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Title: the weed, thread
Post by: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on February 09, 2018, 01:25:41 pm
this, is crazy

https://nypost.com/2018/02/01/inside-this-states-loophole-where-you-can-gift-weed/

can bars start doing this?  i'll buy the glass, and get the beer "gifted to me."

weed is blasé.  weed is boring.  weed is almost legal . . . so get over it and your,self.  i am glad i quit doing it, though, because it is a drug that controls you to some degree, like alcohol, like tobacco . . . and smoke is bad.

the, end . . . of this post, not this thread.

edit, and i know we have a legal drugs . . . wheee thread, but pot is not legal, and pot should not be discussed there.

now, the, end again.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on February 09, 2018, 01:30:00 pm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-146853/Why-cannabis-greater-cancer-risk-tobacco.html
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on February 09, 2018, 01:30:50 pm
https://www.inverse.com/article/41007-republican-senator-hints-at-marijuana-legislation
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on February 09, 2018, 01:31:25 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTO4yxFjFkk
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on February 09, 2018, 01:32:13 pm
http://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/virginia/medical-cannabis-oil-bill-approved-by-all-virginia-lawmakers/515025027
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 09, 2018, 02:50:13 pm
http://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/virginia/medical-cannabis-oil-bill-approved-by-all-virginia-lawmakers/515025027
this one was a big deal locally and meant to post something here

very important detail in the lead as well: approved by all Virginia lawmakers
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 15, 2018, 12:03:51 pm
looking like Online is the next wave for weed
#cancan

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/ontario-shopify-marijuana-online-shopping-1.4531228
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on April 11, 2018, 01:48:06 pm
John Boehner, a long-time hardcore anti-pot government official, has now suddenly changed his mind and wants it fully legal so everybody can have it. Of course he also just decided to be a part of a company that grows and sells it so he can become a billionaire off of it.

Fuck, him.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 11, 2018, 02:04:47 pm
what a boner

by the way recreational use and sale of weed in dc is kind of this weird limbo

but get on instagram, find a 171 compliant event...the quality, selection and price are all amazing!
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on September 17, 2018, 10:02:57 am
pot news goes here.

I am enjoying this whole . . . weed was evil, weed is the devil, you can't smoke or even have that in here our establishment, and did we mention it's evil and satan and horrible and you better starting paying $11 for a beer, to make up for how horrible it is.

until now . . . when you can make a buck off it.

fuck off, America.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/coca-cola-is-eyeing-the-cannabis-market/ar-BBNrPnz?ocid=spartandhp
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 17, 2018, 10:26:09 am
pot news goes here.
Noted...do like the title of that other thread...even though it was about cough medicine when it was started

Quote
I am enjoying this whole . . . weed was evil, weed is the devil, you can't smoke or even have that in here our establishment, and did we mention it's evil and satan and horrible and you better starting paying $11 for a beer, to make up for how horrible it is.
So you make in point that makes me think about the price per buzz comparison ...especially with legal weed

I can get a sweet pre-rolled 1 g cone for around $8 and that will keep 5 or so people probably happy for a few hours
Take getting craft beer at a bar (easily $10 a pint after tax/tip)
...that tab would close to $150 and people will probably only be slightly buzzed

Obviously totally different experiences
I love good beer, but the hole that it has been putting in my wallet is enormous
You can't even get shitty beer for less than $6
I paid $10 for a bomber of Natty Boh at soundstage...that's insane
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Yada on September 17, 2018, 10:30:28 am
pot news goes here.
Notted...do like the title of that other thread...even though it was about cough medicine when it was started

Quote
I am enjoying this whole . . . weed was evil, weed is the devil, you can't smoke or even have that in here our establishment, and did we mention it's evil and satan and horrible and you better starting paying $11 for a beer, to make up for how horrible it is.
So you make in point that makes me think about the price per buzz comparison ...especially with legal weed

I can get a sweet pre-rolled 1 g cone for around $8 and that will keep 5 or so people probably happy for a few hours
Take getting craft beer at a bar (easily $10 a pint after tax/tip)
...that tab would close to $150 and people will probably only be slightly buzzed

Obviously totally different experiences
I love good beer, but the hole that it has been putting in my wallet is enormous
You can't even get shitty beer for less than $6
I paid $10 for a bomber of Natty Boh at soundstage...that's insane

This has been my go to concert buzz for 2018. This plus one or two beers = cheap night and good buzz.

(https://d2rtvgqumswrn4.cloudfront.net/inc/uploads/2018/04/27225918/Terra_Edibles.jpg)
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Relaxer on September 17, 2018, 02:25:13 pm
Where do you get those ^^^^ ?

My gf and I have become big proponents of weed gummies. Every Sunday for the last month or two, we've each popped a gummy and then wandered around one museum or another staring at art. Yesterday was the Hirshhorn.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Bagley on September 17, 2018, 04:11:28 pm
Where do you get those ^^^^ ?

My gf and I have become big proponents of weed gummies. Every Sunday for the last month or two, we've each popped a gummy and then wandered around one museum or another staring at art. Yesterday was the Hirshhorn.

Hopefully you hit the Burning Man exhibit at the Renwick.  I believe it's just one floor now but very worthwhile.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ggw on September 17, 2018, 04:33:04 pm
Where do you get those ^^^^ ?

My gf and I have become big proponents of weed gummies. Every Sunday for the last month or two, we've each popped a gummy and then wandered around one museum or another staring at art. Yesterday was the Hirshhorn.

Hopefully you hit the Burning Man exhibit at the Renwick.  I believe it's just one floor now but very worthwhile.

You know, I really liked that exhibit, but I felt like the whole idea of a Burning Man museum exhibit (complete with gift shop) was kind of antithetical to the whole Burning Man anti-commoditization ethos.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Relaxer on September 18, 2018, 12:11:25 pm
I feel like the Burning Man event long ago lost any philosophical ethos it may have had in the 90s, but I say that not really knowing anything about it apart from the people that are SOOOO INTO IT BRO.

And hell yeah, we did Burning Man the prior weekend was Renwick. We'd just finished lunch and were wondering what to do next. I checked my Instagram and a friend had posted about the BM exhibit and 20 minutes later, we were floating around the Renwick and really enjoying it. I think it closes very soon so go check it out ASAP.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 18, 2018, 12:33:45 pm
while I've never done a burn and yes it's not the same as the 90s
it's amazing that a city of 60K people can just appear in the desert and be gone a few weeks later
no government involvment
and other than your entrance fee...supposed to be a no cash zone...bartertown (just like road warrior...with out all the violence)

I regret not doing it once when I lived on the west coast
yes burners are a little over the top about it...but there really is no comparison to anything else


look at the photo in this article where you can drag the before and after
https://www.businessinsider.com/burning-man-leave-no-trace-photo-2017-8
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 18, 2018, 01:01:28 pm
And hell yeah, we did Burning Man the prior weekend was Renwick. We'd just finished lunch and were wondering what to do next. I checked my Instagram and a friend had posted about the BM exhibit and 20 minutes later, we were floating around the Renwick and really enjoying it. I think it closes very soon so go check it out ASAP.
Went to that on Labor Day. Show closes in two stages, if the first isn't already done, it will be imminently. Great exhibit. The vehicles were amazing.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: vansmack on September 18, 2018, 01:20:35 pm
yes burners are a little over the top about it...but there really is no comparison to anything else

The only thing worse than Burning Man is the incessant post Burning Man discussion about how impactful it was on the participants...
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Relaxer on September 18, 2018, 01:58:37 pm
I pretty much put Burning Man into the same category as Crossfit. Positive and cool in theory, but it all goes away in a shitstorm when you have to be around the people who do it.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 18, 2018, 02:01:26 pm
I pretty much put Burning Man into the same category as Crossfit. Positive and cool in theory, but it all goes away in a shitstorm when you have to be around the people who do it.
I agree with this. The enthusiasts of both seem like just awful people.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Relaxer on September 18, 2018, 02:09:54 pm
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1881/30895081398_a73a8a98db.jpg)

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1842/30895080168_57ae9cc77b.jpg)

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Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Relaxer on September 18, 2018, 02:13:46 pm
And then there were these boxes that you peer inside of using a little eyehole

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1856/44047045604_2141b9fabe.jpg)

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1855/30895079718_b1915c7d92.jpg)

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1879/30895079418_a41090705f.jpg)

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1844/30895247908_be135c443d.jpg)
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 18, 2018, 02:59:12 pm
I pretty much put Burning Man into the same category as Crossfit. Positive and cool in theory, but it all goes away in a shitstorm when you have to be around the people who do it.
I agree with this. The enthusiasts of both seem like just awful people.
I almost brought up crossfit...but the venn diagram doesn't exist of these two groups of people intersecting

IMO crossfiters are waaay more annoying
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 18, 2018, 03:00:03 pm
And then there were these boxes that you peer inside of using a little eyehole
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1856/44047045604_2141b9fabe.jpg)
Looks like a glory hole to me....sure you were in the right place?
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Relaxer on September 18, 2018, 03:08:29 pm
Look, like anybody would, I did put my dong through the hole but it turns out that spider isn't fed very often and unpleasantness followed.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ggw on September 19, 2018, 08:30:20 am
Massachusetts recreational sales could start this week (http://www.courant.com/business/hc-biz-mass-marijuana-dispensaries-update-20180912-story.html)

New Jersey fast-tracking recreational sales, forcing New York to consider the same (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-09-19/new-york-can-t-afford-to-let-new-jersey-pass-retail-pot-alone?srnd=premium)
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: hutch on September 19, 2018, 09:05:29 am
I wish I enjoyed weed more....I would be at shows eating marijuana chocolate bonbons
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: vansmack on September 19, 2018, 02:15:27 pm
I almost brought up crossfit...but the venn diagram doesn't exist of these two groups of people intersecting

IMO crossfiters are waaay more annoying

Wrong on both accounts.

When you go out to the desert and wear next to nothing, you want to look good.

And because you don't live near burning man, you don't have the same exposure.  They're both awful, if not the same people...
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 19, 2018, 02:24:38 pm
pot news goes here.

I am enjoying this whole . . . weed was evil, weed is the devil, you can't smoke or even have that in here our establishment, and did we mention it's evil and satan and horrible and you better starting paying $11 for a beer, to make up for how horrible it is.

until now . . . when you can make a buck off it.

fuck off, America.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/coca-cola-is-eyeing-the-cannabis-market/ar-BBNrPnz?ocid=spartandhp

i've been meaning to ask you this, walkies: why are you so angry?  anything we can do to help?

seems like the majority of your posts are "this thing sucks, everything sucks, there's not point to anything, look how absurd we are".  it does give you a brand, i suppose.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on September 19, 2018, 02:43:14 pm
I am an angry person . . . always have been.  I feel it's origination comes from me having to deal with being gay; having to hide it; having to hear people's treatment of gay people since I was a small kid.  I knew I was gay in the fourth grade, and by then I had already been told gay people will burn in hell, at church.  it really turned me into a ball of internal fury.  I understand the hatred of black people towards white people; the hatred from the past is hard to let go in the present.  it can eat you alive.

then . . . my anger turned into a life of never feeling as if, I was doing enough.  "this, is all I have accomplished?"  my job life over the past 20 to 30 years, really was a black hole of going nowhere, and I knew I had something to give, but I couldn't give it, and I didn't know how to change myself.  Then, I got lucky, and fell into a job that I love, and that people respect and act as if you are someone important. For the first time in my life . . . I feel like a successful human being.


I am trying to forget my past and let go of anger . . . but again, it is hard.  thank you, for your concern.


The, end.


Then, you have my mental issues.  I don't like people most of the time; they really piss me off with their shear stupidity towards each other and the human race in general.  I feel like so many people are so self centered and don't want to save this planet we are on.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 19, 2018, 02:47:02 pm
until now . . . when you can make a buck off it.

partnership for a drug free america is funded by alcohol companies and big pharma
weed's biggest threat is not our heath, but the health of the bottom line of big corps
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 19, 2018, 03:17:07 pm
I am an angry person . . . always have been.  I feel it's origination comes from me having to deal with being gay; having to hide it; having to hear people's treatment of gay people since I was a small kid.  I knew I was gay in the fourth grade, and by then I had already been told gay people will burn in hell, at church.  it really turned me into a ball of internal fury.  I understand the hatred of black people towards white people; the hatred from the past is hard to let go in the present.  it can eat you alive.

then . . . my anger turned into a life of never feeling as if, I was doing enough.  "this, is all I have accomplished?"  my job life over the past 20 to 30 years, really was a black hole of going nowhere, and I knew I had something to give, but I couldn't give it, and I didn't know how to change myself.  Then, I got lucky, and fell into a job that I love, and that people respect and act as if you are someone important. For the first time in my life . . . I feel like a successful human being.


I am trying to forget my past and let go of anger . . . but again, it is hard.  thank you, for your concern.


The, end.


Then, you have my mental issues.  I don't like people most of the time; they really piss me off with their shear stupidity towards each other and the human race in general.  I feel like so many people are so self centered and don't want to save this planet we are on.
Hey, look, someone actually had a gripe on here that wasn't somehow ass-blasted onto me, the forum's scapegoat du jour. How bizarre.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 19, 2018, 03:19:25 pm
give us time...we'll find a way to blame you for it
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 19, 2018, 03:20:31 pm
give us time...we'll find a way to blame you for it
I'm sure you all will. You're all an enterprising bunch of fellows.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 19, 2018, 03:21:05 pm
You're all an enterprising bunch of fellows.
P.S. + Katiebug + saintangelsin + bags
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 19, 2018, 03:23:17 pm
I don't like people most of the time; they really piss me off with their shear stupidity towards each other and the human race in general.  I feel like so many people are so self centered and don't want to save this planet we are on.
although this has Julian written all over it
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 19, 2018, 03:26:17 pm
  I feel like so many people are so self centered and don't want to save this planet we are on.
although this has Julian written all over it
Oh yes, blame the vegetarian who drives the Prius for being the environmental holocaust of the board.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 19, 2018, 03:38:13 pm
  I feel like so many people are so self centered and don't want to save this planet we are on.
although this has Julian written all over it
Oh yes, blame the vegetarian who drives the Prius for being the environmental holocaust of the board.
I was focusing on the  self centered part ;)
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 19, 2018, 03:39:52 pm
drives the Prius

Question: what do Julian, Hutch and Sidehatch have in common...weak mojo on muscle cars :)
least we don't drive Saturn's
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on September 19, 2018, 03:44:01 pm
I have only heard this to be true, so I don't know . . . Seth, hates weed.  Right?
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 19, 2018, 03:48:25 pm
I have only heard this to be true, so I don't know . . . Seth, hates weed.  Right?
insomuch that it competes with his bottom line
rumor has it he was an enterprising budtender in his day
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 19, 2018, 03:49:16 pm
Weed is one of those topics that I'm generally pretty neutral on and don't care about. (My cannabis loving wife gets offended when people use the term "weed"; she would be more into this thread.) So I generally skip over this thread. My bad luck, this was the MVP thread of the day so far.

And if the Saturn comment was directed toward me, I'm a *former* Saturn driver. Brennser too.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 19, 2018, 03:52:47 pm
I am an angry person . . . always have been.  I feel it's origination comes from me having to deal with being gay; having to hide it; having to hear people's treatment of gay people since I was a small kid.  I knew I was gay in the fourth grade, and by then I had already been told gay people will burn in hell, at church.  it really turned me into a ball of internal fury.  I understand the hatred of black people towards white people; the hatred from the past is hard to let go in the present.  it can eat you alive.

then . . . my anger turned into a life of never feeling as if, I was doing enough.  "this, is all I have accomplished?"  my job life over the past 20 to 30 years, really was a black hole of going nowhere, and I knew I had something to give, but I couldn't give it, and I didn't know how to change myself.  Then, I got lucky, and fell into a job that I love, and that people respect and act as if you are someone important. For the first time in my life . . . I feel like a successful human being.


I am trying to forget my past and let go of anger . . . but again, it is hard.  thank you, for your concern.


The, end.


Then, you have my mental issues.  I don't like people most of the time; they really piss me off with their shear stupidity towards each other and the human race in general.  I feel like so many people are so self centered and don't want to save this planet we are on.
Hey, look, someone actually had a gripe on here that wasn't somehow ass-blasted onto me, the forum's scapegoat du jour. How bizarre.

not unlike trump, you manage to make every story about you...
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 19, 2018, 03:57:16 pm
I am an angry person . . . always have been.  I feel it's origination comes from me having to deal with being gay; having to hide it; having to hear people's treatment of gay people since I was a small kid.  I knew I was gay in the fourth grade, and by then I had already been told gay people will burn in hell, at church.  it really turned me into a ball of internal fury.  I understand the hatred of black people towards white people; the hatred from the past is hard to let go in the present.  it can eat you alive.

then . . . my anger turned into a life of never feeling as if, I was doing enough.  "this, is all I have accomplished?"  my job life over the past 20 to 30 years, really was a black hole of going nowhere, and I knew I had something to give, but I couldn't give it, and I didn't know how to change myself.  Then, I got lucky, and fell into a job that I love, and that people respect and act as if you are someone important. For the first time in my life . . . I feel like a successful human being.

I am trying to forget my past and let go of anger . . . but again, it is hard.  thank you, for your concern.

The, end.

that's some pretty awesome self-awareness right there.  nice work.  glad to hear things have taken a turn for the better recently.

I don't like people most of the time; they really piss me off with their shear stupidity towards each other and the human race in general.  I feel like so many people are so self centered and don't want to save this planet we are on.

preach.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 19, 2018, 04:01:08 pm
And if the Saturn comment was directed toward me, I'm a *former* Saturn driver. Brennser too.
not unlike trump, you manage to make every story about you...

of course it was a dig on you guys....
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Yada on September 19, 2018, 04:08:02 pm
Where do you get those ^^^^ ?

My gf and I have become big proponents of weed gummies. Every Sunday for the last month or two, we've each popped a gummy and then wandered around one museum or another staring at art. Yesterday was the Hirshhorn.

A delivery guy named Mark.

I will say, the edibles of today are so nice compared to say the last 20 years when you would by accident eat 10 grams because your buddy or yourself had no idea how to make an edible. These things today are damn near perfect. I approve of these as well.

(https://dqzrr9k4bjpzk.cloudfront.net/images/13076065/811759454.jpg)
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 19, 2018, 04:09:02 pm
And if the Saturn comment was directed toward me, I'm a *former* Saturn driver. Brennser too.
not unlike trump, you manage to make every story about you...

of course it was a dig on you guys....

Well actually it was *you* who apparently referenced *me* (not me referencing me), in a thread that has nothing to do with me.  ;)
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 19, 2018, 04:17:01 pm
And if the Saturn comment was directed toward me, I'm a *former* Saturn driver. Brennser too.
not unlike trump, you manage to make every story about you...
Oh, I see how it is. Just copying sweetcell's comments about me when referring to someone else as some sort of dog-whistle Julian bashing. Great, just great.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on September 19, 2018, 05:00:53 pm
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/canadian-pot-stock-jumps-38-percent-in-wild-day-of-trading/ar-BBNy9H6?ocid=spartandhp

are, you listening, greedy shithead politicians?   
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 19, 2018, 05:11:03 pm
And if the Saturn comment was directed toward me, I'm a *former* Saturn driver. Brennser too.
not unlike trump, you manage to make every story about you...
Oh, I see how it is. Just copying sweetcell's comments about me when referring to someone else as some sort of dog-whistle Julian bashing. Great, just great.
you guys are really hip to my tactics
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 19, 2018, 06:57:51 pm
walkies, here's something worth getting angry about... how dare they.

