Author Topic: The MLB Thread  (Read 615239 times)

shemptiness

  • Member
  • Posts: 3288
Re: The MLB Thread
« Reply #1995 on: December 16, 2017, 12:39:39 pm »
Humorous that Dan Duquette was able to raid their farm system or humorous because they have to?

Both, because the more fringe prospects he takes now, the less they'll have on hand to give up when they trade for Machado.

There were reports that the White Sox were going to trade for Machado and flip him to the Yankees.  I can't believe that Ol' Pete
would approve a direct trade to NY. 

vansmack

  • Member
  • Posts: 19716
Re: The MLB Thread
« Reply #1996 on: December 16, 2017, 11:41:06 pm »
If the Yankees give up too much for a one year rental, then it's a victory.  Of course, that means enduring a successful 2018 Yankees team...
27>34

vansmack

  • Member
  • Posts: 19716
Re: The MLB Thread
« Reply #1997 on: January 23, 2018, 09:50:06 pm »
The MLB is failing its players

Thinking you might have an opinion on this

Of course I do!  I've been talking about this ad nauseum in my MLB Whatsapp thread....though you changed the headline: It should "MLBPA" is failing it's players.

First off - this is all Mike Trout and the Angels fault.  He would have been a free agent this off season and things would have been dramatically different.  Instead, he got paid, they got an extension, and both sides are happy until 2021.

That sets up next season for Harper, Machado and Kershaw (potentially) and a ton of teams making 1-year/2-year deals this often season to be part of next years premiere class. 

But here's what else you've got - an MLBPA Head that is a former major leaguer, not a lawyer, not a labor expert.  And he's getting trounced.   He comes from the old school, where the Union worked hard to make sure veterans get paid, and did so at the expense of younger players.  6 years of control kept the young players salaries down so the veterans could make more money.  Teams (and fans) are over that model and you're seeing that play out right now in the free agency period.  Houston and Chicago showed teams that getting younger is better and only the Giants haven't adjusted.

Does anybody really want their team to give:

Yu Darvish (31) - 5 years?
Lorenzo Cain (31) - 4 years?
Jake Arrietta (31) - 5 years?
JD Martinez (30) - 5 years?   

Until those guys sign, the rest won't - but teams don't want to meet their year demands.  I'm a little surprised that Moustakas and Hosmer are still there, given their age, but maybe they won't be signed until the best bat, JD Martinez, signs.   Let's not forget most of these guys turned down qualifying offers of $17+ million.

Next year is going to be an ABSOLUTE shitshow that I can't wait to watch, but this isn't going to get better until 2021 when the contract is up for review.  Hopefully the players association gets a new leader and they do what's right for baseball - reduce the years of control to 4 or 5, and owners will be more likely to sign bigger deals for younger (think age 27/28) players. 
27>34

vansmack

  • Member
  • Posts: 19716
Re: The MLB Thread
« Reply #1998 on: January 24, 2018, 07:32:53 pm »
Chipper Jones, Vladimir Guerrero, Jim Thome and Trevor Hoffman were elected to the Baseball Hall of Fame.
27>34

hutch

  • Guest
Re: The MLB Thread
« Reply #1999 on: January 24, 2018, 07:41:32 pm »
Very happy about Vlad and Chipper

shemptiness

  • Member
  • Posts: 3288
Re: The MLB Thread
« Reply #2000 on: January 25, 2018, 04:32:09 pm »
Chipper Jones, Vladimir Guerrero, Jim Thome and Trevor Hoffman were elected to the Baseball Hall of Fame.

2 former O's!  Hahaha.

vansmack

  • Member
  • Posts: 19716
Re: The MLB Thread
« Reply #2001 on: January 25, 2018, 04:44:28 pm »
2 former O's!  Hahaha.

Vlad has chosen to go in as an Angel, which is awesome.  The teams first HoFer!
27>34

hutch

  • Guest
Re: The MLB Thread
« Reply #2002 on: January 25, 2018, 05:26:33 pm »
I guess it would be weird to go in as An expo as team does not exist

Kubacheck

  • Member
  • Posts: 518
Re: The MLB Thread
« Reply #2003 on: January 25, 2018, 08:13:55 pm »
I guess it would be weird to go in as An expo as team does not exist

not really, considering how many guys are already in the Hall representing teams that don't exist anymore....

vansmack

  • Member
  • Posts: 19716
Re: The MLB Thread
« Reply #2004 on: January 25, 2018, 08:31:23 pm »
I guess it would be weird to go in as An expo as team does not exist

not really, considering how many guys are already in the Hall representing teams that don't exist anymore....


And it didn't stop Tim Raines from going in as an Expo.
27>34

vansmack

  • Member
  • Posts: 19716
Re: The MLB Thread
« Reply #2005 on: January 25, 2018, 08:32:01 pm »
Well hello, Milwaukee.

Traded for Yelich and apparently just signed Lorenzo Cain.
27>34

shemptiness

  • Member
  • Posts: 3288
Re: The MLB Thread
« Reply #2006 on: January 25, 2018, 08:34:47 pm »


Just a great cap.  Will the Rays move there already?

vansmack

  • Member
  • Posts: 19716
Re: The MLB Thread
« Reply #2007 on: January 25, 2018, 08:42:12 pm »
Well hello, Milwaukee.
 just signed Lorenzo Cain.

5 years, $80m for a defensive centerfielder entering his age 32 season with not great power?
27>34

vansmack

  • Member
  • Posts: 19716
Re: The MLB Thread
« Reply #2008 on: January 25, 2018, 08:42:56 pm »
Just a great cap.  Will the Rays move there already?

You're lucky he already decided to go Halo otherwise I may have had to block you...but yes, great cap. 
27>34

hutch

  • Guest
Re: The MLB Thread
« Reply #2009 on: January 25, 2018, 08:43:53 pm »
I will have to recheck his stats but as I recall his best years and a majority of his career was as an Expo so that is kind of sad but who cares...just glad he is in