? I think Trump believes he can ride a growing economy, white resentment and the immigration issue to a second term...
Even out here in liberal NOVA I sometimes hear white people openly talking amongst themselves about immigration and they sound nuts...earlier this week I heard an elderly man regurgitate the Glenn Beck theory that the Russians are sending the Latinos through the southern border to destabilize the US!
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this is what I find one of the most unappealing part of how Team Trump operates. There is always a 'stick it to ya' kind of delivery on everything. The get off on being mean-spirited asshats...and the base LOVES it.
"White House officials have tried to pressure U.S. immigration authorities to release detainees onto the streets of “sanctuary cities” to retaliate against President Trump’s political adversaries, according to Department of Homeland Security officials and email messages reviewed by The Washington Post."
he's doubling down with being a dick!
@realDonaldTrump
....The Radical Left always seems to have an Open Borders, Open Arms policy – so this should make them very happy!
I think the response from these mayors is top notch!
You go low...we act like Human Beains
Democratic mayors have said their cities would welcome migrants immigrants if Trump's idea came to fruition.
What they're saying:
Philadelphia Mayor Jim Kenney: “The city would be prepared to welcome these immigrants just as we have embraced our immigrant communities for decades."
Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel: “As a welcoming city, we would welcome these migrants with open arms, just as we welcomed Syrian refugees, just as we welcomed Puerto Ricans displaced by Hurricane Maria and just as we welcome Rohingya refugees fleeing genocide in Myanmar."
Mayor Marc McGovern of Cambridge, Massachusetts: “I am proud that Cambridge is a sanctuary city. ... Trump is a schoolyard bully who tries to intimidate and threaten people. I’m not intimidated and if asylum seekers find their way to Cambridge, we’ll welcome them.”
San Francisco Mayor London Breed: “Like so many issues we are forced to talk about during this presidency, this isn’t a real idea or a real proposal, it’s just another scare tactic."
Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler: “Humans are not pawns. This is not a game. These are people’s lives ... Portland will continue to protect its sanctuary status in accordance with Oregon law and the U.S. Constitution. We strongly denounce the cruel efforts of this administration to retaliate against sanctuary cities.”
Mayor Daniel Drew of Middletown, Connecticut: “It’s a sign of the president’s tremendous weakness as an executive and weakness as a leader, and of the degree to which he pales in comparison to all of his recent predecessors."
New York Mayor Bill de Blasio: “He uses people like pawns ... New York City will always be the ultimate city of immigrants – the President’s empty threats won’t change that.”
Mayor Steven Hernandez of Coachella, California: “We have already been working alongside partners to ensure that recently arrived families, women and children get the services they need to make their successful transition into America."
^although to be fair Mayor Steven was talking about the festival goers
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Yeah I can see it now...”Democrats opening their arms to take in illegal immigrants”
That will work great...
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Yeah I can see it now...”Democrats opening their arms to take in illegal immigrants”
That will work great...
along with letting prisoners vote in Trans-bathrooms....
The Trump voters will be stoked to vote dem this time around
I think reparations would be the icing on the cake too
(Not 100% opposed to the idea (about 98%), but get in power and then try to implement that stuff...not in the run up to the election)
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this might be hard for Team Trump to block
House Democrats subpoena Deutsche Bank in Trump investigation
In addition to the Deutsche Bank subpoena, House Democrats subpoenaed other banks — including JPMorgan Chase, Bank of America and Citigroup — seeking information on Russian money launderin
I'm certain there have been some back-channel conversations between the top brass on both sides on how to say something like "this has never happened in the 100+ years of 'insert bank name here', but we somehow misplaced all the records related to the person you are subpoenaing'
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I'm certain there have been some back-channel conversations between the top brass on both sides on how to say something like "this has never happened in the 100+ years of 'insert bank name here', but we somehow misplaced all the records related to the person you are subpoenaing'
nah, i suspect the back-channel conversations included words like "immunity", "plea deals", and "cooperating witnesses".
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I'm certain there have been some back-channel conversations between the top brass on both sides on how to say something like "this has never happened in the 100+ years of 'insert bank name here', but we somehow misplaced all the records related to the person you are subpoenaing'
nah, i suspect the back-channel conversations included words like "immunity", "plea deals", and "cooperating witnesses".
he runs team trump like the mob, I have a feeling some of the conversions will be like 'It would be a shame if you lovely daughter to not get into San Diego State'
or 'I have the Bikers and Fox news on my side, beware what side you pick you pencil neck'ed banker'
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“So weird to watch Crazy Bernie on @FoxNews,” Trump tweeted. “Not surprisingly, @BretBaier and the ‘audience’ was so smiley and nice. Very strange, and now
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have @donnabrazile?”
Trump tweets his frustration with faux news...and uses pronoun WE!
should his audience been a mob and hurled insults at the Sand-man
I think I know what got his goat....watch this video of them asking a fox audience how many people would want medicare-for-all
https://twitter.com/i/status/1117924843746361345
they didn't even wait for him to finish the question
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I think we should all agree - left and right - that Donna Brazile is awful
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Gives his second veto to the murderer MBS
Guess you got to look after your fellow dictators
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I like to call our government a “sham democracy” because dictatorship seems a bit harsh but if the shoe fits
I am constantly astounded that the guy got almost 3 million less votes and won...the other day I was trying to explain this to my 6 year old and just couldn’t...is there any other non parliamentary self proclaimed democracy in the world where this happens?!? And sadly Trump acts like he destroyed Hillary and this seems to have taken root...We must change this electoral college business not because it will favor democrats but because it is just plain wrong and antithetical to any pretense of democratic norms
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Watch the whole thing...it's pretty great. Not a great response IMO to the border question, but otherwise, the audience was eating out of Bernie's hands. Even the hosts were kind of stunned. Plus, seeing Bret Baier ask Bernie to stop being mean to Fox news was a classic.
“So weird to watch Crazy Bernie on @FoxNews,” Trump tweeted. “Not surprisingly, @BretBaier and the ‘audience’ was so smiley and nice. Very strange, and now
we
have @donnabrazile?”
Trump tweets his frustration with faux news...and uses pronoun WE!
should his audience been a mob and hurled insults at the Sand-man
I think I know what got his goat....watch this video of them asking a fox audience how many people would want medicare-for-all
https://twitter.com/i/status/1117924843746361345
they didn't even wait for him to finish the question
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That’s cause it was stuffed with Bernie supporters...why Fox News?
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Mr President sir you are sundowning early than usual
That’s cause it was stuffed with Bernie supporters...why Fox News?
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Bethlehem you’re welcome!
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If only real life were so easy . . .
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Mr President sir you are sundowning early than usual
never heard that term before
Sundowning isn't a disease, but a group of symptoms that occur at a specific time of the day that may affect people with dementia, such as Alzheimer's disease. The exact cause of this behavior is unknown.
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For having Alzheimer’s I am doing pretty good....my re-election never looked so easy
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“The best thing ever to happen to Twitter is Donald Trump,"
I'm not a narcissist at all, what would make you think that?
wow, this tweet is crazy!
“I wonder if the New York Times will apologize to me a second time, as they did after the 2016 Election. But this one will have to be a far bigger & better apology. On this one they will have to get down on their knees & beg for forgiveness-they are truly the Enemy of the People!”
How would a newspaper get on it's knees? Where are the Knees located on a Newspaper?
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Where are the Knees located on a Newspaper?
fashion section.
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in today's edition of stupid shit our president actually believes:
Trump says he would challenge impeachment in Supreme Court
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/440358-trump-says-he-would-challenge-impeachment-in-supreme-court (https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/440358-trump-says-he-would-challenge-impeachment-in-supreme-court)
you know how there is a test to become a citizen, where you have to prove there is a minimal threshold of knowledge one must possess? why isn't there the same for the presidency? like, having read the constitution, once?
and these reports that mr. glass ego doesn't want anyone talking about the threat of russians hacking the 2020 election... wait. last time it worked out well for him. nevermind.
