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Title: The Nats Thread
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on July 13, 2006, 04:32:00 pm
whadda ya think of today's trade (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2518314&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines)?  obviously tons more trades to come before the end of the month, but kearns and lopez are solid young players
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: BookerT on July 13, 2006, 04:39:00 pm
i still think bowden's a chump, but it's hard not to see how he's not the big winner here. i mean, how ridiculous is it that the headline is "Reds get Majewski in eight-player deal with Washington." huh? sure he's a solid reliever, but there are about 40-50 guys in the minors who could come up and work in the bullpen and have a 3.58 era with a very mediocre strikeout rate.
 
 kearns has never fulfilled his potential, but he's still a solid hitter and only 26 years old, although he will start to get expensive pretty soon. lopez might never match last year, but he's certainly an upgrade over royce fucking clayton. not sure where all the at-bats will go with soriano/guillen/kearns seemingly at two positions, could indicate a soriano deal, but big thumbs up for this one.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on July 13, 2006, 04:42:00 pm
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Originally posted by BookerT:
  i mean, how ridiculous is it that the headline is "Reds get Majewski in eight-player deal with Washington."
agreed, trade headlines are invariably retarded ... the key here is that we're getting rid of royce clayton (who would have thought that??) and a good reliever for two solid younger players ... i would have liked to have seen us come out of this season still having majewski, but this is a really good trade
 
 with his speed, i could see them putting soriano in CF (and everyone cringing) until he's dealt later this month
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: BookerT on July 13, 2006, 04:44:00 pm
apparently that was just the cincy ap writer, which is why the headline appeared that way. espn.com correctly identifies kearns and lopez as the big names. and apparently kearns, even tho he doesn't look it, is a pretty solid defender, so they might try him in center. it'd be worth to get his bat in there every day instead of escobar/anderson/byrd/etc. that's a pretty intimidating lineup they have now, believe it or not.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Guiny on July 13, 2006, 04:45:00 pm
Lopez and Kearns fantasy value has just taken a huge hit.  They go from a shoe box stadium to a park that is not hitter friendly.  I was suprised Soriano adapted so well offensively, I didn't keep him last year in one of my leagues because of the trade.  I better hope Ian Kinsler makes me not regret it in the second half.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: BookerT on July 13, 2006, 05:17:00 pm
hey, speaking of fantasy baseball, how's that working out for everyone???   :cool:
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on July 13, 2006, 06:02:00 pm
Fat Sidney to Yanks - Soriano next?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Mobius on July 13, 2006, 06:32:00 pm
I think Lopez and Kearns are solid additions, but they fit the general Nationals mold of good players that its difficult to get excited about - epitomized by Nick Johnson who's a wonderful hitter, almost never (if ever) has a bad at-bat, but he's just not that exciting a player.  Kearns and Lopez are guys who put up good numbers - but they're pretty anonymous outside of fantasy circles.  And you would never say to yourself-"I think I'll head over to RFK to watch Lopez and Kearns swing the bat."  Still looks like a good trade - I'm just saying that the Nats could use more guys that you want to make it a point to see.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Guiny on July 14, 2006, 11:16:00 am
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Originally posted by BookerT:
  hey, speaking of fantasy baseball, how's that working out for everyone???    :cool:  
50-48 in my league.  That still puts me last in my division.  But my team will be making a huge comeback in the second half I believe.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Guiny on July 14, 2006, 11:17:00 am
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Originally posted by Shemp:
  Fat Sidney to Yanks - Soriano next?
Hopefully Bobby Abreau.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on July 14, 2006, 11:46:00 am
Luis Matos???
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Taster on July 14, 2006, 02:49:00 pm
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Originally posted by Shemp:
  Luis Matos???
Can't be much worse than Marlon Byrd.  Can he?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on July 27, 2006, 03:56:00 pm
hows about 2 straight sweeps!  maybe we'll be able to get something for livan after all ...
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on August 11, 2006, 01:20:00 pm
i know some of you will appreciate this ...  JSF's worthless baseball card collection (http://www.joesportsfan.com/CardCollection.html)
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Guiny on August 11, 2006, 01:37:00 pm
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa08:
  i know some of you will appreciate this ...  JSF's worthless baseball card collection (http://www.joesportsfan.com/CardCollection.html)
Man alot of those reminds me of collecting cards when I was a kid.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Venerable Bede on August 11, 2006, 01:43:00 pm
lots of baseball card articles the past few weeks.  page 2 did an article day a week ago or so, and there was another article in the chronicle yesterday.
 
 then, there's this page- http://baseballcardblog.blogspot.com/ (http://baseballcardblog.blogspot.com/)
 
 of course, i still collect cards.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on August 11, 2006, 01:44:00 pm
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Originally posted by Buck Satan:
 Man alot of those reminds me of collecting cards when I was a kid.
yeah, i remember a lot of those cards specifically ... 86-87 was when i got started, they're still sitting in my parents' house somewhere
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on August 11, 2006, 01:45:00 pm
Bob Walk is untouchable.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Venerable Bede on August 11, 2006, 02:07:00 pm
but let's not forget that the pirates used to use a blind closer (even though he did have the awesome 1970s/1980s stirrups)-
 
   <img src="http://i24.ebayimg.com/02/i/06/72/9f/c7_2.JPG" alt=" - " />
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on January 31, 2014, 09:34:58 am
new bobblehead schedule

FINALLY i will complete my racing president set with Taft


giddy


http://www.csnwashington.com/baseball-washington-nationals/talk/nats-announce-2014-bobblehead-giveaways?p=ya5nbcs&ocid=yahoo
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on April 04, 2014, 02:47:13 pm
wtf bullshit review is this...YADA get down there and set them straight...that is a homer
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: chaz on April 04, 2014, 02:55:43 pm
wtf bullshit review is this...YADA get down there and set them straight...that is a homer
What's the rules say on this?  Ball was definitely lodged in there but easily retrievable.  Trying the watch the full course of the decision on mlb live, it's a 7 min video that keeps crapping out about 2 min in. 
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on April 04, 2014, 03:00:02 pm
wtf bullshit review is this...YADA get down there and set them straight...that is a homer
What's the rules say on this?  Ball was definitely lodged in there but easily retrievable.  Trying the watch the full course of the decision on mlb live, it's a 7 min video that keeps crapping out about 2 min in. 

so many isssues... was it even reviewable?..... matt williams was so passive.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: chaz on April 04, 2014, 03:03:40 pm
either way I like the order for this inning.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on April 04, 2014, 06:00:39 pm
What's the rules say on this?  Ball was definitely lodged in there but easily retrievable. 

It actually doesn't matter how retrievable it is.  You're looking at 6.09 e & f:

6.09
The batter becomes a runner when --
(e) A fair ball, after touching the ground, bounds into the stands, or passes through, over or under a fence, or through or under a scoreboard, or through or under shrubbery, or vines on the fence, in which case the batter and the runners shall be entitled to advance two bases;
(f) Any fair ball which, either before or after touching the ground, passes through or under a fence, or through or under a scoreboard, or through any opening in the fence or scoreboard, or through or under shrubbery, or vines on the fence, or which sticks in a fence or scoreboard, in which case the batter and the runners shall be entitled to two bases;

And 7.09(f) Two bases, if a fair ball bounces or is deflected into the stands outside the first or third base foul lines; or if it goes through or under a field fence, or through or under a scoreboard, or through or under shrubbery or vines on the fence; or if it sticks in such fence, scoreboard, shrubbery or vines;

Once it goes under there, it's a ground rule double.  Upton made it more difficult on himself by actually retrieving it after throwing his hands up - should have always left it there.

Technically, it's called an automatic double, but people have been calling them ground rule doubles for a long time, though technically those only apply to special rules for that particular ground.  They probably should not have reviewed it under the technical rule of ground rule double, but nobody understands the automatic double rule vs ground rule double rule so it's moot.

The call should have been double from the moment the ball went under the fence and Upton threw his hands up.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on April 05, 2014, 12:47:08 am
weird play, but its hard to get worked up over it being "overturned" when thats a pretty commonly cited ground rule, and really shouldnt have gotten to the point of needing to be reviewed anyway. upton not even trying to pick it up was kinda strange, but it is what it is. tough break.

lots of questionable baserunning and that brutal harper at bat in the 8th lost this game

nothing is a must win in april but the nats cannot afford to lose this series
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 06, 2014, 05:24:13 pm
So, Strasburg to the pen and Harper to the pine?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 06, 2014, 06:20:50 pm
So, Strasburg to the pen and Harper to the pine?

being this deep into the season, i think this is the only logical adjustment to make at this point.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on April 06, 2014, 06:34:02 pm
seeing a James Ford post on this thread i really expected something like "Fire the manager!"

oh welll...
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on April 06, 2014, 07:16:51 pm
The only doctor Ryan Zimmerman should be visiting is Dr. Jack Llewellyn.  Everything else is smoke and mirrors.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on April 09, 2014, 09:48:56 am
Anthony Rendon is on fire. He looked great on 3rd last night too.

I hope the beating up on shitty team things translates to being able to duke it out with the heavy hitters. Hopefully it's not like last year where we'd whoop the shit teams and then fall miserably to the big guys.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on April 09, 2014, 11:23:29 am
have really liked Rendon since he first came up.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on April 09, 2014, 12:30:51 pm
have really liked Rendon since he first came up.

I'll just leave this here:

There's an easy fix for the Nats offensive woes - call up Rendon, and have him play second base, like he has been in Double A ball.  He's hitting .350 down there - even if he hits .240 in the bigs, it's .100 points better than Espinosa.

The Nats have a helluva problem when Zimm returns.  Can't sit LaRoche while he's hitting, probably can't move him until the trade deadline, but Zimm has to be a first baseman the rest of his career.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 09, 2014, 12:37:07 pm
agree completely.  zimm is done at third.  i'm perplexed at his issues... high school third basemen have less issues in the field than he's having.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on April 09, 2014, 12:52:31 pm
agree completely.  zimm is done at third.  i'm perplexed at his issues... high school third basemen have less issues in the field than he's having.

Focal Dystonia.

Haven't seen a case this bad since Knoblauch (not counting Ankiel because he was a pitcher).
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on April 09, 2014, 01:52:41 pm
agree completely.  zimm is done at third.  i'm perplexed at his issues... high school third basemen have less issues in the field than he's having.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/10748667/ryan-zimmerman-washington-nationals-play-some-first-base-due-arthritic-shoulder

It got real bad last year. Maybe Rendon being out there got to him too? I'd like to imagine that didn't rattle him. I'd have no problem with him moving to 3rd. He could play at 1st every couple of games. LaRoche and Rendon are kind of carrying the team offensively right now.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 09, 2014, 01:54:19 pm
yeah nice to see adam showed up this year in april instead of his typical late-May emergence.

booked a trip to chicago to catch nats/cubs in June.  pretty stoked.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: chaz on April 09, 2014, 02:01:24 pm
agree completely.  zimm is done at third.  i'm perplexed at his issues... high school third basemen have less issues in the field than he's having.

Focal Dystonia.

Haven't seen a case this bad since Knoblauch (not counting Ankiel because he was a pitcher).

Have you read The Art of Fielding?  Although I thought it borrowed too heavily from A Prayer for Owen Meany, it's a good read in which the protagonist, a college shortstop poised for the majors, deals with a nasty case of this.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 09, 2014, 02:13:08 pm
Isn't this a contract year for LaRoche?

yeah nice to see adam showed up this year in april instead of his typical late-May emergence.

booked a trip to chicago to catch nats/cubs in June.  pretty stoked.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 09, 2014, 02:15:22 pm
Isn't this a contract year for LaRoche?

yeah nice to see adam showed up this year in april instead of his typical late-May emergence.

booked a trip to chicago to catch nats/cubs in June.  pretty stoked.

yes. might have an option for a third year, but regardless, he's a free agent the end of this season.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on April 09, 2014, 02:17:21 pm
laroche has a mutual option for next year

i think it goes without saying that he wont be back

itll be a shame if he keeps hitting like this all year, but its clear where zim is headed
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on April 09, 2014, 02:21:43 pm

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/10748667/ryan-zimmerman-washington-nationals-play-some-first-base-due-arthritic-shoulder

It got real bad last year.

I'm not buying the arthritis.  His offensive numbers have been fairly consistent, which would be hard to do with a roughed up shoulder.  And he's still gloving above average - I read yesterday that he made something like 21 errors last season, which wasn't too high for a third baseman - especially one with above average range, but the problem was that the majority of his errors were throwing errors on routine plays.

yeah nice to see adam showed up this year in april instead of his typical late-May emergence.

Must be a contact year...

Have you read The Art of Fielding? 

I have not, but will add it to my list.  Thanks!
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: sweetcell on April 09, 2014, 02:39:02 pm
Intentional walks: Where to eat and drink near Nationals Park
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/going-out-guide/wp/2014/04/03/intentional-walks-where-to-eat-and-drink-near-nationals-park/

apologies if this has already been posted.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on April 09, 2014, 03:06:52 pm
agree completely.  zimm is done at third.  i'm perplexed at his issues... high school third basemen have less issues in the field than he's having.

Focal Dystonia.

Haven't seen a case this bad since Knoblauch (not counting Ankiel because he was a pitcher).

Have you read The Art of Fielding?  Although I thought it borrowed too heavily from A Prayer for Owen Meany, it's a good read in which the protagonist, a college shortstop poised for the majors, deals with a nasty case of this.

I love this book for the first three quarters of it. I thought the ending was absolutely bizarre, albeit I'm referring not so much the actual baseball plot, but the bizarre grave-robbery b-story. I do still highly recommended however.

Full disclosure: I am an associate of the author.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: HoyaSaxa03 on April 10, 2014, 01:42:09 am
Rendon is the truth. Zimm is completely done at 3B.

This much is obvious, but when people talk about this I feel like they gloss over how much Zimm has meant to this franchise. Given his past exploits and hitting potential over the next 5 years, Zimm is underpaid at 11/$135MM, and the Nats need to clear room for him at 1B.

LaRoche has become a veteran leader, but Werth and Zimm will fill that void. Wait until LaRoche's trade value is the highest and deal him.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on April 11, 2014, 01:45:33 pm
It's all about the beards.

Ha ha, the Marlins. It was cute. Looks like another year of punishment for them. Sweeping the lowly Mets and Fish? Losing 2 of 3 to the Barves? Hopefully not a preview of what I feared, pummeling crap teams, losing to good teams.

Just a couple series in and 2 sweeps is great regardless of teams.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on April 12, 2014, 11:35:03 pm
Heard Zim broke his thumb.  Out 4-6 weeks.  Bummer.

But he does have time to think about his throws.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on April 12, 2014, 11:48:09 pm
Heard Zim broke his thumb.  Out 4-6 weeks.  Bummer.

But he does have time to think about his throws.

not looking good for zim these days..
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on April 14, 2014, 09:52:19 am
Not really mad at Rendon getting [probably] every day at 3rd. I am looking forward to Nats letting their frustrations out on the Marlins over this series. Big one heading into the series against the Cards and Angels. We looked down right comedic out there yesterday against the Barves. I had to turn it off.... to watch the Caps get shut out in their finale. smh.

At least we have the Wizards?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on April 14, 2014, 12:32:12 pm
Big one heading into the series against the Cards and Angels.

I appreciate you putting Anaheim in the same conversation as the Cards, but the Angels are barely a .500 team and we really won't know much about the true grit of this team until after this three game set against Oakland.

You all should buy tickets to the Anaheim series however, just to see Mike Trout play.  Some O's fans ignored me last year and all he did was make that catch in front of the Southwest Airlines sign that I'm sure you've all seen.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on April 14, 2014, 02:22:28 pm
I meant more so because the Marlins are terrible and it's big heading into non NL East series'. I hate every team in our division. So much.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: emmanuel on April 14, 2014, 02:28:43 pm
GIVE US BACK the EXPOS.

I am still sad  :'(
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on April 14, 2014, 02:40:40 pm
GIVE US BACK the EXPOS.

I am still sad  :'(

I think you should take the A's or the Rays.  I'd prefer it be the Rays, mind you, but the A's deserve better than what they've been getting too.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Hexenjagd on April 14, 2014, 03:44:56 pm
We looked down right comedic out there yesterday against the Barves.
Oh cool, I didn't realize you were a professional baseball player! I learn something new everyday!

(joke by the way, if you could not tell.  I just find it funny when fans speak like they are part of the team)

But a related question, do you sports fans also refer to bands in a similar manner?  As in, "I went to see the Arcade Fire last night and we really rocked the house!"
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 14, 2014, 04:07:48 pm
If it makes you feel better, this is a pet peeve of mine as well. It's funny that people who probably make regular dough sometimes act as if they are part of a sports team whose members make millions of dollars for playing a childs game.

We looked down right comedic out there yesterday against the Barves.
Oh cool, I didn't realize you were a professional baseball player! I learn something new everyday!

(joke by the way, if you could not tell.  I just find it funny when fans speak like they are part of the team)

But a related question, do you sports fans also refer to bands in a similar manner?  As in, "I went to see the Arcade Fire last night and we really rocked the house!"
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on April 14, 2014, 04:10:09 pm
We looked down right comedic out there yesterday against the Barves.
Oh cool, I didn't realize you were a professional baseball player! I learn something new everyday!

(joke by the way, if you could not tell.  I just find it funny when fans speak like they are part of the team)

But a related question, do you sports fans also refer to bands in a similar manner?  As in, "I went to see the Arcade Fire last night and we really rocked the house!"
Yes.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on April 14, 2014, 04:10:58 pm
This is something of a pet peeve of mine as well, although I do catch myself doing it from time to time. Side question: does it feel more acceptable to you guys if someone does it about a college team and they're an alumni of that college? I love my Red Wings and my Wolverines, but it feels less cringe worthy if I referred to a Michigan team as we as opposed to the Red Wings or The Tigers. Thoughts?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 14, 2014, 04:14:40 pm
I graduated from college 24 years ago, I stopped referring to anything pertaining to the college as "we" when I graduated.



This is something of a pet peeve of mine as well, although I do catch myself doing it from time to time. Side question: does it feel more acceptable to you guys if someone does it about a college team and they're an alumni of that college? I love my Red Wings and my Wolverines, but it feels less cringe worthy if I referred to a Michigan team as we as opposed to the Red Wings or The Tigers. Thoughts?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on April 14, 2014, 04:44:17 pm
I graduated from college 24 years ago, I stopped referring to anything pertaining to the college as "we" when I graduated.



This is something of a pet peeve of mine as well, although I do catch myself doing it from time to time. Side question: does it feel more acceptable to you guys if someone does it about a college team and they're an alumni of that college? I love my Red Wings and my Wolverines, but it feels less cringe worthy if I referred to a Michigan team as we as opposed to the Red Wings or The Tigers. Thoughts?
Cool
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: ggw on April 14, 2014, 04:50:34 pm
Does SUNY-Fredonia even have sports teams?

I graduated from college 24 years ago, I stopped referring to anything pertaining to the college as "we" when I graduated.



This is something of a pet peeve of mine as well, although I do catch myself doing it from time to time. Side question: does it feel more acceptable to you guys if someone does it about a college team and they're an alumni of that college? I love my Red Wings and my Wolverines, but it feels less cringe worthy if I referred to a Michigan team as we as opposed to the Red Wings or The Tigers. Thoughts?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on April 14, 2014, 04:52:31 pm
Does SUNY-Fredonia even have sports teams?

I graduated from college 24 years ago, I stopped referring to anything pertaining to the college as "we" when I graduated.



This is something of a pet peeve of mine as well, although I do catch myself doing it from time to time. Side question: does it feel more acceptable to you guys if someone does it about a college team and they're an alumni of that college? I love my Red Wings and my Wolverines, but it feels less cringe worthy if I referred to a Michigan team as we as opposed to the Red Wings or The Tigers. Thoughts?
They do, actually. They're DIII I think.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 14, 2014, 05:11:39 pm
University at Albany.
Apparently they've made the NCAA tourney four of the last nine years.

Does SUNY-Fredonia even have sports teams?

I graduated from college 24 years ago, I stopped referring to anything pertaining to the college as "we" when I graduated.



This is something of a pet peeve of mine as well, although I do catch myself doing it from time to time. Side question: does it feel more acceptable to you guys if someone does it about a college team and they're an alumni of that college? I love my Red Wings and my Wolverines, but it feels less cringe worthy if I referred to a Michigan team as we as opposed to the Red Wings or The Tigers. Thoughts?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on April 14, 2014, 05:16:18 pm
University at Albany.
Apparently they've made the NCAA tourney four of the last nine years.

Does SUNY-Fredonia even have sports teams?

I graduated from college 24 years ago, I stopped referring to anything pertaining to the college as "we" when I graduated.



This is something of a pet peeve of mine as well, although I do catch myself doing it from time to time. Side question: does it feel more acceptable to you guys if someone does it about a college team and they're an alumni of that college? I love my Red Wings and my Wolverines, but it feels less cringe worthy if I referred to a Michigan team as we as opposed to the Red Wings or The Tigers. Thoughts?
Their, um, "interesting" jersey design was quite the talk of the first week of the tourney.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on April 16, 2014, 11:46:34 am

You all should buy tickets to the Anaheim series however, just to see Mike Trout play.  Some O's fans ignored me last year and all he did was make that catch in front of the Southwest Airlines sign that I'm sure you've all seen.

And don't be LA Fashionably Late either....

2.110 - That's Mike Trout's OPS in the first inning this season. He's 7-for-13, with four homers. There are rival evaluators who say that they will make a point to see all of his plate appearances in every game because they fret about what they might miss.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on April 18, 2014, 09:59:51 am
Headed to the game tonight. After last nights mess I don't know how excited I am. Even with Gio on the mound. SOMEONE needs to be the stopper. In 2012 is was Stras, in 2013 it was no one. Seeing the defense struggle is just amazingly frustrating. Not to mention the offense going quietly inning after inning.

Really don't want this to be a repeat of last year.... Kept saying "It's early, there's time" and then we got into June/July/August..... Uy. Still.... Very early.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on April 18, 2014, 01:45:30 pm
You can't win the division in April, but you can lose it (ask any Anaheim fan about the last two April's).  And the Nats are no where near losing it right now.

They have to play better defense though.  Last night was comedic, but despite 4 errors, 6 of the 8 runs were still earned.  That's a problem you can't solely blame on defense.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 18, 2014, 01:55:42 pm
yeah, and you're seeing wacha vs. gio... on a friday night.

a 9-7 nats team who flops in one game against one of the leagues best in april really doesn't mean anything. 
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on April 18, 2014, 03:43:16 pm
It just gives me awful flashbacks to last year when all we heard was "it's early, it's a long season" and then we're chasing the Barves all season. I'm not in full on panic mode, but they are frustrating to watch. Lost 5 of the last 7.

Hopefully they can brush that all off with the thick of the pitching rotation coming up this weekend.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 18, 2014, 03:47:17 pm
So what position do you play, pitcher or catcher?

It just gives me awful flashbacks to last year when all we heard was "it's early, it's a long season" and then we're chasing the Barves all season. I'm not in full on panic mode, but they are frustrating to watch. Lost 5 of the last 7.

Hopefully they can brush that all off with the thick of the pitching rotation coming up this weekend.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on April 21, 2014, 07:53:54 am
'I sat with him for a couple of minutes in his locker and told him I'm confident in him and I'm proud of him and he was going to have impact today, which he did,'' Williams said.

Harper had a somewhat different take on the conversation with Williams, as far as length goes.

''He just said, 'Go get 'em.' That's the three words he said,'' Harper said. ''It's good to get back out there and play and be part of a win.''
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on April 21, 2014, 08:57:05 am
not sure how i feel about the harper benching

on one hand, it certainly sends a strong message (and one davey would never have sent) to never give up. as frustrating as the nats have been at times this season, theyve shown far more drive to come from behind whereas last year theyd fold the second they fall behind. of course itd be nice if the team wrent always in the position to need to come back by the second inning, but thats another issue.

on the other hand, i know harper had had some slight leg issues this week so i have a hard time faulting him for not going 110% on a soft grounder to the pitcher. anything can happen at any time sure, but if ever there was a play to save some energy, thats the one. the guy cant win: he plays too hard and hurts himself and he gets ripped apart by the media, he takes it easy from time to time and he gets ripped apart by his coaches.

im not gonna jump on the bryce is a diva train (anyone read boswell's scathing piece this weekend? ouch) but i do think there are times he needs reminded that hes a good player who hasnt yet become a great one. not sure if this was the right way to go about that, but i like that williams is willing to make a statement like that

now if the pitching staff could wake up and take some pressure off the bats, theyd be in good shape, even with all the errors.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on April 21, 2014, 10:21:43 am
Up and down series against the Cards. At least the 2nd loss wasn't horrific.

I feel like Williams has gone through such a crazy season and he's only 20 or so games in hahaha
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on April 21, 2014, 11:03:59 am
You all should buy tickets to the Anaheim series however, just to see Mike Trout play.  Some O's fans ignored me last year and all he did was make that catch in front of the Southwest Airlines sign that I'm sure you've all seen.

Guilty.  I was in the upper level walking to my seat.  Caught it on the monitor.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on April 21, 2014, 12:37:12 pm
I like the way Anaheim is going to match up with the Nats this week.

Richards has been the Angels most consistent starter (finally) and could be a star in the making.

I also like Skaggs in the battle of the youngsters over Jordan.

I think Gio beats Weaver.  He's lost his command and you can't win throwing 85 mph if you don't hit your target.

Of course, when the Angels bullpen has to come in the game, all bets are off.

So I'll take the Angels in the first 7 innings of 2 out of 3 this week.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 21, 2014, 12:42:56 pm
does richards really have that potential?

i picked him up last week in my keeper league.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on April 21, 2014, 01:08:00 pm
does richards really have that potential?

i picked him up last week in my keeper league.

Yes.  When they asked all the Angels pitchers who had the nastiest stuff, it was unanimous: Garrett Richards.

He's had command issues, but part of that was the Angels doing.  They kept moving him around from starter to the pen, but finally decided last August that it was time to keep him in the rotation for good.

He had a great spring, has given up one extra base hit all season and that led to one bad inning against Oakland.  I've been very impressed at what he's done since they've decided to keep him in the rotation.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on April 21, 2014, 01:39:19 pm
not sure how i feel about the harper benching

"Andrew McCutchen was benched once for a similar transgression. He went to Clint Hurdle and acknowledged that he blew it, took his punishment and moved on and speaks openly to this day about how he made a mistake."
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on April 21, 2014, 04:19:38 pm
not sure how i feel about the harper benching

"Andrew McCutchen was benched once for a similar transgression. He went to Clint Hurdle and acknowledged that he blew it, took his punishment and moved on and speaks openly to this day about how he made a mistake."

do you see Bryce doing that?


Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on April 21, 2014, 04:49:26 pm
do you see Bryce doing that?

He had his chance, and didn't. (http://m.mlb.com/video/v32222321/stlwsh-harper-on-being-removed-from-the-ballgame/?c_id=mlb)
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on April 21, 2014, 05:56:36 pm
Exactly.

Bryce Harper seems like such an a-hole..

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/04/21/bryce-harper-accused-of-begging-out-of-a-game-to-avoid-jose-fernandez-to-preserve-a-hitting-streak/?ocid=Yahoo&partner=ya5nbcs

of course everyone loves him.... makes you think..

such different standards...
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 21, 2014, 10:30:02 pm
does richards really have that potential?

i picked him up last week in my keeper league.

Yes.  When they asked all the Angels pitchers who had the nastiest stuff, it was unanimous: Garrett Richards.

He's had command issues, but part of that was the Angels doing.  They kept moving him around from starter to the pen, but finally decided last August that it was time to keep him in the rotation for good.

He had a great spring, has given up one extra base hit all season and that led to one bad inning against Oakland.  I've been very impressed at what he's done since they've decided to keep him in the rotation.

walks aside, another impressive outting...
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 21, 2014, 10:30:36 pm
Exactly.

Bryce Harper seems like such an a-hole..

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/04/21/bryce-harper-accused-of-begging-out-of-a-game-to-avoid-jose-fernandez-to-preserve-a-hitting-streak/?ocid=Yahoo&partner=ya5nbcs

of course everyone loves him.... makes you think..

such different standards...

bos continuing to be the best sports reporter at the wapo, by a long shot.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on April 21, 2014, 11:50:40 pm
walks aside, another impressive outting...

Yep.  Only one hard hit ball against him, and he was thrown out stretching it to two.  But boy when he lost his release point in the 4th it was ugly.  Really ugly.  He can thank Pujols for getting him out of it with only one run given up.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on April 22, 2014, 12:48:35 am
By the time I wake, someone needs to answer why there were three lefties in the pen and Clippard faced Ibanez.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on April 22, 2014, 09:36:52 am
By the time I wake, someone needs to answer why there were three lefties in the pen and Clippard faced Ibanez.
I read somewhere, might have been from post game conference, that Clip was their "8th inning guy". smh.

Supposed to be headed out to the park tonight, heard it's supposed to be raining though.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 22, 2014, 11:29:00 am
walks aside, another impressive outting...

Yep.  Only one hard hit ball against him, and he was thrown out stretching it to two.  But boy when he lost his release point in the 4th it was ugly.  Really ugly.  He can thank Pujols for getting him out of it with only one run given up.

is it too early to claim pujols is back?  sure seems like it. did he have a legit stolen base last night, or was that a free pass?

sadly i haven't been able to watch any baseball so i rely on what i read... the west coast time and lack of TV is killing me. 

Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on April 22, 2014, 12:00:18 pm
i'm cancelling cable after the world cup

i just got a bill from verizon fios for $212!!!!!!!!!!!! my "valued customer" shit ran out and now i being jacked.. i called direct tv and they flat out lied to me about the cost....i can't do comcast cause everyone hates them so see no options

all we need is a phone and internet.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on April 22, 2014, 02:34:43 pm


is it too early to claim pujols is back?  sure seems like it. did he have a legit stolen base last night, or was that a free pass?

sadly i haven't been able to watch any baseball so i rely on what i read... the west coast time and lack of TV is killing me. 


Yes, it's too early, but he's looking damn good.  And so was Hamilton before he dove into first base.  The stolen base was a smart play - after three straight pitches without being checked by the pitcher, Pujols got a great jump and legitimately stole it, beating the throw. I call that a veteran stolen base.

I listen to a lot of baseball on the "radio" since I moved back to the west coast, and really have enjoyed it.  In the car, on public transportation, sitting in the park - reminds me of being a kid before every game was on TV.  My MLB.TV subscription is equal parts streaking video and streaming radio.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 22, 2014, 03:18:42 pm
Sorry to further hijack the thread, but let me ask...

My wife is always saying we could be getting cable on top of phone and internet for less than we pay for phone and internet. I'm guessing you have to agree to a certain amount of time (and no less) and at some point (during or thereafter?) your rates go sky high, right?


i'm cancelling cable after the world cup

i just got a bill from verizon fios for $212!!!!!!!!!!!! my "valued customer" shit ran out and now i being jacked.. i called direct tv and they flat out lied to me about the cost....i can't do comcast cause everyone hates them so see no options

all we need is a phone and internet.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on April 22, 2014, 03:36:09 pm
Sorry to further hijack the thread, but let me ask...

My wife is always saying we could be getting cable on top of phone and internet for less than we pay for phone and internet. I'm guessing you have to agree to a certain amount of time (and no less) and at some point (during or thereafter?) your rates go sky high, right?
Call your provider up and tell them you'd like to cancel because your bill got so high. In my experience, your price will go right back to what it was. TV/Internet/Phone prices are entirely negotiable.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: chaz on April 22, 2014, 04:07:26 pm
Sorry to further hijack the thread, but let me ask...

My wife is always saying we could be getting cable on top of phone and internet for less than we pay for phone and internet. I'm guessing you have to agree to a certain amount of time (and no less) and at some point (during or thereafter?) your rates go sky high, right?
Call your provider up and tell them you'd like to cancel because your bill got so high. In my experience, your price will go right back to what it was. TV/Internet/Phone prices are entirely negotiable.
Yes my bill right now is under 100 bucks for fios internet, a dvr, another hd box, and pretty much everything besides hbo showtime etc.

I call a few times a year to reduce services or cancel, and they ALWAYS giving me a discount or something for free.

I just did this again a few weeks ago.  I was going to quit for good this time, no tv but keep the internet, but the tv stuff ended up costing only like 10 or 20 bucks above what I'd be paying for internet alone, so i kept it.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 22, 2014, 04:28:46 pm
Don't tell my wife this. Cable would only add incentive to have the tv on more, which I don't want. Of course lacking cable, she also goes and buys the programs (e.g. Mad Men) and watches them the next day, instead of waiting for them to come to Netflix. So we may not be saving any money anyway. Not only does she lack cable, she lacks patience. But she insists that she "needs to be part of the cultural zeitgeist". Whatever the hell that is.

Also, how do I get my daughter to have a different favorite player other than Bryce Harper?


Sorry to further hijack the thread, but let me ask...

My wife is always saying we could be getting cable on top of phone and internet for less than we pay for phone and internet. I'm guessing you have to agree to a certain amount of time (and no less) and at some point (during or thereafter?) your rates go sky high, right?
Call your provider up and tell them you'd like to cancel because your bill got so high. In my experience, your price will go right back to what it was. TV/Internet/Phone prices are entirely negotiable.
Yes my bill right now is under 100 bucks for fios internet, a dvr, another hd box, and pretty much everything besides hbo showtime etc.

I call a few times a year to reduce services or cancel, and they ALWAYS giving me a discount or something for free.

I just did this again a few weeks ago.  I was going to quit for good this time, no tv but keep the internet, but the tv stuff ended up costing only like 10 or 20 bucks above what I'd be paying for internet alone, so i kept it.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on April 22, 2014, 04:33:41 pm
Don't tell my wife this. Cable would only add incentive to have the tv on more, which I don't want. Of course lacking cable, she also goes and buys the programs (e.g. Mad Men) and watches them the next day, instead of waiting for them to come to Netflix. So we may not be saving any money anyway. Not only does she lack cable, she lacks patience. But she insists that she "needs to be part of the cultural zeitgeist". Whatever the hell that is.

Also, how do I get my daughter to have a different favorite player other than Bryce Harper?


Sorry to further hijack the thread, but let me ask...

My wife is always saying we could be getting cable on top of phone and internet for less than we pay for phone and internet. I'm guessing you have to agree to a certain amount of time (and no less) and at some point (during or thereafter?) your rates go sky high, right?
Call your provider up and tell them you'd like to cancel because your bill got so high. In my experience, your price will go right back to what it was. TV/Internet/Phone prices are entirely negotiable.
Yes my bill right now is under 100 bucks for fios internet, a dvr, another hd box, and pretty much everything besides hbo showtime etc.

I call a few times a year to reduce services or cancel, and they ALWAYS giving me a discount or something for free.

I just did this again a few weeks ago.  I was going to quit for good this time, no tv but keep the internet, but the tv stuff ended up costing only like 10 or 20 bucks above what I'd be paying for internet alone, so i kept it.
She actually says the zeitgeist thing and watches Mad Men? Oh, God, I think I could be friends with Celeste. What is happening to me??!
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on April 22, 2014, 04:39:42 pm
Sorry to further hijack the thread, but let me ask...

My wife is always saying we could be getting cable on top of phone and internet for less than we pay for phone and internet. I'm guessing you have to agree to a certain amount of time (and no less) and at some point (during or thereafter?) your rates go sky high, right?
Call your provider up and tell them you'd like to cancel because your bill got so high. In my experience, your price will go right back to what it was. TV/Internet/Phone prices are entirely negotiable.
We swithced from DirecTV to Cox and DirecTV offered us a lower price AND premium movie channels so we switched back. Although somehow we lost NBC Sports which sucks because they have hockey games on there. Outside of that it was fine. I still watch almost all of my TV on my laptop.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on April 22, 2014, 08:46:23 pm
I know Hoya was there for that moment of history.  Anyone else?

Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 22, 2014, 08:59:21 pm
I know Hoya was there for that moment of history.  Anyone else?

i'll never forget where i was when i received my mobile alert
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on April 22, 2014, 09:17:07 pm
Sorry to further hijack the thread, but let me ask...

My wife is always saying we could be getting cable on top of phone and internet for less than we pay for phone and internet. I'm guessing you have to agree to a certain amount of time (and no less) and at some point (during or thereafter?) your rates go sky high, right?
Call your provider up and tell them you'd like to cancel because your bill got so high. In my experience, your price will go right back to what it was. TV/Internet/Phone prices are entirely negotiable.

that is what happened..i called again tonight threatening to cancel and i did pretty good in the end..

Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on April 23, 2014, 11:40:16 am
Didn't go to the game. Glad I didn't. I got to the bar in the top of the 1st with 1 out and it was already 3-0. Didn't seem to work out the rest of the game.

Maybe this is the real Nationals?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: chaz on April 23, 2014, 11:59:15 am
Starting to feel like last season.  Pretty decent start out of the gate, soon an inability to compete with actual contenders is revealed.  Sprinkle in the occasional meltdown blowout loss....

They have more injuries than at this point than last year, and the bullpen has been better.  The starters, and the gloves, not so much.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 23, 2014, 12:19:42 pm
Don't whine too much. Could be worse. Like being an O's fan.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on April 23, 2014, 12:34:35 pm
They'll win tonight.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 23, 2014, 12:54:36 pm
Don't whine too much. Could be worse. Like being an O's fan.

this is the nats thread, take your rational thoughts elsewhere.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on April 23, 2014, 01:04:51 pm
Didn't go to the game. Glad I didn't.

I hear you man.  26 people in the history of baseball have done what was witnessed last night - why even bother if it's so damn frequent!

13 Natural Cycles
15 unassisted triple plays
23 Perfect Games
26 Hit 500 Homeruns
282 no-hitters
304 hit for the cycle 

But F-that if my team doesn't win (which by the way, happened 86 times last year).
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on April 23, 2014, 01:11:07 pm
Didn't go to the game. Glad I didn't.

I hear you man.  26 people in the history of baseball have done what was witnessed last night - why even bother if it's so damn frequent!

13 Natural Cycles
15 unassisted triple plays
23 Perfect Games
26 Hit 500 Homeruns
282 no-hitters
304 hit for the cycle 

But F-that if my team doesn't win (which by the way, happened 86 times last year).

I don't know if this comparison is entirely valid....he didn't hit 500 home runs yesterday just 2 which happened to be 499 and 500... but seeing a no hitter is way cooler in my book....i remember one time the nats pitcher (this was at rfk) took a no hitter to the 9th inning and then imploded..

i hope my cards friend was there last night.....i don't know..i just ccan't get into pujols cause i'm pretty convinced one day we'll find out what we don't want to find out... his numbers are just unnatural..
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on April 23, 2014, 01:21:55 pm
What makes a cycle "natural"? In order from single to HR?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: radley17 on April 23, 2014, 01:41:38 pm
What makes a cycle "natural"? In order from single to HR?

It doesn't bounce, it jiggles.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: chaz on April 23, 2014, 01:43:27 pm
Don't whine too much. Could be worse. Like being an O's fan.

this is the nats thread, take your rational thoughts elsewhere.
is anyone being irrational?  sure didn't seem like it, at least not in the last page or so
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on April 23, 2014, 02:00:06 pm
What makes a cycle "natural"? In order from single to HR?

Yes. Single, double, triple, HR in that order.  I don't find it very "natural" (nor did I make up the term), but that's the popular name for it. 
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on April 23, 2014, 02:09:33 pm
the natural cycle concept is retarded...who cares what order they do it in? its not as if they were intentionally doing it that way..

now if someone said before the game "i'm going to hit a natural cycle" ....and did it..
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 23, 2014, 02:10:17 pm
Don't whine too much. Could be worse. Like being an O's fan.

this is the nats thread, take your rational thoughts elsewhere.
is anyone being irrational?  sure didn't seem like it, at least not in the last page or so

referring to james ford track record of being an irrational baseball fan. 
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on April 23, 2014, 02:24:58 pm
the natural cycle concept is retarded...who cares what order they do it in? its not as if they were intentionally doing it that way..

now if someone said before the game "i'm going to hit a natural cycle" ....and did it..
Yeah, I give no special credit to a natural cycle vs hitting for the cycle out of order. To be honest, I always thought hitting for the cycle is more of a statistical anomaly than an actual accomplishment.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on April 23, 2014, 02:25:26 pm
Didn't go to the game. Glad I didn't.

I hear you man.  26 people in the history of baseball have done what was witnessed last night - why even bother if it's so damn frequent!

13 Natural Cycles
15 unassisted triple plays
23 Perfect Games
26 Hit 500 Homeruns
282 no-hitters
304 hit for the cycle 

But F-that if my team doesn't win (which by the way, happened 86 times last year).
Pretty much.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on April 23, 2014, 02:27:51 pm
the natural cycle concept is retarded...who cares what order they do it in? its not as if they were intentionally doing it that way..



I agree, but it's a very rare feat always discussed among the most rare accomplishments, like 2 Grand Slams in one game (13).

now if someone said before the game "i'm going to hit a natural cycle" ....and did it..

Pujols told teammates hours before Tuesday night?s 7-2 victory over the Washington Nationals that this was going to be the night.

?He said he was going to hit two homers and drive in five runs,? Erick Aybar said.

(in the interview after the game, Pujols admitted that he also said he was going to go 4-4, with 2 HRs and 5 RBI, and apologized for only going 2-4, but was happy to get the win nonetheless)
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on April 23, 2014, 02:29:45 pm
I think there's less enthusiasm for the 500 homerun Mark since the number of people who've done it has nearly doubled in our lifetime. There's what: 12 people to get in since 2000, outta 26 all time? Not saying it's not an accomplishment but like a lot of HR marks, steroids has made it lose some luster. I couldn't tell you the last guy to reach 500 before Pujols without looking it up. It feels like one of those things that's a much bigger deal if it's one of "your guys."
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on April 23, 2014, 04:55:09 pm
I think there's less enthusiasm for the 500 homerun Mark since the number of people who've done it has nearly doubled in our lifetime.

I don't disagree with this, but I'm sure it was more exciting than whatever was happening on a Tuesday night at the bar Deathfromabove was hanging out in.

 
It feels like one of those things that's a much bigger deal if it's one of "your guys."

Obviously, I'm not a casual baseball fan.  I watch more than just my team (I actually had the Braves-Marlins game on in my office this morning and am listening to Tex-Oak right now), and have a text chain of baseball fans where we let the others know when something unusual is happening (no-hitters through 6, chances at cycle, etc.).  I go out of my way to see milestones (I saw Palmiero's 300th and 400th, the 3000th hits of Palmiero and Brett, and Reggie's 500th).  I get pretty fired up fir this stuff whether it's my guy or not.

I've seen a number of one hitters in person, and agree with Hutch, that no-hitters are pretty damn exciting.  The most frustrating one for me was where Mark Kotsay lead of the game with a double, and John Lackey retired the next 27 guys.  Really?  One batter from a perfect game, and you don't even get to enjoy the excitement?  Orlando Cabrera snapped a 63 game reaching base safely streak that night too - at the time like the 5th or 6th longest in history or something.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 23, 2014, 09:37:46 pm
i'll never forget witnessing my first (and only) no hitter.

was sitting in fenway on a very cold may evening. my sister, who isn't the biggest baseball fan and was incredibly stoned at that moment, turns to me in the bottom of the 8th inning when it's dead quiet and everyone is on pins and needles and yells "oh wow, the other team has NO hits right now!". 

i'm not of the suspicious type, but in a moment like that... it was just the worst thing you could ever hear.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on April 23, 2014, 10:32:18 pm
Of course, when the Angels bullpen has to come in the game, all bets are off.

So I'll take the Angels in the first 7 innings of 2 out of 3 this week.

They'll win tonight.

See. 
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on April 24, 2014, 07:46:01 am
Of course, when the Angels bullpen has to come in the game, all bets are off.

So I'll take the Angels in the first 7 innings of 2 out of 3 this week.

They'll win tonight.

See. 

I was thinking of you .. I only turned on the game when it was 4-2 and looking rather drab..then Span got on... Rendon got that great walk and the rest is history..I loved Werth's swing on 3-0... I would not have swung but I'm not a professional ballplayer....
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on April 24, 2014, 10:38:13 am
that was a cool inning. hopefully they get some momentum out of it. there were a bunch of similar wins that should have been a big time catalyst last year but it never happened. a really solid week of baseball (win a few games, but more importantly commit very few errors) right now would go a long way towards easing the tensions of late

love the fact that werth is now the one guy you want in there with the game on the line. hope bryce takes notes every time jayson puts on an at bat like last nights
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: chaz on April 24, 2014, 03:38:31 pm
Nats can't muster the support of much more than 30% of people around here.  I know it's a new team relatively speaking but this is still pretty shocking to me.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/04/24/upshot/facebook-baseball-map.html#5,40.034,-80.567

Its just done by fb likes from that zipcode, wonder how accurate this really even is.

Either way, pretty awesome map.

Here's the full article with more nerdy stuff

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/04/23/upshot/24-upshot-baseball.html
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on April 24, 2014, 05:19:51 pm
the worst is did anyone see how few people stuck around for the comeback win last night? it wasn't even 10:30!!!!!!


Nats fans suck


Orioles fans are ten times better.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on April 24, 2014, 06:33:57 pm
Nats can't muster the support of much more than 30% of people around here.  I know it's a new team relatively speaking but this is still pretty shocking to me.

Oh yeah?  How would you like to be the second most popular team in your own Zip Code despite being there for over 45 years?

The Oakland coliseum zip code is outpaced 2 to 1 by Giants supporters and the neighboring downtown Oakland zip code is 3-1 Giants supporters! 
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Bombay Chutney on April 24, 2014, 06:53:01 pm
the worst is did anyone see how few people stuck around for the comeback win last night? it wasn't even 10:30!!!!!!


Nats fans suck


Orioles fans are ten times better.

There weren't all that many people there to begin with.   I stuck around until the middle of the 9th.  It was 48 degrees, windy, cold and the team was generally playing like shit.  I'm usually there until the bitter end, but when the Angels scored that last run - I was done.  I should have known better, since I've seen them come back plenty of times over the years. 

Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on April 24, 2014, 09:57:55 pm
the worst is did anyone see how few people stuck around for the comeback win last night? it wasn't even 10:30!!!!!!


Nats fans suck


Orioles fans are ten times better.

There weren't all that many people there to begin with.   I stuck around until the middle of the 9th.  It was 48 degrees, windy, cold and the team was generally playing like shit.  I'm usually there until the bitter end, but when the Angels scored that last run - I was done.  I should have known better, since I've seen them come back plenty of times over the years. 



okk...there weren't that many people to see trout! that's even worse. :)


nats win challenge!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on April 26, 2014, 12:02:00 am
 First Giants game of the season.  Morse came out to "Take on Me"... he and his wife also live in the loft above my buddy.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 26, 2014, 03:45:01 pm
First Giants game of the season.  Morse came out to "Take on Me"... he and his wife also live in the loft above my buddy.

if i was in your buddys situation, i would make it a mission to be his best friend.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on April 26, 2014, 04:58:09 pm
if i was in your buddys situation, i would make it a mission to be his best friend.

Totally.  He's huge and his wife is tall as well.  They love him here, mostly because he hasn't gotten hurt yet.   

