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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: sonickteam2 on September 29, 2005, 04:14:00 pm
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come on October is pretty much here people....
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go padres!!!!! they should really just start jake peavy every game.
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
go padres!!!!! they should really just start jake peavy every game.
the Padres are like that team in NCAA basketball from some rinky dink conference who went 14-16 but had a dramatic 3-pointer in the conference tourney final to get into the dance.
sure, its all warm and fuzzy, but wait til they go to Turner Field for the NLDS.....byebye daddies!
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So who will St. Louis be matched up with in the first round?
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A lifelong hatred of the Yankees (I grew up as a much abused Mets fan in NJ) has turned me into the world's biggest Red Sox fan for the next four days. This is going to be a really exciting weekend. Go Sox!
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Originally posted by Xavier Bush, Power Forward:
So who will St. Louis be matched up with in the first round?
the padres, cant play within the same division in the first round
perfect timing, right when the cardinals pitching is falling apart
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Originally posted by pip:
A lifelong hatred of the Yankees (I grew up as a much abused Mets fan in NJ) has turned me into the world's biggest Red Sox fan for the next four days. This is going to be a really exciting weekend. Go Sox!
You'll be disappointed for sure :(
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baseball?
i prefer to knit in my spare time, thank you very much.
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
Originally posted by pip:
A lifelong hatred of the Yankees (I grew up as a much abused Mets fan in NJ) has turned me into the world's biggest Red Sox fan for the next four days. This is going to be a really exciting weekend. Go Sox!
You'll be disappointed for sure :( [/b]
perhaps
actually, if you rooting for Boston, this is THE weekend say "Go Sox" because even if Boston can't beat the Yankees, a White Sox ass-whoopin' on the Tribe could sneak Boston into the backdoor of the playoffs again....and hopefully another series with the Orange County Angels or whatever they're calling themselves this week...
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cards padres....unless the phillies can somehow get in...then its cards phillies...
GO BRAVES!!!
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that HR by david ortiz last night ... man, fantastic stuff
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Originally posted by HoyaParanoia:
that HR by david ortiz last night ... man, fantastic stuff
David Ortiz is god!
last night when it was 4-1 my neighbor told me if the Sox came back and won, he would bring a case of Sam Adams over for the game tonight.
after Papi's HR in the 9th, he offered double or nothing that Papi couldnt win it in the 9th.
imma have me lots of beer tonight! :)
bring on the empire!!!!
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As long as the Yankees get knocked out of the playoffs, I'll be happy.
Did anyone read that bullcrap commentary the NYT columist wrote about O's fans? My husband wrote a great letter back to him
Here it is, if you haven't:
September 28, 2005
Baseball Should Investigate the Orioles for Fraud
By WILLIAM C. RHODEN
BALTIMORE
WHILE Commissioner Bud Selig is investigating steroids and vitamin
B-12, he should also investigate the Baltimore Orioles - for consumer
fraud.
Until last night, when they finally beat the Yankees, the Orioles had
been the embarrassment of the stretch drive. While the Mets, the
Royals, the Tigers, the Blue Jays and the Devil Rays have done their
part to upset the contenders, the Orioles have been the pin cushion of
the playoff race, the American League punching bag, a runway for the
Red Sox and the Yankees, a trampoline boosting aspirations in Boston
and New York.
Toronto is pushing the contenders, the Mets have handed Philadelphia
crushing losses, Detroit beat the White Sox, and even Kansas City, the
team with the worst record in baseball, handed Cleveland a loss on
Sunday. To add to the intrigue, perennially downtrodden Tampa Bay beat
Cleveland last night.
Before yesterday's victory, Baltimore had lost 10 consecutive games to
the Yankees and the Red Sox, four of them at Camden Yards, the place
the Orioles marginally call home.
What's so bizarre about this is that Baltimore has ceded its ballpark
to New York and Boston. Last weekend, Red Sox fans were so prevalent
here that it looked as if they had rented out Camden Yards for a
private party.
Now Yankees fans attempted to take over Oriole Park.
Last night, the Orioles and their fans took back Camden Yards. Just
when the Yankees appeared to be on cruise control, the Orioles
reminded them that they still have gaping holes in their pitching
staff.
Baltimore is suffering through its eighth consecutive losing season.
Next year, Peter Angelos should consider putting his Orioles on the
road full time - the baseball equivalent of the New Orleans Saints -
and lease Camden Yards to other Major League Baseball teams.
Don't the Washington Nationals need a slicker place to play?
We all have bad days. We run some races we'll never win. Until
yesterday's victory, the Orioles seemed to be packing it in. Alex
Rodriguez said he sympathized with the Orioles. He has been there
plenty of times with the Texas Rangers and the Seattle Mariners.
"I've been on teams that were knocked out by June 1," he said. "It's
really a mental grind - the toughest thing I've had to do as a
professional is being knocked out of the race so early and still have
to go out and play the way you're capable of playing."
