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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: hutch on June 08, 2020, 09:55:54 am
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This is the decade I should really know but going to have to think of two acts in addition to Nirvana...
Even though Nirvana was only around a few years they really set the table..
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I think I will add the Beastie Boys leaving me one choice to be determined
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For my third choice I have to pick a Matador Records act and will go with Pavement
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oops wrong decade...
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Oasis \ Blur
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Oasis \ Blur
I prefer Blur but it’s hard to argue against the absolutely domination Oasis had in Europe for the majority of the decade.
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Wanckers the whole lot of them
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Oasis \ Blur
I prefer Blur but it’s hard to argue against the absolutely domination Oasis had in Europe for the majority of the decade.
yeah I'm definitely team Blur, but Oasis had a bigger impact at the time. and a lot of the Oasis vs Blur was defined by their roots working class verses art school, which is less important here than in the UK.
i want to add Ash \ Supergrass but neither of them rose to the level those two were. Belle & Sebastian arrived a little late to rule the 90s.
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Is this where I post that Ron Perlman guy?
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Is this where I post that Ron Perlman guy?
Yes, because all of the bands above didn't own shit in the 90s.
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Maybe Nirvana... But that was short lived.
I'll go with Dr. Dre and Metallica
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I agree with Yada. Dr. Dre definitely for rap; there's be no Snoopy without Dre. Metallica for rock. I'd say Pearl Jam for alternative.
I can't decide on the development of neosoul we saw in the 90's-Mary J Blige? Maxwell?
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Guys, it’s Garth Brooks. /thread
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Maybe could make good case for Radiohead and Dr Dre
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Maybe could make good case for Radiohead and Dr Dre
Minus the part where it’s Garth Brooks, yes. You could argue no one owned a decade of modern music MORE than Garth Brooks in the 90s. (I mean, you’d be wrong, it’s the Beatles and the 60s but you could argue it!)
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I don’t know man but achy breaks heart always seemed kind of lame to me
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I don’t know man but achy breaks heart always seemed kind of lame to me
I mean, it's no "So What'Cha Want" that's for sure.
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90s are a tough call.
Nirvana is a lock. Oasis/Blur is a great call. Pearl Jam was still a formidable act at that point. Metallica sucked but we’re massive.
I’ll go Nine Inch Nails. 3 amazing releases that decade which is more than any of the above acts can claim. Massive Attack can claim this as well, tho.
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How can a band like Blur who 99% of the world has no idea who they are be considered for this thread?
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How can a band like Blur who 99% of the world has no idea who they are be considered for this thread?
Song 2
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Woo hoo!!
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How can a band like Blur who 99% of the world has no idea who they are be considered for this thread?
Song 2
So one song that was heavily used for adverts qualifies the band for owning the 90s?
I change my answer to Fatboy Slim and Moby.
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Sorry Oasis strongly over Blur as far as song recognition by the average Josephine.
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How can a band like Blur who 99% of the world has no idea who they are be considered for this thread?
two reasons:
1) denizens of this board have their heads so far up their own asses they don't realize what they're saying, and
2) we never defined what "owned" means. most hits? most recognizable/popular? most influential to other musicians? most albums sold? biggest social impact? longest hair?!?
my reading is that most folks here are either naming most recognizable/popular, or the band(s) they happen to like (because everyone here has impeccable taste, so if they like a band then clearly it must be the best from that era, right?)
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How can a band like Blur who 99% of the world has no idea who they are be considered for this thread?
two reasons:
1) denizens of this board have their heads so far up their own asses they don't realize what they're saying, and
2) we never defined what "owned" means. most hits? most recognizable/popular? most influential to other musicians? most albums sold? biggest social impact? longest hair?!?
my reading is that most folks here are either naming most recognizable/popular, or the band(s) they happen to like (because everyone here has impeccable taste, so if they like a band then clearly it must be the best from that era, right?)
A+, would read again.
Could the creator of this thread make some parameters?
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my reading is that most folks here are either naming most recognizable/popular, or the band(s) they happen to like (because everyone here has impeccable taste, so if they like a band then clearly it must be the best from that era, right?)
I'd say that is what Kozmo is using as his definition of 'owned'
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Hootie and the Blowfish
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The Verve. Forgot about them. Shame on all of us
2 amazing albums and another very good one. Lots of great b-sides and a stellar EP. Likely the best catalog of any artist that decade.
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Uncle Tupelo
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90s are a tough call.