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Donny,
I'm confused...first your boyfriend #1 (putin) has a very public date with your boyfriend #2 (lil' kim)
and they finished their meeting with champagne!
Looks like they are leaving you out of the 3some!
also...WTF Donny, I though you and Kim were buds
North Korea presented US with $2 million bill for care of Otto Warmbier (https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/25/politics/otto-warmbier-north-korea-comatose-bill/index.html)
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so this was the opposite of what I expected from the GOP
Donald Trump Jr. Is Subpoenaed to Testify to Senate Panel on Russia Contacts
This is a senate panel a committee controlled by Republicans!
Do we think this is a trick to exonerate trump more?
odds are DTJ will say something he shouldn't in front of congress and make things problematic for team trump
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so this was the opposite of what I expected from the GOP
Donald Trump Jr. Is Subpoenaed to Testify to Senate Panel on Russia Contacts
This is a senate panel a committee controlled by Republicans!
Do we think this is a trick to exonerate trump more?
odds are DTJ will say something he shouldn't in front of congress and make things problematic for team trump
Oh, it'll work almost totally in favor of Reps. And then they can safely say that due diligence was done and, well, there's just nothing to see here.
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goodness the crap that comes out of this mans mouth to the ears of people who believe every word he says....
“Under that deal, everybody in this room gets fired,” he continued. “All of the thousands of guys and women standing in these buildings get fired, they go because under the Green New Deal, they don’t like clean, beautiful natural gas. They don’t like anything.”
Trump noted that progressive politicians “sort of like wind even though it kills all the birds.”
“You want to see a bird cemetery? Go under a windmill sometime,” the president ranted. “You will see the saddest, you got every type of bird. You know, in California you go to jail for five years if you kill a bald eagle. You go under a windmill, you see them all over the place. Not a good situation.”
the irony is they could care less about protecting wildlife, habitats and endangered species....
if we are REALLY concerned about bird death (and I assure you the GOP isn't)
look at this chart...we need to kill the cats!
(https://www.theatlas.com/i/atlas_r1FTmD7Yz@2x.png)
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I have a client that advocate for wind energy and they've had to cancel several meetings to do damage control when president grampa's brain starts melting and he yells about bird deaths.
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Found the perfect last minute holiday gift for your MAGA relatives
https://www.gofundme.com/thetrumpwall
Ha...this had a funny coda
The 'nearly broke' guy who started the Wall GoFundMe sponsor just paid for a ‘nearly’ $1 million yacht (https://thesternfacts.com/source-build-the-wall-gofundme-just-paid-for-a-nearly-1-million-yacht-not-a-wall-72958836bd0c?fbclid=IwAR3ptRiCVoqQ9g4OkZSb9qmCm_t88s8Nuk91kmeNIbJ-VpFA6jEZWGBa3YA)
A source close to the Florida man who raised over $22 million on GoFundMe in the “We The People Will Build the Wall” campaign just revealed today in their opinion money may be diverted to pay for a ‘million dollar’ yacht and high-flying lifestyle.
This article draws on the use of an anonymous source whose identity is being protected because they stepped forward to expose what they believe is a wrong-doing or possibly criminal fraud by the Wall GoFundMe campaign that received over 300,000 individual donations.***
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This has to be illegal, no?
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/22/usda-agr...trump-policies-1340168?cid=apn
The Agriculture Department is moving nearly all its researchers into the economic effects of climate change, trade policy and food stamps – subjects of controversial Trump administration initiatives – outside of Washington, part of what employees claim is a political crackdown on economists whose assessments have raised questions about the president’s policies.
On March 5, the department began notifying people who were allowed to stay in Washington, but didn’t provide a comprehensive list, only telling employees in person if they made the cut.
But current and former employees compiled one anyway, covering all 279 people on staff, 76 of whom are being allowed to stay in Washington.
The current and former employees, all of whom requested anonymity out of fear of retaliation, say the specialties of those who are being asked to move corresponds closely to the areas where economic assessments often clash with the president’s policies, including tax policies, climate change, and the farm economy. The list, shared exclusively with POLITICO, shows a clear emphasis was placed on keeping employees whose work covers relatively non-controversial issues like crop planting over those whose research focused on areas sensitive to the administration.
“This was a clear politicization of the agency many of us loved for its non-partisan research and analysis,” a current ERS employee told POLITICO, claiming that department leaders picked those whose work was more likely to offend the administration and forced them to move “out or quit.”
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Does it matter?
If the entire executive, Senate and Supreme Court is conservative they can make anything up
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This has to be illegal, no?
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/22/usda-agr...trump-policies-1340168?cid=apn
fixed link: https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/22/usda-agriculture-economists-trump-policies-1340168
i'm no lawyer, but seems like they have a strong case to make about political targeting/retribution.
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"I had nothing to do with Russia helping me to get elected"
Wait just one minute there....did he just admit that Russia helped get him elected
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"I had nothing to do with Russia helping me to get elected"
Wait just one minute there....did he just admit that Russia helped get him elected
the internet is blowing up about this, and it's still up (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1134066371510378501). crazy.
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there is hope....
Hicks agreed to supply the documents despite a White House directive advising her not to cooperate with the committee.
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KAG is the new MAGA
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he's starting to scare me...
overwhelming will mean obliteration
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this could possibly be an onion post...
Trump will host a Social Media Summit at White House...Facebook and Twitter not invited (https://thehill.com/policy/technology/451919-facebook-and-twitter-reportedly-not-invited-to-trumps-social-media-summit)
is it a summit when close to 80% of social media is Facebook(intsagram) and Twitter
I see the page to report 'social media bias' has been shut down
https://whitehouse.typeform.com/to/Jti9QH
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this could possibly be an onion post...
Trump will host a Social Media Summit at White House...Facebook and Twitter not invited (https://thehill.com/policy/technology/451919-facebook-and-twitter-reportedly-not-invited-to-trumps-social-media-summit)
is it a summit when close to 80% of social media is Facebook(intsagram) and Twitter
I see the page to report 'social media bias' has been shut down
https://whitehouse.typeform.com/to/Jti9QH
Maybe he's onto something. My kid tells me I need to quit Facebook (which I barely use) because Instagram is what everyone is using these days.
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this could possibly be an onion post...
Trump will host a Social Media Summit at White House...Facebook and Twitter not invited (https://thehill.com/policy/technology/451919-facebook-and-twitter-reportedly-not-invited-to-trumps-social-media-summit)
is it a summit when close to 80% of social media is Facebook(intsagram) and Twitter
I see the page to report 'social media bias' has been shut down
https://whitehouse.typeform.com/to/Jti9QH
Maybe he's onto something. My kid tells me I need to quit Facebook (which I barely use) because Instagram is what everyone is using these days.
That is definitely correct. People under thirty primarily use Instagram and SnapChat and MAYBE Twitter thrown in. If they have FB accounts, they’re linked to Insta and just republishing pics automatically.
And I say this as someone who only has a FB account.
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My kid tells me I need to quit Facebook (which I barely use) because Instagram is what everyone is using these days.
same company
People under thirty primarily use Instagram and SnapChat and MAYBE Twitter thrown in.
true...that's also probably why trump doesn't use Instagram
actually the kids are using Airdrop...try turning it on next time you take the metro or at a concert
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TikTok bitches.
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TikTok bitches.
That song is so old, Kesha still had a dollar sign in her name when she put it out.
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TikTok bitches.
ack...can't believe I forgot that
I find it endlessly annoying...but that's probably why the kids like it
try sitting next to someone for 20 mins using TikTok when they have the sound turned up
You will be slitting your wrists about minute 8
what I don't get with that platform is you don't really pick what 20 second vids you want to watch....they just are in your feed (I assume the algorithm takes into account which ones you like and which ones you skip)
Then there is the whole 'going live' thing
some how my kid (and her friends) managed to get 1000 followers so they could go live
my oldest 'went live' and just put her phone on a tri pod and drew for almost an hour
and some how they got like 10k likes!
some weird shit man, but far better than KPOP or these things (https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81Cyodq25pL._SX425_.jpg) for the youth of today
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A federal appeals court ruled Tuesday that President Trump is not allowed to block people on Twitter over statements he does not like, affirming a lower court’s decision that declared the president’s account a “public forum.”
