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Re: random . . . randomness
« Reply #1665 on: September 09, 2015, 10:06:28 am »
oh sports threads...
you'd think the music related ones would have more traffic on a message board associated with a Music club???
Oh, not you too, Sidehatch. I'm so sick of this refrain; it's not based in any reality.

Here are the sports threads in the first two pages of the forum:
Thread                     Total Posts                Age In Years           Avg Posts Per Year
Nats Thread                854                                9                               94.8
Fantasy Football          863                                8                              107.875
NFL                            231                                 9                              25.6
Survivor Pool              179                                 2                              89.5
Orioles                        799                                2                              399.5

Sports Total              2926                                                              717.275


Here are the music threads in the first two pages of the forum:
Thread                     Total Posts                Age In Years           Avg Posts Per Year
JA                              36060                             12                             3005
Low ticket                     188                               4                              47
JA Commentary           3805                               4                              951.25
Rollcall                        7586                               7                              1083.71
Post Show Banter        1590                               3                              530
Golden Years                283                                1                              283
Musicological                1312                               3                             437.33
JA NYC                         746                                3                             248.66
Showlist                       297                                3                              99
2015 Albums                203                                1                              203

Music Total                52070                                                             6887.95

Stop it, everyone. This talking point is dead.
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Re: random . . . randomness
« Reply #1666 on: September 09, 2015, 10:40:59 am »
Julian, everyone knows if you like sports you have terrible taste in music. Come on.
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Re: random . . . randomness
« Reply #1667 on: September 09, 2015, 12:28:48 pm »
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Re: random . . . randomness
« Reply #1668 on: September 09, 2015, 04:30:43 pm »
oh sports threads...
you'd think the music related ones would have more traffic on a message board associated with a Music club???
Oh, not you too, Sidehatch. I'm so sick of this refrain; it's not based in any reality.

Here are the sports threads in the first two pages of the forum:
Thread                     Total Posts                Age In Years           Avg Posts Per Year
Nats Thread                854                                9                               94.8
Fantasy Football          863                                8                              107.875
NFL                            231                                 9                              25.6
Survivor Pool              179                                 2                              89.5
Orioles                        799                                2                              399.5

Sports Total              2926                                                              717.275


Here are the music threads in the first two pages of the forum:
Thread                     Total Posts                Age In Years           Avg Posts Per Year
JA                              36060                             12                             3005
Low ticket                     188                               4                              47
JA Commentary           3805                               4                              951.25
Rollcall                        7586                               7                              1083.71
Post Show Banter        1590                               3                              530
Golden Years                283                                1                              283
Musicological                1312                               3                             437.33
JA NYC                         746                                3                             248.66
Showlist                       297                                3                              99
2015 Albums                203                                1                              203

Music Total                52070                                                             6887.95

Stop it, everyone. This talking point is dead.

You 'statistics' are invalid.  Summing averages is a meaningless measure. The more meaningful numbers would be this...


Thread                     Total Posts                Age In Years           Avg Posts Per Year
Nats Thread                854                                9                               95
Fantasy Football          863                                8                              108
NFL                            231                                 9                              26
Survivor Pool              179                                 2                              90
Orioles                        799                                2                              400

Sports Total              2926                               30                               98


Thread                     Total Posts                Age In Years           Avg Posts Per Year
JA                              36060                             12                             3005
Low ticket                     188                               4                              47
JA Commentary           3805                               4                              951
Rollcall                        7586                               7                              1084
Post Show Banter        1590                               3                              530
Golden Years                283                                1                              283
Musicological                1312                               3                             437
JA NYC                         746                                3                             249
Showlist                       297                                3                              99
2015 Albums                203                                1                              203

Music Total                52070                             41                              1270


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Re: random . . . randomness
« Reply #1669 on: September 09, 2015, 04:34:39 pm »
You 'statistics' are invalid.  Summing averages is a meaningless measure. The more meaningful numbers would be this...