Nirvana is a lock. Oasis/Blur is a great call. Pearl Jam was still a formidable act at that point. Metallica sucked but we’re massive.
I’ll go Nine Inch Nails. 3 amazing releases that decade which is more than any of the above acts can claim. Massive Attack can claim this as well, tho.
Their debut came out in 1991.
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Critical acclaim and influence
Cultural relevance
Popularity (not just raw sales..)
The above are criteria that come to mind
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90s are a tough call.
Nirvana is a lock. Oasis/Blur is a great call. Pearl Jam was still a formidable act at that point. Metallica sucked but we’re massive.
I’ll go Nine Inch Nails. 3 amazing releases that decade which is more than any of the above acts can claim. Massive Attack can claim this as well, tho.
Their debut came out in 1991.
I think he means they did not start their fecund, legacy-act period until the very end of the 90s. I read it the same way you did at first, too.
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Correct. Thanks for clarifying.
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Jesus Jones.
Jesus Jones, motherfuckering owned, the 1990s. Well, the early 90s.
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One take on the 90s
Garth Brooks, 80s Covers and bands with one huge hit owned the 90s. Think Counting Crows, Barenaked Ladies, etc.
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The 90s are tough one because for the first half of the decade R.E.M., the Beastie Boys and U2 were at the peak of their popularity and could be seen as owning the 90s.
I think the 90s were more about scenes verses individual bands\artists. You had BritPop, Madchester, Nu-Metal, Grunge, Indie Rock, Alt-Rock, Gangster Rap, EDM, Shoegazer, Lilith Faire, etc, etc etc...
My takeaway is from the 90s I'm still listening to a lot of BritPop, and 90s Power Pop (Posies, FOW, Tommy Keene, Semisonic).
So which 90s scene owned the 90s? My money is BritPop
p.s. as a sidenote looks a bunch of dudes are just now realizing what Rage Against The Machine have been all about all these years.
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p.s. as a sidenote looks a bunch of dudes are just now realizing what Rage Against The Machine have been all about all these years.
I saw someone whining "Tom, you lost a fan" because RATM was getting political...almost should go in the Onion thread. I really has to hurt to be that stupid
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Although I hated all of it save for Nirvana, I'm not sure how you could argue that anything other than grunge/alternative ruled the 90's here in the good old USA.
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I get not liking Nirvana but anyone who doesn’t have them in there either wasn’t there or is in denial
Although it’s likely if it hadn’t been Nirvana it would have been someone else we can’t really say how it would have gone....
I think bands like Janes and Faith no more set it up so somebody like Nirvana would have blown the doors off things
I think britpop is a fuckin joke..just a creation of the British music rags...Oasis are just ripoff artists...Be Here Now is unlistenable
I will take Pulp and Supergrass over Oasis and Blur any time
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Surprised nobody thought to mention Fugazi
Repeater came out in 1990
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In case my communication was off...Nirvana was the only, or maybe one only a few, grunge/alternative bands i liked in the 90's. They were head and shoulders above the rest for me.
I was into Britpop (New Order, Smiths, Big Audio Dynamite, etc) and to some extent college rock (Replacements, um others but none nearly as much as the Mats) in the 80's...by the time the 90's rolled around, I was tired of "alternative rock" be it British or American, and turned to Americana.
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Surprised nobody thought to mention Fugazi
Repeater came out in 1990
As my wife would say, total music snob band. Like Sleater-Kinney, except with angry, ugly boys. Not music mainstream people would like, outside of one or two of their popiest ditties.
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I was trying to agree with and support your point
I just can’t win for losing (I hope this is an actual phrase)
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Ok - obviously-but you could say the same about the Velvet Underground...
Fugazi/IAN/ Dischord had an outsized influence on the 1990s...Eddie Vedder worshipped them..the DC scene’s tentacles reached into riot girl etc...
If you are just looking at it from the standpoint of who sold more records you’re doing it wrong...everyone agreed Bowie owned the 70s and he hardly sold anything 1975-1979!!
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Ok - obviously-but you could say the same about the Velvet Underground...
Fugazi/IAN/ Dischord had an outsized influence on the 1990s...Eddie Vedder worshipped them..the DC scene’s tentacles reached into riot girl etc...
If you are just looking at it from the standpoint of who sold more records you’re doing it wrong...everyone agreed Bowie owned the 70s and he hardly sold anything 1975-1979!!
