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Re: Musicological banter
« Reply #1200 on: July 23, 2015, 06:40:04 pm »
How have we not talked about Nicki Minaj's justified call-out of the music industry/MTV for snubbing her in the VMA nominations and Taylor Swift's wrong-headed, tone-deaf response?

http://bit.ly/1gObO58
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Re: Musicological banter
« Reply #1201 on: July 23, 2015, 08:30:59 pm »
How have we not talked about Nicki Minaj's justified call-out of the music industry/MTV for snubbing her in the VMA nominations and Taylor Swift's wrong-headed, tone-deaf response?

http://bit.ly/1gObO58

The majority of the nominees were minorities. She has no point. Unless her point was she was snubbed because she's larger than Taylor Swift in which case she could always just lose some goddamn weight.

Anyone who calls "outrage" of a "VMA nomination snub" "justified" needs to get a grip.
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Re: Musicological banter
« Reply #1202 on: July 23, 2015, 09:20:38 pm »
Ed Sheeran getting the nod over her in the video of the year category is quite a headscratcher.


Does anyone here actually know what that Ed Sheeran song sounds like? "Anaconda" on the other hand was inescapable and... pretty damn awesome.
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Re: Musicological banter
« Reply #1203 on: July 23, 2015, 09:26:25 pm »
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Re: Musicological banter
« Reply #1204 on: July 23, 2015, 09:28:43 pm »
Her tweets werenot about Ed Sheeran. She referenced "the skinny girls" and discussed a choreography nomination Ed Sheeren did not get. It was a direct reference to either Taylor or Queen B, and she wasn't calling out Bey, obviously. Any other interpretation is intellectually dishonest and an attempt to shoehorn someone else's beef into Minaj's comments.

And again, this is the VMAs we are talking about. The ESPYs think this is utterly meaningless.
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Re: Musicological banter
« Reply #1205 on: July 23, 2015, 09:29:49 pm »
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Re: Musicological banter
« Reply #1206 on: July 23, 2015, 09:29:57 pm »
And also the (EDIT: first) article you linked is ridiculous. White women have had it worse than black men for the last 150 years in America. Any idea that racism trumps sexism is just ridiculous.
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Re: Musicological banter
« Reply #1207 on: July 23, 2015, 09:31:17 pm »
Ed Sheeran getting the nod over her in the video of the year category is quite a headscratcher.


Does anyone here actually know what that Ed Sheeran song sounds like? "Anaconda" on the other hand was inescapable and... pretty damn awesome.


A blind man voicing a definitive opinion about music VIDEOS is quite a headscratcher.

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Re: Musicological banter
« Reply #1208 on: July 23, 2015, 10:00:36 pm »
Says the guy who reviews shows without attending them.
Ed Sheeran getting the nod over her in the video of the year category is quite a headscratcher.


Does anyone here actually know what that Ed Sheeran song sounds like? "Anaconda" on the other hand was inescapable and... pretty damn awesome.


A blind man voicing a definitive opinion about music VIDEOS is quite a headscratcher.
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Re: Musicological banter
« Reply #1209 on: July 23, 2015, 10:03:18 pm »
^^ Epic. Every time.
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Re: Musicological banter
« Reply #1210 on: July 23, 2015, 11:25:02 pm »
How have we not talked about Nicki Minaj's justified call-out of the music industry/MTV for snubbing her in the VMA nominations and Taylor Swift's wrong-headed, tone-deaf response?

http://bit.ly/1gObO58

The majority of the nominees were minorities. She has no point. Unless her point was she was snubbed because she's larger than Taylor Swift in which case she could always just lose some goddamn weight.

Anyone who calls "outrage" of a "VMA nomination snub" "justified" needs to get a grip.

We are all minorities.
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Re: Musicological banter
« Reply #1211 on: July 24, 2015, 12:33:39 am »
We are all minorities.

not in significant ways ("i'm a former skateboarder, less than 0.1% of the population!!!").

you're a white male, AKA the majority.
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Re: Musicological banter
« Reply #1212 on: July 24, 2015, 12:35:43 am »
Says the guy who reviews shows without attending them.
A blind man voicing a definitive opinion about music VIDEOS is quite a headscratcher.

And again, this is the VMAs we are talking about. The ESPYs think this is utterly meaningless.

there is some quality writing going down here, people.  pay attention!
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Re: Musicological banter
« Reply #1213 on: July 24, 2015, 01:03:19 am »
On a sort of related topic, I just came across this.

As tempting as it is to respond to Julian's comment that white women have had it worse than black men here since the end of slavery, a discussion on Jim Crow, racial profiling and mass incarceration would swing this thread way off the intended topic.
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Re: Musicological banter
« Reply #1214 on: July 24, 2015, 09:06:14 am »
As tempting as it is to respond to Julian's comment that white women have had it worse than black men here since the end of slavery, a discussion on Jim Crow, racial profiling and mass incarceration would swing this thread way off the intended topic.
I concur.

A discussion of systematic unprosecuted sexual assault, wage disparity, and a de facto ban on hiring women for certain jobs would derail the Musicological banter. A comparison of the relative dates at which white women and black men were allowed to own property; vote; first served in Congress, the Senate, state governorships, the Supreme Court, and the Presidency; and were allowed to serve in liturgical roles in the majority of mainstream religions would be an annoying and longwinded sideshow on the board. The fact that women could be legally sodomized by their husbands in the majority of states IN OUR LIFETIMES would be a downright bummer to think about.

This would all take away from the true victim which is a multimillionaire rapper who didn't get a choreography nomination in America's 17th most prestigious arts award.
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