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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: hutch on December 17, 2017, 01:56:32 pm
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1. How many haircuts did you get in 2017?
2. Name your favorite Tom Waits release/album (compilations ok)
3. Most satisfying sexual position
4. Do you have a car?
5. The concert you are most glad you where at
6. Do you prefer the term "latino" or "hispanic"
7.musical instrument you wish you could play
8. Did you buy a Christmas tree this year?
9. Average time of work commute
10. Do you believe in God?
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I'll play. Though i bet ggw already knows half my answers.
1. 0, thanks to the American voters.
2. Rain Dogs, though my wife would tear a fit if i played it in the house.
3. Eating at the Y.
4. Two cars for two adults.
5. Ever or this year? For me, Wilco with Old 97's at 9:30 Club, 1999.
6. I like Spain but I'm going to say Latino.
7. Saxophone, so i could inspire my daughter to practice more and help her. Plus, Coltrane rules.
8. The fake one we bought 10+ years ago is turning out to be a great $50 purchase.
9. 60 minutes each way (40 by train, so lots of reading and Tom Waits listening time)
10. We've been here a long time and nobody has yet proven his/her existence.
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1. Five
2. Closing Time
3. Variety is the spice of life
4. Three
5. Fleetwood Mac (assuming you mean this year). I would never have gone to see them on my own. My wife wanted to go and it was surprisingly awesome. Really awesome.
6. Chicano
7. Guitar
8. Yes
9. Zero. Parted ways with my employer of 22 years over the summer. Working a few side hustles in hopes that I never have to have an employer ever again.
10. Yes, but that involves a great deal of discussion about what "God" really means.
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1) 8
2) Bone Machine. There are better but that was my 1st. And I Don't Want to Grow Up.
3) The last one. Until the next one.
4) You betcha.
5) The last one. Until the next one.
6) No se.
7) Guitar. I can play already. Wish I had time to play more.
8. Artificial all the way.
9) 37 minutes.
10) I like the idea. But I'm gonna need some proof.
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1. How many haircuts did you get in 2017?
2. Name your favorite Tom Waits release/album (compilations ok)
3. Most satisfying sexual position
4. Do you have a car?
5. The concert you are most glad you where at
6. Do you prefer the term "latino" or "hispanic"
7.musical instrument you wish you could play
8. Did you buy a Christmas tree this year?
9. Average time of work commute
10. Do you believe in God?
1. 7? 8? Will I get one more?
2. Nighthawks At The Raindogs
3. Her on top
4. Yes
5. Perhaps Hüsker Dü's last 930 stand.
6. Groups of people may self-identify. How ever they want to be identified as, I'm good with it.
7. Probably piano.
8. Nope
9. 15 minutes
10. Agnostic all the way.
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1. Two
2. Never listened to him
3. The one where I'm actually satisfied
4. I have a smart trip card, a car to go membership and an enterprise rental across the street
5. This year? Any of the New Orleans brass band shows at the Hamilton that remind me how culturally important New Orleans is to the US and the world
6. Seeing how I am neither, I think those that identify as such should select their preferred term
7. I could play recorder and saxophone for years so instead I'll go with actually being able to sing
8. I buy a real christmas tree every year. It's nothing but festive festive festive here at Lily's joint
9. 75 minutes on a good day
10. Maybe?
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My computer crashed; picking up new, one today. Can't wait to comment on this later.
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This is hard to do without being able to see the questions.
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1. I'm bald, and I shave what little hair I have. No proper haircuts.
2. I don't listen to Tom Waits. I'm too busy delving into the Gun Club discography
3. Why pick one when you can have many?
4. Nope
5. In 2017? Luna at Union Transfer.
6. One can be a noun, the other can be an adjective. I guess both can be adjectives. I don't care either way.
7. Guitar
8. Nope
9. 20 minutes each way
10. I believe in energy, universal karma, and the fact that we aren't intelligent enough to see beyond what's in front of us. That being said, I'm open to the idea of whatever "God" is but unsure of what I believe. Hasn't NASA mapped like 11 other dimensions? That's a solid argument to me that we aren't unique, special or singular. Good question though.
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1. How many haircuts did you get in 2017?
10~
2. Name your favorite Tom Waits release/album (compilations ok)
Missing You
3. Most satisfying sexual position
ones where I can breathe
4. Do you have a car?
yes...barely hanging on tho
5. The concert you are most glad you where at
A Giant Dog (2107) - ever...Jeff Buckley @ 930
6. Do you prefer the term "latino" or "hispanic"
are we referring to food, music or people?