We had my buddy over in Jan and were sitting by the community fire pit in my building one night when Gregor Blanco and Santiago Casilla came out and hung out with us.  He thought that was the coolest thing until he sees Morse in his building.  Unfortunately, there was a huge fire in my neighborhood and Blanco and Casilla had to move to the building next door, so I guess we'll start hanging out at his place more often.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on April 26, 2014, 05:10:46 pm
We had my buddy over in Jan and were sitting by the community fire pit in my building one night when...
Hopefully one day you can have your own fire pit. :-/
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on April 26, 2014, 08:06:59 pm
Ryan Braun is a dick:

http://teamstre.am/PFxcvp
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on April 26, 2014, 08:07:53 pm
Hopefully one day you can have your own fire pit. :-/

Nope.  I'm a community man,  so shit like that can happen.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on April 27, 2014, 10:51:09 am
so one week ago boswell writes an article ripping bryce apart for not hustilng enough and deserving to get benched, now harper's on the dl for spraining his thumb on a triple and boswell tweets "Baseball teaches every player, thru their UNNECESSARY injuries, how hard is hard enough for them. Harper (DL) needs to listen to the game."

can we make up our mind on whether the kid plays too hard or not hard enough?

harpers thumb injury seemed more of a freak thing than anything else (basically the same as zimmermans, just at a different base) but this mixed message here pisses me off. bryce is obviously still learning but how is he supposed to do that when people like boswell pile on no matter what he does
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on April 27, 2014, 11:46:20 am
so one week ago boswell writes an article ripping bryce apart for not hustilng enough and deserving to get benched, now harper's on the dl for spraining his thumb on a triple and boswell tweets "Baseball teaches every player, thru their UNNECESSARY injuries, how hard is hard enough for them. Harper (DL) needs to listen to the game."

can we make up our mind on whether the kid plays too hard or not hard enough?

harpers thumb injury seemed more of a freak thing than anything else (basically the same as zimmermans, just at a different base) but this mixed message here pisses me off. bryce is obviously still learning but how is he supposed to do that when people like boswell pile on no matter what he does

oh i don't know... hustling when healthy and trying to play through an injury are not exactly the same thing....i guess it can be a fine line...but the hustle playing thing is about specific instances in the game... the thumb thing is a general "kid you had time to think before the game as you took BP or whatever and realize you weren't going to play that well"...

i think if he'd played through the thumb issue and had a great season people would be commending him...its really about knowing your own body......didn't he have an issue like this last year where he tried to play hurt and then had to be out a good while?

sorry for not adding more to this fine conversation on this beautiful sunday
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on April 27, 2014, 12:01:00 pm
what? he injured his thumb during the game, tried to stay in and field, realized he couldnt then came out the next inning. didnt play the next day. it wasnt a case of trying to play through an injury at all. he hurt himself on a play, which is somehow "unnecessary"?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on April 27, 2014, 12:02:20 pm
what? he injured his thumb during the game, tried to stay in and field, realized he could then came out the next inning. didnt play the next day. it wasnt a case of trying to play through an injury at all. he hurt himself on a play, which is somehow "unnecessary"?

well then you're right..boswell is an idiot.

 ;D

Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on April 27, 2014, 12:12:33 pm
The media decided they didn't like Harper before he ever took a major league at-bat. Nothing he does will ever be right. He then followed that up by having the audacity to not be as good as Trout.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on April 27, 2014, 04:10:54 pm
The media decided they didn't like Harper before he ever took a major league at-bat. Nothing he does will ever be right. He then followed that up by having the audacity to not be as good as Trout.

is that what happened?

i think initially the harper coverage was all positive

Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on April 27, 2014, 04:13:45 pm
The media decided they didn't like Harper before he ever took a major league at-bat. Nothing he does will ever be right. He then followed that up by having the audacity to not be as good as Trout.

is that what happened?

i think initially the harper coverage was all positive


All I recall was how he was ruining baseball and figuratively raping children with his ostentatious eye black.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on April 27, 2014, 06:03:49 pm
The media decided they didn't like Harper before he ever took a major league at-bat. Nothing he does will ever be right. He then followed that up by having the audacity to not be as good as Trout.

is that what happened?

i think initially the harper coverage was all positive


All I recall was how he was ruining baseball and figuratively raping children with his ostentatious eye black.

All I recall is how amazing a ballplayer he was already at like 17 or 18 years...not to speak of his tremendous potential...

(Ok I do remember the eyeliner crap but couldnt care less)

The problem with Mr. Harper is he has not delivered on the field.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on April 27, 2014, 06:59:27 pm
There are some that think nobody should slide head first, especially power hitters, as unprotected hands are much more vulnerable than feet with shoes on (and spikes to keep players out of the way) and leg bones are less likely to break than arm bones.  Knees and elbows are equally vulnerable. 

I definitely think you should never slide head first into home or first, and second and third only when absolutely necessary. The only times I ever went head first was diving back to the bag on pick off throws or to avoid double plays.

I think Bowell was being harsh, but also think he can list a few of Harper injuries that could have been avoided, and this one would be on the list for many.

As for the media backlash, they brought it upon themselves.  They hyped him for so long and now he's not meeting their lofty expectations, so that must be his fault.  He's going to be a very good ball player, but he'll be elite when he grows up.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 27, 2014, 11:16:06 pm
so one week ago boswell writes an article ripping bryce apart for not hustilng enough and deserving to get benched, now harper's on the dl for spraining his thumb on a triple and boswell tweets "Baseball teaches every player, thru their UNNECESSARY injuries, how hard is hard enough for them. Harper (DL) needs to listen to the game."

can we make up our mind on whether the kid plays too hard or not hard enough?

harpers thumb injury seemed more of a freak thing than anything else (basically the same as zimmermans, just at a different base) but this mixed message here pisses me off. bryce is obviously still learning but how is he supposed to do that when people like boswell pile on no matter what he does

i'm a bos supporter most times, but you're absolutely right on this one.

he's been carrying a torch and trying to burn down every bit of washington sports since pre-season football last year, good and bad.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on April 28, 2014, 05:48:00 pm
Harper out to early-July, at the earliest, following surgery, per ESPN crawl.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on April 28, 2014, 06:19:07 pm
Harper out to early-July, at the earliest, following surgery, per ESPN crawl.


maybe he can spend the next 2-3 months practicing sliding feet first
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 28, 2014, 07:08:18 pm
What a piece of shit loser.

Harper out to early-July, at the earliest, following surgery, per ESPN crawl.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: eros on April 28, 2014, 07:36:23 pm
Harper out to early-July, at the earliest, following surgery, per ESPN crawl.


maybe he can spend the next 2-3 months practicing sliding feet first

Maybe he can get RG3 to teach him.

http://www.csnwashington.com/sportsnetWashington/search/v/81363264/rg3-thinking-of-asking-harper-for-sliding-advice.htm (http://www.csnwashington.com/sportsnetWashington/search/v/81363264/rg3-thinking-of-asking-harper-for-sliding-advice.htm)
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on April 28, 2014, 07:38:30 pm
Harper out to early-July, at the earliest, following surgery, per ESPN crawl.


maybe he can spend the next 2-3 months practicing sliding feet first

Maybe he can get RG3 to teach him.

http://www.csnwashington.com/sportsnetWashington/search/v/81363264/rg3-thinking-of-asking-harper-for-sliding-advice.htm (http://www.csnwashington.com/sportsnetWashington/search/v/81363264/rg3-thinking-of-asking-harper-for-sliding-advice.htm)

ha...ain't that something...
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 28, 2014, 08:33:29 pm
That, and his religious cult membership.



The problem with Mr. Harper is he has not delivered on the field.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on April 28, 2014, 08:55:54 pm
That, and his religious cult membership.



The problem with Mr. Harper is he has not delivered on the field.
Seriously? LDS? Calling those people a cult, even tongue in cheek, is an insult to anyone who has a family member in an actual cult. Such an idiotic cheap shot.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on April 30, 2014, 11:00:59 am
so one week ago boswell writes an article ripping bryce apart for not hustilng enough and deserving to get benched, now harper's on the dl for spraining his thumb on a triple and boswell tweets "Baseball teaches every player, thru their UNNECESSARY injuries, how hard is hard enough for them. Harper (DL) needs to listen to the game."

can we make up our mind on whether the kid plays too hard or not hard enough?

harpers thumb injury seemed more of a freak thing than anything else (basically the same as zimmermans, just at a different base) but this mixed message here pisses me off. bryce is obviously still learning but how is he supposed to do that when people like boswell pile on no matter what he does
Boswell just wants attention from the 930 Club Boards, lets be honest.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 30, 2014, 11:57:13 am
I guess it depends on how you define "cult".

I define it as a collection of fucked up nut jobs.

Read this book:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Under_the_Banner_of_Heaven

http://www.amazon.com/Under-Banner-Heaven-Story-Violent/dp/1400032806



That, and his religious cult membership.



The problem with Mr. Harper is he has not delivered on the field.
Seriously? LDS? Calling those people a cult, even tongue in cheek, is an insult to anyone who has a family member in an actual cult. Such an idiotic cheap shot.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Yada on April 30, 2014, 12:18:39 pm
That, and his religious cult membership.



The problem with Mr. Harper is he has not delivered on the field.
Seriously? LDS? Calling those people a cult, even tongue in cheek, is an insult to anyone who has a family member in an actual cult. Such an idiotic cheap shot.

Deets on any of your family members in a cult, please?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: ggw on April 30, 2014, 12:43:37 pm
I guess it depends on how you define "cult".

I define it as a collection of fucked up nut jobs.

Read this book:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Under_the_Banner_of_Heaven

http://www.amazon.com/Under-Banner-Heaven-Story-Violent/dp/1400032806



That, and his religious cult membership.



The problem with Mr. Harper is he has not delivered on the field.
Seriously? LDS? Calling those people a cult, even tongue in cheek, is an insult to anyone who has a family member in an actual cult. Such an idiotic cheap shot.

Just like the damn jews.

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/groups/jewish-defense-league

Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: James Ford on April 30, 2014, 12:57:00 pm
I would rank Mormonism as a more fucked up religion than Judaism, but perhaps I haven't read enough in regard to their bullshit.

I guess it depends on how you define "cult".

I define it as a collection of fucked up nut jobs.

Read this book:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Under_the_Banner_of_Heaven

http://www.amazon.com/Under-Banner-Heaven-Story-Violent/dp/1400032806



That, and his religious cult membership.



The problem with Mr. Harper is he has not delivered on the field.
Seriously? LDS? Calling those people a cult, even tongue in cheek, is an insult to anyone who has a family member in an actual cult. Such an idiotic cheap shot.

Just like the damn jews.

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/groups/jewish-defense-league


Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on May 01, 2014, 02:06:22 pm
lombardozzi sent to AAA by the o's

man is that fister trade a weird one in retrospect. its essentially become robbie ray for fister and ray's actually gonna beat fister to a major league start
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on May 01, 2014, 08:52:35 pm
I don't know anything about the minor league kid.

Apparently, Robbie Ray was the "key to the deal. (http://www.freep.com/article/20131203/SPORTS02/312030045/Tigers-lefty-pitching-prospect-Robbie-Ray-key-deal-)"

I guess so. (and I apologize for crossing the streams....)
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on May 05, 2014, 11:56:30 pm
Bunch of sissies in DC.  8:54 here in CA and there's about 200 fans who stuck out the delay and it looks like it's all Dodger fans.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 06, 2014, 08:28:11 am
Somebody please remind me.

I can bring outside food and a bottle of water, but not beer, right? And what about other non-alcoholic drinks, can I bring a soda in from outside?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on May 06, 2014, 08:38:20 am
Bunch of sissies in DC.  8:54 here in CA and there's about 200 fans who stuck out the delay and it looks like it's all Dodger fans.

sissies is too kind... DC has the worst fans.... its somewhat the same with concerts actually..
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 06, 2014, 08:43:00 am
Unlike the rest of the country, people in DC have jobs to go to in the morning.

Bunch of sissies in DC.  8:54 here in CA and there's about 200 fans who stuck out the delay and it looks like it's all Dodger fans.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on May 06, 2014, 10:15:28 am
Somebody please remind me.

I can bring outside food and a bottle of water, but not beer, right? And what about other non-alcoholic drinks, can I bring a soda in from outside?
You can bring 2 unopened bottles of water and a bag of peanuts/chips in. Anything other than that I'm not sure.

I wanted to stay up and watch the game, I was tired as hell. I was surprised they didn't just postpone it for a double header. I was offered free tickets to the game as well.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on May 06, 2014, 08:55:43 pm
I don't know anything about the minor league kid.

Apparently, Robbie Ray was the "key to the deal. (http://www.freep.com/article/20131203/SPORTS02/312030045/Tigers-lefty-pitching-prospect-Robbie-Ray-key-deal-)"

I guess so. (and I apologize for crossing the streams....)

robbie ray... continuing to dominate AAA teams.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on May 06, 2014, 09:00:23 pm
I don't know anything about the minor league kid.

Apparently, Robbie Ray was the "key to the deal. (http://www.freep.com/article/20131203/SPORTS02/312030045/Tigers-lefty-pitching-prospect-Robbie-Ray-key-deal-)"

I guess so. (and I apologize for crossing the streams....)

robbie ray... continuing to dominate AAA teams.
Lol, I was thinking the same. Looking great thru 5.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 07, 2014, 10:34:49 am
Took a half day off on my birthday to go to the Nats matinee, now look at the weather forecast.  :'(

Can't stay for a rain delay because I have to get home and pick up my kid at the normal time...
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on May 07, 2014, 01:29:57 pm
That's a bummer, man.

Was a real shame to see the game end the way it did yesterday. Trienen had a great start considering it was his first. Shame it all kind of unraveled there before he was pulled. Too many errors. Funny how FP mentioned before the game that it had seemed the Nats were getting into a rhythm and not committing as many errors and then they just fumbled around many times throughout the game.

Also a bummer that they scored 3 runs and had the bases loaded in the 8th and couldnt' bring some more guys in.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 15, 2014, 12:15:27 pm
Going to the game Sunday. Anyone have any idea who will be on the mound?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on May 15, 2014, 12:55:25 pm
not that anyone should give a fuck but i am going to the game on saturday..i'm taking my oldest boy (4 and a half)...and we'll see how that goes.. he aint neurotypical... thats my preferred lingo these days...autistic to the world... course he thinks going is about getting a bobblehead but i ain't buying one.. he's into my collection of presidential bobbleheads....i must get taft later this year..

proud to say his first game was season opener in 2010..first pitch by the President....

what a long road its been since then.....if you'd told me i'd be sitting here typing four years later with two young boys on the autism spectrum i would not have even understood what you meant.. life is one crazy ride for sure...
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on May 15, 2014, 01:08:57 pm
Quote from: hutch link=topic=832.msg386740#msg386740
course he thinks going is about getting a bobblehead but i ain't buying one.. he's into my collection of presidential bobbleheads....i must get taft later this year..
I believe Hexenjagd started a comic book/nerd-alert thread and that is where you were attempting to post.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on May 15, 2014, 01:10:59 pm
Quote from: hutch link=topic=832.msg386740#msg386740
course he thinks going is about getting a bobblehead but i ain't buying one.. he's into my collection of presidential bobbleheads....i must get taft later this year..
I believe Hexenjagd started a comic book/nerd-alert thread and that is where you were attempting to post.

oh come now! what self respecting nats fan doesnt want the presidential bobblehead collection in their armoire???

 ;D
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on May 15, 2014, 01:12:41 pm
Grown adults with action figures. You're just euphemizing it.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 15, 2014, 01:27:28 pm
It's funny...my randomly collected bobblehead collection is:

Miguel Tejada
A-Rod
Jason Giambi
Jay Gibbons
Sidney Ponson

Could you randomly get a greater collection of roid-heads and douchebags? I think not.

My daughter and I may go on Ian Desmond bobblehead day. I guess he's a step up from those other guys.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on May 15, 2014, 01:34:52 pm
It's funny...my randomly collected bobblehead collection is:

Miguel Tejada
A-Rod
Jason Giambi
Jay Gibbons
Sidney Ponson

Could you randomly get a greater collection of roid-heads and douchebags? I think not.

My daughter and I may go on Ian Desmond bobblehead day. I guess he's a step up from those other guys.

you need Taft.. he will increase your randomnicity greatly..
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on May 16, 2014, 10:31:59 am
It's funny...my randomly collected bobblehead collection is:

Miguel Tejada
A-Rod
Jason Giambi
Jay Gibbons
Sidney Ponson

Could you randomly get a greater collection of roid-heads and douchebags? I think not.

My daughter and I may go on Ian Desmond bobblehead day. I guess he's a step up from those other guys.
I have Ian Desmond, Gio Gonzalez, Davey Johnson, Ryan Zimmerman, and Tory Brouwer on my book case. I'm going tonight and hoping to get my hands on a Wilson Ramos bobblehead for my birthday! Woo!
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on May 16, 2014, 12:59:52 pm
I only have two - a Cal State Fullerton bobblehead from the 2004 College World Series and of course, this years Trout bobblehead. 

I give the rest away to kids, mostly Giants and A's fans. 
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on May 18, 2014, 10:25:13 am
Gio is fucked and so are we...

Yesterday's game was a bit of a bummer except for watching Bartolo Colon.....he's getting near 200 wins...that ain't nothing..

We had what i thought would be great seats on the first base side...section 130 row gg.. but my son could barely see anything..kind of a bummer.....i guess the third base side is where to be.... i heard another parent saying the same thing to his daughter "well we dont' have to stay the whole game"..

the great thing about the seats was the view for the president's race was the best.... boy did my kid love that president's race.. he had the biggest grin on..

why did matt williams let gio pitch and then repllace him...with a runner on he's saying he has no pinch hitter better?..

oh and there was no bryce, no ryan, no laroche.. boy did the lineup look thin yesterday..
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on May 18, 2014, 10:32:08 am
Colon is getting close to the exclusive 200-400 club.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on May 18, 2014, 02:48:57 pm
Colon is getting close to the exclusive 200-400 club.

191-133 with an ERA under 4.... not a bad record....

not sure what your 400 is about?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on May 18, 2014, 03:05:46 pm
Colon is getting close to the exclusive 200-400 club.

191-133 with an ERA under 4.... not a bad record....

not sure what your 400 is about?
200 wins, 400lbs
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on May 18, 2014, 03:29:52 pm
Gio on DL.

that explains it...
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on May 19, 2014, 01:59:53 pm
Gio on DL.

that explains it...
This team can't seem to catch a break on the injuries.

How about The Buffalo/El Bufalo!? That guy is F U N to watch! So glad he's healthy!
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on May 20, 2014, 11:36:23 am
they look like last year's team...even worse.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on May 20, 2014, 11:51:16 am
they look like last year's team...even worse.
As soon as they went down by 2 runs I knew it was over. So frustrating. I know that a LOT of people are out with injuries, but come on. The pitchers can make zero mistakes and that puts even more pressure on them to perform.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 24, 2014, 08:29:40 pm
Is is too early for me to to say fire the manager?

Charlie Morton=terrible interview
Doug Fister=future broadcaster
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on May 25, 2014, 10:00:58 am
Is is too early for me to to say fire the manager?

Charlie Morton=terrible interview
Doug Fister=future broadcaster

not really.. never liked the hiring in the first place...

but they just don't have enough offense.....they needed to add another strong bat in the offseason...it just looks like the same problem as most of last year.. the pitching is great but they don't score enough runs.....its hard though when you dont have zim, harper or laroche! some of those guys out there look like scrubs..
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on May 25, 2014, 10:57:00 am
i dont think its fair to make any judgement on williams yet. hes definitely made some questionable calls but with the lineup hes had to send out there lately being near 500 is a miracle.

if the nats cant string together a few weeks of great baseball once guys start coming off the dl i could get on board with disliking williams, but until then im giving him the benefit of the doubt. injuries arent his fault. (although you could certainly argue harpers injury is partially on williams)

the defense has been atrocious though, and that might be one thing you can attribute to williams.

plus for better or worse rizzo will give him more than one season. that hiring was his big move as a gm and i dont think he'll admit it was a failure that soon. whether he should or not is another discussion

agree that a lot of the bench additions arent really working out (and espinosas strong start is proving to be a fluke, though thats probably more a result of being thrown into the starting lineup every night), but the opening day starting lineup isnt lacking big bats imo. hopefully the injuries are out of the way by the all star break and they can finish strong. in the meantime theyve got to hang around 500 however possible. anything can happen but you gotta imagin the marlins will fade soon, so itll come down to the nats and braves, with the nats absolutely needing to win or sweep a few series between them
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on May 25, 2014, 11:14:27 am
i dont think its fair to make any judgement on williams yet. hes definitely made some questionable calls but with the lineup hes had to send out there lately being near 500 is a miracle.

if the nats cant string together a few weeks of great baseball once guys start coming off the dl i could get on board with disliking williams, but until then im giving him the benefit of the doubt. injuries arent his fault. (although you could certainly argue harpers injury is partially on williams)

the defense has been atrocious though, and that might be one thing you can attribute to williams.

plus for better or worse rizzo will give him more than one season. that hiring was his big move as a gm and i dont think he'll admit it was a failure that soon. whether he should or not is another discussion

agree that a lot of the bench additions arent really working out (and espinosas strong start is proving to be a fluke, though thats probably more a result of being thrown into the starting lineup every night), but the opening day starting lineup isnt lacking big bats imo. hopefully the injuries are out of the way by the all star break and they can finish strong. in the meantime theyve got to hang around 500 however possible. anything can happen but you gotta imagin the marlins will fade soon, so itll come down to the nats and braves, with the nats absolutely needing to win or sweep a few series between them

what are these big opening day bats?

Laroche we knew would be injured because he always is.... Harper is so far HYPE.. he is not a proven big bat except in those stupid commercials.... that leaves Zimmerman who also is evidently breaking down...

They had the exact same problem last year and did nothing to make sure they wouldn't be in the same position this year... I'm sorry but Span is barely good enough...

that leaves Werth , Desmond and Ramos..I like Rendon a lot too....

also, the other problem they have which is the same as most of last year is that the clutch hitting is very poor..with runners in scoring position they seem to tense up.....You would have thought Matt Williams could have made some difference there...

Obviously they need to keep Williams for two years.... I was sort of joking around but he should be in the hot seat when they have a losing record a quarter of the way through the season...regardless of injuries..
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on May 25, 2014, 11:32:45 am
span shows flashes of being a great leadoff guy, and hes fantastic in center, but yeah, cant really argue that he hasnt been a bust. its hard to string much offense together with a leadoff guy with a sub-300 obp. will be interesting to see what rizzo does with the position next year. harper to center zimmerman to the outfield?

laroche has actually been a reliable presence over his career (except one season), so i was figuring hed be an anchor in the middle of the order. hopefully his return sparks things a bit.

harper has been more hype than results, agreed, but last april was proof for me that hes more than capable of great things if he can stay on the field. his commercials are the worst though. cant blame him for taking the money but put up some numbers before the ad blitzing gets underway

not really even sure what to say about zimmerman. that situation is a mess, but hes definitely still a big bat.

desmonds been the most frustrating guy on the team for me. considering the rumored contract he turned down this offseason hes got a ton to prove right now.

rendons been a joy to watch, even though hes slumping a bit now.

considering theyve had the starting lineup on the field for half a game this year, its hard to really judge this team. theres certainly plenty of concern though
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on May 27, 2014, 10:22:22 am
This team has become frustrating to watch. Same problems they had last year. I don't know how they can go game to game and just strand runner after runner. I think last week or 2 weeks ago they were in a game and loaded the bases TWICE and managed I think about 1 run in both situations. 3 hits in their last 30 ab's? Uy. I get that they have guys out, but wasn't the bench supposed to be BETTER this year?

I agree about watching Desmond has been frustrating, but he usually comes on more towards the 2nd half of the season.

It seems this team can only score with the long ball. I thought Matt Williams was going to force more stolen bases? I guess when base runners are so few and far between [or maybe just runs] he doesn't want to sacrifice those bodies. I don't know what to think. There's no doubt it's frustrating.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on May 28, 2014, 12:56:25 pm
Thank you for Burnett.  Bullpen was the glaring weakness last year in Anaheim and I LOVE a solid lefty reliever.

I'm sure most of you have forgotten all about him, but it's been pretty sad to watch.

He missed almost all of last season, came back a week ago and was so happy, only to go down again last night.  His return was 3 batters before leaving last night, just about in tears.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on May 28, 2014, 01:23:31 pm
That sucks!
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on May 28, 2014, 10:55:29 pm
Torn UCL,  will require a second Tommy John surgery and is out for the rest of this contract.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: James Ford on May 29, 2014, 09:26:57 am
As long as he gets paid, probably doesn't matter to him.

Torn UCL,  will require a second Tommy John surgery and is out for the rest of this contract.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on May 29, 2014, 09:49:59 am
Uy. Last night's game. I watched right up until the 5th or 6th and considered it over. Started doing some errands. Then checked Twitter and saw Wilson Ramos tied it. Went back down and watched the game again. This team really knows how to put on clinics for how to strand runners. AGAIN. LOADED BASES. ZERO RUNS. Did they strand 16 last night? Insane! They couldn't get a friggin pop fly!?!?

At least the Blackhawks/Kings game was good.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on May 29, 2014, 08:10:22 pm
Nats are very painful to watch right now.....

I have a lot of sports options on my cable... watching the Nats feels kind of like torture in comparison to many of the others...can't see it improving during the World Cup.

Rendon is slumping so bad too...sad...
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on May 30, 2014, 09:53:18 am
Can't be hot all season. It is a shame. It sucks that he's hitting his slump while everyone else seems to be. At least I'm busy all weekend so I probably won't catch any of the games.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on June 03, 2014, 03:51:23 pm
Zim to Left Field starting tonight.  I wasn't going to see the Nats next week when they're here, but now I will.  I love watching professional athletes learn new positions!
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on June 03, 2014, 04:08:53 pm
Was bummed out I couldn't make it to his rehab starts. Those are always fun. I went down there when Werth was doing his stint last year. Excited! Having Zim back in the line-up definitely doesn't hurt!
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on June 07, 2014, 04:06:18 pm
Turns out the Nats were interested in Ripken after all.  Only it was Ryan, not Cal,
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on June 09, 2014, 10:29:05 am
Heh!

I missed all the games this weekend. Stupid busy weekend nights and west coast trips. Only loss came in extra innings by 1 run? Doesn't sound like a Nats loss I've become accustomed to this year... They are on a hot streak though that is for sure! I will be excited to catch some games this week. Looks like the pitching is coming around as well!
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on June 12, 2014, 09:56:58 am
Thanks for taking care of the home the home team this week and bringing them back to earth.  They were getting a little unbearable....
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: brennser on June 12, 2014, 10:04:47 am
Zim to Left Field starting tonight.  I wasn't going to see the Nats next week when they're here, but now I will.  I love watching professional athletes learn new positions!
seems like he's learning pretty nicely!
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on June 12, 2014, 10:15:41 am
Zim to Left Field starting tonight.  I wasn't going to see the Nats next week when they're here, but now I will.  I love watching professional athletes learn new positions!
seems like he's learning pretty nicely!

commentators were saying matt williams says zim goes back to third when bryce comes back...

bye bye espinosa?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: brennser on June 12, 2014, 10:27:17 am
Zim to Left Field starting tonight.  I wasn't going to see the Nats next week when they're here, but now I will.  I love watching professional athletes learn new positions!
seems like he's learning pretty nicely!

commentators were saying matt williams says zim goes back to third when bryce comes back...

bye bye espinosa?

i think its a real dilemma for williams and if it comes to pass is very tough on espinosa who I think has been playing very well - bryce isn't back for another month or so right? if they keep up this pace gonna be pretty tough to change up the team
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on June 12, 2014, 11:10:20 am
ive been impressed by ryan in the outfield. his throwing motion still looks weird but hes playing balls well and seems to be enjoying it. he hasnt been tested as far as throwing runners out yet, but hitting cutoff men doesnt require the most precise throws, so it works for him

however, when harper comes back the question is basically whether you sit span or espinosa, and i think thats a pretty easy decision. espinosa at second certainly gives you a stronger defensive infield, but at a huge cost imo. hes not an everyday bat, span is finally doing the leadoff thing well, and having his glove and range in center is a huge plus, huge enough to negate potential zimmerman errors at third. i just dont think this teams best lineup has espinosa starting right now

longterm though, you gotta figure rizzo is at least considering a zim/harper/werth outfield.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on June 12, 2014, 11:17:25 am
Watching Espi on defense is awesome, but seeing him rack up all those strikes is just not worth it. Sliding Rendon over and letting Zim play third is better for the line-up. This team NEEDs offense. We've seen what happens when they get a few runs and strains the pitching staff. When they give the pitchers a lead, look at what they've been able to do. They went close to 50 ab's without issuing a walk? That's insane! Hopefully they can break out a broom for San Fran today.

Also, damn it, Ramos back on the 15 day DL!? UGH!
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on June 12, 2014, 11:36:56 am
as good as ramos' bat is i think the time is coming for the nats to stop viewing him as a core piece of the lineup moving forward. sucks to give up on a guy thats been through as much as he has, but its a drag to constantly get him back just long enough to heat up, only to lose him again. i remember there was extension talk last year but rizzo said he wanted to see if wilson could stay healthy a full year. well...the answers obvious. hes one of the best hitting catchers in the game, and solid behind the plate as well, but not a guy i want to see locked up for years unfortunately. some have been freak injuries, sure, but the guys on the dl more than the field

its a good thing they got lobaton this offseason. hes not elite by any means but hes a better fill in option than calling up a AAA guy
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on June 13, 2014, 09:50:42 am
Lobaton has turbo boosters when he can put a ball in play. Ramos is just so fucking great in that line-up. It's a real shame. I was willing to get behind "bad luck" for the dude, but jumping right back on the 15 day DL is frustrating. Hopefully they'll see that and try and find/groom another big bat catcher like him. But................................ we'll see if he can stay healthy after his current stint on the DL. Lol.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on June 23, 2014, 11:05:02 am
You guys have a great,  open Ballpark. Glad I finally got to see it.

It's definitely in my top 10
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on June 23, 2014, 02:26:49 pm
Heading down to the PNats game tonight to catch Wilson and Bryce in their rehab starts. Stoked!
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on June 25, 2014, 09:54:04 am
Anyone catch the Nats game last night? I stayed up for the whole thing. Span's catch, Zim's catch, Zim's bomb were awesome. I guess they'll have a lot of the bench dudes starting today.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on June 25, 2014, 12:15:43 pm
i will be heading to chicago this weekend to catch a game or two at wrigley.  will definitely be at the friday game, and saturday seems hard to pass up (samardjiza vs. gio)
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on June 30, 2014, 09:30:53 pm
Top of the 7th, with a lead, and he's already making headlines:

Harper Returns to Lineup with an Attitude (http://m.washingtonpost.com/sports/nationals/thomas-boswell-bryce-harper-returns-to-the-nationals-with-attitude/2014/06/30/4cd30d60-00aa-11e4-b8ff-89afd3fad6bd_story.html)

I think Boswell is harsh here, but I agree with the sentiment.  Hey 22 year old kid who missed almost 60 games and the team is still somehow only .5 game out - shut the hell up and play ball.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on June 30, 2014, 09:40:54 pm
Top of the 7th, with a lead, and he's already making headlines:

Harper Returns to Lineup with an Attitude (http://m.washingtonpost.com/sports/nationals/thomas-boswell-bryce-harper-returns-to-the-nationals-with-attitude/2014/06/30/4cd30d60-00aa-11e4-b8ff-89afd3fad6bd_story.html)

I think Boswell is harsh here, but I agree with the sentiment.  Hey 22 year old kid who missed almost 60 games and the team is still somehow only .5 game out - shut the hell up and play ball.

harper is a moron... i can't believe he would say that stuff...
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on June 30, 2014, 09:51:10 pm
glad to have harper back, but man was that a stupid quote. i generally think his attitude reputation is overhyped, but there's no defending him here. dumb dumb dumb.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on July 01, 2014, 01:27:36 am
Top of the 7th, with a lead, and he's already making headlines:

Harper Returns to Lineup with an Attitude (http://m.washingtonpost.com/sports/nationals/thomas-boswell-bryce-harper-returns-to-the-nationals-with-attitude/2014/06/30/4cd30d60-00aa-11e4-b8ff-89afd3fad6bd_story.html)

I think Boswell is harsh here, but I agree with the sentiment.  Hey 22 year old kid who missed almost 60 games and the team is still somehow only .5 game out - shut the hell up and play ball.

"Instead of ?Nothing But Natitude,? Harper?s box could?ve read, ?Nothing But Attitude.?"

accidental meta
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on July 01, 2014, 09:34:45 am
Didn't he start low when he first got called up too? Within a couple games he was right up at the top. I think it was to ease him in. I was there last night. Everyone stood up when he came to bat. It was a joke. Let the kid play some baseball. I love how he plays, but he IS overhyped so far. I'm excited to have the full line-up in there though and last night was one fun game to be at.

I will also be there tonight!
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on July 01, 2014, 09:55:57 am
I know this might seem like a trollbait opinion, but do you think there's something about Washington sports fans "bandwagon-ness" that enables a lot of this? Like, I've always thought Ovechkin would be a lot better in most other franchises. He can skate half-assed (at best) on defense and absolutely no coach can say crap because the coach would get fired. RG3 checks himself in and out of games and again, basically can fire a coach. Harper can give lineup suggestions and fans are basically going to let him skate.

These things wouldn't happen in most other cities. If OV was on the Wings or Hawks, they'd sit his ass down and if he didn't respond, he'd be traded. He definitely wouldn't have a letter on his sweater. Harper could never do this on the Yankees or even St Louis. This just wouldn't be allowed, but in DC, if you're a star, the fans are always going to ultimately give them a pass, to an extent far greater than in the average sports town.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on July 01, 2014, 10:40:32 am
I know this might seem like a trollbait opinion, but do you think there's something about Washington sports fans "bandwagon-ness" that enables a lot of this? Like, I've always thought Ovechkin would be a lot better in most other franchises. He can skate half-assed (at best) on defense and absolutely no coach can say crap because the coach would get fired. RG3 checks himself in and out of games and again, basically can fire a coach. Harper can give lineup suggestions and fans are basically going to let him skate.

These things wouldn't happen in most other cities. If OV was on the Wings or Hawks, they'd sit his ass down and if he didn't respond, he'd be traded. He definitely wouldn't have a letter on his sweater. Harper could never do this on the Yankees or even St Louis. This just wouldn't be allowed, but in DC, if you're a star, the fans are always going to ultimately give them a pass, to an extent far greater than in the average sports town.

fan base AND media.  outside of boswell, you have nothing but praise for mediocrity and free passes.  at least it's changing a little bit now as teams continue to underachieve in the region.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on July 01, 2014, 11:46:14 am
i generally think his attitude reputation is overhyped, but there's no defending him here. dumb dumb dumb.

I don't think the Nats have anything to worry about. (http://www.natsenquirer.com/2014/06/bryce-harper-and-denard-span-exchange-awkward-postgame-high-five.html)
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on July 01, 2014, 12:13:53 pm
i generally think his attitude reputation is overhyped, but there's no defending him here. dumb dumb dumb.

I don't think the Nats have anything to worry about. (http://www.natsenquirer.com/2014/06/bryce-harper-and-denard-span-exchange-awkward-postgame-high-five.html)

hahahaha.

oh man.

there's also the possibility that denard is the real bum in the clubhouse, and harper is the only one immature enough to make it publicly known.  i doubt that's the case, but it's possible.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on July 01, 2014, 02:46:06 pm
I know this might seem like a trollbait opinion, but do you think there's something about Washington sports fans "bandwagon-ness" that enables a lot of this? Like, I've always thought Ovechkin would be a lot better in most other franchises. He can skate half-assed (at best) on defense and absolutely no coach can say crap because the coach would get fired. RG3 checks himself in and out of games and again, basically can fire a coach. Harper can give lineup suggestions and fans are basically going to let him skate.

These things wouldn't happen in most other cities. If OV was on the Wings or Hawks, they'd sit his ass down and if he didn't respond, he'd be traded. He definitely wouldn't have a letter on his sweater. Harper could never do this on the Yankees or even St Louis. This just wouldn't be allowed, but in DC, if you're a star, the fans are always going to ultimately give them a pass, to an extent far greater than in the average sports town.
Ovechkin is a 3 time league MVP and has led the league in scoring. He'd maybe have his minutes cut down, like Hunter did, and Hunter wasn't chased out or fired because of Ovechkin. If anything he just didn't like the team, or coaching it, and he chose to be with his family in Canada with his own hockey program. Even in that season Ovechkin became more defensive minded, diving in front of pucks, being more responsible on his defensive side.

RG3 may have more of a say, but Shannahan was nothing short of disappointing in his 4 seasons here and apparently a nazi in the locker room. BUT those are all rumors and we'll never know. I don't think any single player has more power in their organization over what the GM or owner decides. I don't think Harper, RG3, Ovechkin, John Wall/Bradley Beal can walk into the GMs office and say "Fire this shmo" and have it be done.

I do think the DC bangwagon is annoying, but what can we do. From all the locker room reports, no one in the clubhouse seems to care what Harper said and are just excited to have him and the full opening day line-up back on the field. The sports media, especially in this town, is such a fucking joke.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on July 08, 2014, 11:02:23 am
So much for the O's bullpen being exhausted.

Sucks to see the starting pitching keep us in the game and then the bullpen to shit the bed. Not to take anything away from the O's line-up at all. It was a frustrating loss considering how close most of the game was.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on July 25, 2014, 08:39:44 pm
The Giants, or perhaps it's just Mike Morse I can only hear the stadium from my place, I can't see the field, are currently taking BP to "Take on Me" by A-Ha.

I just thought you guys should know that.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on July 28, 2014, 10:01:24 am
They finally stopped playing it during the 7th inning stretches here. It's time we moved on.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 28, 2014, 10:29:28 am
Perhaps they could try "YMCA".

They finally stopped playing it during the 7th inning stretches here. It's time we moved on.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on July 28, 2014, 10:32:33 am
Perhaps they could try "YMCA".

They finally stopped playing it during the 7th inning stretches here. It's time we moved on.
In The Navy really is the better Village People track, and it'd be a great shoutout to our boys up in Annapolis.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on July 28, 2014, 01:09:39 pm
Perhaps they could try "YMCA".

They finally stopped playing it during the 7th inning stretches here. It's time we moved on.
In The Navy really is the better Village People track, and it'd be a great shoutout to our boys up in Annapolis.
Not to mention the ballpark is located in the Navy Yard...
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on July 28, 2014, 01:14:20 pm
Perhaps they could try "YMCA".

They finally stopped playing it during the 7th inning stretches here. It's time we moved on.
In The Navy really is the better Village People track, and it'd be a great shoutout to our boys up in Annapolis.
Not to mention the ballpark is located in the Navy Yard...

game set match
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on July 28, 2014, 01:23:43 pm
Perhaps they could try "YMCA".

They finally stopped playing it during the 7th inning stretches here. It's time we moved on.
In The Navy really is the better Village People track, and it'd be a great shoutout to our boys up in Annapolis.
Not to mention the ballpark is located in the Navy Yard...

game set match
Oh, I concur. We're well on our way to improving the Nats Game Day experience.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 28, 2014, 10:30:17 pm
Wow, talk about a total meltdown.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on July 29, 2014, 06:32:35 am
ill never understand why so many managers will leave their closer out there when he clearly doesnt have it from the start. i get that the dude is paid to finish games, and a big money guy should get some leeway to clean up his own messes, but come on. last night was ridiculous. soriano was clearly off from the moment he came in and williams should have taken him out long before that game was tied up. not doing so was a stubborn insistence on playing it by the book.

blaming the manager susually an overreaction but this ones all on williams. cant lose games like that
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 29, 2014, 08:12:33 am
Also, is Jerry Blevins the best guy to bring in when the game is on the line? I know he had already used Storen, but there are other better relievers in the pen, aren't there?

ill never understand why so many managers will leave their closer out there when he clearly doesnt have it from the start. i get that the dude is paid to finish games, and a big money guy should get some leeway to clean up his own messes, but come on. last night was ridiculous. soriano was clearly off from the moment he came in and williams should have taken him out long before that game was tied up. not doing so was a stubborn insistence on playing it by the book.

blaming the manager susually an overreaction but this ones all on williams. cant lose games like that
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on July 29, 2014, 08:27:58 am
i guess clippard threw too much on sunday and stammen had to be saved for extra innings (although if hed been brought in before the game was tied this is moot) so it was either blevins or barrett, and both have been shaky lately

personally i think storen should have come back for the 8th
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on July 29, 2014, 09:16:03 am
that was nuts last night! i couldn't believe it was happening as i was watching...


Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on July 29, 2014, 09:20:15 am
Wow, talk about a total meltdown.

ill never understand why so many managers will leave their closer out there when he clearly doesnt have it from the start. i get that the dude is paid to finish games, and a big money guy should get some leeway to clean up his own messes, but come on. last night was ridiculous. soriano was clearly off from the moment he came in and williams should have taken him out long before that game was tied up. not doing so was a stubborn insistence on playing it by the book.

blaming the manager susually an overreaction but this ones all on williams. cant lose games like that

Also, is Jerry Blevins the best guy to bring in when the game is on the line? I know he had already used Storen, but there are other better relievers in the pen, aren't there?

i guess clippard threw too much on sunday and stammen had to be saved for extra innings (although if hed been brought in before the game was tied this is moot) so it was either blevins or barrett, and both have been shaky lately

personally i think storen should have come back for the 8th

that was nuts last night! i couldn't believe it was happening as i was watching...
Welcome to being a Detroit Tigers fan!
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on July 29, 2014, 01:27:38 pm
Wow, talk about a total meltdown.
I was in total awe. Watched the whole game. It was like 2 totally different teams out there. Fielding went out the window. How? HOW do you blow a 6 run lead?! 4 in the 9th!? Good lord.

This better not be something that dwells on their head and fucks them up. Let's get these next 2 and move on.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: brennser on July 29, 2014, 01:28:39 pm
Wow, talk about a total meltdown.
yeah
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on July 29, 2014, 02:08:09 pm
(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--pfLkvdJy--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/18j4uh7bsg7g6jpg.jpg)
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on July 29, 2014, 02:40:54 pm
(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--pfLkvdJy--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/18j4uh7bsg7g6jpg.jpg)
omg lol
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: eros on July 29, 2014, 04:15:17 pm
I was in total awe. Watched the whole game. It was like 2 totally different teams out there. Fielding went out the window. How? HOW do you blow a 6 run lead?! 4 in the 9th!? Good lord.

This better not be something that dwells on their head and fucks them up. Let's get these next 2 and move on.

Soriano (and the bullpen) didn't look too sharp on Sunday either. 

Good thing we have a guy pitching tonight who never lets anything get in his head.   :P
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on July 29, 2014, 04:57:52 pm
Ha! Maybe they should consider letting Stras pitch from the 3rd inning on....

As for Soriano, I don't know why he has to give everyone a heart attack whenever he takes the hill.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on July 29, 2014, 06:05:44 pm
Ha! Maybe they should consider letting Stras pitch from the 3rd inning on....

As for Soriano, I don't know why he has to give everyone a heart attack whenever he takes the hill.

his numbers seem to suggest he's been unlucky this year. sub 2 era, sub 1 whip, high ks, low bbs, low hrs. 

http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1100&position=P
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: James Ford on July 29, 2014, 08:13:35 pm
Wow

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/wp/2014/07/28/dmitri-young-explains-his-amazing-weight-loss/

Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on July 30, 2014, 09:31:16 am
Real shame to see Stras have such a strong outing for him to get no run support. Loading the bases twice and can't move a SINGLE guy in? Wasted 2 strong starts from Zim and Stras. Man, I hate the Marlins.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on August 17, 2014, 07:28:26 pm
this is the best team in baseball right now, no question.

the only concern i have is: can they keep this up through october?  you got to get hot going into september and october, and this team might be peaking too early.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on August 17, 2014, 07:51:15 pm
^ this post was one inning too early.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on August 17, 2014, 07:57:49 pm
Go Braves.  At least for tonight.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on August 17, 2014, 09:20:50 pm
great game, great series. seeing the nats able to rally again and again almost makes up for williams' by the book managing blowing up once again. sorianos had a great year but you can see his meltdowns coming from a mile away and he should have been taken out long before he was. just imagining soriano on the mound come october makes me nervous

not to get ahead of things ive been thinking about a potential playoff rotation a bit lately. gio and strasburg have been the most inconsistent starters by far (although strasburg can still dominatee on any given night), but would williams have the balls to send either of the rotations biggest names to the bullpen for a playoff series? based on games like tonight, no way. itll be a shame to see roark relegated to long relief after such a great season
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on August 17, 2014, 10:18:20 pm
great game, great series. seeing the nats able to rally again and again almost makes up for williams' by the book managing blowing up once again. sorianos had a great year but you can see his meltdowns coming from a mile away and he should have been taken out long before he was. just imagining soriano on the mound come october makes me nervous

not to get ahead of things ive been thinking about a potential playoff rotation a bit lately. gio and strasburg have been the most inconsistent starters by far (although strasburg can still dominatee on any given night), but would williams have the balls to send either of the rotations biggest names to the bullpen for a playoff series? based on games like tonight, no way. itll be a shame to see roark relegated to long relief after such a great season

my guess is strasburg, fister, and zimmerman are locks, and unless gio has a solid stretch from now through the end of the season, roark will get the nod when they need a 4th starter.  but that's not necessarily a good thing. although roark gives the team the best chance to win right now, teams will know him better after seeing a full season of him. his best stuff isn't as good as gio's best stuff, so the best situation is we see gio turn it on and solidfy himself as the 4th starter.  that, and he's a lefty.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on August 18, 2014, 06:53:45 am
theyvee already seen a full season of roark if you include last year (albeit as a reliever)

i keep wanting to call the guy a fluke but hes giving strong outings every start. gio is the better pitcher when hes on, but his inconsistency and frequent sudden meltdowns would make me nervous in a playoff game

id much rather have all rightys im comfortable with than a token lefty just cuz conventional wisdom says you need one
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on August 18, 2014, 10:05:56 am
Saturday and Sundays games were just so much fun. There's been a lot of times this season where the Nats fall behind and can never seem to catch up. Seeing them do this back to back nights is super fun.

Soriano seems to always want to stress him and the rest of the team and fan base out WHENEVER he's on the mound. Ian Desmond tweeted that he was upset that the fans would boo him after all he's done this year. I just think Soriano gets too close to teetering over the edge TOO much. Eventually this kind of implostion was going to happen.

How about that bench though?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on August 18, 2014, 10:26:31 pm
Saturday and Sundays games were just so much fun. There's been a lot of times this season where the Nats fall behind and can never seem to catch up. Seeing them do this back to back to back nights is super fun.

updated
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on August 19, 2014, 11:13:04 am
Was excited to see Clipp come out in the 9th. Immediately put my face in my hands after that bomb he gave up. Craig Stammen got the blood pressure up as well. INSANE how he got out of that bases loaded jam.

Curious to see which Strasburg we get tonight. He is at home... 7-1 over his last 12 home starts.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on August 19, 2014, 11:27:42 pm
en fuego

 ;D
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on August 20, 2014, 10:28:41 am
This is the streak I've been waiting for since the beginning of last season. Very awesome to see Strasburg go for his longest outing of the season. It seems like everyone is having fun out there too.

Anyone else really enjoying Doug Fister and the Rally Gnome?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 22, 2014, 10:17:14 am
Took my daughter to the game yesterday. Some observations:

1. Pitchers duels are boring.

2. A game with no extra base hits is boring.

3. Walk off wins are the most exciting thing in baseball, even when it's on a throwing error.

4. Don't forget to bring electronic devices, sketch pads, and books (all of which I forgot I forgot) to keep your couldn't give a shit about sports kid occupied during the game *especially if your wife doesn't come to the game with you*. Bringing a wide variety of snacks definitely helps, as well as getting a free bobblehead (We spent several innings playing "Ask Ian" where I had to ask the Ian Desmond bobblehead a yes/no question, and he would respond by bobbing yes or no. No matter how much I tried to get the Ian Desmond bobblehead to diss Bryce Harper, he wouldn't.)

5. Why would they give a guy who plays nearly every game of the season the day off on his bobblehead day? That just doesn't seem right.

6. Bryce Harper is still a douche. I laughed hard at his fielding error on an easy ground single.

7. It is possible to bring your own beer to Nats Park.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on August 22, 2014, 12:43:43 pm

7. It is possible to bring your own beer to Nats Park.


intervention...now...seriously... ;)
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 22, 2014, 12:56:55 pm
Without my wife there, I had to share my beer with my daughter. It was a gose, so I told her it was lemonade. She asked for more but I told her the family limit is six ounces.


7. It is possible to bring your own beer to Nats Park.


intervention...now...seriously... ;)
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Yada on August 22, 2014, 01:01:30 pm
Deets on the smuggling efforts?