Thread                     Total Posts                Age In Years           Avg Posts Per Year
Nats Thread                854                                9                               95
Fantasy Football          863                                8                              108
NFL                            231                                 9                              26
Survivor Pool              179                                 2                              90
Orioles                        799                                2                              400

Sports Total              2926                               30                               98


Thread                     Total Posts                Age In Years           Avg Posts Per Year
JA                              36060                             12                             3005
Low ticket                     188                               4                              47
JA Commentary           3805                               4                              951
Rollcall                        7586                               7                              1084
Post Show Banter        1590                               3                              530
Golden Years                283                                1                              283
Musicological                1312                               3                             437
JA NYC                         746                                3                             249
Showlist                       297                                3                              99
2015 Albums                203                                1                              203

Music Total                52070                             41                              1270

What? That's laughably terrible statistical analysis. You can't sum Thread Age in Years for sports and music and divide the total by that. You seriously are positing that we post only 98 posts about sports per year?
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Re: random . . . randomness
« Reply #1670 on: September 09, 2015, 04:39:47 pm »
Let me give you a simpler example to show why your method is inane. Let's say there are two threads that are each two years old, and one has 800 posts and the other 2. By my methodology, I would compute that those two threads are averaging as a group 401 posts per year. By your methodology, you'd say it's 200.5.

I'm not saying my methodology is perfect (for one thing, it's limited only to threads in the top two pages, it presumes all posts in a thread are on-topic, and it estimates years as integers) but yours is literally insane. You cannot count up a total number of posts and divide by the combined thread ages of all those threads, namely since the time of many overlaps. You can't divide 52070 by 41 years and think that number is at all relevant. The board is only 12 years old!
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Re: random . . . randomness
« Reply #1671 on: September 09, 2015, 04:44:55 pm »
uh oh..stats.. not my strong suit (along with logic)

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Re: random . . . randomness
« Reply #1672 on: September 09, 2015, 04:46:55 pm »
uh oh..stats.. not my strong suit (along with logic)

I plead the fifth
Let me make it simple for those who don't like statistics: RatBastard estimates we, as a group, post 98 posts (not threads, individual posts) about sports per year, about 1.6 per week. I estimate it at 1270, or about 4 sports related posts per day. Which seems more in line with what you've seen?
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Re: random . . . randomness
« Reply #1673 on: September 09, 2015, 04:48:05 pm »
your reasoning is fat.
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Re: random . . . randomness
« Reply #1674 on: September 09, 2015, 04:49:31 pm »
your reasoning is fat.
I mean, am I wrong here? If you're going to show up and dismiss someone's analysis as invalid, you can't throw out something as nuts as RatBastard's numbers.
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Re: random . . . randomness
« Reply #1675 on: September 09, 2015, 04:51:50 pm »
I don't care what you post so long as you post it in the proper thread.
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Re: random . . . randomness
« Reply #1676 on: September 09, 2015, 05:10:49 pm »
well, the sports things come in spurts...thankfully music is a 365 day thing

also, the JA thread...has surprisingly little content...but skews the results sooo much
you also left out the North of the border and eve of a new season and break up the nats threads
as well as playoff threads

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Re: random . . . randomness
« Reply #1677 on: September 09, 2015, 05:21:38 pm »
your reasoning is fat.
I mean, am I wrong here? If you're going to show up and dismiss someone's analysis as invalid, you can't throw out something as nuts as RatBastard's numbers.

Yes, you are wrong.  RatBastard's numbers say that we're getting 98 posts per thread per year, not 98 total.

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« Reply #1678 on: September 09, 2015, 05:24:34 pm »
your reasoning is fat.
I mean, am I wrong here? If you're going to show up and dismiss someone's analysis as invalid, you can't throw out something as nuts as RatBastard's numbers.

i have no actual opinion on your or RB's statistical reasoning, i just wanted to fat-hate.

felt good.  i see why you do it.
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Re: random . . . randomness
« Reply #1679 on: September 09, 2015, 05:27:09 pm »
your reasoning is fat.
I mean, am I wrong here? If you're going to show up and dismiss someone's analysis as invalid, you can't throw out something as nuts as RatBastard's numbers.

Yes, you are wrong.  RatBastard's numbers say that we're getting 98 posts per thread per year, not 98 total.
that is demonstrably not how he's labeled it. it's also a meaningless number since there are more music threads. Had he taken the mean of each group of threads ages, he'd have something approaching usable. Since time is variable, you have to normalize it. His numbers are terrible.
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