Sam Perlozzo, the Orioles' interim manager, said: "It's sad. You know
the Boston fans are going to come down because they can't get tickets
in Fenway. But they wouldn't come rushing down here if we were better.
First of all, they couldn't get the tickets because our people
wouldn't sell them. We need to get that back in order somehow."
The Orioles' season is lost, but the integrity of the competition
still matters, the pride in knocking a contender out of the race.
"We spoiled a lot of parties," said Rodriguez, recalling his seasons
in Texas, "and it was fun doing it. I remember knocking Seattle out
one year, we made it really tough on Oakland and Anaheim, and it was a
big thrill."
But these Orioles aren't ruining any parties, and until yesterday they
didn't seem to mind. I know this sounds harsh. The Orioles began so
hot but then fell apart, and in early August the integrity of the
organization was shaken when Rafael Palmeiro tested positive for
steroids after testifying before a Congressional panel that he never
had used performance-enhancing drugs.
Last week, the Orioles were jolted by disclosures that Palmeiro told
investigators that a substance Miguel Tejada had given him was a
possible cause of the positive test. Tejada said that he had given
Palmeiro vitamin B-12 injections, and the Orioles then announced that
Palmeiro would not return to the club this season.
"These people have been through so much this year," Rodriguez said.
"These guys, today, are dying to kick our butts. Nobody here is laying
down for anyone."
A franchise can have a bad season or two or three. But the Orioles
have been overcome by a culture of losing.
Angelos resisted the move to Washington by the franchise formerly
known as the Montreal Expos. In fact, the presence of the Nationals
will make him work to rebuild his franchise's credibility. The
Nationals have an exciting young team that, until the last two weeks,
was in contention for the wild card.
But Palmeiro, in some ways the face of the Orioles' franchise, was
disgraced and driven from the team, and perhaps from baseball.
Maryland Gov. Robert L. Ehrlich Jr. took batting practice and infield
practice yesterday. A native of the Baltimore suburbs, even he knows
the Orioles' predicament is terrible.
"It's frustrating and it's embarrassing," Ehrlich said. "It's not
terribly surprising given the season that we've had."
So how does Angelos regain the glory of a once-proud franchise?
Perhaps he should sell it.
As a result of the Orioles' lack of effort down the stretch, the Red
Sox and the Yankees have a full head of steam heading into a weekend
series in Boston that could prove pivotal.
There's even the possibility of a one-game playoff between the Red Sox
and the Yankees. If that happens, Major League Baseball should play
the game here, at Camden Yards, where Red Sox and Yankees fans feel
comfortable.
Camden Yards is everybody's home away from home.
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boswell has pretty much been saying the same thing about the o's and angelos all year (in the case of angelos, for a few years now). the way angelos has run that team into the ground since he bought it is a shame.
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so tonight is not only my first time seeing the nationals play (cool that it is the inaugural season, and the tickets look all cool) but it is my first live pro baseball ball game. i've seen basketball, football, golf, but not baseball for some reason. what should i expect? are the national going to dominate the phillies? or the other way around? do certain innings primary become the "go look at the stadium and find the beer and bathrooms?" just curious.
it will be nice to see rfk . . . in what might be one last time, goodnight.
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I have a feeling Mr. Ortiz is not gonna make this thing easy for us this weekend. :(
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
I have a feeling Mr. Ortiz is not gonna make this thing easy for us this weekend. :(
i keep wondering when he's gonna run out of those clutch hits....has to happen sooner or later i suppose.
i just hope, if nothing else, we can get another Varitek/Rodriguez bout!
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Originally posted by sonickteam, forum nice guy:
i keep wondering when he's gonna run out of those clutch hits....has to happen sooner or later i suppose.
i just hope, if nothing else, we can get another Varitek/Rodriguez bout! [/QB]
I must admit, these last two years he's been like a super hero. I think if he'd have a better percentage of games at first base, he'd be an easy lock for MVP. Now the MVP will probably be decided on which team wins this weekend.
I'm hoping for a Varitek/A-Rod scuffle also, considering how easily A-Rod picked him up off the ground last year. ;)
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
I'm hoping for a Varitek/A-Rod scuffle also, considering how easily A-Rod picked him up off the ground last year. ;)
almost as easily as he smacked the ball out of Arroyo's hand!!! hehehe.
i still think we'll both get in cause Cleveland......ehhhh
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
I have a feeling Mr. Ortiz is not gonna make this thing easy for us this weekend. :(
If he doesn't get the Bonds treatment this weekend it will be the Yankees arrogance that cost them the Division and possibly a spot in the playoffs. And nobody's going to feel sorry for them.