Furthermore, how warm was that can by the time you got through it?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on August 22, 2014, 01:59:06 pm
I heard or read somewhere that you can come into the ballpark with a small cooler. Big enough to fit some juice boxes/bags of chips/sandwiches... but they wouldn't be searched. If they were the right size... I think it might be somewhere in the FAQ of the site...

baseball edit: also how bout dem Nats!
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on August 22, 2014, 02:20:13 pm
when i go to the ballpark i find them very aggresive in their searching...

i'd just be so embarassed if they caught on... i suppose you could put a beer over your dick and nobody would pat you down there...not sure i'd want to have it after that though... ;D

but congrats james for gaming the system!!!

i am going to sunday's game by the way.... .. i am really really really hoping they don't end their streak sunday..that would really bug me!
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: James Ford on August 22, 2014, 03:39:31 pm
My plan, if they caught me, was to say that my wife packed my bag,  I had no idea that it was in there, and that she probably didn't know the rules. And then ask if I could drink both of them at the gate. I got an Odwalla bottle in as well for my daughter, which technically doesn't count as a "juice box"....she probably would have been more upset losing that than I would have the beer!

After driving then Metro-ing in, the beer temp was less than ideal for a gose, but it was still pretty tasty.


when i go to the ballpark i find them very aggresive in their searching...

i'd just be so embarassed if they caught on... i suppose you could put a beer over your dick and nobody would pat you down there...not sure i'd want to have it after that though... ;D

but congrats james for gaming the system!!!

i am going to sunday's game by the way.... .. i am really really really hoping they don't end their streak sunday..that would really bug me!
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on August 23, 2014, 03:50:38 pm
One of the guys I get my Angels tickets from when I'm in Anaheim replaces the water in 2 water bottles in his daughters backpack with vodka, and has her carry them in with her crayons and coloring books, and then he'd buy soda's and juices for her and make mixers for himself all game long.

Not the classiest guy I've ever met, but a good dude nonetheless.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on August 25, 2014, 09:49:05 am
Quite the baseball game yesterday. I started listening during the bottom of the 1st. Made it home by the 4th. Thought the game might have gotten out of hand early. SUPER awesome come back. Huge innings. Good seeing just about everyone in the line up hitting. Jose Lobaton on base 4 times with 3 hits? That's crazy! He deserves his next day off lol. Hopefully we can extend this 12 of 13 streak as we head to that shit hole Philadelphia.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on September 06, 2014, 12:41:43 am
i generally think his attitude reputation is overhyped, but there's no defending him here. dumb dumb dumb.

I don't think the Nats have anything to worry about. (http://www.natsenquirer.com/2014/06/bryce-harper-and-denard-span-exchange-awkward-postgame-high-five.html)

hahahaha.

oh man.

there's also the possibility that denard is the real bum in the clubhouse, and harper is the only one immature enough to make it publicly known.  i doubt that's the case, but it's possible.

Me thinks there's a real respect problem here....
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on September 06, 2014, 09:37:28 am
i generally think his attitude reputation is overhyped, but there's no defending him here. dumb dumb dumb.

I don't think the Nats have anything to worry about. (http://www.natsenquirer.com/2014/06/bryce-harper-and-denard-span-exchange-awkward-postgame-high-five.html)

hahahaha.

oh man.

there's also the possibility that denard is the real bum in the clubhouse, and harper is the only one immature enough to make it publicly known.  i doubt that's the case, but it's possible.

Me thinks there's a real respect problem here....

that was ridiculous....
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on September 06, 2014, 12:10:47 pm
i generally think his attitude reputation is overhyped, but there's no defending him here. dumb dumb dumb.

I don't think the Nats have anything to worry about. (http://www.natsenquirer.com/2014/06/bryce-harper-and-denard-span-exchange-awkward-postgame-high-five.html)

hahahaha.

oh man.

there's also the possibility that denard is the real bum in the clubhouse, and harper is the only one immature enough to make it publicly known.  i doubt that's the case, but it's possible.

Me thinks there's a real respect problem here....

that was ridiculous....

i would just like to re-tract my original post pondering whether denard span is the bum.

he's clearly what keeps this team together.  harper needs to get on board.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on September 06, 2014, 01:31:22 pm
so what happens with the closer spot now

i missed last nights meltdown but i can pretty much picture it based on all his other post-asb meltdowns. seems williams has finally acknowledged that he cant keep sending soriano out there just cuz hes the closer, which is a start, but who do you send out? clippard has only been slightly more reliable than soriano lately. is it time for storen to get another shot? maybe someone more out of left field like detwiler?

its easy (and totally justified) to hate on soriano for his recent performance but the truth is the entire bullpen has been shaky for way too long now. as good as the nats have looked overall lately, thats a big problem and theres no easy fix i can see
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on September 06, 2014, 01:33:55 pm
i generally think his attitude reputation is overhyped, but there's no defending him here. dumb dumb dumb.

I don't think the Nats have anything to worry about. (http://www.natsenquirer.com/2014/06/bryce-harper-and-denard-span-exchange-awkward-postgame-high-five.html)

hahahaha.

oh man.

there's also the possibility that denard is the real bum in the clubhouse, and harper is the only one immature enough to make it publicly known.  i doubt that's the case, but it's possible.

Me thinks there's a real respect problem here....

that was ridiculous....

i would just like to re-tract my original post pondering whether denard span is the bum.

he's clearly what keeps this team together.  harper needs to get on board.

harper is a dick....you could tell by the way denard and bryce handled it that there is no love lost... you did not see even the minimum communication after the collision... WTF is wrong with harper? his stats ain't all that great either.. at this point if you told me you can have harper or you can have rendon i would go with rendon....
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on September 06, 2014, 01:55:25 pm
rendons the real deal for sure. i kept thinking the league would adjust to him and hed struggle to keep hitting but hes made all the adjustments and hes been a joy to watch all year. hes exactly the kind of guy you went towards the top of the order.

probably too early to broach the subject but i hope he stays a nat for a very long time.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on September 06, 2014, 02:58:32 pm
just read that sorianos option for next year is automatic if he finishes 16 more games this season. i gotta imagine he was already a longshot to do that but even more so if hes taking a few days off and coming back in lower leverage innings as williams has implied. even if he regains his form before the playoffs i definitely hope the nats move on next year. the guy can still be a solid reliever, but hes not a closer
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on September 06, 2014, 04:55:31 pm
probably too early to broach the subject but i hope he stays a nat for a very long time.

His agent is Scott Boras, so....

Though his situation is interesting because he signed an MLB contract right out of the gate.  He's making $1.8m this year (and his previous years) - it expires this year and they'll likely negotiate a new contract (albeit with Boras) as he's not arb eligible until 2017 and a free agent after 2019.  A lot could happen here, but the Nat's best chance of signing him past 2019 is this year and next.  After that, Boras will definitely steer him towards free agency. 
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on September 06, 2014, 08:25:00 pm
yeah i guess it wont be easy (and they probably want to see him to show he can stay healthy longer before making the commitment) but id love to see the nats lock him up anyway. the guys done everything asked of him and shined all over the field. i still expect harper to live up to his talent (or at least more so than he has so far) but right now rendon is the young guy to watch on this team. hopefully he gets a bit of the spotlight come playoff time
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on September 06, 2014, 10:44:37 pm
i went to a game today.  it was fun, and very hot.  great seats.  hot dogs and popcorn and drinks and ice cream and neatoness.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on September 08, 2014, 09:41:53 am
yeah i guess it wont be easy (and they probably want to see him to show he can stay healthy longer before making the commitment) but id love to see the nats lock him up anyway. the guys done everything asked of him and shined all over the field. i still expect harper to live up to his talent (or at least more so than he has so far) but right now rendon is the young guy to watch on this team. hopefully he gets a bit of the spotlight come playoff time
Rendon has become my favorite National. He's fun to watch no matter where he is playing. He hustles, keeps his head down, is a team player, and seems to let his work speak for him more than anything. It's almost insane how consistent he's been all year.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on September 09, 2014, 06:32:34 am
winning last night was huge. pressure was already all on the braves, now even more so. winning tonight will more or less put the division on ice.

how good has storen looked? im really hoping williams sticks with him even if soriano appears to regain form in his next few outings. also hoping rizzo is watching and realizes he doesnt need to go out and grab another high price closer this winter

also very nice to see gio finally pitching like a top of the rotation guy again.

now the big question is will ryan be able to make it back in time to be in any sort of groove come playoff time
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on September 09, 2014, 07:12:06 am


also very nice to see gio finally pitching like a top of the rotation guy again.


huh? that was fister dude!
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on September 09, 2014, 08:28:14 am
im aware. wasnt referring to last night with that line. gio's last couple starts have been great

fisters been great all year so thats not news
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Bombay Chutney on September 09, 2014, 08:46:33 am
How fun was it when Williams came out to get Fister, but went back to the dugout?  Storen with 3 strikeouts.  What a game.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on September 09, 2014, 09:36:52 am
How fun was it when Williams came out to get Fister, but went back to the dugout?  Storen with 3 strikeouts.  What a game.
I was at the park last night. Crowd exploded after the team came in, looking like Fister was about to be taken out. Standing ovation. Then everyone disbands and Fister is still on the hill. Place went nuts! Super excited I got to go last night. After the Barves 1 run there as a faint "tribe chant" or whatever but they were flooded out by tons of boo's. The chants for DREWWWWWW at the end of the game were awesome too. Super fun game to go to. Excited for the rest of the series!
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on September 16, 2014, 10:06:16 am
Magic number down to 2? Can clinch tonight? Yeah?

Rough outing for Rafael Soriano. Last night he proved he cannot be trusted... I guess.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on September 16, 2014, 10:21:46 am
how realistic is soriano being left off the playoff roster altogether? he doesnt seem to be a reliever comfortable pitching any inning, and he looked awful back in the 9th last night. at this point he seems like a waste of a playoff roster spot since he still cant be trusted in important situations, but would williams do it? i feel for soriano and id love to see him get it together but time isnt on his side right now
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on September 16, 2014, 11:03:12 am
He came in last week in the 7th or 8th, I forget against who... But he had a decent reliever inning. It's way too late in the season to experiment. Maybe he'll come in after the Nats lock up the division and give some guys a day or 2 off before they head for the top seed in the league.

I feel for him. It's a shame, but everything has not been the same since the All Star Break. Drew has been lights out though.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 16, 2014, 11:23:38 am
I don't feel for him. He's a man. And yes, he's a man playing a kids game, but if he's not playing it well, leave him off the roster and let him take it like a man. He still makes a ton of cash anyway.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on September 16, 2014, 11:33:09 am
how realistic is soriano being left off the playoff roster altogether? he doesnt seem to be a reliever comfortable pitching any inning, and he looked awful back in the 9th last night. at this point he seems like a waste of a playoff roster spot since he still cant be trusted in important situations, but would williams do it? i feel for soriano and id love to see him get it together but time isnt on his side right now

I would say realistic... yesterday was a "test" and he failed...

Nats could clinch tonight!
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on September 16, 2014, 11:56:29 am
Heard on the radio that Williams was considering leaving Zimmerman on the bench as a DH and possibly to come in relief in left field or at first base. Word is he doesn't want to mess with Rendon at 3rd and Cabrera at 2nd. How crazy is that! I guess it's different because Zimmerman can't rehab in the minors when he comes back.

I hope the Nats clinch tonight. I home they just blast the Braves. It's the Braves "last gasp" of sorts. Fuck them.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on September 16, 2014, 11:59:24 am
Heard on the radio that Williams was considering leaving Zimmerman on the bench as a DH and possibly to come in relief in left field or at first base.
this doesnt really make any sense when you consider ryans defense is his liability at this point. you dont put a defensive downgrade in as a late game sub

i dont really have any doubt that ryan will be a starter come playoff time.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on September 16, 2014, 01:05:56 pm
Heard on the radio that Williams was considering leaving Zimmerman on the bench as a DH

I think you meant PH.  Or if Williams is already working out his World Series roster, then you've got bigger problems...
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on September 16, 2014, 01:26:31 pm
Heard on the radio that Williams was considering leaving Zimmerman on the bench as a DH

I think you meant PH.  Or if Williams is already working out his World Series roster, then you've got bigger problems...

He's talking about DHing in the instructional league.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on September 16, 2014, 01:49:38 pm
Heard on the radio that Williams was considering leaving Zimmerman on the bench as a DH and possibly to come in relief in left field or at first base.
this doesnt really make any sense when you consider ryans defense is his liability at this point. you dont put a defensive downgrade in as a late game sub

i dont really have any doubt that ryan will be a starter come playoff time.
Or he'll work left field or first base to give some guys a day off. Like I said, this was just a report on the radio. I thought it was interesting. Seeing as how Desmond and Cabrera have been since he joined the team and Rendon on 3rd.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on September 16, 2014, 10:37:13 pm
yay! first team to clinch!

so who will we play??

i'm hoping someone takes me to a playoff game.. :)

Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on September 17, 2014, 02:32:40 am
yay! first team to clinch



Actually,  Anaheim clinched a playoff spot last night,  but it happened after you went to sleep so I'm not surprised you missed it.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on September 17, 2014, 06:11:53 am
first team to clinch a division though. bit more celebration worthy

on that note, how crazy is it that the nats hadnt actually clnched a playoff spot at all until they won the division for good.

really good game to clinch on too. that was some blast by desmond, and theres something really awesome about storen being on the mound to clinch it

really hoping the nats lock down the #1 seed in the coming weeks. let st louis and la wear out their best pitchers in the first round. the nats look good but id really rather they not have to face both teams
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on September 17, 2014, 06:23:50 am
magic number for #1 seed is 10 btw
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Bombay Chutney on September 17, 2014, 07:18:13 am
Yeah Baby!
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on September 17, 2014, 09:23:42 am
Man, that blast from Desmond went about a mile. What a game. So awesome to have Drew out there to close out the game. It would be great if we got 1 final sweep with our bench guys in there tonight. Atlanta fans barely booed at the end of the game. That place sucks. I wonder how sad that concert was after the game lol.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on September 17, 2014, 12:38:31 pm
let st louis and la wear out their best pitchers in the first round. the nats look good but id really rather they not have to face both teams

This is hugely important - especially to avoid the Dodgers in a 5 game series (which I think the Nats will, but you never konw).  Having to face Kershaw twice in a 5 game series seems slightly unfair...
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on September 17, 2014, 12:51:31 pm
Impressive.

Most wins by an NL team, past three seasons
Nationals 271
Cardinals 268
Braves 265
Dodgers 264

I would have thought the Giants would be at or near the top of this list.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on September 17, 2014, 01:14:23 pm
let st louis and la wear out their best pitchers in the first round. the nats look good but id really rather they not have to face both teams

This is hugely important - especially to avoid the Dodgers in a 5 game series (which I think the Nats will, but you never konw).  Having to face Kershaw twice in a 5 game series seems slightly unfair...
true, but his short rest start in last years playoffs went terribly iirc.

even with kershaw, im hoping for a nats/dodgers nlcs. the nats looked comfortable against la this year and i think the cardinals are still a big time mental obstacle id rather not see the nats have to face.

though i dont think san fran or pittsburgh would necessarily be a cakewalk in the nlds, so i dont want to get too far ahead of things here
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on September 17, 2014, 02:20:22 pm
I think all the teams in the NL who are headed to the playoffs would make for very solid/stressful series. Nats are playing with so much confidence right now. Will be interesting to see once the picture clears up over the next week!
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on September 17, 2014, 06:06:35 pm
true, but his short rest start in last years playoffs went terribly iirc.

I was thinking Games 1 (Oct 3) & 5 (Oct 9) which would give him 5 days rest.   I think Game 4 is out of the question as it's 3 days rest (Oct 7).

All of this assumes they don't need to use him in the one game playoff.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on September 17, 2014, 06:14:23 pm
Maybe I'm misremembering but the way I remember it the Nats hit Kershaw fairly good....oh wait, maybe that was the King
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on September 17, 2014, 06:59:04 pm
Maybe I'm misremembering but the way I remember it the Nats hit Kershaw fairly good....oh wait, maybe that was the King

Kershaw is 2-0 vs the Nats this year with a 0.60 ERA.  He's won 5 in a row and is 7-2 lifetime, with those losses coming 2010 and earlier.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on September 17, 2014, 07:01:44 pm
ok well strike that...

i would not fear the dodgers....or any team if i were the nats..

i'm not saying the nats are going to win though...i don't know..nobody does...

the dodgers are a bit of a mess frankly.... anyone see that play where they made like 3 or 4 errors on the same play?

vin scully: "Holy mackerel.... that was embarassing..."

priceless
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on September 17, 2014, 09:36:57 pm
im actually more confident int he nats facing the dodgers, even with kershaw lurking for two potential starts. i just feel like facing st louis in the playoffs will be too much. this is a very different nats team obviously, playing with tons of swagger lately but still. makes me nervous. the dodgers are an odd team, seemingly equally capable of dominating performances and little league plays like the 3 error masterpiece hutch mentioned. but theres a lot of baseball left and the dodgers just might end up needing to burn a kershaw start in the wild card game (though as a pirates fan i really hope not)

watched a bit of the espn broadcast tonight and hidden among all their subtle bitterness at having to showcase the nats minor league lineup was a nice bit of praise for rendon. i forget the exact wording but they said hes not a future superstar, he is one now. nice to see the guy getting some press attention outside of the area
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on September 17, 2014, 10:18:22 pm
yeah..i agree...would rather face the dodgers than the cards.... the cards just know their way around....and with molina in there...

the dodgers meanwhile at times look like the keystone cops... as much as I like the Dodgers!

I also think Mattingly is not going to outmanage you ( to put it kindly)
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on September 18, 2014, 09:45:27 am
Maybe I'm misremembering but the way I remember it the Nats hit Kershaw fairly good....oh wait, maybe that was the King
I think in their last meeting he went 7 or 8 and blanked us. Only allowed a handful of hits if I remember correctly.

If the Dodgers use him up in a playoff, I'm fine with the Dodgers. I believe we took 2 of 3 from them. I'd like some revenge over the Cards, but who knows. I think all the teams are tough.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: imbecile on September 19, 2014, 09:20:09 am
Anyone got the email yet with todays presale password? 

I got the email saying the presale was today and they'd send the password along this morning.  But hmm.. the presale is less than an hour away and nothing.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on September 19, 2014, 09:32:44 am
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I was just about to ask the same thing. Less than 30 minutes from the pre-sale and I have nothing either.... I keep refreshing and zip.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: imbecile on September 19, 2014, 09:52:59 am
Just got it.  PM'ing to you just in case
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on September 19, 2014, 10:09:46 am
Been sitting in this waiting room for 10 minutes. Like 2012 all over again. How do people get these friggin tickets!?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on September 19, 2014, 02:20:27 pm
don't most tickets go to season ticket holders?

i should hope so
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on September 19, 2014, 02:41:10 pm
Ticket holders get first dibs on their seats. I think they have the chance at getting 1 or 2 more on top of their seats?

EIther way. I didn't get any. I tried 2 cheap seats. Nothing. Tried 2 standing. Nothing. Tried 1 standing. Nothing. Apparently they sold out within the first 30 minutes, I was let through at about 10:40am. Waste of time.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: imbecile on September 19, 2014, 03:24:30 pm
My boss is a season ticket holder (2 seats). 

He said he prepaid a while back for playoff tickets and got 2 seats, not his normal seats automatically allocated to him with no choice on what they were, but they ended up being better seats than his normal seats (more expensive).  Then on Wednesday, he was allowed to buy up to four more seats wherever he wanted so he did that.  Said he was then going to put the allocated from tickets from earlier on stubhub and actually sit in the seats that he got to select.

I imagine this is the way most season ticket holders are working it.  So, two season tickets, parlayed into 6 tickets for each game.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on September 19, 2014, 04:19:09 pm
I guess that makes sense. I know a lot of people who have 2-6 people putting in for 2 seats through the season and they split the 81 games amongst everyone. Bastards.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on September 19, 2014, 04:26:07 pm
I'm fine it... I think a season ticket holder is taking me to a game.. ;D
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Bombay Chutney on September 19, 2014, 06:07:21 pm
I think the general sale is Monday, so you get one more chance.  They held some seats back for that, but I can't imagine there are many left.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on September 21, 2014, 08:24:55 pm
soriano has to be running out of playoff auditions now. todays 9th wasnt that bad by his recent standards but man, every single ball was crushed, and the marlins are a depleted lineup playing in a cavernous ballpark. doesnt really inspire any confidence come playoff time.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 22, 2014, 08:56:04 am
Would the Nats be willing to trade him straight up for Ubaldo?

soriano has to be running out of playoff auditions now. todays 9th wasnt that bad by his recent standards but man, every single ball was crushed, and the marlins are a depleted lineup playing in a cavernous ballpark. doesnt really inspire any confidence come playoff time.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on September 22, 2014, 10:29:58 am
Isn't his contract up after this season? Did he reach his innings count for the option or whatever? Or am I totally making up his contract...
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on September 22, 2014, 11:22:37 am
his 2015 option would have triggered with 120 games finished between this year and last. he was already a bit of a longshot there but losing the closer job cemented that not happening

so barring another unexpected free agent splash, its drews job next year
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on September 28, 2014, 03:37:52 pm
Holy fucking god what a catch. What a scene!
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on September 28, 2014, 03:45:21 pm
and to think i watched the pirates/reds game all afternoon cuz the nats had nothing to play for  :D

switched over for the last catch though. great play.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on September 28, 2014, 03:47:37 pm
If I was that kid, Zimmerman is buying me a Rolex tonite. At no point while that ball was in the air, did I think it was going to be caught. I was certain that was falling in and wrecking that thing.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on September 28, 2014, 03:50:09 pm
If I was that kid, Zimmerman is buying me a Rolex tonite. At no point while that ball was in the air, did I think it was going to be caught. I was certain that was falling in and wrecking that thing.

so did Zim

(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--i5lt8f4J--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/qtr6fsqyccvcsybyp57g.gif)
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on September 28, 2014, 03:58:27 pm
^^ that's incredible. I switched back over to the Tigers game about 10 seconds after the ball was caught so I missed that but that has got to be the weirdest emotional swing going from I'm about to pitch a no-hitter to I just blew a no-hitter to oh my God I actually did throw a no-hitter.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on September 28, 2014, 04:10:28 pm
the pessimist in me wonders how much jordans contract asking price went up this afternoon
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: imbecile on September 29, 2014, 10:22:29 am
Crazy game to be at.  All the starters getting subbed out after each hit they recorded, took a bit of the attention off the no-no.  But once they (the majority of starters were out), it completely shifted to Zimms pitching. 

There was a collective groan/gasp when that ball was hit.  Then everyone just went bonkers.  Good times.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on September 29, 2014, 10:48:35 am
I was at the game. Holy friggin crap. That 2 or 3 seconds that ball was flying through the air felt like an absolute eternity! The place went CRAZY when Souza made that grab. Holy crap. So much fun. So exhilirating! That was a weird/fun game to be at. Seeing all the starters come out one by one was special. I didn't realize Zimm was pitching a no no until after the 6th. I looked over to the scoreboard and got super giddy. I turned to my girlfriend in the 8th and said "Zimm is about to pitch.... a complete game..." lol. Amazing way to end the season.

Anyone know if we'll get the late game on Friday? Or when the schedule comes out for the wild card and NLDS games?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on September 29, 2014, 10:52:18 am
my girlfriend
Pics, or it didn't happen.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Yada on September 29, 2014, 11:00:27 am
my girlfriend
Pics, or it didn't happen.

lol
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on September 29, 2014, 01:10:13 pm
Nats games will be on FS1 or MLB Network.  No TBS.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on September 29, 2014, 01:14:22 pm
Nats games will be on FS1 or MLB Network.  No TBS.
What the shit. Will there be anything local? Like when the Skins play on ESPN?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on September 29, 2014, 01:22:10 pm
just radio

in 2012 the nats had a playoff game on mlb network, and i think the rest on tbs. no local channels
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on September 29, 2014, 02:10:50 pm
I'll have to check if I get the MLB network... will the league championships shift over to Fox? Or is everything going to be FS1?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Yada on September 29, 2014, 02:23:56 pm
I'll have to check if I get the MLB network... will the league championships shift over to Fox? Or is everything going to be FS1?

League championships are 100% on a major network.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on September 29, 2014, 02:32:26 pm
League championships are 100% on a major network.

ALCS is on TBS.
NLCS is on Fox on Saturdays and Fox Sports 1 on Sundays, Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on September 29, 2014, 02:40:07 pm
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/nationals/former-manager-davey-johnson-settles-into-retirement-but-still-follows-his-nationals/2014/09/29/b1fc4130-3aa6-11e4-8601-97ba88884ffd_story.html

nice article
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on September 30, 2014, 12:12:56 pm
I'm going to Game 2 on Saturday... my first playoff game...

got to work on my wardrobe..
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 30, 2014, 12:38:12 pm
With the Job Williams had done this year, don't y'all wish they had fired Davey sooner?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Nigel Tufnel on September 30, 2014, 12:59:23 pm
Nats games will be on FS1 or MLB Network.  No TBS.

Thanks, Angelos.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on September 30, 2014, 01:19:46 pm
With the Job Williams had done this year, don't y'all wish they had fired Davey sooner?

 they never fired Davey... and NO.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on September 30, 2014, 01:20:19 pm
so glad I fought my cable company over 7 days...it was crazy.. i spent so much time insisting i must have MLB network..
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on September 30, 2014, 01:22:23 pm
Thanks, Angelos.

He had nothing to do with it, and I'm no defender of Angelos.

TBS spent a fortune on the AL Playoff TV Contract thinking they'd get the Red Sox and/or the Yankees and all the ad revenue that comes with it.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on September 30, 2014, 01:32:39 pm
so glad I fought my cable company over 7 days...it was crazy.. i spent so much time insisting i must have MLB network..
I was perusing my sports channels and verified I had FS1 AND the MLB Network AND the NHL Network. For some reason I STILL don't have NBC Sports which is needed for hockey season. Argh. >:(
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on September 30, 2014, 01:38:13 pm
so glad I fought my cable company over 7 days...it was crazy.. i spent so much time insisting i must have MLB network..
I was perusing my sports channels and verified I had FS1 AND the MLB Network AND the NHL Network. For some reason I STILL don't have NBC Sports which is needed for hockey season. Argh. >:(
That's a weird cable system you're on. I've never heard of someone getting NHL Network without NBC Sports. Kooky.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on September 30, 2014, 01:40:23 pm
It's DirecTV. They gave us NBC Sports for the Olympics, but as soon as it was over they pulled it again. I still don't understand it. Really pisses me off because I enjoy their Wendesday rivalry nights. Not to mention the handful of Caps games they carry.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 30, 2014, 01:51:20 pm
I just get the four basic networks on my TV.

But there are two or three different "versions" of the channel. Like when some sports show was preempted by local programming, I switched to the second version of the channel, and found my sporting event there.

Is FS1 the second "version" of Fox, and I'll find baseball games only, or am I SOL because I don't have cable?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on September 30, 2014, 02:05:06 pm
or am I SOL because I don't have cable?

This one.  FS1 is a cable tier channel.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Nigel Tufnel on September 30, 2014, 03:49:28 pm
Thanks, Angelos.

He had nothing to do with it, and I'm no defender of Angelos.

TBS spent a fortune on the AL Playoff TV Contract thinking they'd get the Red Sox and/or the Yankees and all the ad revenue that comes with it.

Just a joke about Nats' fans persecution complex over MASN vs MASN2.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on September 30, 2014, 04:53:37 pm
Is FS1 the second "version" of Fox, and I'll find baseball games only, or am I SOL because I don't have cable?
To extrapolate on Smack's answer, the other major networks decided ABC/ESPN had a cable sports monopoly long enough and have started their own rival cable networks with Sportscenter-type programming and live games: NBC Sports Network, CBS Sports Net, and FS1 and FS2.

NBC Sports Net used to be called Vs and Outdoor Life, and its claim to fame is Premier League Soccer and NHL. FS1 has PST/MST college football and MLB baseball. (FS2 is highly limited and is what used to be Speed Network). CBS Sports is bringing up the rear with college sports that no one else wants to televise. And Jim rome, I guess.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on September 30, 2014, 05:03:09 pm
Jim Rome also has random commercials that air on CBS Radio stations [like 106.7 The Fan here in DC] and those 30 seconds are always fucking terrible. Why would any network want that asshole?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on September 30, 2014, 05:37:05 pm
Jim Rome also has random commercials that air on CBS Radio stations [like 106.7 The Fan here in DC] and those 30 seconds are always fucking terrible. Why would any network want that asshole?
Its not my sort of thing but his ratings speak for themselves, I guess. Hell, one of our all-time posters here has a Rome reference as their nickname...
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on September 30, 2014, 06:03:55 pm
I think I have them all except FS2 and BeIN (which I may have to remedy but I'm so down on soccer after the World Cup final that I dont' care to watch much soccer.. what is the point of watching Messi score 5 against Elche or some other worthless team when he couldn't get it done against Germany? FS2 would be cool though , I think, for the Champions League)

Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on September 30, 2014, 06:26:22 pm
one of our all-time posters here has a Rome reference as their nickname...

Close.  My nickname comes from a combination of my favorite player growing up (Andy Van Slyke) and my penchant for talking trash while playing sports as a kid.   I actually had the nickname before Rome and sold him (or his parent company) my AOL account back in the day.  I promptly signed up for an MSN account with the same moniker.

I rarely listen to Rome, except when my I know my friend Silk brah is going to be on.  The radio personality I am friends with is Matt "Money" Smith, who is syndicated though I'm not sure if he's in your area, and also has a Fantasy Football show on the NFL Network.  I prefer his wit to Rome's shtick.

Just a joke about Nats' fans persecution complex over MASN vs MASN2.

Gotcha.  Missed that...
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: James Ford on September 30, 2014, 06:35:39 pm
My wife will be happy with this news.

or am I SOL because I don't have cable?

This one.  FS1 is a cable tier channel.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on September 30, 2014, 06:37:52 pm
Jay Mohr is about the only radio guy I'd claim to like. I virtually never listen to sports radio though. I have heard Matt Smith guesting on another show, I think.

That's funny you sold Rome your AOL account. Classic. That story, does not suck. Sold an AOL account. Classic. You crack me up. Strong take. That is how it's done.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on September 30, 2014, 06:44:26 pm
80% of my time in the car is spent listening the Economist, read to me word for word by British people.
Then about 10% live sports (East Coast/Midwest Angels games from MLB radio).
Then about 7% SiriusXM.
Then about 3% tech podcasts.

That's funny you sold Rome your AOL account. Classic. That story, does not suck. Sold an AOL account. Classic. You crack me up. Strong take. That is how it's done.

Nicely done.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on September 30, 2014, 06:46:12 pm
80% of my time in the car is spent listening the Economist, read to me word for word by British people.
Uh, where are you getting that? I'm fairly certain I'm not getting a podcast of it with my print+digital subscription.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on September 30, 2014, 06:47:23 pm
Uh, where are you getting that? I'm fairly certain I'm not getting a podcast of it with my print+digital subscription.

http://www.economist.com/audio-edition

[EDIT] I decided to take out the snark as you may have been banned at the time. I discussed this some time ago as the ONLY way I can keep up.

I just changed your life. 4EVAH
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on September 30, 2014, 06:49:51 pm
Uh, where are you getting that? I'm fairly certain I'm not getting a podcast of it with my print+digital subscription.

http://www.economist.com/audio-edition

Where have you been?  I discussed this some time ago as the ONLY way I can keep up.
Oh my. I should probably unblock their weekly emails as I'm missing things. Now if only The New Yorker, Harpers, The Paris Review, and n+1 would follow suit...
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on September 30, 2014, 06:50:01 pm
obligatory http://www.theonion.com/articles/according-to-the-economist-nasa-is-an-industrial-s,11532/
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on September 30, 2014, 06:51:11 pm

I just changed your life. 4EVAH
Not even that much of an overstatement.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on September 30, 2014, 06:51:30 pm
obligatory http://www.theonion.com/articles/according-to-the-economist-nasa-is-an-industrial-s,11532/

Obligatory Counterpiont: http://www.theonion.com/articles/the-economist-to-halt-production-for-month-to-let,20090/
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on September 30, 2014, 07:18:17 pm
obligatory http://www.theonion.com/articles/according-to-the-economist-nasa-is-an-industrial-s,11532/

Obligatory Counterpiont: http://www.theonion.com/articles/the-economist-to-halt-production-for-month-to-let,20090/

mmhm.  i let my subscription lapse last year because i couldn't keep doing it to myself.  time now reads like a dr. seuss book in comparison.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on October 01, 2014, 11:44:26 am
I'm going to Game 2 on Saturday... my first playoff game...

got to work on my wardrobe..

Wear your gnome hat...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/wp/2014/10/01/nats-encourage-fans-to-wear-gnome-hats-to-games-but-it-was-fans-who-started-the-practice/
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on October 01, 2014, 12:11:43 pm
Kevin Fransden called into The Fan and asked fans for a "Red Out", so be sure to wear all red too!

Anyone know what channel the game is supposed to be on? Gonna have to go on a media black out and DVR this thing...
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on October 01, 2014, 12:29:06 pm
Anyone know what channel the game is supposed to be on? Gonna have to go on a media black out and DVR this thing...

It's on Fox Sports 1 for certain.  It's the time that's not certain - either noonish or 3ish depending on todays game.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 01, 2014, 12:49:37 pm
WAs he also begging for a spot on the playoff roster? Seems like it's either him or Hairston.

Kevin Fransden called into The Fan and asked fans for a "Red Out", so be sure to wear all red too!

Anyone know what channel the game is supposed to be on? Gonna have to go on a media black out and DVR this thing...
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on October 01, 2014, 12:55:15 pm
Kevin Fransden called into The Fan and asked fans for a "Red Out", so be sure to wear all red too!
Funny, folks are doing this for the University of Michigan game in 10 days but for a completely different set of reasons altogether.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on October 01, 2014, 12:57:14 pm
WAs he also begging for a spot on the playoff roster? Seems like it's either him or Hairston.

Kevin Fransden called into The Fan and asked fans for a "Red Out", so be sure to wear all red too!

Anyone know what channel the game is supposed to be on? Gonna have to go on a media black out and DVR this thing...
I think Hairston is the odd man out.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on October 01, 2014, 12:57:58 pm
Anyone know what channel the game is supposed to be on? Gonna have to go on a media black out and DVR this thing...

It's on Fox Sports 1 for certain.  It's the time that's not certain - either noonish or 3ish depending on todays game.
Rooting for the later start so.... Giants? Yeesh.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on October 03, 2014, 05:51:40 pm
Bases loaded, 2 outs and Bochy brings in the rookie?

That's some balls.  And a future closer with that gas.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on October 03, 2014, 06:15:56 pm
that was a mantle home run by Harper there. Holy shit
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on October 03, 2014, 06:53:16 pm
that was a mantle home run by Harper there. Holy shit

that was insane.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on October 03, 2014, 07:14:31 pm
that was a mantle home run by Harper there. Holy shit

that was insane.


It was one run.  Camden Yards was insane.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on October 03, 2014, 07:23:26 pm
that was a mantle home run by Harper there. Holy shit

that was insane.


It was one run.  Camden Yards was insane.
pour it on why won't you?

 ;D

it seemed like quite the blast but i guess i just imagined it..

i will say harper's biggest at bat was the next one and he didn't get it done....sad outcome
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on October 03, 2014, 07:26:31 pm
Next   
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on October 03, 2014, 07:27:31 pm
that was a mantle home run by Harper there. Holy shit

that was insane.


It was one run.  Camden Yards was insane.
pour it on why won't you?

 ;D

it seemed like quite the blast but i guess i just imagined it..

i will say harper's biggest at bat was the next one and he didn't get it done....sad outcome

I was just going to go back and alter that to make it less snarky.  I just don't care for the guy that much.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on October 03, 2014, 07:32:11 pm
Doesn't matter. That was an absolute bomb. Five rows into the third deck, 114 mph off the bat? Come on.

Tough loss but plenty of positives. Strasburg was good, as was Harper. Cabrera homer was a nice surprise

Zimmerman tomorrow. No panic mode yet
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on October 03, 2014, 07:32:45 pm
that was a mantle home run by Harper there. Holy shit

that was insane.


It was one run.  Camden Yards was insane.
pour it on why won't you?

 ;D

it seemed like quite the blast but i guess i just imagined it..

i will say harper's biggest at bat was the next one and he didn't get it done....sad outcome

I was just going to go back and alter that to make it less snarky.  I just don't care for the guy that much.

well I can't stand him but it was a mammoth homer.. but the at bat after that home run was the one where he could have finally silenced me...

alas no.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on October 03, 2014, 07:55:47 pm
Here ya go

http://deadspin.com/bryce-harper-killed-a-baseball-into-the-sky-1642319633
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on October 03, 2014, 07:56:46 pm
desmonds at bat there was far worse than bryces. the more of those i see from him the less i worry about losing him to free agency

then i remember the nats have no major league ready middle infield prospects and i change my mind again
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on October 03, 2014, 09:15:26 pm
desmonds at bat there was far worse than bryces.


good point
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on October 03, 2014, 09:26:27 pm
espinosa to pinch hit with two outs in the 9th was an odd call.

frandsens not a great player but id trust him to at least hang in there and work a count and maybe make something happen to get that extremely productive span/rendon combo back up.

instead we got espinosa meekly hitting the first pitch he saw

schierholtz as a pinch hitter was a nice surprise

i was happy with strasburgs outing. he has a tendency to let situations get into his head (and as much as he and the nats would downplay it, his postseason debut was a big one) but he didnt seem to do that today. he was victimized by some well placed groundballs and that bunt laroche threw to second. not really strasburgs fault.

i expect a great outing from jordan tomorrow
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on October 03, 2014, 09:40:09 pm
my main concern remains that the Giants are postseason giants.. kind of like what I'm watching with the Cardinals right now... Kershaw who?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on October 03, 2014, 10:04:31 pm
yup, experience is gonna be key

though funny you mention kershaw. watching this stl/la game right now and thinking of the shields/lster game, plus scherzer and verlander. strasburgs outing today was the most "ace-like" of the bunch. playoff baseball. you just cant predict it

i cant shake this impending giants/cards nlcs feeling :\
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on October 03, 2014, 10:15:32 pm
strasburgs outing today was the most "ace-like" of the bunch. playoff baseball. you just cant predict it

Sure, if you discount other performances to meet your criteria:

STATS   IP   H   R   ER   BB   SO   WHIP   ERA
Peavy   5.2   2   0   0   3   3   0.88   0.00

STATS   IP   H   R   ER   BB   SO   WHIP   ERA
Strasburg   5.0   8   2   1   1   2   1.80   1.80
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on October 03, 2014, 10:23:33 pm
wasnt talking about peavy at all

just comparing strasburg today to the other big name pitchers of the playoffs so far

strasburg wasnt great but he wasnt bad either. he kept the nats more in the game than most #1 pitchers so far could claim.

peavy was great, obviously, but no one puts him in that tier of pitchers with kershaw, wainwright, etc

thats kidna my point
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on October 03, 2014, 11:17:26 pm
You included Verlander and said that only going 5 innings was Ace Like so I was confused.

He was barely in the top 4 starting performances today and isn't in the top 7 or 8 in the playoffs so far, but if it help you sleep well tonight, Strasburg was Ace Like. 
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on October 03, 2014, 11:51:48 pm
i never said that at all. notice the quotation marks around ace-like. im not even praising stephen (i explicitly said i dont think he was great today. maybe you missed that), just comparing his outing to other, costlier outings by big name pitchers so far. people talk about strasburg and whether or not he belongs in the conversation of the leagues aces so its more interesting to me to compare his playoff performance to kershaw, wainwright, scherzer, etc than jake peavy. go ahead and keep arguing whatever youre arguing though.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on October 03, 2014, 11:59:28 pm
my point is for all the marquee billing big name pitching matchups get you never know in advance what the best postseason games will be. thats the fun of the whole thng
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on October 04, 2014, 05:33:54 am
No ace, great 'pen.  That formula can work as well.   ;D
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on October 04, 2014, 08:29:05 pm
Drew Storen.  Wow.  Good guy.  Bad luck.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on October 04, 2014, 08:34:02 pm
Drew Storen.  Wow.  Good guy.  Bad luck.

he made his pitch. sandoval was just on it the whole time.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on October 04, 2014, 08:43:12 pm
Seemed safe at the plate to me.  Even in slo-mo.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on October 04, 2014, 08:46:25 pm
I think it could have gone either way but since they called out on the field it was tough to overturn

Of course it came down to a posey play at the plate
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on October 04, 2014, 09:03:52 pm
this is ugly.  sometimes an ump will give the corners of the plate, but rarely do you see such a narrow, long strike zone. 
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on October 04, 2014, 09:31:35 pm
that strike three to cabrera was a strike. weird strike zone tonight, but you cant take that pitch.

more importantly, this does not bode well for storens longterm future here. fair or not, all the progress hes made towards assuming the closers role is gone.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on October 04, 2014, 09:40:23 pm
that strike three to cabrera was a strike. weird strike zone tonight, but you cant take that pitch.

more importantly, this does not bode well for storens longterm future here. fair or not, all the progress hes made towards assuming the closers role is gone.

that 2-0 strike call on harper was bad.  cabrera's called strike three was close and you're right, he can't take that pitch. but his strike two is called a ball 99% of the time.   either way, they seem lost at the plate all day.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on October 04, 2014, 09:43:55 pm
that 2-0 strike call on harper was bad. but his strike two is called a ball 99% of the time.   either way, they seem lost at the plate all day.
agree with all of this

weird zone but tough to find sympathy for an offense thats missed this many chances so far. dont put the game in the umpires hands and youll have nothing to complain about. serious shades of 2012 with these guys right now. somethings gotta change and fast

rendon though, that guy is something else.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 04, 2014, 09:48:09 pm
bottle shares>NLDS

Steve Wizzle we missed you tonight.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on October 04, 2014, 09:48:38 pm
ha ha i was about to correct myself... obviously except rendon.

matt williams has his work cut out for himself to get these guys ready for game 3, regardless of the outcome of this game.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on October 04, 2014, 09:51:40 pm
bottle shares>NLDS

Steve Wizzle we missed you tonight.

ah, i miss 930 bottleshares. in honor, i'll go ahead and open a 750ml and share it all with myself.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on October 04, 2014, 11:25:21 pm
this is just gorgeous.

http://scores.espn.go.com/mlb/boxscore?gameId=341004120&teams=san-francisco-giants-vs-washington-nationals
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on October 04, 2014, 11:27:44 pm
I would like this thing to get to a nice even 20 innings.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on October 04, 2014, 11:30:07 pm
I would like this thing to get to a nice even 20 innings.

i wanted at least 18 to call it two full games, and i got my wish.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on October 05, 2014, 12:05:11 am
Misery loves company.

You know where to find me.  And Julian.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on October 05, 2014, 12:12:38 am
is there an al anon-like group for our significant others?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on October 05, 2014, 12:14:19 am
And yet after 18 innings Harper's hair still looked magnificent.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on October 05, 2014, 01:36:05 am
well I was there tonight... that fucking blew


Matt Williams is an idiot.. taking out Jordan Zim because of a rather iffy walk WITH TWO OUTS..give me a break..for Drew Storen...three pitches...two hits... oh and Posey was safe!


I stuck around all 18 innings....

Harper showed up the ump , then Cabrera showed him up went wild and got tossed... then Matt Williams got tossed....WTF? What the fuck for??? Yeah the ump fucked up but what do you accomplish by losing your cool?

Rendon was a beast...4 hits...a walk, a stolen base...

Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on October 05, 2014, 04:47:13 am
Matt Williams is an idiot.. taking out Jordan Zim because of a rather iffy walk WITH TWO OUTS..give me a break..for Drew Storen...three pitches...two hits... oh and Posey was safe!
in hindsight yeah but i think most managers would have made the exact same move. with as good as storens been lately, you trust him to get one out

sandovals just one of those guys that continues to come up big when it counts
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on October 05, 2014, 10:02:09 am
no way.. not in hindsight.. I thought it was the wrong move when it was made and I called it...

most managers lately are messing up taking their starters out too early for relievers that end up blowing the game


Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on October 05, 2014, 10:10:22 am
Only positive was there were two president races last night... they did it again in 9 innings after the first so there was a second race in the 13th inning.. Teddy won both times!
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on October 05, 2014, 10:53:02 am
storen ended the season on a dominant run. you trust him in that situation, regardless of playoff history. zimmermann didnt look done, but i had no problem with the move. if psey goes deep on jordan, williams is crucified for leaving him in.

either way, the blame falls totally on the offense. pitching staff has allowed 5 runs in 27 playoff innings. that should be more than enough for at least one win.

the bright side is fister is the guy id most want on the mound against bumgarner on the road with the series on the line. after bumgarner san fran's starting pitching situation is iffy (id read they planned on using petit in game 4 but he threw a lot last night so who knows. hopefully they give lincecum a shot. nats always hit him hard) so games 4 and 5 could easily go either way. someones probably gonna scratch out a 1-0 win on monday, just hope its the nats
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on October 05, 2014, 11:08:46 am
i hope zimmerman starts game 3. both his pinch hit at bats have looked good, and i just feel like having him in the lineup all night could be the boost they need. i wouldnt bench harper or cabrera when theyve provided half the offense so far though. can zim's hamstring handle first base?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on October 05, 2014, 01:02:01 pm
i hope zimmerman starts game 3. both his pinch hit at bats have looked good, and i just feel like having him in the lineup all night could be the boost they need. i wouldnt bench harper or cabrera when theyve provided half the offense so far though. can zim's hamstring handle first base?

you're always so upbeat...even down 2-0 after a game we needed to and should have won..heading to San Francisco..

harper??? what was he last night?? 0-7??? He also had that great move where he showed up the umpire and deserved to be kicked out...

When are people going to realize Harper is nothing.... every time I go "Ok Harper, if you take advantage of this situation I'll stand corrected.. prove me wrong!" ... He never does.

I wont' even talk about the Storen coming in thing since if you cant see that taking out your pitcher when he hasn't given up a hit in like a whole bunch of innings with two outs and a runner on because of an ump's mistake is stupid... the Giants said they were most pleased to see Storen and they showed it....

some people let their fandom get in the way of common sense..

I could write an essay on what a great player Rendon is.... so I think I recognize a guy who knows how to play the game...

sadly its turned out like i kind of thought it would.. the giants know how to play in the playoffs and our guys by and large don't...hudson was right..... and bochy is three times the manager matt williams is...
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on October 05, 2014, 01:13:29 pm
I saw a tweet - The Nats are the Caps without the ice.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on October 05, 2014, 01:19:43 pm
I saw a tweet - The Nats are the Caps without the ice.

funny you say that..people were talking about that on the metro after the game...there was a real sense of deflation about DC sports teams...
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on October 05, 2014, 01:32:07 pm
I wont' even talk about the Storen coming in thing since if you cant see that taking out your pitcher when he hasn't given up a hit in like a whole bunch of innings with two outs and a runner on because of an ump's mistake is stupid... the Giants said they were most pleased to see Storen and they showed it....

some people let their fandom get in the way of common sense..

so you're suggesting, in hindsight, it was the incorrect call to pull zimm and go with storen?

what a bold take.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on October 05, 2014, 01:33:15 pm
i dont think im being too upbeat. the offense has been terrible, last night was a brutal loss, and tomorrow will be insanely tough. but the pitching has been good. obviously not as good as the miserable offense requires them to be, but theyve done their part. the offense just needs to give them more margin for error.

 with fister on the mound tomorrow i have hope.  not a lot of it, but some. seems like he was always the guy that came through in the must win games this season. even if they win monday its still a tough road ahead (and would require a top notch gio start, and a better strasburg start) but crazier things have happened. the 2012 bats came alive after a poor start to the playoffs (though of course we know how that ended) so who knows. scratch out a win however possible tomorrow and go from there.

i didnt say harper (or cabrera) had a great game yesterday (its clear only one nats hitter did) but with such slim pickings from the offense so far, their home runs on friday stand out so i wouldnt bench them. probably all a moot point since if zim's hamstring was up for playing the field hed have done so by now but its a shame to only get one at bat a night out of him when hes one of the only guys that still looks like himself at the plate.

of course with all the talk of desmonds kid he might miss a game in san fran and force ryan to start, and i cant say im too upset about that. desmond looks especially lost

agree on harper yelling at the ump btw. never do that in the middle of an at bat. im very surprised he wasnt tossed. cabrera also shouldnt have gotten himself tossed (yell all you want but when you slam the bat you give the ump no choice), and williams DEFINITELY shouldnt have. that stand up for your players idea is nice in the regular season but you cannot force your team to go into extra innings in the playoffs with no manager.

but again, all of the manager/pitching talk is avoiding the real issue. idk what these guys all did betwen sunday and friday but that roll they were on came to a grinding halt
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on October 05, 2014, 01:39:07 pm
and didnt bochy do with hudson essentially what williams did with jordan? cruising starter pulled at the first sign of late inning trouble?

i think bochys a great manager ftr and williams is definitely still learning. but tell me why bochy made the right move and willians didnt
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on October 05, 2014, 01:47:32 pm
Misery loves company.