Pompeo cracks down, on improper use, of commas at State Department (https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/19/politics/pompeo-commas-state-department/index.html)

HOW, DARE THEY, I, SAY
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on September 19, 2018, 08:20:12 pm
W,T,F,
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 19, 2018, 09:19:26 pm
W,T,F,
well played and on-brand
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 20, 2018, 04:24:53 pm
My 11 year old just walked in the door, home from school, and proclaimed, "Hey Space, wow, it's 4:20." And I said "What does that mean?" And she said, "That means it's high time!"
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 20, 2018, 04:25:22 pm
My 11 year old just walked in the door, home from school, and proclaimed, "Hey Space, wow, it's 4:20." And I said "What does that mean?" And she said, "That means it's high time!"

Well played and on brand.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 20, 2018, 04:50:32 pm
My 11 year old just walked in the door, home from school, and proclaimed, "Hey Space, wow, it's 4:20." And I said "What does that mean?" And she said, "That means it's high time!"
YOUR CHILD IS AWARE OF THE EXISTENCE OF MARIJUANA? They didn't think it was that new Tex-Mex place from down the block?
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ggw on September 20, 2018, 04:55:24 pm
My 11 year old just walked in the door, home from school, and proclaimed, "Hey Space, wow, it's 4:20." And I said "What does that mean?" And she said, "That means it's high time!"

Clearly the negative influence of your stoner wife.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Yada on September 20, 2018, 05:50:26 pm
I have it on good authority that "on brand" is the new buzz term of the forum.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: grateful on September 20, 2018, 06:40:51 pm
Can confirm.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 02, 2018, 09:50:40 pm
CA always ahead of the curve...weed in airports (https://gizmodo.com/you-don-t-need-to-sneak-weed-past-security-at-lax-1829474206)
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on October 02, 2018, 10:38:18 pm
Virginia, set to open first medical pot dispensaries; one in Staunton.  The only state in the US, to allow medical marijuana . . . with no THC.

Big Tobacco'd. 

I can't wait for the state, to legalize it completely, under the condition it can only be grown by dogs.

Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ggw on October 03, 2018, 06:50:09 am
Big Tobacco is actually not opposed to legalization. Like Big Food & Beverage, they see some obvious synergies. Big Pharma, on the other hand, is bankrolling much of the anti-legalization movement.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: challenged on October 03, 2018, 04:03:40 pm
 https://twitter.com/ThatEricAlper/status/1047286804645199872  (https://twitter.com/ThatEricAlper/status/1047286804645199872)
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on October 03, 2018, 04:18:15 pm
Big Tobacco is actually not opposed to legalization. Like Big Food & Beverage, they see some obvious synergies. Big Pharma, on the other hand, is bankrolling much of the anti-legalization movement.

one would think, that by now, big pharma would realize, that they could control TLC from now until the end of time.  I can see it now . . . going to Walgreens, to buy weed.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on October 03, 2018, 04:37:15 pm
one would think, that by now, big pharma would realize, that they could control TLC from now until the end of time.
That’s foolhardy thinking. The last time someone tried to control TLC, Left Eye burnt their house down.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 03, 2018, 05:09:10 pm
one would think, that by now, big pharma would realize, that they could control TLC from now until the end of time.
That’s foolhardy thinking. The last time someone tried to control TLC, Left Eye burnt their house down.
Damn, if that's my POTW
 I don't know what is
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on October 03, 2018, 06:25:05 pm
LOL'd

I am not fixing it . . . TLC stays.   

Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 05, 2018, 12:13:03 am
My gf and I have become big proponents of weed gummies. Every Sunday for the last month or two, we've each popped a gummy and then wandered around one museum or another staring at art. Yesterday was the Hirshhorn.

usually i can sit back in pure smugness and snort at you residents of non-recreational states (or those lacking a functional supply infrastructure)... then this (https://www.thestranger.com/slog/2018/10/04/33361367/buy-your-favorite-weed-gummies-and-candies-now-theyre-about-to-be-prohibited) brought me crashing down.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 05, 2018, 08:25:24 am
I do agree with Washington State Liquor and Cannabis Board (WSLCB) is about to prohibit cannabis-infused candies that look "especially appealing to children,"

Unfortunately I don't think you can trust the THC heads to be smart about this stuff
When it's in flower/liquid/wax form, it's not appealing for kids to eat or even know how to consume

but when it looks like a tasty gummie bear or choco covered blueberry...what kid wouldn't want to snarf down a handful.  I'm super paranoid about edibles in the house and treat them like a firearm...must be in a locked case

only thing I will state in addition to this, no one has ever died from a THC overdose (as far as I know)
but people die every year from overdoes of Aspirin and cough medicine and other more 'benign' substances
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: hutch on October 05, 2018, 09:17:26 am
Fuck when even the potheads don’t defend them ...
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ggw on October 05, 2018, 10:30:28 am
Massachusetts Grants First Two Recreational Dispensary Licenses (https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/2018/10/04/massachusett-final-recreational-marijuana-sales-licenses)
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 01, 2018, 10:29:50 pm
well played Mexico
http://fortune.com/2018/11/01/pot-ban-unconstitutional-mexican-supreme-court/
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ggw on November 07, 2018, 06:14:06 pm
Bowser to push for recreational sales in DC:

https://dc.curbed.com/2018/11/7/18072440/dc-legal-marijuana-weed-bowser-tax-regulate
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 21, 2018, 07:52:10 am
Go Joe, go Joe
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/417556-joe-kennedy-calls-for-legalizing-marijuana-at-the-federal-level
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Cock Van Der Palm on November 21, 2018, 10:12:11 pm
Just got my medical marijuana certification in Maryland. Pretty easy process for anyone thinking about getting one.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on December 07, 2018, 01:28:42 pm
I, have missed you too . . . Hutch.  Here's one more post, for today, for your entertainment.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/marlboro-maker-sinks-dollar18-billion-into-the-pot-business/ar-BBQD2MZ?ocid=spartandhp

Game over, man.  Game, over.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: hutch on December 07, 2018, 01:30:40 pm
It’s amazing to hear all the speculation about things pot is good for...dementia...autism

I should be buying it by the pound!!!
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 28, 2019, 05:00:55 pm
so barr is looking like the opposite of sessions when it comes to left handed cigarettes

Trump Attorney General Pick Puts Marijuana Enforcement Pledge In Writing (https://www.forbes.com/sites/tomangell/2019/01/28/trump-attorney-general-pick-puts-marijuana-enforcement-pledge-in-writing/#4b1101ec5435)

he pledged during his Senate confirmation hearing not to "go after" marijuana companies that comply with state laws.



I should be buying it by the pound!!!
I know a 'guy' if you need some help with this :)
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 15, 2019, 11:04:41 am
(https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/P9xELMGfHDt8cg6uR4VbJA--~A/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9ODAwO2lsPXBsYW5l/https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/5c8ba570200000450470f5b8.png.cf.jpg)
dang, I'm in the wrong profession
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: vansmack on March 15, 2019, 12:35:55 pm
dang, I'm in the wrong profession

They have to pay more because of the hassles of a cash based business.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 15, 2019, 12:38:10 pm
dang, I'm in the wrong profession

i suspect most folks in the industry are earning at the bottom end, and there are one or two rock stars who earn that top end... so unless you're making less than, say, 50k a year, you're probably not in the wrong profession.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: walkonbyeeeeeeeee on April 12, 2019, 09:14:03 am
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/this-70-year-old-ohio-man-grew-marijuana-to-help-sick-people-should-he-go-to-prison/ar-BBVQPrs?ocid=spartandhp

what, a pathetic country we live in.  let's go make some internet cat butthole memes about this.  that, will make us feel better, right?  as long as we can get our cbd gummies at rite aid, everything is a,ok.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 12, 2019, 09:22:50 am
it will be interesting to see how this one plays out
especially if it gets a lot of media attention (which I hope it does)


as Ohio is a Medical Marijuana state...with no clear rules on cultivation for patients
Problem is the mandatory minimums in that state....Judges are not allowed to use discretion
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 18, 2019, 08:56:55 am
wasn't expecting this...but I bring you the pot burger from Carls Jr (https://www.businessinsider.com/carls-jr-debuts-cbd-burger-2019-4?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=referral&utm_content=topbar&utm_term=desktop&referrer=facebook&fbclid=IwAR2nTmM6IVKCHZtU3GSDsZAxeBimCs231eZgXrjbVhEqnV5TgszrN8XqjBI)
(https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5cb63d845930d90d82376f44-1334-1001.jpg)
On Saturday, Carl's Jr. will debut the CBD-infused "Rocky Mountain High: CheeseBurger Delight" at a single location in Denver. The CBD burger will be available for $4.20 during the one-day test, fittingly held on April 20, a weed-filled celebration for many Americans.

Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 23, 2019, 10:59:19 am
As part of effort to study “a variety of pain-management issues and strategies for players,” the National Football League and the NFL Player’s Association have agreed to form two new joint medical committees, with a particular focus on marijuana as a pain management tool.


hehe...they are having two joint committees to see if Pot is good for the players
do you think the first committee will use sativa and the second indica?
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 23, 2019, 12:47:35 pm
As part of effort to study “a variety of pain-management issues and strategies for players,” the National Football League and the NFL Player’s Association have agreed to form two new joint medical committees, with a particular focus on marijuana as a pain management tool.

hehe...they are having two joint committees to see if Pot is good for the players
do you think the first committee will use sativa and the second indica?

how many players have been suspended for weed?  and now they want to study it with the possible outcome of it being prescribed to players? 


nice work, NFL.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 06, 2019, 08:58:15 am
so in this happy time of legalization/decriminalization across the country

I do think the states and feds need to revisit all those lives that were destroyed for minor possession and  and expunge their records

If you were arrested in the 90s for possession...you may have only served a little time, but you are punished for life
got caught underage drinking...slap on the wrist and you can become a supreme court judge

I'm glad to see Illinois is making an effort here
Illinois posed to legalize marijuana sales, expunge criminal records for pot crimes (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/05/31/legal-marijuana-illinois-could-become-11-th-state-legalize-weed/1305090001/)
with sweeping legislation that would also automatically expunge the criminal records of people convicted of minor pot possession.

I hope more states follow this
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 07, 2019, 09:36:22 am
Hell yeah Nevada...
Was pissed off at Governor Steve Sisolak for his veto of the Nat'l Pop Vote...but he get's a thumbs up for this

Nevada: Governor Signs Measure Sealing Past Marijuana Convictions
Sisolak also signed into law a bill that makes it easier to seal a past low-level marijuana conviction by permitting a person to request a court to seal criminal records tied to any offense that is decriminalized.


Kinda missed this part when I was touting his Felon voting rights action
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 13, 2019, 11:41:45 am
Gov Sleestak is really making it hard for me to be mad a him
Nevada becomes 1st state to ban most pre-employment pot tests (https://abcnews.go.com/US/nevada-1st-state-ban-pre-employment-pot-tests/story?id=63656557)

cranberry and golden seal market plummets in NV as a result
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Bagley on June 13, 2019, 12:12:39 pm
ancient chinese secret

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/culture/2019/06/earliest-evidence-cannabis-marijuana-smoking-china-tombs/
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 25, 2019, 05:19:03 pm
Illinois becomes 11th state legalize recreational marijuana
and

Legalization in Illinois also means that nearly 800,000 people with criminal records for purchasing or possessing 30 grams of marijuana or less may have those records expunged
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 07, 2019, 10:20:21 am
Every Lobster (https://downeast.com/cook-lobster-with-cannabis) Must Get Stoned

(https://downeast.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/1907_Lobster8-600.jpg)
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: hutch on July 07, 2019, 09:07:52 pm
I think this should be cross posted in the onion thread
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 11, 2019, 12:15:04 pm
Legal marijuana looks to be boosting snack sales
can we file this under 'duh'
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 27, 2019, 04:57:36 pm
The CDC announced Friday that THC vape products have been linked to a majority of patients with vaping-related lung injuries, citing to data from 1 local and 1 national study.

finally a little more info on this after 12 have died...but The CDC and health officials still cannot identify a definite product or source
umm that's not giving me a lot of confidence they know what is going on...


I'm in favor of major regulation on product safety.  the black market is as big as it's ever been with all this legalization which we assumed was going to shrink it.  and there is little to no regard to safety in the black market
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: vansmack on September 27, 2019, 05:10:24 pm
It's almost certainly Vitamin E (and other oils) added to black market vaping products, purchased mostly off the street (and at least one in a cannabis shop).

2 weeks ago they identified 5 of the 6 deaths as black market, the last one an Oregon dispensary.  I doubt the next 6 have changed the pattern much.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 27, 2019, 05:33:52 pm
well, so I hear ya
but there have been millions of these sold on the black market in the past few years
why did it just start a few months ago?  What changed?
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 27, 2019, 05:38:16 pm
vitamin E has been found in many, but not all, of the vapes used by those affected with this condition.  cyanide via pesticides (https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/27/tests-show-bootleg-marijuana-vapes-tainted-with-hydrogen-cyanide.html) is another form of nastiness that has been detected.  turning anything into an aerosol and inhaling it is a bad idea, so while a few ingredients like vitamin E or pesticides are really bad, there is nothing that is "good"...

i have a marijuana vaping thingy (i'm in WA, everyone has one) and i wasn't a huge fan even before this lung disease thing hit the news.  on the plus side it's really fast/convenient and it doesn't stink up your breath like a joint - useful in many social settings.  on the downside, it doesn't taste nearly as nice as a J and the effect is different... i call it the "THC sledgehammer".  it's not unlike the difference between craft beer/wine vs. doing shots of vodka - both will get you to the same destination but i know which ride i prefer.  my device has been shelved since the news broke, and i doubt i'll ever pick it up again.


but there have been millions of these sold on the black market in the past few years
why did it just start a few months ago?  What changed?

scale and awareness.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 08, 2019, 09:16:30 pm
I still a little surprised they have not found a smoking gun now we are at 20 deaths and illness in almost every state

I don't think I've heard of any international incidents?

And I want to restate, these things have been in wide spread use for at least 4 or 5 years
I'm talking in the millions of users
So it's strange how this summer an epidemic spreads across the country like this
and pretty much banning it everywhere (while that many people die daily from guns)

 
US health officials are still uncertain what exactly is causing the new disease, but have urged Americans to stay away from THC and marijuana vapes

Recent research has suggest that it may be 'toxic fumes' in the e-liquid juices that sickening people, rather than a result of oils in them getting into the lungs, as previously believed.

'I wish we had more answers about the specific products causing these illnesses,' said Dr Schuchat. 


Personally, never really vape
joints or sick edibles
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 24, 2019, 03:34:59 pm
body count at 34 now
The CDC maintains no single e-cigarette product or compound has been linked to the pulmonary illnesses and there is no evidence that an infectious disease is the culprit.

they keep saying "It is possible that some of these cases were already occurring and we were not picking them up"
but you'd think by mid October they would have already dug deep into the data to see if they were missing things

Still, more people die from improperly filled prescriptions daily and the crazy BS that is allowed to go on with Compounding Pharmacy
(if you didn't see John Oliver's story on that...https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2019/09/john-oliver-breaks-down-compounding-pharmacies-on.html scary stuff)
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: nkotb on October 24, 2019, 04:34:33 pm
Couple of threads this would fit under, but this seemed most appropriate:

Bernie Sanders released a plan to legalize marijuana (at 4:20 pm)
 (https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/10/24/20930422/bernie-sanders-marijuana-legalization-plan?utm_campaign=vox&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter)
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 25, 2019, 12:35:38 pm
Add DC to the list
First Vaping-Related Death Reported In D.C. (https://dcist.com/story/19/10/25/first-vaping-related-death-reported-in-d-c/)
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 28, 2019, 07:36:12 pm
Deaths linked to vaping often involved THC products, not nicotine, CDC says (https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/28/health/cdc-vaping-death-data-mmwr/index.html)

summary: THC seems to be a bigger culprit than nicotine (or at least the ingredients in THC vapes), typical patient is a white male, older patients had a higher mortality rate vs. younger patients who tend to get sick only (but in much, much higher numbers).
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 28, 2019, 08:10:44 pm
I hear you, but not conclusively only aftermarket THC vape (now I'm not going to argue there are some shady individuals in this product creation)
16% said they'd only vaped nicotine-containing products.
that's a pretty high percentage

Dr. Anne Schuchat, CDC's principal deputy director, told reporters Friday. "But I'd like to stress that we don't know what the risky material or substance is. THC may be a marker for a way that cartridges were prepared or way that the devices are producing harm."


again the sudden appearance of this and that they really don't have a clue
10's of MILLIONS use vape products and have for years

I'm going to say it because no one else has the balls to....IT IS CHEMTRAILS
jaguar was right

count is at 36 deaths accoring to that article!
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: grateful on October 28, 2019, 08:38:34 pm
The Science Vs podcast this week did a decent summary of the issue.  Not really sure how sciencey it is tho...
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 07, 2019, 03:28:25 pm
into November, body count is rising...still don't know what's up

There are 2,051 confirmed and probable cases of lung injury in 49 states, and 39 deaths associated with e-cigarette use as of Nov. 5, the Centers for Disease and Control and Prevention announced Thursday.(11/7/19)

The big picture: Minimal progress has been made in uncovering the specific cause of these respiratory illnesses


yes a high percent were black market, but what changed, there have been black market vapes for over 5 years and didn't appear to be killing people until this summer
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: hutch on November 07, 2019, 03:44:50 pm
Pro tip: smoking kills
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 07, 2019, 03:55:06 pm
Pro tip: smoking kills
no duh
but typically not 20 year olds
it's those who smoke for 20-40 years

vaping is not healthy, no doubt
but according to the CDC Cigarette smoking is responsible for more than 480,000 deaths per year in the United States
that's a scary number
so 39 just sounds like a rounding error in the scheme of things
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: hutch on November 07, 2019, 04:01:21 pm
You have data on people who vaped 20-40 years?
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 07, 2019, 04:19:58 pm
of course not and black market vapes is the biggest unknown
but as I said there are not 20 year olds dying from smoking a pack of reds a day
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on November 07, 2019, 04:28:35 pm
of course not and black market vapes is the biggest unknown
but as I said there are not 20 year olds dying from smoking a pack of reds a day
What about Camel Blues? Parliaments?
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 07, 2019, 04:51:59 pm
of course not and black market vapes is the biggest unknown
but as I said there are not 20 year olds dying from smoking a pack of reds a day
What about Camel Blues? Parliaments?
no Kools...what are you a racist
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on November 07, 2019, 04:57:33 pm
of course not and black market vapes is the biggest unknown
but as I said there are not 20 year olds dying from smoking a pack of reds a day
What about Camel Blues? Parliaments?
no Kools...what are you a racist
I don't smoke Kools, I be cool.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 08, 2019, 03:47:21 pm
vitamin E

Welp sweets called it
https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/08/health/vaping-injury-vitamin-e-thc-bn/index.html
not a firm causation yet, but looking likely
The 16% who never used THC cut with E may have
been lying
just happened to have lung issues and were lumped into this

Hard to say the blackmarket vapes will recover
unfortunately in DC we are still in this crazy limbo stance and there are not legitimate stores that you can by regulated stuff
get on the ball DC and other states
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on November 08, 2019, 04:39:28 pm
Hard to say the blackmarket vapes will recover
What exactly constitutes "blackmarket" vapes? The big brands you see -- Kingpen, SmartCarts, Bape Vapes, etc -- are these blackmarket? (I understand there are probably knockoffs of "name" brands, but a legit Kingpen cartridge, is that blackmarket?)