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Originally posted by sonickteam, forum nice guy:
i still think we'll both get in cause Cleveland......ehhhh [/QB]
I think Cleveland's got it easier, I don't see Chicago playing a whole lot of their starters all three games, oh wait, are we still all fighting for home field? I think Chicago is pretty comfy right now. Cleveland might actually sneak in because we're too busy beating up on each other. If the Sox take two out of three, chances are both of us will make it.......GO SOX...LOL
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Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
I have a feeling Mr. Ortiz is not gonna make this thing easy for us this weekend. :(
If he doesn't get the Bonds treatment this weekend it will be the Yankees arrogance that cost them the Division and possibly a spot in the playoffs. And nobody's going to feel sorry for them. [/b]
right.
walk the MVP to pitch to a first ballot hall of famer.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
If he doesn't get the Bonds treatment this weekend it will be the Yankees arrogance that cost them the Division and possibly a spot in the playoffs. And nobody's going to feel sorry for them. [/QB]
Only problem with that is you have Manny hitting behind him, who did Bonds have? Alphonzo? Small difference there. The one good thing is we'll be throwing a lefty at him on Saturday. I'm pretty nervous about Wang pitching tonight.
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
GO SOX
:eek: :eek:
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Originally posted by sonickteam, forum nice guy:
walk the MVP to pitch to a first ballot hall of famer. [/QB]
Holy Smoke, we agreed on something.....I believe hell has finally frozen over.
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Originally posted by sonickteam, forum nice guy:
Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
GO SOX
:)
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Originally posted by sonickteam, forum nice guy:
walk the MVP to pitch to a first ballot hall of famer.
Well, you HAVE to know what the MVP is going to do to you. At least with Manny you have a shot.
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
The one good thing is we'll be throwing a lefty at him on Saturday. I'm pretty nervous about Wang pitching tonight.
tonight is the game we HAVE to win, in my opinion. we really cant put ourselves in the position of
a) we need to beat Randy Johnson
or
b) we need Curt Schilling to win
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
Originally posted by sonickteam, forum nice guy:
walk the MVP to pitch to a first ballot hall of famer. [/b]
Holy Smoke, we agreed on something.....I believe hell has finally frozen over. [/QB]
we both like AC/DC too dont we?
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Originally posted by sonickteam, forum nice guy:
Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
The one good thing is we'll be throwing a lefty at him on Saturday. I'm pretty nervous about Wang pitching tonight.
tonight is the game we HAVE to win, in my opinion. we really cant put ourselves in the position of
a) we need to beat Randy Johnson
or
b) we need Curt Schilling to win [/b]
I agree, you don't want a must win against Randy, he's been pitching great lately. But the positive is you have Mussina Sunday who couldnt even go two innings against the Orioles last time out. So tonight IS a must win for you. We'll have to bring the bats to win this one, isn't gonna be no 2-1 score.
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Racist.
Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
I'm pretty nervous about Wang pitching tonight. [/QB]
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Originally posted by sonickteam, forum nice guy:
Holy Smoke, we agreed on something.....I believe hell has finally frozen over. [/QB]
we both like AC/DC too dont we? [/QB][/QUOTE]
I think Motley Crue also, or did you go just to say you've seen them?
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Originally posted by sonickteam, forum nice guy:
Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
Originally posted by pip:
A lifelong hatred of the Yankees (I grew up as a much abused Mets fan in NJ) has turned me into the world's biggest Red Sox fan for the next four days. This is going to be a really exciting weekend. Go Sox!
You'll be disappointed for sure :( [/b]
perhaps
actually, if you rooting for Boston, this is THE weekend say "Go Sox" because even if Boston can't beat the Yankees, a White Sox ass-whoopin' on the Tribe could sneak Boston into the backdoor of the playoffs again....and hopefully another series with the Orange County Angels or whatever they're calling themselves this week... [/b]
Honestly, I'm more interested in seeing the Yankees lose, than to see the Red Sox win. But I know nothing will irritate all of my friends that are Yankees fans more than to be prevented from making the playoffs by the Red Sox, which is why I'll cheer loudly for the Sox. The Yankees winning the division and the Red Sox making it as a wildcard will not satisfy me. Perhaps I'm just petty and bitter, but that's what the years of torture that I've had to endure will do to you.
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Actually the odds of the second place team making the wildcard are pretty slim. Cleveland has to get swept. I'm just not sure that's going to happen they way they've been playing lately. A good weekend for games for sure.
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Originally posted by redsock:
Actually the odds of the second place team making the wildcard are pretty slim. Cleveland has to get swept. I'm just not sure that's going to happen they way they've been playing lately. A good weekend for games for sure.
Well, the Yankees are one up on Cleveland, so If they win one game, it's looking good for at least a wild card. But Cleveland has more to play for than the White Sox, but isn't Elarton pitching on Sunday? Oyyyy for them.
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I'll be flying to Anaheim tomorrow, so I won't get time to enlighten you all with my theories. Instead, I'll just make my predictions:
DIVISION SERIES
Angels in 4
Red Sox in 5
Cards in 5
Astros in 5
CHAMPIONSHIP SERIES
Angels in 6
Astros in 6
WORLD SERIES
Angels in 6
MVP: Chone Figgins
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DIVISION SERIES
Yankees in 5
White Sox in 4
Cardinals in 4
Astros in 5
CHAMPIONSHIP SERIES
White Sox in 6
Cardinals in 6
WORLD SERIES
Cardinals in 6
MVP: Albert Pujols
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You was wrong, young lady.