You know where to find me.  And Julian.
I got up this morning, went to brunch, had two Mimosas and a bloody Mary, went back home went to bed and am just now getting up to read this.

I, for one, welcome our new oriole overlords!
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on October 05, 2014, 01:48:07 pm
I wont' even talk about the Storen coming in thing since if you cant see that taking out your pitcher when he hasn't given up a hit in like a whole bunch of innings with two outs and a runner on because of an ump's mistake is stupid... the Giants said they were most pleased to see Storen and they showed it....

some people let their fandom get in the way of common sense..

so you're suggesting, in hindsight, it was the incorrect call to pull zimm and go with storen?

what a bold take.

look dude i didn't film myself talking with my friend at last night's game at Nats Stadium telling him I didnt like the hook so I can't "prove it" but you'll just have to take my word for it that I didn't' like it.... or not.

I mean WTF? Why does it have to be assumed that its in "hindsight"??? Aren't there many reasons why at the time someone would have felt Jordan should have been left in? He'd been unhittable (three hits all night), was just at 100 pitches, etc and there were two outs and a runner on first on a questionable base on balls.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on October 05, 2014, 02:00:52 pm
is there an al anon-like group for our significant others?

I'm just letting her pick from the forbidden shelf in the cellar....
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on October 05, 2014, 02:04:13 pm
When are people going to realize Harper is nothing....

3 seasons ago?  And I'm pretty sure you disagreed with me on it.


every time I go "Ok Harper, if you take advantage of this situation I'll stand corrected.. prove me wrong!" ... He never does.

Maybe if you tried saying it to his face....
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on October 05, 2014, 02:07:11 pm
I saw a tweet - The Nats are the Caps without the ice.

I had an entertaining exchange with Hoya most of the night, but this part was my favorite:

Smackie:  They're out of the High Life at this bar.  This is a problem...
Hoya: I've been out of beer for 11 innings now.
Smackie: Touche
Hoya: No flask was a bad call
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on October 05, 2014, 02:17:44 pm
When are people going to realize Harper is nothing....

3 years ago?

I think you need to update your closing for the postseason.....  27=34
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on October 05, 2014, 02:51:34 pm
I wont' even talk about the Storen coming in thing since if you cant see that taking out your pitcher when he hasn't given up a hit in like a whole bunch of innings with two outs and a runner on because of an ump's mistake is stupid... the Giants said they were most pleased to see Storen and they showed it....

some people let their fandom get in the way of common sense..

so you're suggesting, in hindsight, it was the incorrect call to pull zimm and go with storen?

what a bold take.

look dude i didn't film myself talking with my friend at last night's game at Nats Stadium telling him I didnt like the hook so I can't "prove it" but you'll just have to take my word for it that I didn't' like it.... or not.

I mean WTF? Why does it have to be assumed that its in "hindsight"??? Aren't there many reasons why at the time someone would have felt Jordan should have been left in? He'd been unhittable (three hits all night), was just at 100 pitches, etc and there were two outs and a runner on first on a questionable base on balls.

everyone all of a sudden becomes an expert in hindsight. i'm not questioning whether or not that your word is good, i'm suggesting that everyone has those same questions and thoughts throughout the game. i probably speak for everyone when i say i question moves, pitch choice, pitch location, batter line-up, rotation use, bullpen use, etc. constantly. rarely do my "scenarios" play out, and when they do, i don't pat myself on the back for them. i asked the same question "is this really the move matt williams should be making? jordan's been on fire the last 18 innings".  but then i remembered that ball yelich crushed a few days ago, and i saw a frustrated zimmerman who wasn't getting his calls, and i saw a hungry buster posey and pablo sandoval waiting who could easily make it 2-1 in one swing.  zimmerman was attacking the zone, as he always does, but that strike zone seemed to get narrow that inning.  storen was brought in to pitch around the zone, and that pitch he made to pablo just hung up a little bit too much. sometimes hitters still can get the best of you.  plus, you've got the best pen in baseball that's obviously going to have to be trusted on throughout the post-season. 
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on October 05, 2014, 03:24:18 pm
I think you need to update your closing for the postseason.....  27=34

Too soon.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 05, 2014, 04:17:26 pm
Timely article in the Post today about the possible Beltway Series. Seems like they're noy paying attention to what's actually going on.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on October 06, 2014, 10:16:25 am
Home plate umpire Vic Carapazza tossed Washington?s Asdrubal Cabrera for arguing balls and strikes, and Williams came out to defend his player. Williams shouted a few words at Carapazza, then appeared to tell the umpire ?you have got to throw me out of this [expletive] game right now.?

That's pretty dumb.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on October 06, 2014, 10:19:40 am
Was at the game on Saturday. Froze to death. We were in section 229 which had an awesome vacuum effect. We moved over to the Red Porch in the 8th THINKING we were about to wrap this puppy up. Then the Giants struck. It deflated that whole damn stadium. It only got worse inning after inning. My buddy had to go to work so I had to run out to the car and let him grab all his work stuff and I couldn't get back in the car. It was the 15th inning. I happily thawed out in my car. Seeing that team in person was something else. When someone would get on base they would get all fired up AND THEN COULDN'T ADVANCE ANY RUNNER 1 FUCKING BASE OVER. It was maddening. Inning after inning. What's the definition of madness again? Williams has to do something. Put Zimmerman in, swap the line-up around, give the guys a gun or something. I dunno. I can't handle watching the Nats and the Skins lose in the same night back to back.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on October 06, 2014, 10:47:18 am
did you get, a hot dog and a soda pop? 
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on October 06, 2014, 11:03:33 am
Chicken, fries, and a couple beers. I heard they re-opened Shake Shack in the 14th or 15th inning?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on October 06, 2014, 11:56:16 am
Seeing that team in person was something else. When someone would get on base they would get all fired up AND THEN COULDN'T ADVANCE ANY RUNNER 1 FUCKING BASE OVER. It was maddening. Inning after inning. What's the definition of madness again? Williams has to do something.

insanity... trying the same thing over and over again expecting a different result.

ned yost would have had this game over no later than the 12th.  for better or for worse.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on October 06, 2014, 12:10:02 pm
That's pretty dumb.

Should have just called him a cocksucker.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on October 06, 2014, 01:26:35 pm
people keep making the argument "thats what got us to the post season..."


THE POST SEASON IS DIFFERENT


it was cold, the wind was blowing way in, and the pressure on the hitters is way magnified in the postseason.... all these factors, added to the obvious (he only gave up a questionable walk, was only at 100 pitches, hadn't given up a hit in forever) mean it was stupid for Matt Williams to take Jordan Zimmermann out

People say: well the hitters have to hit....

But its not unusual in the postseason to see these very low scoring games...its not LIKE the regular season.. and you have to coach a bit different.. you have to make adjustments...
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on October 06, 2014, 01:27:59 pm
Hopefully Williams makes the adjustments... Giants released their line-up with no changes. Is the Nats line-up out yet?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on October 06, 2014, 01:52:22 pm
yes it is. same as games 1 and 2, so no zimmerman
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on October 06, 2014, 02:00:14 pm
That's surprising. I guess he's showing confidence in his guys.

We're due! Right?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on October 06, 2014, 04:41:43 pm
That's surprising. I guess he's showing confidence in his guys.

We're due! Right?

it's the right call.  you dance with the one that brought you to the dance. 

i'm buying in that this series goes to 5. 
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on October 06, 2014, 04:53:26 pm
i think more than anything it shows that zim's injury was worse than anyone ever admitted. with the offense as miserable as its been i think williams would gladly sacrifice defense to get ryans bat in there, provided his hamstring is up for a full game. apparenty thats still not the case

not that theyre required to fully disclose these things but its kinda a bummer that with all the talk about him over the last month he never fully came back like rumored
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on October 06, 2014, 07:59:37 pm
well storen is not inspiring much confidence, but what a win that was. even the outs were mostly well hit balls.

at least they sounded that way. i dont get mlb network anymore so i was listening to the whole game this time.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on October 06, 2014, 08:13:39 pm
what a catch by bryce harper!
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on October 06, 2014, 08:22:16 pm
just saw it. good game for him all around. that home run was a bomb

its amazing how often you see pitchers make throwing errors like that. obviously against someone as good as bumgarner you take runs where you can get them

just another reminder of how good that fister trade turned out
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on October 06, 2014, 08:25:20 pm
I can definitely agree that Fister trade was phenomenal.. First bunch of innings the team looked just as bad hitting wise as they had the last game... how many innings did they go without scoring? Got to be over 20... but that throw really helped out..

who starts Game 4? Gio, right? They won't pitch Strasburg on short rest?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on October 06, 2014, 08:31:01 pm
agree on the early hitting, but scoring a few runs, even aided on an error, has to be a huge load off. like i said, at least people were hitting the ball tonight. and tense as it was, storen got the save. lots of takeaways.

gio tomorrow night, presumably with a very short leash (and maybe strasburg ready in the bullpen?). i saw a mention of zimmermann for game 5 if it gets there, but maybe he shows up tomorrow prepared to throw in relief instead? couple ways they could play it. i think zimmermanns more capable of coming in from the pen, but strasburg after a few innings of gio could mess up the giants lineup big time.

nats have hit vogelsong hard recently so who knows.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on October 06, 2014, 08:43:00 pm
hey a win's a win..don't matter how you get it...

Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on October 06, 2014, 08:44:47 pm
When are people going to realize Harper is nothing.... every time I go "Ok Harper, if you take advantage of this situation I'll stand corrected.. prove me wrong!" ... He never does.

in hindsight, what a stupid thing to say.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on October 06, 2014, 09:11:52 pm
When are people going to realize Harper is nothing.... every time I go "Ok Harper, if you take advantage of this situation I'll stand corrected.. prove me wrong!" ... He never does.

in hindsight, what a stupid thing to say.

I don't think so... He still has yet to prove himself.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 06, 2014, 09:16:00 pm
No sooner than the Nats had won game three, I received an offer to buy NLCS tickets. Now there's organizational confidence.

Under the odd chance they they don't make it, I'd assume the cost of the ticket would be refunded. Would the ticket fees be refunded as well?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on October 06, 2014, 09:20:11 pm
they refund your ticket price obviously..but not the fees I think....not sure on the fees...my friend has like $2000 pending on how they do!
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on October 06, 2014, 09:27:50 pm
When are people going to realize Harper is nothing.... every time I go "Ok Harper, if you take advantage of this situation I'll stand corrected.. prove me wrong!" ... He never does.

in hindsight, what a stupid thing to say.

I don't think so... He still has yet to prove himself.

He'll be 22 in 10 days.  22.  (I can't believe I'm defending him.)
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on October 06, 2014, 09:40:50 pm
When are people going to realize Harper is nothing.... every time I go "Ok Harper, if you take advantage of this situation I'll stand corrected.. prove me wrong!" ... He never does.

in hindsight, what a stupid thing to say.

I don't think so... He still has yet to prove himself.

He'll be 22 in 10 days.  22.  (I can't believe I'm defending him.)

If he becomes a better ballplayer I'll be the first to admit it.. even if he remains a prick.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on October 06, 2014, 10:16:26 pm
No sooner than the Nats had won game three, I received an offer to buy NLCS tickets. Now there's organizational confidence.

Under the odd chance they they don't make it, I'd assume the cost of the ticket would be refunded. Would the ticket fees be refunded as well?

Tickets are refunded. Fees were initially not refunded two years ago, but everyone made a stink about it and I think they are now refunded as well.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on October 06, 2014, 10:18:22 pm
When are people going to realize Harper is nothing.... every time I go "Ok Harper, if you take advantage of this situation I'll stand corrected.. prove me wrong!" ... He never does.

in hindsight, what a stupid thing to say.

I don't think so... He still has yet to prove himself.

He'll be 22 in 10 days.  22.  (I can't believe I'm defending him.)

If he becomes a better ballplayer I'll be the first to admit it.. even if he remains a prick.

I was such a prick when I was 22. I just don't get why everyone pours it on this kid.

Hell of a game by him today. Rendon holds this team together, but Bryce is the face. That's got to be weird as a 22 year old kid.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on October 06, 2014, 10:31:40 pm

I was such a prick when I was 22.

Really?

I was such a nice guy....



Rendon is the man.....
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on October 07, 2014, 10:17:34 am
When are people going to realize Harper is nothing.... every time I go "Ok Harper, if you take advantage of this situation I'll stand corrected.. prove me wrong!" ... He never does.

in hindsight, what a stupid thing to say.

I don't think so... He still has yet to prove himself.
Only 1 more player has hit more homers in a playoff series than him at that age. I say he's on course. Who else has 2 homers on the Giants in this series?

I got a notification that Strasburg was ready to go in yeserday's game if they needed him, so I imagine it would be the same situation tonight. Seeing Zim for game 5 and hopefully that would mean Stras in game 1 of the NLCS. 1 game at a time for now though.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on October 07, 2014, 10:19:12 am
No sooner than the Nats had won game three, I received an offer to buy NLCS tickets. Now there's organizational confidence.

Under the odd chance they they don't make it, I'd assume the cost of the ticket would be refunded. Would the ticket fees be refunded as well?
My friend showed me his game 5 tickets when we went to game 2 on Saturday. They went on sale with the first 2 games didn't they?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 07, 2014, 11:11:18 am
Certainly possible. You follow more closely than me. I was just posting based on a presale email I got.

No sooner than the Nats had won game three, I received an offer to buy NLCS tickets. Now there's organizational confidence.

Under the odd chance they they don't make it, I'd assume the cost of the ticket would be refunded. Would the ticket fees be refunded as well?
My friend showed me his game 5 tickets when we went to game 2 on Saturday. They went on sale with the first 2 games didn't they?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on October 07, 2014, 11:24:42 pm
I could see Harper's towering shot from my couch hit the drink about 5 seconds before I saw it on TV.   
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on October 08, 2014, 01:05:22 am
sad day for baseball.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on October 08, 2014, 07:22:17 am
sad day for baseball in DC.

Fixed it
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on October 08, 2014, 07:24:10 am
I could see Harper's towering shot from my couch hit the drink about 5 seconds before I saw it on TV.   

I don't get the people that float around out there hoping for a splashdown.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 08, 2014, 08:55:51 am
I blame Steve Wizzle for the loss. For  saying this thing was going five. For that, I'd like to recommend and insist that he drink this beer called Old Style every time he wants a beer on his next trip to Chicago.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on October 08, 2014, 09:56:33 am
That was a huge bummer. Super confused as to why we didn't see Clipp, Storen OR Stras. Uy. Fun season. Terrible finish.

Are people still going to give Bryce Harper shit? Or say you need veteran experience? From what I saw Harper and Rendon kind of carried this team and gave them the most opportunities offensively.... Wonder how different this would have been with a healthy Zimmerman. :\

Will be great to see a healthy line up next year. Hopefully We'll get more than 30 games out of the full line-up.

Go Royals!
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on October 08, 2014, 10:13:33 am
sad day for baseball in DC.

Fixed it

i'm a big fan of the LAD team. infinitely more fun to watch that StL.  out of all ths series match-ups, SF/StL is the most boring outcome. 
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on October 08, 2014, 10:16:40 am
I'm really hoping for the AL winner to take the Series because neither of those teams have won in a while. I have a sinking suspicion it'll be St. Louis yet again, though, and we'll hear four months of obnoxious cliches about "doing it the right way" and "best fans in baseball" and "the Lord loves a working man" and other such eye-rolling inanity.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Yada on October 08, 2014, 10:22:04 am
I'm really hoping for the AL winner to take the Series because neither of those teams have won in a while. I have a sinking suspicion it'll be St. Louis yet again, though, and we'll hear four months of obnoxious cliches about "doing it the right way" and "best fans in baseball" and "the Lord loves a working man" and other such eye-rolling inanity.

Best fans in baseball right here.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/10/07/1334938/--Video-St-Louis-Cardinals-fans-chant-for-Darren-Wilson-tell-protestors-to-get-jobs-go-to-Africa#
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on October 08, 2014, 10:31:57 am
I don't get it.... most people love Harper...I hardly think a few naysayers/skeptics change the fact he is almost universally revered...Must everyone agree he is the second coming?

Matt Williams blew that series Saturday when he took out Jordan Zimmerman...Giants are too good a postseason team to give up a 2-0 lead in a five game series... it just wasn't going to happen..
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on October 08, 2014, 10:55:17 am
I don't get the people that float around out there hoping for a splashdown.

I've never done it in a kayak, but I did sit out there one Sunday afternoon on a boat and it was a party.  We tied like 4 boats together and all the chicks were in bikinis and everybody has the game on the radio, drinking and having a good time.  Absent tickets to the game, it was a pretty fun way to listen to the game and still absorb the atmosphere of the crowd.

Last night was my first playoff game at home while the Giants were playing and it was a little annoying.  It was about a 7-10 second delay, so before Casillas even threw the last pitch to Harper, the fireworks had gone off and the crowd was going nuts.  It's not that bad for the local telecasts, so FS1 must be doing something differently.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on October 08, 2014, 11:15:22 am
Your scenario sounds great; bobbing around in a kayak not so much.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on October 08, 2014, 11:29:25 am
Your scenario sounds great; bobbing around in a kayak not so much.
I think the guy whole ultimately got that tater ball ended up jumping out of his kayak. At least that's what it looked like in the replay.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on October 08, 2014, 11:45:14 am
Matt Williams blew that series Saturday when he took out Jordan Zimmerman...Giants are too good a postseason team to give up a 2-0 lead in a five game series... it just wasn't going to happen..

i just want to go ahead and say: yes, he did.

it didn't work out, i understand the move and why he made it, but that was the point where the nats conceded the series.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on October 08, 2014, 11:52:23 am
I blame Steve Wizzle for the loss. For  saying this thing was going five. For that, I'd like to recommend and insist that he drink this beer called Old Style every time he wants a beer on his next trip to Chicago.

i was probably going to do that anyways.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on October 08, 2014, 12:39:34 pm
Your scenario sounds great; bobbing around in a kayak not so much.

I'm going to try it on some warm Sunday with a cooler of beers.  I bet I don't last past 4 innings.  You rent them on the other side of the stadium so it's a short paddle and it's fairly calm channel - we'll see.

I think the guy whole ultimately got that tater ball ended up jumping out of his kayak. At least that's what it looked like in the replay.

He did - though it was a relatively warm night.  Still, it was absolutely not worth it to me, but who knows what a collector gets for the 69th "Splash hit" and only the 3rd in post season.  Then it might have been worth it? 
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on October 08, 2014, 12:42:50 pm
Matt Williams blew that series Saturday when he took out Jordan Zimmerman...Giants are too good a postseason team to give up a 2-0 lead in a five game series... it just wasn't going to happen..

i just want to go ahead and say: yes, he did.

Are you guys union members?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on October 08, 2014, 01:09:54 pm
i don't get it
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on October 08, 2014, 02:32:05 pm
i don't get it


Blaming management when an individual doesn't get their job done.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on October 08, 2014, 03:17:59 pm
i don't get it
Blaming management when an individual doesn't get their job done.

i mean, i'd also blame the walking corpse that is adam laroche, drew storen for hanging that pitch, anthony rendon for not charging that bunt, the pitchers mound at giants stadium, mccatty for not having a mound visit before gio walks the first run home, cabrera for getting kicked out of the game and sticking us with espinosa for the rest of the game, and the umpire for squeezing zim in the 9th.

but the pivotal moment was pulling zimm. there was no coming back after that.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on October 08, 2014, 04:05:25 pm
i don't get it
Blaming management when an individual doesn't get their job done.

i mean, i'd also blame the walking corpse that is adam laroche, drew storen for hanging that pitch, anthony rendon for not charging that bunt, the pitchers mound at giants stadium, mccatty for not having a mound visit before gio walks the first run home, cabrera for getting kicked out of the game and sticking us with espinosa for the rest of the game, and the umpire for squeezing zim in the 9th.

but the pivotal moment was pulling zimm. there was no coming back after that.
What if all those other plays went the Nats way? Would pulling Zimm still have lost the series?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on October 08, 2014, 04:21:09 pm
i don't get it
Blaming management when an individual doesn't get their job done.

i mean, i'd also blame the walking corpse that is adam laroche, drew storen for hanging that pitch, anthony rendon for not charging that bunt, the pitchers mound at giants stadium, mccatty for not having a mound visit before gio walks the first run home, cabrera for getting kicked out of the game and sticking us with espinosa for the rest of the game, and the umpire for squeezing zim in the 9th.

but the pivotal moment was pulling zimm. there was no coming back after that.
What if all those other plays went the Nats way? Would pulling Zimm still have lost the series?

probably? baseball is a funny game.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on October 08, 2014, 05:12:47 pm
Nope. Zimm. That was it. They lost it right there.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on October 08, 2014, 05:30:33 pm
at least Harper had a breakout post-season.... maybe he's over the hump...imagine if he kept that up next year?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on October 09, 2014, 10:31:24 am
at least Harper had a breakout post-season.... maybe he's over the hump...imagine if he kept that up next year?
He was on pace for, let's say... 8 homers in the playoffs? If they went all the way. That's huge. If they won all the games I mean.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: James Ford on October 09, 2014, 10:45:32 am
He won't.

He'll stub his toe on some artificial turf, miss 40 games, and get like 43 rbi in the 110 games he does play.

at least Harper had a breakout post-season.... maybe he's over the hump...imagine if he kept that up next year?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on October 09, 2014, 11:32:23 am
I don't think Hunter Strickland was going to pitch to Harper again, so I'm not sure it's fair to say that he would have kept up that pace.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on October 09, 2014, 11:38:52 am
Since 1995, only five teams had a lower on-base percentage than the Nationals did this year in the NLDS. Just two had a lower batting average.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on October 09, 2014, 01:37:58 pm
Since 1995, only five teams had a lower on-base percentage than the Nationals did this year in the NLDS. Just two had a lower batting average.
Was one of the lower batting acg teams the Giants?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on October 09, 2014, 02:19:50 pm
Since 1995, only five teams had a lower on-base percentage than the Nationals did this year in the NLDS. Just two had a lower batting average.
Was one of the lower batting acg teams the Giants?

Reds 2010 and Dodgers 1996
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on October 09, 2014, 03:58:18 pm
Since 1995, only five teams had a lower on-base percentage than the Nationals did this year in the NLDS. Just two had a lower batting average.
Was one of the lower batting acg teams the Giants?

Reds 2010 and Dodgers 1996
Dang. Where were the Giants? They weren't much better than us.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on October 11, 2014, 01:35:27 pm
Nationals assistant GM announces he is leaving the organization (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/nationals-journal/wp/2014/10/10/nationals-assistant-gm-announces-he-his-leaving-the-organization/)

Should I apply?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on October 11, 2014, 02:32:39 pm
Nationals assistant GM announces he is leaving the organization (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/nationals-journal/wp/2014/10/10/nationals-assistant-gm-announces-he-his-leaving-the-organization/)

Should I apply?

Heck yeah!!
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on October 17, 2014, 07:44:08 pm
Mike (Long Island)

How concerned are you that Bryce Harper may never exhibit enough emotional maturity for people to give him whatever credit he may be due? He may be one of the best arguments against home schooling ever (perhaps a little association with people other than his dad might have helped him)

David Schoenfield  (4:36 PM)

He's 21.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on October 20, 2014, 11:11:25 am
^^^ He turned 22 a coupls days ago. The whole "He's immature" thing is so stupid. He's still INSANELY young. In the entire Nationals organization, I believe there is only 1 or 2 people way down in their farm systems that are younger. That's so crazy.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on October 30, 2014, 10:16:14 pm
Nats decline Laroche and Soriano options.... pick up Span...

Does this mean they are moving Zim to first?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on October 31, 2014, 09:55:32 am
Wasn't that the plan?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on October 31, 2014, 11:04:51 am
Does this mean they are moving Zim to first?

Yep.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on November 04, 2014, 05:30:06 pm
Andrew (NY) [via mobile]

Are you surprised by mike rizzos strange unwillingness to lock up the nats collection of phenomenal young players? Rendon....Harper....Strasburg....JZimm....Desmond......I feel like if this was another GM, at least half those guys would've signed cheap extensions early on. Are we looking at a mass exodus over next 2 years?

David Schoenfield  (1:47 PM)

Good question. I don't have a good answer. A Nationals beat guy who is more connected would know, but I guess I can only suggest this: How many of those are Scott Boras clients? Boras guys don't sign extensions, so that's probably one reason why.


Let me answer that for you, Dave:

Rendon (Boras)
Harper (Boras)
Strasburg (Boras)
JZimm (SFX)
Desmond (Sports One)
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on November 04, 2014, 05:36:23 pm
i wouldnt call it unwillingness. as you said, a bunch of boras guys there so thats no small task even bringing the subject up (though id love to see rendon signed longterm asap), and rizzo tried with desmond and zimmermann.

the time when he could have signed desmond to a really cheap extension was before he solidifed himself as an elite talent, so its hard to fault rizzo for not getting it done in that case. if hed locked him up for years and desmond never reached the next level rizzo would get panned for the move.

but i do think he'll pay up for desmond now, just cuz theres really no other choice. the nats have young pitchers almost ready if they lose zimmermann but who fills the void desmond (even with his flaws) leaves?

Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on November 11, 2014, 10:52:12 pm
im seeing zimmermann to the cubs talk starting to heat up

rizzo's moves tend to come out of nowhere so idk if this holds any water but the cubs have some middle infield prospects the nats could use. we'll see
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on November 12, 2014, 10:53:38 am
I'd be bummed to see JZimm leave DC. I've had fun watching that guy over the past couple of years since he returned from Tommy John.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on November 12, 2014, 03:41:32 pm
im seeing zimmermann to the cubs talk starting to heat up

rizzo's moves tend to come out of nowhere so idk if this holds any water but the cubs have some middle infield prospects the nats could use. we'll see

Do the Nats need a prospect or a 2B that can play now?

I'll give you Howie Kendrick for JZimm right now!  Though I doubt the Halo's can take on JZimm's $16.5m salary for next season.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on November 12, 2014, 07:25:04 pm
I call bullshit....If I traded him I'd have to get MAJOR stuff...prospects??? Are we high? I'd have to get a proven huge bat to even consider it... he's our ace and one of the best pitchers in baseball...

I don't think the Cubs have anything I want...
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on November 12, 2014, 07:29:59 pm
Maybe he's not agreeing to an extension the team feels is his correct value?

In that case, do you use him for one year and get a first round pick in return when he signs elsewhere, or do you improve the team with major league ready talent when his values the highest?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on November 12, 2014, 07:57:46 pm
Maybe he's not agreeing to an extension the team feels is his correct value?

In that case, do you use him for one year and get a first round pick in return when he signs elsewhere, or do you improve the team with major league ready talent when his values the highest?

I give him what he asks for..he's earned it. I'm not going to let my best pitcher go. I'd let Stras go ANY DAY before I let Jordan Zim go....

But if I were to let him go I'd take the first round pick.... not some "prospect"...

I feel teams are invariably wrong to give up their pitchers for very little in return.. a few teams this past year made some real head scratcher decisions.... Boston got Cespedes and somebody else and (I thought it made some sense for Boston is what I'm saying) we're only going to get a prospect???
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on November 12, 2014, 08:00:33 pm
i asked a chicago friend and he said the current round of rumors stemmed from a complete hack chicago journalist whos been at odds with cubs people for years.

so its unlikely, but rizzo  doesnt belong in the job if he wont at least listen to offers, and i imagine hell be getting plenty.

it is an interesting dilemma. i wouldnt support trading jordan for just prospects but prospects and a major league ready infielder? its a big gamble. 2015 isnt the end of the nats window but with jordan, desmond, fister, span, clippard all free agents after next year its probably the best shot theyre gonna have, so im inclined to think no major trade will happen this winter, but who knows. i certainly want zimmermann around longer but it would suck to lose him and only get a draft pick out of the deal.

of course that sting would be lessened by a 2015 world series trophy lead by zimmermann

Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on November 12, 2014, 08:02:33 pm
JZim and Rendon are the heart AND guts of the team.....Why should the Nats not keep JZim? Is attendance poor??? Come on now...
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on November 12, 2014, 08:05:11 pm
when I first read this I thought we were talking about RZim....

yeah, I'd let HIM go.. his body is done....but JZim is a workhorse.. I think he's our Bumgarden (sic)..if only Matt Williams had rode him like Bochy rode his beast...

By the way I was there that game and JZim was lights out and Rendon got at least four hits...

WHEN IT COUNTED THEY SHOWED UP.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on November 12, 2014, 08:06:43 pm
take it easy, im not saying they should get rid of him at all. i love watching him pitch and would send him out over strasburg any game 7. i hope he stays here next year and beyond, im just not optimistic about the beyond

just saying if there are offers, rizzo's got to at least listen. hes not doing his job if he doesnt.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on November 12, 2014, 08:11:51 pm
take it easy, im not saying they should get rid of him at all. i love watching him pitch and would send him out over strasburg any game 7. i hope he stays here next year and beyond, im just not optimistic about the beyond

just saying if there are offers, rizzo's got to at least listen. hes not doing his job if he doesnt.

oh I know..its not you making my blood boil..just the idea of losing him...

I agree Rizzo should listen to offers...but it would have to be something really sweet otherwise I just keep him...

I have this paranoia about the Lerner's being stingy.. not sure its warranted...
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on November 12, 2014, 08:29:23 pm
JZimm is not represented by Boras, so there's a decent chance he'll sign an extension.

But I think it's dangerous to act like this is up to the Nats - it's ultimately the players decision.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on November 12, 2014, 08:31:47 pm
JZimm is not represented by Boras, so there's a decent chance he'll sign an extension.

But I think it's dangerous to act like this is up to the Nats - it's ultimately the players decision.

well if he no longer wants to play for the Nats don't let the door hit you on the way out...

but I would make him a top offer....he should not think "i can do better MONEYwise elsewhere.."
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on November 12, 2014, 08:52:52 pm
the lerners do seem unwilling to extend the nats payroll much beyond where its at

maybe thats due to the masn uncertainty, idk. arent they the richest owners in the league or something?

i dont want the nats to become the phillies in a few years but itd be a shame if their contention window closes cuz they wouldnt open the wallets a bit more.

i dont think jordan is being especially greedy, it just seems hes not offering the nats any sort of discount.

personally im kinda hesitant about these big money pitcher deals. you can reasonably predict when a hitters numbers will start to fall (not that thats stopping teams from overpaying) but pitchers can lose it at any moment.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on November 13, 2014, 10:27:45 am
when I first read this I thought we were talking about RZim....

yeah, I'd let HIM go.. his body is done....but JZim is a workhorse.. I think he's our Bumgarden (sic)..if only Matt Williams had rode him like Bochy rode his beast...

By the way I was there that game and JZim was lights out and Rendon got at least four hits...

WHEN IT COUNTED THEY SHOWED UP.
I was also there. Rendon seemed to be the only constant in that line-up during the playoffs. It was awesome but such a shame. He should get standing ovations when he comes to bat, not Harper. Rendon busted his ass this season.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on November 13, 2014, 01:52:23 pm
Desmond supposedly turned down 7 years,  $107m deal last off season.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on November 13, 2014, 04:18:33 pm
Desmond supposedly turned down 7 years,  $107m deal last off season.
This is a heartfelt story with Desmond's own words on that deal. I'd like to believe him when he says what he says in this interview. Ian Desmond is by far my favorite Nationals player and this article pushes it over the edge. The guy is truly amazing and I believe he will stay with the Nats through his whole career. That's just me though.

If you have a couple minutes, this article is amazing:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/nationals/ian-desmond-has-become-the-backbone-of-the-washington-nationals/2014/03/30/50a68986-b798-11e3-a7c6-70cf2db17781_story.html
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on November 13, 2014, 08:00:48 pm
rendon 5th in mvp voting

very nice
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on November 14, 2014, 12:01:01 pm
rendon 5th in mvp voting

very nice
Dang! Didn't think he'd make it that high.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on November 16, 2014, 02:03:44 pm
Should the Nationals Trade Zimmerman? (http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/53499/should-nationals-trade-zimmermann)

I think you can't make the wrong decision.  If you get to the playoffs next season, keeping him is your best chance to win it all.  If you deal him, you have a better chance of succeeding in the long run.  The team is in pretty good shape either way.

I would try to move him this off season, but only do so with the right offer - something overwhelming.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on November 17, 2014, 05:39:16 pm
The Jason Heyward deal show what a team should do if they can't sign an extension - two young arms under control. 

The trade is also good news for the Nats, as the Braves are going to be much worse next season.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on November 18, 2014, 11:42:20 am
9 foot Jayson Werth made out of canned seafood:


(http://img.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/files/2014/11/werthseafood1114a.jpg)


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/wp/2014/11/18/nats-fans-make-9-foot-homage-to-jayson-werth-out-of-3800-worth-of-canned-seafood/
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on November 18, 2014, 12:11:40 pm
I was at Regan last night and they had a couple of these sculpture deals made out of cans as well.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on November 21, 2014, 08:40:45 pm
White Sox sign Adam LaRoche to a 2 yr/$25m deal...
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on November 21, 2014, 09:02:54 pm
White Sox sign Adam LaRoche to a 2 yr/$25m deal...

he was great for the nats but the team made the decision to go with ryan zim at first...

they DID NOT have to do that. i'm not second guessing it just pointing out only time will tell....
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on November 21, 2014, 11:16:03 pm
what other option was there?

zimmermann couldnt be traded, and they need his bat. id much rather rizzo have a whole offseason to look for a 2b/3b instead of going into another season hoping for the best from ryans arm at third and then having to improvise as soon as the throwing errors start. there certainly isnt room for him in the outfield

ive always liked laroche, even with his streakiness. i hope hes got a few more good years left, it was just bad timing for him in dc. if zimmermans throwing issues werent a thing laroches option for 2015 would have been a no brainer
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on November 23, 2014, 10:29:04 am
i dont get all these articles tying the nats to scherzer

im sure to some degree its just boras fanning the flames to drive up the price but i really hope its not true.

if rizzo and the lerners are hesitant to give big money to jordan why give bigger money to an older pitcher? i get the idea of dangling zimmermann as trade bait to fill the 2b (or 3b) hole but then going out and spending money on a pitcher anyway? i dont see it.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on November 23, 2014, 02:45:02 pm
It could always be that Jordan Zimmerman isn't accepting an offer and wants to test free agency....

Generally speaking, if you're looking at trading someone the season before their contract is up, the team has come to the realization that no matter what they do, he's not going to take it.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: imbecile on November 24, 2014, 10:12:50 am
Yeah, if does kinda seem like JZimm is interested in testing the market.

The Braves GM came out and said what we all assumed:  They traded Heyward because he was only interested in a two-year deal and wanted to test free agency.  Had to get what they could for him when they could.  This could very nearly be the identical situation the Nats are looking at with JZimm.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on November 24, 2014, 10:25:34 am
I think the Tigers are going to resign Scherzer at any price (or, at the very least offer him more money than anyone else; if he just hates Detroit there's nothing they can do there) and trade away Price to stock the farm system.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on December 05, 2014, 03:17:56 pm
Nationals outfielder Jayson Werth was found guilty of reckless driving today, five months after his Porsche 911 was clocked driving 105 mph in a 55 mph zone on the Beltway in Virginia. He loses his driver's license, and was sentenced to serve 10 days in jail, with the remaining 170 days suspended.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on December 05, 2014, 08:22:35 pm
Nationals outfielder Jayson Werth was found guilty of reckless driving today, five months after his Porsche 911 was clocked driving 105 mph in a 55 mph zone on the Beltway in Virginia. He loses his driver's license, and was sentenced to serve 10 days in jail, with the remaining 170 days suspended.

This belongs in the celebrity crime and scandal blog.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on December 09, 2014, 06:37:28 pm
Dan (Milwaukee)

There are some rumors out there that the Nats might be in on Scherzer. If they get that deal done and then look to move Zimmermann or Fister what are they looking for in return? Just a prospect package? They seem pretty set besides second.


David Schoenfield  (3:40 PM)

Yeah, that's my guess. Starting lining up prospects to replace Strasburg and Harper after they sign with the Yankees.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on December 09, 2014, 07:12:31 pm
Dan (Milwaukee)

There are some rumors out there that the Nats might be in on Scherzer. If they get that deal done and then look to move Zimmermann or Fister what are they looking for in return? Just a prospect package? They seem pretty set besides second.


David Schoenfield  (3:40 PM)

Yeah, that's my guess. Starting lining up prospects to replace Strasburg and Harper after they sign with the Yankees.
interesting

Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on December 09, 2014, 08:03:15 pm
i think we're more likely to see rizzo sign jordan and shop strasburg. zimmermann is the better pitcher now but with strasburgs ceiling, the low chance of resigning him, and an extra year of control, the return there could be better for the nats.

im also expecting a clippard trade at some point, but maybe thats too obvious a move. with the miller/robertson signings its pretty clear clippard wont be with the nats after 2015. i just dont see them paying that kind of money for an 8th inning guy

word is lesters decision is coming as soon as tonight. thatll set the starting pitching market and clear things up a bit for the nats
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on December 15, 2014, 10:09:23 am
2 year deal for Harper
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on December 15, 2014, 10:22:41 am
2 year deal for Harper
I'm never clear on what contracts mean or not... But wasn't his current deal through 2018? So now he's here til at least 2017? I'm confused.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on December 15, 2014, 03:09:05 pm
2 year deal for Harper
I'm never clear on what contracts mean or not... But wasn't his current deal through 2018? So now he's here til at least 2017? I'm confused.

Yes, this is not an extension.  He wasn't even arbitration eligible until next season, and a free agent until after the 2018 season.  The Nats agreed to pay him more than league minimum his first 5 seasons - they can renegotiate after 2016 or let him go to arbitration then.

This just clears up an issue that arose when he first signed with the Nats - there wasn't clarity between the organization and Boras as the deadline was approaching as to the duration of the contract (the language was left out of the final paperwork).  Boras thought Harper could opt out (and renegotiate), the Nats felt he couldn't and had to play through the term.

The players association filed a grievance on his behalf, and they were scheduled to go to an arbitrator tomorrow.  This two year deal extends Harper's existing deal one extra year (through 2016) in exchange for not opting out.  The Nats and Harper will be back at this in 2 years.

His missing fanfest however, was inexcusable.  He's a Nat through 2018 and citing a legal dispute about how much he's getting paid makes me dislike him even more.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on December 15, 2014, 03:27:01 pm
I don't dislike him. I think he needs to earn his stripes. Him getting standing ovations for general at bats is fucking stupid. The city or "baseball fans" seem to love him. I think it's shitty for him to miss the NatsFest over a contract negotiation.

We'll see if he can produce in the regular season...
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on December 15, 2014, 04:01:59 pm
2 year deal for Harper
I'm never clear on what contracts mean or not... But wasn't his current deal through 2018? So now he's here til at least 2017? I'm confused.

Yes, this is not an extension.  He wasn't even arbitration eligible until next season, and a free agent until after the 2018 season.  The Nats agreed to pay him more than league minimum his first 5 seasons - they can renegotiate after 2016 or let him go to arbitration then.

This just clears up an issue that arose when he first signed with the Nats - there wasn't clarity between the organization and Boras as the deadline was approaching as to the duration of the contract (the language was left out of the final paperwork).  Boras thought Harper could opt out (and renegotiate), the Nats felt he couldn't and had to play through the term.

The players association filed a grievance on his behalf, and they were scheduled to go to an arbitrator tomorrow.  This two year deal extends Harper's existing deal one extra year (through 2016) in exchange for not opting out.  The Nats and Harper will be back at this in 2 years.

His missing fanfest however, was inexcusable.  He's a Nat through 2018 and citing a legal dispute about how much he's getting paid makes me dislike him even more.

people will keep saying "he's young"...

when is that excuse going to end?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on December 15, 2014, 04:31:17 pm
2 year deal for Harper
I'm never clear on what contracts mean or not... But wasn't his current deal through 2018? So now he's here til at least 2017? I'm confused.

Yes, this is not an extension.  He wasn't even arbitration eligible until next season, and a free agent until after the 2018 season.  The Nats agreed to pay him more than league minimum his first 5 seasons - they can renegotiate after 2016 or let him go to arbitration then.

This just clears up an issue that arose when he first signed with the Nats - there wasn't clarity between the organization and Boras as the deadline was approaching as to the duration of the contract (the language was left out of the final paperwork).  Boras thought Harper could opt out (and renegotiate), the Nats felt he couldn't and had to play through the term.

The players association filed a grievance on his behalf, and they were scheduled to go to an arbitrator tomorrow.  This two year deal extends Harper's existing deal one extra year (through 2016) in exchange for not opting out.  The Nats and Harper will be back at this in 2 years.

His missing fanfest however, was inexcusable.  He's a Nat through 2018 and citing a legal dispute about how much he's getting paid makes me dislike him even more.

people will keep saying "he's young"...

when is that excuse going to end?

when he's not young anymore
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on December 15, 2014, 05:29:59 pm

he's been in the league for years now!

the guy is a prick.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: ggw on December 15, 2014, 05:32:00 pm
Is Harper nailing your wife or something?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on December 15, 2014, 05:40:48 pm
Is Harper nailing your wife or something?

no.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on December 15, 2014, 05:44:20 pm
Is Harper nailing your wife or something?

no.
To be fair, can't you really only say Harper isn't nailing your wife to the best of your knowledge?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on December 15, 2014, 06:22:30 pm
Is Harper nailing your wife or something?

no.
To be fair, can't you really only say Harper isn't nailing your wife to the best of your knowledge?

dude..i'm fairly confident bryce ain't balling her but i'm just telling you the guy is a prick and we see examples of it all the time.. now if he was a prick hitting 50 homers and 140 rbis a year i might stand for it but he's completely mediocre
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on December 16, 2014, 12:23:24 am
so what you're saying is he use to nail your wife, but doesn't anymore
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on December 16, 2014, 09:51:02 am
Its almost as if there's a certain implication that someone else is now cuckolding Hutch! #TheAffairSeasonTwo
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on December 17, 2014, 07:06:52 pm
Myers Trade: WSH gets Joe Ross and PTNL (which will be SS Trey Turner on 6/14)
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on December 18, 2014, 12:39:23 pm
Myers Trade: WSH gets Joe Ross and PTNL (which will be SS Trey Turner on 6/14)

Keith Law absolutely loves this trade for the Nats.  Souza for Ross and Turner is a win-win for the club as Souza was a man without a position and they received two promising prospects. 
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on December 29, 2014, 03:20:01 pm
I hope you didn't think I was going to let the Dan Uggla signing slide without comment.

Ahhahahahahaha.

Also Ian Stewart.  Sat through that last year - other than his cool name, not much left outside of Colorado.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on January 12, 2015, 05:14:18 pm
It would have hurt my soul to see Desi in a Mets uniform:

http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/washington-nationals-new-york-mets-tampa-bay-rays-ian-desmond-ben-zobrist-trade-011115
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on January 12, 2015, 06:52:04 pm
It would have hurt my soul to see Desi in a Mets uniform:

It might have been harder to watch Escobar play short.  Not sure what happened in the last 18 months but his defensive metrics took a nose dive.  Maybe he was hurt, maybe he was 32 years old.  Tough call. 
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on January 13, 2015, 11:00:46 am
I'll go with age! Desi's 2nd rumored trade. I'd be super bummed if he was traded. After Ryan Zimmerman, he was the first Nat I became a huge fan of. Way back in 2012. Lol.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on January 14, 2015, 08:26:30 pm
I'll go with age!

You'd better hope not.  Beane just traded him to the Nats.

I believe it was for Tyler Clippard, but I'm not sure yet.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on January 14, 2015, 10:57:04 pm
Nats suddenly active.  Yep - Clip.  Say hello to your new 2B man.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on January 15, 2015, 07:43:27 am
im fine with that trade. plenty of concerns with escobar but he really just has to be better than espinosa, unless rizzo has more up his sleeve and desmonds traded soon.

theres no way the nat were re-signing clippard after next year anyway, and hes thrown a lot of innings while in dc
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on January 15, 2015, 10:31:47 am
As long as he doesn't rack up hundreds of strike outs.... Espinoza is solid at 2B. If only he could freaking hit.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on January 15, 2015, 10:39:19 am
very unexciting news in my opinion..guy seems like a loser..

they are so stingy..they're not even trying to improve the team!
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on January 15, 2015, 11:54:30 am
Could be trying to save some coins to resign some of these guys next year... Piggy bank!
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on January 15, 2015, 02:13:06 pm
Could be trying to save some coins to resign some of these guys next year... Piggy bank!

hopefully not harper... they should trade him mid-season or something
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on January 15, 2015, 02:41:41 pm
Could be trying to save some coins to resign some of these guys next year... Piggy bank!

Save coin?

Clippard had one year left at $9m.

Escobar is $5m this year, $7m next year, and a team option of $7m in 2017.

This doesn't seem like a money saving move unless Desmond gets moved ($11m this year), which I'm not ruling out.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on January 15, 2015, 03:28:43 pm
It seems they've already shopped him twice. I'm afraid we've seen the last of Desi in a Nats uni. So sad.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on January 16, 2015, 01:18:00 pm
It seems they've already shopped him twice. I'm afraid we've seen the last of Desi in a Nats uni. So sad.

Well, he turned down a 7 year, $107m deal last off season so he's left the team with no choice to get what they can now.  That's a very generous offer for a middle infielder.

I hear the Mets and Daniel Murphy are what's in play now.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on January 18, 2015, 06:07:26 pm
Scherzer talking 7 year deal with Nats and 1 other team per Jon Heyman CBS

"Nationals are willing to trade Strasburg if they land Scherzer." - Bleacher Report

@AdamKilgoreWP: Per a source, Max Scherzer to the Nats is "very close." Not finished yet.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on January 18, 2015, 08:03:06 pm
man, i dont know

i like scherzers pitching but thats a lot of years for someone who turns 31 next season.

i think the only way id be on board is if the return from the resulting strasburg/zimmermann trade is huge. otherwise id rather they go with what they have, pay zimmermann and fister, and trade strasburg if necessary. 7 year deal for max has disaster written all over for it, especially with all the uncertainty already looming about 2016 and beyond

all offseason ive though the scherzer to dc rumors were just boras being boras but too many legit sources are reporting on it now for it to be completely made up.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on January 18, 2015, 09:14:17 pm
I love it. get him. now.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on January 19, 2015, 08:48:30 am
Good.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/max-scherzer-appears-to-be-nearing-deal-with-nationals-225003673.html
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on January 19, 2015, 11:06:27 am
So, who's getting traded?

Are we looking at Strasburg, Zimmerman, Gonzalez, Fister, Scherzer?

That's heavy.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on January 19, 2015, 11:20:27 am
So, who's getting traded?

Are we looking at Strasburg, Zimmerman, Gonzalez, Fister, Scherzer?

That's heavy.

well i think its a bit their insurance against being unable to resign Zimmerman...I have to believe if he would have taken the same deal as Scherzer they would have given it to him? that maybe they already offered it to him in fact?

I wouldn't trade any of them unless I could get a big bat in exchange...
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on January 19, 2015, 11:40:49 am
CBS says it's done.

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/writer/jon-heyman/24976364/max-scherzer-agrees-to-nats-deal-making-great-rotation-even-better
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on January 19, 2015, 12:23:48 pm
7 years,  $180m.  Have to think Zimmerman would be cheaper and younger.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on January 19, 2015, 12:33:56 pm
7 years,  $180m.  Have to think Zimmerman would be cheaper and younger.

only $180? wow...I thought it was 7 years 200 million.. they got a bargain

I don't know we can say with any certitude Zim will be less..but the point is he may just not want to play for DC.. it may not be just about money...

but Scherzer ain't chopped liver.. he's a great pitcher..