If those are "black market", what are "non-black market cartridges"? If those are not black market, what is black market? Some home-filled thing that doesn't come in a cardboard box?

Pardon my ignorance on the subject matter if I'm not wording the question artfully.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 08, 2019, 04:59:30 pm
I am not sure either...there is no regulation
but those boxes can just be bought and from what I read, and put what ever you want in there
But at least in Seattle, you go into the place and they know the product and who they bought it from
so there is some level of trust there that they know the vendors and want to continue to do business

When I say blackmarket, it's the guys who sell them on the street or in these Pop-ups
you go and it's a lot of random vendors

So I'm not familiar with any of the 'big brands' you listed
But I'm sure in states like Colorado, Washington and Cali, there are credible vendors who you can trust

I personally don't buy the cartridges, pretty much all flower or 'sick' edibles
but I have a lot of friends who do and hope their source wasn't using this Vit E technique
who would have thought something like Vitamin E would be somewhat toxic when heated up and vaporized

I guess my comment is, how can you trust any on the market now
not like there is a test for verifying the content
I just think there are going to be crash in the price (gotta imagine that has already happened...but I don't know)
but when you can get for $5 what was $25, lots of people will buy
I have got to imagine that the people who make these cartridges have 100s of thousands if not millions of dollars invested in already made cartridges...and they don't want to lose their money

I only play a pot dr on the internet...I know very little on this topic on this level
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 08, 2019, 05:07:23 pm
The only thing i care less about than vape issues is transgender issues.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 08, 2019, 05:46:55 pm
The only thing i care less about than vape issues is transgender issues.

^ this, ladies and gentlemen, it what we call "brand reinforcement".
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: grateful on November 08, 2019, 05:49:15 pm
who would have thought something like Vitamin E would be somewhat toxic when heated up and vaporized

This is exactly what pisses me off about the whole thing.

Your lungs are a special purpose organ whose job it is to enable the exchange of oxygen and carbon dioxide between ambient air and your bloodstream.

Who would have thought that breathing anything other than clean air would be harmful? 

FFS anybody with a brain. 

Dont smoke. Dont vape. Dont use inhalants. Reduce pollution. Avoid breathing car exhaust and industrial cleaning chemicals. (https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2019/11/08/buffalo-wild-wings-cleaner-incident-mxp-vpx.hln)

Anyone who still smokes / vapes / inhales and thinks those things are risk-free is a moron.

#soapbox
/deep bow/
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: grateful on November 08, 2019, 05:49:58 pm
Also, don't be an idiot.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 08, 2019, 06:10:16 pm
Also, don't be an idiot.
idiot's have rights too!

For sure risk and yes anything other than clean ole air is not good for your lungs
I'm never going to argue that

What about all that stuff they burn on stage at a Heilung concert, that's going to shorten your life span
but you'll still go, accepting the risk

But this is why you are 50 and still get carded ;)
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 08, 2019, 06:10:51 pm
Hard to say the blackmarket vapes will recover
What exactly constitutes "blackmarket" vapes? The big brands you see -- Kingpen, SmartCarts, Bape Vapes, etc -- are these blackmarket? (I understand there are probably knockoffs of "name" brands, but a legit Kingpen cartridge, is that blackmarket?)

"black market" = folks making their own vape cartridges in their kitchens.  they buy empty cartridges in bulk, fill them with home-made or bought liquid THC (often imported from china), sometimes add adulterants and dilutants, and sell their product out the back of their car/on a street corner, or, more likely, online via existing online marketplaces like etsy, ebay, etc.  they are not a legit business, or even attempting to be.  it's literally home-made vapes.

Kingpen is a legit company, so their actual products are not black market.  the complication arises from fakes (https://merryjane.com/culture/how-to-spot-fake-kingpen-weed-vape-cartridges) - above-mentioned cartridge-packers can easily copy the packing from legit brands and sell them to unsuspecting consumers. 
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 08, 2019, 06:13:24 pm
Kingpen
I wanna be your kingpen
Living in Peken
I wanna be your bigwig
Living in Peken

that's great that they are doing that
Never had the pleasure of a Kingpen, but now I'll seek out and look out for counterfeits
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Yada on November 09, 2019, 08:25:06 am
Stick to #sickedis™ and none of this is an issue.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Yada on November 09, 2019, 08:32:26 am
Actually.  Be careful.

https://boxden.com/showthread.php?t=2806206
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 20, 2019, 02:24:59 pm
man those do nothing dems getting nothing done

Udi Ofer @UdiACLU
Breaking: MORE Act just passed House Judiciary! All Dems & 2 Reps voted for it. It would remove cannabis from the Controlled Substances Act and create a new office tasked w/ providing restorative justice 2 communities disproportionately impacted by cannabis prohibition. Big deal!


will get a floor vote and pass....then will thud on Mitch's desk
(https://media1.giphy.com/media/26zzbNl5r3wy1sQQE/giphy.gif)


it is crazy to think what would have happened if one rep had entered a bill like this 20 years ago
The Marijuana Opportunity Reinvestment and Expungement (MORE) Act of 2019 passed by a count of 24-10.
Jerry Nadler (D-N.Y.), chairman of the committee, introduced the bill and has gathered over 50 cosponsors of the bill in the House
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 18, 2019, 02:00:00 pm
seriously congress...the voters in 2015 said weed should be recreational in DC...stop preventing it

Congress will continue to prohibit D.C. from passing any bill legalizing or regulating  marijuana sales as a part of the federal spending bill (https://dcist.com/story/19/12/17/d-c-s-plans-to-sell-recreational-weed-are-up-in-smoke-thanks-to-new-spending-bill/)


although in good news apperntly today dec 11th... Virginia is having had a Cannibals Summit (https://wamu.org/story/19/12/12/virginia-officials-explore-legalizing-marijuana-at-cannabis-summit/)
The topic of discussion: how and when the Commonwealth could start loosening its strict marijuana laws
as my spirit animal once said "elections have consequences"  thank you VA voters for flipping the legislature

Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 11, 2020, 03:23:01 pm
you go VA Dems.....
Virginia moves toward marijuana decriminalization (https://www.whsv.com/content/news/Virginia-moves-toward-marijuana-decriminalization-567732241.html)

and
House Democrats vote to remove Virginia's photo ID requirement for voting

and
Va. House passes bill that would award electoral votes to popular vote winner
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: WALKonBack on February 11, 2020, 03:25:28 pm
Also, from what I am hearing, full legalization in 2021.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 11, 2020, 03:30:20 pm
Also, from what I am hearing, full legalization in 2021.
Yeah, that's what my industry's legislative rep is saying too. Stopgap year while they work out what legalization looks like.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 11, 2020, 03:31:15 pm
Also, from what I am hearing, full legalization in 2021.
Yeah, that's what my industry's rep is saying too.
hmmm...back in my day I used to just call him my dealer
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 11, 2020, 03:42:03 pm
Haha, no our lobbyist.

The great "Minimum Wage to $15" movement is hitting problems in the Senate. Probably still getting to $15 but only like $9.50 this summer and a 8-ish year increase schedule. One of the less aggressive minimum wage bills entered.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Bagley on March 02, 2020, 12:52:29 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1u8rIx65QgA

Welcome to Phoebe's world
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: hutch on April 10, 2020, 09:41:23 am
Geez...

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/10/health/smoking-weed-coronavirus-wellness/index.html
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 10, 2020, 09:49:59 am
makes sense as Covid-19 is a pulmonary disease

Sounds like the biggest issue is you are making it more difficult to diagnose if you need a test
and you are putting your lungs in worse shape, thus more likely to have issues if you do get infected

"It's common sense that anything you inhale that has been combusted and contains particles or chemicals can inflame your airways," he said. "So you're already making your body fight off foreign particles before it even has to fight off the infection.


Guess I should transition to edibles
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Yada on April 10, 2020, 10:02:28 am
Geez...

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/10/health/smoking-weed-coronavirus-wellness/index.html

Someone needs some sick edis.

#drewtang
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: WALKonBack on April 12, 2020, 07:10:55 pm
evidently, people who sell the stuff, are not sure sure what to do.  They have major surpluses, due to no one wants to go anyone to buy any.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 13, 2020, 07:57:42 am
evidently, people who sell the stuff, are not sure sure what to do.  They have major surpluses, due to no one wants to go anyone to buy any.
called supply and demand...especially since product is persible, shoud be good for the consumer
Likely if it doesn't move will be turned into concentrate, which I think has a much longer shelf life (but not really sure)
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: vansmack on April 13, 2020, 05:22:36 pm
There is a line everyday outside the two dispensaries I pass on my daily walk.  They both require a pre-order and appointment for pickup too....
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Yada on April 14, 2020, 11:06:12 am
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/4/13/21158103/virginia-marijuana-legalization-decriminalization
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 14, 2020, 11:15:50 am
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/4/13/21158103/virginia-marijuana-legalization-decriminalization

This is not full marijuana legalization. Under decriminalization, penalties carrying jail or prison time are removed, but lower-level penalties, like a fine, remain in place and sales remain illegal.

don't get me wrong...went from a $500 fine and possible imprisonment to The new law scraps criminal charges for simple possession of marijuana and creates a $25 civil penalty
so totally a step in the right direction...but they had the power and the motivation in 2020, why not seal the deal
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: hutch on May 23, 2020, 01:50:15 pm
Tough times

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/23/business/budget-cannabis-pandemic-value/index.html
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 23, 2020, 03:30:23 pm
Tough times

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/23/business/budget-cannabis-pandemic-value/index.html
I can’t believe you didn’t put the awesome headline on this
Smaller joints and less-potent buds: recession weed is here

Maybe not a good band name but a great name for the album in the shed in the woods

Pam Demic and the viral threats latest ep Recession Weed
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 01, 2020, 01:46:20 pm
Oh happy day in VA...

It's July 1 in the Commonwealth of Virginia, which means Marijuana is decriminalized!

Sure wish we could buy and grow, but I'm ok with this

Possessing small amounts of marijuana is still illegal in Virginia, but as of Wednesday the maximum penalty for people caught with an ounce or less the drug has been reduced to a $25 civil fine.


although we are not Washington state by any means
Other serious punishments surrounding the drug are unchanged. Growing the plant, possessing more than an ounce of it and distributing it to people (even as a gift) remain a felony, with potential sentences ranging from one to 40 years in prison depending on the circumstances and quantities involved

Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 02, 2020, 01:36:37 pm
(https://i.giphy.com/media/l2Sq1iPvgpUz7yIbC/giphy.webp)
https://rvamag.com/politics/activists-say-bill-ending-police-stops-for-marijuana-odor-is-small-step-for-marginalized-communities.html

The Virginia state Senate approved a bill Friday that would prohibit search and seizures based solely on the odor of marijuana.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: WALKonBack on September 02, 2020, 04:00:51 pm
If Virginia, elects a republican governor, all that goes away.

Why?  Because a Democrat thought of it.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 02, 2020, 04:26:22 pm
If Virginia, elects a republican governor, all that goes away.

Why?  Because a Democrat thought of it.
That's . . . not really how laws work. Maybe if the GOP takes back both parts of the legislature and the governorship.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 02, 2020, 04:29:36 pm
If Virginia, elects a republican governor, all that goes away.

Why?  Because a Democrat thought of it.
That's . . . not really how laws work. Maybe if the GOP takes back both parts of the legislature and the governorship.
well that's the only way it's going to happen
...or Trump starts martial law and takes over a state government (Look out Oregon)
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 02, 2020, 06:20:42 pm
(https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/118766180_10158394401951224_928896977195466158_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_ohc=jVr4SXckk7UAX9dQTqJ&_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.xx&oh=35498341e8bba2de06a24f6bbcb29d8d&oe=5F73F34D)
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 02, 2020, 07:13:03 pm
img width=450]https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/118766180_10158394401951224_928896977195466158_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_ohc=jVr4SXckk7UAX9dQTqJ&_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.xx&oh=35498341e8bba2de06a24f6bbcb29d8d&oe=5F73F34D[/img]
So I think there is something up with posting links to images in facebook or someone with a soup can has sweets number and is blocking him

(https://preview.redd.it/p1oei9lkh0k51.jpg?auto=webp&s=78c4d34469f9d825245ebfcd8d8716431cbbb749)
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 02, 2020, 07:33:13 pm
So I think there is something up with posting links to images in facebook or someone with a soup can has sweets number and is blocking him

thanks.  posting images from FB worked here for the longest time.  looks like zuck closed that loophole (soup can optional).
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 02, 2020, 11:52:33 pm
That’s what we call in the biz: a soup-hole
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: WALKonBack on September 05, 2020, 07:51:36 pm
House of Representatives to vote by end of month to federally legalize pot.  Most are sure it will pass, but not sure what Senate will do.

Crazy.  Donald Trump looking to have a real October surprise here, if he can claim weed was made legal under his watch.

Slam dunk, reelected.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 08, 2020, 06:46:48 am
my peeps!

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1325238214479781888
Fox News reporter in DC: "Not a lot of violence or any kind of real commotion here, primarily, perhaps, because of just how much marijuana is being smoked. The smell of that is quite pungent in the air right now."


Too good not to share
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmQ1GRFW8AA9YWk?format=jpg&name=medium)

Not sure if that's exactly what Michelle meant with, "when they go low, we go high."


Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: WALKonBack on November 08, 2020, 10:49:19 pm
Page 17 through 27, of David Wallace's Infinite Jest . . . is one of the greatest, diatribe exposes of weed usage, that I, have ever read.

Fuck.  Nailed it.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: WALKonBack on November 13, 2020, 05:53:01 pm
https://www.virginiamercury.com/2020/11/13/will-virginia-legalize-marijuana-in-2021-some-lawmakers-think-so/
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 13, 2020, 05:55:11 pm
https://www.virginiamercury.com/2020/11/13/will-virginia-legalize-marijuana-in-2021-some-lawmakers-think-so/

I'll take this over Trump's concession ...guess January is going to be an exciting month in 2021
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on November 14, 2020, 09:05:49 am
For the life of me I don't know why we aren't further along in legalizing weed. The feds continue to piss away shitloads of money by ignoring it. Meanwhile medical MJ cards are freaking expensive.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 16, 2020, 04:09:31 pm
“We are going to move forward with the legalization of marijuana in Virginia. I support this, and I’m committed to doing it the right way,” Northam said in a news briefing Monday. He said “the time is right” and pointed out that Virginia would be the first state in the South to legalize marijuana.


Ok this is some weird math
Based on records from other states, JLARC found that decriminalization could be expected to reduce marijuana arrests by about 60 percent and that legalization would reduce them by 84 percent.

So even legal there will be arrests 16% of the time?
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: hutch on November 16, 2020, 04:15:50 pm
What kind of practical difference does legalizing make?


You can’t drive while smoking a joint? Can you be in a moving car? Parked car? Walking down street?
Do cops usually enter your house to make sure you are not lighting up?
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 16, 2020, 04:22:41 pm
tell that to the close to 30k (mostly minorities) who have been arrested for possession in the state of Virginia  in 2018 and now have a record
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 16, 2020, 04:23:52 pm
Ok this is some weird math
Based on records from other states, JLARC found that decriminalization could be expected to reduce marijuana arrests by about 60 percent and that legalization would reduce them by 84 percent.

So even legal there will be arrests 16% of the time?

almost, but not quite:

say an area (a city, a state, whatever) currently experiences 100 weed-related arrests a year.  if they were to decriminalize, they could expect that number to fall to 40/year, and with legalization it would be 16/year.

wait, you can be arrested for weed in areas where it's legal?  indeed you can.  just like you can be arrested for alcohol even if it's legal: where you consume it, how old you have to be, did you cause an accident and adit to consumption, how much you have in your possession (only applies to weed), etc.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 16, 2020, 04:31:21 pm
thanks, smarty pants (both of you) now go spark a splif and give thanks to jah (just do it legally)
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: hutch on November 16, 2020, 05:10:08 pm
You didn’t answer my questions


Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 16, 2020, 05:19:59 pm
Quote
You can’t drive while smoking a joint? Can you be in a moving car? Parked car? Walking down street?
Do cops usually enter your house to make sure you are not lighting up?

1. Nope
2. Probably not.
3. Hmm...grey area
4. Not 100% sure on this.  But like Alcohol, you can't drink in public.

But people are getting arrested for possession and suspicion all the time
I'm sure people have been arested because the cop smelled it outside the house

Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 16, 2020, 05:39:01 pm
What kind of practical difference does legalizing make?

laws can be passed to allow retail locations to open, so you can get weed from a dispensary instead of a dealer.  cops can't arrest you for possession as long as you follow the rules (see below).  those seem like 2 pretty big differences vs. the current state of play.

You can’t drive while smoking a joint? Can you be in a moving car? Parked car? Walking down street?

i can only speak about WA, but: no, neither driver nor passengers can smoke and drive.  parked car OK as long as you're on private property, you can be fined for public consumption.  no walking down the street while blazing for the same reason.

alcohol is a good proxy for a lot of such questions: if you can't do it with booze, you probably can't do it with weed either.  not a perfect 1:1, though.

Do cops usually enter your house to make sure you are not lighting up?

state and local cops cannot enter your house if they only suspect you have a personal amount of weed, because it isn't a crime.  if they are in your house for some other valid reason and see that you have weed, they can do exactly nothing about it.  here's a trip: get arrested in WA, you're hauled down to jail, you appear in court, are given a date for your trial, you post bail, and on your way out of the courthouse the cops will give you your weed back. 

feds obviously take a different view, but i don't know of any DEA agents banging down doors to arrest weekend joint smokers.

folks on the right joke that cops will bust down your door to ensure that you ARE lighting up... ;D
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 16, 2020, 05:49:40 pm
folks on the right joke that cops will bust down your door to ensure that you ARE lighting up... ;D
I know a cop and he was like...my job would be so much easier if people just smoked weed instead of drinking
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: hutch on November 16, 2020, 05:53:00 pm
I am 100 percent behind legalization and decriminalizing weed




Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: hutch on November 16, 2020, 05:53:14 pm
And expungements
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 16, 2020, 05:56:24 pm
And expungements
my understanding this is on the table...I think some stuff happened this year too
But they won't fix lives ruined for a record that will make it so you can't get a job
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: hutch on November 16, 2020, 08:00:31 pm
I think I have gotten high once this year.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 16, 2020, 08:31:15 pm
I think I have gotten high once this year.
wasn’t even with me... if it wasn’t for COVID I’d be offended
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: hutch on November 16, 2020, 08:37:39 pm
Well it was with tim and Howard so you were invited!! Howard had a bunch he was taking back home

It was funny they gave me some cartridge pot cigarette and even after a whole explanation and story I still tried to light it!

Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 16, 2020, 08:55:19 pm
you were invited!!
the day I found out I'd torn my Achilles tendon.

was bummed to miss H

The story reminds me of your Lavender session
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: hutch on November 16, 2020, 08:58:09 pm
Oh yah that’s right


Man this year has sucked
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 16, 2020, 08:59:32 pm
Man this year has sucked
that's an understatement, not descriptive enough to fully encompass the lameness
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: WALKonBack on November 16, 2020, 09:15:02 pm
Did you read the part where it's gonna take 1 to 2 years for this to go into effect??

People are getting excited a little too prematurely here.   Just make it a 100% legal in January where people can start growing it and then figure out by the time summer comes along what kind of stores can sell it . . . it doesn't take 2 years to get that shit into effect.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 16, 2020, 09:58:27 pm
People are getting excited a little too prematurely here.   
you are not wrong, but definitely a buzz kill ;)

Will get voted on in Jan and will pass (like a joint at a Phish show) then the Gov will sign in June and probably won't go in effect until the fall (if past experience is any indicator)

I was discussing with my stoner friends that it is in 2022 when the first good outdoor harvest will be had


There are already a few medical dispensaries in VA  getting ready to open, but from what I can tell they haven't even sold anything yet
https://www.vanorml.org/dispensaries
(none in NOVA?...but DC is so close) Manassas, Richmond, Bristol (check out their delivery zones map (https://www.dharmacann.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Dharma-Delivery-Zones.pdf)) I think they are required to deliver to highland (boom siss)
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: WALKonBack on November 17, 2020, 01:29:56 am
Gurl . . . no matter what city slickers tell you, Manassas is part of NOVA.   What, you think it's a suburb of The Plains?
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 17, 2020, 03:34:43 am
Will get voted on in Jan and will pass (like a joint at a Phish show) then the Gov will sign in June and probably won't go in effect until the fall (if past experience is any indicator)

is that your best guess, or do you have reliable intel on that?  because having this go live in less than a year is aggressive.  there is a lot of work to do with regards to regulation, licensing, approvals, changes to laws... if VA can get it done in less than a year, more power to yaz, but if they do announce that timeline don't be surprised if it slips.

I was discussing with my stoner friends that it is in 2022 when the first good outdoor harvest will be had

is the right to grow included in the VA initiative? 

here in WA you can purchase and consume in private, but growing isn't allowed.  makes it seem less like state authorities have increased our freedom, and more like they just want another source of taxation...
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 17, 2020, 09:18:50 am
Well, now that you say it...grow was not mentioned and it's all speculation at this point.  But the Gov and the legislators are signaling what they are going to do

I agree ...my timeline is possibly too aggressive.  Considering the dispensaries were supposed to open in October and have yet to.

I hope grow is a part, seems silly not to
Growing is such a good thing for Jobs...there is a whole local food chain that starts if the state allows commercial grows.  If they get it from big out of state commercial providers, then a lot fewer jobs are created (and less tax revenue)

In DC the laws are fucked up: Can't buy, can't sell, Private Businesses can't allow smoking on premise, but private citizens can smoke on their premises, No smoking in public and definitely not on Federal land, can possess (to a limit) and can grow (but only 6 plants at a time)
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: grateful on November 17, 2020, 11:10:50 am
The timeline may be aggressive, but the police will *more than likely* be told to stand down prior to this being made official. 
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 17, 2020, 11:55:09 am
The timeline may be aggressive, but the police will *more than likely* be told to stand down prior to this being made official.
Pretty much already have, currently a $25 fine
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on November 17, 2020, 12:25:43 pm
The timeline may be aggressive, but the police will *more than likely* be told to stand down prior to this being made official.
Pretty much already have, currently a $25 fine
Payable without going to court imminently, and cops cannot use the smell of marijuana as a precursor to a stop or search.

Cannot speak for the rurals but marijuana enforcement in Richmond/Charlottesville is non-existent since decrim passed. Just absolutely open smoking of it in front of cops with zero said. POC experience may vary.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on November 17, 2020, 12:26:42 pm
Well, now that you say it...grow was not mentioned and it's all speculation at this point.  But the Gov and the legislators are signaling what they are going to do

I agree ...my timeline is possibly too aggressive.  Considering the dispensaries were supposed to open in October and have yet to.

I hope grow is a part, seems silly not to
Growing is such a good thing for Jobs...there is a whole local food chain that starts if the state allows commercial grows.  If they get it from big out of state commercial providers, then a lot fewer jobs are created (and less tax revenue)

In DC the laws are fucked up: Can't buy, can't sell, Private Businesses can't allow smoking on premise, but private citizens can smoke on their premises, No smoking in public and definitely not on Federal land, can possess (to a limit) and can grow (but only 6 plants at a time)
I believe one dispensary opened last week.

Northam is saying no state run marijuana sales and talking about small business so I think grow is part of that solution-set.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: WALKonBack on November 17, 2020, 02:49:44 pm
Isn't Virginia like the only state in the United States that has medical marijuana approved . . . but doesn't actually offer marijuana?

That should tell you how this is gonna go in Virginia.

"You're allowed to grow up to 6 plants, but your dog has to grow them."
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 17, 2020, 02:55:58 pm
Northam is saying no state run marijuana sales and talking about small business so I think grow is part of that solution-set.

self-grown = can't tax, so don't be surprised if growing isn't included...
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on November 17, 2020, 03:00:23 pm
Northam is saying no state run marijuana sales and talking about small business so I think grow is part of that solution-set.

self-grown = can't tax, so don't be surprised if growing isn't included...
Oh, that's a fair point.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on November 17, 2020, 03:02:11 pm
Isn't Virginia like the only state in the United States that has medical marijuana approved . . . but doesn't actually offer marijuana?

That should tell you how this is gonna go in Virginia.
This is kind of not a super fair analysis as they literally just expanded medical marijuana past epileptics like 4 months ago and have approved companies to provide marijuana, they just literally are delayed on opening for reasons that have nothing to do with "Virginia".
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 17, 2020, 03:17:10 pm
Northam is saying no state run marijuana sales and talking about small business so I think grow is part of that solution-set.

self-grown = can't tax, so don't be surprised if growing isn't included...
Oh, that's a fair point.
Couldn't they just make up something like a parking decal or 'grow Stamp'
that you have to pay $200 a year to grow under 10 plans on premise (much more for commercial growers)
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 17, 2020, 03:18:40 pm
Isn't Virginia like the only state in the United States that has medical marijuana approved . . . but doesn't actually offer marijuana?
This happened in a lot of states...I think in DC it was passed like 6 years ago for medical, but the first dispensary didn't open until 2017
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 17, 2020, 03:35:14 pm
Northam is saying no state run marijuana sales and talking about small business so I think grow is part of that solution-set.

self-grown = can't tax, so don't be surprised if growing isn't included...
Oh, that's a fair point.
Couldn't they just make up something like a parking decal or 'grow Stamp'
that you have to pay $200 a year to grow under 10 plans on premise (much more for commercial growers)

sure, they could set that up... but do you think it'll work?  what percentage of home-growers are going to self-register?  would this scheme generate enough revenue to pay for enforcement? (or, after enforcement, will there be any revenue left?)

i have no idea if the economics work out, but i'd be willing to bet the numbers don't work.  so it comes down to allow growing & lower taxes vs. no growing and more taxes.  guess which way politicians tend to lean...
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on November 17, 2020, 03:41:40 pm
I think you're way overthinking the impact of growing on the potential tax base generated by recreational THC. You (and other people) homebrew but the advent of homebrewing kits did not deleteriously impact "big alcohol". The percentage of weed smokers who want to grow their own weed vs buying at "Washington prices" is a miniscule fraction of weed smokers, I'd have to imagine. 
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: WALKonBack on November 17, 2020, 04:00:03 pm
What I meant about Virginia and medical marijuana, was I'm pretty sure it's the only state that has medical marijuana approved but it will never actually offer marijuana to patients. You have to buy some shitty oil or low content THC products. You will never be able to go into a Virginia medical marijuana dispensary that's either open now or open next month or open next year and actually buy real marijuana. I am pretty sure it's the only state that has that.

 Can you imagine going into a DC dispensary and the only thing they will sell you is a .03 THC pill to stick up your ass?
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on November 17, 2020, 04:08:39 pm
What I meant about Virginia and medical marijuana, was I'm pretty sure it's the only state that has medical marijuana approved but it will never actually offer marijuana to patients. You have to buy some shitty oil or low content THC products. You will never be able to go into a Virginia medical marijuana dispensary that's either open now or open next month or open next year and actually buy real marijuana. I am pretty sure it's the only state that has that.

 Can you imagine going into a DC dispensary and the only thing they will sell you is a .03 THC pill to stick up your ass?
Oh, yeah, that's true, its just vape cartridges and pills and suppositories. I strongly suspect that changes but you are correct, the actual plant form of it is not on the menu currently.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 17, 2020, 04:11:13 pm
I think you're way overthinking

in general, this is highly likely and in this case specifically, even more so.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on November 17, 2020, 04:13:38 pm
I think you're way overthinking

in general, this is highly likely and in this case specifically, even more so.
Has Lucifer's arugula got you paranoid and obsessive?
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on November 17, 2020, 04:19:44 pm
What I meant about Virginia and medical marijuana, was I'm pretty sure it's the only state that has medical marijuana approved but it will never actually offer marijuana to patients. You have to buy some shitty oil or low content THC products

That’s hilarious. Why even bother?
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 17, 2020, 04:33:28 pm
The percentage of weed smokers who want to grow their own weed vs buying at "Washington prices" is a miniscule fraction of weed smokers, I'd have to imagine.
Can confirm and that was an accurate analogy

Has Lucifer's arugula got you paranoid and obsessive?
Never heard that slang term prior...but it's a thing
https://lfb.org/mcconnell-about-to-flip-on-weed/
 Even though marijuana is legal in some form in 33 states, Lucifer’s arugula is still banned at the federal level.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 17, 2020, 04:39:05 pm
What I meant about Virginia and medical marijuana, was I'm pretty sure it's the only state that has medical marijuana approved but it will never actually offer marijuana to patients. You have to buy some shitty oil or low content THC products

That’s hilarious. Why even bother?
baby steps...although I ain't putting no pill up my but
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on November 17, 2020, 04:43:22 pm
Never heard that slang term prior...but it's a thing
aka Satan's Spinach. Beelzebub's Kale. The Morningstar's Mixed Greens. El Diablo's Kohlrabi. The Devil's Lettuce (if you're a real square).
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 17, 2020, 05:00:20 pm
I think you're way overthinking

in general, this is highly likely and in this case specifically, even more so.
Has Lucifer's arugula got you paranoid and obsessive?

in general, this is highly likely and in this case specifically, even more so.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 17, 2020, 07:01:00 pm
uh wait, is this real?  doooo0000oood...

US Congress expected to vote on decriminalizing marijuana at federal level in December (https://cbsaustin.com/news/connect-to-congress/us-congress-expected-to-vote-on-decriminalizing-marijuana-at-federal-level-in-december-legalize-weed-) (same story on Fox (https://fox17.com/news/local/us-congress-expected-to-vote-on-decriminalizing-marijuana-at-federal-level-in-december-legalize-weed-))
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 17, 2020, 07:36:10 pm
Kinda reminds me of the builders of the C&O canal, how it was started before railroads were even invented
The plan was to go from DC to Pittsburgh, but the Train beat it, by a lot
And would have taken the canal possibly another decade to get there
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: hutch on November 17, 2020, 07:39:59 pm



https://giphy.com/gifs/quentin-tarantino-pulp-fiction-uma-thurman-l2YWAT8lVoPdUqLLi
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 17, 2020, 09:13:40 pm


(https://media.giphy.com/media/l2YWAT8lVoPdUqLLi/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: hutch on November 17, 2020, 09:28:43 pm
Above my pay grade
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 17, 2020, 09:30:28 pm
Above my pay grade
wait, you are getting paid!
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on November 17, 2020, 09:54:02 pm
Above my pay grade
wait, you are getting paid!
Once you hit 20k posts, your monthly stipend from the club kicks in. Why do you think I did all those integers?
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: hutch on November 27, 2020, 04:11:15 pm
Interesting


https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/11/27/toke-lahoma-cannabis-market-oklahoma-red-state-weed-legalization-437782
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 27, 2020, 04:26:23 pm
Toke-lahoma, where the bong hits come sweeping down the plains
And the wavin' buds can sure smell sweet
When the vapes comes right behind the rain.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 27, 2020, 05:59:30 pm
didn't realize this was hitting the House next week
House set to consider marijuana decriminalization; Hoyer schedules MORE Act vote
https://norml.org/blog/2020/11/24/house-leadership-announces-vote-on-more-act-to-end-marijuana-prohibition-will-take-place-next-week/
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on November 28, 2020, 09:46:40 am
Me, neither.  That's progress.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 28, 2020, 05:25:19 pm
And the Richmond location finally opens
https://wtop.com/virginia/2020/11/virginias-2nd-medical-cannabis-processor-opens-in-richmond/
Bend over and insert
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 01, 2020, 08:45:23 am
The gov releases a 482 page report on the plans for recreational adult use AND cultivation

https://www.governor.virginia.gov/media/governorvirginiagov/governor-of-virginia/pdf/Final-Report-on-Marijuana-Legalization-11.30.20.pdf

( anyone want to summarize this and pull out the juicy bits?)


Argentine government to allow home cultivation
https://norml.org/news/2020/11/19/argentina-presidential-decree-permits-for-licensed-home-cultivation-of-medical-cannabis/

And the Phoenix has risen as AZ legalized it this week
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 01, 2020, 08:56:00 am
RTD did a good write up
https://richmond.com/news/state-and-regional/govt-and-politics/northam-administration-work-group-outlines-path-toward-marijuana-legalization/article_6bee593c-649c-5311-9b1a-b84a84caa71e.html

Two years to legalization, five years to established industry


Nice to see they  included representatives from the Virginia chapter of the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws in the creation of this
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on December 04, 2020, 05:45:06 pm
U.S. House APPROVES #MOREAct legislation on Federal Decriminalization of #Marijuana, 228-164.

Goes now to the U.S. Senate.
...where it goes to die ;(



I hate when Matt does things I like...
Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.), the only House Republican to co-sponsor the bill, said in a speech: "If we were measuring the success of the war on drugs … drugs have won."

Makes me think of one of my favorite Assylum Street Spakners song We're winning the war on drugs (https://youtu.be/rz1r20YnvFI)
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 13, 2021, 10:49:48 am
The only time someone should go to jail for this...

https://twitter.com/davenewworld_2/status/1349363552281362432
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Yada on January 13, 2021, 11:32:21 am
The only time someone should go to jail for this...

https://twitter.com/davenewworld_2/status/1349363552281362432

What's the deal with minorities being involved with this raid? And even worse, what's the deal with the one completely illegal immigrant? These guys are dumber than the white folk doing the raiding.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 13, 2021, 11:40:20 am
These guys are dumber than the white folk doing the raiding.
and that's a very low bar
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 17, 2021, 06:57:59 pm
Get A Free Bag Of Marijuana With Your Covid-19 Vaccine (https://www.forbes.com/sites/ajherrington/2021/01/14/get-a-free-bag-of-marijuana-with-your-covid-19-vaccine/)
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on January 17, 2021, 07:27:19 pm
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/12/books/review/drug-use-for-grown-ups-carl-l-hart.html?searchResultPosition=1

This goes way beyond weeeed but I think I’m gonna pick up his book.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 05, 2021, 01:38:57 pm
Martin Austermuhle@maustermuhle
There’s a not insignificant chance that the entire Washington region will have legal recreational weed sales within the next year or so. Virginia passing a bill, Maryland has one in play, D.C. just needs Congress to lift prohibition to pass its own bill

https://dcist.com/story/21/02/05/virginia-house-votes-to-legalize-marijuana/
https://www.marijuanamoment.net/maryland-marijuana-legalization-bill-sponsored-by-senate-president-and-other-top-lawmakers/


Somewhat related
Sen. Cory Booker (D-NJ) joked about how his girlfriend, actress Rosario Dawson, was more excited to vote for New Jersey’s marijuana legalization referendum than to support his reelection on the same ballot.

Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 26, 2021, 01:51:23 pm
Looking like no VA commercial sales until 2024!  (I really don't understand this logic, you can have it, you can use it, but you can't buy or sell it or even grow it...how do they expect you to get it?)
The House, whose members worried that repealing criminal penalties before legal sales are permitted would encourage the black market, appear to have won the debate, with Senate negotiators agreeing to maintain existing criminal penalties until 2024, according to the sources.
We’ll know more Saturday some are concerned it might not pass at all https://www.marijuanamoment.net/disagreements-threaten-virginia-marijuana-legalization-deal-as-deadline-approaches/

I get it, they want to make sure minors have a strong deterrent
What is the fine if you get caught drinking underage?  it's not $250
increasing the civil penalty for possession from $25 to $250 for people ages 18 to 20. Minors would face a $200 civil penalty for a first offense.



Edit...yikes
Anyone under the age of 21 who is convicted of possession of alcohol in Virginia (regardless if they are a resident of the state), can be convicted of a Class 1 misdemeanor, which can carry up to a year in jail, up to a $2,500 fine, and a one year driver's license suspension.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: WALKonBack on February 26, 2021, 03:33:58 pm
Virginia.  That's all that needs to be said.  Now bend over and take your medical marijuana suppository, which has barely any THC in it.

I'm sure when you are allowed to buy it, you will only be allowed to purchase half a joint per day, but only on Saturdays.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: WALKonBack on February 27, 2021, 10:32:03 pm
Weed em, and reap.  A step.  A long, stretched out step.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/02/27/virginia-legalizes-marijuana-471840
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 28, 2021, 08:20:54 am
Zero republican support
Wait until 2024
Zero on grow
I know I should be happy, but feeling like Charlie brown going to kick the football
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: WALKonBack on February 28, 2021, 10:24:14 am
It's almost as if . . . Virginia. 

How many places do you actually think they will set up to sell it in 2024 . . . 2 or 3 for the entire state?   How many rural area Republican counties will be allowed to say we don't want that in our backyard, as they head to the ABC store for the 3rd time that week?   How much do you think they are going to charge a person to get a licence to be able to grow it?  How soon will guns be mixed up with this somehow, and be repealed by a republican governor the next time Virginia has one?  Virginia Republicans will destroy anything created by a Democrat.

Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on February 28, 2021, 11:53:43 am
Thanks, VA. Hopefully Maryland quickly follows.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 28, 2021, 12:48:34 pm
The most bewildering thing about this marijuana bill is despite knowing because of the census we will likely elect a new state legislature each of the next three years, instead of making this go into effect now-ish, they specifically subject it to three more potential votes before it rolls out.

This is one of those things Dems never get. If you make marijuana legal or give people $15 min wage, the other part is never EVER going to actually walk that back no matter how much they posture. Taking away things from people who are already getting it is suicidal.