Originally posted by redsock:
Actually the odds of the second place team making the wildcard are pretty slim. Cleveland has to get swept. I'm just not sure that's going to happen they way they've been playing lately. A good weekend for games for sure.
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i am going to pick too
Red Sox in 3
Yankees in 4
Padres in 5
Braves in 4
Red Sox in 6
Braves in 7
Braves in 6
MVP - Andruw Jones
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White Sox in four
Angels in five
Cards in four
Astros in five
Angels in six
Cards in six
Cards in six
MVP: Pujols
Though I'd prefer a White Sox/Cards series.
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Edmonds goes deep, i just got less nervous, a little early i know
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Originally posted by Xavier Bush, Power Forward:
MVP: Pujols
can i have the country of origin again?
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Originally posted by sonickteam, forum nice guy:
can i have the country of origin again?
huh?
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Originally posted by sonickteam, forum nice guy:
i am going to pick too
Red Sox in 3
Yankees in 4
Padres in 5
Braves in 4
Red Sox in 6
Braves in 7
Braves in 6
MVP - Andruw Jones
*knocks on wood*
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Originally posted by p011@rd:
Originally posted by sonickteam, forum nice guy:
can i have the country of origin again?
huh? [/b]
apparently you missed the espn commercial.
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
apparently you missed the espn commercial.
i guess so
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Gee, thanks for the meats, but I think the largest city in America could do a little better. Anaheim certainly didn't go cheap.
ANAHEIM MAYOR ANNOUNCES FRIENDLY WAGER WITH NEW YORK'S MAYOR BLOOMBERG
ANAHEIM, Calif. - (October 4, 2005) - Continuing the tradition started three years ago when the Anaheim Angels won the World Series, Anaheim Mayor Curt Pringle and New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg have agreed to a friendly wager as the New York Yankees and Angels prepare to meet in the American League Division Series today.
"We look forward to a hard-fought series against the American League East Division Champion New York Yankees and congratulate them on their success this season," said Anaheim Mayor Curt Pringle. "But, we're confident that the Angels will benefit from having the Anaheim home field advantage and ultimately prevail against the Yankees as they did in 2002."
"I hear Anaheim is lovely this time of year, but is there anything better than October baseball at Yankee Stadium?" said Mayor Bloomberg.
"This year's team is like all the great Yankee teams - they never quit.
But if, on account of some fluke, or owing to some fallen angel, Anaheim comes out on top, I will send some of New York's best to the people of Anaheim, including two dozen hot dogs from Nathan's Famous, two pounds each of pastrami, corned beef and brisket, three loaves of jumbo seedless rye bread and two pounds of mustard from Katz's Deli, and two Pizza alla Vodka pies from Goodfella's Brick Oven Pizza and Pasta. And for dessert, one 2.5 gallon container of Lemon Ice from the Lemon Ice King of Corona and plenty of Dominican cake from Parrilla Latina."
If the Angels are unsuccessful in advancing in the playoffs, Mayor Pringle will offer Mayor Bloomberg items that reflect the true spirit of Anaheim and Orange County.
* A crate of Anaheim chile peppers
* A crate of Sunkist California oranges
* Merchandise from Disneyland's 50th Anniversary, including a pair of golden Mickey Mouse ears
* An autographed script from Fox Broadcasting Co.'s hit show "The OC"
* A surfboard from Huntington Beach-based Jack's Surfboards
* A Halo Hybrid Utility Club from Cleveland Golf in Huntington Beach
* $50 in gift certificates from Anaheim-based Pacific Sunwear
* Surf apparel from Newport Beach-based Toes on the Nose
* Sunglasses from San Juan Capistrano-based Hoven Sunglasses
* Swimwear from Newport Beach-based Tyler Rose Swimwear
* A gift basket from Orange County-based Diedrich's Coffee
* A case of boysenberry jam and a bucket of Mrs. Knott's chicken from Knott's Berry Farm
Games One and Two of the series will be played at Angel Stadium of Anaheim, Game Three will be played at Yankee Stadium in New York. Game Four, if necessary, will also be in New York, with the teams returning to Anaheim for Game Five, if necessary.
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Well Smackie I guess the Anaheim mayor is just a little more confident. I'm surprised he didn't promise a case of potato chips.
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i thought i heard that Mayor Pringle offered that if the Angels lost in the ALDS that the team would change their name to the Los Angeles Angels of New York next year...
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Originally posted by sonickteam, forum nice guy:
i thought i heard that Mayor Pringle offered that if the Angels lost in the ALDS that the team would change their name to the Los Angeles Angels of New York next year...
Close. It was the Los Angeles Yankees of Anaheim.
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great win tonight for the angels ... i'm glad the two best teams in the AL are in the LCS, but i know fox isn't happy about no yanks or (red) sox =)
looks like angels / cards to me
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Nice job by Sonick. 0 for 4 in the first round. Meanwhile, I was 4 for 4, thanks very much.