In a Tuesday decision, the 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals noted that because Trump uses Twitter to communicate with the public about his administration, and his account is open to the public for people to comment on his posts, it warrants constitutional free speech protection under the First Amendment.
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Wow what a huge win
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Trump will host a Social Media Summit at White House...Facebook and Twitter not invited (https://thehill.com/policy/technology/451919-facebook-and-twitter-reportedly-not-invited-to-trumps-social-media-summit)
is it a summit when close to 80% of social media is Facebook(intsagram) and Twitter
update... Seth Rich conspiracy theorist (https://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-the-true-origins-of-the-seth-rich-conspiracy-a-yahoo-news-investigation-100000831.html) on the invite list for the Social Media Summit
gotta imagine Jacob Wohl and Alex Jones are invited too
Edit...here is some of the info on the invite list (source mediamatters (https://www.mediamatters.org/research/2019/07/09/Here-are-the-extremist-figures-going-to-the-White-House-social-media-summit/224147))
individuals and organizations that have said they were invited to the summit or have been confirmed to attend include
conservative radio host Bill Mitchell (Qanon promoter), a right-wing meme maker known online as Carpe Donktum,
Turning Point USA founder Charlie Kirk, right-wing propaganda YouTube channel Prager University,
pro-Trump cartoonist Ben Garrison,
Human Events publisher Will Chamberlain,
Media Research Center founder Brent Bozell,
conservative think tank the Heritage Foundation, Students for Trump co-founder Ryan Fournier, right-wing personality Ali Akbar (also known as Ali Alexander),
discredited “citizen journalist” James O’Keefe,
Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL), and Sen. Marsha Blackburn (R-TN).
Wow what a huge win
You forgot to use the sarcasm font (ask sweets...he's the fontologist)
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well at least Eugene Scalia actually has some experience in the Labor dept
didn't hurt that he was Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia son...
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The deepstate is turning on trump
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EAXHaakXUAAjlmN?format=jpg&name=small)
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well at least Eugene Scalia actually has some experience in the Labor dept
didn't hurt that he was Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia son...
If you call sticking it to the workers "experience", well sure.
He'll likely be more successful at dismantling Labor than Acosta was.
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well I meant that he actually had some government experience, not that he wasn't a dick
(celebrated by conservatives who see him as a warrior against regulations and a defender of business freedom.=corporate stooge)
He does always seem to be on the 'bad actor' side of these sexual harassment cases
RBG likes him...so he can't be all bad
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/07/25/eugene-scalia-labor-me-too-1617054
But Scalia had a formidable ally: Ruth Bader Ginsburg, the Supreme Court justice and close friend of fellow Justice Antonin Scalia, Eugene Scalia’s father. In a letter to the committee, Ginsburg said the younger Scalia’s essay was “written with refreshing clarity and style. It is informative, thought-provoking, and altogether a treat to read.”
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"I've always said American wine is better than French wine," the president, who has said he never drank a single drink, tweeted.
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rough day on the internet for #MoscowMitch...
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"I've always said American wine is better than French wine," the president, who has said he never drank a single drink, tweeted.
Yes, that was actually the worst part of that tweet.
Not at all the 3% tariff he is threatening on French wine in retaliation for the French tax on American tech companies, all the while protecting his sons interests in wine in Virginia...
I suppose if his threat were about beer, you would have seen the forest through the trees.
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"I've always said American wine is better than French wine," the president, who has said he never drank a single drink, tweeted.
Yes, that was actually the worst part of that tweet.
Not at all the 3% tariff he is threatening on French wine in retaliation for the French tax on American tech companies, all the while protecting his sons interests in wine in Virginia...
I suppose if his threat were about beer, you would have seen the forest through the trees.
I knew that was in retaliation...just seems so absurd that someone who doesn't drink has an opinion on wine
Man, didn't know he got that winery for a steal
Trump purchased the land from Bank of America for $3.6 million, a significant discount from the $16 million the bank had paid at the foreclosure auction to retain the property and to Kluge's original $100 million asking price the prior year
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Man, didn't know he got that winery for a steal
I enjoy when you starting peeking behind the veil....
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Man, didn't know he got that winery for a steal
I enjoy when you starting peeking behind the veil....
See The Veil is a brewery so now they’re hooked.
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this man really scares me
"I believe that Chairman Kim has a great and beautiful vision for his country, and only the United States, with me as President, can make that vision come true. He will do the right thing because he is far too smart not to, and he does not want to disappoint his friend, President Trump!"
so quaint...would not want to disappoint his friend and threw in the flattery that kim is 'far too smart'
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if only he said things that nice about this country...
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if only he said things that nice about this country...
"I believe that President Trump has a great and beautiful vision for his country, and only Russia, with me as President, can make that vision come true. He will do the right thing because he is far too smart not to, and he does not want to disappoint his friend, Vladimir Putin!"
goodness, now he's having a good time finding out Cumming house got robbed, this man is a monster
"Really bad news! The Baltimore house of Elijah Cummings was robbed. Too bad!"
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my stance on this guy is well know....
but I do think it's good he FINALLY said something like this
“In one voice, our nation must condemn bigotry, hatred and white supremacy,” Trump said
am I incorrect this is first public statement against white supremacy?
I wonder if he was doing one of these when he said it ....
(https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2017/12/white-power.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&strip=all)
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my stance on this guy is well know....
but I do think it's good he FINALLY said something like this
“In one voice, our nation must condemn bigotry, hatred and white supremacy,” Trump said
am I incorrect this is first public statement against white supremacy?
I wonder if he was doing one of these when he said it ....
(https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2017/12/white-power.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&strip=all)
While giving the White Power hand sign?
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I wonder if he was doing one of these when he said it ....
While giving the White Power hand sign?
Meaning a signal that he was only saying it to make it looks like he was aginst White power
but I did just make that up....fakenews
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I wonder if he was doing one of these when he said it ....
While giving the White Power hand sign?
Meaning a signal that he was only saying it to make it looks like he was aginst White power
but I did just make that up....fakenews
Missed your photo caption when I responded.
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So I just finished reading the Best Music Writing of 2000, a book i picked up at a library book sale. And they had this one story that was originally published in Vibe Magazine that has to be read the be believed. It appears Trump was once much loved in the hip hop community. Disgusting.
Here's a blog post about the story:
http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2016/08/donald-trump-and-hip-hop-deranged.html
and here's the story:
https://books.google.com/books?id=tygEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA104&lpg=PA104&dq=donald+trump+rappers+vibe&source=bl&ots=vzHhH8W9px&sig=tY7Eu0ytX0ws1S4XRzy5PWwXEJE&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiOgZH2q9vOAhWSMx4KHYq5APsQ6AEIVjAI#v=onepage&q=donald%20trump%20rappers%20vibe&f=false
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Ok, so this seems like a big deal that a current president is throwing out the accusation of a former president of murder...now I know retweeting is a gray area...but come on when you retweet it's saying that you condone that statement
Donald J. Trump Retweeted
Terrence K. Williams@w_terrence
Died of SUICIDE on 24/7 SUICIDE WATCH ? Yeah right! How does that happen
#JefferyEpstein had information on Bill Clinton & now he’s dead
I see #TrumpBodyCount trending but we know who did this!
RT if you’re not Surprised
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Typical Trump
Now we will spend five days discussing the latest insanity
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oh look, another leaker:
4chan user posted about Jeffrey Epstein's death before it was public (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/4chan-user-posted-about-jeffrey-epstein-s-death-it-was-n1041931)
Authorities now want to know who was behind the post, which contained medically accurate details about the financier and accused sex trafficker.
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"Fox is a lot different than it used to be, I can tell you that."
