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« Reply #210 on: December 19, 2014, 01:53:08 am »
When the hell did it become appropriate to place the $ sign after the number?
Its actually a growing trend. Most foreign currencies place their signal post-amount, and you see a lot of Europeans do the 20$ thing by rote.

It's a terrible trend.
What specifically do you dislike about it? It's actually much more sensible layout-wise. We say $500 as "500 dollars." Doesn't it make sense to put the character that is shorthand for "dollars" after the number?


I think their date scheme is even worse.  DD-MM-YY is absurd.  When we speak of dates we say March 24th, not 24th March.  I agree though that $### is superior to ###$.   They also reverse the separators in their monetary values.  1.000,00 makes absolutely zero sense as opposed to 1,000.00.  It would get really wacky when we had dollars and cents.  2.045$,26.
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« Reply #211 on: December 19, 2014, 09:43:15 am »
I agree on the date thing. I used to be into bootleg concert CD trading and finding a Euro list of shows was painful and very hard to parse.
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« Reply #212 on: December 19, 2014, 09:59:28 am »
I agree on the date thing. I used to be into bootleg concert CD trading and finding a Euro list of shows was painful and very hard to parse.

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« Reply #213 on: December 19, 2014, 11:08:59 am »
My friend filled me in on what Serial is. I have a 5 hour drive to a friends wedding on Sunday. I wonder if it will put me to sleep...
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« Reply #214 on: December 19, 2014, 12:39:05 pm »
My friend filled me in on what Serial is. I have a 5 hour drive to a friends wedding on Sunday. I wonder if it will put me to sleep...

You have a friend getting married the Sunday before Christmas?

If you get a chance,  pull them aside and punch them in the face.
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« Reply #215 on: December 19, 2014, 12:44:31 pm »
You have a friend getting married the Sunday before Christmas?

If you get a chance,  pull them aside and punch them in the face.
You think that's bad? I have a friend who got married this year on MichiganOhioState Day. I refused to go.
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« Reply #216 on: December 19, 2014, 03:20:28 pm »
the date format the makes the most sense is YYYY-MM-DD, with zeros in front of single digits (2014-02-09).  why?  dates are then sortable.  </nerd rant>

When we speak of dates we say March 24th, not 24th March. 

but we do say "24th of March". 

I agree though that $### is superior to ###$.   They also reverse the separators in their monetary values.  1.000,00 makes absolutely zero sense as opposed to 1,000.00. 

it makes zero sense to someone who does things differently.  in other words, your objection is purely subjective: "i'm not used to it, so it's inherently bad".   period/comma is not subjectively better or worse than comma/period.  they both accomplish the same function and neither is more efficient, elegant, etc than the other.

It would get really wacky when we had dollars and cents.  2.045$,26.

that reasoning is just asinine.  do we include both dollar and cent symbols today?  no, we write $2,045.26.  slamming something in there that isn't currently used to make a false point isn't helpful.
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« Reply #217 on: December 19, 2014, 03:24:41 pm »
My friend filled me in on what Serial is. I have a 5 hour drive to a friends wedding on Sunday. I wonder if it will put me to sleep...

You have a friend getting married the Sunday before Christmas?

If you get a chance,  pull them aside and punch them in the face.
I would, but she's so nice and cute. It's also way out past Blacksburg so... I'm hoping traffic won't be bad Sunday morning and Monday afternoon......
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« Reply #218 on: December 19, 2014, 03:42:41 pm »
the date format the makes the most sense is YYYY-MM-DD, with zeros in front of single digits (2014-02-09).  why?  dates are then sortable.  </nerd rant>


If you work for me, it is a requirement that you save ALL documents in this format.
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« Reply #219 on: December 19, 2014, 03:45:31 pm »
the date format the makes the most sense is YYYY-MM-DD, with zeros in front of single digits (2014-02-09).  why?  dates are then sortable.  </nerd rant>

When we speak of dates we say March 24th, not 24th March. 

but we do say "24th of March". 

I agree though that $### is superior to ###$.   They also reverse the separators in their monetary values.  1.000,00 makes absolutely zero sense as opposed to 1,000.00. 

it makes zero sense to someone who does things differently.  in other words, your objection is purely subjective: "i'm not used to it, so it's inherently bad".   period/comma is not subjectively better or worse than comma/period.  they both accomplish the same function and neither is more efficient, elegant, etc than the other.

It would get really wacky when we had dollars and cents.  2.045$,26.

that reasoning is just asinine.  do we include both dollar and symbols today?  no, we write $2,045.26.  slamming something in there that isn't used to make a false point isn't helpful.

^^ I agree with absolutely all of that.
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« Reply #220 on: December 19, 2014, 04:32:17 pm »
the date format the makes the most sense is YYYY-MM-DD, with zeros in front of single digits (2014-02-09).  why?  dates are then sortable.  </nerd rant>


If you work for me, it is a requirement that you save ALL documents in this format.

filed under "20141219amen,_brother.txt".
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« Reply #221 on: December 19, 2014, 07:20:06 pm »
I like the old European elegance of 19.XII.2014. I use that style for otherwise untitled boots in my iTunes.

And speaking of Roman numerals and Serial, I work with serials a lot at work. Many have been using Roman numerals for volume numbers for decades, and many of them should stop that practice. Beyond XXXIX, a lot them muck it up.
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« Reply #222 on: December 19, 2014, 07:41:58 pm »
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« Reply #223 on: December 21, 2014, 09:17:23 pm »
we need a new thread dedicated to a tacky song list for some interesting new news article going on in the real world.

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« Reply #224 on: December 22, 2014, 05:05:52 pm »
OK, no need to clutter the Death thread.

But, just because some of you don't like the two 90s Woodstocks, doesnt mean they didnt exist.