I'm happy.. should i be sad they signed him Vansmack just cause you hate it when players get money? You always look at it from the team's front office standpoint.. I'm just a fan and look forward to seeing him.. I think signing him is a huge coup
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on January 19, 2015, 12:43:38 pm
Article on this either being a Lerner "all in" move or Rizzo's "Gameplan" for the future.

http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/washington-nationals-max-scherzer-mike-rizzo-ted-lerner-scott-boras-who-is-calling-shots-011815

I like him saying he won't trade Desmond. Unless it's a deal you can't resist. With all the stuff I've read about the organization and their relationship with Desmond I'd be so sad if he did go away. But, we'll see! Spring training is what... 6 weeks away?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on January 19, 2015, 01:15:48 pm
I heard $180m, now I'm hearing $210m.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on January 19, 2015, 01:17:25 pm
I heard $180m, now I'm hearing $210m.
If they gave him $30 million per year, then "mazel tov, Max, mazel tov."
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on January 19, 2015, 01:18:46 pm
looks like its 210 but half deferred

so 15 per year for 14 years

yikes. im guessing the masn uncertainty played into that

im also seeing no indication that rizzo is desperate to move anyone, including zimmermann and desmond. ims till wrapping my head around this deal but if thats true we're looking at a rotation for the ages next year. tough luck for roark but what an insurance policy hed be
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on January 19, 2015, 01:20:19 pm
Have they announced a price increase on 2015 tickets yet?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on January 19, 2015, 02:10:15 pm
These 5 and Roark in the bullpen for long relief? Yeesh.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on January 19, 2015, 02:29:33 pm
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/max-scherzer-and-when-210-million-isnt-210-million/

Instead, the Nationals will pay Scherzer $15 million per season, but do so for 14 years; essentially, they?ve deferred half of each season?s salary seven years into the future. Effectively, they signed Scherzer for $105 million over the seven years that he?ll pitch for them, and then they?ll pay him the next $105 million after the contract ends, making this the most deferred money contract in baseball history.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on January 19, 2015, 02:50:10 pm
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/max-scherzer-and-when-210-million-isnt-210-million/
Fascinating read. +1
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on January 19, 2015, 04:50:24 pm
7 years,  $180m.  Have to think Zimmerman would be cheaper and younger.

only $180? wow...I thought it was 7 years 200 million.. they got a bargain

I don't know we can say with any certitude Zim will be less..but the point is he may just not want to play for DC.. it may not be just about money...

but Scherzer ain't chopped liver.. he's a great pitcher..

I'm happy.. should i be sad they signed him Vansmack just cause you hate it when players get money? You always look at it from the team's front office standpoint.. I'm just a fan and look forward to seeing him.. I think signing him is a huge coup

i look forward to 1, maybe 2 years in the future when you have non-stop complaining about how overpaid he is for his performance, and eventually question his maturity.

Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on January 19, 2015, 04:57:08 pm
This is an amazing article touting the skills of Scott Boras (http://nypost.com/2014/12/08/how-scott-boras-demands-cloud-market-for-max-scherzer/) delivering for his clients over the last 10 years.  But not a single one of those deals has been good for the team.

Carlos Beltran (2004, seven years, $119 million)
Barry Zito (2006, seven years, $126 million)
Alex Rodriguez (2007, 10 years, $275 million)
Mark Teixeira (2008, eight years, $180 million)
Matt Holliday (2009, seven years, $120 million)
Jayson Werth (2010, seven years $126 million)
Prince Fielder (2011, nine years, $214 million)
Jacoby Ellsbury (2013, seven years, $153 million)

Buyers beware.

I'll just add:

Max Scherzer (2015, 7 years, $210 million)

Especially if they deal Zimmerman.  That would make this a +1 WAR deal, for $210m.  The deferred money makes it interesting though.  I think the Mets are still paying Bobby Bonilla, for example.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on January 19, 2015, 05:07:02 pm
That would make this a +1 WAR deal, for $210m. 
To be fair, it'd be a +1 WAR deal for ($210million-(Zimmerman's 2015 salary+the first six years of Zimmerman's next contract)).

Which probably makes it a +1 WAR deal for ~$70million-ish.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on January 19, 2015, 05:12:48 pm
To be fair, it'd be a +1 WAR deal for ($210million-(Zimmerman's 2015 salary+the first six years of Zimmerman's next contract)).

Which probably makes it a +1 WAR deal for ~$45million (??).

Well, I was only calculating 2015.  Otherwise, yes, your formula, plus the fact that Zimmerman is 2 years younger, and I don't think Zimmerman gets $150m deal, but we'll see what Shields gets and adjust the market then.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on January 19, 2015, 05:13:44 pm
I'm still not clear on how the deferment changes the luxury tax.  I've read both AAV and actual dollars spent.

Also, this does show that the Nats can work with Boras (which is surprising after the Werth deal).  That's a good sign for Strasburg, Harper & Rendon.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on January 19, 2015, 05:22:40 pm
7 years,  $180m.  Have to think Zimmerman would be cheaper and younger.

only $180? wow...I thought it was 7 years 200 million.. they got a bargain

I don't know we can say with any certitude Zim will be less..but the point is he may just not want to play for DC.. it may not be just about money...

but Scherzer ain't chopped liver.. he's a great pitcher..

I'm happy.. should i be sad they signed him Vansmack just cause you hate it when players get money? You always look at it from the team's front office standpoint.. I'm just a fan and look forward to seeing him.. I think signing him is a huge coup

i look forward to 1, maybe 2 years in the future when you have non-stop complaining about how overpaid he is for his performance, and eventually question his maturity.



huh? he already won the Cy Young Carlitos!

He was the top pitcher available and the Nats went out and got him.. I love it.

Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on January 19, 2015, 07:23:17 pm
interesting article

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--max-scherzer-s-7-year---210-million-deal-with-nats-contains-historic-deferrals-164857543.html
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on January 21, 2015, 06:07:03 pm
This Doesn't End well for the Nats (http://espn.go.com/blog/jayson-stark/post/_/id/1056/seven-year-deals-for-pitchers-big-trouble)

Seven seasons ago -- that would be in 2008, if you?re not calculating along at home -- 13 pitchers showed up on at least one ballot in the Cy Young voting. Six of them are retired now (Mike Mussina, Roy Halladay, Mariano Rivera, Brad Lidge, Ryan Dempster and Brandon Webb).

Of the other seven, Daisuke Matsuzaka is headed back to Japan, Johan Santana hasn't won a big-league game since June of 2012, CC Sabathia and Cliff Lee spent a combined 200 days on the disabled list last year, and, while his team was winning the World Series, Tim Lincecum was starting as many games last October as Juan Marichal.

And that leaves two others, Ervin Santana and Francisco Rodriguez, who are, amazingly, still alive and well. But they also have changed teams a combined seven times since then.

So ? would you give a seven-year contract to any pitcher?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on January 21, 2015, 06:32:55 pm
This Doesn't End well for the Nats (http://espn.go.com/blog/jayson-stark/post/_/id/1056/seven-year-deals-for-pitchers-big-trouble)

Seven seasons ago -- that would be in 2008, if you?re not calculating along at home -- 13 pitchers showed up on at least one ballot in the Cy Young voting. Six of them are retired now (Mike Mussina, Roy Halladay, Mariano Rivera, Brad Lidge, Ryan Dempster and Brandon Webb).

Of the other seven, Daisuke Matsuzaka is headed back to Japan, Johan Santana hasn't won a big-league game since June of 2012, CC Sabathia and Cliff Lee spent a combined 200 days on the disabled list last year, and, while his team was winning the World Series, Tim Lincecum was starting as many games last October as Juan Marichal.

And that leaves two others, Ervin Santana and Francisco Rodriguez, who are, amazingly, still alive and well. But they also have changed teams a combined seven times since then.

So ? would you give a seven-year contract to any pitcher?

not any but i'd give it to scherzer... i would not have given it to shields or the red sox guy that went to oakland though...

i like the move... prices will just keep going up anyways...

Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on January 21, 2015, 07:08:23 pm

i like the move... prices will just keep going up anyways...


Well, maybe only in DC because for the rest of the nation, ticket prices do not drive revenue.  TV deals do. (http://www.forbes.com/sites/maurybrown/2013/12/17/major-league-baseball-sees-record-revenues-exceed-8-billion-for-2013/)  That's why until the MASN stuff gets sorted out, the Nats will have to defer payments to players to keep up with the Jones'.

I'm still not sure if I'd trade a starter or not.  Keep Zimmerman and Stras, win 105 games and hope for the best in the playoffs?  Trade Zimmerman and have Stras/Scherzer 1-2 punch for two years?  Trade Stras to get the best bang for your buck before their gutted in 2017?  Awesome decisions to make.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: BookerT on January 21, 2015, 07:30:30 pm
There's more money than ever in MLB. Tons. More than we can even wrap our heads around. Every team has it. Even the small market ones. If the money is there, spend it. The owner wants to sign the best pitcher available, so he does it. Fans get angry at a team maybe overspending long-term on a great player in a non-salary cap league? Makes no sense to me. By the time Scherzer's contract is up, some players could be making $50 million/season.

Obviously pitchers can (and do) breakdown. But man. Can't see why fans would be so up in arms about this.

Although the declaration that Scherzer will be opening day starter (over Strasburg and Zimmermann) was kind of interesting...
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on January 21, 2015, 07:32:50 pm

i like the move... prices will just keep going up anyways...


Well, maybe only in DC because for the rest of the nation, ticket prices do not drive revenue.  TV deals do. (http://www.forbes.com/sites/maurybrown/2013/12/17/major-league-baseball-sees-record-revenues-exceed-8-billion-for-2013/)  That's why until the MASN stuff gets sorted out, the Nats will have to defer payments to players to keep up with the Jones'.

I'm still not sure if I'd trade a starter or not.  Keep Zimmerman and Stras, win 105 games and hope for the best in the playoffs?  Trade Zimmerman and have Stras/Scherzer 1-2 punch for two years?  Trade Stras to get the best bang for your buck before their gutted in 2017?  Awesome decisions to make.

just to be clear I meant prices for quality players will just keep going up..

I would trade Strasburg if I could get something really good...a really good batter.... but otherwise what is the point?

I worry Strasburg will be plagued by injuries his whole career..i sort of think he's kinda damaged goods..

Nats need a good bat.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on January 21, 2015, 07:34:04 pm
There's more money than ever in MLB. Tons. More than we can even wrap our heads around. Every team has it. Even the small market ones. If the money is there, spend it. The owner wants to sign the best pitcher available, so he does it. Fans get angry at a team maybe overspending long-term on a great player in a non-salary cap league? Makes no sense to me. By the time Scherzer's contract is up, some players could be making $50 million/season.

Obviously pitchers can (and do) breakdown. But man. Can't see why fans would be so up in arms about this.

Although the declaration that Scherzer will be opening day starter (over Strasburg and Zimmermann) was kind of interesting...

Exactly!

As I have said before I think Smackie, whose opinion I very much respect, looks at it from the standpoint of the fantasy GM having to dish out the money...not the fan...

Why should I care that they spent a lot of money? I will enjoy watching Scherzer on TV this season!
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on January 21, 2015, 07:40:48 pm
I worry Strasburg will be plagued by injuries his whole career..i sort of think he's kinda damaged goods..
whats your basis for this? just curious cuz ive seen this same line echoed elsewhere and im not sure why strasburg has this reputation. he had the tommy john, like most pitchers these days, and a few minor "injuries" since then, missing a start here and there. nothing that justifies "damaged goods" imo.

agreed that theres no need to trade him but if the return is big enough, go for it. roark is a more than capable starter

pegging max as the opening day starter today struck me as kinda odd. id been wondering about this to myself, and of course its mostly just empty symbolism, but announcing it so far ahead of openign day seemed strange
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on January 21, 2015, 09:47:30 pm
Why should I care that they spent a lot of money?

Ask Phillies fans.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on January 21, 2015, 09:55:28 pm
im not as on board with the signing as hutch (though im fast coming around) but the nats have a long way to go before even approaching philly levels of bad financial dealings
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on January 21, 2015, 10:05:44 pm
im not as on board with the signing as hutch (though im fast coming around) but the nats have a long way to go before even approaching philly levels of bad financial dealings

The Nats have four unsigned Boras clients under control and two others they signed as free agents to record breaking deals or near record breaking deals.  I'm watching this space very closely as they are set for the next two seasons before all hell breaks loose. 
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on January 21, 2015, 10:08:25 pm
yes, unsigned. exactly

if they throw record breaking deals at all 4 then go ahead and gloat but its way too early to compare them to the phillies
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on January 21, 2015, 10:42:13 pm
I honestly feel like the team is trying to do anything it can to win one for the old man before he dies and the fans are going to suffer in the long run.

But it should be a helluva two years. 
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on January 21, 2015, 10:47:09 pm
I honestly feel like the team is trying to do anything it can to win one for the old man before he dies and the fans are going to suffer in the long run.

But it should be a helluva two years. 
Hey, it worked for the Tige--- ohhhhh... :(
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on January 22, 2015, 07:31:06 am
I honestly feel like the team is trying to do anything it can to win one for the old man before he dies and the fans are going to suffer in the long run.

But it should be a helluva two years. 
well this first part is obvious. but in the longer term, as it stands now they have two big deals that would now be considered a bargain (werth and zimmerman) and one thats spread out over such a long period the actual burden on the team will be minimal. they havent come close to mortgaging the future yet. if they win it all in 2015 they dont really have to worry about desmond/zimmermann megadeals, which would lessen the blow of strasburg/harper/rendon megadeals. recent moves have left them in decent shape if they lose desmond and/or jordan, so i dont see rizzo outbidding himself out of desperation there. scott boras might have a good working relationship with rizzo but youre acting like his clients are all guaranteed record money from the lerners. let those potential deals actually play out before calling them ill advised.

plus the farm system is still strong and rizzo isnt giving out 9 figure deals like candy. when those things change then ill be concerned. anything in the meantime is just pointless fear mongering. they didnt have to sign scherzer, but its a luxury they could afford and until it becomes the trend for this team, im not gonna worry about their financials.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on January 22, 2015, 12:55:14 pm
Hey, it worked for the Tige--- ohhhhh... :(

I thought about using the Tigers as an example, especially as the Phils won a World Series, but the Tigers are still competitive and making the playoffs to where the Phils are just awful with no hope of getting good anytime soon.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on January 22, 2015, 12:59:37 pm
one thats spread out over such a long period the actual burden on the team will be minimal. they havent come close to mortgaging the future yet.

record money from the lerners. let those potential deals actually play out before calling them ill advised.

 its a luxury they could afford and until it becomes the trend for this team, im not gonna worry about their financials.

I agree, if their financial situation stays the same, they haven't over risked to a point, but what if the team has to be sold after the old man passes.

"You mean, I would owe over $100m to a player who's not even on the roster?  And I can't sign my own TV deal to make up the difference?  Who the hell thought those were good ideas?"
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on January 22, 2015, 06:13:42 pm
Here are the details:

2015: $10m (which is $5m less than what he made last year)
2016-18: $15m each year
2019-2021: $35m per year, all deferred from 2022-2028 interest free.

$50m signing bonus spread out throughout the life of the contract.

Other Bonuses:

$250,000 per Cy Young, MVP or World Series MVP award
$150,000 per MVP of the League Championship Series
$100,000 per all-star team, Gold Glove or Silver Slugger

There is NOT a no-trade clause, though the deferred money for pitching years 35, 36, and 37 make any trade difficult.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on January 28, 2015, 01:33:13 pm
Nats sign Casey Janssen for $5m with a mutual option for 16.  That's a great deal for a solid reliever (and not just because he's an Orange County guy).
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: ggw on January 29, 2015, 04:06:27 pm
WASHINGTON -- Washington Nationals outfielder Jayson Werth reached a plea deal in his reckless driving charge from July 2014, according to the Washington Post. He will serve five days in jail and have his driving license suspended for 30 days.

Werth?s plea deal allows him to serve his time on weekends to allow him to continue rehab from his recent shoulder surgery. Circuit Court Judge Randy L. Bellows agreed to the terms, but mentioned that the flexibility was unusual, given that Werth was caught driving over 100 mph at the time he was pulled over.

The Nationals released a statement saying they are aware of the plea agreement.

?We do not condone reckless behavior, and we expect all members of the Washington Nationals organization to act in a responsible manner,? the statement read. ?We support Jayson, who is an integral part of the community and of the Washington Nationals family.?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on January 29, 2015, 05:21:22 pm
Going over 100 on the beltway on his way to the park!

Sounds like another Maryland driver to me.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on January 29, 2015, 05:26:43 pm
He is going to be jacked when he gets out!
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on February 09, 2015, 03:41:09 pm
Nationals replace Phillies on Harrisburg, Penn. radio station

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/nationals-replace-phillies-on-harrisburg--penn--radio-station-072717329.html

LOL
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: ggw on February 19, 2015, 03:02:36 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B-OHaovIAAAcQm5.jpg)
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on February 20, 2015, 01:43:19 am
 Bandwagoners (http://www.forbes.com/sites/jesselawrence/2015/02/18/as-a-national-league-favorite-washington-nationals-tickets-up-99-from-2014/)
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on February 20, 2015, 11:01:05 am
Bandwagoners (http://www.forbes.com/sites/jesselawrence/2015/02/18/as-a-national-league-favorite-washington-nationals-tickets-up-99-from-2014/)
They jacked up the price after they won the first division title too. Smh.

Funny thing, I was watching the Nats opener from 2012 [first division title win season] and they SAID there was 40,000+ in attendance, but the stands just did not look packed. It was the walk off win with Zimmerman coming in to score in the 10th off the wild pitch. The line-up looked insanely different. And Jayson Werth had short hair and barely any facial hair. Funny to think how much teams can change in a handful of seasons.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Bombay Chutney on February 20, 2015, 11:35:26 am
Well, that article is discussing the secondary market.  It's a bit early to see if people actually pay some of those prices.  And be warned if you buy those Lexus/President's Club seats from the secondary market.  Re-sold tickets don't always come with the buffet, free drinks, etc.   You could end up paying out the nose for a decent seat but with no perks. 
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on February 20, 2015, 02:33:30 pm
I read it after I responded. What a weird article. Of course tickets are going to be high after they first went on sale! Sheesh.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on February 21, 2015, 09:59:15 am
Nats exercise Matt Williams 2016 option.

He'll have no excuses this season.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on March 11, 2015, 06:16:44 pm
This never gets old to me:

http://deadsp.in/Li5a9hU
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on March 12, 2015, 10:41:37 am
This never gets old to me:

http://deadsp.in/Li5a9hU
I feel like they troll Dan Kolko SO much hahaha. I wonder what hijinks Scherzer and Gio will be up to this year. I like at the end of the interview when he runs into the dugout and all the guys are laughing. BASEBALL!
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on March 14, 2015, 04:29:05 am
concerned

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/03/13/anthony-rendon-has-a-sprained-mcl-in-his-left-knee/?ocid=Yahoo&partner=ya5nbcs
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on March 14, 2015, 10:21:27 am
it is worrisome

hopefully theyre getting the injuries out of the way now, and they dont rush anyone back. with this pitching staff and a weak division theres no need to go 110% the first month

spans injury concerns me most. first the sports hernia surgery, then the core. im no medical expert but thats troubling for someone whose game relies so much on quick moves. rendon is key but as long as he doesnt rush back, his injury doesnt seem like a recurring thing.

i tend not to follow spring trainign stats too closely but i see tyler moore is having a great spring. ive been hoping hed find a way to pull it together as a bench guy here so maybe this is the year.

also heard good things about wilmer difo as a middle infield successor should desmond leave (whichs eems like a given at this point)

and zimmerman's fielding has gotten good marks too. his glvoe was never gonna be the concern at first, but nice to see hes picked up the basics so fast.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on March 16, 2015, 11:54:55 am
I feel like Tyler Moore always has a good spring.... If Span does miss time, I liked what I saw from Michael Taylor last year. I'd like to see him get more time and get more comfortable in the big league line-up. 3 more weeks!
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on March 20, 2015, 05:30:33 pm
Nothing to be concerned about, it's just your peers.  Two years running...

Players voted Mike Trout the ?best overall player in MLB? (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/wp/2015/03/19/players-again-vote-bryce-harper-mlbs-most-overrated-player/)
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on March 23, 2015, 10:00:45 am
Why would that be a category!? Lol
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on April 01, 2015, 08:22:51 am
oh my...this could be a disaster

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nats-third-baseman-rendon-seeks-3rd-opinion-knee-155134327--mlb.html
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on April 01, 2015, 10:03:02 am
Why won't knees leave my teams alone.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on April 01, 2015, 12:22:01 pm
I'm going to see the Nats-Dodgers game on July 19th

Is Kershaw scheduled to pitch that day?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on April 01, 2015, 02:31:25 pm
I'm going to see the Nats-Dodgers game on July 19th

Is Kershaw scheduled to pitch that day?

Assuming he starts the All Star game, there is a very good chance his next start would be Sunday the 19th.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on April 01, 2015, 02:42:02 pm
oh my...this could be a disaster

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nats-third-baseman-rendon-seeks-3rd-opinion-knee-155134327--mlb.html

Why won't knees leave my teams alone.

It's really weird.  He saw Dr. James Andrews and the Nats specialist, both who concur that it's just a sprain.   Now he wants to see a third?  This is the sign of a guy who doesn't want to play...
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on April 01, 2015, 03:48:08 pm
I'm going to see the Nats-Dodgers game on July 19th

Is Kershaw scheduled to pitch that day?

Assuming he starts the All Star game, there is a very good chance his next start would be Sunday the 19th.

good good......things lining up well today...hope its not all a joke
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on April 02, 2015, 11:15:49 am
oh my...this could be a disaster

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nats-third-baseman-rendon-seeks-3rd-opinion-knee-155134327--mlb.html

Why won't knees leave my teams alone.

It's really weird.  He saw Dr. James Andrews and the Nats specialist, both who concur that it's just a sprain.   Now he wants to see a third?  This is the sign of a guy who doesn't want to play...
Is this a Boras power move.................? or something? Lol.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on April 02, 2015, 11:23:14 am
every year, my company treats us all to a free nats game.  I have such a good time, and like to eat popcorn while I am there.  we get great seats, and I feel all American sitting there with a kid like goofy smile on my face.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on April 05, 2015, 01:33:48 pm
Congrats - the Nats are going to host the 2018 All Star Game.  That's a great weekend.  I may even come out for it....
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: brennser on April 05, 2015, 07:05:21 pm
awesome!

Congrats - the Nats are going to host the 2018 All Star Game.  That's a great weekend.  I may even come out for it....
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on April 06, 2015, 12:27:28 pm
awesome!

No promises.  My last two trips to DC have been plagued with travel woes....
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on April 07, 2015, 09:46:35 am
Congrats - the Nats are going to host the 2018 All Star Game.  That's a great weekend.  I may even come out for it....
So stoked for this! Always wanted to go to a Home Run Derby!
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on April 09, 2015, 02:52:31 pm
I was hoping for a little more in this Strasburg / Harvey duel.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 11, 2015, 11:48:09 pm
real ugly loss today.

i don't think danny espinosa has any business on any MLB roster, nevermind the clubhouse that is favored to win the world series.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 11, 2015, 11:55:03 pm
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Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on April 13, 2015, 10:38:14 am
Danny Espinosa hasn't been good for a couple seasons now and it's super disappointing. The chemistry him and Desi have on the defensive side is awesome. Too bad he just stacks up strikeouts. We'll see if he can get it going without being a switch hitter.

Nats desperately need Span/Rendon/Werth back. Although if they can eek out some wins it'll be fine.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on April 13, 2015, 11:40:41 am
You'd figure Harper could carry the team.....he's the best.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on April 13, 2015, 12:01:48 pm
You'd figure Harper could carry the team.....he's the best.
Of the four big American pro sports, baseball is by far the one where an "elite" player can "carry" his team the least.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 13, 2015, 12:42:15 pm
You'd figure Harper could carry the team.....he's the best.

please fall down a flight of stairs.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 13, 2015, 12:46:02 pm
Danny Espinosa hasn't been good for a couple seasons now and it's super disappointing. The chemistry him and Desi have on the defensive side is awesome. Too bad he just stacks up strikeouts. We'll see if he can get it going without being a switch hitter.

Nats desperately need Span/Rendon/Werth back. Although if they can eek out some wins it'll be fine.

yeah, the guys playing now have to hit more, regardless.  des, uggla and ramos look awful, espinosa is an automatic out when he plays, michael taylor needs to get sent down to single A to learn how to play the game of baseball, and zimmerman appears to have a long way to go before he provides any sort of sound defense at 1B.  the season isn't won in april but shit, they could end up fighting for a wild card spot if they continue to have an ugly april.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on April 13, 2015, 12:51:48 pm
You'd figure Harper could carry the team.....he's the best.

please fall down a flight of stairs.
(http://a.fastcompany.net/multisite_files/fastcompany/imagecache/inline-large/inline/2013/11/3021307-inline-fb-thumbsup-printpackaging.jpg)
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on April 13, 2015, 01:07:22 pm
Danny Espinosa hasn't been good for a couple seasons now and it's super disappointing. The chemistry him and Desi have on the defensive side is awesome. Too bad he just stacks up strikeouts. We'll see if he can get it going without being a switch hitter.

Nats desperately need Span/Rendon/Werth back. Although if they can eek out some wins it'll be fine.

yeah, the guys playing now have to hit more, regardless.  des, uggla and ramos look awful, espinosa is an automatic out when he plays, michael taylor needs to get sent down to single A to learn how to play the game of baseball, and zimmerman appears to have a long way to go before he provides any sort of sound defense at 1B.  the season isn't won in april but shit, they could end up fighting for a wild card spot if they continue to have an ugly april.
Michael Taylor was awesome in his handful of games last year. I think he can be as consistent as Rendon once he gets the fulltime call up. Desi is notoriously slow to start on both sides of the ball. It's so friggin weird. He should start spring training in December to get hot by the season start. I also think Ramos hits better with RISP, but no one can seem to get on base for him. I think they'll come around. Werth in the line-up today should help boost the top of the order. I'm surprised Tyler Moore hasn't been given more of a chance.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on April 13, 2015, 01:15:15 pm
Probably a better chance of Harper striking out than me falling down the stairs.... what's he on pace for anyways?


Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on April 13, 2015, 01:20:38 pm
Probably a better chance of Harper striking out than me falling down the stairs....
Well, since you, by all appearences live in a 972 foot single-level home, I'm not certain you face enough opportunities to fall down stairs to make such a one-to-one statistical comparison meaningful. Since, you know, Hall of Fame baseball players strike out multiple times a week. . .
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on April 13, 2015, 01:26:53 pm
Probably a better chance of Harper striking out than me falling down the stairs....
Well, since you, by all appearences live in a 972 foot single-level home, I'm not certain you face enough opportunities to fall down stairs to make such a one-to-one statistical comparison meaningful. Since, you know, Hall of Fame baseball players strike out multiple times a week. . .

ha ha.. he has 9 strikeouts in 6 games.... so on pace for 243 K this season

I really don't care what you think of the house I live in Julian...certainly not enough to correct you.

Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on April 13, 2015, 01:29:38 pm
I guess my bigger point is that any baseball player with even a handful of at-bats will inevitably have more strikeouts this year than times you will fall down the stairs. Unless you have a raging alcohol abuse problem, I suppose. Do you have a raging alcohol abuse problem? It would explain the disheveled nature of your lawn and the lack of funds to purchase a proper-sized house for a family of 4.

I think we might have cracked the case, guys!
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on April 13, 2015, 01:38:09 pm
I guess my bigger point is that any baseball player with even a handful of at-bats will inevitably have more strikeouts this year than times you will fall down the stairs. Unless you have a raging alcohol abuse problem, I suppose. Do you have a raging alcohol abuse problem? It would explain the disheveled nature of your lawn and the lack of funds to purchase a proper-sized house for a family of 4.

I think we might have cracked the case, guys!

I'm happy with where I live...my only consideration is the schools,services and playgrounds for my special needs children...

but yeah.. I'm not big on lawn care.... I'll try to do a better job this year though...

the neighbour mowed his lawn this weekend so I am behind the eight ball at this point...
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on April 13, 2015, 03:54:10 pm
Wow.  Nats defense is as atrocious as their hitting at this point.  They look like the Bad News Bears out there today.   At least they have those starters.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 13, 2015, 04:01:10 pm
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/where-ryan-zimmerman-is-miguel-cabrera/

this is a fun read.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 13, 2015, 04:07:24 pm
Danny Espinosa hasn't been good for a couple seasons now and it's super disappointing. The chemistry him and Desi have on the defensive side is awesome. Too bad he just stacks up strikeouts. We'll see if he can get it going without being a switch hitter.

Nats desperately need Span/Rendon/Werth back. Although if they can eek out some wins it'll be fine.

yeah, the guys playing now have to hit more, regardless.  des, uggla and ramos look awful, espinosa is an automatic out when he plays, michael taylor needs to get sent down to single A to learn how to play the game of baseball, and zimmerman appears to have a long way to go before he provides any sort of sound defense at 1B.  the season isn't won in april but shit, they could end up fighting for a wild card spot if they continue to have an ugly april.
Michael Taylor was awesome in his handful of games last year. I think he can be as consistent as Rendon once he gets the fulltime call up. Desi is notoriously slow to start on both sides of the ball. It's so friggin weird. He should start spring training in December to get hot by the season start. I also think Ramos hits better with RISP, but no one can seem to get on base for him. I think they'll come around. Werth in the line-up today should help boost the top of the order. I'm surprised Tyler Moore hasn't been given more of a chance.

taylor has a future, no doubt, but the big leagues speed hasn't caught up to him yet.  he's not nearly as instinctive as a CF should be, and his hesitation on the bases when he was thrown out at the plate was costly, although why they sent him home in the first place with harper coming up was dumb.  i believe he was also thrown out stealing a bag either friday or saturday?  he's got plenty of tools, just doesn't know how to use them yet.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on April 13, 2015, 04:39:13 pm
well on the positive side.. Harper has only one strikeout today...


of course there are still like five innings..
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on April 13, 2015, 05:04:54 pm
Holy crap. Just checked the score. What the hell!!
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 13, 2015, 05:22:36 pm
this is just great
http://screengrabber.deadspin.com/mookie-betts-steals-two-bases-in-one-play-1697547392/+bubbaprog
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on April 13, 2015, 06:10:48 pm
well on the positive side.. Harper has only one strikeout today...


of course there are still like five innings..


spoke too soon.. he's now got two..

Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on April 13, 2015, 06:31:51 pm
this is just great
http://screengrabber.deadspin.com/mookie-betts-steals-two-bases-in-one-play-1697547392/+bubbaprog

The shift giveth and the shift taketh away.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 14, 2015, 06:49:42 pm
michael taylor either doesn't know the teams signs, or the nats coaching is awful.  he missed a hit and run call (getting desmond thrown out by a mile) and then squared to bunt with two outs and a man on second.

either way, he gets the job done with a base hit and bats in the nats first run. raw talent is a weird thing sometimes.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on April 15, 2015, 08:06:14 am
you want to talk raw talent? how about harper last night?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on April 15, 2015, 10:43:07 am
you want to talk raw talent? how about harper last night?
???
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 15, 2015, 11:25:48 am
you want to talk raw talent? how about harper last night?

let it rest, you're beating a dead horse. 

the kid will never see a fastball again. the book is all but written on harper and strasburg at this point, and it's the organizations fault if they don't recognize it and fix it. 
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on April 15, 2015, 11:35:38 am
I find Hutch's missives in this thread more enjoyable if you remember back in grade school when some boy liked a girl but instead of being nice to her, he'd pull her hair and call her stupid. It's actually kind of sweet to imagine Hutch sitting in his 972 sq foot home -- while his wife and kids are playing outside in the Appalachian art brut installation he calls a "yard" -- looking longingly at pictures of Bryce on a laptop, whispering "I wish I could quit you" into the wind and dreaming of being covered in a frothy mix of Harper's sweat, semen, and eyeblack.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on April 15, 2015, 11:53:48 am
I find it interesting that you find me so interesting Julian.

I find you very, very boring.

Point is Harper sucks (in addition to being an asshole)... I think people are generally beginning to come around to what I been saying for a good amount of time now...unfortunately there is a certain element of hate the messenger
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 15, 2015, 12:36:27 pm
I find it interesting that you find me so interesting Julian.

I find you very, very boring.

Point is Harper sucks (in addition to being an asshole)... I think people are generally beginning to come around to what I been saying for a good amount of time now...unfortunately there is a certain element of hate the messenger

you're overvaluing your opinion. you're opinion means nothing and people turn on players all the time.  the fact is the nats are failing stras and harper, not the other way around. these guys are so damn predictable, and you can't be predictable no matter how good you are.

i liken your discussion to nutjobs saying "i don't trust that barack hussein obama" and then when something goes wrong with the country, they jump on the opportunity to rag on the president that they hate so dearly for completely irrational reasons.  you're basically the tea party of baseball fans.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on April 15, 2015, 12:37:15 pm
Point is Harper sucks
I'm not a Nats fan, nor particularly a Harper fan. I find him somewhat annoying. He is not, as some advertised, the second coming of Jesus in baseball form. But to act like a 22 year old, five-tool, 2 time allstar, who is averaging .277 and 27 HRs a season -- again at 22 years old -- while also being consistently ranked as one of the top 3 corner outfielders in baseball from analytics people "sucks" is beyond absurd.

Every team in the league would take him in a heartbeat. You know where 22 year olds who "suck" at baseball play? Grapefruit league ball, not multiple all-star games.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 15, 2015, 12:40:55 pm
Point is Harper sucks
I'm not a Nats fan, nor particularly a Harper fan. I find him somewhat annoying. But to act like a 22 year old, five-tool, 2 time allstar, who is averaging .277 and 27 HRs a season -- again at 22 years old -- while also being consistently ranked as one of the top 3-5 corner outfielders in baseball from analytics people "sucks" is beyond absurd.

Every team in the league would take him in a heartbeat.

he still can't hit a breaking ball, and that's really it. masterson pitched him perfect, and so did koji (again, not hard when you realize that all you have to do is get ahead of the count and throw breaking balls down and away). he's a + defender, + baserunner, + power.  he's just a total blockhead, which is fine as long as someone trains him to be the right kind of blockhead

Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on April 15, 2015, 12:42:21 pm
you're basically the tea party of baseball fans.
He's a troll. He believes nothing he says about anything. He was permanently forgettable for years on here and in the last year or so decided he wanted to be memorable and so he basically just says whatever he thinks is the most drama-inducing in every scenario. And then he isn't even close to as good a troll as Rhett, Atomic, or Brian Wallace were. He is, literally, standing in the shadow of giants.

Point is Hutch sucks at messageboarding.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on April 15, 2015, 12:45:51 pm
I find it interesting that you find me so interesting Julian.

I find you very, very boring.

Point is Harper sucks (in addition to being an asshole)... I think people are generally beginning to come around to what I been saying for a good amount of time now...unfortunately there is a certain element of hate the messenger

you're overvaluing your opinion. you're opinion means nothing and people turn on players all the time.  the fact is the nats are failing stras and harper, not the other way around. these guys are so damn predictable, and you can't be predictable no matter how good you are.

i liken your discussion to nutjobs saying "i don't trust that barack hussein obama" and then when something goes wrong with the country, they jump on the opportunity to rag on the president that they hate so dearly for completely irrational reasons.  you're basically the tea party of baseball fans.

I didn't turn on Harper.... he was a dick from day one and it became clear early he was overrated........ he is still overrated... the guys calling the games refuse to say anything other than how great he is.... did they mention he had 3 strikeouts last night..... no... he had a single.

tired of hearing he's so young and all that jive....back it up Harper.....


my good friend who is a older than me and a huge Cardinals fan who has been to more games than anyone I know was laughing bout his comments about winning the World Series this year now that we have Scherzer...


Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on April 15, 2015, 12:47:47 pm
the troll is Julian...nothing says troll like getting into people's personal life and creeping on them in public forums...

or lets remember the julian gems of yesteryear and i paraphrase

"Thatguy said I would only come back over his dead body so the day he died I did."

this was posted a few days after thatguy died

asshole.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on April 15, 2015, 12:49:22 pm
my good friend who is a older than me
What is this, Junior High? What adult cites someone being "older than me" as a credulity test for competency of opinion?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on April 15, 2015, 12:51:19 pm
my good friend who is a older than me
What is this, Junior High? What adult cites someone being "older than me" as a credulity test for competency of opinion?

oh i'm sorry... he grew up going to games seeing Bob Gibson pitch etc... pardon me for thinking that means something..

you see..the above message is classic trolling.. you take one little thing out of context and make a big broohahah out of it

like I said, you're boring.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on April 15, 2015, 12:52:40 pm
the troll is Julian...nothing says troll like getting into people's personal life and creeping on them in public forums...
Here's the definition of trolling: The art of deliberately, cleverly, and secretly pissing people off, usually via the internet, using dialogue. Trolling does not mean just making rude remarks: Shouting swear words at someone doesn't count as trolling; it's just flaming, and isn't funny. Spam isn't trolling either; it pisses people off, but it's lame.

The most essential part of trolling is convincing your victim that either a) truly believe in what you are saying, no matter how outrageous, or b) give your victim malicious instructions, under the guise of help.
Trolling requires decieving; any trolling that doesn't involve decieving someone isn't trolling at all; it's just stupid. As such, your victim must not know that you are trolling; if he does, you are an unsuccesful troll.


Looking up someone's name in Google is not trolling. You might not like it, but it isn't trolling. Saying a bunch of stupid crap you don't believe in hopes it will irritate people -- your entire modus operandi -- is the definition of trolling.

or lets remember the julian gems of yesteryear and i paraphrase

"Thatguy said I would only come back over his dead body so the day he died I did."

this was posted a few days after thatguy died
Fair point. Minus the part where that didn't happen.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on April 15, 2015, 12:56:05 pm
pardon me for thinking that means something..
It doesn't. It's completely non-sequitor. Theo Epstein never saw Babe Ruth play baseball; is he by default a lesser evaluator of talent than some random 95 year old who did?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on April 15, 2015, 12:56:52 pm
there is nothing trolling about saying Harper blows... its just reality... you may not like it

so he was elected to two allstar games due to hype

Jeter was elected last year too....so what?

you can look up what you want on google or spoke or whatever... sharing it repeatedly on a public forum is really beyond the acceptable.. your jokes about my home speak very poorly of the person you are.... its none of your business where i live

you're just an asshole..that's what it comes down to... a boring bored asshole sitting behind your computer...

Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on April 15, 2015, 12:57:57 pm
pardon me for thinking that means something..
It doesn't. It's completely non-sequitor. Theo Epstein never saw Babe Ruth play baseball; is he by default a lesser evaluator of talent than some random 95 year old who did?

boring
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on April 15, 2015, 01:00:26 pm
there is nothing trolling about saying Harper blows...
There is because you know Harper doesn't "blow." You know that's wildly hyperbolic and you don't really believe he is a less-than-average MLB player. You simply keep saying that to get a rise out of Nats fans. That's what trolling is.

sharing it repeatedly on a public forum is really beyond the acceptable.. your jokes about my home speak very poorly of the person you are.... its none of your business where i live
Except, again, I did none of this. You posted your address on here. No one, myself included, has ever re-posted it. I have posted absolutely zero personally identifiable information about you (or any other member) that you (or that hypothetical member) didn't post yourselves. Looking something up online for my own edification is not the same as "sharing it repeatedly on a public forum" as you claim. That's called doxxing and I would be banned if I did.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on April 15, 2015, 01:58:48 pm
Speaking of Harp he scored in the first inning. Whoop!
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 15, 2015, 02:02:23 pm
there is nothing trolling about saying Harper blows...
There is because you know Harper doesn't "blow." You know that's wildly hyperbolic and you don't really believe he is a less-than-average MLB player. You simply keep saying that to get a rise out of Nats fans. That's what trolling is.

exactly.

noting every time bryce harper strikes out through the first 10 games of the season... who cares? are you looking to engage in any sort of meaningful conversation, or are you just shaking your fist and trying to evoke emotion? players are hot and cold, baseball is a game of averages.

go look at evan gattis' start to the season if you really want an interesting case of the strikeouts.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 15, 2015, 02:05:10 pm
and the list of the nats problems right now... harper striking out doesn't even make the top 10. 
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on April 15, 2015, 02:12:28 pm
and the list of the nats problems right now... harper striking out doesn't even make the top 10. 

dee-fense

they're at it again today
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 16, 2015, 04:24:34 pm
Quote
Paraphrased from News of the Weird:

According to the NY Times, Max Scherzer told Nats manager, Matt Williams, in March that he requires assistance during daily warm up sessions and spoke of the importance of simulating actual game conditions. As a starting pitcher he needs someone to stand beside him and hum the "Star Spangled Banner" before he begins practice.

A blog from the Washington Post reports it a bit differently: "Scherzer, who is so deeply invested in routine that he hummed the Star Spangled Banner before throwing live batting practice in spring training, said he is ready for the chaos."

And the Savannah Morning News says that Matt Williams was the hummer. "It's Max's thing," Williams says.

WHAT A GLORY BOY. HUTCH, RIP THIS ASSHOLE APART. THE FUCKING NERVE, HE HASN'T EVEN WON A GAME.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: ggw on April 16, 2015, 04:30:18 pm
So the story is about Max Scherzer, Matt Williams, and a hummer?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on April 17, 2015, 10:01:05 am
Quote
Paraphrased from News of the Weird:

According to the NY Times, Max Scherzer told Nats manager, Matt Williams, in March that he requires assistance during daily warm up sessions and spoke of the importance of simulating actual game conditions. As a starting pitcher he needs someone to stand beside him and hum the "Star Spangled Banner" before he begins practice.

A blog from the Washington Post reports it a bit differently: "Scherzer, who is so deeply invested in routine that he hummed the Star Spangled Banner before throwing live batting practice in spring training, said he is ready for the chaos."

And the Savannah Morning News says that Matt Williams was the hummer. "It's Max's thing," Williams says.

WHAT A GLORY BOY. HUTCH, RIP THIS ASSHOLE APART. THE FUCKING NERVE, HE HASN'T EVEN WON A GAME.
On top of this, HOW many strike outs does Max have? OVERRATED.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 17, 2015, 11:56:21 am
Quote
Paraphrased from News of the Weird:

According to the NY Times, Max Scherzer told Nats manager, Matt Williams, in March that he requires assistance during daily warm up sessions and spoke of the importance of simulating actual game conditions. As a starting pitcher he needs someone to stand beside him and hum the "Star Spangled Banner" before he begins practice.

A blog from the Washington Post reports it a bit differently: "Scherzer, who is so deeply invested in routine that he hummed the Star Spangled Banner before throwing live batting practice in spring training, said he is ready for the chaos."

And the Savannah Morning News says that Matt Williams was the hummer. "It's Max's thing," Williams says.

WHAT A GLORY BOY. HUTCH, RIP THIS ASSHOLE APART. THE FUCKING NERVE, HE HASN'T EVEN WON A GAME.
On top of this, HOW many strike outs does Max have? OVERRATED.

he's struck out 50% of his at bats this year.  210 million to strikeout every other at bat, ridiculous.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on April 17, 2015, 12:09:39 pm
he's struck out 50% of his at bats this year.  210 million to strikeout every other at bat, ridiculous.
Point is Scherzer sucks at baseball. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go home to my 972 sq ft domicile.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: ggw on April 17, 2015, 12:12:56 pm
Ian Desmond is on pace for 97 errors this season.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 17, 2015, 12:33:03 pm
he's struck out 50% of his at bats this year.  210 million to strikeout every other at bat, ridiculous.
Point is Scherzer sucks at baseball. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go home to my 972 sq ft domicile.

I'd like to point out that the cost of a 972 sf house in Arlington is probably about the same as a six bedroom house on five acres of land in Richmond.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 17, 2015, 12:54:23 pm
he's struck out 50% of his at bats this year.  210 million to strikeout every other at bat, ridiculous.
Point is Scherzer sucks at baseball. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go home to my 972 sq ft domicile.

I'd like to point out that the cost of a 972 sf house in Arlington is probably about the same as a six bedroom house on five acres of land in Richmond.

*mic drop*
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on April 17, 2015, 12:59:43 pm
I guess if that's comforting to one whose children are growing up in squalor, then more power to them.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 17, 2015, 01:05:50 pm
I guess if that's comforting to one whose children are growing up in squalor, then more power to them.

That's about the average size for a house in Europe, and I'd hardly say the average child in Europe is living in squalor.

http://www.demographia.com/db-intlhouse.htm

Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: ggw on April 17, 2015, 01:11:35 pm
he's struck out 50% of his at bats this year.  210 million to strikeout every other at bat, ridiculous.
Point is Scherzer sucks at baseball. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go home to my 972 sq ft domicile.

I'd like to point out that the cost of a 972 sf house in Arlington is probably about the same as a six bedroom house on five acres of land in Richmond.

It's all about the land and the location.  Hutch's land alone is worth $475k, while your land and house together only come in at $437,600.  And your lot (11,724 sq. ft) is twice the size as Hutch's (5,125 sq. ft).
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on April 17, 2015, 01:13:01 pm
Why on God's green Earth do you know where Rhett lives? What sort of dinner party from hell did I miss out on?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on April 17, 2015, 01:15:27 pm
Ian Desmond is on pace for 97 errors this season.
Just give him 2 more weeks and we'll be in May and he'll remember how to play defense.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: ggw on April 17, 2015, 01:16:13 pm
I guess if that's comforting to one whose children are growing up in squalor, then more power to them.

That's about the average size for a house in Europe, and I'd hardly say the average child in Europe is living in squalor.

http://www.demographia.com/db-intlhouse.htm

You're living quite well, on an international scale.  1,226 sq ft, not including 334 more in the basement, the 368 sq. ft deck, and the 432 sq. ft attached garage.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 17, 2015, 01:17:12 pm
Why on God's green Earth do you know where Rhett lives? What sort of dinner party from hell did I miss out on?

You aint the only creep here.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on April 17, 2015, 01:20:43 pm
You aint the only creep here.
(http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Mitt-Romney-Head-Nod.gif)
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: ggw on April 17, 2015, 01:21:20 pm
Why on God's green Earth do you know where Rhett lives? What sort of dinner party from hell did I miss out on?

You aint the only creep here.

Do those solar panels work well?  Seems like the tree cover would keep them shady a lot of the time.

And I never figured you for a basketball guy.  That Fisher Price basketball hoop next to the adult hoop is toooo precious.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on April 17, 2015, 07:57:00 pm
my kids growing up in squalor? in North Arlington???

this is some funny shit guys..



Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on April 19, 2015, 02:54:08 pm
nice to see Span back


what are thoughts/general thinking on wearing an Expos cap? is it cool, dorky, irrelevant or idiotic?


technically it is the same franchise and I always liked the Expos a lot.....


Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on April 19, 2015, 03:39:16 pm
It depends if someone is doing it as an intentional throwback or if their parents are just raising them in a shanty town because they selfishly go to a bunch of concerts instead of putting a proper roof over their heads and put money away for college and they cannot afford a new hat.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on April 19, 2015, 06:44:25 pm
It depends if someone is doing it as an intentional throwback


in that case its not idiotic? what are you saying other than predictable off topic blathering on about my family?

I mowed the lawn yesterday fyi.


Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on April 20, 2015, 09:27:26 am
nice to see Span back


what are thoughts/general thinking on wearing an Expos cap? is it cool, dorky, irrelevant or idiotic?


technically it is the same franchise and I always liked the Expos a lot.....



I don't mind it. I went to the game on Saturday and there was a row of a few Phillies fans sitting in front of us. Some of the people were nice and giggled whenever I booed when they clapped. There was other fans at the end of the row rooting very loudly for the Phillies WHILE wearing Islanders gear and screaming "NATS SUCK" and "CAPS SUCK" so, naturally, I just told them that their teams suck and they should go back to their trash state of New Jersey. They didn't take too kindly to it, but the Nats faithful joined me in booing them whenever they said anything. I'm all for friendly banter between opposing team fans, but man, some people can truly be obnoxious. Of course it was the one game we lost the Phils too lol. Damn it.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on April 20, 2015, 09:32:32 am
Some of the people were nice and giggled whenever I booed when they clapped. There was other fans at the end of the row rooting very loudly for the Phillies WHILE wearing Islanders gear and screaming "NATS SUCK" and "CAPS SUCK" so, naturally, I just told them that their teams suck and they should go back to their trash state of New Jersey. They didn't take too kindly to it, but the Nats faithful joined me in booing them whenever they said anything.
I know I have been reading /r/ThatHappened on reddit for too long that I was honestly awaiting people audibly gasping at your clever retort to them, people bursting into applause, and someone giving you $100 to buy beer.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on April 20, 2015, 09:38:31 am
I just don't understand why home team fans let people like that scream for hours on end. There were people with kids and stuff around. I'm not gonna scream "Hey dude fuck off" or be like "shut up" because at the end of the day it is a sports event... but it's just super obnoxious. It's bad enough that DC fans barely cheer, but they pretty much get walked all over unless it's a Redskins game. Even then, if the Skins are losing, the fans are pretty much out of it. At least they stand up against opposing team fans. Same thing happened at the Caps game last week. Surrounded by Caps fans and the most audible ones were the 4 Islanders fans in our section.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on April 20, 2015, 12:45:22 pm
Phillies fans are the worst..