Originally posted by sonickteam, forum nice guy:
i am going to pick too
Red Sox in 3
Yankees in 4
Padres in 5
Braves in 4
Red Sox in 6
Braves in 7
Braves in 6
MVP - Andruw Jones
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Originally posted by Xavier Bush, Power Forward:
Meanwhile, I was 4 for 4, thanks very much.
**Edit** I wrote the Red Sox on the board and bet the White Sox. That was a great cost saving mistake. And with the Steelers winning last night I made some good money in the past week.
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The Yankees are OUT.
And all is right with the world again.
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Originally posted by Bags:
The Yankees are OUT.
And all is right with the world again.
My favorite baseball team has been, and always will be, whoever is playing the Yankees that day. Jeter and A-Rod can go back to having gay sex.
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Originally posted by Xavier Bush, Power Forward:
Nice job by Sonick. 0 for 4 in the first round. Meanwhile, I was 4 for 4, thanks very much.
seeing as how i dont really give a rats ass about baseball once the Red Sox are out of it. its really ok. i dont even know all of the teams in the National League.
i just wanted a Red Sox / Braves WS.
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Originally posted by [username edited by p.c. moderator]:
Jeter and A-Rod can go back to having gay sex. [/QB]
Only people who are jealous as hell would say stupid stuff like this.
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
Only people who are jealous as hell would say stupid stuff like this.
Well then you should be accusing the Anaheim Angels and Chicago White Sox of rampant homosexuality since unlike your precious overpaid pieces o' shite, they're still playing.
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Originally posted by [username edited by p.c. moderator]:
Well then you should be accusing the Anaheim Angels and Chicago White Sox of rampant homosexuality since unlike your precious overpaid pieces o' shite, they're still playing. [/QB]
Why should I be doing that? The better teams won, I even gave congrats to Vansmack and not calling his teams players gay because they were better. Why not call Beltran gay? He's overpaid also along with probably 100 other guys in the league.
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
Why not call Beltran gay?
Well the fact that he's not a nancy boy who runs like he's holding a purse has alot to do with it.
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Originally posted by [username edited by p.c. moderator]:
Well the fact that he's not a nancy boy who runs like he's holding a purse has alot to do with it. [/QB]
Did he even run the bases enough times to determine that fact?
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Originally posted by Xavier Bush, Power Forward:
Nice job by Sonick. 0 for 4 in the first round. Meanwhile, I was 4 for 4, thanks very much.
Originally posted by sonickteam, forum nice guy:
i am going to pick too
Red Sox in 3
Yankees in 4
Padres in 5
Braves in 4
Red Sox in 6
Braves in 7
Braves in 6
MVP - Andruw Jones
[/b]
I was 3 of 4. Go White Sox.
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
Originally posted by [username edited by p.c. moderator]:
Well the fact that he's not a nancy boy who runs like he's holding a purse has alot to do with it. [/b]
Did he even run the bases enough times to determine that fact? [/QB]
like i read somewhere, a-rod is the most dangerous hitter in baseball when his team is up by 5 runs.
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
Originally posted by [username edited by p.c. moderator]:
Well the fact that he's not a nancy boy who runs like he's holding a purse has alot to do with it. [/b]
Did he even run the bases enough times to determine that fact? [/b]
like i read somewhere, a-rod is the most dangerous hitter in baseball when his team is up by 5 runs. [/QB]
Actually, there was an article out there that was talking about how that is so last year. He was a very good clutch hitter this year. I knew I should have saved it. I mean he was no David Ortiz when it came to clutch, but he was a billion times better than he was last year.
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
I mean he was no David Ortiz
exactly.
but lets see who get that MVP award.....
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
Why not call Beltran gay?
cause it doesnt get anyone all upset...thats why ;)
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A-Rod will get it because the Yank's won the division even though they had the same record, he is a positioned player and I believe (but not positive) he led in more offensive catagories. At least we know Bonds will not win it in the NL, that is a good thing.
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nsfw (http://www.geocities.com/fuzzycat101/redsox.jpg)
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Complete bullshit. So many things were wrong with that play, starting with the umpire calling him out, then lying about it.
We were wronged.
Fortunately for all of you, I will have nothing more to say.
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Having now watched the entire game over charting the umpires patterns for calling a strike out:
Nearly every strike out was called with the unpires right arm sticking out first, then the pumped fist signaling the out sign. Only Carl Everett's strike out in the 6th and Q's strikeout in the 7th were called differently.
Five other third strikes hit the dirt prior to the ninth inning. In the four times the batter was out (GA in the second was called a foul tip), the umpire did not make the last fist pump signifying an out until after the catcher tagged the batter with the ball. Even two batters prior to Pierzynski, Aaron Rowand swung at a ball in the dirt and the umpire did not pump his fist until after the catcher tagged the batter.
This is in stark contrast to how the umpire handled the last out in the ninth, where he pumped his fist as did for every other strike out that did not hit the dirt.