As with every time Dems get power, we act like we can never foresee a time we might not have it and lolligag on all of our agenda in the name of bipartisanship — the Obama doctrine.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 28, 2021, 07:30:23 pm
As with every time Dems get power, we act like we can never foresee a time we might not have it and lolligag on all of our agenda in the name of bipartisanship — the Obama doctrine.
can confirm :(

I really thought there was some GOP support for this, but not a single GOP vote
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: hutch on February 28, 2021, 08:18:32 pm
Biden and democrats have been fairly assertive at the federal level

Definitely more than anyone had reason to expect

Anyone expecting Biden to instantly repeal the filibuster and govern like in a parliamentary system is kidding themselves although we may eventually get there

As far as Virginia I think this has been the most liberal government we have had in the history of the commonwealth
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: hutch on March 01, 2021, 01:21:07 am
I mean even reparations is on the table...

https://www.axios.com/biden-cedric-richmond-reparations-f4984eab-18fd-4f4b-ad14-4cd10c54a18a.html


You got proposals to tackle childhood poverty in a substantial way

We are rejoining just about any organization that will take us back.

We are out of the Yemen business

A $1.9 trillion stimulus seems close to being on the way

Vaccines are being dispensed by the millions daily... deaths from covid have come down dramatically

I could go on and on and on

The only thing he has refused to do is tackle the issue of college loan debt

The criticism on MBS is unfair. The Saudi - US relationship is at this point symbiotic and to expect him to just cut off MBS at the knees is fairly unrealistic. Do people realize the huge investments the Saudis have in the US?!?  And the oil price still matters! $4/gallon gas wouldn’t be great for the economy..About all we can do in the Middle East is a gradual realignment away from the Saudis and Israel...a rebalance...this was what Obama attempted and of course Trump dramatically reversed but we have to keep trying.

As far as MBS specifically all Biden can do is talk to King Salman and say what MBS did is way out of line and if anything like it happens again there is going to be trouble



I think it’s been a good 40 days! And all this with the impeachment
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 01, 2021, 09:59:32 am
dude...stop bogarting the thread...this is the weed thread
(https://media.giphy.com/media/JRPtASBa2IjyAhIBob/giphy.gif)

I was talking about the VA Congress.  Jules is right in that they are acting like they will hold power for a generation.  the Dems are holding on to the slimmest of margins and they are slow rolling things not to offend the GQP.
I really thought that Mary Jane had support across both parties, but they are doubling down on obstruction (not effective in this session, but shows that they are not willing to meet in the middle on anything)
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: WALKonBack on March 01, 2021, 10:03:20 am
dude...stop bogarting the thread...this is the weed thread
(https://media.giphy.com/media/JRPtASBa2IjyAhIBob/giphy.gif)

Fucking, Thank, You.  Puff puff pass, those thoughts.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: hutch on March 01, 2021, 01:40:22 pm
Sorry didn’t realize you had to be high to post in this thread


That explains A LOT!
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 02, 2021, 09:52:23 am
Denver is moving ahead on a trio of proposals that would allow weed bars and tour buses, legalize cannabis delivery and open applications for new retail and cultivation licenses for the first time since 2016.

can someone answer this question, unless it's a medical weed dispensary, are there any commercial locations where people can recreationaly smoke yet?
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on March 02, 2021, 10:55:04 am
When I was last in Denver I couldn’t leave the hotel without smelling weed. Why bother  with commercial spots?
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 02, 2021, 11:58:14 am
When I was last in Denver I couldn’t leave the hotel without smelling weed. Why bother  with commercial spots?
I hear ya, but I think there should be options to smoke indoors
Technically it's not legal to just smoke in public and I'm sure parents/schools/Mormons would rather not have the only place be in the public square
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 02, 2021, 12:55:26 pm
When I was last in Denver I couldn’t leave the hotel without smelling weed. Why bother  with commercial spots?
I hear ya, but I think there should be options to smoke indoors
Technically it's not legal to just smoke in public and I'm sure parents/schools/Mormons would rather not have the only place be in the public square

pretty sure CO laws are similar to those here in WA: you essentially need to smoke in private.  currently there are no "weed bars" or other commercial establishments where you can light up, and you can be fined for blazing in public.  that leaves your couch and your backyard as viable locations (and i believe your neighbors can complain about the smell in certain situations...)
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: WALKonBack on March 08, 2021, 03:32:59 pm
https://phys.org/news/2021-03-insatiable-demand-cannabis-giant-carbon.amp

Interesting article on the downside to legalize it on a mass scale.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: WALKonBack on March 11, 2021, 11:38:17 pm
Mexico.  Wow.  Didn't see that coming, or ever happening.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: shemptiness on March 18, 2021, 03:42:07 pm
(https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/15910056/2021/03/20210318_125540.jpg?resize=620,465)

https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2021/03/18/marijuana-legalization-maryland-general-assembly-giant-inflatable-joint/
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: challenged on March 18, 2021, 11:23:30 pm
 https://www.thedailybeast.com/biden-white-house-sandbags-staffers-sidelines-dozens-for-pot-use?via=twitter_page            (https://www.thedailybeast.com/biden-white-house-sandbags-staffers-sidelines-dozens-for-pot-use?via=twitter_page)
(https://img.thedailybeast.com/image/upload/c_crop,d_placeholder_euli9k,h_1688,w_3000,x_0,y_0/dpr_1.5/c_limit,w_908/fl_lossy,q_auto/v1616114232/210319-bixby-bidenWH-marijuana-tease_valbwr)
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 19, 2021, 08:04:03 am
dang, I had heard this Several staffers were informally told by transition officials that some past marijuana use would be overlooked,

but this is what actually happened :(
only to be told later that they were being asked to resign.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: grateful on March 19, 2021, 09:43:53 am
Regardless of legal changes at the state level, its still a matter of federal personnel policy.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on March 20, 2021, 11:42:47 am
My company makes that painfully clear on the reg. Not sure why they feel they have to.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on March 25, 2021, 11:02:29 am
New York is the next to fall in line. Up to 6 plants at home, too.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 25, 2021, 11:16:11 am
I'm really bitter about how VA delt with this
Home grow is really the smart way to do this.   cuts out all the crime issues, although no way to tax it
I think you should have to get a grow license, yes most won't, but there are a lot of people who would
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: hutch on March 25, 2021, 11:43:59 am
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-0gpr-cdXZE
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 25, 2021, 12:09:47 pm
So is it time to start a thread where someone says a word and hutch finds the appropriate Neil song to go with that
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: hutch on March 25, 2021, 12:19:50 pm
I am not well versed enough to do that!


Neil has hundreds of songs I haven’t heard!


But Homegrown is well known...
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: grateful on March 25, 2021, 12:34:22 pm
I am not well versed enough to do that!


Neil has hundreds of songs I haven’t heard!


But Homegrown is well known...

The Mountain Goats have a flowchart for exactly this purpose:

https://www.etsy.com/listing/486604090/i-only-listen-to-the-mountain-goats
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: WALKonBack on March 26, 2021, 08:12:03 pm
I am going to go completely off topic here in this thread even though the topic of Neil Young was being talked about and this is about Neil Young.

When Neil Young so slyly responded back to a heckler at a live show who yelled "it all sounds the same" . . . with "it's all the same song," everything I knew about Neil Young and so many other bands, changed.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: hutch on March 31, 2021, 09:53:37 am
For Roll another number-Hatch

https://dcist.com/story/21/03/31/northam-wants-weed-legal-by-july-in-virginia/
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 31, 2021, 11:16:51 am
yeah been hearing about this...very excited
Northam proposed legalizing simple possession of up to one ounce of marijuana by July 1, 2021, instead of waiting until July 1, 2024

I like the focus on expungement of past crimes automatically (I think some states had this really complicated process that you had to apply for)

no grow, but full legalization would make Peter Tosh proud

But this is not a done deal...and I think today is the deadline
Is it as simple as the swipe of the Gov's pen?
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on March 31, 2021, 11:41:51 am
no grow, but full legalization would make Peter Tosh proud

But this is not a done deal...and I think today is the deadline
Is it as simple as the swipe of the Gov's pen?
Uh, they're calling for up to four plants per person but they must be "out of sight" (i.e. inside, restricting the ability of poor people to grow).

The deadline is NOT today. The House of Delegates and Senate can act on these Governor-proposed amendments on 4/7 (the next day they are in session). The proposed amendments are basically what the State Senate passed already and this will again. The HoD has indicated they have the votes to do this as well.

My neighbor is a certain State Senator from Alexandria who smokes out with my wife whenever he's at his Richmond residence and he's been the leading champion of this in the Senate. You all can figure out who that is from the context clues.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: hutch on March 31, 2021, 11:46:03 am
Good stuff today J..


Everyone else up your game
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Yada on March 31, 2021, 12:58:30 pm
no grow, but full legalization would make Peter Tosh proud

But this is not a done deal...and I think today is the deadline
Is it as simple as the swipe of the Gov's pen?
Uh, they're calling for up to four plants per person but they must be "out of sight" (i.e. inside, restricting the ability of poor people to grow).

The deadline is NOT today. The House of Delegates and Senate can act on these Governor-proposed amendments on 4/7 (the next day they are in session). The proposed amendments are basically what the State Senate passed already and this will again. The HoD has indicated they have the votes to do this as well.

My neighbor is a certain State Senator from Alexandria who smokes out with my wife whenever he's at his Richmond residence and he's been the leading champion of this in the Senate. You all can figure out who that is from the context clues.

Sounds like they should look into TAKOMA WELLNESS, DCs family-owned and operated medical dispensary!
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on March 31, 2021, 01:01:40 pm
no grow, but full legalization would make Peter Tosh proud

But this is not a done deal...and I think today is the deadline
Is it as simple as the swipe of the Gov's pen?
Uh, they're calling for up to four plants per person but they must be "out of sight" (i.e. inside, restricting the ability of poor people to grow).

The deadline is NOT today. The House of Delegates and Senate can act on these Governor-proposed amendments on 4/7 (the next day they are in session). The proposed amendments are basically what the State Senate passed already and this will again. The HoD has indicated they have the votes to do this as well.

My neighbor is a certain State Senator from Alexandria who smokes out with my wife whenever he's at his Richmond residence and he's been the leading champion of this in the Senate. You all can figure out who that is from the context clues.

Sounds like they should look into TAKOMA WELLNESS, DCs family-owned and operated medical dispensary!
Great callback.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 31, 2021, 02:18:10 pm
no grow, but full legalization would make Peter Tosh proud

But this is not a done deal...and I think today is the deadline
Is it as simple as the swipe of the Gov's pen?
Uh, they're calling for up to four plants per person but they must be "out of sight" (i.e. inside, restricting the ability of poor people to grow).

The deadline is NOT today. The House of Delegates and Senate can act on these Governor-proposed amendments on 4/7 (the next day they are in session). The proposed amendments are basically what the State Senate passed already and this will again. The HoD has indicated they have the votes to do this as well.

My neighbor is a certain State Senator from Alexandria who smokes out with my wife whenever he's at his Richmond residence and he's been the leading champion of this in the Senate. You all can figure out who that is from the context clues.
Look at the big brain on brad!

Good deets, had heard talk of grow in 2024, didn't know it was also slotted for the Gov's Amendments!
I might have to join his Alexandria campaign team...you know the research part
Let me know if your wife comes up for some campaign sessions


I have yet to get the ref to TAKOMA WELLNESS
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on March 31, 2021, 06:53:26 pm
I have yet to get the ref to TAKOMA WELLNESS
As part of Julian’s America’s corporate synergy initiative, I posted some sponsored content from Takoma Wellness, DCs family-owned and operated medical dispensary in relevant discussions awhile back.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 31, 2021, 09:50:53 pm
corporate synergy initiative
ahh, I see you are a corporate communist too!
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 02, 2021, 01:44:59 pm
https://www.marijuanamoment.net/colorado-is-auctioning-marijuana-themed-license-plates-to-raise-money-for-people-with-disabilities/
(https://scontent-iad3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-0/s552x414/167572683_794131491542305_991836924153824527_n.jpg?_nc_cat=106&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_ohc=OLUZfhepqdoAX-OyMa-&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-2.xx&tp=7&oh=993a606e77e4e580e10327d172844526&oe=608C36FA)
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 05, 2021, 12:34:47 pm
Marijuana is fully legal here though!! I knew it passed, but didn't realize it recreational was now sold everywhere. It's no Takoma Wellness, but can't complain.
In Maryland?
I think it's still medical with no recreational use/possession?

Despite a surge in cannabis legalization efforts across the country, Maryland has failed to pass adult-use cannabis reforms through the legislative process this year. The two bills in Maryland’s House that would have legalized adult-use cannabis failed to pass by their legislative deadlines
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Yada on April 05, 2021, 12:42:10 pm
Marijuana is fully legal here though!! I knew it passed, but didn't realize it recreational was now sold everywhere. It's no Takoma Wellness, but can't complain.
In Maryland?
I think it's still medical with no recreational use/possession?

Despite a surge in cannabis legalization efforts across the country, Maryland has failed to pass adult-use cannabis reforms through the legislative process this year. The two bills in Maryland’s House that would have legalized adult-use cannabis failed to pass by their legislative deadlines


You must've missed the part that I'm in arizona.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 05, 2021, 12:55:41 pm
The House of Delegates and Senate can act on these Governor-proposed amendments on 4/7
So haven't heard a peep about this yet, when do expect news to break
bong is loaded, but will it be legal on 7/1
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on April 05, 2021, 06:28:48 pm
The House of Delegates and Senate can act on these Governor-proposed amendments on 4/7
So haven't heard a peep about this yet, when do expect news to break
bong is loaded, but will it be legal on 7/1
Well, we are still two days from April 7th which is when they reconvene and the first day they could vote on these amendments so ...
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 05, 2021, 08:38:51 pm
The House of Delegates and Senate can act on these Governor-proposed amendments on 4/7
So haven't heard a peep about this yet, when do expect news to break
bong is loaded, but will it be legal on 7/1
Well, we are still two days from April 7th which is when they reconvene and the first day they could vote on these amendments so ...
Sometimes there is chatter... is the gop planning to show zero support
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on April 06, 2021, 07:25:01 am
The House of Delegates and Senate can act on these Governor-proposed amendments on 4/7
So haven't heard a peep about this yet, when do expect news to break
bong is loaded, but will it be legal on 7/1
Well, we are still two days from April 7th which is when they reconvene and the first day they could vote on these amendments so ...
Sometimes there is chatter... is the gop planning to show zero support
The chatter is positive. They will get zero/one gop vote but the house (which is basically being asked to back the senates version of this) supposedly “has the votes.” I’d put odds at 85-90%.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on April 06, 2021, 08:55:47 am
Lake Superior State University offers Cannabis scholarship (https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2021/04/05/lake-superior-state-cannabis-chemistry-scholarship/7094954002/)
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on April 07, 2021, 08:47:16 am
The House of Delegates and Senate can act on these Governor-proposed amendments on 4/7
So haven't heard a peep about this yet, when do expect news to break
bong is loaded, but will it be legal on 7/1
Well, we are still two days from April 7th which is when they reconvene and the first day they could vote on these amendments so ...
Sometimes there is chatter... is the gop planning to show zero support
The chatter is positive. They will get zero/one gop vote but the house (which is basically being asked to back the senates version of this) supposedly “has the votes.” I’d put odds at 85-90%.
OK, today is going to be interesting. This is legitimately imperiled. Dems hold Senate 21-19 and even though the amendments much more closely mimic what they passed earlier in the year, there are two reported no votes from the Dems: Joe Morrissey (Richmond) and Chap Petersen (Fairfax). Petersen seems legitimately opposed to legalization of weed. Morrissey is grandstanding for more sweeping criminal justice reform and removal of mandatory minimum sentences (something that cannot be addressed in an amendment session). Interesting to see where Morrissey goes.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 07, 2021, 09:00:49 am
(https://www.redmolotov.com/image/cache/catalog/designslarge/i/ignore-morrissey-tshirt_2_blacktshirt-570x570.jpg)
was looking for a Fuck morrissey and this was all I could find
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on April 07, 2021, 10:20:04 am
Apparently two GOP Senators are going to vote for this so it's likely passing 21-19 even if Morrissey goes through with his protest vote.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 07, 2021, 10:49:01 am
waiting with my bong in hand and the lighter set to kill
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on April 07, 2021, 04:04:40 pm
House passed this pretty easily, like 53-44-2. Senate discussing now but they have the votes supposedly. Morrissey agreed to flip and even with no GOP, it'd be 20-20 with Fairfax casting a tiebreaker (and supposedly 2 GOP people will vote Yea).

Likely official in about an hour.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 07, 2021, 04:09:21 pm
The Virginia House Delegates just voted to make marijuana legal on July 1st in Virginia.

ack waiting on the senate :(
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on April 07, 2021, 04:36:19 pm
Senate went 20-20 with Fairfax passing it on tiebreaker. Morrissey could've fucked this all up. Love to be a fly on the wall to understand how they whipped him back in line.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 07, 2021, 04:40:06 pm
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/GiganticBlackBunny-small.gif)

grow too!
Marijuana will become legal in Virginia on July 1.

House and Senate have both now voted in favor of amendments Gov. Ralph Northam sent down allowing adults 21 and older to posses up to an ounce and home cultivation of up to four plants.

Retail sales still won't begin until 2024
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: hutch on April 07, 2021, 04:46:56 pm
Hallelujah praise Jesus
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: WALKonBack on April 20, 2021, 09:47:45 am
Happy "you used to be a derelict, a loser, an addict, a creep, a low life, should be in jail . . . but now everyone can make bank off of you, so it's now ok" Day!

Go on, roll a blunt with 50 dollars worth of weed, that you paid 90 for after taxes.


Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 20, 2021, 10:50:04 am
^ VERY on-brand
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Yada on April 20, 2021, 11:30:07 am
https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/17/business/jaleel-white-urkel-cannabis-trnd/index.html
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: WALKonBack on April 20, 2021, 12:18:54 pm
^ VERY on-brand

My anger, needs help, I know. 
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Yada on April 20, 2021, 01:08:37 pm
https://www.instagram.com/p/CN5UCDsJBCg/?igshid=fmw9akq0hl0m
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 20, 2021, 02:56:48 pm
@SHEsus__Christ

They always get it wrong. The Bible says being gay is fine, as long as you're high.

"A man who lays with another man should be stoned."
- Leviticus 20:13
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 20, 2021, 03:07:07 pm
wow 91%....I am still a little shocked that the GQP, especially in VA can't see the writing on the wall

https://www.marijuanamoment.net/nine-in-ten-americans-support-legalizing-marijuana-for-recreational-or-medical-use-new-pew-poll-finds/
A whopping 91 percent of Americans believe that marijuana prohibition should end and cannabis should be legal for either medical or recreational purposes, according to a new Pew Research Center poll released on Friday.

 Well I guess here is why...bunch of old white dudes
“While both Republicans and Democrats differ greatly on whether marijuana should be legal for medical and recreational use, there are also age divides within each party,” Pew said. “A 63% majority of Republicans ages 18 to 29 favor making marijuana legal for recreational and medical use, compared with 53% of those ages 30 to 49 and 48% of those 50 to 64. However, only about a quarter of Republicans 65 and older (27%) say marijuana should be legal for both.”



 more than 40% of the country’s population now lives in a state where cannabis is legal for those over 21,
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 20, 2021, 03:20:20 pm
apparently this is a real Virginia police dept
Pretty funny stuff...