"I don't know what's happening with Fox,"
-DJT after they released bad poll numbers
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Greenland was in Trump's long game all along ...and Ted Cruz knew in 2016!
Cruz continued. “I mean, we’re liable to wake up one morning and Donald, if he were president, would have nuked Denmark. (https://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/ted-cruz-donald-trump-denmark-218694)
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yikes ....he's giving out orders now
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ECqvDJTXoAIGpKi?format=png&name=small)
Our great American companies are hereby ordered to immediately start looking for an alternative to China, including bringing..
....your companies HOME and making your products in the USA.
Also, I am ordering all carriers, including Fed Ex, Amazon, UPS and the Post Office, to SEARCH FOR & REFUSE,all deliveries of Fentanyl from China (or anywhere else!).
kinda odd that that Fentanyl was brought into the china thing?
Fentanyl kills 100,000 Americans a year.
where is he getting that number...I think it's less than half of that (still very freaking high)
68,500 Americans died of drug overdoses in 2018, compared to about 72,000 the year before source (https://time.com/5628293/drug-overdose-deaths-2018/)
that's all overdoses
I guess you could argue that a lot of people die from Fentanyl don't actually overdose?
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Again - deflection.
The shipper with the largest quantities of Fentanyl shipped?
The US Postal Service.
The shipper exempt from most laws requiring disclosure of international shippers information?
The US Postal Service.
The bureau tasked with working on the issue with the US Postal Service?
Customs and Border Patrol.
They've been a bit busy on useless chases and exercises that have not provided the arrest results they were promising his base.
That distracted them from keeping Fentanyl out of the country where it is ravaging areas that are predominately his base.
Will they put all of this together? Not a chance.
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(https://images.axios.com/YDrtwMSkJhdAePrUH8kWdSCyXCE=/0x0:1920x1080/1600x900/2019/08/25/1566769474865.jpg)
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caption suggestions....
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EC6JrTkXkAIKsK0?format=jpg&name=medium)
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There are a Trump lookalike on my train this morning. Same orange combover hair, same looking boring cheap suit with solid color tie, same smirking frown. Shorter and only slightly overweight though. It was frightening.
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so Mr Smax...do we think that Deutsche Bank will be the way the House get's Trump's Tax returns before nov 2020?
and if they do, is that confidential and wouldn't be revealed anyway?
Not that his tax returns is the silver bullet..but would give some black and white detail that has only been conjecture from the MSM
I think that document and the story it would tell would be hard to defend by the undecided voter (his base doesn't care)
holy shit...this these tweets
@realDonaldTrump
....I don’t want to Win for myself, I only want to Win for the people. The New @FoxNews
is letting millions of GREAT people down! We have to start looking for a new News Outlet. Fox isn’t working for us anymore!
So was he implying that fox news was 'working' for team trump?
I mean we all know the answer, but just seems like bizzaro world when he just comes out and says it
and right around the same time he landed this one
@realDonaldTrump
....And by the way, I’m the best thing that’s ever happened to Puerto Rico!
this man really makes my head spin...like PR it to blame here?
@realDonaldTrump
We are tracking closely tropical storm Dorian as it heads, as usual, to Puerto Rico.
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and in today's edition of "you thought he couldn't go any lower, but down we GO!!!", we have trump using a sharpie to alter a NOAA hurricane map to include alabama in the projected path.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2019/09/04/president-trump-shows-doctored-hurricane-chart-was-it-cover-up-alabama-twitter-flub/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2019/09/04/president-trump-shows-doctored-hurricane-chart-was-it-cover-up-alabama-twitter-flub/)
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/why-does-trump-s-hurricane-map-look-different-others-n1049711 (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/why-does-trump-s-hurricane-map-look-different-others-n1049711)
https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/04/politics/donald-trump-hurricane-alabama-map/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/04/politics/donald-trump-hurricane-alabama-map/index.html)
video: https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/09/04/trump-altered-dorian-map-alabama-vpx.cnn (https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/09/04/trump-altered-dorian-map-alabama-vpx.cnn)
how the fuck does this shyster keep getting me to believe there is a floor to his idiocy???
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Sorry, this hurricane map thing is the funniest fucking thing in the world. Why does SNL even try to lampoon this?!?! It's impossible to make anything more hilarious than real life.
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you know what would be absolutely hysterical is if this is what takes him out :)
altering an official forecast issued by an official government entity is actually illegal:
18 U.S. Code § 2074. False weather reports: Whoever knowingly issues or publishes any counterfeit weather forecast or warning of weather conditions falsely representing such forecast or warning to have been issued or published by the Weather Bureau, United States Signal Service, or other branch of the Government service , shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ninety days, or both.
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Internet explodes with hilarious #SharpieGate drawings mocking Trump’s fake Hurricane Dorian weather map (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/09/internet-explodes-with-hilarious-sharpiegate-drawings-mocking-trumps-fake-hurricane-dorian-weather-map/)
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My fave (https://twitter.com/RStevieMoore/status/1169606447384223744)
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#pussyassbitch
#mycountryisembarrassingatthispoint
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I was wondering what the deal was with trump and the lightbulbs (other that 'Obama did it')
Trump Blames Energy-Saving Light Bulbs for His Bright Orange Appearance (https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-blames-energy-saving-lightbulbs-for-his-bright-orange-appearance)
“The light bulb,” the president began. “People said what’s with the light bulb. I said here’s the story, and I looked at it. The bulb that we’re being forced to use. No. 1, to me, most importantly, the light’s no good. I always look orange
#1 is that it makes him look orange...that's #1
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The lightbulb thing has long been a talking point of the more loony-fringe of the GOP. Sarah Palin was huge about it too, IIRC.
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The lightbulb thing has long been a talking point of the more loony-fringe of the GOP. Sarah Palin was huge about it too, IIRC.
Oh I know, my father-n-law and his nut job brother when out and bought cases of the old style lightbulbs before they were banned
just to stick it to obama
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how the fuck does this shyster keep getting me to believe there is a floor to his idiocy???
there is no floor.
Trump responds to Cokie Roberts’ death by complaining that she ‘never treated me well’ (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/09/trump-responds-to-cokie-roberts-death-by-complaining-that-she-never-treated-me-well/)
Journalist Cokie Roberts died on Tuesday and President Donald Trump didn’t hesitate to make her passing all about himself.
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how the fuck does this shyster keep getting me to believe there is a floor to his idiocy???
there is no floor.
Trump responds to Cokie Roberts’ death by complaining that she ‘never treated me well’ (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/09/trump-responds-to-cokie-roberts-death-by-complaining-that-she-never-treated-me-well/)
Journalist Cokie Roberts died on Tuesday and President Donald Trump didn’t hesitate to make her passing all about himself.
Not to make light of this one, but I can think of a few that were worse.
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Yeah, this seems super tame. I don't really get what the fuss was over tbh.
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Yeah, this seems super tame. I don't really get what the fuss was over tbh.
it's tame and in the grand scheme of things insignificant
but also telling how our president always makes it about him at the same time glibly disrespects the recently dead. ALso the astonishment of how others look at trump like he is the second coming, when on a good day an egocentric piece of shit and one would hope the average American would mock his behavior instead of 'he sure showed it to that phony fake news woman, that dead reporter should have kissed his ring'
just add it to the pile of 10,000 things that make the hair on the back of my neck go up about Trump and his enablers
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Yeah, this seems super tame. I don't really get what the fuss was over tbh.
it's tame and in the grand scheme of things insignificant
but also telling how our president always makes it about him at the same time glibly disrespects the recently dead. ALso the astonishment of how others look at trump like he is the second coming, when on a good day an egocentric piece of shit and one would hope the average American would mock his behavior instead of 'he sure showed it to that phony fake news woman, that dead reporter should have kissed his ring'
just add it to the pile of 10,000 things that make the hair on the back of my neck go up about Trump and his enablers
Meh, doesn't bother me. Have plenty of real problems in my life to worry over. Don't let it bother you!