7.musical instrument you wish you could play
guitar
8. Did you buy a Christmas tree this year?
yes and no menorah
9. Average time of work commute
40~
10. Do you believe in God?
nope, but I have an eternal membership to the Church of the Subgenius
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Ahh! Someone finally posted the questions too!
1. How many haircuts did you get in 2017?
12, with a thirteenth coming tomorrow.
2. Name your favorite Tom Waits release/album (compilations ok)
None of them.
3. Most satisfying sexual position
Cowgirl
4. Do you have a car?
Yes, just bought a new Toyota Prius Four Touring. Gas mileage is phenomenal.
5. The concert you are most glad you where at
VirginFest the year with the Police and Smashing Pumpkins. Just an amazing two days. Every band I saw was great.
6. Do you prefer the term "latino" or "hispanic"
Depends if I'm talking about people or things.
7.musical instrument you wish you could play
Piano
8. Did you buy a Christmas tree this year?
No, I do not celebrate Christmas.
9. Average time of work commute
18 minutes-ish
10. Do you believe in God?
If there's a God, it's not the construct taught in any religion, it's a more abstract multi-dimensional "being" the likes of which religion has not conceived of yet. That entity probably is dispassionate if it is aware of humans at all.
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1. How many haircuts did you get in 2017?
Three. . . Maybe four, damn some people get a lot of haircut or myself not enough.
2. Name your favorite Tom Waits release/album (compilations ok)
Partial to Mule Variations, my first.
3. Most satisfying sexual position
Whatever I'm allowed.
4. Do you have a car?
1995 Toyota corolla DX wagon. I feel like it's my sad aging nerd-rock mobile.
5. The concert you are most glad you where at
Yo La Tengo w/Sun Ra Arkestra @ 9:30. Probably my first concert since moving here. It showed me that rock could be quaint and weird.
6. Do you prefer the term "latino" or "hispanic"
I'm just pretty anti-Latinx but who am I to tell anyone what to call themselves.
7. Musical instrument you wish you could play
Guitar, better.
8. Did you buy a Christmas tree this year?
Yes, peer pressure. That peer being my wife.
9. Average time of work commute
40mins abouts.
10. Do you believe in God?
I want to, if only to attribute Roy Moore's loss to divine irony. Also, for someone who thinks that this is all there is I do way too much
nothing worthwhile.
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1. How many haircuts did you get in 2017?
I cut my own so it's a constant thing.
2. Name your favorite Tom Waits release/album (compilations ok)
Heart Attack & Vine
3. Most satisfying sexual position
My wife and I separated earlier this year and I've recently started playing the field. So currently all of them. I'm experiencing a personal renaissance of sorts.
4. Do you have a car?
One car, one motorcycle.
5. The concert you are most glad you where at
Arthur Lee and Love at the Birchmere
6. Do you prefer the term "latino" or "hispanic"
Latino
7.musical instrument you wish you could play
Guitar
8. Did you buy a Christmas tree this year?
Fake is the gift that keeps on giving.
9. Average time of work commute
10 minutes
10. Do you believe in God?
I'm pretty sure i'm not the most powerful thing in the universe.
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1. How many haircuts did you get in 2017?
Probably 15 or 16
2. Name your favorite Tom Waits release/album (compilations ok)
Rain Dogs I guess
3. Most satisfying sexual position
I guess I gotta go w DS (slight edge over CG)
4. Do you have a car?
Yep.
5. The concert you are most glad you where at
This year, GBV @Otto
6. Do you prefer the term "latino" or "hispanic"
I'm not sure I have a vote
7.musical instrument you wish you could play
Piano or guitar (or any)
8. Did you buy a Christmas tree this year?
Yes
9. Average time of work commute
30 min
10. Do you believe in God?
Yep
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1. How many haircuts did you get in 2017?
Really not sure. 3 or 4?
2. Name your favorite Tom Waits release/album (compilations ok)
Rain Dogs and Mule Variations.
3. Most satisfying sexual position
Not telling you that.
4. Do you have a car?
Yes.
5. The concert you are most glad you where at
This year? Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers. Ever? David Bowie (twice)
6. Do you prefer the term "latino" or "hispanic"
Latino
7.musical instrument you wish you could play
Bass/drums (But I can play the piano)
8. Did you buy a Christmas tree this year?
Yes. Two of them. Actually technically I bought 4. The real one was too dry, so I got a white tree with little blue trees to go with it, and a pink tree for my office (yes, too much info, but you asked).
9. Average time of work commute
30-45 mins.
10. Do you believe in God?
Some sort of something.