Pulaski County Sheriff's Office
9h  ·
Happy 420 Day to all you Blazers, Smokers, Jokers, and Midnight Tokers! Marijuana laws in Virginia can be described as the old saying goes, “the times, they are a changing,” and starting July 1st, 2021, much will be changed. Please please please do your own research concerning the use, possession, and cultivation of the devil’s lettuce. And by research, I don’t mean asking your uncle Ricky after he has just tapped out a 3 foot tower bong and he is covered in Doritos dust. That would be like going to a gentleman’s club and believing every dancer that says you are their favorite! If you choose to partake in the happy herb, it is your responsibility to know and understand all the laws and the specific dates as they pertain to it.
Now I’m not telling anyone to do this, but if you decide to fire up a big ol’ fattie once the magical date gets here, PCSO would like you to please keep a few things in mind:
    •    Driving impaired is driving impaired. It doesn’t matter if you are under the influence of firewater or Juanita’s wonders, you can not cruise around in an old Volkswagen van laying down a smoke screen with fifty eleven of your friends inside trying to see who can laugh the longest at the shopping cart that somebody put big googley eyes on.
    •    Public use of the green goblin is still a no go. Please don’t think it’s a good idea to torch up a handful of giggle weed in the middle of Sunday School, because it’s not. Even if public consumption wasn’t against the law, you would still need to worry about the church lady who carries a big wooden spoon in her pocketbook for occasions such as this.
    •    Please remember that the law for cultivation of puffer plants allows 4 PLANTS PER HOUSEHOLD. You can’t pretend you’re living up the holler down Copperhead Road and have the back 40 acres sprouting stalks like you’re Johnny Appleseed.
    •     Please be sure to know exactly where your property lines are if you decide to plant your very own Aunt Mary seeds. If you have to ask why this is essential..........please don’t grow your own.
    •    Also, and this is very important, be careful as to which product you consume, because not everyone has your best interest at heart. There are many different types of marijuana out there and it can be laced with everything from methamphetamine to angel dust, and these my friends, can and will kill you. Please know the signs of what an overdose looks like and call 911 immediately if someone needs help.
And before anyone gets all fired up thinking that PCSO is promoting the use of the righteous bush, we ain’t. We’re just trying our best to keep our community safe and informed. If a person decides to wake and bake legally while they are blasting Hitch a Ride by Boston without disturbing their neighbors, that’s like totally their choice dude. We just want everyone to be safe and go home to their families and dogs. And unicorns. And cats. And fish. And lizards. And stamp collections. And Dale Earnhardt memorabilia.
Call your mom.
🇺🇸🇺🇸🐿🚓🍩🥓☕️🖤💙🖤🇺🇸
DwtC ✌🏻
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 20, 2021, 07:54:02 pm
If a person decides to wake and bake legally while they are blasting Hitch a Ride by Boston without disturbing their neighbors, that’s like totally their choice dude.

gawd this was a funny post, i hope it's real.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 21, 2021, 07:42:58 pm
did he intentionally NOT do this on 4/20
really seemed weird to hold a presser on 4/21

Gov. Northam signs bill legalizing marijuana
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 22, 2021, 04:19:32 pm
Fun fact - my first show at Wolf Trap was forum favorite Widespread Panic.

Ticket and weed were all free so don’t judge. Not normally my thing ( the band, that is).

my weed-and-widespread story: saw them at the orpheum in boston in either 2003 or 2004.  i had never heard of them so i had no idea what i was in for, but my buddies were gung-ho about them and promised me a good time.  before the show we were hanging out in the park in front of the theater (northeast corner of boston commons) and a buddy whips out a joint and lights it up.  we were several beers in at this point so despite the rather public location we were in, we all nervously said "AWRITE!!!" to each other.  as the J was being passed around, a big burly dude in no-nonsense shades flashes a badge at us, nabs the joint from whoever was holding it and loudly proclaims "WELL WELL WELL, WHAT DO WE HAVE HERE GENTLEMEN?!?".  he takes a sniff of the burning weed, mumbles "yeah thought so" and gives us the biggest "you're all so fucked" look ever... while we're all having heart attacks and visions of our futures going down the drain, dude quickly takes three huge hits, laughs manically, gives the joint back and runs in the direction of the orpheum yelling "see ya inside!!!".  as soon as our heart rates fell below 140 we all keeled over laughing.  the show was ok.  haven't seen WSP since.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: WALKonBack on April 22, 2021, 04:39:10 pm
That story, is why this thread exists. 
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 22, 2021, 04:58:24 pm
that was an awesome tale!
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 01, 2021, 11:01:36 pm
amazon no longer drug testing for weed (and Walmart too)
https://www.axios.com/amazon-backs-federal-marijuana-legalization-bill-changes-drug-testing-policy-7c8aa857-d631-4a36-a4d8-785059c1ea6e.html

Amazon's worldwide consumer CEO Dave Clark announced in a blog post Tuesday that the company has endorsed a federal bill to legalize marijuana and will no longer screen certain workers for the drug.

Why it matters: Amazon is the second-largest private employer in the U.S. behind Walmart. Its drug policy change use may nudge other employers into adopting similar policies.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on June 02, 2021, 08:04:07 am
Fun fact - my first show at Wolf Trap was forum favorite Widespread Panic.

Ticket and weed were all free so don’t judge. Not normally my thing ( the band, that is).

my weed-and-widespread story: saw them at the orpheum in boston in either 2003 or 2004.  i had never heard of them so i had no idea what i was in for, but my buddies were gung-ho about them and promised me a good time.  before the show we were hanging out in the park in front of the theater (northeast corner of boston commons) and a buddy whips out a joint and lights it up.  we were several beers in at this point so despite the rather public location we were in, we all nervously said "AWRITE!!!" to each other.  as the J was being passed around, a big burly dude in no-nonsense shades flashes a badge at us, nabs the joint from whoever was holding it and loudly proclaims "WELL WELL WELL, WHAT DO WE HAVE HERE GENTLEMEN?!?".  he takes a sniff of the burning weed, mumbles "yeah thought so" and gives us the biggest "you're all so fucked" look ever... while we're all having heart attacks and visions of our futures going down the drain, dude quickly takes three huge hits, laughs manically, gives the joint back and runs in the direction of the orpheum yelling "see ya inside!!!".  as soon as our heart rates fell below 140 we all keeled over laughing.  the show was ok.  haven't seen WSP since.
Should've asked to speak to his manager.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: WALKonBack on June 17, 2021, 06:18:14 pm
I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure I heard 2 more medical dispensaries are coming to Fairfax and Sterling.  And also I believe I heard that medical dispensaries will be able to sell flower by October in Virginia.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on June 17, 2021, 06:27:24 pm
I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure I heard 2 more medical dispensaries are coming to Fairfax and Sterling.  And also I believe I heard that medical dispensaries will be able to sell flower by October in Virginia.
Supposedly the Richmond one will be first to market with flower.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: WALKonBack on June 17, 2021, 06:29:14 pm
Secretly, I hate the fact that weed is now referred to as flower. I prefer, Cheeba.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 17, 2021, 07:33:12 pm
I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure I heard 2 more medical dispensaries are coming to Fairfax and Sterling.  And also I believe I heard that medical dispensaries will be able to sell flower by October in Virginia.
Supposedly the Richmond one will be first to market with flower.
wait, WHAT!
this should have gone in the good news thread
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on June 17, 2021, 07:34:58 pm
I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure I heard 2 more medical dispensaries are coming to Fairfax and Sterling.  And also I believe I heard that medical dispensaries will be able to sell flower by October in Virginia.
Supposedly the Richmond one will be first to market with flower.
wait, WHAT!
this should have gone in the good news thread
I will ask my wife for more info around this and report back.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 17, 2021, 07:45:45 pm
why not in ultra blue Arlington?

3 million people live in northern VA and all we get is Manasshole as a location!



this is what I saw in CA when medical was legit
bunch of back of the city paper ads for pot docs
https://www.cannabisrxhealth.com/

I do find this kind of annoying, having to pay a 'dr' then pay for an annual card to then buy at premium pricing

It's legal recreational July 1  (friend of mine is thinking hosting an annual pot party July 1 trying to make it the new stoner holiday in VA)
lets get with the program and not make people have to jump through hoops
and hey if you want to do that in your redneck religious county, go for it
But in Arlington, there should be 4 dispensary's at a minimum

and why the fuck have states not figured out how to do Pot bars and music venues!!!
...Correct me if I'm wrong, but feel like you can only legally smoke in medicinal locations in the us

I will ask my wife for more info around this and report back.
excellent, a source I trust

although I'd like to add that walky has proven to be a reliable source
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 28, 2021, 03:39:24 pm
I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure I heard 2 more medical dispensaries are coming to Fairfax and Sterling.  And also I believe I heard that medical dispensaries will be able to sell flower by October in Virginia.
Supposedly the Richmond one will be first to market with flower.
wait, WHAT!
this should have gone in the good news thread
I will ask my wife for more info around this and report back.
So July 1 is a few days away...what were the details of this reporting?
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: notme on June 29, 2021, 03:32:48 pm
free marijuana seeds july 1 rosslyn metro station 12noon-2pm. get in line now.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 29, 2021, 03:42:46 pm
I mean are these Feminized auto seeds...or just something someone found in the bottom of a bag
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 01, 2021, 09:03:28 am
Happy Legalization Day for my fellow VA residents. I'd like to say my wife waited to midnight to toke up but she did not.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 01, 2021, 09:34:36 am
Never believed this would happen in VA! 
no word on retail...last I saw was 2024 for Rec
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 01, 2021, 09:38:42 am
Is it typical for people with 9 to 5 jobs to smoke weed at 4am? 8am? Multiple times a day, daily?
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 01, 2021, 09:42:23 am
not typical for me....
been a daily smoker for decades, but never, ever smoke during the work day* 

*(ok, I have been on-call, but we are talking IT, not a DR)
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 01, 2021, 09:51:22 am
Is it typical for people with 9 to 5 jobs to smoke weed at 4am? 8am? Multiple times a day, daily?
Was this directed at me in response to saying my wife did not wait until midnight to toke up or was this a general query?
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 01, 2021, 09:52:51 am
no word on retail...last I saw was 2024 for Rec
Virginia just announced the creation of its "Cannabis Control Board" yesterday, the weed version of ABC. Retail will come Jan 1 2024 assuming something wild doesn't happen with the legislature and they do not give the "double approval" they wrote into the law next year.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 01, 2021, 10:24:33 am
Is it typical for people with 9 to 5 jobs to smoke weed at 4am? 8am? Multiple times a day, daily?
Was this directed at me in response to saying my wife did not wait until midnight to toke up or was this a general query?

General query, but always appreciate it when you chime in with useful chatter.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 01, 2021, 10:56:12 am
My useful chatter would be its probably pretty uncommon for people with 9 to 5 jobs to do anything at 4am aside from snoring.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 01, 2021, 12:09:44 pm
My useful chatter would be its probably pretty uncommon for people with 9 to 5 jobs to do anything at 4am aside from snoring.

What if stress and anxiety get to a person so much that they can't sleep at 4am. Would a weed break help?
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: grateful on July 01, 2021, 12:41:11 pm
That sounds like a classic example of patient acting as diagnostician and pharmacist. It a common approach when people just want an excuse to do illegal drugs.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 01, 2021, 12:45:18 pm
That sounds like a classic example of patient acting as diagnostician
That's why I only accept diagnoses from Dr. House.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 01, 2021, 05:09:33 pm
free marijuana seeds july 1 rosslyn metro station 12noon-2pm. get in line now.
line didn't look too bad
https://twitter.com/FitzFox5DC/status/1410641853196779521?s=20

Outside the Rosslyn Metro station was one of four locations where volunteers with VAMJ gave out seeds. The Arlington seed share lasted from 12-2 p.m. and among the four sites, more than 20,000 seeds were distributed, said organizer Adam Eidinger.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 01, 2021, 05:41:44 pm
Had to wait until after 5PM to exercise my right to consume in Virginia!

I think peter tosh would approve
(https://media4.giphy.com/media/14u94sy4SqNRwk/200.gif?cid=95b27944d2176ac757d039093d85946cb2ed2709b4ab4520&rid=200.gif&ct=g)
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: WALKonBack on July 02, 2021, 03:15:05 pm
Weed, is so passé now.

Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: sweetcell on July 06, 2021, 12:23:26 pm
What if stress and anxiety get to a person so much that they can't sleep at 4am. Would a weed break help?

a few times i've needed assistance getting back to sleep because of stress that either kept me up or woke me and didn't allow me to get back to sleep.  however, this has been a rare occurrence that i could count on one hand.  if someone is regularly unable to sleep due to stress, i would hope they'd look into solving the underlying issue(s) or consulting a medical professional...  lighting up at 4 am on the reg would be worrisome for me.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: grateful on July 06, 2021, 12:40:03 pm
They have melatonin for that.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: grateful on July 15, 2021, 02:25:56 pm
scromiting is a real thing (https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/high-potency-weed-linked-psychotic-episodes-mysterious-vomiting-illness-young-n1273463)
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: WALKonBack on July 29, 2021, 01:12:36 pm
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/amazon-endorsed-legal-weed-will-it-now-fight-to-make-it-happen/ar-AAMlVVj?ocid=BingNewsSearch

I see very rich, politicians in our future.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: WALKonBack on July 29, 2021, 01:14:14 pm
https://www.the-sun.com/news/3353105/meet-californias-weed-nuns-want-heal-world-marijuana/

I am seeing, a Flying Nun joke, in there somewhere.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 01, 2021, 03:15:10 pm
Keep virginia green...vote
https://www.marijuanamoment.net/marijuana-isnt-exactly-on-virginias-ballot-next-month-but-legalizations-fate-is-advocates-say/
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 06, 2021, 12:50:41 pm
I don't smoke weed, so I don't know what's normal. Is it normal to smoke weed on your lunch break on telework days?
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 06, 2021, 01:12:35 pm
I don't smoke weed, so I don't know what's normal. Is it normal to smoke weed on your lunch break on telework days?

overall it certainly isn't typical.  i think it depends on 1) one's ability to work while high, 2) how high one gets, and 3) what sort of works needs to be done.  creative or repetitive tasks are candidates for working while stoned; deep analytical work not so much - but that's just me (see point #1).  i'm sure at some point i've consumed during working hours, but i honestly can't remember the last time i did.

some people like to hit the gym while MJ'ed, personally i would lose interest in the weights and end up staring at the TV instead.  YMMV.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 06, 2021, 01:14:39 pm
I don't smoke weed, so I don't know what's normal. Is it normal to smoke weed on your lunch break on telework days?
nope
but I do have a good friend who does editing work and is high from the time he gets up and goes to bed
It's all telework and the employer is very happy with his work (been with them for over a decade)
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Yada on November 17, 2021, 09:17:03 am
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/seth-rogen-joint-rolling-tray_n_6192463ee4b0ab5f284c4de5/amp
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 17, 2021, 10:35:43 am
^not impressed at all
Why anyone wouldn't just get the pre-made cones to roll joints is beyond me...

Also, didn't realize I was doing it wrong the whole time, I always added the 'filter' when rolling the joint...seems so much easier to add it at the end
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Starsky on November 17, 2021, 10:41:55 am
Ladies and gentlemen our resident David Crosby
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: sweetcell on November 17, 2021, 03:30:40 pm
Why anyone wouldn't just get the pre-made cones to roll joints is beyond me...

why would you bake a cake from scratch instead of using a something from box?  why brew your own beer instead of buying a six-pack?  control. what if you want something bigger/smaller/etc than the shape of the cone?  those cones seem like a PITA to pack... how much control do you have over density/tightness?

Also, didn't realize I was doing it wrong the whole time, I always added the 'filter' when rolling the joint...seems so much easier to add it at the end

as a youngin that's what we did. putting it in at the end has 2 drawbacks:
1) the filter can be made too small, so it sits really loose in the joint.  you take a puff, and it falls out or sticks to your lips.  you're then left trying to stuff it back in to a burning joint.
2) when stuffing in the filter at the end, you can sometimes catch a fold in the paper, push that fold down, and end up blocking the joint.  this tends to occur when you make the filter too big, so it's barely smaller that the diameter of the joint.  the solution is not to make a big filter, i.e. one that will easily fit in and can unfurl once in place, but then you have the issue of it providing poor filtering and/or drawback #1 (see above).

in both cases, you have an annoying problem to solve just when you were looking forward to relaxing and enjoying a J.  i learned to put the filter in while rolling from some euros and haven't looked back since.  they also taught me about the reverse roll, but that's frankly more effort than i'm willing to put in most days...
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 17, 2021, 03:54:19 pm
will the real David Crosby please stand up


Why anyone wouldn't just get the pre-made cones to roll joints is beyond me...

why would you bake a cake from scratch instead of using a something from box?  why brew your own beer instead of buying a six-pack?  control. what if you want something bigger/smaller/etc than the shape of the cone?  those cones seem like a PITA to pack... how much control do you have over density/tightness?


it comes with a little cardboard packer, so you grind, fill a little, pack a little, repeat until filled
Just twist up and you are done...so easy I think Hutch could even swing it and they are perfect every time
Grinding is critical as that gets the pack even
I'd say I've probably rolled at least 100 joints in my life and none are as good as the ones I do with the cones

I don't think the beer/cake is a good comparison, but now I've got the munchies
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: GAY,GUY on January 29, 2022, 04:26:49 pm
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/virginia-republicans-push-for-changes-in-marijuana-law/ar-AATh1Sv?ocid=BingNewsSearch
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Starsky on January 29, 2022, 04:42:21 pm
I haven’t gotten baked in 20 months…. This is probably some record for me


Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 29, 2022, 05:05:40 pm
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/virginia-republicans-push-for-changes-in-marijuana-law/ar-AATh1Sv?ocid=BingNewsSearch
Hmm...so are republicans actually doing some good with this, I don't really oppose the proposed changes (although really need more detail on what they mean)  I hope they push up retail!  Some of the tax stuff was a little wonky and I think open for change

Those changes could include moving up the start date for retail sales and getting rid of a provision that would give licensing preference to people who have been convicted of marijuana crimes



I mean, it's kind of a dick thing to do, but of the parts of the bill I like, this was never one. I get the intention, but execution is going to be horrible
Republicans will strip the law of “social equity” provisions designed to help people who have been hurt by old marijuana laws



I haven’t gotten baked in 20 months….
I think toots is looking down from heaven, and he's not happy to hear this
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 29, 2022, 05:10:54 pm
https://twitter.com/YouGovAmerica/status/1486510776735182848

58% of Americans would be willing to vote for a candidate they agree with on most issues who occasionally smokes marijuana in their free time
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 03, 2022, 07:41:54 am
Could get retail in VA this summer
https://www.wric.com/news/virginia-lawmakers-may-speed-up-recreational-marijuana-sales/

Might have to thank a republican

Which is odd as last year every single one of them voted against it
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 03, 2022, 03:47:29 pm
Mississippi becomes the 37th state to legalize medical marijuana
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: GAY,GUY on February 03, 2022, 03:49:26 pm
Well, if this party doesn't keep Virginia . . . 'Panama Red' for years to come, I don't know what will.