I remember the season opener a few years ago where the Nats organization advertised tikets in the Philly area and there were buses and everything organized to bring the Phillies fans... they took over the stadium! they were booing loudly when Ryan Z. was getting the silver slugger award.. they were smoking cigs in plain view... I mean it was ridiculous

Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on April 20, 2015, 01:22:44 pm
Not to mention if it was a bobblehead game against the Phils, they'd rip the heads off and throw them on the field. They are all trash.

Any who, good to see the Nats bats waking up!
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 20, 2015, 01:26:42 pm
can we start a kickstarter campaign to send DFA1979 and hutch on a date to the next nats home series vs. the phillies? i'll donate at least enough for a couple of beers for you guys.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: ggw on April 20, 2015, 01:29:55 pm
can we start a kickstarter campaign to send DFA1979 and hutch on a date to the next nats home series vs. the phillies? i'll donate at least enough for a couple of beers for you guys.

I'll kick in if Hutch wears a Harper jersey.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on April 20, 2015, 01:34:10 pm
can we start a kickstarter campaign to send DFA1979 and hutch on a date to the next nats home series vs. the phillies? i'll donate at least enough for a couple of beers for you guys.
I'll throw in $$ towards this. Hutch and DFA1979 in a small, contained geographic area? Worth it.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on April 21, 2015, 10:30:39 am
can we start a kickstarter campaign to send DFA1979 and hutch on a date to the next nats home series vs. the phillies? i'll donate at least enough for a couple of beers for you guys.
I'll throw in $$ towards this. Hutch and DFA1979 in a small, contained geographic area? Worth it.
Aw, man.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on April 21, 2015, 12:13:02 pm
I don't go to phillies games....to be honest these days I don't get to many games due to the kids... I"ll be at one of the Dodgers-Nats games though...
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 21, 2015, 12:28:54 pm
I don't go to phillies games....to be honest these days I don't get to many games due to the kids... I"ll be at one of the Dodgers-Nats games though...

I can see using "I have kids" as an excuse to attend less concerts. I do that myself.

But using "I have kids" as an excuse for attending fewer baseball games? How does that work?  ???
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Got Haggis? on April 21, 2015, 01:09:07 pm
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/wp/2015/04/21/biggest-error-of-the-nationals-season-dumping-chuck-browns-bustin-loose/
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on April 21, 2015, 02:24:32 pm
I don't go to phillies games....to be honest these days I don't get to many games due to the kids... I"ll be at one of the Dodgers-Nats games though...

I can see using "I have kids" as an excuse to attend less concerts. I do that myself.

But using "I have kids" as an excuse for attending fewer baseball games? How does that work?  ???

huh...its hard for me to get to the balpark by 7.....and then by the time i get home its real late and i'm cashed out...

concerts are a breeze comparatively plus i get back so much more...i can be around for dinner and hang out with my kids..put them to bed..

i found when i didn't have kids i was going to about 20 games a year...since i've had kids i've gone to but a few.. moving from dc to arlington explains part of it..

also i didn't used to have tv for like a decade... now i got tons of sports and baseball on.. i like to relax and watch some after the kids have gone to bed

as far as taking the kids on weekends.. we take them to one or two games a year... its usually a huge painful production...is taking 2 and 4 year olds to games really worth it? i see other parents doing it and they all seem to be leaving by the 5th inning...

so there you go..
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on April 21, 2015, 02:29:36 pm
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/wp/2015/04/21/biggest-error-of-the-nationals-season-dumping-chuck-browns-bustin-loose/
Smh. This was a cool "hey it's a DC sports team thing" thing and of course they'd get rid of it. Their response was it's still in the rotation. Sheesh.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: ggw on April 21, 2015, 02:42:03 pm
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/wp/2015/04/21/biggest-error-of-the-nationals-season-dumping-chuck-browns-bustin-loose/

Do they still play Waiting Room at the home games of the Landover NFL franchise?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 21, 2015, 03:31:55 pm
I don't go to phillies games....to be honest these days I don't get to many games due to the kids... I"ll be at one of the Dodgers-Nats games though...

I can see using "I have kids" as an excuse to attend less concerts. I do that myself.

But using "I have kids" as an excuse for attending fewer baseball games? How does that work?  ???

huh...its hard for me to get to the balpark by 7.....and then by the time i get home its real late and i'm cashed out...

concerts are a breeze comparatively plus i get back so much more...i can be around for dinner and hang out with my kids..put them to bed..

i found when i didn't have kids i was going to about 20 games a year...since i've had kids i've gone to but a few.. moving from dc to arlington explains part of it..

also i didn't used to have tv for like a decade... now i got tons of sports and baseball on.. i like to relax and watch some after the kids have gone to bed

as far as taking the kids on weekends.. we take them to one or two games a year... its usually a huge painful production...is taking 2 and 4 year olds to games really worth it? i see other parents doing it and they all seem to be leaving by the 5th inning...

so there you go..

All very good points. No doubt you'll go to more games as the kids get older. Assuming the develop an interest in going.

For the two to for year old set, there's always Sunday games with kids run the bases, the playground area, and feeding them lots of snacks.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 28, 2015, 10:28:00 pm
anyone still watching this?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on April 28, 2015, 10:29:24 pm
anyone still watching this?
one of my best friends is a Braves fan, he's drunk, and he's blowing up my phone with texts about "motherfucking Dan uggla".
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on April 28, 2015, 10:37:14 pm
I was watching...what a huge HR...now to hold on..
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 28, 2015, 11:06:34 pm
i'm no dan uggla fan, but holy shit did he just totally shit on his old team or what?

seems like a nice turning point to the rough start.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on April 29, 2015, 06:51:39 am
i think uggla has played his way off this team once rendon comes back (though when rendon will be back is another issue entirely) but man, was last night cool or what? had to feel great for him to do that in atlanta

in the bigger picture, hopefully that incredible comeback kicked some life into this team.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on April 29, 2015, 08:42:51 am
i think uggla has played his way off this team once rendon comes back (though when rendon will be back is another issue entirely) but man, was last night cool or what? had to feel great for him to do that in atlanta

in the bigger picture, hopefully that incredible comeback kicked some life into this team.

definitely
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: imbecile on April 29, 2015, 08:44:52 am
anyone still watching this?

I turned it off when we were down like 10-2 or whatever it was.  Got to this thread and thought "no way" had no idea what you guys were on about.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on April 29, 2015, 09:47:17 am
What a game. Wow. AJ Cole really let it go there in the 2nd. Crazy. Poor kid lol. Talk about picking up your pitcher. What a crazy game. Did not think Uggla would smash that homer. Insane. Such a fun game to watch! Hopefully this lights a fire under these guys.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 29, 2015, 10:48:50 am
What a game. Wow. AJ Cole really let it go there in the 2nd. Crazy. Poor kid lol. Talk about picking up your pitcher. What a crazy game. Did not think Uggla would smash that homer. Insane. Such a fun game to watch! Hopefully this lights a fire under these guys.

AJ Cole may never be the same again.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on April 29, 2015, 10:57:41 am
Did not think Uggla would smash that homer.
I don't know if you saw the entire game but he hit a huge 2-RBI triple earlier in the game too. He was absolutely ripping the cover off of the ball and the heart out of my drunk friend's chest.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on April 29, 2015, 11:06:21 am
Did not think Uggla would smash that homer.
I don't know if you saw the entire game but he hit a huge 2-RBI triple earlier in the game too. He was absolutely ripping the cover off of the ball and the heart out of my drunk friend's chest.
He had such a huge game. To be put in that spot against his old team. So awesome. I missed an inning or two driving from the bar back to my house. I believe that's when we made it 10-6. Super fun. Excited to see how both teams come out tonight.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on April 29, 2015, 11:45:16 am
i'm no dan uggla fan, but holy shit did he just totally shit on his old team or what?

seems like a nice turning point to the rough start.

This is cute, but no, he's still Dan Uggla and despite last night's performance, he raised his avg to a paltry .190,  still below the Mendoza line.

This is my worst nightmare though - the Braves paid Uggla last night somewhere around $78k to nearly single-handedly beat them.  That has to be the worst part.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on April 29, 2015, 11:46:17 am
This is my worst nightmare though - the Braves paid Uggla last night somewhere around $78k to nearly single-handedly beat them.  That has to be the worst part.
That was my friend's sentiment. Anyone but Dan Uggla.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on April 29, 2015, 11:47:36 am
i'm no dan uggla fan, but holy shit did he just totally shit on his old team or what?

seems like a nice turning point to the rough start.

This is cute, but no, he's still Dan Uggla and despite last night's performance, he raised his avg to a paltry .190,  still below the Mendoza line.

This is my worst nightmare though - the Braves paid Uggla last night somewhere around $78k to nearly single-handedly beat them.  That has to be the worst part.


oh, woah.  i was saying "nice turning point to the nats rough start".

dan uggla is the worst and i thank him for last nights game it was really exciting and i hope he never plays another inning for the nats again.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on April 29, 2015, 11:53:10 am
oh, woah.  i was saying "nice turning point to the nats rough start".

dan uggla is the worst and i thank him for last nights game it was really exciting and i hope he never plays another inning for the nats again.

Ah, I see.  That makes more sense.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on April 30, 2015, 10:45:32 am
26 runs in 2 games. Are they going to go through these insane spurts of scoring a ridiculous amount of runs and then another ridiculous spurt of not scoring runs? This is absurd.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on May 02, 2015, 02:53:16 pm
I just want to say for the record that I am taking full credit for Bryce Harper's improvement.....sometimes criticism- warranted or not- can spur people to take stock and make the necessary changes to improve their game...

I think this is clearly one of those instances...
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: imbecile on May 06, 2015, 03:13:10 pm
Pretty good day i picked to skip out on work for the afternoon and go see the Nats.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on May 06, 2015, 03:21:36 pm
Pretty good day i picked to skip out on work for the afternoon and go see the Nats.
Point is, Bryce Harper sucks at baseball.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on May 06, 2015, 03:55:52 pm
Pretty good day i picked to skip out on work for the afternoon and go see the Nats.
Point is, Bryce Harper sucks at baseball.

not anymore man.. he's the best! every time I curse him he hits a homer..

Bryce MVP!
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on May 06, 2015, 03:59:59 pm
Pretty good day i picked to skip out on work for the afternoon and go see the Nats.
Point is, Bryce Harper sucks at baseball.

not anymore man.. he's the best! every time I curse him he hits a homer..

Bryce MVP!

MVP sporting a .265 batting average? point is, bryce harper sucks at baseball.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on May 06, 2015, 04:03:35 pm
Pretty good day i picked to skip out on work for the afternoon and go see the Nats.
Point is, Bryce Harper sucks at baseball.

not anymore man.. he's the best! every time I curse him he hits a homer..

Bryce MVP!

MVP sporting a .265 batting average? point is, bryce harper sucks at baseball.

WTF?? He's only 18 years old and in his first season...

BRYCE I LOVE YOU! Look forward to seeing you at that pizza place you hang with (I wont disclose location cause I'm honor bound)
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on May 07, 2015, 01:14:41 pm
man that was a bomb..
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on May 07, 2015, 01:14:47 pm
Pretty good day i picked to skip out on work for the afternoon and go see the Nats.
Point is, Bryce Harper sucks at baseball.

not anymore man.. he's the best! every time I curse him he hits a homer..

Bryce MVP!

MVP sporting a .265 batting average? point is, bryce harper sucks at baseball.

WTF?? He's only 18 years old and in his first season...

BRYCE I LOVE YOU! Look forward to seeing you at that pizza place you hang with (I wont disclose location cause I'm honor bound)
:-\
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on May 07, 2015, 04:44:20 pm
Pretty good day i picked to skip out on work for the afternoon and go see the Nats.
Point is, Bryce Harper sucks at baseball.

not anymore man.. he's the best! every time I curse him he hits a homer..

Bryce MVP!

MVP sporting a .265 batting average? point is, bryce harper sucks at baseball.

WTF?? He's only 18 years old and in his first season...

BRYCE I LOVE YOU! Look forward to seeing you at that pizza place you hang with (I wont disclose location cause I'm honor bound)
:-\

what? you want me to disclose where he goes to eat pizza after games so you can stalk him or something?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: ggw on May 07, 2015, 04:52:59 pm
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Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on May 09, 2015, 07:29:35 pm
some week for harper huh
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on May 09, 2015, 08:55:48 pm
some week for harper huh
No. Point is, he sucks at baseball.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on May 10, 2015, 10:27:55 am
some people respond well to criticism...

I take full credit for his finally delivering on the promise....

Impressive streak for sure...
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on May 11, 2015, 09:44:52 am
some people respond well to criticism...

I take full credit for his finally delivering on the promise....

Impressive streak for sure...
God damn 22 year olds never deliver!

He leads the leagues in taters? I thought the league lead was higher than 12 for some reason. Awesome to see the bats heating up! If only we could get Rendon back...
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on May 11, 2015, 11:48:18 am
Remember when Kevin Maas was the fastest player ever to hit 10 HR's?  Something like 70 AB's....

I think he's an accountant now or something.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on May 11, 2015, 11:58:39 am
Remember when Kevin Maas was the fastest player ever to hit 10 HR's?  Something like 70 AB's....

I think he's an accountant now or something.

https://www.linkedin.com/pub/kevin-maas-cfp%C2%AE/3/b96/78b
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on May 21, 2015, 10:16:02 am
I can't wait for Hutch's take on Harper getting tossed last night.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: imbecile on May 21, 2015, 11:21:44 am
#umpshow
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on May 21, 2015, 11:41:44 am
bryce was definitely pushing his luck but at the same time hudson was totally baiting him (not for the first time either) and thats unacceptable. harper was back in the box ready to go when hudson stepped out to yell at matt williams. bryce's quip after that was a mistake he shouldnt have made but hudson could have easily let the situation diffuse itself by then. there are times when an ejection is called for but its not ok for an ump to personally escalate like that

i guess the nats lodged a formal complaint, whatever that means, so itll be interesting to see if anything happens with that
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on May 21, 2015, 01:16:47 pm
Hasn't this guy tossed 3 different Nats managers now? He tossed out Davey for sure... I laughed when Matt kicked dirt onto the home plate.

ARod also stepped out of the box. Should have been tossed.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: imbecile on May 21, 2015, 02:03:23 pm
There were so many problems with the ump lastnight.  I was at the game and saw the whole thing happen one way - looked to me like Harper was ready to go, then the ump started jawing with Matt Williams in the dug out, drawing Matt out, so then Harper backed out the box to let them go at it.  Then all of a sudden the ump was ready to go and tossed Bryce for not being there.  My friend sitting next to me saw it this way - Harper knew the rule about being in the box and wasting time and showed up the ump by just putting his toe in the box.  So, i can see how it's muddled.  But anyway, seemed an overreaction.

And when you factor in the crap the Yankees got away with it really did look vindictive.  Four straight K's looking, all on questionable pitches.  The yanks getting forever just to determine whether or not they wanted to challenge the out at first - where was the need to speed the game up then.  The ump was quick to go the mound and break up the Nats little meeting in the 8th inning.  Yanks had plenty of guys backing out the box without issue.  I understand filing a complaint, but yeah.. no idea what that even means.  Oh well, Nats won and A-Rod got called out on a pitch that was definitely a ball high and inside.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on May 21, 2015, 03:18:46 pm
I can't recall Mike Trout ever being ejected. #teamfirst
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on May 21, 2015, 03:19:29 pm
I can't recall Mike Trout ever being ejected. #teamfirst
Obviously he's not passionate.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on May 21, 2015, 03:21:44 pm
Obviously he's not passionate.

Or he's an adult and acts like one?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on May 21, 2015, 03:33:05 pm
Obviously he's not passionate.

Or he's an adult and acts like one?
Wait, no adults have ever been kicked out of baseball games before?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on May 21, 2015, 03:49:13 pm
Wait, no adults have ever been kicked out of baseball games before?

There's a fault in that logic, and frankly, I'm not sure how you derived that from what I said, but the reality is only two people should ever get ejected from a baseball game:

The Manager for various reasons;

The pitcher defending his battery mates.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on May 21, 2015, 03:57:23 pm
the reality is only two people should ever get ejected from a baseball game:

The Manager for various reasons;

The pitcher defending his battery mates.
You put the blame for Harper getting thrown out last night on him? I don't even like the Nats but it seemed pretty clear to me that was an ump just completely making himself the show.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on May 21, 2015, 04:28:16 pm
Wait, no adults have ever been kicked out of baseball games before?

There's a fault in that logic, and frankly, I'm not sure how you derived that from what I said, but the reality is only two people should ever get ejected from a baseball game:

The Manager for various reasons;

The pitcher defending his battery mates.
I was being sarcastic because you implited Harper wasn't being a team player. If anything I thought he wasn't trying to get involved. He was in the box. Hudson started barking back at the dug out towards Williams, Bryce stepped out because Hudson stepped out and started walking over to the dug out. The ump was being a ding dong.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on May 21, 2015, 04:56:41 pm
First off, he argued balls and strikes, but yes, he was being rather polite about it:  "Don't you think that was a little low?"

The ump said shut up and hit, probably not very politely. 

Then Williams jumped in, Bryce stepped out.

But it was HOW Bryce got back in the box that got him tossed:

http://video.businessinsider.com/8f87069c-97c4-4090-8cc2-73de648c7f6b.mp4

Are you telling me that you would have not thrown him out for the way he mockingly ran back to the box?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on May 21, 2015, 05:00:25 pm
no way. let the players play. like i said, bryce was pushing it so i dont have full sympathy here, but hes right that no one comes to watch an umpire. in my book it takes something truly egregious to warrant an ejection, and bryce didnt cross that line

and again, if hudson hadnt stepped out to continue arguing with williams, harper would have never had the chance to mockingly run back into the box. how is it ok for an ump to escalate like that? managers jaw from the dugout all the time and umps ignore them, but this ump had to get his say in too?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on May 21, 2015, 05:37:37 pm
Are you telling me that you would have not thrown him out for the way he mockingly ran back to the box?
Are you kidding me? Hell no. Get out of here with that. Be serious.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on May 21, 2015, 08:34:23 pm
There's no innocent party here, but there's only one person with authority, and the petulant child STILL hasn't figured that out.

He acts bigger than the game, he wants to be treated like a star veteran after one great month of baseball, and it's just not going to happen.

Didn't see a whole lot of current players come to his defense (actually, I haven't seen a single one), and that should tell you something.   
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on May 22, 2015, 06:28:49 am
i couldnt care less about attitude or respecting the game or what other players think (though i imagine many would publicly support bryce if it didnt risk pissing the precious umpires off) or any other old timey sentimental buzzwords, that one person with authority baiting confrontation and ejecting one of the most exciting players in the game right now cuz he hurt your feelings is a bad look for baseball. the fact that this isnt the first time an umpires done exactly that to harper and the nats makes it even worse.

there was a game in pittsburgh a few years ago where harper checked his swing, 3rd base ump called it a strike, bryce muttered something, and the ump walks down the line yelling at him. bryce took the bait, yelled back, got ejected. how on earth is that acceptable behavior from an umpire? why are they immune from criticism because harper doesnt respect their inflated sense of authority enough?

the baffled look on jim joyce's (not exactly a beacon of rational umpiring) face while hudson was puffing his chest out at harper and williams wednesday night said it all
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on May 22, 2015, 09:32:25 am
He acts bigger than the game  
wat
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on May 23, 2015, 10:11:54 am
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Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on May 25, 2015, 09:26:39 pm
Slow jams during BP irk the Phillies

http://www.csnwashington.com/baseball-washington-nationals/talk/nats-music-philadelphia-phillies-ryne-sandberg-jeff-francoeur-phil-collins-sinead-oconnor
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on May 26, 2015, 10:20:57 am
^^^^^^^^^^ so amazing lololol
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 26, 2015, 10:37:35 am
Slow jams during BP irk the Phillies

http://www.csnwashington.com/baseball-washington-nationals/talk/nats-music-philadelphia-phillies-ryne-sandberg-jeff-francoeur-phil-collins-sinead-oconnor

the likes of Sinead O'Connor, Phil Collins and Sarah McLachlan.

Other than the one good Frank Sinatra song that plays when Harper comes to bat, I'll take any of the above artists over the walkup music played for the rest of the Nats.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on May 26, 2015, 11:24:46 am
Slow jams during BP irk the Phillies

http://www.csnwashington.com/baseball-washington-nationals/talk/nats-music-philadelphia-phillies-ryne-sandberg-jeff-francoeur-phil-collins-sinead-oconnor

the likes of Sinead O'Connor, Phil Collins and Sarah McLachlan.

Other than the one good Frank Sinatra song that plays when Harper comes to bat, I'll take any of the above artists over the walkup music played for the rest of the Nats.
You don't like Denard Span's "Flicka Da Wrist"!? Or when Drew Storen comes out to Johnny Cash!? Come on!
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on May 26, 2015, 02:20:50 pm
Harper sucks.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on May 26, 2015, 02:32:47 pm
Harper sucks.
You forgot to say "Point is," and "at baseball."
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on May 26, 2015, 02:53:05 pm
Point is Harper sucks at baseball.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on May 26, 2015, 03:08:23 pm
That's better.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: sweetcell on May 26, 2015, 03:18:21 pm
Point is Harper sucks at baseball.

uh... you can say you don't like his style, his hair, his attitude, whatever... but you can't say that he sucks at baseball:

Quote
The early numbers are staggering. Barely past the season's quarter mark, Harper leads the major leagues in runs (39), extra base hits (26), walks (40), OPS (1.198), isolated power (.393) and Wins Above Replacement (4.1).

He's even wielding some serious leather. According to Baseball Info Solutions, Harper leads big league right fielders with 10 Defensive Runs Saved. St. Louis' Jason Heyward, the confirmed gold standard at the position, has four DRS.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/12950936/washington-nationals-bryce-harper-taking-baseball-storm

but maybe i'm missing something... like "baseball is more than just on-field performance"?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on May 26, 2015, 03:26:26 pm
but maybe i'm missing something...
He said this a week into the season when Harper was struggling and he has since claimed his "shaming" Harper has been the cause of Harper's improvement. I believe he is saying it today in that vain.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on May 26, 2015, 03:29:16 pm
Harper sucks.
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Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on May 26, 2015, 03:54:30 pm
but maybe i'm missing something...
He said this a week into the season when Harper was struggling and he has since claimed his "shaming" Harper has been the cause of Harper's improvement. I believe he is saying it today in that vain.

vein
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on May 26, 2015, 03:56:13 pm
but maybe i'm missing something...
He said this a week into the season when Harper was struggling and he has since claimed his "shaming" Harper has been the cause of Harper's improvement. I believe he is saying it today in that vain.

vein
Damn you, unchecked voice-to-text!
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on May 26, 2015, 03:58:39 pm
but maybe i'm missing something...
He said this a week into the season when Harper was struggling and he has since claimed his "shaming" Harper has been the cause of Harper's improvement. I believe he is saying it today in that vain.

vein
Damn you, unchecked voice-to-text!


yeah.. made my day...
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Space Freely on May 27, 2015, 10:51:42 am
We went to our first game this year on Sunday. Nats won 4-1 in workmanlike fashion. Kid ran the bases. No interesting stories there. But I do have a crowd story.

Two rows below us sat a group of 75+ fans. They were old. They were fragile. But kudos to them for getting out there and going to the ballpark. As best I could tell, unaccompanied by anyone younger. Hopefully it won't be their last trip to the ballpark, but you never know.

One row below us sat a group of 20somethings. Isn't it great how such a diverse array of white people make it to the same ballgame? Anyway, amongst that group was the star of this story, and unkempt looking dude who looked like he had just dropped in from a Phish concert. Short, unruly, whiteboy fro, unshaven face and neck, and worst of all (for those of us behind him), plenty of pubic hair growing all over the back of his neck. Anyway, this guy comes back to his seat with a trey of food and a $10 swill beer stacked on the trey, and that's where the story begins.

Somehow, he manages to dump his entire trey of food and beer on the 75+ lady in front of him. Her white t-shirt is completely soaked with beer. Her white Nats hat is covered with ketchup which has also been washed with beer.

What happens next? Well I'd like to say that the lady's 75+ husband pummeled the shit out of mini-Trey, but it didn't happen. I'd like to say that mini-Trey apologized profusely and then went and promptly bought the lady a new t-shirt and hat. But none of those things happened, we observed not even a hint of an apology. After a short period, mini-Trey did get up...and....brought her a pile of paper towels so her husband could dry her off.

An inning later, mini-Trey went and got a fresh beer for himself. A little surprisingly, he didn't eat any of the portion of the food that had fallen on the ground in front of him. And I headed for a loo break where I ran into the husband who was furiously scrubbing the ketchup out of his wife's hat. An inning later,  the old people were gone. I hope it wasn't their last Nats game.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on May 27, 2015, 11:42:29 am
That's pretty shitty. Nats games is where I've encountered less bro-y people. It's more uptight, yuppie douchebags there who sit on their phone with their sunglasses on the back of their heads. That's a real shame though! I went to the first game against the Yankees last week and sat behind the dugout and there was a lot of older people in the section. Really old people rooting for the Yanks. It's cool to see that though.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on May 27, 2015, 12:07:42 pm
There are asshole fans of every team, at every age, including fans of my favorite teams. Its unfortunate when you turn up sitting near them, that's for sure.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on May 27, 2015, 12:22:31 pm
but maybe i'm missing something... like "baseball is more than just on-field performance"?

The only things folks are missing right now is his ability to do this for an entire season.

This is his best chance yet though.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on May 27, 2015, 09:57:41 pm
You'd figure Harper could carry the team.....he's the best.

remember when hutch said this all smart ass and such? 
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on May 28, 2015, 07:57:32 am
You'd figure Harper could carry the team.....he's the best.

remember when hutch said this all smart ass and such? 

I remember....glad my reverse psychology worked...it was time.... do you guys think he goes to the Yankees or stays a Nat?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on May 28, 2015, 10:35:01 am
Dang that Max Scherzer is insane. 13 Ks last night. Crazy. CRAZY! Just bought tickets for Tuesday. I need to see this guy pitch!
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on May 28, 2015, 07:21:48 pm
Dang that Max Scherzer is insane. 13 Ks last night. Crazy. CRAZY! Just bought tickets for Tuesday. I need to see this guy pitch!

yup...great acquisition..the guy has the goods.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on May 29, 2015, 11:14:40 am
Bought my tickets for Tuesday. Has anyone used Seat Geek? I hear their ads all the time on the sports radio channels and I finally checked it out. Got seats in section 128 [behind the home dugout] for 25 bucks each. Checked elsewhere and the tickets were going for $122 each. Insane!
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: brennser on May 29, 2015, 11:46:07 am
seat geek is great

Bought my tickets for Tuesday. Has anyone used Seat Geek? I hear their ads all the time on the sports radio channels and I finally checked it out. Got seats in section 128 [behind the home dugout] for 25 bucks each. Checked elsewhere and the tickets were going for $122 each. Insane!
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on May 29, 2015, 02:55:42 pm
yup...great acquisition..the guy has the goods.

From Buster:

Harper and Scherzer have played well together. In fact, Harper now has eight homers in the 10 games Scherzer has started this season, just two fewer than he has in the 37 games started by everyone else. He also has backed Scherzer with a .524 OBP and 1.121 slugging percentage.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on May 29, 2015, 03:05:36 pm
Those 2 plus Storen are on some kind of heater.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on June 11, 2015, 12:04:36 pm
Sleep well.....

https://instagram.com/p/3t7BgagIaP/?taken-by=bharper3407

Alex Rodriguez?s 10-year, $275 million deal expires after the 2017 season.
Mark Teixeira?s eight-year, $180 million deal expires after the 2016 season.
Sabathia?s contract ? including the extension expires by the end of the 2017 season.
Carlos Beltran?s $45 million deal will be over after 2016.
Brian McCann?s $85 million deal will conclude after 2018.
Chase Headley?s $52 million deal will end in 2018.
Brett Gardner?s $52 million deal will end in 2018.
Andrew Miller?s $36 million ends in 2018.

If he's not a Yankee in 2019....
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on June 11, 2015, 02:34:59 pm
Can we get through this year first, geez.  ???
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: imbecile on June 11, 2015, 03:25:50 pm
Sleep well.....

https://instagram.com/p/3t7BgagIaP/?taken-by=bharper3407

Alex Rodriguez?s 10-year, $275 million deal expires after the 2017 season.
Mark Teixeira?s eight-year, $180 million deal expires after the 2016 season.
Sabathia?s contract ? including the extension expires by the end of the 2017 season.
Carlos Beltran?s $45 million deal will be over after 2016.
Brian McCann?s $85 million deal will conclude after 2018.
Chase Headley?s $52 million deal will end in 2018.
Brett Gardner?s $52 million deal will end in 2018.
Andrew Miller?s $36 million ends in 2018.

If he's not a Yankee in 2019....

Phew.. yeah, i was looking at this the other day.  Not sure what, if anything, they can do to keep him around longer.  He's getting 5m next year (2016), then i think two arbitration years.

Now is probably our (the Nationals) last chance to lock him down for a longer period while that $5m season is still on his contract.  Significant raise to that 2016 salary could get us a few more years.  He'd probably be nuts to sign anything more than a 3 or 4 year deal, if that, after this season.  But i honestly have no idea.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 11, 2015, 03:30:09 pm
If you guys all refrain from buying Prince tickets, maybe you'll have enough to create a fund that will succcessfully keep Harper in town.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on June 15, 2015, 09:46:54 am
The Nats (finally)  acquire Padres prospect Trea Turner as the player to be named later.  He's a good one.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on June 15, 2015, 03:31:42 pm
he'll look good in pinstripes considering he's a dick.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on June 15, 2015, 03:46:46 pm
he'll look good in pinstripes considering he's a dick.
Whoa, what do you have against Trea Turner?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Sidehatch ılılıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llılılı on June 15, 2015, 04:46:17 pm
he'll look good in pinstripes considering he's a dick.
Whoa, what do you have against Trea Turner?
I always thought Ike was the a$$h0le, but tell me why you don't like Trea
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on June 17, 2015, 09:54:37 am
So, that Nats should get shut out tonight.... right?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 17, 2015, 10:47:27 pm
So, that Nats should get shut out tonight.... right?

Right.

And I was going to post that, but didn't want to jinx them. Like you did!
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on June 18, 2015, 01:20:22 pm
I was hoping to reverse jinx them.

At least they're consistent about their inconsistency.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on June 18, 2015, 01:25:15 pm
I would not fire Matt Williams at this point.. I know there are a lot of people demanding his head but maybe he can still turn it around although being in the bottom half of MLB teams is pretty dissapointing..
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on June 19, 2015, 01:56:15 pm
but maybe i'm missing something... like "baseball is more than just on-field performance"?

The only things folks are missing right now is his ability to do this for an entire season.

This is his best chance yet though.

Or is it?

(http://a1.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=%2Fphoto%2F2015%2F0618%2Fmlb_r_harper_mb_1296x729.jpg&w=267)
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 19, 2015, 05:27:26 pm
I would not fire Matt Williams at this point.. I know there are a lot of people demanding his head but maybe he can still turn it around although being in the bottom half of MLB teams is pretty dissapointing..

Maybe they will bring Davey back.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on June 19, 2015, 07:16:58 pm
I would not fire Matt Williams at this point.. I know there are a lot of people demanding his head but maybe he can still turn it around although being in the bottom half of MLB teams is pretty dissapointing..

Maybe they will bring Davey back.

Davey was out of gas....done..put a fork in him...he didn't deserve to be fired but he was done....

Obviously even out of gas he's 10 times the manager Matt Williams will ever be...

Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 19, 2015, 10:30:00 pm
Let's hope that Joe Ross is not the second coming of Mike Wright.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on June 20, 2015, 06:29:57 pm
scherzer throws a no hitter.  labata leaning into that pitch was reminiscent of curt schilling's no hitter broken up by a bunt.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on June 20, 2015, 07:39:58 pm
I sent hoya the same text.  I would hit Jose Tabata so fucking hard tomorrow if I were on the mound and wouldn't care if put him on the DL.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on June 20, 2015, 08:11:45 pm
scherzer es mucho hombre
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on June 20, 2015, 10:43:43 pm
I sent hoya the same text.  I would hit Jose Tabata so fucking hard tomorrow if I were on the mound and wouldn't care if put him on the DL.

i think scherzer is the type of guy i wouldn't want to piss off.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on June 22, 2015, 11:12:37 am
Went to JZimms no no last year and went to Mad Max's this year haha. Oh man. Talk about luck! The crowd was ON FIRE from about the 7th inning on.

Took my dad for father's day. He was stoked after I explained it to him lol. Took my gf last year and she didn't know/care and same with my dad. Hopefully I can see another one with someone who cares about sports history!
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 26, 2015, 09:06:50 pm
Went to JZimms no no last year and went to Mad Max's this year haha. Oh man. Talk about luck! The crowd was ON FIRE from about the 7th inning on.

Took my dad for father's day. He was stoked after I explained it to him lol. Took my gf last year and she didn't know/care and same with my dad. Hopefully I can see another one with someone who cares about sports history!

The first time we ever went on a family vacation to St. Petersburg, Zimmerman threw the Nats first no-hitter on our second day there.

The second time we ever went on a family vacation to St Petersburg, Scherzer throws a no-hitter on our first night there.

If the Nats want a third no-hitter, they're obviously going to need to fund a family vacation to Florida for us.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on June 28, 2015, 11:29:21 am
Normally this would go in the MLB Thread,  but....

 Pirates Designate Jose Tabata For Assignment[/ulr]
 (http://mlb.traderumors.com/2015/06/pirates-designate-jose-tabata-for-assignment-2.html)
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on June 29, 2015, 10:04:50 am
Weren't the Nats looking at him?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on June 29, 2015, 12:16:53 pm
Weren't the Nats looking at him?

Hopefully to kick his ass.  That's worth the league minimum for a day or two.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: stevewizzle on June 29, 2015, 12:20:04 pm
Went to JZimms no no last year and went to Mad Max's this year haha. Oh man. Talk about luck! The crowd was ON FIRE from about the 7th inning on.

Took my dad for father's day. He was stoked after I explained it to him lol. Took my gf last year and she didn't know/care and same with my dad. Hopefully I can see another one with someone who cares about sports history!

my sister was stoned out of her mind when we attended the jon lester no-hitter at fenway back in 2008.  she didn't watch a single play until the 5th inning, and when the 8th inning came around, she looked at the scoreboard and said "holy shit, kansas city doesn't even have a hit yet!".   i thought our section was going to murder us.  if you ask me, attending with people who are clueless about baseball is much more fun.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on June 29, 2015, 03:12:34 pm
Weren't the Nats looking at him?

Hopefully to kick his ass.  That's worth the league minimum for a day or two.
Get that elbow armor all over his body.

@Carlos - solid story.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on July 03, 2015, 10:22:56 am
Finally making my 1st trip to Nats Park today.  Will be weird not having a rooting interest.  Especially when one of the teams will be in orange and black.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 11, 2015, 12:06:46 pm
How fat do they let Tanner Roark get before the put him on a diet?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on July 12, 2015, 08:57:44 pm
small sample size obviously, but im really looking forward to trea turners debut in dc. both of his at bats in the futures game were the complete opposite of ian desmonds average trip to the plate

and with joe ross potentially in the rotation as soon as next year, that trade could end up being one of the biggest coups in recent mlb history
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on July 18, 2015, 12:35:15 am
I'm in LA at the moment.  The overwhelming sentiment is to go back to Canada if you can't even provide proper light.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on July 19, 2015, 12:18:46 pm
Even I am pumped for today's match up.  Probably the greatest pitching Match-up of the year, if not the last ten years....
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on July 20, 2015, 09:50:56 am
Pretty bummed Scherzer only went through 6 innings. Goodness. Dodgers are tough. I'd like to see that series again with a full healthy line-up though.

Harvey coming up tomorrow too? Uy.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: showlistdc on July 20, 2015, 10:14:25 am
9th inning yesterday was seriously disappointing.

Star Wars Day was fun though!
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on July 20, 2015, 02:16:16 pm
9th inning yesterday was seriously disappointing.

Why there was no lefty ready to face Gonzo and Ethier in the 9th is indefensible.  Williams finally got a lefty up, but by then it was 4-0.  If Solis was healthy enough to face Callaspo (4 batters later) why the hell wasn't he ready to face Gonzo and Ethier?  I was just shaking my head.... 

I had the pleasure of switching back and forth between the LA terrestrial broadcast and the Nationals XM broadcast and the differences were amazing.  The DC guys were just bitching about the home plate ump the entire time, while the LA guys were talking about how Harper's antics in the first were going to haunt him later. "There are ways to handle that situation and that's not one of them."  In the middle of the at bat in the 7th he had already burned every bridge and the Dodgers announcer said "Grienke can throw this pitch anywhere he wants because after that stroll up the line, Harper has to swing at it.  I'd throw it in the dirt."
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on July 28, 2015, 07:08:55 pm
Got a Papelboner yet? 

Good luck...
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 28, 2015, 07:39:06 pm
Got a Papelboner yet? 

Good luck...

That's a shitty thing to do to Storen.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on July 28, 2015, 08:01:04 pm
That's a shitty thing to do to Storen.

Not to mention the good fans of Washington....
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on July 29, 2015, 09:02:31 am
Not a clubhouse distraction at all:

http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/just-a-bit-outside/story/washington-nationals-trade-jonathan-papelbon-drew-storen-closer-do-they-need-another-072815
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on July 29, 2015, 02:35:38 pm
That's a shitty thing to do to Storen.

Not to mention the good fans of Washington....
Not stoked about this. Poor Drew.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on July 29, 2015, 06:27:21 pm
im conflicted about the papelbon trade too but im wondering what the people who are adamantly against it wanted rizzo to do instead. seems like he deemed the prices for kimbrel/chapman too high, and even if hed sucked it up and paid it, theyd be displacing storen instead of papelbon. either way drew gets shafted

i get that drew is beloved here and papelbon has a bit (ok, a lot) of a reputation (overblown imo. the guy could stand to shut up from time to time but his past teammates rave about him, and all his media drama seems to be a product of playing for some...interesting fanbases. plus, remember all that "clubhouse cancer" talk about yunel escobar? i havent heard a peep of drama since he came here) but the nats badly needed bullpen help and rizzo got some. storen's having a great year and what the nats really needed was a solid setup man, but if there were none available that fit the price, why not go big and make your lights out closer your new lights out 8th inning guy.

having said that, the success of the trade hinges entirely on how well storen adjusts back to the 8th inning. if he pitches with a chip on his shoulder and gives the nats two shutdown closers, it's the best move rizzo couldve made this week. if he melts down again, the nats are back to square one with a single reliable reliever and less time to fix it. either way, especially with papelbon signed next year (for not too much money, all things considered), i imagine storen is traded this offseason. he seems like a good dude and watching him mature as a pitcher has been great, but its clear his future isnt with this team. tough break but its a results business and storen's late season past has been too shaky for comfort
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on August 14, 2015, 02:51:57 pm
Ted's pocketbook takes a hit

A federal jury ruled Friday that the owners of the White Flint Mall breached their contract with Lord & Taylor after attempting to close the shopping center in favor of building a town center.The mall?s owners, Lerner Enterprises, led by founder and Washington Nationals owner Theodore N. Lerner, were ordered to pay $31 million in damages, about half of what Lord & Taylor sought at trial.

Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on August 14, 2015, 07:11:35 pm
so at this point.....115 or so games into the 162 game season the Nats would not make the playoffs?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: martinrob on August 15, 2015, 01:21:18 am
Thought that Williams had a better starting lineup dialed in and then made a foolish switch with Robinson and Werth.  I would have liked to have seen the lineup remain intact for the duration.
Win the East since wild card is out of reach.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on August 15, 2015, 02:04:18 am
6 games left against the mets, and with their young arms you gotta expect fatigue to set in at some point (since terry collins has said harvey/degroom/syndergaard are supposedly all on innings limits yet wont be shut down), so the division is far from over, but the nats do not deserve a playoff spot right now. theyre digging themselves a mighty deep hole.

speaking of playoffs, how silly is it that as things stand now the second and third best teams in the NL will play each other in a one game playoff for the right to play the #1 seed cardinals.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on August 17, 2015, 09:27:28 am
Not sure why you think that's silly.  The same situation exists in the AL East, as of today.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on August 17, 2015, 09:54:37 am
Thought that Williams had a better starting lineup dialed in and then made a foolish switch with Robinson and Werth.  I would have liked to have seen the lineup remain intact for the duration.
Win the East since wild card is out of reach.
Yeah, no one was saying that while Werth was out. He IS a detriment to this team at this moment though. Right now isn't the time to "wait for guys to get hot." Didn't they go into the all star break with a 4 game lead? Now they are back 4.5? Losers of 6 in a row? I don't know what is more annoying, watching this team suck balls night in and night out or hearing FP Santangello make excuses for them for 3 hours while they pile up strike outs.

Maybe the new Nationals identity is to make the playoffs every other year.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: martinrob on August 17, 2015, 11:55:26 pm
Werth needs to get going and to be a first pitch threat.  Davey Johnson made the same comment back in 2011. https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/nationals-journal/post/should-jayson-werth-swing-at-the-first-pitch-more-often/2012/03/07/gIQAEqggwR_blog.html
 There is not enough time to wait and see for Werth and Rendon to get hot.  Espinosa and Robinson have proved that they are ready for the challenge.
There needs to be a fire lit with the players.  I suggest Murphy Jensen from the Washington Kastles.  The man is enthusiastic and gets his message of Refuse to Lose across to his tennis players but can be accepted by all athletes.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on August 18, 2015, 11:15:45 am
We'll see if they can muster anything in Colorado. Wasn't in back in '13 when they lit up the Rockies and tore it up JUST to miss making the playoffs? Sounds eerie.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on August 21, 2015, 12:58:47 pm
Nationals Disaster: Remember When Washington Was Supposed to Be the Best Team in Baseball? (http://grantland.com/the-triangle/mlb-washington-nationals-collapse-nl-east/)

RG3 and the Dumbest Team in Football (http://grantland.com/the-triangle/rg3-and-the-dumbest-team-in-football/)

Grantland is just straight up trolling DC today.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on August 24, 2015, 11:45:17 am
DC sports curse? I've often scoffed at anyone who brings it up... but god damn.

I haven't watched anything from Skins pre-season, but my friend HAD to show me the "highlights" from RG3 being on the field and it was a fucking travesty.

At least the Nats won back to back series'? Something? 47 more days til hockey?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on August 28, 2015, 07:12:19 pm
Span out for the season, and he's the lucky one.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on August 29, 2015, 07:44:19 pm
epic fail
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on August 30, 2015, 05:51:42 pm
hoping like my Bryce comment my nats comment will act as a reverse curse..
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on August 31, 2015, 10:13:00 am
5 1/2 back. Could have been worse coming out of this weekend. Could get worse with the Cards coming into town. Holy CRAP is Span out a huge gut punch. They should be alright though. Seems like the bats are waking up, finally. Don't have much faith, but there's a good chunk of time to make up ground.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on September 03, 2015, 11:39:51 pm
Harper scores 4 runs and has an RBI without an official at-bat.  Pretty cool.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on September 04, 2015, 09:50:55 am
Normally I'd feel bad for a team that we just beat the piss out of, but it's the Barves. Fuck those guys. Hopefully make up some more ground on the Mets this weekend!
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on September 08, 2015, 11:54:03 am
On the plus side, Matt Harvey will be available this off season and they likely won't trade him in the division, so you've go that going for you.

I could see the Dodgers going after him if (when) Greinke opts out of his deal.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on September 08, 2015, 01:29:50 pm
Can't wait to see us get blanked tonight. Ya know, can't hit against good or even semi-decent pitching and all.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 08, 2015, 09:35:39 pm
im conflicted about the papelbon trade too but im wondering what the people who are adamantly against it wanted rizzo to do instead. seems like he deemed the prices for kimbrel/chapman too high, and even if hed sucked it up and paid it, theyd be displacing storen instead of papelbon. either way drew gets shafted

i get that drew is beloved here and papelbon has a bit (ok, a lot) of a reputation (overblown imo. the guy could stand to shut up from time to time but his past teammates rave about him, and all his media drama seems to be a product of playing for some...interesting fanbases. plus, remember all that "clubhouse cancer" talk about yunel escobar? i havent heard a peep of drama since he came here) but the nats badly needed bullpen help and rizzo got some. storen's having a great year and what the nats really needed was a solid setup man, but if there were none available that fit the price, why not go big and make your lights out closer your new lights out 8th inning guy.

having said that, the success of the trade hinges entirely on how well storen adjusts back to the 8th inning. if he pitches with a chip on his shoulder and gives the nats two shutdown closers, it's the best move rizzo couldve made this week. if he melts down again, the nats are back to square one with a single reliable reliever and less time to fix it. either way, especially with papelbon signed next year (for not too much money, all things considered), i imagine storen is traded this offseason. he seems like a good dude and watching him mature as a pitcher has been great, but its clear his future isnt with this team. tough break but its a results business and storen's late season past has been too shaky for comfort

Is this what you meant about melting down?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on September 09, 2015, 09:26:41 am
its over
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on September 09, 2015, 11:52:58 am
Is this what you meant about melting down?

Adding Papelbon did not change the way Williams manages his bullpen, which is "unique" to put it mildly.

What I want to know is did the fans stay to watch all of that game?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: brennser on September 09, 2015, 12:42:45 pm
Is this what you meant about melting down?

Adding Papelbon did not change the way Williams manages his bullpen, which is "unique" to put it mildly.

What I want to know is did the fans stay to watch all of that game?

very funny - yes I stayed until the bitter bitter end - disastrous evening
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: imbecile on September 09, 2015, 02:18:21 pm
Is this what you meant about melting down?

Adding Papelbon did not change the way Williams manages his bullpen, which is "unique" to put it mildly.

What I want to know is did the fans stay to watch all of that game?

I left when it was tied.  I'd seen that story enough times to know how it ends.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on September 09, 2015, 02:50:08 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COd4FD8UwAAjlb8.jpg)
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Bombay Chutney on September 09, 2015, 04:59:33 pm
Is this what you meant about melting down?

Adding Papelbon did not change the way Williams manages his bullpen, which is "unique" to put it mildly.

What I want to know is did the fans stay to watch all of that game?

I stayed until the very end.  As disastrous as it was, they came pretty close to pulling it off anyway.  All Escobar needed was a double and they would have won.  They weren't completely out of it until that last pitch.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on September 09, 2015, 05:00:50 pm
Is this what you meant about melting down?

Adding Papelbon did not change the way Williams manages his bullpen, which is "unique" to put it mildly.

What I want to know is did the fans stay to watch all of that game?

I stayed until the very end.  As disastrous as it was, they came pretty close to pulling it off anyway.  All Escobar needed was a double and they would have won.  They weren't completely out of it until that last pitch.

Positive energy!!!!
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on September 09, 2015, 05:02:10 pm



I heard the fans didn't leave early.. but they were Mets fans apparently...
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on September 09, 2015, 05:09:34 pm



I heard the fans didn't leave early.. but they were Mets fans apparently...

(http://i.imgur.com/oEhVvjZ.gif?noredirect)
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on September 09, 2015, 10:41:04 pm
man what a sad series....
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on September 10, 2015, 10:52:57 am
man what a sad series....
Chalk it up to another "DC Curse" heh.... oh man.

It's such a bummer to see another DC team not living up to it's very clear potential. What the fuck. What in the serious fuck. At least the Wizards sort of over achieved this past season.

30 more days until hockey.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on September 10, 2015, 12:31:14 pm
30 more days until hockey.

'Cause that's going to go well.....
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on September 10, 2015, 12:52:22 pm
Speaking of hockey, apparently all of us who bought Gamecenter/Center Ice in the last few years are going to get a discount this year because of a class-action lawsuit.