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Yeah, I mean, he already mocked a disabled reporter, mocked John McCain for being a POW (sort of LOL cuz fuck McCain, but still), the Access Hollywood tape, all of the fascism and racism, "good people on both sides", etc. TBH, this Cokie Roberts shit was probably him at his most compassionate lol.
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wow...Trump brings up global initiative to decriminalize homosexuality at U.N. (https://www.washingtonblade.com/2019/09/24/trump-brings-up-global-initiative-to-decriminalize-homosexuality-at-u-n/)
just talk I know...but he's buddy buddy with a lot of despots and has leverage to make an impact
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this is rich...the person who doesn't read....is recommending books
I assume they talk about them on fox and friends and that counts as reading to him?
@realDonaldTrump
Great new book by the brilliant Andrew McCarthy, BALL OF COLLUSION, THE PLOT TO RIG AN ELECTION AND DESTROY A PRESIDENCY. Get it, and some other great new books which I will soon be recommending. They tell you about the Crooked Pols and the Witch Hunt that has now been exposed!
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someone recorded a Private Trump breakfast (fundraiser) this morning
“I want to know who’s the person, who’s the person who gave the whistle-blower the information? Because that’s close to a spy,” he continued. “You know what we used to do in the old days when we were smart? Right? The spies and treason, we used to handle it a little differently than we do now.”
talk about mob boss
oh and he ended with this gem
“I don’t know if I’m the most innocent person in the world.”
we know...and you are not
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Pretty stunning turn of events
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Pretty stunning turn of events
seems damning to us, but will it make non-retiring GOP and independents change their mind on trump...
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Guys, I don't understand why you are not giving him a chance.
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he's pissed off at the coverage of his ranting tweets
To show you how dishonest the LameStream Media is, I used the word Liddle’, not Liddle, in discribing Corrupt Congressman Liddle’ Adam Schiff. Low ratings @CNN
purposely took the hyphen out and said I spelled the word little wrong. A small but never ending situation with CNN!
Ok...I suck at grammar...but isn't that an apostrophe and not a hyphen
then misspells describing while ranting about someone pointing out that he misspelled something...
lastly...isn't it Lil ...ya know like Lil Nas X
I don't think liddle was every a thing
well there is this Liddle syndrome is an inherited form of high blood pressure (https://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/condition/liddle-syndrome)
these are some strange times, when do we start using Gatorade on the crops?
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goodness...now Russia is worried that trump is going to release their private calls
Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said Friday that he "would like to hope" that President Trump won't publish accounts of his calls with Russian President Vladimir Putin
FTW
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/71308493_3304768782944135_857891735664066560_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&_nc_oc=AQkmKlzYtOCQht61ywrlglzLLhKn5TmMpbuawlBQztz8olL1BffWlhlGqSS4UwtmeTQ&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=3c9fe64014d4fa45d79284da802d7501&oe=5DF3FE31)
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goodness...now Russia is worried that trump is going to release their private calls
Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said Friday that he "would like to hope" that President Trump won't publish accounts of his calls with Russian President Vladimir Putin
i'm hoping they are released, or at least reviewed by some form of oversight: the whistleblower said that this wasn't the first time the top-secret NSC system was used to hide transcripts of calls with foreign leaders. there must be a treasure trove of corruption in there... hopefully Schiff finds his way in there.
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goodness...now Russia is worried that trump is going to release their private calls
Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said Friday that he "would like to hope" that President Trump won't publish accounts of his calls with Russian President Vladimir Putin
i'm hoping they are released, or at least reviewed by some form of oversight: the whistleblower said that this wasn't the first time the top-secret NSC system was used to hide transcripts of calls with foreign leaders. there must be a treasure trove of corruption in there... hopefully Schiff finds his way in there.
The irony of trump being taken down by a secret server is just the icing on this cake
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^ lol, totally hadn't thought of that.
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It's not a secret server. Nearly everyone in the administration and intelligence knows it exists. It's how they're using it that's being questioned - they're accused of hiding non-sensitive material in there so watchdogs and those without top clearance can't review it.
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^ok...I know that...but the public perception that he's hiding things on a server ....which was his biggest indictment of hil is somewhat hilarious
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It's not a secret server.
correct, it's top secret (SCI).
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correct, it's top secret (SCI).
Exactly. It's existence is known, it's access is limited.
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The plot thickens...
The White House didn't just hide the Trump-Ukraine phone call, CNN reported last night — it also locked down transcripts with Russian President Vladimir Putin and the Saudi royal family, including crown prince Mohammed bin Salman
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Least surprising news of the day.
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goodness...now Russia is worried that trump is going to release their private calls
Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said Friday that he "would like to hope" that President Trump won't publish accounts of his calls with Russian President Vladimir Putin
i'm hoping they are released, or at least reviewed by some form of oversight: the whistleblower said that this wasn't the first time the top-secret NSC system was used to hide transcripts of calls with foreign leaders. there must be a treasure trove of corruption in there... hopefully Schiff finds his way in there.
Putin and co seem a little concerned....
The Russian government said Monday that the White House must ask for consent to publish transcripts of phone calls between President Trump and Vladimir Putin because such releases are "not normal diplomatic practice,"
Ha...expecting Trump to concede to normal diplomatic practice
that's funny
Although in the end...exactly what Putin wants...chaos...and with these comments adding fuel to the dumpster fire this is
(https://i.giphy.com/media/QLyhWVTvAHbAbAdWcp/giphy.webp)
Trump is the chump that thinks Putin actually has his back
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so rolling thunder canceled it's 2020 POW ride in DC (after 32 years...it's all about the Benjamin's people)....you know the reason it exists to create awareness of POW/MIA soldiers and unity among vets (and a lot of drs/lawyers who get to ride their $75k Harley once a year)
but if Trump gets Impeached (do they really understand what that means)...they are riding in!
Rolling Thunder chief predicts biker descent on DC if Dems impeach Trump (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/white-house/rolling-thunder-chief-predicts-biker-descent-on-dc-if-dems-impeach-trump)
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I am the first one to blast trump for the shit he does...but on Monday he signed a $1.8 billion Autisim Cares bill
There is almost no news coverage...I mean trump tweeted about ti...but no one even picked that up
Pretty much the only news story I found was in northjersey.com (where I go to get all my breaking news)
https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/new-jersey/2019/09/30/autism-cares-act-signed-into-law/3825728002/
. The Autism CARES Act of 2019 authorizes more than $1.8 billion in funding over the next five years. This funding primarily supports autism research grants awarded by NIH which advance the scientific understanding of autism, expand efforts to develop treatments for medical conditions often associated with autism and address the needs of people affected by it.
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Ok but the response I hear is what about helping people with autism now...the bill seems misnamed...it’s really about funding research
Still should get coverage but
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I am the first one to blast trump for the shit he does...but on Monday he signed a $1.8 billion Autisim Cares bill
There is almost no news coverage...I mean trump tweeted about ti...but no one even picked that up
Pretty much the only news story I found was in northjersey.com (where I go to get all my breaking news)
https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/new-jersey/2019/09/30/autism-cares-act-signed-into-law/3825728002/
. The Autism CARES Act of 2019 authorizes more than $1.8 billion in funding over the next five years. This funding primarily supports autism research grants awarded by NIH which advance the scientific understanding of autism, expand efforts to develop treatments for medical conditions often associated with autism and address the needs of people affected by it.
The media misses 99% of the bad shit Trump does policy wise because they are too busy chasing his tweets. It's a strategy that he uses purposely, at the very least to stroke his ego. I'm not going to feel bad now because they miss one of the few good things he's done in order to chase his tweets.
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as if things couldn't get weirder...Tom Cruise is meeting with the Ukraine president
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/71660072_2343140962602933_4045467358670618624_o.jpg?_nc_cat=1&_nc_oc=AQlBEN3njJM6E2enAdluq9-MFs0P9kXrTfOCdpzmtw03YPlcFIGLMzIEvRJHqx2LXeo&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=a676b6f58934bcdab3d2f74b8cf8a855&oe=5DF6A563)
was this supposed to be a super secret spy mission for trump (yes crusie said it was for a movie...but that's what a spy would say)
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A fellow “actor”!