If the umpire thought the ball hit the ground, he wouldn't (or shouldn't) have made the out call until Josh Paul tagged the runner, as he did every other dropped third strike in the game.
Amazing.
You can watch for yourself:
Garrett Anderson in the second
Bengie Mo in the 6th
Konerko in the 6th
Konerko in the 8th
Rowand in the 9th
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I feel for you Vansmack, that was definetely one of those plays you never expected to see. I personally thought he caught the ball. But even if he didn't, an out call was made. Of course, their will be people on here that say bad calls happen all the time so deal with it.......But that one just hurt for you I know.
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at least you werent playing the Yankees...
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paging don denkinger. . .
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
paging don denkinger. . .
not even close, was the world series and the Cardinals had the lead at the time, and Orta was clearly out while I think whether or not the ball hit the ground is debateable
but it is still an awful call because of the way the ump handled it
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Originally posted by p011@rd:
Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
paging don denkinger. . .
not even close, was the world series and the Cardinals had the lead at the time, and Orta was clearly out while I think whether or not the ball hit the ground is debateable
but it is still an awful call because of the way the ump handled it [/b]
well, i think the whole point of this is that the ump called the batter out, then said he didn't.
i was just trying to rile the cardinal fan. :)
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Anytime an umpire/referee/official shows up at a press conference with a guy in a trenchcoat, you can bet a lie is about to perpetrated.
Where's the accountability? Why can't they just admit they were wrong and blew the call?
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Originally posted by vansmack:
Anytime an umpire/referee/official shows up at a press conference with a guy in a trenchcoat, you can bet a lie is about to perpetrated.
Where's the accountability? Why can't they just admit they were wrong and blew the call?
i really just dont get why they dont like to ask for help, there are so many times where they could just ask an ump who had a better view but they wont
who was the guy in the trenchcoat anyway, i only saw part of it
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Originally posted by p011@rd:
i really just dont get why they dont like to ask for help, there are so many times where they could just ask an ump who had a better view but they wont
i think that baseball umps, on the whole, do a good job of coming together and figuring it out. however, in this instance, no one could possibly have a good view of whether or not the ball hit the dirt. in any event, to me, and as smackie pointed out about his "style," eddings called him out, then said he didn't. this is a semioticians dream.
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Originally posted by p011@rd:
who was the guy in the trenchcoat anyway, i only saw part of it
Umpire Supervisor Rich Reiker
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Originally posted by vansmack:
Having now watched the entire game over charting the umpires patterns for calling a strike out:
baseball tonight did a good look at it ... i think the fist pump wasn't just his "mechanics" for calling a third strike, he was calling the batter out ... he just got flustered when AJ ran down to first and let the play continue ... put it simply, the umpire had no balls to control the game and let the players run all over him
i think you got hornswaggled
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Originally posted by p011@rd:
i really just dont get why they dont like to ask for help, there are so many times where they could just ask an ump who had a better view but they wont[/b]
Actually, after about 3 hours of arguing, the home plate umpire did ask the third base umpire. The hand motions seemed to indicate that the third base umpire agreed with him.
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Monday Morning Bench Coach.
Hereâ??s what I think:
</font>- <font size="2" face="Arial, Veranda">I think I will never suffer a worse sports weekend in my life (Iâ??m a Notre Dame, Pittsburgh Steelers, Anaheim Angels and Tony Stewart fan. Only Man U put a smile on my face this weekend.)</font></li>
- <font size="2" face="Arial, Veranda">I think AJ Pierziynski had no friends growing up, and still has no friends today.</font></li>
- <font size="2" face="Arial, Veranda">I think Jim Edmonds had no friends growing up, and still has no friends today, but that there was no way he should have been rung up â?? even if he did call him a cocksucker.</font></li>
- <font size="2" face="Arial, Veranda">I think that some member of the Angels coaching staff should have been rung up this weekend, but that no member of the Cardinals staff should have been rung up.</font></li>
- <font size="2" face="Arial, Veranda">I think last night was the last time I will see Darin Erstad, Bengie Molina or Mickey Hatcher in an Angels uniform.</font></li>
- <font size="2" face="Arial, Veranda">I think the Notre Dame-USC game was the greatest college football game Iâ??ve ever seen, Reggie Bush deserves the Heisman, Matt Leinhart has the biggest set of balls of any player in college football and the heâ??s suffering from concussions and not telling anyone because he doesn't want to be second guessed.</font></li>
- <font size="2" face="Arial, Veranda">I think Charlie Weis will go down as one of the greatest coaches in Notre Dame history, if he doesnâ??t have a heart attack before he gets there.</font></li>
- <font size="2" face="Arial, Veranda">I think this has been the worst umpired LCS I have ever seen for both the AL and the NL.</font></li>
- <font size="2" face="Arial, Veranda">I think Tommy Maddox displayed the true differences between NFL Europe and the real NFL yesterday. That and his deal with the devil is up.</font></li>
- <font size="2" face="Arial, Veranda">I think Vlad Guerrero was hurt and didnâ??t tell anyone.</font></li>
- <font size="2" face="Arial, Veranda">I think Iâ??m not very good at Fantasy Hockey.</font></li>
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Hereâ??s what I think I think:
</font>- <font size="2" face="Arial, Veranda">I think I think that for a group of veterans, the Angels really didnâ??t handle all the bad calls as they should have and that the rain delay in New York had a bigger effect on the team than the calls, but that the media wonâ??t talk about it because they beat New York.</font></li>
- <font size="2" face="Arial, Veranda">I think I think that Ozzie Guillen really doesnâ??t know how to handle a pitching staff, but that the announcers will laud his accomplishments for the next two weeks. The first time a reliever comes in to a clutch situation and Tim McCarver says he looks rusty, I will be proved right.</font></li>
- <font size="2" face="Arial, Veranda">I think I think that I like Lou Pinella. Not in a like-like kind of way either.</font></li>
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Coffeenerdness: Mountain Dew is a great coffee substitute, but the "Tall Boy" 16 oz. can of Mountain Dew Amp should be listed by the FDA as a narcotic.