This is going to be my first year going with Gamecenter instead of Center Ice.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on September 10, 2015, 01:12:27 pm
30 more days until hockey.

'Cause that's going to go well.....
At least hockey has 6 months before it breaks my heart.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on September 12, 2015, 05:39:36 pm
Storen's done.

http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fantasybaseball/update/25299390/nationals-drew-storen-has-fractured-thumb-season-likely-over
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 23, 2015, 05:18:08 pm
Was anyone else at the game Sunday?

The legendary Judy Collins sang God Bless America and my die-hard atheist daughter refused to stand up. Great game too.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on September 23, 2015, 10:18:02 pm
Nice to see Papelbon is still a jerk.  I'll be there tomorrow looking for the sweep.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on September 24, 2015, 10:41:21 am
Nice to see Papelbon is still a jerk.  I'll be there tomorrow looking for the sweep.
::)
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on September 24, 2015, 11:41:35 am
I was at the game yesterday....more Orioles fans than Nats fans
man...what was Papelbon thinking?

I think Matt Williams is going to get the ax....

Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on September 24, 2015, 12:50:37 pm
I was there too. Lots of Orange for sure.

Papelbon is just awful. I'd hate to have him on my team.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: jeffml on September 24, 2015, 03:25:10 pm
Wonder if there will be any retaliation.  I hope not.  O's should take the classy approach.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on September 24, 2015, 03:28:36 pm
Papelbon is just awful.

I know.  It's unbelievable that he missed Machado with the first two pitches.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Relaxer on September 24, 2015, 04:41:58 pm
Even though this has been a disappointing season, it was the season where my youngest son discovered he loves baseball so in the past month, we've been to 8 games. The beauty is that we rarely pay more than $15 per ticket and we're able to bike to the park in about 15 minutes. It was a great year for bonding with him at games. Dude is obsessed with Jayson Werth.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/603/21674927232_193bda00e2_n.jpg)

Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on September 24, 2015, 06:09:33 pm
Wonder if there will be any retaliation.  I hope not.  O's should take the classy approach.

Since Harper already predicted his plunking, I'd throw a ridiculously slow breaking ball for a strike and laugh along with everyone else who were anticipating a high and tight fastball.

Then I'd hit him so f'in hard in the lower back with a fastball and wipe my hand on my pants like it got away from me. 
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on September 25, 2015, 10:05:57 am
Man, talk about some bad luck in that series. Hell of a season series for the Nats and O's. Super fun games to watch as a baseball fan, totally baffling to watch as a Nats fan. I feel bad for Yunel and Bryce because they've been busting their humps all season for this team. Wish we could have had the full line up healthy all year and that when the injured guys came back they could have heated up a bit quicker. Disappointing way to be going out this season though. Could have gained a game or 2 on the Mets. Sheesh.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on September 25, 2015, 01:51:19 pm
3 games for papelbon
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on September 25, 2015, 08:32:57 pm
Man, talk about some bad luck in that series. Hell of a season series for the Nats and O's. Super fun games to watch as a baseball fan, totally baffling to watch as a Nats fan. I feel bad for Yunel and Bryce because they've been busting their humps all season for this team. Wish we could have had the full line up healthy all year and that when the injured guys came back they could have heated up a bit quicker. Disappointing way to be going out this season though. Could have gained a game or 2 on the Mets. Sheesh.

Harper I don't believe got a hit the whole series against the O's....
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on September 27, 2015, 04:45:16 pm
Hahaha hahaha..... My Papelboner is through the roof right now!

Way to go MVP.

Way to go Papelbon.

Way to go GM.

Way to go Williams.

Highly entertaining season...
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on September 27, 2015, 05:09:46 pm
Absolutely slays me....
: Papelbon attacks Harper during heated dugout exchange
http://www.thescore.com/mlb/news/839852
(via http://thesco.re/theScore_app )
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on September 27, 2015, 05:25:09 pm


harper does need to learn to run out ground balls..
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on September 27, 2015, 05:43:06 pm

harper does need to learn to run out ground balls..

Like.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on September 27, 2015, 07:10:56 pm
pop ups too..

I found this on a Yahoo article


"This should only add to the calls for manager Matt Williams to be fired since many believe he lost his team weeks ago. The season can't end soon enough for this team."

Does anybody believe that if this team was managed by Maddon it would be struggling to finish over .500?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 27, 2015, 09:08:01 pm
A year ago I might have spoke differently, but someone give me a chance at spitting on Papelbone.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on September 28, 2015, 01:58:10 am
Does anybody believe that if this team was managed by Maddon it would be struggling to finish over .500?

@CJNitkowski Joe Maddon to me this year, "On a slow day it takes 4.5 secs to run hard to 1B. You don't have 18 secs to give me in 4 at bats everyday?"
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on September 28, 2015, 01:53:39 pm
Papelbon suspended for the season (3 from MLB, 4 from the Nats)....
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: ggw on September 28, 2015, 02:06:29 pm
UPDATE: Papelbon is at home listening to Slayer and Harper is at the salon getting a manicure. (https://twitter.com/paulloduca16/status/648248438472085504?ref_src=twsrc^tfw)
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: K8teebug on September 28, 2015, 02:07:36 pm
Papelbon suspended for the season (3 from MLB, 4 from the Nats)....

Good.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on September 28, 2015, 02:13:46 pm
Papelbon suspended for the season (3 from MLB, 4 from the Nats)....

Good.

at this point what difference  does it make


matt Williams actually frickin' threw him in there yesterday so he could blow another game

worst acquisition EVER....I wonder if I said anything about it at the time

fire Rizzo and williams
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on September 28, 2015, 02:43:25 pm
UPDATE: Papelbon is at home listening to Slayer and Harper is at the salon getting a manicure. (https://twitter.com/paulloduca16/status/648248438472085504?ref_src=twsrc^tfw)

Those replies are amazing.....
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 03, 2015, 09:20:19 pm
Woah, new MLB record for combined K's in a nine inning game.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 03, 2015, 09:29:56 pm
Not to mention another Scherzer no-hitter.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: imbecile on October 05, 2015, 09:48:30 am
Matt Williams is surely getting canned today, right?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on October 05, 2015, 11:32:05 am
Matt Williams is surely getting canned today, right?

Done and done.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on October 06, 2015, 10:47:30 am
Feel bad for him, but he really dug himself into a hole in the 2nd half of the year. Gonna be an interesting and different look for the ball club next year.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 06, 2015, 10:53:23 am
Feel bad for him, but he really dug himself into a hole in the 2nd half of the year. Gonna be an interesting and different look for the ball club next year.

I'm hoping for a no long hair or big beard policy. Looking at you, Mr. Wearwolf.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on October 06, 2015, 01:28:14 pm
I like the long hair and beard. Sincerely wish Espi had kept his INSANE beard last year or his wicked wild west mustache this year. Plus, Ian Desmond with a mustache is hilarious. HILARIOUS! If they aren't going to play tough, they should at least look tough.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 06, 2015, 02:17:24 pm
I like the long hair and beard. Sincerely wish Espi had kept his INSANE beard last year or his wicked wild west mustache this year. Plus, Ian Desmond with a mustache is hilarious. HILARIOUS! If they aren't going to play tough, they should at least look tough.

You call those mustaches "looking tough", I called them "lead float at the Pride parade".

Not that the two descriptions have to be mutually exclusive.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on October 07, 2015, 10:38:17 am
Gay guys can be tough, you sexist.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on October 07, 2015, 10:46:33 am
Gay guys can be tough, you sexist.

Umm, he said. . .

Not that the two descriptions have to be mutually exclusive.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on October 07, 2015, 02:18:28 pm
I called him a sexist. I was kidding.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: martinrob on October 07, 2015, 05:29:08 pm
Worthless needs to go.  Too bad we have him on the hook for two more seasons. 
Rizzo may need to follow Williams.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on October 29, 2015, 07:16:50 am
so its Bud Black...

as the guy commenting on TV said he's great except he hasn't won......

definitely an upgrade on Williams though....

now we'll have two pitching coaches...
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on November 03, 2015, 12:21:32 am
Rizzo is a complete idiot... interviewing over the hill guys like dusty...

Folks haven't figured out by now that teams interview Dusty because MLB requires you to interview minorities?

Apparently someone forgot to tell the Nats management that it's only supposed to be a formality.  You don't actually hire him.....
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on November 03, 2015, 08:05:45 am
They were so sure Bud Black was the man that they offered him a one year contract.  Bush league.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 03, 2015, 08:52:03 am
?I?m happy for Buddy,? Baker said, according to the Chronicle. ?I mean, Buddy played for me. But naturally, I don?t think anyone would have been as good for the job as me. It seemed like a perfect fit. The town. The diversity of the races. People from all over the world.?


What does the fact that there are people from all over the world living in Washington DC make the Nationals and Dusty Baker a "perfect fit"?


The Nationals chose Black on Wednesday, but the terms had to be ironed out. According to another person familiar with the situation, Black was ?deeply offended? by the Nationals? first offer and the talks didn?t get back on track after that. According to a tweet from an account believed to belong to Black?s wife, the initial offer was for one-year, $1.6 million.

Someone please deeply offend me with a $1.6 million contract offer for a year of work.

Dusty and Buddy. They sound more like a child's cat names more than human names.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on November 03, 2015, 09:38:37 am
rethinking it I much prefer Dusty to Bud Black...
you can't compare the experience...


the way it was reported was that they offered him $1 million per year for two years....

Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Yada on November 03, 2015, 09:45:32 am
let's archive this thread until the Spring of 16'.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on November 03, 2015, 09:51:02 am
let's archive this thread until the Spring of 16'.

oh yeah, forget the new manager hiring... its nothing
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on November 03, 2015, 09:51:24 am
Bwahahahaha. Dusty Baker. Good God.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Yada on November 03, 2015, 09:55:06 am
let's archive this thread until the Spring of 16'.

oh yeah, forget the new manager hiring... its nothing

you sir, are correct... it will be yet another disappointing season in the district.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 03, 2015, 09:59:21 am
So they went with the black guy instead of the Black guy.

Dusty is the new Davey. And Buddy won't have buddies in DC after all.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on November 03, 2015, 10:00:23 am
Bwahahahaha. Dusty Baker. Good God.

well we can't all get someone as gifted as brad ausmus...
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on November 03, 2015, 10:06:31 am
Bwahahahaha. Dusty Baker. Good God.

well we can't all get someone as gifted as brad ausmus...
I knew someone would say this, but you do understand Dusty Baker is worse than Brad Ausmus (who is, a bottom 10 manager in MLB) by a factor of like 2 or 3, right?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on November 03, 2015, 11:04:23 am
James Wagner:

The Nationals have been reluctant to pay top dollar for managers in the past. Their standard practice has been two-year deals with options, which Matt Williams, Jim Riggleman and Manny Acta signed. Riggleman made $600,000 his final year as manager in 2011. Even veteran manager Davey Johnson worked under a shorter-term deal. He made $4 million his final year as manager in 2013 after much lower pay before and had a modest consulting year added on for 2014. Williams, fired the day after the 2015 season ended, was due to make $1 million in 2016.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on November 03, 2015, 12:01:01 pm
James Wagner:

The Nationals have been reluctant to pay top dollar for managers in the past. Their standard practice has been two-year deals with options, which Matt Williams, Jim Riggleman and Manny Acta signed. Riggleman made $600,000 his final year as manager in 2011. Even veteran manager Davey Johnson worked under a shorter-term deal. He made $4 million his final year as manager in 2013 after much lower pay before and had a modest consulting year added on for 2014. Williams, fired the day after the 2015 season ended, was due to make $1 million in 2016.

look...I agree they are cheap but there wasn't any great manager out there to be hired....ozzie Guillen?

bud black has a losing record.. I ain't going to pay him much either...

now if girardi had been out there I would have wanted the nats to make a run..

i'm not sure why dusty is considered such a horrible manager... won some division titles, made it to a world series...won manager of the year once... nearly 20 years experience managing in the NL

he's a little past his prime and also has a reputation for mishandling pitchers (blowing out their arms)..that is about all I know

anyways, I would have hired cal ripken jr. but this ain't the worst choice they could have made..

hiring matt Williams a few years ago.. that WAS the worst choice.

Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: ggw on November 03, 2015, 02:19:37 pm
...won manager of the year once...

Three times.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on November 03, 2015, 06:51:21 pm
i'm not sure why dusty is considered such a horrible manager... won some division titles, made it to a world series...won manager of the year once three times... nearly 20 years experience managing in the NL

he's a little past his prime and also has a reputation for mishandling pitchers (blowing out their arms)..that is about all I know

(http://cdn0.sbnation.com/imported_assets/1177276/AP02102603478.jpg)

That time, in the 2002 World Series, where he gave the game ball to the starting pitcher in the 7th inning with a 5-0 lead, thinking he had done enough to win them the World Series?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on November 03, 2015, 07:20:25 pm
i'm not sure why dusty is considered such a horrible manager... won some division titles, made it to a world series...won manager of the year once three times... nearly 20 years experience managing in the NL

he's a little past his prime and also has a reputation for mishandling pitchers (blowing out their arms)..that is about all I know

(http://cdn0.sbnation.com/imported_assets/1177276/AP02102603478.jpg)

That time, in the 2002 World Series, where he gave the game ball to the starting pitcher in the 7th inning with a 5-0 lead, thinking he had done enough to win them the World Series?

yeah well...lots of people do that.. at least they were in the world series...and I hope he has learned..


i'm getting more and more behind this choice....
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on November 04, 2015, 04:33:54 pm
#Nationals have lost a court battle with #Orioles re TV rights fees. Click to read up on the ruling & what it means: http://bit.ly/1iDuQf0

https://twitter.com/mlbtraderumors/status/662002743704338432
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on November 04, 2015, 05:52:05 pm
#Nationals have lost a court battle with #Orioles re TV rights fees. Click to read up on the ruling & what it means: http://bit.ly/1iDuQf0

https://twitter.com/mlbtraderumors/status/662002743704338432

i don't want to know.. it can't be good...
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on November 10, 2015, 02:14:08 pm
 The Nats 2016 calendar  (http://deadspin.com/the-nationals-2016-calendar-has-fenway-park-on-the-cove-1741697086)


And the hits just keep on coming.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on December 08, 2015, 09:17:39 pm
Bwahahahaha. Dusty Baker. Good God.

Day Two of the Winter Meetings and I'm reminded how much I miss guys like Dusty Baker:

ESPN.com's SweetSpot ‏@espn_sweet_spot

Dusty Baker's comments a reminder baseball has a long way to go on domestic violence es.pn/1PWUcTZ
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on December 09, 2015, 02:42:32 pm
Get on this:

The @Nationals are looking for people to fill its Racing Presidents costumes. Here's the job description
https://twitter.com/darrenrovell/status/674658580021276673/photo/1
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: excontradiction on December 09, 2015, 04:33:43 pm
Get on this:

The @Nationals are looking for people to fill its Racing Presidents costumes. Here's the job description
https://twitter.com/darrenrovell/status/674658580021276673/photo/1

oooooooooh!
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on December 10, 2015, 04:56:44 pm
Nationals acquire P Trevor Gott from Anaheim for IF Yunel Escobar

That .314 last season was a blip, right?  I shouldn't expect that....
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on December 10, 2015, 05:16:16 pm
Get on this:

The @Nationals are looking for people to fill its Racing Presidents costumes. Here's the job description
https://twitter.com/darrenrovell/status/674658580021276673/photo/1

oooooooooh!
If we tune in and there's a new President Chipotle mascot, we'll know jaded won.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: excontradiction on December 10, 2015, 06:08:10 pm
President Chipotle would always win cause he's got the mad runs.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: excontradiction on December 10, 2015, 06:08:20 pm
See what I did there?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on December 17, 2015, 11:36:54 pm
2B  Brandon Phillips to the Nats, if he waives his no trade clause.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on December 19, 2015, 02:53:36 pm
2B  Brandon Phillips to the Nats, if he waives his no trade clause.

He would not.  Nats are moving on...

Apparently he asked the Nats to extend his deal beyond the last two years in exchange for waiving his no trade clause.  The Nats wisely declined.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on December 24, 2015, 06:29:39 pm
Nats sign Daniel Murphy to 3 year deal
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on December 26, 2015, 11:18:21 pm
Nats Ryan Zimmerman named in PED Report from AL Jazeera.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on December 28, 2015, 12:34:43 pm
Nats Ryan Zimmerman named in PED Report from AL Jazeera.
Isn't this the 2nd time he's been linked to PEDs? Or am I remembering that incorrectly...
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on December 28, 2015, 02:44:36 pm
the amazing thing about Zim is he is only 31!! But his body is so broken down... unless things change he needs to start considering retirement..
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on December 28, 2015, 04:01:08 pm
Thought he was pretty good after he came back from his wrist a couple seasons ago. He got that cortisone shot and went nuts. Thought moving to first base was good for him. You could definitely see he was struggling at 3rd though. Line-up is going to look a wee bit different this year.

Also, Ian Desmond still hasn't been signed? Dang. I'm pretty surprised by that.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on January 08, 2016, 07:26:34 pm
The Marlins experiment is fascinating to me.  I think Jennings fails miserably, but don't confuse that with me hoping he succeeds.  I just don't think he will...

Nats Hire Marlins Ex-Manager/GM Jennings to Help Rizzo (http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/14531901/washington-nationals-hire-ex-miami-marlins-manager-gm-dan-jennings-help-mike-rizzo)

This probably goes better for Jennings.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on January 08, 2016, 07:41:04 pm
Also, Ian Desmond still hasn't been signed? Dang. I'm pretty surprised by that.

He's unwilling to move from Shortstop, where his numbers are terrible defensively.  So let's see, he  doesn't walk, is terrible at the little things at the plate, is poor defensively (albeit at a position that is currently coveted so he gets a little help there) yet is unwilling to change positions, and he's tagged with a Qualifying Offer after a horrendous season.

Sounds like San Diego's kind of guy to me!  At least they won't lose a first round draft pick.

Just be happy he rejected the Nats 7-year $107m offer....
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on January 08, 2016, 11:29:48 pm
P Drew Storen to Blue Jays for OF Ben Revere
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on January 08, 2016, 11:31:06 pm
P Drew Storen to Blue Jays for OF Ben Revere

awesome! I dont' even know who ben revere is ... did we run papelbon out yet or he has that no trade clause?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on January 08, 2016, 11:32:10 pm
The Marlins experiment is fascinating to me.  I think Jennings fails miserably, but don't confuse that with me hoping he succeeds.  I just don't think he will...

Nats Hire Marlins Ex-Manager/GM Jennings to Help Rizzo (http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/14531901/washington-nationals-hire-ex-miami-marlins-manager-gm-dan-jennings-help-mike-rizzo)

This probably goes better for Jennings.

Rizzo should have been shitcanned along with his drinking buddy..but yeah this is sort of like saying "we dont' really trust your judgment anymore so we're hiring this guy to keep an eye on you and if you fuck up some more he's going to replace you....you're on the very short leash"
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on January 10, 2016, 09:58:20 pm
I had an enjoyable drunken text conversation with Hoya about "Never Trade with Rizzo" after this deal and I agree, he does well in trades.

But his FA deals have been awful.  Maybe this will help....
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on January 11, 2016, 04:08:22 pm
did we run papelbon out yet or he has that no trade clause?

"We see Papelbon as being one of our late-inning relievers. He's been very effective at it his entire career, including last year, except for the last portion of the season," Rizzo said. "This guy's a quality reliever, quality closer. ... He knows how to win. He brings a swagger to the bullpen. And he's a guy that we'll rely on to pitch late innings, leverage innings."
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on January 14, 2016, 04:13:05 pm
Also, Ian Desmond still hasn't been signed? Dang. I'm pretty surprised by that.
Sounds like San Diego's kind of guy to me!  At least they won't lose a first round draft pick.

San Diego signed Alexei Ramirez to a one year deal.  No idea where Desmond lands now....
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on January 22, 2016, 10:07:04 pm
Hey Orioles, blow me.

https://www.yahoo.com/movies/two-mlb-teams-locked-escalating-war-other-over-214222615.html
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on January 22, 2016, 10:07:34 pm
I know a lot of people will disagree but I hope the Nats go out and get Cespedes....
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on January 23, 2016, 09:22:12 am
well we tried...
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on January 23, 2016, 01:40:26 pm
harshosity

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/angels-and-nationals-biggest-losers-in-yoenis-cespedes--decision-064751571.html
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on January 24, 2016, 04:58:48 pm
Interesting that he would include Anaheim.  They weren't even in the running as they can't afford to sign anyone so long as Josh Hamilton is on the books.  They'll have to trade a pitcher to get an outfielder.

I agree on the Nats though - I haven't quite wrapped my head around these opt-out deals that are becoming so popular.  A streaky player like Cespedes, who has an injury history, should have taken the 5 years guaranteed from the Nats.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on January 24, 2016, 08:25:39 pm
Seems to me an opt-out only benefits the player who wants the long term deal in the first place.  What's in it for the team?   
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on January 26, 2016, 02:40:23 am
Nationals Have to Wonder: Does anyone want to play in DC? (http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-nationals/post/_/id/558/nationals-have-to-wonder-does-anyone-want-to-play-in-d-c)
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on January 26, 2016, 12:20:53 pm
Nationals Have to Wonder: Does anyone want to play in DC? (http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-nationals/post/_/id/558/nationals-have-to-wonder-does-anyone-want-to-play-in-d-c)
Yeesh. One year removed from being a perennial WS favorite. I guess that's what happens when the whole frickin team goes cold or gets injured. I heard something on the radio that had Max Scherzer's first no hitter last year and remembering the absolutely TEAR that he was on before the All Star break and then him kind of falling back to Earth. Crazy how streaky the team became.

At least we have hockey! For now... eventually.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on January 26, 2016, 12:30:40 pm
who cares.. none of the free agents have been that great.. sure I wanted Cespedes but would he have been worth the commitment?.. we can't tell that..he also would have added to the dickhead quotient in the clubhouse which is already HUGE given harper and papelbon...

I'm fine keeping my money in my pockets if nobody wants it... and waiting for a quality free agent/better free agent market... we're stocked pitching wise and all we need are some bats... if there aren't great bats to be had what is the problem?

the bigger concern is in-house: can Rendon come back and be a regular contributor at year before last level? is there any hope of resigning Harper?

honestly, I prefer to fly under the radar a bit and let the Mets handle the pressure.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on January 26, 2016, 01:02:59 pm
I just hate seeing people slobber over the Mets or, previously, the Barves. I despise those 2 teams. It seemed as if everyone was jizzing their pants over the Mets last year.

On the Nats side, I'm VERY interested to see what happens this year. Can't imagine missing another post season would bode well for the remaining free agents or signing anyone else here, especially under a new skipper. Can't see them going into a "rebuild" phase so soon. They have a TON of youth in the pipeline though. Very interesting season ahead...
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on January 26, 2016, 01:16:19 pm
Yeesh. One year removed from being a perennial WS favorite.
(http://futureisfiction.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/thatssotrue_3749_1331166173.gif)
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on January 26, 2016, 01:17:24 pm
sure I wanted Cespedes but would he have been worth the commitment?.. we can't tell that..he also would have added to the dickhead quotient in the clubhouse which is already HUGE given harper and papelbon...
I don't think he's a dickhead. And unless I missed it, didn't he just sign for 3 years?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on January 26, 2016, 01:24:08 pm
sure I wanted Cespedes but would he have been worth the commitment?.. we can't tell that..he also would have added to the dickhead quotient in the clubhouse which is already HUGE given harper and papelbon...
I don't think he's a dickhead. And unless I missed it, didn't he just sign for 3 years?

he signed for three years with a one year opt out but the contract he turned down from the Nats- REPORTEDLY- was FIVE years with an opt out..and  $110 million (sizable amount deferred)... that is what it was taking and it wasn't even enough...

Now I am not saying I know for a fact the Nats would not have been better off with Cespedes but I am OK keeping the money... there's got to be better free agents coming down the pike... now if Cespedes goes all triple crown this year, well.... but I doubt that..
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on January 26, 2016, 01:26:34 pm
Dickhead



http://www.redsoxlife.com/2014/10/whats-wrong-with-cespedes-and-why.html
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on January 26, 2016, 02:31:42 pm
Well, there was Cespedes....

And:

Darren O'Day
Ben Zobrist
Jason Heyward
Mike Leake
Aroldis Chapman (though, I can give the Nats a pass on this one)

And not to mention Brandon Phillips and whatever happened with the Bud Black negotiations....
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on January 26, 2016, 02:33:37 pm
Dickhead



http://www.redsoxlife.com/2014/10/whats-wrong-with-cespedes-and-why.html
Tiger fans/players/coaches loved him. Ditto for Mets. Ditto (mostly) for Oakland. Only place he didn't seem to fit in was the Sox. Have you met Bostonians? Being thought a dickhead (or some other unsavory title) by those people is basically the greatest testimony one can have to their character.

I'm calling sour grapes on you.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on January 26, 2016, 02:53:25 pm
Well, there was Cespedes....

And:

Darren O'Day
Ben Zobrist
Jason Heyward
Mike Leake
Aroldis Chapman (though, I can give the Nats a pass on this one)

And not to mention Brandon Phillips and whatever happened with the Bud Black negotiations....

o'day took more money in a familiar clubhouse

zobrist took a bit less for a familiar manager and more readymade contender. the giants offer was similar to the nats and was also turned down

heyward took a lot more money via the opt out factor, as well as more certainty about where hed play.

rizzo would have been crucified if hed landed chapman

leake was there for the taking. definitely a miss for the nats

phillips wanted an extension if he was going to uproot and leave his home. rizzo wouldnt budge, and shouldnt have.
 
the bud black situation was mishandled by all involved (BB, rizzo, media) and i dont think anyone came out looking good, but black clearlywanted the job so the "nobody wants to play in dc" hypothesis doesnt hold up there

cespedes will liekly earn more money over the 5 year period via his mets deal, opt out or not, and his next free agent contract. its also a familiar clubhouse and less potential drama regarding where hed play and who hed be displacing

not seeing how those are all supposed to reflect poorly on the nats
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on January 26, 2016, 03:04:55 pm
Dickhead



http://www.redsoxlife.com/2014/10/whats-wrong-with-cespedes-and-why.html
Tiger fans/players/coaches loved him. Ditto for Mets. Ditto (mostly) for Oakland. Only place he didn't seem to fit in was the Sox. Have you met Bostonians? Being thought a dickhead (or some other unsavory title) by those people is basically the greatest testimony one can have to their character.

I'm calling sour grapes on you.

no.. if I felt bad about Cespedes not coming to the Nats I would think it and say it... I really don't... time may prove me wrong but at this point.. no...

I mean I been arguing the Nats need more bats for a long time.. I was saying it 2 years ago..maybe 3.. but I don't see Cespedes as that big a bat.. maybe he'll prove me wrong.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on January 26, 2016, 11:35:03 pm
I stand corrected.  Bronson Arroyo will play in DC.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on January 27, 2016, 12:20:43 am
I stand corrected.  Bronson Arroyo will play in DC.

I hate it when you're wrong.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on February 03, 2016, 12:09:14 pm
 Citing MASN dispute, the Nats tried to defer compensation, and free agents went elsewhere  (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2016/02/02/citing-masn-dispute-the-nats-tried-to-defer-compensation-and-free-agents-went-elsewhere/)
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on February 03, 2016, 12:24:01 pm
Citing MASN dispute, the Nats tried to defer compensation, and free agents went elsewhere  (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2016/02/02/citing-masn-dispute-the-nats-tried-to-defer-compensation-and-free-agents-went-elsewhere/)

No no  no.  Didn't you see gaaaaaaaaah's comment?  It's a blessing!  Probably even by design.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on February 03, 2016, 01:25:47 pm
i didnt say it was a blessing at all, just that there are obvious reasons beyond this silly clubhouse narrative as to why the nats kept whiffing. that article seems to confirm it

the masn saga is way over my head so i largely stay out of it, but im sure it is affecting payroll to some extent. how could it not.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: jeffml on February 03, 2016, 01:56:28 pm
O's deferred some salary for Chris Davis contract, so don't know if that is sole reason players went elsewhere.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on February 12, 2016, 02:13:08 am
Have fun.....

MLB Rumors: 2015 NL MVP & Nats OF Bryce Harper Responds to Comments of Potential $400M Contract ? 'Don't sell me short'
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on February 12, 2016, 09:03:30 am
well at some price point the Nats will balk at resigning Harper.... and that is ok..
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on February 15, 2016, 08:18:07 pm
This hasn't been talked about enough.  People keep focusing on future free agent deals, like Strasburg (who will test the free agent market and not sign an extension, and I'm willing to bet a lot on that), but Stras has two more years of arbitration left.

BORAS: STRASBURG WILL GO TO FREE AGENCY

Agent Scott Boras told Fox Sports that Stephen Strasburg and the Nationals likely won't talk a contract extension this season. Strasburg recently inked a one-year deal with the Nationals for 2016.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on April 03, 2016, 08:01:21 am
What's New at Nationals Park

   

Concessions and Menu Items
Pitch Your Product culinary contest winners, Haute Dogs & Fries and Pinch Dumplings, are open for business at Nationals Park.
Haute Dogs & Fries in Section 105 offers hot-off-the-grill gourmet hot dogs and hand-cut french fries. Their franks are made with local products and are served on a New England-style bun with fresh condiments.
Pinch Dumplings will offer a variety of locally-sourced, hand-made Chinese dumplings, including pork, beef and vegetarian options. Pinch Dumplings will be available in Section 302.
A variety of new food options, including two Mike Isabella concepts, will be available at newly renovated concession stands on the Gallery Level and in the Norfolk Southern Club.

   

Mike Isabella's Kapnos at the Park will feature a menu consisting of Greek-inspired plates such as gyros, fried Greek potatoes, tzatziki and hummus, while Mike Isabella's Catchfly is a new Southern-style concept that will feature barbecue ribs, popcorn chicken, a special hot chicken sandwich and sides including fried pickles and banana pudding. Both stands will be located in Section 301.
On Rye will serve Jewish-style deli sandwiches, such as the Reuben, in addition to their signature babka ice cream sandwiches at their location in the Norfolk Southern Club in Section 210.

Beginning this season, Anheuser-Busch will be the new Official Beer Partner of the Washington Nationals.
Fans will be able to enjoy new beer options including Budweiser, Bud Light, Goose Island, Shock Top, Stella and Blue Point Toasted Lager. Local craft beers and other brands will still be available throughout the park.
New ballpark locations include the Budweiser Brew House (formerly Red Porch), Bud Light Loft (formerly Red Loft), Budweiser Terrace (formerly the Scoreboard Walk), the Goose Island Pub (Section 113) and the Shock Top Bar (Section 205). The new Lime-A-Rita Lookout bar will join other new food and beverage options on the Gallery Level.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on April 04, 2016, 08:10:34 pm
nice win by Nats!

welcome back baseball!
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on April 04, 2016, 09:14:52 pm
welcome back baseball!

Couldn't even go one day.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfPY_vwWQAE7Xtv.jpg)

That's a clown hat, bro.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on April 28, 2016, 01:07:12 pm
After tonight, Spring Training will finally be over for the Nats.

Looking forward to seeing what this team is really all about.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 29, 2016, 03:12:48 pm
What's the deal with ticket prices? Before this year I've always found decent seats for super cheap. Now the  decent seats aren't cheap, only the crap ones are.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on April 29, 2016, 03:34:47 pm
What's the deal with ticket prices? Before this year I've always found decent seats for super cheap. Now the  decent seats aren't cheap, only the crap ones are.
Max Scherzer
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on April 29, 2016, 03:52:36 pm
What's the deal with ticket prices? Before this year I've always found decent seats for super cheap. Now the  decent seats aren't cheap, only the crap ones are.

i feel like this has been changing for a while now... baltimore is a much better deal and experience....


but i think it may have more to do with bryce harper than scherzer.... people really want to see bryce...

there is a differnece between the secondary and primary markets.. i'm talking about the secondary market... if cheap tickets are no longer easy to find it stands to reason people want them more.. the only reason i can think of is that people want to see the MVP etc

if you're talking about the primary market then i guess the reason would be the nats raised prices...
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 29, 2016, 04:07:11 pm
What's the deal with ticket prices? Before this year I've always found decent seats for super cheap. Now the  decent seats aren't cheap, only the crap ones are.

i feel like this has been changing for a while now... baltimore is a much better deal and experience....


but i think it may have more to do with bryce harper than scherzer.... people really want to see bryce...

there is a differnece between the secondary and primary markets.. i'm talking about the secondary market... if cheap tickets are no longer easy to find it stands to reason people want them more.. the only reason i can think of is that people want to see the MVP etc

if you're talking about the primary market then i guess the reason would be the nats raised prices...

Sorry, I wasn't clear. I was talking 100% about the secondary market (Seatgeek, Stubhub). Through last year, I always found tickets in the $9-$18 range in the area around Section 203. Now this year that area looks to be in the $40 range.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on April 29, 2016, 04:30:47 pm
On this date in 2015:  Washington: 9-13

On this date in 2016: 14-7

I can't imagine why people would want to pay more....
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on April 29, 2016, 04:58:18 pm
i kind of think bryce winning the mvp is a big part of getting people out to the games...bigger than the fact they are off to a hot start....

maybe space you remember how easy it was to get tickets el cheapo when they were doing great in previous years.. if it was a lot easier then i think then the winning record this year would not be a great explanation


also, they may be developing more of a fan base.. people start to make plans to see the nats more etc..but that wouldn't explain a sudden jump


maybe the fact its early in the season might explain it.. it may be tougher right now cause they haven't had that many home games yet?





Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Space Freely on April 29, 2016, 05:11:21 pm
i kind of think bryce winning the mvp is a big part of getting people out to the games...bigger than the fact they are off to a hot start....

maybe space you remember how easy it was to get tickets el cheapo when they were doing great in previous years.. if it was a lot easier then i think then the winning record this year would not be a great explanation


also, they may be developing more of a fan base.. people start to make plans to see the nats more etc..but that wouldn't explain a sudden jump


maybe the fact its early in the season might explain it.. it may be tougher right now cause they haven't had that many home games yet?







I think it goes beyond the record (though I'm not denying that could play some role), all of your suggestions seem feasible.

It also could be just a smaller amount of tickets available in the secondary markets this year, and that's keeping the prices high...in the sections I'm looking at, there are just very few actual tickets available compared to previous years...

Guess I'll be in no rush to buy...I am going to my first Orioles game in several years next weekend.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on May 02, 2016, 10:26:57 am
You can get decent deals through the Nats site. Just look up Nationals coupon codes and just plug them in. I've brought 80 dollars tickets down to 40 or so by using random coupon codes. They also knock the cheap seats down a good bit too.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: brennser on May 02, 2016, 10:51:44 am
After tonight, Spring Training will finally be over for the Nats.

Looking forward to seeing what this team is really all about.

off to a decent start
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on May 02, 2016, 11:36:28 am
off to a decent start

Particularly impressive given that Harper didn't have a hit the entire series, yet they still put up almost 6 runs a game.   Fantastic pitching all weekend.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on May 09, 2016, 12:37:00 pm
By game 3, not switching Murphy and Zim was questionable, but defensible.

By game 4 it was downright stubborn Dusty Baker.

Get ready for that all season...
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on May 09, 2016, 01:48:07 pm
Against the best team in baseball though. Hard lesson to learn. Insane that Zim couldn't do dick. He left 14 runners stranded YESTERDAY.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on May 09, 2016, 10:50:20 pm
If these rumors of a Strasburg Extension are true, that's a huge sign for the Nat's future. It means theres at least a chance Harper might no go to Free Agency...
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on May 10, 2016, 01:53:15 pm
7 years for $175 million  :o
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on May 10, 2016, 05:00:30 pm
7 years for $175 million  :o

Could be a bargain, but I'm really waiting for the annual values.  I'm eager to see how much they are spending in 2019 with $42m committed to Scherzer and $18m to Zimmerman.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on May 10, 2016, 05:06:28 pm
Strasburg?s seven-year, $175-million deal, agreed to on Monday and to be announced Tuesday at a news conference at Nationals Park, will actually be paid out over 14 years, according to a person with direct knowledge of the contract. Strasburg will receive $70 million, with no interest, after the deal expires in 2023.

The breakdown: Strasburg will receive $15 million annually from 2017-23, and then $10 million per year from 2024-30. This helps the Nationals in two ways: keeping payroll lower in the near term, and also lowering the actual value of the entire package. The Nationals, the person said, figure the deal is actually akin to about $162 million if it were paid out only over the seven-year life of the contract.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on May 10, 2016, 05:20:55 pm
Angels acquire Brendan Ryan from the Nats.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on May 10, 2016, 10:56:58 pm
I am really surprised by this contract for Stras..been thinking about it... its a huge gamble on a guy that has had a lot of issues being a workhorse/reliable starter...and at times has not been close to dominant

If I'd have to pick between Stras and Jordan Zimmerman I would have picked JZim any day.... the Nats must know something I don't..

I would not have made this decision
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on May 11, 2016, 05:55:42 pm
Harper gets one game suspension.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on May 12, 2016, 09:46:21 am
Max Scherzer is a mad man. Good to see him have that solid off of a game after a shaky start to his season.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on June 03, 2016, 05:09:01 pm
Zimm is about to get Pipp'd by Turner.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on June 03, 2016, 07:36:57 pm
that doesnt make any sense.

its espinosa or stephen drew whose job is at stake. dannys glove isnt valuable enough to justify him in the lineup instead of zimmerman
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on June 03, 2016, 07:46:12 pm
Espinosa is just not good enough to be an everyday player..I think this is his last season with the team..
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on June 03, 2016, 07:51:21 pm
i think the dream has been for him to become a super utility bench guy, but that hasnt worked out and likely never will

if turners the real deal in this zimmerman paternity leave tryout i wouldnt be surprised to see espinosa moved at the deadline. switch hitting power with speed and a good glove off the bench would be a great tool, hes just given no indication that he can be an everyday presence, or even a reliable sub
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 04, 2016, 06:55:54 pm
Bryce now under .240. How long before we go back to saying he's overrated?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on June 04, 2016, 08:06:27 pm
Bryce now under .240. How long before we go back to saying he's overrated?


I don't think I'll ever say that again as he shut my piehole pretty good last year...
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on June 20, 2016, 02:34:46 pm
Bryce now under .240. How long before we go back to saying he's overrated?

I never stopped. 
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on June 20, 2016, 02:35:11 pm
I am stoked for tonight's game.  Plus I get Vinny.

Edit: Stupid Strasburg ruined my night.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on June 23, 2016, 10:05:43 am
Michael Taylor - as if going 0-5 with 5 K's wasn't enough.  Wow.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 26, 2016, 07:58:30 am
Eight out of the nine starters for the O's last night have a higher batting average than Bryce Harper and the one who doesn't has more home runs then Bryce.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on June 26, 2016, 08:38:12 am
Bryce is going to make you look like a fool....


I'm going to the game tomorrow....
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on June 28, 2016, 11:19:37 am
true to my word I went


i got a werth with a dog figurine! free!


the game was a hit-fest.. never seen so many hits without a home run.. we stayed for about 29 of them....

syndergaard was way off... i thoguht the mets catcher was the problem in allowing so many steals but maybe its golden locks? anyways like six steals almost not contested

wonderboy harper seems to be coming around....

ben not paul revere had 4 hits... espinosa 3 hits

my friend- the season ticketholder- thinks ryan zim is a "black hole" and they need to do something about that.... i don't know what to say to that...

nice piece of hittin at one point by rendon.......
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on June 28, 2016, 06:22:41 pm
Better hope this Gio isn't as bad as the other Gio.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on July 01, 2016, 08:04:13 am
Espinosa en fuego! 7 ribbies...2 ding dongs
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Bombay Chutney on July 01, 2016, 09:43:00 am
Espinosa en fuego! 7 ribbies...2 ding dongs

One from each side of the plate - and a grand slam!
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on July 03, 2016, 05:42:10 pm
more!
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on July 06, 2016, 03:32:08 pm
I finally agree with something he said!

Bryce Harper on Home Run Derby: 'I just don't care for it' (http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-nationals/post/_/id/1482/bryce-harper-on-home-run-derby-i-just-dont-care-for-it)
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on July 06, 2016, 03:59:55 pm
I finally agree with something he said!

Bryce Harper on Home Run Derby: 'I just don't care for it' (http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-nationals/post/_/id/1482/bryce-harper-on-home-run-derby-i-just-dont-care-for-it)

yeah.. sucks to have to entertain the fans...

the fans love the derby cause they love home runs.. even fake ones...
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on July 06, 2016, 04:19:22 pm
Since when does .258 get you in the all-star game?  17 homers, yeah.  But even Espinosa has more.

I guess he's in 'cause he's Bryce Harper.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on July 06, 2016, 05:37:13 pm
Since when does .258 get you in the all-star game?  17 homers, yeah.  But even Espinosa has more.

I guess he's in 'cause he's Bryce Harper.

more like cause he's MVP from last season?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on July 06, 2016, 05:39:02 pm
Obvy it's because of his defense....
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on July 11, 2016, 10:15:03 pm
@danharen: In the home run derby, you're not allowed to throw a pitch until the previous ball lands..Same rule applied to me the last 4 years I pitched
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on July 12, 2016, 03:48:16 pm
Since when does .258 get you in the all-star game?  17 homers, yeah.  But even Espinosa has more.

I guess he's in 'cause he's Bryce Harper.

Does Bryce Harper Deserve to be an All-Star? (http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-nationals/post/_/id/1524/does-bryce-harper-deserve-to-be-an-all-star)

tl:dr - only because he's popular with fans.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on July 12, 2016, 04:08:07 pm
these who deserves to be in or out posts / articles / conversations are so stupid...

whoever the fans vote for "deserves" to be in...that's just the nature of the all star game.. its not based on who has the best stats or who is the best player.. just who gets the most votes.. its a popularity contest.. if it was based on actual performance you could have some nice computer program pick all the players....

so many players get elected to the all star game year after year who don't deserve it.. Jeter his last few times for example was pitiful.


I think Harper's stats look pretty solid and considering he is the reigning MVP and is one of the leaders on one of the best teams... I think his selection is a no brainer... I say that as  a Bryce Harper hater...
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 12, 2016, 04:19:21 pm
Harper's MLB rankings:

WAR: 75th
Home Runs: 19th
RBI: 38th
Average: 114th
Slugging: 50th
OBP: 9th


Solid? Sure. He's been worth the 5 million he's getting paid (not really, but relative to other player salaries). An All-Star? Nah.

Give his spot to Jake Lamb.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on July 12, 2016, 04:54:22 pm
Harper's MLB rankings:

WAR: 75th
Home Runs: 19th
RBI: 38th
Average: 114th
Slugging: 50th
OBP: 9th


Solid? Sure. He's been worth the 5 million he's getting paid (not really, but relative to other player salaries). An All-Star? Nah.

Give his spot to Jake Lamb.



its a popularity contest.  once you accept that... and it is hard.. its all good.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 26, 2016, 10:31:22 pm
wow time for a new closer...
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on July 26, 2016, 10:32:58 pm
definitely... he did the same thing this weekend...

PAPELBON PAPELON!
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 26, 2016, 10:43:14 pm
Harper's MLB rankings:

WAR: 181st
Home Runs: 19th
RBI: 38th
Average: 114th
Slugging: 50th
OBP: 9th


Solid? Sure. He's been worth the 5 million he's getting paid (not really, but relative to other player salaries). An All-Star? Nah.

Give his spot to Jake Lamb.

updated:


WAR: 75th
Home Runs: 25th
RBI: 48th
Average: 141st
Slugging: 66th
OBP: 15th


Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on July 26, 2016, 10:45:17 pm
I'm torn.. I want the Nats to win but I loathe Harper... I can't wait til the Yankees take him and I can loathe him without problems..
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on July 26, 2016, 10:57:11 pm
man Dusty was in shock after the game...
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on July 27, 2016, 12:52:12 pm
Always better that it happens before the trade deadline and not after.

But Dusty being surprised at him managing pitchers not working out is something Nats fans should get used to.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on July 30, 2016, 02:32:25 pm
http://deadspin.com/nationals-turn-first-3-3-5-triple-play-in-history-1784576615

This highlight is amusing for a few seconds.

But what's much better is the comments section that systematically proves Dusty Baker is a lying piece of shit. This is real journalism, America.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on July 30, 2016, 06:15:17 pm
I think I saw they got the Pirates reliever
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on July 31, 2016, 03:04:54 pm
http://deadspin.com/nationals-turn-first-3-3-5-triple-play-in-history-1784576615

This highlight is amusing for a few seconds.

But what's much better is the comments section that systematically proves Dusty Baker is a lying piece of shit. This is real journalism, America.

Even more impressive was that Zimm was able to throw the ball across the diamond.  Of course he pulled the guy off the base, but there was plenty of time to recover.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on July 31, 2016, 09:30:15 pm
Even more impressive was that Zimm was able to throw the ball across the diamond.  Of course he pulled the guy off the base, but there was plenty of time to recover.

Wonder if it was as painful for him as it was for us to witness it.  My wife can throw a softball better than that. 
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on August 13, 2016, 10:41:18 am
The Papelboner requested his release this morning.

Gotta love him.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on August 13, 2016, 11:15:53 am

Gotta love him.

I hate him. I would have never gone out to get him... Good riddance.. now if we can just get rid of the other dickhead in the clubhouse...
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Space Freely on August 13, 2016, 11:20:41 am

Gotta love him.

I hate him. I would have never gone out to get him... Good riddance.. now if we can just get rid of the other dickhead in the clubhouse...

Who dat?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on August 15, 2016, 11:08:56 am

Gotta love him.

I hate him. I would have never gone out to get him... Good riddance.. now if we can just get rid of the other dickhead in the clubhouse...

Who dat?
Probably Harper.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on August 24, 2016, 10:14:00 pm
geesus..total collapse of the Nats!
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 27, 2016, 06:24:43 pm
Adios, Ramos.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on September 27, 2016, 06:53:54 pm
its that time of year.. you know.. when it, counts...collapse.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on September 28, 2016, 03:28:51 pm
No Stras, no Ramos, Murphy still out, and Harper still out. 1 week til the Dodgers.... Oh, boy.

Although now they can fall on the crutch of "injuries" as opposed to not playing small ball. But, we'll see.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on September 28, 2016, 09:22:10 pm
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/nationals-journal/wp/2016/09/28/when-were-the-nationals-best-position-by-position-we-debate-you-vote/
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on October 07, 2016, 09:01:42 am
http://deadspin.com/d-c-city-council-owns-self-1787514637
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on October 07, 2016, 09:04:40 am
http://deadspin.com/d-c-city-council-owns-self-1787514637

I liked what the city did building the stadium cause I wanted DC to have a team.. but I would never make the argument it was a good use of taxpayer money....
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on October 11, 2016, 12:51:39 pm
Anyone think Nats wrap this up tonight?

Was falling asleep during the game yesterday. What a drag. Thank god the bats woke up at the end there. Was worried they'd sit on those 4 runs and lose.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Bags on October 11, 2016, 01:08:08 pm
Yeah, 4.5 hour nine inning games is too much.  Holy hell, I hope they wrap it up tonight.  I don't want to go Thursday, though I have tickets.  Have a very cool work dinner I'd miss, and....it may be 4.5 hours.....
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 11, 2016, 01:14:18 pm
Yeah, 4.5 hour nine inning games is too much.  Holy hell, I hope they wrap it up tonight.  I don't want to go Thursday, though I have tickets.  Have a very cool work dinner I'd miss, and....it may be 4.5 hours.....

If Sting's wife is able to take him for that long, anybody should be able to endure a long playoff game.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: challenged on October 11, 2016, 01:30:08 pm
Yeah, 4.5 hour nine inning games is too much.  Holy hell, I hope they wrap it up tonight.  I don't want to go Thursday, though I have tickets.  Have a very cool work dinner I'd miss, and....it may be 4.5 hours.....

If Sting's wife is able to take him for that long, anybody should be able to endure a long playoff game.

Not sure the analogy is apt, but I too hope that the Nats win today, and then I won't need to go on Thursday.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 11, 2016, 09:36:33 pm
Well you poor schmucks are going to have to suck it up and go Thursday. Unless anyone wants to give me their ticket.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on October 12, 2016, 10:23:35 am
Not sure I'll be able to handle the stress of Thursday. And Caps kicking off the season in Pittsburgh? Uy. Could be the opposite of how good DC sports were to us on Sunday... I have faith in Mad Max!
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Yada on October 13, 2016, 08:49:23 am
FYI, tickets available for all games* including tonight.