And my wife *does* say the same thing about the Velvet Underground, lol. Difference is now i'd probably agree with her to some extent about Fugazi, whereas I'll still listen to VU, though I'd rather listen to Luna.
I loved Fugazi when they first came out. You could like them not just because it was cool to like them like it was cool to like Minor Threat, but also because their music was pretty good. But i was in my early 20's. Loud with a little bit of tunefulness was good enough for me then. Now I need hooks with my loud guitars, like the Hold Steady.
I guess it depends on *who* the artists are owning. Yes, Fugazi had an outsized influence on music snobs and other musicians. Same with Velvets and Bowie, though that's harder for me to say, because that was during my Bay City Rollers period. I didn't discover either of them until i became a pseudo music snob.
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You call it pseudo music snob I call it having some taste
But it’s a side issue you are introducing as you do all the time which makes it impossible to have a conversation
Focus dude
I believe Fugazi had like a ton of preorders for their stuff...they were bypassing radio, MTV and selling quite a bit...
It’s just not true to say they were a music snob band
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Has anyone mentioned another terrible band, Smashing Pumpkins?
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Pumpkins aren’t even a real band as far as I am concerned
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Pumpkins aren’t even a real band as far as I am concerned
Definitely not a music snob band, except maybe during the Gish era.
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who owned the 90's?
bill clinton.
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I don’t know man I have a cd of him “playing” sax in Prague and it ain’t Coltrane
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(https://img.discogs.com/wWD--r_bPOv_48u4d9CkZnPssHY=/fit-in/500x498/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-4837699-1476242598-3814.jpeg.jpg)
Y'all forgot?
(I think I had an autographed promo copy of this at some time)
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So Roger not Bill owned it!
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Apparently the correct answer is Celine Dion
https://pudding.cool/2020/07/song-decay/
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I'd say that it wasn't a particular band per se, but more of a movement...and I'd call it the Lollapalooza decade, even if Lolla only lasted 7 years and burned itself out by 1997. Nirvana single-handedly created the footprint that would impact the decade commercially and musically, but it was Jane's Addiction that really started to draw over the metalheads to alternative music and that became important to how many records a band could sell, and Perry who brought the flood of "college" rock to the masses. (I'd love to know how many people bought Use Your Illusion and the Black Album, but also Nevermind and Core. I'm guessing quite a lot.) But most of the biggest bands of the decade played Lolla. Pearl Jam, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Nine Inch Nails, Smashing Pumpkins, Beastie Boys, Tool, Metallica, Soundgarden, Alice in Chains, Stone Temple Pilots, Green Day, Sonic Youth, Hole, Pavement...and there was also a representation of hip hop, which needs to be highlighted. A Tribe Called Quest, Ice Cube, Ice T, Snoop Dogg, and Cypress Hill. By the late 90's, pop was ruling again as well as nu metal. I can't really say that there was a Prince or a David Bowie, artists who constantly evolved and released record after brilliant record.
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Garth Brooks
FTFY
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I think Janes was important as was Faith No More in paving the way...
I wish I had a list of all the MTV buzz bin videos in 1990....that’s what set the stage
FNM Epic was huge on buzz bin as was Janes Been Caught Stealing
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I will say 1997 was a really good year, I'm sure there are a few off this list. I still listen to 7-8 of these regularly
SPIN's 20 Best Albums of 1997
20. The Prodigy - The Fat of the Land
19. Wu-Tang Clan - Wu-Tang Forever
18. Belle & Sebastian - If You're Feeling Sinister
17. Geraldine Fibbers - Butch
16. Daft Punk - Homework
15. Janet Jackson - The Velvet Rope
14. Various Artists -Various Artists - Return of the D.J. Vol. II
13. Roni Size & Reprazent - New Forms
12. Erykah Badu - Baduizm
11. Pavement - Brighten the Corners
10. The Chemical Brothers - Dig Your Own Hole
9. Missy Elliott - Supa Dupa Fly
8. Yo La Tengo - I Can Hear the Heart Beating as One
7. The Notorious B.I.G. - Life After Death
6. Portishead - Portishead
5. Bob Dylan - Time Out of Mind
4. Björk - Homogenic
3. Sleater-Kinney - Dig Me Out
2. Radiohead - OK Computer
1. Cornershop - When I Was Born for the 7th Time
Had never heard this and quite enjoying it
14. Various Artists -Various Artists - Return of the D.J. Vol. II
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Garth Brooks
FTFY