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too funny not to share
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Pay up Donny!
Donald Trump to pay $2 million to settle New York Attorney General civil lawsuit against Trump Foundation and his children (https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/07/politics/trump-settlement-trump-foundation-new-york/index.html?cid=web-alerts&nsid=38423659)
Umm in june 2018 he was all like "I won't settle this case"
(https://preview.redd.it/zjnz4zsf5bx31.gif?format=png8&s=61850dad9595446427b1e84dd04fdc6f40ea2800)
do we think this might end up as an article of impeachment
Filed in June 2018, the lawsuit alleged that the President and his three eldest children -- Don Jr., Ivanka and Eric -- violated federal and state campaign finance laws
I guess since he settled, he can just be like "I was tired of this case and what's $2 million to me, I was never guilty"
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John Oberlin @OMGno2trump
Just to be clear, Trump sent 101 tweets yesterday. If he spent 3 minutes reading, thinking and writing each one, it would take 303 minutes. Which means Trump spent over 5 hours using Twitter. I remember when presidents used to read national security briefings instead.
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I honestly cannot believe where we are sometimes. It hurts my brain. I'm so afraid he's going to get re-elected because truth does not matter anymore and people are just the worst.
Happy Holidays.
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yeah...still doesn't seem like a slam dunk at all and keep me awake at night
I just read about how bloomberg was shocked by some of the polling in the swing states last month and had a meeting where they decided on spending some obscene amount of cash on those states
next morning came back and decided it looked so dire that he was going to run
Good news is he (Bloomberg) is spending a lot of his money in the Supertuesday states (he's basically skipping IA, NH, SC & NV!) and supporting state dem orgs...and that's going to be good for any dem who gets the nom
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I heard that as well, and that's something...
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But I also watched like 15 mins of Guliani on one america news network this weekend and about had a breakdown.
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can you believe these guys...sent out from the trump campaign
(https://am11.akamaized.net/med/cnt/uploads/2019/12/TrumpThunberg-1200x712.jpg)
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Fuck Trump and his deplorables
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Fuck Trump and his deplorables
for realz
did you see this
Gov. Mike Huckabee @GovMikeHuckabee
I'll be on @seanhannity 2nite @FoxNews
at 9pm ET and will explain how @realDonaldTrump will be eligible for a 3rd term due to the illegal attempts by Comey, Dems, and media , et al attempting to oust him as @POTUS so that's why I was named to head up the 2024 re-election.
here's a great pic of the Gov
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ELnb1QMU0AA8TLH?format=jpg&name=medium)
with the Fraud Guarantee crew and what is obviously a bag of money
That we can't convice people that the GOP is the most corrupt organization in our lifetime is beyond me
there is just SOOO much evidence
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this is rich....
To be spending time on this political Hoax at this moment in our history, when I am so busy, is sad!
right after I see this head line
Trump spent 1 of every 5 days in 2019 at a golf club
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I need GGW search skills, but this is what I've always said
Trump is going to get us into a war to get re-elected
Iran fires missiles at Iraqi bases hosting U.S. troops
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Yup...all going by the book
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I thought you guys said he was going to get re-elected because of the "booming" economy.
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I meant all going by the book meaning we hit them they hit us
I am not sure this is to get him re-elected
If anything more to deflect away from impeachment
But it is required part of the job for Republican presidents to get the country into fictitious wars...
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I thought you guys said he was going to get re-elected because of the "booming" economy.
let's be clear...I never said that
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I said that! And I still believe it
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Just read this and bodes well for Hutch's argument
the number of Americans who say 2019 was one of the best years is the highest in three decades; for the first time since almost then a majority believe it was one of the best years or at least average.
Ugh and the intelligence of the avg American is very low apparently
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ENwuh7WXkAA1klX?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)
I want to know who the 15~ who put Iraq in the British isles!
actually I don't want to know them
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https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1214955938119127040
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Ever have the feeling you been cheated?
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We sure live in wacky times...Trump says any attack will be met with attack on 52 sites...they attack us with missiles and our response is to say all good
Must be first time in US history we will just shrug off missiles being lobbed at us
It’s just all so bush league and unreal
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I'm somewhat glad there was no response
it ended up being a win-win
no Casualties and Iran said it sent a dozen missiles at US bases
I love how he blamed Obama for all the problems with Iran
What always grinds my gears is how the right is always like
Obama GAVE iran billions to buy bombs to attack us
Um, in the 70s Iran paid $400 mil for fighter jets it never got
we held on to that for close to 40 years...so any business deal would say, you have to pay interest over that time
sadly that came out to 1.7 bill
also it was given in cash, because we have sanctions on Iran that don't allow bank transfers
It was their money and it was a good bargaining chip to bring them to the table and negotiate
while the negotiations may have not be perfect, it was a step in the right direction
unlike these current steps
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We sure live in wacky times...Trump says any attack will be met with attack on 52 sites...they attack us with missiles and our response is to say all good
Must be first time in US history we will just shrug off missiles being lobbed at us
It’s just all so bush league and unreal
it was all arranged. both sides realized there was a high chance of shit getting real, really fast. everyone agreed that they had to back away, but iran said they couldn't for domestic political reasons (the iranian-on-the-street wouldn't accept a complete stand-down, since iran was "owed" a revenge freebie). so they came up with a plan: "hey, iran, you shoot a few missiles at us but don't hit anything valuable. here's a list of a few buildings used to store cleaning supplies and spare parts. blow 'em up. you tell your story, "we got 'em good"; we'll tell our story "no damage it's all good", and we can all go to bed." the end.
for now.
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We sure live in wacky times...Trump says any attack will be met with attack on 52 sites...they attack us with missiles and our response is to say all good
Must be first time in US history we will just shrug off missiles being lobbed at us
It’s just all so bush league and unreal
it was all arranged. both sides realized there was a high chance of shit getting real, really fast. everyone agreed that they had to back away, but iran said they couldn't for domestic political reasons (the iranian-on-the-street wouldn't accept a complete stand-down, since iran was "owed" a revenge freebie). so they came up with a plan: "hey, iran, you shoot a few missiles at us but don't hit anything valuable. here's a list of a few buildings used to store cleaning supplies and spare parts. blow 'em up. you tell your story, "we got 'em good"; we'll tell our story "no damage it's all good", and we can all go to bed." the end.
for now.
I really wish our administration could act with such finesse...but I highly doubt it
some suggest this was Putin's solution to this issue and was implemented masterfully in coordination with Iran
I don't know if Iran has the tech to send a dozen or so missiles into a base and be that surgical to not cause any casualties...the odds are off the charts
but it happened and I for one am glad as it allow both to de-esclate and save face
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it was all arranged. both sides realized there was a high chance of shit getting real, really fast. everyone agreed that they had to back away, but iran said they couldn't for domestic political reasons (the iranian-on-the-street wouldn't accept a complete stand-down, since iran was "owed" a revenge freebie). so they came up with a plan: "hey, iran, you shoot a few missiles at us but don't hit anything valuable. here's a list of a few buildings used to store cleaning supplies and spare parts. blow 'em up. you tell your story, "we got 'em good"; we'll tell our story "no damage it's all good", and we can all go to bed." the end.
for now.
Somebody gets it. You just left out the "tell your state media whatever you want" part.
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some suggest this was Putin's solution to this issue and was implemented masterfully in coordination with Iran
I don't know if Iran has the tech to send a dozen or so missiles
For part one, that may explain the coincidence of the Ukrainian air liner.
Also, don't confuse missiles with what the Israeli's refer to as "rockets"....
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Also, here is the non-deepfake version of the Iraqi Parliament vote:
https://twitter.com/Jordanmullarke1/status/1214962030815391746
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Also, here is the non-deepfake version of the Iraqi Parliament vote:
https://twitter.com/Jordanmullarke1/status/1214962030815391746
that wins the internet today!