I predict Virginia is going to become the "Colorado / California Weed State" of the East Coast.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 03, 2022, 03:53:17 pm
I predict Virginia is going to become the "Colorado / California Weed State" of the East Coast.
I'll smoke to that!
land of tobacco farmers, seems like a perfect fit
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 04, 2022, 03:56:16 pm
Schumer Plans To File Marijuana Legalization Bill In April As Top House Lawmaker Details His Own Reform Plan: "As majority leader, I can set priorities. This is a priority for me."

wonder if he plans to do it on the 20th?
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 05, 2022, 09:37:48 am
Likely on the Maryland ballot this November
Adult Recreational in the summer 2023 could be a thing
https://wtop.com/maryland/2022/02/md-bill-would-legalize-marijuana-expunge-convictions/
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 09, 2022, 05:32:58 pm
these fuckin republicans and their desire to fuck with DC never ends

https://www.axios.com/local/washington-dc/2022/03/09/dc-legalized-marijuana-sales-fed-budget

we might get Federal legalization  before DC can get something done that voters approved in 2014
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: GAY,GUY on March 09, 2022, 09:15:14 pm
I'm waiting for the new DC Strain . . . Carjacked

Get a medical card.  Problem solved.  Support small places, such as Herbal Alternatives on Rhode Island Ave, NW
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on March 09, 2022, 09:49:34 pm
I'm waiting for the new DC Strain . . . Carjacked

Get a medical card.  Problem solved.  Support small places, such as Herbal Alternatives on Rhode Island Ave, NW
Listen here, you little shit, this is TAKOMA WELLNESS Country and you aren’t going to come up in here and start this.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: GAY,GUY on March 09, 2022, 10:00:05 pm
I was, waiting.   You never dis,appoint.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on March 09, 2022, 10:09:37 pm
I was, waiting.   You never dis,appoint.
I have a shotgun and a shovel and I’m pretty sure no one would miss you and I could recover from the trauma of killing a man at one of metro DC’s many fine MARRIOTT BONVOY properties such as the ST REGIS or THE VEN AT EMBASSY ROW. Do you hear me?
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 09, 2022, 10:38:15 pm
viral marketing has definitely taken a turn for the weird recently...
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: GAY,GUY on March 09, 2022, 10:38:53 pm
God . . . I'm all hot, and turned on now.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 22, 2022, 02:43:21 pm
Was a contender for great headline

Johns Hopkins Is Paying People $2,660 to Eat Weed Brownies and Drink Booze... For Science, Of Course (https://merryjane.com/news/johns-hopkins-is-paying-people-dollar2660-to-eat-weed-brownies-and-drink-booze-for-science-of-course)
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: GAY,GUY on March 24, 2022, 07:37:48 pm
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/cannabis-stocks-soar-after-report-says-congress-plans-vote-on-federal-legalization-of-the-drug-next-week/ar-AAVsPsk?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531

Sure, Jan.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 25, 2022, 07:12:59 am
I dunno, stock market tends to be a good indicator
People with money typically don’t want to lose it
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 29, 2022, 07:03:12 am
Say it is so, joe!

https://dcist.com/story/22/03/28/biden-keeps-marijuana-sales-ban-dc/
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 01, 2022, 12:47:46 pm
Nice dig Raskin, but I do think the party of cocaine fueled orgies is the dems, heck the whole reason I joined

Acyn@Acyn
Raskin: I concede our party is not for the kind of cocaine fueled orgies that a freshman Republican representative bragged about but we do understand that their marijuana prohibition laws don’t work for our people


You know no matter what the Dem's propose on weed, the GQP will oppose it...even thought the majority of their base approves of legalization
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: GAY,GUY on April 05, 2022, 04:38:19 pm
Guurrrl . . . they got diet weed, now!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/thcv-is-being-called-diet-weed-due-to-claims-it-can-suppress-your-appetite-heres-everything-we-know-about-it/ar-AAVGWOu?ocid=uxbndlbing
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: GAY,GUY on April 20, 2022, 03:16:49 pm
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/this-is-what-cannabis-can-do-for-your-vagina-at-any-age/ar-AANqd05?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=a08ea379a95d4783b61bc9321c4592da
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 20, 2022, 03:19:11 pm
did you look that up because you are going through  menopause ?
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 20, 2022, 03:33:47 pm
Yes, I know this survey is 2+ years old, but first time I saw it.

Half Of Americans Think The Smell Of Weed In Public Is A Real Problem
Canadians hate it even more, according to a new major survey on cannabis.
 
 
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/dominicholden/americans-smell-marijuana-public-streets-canada
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Starsky on April 20, 2022, 03:36:24 pm
It’s pretty nasty
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 20, 2022, 03:47:26 pm
It’s pretty nasty

My neighbors and I have to put up with it daily, sometimes multiple times a day.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 20, 2022, 03:55:15 pm
the smell of freedom!

I think cigar smoke is horrid and get a headache, so ban cigars first
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 20, 2022, 03:59:50 pm
the smell of freedom!

I think cigar smoke is horrid and get a headache, so ban cigars first

Weed and tobacco smoke both smell awful to me, but I agree that cigar smoke is the worst. There have been countless cigar smokers that I've wanted to punch hard in my life.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 20, 2022, 04:02:47 pm
appropriate day to do this...but kinda of a weird thing, I do think this would appeal to the FL voter base
not a gun fan, but I think she is right

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/top-florida-democrat-sues-biden-administration-marijuana-guns-rcna25034

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FQzi-dUXoAIY05b?format=jpg&name=medium)


although at the same time Ron is doing this: Ron DeSantis’ plan to punish Disney for supporting LGBTQ rights by repealing their special district governing authority would raise taxes on Florida families in the Orlando area by $2,200 each
so that doesn't seem like a good move either
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 20, 2022, 04:24:14 pm
oh, happy 4:20
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: GAY,GUY on April 20, 2022, 11:40:42 pm
did you look that up because you are going through  menopause ?

who are these men, and why is there a pause of them?
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 22, 2022, 04:25:48 pm
not cool

https://www.comicsands.com/florida-bride-caterer-lasagna-marijuana-2657197290.html?
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Thousand Made-Up Loves on April 26, 2022, 01:20:42 pm
Yes, I know this survey is 2+ years old, but first time I saw it.

Half Of Americans Think The Smell Of Weed In Public Is A Real Problem
Canadians hate it even more, according to a new major survey on cannabis.
 
 
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/dominicholden/americans-smell-marijuana-public-streets-canada

Who cares, get over it. Did you mean to post this at DCUM?
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 26, 2022, 02:19:09 pm
Who cares, get over it.

i care.  i don't want my pursuits to impede others people in public.  if there was a new hobby/fad/tradition that stunk up a place, and possibly affected me physically, i'd object and wouldn't want it around me.  seems only fair to extend the same courtesy to others.   

i'd like society to get over the stigma associated with marijuana and generally make it more acceptable.  dismissing the fact that some find the smell objectionable isn't going to get us there.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: GAY,GUY on May 15, 2022, 07:57:02 pm
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/marijuana-breathalyzers-cannabix-technologies-correlates-thc-in-breath-blood-in-new-experimental-study/ar-AAX4xSN?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=8c6f5e7dcc4848a8bb02adc966deee7f
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on May 18, 2022, 02:08:16 pm
this just seems like such a slam dunk for dems.  Create tons of leagel revenue, jobs and taxes (then use that money to pay for the somewhat unpopular (but good for the masses) things they want to do)...instead of raising taxes

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FTDqEVQXsAMjl0F?format=jpg&name=large)
The Massachusetts Cannabis Control Commission reported that the state’s licensed retailers have now sold more than $3 billion worth of legal recreational marijuana products since sales launched.

The $2 billion mark was crossed just eight months ago.

https://marijuanamoment.net/massachusetts-adult-use-marijuana-sales-officially-exceed-3-billion-state-reports/
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: GAY,GUY on June 27, 2022, 04:52:56 pm
Is there any left that we are doing, that isn't spied on?

https://www.weedworthy.com/the-news/press-releases/what-a-national-medical-marijuana-registry-could-mean-for-those-on-the-list

Hey everyone . . . I just took a major shit, and my toilet tracked my turds and submitted the data to third party hosts.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on June 27, 2022, 04:55:47 pm
The National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA) has applied to create a national database of medical marijuana users in order to understand more about marijuana and how it is used to treat medical conditions in America.

that a Drug Abuse agency is tracking it already tells you what they are expecting from the data
I'm sure it's funded by Pharma/Big bev/Tobacco
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: sweetcell on June 27, 2022, 05:38:24 pm
The National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA) has applied to create a national database of medical marijuana users in order to understand more about marijuana and how it is used to treat medical conditions in America.

that a Drug Abuse agency is tracking it already tells you what they are expecting from the data
I'm sure it's funded by Pharma/Big bev/Tobacco

and the whole plot was hatched by the Federalist Society, and pre-approved by 5 SC justices...
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Bagley on July 06, 2022, 10:30:27 am
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/fox-news-mass-shootings-blame-weed-tucker-carlson-laura-ingraham-1378425/
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 15, 2022, 07:58:03 am
Arlington finally gets a dispensary

https://www.arlnow.com/2022/07/14/new-arlingtons-first-medical-cannabis-dispensary-is-opening-in-clarendon/
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on July 15, 2022, 08:17:50 am
Arlington finally gets a dispensary

https://www.arlnow.com/2022/07/14/new-arlingtons-first-medical-cannabis-dispensary-is-opening-in-clarendon/
Who's really the target consumer of this when TAKOMA WELLNESS, DC's best family-owned and operated dispensary, is just across the river a short, short 45 minute drive away? Tell them Julian sent you!
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 22, 2022, 04:42:35 pm
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/3569126-senate-democrats-roll-out-long-awaited-bill-to-legalize-marijuana/
come on baby, lets get this passed
I would think the voters would love this
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Starsky on July 22, 2022, 05:10:06 pm
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/3569126-senate-democrats-roll-out-long-awaited-bill-to-legalize-marijuana/
come on baby, lets get this passed
I would think the voters would love this

Manchin
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on July 22, 2022, 05:13:08 pm
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/3569126-senate-democrats-roll-out-long-awaited-bill-to-legalize-marijuana/
come on baby, lets get this passed
I would think the voters would love this

Manchin
(https://i.makeagif.com/media/1-18-2018/Jk6JpX.gif)
just imagine him sayin manchin!

come on man west virginians LOVE weed
https://www.wboy.com/news/west-virginia/poll-west-virginia-voters-support-end-of-federal-cannabis-prohibition/

I did smoke a big joint with the director and ms jules in front of his boat
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: GAY,GUY on September 09, 2022, 08:40:11 am
Go, Joe, Go!  Do it, before the midterms!

The Dark Brandon, Rises
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 09, 2022, 08:42:40 am
I couldn’t agree more.  Does anyone know if he can change Mary Jane from being schedule 1 drug with an executive order?
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 09, 2022, 09:34:36 am
I couldn’t agree more.  Does anyone know if he can change Mary Jane from being schedule 1 drug with an executive order?
No. He can order agencies to CONSIDER making it not a schedule 1 or order them to change enforcement, but he cannot delist marijuana as a schedule 1 drug unilaterally by executive order.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 09, 2022, 09:54:05 am
here comes Debbie Drug Law Downer
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 09, 2022, 09:57:57 am
here comes Debbie Drug Law Downer
You're literally the person who asked the question, bro.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 09, 2022, 11:24:23 am
here comes Debbie Drug Law Downer
You're literally the person who asked the question, bro.
I WANTED YOU TO LIE TO ME!
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 09, 2022, 11:36:29 am
here comes Debbie Drug Law Downer
You're literally the person who asked the question, bro.
I WANTED YOU TO LIE TO ME!
"Joe Biden can add 14 new liberal Supreme Court justices, cancel all student debt, make Roe v Wade the law of the land, and decriminalize all drugs, all by fiat. The fact that he doesn't makes him literally worse than Trump. Why do we even vote for Democrats?" - Progressive Twitter
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 09, 2022, 11:43:24 am
Bravo, take a bow....that was exquisite
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 09, 2022, 05:02:29 pm
I couldn’t agree more.  Does anyone know if he can change Mary Jane from being schedule 1 drug with an executive order?
No. He can order agencies to (...) change enforcement

that is his main play: tell the DEA and DOJ to stop pursuing small-scale MJ possession.  two problems:
1. the prez has almost no sway over state and local police.  most small-timers and back-alley joint smokers aren't busted by the DEA. 
2. while some 65% of this country would support de-enforcement/decriminalization/etc., the remaining 35% are likely to make a political mountain of it, and would likely be willing to die on that hill.  IMO it's like abortion: those in favor just expect it, while those opposed are militant.  the right would have an absolute field day labelling Joe the "dealer in chief", "the president that brought crack to every neighborhood", etc.

in a nutshell, it would be lighting a fuse under a red state/blue state issue that currently isn't an issue.  given how many issues Joe has to deal with currently, i doubt he needs a new headache.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 09, 2022, 05:07:18 pm
but there is honestly big support in red states...maybe not the political leaders, but the voters for sure
I agree there will be a lot of backlash and easy political points will be won with ads like
 'joe's soft on crime, do you want some whacked out Phish fan raping your daughter because he smoked some of Joe's Dank SkunkAF"

but you are 100% right...Joe has Zero control over the police (somewhat by design)
but taking it off schedule 1 would be HUGE and change sentencing dramatically
this could easily reinstate the voting rights of close to a million felons too if done correctly

(can you believe there are 19 milion felons in the US.  the term is somewhat BS though as it doesn't relate to the crime severity as one thinks it does)

Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: GAY,GUY on September 09, 2022, 05:07:58 pm
I couldn’t agree more.  Does anyone know if he can change Mary Jane from being schedule 1 drug with an executive order?
No. He can order agencies to (...) change enforcement

that is his main play: tell the DEA and DOJ to stop pursuing small-scale MJ possession.  two problems:
1. the prez has almost no sway over state and local police.  most small-timers and back-alley joint smokers aren't busted by the DEA. 
2. while some 65% of this country would support de-enforcement/decriminalization/etc., the remaining 35% are likely to make a political mountain of it, and would likely be willing to die on that hill.  IMO it's like abortion: those in favor just expect it, while those opposed are militant.  the right would have an absolute field day labelling Joe the "dealer in chief", "the president that brought crack to every neighborhood", etc.

in a nutshell, it would be lighting a fuse under a red state/blue state issue that currently isn't an issue.  given how many issues Joe has to deal with currently, i doubt he needs a new headache.

Oh you . . . with, the logic.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: GAY,GUY on September 09, 2022, 05:08:59 pm
but there is honestly big support in red states...maybe not the political leaders, but the voters for sure
I agree there will be a lot of backlash and easy political points will be won with ads like
 'joe's soft on crime, do you want some whacked out Phish fan raping your daughter because he smoked some of Joe's Dank SkunkAF"

Oh you, with the, Phish logic.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 09, 2022, 05:12:04 pm
but there is honestly big support in red states...maybe not the political leaders, but the voters for sure
I agree there will be a lot of backlash and easy political points will be won with ads like
 'joe's soft on crime, do you want some whacked out Phish fan raping your daughter because he smoked some of Joe's Dank SkunkAF"

Oh you, with the, Phish logic.
trust me, I've been warning my daughters of the danger of phish phans since day 1
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 09, 2022, 07:32:10 pm
Sweets, you have this backwards. The pro-MJ people are single issue voters; the anti-MJ voters are very milquetoast on this.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 09, 2022, 11:48:19 pm
The pro-MJ people are single issue voters

jules, two questions:
1. are you in favor of decriminalization/de-enforcement/etc.?
2. how important is this issue to you vs. abortion, climate change, immigration reform, healthcare reform, the economy, etc.?
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 09, 2022, 11:50:35 pm
but taking it off schedule 1 would be HUGE and change sentencing dramatically

again, joe can't do that.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 10, 2022, 11:12:25 am
The pro-MJ people are single issue voters

jules, two questions:
1. are you in favor of decriminalization/de-enforcement/etc.?
2. how important is this issue to you vs. abortion, climate change, immigration reform, healthcare reform, the economy, etc.?
Yes, I’m in favor of the full legalization of marijuana and the decriminalization of most drugs (despite the fact that I do not use weed personally). That said, I never talk about this subject and would not self-identify as a “pro MJ voter” because it’s really not all that important to me. I’m not a person who is sharing NORML’s talking points online. 

Literally every other topic you listed is of far greater concern and would more sway my vote over drug reform.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Starsky on September 10, 2022, 12:41:42 pm
Juste exactamente!

Bien monsieur! Tres bien
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: grateful on September 10, 2022, 05:56:38 pm
The ¿Que estás fumando? thread is over there -->
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 11, 2022, 01:20:45 am
The pro-MJ people are single issue voters

jules, two questions:
1. are you in favor of decriminalization/de-enforcement/etc.?
2. how important is this issue to you vs. abortion, climate change, immigration reform, healthcare reform, the economy, etc.?
Yes, I’m in favor of the full legalization of marijuana and the decriminalization of most drugs (despite the fact that I do not use weed personally). That said, I never talk about this subject and would not self-identify as a “pro MJ voter” because it’s really not all that important to me. I’m not a person who is sharing NORML’s talking points online. 

Literally every other topic you listed is of far greater concern and would more sway my vote over drug reform.

soooooooooo... you realize you just undermined your own point, right?  you're a pro-MJ voter, but you're far from a single-issue voter.

just sayin'.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: GAY,GUY on September 11, 2022, 09:58:50 am
Julian, I love you, but I stopped listening, when you said you aren't a smoker of weed.

Your opinion, is highly, invalid. 

The, end.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on September 11, 2022, 10:24:35 am
The pro-MJ people are single issue voters

jules, two questions:
1. are you in favor of decriminalization/de-enforcement/etc.?
2. how important is this issue to you vs. abortion, climate change, immigration reform, healthcare reform, the economy, etc.?
Yes, I’m in favor of the full legalization of marijuana and the decriminalization of most drugs (despite the fact that I do not use weed personally). That said, I never talk about this subject and would not self-identify as a “pro MJ voter” because it’s really not all that important to me. I’m not a person who is sharing NORML’s talking points online. 

Literally every other topic you listed is of far greater concern and would more sway my vote over drug reform.

soooooooooo... you realize you just undermined your own point, right?  you're a pro-MJ voter, but you're far from a single-issue voter.

just sayin'.
No, I actually didn’t although I knew this is what you were trying to do. I don’t vote based on a candidates stand on weed. I’ve voted for many fuddy-Duddy old school Dems who get the vapors at the thought of weed legalization.