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i think baseball makes me sad, and the fact that baseball makes me sad makes me sad
and i am not very good at fantasy hockey either
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i think that FOX will wish they could show "house" -- hell, even "prison break" -- instead of the ratings bonanza that will be a white sox/astros world series.
i also think that my lack hockey knowledge is starting to become clear.
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Chicago is a large market city...
Originally posted by BookerT:
i think that FOX will wish they could show "house" -- hell, even "prison break" -- instead of the ratings bonanza that will be a white sox/astros world series.
i also think that my lack hockey knowledge is starting to become clear.
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Originally posted by Xavier Bush, Power Forward:
Chicago is a large market city...
When the Cubs play it is. Not when the White Sox play.
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Why do people prefer the Cubs over the Sox? The Cubs suck.
Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by Xavier Bush, Power Forward:
Chicago is a large market city...
When the Cubs play it is. Not when the White Sox play. [/b]
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well, i'm sure robbie fulks will watch.
really, no combination of the four teams was going to get good ratings. chicago's a big market, but how many casual baseball fans can name a single player on the pale hose? el duque is probably their best-known player, just from his time with the yankees. maybe if they go overboard on "this might be the last time you get to watch roger clemens, arguably the greatest pitcher in the history of the game" type stuff, it'll connect with people.
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Maybe not. He was supposed to sing the Anthem at a Sox game earlier in the year, but then they yanked the offer off the table. Plus, he lives on the North Side. ;)
Originally posted by BookerT:
well, i'm sure robbie fulks will watch.
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Originally posted by BookerT:
i also think that my lack hockey knowledge is starting to become clear.
We're about one injury away from me proclaiming this as well. I cannot believe I'm competitive without Smyth, Horcoff, Tkachuk, and Gaborik.
At least I got some under the radar/draft steals in Datsyuk, Savaard, and Kvasha and my makeshift defense line is coming thru (McCabe and then, who?)
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Originally posted by Xavier Bush, Power Forward:
Why do people prefer the Cubs over the Sox? The Cubs suck.
because the cubs hate black people. but really, 1) cubs have wrigley/sox had comiskey and now have u.s. cellular (i.e., sox have/had awful stadiums); 2) cubs play in upper middle class and white wrigleyville neighborhood/sox play in run-down, mainly black and poor white south side; 3) cubs had ernie banks/sox had. . .ummm, cubs had ernie banks.
btw, pollard. . .curse of keith hernandez!!!!
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Originally posted by BookerT:
i think that FOX will wish they could show "house" -- hell, even "prison break" -- instead of the ratings bonanza that will be a white sox/astros world series.
i also think that my lack hockey knowledge is starting to become clear.
i think i would rather watch house or prison break than the World Series!!!!!
and its not your lack of hockey knowledge, its the fact that you are now playing fantasy hockey with a Canadian and a guy from Michigan...really makes it tougher.
the leauge i have with my family in Canada has the same point structure, and i am in 5th place with 945.50 , a whopping 179 off the pace!!!!
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wow. . .a little ol' californian like myself must not be doing too bad being in 4th.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
Monday Morning Bench Coach.
- I think I think that Ozzie Guillen really doesnâ??t know how to handle a pitching staff, but that the announcers will laud his accomplishments for the next two weeks. The first time a reliever comes in to a clutch situation and Tim McCarver says he looks rusty, I will be proved right.
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I don't know that I agree. I think there was more to this decision than just the relief staff. It is hard to argue with the psychological lift this provided the starting rotation and the rest of the team. And I think they have enough time before the World Series starts that they can get their relievers working out.
Keep in mind, the strength of the White Sox rotation is certainly not in their bullpen. Minus the amazing El Duque performance against the Red Sox, their bullpen has never been outstanding.
White Sox in 6.