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Also, here is the non-deepfake version of the Iraqi Parliament vote:
https://twitter.com/Jordanmullarke1/status/1214962030815391746
that wins the internet today!
Early leader in the clubhouse for Winning the Internet for all of 2020 for me.
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it was all arranged. both sides realized there was a high chance of shit getting real, really fast. everyone agreed that they had to back away, but iran said they couldn't for domestic political reasons (the iranian-on-the-street wouldn't accept a complete stand-down, since iran was "owed" a revenge freebie). so they came up with a plan: "hey, iran, you shoot a few missiles at us but don't hit anything valuable. here's a list of a few buildings used to store cleaning supplies and spare parts. blow 'em up. you tell your story, "we got 'em good"; we'll tell our story "no damage it's all good", and we can all go to bed." the end.
for now.
Somebody gets it. You just left out the "tell your state media whatever you want" part.
written by a good friend
Joint Chiefs chairman: Iran intended to kill American troops in missile attacks https://politi.co/2QBJOGT
....and that advance intelligence enabled troops to take cover.
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You just left out the "tell your state media whatever you want" part.
that's exactly what i meant by:
you tell your story, "we got 'em good"; we'll tell our story "no damage it's all good"
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advance intelligence
That's a code for one country brokered the attack between the two adverse parties. My money would be on Iraq, but it was more likely one of the Gulf Emirates.
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that's exactly what i meant by:
you tell your story, "we got 'em good"; we'll tell our story "no damage it's all good"
Sorry, I didn't equate "we got 'em good" as the same as "80 dead, 200 injured" but I could see how some could. That's more in line with "whatever you want" to me.
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And what are we to make of the "earthquake" near one of Irans nuclear plants today? Are we supposed to believe that they built a nuclear plant on a fault line?
My guess is that it was either bombed, or they conducted an underground test...
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Trump is a bullshitter
That’s all there is to it really...it’s just that simple
Yet no matter how much he bullshits many Americans just can’t bring themselves to admit he is a bullshitter and the media largely can’t do it either so we are left to come up with all these scenarios to make sense of all the bullshit we can’t accept...
I am fed up...can you tell?
I have been feeling really really homesick for Buenos Aires...the Government sucks there but nobody pretends otherwise and everyone is in on the joke...
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Trump is a bullshitter
That’s all there is to it really...it’s just that simple
(https://pup-assets.imgix.net/onix/images/9780691122946.jpg)
More relevant than ever.
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Trump is a bullshitter
Speaking of bullshit
He's now taking credit for curing cancer!
@rdt
U.S. Cancer Death Rate Lowest In Recorded History! A lot of good news coming out of this Administration.
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Guessing this "maybe we should elect him" thing wasn't working out so well, was it?
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Hey guys, how is your 409K doing?
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Hey guys, how is your 409K doing?
8 better than my 401
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Guessing this "maybe we should elect him" thing wasn't working out so well, was it?
started as a joke thread....only to find out the jokes on us
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that may explain the coincidence of the Ukrainian air liner.
from the AP
Two US officials say it's “highly likely” Iranian anti-aircraft missile brought down Ukrainian passenger plane.
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Guessing this "maybe we should elect him" thing wasn't working out so well, was it?
started as a joke thread....only to find out the jokes on us
hey, we get what our electoral college pays for...i mean voted for...
it was a huge.... i mean euge mistake in the end
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that may explain the coincidence of the Ukrainian air liner.
from the AP
Two US officials say it's “highly likely” Iranian anti-aircraft missile brought down Ukrainian passenger plane.
The irony being that there were 82 Iranians on the flight. Does anybody know why there where 63 Canadians on the flight?
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that may explain the coincidence of the Ukrainian air liner.
from the AP
Two US officials say it's “highly likely” Iranian anti-aircraft missile brought down Ukrainian passenger plane.
The irony being that there were 82 Iranians on the flight. Does anybody know why there where 63 Canadians on the flight?
because the Canadians are shifty bastards and we're putting the wall on the wrong border!!!
but kidding aside...there are a lot of Muslims in Canada
there are 1 million Muslims in Canada, or about 3.2% of the population, making Islam the second largest religion in the country
that was more to do with ... their are a fair number of Canadians with Middle Easter decent
...I have no idea why Iran would shoot down a plan with no Americans and 82 Iranians
they've kinda shown they have the aim of an Imperial Stormtrooper
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Does anybody know why there where 63 Canadians on the flight?
I haven't found a good answer to that, and I'd like to know. Based on just a few obits/in memoriam that I've seen on FB, a number of the Canadians we're young, around college age. Year abroad group?
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Does anybody know why there where 63 Canadians on the flight?
I haven't found a good answer to that, and I'd like to know. Based on just a few obits/in memoriam that I've seen on FB, a number of the Canadians we're young, around college age. Year abroad group?
allegedly Trump said the plane shot down in Iran was flying in a "rough neighborhood."
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Does anybody know why there where 63 Canadians on the flight?
I haven't found a good answer to that, and I'd like to know. Based on just a few obits/in memoriam that I've seen on FB, a number of the Canadians we're young, around college age. Year abroad group?
Someone on another forum says they were study abroad students from University of Alberta at Edmonton. This says at least 30 victims from Edmonton.
https://edmontonjournal.com/opinion/editorials/editorial-edmonton-mourns-with-iranian-community
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Joint Chiefs chairman: Iran intended to kill American troops in missile attacks https://politi.co/2QBJOGT
....and that advance intelligence enabled troops to take cover.
well this is turning into a he said/she said now
“We did not intend to kill. We intended to hit the enemy’s military machinery,” said Brig. Gen. Amir Ali Hajizadeh, the head of the Revolutionary Guard’s Aerospace Force, according to The Washington Post, citing Iranian state media.
Someone on another forum says
You are on other forums! I'm insulted this isn't your only source for news!
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allegedly Trump said the plane shot down in Iran was flying in a "rough neighborhood."
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1215316976509300736
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Two US officials say it's “highly likely” Iranian anti-aircraft missile brought down Ukrainian passenger plane.[/i]
Video. (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/09/video/iran-plane-missile.html)
(at time of posting not yet confirmed)
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that may explain the coincidence of the Ukrainian air liner.
from the AP
Two US officials say it's “highly likely” Iranian anti-aircraft missile brought down Ukrainian passenger plane.
The @nytimes obtains video showing a missile hitting the airplane headed from Iran to Ukraine.
I see smakie beat me to the scoop
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Those poor people
Gut wrenching
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Trump is a bullshitter
Speaking of bullshit
He's now taking credit for curing cancer!
@rdt
U.S. Cancer Death Rate Lowest In Recorded History! A lot of good news coming out of this Administration.
When I first read this I thought the Hill was trying to pull an Onion with this headline
@thehill
American Cancer Society shuts down Trump after he takes credit for drop in cancer deaths http://hill.cm/bIrvAMq
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ok people...this is on the books
Senate impeachment trial to start next Tuesday
I just don't get how people find a statement like this to have logic
Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) on Monday night said he will force a vote on subpoenaing Hunter Biden if Democrats insist on hearing from senior administration officials such as Bolton and Mulvaney.
So if you (the dems) want the guys who were on the call, knew about the call and the deal to testify and we (team trump) know they will exonerate the president (you know, because he's 'innocent'), THEN we get to call hunter so we can get some good embarassing soundbites and we'll also call scott baio. Also is Krusty the clown available, can we get him too
Let's just say the did have ACTUAL dirt and crimes that Hunter did....how would that exonerate the crimes team trump did.
Hey man, the alarm was going off at Radio Shack because someone else was stealing something...so it's totally ok for me to steal now
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I would live to see Krusty.....he definitely has some explaining to do
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I would live to see Krusty.....he definitely has some explaining to do
He knew what was in the burgers that bore his name. He knew. #KrustyKnew
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I would live to see Krusty.....he definitely has some explaining to do
He knew what was in the burgers that bore his name. He knew. #KrustyKnew
Documentary filmmaker Decland Desmond has made several exposes on this and the truth must come to light!
