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Re: random . . . randomness
« Reply #2055 on: December 02, 2015, 12:34:35 pm »
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« Reply #2056 on: December 02, 2015, 01:10:09 pm »
What sense does it make to have expensive health insurance plus supplemental health insurance (as if your health was important to you), but then smoke 2 packs a day?  Do you have insurance so you can smoke 2 packs a day?  Better off not smoking and having basic coverage.

based on the black and white logic you present in your last sentence, i take it you have never dealt with addiction. 

Addiction is horrible.  It is pernicious and can be debilitating.  It makes you feel like you have no control.  Addicts benefit from intervention and therapy, and they would benefit from having insurance that covers those things too.

Addictions can deteriorate your health.  Some quickly, some slowly.  On a theoretical level, you'd be better off not being an addict than having to rely on insurance to restore your health.

Many addictions have a significant behavioral aspect.  Learning (or relearning!) that you are in control of your behaviors and that you make the choice to act in your own best interest is surprisingly difficult.  Nobody can do that for you; you have to do that yourself. 

Once you gain that level of self control and self awareness, the addiction can be more easily managed.  If you need cognitive behavioral therapy in order to make those gains, then you should probably make sure you get the right kind of coverage for that.  You can, essentially, do CBT on your own, but it takes determination and will.

FWIW, the word "Better" indicates a comparative or relative relationship, not a black-and-white one.

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« Reply #2057 on: December 02, 2015, 02:41:15 pm »
clearly you have an very solid understanding of addiction. folks who smoke cigarettes, or are addicted to any other substance, aren't making economically rational decisions.  if they were, they'd realize how much smoking costs and decide they'd be "better off" saving that money.

an addict who takes out extra health insurance makes sense, in a perverted way.  they know they're ruining their health, are/believe they are powerless do stop the behavior, so they're doing the next best thing: preparing for the inevitable.  not smoking and saving on insurance is ideal, but smoking + good insurance is better than smoking + little or no insurance, isn't it?
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« Reply #2058 on: December 02, 2015, 02:52:14 pm »
I'm glad we agree :)

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« Reply #2059 on: December 02, 2015, 03:37:24 pm »
What sense does it make to have expensive health insurance plus supplemental health insurance (as if your health was important to you), but then smoke 2 packs a day?  Do you have insurance so you can smoke 2 packs a day?  Better off not smoking and having basic coverage.

based on the black and white logic you present in your last sentence, i take it you have never dealt with addiction. 

Addiction is horrible.  It is pernicious and can be debilitating.  It makes you feel like you have no control.  Addicts benefit from intervention and therapy, and they would benefit from having insurance that covers those things too.

Addictions can deteriorate your health.  Some quickly, some slowly.  On a theoretical level, you'd be better off not being an addict than having to rely on insurance to restore your health.

Many addictions have a significant behavioral aspect.  Learning (or relearning!) that you are in control of your behaviors and that you make the choice to act in your own best interest is surprisingly difficult.  Nobody can do that for you; you have to do that yourself. 

Once you gain that level of self control and self awareness, the addiction can be more easily managed.  If you need cognitive behavioral therapy in order to make those gains, then you should probably make sure you get the right kind of coverage for that.  You can, essentially, do CBT on your own, but it takes determination and will.

FWIW, the word "Better" indicates a comparative or relative relationship, not a black-and-white one.

There is a big difference between "addictions" and the disease of "addiction".  Stop confusing the two.
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Re: random . . . randomness
« Reply #2060 on: December 02, 2015, 03:39:44 pm »
Please school us.

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« Reply #2061 on: December 02, 2015, 03:48:35 pm »
RB was thinking you fell off the face of the earth
only 3 posts total since sept
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« Reply #2062 on: December 02, 2015, 04:19:51 pm »

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« Reply #2063 on: December 02, 2015, 08:28:35 pm »
a little clean up has been done... take note please...
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« Reply #2064 on: December 02, 2015, 08:55:59 pm »
FFS Alabama...

Leaked Documents Reveal Dothan Police Department Planted Drugs on Young Black Men For Years, District Attorney Doug Valeska Complicit

http://henrycountyreport.com/blog/2015/12/01/leaked-documents-reveal-dothan-police-department-planted-drugs-on-young-black-men-for-years-district-attorney-doug-valeska-complicit/

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A group of up to a dozen police officers on a specialized narcotics team were found to have planted drugs and weapons on young black men for years. They were supervised at the time by Lt. Steve Parrish, current Dothan Police Chief, and Sgt. Andy Hughes, current Asst. Director of Homeland Security for the State of Alabama. All of the officers reportedly were members of a Neoconfederate organization that the Southern Poverty Law Center labels ?racial extremists.? The group has advocated for blacks to ?return? to Africa, published that the civil rights movement is really a Jewish conspiracy, and that blacks have lower IQ?s . Both Parrish and Hughes held leadership positions in the group and are pictured above holding a confederate battle flag at one of the club?s secret meetings.

The documents shared reveal that the internal affairs investigation was covered up to protect the aforementioned officers? law enforcement careers and keep them from being criminally prosecuted.

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The officers believe that there are currently nearly a thousand wrongful convictions resulting in felonies from the 20th Judicial District that are tied to planted drugs and weapons and question whether a system that allows this can be allowed to continue to operate.
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« Reply #2065 on: December 03, 2015, 09:35:36 am »

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« Reply #2066 on: December 03, 2015, 11:17:05 am »
FFS Alabama...

Leaked Documents Reveal Dothan Police Department Planted Drugs on Young Black Men For Years, District Attorney Doug Valeska Complicit

http://henrycountyreport.com/blog/2015/12/01/leaked-documents-reveal-dothan-police-department-planted-drugs-on-young-black-men-for-years-district-attorney-doug-valeska-complicit/

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A group of up to a dozen police officers on a specialized narcotics team were found to have planted drugs and weapons on young black men for years. They were supervised at the time by Lt. Steve Parrish, current Dothan Police Chief, and Sgt. Andy Hughes, current Asst. Director of Homeland Security for the State of Alabama. All of the officers reportedly were members of a Neoconfederate organization that the Southern Poverty Law Center labels ?racial extremists.? The group has advocated for blacks to ?return? to Africa, published that the civil rights movement is really a Jewish conspiracy, and that blacks have lower IQ?s . Both Parrish and Hughes held leadership positions in the group and are pictured above holding a confederate battle flag at one of the club?s secret meetings.

The documents shared reveal that the internal affairs investigation was covered up to protect the aforementioned officers? law enforcement careers and keep them from being criminally prosecuted.

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The officers believe that there are currently nearly a thousand wrongful convictions resulting in felonies from the 20th Judicial District that are tied to planted drugs and weapons and question whether a system that allows this can be allowed to continue to operate.

that is mind-blowing... and i haven't heard a single whisper about this in mainstream news.  amazing.
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Re: random . . . randomness
« Reply #2067 on: December 03, 2015, 11:37:53 am »

like hockey, this event is traditionally dominated by canadians ;D
 
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« Reply #2068 on: December 03, 2015, 11:44:22 am »
Canada rocks.. sometimes I wish I lived there...

I mean they are taking 25,000 Syrian refugees...no issues...when was the last time we heard of a mass shooting up there????. meanwhile we're here pussying it up...and we do have problems with shootings every day.

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« Reply #2069 on: December 03, 2015, 11:48:27 am »
Canada rocks.. sometimes I wish I lived there...
yeah but it's cold and you are surrounded by....Canadians  ;D
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