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1. How many haircuts did you get in 2017?
2. Name your favorite Tom Waits release/album (compilations ok)
3. Most satisfying sexual position
4. Do you have a car?
5. The concert you are most glad you where at
6. Do you prefer the term "latino" or "hispanic"
7.musical instrument you wish you could play
8. Did you buy a Christmas tree this year?
9. Average time of work commute
10. Do you believe in God?
1. maybe 4?
2. n/a
3. they're all great
4. yes
5. Prophets Of Rage!
6. I personally prefer Latino, but I use both. Spanish speakers = Hispanic, people from Latin America = Latinos... it's weird-ish...
7. Drums
8. Nope, we have a fake one we store.
9. 35 minutes
10. eh
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1. How many haircuts did you get in 2017? Every 6th Saturday, so 8 or 9 depending on the year.
2. Name your favorite Tom Waits release/album (compilations ok): N/A, but if I had to pick one....Closing Time I suppose.
3. Most satisfying sexual position: Willing.
4. Do you have a car? More than one.
5. The concert you are most glad you where at: This year, U2 in Chicago with Sweetcell, Venerable and the Director. Ever? I'd have to think long and hard about that.
6. Do you prefer the term "latino" or "hispanic": I'm neither so it's not up to me.
7.musical instrument you wish you could play: Drums.
8. Did you buy a Christmas tree this year? Yes.
9. Average time of work commute: 45 minutes there, 1 hour, 20 munites back. Bridges....
10. Do you believe in God? I believe humans and neither mentally capable of knowing where they come from, nor emotionally comfortable with not knowing where they came from. Someday, humans will evolve to a point where they will have the answers, if they don't eradicate their species first. Until then, we have the concept of God.
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So what are you going to do with all this data, Hutch?
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So what are you going to do with all this data, Hutch?
Be a thoroughly unlikable, humorless bore.
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1. How many haircuts did you get in 2017?
(one, every month)
2. Name your favorite Tom Waits release/album (compilations ok)
(none . . . for i hate that motherfucker; more than any other living musician, on the planet)
3. Most satisfying sexual position
(hands on the back of a couch, ass open to the wind, stick it in)
4. Do you have a car?
(i have two)
5. The concert you are most glad you where at
(2017 - Flaming Lips at the club on my birthday, and of all time - 3rd row U2 Zoo TV tour RFK)
6. Do you prefer the term "latino" or "hispanic"
(latino . . . it is sexxxier)
7.musical instrument you wish you could play
(the drums . . . i played them in band in school, both bass and that other one)
8. Did you buy a Christmas tree this year?
(no, we decided to recycle the ole fake one from the basement)
9. Average time of work commute
(I work 3 jobs . . . one is 30 minutes, one is 45, and one varies depending on where i have to go from county to county)
10. Do you believe in God?
(why would you not? who do you think invented all of this; phil rizzuto? the levels of conscious hierarchy and realms of reality so far beyond what we can understand, only proves that a power is there and it is real. here, i will let you in on a secret. attempt what is called archangel mediation contact. whether you believe it or not . . . it does not matter. god likes that you don't believe in it, so there. through meditation you can contact an archangel, who will come to you and prove to you that all of it real, that everything from God to human connection is alive, as you openly weep through the process. you're, welcome.
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So what are you going to do with all this data, Hutch?
Buy us Christmas presents?
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1. How many haircuts did you get in 2017?
1 or 2...I hate them
2. Name your favorite Tom Waits release/album (compilations ok)
Nighthawks
3. Most satisfying sexual position
Cant answer
4. Do you have a car?
Y
5. The concert you are most glad you where at
Johnny Cash at 930
6. Do you prefer the term "latino" or "hispanic"
Latino
7.musical instrument you wish you could play
Guitar
8. Did you buy a Christmas tree this year?
Yes
9. Average time of work commute
20 min
10. Do you believe in God?
No. But reserve right to change mind.
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10. Do you believe in God?
who do you think invented all of this; phil rizzuto?
Until you mentioned it, I hadn't thought he might be a player in this...but I think he'd be great and would gladly kiss his ring
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10. Do you believe in God?
who do you think invented all of this; phil rizzuto?
Until you mentioned it, I hadn't thought he might be a player in this...but I think he'd be great and would gladly kiss his ring
Concur. Now a total believer in the Rizzutogenesis.
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1. How many haircuts did you get in 2017?
Probly 6. I needed more, but i procrastinate.
2. Name your favorite Tom Waits release/album (compilations ok)
Can't say i know him. Is he that "Missing You" guy?