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@DearDean22
Remember when Obama was in office & there would be days of no news of him? Just quiet machinery of government working? Then he & Michelle would be at a ceremony w/ kids, or teachers, or some regular folk? They’d be smiling & laughing like humans. We’d then go about our lives?
Every president I have been alive for was like that, you might go a month before they were in the news
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^ again, i'd like to point out the number of ?mod=space and &from=space in the above spam... Space, you're not fooling anyone. you're not russian, you're not selling any boner pills. cut it out already. find a new way to entertain yourself during these times of pandemic. grow up.
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Less than 1,000 hours of this nightmare left
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less than 3 weeks...I think I can make it
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wow...I didn't think it would be much to make it the last three weeks...boy was I wrong
Exactly 1 week left!
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One more day people, one more day.
Hopefully, it will be a truly mundane Tuesday in January
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Bye Bye 45**, who managed to screw over this country for four years all for one signature legislation. A multi trillion dollar tax cut for billionaires. which further screwed over this country.. now start paying back the millions you owe us for playing fucking golf...
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So the Twitter was saying last night he who only cares about his “ratings” is apparently wanting to start a new party called the “Patriot Party”. My guess is wackjob 1 and wackjob 2 from CO and GA would join and would lead to interesting races in those districts. But what would truly #BeBest is some Patriot party candidate run against someone like Gym Jordan and split that vote...
Yes yes all fantasy but a boy can dream
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I'm 100% support in the creation of the Patriot Party
...will siphon off tons of 'GOP' voters or turn them off to elections in general
Trump will screw over all the GOP electorate to raise money to primary them all...because he'll get tons of press for it (even if they don't win, he doesn't care)
and I'll love watching them grift the followers of their hard-earned cash
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We all would but there are other alternatives and no sure thing
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This was particularly scuzzy
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/trump-revokes-rule-preventing-white-house-staff-from-lobbying
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This was particularly scuzzy
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/trump-revokes-rule-preventing-white-house-staff-from-lobbying
Clinton did this too, IIRC. No that uncommon.
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Well let’s get real
If you look up Clinton scuzzy comes up
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Well let’s get real
If you look up Clinton scuzzy comes up
Clinton was the best administration since FDR.
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I.........don’t know about that.
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Well let’s get real
If you look up Clinton scuzzy comes up
Clinton was the best administration since FDR.
Ok, make your case...
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Well let’s get real
If you look up Clinton scuzzy comes up
Clinton was the best administration since FDR.
Ok but the issue with Clinton is the attitude that his peccadilloes were ok cause he was doing a good job sort of permeated society and it’s hard to measure the lasting impact of something like that happening
Like ok so he gets blow jobs from an intern but the economy grew...that sort of rationalization is a slippery slope and once people see it’s ok for the president then what?
I just think the president being classy and decent is important.. it’s not all important but it counts for a lot in my book
Honestly without being an expert on Ike I think all in all I would take his administration over Bill... but then again I just never liked Bill Clinton.. I saw through him the first time I heard him speak...
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Crazy pic of Trump from earlier this week... Dude looks awful.
(https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AANZFHn.img)
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^ who the hell is that?
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^ who the hell is that?
The owner of the Las Vegas Raiders.
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^ who the hell is that?
The owner of the Las Vegas Raiders.
John Madden?
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^ who the hell is that?
The owner of the Las Vegas Raiders.
John Madden?
Yes, University of Michigan hockey legend John Madden. Exactly.
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hmmm.....
Washington D.C.’s Attorney General files a huge lawsuit against Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg for being “personally involved” in allowing Trump & Cambridge Analytica to illegally mine private user data to steal the 2016 presidential election
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Yawn…will come to nothing like all these lawsuits
And Trump did not steal the 2016 election
Democrats need to get a grip and start doing stuff instead of talking about Trump
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seriously - if "the 2020 election was stolen!!!111" isn't seen as a winning message, how will demanding "justice" for 2016 fare any better??
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(https://static01.nyt.com/images/2022/07/20/fashion/20IVANA-FUNERAL1/merlin_210358971_77cf7512-85a6-43df-8a98-a1481ba77376-superJumbo.jpg)
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Is Barron Trump the young Greg Hirsch?
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Is Barron Trump the young Greg Hirsch?
they are both 6'7"
so there is that
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This thread brings back bad memories
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They all look absolutely miserable.
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Kevin and Katie?
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Did I read this correctly?
The Justice Department is investigating Donald Trump’s actions as part of its criminal probe of efforts to overturn the 2020 election results
Is that just bs or is this a BFD
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Did I read this correctly?
The Justice Department is investigating Donald Trump’s actions as part of its criminal probe of efforts to overturn the 2020 election results
Is that just bs or is this a BFD
it's a BFD, as it confirms that the DOJ is actually investigating. investigations can lead to indictments. Garland has recently reminded us that no one is above the law... no one. this reporting also confirms a grand jury has been convened (https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/26/politics/justice-department-pence-short-jacob-trump-grand-jury/index.html), and at least 2 high-level witnesses have testified before it.
however, people are understandably cautious when it comes to Garland & Co. the common opinion among the left, as far as i can tell, it that Garland ain't doin' sh!t so they'll believe it when they see it. this is the first glimpse... TBD. personally i think he's playing it right, keeping everything as hush-hush for as long as possible (AKA when indictments are announced).
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Well yeah. Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice. You’re not going to fool me twice. Oh you are? Fool me three times shame on me. Fool me four times. Shame on me. Fool me five times . . .ok, ok, i get it
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top and center on cnn.com:
• Former Trump White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson cooperating with DOJ probe (https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/27/politics/cassidy-hutchinson-cooperating-doj-probe-2020-election/index.html)
• Prosecutors obtain search warrant for John Eastman's cell phone in Jan. 6 criminal probe (https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/27/politics/john-eastman-search-warrant/index.html)
• DOJ moves signal probe has escalated to include Trump (http://www.cnn.com/2022/07/26/politics/justice-department-pence-short-jacob-trump-grand-jury/index.html)
seems like it's picking up steam...
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I think liberals are in fantasy land
https://twitter.com/donwinslow/status/1552457835560464385?s=20&t=libAHiGuXJrDhYJALhL3hA
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the Post said that DOJ is investigating "President Donald Trump's actions" but did not say whether Trump himself was under investigation.
Good thread
https://twitter.com/renato_mariotti/status/1552472900367695872?s=21&t=Cn236azi83bIXOZmPrKQ5g
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(https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/296291843_10224919407270445_7384621956313880524_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=qclvgSgOSSQAX9mwVLs&_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.xx&oh=00_AT9HX4bH5XOCQ2fU7AkTE-BJ1d1VGYudnV2AnhD7v9I1rg&oe=62E7E49B)
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LOL
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1576376498851876864?s=21&t=StHKeyXUxAEBmnVI0ygsvg
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yikes, is this from the script of escape from New York??
"beat up the help and Kell people, they will kill people and they kill them at will, if necessary and even if not necessary"
with that creepy organ music in the background and I assume the crowd doing the one finger salute to QANON
oh yeah, sucks having to wait at airports and flights getting canceled...totally the same level of anger I feel when people are randomly killed in stores and when I have a bad time at the airport
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LOL
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1576376498851876864?s=21&t=StHKeyXUxAEBmnVI0ygsvg (https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1576376498851876864?s=21&t=StHKeyXUxAEBmnVI0ygsvg)
amazing.
a few videos up (https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1576372601521332225), trump squawks "... and no teacher should be allowed to teach transgender to our children..." - an example of a weird pattern of speech wherein he uses an adjective as a noun. he did the same thing with nuclear - "you gotta respect the nuclear, even if the other side has nuclear as well... it's all about the nuclear."