*assuming they win tonight
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on October 13, 2016, 11:12:10 am
Found SRO for less than $60, I feel like that isn't bad considering it's an elimination mound with the ace on the mound.

All sorts of nervous, I'm having a hard time seeing Max lose to the Dodgers twice in a series.... But, who knows. The narrative is right up DC sports alley.... Dodgers overcome, blah blah, [X] DC sports team couldn't overcome blah blah.

I have faith!!
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Yada on October 13, 2016, 11:23:17 am
Found SRO for less than $60, I feel like that isn't bad considering it's an elimination mound with the ace on the mound.

All sorts of nervous, I'm having a hard time seeing Max lose to the Dodgers twice in a series.... But, who knows. The narrative is right up DC sports alley.... Dodgers overcome, blah blah, [X] DC sports team couldn't overcome blah blah.

I have faith!!

I just got seats in the 400 level for $58 a ticket.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on October 13, 2016, 11:28:49 am
well.. correct me if I 'm wrong but Max's last two starts have been disastrous..
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: challenged on October 13, 2016, 12:03:46 pm
Found SRO for less than $60, I feel like that isn't bad considering it's an elimination mound with the ace on the mound.

All sorts of nervous, I'm having a hard time seeing Max lose to the Dodgers twice in a series.... But, who knows. The narrative is right up DC sports alley.... Dodgers overcome, blah blah, [X] DC sports team couldn't overcome blah blah.

I have faith!!

I predict a long and very stressful night; I will be there...and I remember the last game 5 at Nats Park
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on October 13, 2016, 03:20:13 pm
well.. correct me if I 'm wrong but Max's last two starts have been disastrous..
Alright, everyone has their games, but who else are you throwing out there?

I don't think he'll have 3 'disasters' in a row to end the season. Even IF that's how DC sports teams usually go out. I have faith. I think with him and the bullpen, Daniel Murphy and Anthony Rendon might just drag them into the NLCS themselves. Hopefully Trea wakes up, Werth and Zim keep playing the same, and Bryce comes through in a big spot.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on October 13, 2016, 06:36:25 pm
There is no doubt that you start Scherzer.  And anybody who says anything differently, would probably pitch to Daniel Murphy with first base open.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on October 13, 2016, 06:44:25 pm
^Our forum's very own Captain Obvious....
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on October 13, 2016, 08:18:56 pm
What's the story with the Marlins douche who feels the need to be in the front row for every important
game?   I know he's rich and has nothing going on in his life but enough already.  Or put on a rainbow wig or something.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on October 13, 2016, 10:04:49 pm
What's the story with the Marlins douche who feels the need to be in the front row for every important
game?   I know he's rich and has nothing going on in his life but enough already.  Or put on a rainbow wig or something.

yes.. what is the story..


so far so good.. a different Max from the last two starts.. back to being mucho hombre
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on October 13, 2016, 11:12:39 pm
Justin Turner went to Cal State Fullerton
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on October 13, 2016, 11:15:42 pm
What's the story with the Marlins douche who feels the need to be in the front row for every important
game?   I know he's rich and has nothing going on in his life but enough already.  Or put on a rainbow wig or something.

Yep, lawyer from FL who saved up a ton of money to have a family some day. It didn't work out so now he spends his life savings on having the best seats at the best sporting events.

I love him.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marlins_Man?wprov=sfla1
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on October 13, 2016, 11:25:09 pm
uh look-a-here we got a ballgame...
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 13, 2016, 11:41:59 pm
That's the sounds of 12,000 people running for the last Metro train...
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on October 13, 2016, 11:49:34 pm
^huh?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 14, 2016, 12:02:40 am
^huh?

http://www.si.com/mlb/2016/10/13/washington-nationals-los-angeles-dodgers-nlds-game-5-metro
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on October 14, 2016, 12:11:21 am
^huh?

http://www.si.com/mlb/2016/10/13/washington-nationals-los-angeles-dodgers-nlds-game-5-metro

huh?

 Looks packed to me...except for the rich seats and those guys often watch from inside...

Listen, we know DC fans can suck but lets not make shit up... I seriously doubt anyone has left a one run series deciding game 5 cause of metro!
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on October 14, 2016, 12:30:21 am
t e n s e
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on October 14, 2016, 12:41:29 am
v

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t e n s e
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on October 14, 2016, 12:42:18 am
fuck me
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on October 14, 2016, 12:42:36 am
/
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on October 14, 2016, 12:46:54 am
What a crazy fucking game plan by Dave Roberts. 
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on October 14, 2016, 12:54:54 am
fuckin' dave roberts.. a name that will live in infamy..

DC sports curse continues..   fire Rizzo... hire Theo...
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Yada on October 14, 2016, 08:54:30 am
That's the sounds of 12,000 people running for the last Metro train...

that didn't happen.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on October 14, 2016, 09:05:02 am
fuckin' dave roberts.. a name that will live in infamy..

DC sports curse continues..   fire Rizzo... hire Theo...

Yeah - that's gonna happen.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 14, 2016, 09:15:47 am
That's the sounds of 12,000 people running for the last Metro train...

that didn't happen.

I'm glad Metro didn't cave in to the demands of the Nats. Also glad people were resourceful enough to find alternative transportation. After my last 2.5 hour ride home on Metro from a Nats game, I will forever be doing the same.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on October 14, 2016, 09:51:12 am
What a soul crushing loss. Even after they got the 2 runs I knew they were just reeling us in to let us down. What a travesty.

I guess the Nats are now in the Caps realm where they will now be known as choking dogs.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Yada on October 14, 2016, 09:58:51 am
Even after they got the 2 runs I knew they were just reeling us in to let us down. 

My biggest fear was them scoring one run in the bottom of the 9th and dragging us into a 14 inning death match, only to lose.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 14, 2016, 10:03:28 am
That's the sounds of 12,000 people running for the last Metro train...

that didn't happen.

yup.  it was surprising how few people left in time to grab the last train.

biggest boo of the night happened when they announced over the PA that the last train would be at 11:39.  it was deafening.

game ended at 12:45... i believe that the 7th inning was over an hour long.  certainly felt like it.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 14, 2016, 10:06:50 am
That's the sounds of 12,000 people running for the last Metro train...

that didn't happen.

I'm glad Metro didn't cave in to the demands of the Nats.

maybe i'm missing something here, but metro isn't doing this for the nats.  they would have been doing this for the 43,936 fans that came to the game.  residents of the DC/VA/MD area who pay taxes to subsidize metro and pay its ridiculous fares.  

metro should learn from uber: institute surge pricing.  need to charge me twice as much to run a few trains after the game ends?  i'd pay it.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: excontradiction on October 14, 2016, 10:08:50 am
They're not opening early for the Marine Corps Marathon either.  30,000 runners, 20,000 volunteers and 150,000 spectators be damned.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Yada on October 14, 2016, 10:18:29 am
That's the sounds of 12,000 people running for the last Metro train...

that didn't happen.

yup.  it was surprising how few people left in time to grab the last train.

biggest boo of the night happened when they announced over the PA that the last train would be at 11:39.  it was deafening.

game ended at 12:45... i believe that the 7th inning was over an hour long.  certainly felt like it.

One hour and six minutes to be exact. I got home at 2:15.  ???
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 14, 2016, 10:31:19 am
That's the sounds of 12,000 people running for the last Metro train...

that didn't happen.

I'm glad Metro didn't cave in to the demands of the Nats.

maybe i'm missing something here, but metro isn't doing this for the nats.  they would have been doing this for the 43,936 fans that came to the game.  residents of the DC/VA/MD area who pay taxes to subsidize metro and pay its ridiculous fares.  

metro should learn from uber: institute surge pricing.  need to charge me twice as much to run a few trains after the game ends?  i'd pay it.

Metro is indeed doing it for the riders. They're closing early to fix the tracks to make it safe for riders to ride. You can't go making exceptions to the schedule for one group or else everyone will want an exception.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 14, 2016, 10:37:04 am
They're not opening early for the Marine Corps Marathon either.  30,000 runners, 20,000 volunteers and 150,000 spectators be damned.

Has the MCM looked into the feasibility of starting the race later? It starts at 7:40am. Why make Metro start Saturday service earlier? By comparison, the NYC Marathon starts at 9:50.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: excontradiction on October 14, 2016, 10:45:29 am
They're not opening early for the Marine Corps Marathon either.  30,000 runners, 20,000 volunteers and 150,000 spectators be damned.

Has the MCM looked into the feasibility of starting the race later? It starts at 7:40am. Why make Metro start Saturday service earlier? By comparison, the NYC Marathon starts at 9:50.

MCM is keeping the start line open for an hour longer, to allow for runners who can't make arrangements for alternate transportation.  Since it's a chip timed race, it won't affect finish times too much.  A faster runner would have to weave in and out of the pack a bit more, I suppose...
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on October 14, 2016, 11:02:31 am
Not sure I'll be able to handle the stress of Thursday. And Caps kicking off the season in Pittsburgh? Uy. Could be the opposite of how good DC sports were to us on Sunday... I have faith in Mad Max!

The opposite, yes.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on October 14, 2016, 11:46:42 am
Not sure I'll be able to handle the stress of Thursday. And Caps kicking off the season in Pittsburgh? Uy. Could be the opposite of how good DC sports were to us on Sunday... I have faith in Mad Max!

The opposite, yes.
At least Max didn't disappoint... Maybe Redskins beat the Iggles? Eh? 4 in a row? That can't happen, right? We can't have nice things.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on October 14, 2016, 12:49:10 pm
Dusty Baker Panicked (http://deadspin.com/dusty-baker-panicked-1787793805)

I actually thought this at the time.  Scherzer gives up an opposite field homer, sure, but it was only 1-1 and it was only his 99th pitch.  I figured he'd go 120 at least. 
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on October 14, 2016, 01:30:47 pm
fuckin' dave roberts.. a name that will live in infamy..

DC sports curse continues..   fire Rizzo... hire Theo...

Yeah - that's gonna happen.

I rate this a very likely scenario.. first the Cubs win a couple of World Series and then the Lerner family- always known for being big spenders- make Theo and offer he can't refuse so that he can break a record setting THIRD curse... following on the heels of the Bambino and Goat....Theo will take an ownership stake of course.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on October 14, 2016, 01:32:22 pm
Dusty Baker Panicked (http://deadspin.com/dusty-baker-panicked-1787793805)

I actually thought this at the time.  Scherzer gives up an opposite field homer, sure, but it was only 1-1 and it was only his 99th pitch.  I figured he'd go 120 at least. 

well it was a Game 5 late inning situation..... but I have no opinion on the matter..
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 14, 2016, 03:20:49 pm
Maybe Redskins beat the Iggles? Eh? 4 in a row? That can't happen, right? We can't have nice things.

fivethirtyeight is saying that game is 50-50: http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-nfl-predictions/
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: excontradiction on October 14, 2016, 08:40:19 pm
If the "Redskins Rule" is real, the skins gotta win for Clinton to win.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on October 14, 2016, 10:00:06 pm
The Nats and the Caps win the season.  The 'Skins win the preseason. 
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on October 17, 2016, 09:54:17 am
The Nats and the Caps win the season.  The 'Skins win the preseason. 
4-2  ::)

Can't believe the Cowboys. Why. Why them!? They have had a soft schedule though. They only beat us by 4. Looking forward to that rematch.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on December 01, 2016, 01:51:26 pm
McCuthcheon to the Nats is all but finished, I'm being told.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on December 01, 2016, 01:59:44 pm
McCuthcheon to the Nats is all but finished, I'm being told.

nice
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on December 01, 2016, 02:10:47 pm
McCuthcheon to the Nats is all but finished, I'm being told.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nationals-pirates-reportedly-ramping-trade-175820675.html
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on December 01, 2016, 06:25:01 pm
 Attention MLB teams: Andrew McCutchen has more red flags than just a down year  (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fancy-stats/wp/2016/12/01/attention-mlb-teams-andrew-mccutchen-has-more-red-flags-than-just-a-down-year/?hpid=hp_no-name_hp-in-the-news%3Apage%2Fin-the-news&utm_term=.60d0b667b3e7)

Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on December 05, 2016, 04:06:22 pm
Nats Taken Back by Bryce Harper's Extension Request (http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/2016/12/05/nationals-bryce-harper-contract-2018-free-agent/94999440/)

"Harper, according to the executive, is asking for a record deal that will exceed 10 years in length, and likely pay him in excess of $400 million."

One other thing: Trout is not represented by Scott Boras.  Have fun!
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on December 05, 2016, 04:52:34 pm
Nats Taken Back by Bryce Harper's Extension Request (http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/2016/12/05/nationals-bryce-harper-contract-2018-free-agent/94999440/)

"Harper, according to the executive, is asking for a record deal that will exceed 10 years in length, and likely pay him in excess of $400 million."

One other thing: Trout is not represented by Scott Boras.  Have fun!

let him go..
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on December 06, 2016, 11:12:20 am
Nats Taken Back by Bryce Harper's Extension Request (http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/2016/12/05/nationals-bryce-harper-contract-2018-free-agent/94999440/)

"Harper, according to the executive, is asking for a record deal that will exceed 10 years in length, and likely pay him in excess of $400 million."

One other thing: Trout is not represented by Scott Boras.  Have fun!

let him go..
If he has another season like this last one they sure will!
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Space Freely on December 07, 2016, 09:46:47 pm
White Sox rob the Nats...should have just kept Espinosa n kept Turner in center rather than losing those future pitching studs.

And they're counting on a guy who hit .186 last year to replace Ramos? Not impressed with offseason so far.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on December 10, 2016, 11:15:10 pm
Angels send RHPs Kyle McGowin and Austin Adams to Nationals in exchange for Espinosa
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on December 24, 2016, 12:44:53 pm
Any other failed Nats who's salary you'd like to dump on Anaheim?

Ben Revere signs one year, $4m deal with the Angels
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on December 24, 2016, 01:52:31 pm
Any other failed Nats who's salary you'd like to dump on Anaheim?

Ben Revere signs one year, $4m deal with the Angels

Bryce?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on December 24, 2016, 11:17:05 pm
Any other failed Nats who's salary you'd like to dump on Anaheim?

Ben Revere signs one year, $4m deal with the Angels

That's a Duquette special - anticipating a bounce back year and getting a player on the cheap.  I guess $4M is cheap.  I really don't know anymore.   
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on February 21, 2017, 12:51:24 pm
Wieters 2 years $21M
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on February 21, 2017, 01:11:26 pm
Wieters 2 years $21M

I'm shocked he got more than one year ($10m/17 and $11m/18).  Even more surprised HE can opt out after year one.

I thought one year, $15m for sure.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on February 28, 2017, 10:24:05 pm
nats sign joe blanton.. 1 year

UPDATE: The salary structure is kind of odd. Barry Svrluga of the Washington Post reports that Blanton will get only $1 million in 2017, plus some incentives, and will have $1 million deferred to 2018 and $2 million deferred to 2019.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on March 01, 2017, 01:52:36 pm
UPDATE: The salary structure is kind of odd.

No, it's not odd for the Nats.  They've done this with every signing in the last 2 years.   They're poor, trying hard to to win a title for an aging owner, and are hoping the MASN thing works itself out.  If it doesn't this team is going to be so bad for years with all of the deferred money they've promised.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on March 01, 2017, 02:38:10 pm
They're poor?  I know masn has a bunch of their money tied up, but I don't know that I'd consider the Lerners poor.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on March 01, 2017, 09:50:32 pm
i dont get it.. i thought they had been a big spending team.. although i gave the lerners a lot of flak for being stingy in the past  i thought they had made a good effort...
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on June 04, 2017, 04:16:21 pm
 Pour one out for Baseball Bill, 'the heart and soul of Washington sports'  (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc-sports-bog/wp/2017/06/02/pour-one-out-for-baseball-bill-the-heart-and-soul-of-washington-sports/?utm_term=.31cb01b6ab64)

(https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://img.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/files/2017/06/bb517b.jpg&w=1484)
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on June 21, 2017, 02:09:00 pm
Hoya just posted on FB that Scherzer has a no-no through 6 7. 

Don't blame me....
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: chaz on June 21, 2017, 02:30:06 pm
Hoya just posted on FB that Scherzer has a no-no through 6 7. 

Don't blame me....

So much for that.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on June 21, 2017, 02:44:52 pm
So much for that.

I blame Hoya.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: ggw on June 27, 2017, 12:41:01 pm
KILLEBREW, Patrick, "Pat," age 68, passed away peacefully at home, June 20, 2017, after watching the Washington Nationals relief pitchers blow yet another lead. Beloved father and husband, longtime attorney, former U.S. Navy Navigator and avid baseball fan and player. Join in a celebration of his life July 2, 6 to 8 p.m., at the SCA Clubhouse, 9601 Redbridge Rd., 23236. In lieu of flowers, send "donations" to the "Nationals Bullpen Fund."

http://www.richmond.com/obituaries/killebrew-patrick/article_863f515d-cc63-5565-bc9b-00b8be664a80.html



Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on June 27, 2017, 12:43:06 pm
Don't worry Nats fans, you're getting K-Ro-- hAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, I can't even say it.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on June 27, 2017, 02:09:25 pm
Don't worry Nats fans, you're getting K-Ro-- hAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, I can't even say it.

I probably should have added you to my text to Hoya when I saw this....
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on June 29, 2017, 08:40:50 pm
Oh no Trea...
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on July 14, 2017, 03:16:23 pm
Don't worry Nats fans, you're getting K-Ro-- hAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, I can't even say it.

I probably should have added you to my text to Hoya when I saw this....

That was a short experiment.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: ggw on July 19, 2017, 10:10:34 am
34 > 27

At least last night.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 19, 2017, 03:15:08 pm
Went to JZimms no no last year and went to Mad Max's this year haha. Oh man. Talk about luck! The crowd was ON FIRE from about the 7th inning on.

Took my dad for father's day. He was stoked after I explained it to him lol. Took my gf last year and she didn't know/care and same with my dad. Hopefully I can see another one with someone who cares about sports history!

The first time we ever went on a family vacation to St. Petersburg, Zimmerman threw the Nats first no-hitter on our second day there.

The second time we ever went on a family vacation to St Petersburg, Scherzer throws a no-hitter on our first night there.

If the Nats want a third no-hitter, they're obviously going to need to fund a family vacation to Florida for us.

Do you guys remember when I went on a family vacation to St Petersburg, FL?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on July 20, 2017, 09:33:13 am
I guess the Angles Brass really like Meyer.

Meyer seems to be that perennial "young talent" that GM's and scouts love, he's been consistently on Baseball America's top 100 prospects list since he was drafted by the Nats.... meanwhile, he's now 26 and still hasn't had a modicum of success at the big league level when given the chance so we'll see how he does in his 3rd organization in 3 years....

Meyer finally started for the Angels last night.  Just as described - hard thrower with little control.  He was better than his numbers (4.0 IP, 8 H, 6 ER, 3 BB, 4K) but he will be frustrating to watch for a while.

But not NEARLY as frustrating to watch as Danny Espinosa.  Hoya warned me that he was not my kind of ball player, but my god how did Nats fans stand him for 6 seasons?  He's definitely not Scioscia's type either with the lack of contact he makes.  Not sure how he's tolerating it and I'm not sure how many more times I can watch him hit.

Meyer found his control and was nearly unhittable.

Espinosa was cut.

Sounds about right.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on July 20, 2017, 09:40:14 am
Smackie, I'm going to see your Halos when I'm in Dallas next month. I don't know why I felt the need to inform you of this, but I did.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 20, 2017, 09:51:33 am
Smackie, I'm going to see your Halos when I'm in Dallas next month. I don't know why I felt the need to inform you of this, but I did.

Let me know when you're going to see my Adirondack Red Wings.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on July 20, 2017, 09:59:28 am
Smackie, I'm going to see your Halos when I'm in Dallas next month. I don't know why I felt the need to inform you of this, but I did.

Let me know when you're going to see my Adirondack Red Wings.
I assure you, the next time I see any ECHL hockey, you will be the first person I inform.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: martinrob on July 29, 2017, 03:51:12 pm
Nat's acquire a utility player in Howie Kendrick from the Phillies.  Only two days left before the trading deadline and looking forward to seeing what Rizzo does to address the bullpen needs. 
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Space Freely on July 29, 2017, 04:42:36 pm
Nat's acquire a utility player in Howie Kendrick from the Phillies.  Only two days left before the trading deadline and looking forward to seeing what Rizzo does to address the bullpen needs.
What does this guy add that the current bench doesn't already have, especially once Turner, Taylor, and Werth return?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: martinrob on July 29, 2017, 10:30:21 pm
With the upcoming deadline the nats  could add Kendrick to have a reliable bat and field player on the roster.  Of for a trade for later.  Taylor could be dealt to another team, and Werth is in his last season of his contract.
Also, with the returning of Turner, Taylor, Heisey and Werth, there is no telling how each will play once they come back. 
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on July 31, 2017, 01:53:33 pm
What does this guy add that the current bench doesn't already have, especially once Turner, Taylor, and Werth return?

Veteran leadership.  And somebody to help Dusty not make bad decisions.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: martinrob on August 01, 2017, 12:51:45 pm
Excellent game last night.  Gio was pitching very well, and a very emotional day for him and the Miami Marlins organization.
Awesome to see Doolittle come in and complete the 9th for Gio.
Brandon "the Rhino" Kintzler is now added to the bullpen for the postseason run for the Nats. 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc-sports-bog/wp/2017/08/01/brandon-kintzler-was-feeding-a-rhino-when-he-learned-hed-been-traded-to-nats/?utm_term=.a8cedec23ca1
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: martinrob on August 14, 2017, 02:01:08 pm
Tough weekend for the Nat's.  Although they took 2 of 3 from the Giants, they lost Bryce for a most of the remaining season.  He wants to come back when he is 100% and Goodwin tweaked his groin and will be day to day. 
Michael A Taylor is back with the club and at a time when we need him the most.  It is quite impressive how the Nat's are able to compete with players from within their own system.  Also the addition of Howie Kendrick will keep the outfield as a strong unit.  Howie hit a game winning grand slam last night to win the game in the 11th.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on August 14, 2017, 04:08:38 pm
Nat's acquire a utility player in Howie Kendrick from the Phillies.  Only two days left before the trading deadline and looking forward to seeing what Rizzo does to address the bullpen needs.
What does this guy add that the current bench doesn't already have, especially once Turner, Taylor, and Werth return?
What does this guy add that the current bench doesn't already have, especially once Turner, Taylor, and Werth return?

Veteran leadership.  And somebody to help Dusty not make bad decisions.

And game winning grand slams....
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on August 16, 2017, 12:30:43 am
And single-handedly reminding his old team that's he can still win games.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on August 16, 2017, 04:41:47 pm
Nolasco's calf cramp was a blessing.  He was about to serve up a another long ball....

I'll take a split in DC.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: martinrob on August 29, 2017, 12:26:08 pm
The strong getting stronger.
Welcome back Jason Werth.  2-4 with a 2 run bomb.
Next, Trea Turner is scheduled to come back this evening.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 05, 2017, 08:08:09 pm
Harper has gone all Negro on us.

http://m.mlb.com/cutfour/2017/09/05/252643550/bryce-harper-unveils-new-hairstyle-on-instagram

Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on September 06, 2017, 03:45:42 pm
Harper has gone all Negro on us.

How can you be sure he didn't go all white college girl on spring break?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 06, 2017, 04:25:10 pm
Harper has gone all Negro on us.

How can you be sure he didn't go all white college girl on spring break?

Clownrows, bro. I bet his wife is already counting the days until he's a Yankee.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 09, 2017, 12:02:34 am
My first game of the year and what a fucking game by Michael A.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on September 09, 2017, 12:16:20 am
Haha u saw an inside the park grand slam!!
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Space Freely on September 09, 2017, 09:32:13 am
Haha u saw an inside the park grand slam!!

Only the second one in 18 years!
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: martinrob on September 10, 2017, 07:02:13 pm
Nat's wrapped up the East today.  It is going to be a interesting series next weekend with the Dodgers.  Saturday seems like the best matchup with Strasburg and Hill.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on September 11, 2017, 03:13:51 pm
Nats have won the division as many times as the Mets have in 44 years

That is pretty funny
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: challenged on September 11, 2017, 08:43:10 pm
Nats have won the division as many times as the Mets have in 44 years

That is pretty funny

Funny/Sad either way. Nats have to get out of the first round.


Still, am I missing the single game onsale for playoff tixkets, or has it already happened?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on September 13, 2017, 02:02:15 pm
Don't think it has happened yet seeing as they're the first team to clinch so maybe the schedules aren't set yet. Maybe I missed it as well though.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on September 13, 2017, 02:17:09 pm
Nats have won the division as many times as the Mets have in 44 years

That is pretty funny

Funny/Sad either way. Nats have to get out of the first round.


Yes, dig it - you're the A's of the twenty-teens!

Speaking of which - whose going to call Cleveland and tell them that when the A's won 20 straight they were bounced in the first round?   
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 09, 2017, 08:30:32 pm
Two reasons why the Cubs won:

1. Dusty
2. Baker
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on October 09, 2017, 10:03:58 pm
I like Dusty


Werth sucks and was to blame on bloop single. Not sure it is Dusty Baker's fault Nats got three hits...
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 10, 2017, 09:27:13 am
I like Dusty


Werth sucks and was to blame on bloop single. Not sure it is Dusty Baker's fault Nats got three hits...

They lost because the dumbass manager pulled the best pitcher in baseball after 6+ innings of shutout ball and only 98 pitches thrown, the first 97 of which were not for base hits. And with several stellar options in the bullpen, none of which he should have gone with at that point anyway, the dumbass manager made the decision to replace the best pitcher in baseball with a guy who had a season WHIP of 1.436 and ERA of 5.88.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: StoneTheCrow on October 10, 2017, 09:47:03 am
Not a Nats fan but have to agree. There's no way he should have pulled Max there.

And nobody diving for that bloop single was kinda dumb, too.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on October 10, 2017, 11:28:03 am
Hello, Joe Girardi
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on October 10, 2017, 11:33:22 am
I think pulling Max was the right call, but in that spot, looking to go up, when the bats are silent again, Max has shown that he can power through those kinds of situations. I think you let him rock through that inning and check his hamstring after. It's the playoffs. THIS is why you kept him out game 1 and 2. THIS is where you push the players. Now they're facing elimination. ESPECIALLY when the bullpen [yeah, different teams yadda yadda] has blown starts for this team again and again.

Can't win when the bats go silent though.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 10, 2017, 11:46:59 am
I think pulling Max was the right call, but in that spot, looking to go up, when the bats are silent again, Max has shown that he can power through those kinds of situations. I think you let him rock through that inning and check his hamstring after. It's the playoffs. THIS is why you kept him out game 1 and 2. THIS is where you push the players. Now they're facing elimination. ESPECIALLY when the bullpen [yeah, different teams yadda yadda] has blown starts for this team again and again.

Can't win when the bats go silent though.

Tell that to the Cubs. They have only eight runs on 15 hits in 26 innings and still managed to win two out of three.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on October 10, 2017, 12:58:25 pm
They've scored more than the Nats? Lol

This has been the Nats boogeyman smh. I *hope* there's a rain delay so Stras can take the hill tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 10, 2017, 01:17:08 pm
They've scored more than the Nats? Lol

This has been the Nats boogeyman smh. I *hope* there's a rain delay so Stras can take the hill tomorrow.

Small sample size but Illinois native Roark has been impressive at Wrigley. And Arrieta has not been that good against the Nats. Still, yeah forecast definitely looks good for a rainout and I'll take Strasburg over Roark on the mound any day. If Strasburg pitched game 4 and they won, who would pitch game 5? Would Gio have enough rest or would you have to go with Roark anyway?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on October 10, 2017, 01:21:33 pm
I guess it depends on the bats. Probably have to go Roark in game 5. Gio seems too up and down and I'm not a huge fan of short rest if it's not needed.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on October 10, 2017, 01:24:41 pm
Ha..that is why u guys are not managing

Scherzer ummm is coming back from injury...the sports hunkies saidwhen he starts huffing around the mound rizzo said it means he is done...they disagreed 2 to 2 on whether he should have been pinch hit previous AB

werth should have been subbed for defense...

Kendrick should have started all games but they just love them some werth but dusty costing them game???  Umm 1-4 batters 0 for 16 cost game


But i get it..blaming dusty is fans pastime

I prefer maddon and girardi to dusty but dusty is working without long term deal...maddon or just about anybody would not do that...other issue might be bryce batting 2nd
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on October 10, 2017, 01:28:21 pm
Pretty sure Dusty wants to win a pennant more than he wants a contract extension. I don't think he's half assing it because he hasn't been extended yet. And I'm not blaming Dusty at all, I said I thought pulling Max was the right thing to do, even if I've seen this scenario play out with this team many times before.

And like I said you can't win when the bats are silent! Unless you're the Cubs I guess. Nats just plain need to score. 1 catastrophic error and they're done. Cubs had 4 god damn errors and still pulled out a win. Nats can't even seem to fuck up even once and recover. SMALL BALL. JUST PLAY SMALL BALL.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 10, 2017, 01:31:33 pm
I guess it depends on the bats. Probably have to go Roark in game 5. Gio seems too up and down and I'm not a huge fan of short rest if it's not needed.

Game 5 is Thursday and Gio threw five innings on Saturday. That would be enough rest, right?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: excontradiction on October 10, 2017, 01:33:20 pm
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Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on October 10, 2017, 01:47:59 pm
What i meant is if u are cheap u get dusty not maddon ...
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on October 10, 2017, 02:54:43 pm
Just dropping in to see how clenched everybody's asses are....
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on October 10, 2017, 03:20:55 pm
Hey at least we still have our asses..

Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 10, 2017, 08:23:35 pm
Dumbass Dusty still planning on starting Roark on Wed. How are we all liking that idea?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: ggw on October 10, 2017, 09:36:57 pm
Dumbass Dusty still planning on starting Roark on Wed. How are we all liking that idea?

It's the mold:

“Yes, and a lot of my team is under the weather with the change of weather and the air conditioning in the hotel and the air conditioning here,” Baker explained. “It’s just this time of the year for mold around Chicago — I think it’s mold. I mean, I have it, too.”
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on October 11, 2017, 09:46:02 am
Stephen Strasburg and Nationals commit biggest error of the season (https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/stephen-strasburg-and-nationals-commit-biggest-error-of-the-season/2017/10/11/fdcab2de-ae81-11e7-be94-fabb0f1e9ffb_story.html?hpid=hp_local-news_strasburg-930am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.e64f7b84a1e7)
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on October 11, 2017, 09:54:16 am
Geez...wtf
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on October 11, 2017, 11:05:41 am
For what it's worth, they could still say Stras pitches tonight... At least that's what Rizzo said this morning.

Ass puckered to a dangerous level. Can't see this team going out in 4 games, but DC teams are always surprising me.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on October 11, 2017, 11:24:38 am
Can't see this team going out in 4 games, but DC teams are always surprising me.
At this point, wouldn't "actually winning something" constitute a surprise? Going out in the first round in four games is probably the most-consistent, least-surprising outcome they've had.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 11, 2017, 11:38:42 am
He’s attempting to put his balls on the line.

I don’t know, since when does a pussy have balls?

Despite Nationals right-hander Stephen Strasburg not taking the ball for his team in an elimination game against the Cubs on Wednesday because he’s ill, Nationals general manager Mike Rizzo defended the competitiveness of his $175-million ace.
“He is attempting to put his balls on the line,” Rizzo said on 106.7 The Fan in Washington D.C. on Wednesday morning ahead of the after Game 4 of the National League Division Series at Wrigley Field. “He went out and threw a bullpen and said to Mike Maddux, our pitching coach, ‘I’m going to give you everything I have, I don’t know how much it is.’ We made the decision that we want a 100 percent Tanner Roark over a depleted Stephen Strasburg.”
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on October 11, 2017, 11:44:05 am
Stras now starting.  I love Dusty....
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on October 11, 2017, 11:52:42 am
Stras set to start lol

EDIT: as of 11:56am he's back out lol
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on October 11, 2017, 02:56:25 pm
Done with Stras...the guy is just too "fragile" physically and mentally...so Rendon made ONE error...does Stras pick him up?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on October 11, 2017, 03:33:29 pm
Done with Stras...the guy is just too "fragile" physically and mentally...so Rendon made ONE error...does Stras pick him up?
He's gonna pitch?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on October 11, 2017, 04:44:53 pm
I like to think that as soon as the rain out was called yesterday, Dusty called Stras into his office and asked if he was healthy for the game.  Then when Stras said yes, he called Roarke in and said, I'm given the ball to Stras tomorrow, but the team needs you to be ready for relief or for game 5. 

He then told the team leaders and asked them to keep it a secret so that the ensuing media circus would take the focus (and pressure) off the hitters, which have been the real problem for the playoffs.

But then I remembered that's what Smackie would do, and there's no way Dusty would do that.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on October 11, 2017, 05:15:47 pm
Trea Turner did some baseball
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on October 11, 2017, 06:59:51 pm
Good call resident gm smackie...bats have come alive!!!!
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 11, 2017, 08:02:18 pm
Good call resident gm smackie...bats have come alive!!!!

5/32 (.156) isn't really coming alive in my book but it beats .121 I reckon.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on October 12, 2017, 12:39:20 am

Speaking of which - whose going to call Cleveland and tell them that when the A's won 20 straight they were bounced in the first round?   

I take it none of you called them?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on October 12, 2017, 12:58:43 pm
What a heartbreaker for Cleveland. Some hellacious ABs from the Yankees.

I am not prepared for tonight. Have no faith in the offense. Am curious to see how Roark handles it. Interested to see if they have Max come out of the pen if need be. Dang.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 12, 2017, 01:02:24 pm
What a heartbreaker for Cleveland. Some hellacious ABs from the Yankees.

I am not prepared for tonight. Have no faith in the offense. Am curious to see how Roark handles it. Interested to see if they have Max come out of the pen if need be. Dang.

How Roark handles what?

I'm positive we'll see Max tonight unless it's a Nats early blowout.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on October 12, 2017, 02:12:51 pm
What a heartbreaker for Cleveland. Some hellacious ABs from the Yankees.

I am not prepared for tonight. Have no faith in the offense. Am curious to see how Roark handles it. Interested to see if they have Max come out of the pen if need be. Dang.

How Roark handles what?

I'm positive we'll see Max tonight unless it's a Nats early blowout.
I thought Tanner was listed as the starter. Nats site says "Roark or Gonzalez" lol

 I guess we'll find out!
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: ggw on October 12, 2017, 02:32:42 pm
Fat Albers.  Best W-L record (7-2) and lowest ERA (1.62) on the team.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on October 12, 2017, 02:39:58 pm
It's Gio.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 12, 2017, 03:14:05 pm
Fat Albers.  Best W-L record (7-2) and lowest ERA (1.62) on the team.

For a fat guy, he pulls pretty good results.

(https://coedbc.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/15-tara-albers-matt-albers-cws.png?w=750&h=420&quality=85&strip=all)
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on October 12, 2017, 03:24:40 pm
What percentage of baseball players do you think are married to / dating unattractive women? 
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on October 12, 2017, 03:27:51 pm
Fat Albers.  Best W-L record (7-2) and lowest ERA (1.62) on the team.

For a fat guy, he pulls pretty good results.

(https://coedbc.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/15-tara-albers-matt-albers-cws.png?w=750&h=420&quality=85&strip=all)
She should call me when she loses 40 pounds.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 12, 2017, 03:36:49 pm
What percentage of baseball players do you think are married to / dating unattractive women?

Somewhere north of 0%.

I give you exhibit M.

#1 Victor & Margaret Martinez.  Catchers aren’t necessarily known to get the hottest women in the world, but Victor has had quite a career. I know that these two young lovers have been together since they were 17. I searched far and wide, but no photo of Margaret Martinez in her younger days was available so I have to go with what I see now. This is a rough one. She looks tough, she looks mean, and the main reason you got this spot is because you married a former Redsox.

(http://cache.boston.com/bonzai-fba/Original_Photo/2010/09/09/wives2__1284045463_0152.jpg)
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 12, 2017, 04:35:58 pm
Oh, and one more:

https://www.the-mainboard.com/index.php?threads/hey-madison-bumgarner-what-in-the-fuck.121129/

Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 12, 2017, 08:28:03 pm
I'm going to post this as Caveman steps to the plate for the first time.

Lind or Kendrick should be in LF.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on October 12, 2017, 08:48:20 pm
I'm going to post this as Caveman steps to the plate for the first time.

Lind or Kendrick should be in LF.

Boy, you've come a long way in just a couple months:

Nat's acquire a utility player in Howie Kendrick from the Phillies.  Only two days left before the trading deadline and looking forward to seeing what Rizzo does to address the bullpen needs.
What does this guy add that the current bench doesn't already have, especially once Turner, Taylor, and Werth return?
Veteran leadership.  And somebody to help Dusty not make bad decisions.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 12, 2017, 09:06:18 pm
I'm going to post this as Caveman steps to the plate for the first time.

Lind or Kendrick should be in LF.

Boy, you've come a long way in just a couple months:

Nat's acquire a utility player in Howie Kendrick from the Phillies.  Only two days left before the trading deadline and looking forward to seeing what Rizzo does to address the bullpen needs.
What does this guy add that the current bench doesn't already have, especially once Turner, Taylor, and Werth return?
Veteran leadership.  And somebody to help Dusty not make bad decisions.

I've never been a Caveman fan, and tbh didn't even know who Kendrick was. Obviously, he was impressive after coming here.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 12, 2017, 10:05:04 pm
Not a fan of starters being used as relievers! Should have stuck with Fat Albers for a second inning.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on October 12, 2017, 10:52:15 pm
Scherzer not getting it done was crushing to the team’s psyche.  Dusty would not bench Werth.  Dusty will not be back next year.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on October 12, 2017, 11:39:30 pm
@JeffPassan
The last four Cubs have reached base on an intentional walk, a passed-ball strikeout, catcher's interference and a hit by pitch.

@JeffPassan
I am willing to bet never before in baseball history have four batters in a row reached on this sequence of events.

@baseball_ref
Baseball Reference
None of the 2.73m half innings in our db have even had all 4 of these events.  22 w/ 3. Only 5 games had all 4.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on October 12, 2017, 11:55:49 pm
I would never sell my seat to the marlins guy. 
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on October 13, 2017, 09:33:49 am
Feelin cursed....

but nats dont play sound
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: ggw on October 13, 2017, 10:28:07 am
Rules 6.03(a)(3) and (4) Comment; "If a batter strikes at a ball and misses and swings so hard he carries the bat all the way around and, in the umpire’s judgment, unintentionally hits the catcher or the ball in back of him on the backswing, it shall be called a strike only (not interference).  The ball will be dead, however, and no runner shall advance on the play."

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/official_info/official_rules/official_rules.jsp

Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: DeathFromAbove1979 on October 13, 2017, 12:10:55 pm
Rules 6.03(a)(3) and (4) Comment; "If a batter strikes at a ball and misses and swings so hard he carries the bat all the way around and, in the umpire’s judgment, unintentionally hits the catcher or the ball in back of him on the backswing, it shall be called a strike only (not interference).  The ball will be dead, however, and no runner shall advance on the play."

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/official_info/official_rules/official_rules.jsp
no replay for this huh

CURSED. I SAID IT. CURSED. WE'RE CURSED. I'M ALL IN. WE'RE CURSED. I SAW IT. THAT WAS A HEX UPON THIS CITY.

FLIPPIN CURSED.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 13, 2017, 01:56:27 pm
Since they sign all the best players and his Nats contract is up, are we going to see the Yankees sign Caveman and in turn make him get a haircut and shave?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Yada on October 13, 2017, 02:02:19 pm
This thread should probably be deleted from the forum database.

Seth, can you reach out to your IT folk?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on October 13, 2017, 02:20:32 pm
This thread should probably be deleted from the forum database.

Seth, can you reach out to your IT folk?

Actually, this one should be fo sho.... (http://forum.930.com/index.php?topic=21873.0)

Or maybe it is time to BREAK UP THE F-ING NATIONALS!  But I don't think that's what the OP had in mind when he created the thread....
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: sweetcell on October 13, 2017, 06:18:47 pm
This thread should probably be deleted from the forum database.

Seth, can you reach out to your IT folk?

seth didn't make "Ability to delete" a requirement, so you're out of luck.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on October 13, 2017, 06:23:37 pm
Starting to wonder...what proven managers are out there looking for work? Not counting Farrell
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on October 13, 2017, 07:00:24 pm
I just never get the sense that the Nats know how to play smart baseball be it on the basepaths or the field... 
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: martinrob on October 13, 2017, 08:06:32 pm
Dusty needs to go.  Not having Howie in was costly.  He was considering it but opted for Werth for his past performance in big games.  He is certainly living in the past and Werth was the weakest outfielder and the team could have benefited with Howie in the game.
Glad I was at the foo's show and did not witness this live, but I will say reading about the debacle that was game 5 was sickening.
With Roark not playing I can see Tanner wanting out of DC.  Having not pitched since Oct 1 and not playing says a lot about the lack of trust Dusty had for him.  There were plenty of opportunities within the 5 games and he also has experience coming out of the bullpen.
There is always next year.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on October 13, 2017, 08:11:57 pm
Agree about Howie...crazy considering how well he played during the stretch...in as far as Werth it is pretty clear the organization has a hard on for him...

But yeah as much as I like Dusty as a person he is past his shelflife but I am not sure who you replace him with
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on October 13, 2017, 08:14:45 pm
I know I will get crucified but I like Ray Knight...you listen to his postgame analysis and he gets all the fine points...the Nats coaching staff seems to know nothing about how to stand the team on the field or basepaths
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Thousand Made-Up Loves on October 15, 2017, 03:18:26 pm
I'm sick and tired of the Lerners' obsession with Boras clients. They are literally afraid of Scott Boras, he tells them what to do! Why the hell would they sign Matt Wieters when they traded two draft picks to acquire Derek Norris, who performed the same as Wieters at 1/3 the price? All the Boras clients choked (Scherzer) and played like shit (Werthless), except for Strasberg, who had to be CONVINCED to pitch in Game 4. Bryce played OK.

This team spends money poorly. They spend it all on high priced free agents and then play cheap with their managers and with their bench.

Fuck this fucking team.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Thousand Made-Up Loves on October 15, 2017, 03:20:07 pm
Starting to wonder...what proven managers are out there looking for work? Not counting Farrell

In addition, the Lerners have a rep for treating managers like shit. See: Jim Riggleman, Davey Johnson, Bud Black. Hell Dusty isn't even under contract for next year! The Lerners like this because they know Dusty wants to stick around and they can use it as leverage against him.

Fuck the Lerner family.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Thousand Made-Up Loves on October 15, 2017, 03:20:49 pm
This thread should probably be deleted from the forum database.

Seth, can you reach out to your IT folk?

 ::)
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on October 21, 2017, 01:15:55 pm
Making a move for Alex Cora is bold, but I don't see him passing on the Sox for the Nats.

Also, if I'm Cora I don't talk to a soul until my current team is eliminated.  Bigger things to worry about.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: martinrob on October 23, 2017, 08:45:23 pm
Cora with the Red Sox.  Ray Knight may have been a consideration but there was some assault and battery charge from this weekend.
Farrell maybe.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on October 24, 2017, 12:22:54 pm
Farrell maybe.

I'm pretty sure it's Dave Martinez' job to lose at this point.  Of course I said the same thing about Bud Black and the Nats still managed to screw that up.   After the job he's done in CO, Nats fans have to wonder where they'd be today under Bud Black. 
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 24, 2017, 01:02:35 pm
Farrell maybe.

I'm pretty sure it's Dave Martinez' job to lose at this point.  Of course I said the same thing about Bud Black and the Nats still managed to screw that up.  After the job he's done in CO, Nats fans have to wonder where they'd be today under Bud Black.

They would have been Wild Card Game losers?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on October 24, 2017, 01:37:49 pm
They would have been Wild Card Game losers?

Any manager that takes a team from 75-87 to 87-75 in MLB's toughest division, with a payroll $60m less than the Nats, probably would have gotten the Nats out of the first round the last two years.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on October 24, 2017, 02:41:18 pm
Given the nats failures in the postseason include many managers I dont think it at all credible to think Black would have done better...but I realize smackie wants to prove himself right without any proof of course

How many times did black make world series as mgr vs say dusty anyways?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on October 26, 2017, 11:12:19 am
Well well well. Joe Girardi is all of a sudden available...
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on October 26, 2017, 11:18:29 am
Well well well. Joe Girardi is all of a sudden available...
You just know they're going to sign him. You just know.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Julian, Semi-Retired WUNDERKIND on October 26, 2017, 11:18:48 am
Joe Girardi is all of a sudden available...
Can confirm.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on October 26, 2017, 12:39:49 pm
Well well well. Joe Girardi is all of a sudden available...
You just know they're going to sign him. You just know.

Yep.  And they should.  All he did was take that mediocre Yankees team to the ALCS....
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on October 26, 2017, 01:13:37 pm
Oh god please girardi...they will be too cheap though
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on October 26, 2017, 07:08:33 pm
Mike Maddux jumped ship to the Cardinals.  Must not have faith or saw the writing on the wall?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Space Freely on October 26, 2017, 07:19:06 pm
So thus far we've had three of the eight divisional series managers fired, and one pitching coach.

When do we get to start firing underperforming players?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on October 29, 2017, 01:59:31 pm
Reporting is its dave martinez ..maddon's bench coach past 10 years...
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on November 01, 2017, 04:35:34 pm
Fun Fact: Matt Williams, Bud Black, Dusty Baker and Dave Martinez were all members of the 1993 San Francisco Giants.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on November 06, 2017, 05:07:28 pm
Weiters exercised his option.  Not sure if I'm surprised or not.  Usually Boras clients don't do that, but then again, he only hit .225 last season so his options were limited.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on November 06, 2017, 10:17:47 pm
Weiters exercised his option.  Not sure if I'm surprised or not.  Usually Boras clients don't do that, but then again, he only hit .225 last season so his options were limited.

Yup.  And he wouldn't get that number from anybody else.  Oh, and they could add Castillo and have 2 ex-O's behind the plate.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Space Freely on November 06, 2017, 10:24:04 pm
Weiters exercised his option.  Not sure if I'm surprised or not.  Usually Boras clients don't do that, but then again, he only hit .225 last season so his options were limited.

Yup.  And he wouldn't get that number from anybody else.  Oh, and they could add Castillo and have 2 ex-O's behind the plate.

And add Ubaldo as a back end starter. Now we're talking.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on January 29, 2018, 07:10:31 pm
 J.T. Realmuto has to happen, right?

It makes too much sense not to...
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on March 01, 2018, 05:37:28 pm
Bryce Harper had surgery today.  He's out for the week.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: shemptiness on March 29, 2018, 12:15:49 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DZXozi0XUAAvNCD.jpg)
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on March 29, 2018, 12:21:57 pm
You got to be kidding
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: sweetcell on March 29, 2018, 12:49:28 pm
that's for a 32 oz crowler, right?  nice!
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on March 29, 2018, 03:41:21 pm
I bet it's Blue moon.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on April 06, 2018, 12:34:23 pm
So, I'm thinking.  Saturday gets rained/snowed out.  Chances of a double header on Sunday?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on June 12, 2018, 04:59:52 pm
National League exec on Bryce Harper: “He’s simply overrated . . . He’s a losing player” (https://mlb.nbcsports.com/2018/06/12/national-league-exec-on-bryce-harper-hes-simply-overrated-hes-a-losing-player/)
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on June 12, 2018, 05:08:25 pm
Well....I been saying they should not sign him again....but I guess it will be hard not to make him any offer cause he has a ton of fans and is face of team for most...I like Rendón and Scherzer
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: vansmack on June 19, 2018, 01:04:53 pm
Harper shaves his face before playing the Yanks and you guys aren't going nuts about it?

Pfft.
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: Space Freely on June 19, 2018, 02:18:45 pm
Harper shaves his face before playing the Yanks and you guys aren't going nuts about it?

Pfft.

How about be takes some extra batting practice?
Title: Re: The Nats Thread
Post by: hutch on June 19, 2018, 02:38:33 pm
Flirting with Mendoza line...