Regardless of how we want to define pro-MJ voters, my underlying point stands: there is a large block of people — ten million plus — for whom Marijuana legalization is their #1 issue. There is no one for whom “keep weed illegal” is their #1 issue. The enthusiasm gap on this issue is night and day.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Thousand Made-Up Loves on September 11, 2022, 08:28:27 pm
Short of federal legalization, would be nice for the Biden Admin to propose some new rules regarding security clearances so they don't blacklist anyone who admits to regular MJ usage. Stone cold drunks can get a clearance with flying colors but if you, heaven forbid, admit to using MJ, you don't have a prayer.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 11, 2022, 11:05:15 pm
100%^
so many states adult recreational is legit, but a lot of companies still are doing drug testing for THC
Also if you have a record, you are kinda screwed for life as you can never get a decent job
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 12, 2022, 02:41:31 am
Short of federal legalization, would be nice for the Biden Admin to propose some new rules regarding security clearances so they don't blacklist anyone who admits to regular MJ usage.

the FBI are struggling with this issue.  they realized about a decade ago that they weren't getting the best cyber-security experts (read: hackers) because of the ban on weed.  so they changed their rules (in some silly ways (https://www.marijuanamoment.net/fbi-clarifies-that-using-marijuana-more-than-24-times-disqualifies-would-be-agents/)) to allow for some MJ use - in the past.  current users need not apply.  even when the agency's mission is jeopardized they still can't allow weekend smokers in.  the institutional momentum in these agencies isn't going to be overcome by a white house directive saying "hey guys, could you please start hiring stoners"...


Stone cold drunks can get a clearance with flying colors but if you, heaven forbid, admit to using MJ, you don't have a prayer.

that's a nah.  if during the investigation for a security clearance they discover you're a raging alcoholic, you can kiss that clearance goodbye.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Thousand Made-Up Loves on September 12, 2022, 11:07:36 am
Also if you have a record, you are kinda screwed for life as you can never get a decent job

This isn't true at all, especially for MJ offenses, which are almost always misdemeanors and eligible for post-sentence elimination from records.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 12, 2022, 01:31:36 pm
Also if you have a record, you are kinda screwed for life as you can never get a decent job

This isn't true at all, especially for MJ offenses, which are almost always misdemeanors and eligible for post-sentence elimination from records.
well you need to know that first and second be able to afford a lawyer to do this

In  VA until recently if you had like 4 vape cartridges…was a felony
There are a lot… like 100s of thousands of Americans who have had their lives destroyed over a simple possession charge
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: sweetcell on September 12, 2022, 02:16:22 pm
i was going to comment about this, specifically about "never get a decent job".  yes, having a criminal record will prevent you from getting some jobs, maybe even a majority of jobs... but certainly not all jobs.  i'm 95% sure i wasn't asked about my criminal record during recruitment for my current job, and i consider it a very decent job.  even for those that do ask, i'm not sure that an possession conviction will necessarily disqualify you.  as an employer, i'd be way more interested in theft, any form of fraud/embezzlement, tax evasion, etc.).  i'm certain there are zero tolerance folks out there too, but let's not assume 100% coverage.

(now that i think of it, i did have to take a pee test for one of the two jobs i've held out here... but was explicitly told that they're not looking for MJ)
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 12, 2022, 05:45:19 pm
the IT field is a little different (although dell still drug tests)
but every company I've ever worked at does a background check and that comes up,
true most employers don't care that I have a possession charge from when I was 18 (and yes I was told that I could get that expunged, but honestly never did, because it's never been an issue)
but I usually come to the table as a referral or have well documented experience and references.

so yes it's not 100% by anymeans, but I would say a lot of people are not getting job offers because that's on their record
not sure you can dispute that
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Thousand Made-Up Loves on September 12, 2022, 06:57:47 pm
well you need to know that first and second be able to afford a lawyer to do this

In  VA until recently if you had like 4 vape cartridges…was a felony
There are a lot… like 100s of thousands of Americans who have had their lives destroyed over a simple possession charge

Stop with the hysterics already. A MJ misdemeanor conviction doesn't damn you to a lifetime of crappy jobs, which was your point.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Thousand Made-Up Loves on September 12, 2022, 07:01:40 pm
so yes it's not 100% by anymeans, but I would say a lot of people are not getting job offers because that's on their record
not sure you can dispute that

You're not exactly being insightful or providing any sort of news. Yes, if you have a MJ possession conviction on your record, it's entirely possible to likely that you will be passed over for jobs, especially in the first couple of years afterward. Duh.

The good news is in 2022, most decently behaved people don't have to worry too much about this because even in prohibition states, you are provided the opportunity for expungement upon successful completion of probation. Where it is no longer on your record and you don't have to tell potential employers about it. Thus, your issue is negated.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 12, 2022, 07:20:00 pm
you guys are obviously the MAN, and fuck the man is all I gotta say
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: grateful on September 12, 2022, 08:14:16 pm
A MJ misdemeanor conviction doesn't damn you to a lifetime of crappy jobs

There's a little bit of chicken/egg stuff going on here. It's not a rule per se, but a correlation in some cases.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: GAY,GUY on September 13, 2022, 09:45:12 am
Jesus Christ; no really, Jesus, I'm talking to you.  Thank you very much, for allowing me to have this thread.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on September 13, 2022, 11:03:01 am
Jesus Christ; no really, Jesus, I'm talking to you.  Thank you very much, for allowing me to have this thread.
yeah, I looked through the members and he's not on this forum, must be using a fake user name
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Thousand Made-Up Loves on September 13, 2022, 09:49:42 pm
It's not a rule per se, but a correlation in some cases.

In 2022, unless you live in some southern shithole, it's almost meaningless.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on October 25, 2022, 02:11:46 pm
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/312625354_10160006016591648_4761946836680716000_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=5Y6SDStAJIsAX9VQqtS&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=00_AT8fugVpfNTNhxjWyoQLfoWeg_KmELQnV8FDOnTO1uzlHg&oe=635CA1EB)
I always suspected ernie would partake
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Starsky on October 25, 2022, 02:24:22 pm
Bert should partake….
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 25, 2022, 02:51:08 pm
Watch Bruce Dickinson admonish fans for smoking weed during Iron Maiden Show (https://www.loudersound.com/news/watch-bruce-dickinson-admonish-fans-for-smoking-weed-during-iron-maiden-show)
"I'm amazed you can even see" - Bruce Dickinson has a word with weed smokers, reveals that Steve Harris hates the smell of marijuana
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 16, 2022, 05:25:12 pm
hmm, liking this Congresswoman from NC..even if she is a R

a GOP congresswoman says there’s an urgent need for bipartisan collaboration on the issue of marijuana so lawmakers can reach consensus on a path forward to end federal prohibition.

Rep. Nancy Mace (R-SC),

 
https://www.marijuanamoment.net/gop-congresswoman-discusses-plans-to-advance-winning-marijuana-issue-under-new-house-majority/

although, really not sure why Dems didn't use this
I guess with some of the crime stuff in the news it didn't seem like a winning message

https://twitter.com/RepNancyMace/status/1592929394728742912?s=20&t=m41MRnWThma7yYKf1x2tdQ
here she is thanking Jaime Raskin! 
I like this bi-partisan stuff
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 16, 2022, 05:29:38 pm
hmm, liking this Congresswoman from NC..even if she is a R

a GOP congresswoman says there’s an urgent need for bipartisan collaboration on the issue of marijuana so lawmakers can reach consensus on a path forward to end federal prohibition.

Rep. Nancy Mace (R-SC),

 
https://www.marijuanamoment.net/gop-congresswoman-discusses-plans-to-advance-winning-marijuana-issue-under-new-house-majority/

although, really not sure why Dems didn't use this
I guess with some of the crime stuff in the news it didn't seem like a winning message

https://twitter.com/RepNancyMace/status/1592929394728742912?s=20&t=m41MRnWThma7yYKf1x2tdQ

South Carolina, not NC.

Her name tings a bell for other reasons, but I can't remember why.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 16, 2022, 05:30:49 pm
Dakota, Carolina, Virgina
they all look the same, I can't tell em apart

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/10/26/curious-case-of-nancy-mace-517159
she tried to primary Lindsay in 2014!

 disavowing the former president in the wake of the insurrection

after voting to hold bannon in contempt
“I said I would not blindly follow partisan politics, but rather vote for what is right — not for what is politically expedient — and, most importantly, represent our district,” she added.
“She’s an anomaly,” one senior House Republican said. ”I’m not sure what her political calculation is all the time, but I guess maybe she’s gonna say she’s doing it on principle … I don’t really understand the game she’s playing.”

Imagine that...doing something on principal

also may know her for being the first female recruit to graduate from the Citadel

so far I like what I see...I'm sure she'll do some dastardly GQP stuff, but for right now she's got my support
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on November 21, 2022, 02:58:58 pm
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/315228492_660999545435833_4764132771614677263_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=wbY5nLsGfikAX_EXNXO&tn=j8sdxgIAPId1txgw&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=00_AfDNzkjuZDjLQtTZNMCOnOaCGqA88scRTtqhXwOskfGUlw&oe=63804978)
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: sweetcell on January 17, 2023, 03:44:47 pm
John Larroquette says he was paid in weed for 'Texas Chainsaw Massacre' work
https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/17/entertainment/john-larroquette-weed/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/17/entertainment/john-larroquette-weed/index.html)
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 17, 2023, 03:56:54 pm
Funny you bring up John Larroquette, as I was going to post on her that there is a Night Court reboot and John Larroquette is in it

 It's more like Night Court: The Next Generation, if you will.

In this case, the gavel has been passed to Judge Harry Stone’s daughter, Abby. Harry Stone was played to perfection by the late Harry Anderson, who passed away in 2018. Abby Stone is following in her father’s footsteps, but her courtroom features a very memorable person from her father’s days with John Larroquette’s Dan Fielding, formerly an assistant district attorney who frequented Harry’s courtroom.


Harry anderson was great, no way it could be the same without him
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Starsky on January 17, 2023, 04:18:33 pm
Markie Post!!
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 17, 2023, 04:19:49 pm
Markie Post!!
sadly, she couldn't make this because she died August 7, 2021

Reported by sweets
https://forum.930.com/index.php?topic=11001.msg521697#msg521697
and drooled on by smakie
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Starsky on January 17, 2023, 04:28:12 pm
Yeah I know….


But I crushed on her hard….
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on January 17, 2023, 04:35:21 pm
But I crushed on her hard….
can confirm.  remember you watching Night Court at the holdsworth house with a box of Kleenex near by
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Cock Van Der Palm on January 17, 2023, 09:04:36 pm
yeah...I don't like where this thread is heading
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 21, 2023, 09:02:03 am
Grrr the Virginia GOP is pissing me off
https://www.wric.com/news/politics/capitol-connection/gop-plan-defunds-state-agency-on-marijuana-without-staff-input/

Pretty much using the tactics that they used in DC to stop retail

Jules what’s the word on the street on this year’s pot laws?
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 21, 2023, 09:39:38 am
Jules what’s the word on the street on this year’s pot laws?
All the bills to legalize retail died in the HoD. I'd say go out in vote in November and flip that, but Youngkin has indicated he's very unlikely to sign anything that's sent to him anyway.

Dems screwed the pooch on this going with this insane "let's legalize and codify the framework for retail and oversight, but lets require a wildly unnecessary second vote on this a year later after elections potentially take one of the three parts of government that gets to weigh in away from us" boondoggle.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on February 21, 2023, 10:38:17 am
but lets require a wildly unnecessary second vote on this a year later after elections potentially take one of the three parts of government that gets to weigh in away from us" boondoggle.
I  know...WTF
I guess it was an olive branch, but it didn't get a single GOP vote, so was stupid to do it that way

thing is VA GOP Voters support this (maybe not all) so I don't get why they aren't listening to their constituents
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on February 21, 2023, 11:17:46 am
They did the "second vote to confirm" thing because they fell into the classic trap that Dems do where they look at marijuana polling, see its wildly popular on both sides of the aisle, assume they will be able to get votes off it, then discover they gain not one single vote on this topic that they would not have already gotten because this is not a "single issue voter" type issue [with the exception of twelve stoners who were voting for Dems anyway].

Wildly popular =/= gets votes.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Yada on April 10, 2023, 09:42:19 am
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CqmRZDzAwx_/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Thousand Made-Up Loves on April 10, 2023, 09:00:15 pm
Short of federal legalization, would be nice for the Biden Admin to propose some new rules regarding security clearances so they don't blacklist anyone who admits to regular MJ usage. Stone cold drunks can get a clearance with flying colors but if you, heaven forbid, admit to using MJ, you don't have a prayer.

Wow, good thing the federal government flat out rejects current MJ users for secret and top secret clearances. We can't trust those untrustworthy dope smokers, they can't be trusted with our nation's most important secrets.

Oh, wait............
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on April 19, 2023, 09:38:35 am
In tragic news

https://www.news-leader.com/story/news/local/2023/04/19/statewide-marijuana-flower-shortage-impacts-420-deals/70123531007/
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Thousand Made-Up Loves on April 20, 2023, 05:05:22 pm
Tons of free weed being given away on U St. The shops are competing with each other.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Hutch on April 20, 2023, 05:35:00 pm
Tons of free weed being given away on U St. The shops are competing with each other.

Wow life just keeps getting better for potheads!!

Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 05, 2023, 02:42:12 pm
In the first month… almost 90 million in sales (over 5 million in tax revenue) in the first month of legalization in MD

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/sales-of-recreational-marijuana-exceed-expectations-in-first-month-of-legalization-in-maryland/3398444/


I hope the va legislature takes this into account when January rolls around this year

Leaving an insane amount of tax revenue on the table by not figuring out how to do sales,  md did it in 82 days! (Jez been over a decade in dc)
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Hutch on August 05, 2023, 05:29:47 pm
Yeah not convinced tax revenues is a good reason to legalize.

That’s how people justify the lotteries which are very regressive and in my opinion immoral. Same with all the casinos.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Thousand Made-Up Loves on August 05, 2023, 08:11:03 pm
Yeah not convinced tax revenues is a good reason to legalize.

That’s how people justify the lotteries which are very regressive and in my opinion immoral. Same with all the casinos.

You lost, get over it.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: nkotb on August 05, 2023, 08:25:29 pm
The only valid reason for legalizing weed is that it's cool
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Hutch on August 05, 2023, 08:35:17 pm
I am always in favor of legalization but the argument that it increases tax revenue, while effective politically, just doesn’t cut it with me.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Yada on August 06, 2023, 07:51:26 am
In the first month… almost 90 million in sales (over 5 million in tax revenue) in the first month of legalization in MD

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/sales-of-recreational-marijuana-exceed-expectations-in-first-month-of-legalization-in-maryland/3398444/


I hope the va legislature takes this into account when January rolls around this year

Leaving an insane amount of tax revenue on the table by not figuring out how to do sales,  md did it in 82 days! (Jez been over a decade in dc)

Va... what a terrible state.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Thousand Made-Up Loves on August 06, 2023, 09:00:37 pm
I am always in favor of legalization but the argument that it increases tax revenue, while effective politically, just doesn’t cut it with me.

Are you arguing that MJ legalization doesn't result in increased tax revenue? That wouldn't make any sense.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Hutch on August 07, 2023, 07:56:32 am
No. I am saying it’s not a good reason to legalize marijuana.

Marijuana should be legal because it’s not that bad for you not because governments can make money from it.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 07, 2023, 09:01:39 am
Marijuana should be legal because it’s not that bad for you not because governments can make money from it.
I'm in total agreement

But I like to share the tax revenue info, as all that revenue was going into the black market (I know I'm a racist)
just in MD close to 1 Billion every year to an economy that was not exactly above recrimination
it's funding all sorts of other illegal enterprises....only because the gov't made it illegal to posses, sell and consume

People want real legit jobs and a taxable revenue stream...well god dammed if I we didn't just discover a massive untapped stream

It can support local businesses, and farmers, and create local jobs that aren't some big box retailer (where most of the revenue goes somewhere else)...heck even boosts girl scout cookie sales.


Yes...this is counter to: It should just be legal, it's just a plant. 

But it's the, "I had no idea there would be that many ancillary benefits to someone smoking a joint."
People were already doing it, so why not create a legit source for jobs and tax revenue...and keep it out of the black market

Va... what a terrible state.
for the record, we had legal adult recreation consumption and possession 2 years before MD.  But the f'n republudicks made sales such a clusterfuck, who knows when they will get their heads out of their asses.   I'm sure it will start to become an issue when people bring up that their next-door neighbor cash a 5 million a month in tax revenue and can say they are creating new jobs
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on August 07, 2023, 09:16:30 am
But the f'n republudicks made sales such a clusterfuck, who knows when they will get their heads out of their asses.   
No, the Democrats, who passed marijuana legalization and the path to recreational sales while holding the House of Delegates, State Assembly, AG, and Governor's office made this a clusterfuck by deciding they'd all like to get home to their districts a day or two earlier and writing a "details to come later and require ratification next year or else hit stop on a consumer marketplace" provision into it instead of doing the work knowing full-well elections were around the corner and it was more than likely -- even if you didn't see the executive office loses coming -- that the HoD was going to swing back to the GOP.

You don't get to not provide someone CPR then blame the EMTs who show up 10 minutes later for not doing enough.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on August 07, 2023, 09:23:43 am
Don't use facts to fuck with my imagined narrative!
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Blow, me, Joey on March 08, 2024, 09:10:32 am
As payback for the arena deal, Youngkin is more than likely going to kill the legal sales in VA set to take place next year.

The two party government; the voice of the people.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on March 08, 2024, 10:29:54 am
As payback for the arena deal, Youngkin is more than likely going to kill the legal sales in VA set to take place next year.

The two party government; the voice of the people.
He was never, ever, ever signing any retail marijuana bill that came to his desk.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 08, 2024, 03:55:03 pm
As payback for the arena deal, Youngkin is more than likely going to kill the legal sales in VA set to take place next year.

The two party government; the voice of the people.
He was never, ever, ever signing any retail marijuana bill that came to his desk.
yep and there isn't the will to overturn his veto...republicans suck, it's just that simple...yet many a republican pot smoker or libertarian will keep voting against their own interests
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on March 08, 2024, 04:11:58 pm
As payback for the arena deal, Youngkin is more than likely going to kill the legal sales in VA set to take place next year.

The two party government; the voice of the people.
He was never, ever, ever signing any retail marijuana bill that came to his desk.
yep and there isn't the will to overturn his veto...republicans suck, it's just that simple...yet many a republican pot smoker or libertarian will keep voting against their own interests
The Democrats have no one to blame for this but themselves. They had the HoD, State Senate, and Governorship and for reasons no one can explain, they passed this in a way that required reauthorization a year later to establish retail knowing full well there was a Governor election in the interim. This is an astonishing own-goal. 
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 08, 2024, 04:12:53 pm
This is an astonishing own-goal.
look at you with a soccer reference, you've come a long way baby
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI on March 08, 2024, 04:14:25 pm
This is an astonishing own-goal.
look at you with a soccer reference, you've come a long way baby
It was a hockey reference.
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 08, 2024, 06:04:53 pm
This is an astonishing own-goal.
look at you with a soccer reference, you've come a long way baby
It was a hockey reference.
well played
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 08, 2024, 09:38:09 pm
This is an astonishing own-goal.
look at you with a soccer reference, you've come a long way baby
It was a hockey reference.
well played

actually if it's an own goal then it was poorly played
Title: Re: the weed, thread
Post by: ye-ole-hatch ıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl on March 08, 2024, 09:53:05 pm
This is an astonishing own-goal.
look at you with a soccer reference, you've come a long way baby
It was a hockey reference.
well played

actually if it's an own goal then it was poorly played
Not if you made a deal with the bookie beforehand