4. Do you have a car?
Yes, aforementioned.
5. The concert you are most glad you where at
Hmm. Maybe Lou Reed.
7.musical instrument you wish you could play
Odd question. I dont wish i could play an instrument.
8. Did you buy a Christmas tree this year?
Nope.
9. Average time of work commute.
21 minute drive, 7 minute walk.
10. Do you believe in God?
I dont believe in gods.
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I'd put the Johnny Cash 9:30 show near my top as well. Also saw him at a festival in Alabama.
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To me, Tom Waits has always been the ultimate music snob's artists. And I tend to think of people who take the time to post on music related message boards are the ultimate music snobs. Hence, I'm surprised at how many people here don't care for Tom Waits.
Secondly, a question for those who aren't 100% on their belief in God. How do you reconcile that with your celebration of the Christian holiday Christmas (assuming you celebrate it?)
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How do you reconcile that with your celebration of the Christian holiday Christmas (assuming you celebrate it?)
because in my family it has zero to do with the baby jesus and exclusively around giving gifts, spending time with family and decorating a tree with non denominational ornaments.
that it happens to coincide with what a bunch of Christians do...well I could care less
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How do you reconcile that with your celebration of the Christian holiday Christmas (assuming you celebrate it?)
because in my family it has zero to do with the baby jesus and exclusively around giving gifts, spending time with family and decorating a tree with non denominational ornaments.
that it happens to coincide with what a bunch of Christians do...well I could care less
So you're a massive hypocrite?
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So you're a massive hypocrite?
Definition of hypocrite: a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings
My stated belief is that I don't recognize the baby jesus as anything other than one human born two centuries ago
I don't think there is one line in the bible about giving gifts and decorating a tree at the end of December?
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So you're a massive hypocrite?
Definition of hypocrite: a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings
My stated belief is that I don't recognize the baby jesus as anything other than one human born two centuries ago
I don't think there is one line in the bible about giving gifts and decorating a tree at the end of December?
So you're a massive hypocrite?
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Although Christians and non-Christians alike celebrate Christmas, the new survey shows they have differing views of the holiday. Two-thirds of Christians (65%) say Christmas is mostly a religious holiday, while most non-Christians see the holiday as more of a “cultural” event than a religious occasion.
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Although Christians and non-Christians alike celebrate Christmas, the new survey shows they have differing views of the holiday. Two-thirds of Christians (65%) say Christmas is mostly a religious holiday, while most non-Christians see the holiday as more of a “cultural” event than a religious occasion.
What percent of Jews, Muslims, Hindus and Buddhists celebrate Christmas and see it as a "cultural" event?
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So you're a massive hypocrite?
Definition of hypocrite: a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings
My stated belief is that I don't recognize the baby jesus as anything other than one human born two centuries ago
I don't think there is one line in the bible about giving gifts and decorating a tree at the end of December?
Are you saying that if you *were* a Christian, you would strictly follow the Bible? Because a lot of the shit Catholics do isn't in the Bible. And I'm not just talking about the molesting, I'm talking about the rituals.
Also, are you saying Jesus was born in 1817?
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Although Christians and non-Christians alike celebrate Christmas, the new survey shows they have differing views of the holiday. Two-thirds of Christians (65%) say Christmas is mostly a religious holiday, while most non-Christians see the holiday as more of a “cultural” event than a religious occasion.
What percent of Jews, Muslims, Hindus and Buddhists celebrate Christmas and see it as a "cultural" event?
you left out atheists, satanists and what ever Julian is
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Although Christians and non-Christians alike celebrate Christmas, the new survey shows they have differing views of the holiday. Two-thirds of Christians (65%) say Christmas is mostly a religious holiday, while most non-Christians see the holiday as more of a “cultural” event than a religious occasion.
What percent of Jews, Muslims, Hindus and Buddhists celebrate Christmas and see it as a "cultural" event?
you left out atheists, satanists and what ever Julian is
So are you saying that atheists and Satanists typically choose to celebrate a Christian holiday, but Jews, Muslims, Hindus, and Buddhists do not? Why is that?
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Actually sidehatch that makes no sense..but I get you could care less
It is also a wasted opportunity
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It is also a wasted opportunity
How so?
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If we're going by biblical Christ anecdotes; my co-worker, who is a Jehovah's Witness, claims the reason they don't hold celebrations, while believing in Christ, is because the Bible makes no claim of Jesus' birth date or references a celebration of such within text. So in his words December 25th is just some arbitrary date.
I personally feel that it's safe to say that we live in a country where most Christmas revelers' primary image of the holiday is: fat man, red coat, and delicately wrapped (if you're my SO) expensive gifts (do people really gift cars for Christmas... 1995 Toyota Corolla here so what do I know) and a pine tree or reasonable facsimile. None of which, I think, existed at some time early AD in the middle east.
To me, "non-believers" celebrating Christmas is like a family that chooses to root for a sports team that they have no (or at best a tenuous) affiliation with. It's their choice, it's fun to have something that you like to do.
Maybe we should just roll pagan Christmas celebrations in with Thanksgiving, they're already playing the songs by then. That way the true believers can have the whole day for quiet contemplation or religious ceremony.
Also, I grew up baptized Catholic with a lapsed Jewish father. . . So I celebrate what I know. . . Presents, gelt and Chinese food.
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If we're going by biblical Christ anecdotes; my co-worker, who is a Jehovah's Witness, claims the reason they don't hold celebrations, while believing in Christ, is because the Bible makes no claim of Jesus' birth date or references a celebration of such within text. So in his words December 25th is just some arbitrary date.
This isn't really a claim, it's an established fact regardless of one's religious leanings. There was no Julian Calendar in Biblical times; December 25th did not exist. There is no date (via the Jewish calendar) given in the Bible, and most anecdotal evidence points to it being more in line with fall.
December 25th was decided upon at the Council of Nicea (or Trent, I forget). It gave sanction the habit early Christians had of turning the pagan holidays around the winter solstice into a "Christian" holiday to fit in. Similar story with Easter (which falls on a different date every year because, again, the Julian calendar did not exist and so Nican 14 falls on a different day each year).
None of these things are actually in the Bible, they're just morphed version of pagan holidays. Which is fitting since Christianity is a morphed version of pagan religions to begin with.
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So wait. If I -- AND IM NOT SAYING I DID -- but if I were to have enjoyed a sufganiyot last week, would I need to repent? Should I refrain from getting a paczki this year? To whom should I apologize? Am I to feel bad about my behavior?
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Maybe the atheists need to come up with their own raspberry jelly filled donut-centric holiday.
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I'll get this back on track.
1. How many haircuts did you get in 2017? - Roughly one a quarter
2. Name your favorite Tom Waits release/album (compilations ok) - N/A
3. Most satisfying sexual position - half asleep, roll over, find the spot
4. Do you have a car? - Yes
5. The concert you are most glad you where at - Hmm... in 2017... Phish in Mexico
6. Do you prefer the term "latino" or "hispanic" - Latino
7.musical instrument you wish you could play - I can kind of play guitar, really bad... so I wish I could play it well.
8. Did you buy a Christmas tree this year? - Yes, every year
9. Average time of work commute - About 10 to 15 footsteps depending on stride
10. Do you believe in God? - Maybe
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Regarding Tom Waits. . .
Should (or is) his discography ever split between like pre/post Swordfishtrombone?
I feel like that was a point of jettisoning of what would have been a generally respectable sound of possibly diminishing returns for a sound that eventually "music snobs" would use is juxtaposition of earlier trend to deify him to some degree as a some sort of hobo Buddha.
I think that he probably would have followed a trajectory of a Randy Newman or (probably more likely) Warren Zevon if he hadn't made the change (which I think is interesting as all three started at the time as piano based composers and had a relationship with the Eagles, but aren't exactly thaaaaaat west coast).
I like him, I appreciate the faux jazz and think that he works in an idiom of non-traditional (broadly speaking) pop.
My girlfriend hates it all. . . early stuff is too boring and later stuff just sounds like he needs water.
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Regarding Tom Waits. . .
Should (or is) his discography ever split between like pre/post Swordfishtrombone?
I feel like that was a point of jettisoning of what would have been a generally respectable sound of possibly diminishing returns for a sound that eventually "music snobs" would use is juxtaposition of earlier trend to deify him to some degree as a some sort of hobo Buddha.
I think that he probably would have followed a trajectory of a Randy Newman or (probably more likely) Warren Zevon if he hadn't made the change (which I think is interesting as all three started at the time as piano based composers and had a relationship with the Eagles, but aren't exactly thaaaaaat west coast).
I like him, I appreciate the faux jazz and think that he works in an idiom of non-traditional (broadly speaking) pop.
My girlfriend hates it all. . . early stuff is too boring and later stuff just sounds like he needs water.
This post is Space-approved. Nice.
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I think the thing I loathe most about Tom Waits is that the track he contributes to on Sparklehorse's It's A Wonderful Life sullies what is otherwise a masterpiece.