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Originally posted by sonickteam, forum nice guy:
and its not your lack of hockey knowledge, its the fact that you are now playing fantasy hockey with a Canadian and a guy from Michigan...really makes it tougher.
To be fair, I'm not as skilled since I've never played any fantasy sport before. It wasn't until 4 days ago I discovered I could change who I dressed daily instead of weekly, and then it wasn't until today I found out each position has a maximum number of "starts". Learning on the fly.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
I think I will never suffer a worse sports weekend in my life (Iâ??m a Notre Dame, Pittsburgh Steelers, Anaheim Angels and Tony Stewart fan. Only Man U put a smile on my face this weekend.)
feel you a bit:
went to the pitt/s florida game. now, i don't like pitt much so their winning bummed me out
go to the bar. leave bar with psu up with 51 seconds to go
go to pen/lightning. had the dream seats, get dvd. find out psu ended up losing. then the pens lose
steelers lose
drive home
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Originally posted by [username edited by p.c. moderator]:
To be fair, I'm not as skilled since I've never played any fantasy sport before. It wasn't until 4 days ago I discovered I could change who I dressed daily instead of weekly, and then it wasn't until today I found out each position has a maximum number of "starts". Learning on the fly. [/QB]
I wouldn't worry about the number of starts. each position has a very large number of starts and its highly unlikely you will reach that maximum. there is a place you can check how many you have used/projected to use and whether you are under or over that pace. unless you switch players every day to get a stacked lineup, you'll be fine.
and yes, you can change all your players daily, but you were doing a good job with that anyway.
and about baseball.....i was thinking about how the announcers were juicing over Guillen and co. FAR FAR too much during the Sox/Sox series. granted not much was happening to talk good about the Red Sox, but they were REALLY REALLY in love with Guillen. it was sorta nauseating...like the way John Madden talks about Brett Favre.
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Originally posted by callat703:
I don't know that I agree. I think there was more to this decision than just the relief staff. It is hard to argue with the psychological lift this provided the starting rotation and the rest of the team. And I think they have enough time before the World Series starts that they can get their relievers working out.
Keep in mind, the strength of the White Sox rotation is certainly not in their bullpen. Minus the amazing El Duque performance against the Red Sox, their bullpen has never been outstanding.
White Sox in 6.
That's why when it was 8-2 in game 4, he should have given his pen a little work just to stay fresh in a live situation, on camera, with pressure. Especially with a rookie closer in Bobby Jenks.
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i am trying to convince myself that the cardinals will win tonight and head back to st.louis down 3-2 just like last year, really would suck to lose 4 games to 1
fuck keith hernandez, curses are for red socked sissy boys
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Originally posted by p011@rd:
i am trying to convince myself that the cardinals will win tonight and head back to st.louis down 3-2 just like last year, really would suck to lose 4 games to 1
fuck keith hernandez, curses are for red socked sissy boys
until next week, they are still the world champions buddy.
curses may be for redsox, but if i were chicago i would be rooting for st. louis....the curse breakers!!!!
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I didn't sleep a wink last night.
Albert Pujols gave me Dave Henderson flashbacks.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
I didn't sleep a wink last night.
Albert Pujols gave me Dave Henderson flashbacks.
I am trying not to talk about it, I have watched it 30 times this morning though
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Is Albert Pujols from the Dominican Republic? If you had to prepare a list with the best 20 current baseball players, what percentage would be from a caribbean country (Dom. Republic, Cuba, Venezuela, Colombia, Panama, Mexico, Nicaragua...)?
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Do the Houston Astros have the most white guys on their team of any team in baseball?
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Originally posted by Barcelona:
Is Albert Pujols from the Dominican Republic? If you had to prepare a list with the best 20 current baseball players, what percentage would be from a caribbean country (Dom. Republic, Cuba, Venezuela, Colombia, Panama, Mexico, Nicaragua...)?
i would say that in mlb, the vast majority of those are from the dominican republic. the rest of those have a handful of good players in mlb, i.e., venezuela has johan santana. cuba has the hernandezesess and jose contreras (and, jose canseco and rafael palmeiro).
taking the numbers from yahoo's final player rankings (quibble all you want about that), these are the 20 best players from this past season (noting that that does not include barry bonds)-
1) Alex Rodriguez (New York)
2) Albert Pujols (Dominican Republic)
3) Derrek Lee (California)
4) David Ortiz (Dominican Republic)
5) Mark Teixeira (Maryland)
6) Mariano Rivera (Panama)
7) Manny Ramirez (Dominican Republic)
8) Chris Carpenter (New Hampshire)
9) Johan Santana (Venezuela)
10) Billy Wagner (Virginia)
11) Jason Bay (Canada)
12) Joe Nathan (Texas)
13) Dontrelle Willis (California)
14) Alfonso Soriano (Dominican Republic)
15) Pedro Martinez (Dominican Republic)
16) Andruw Jones (Curacao)
17) Gary Sheffield (Florida)
18) Miguel Cabrera (Venezuela)
19) Vladimir Guerrero (Dominican Republic)
20) Andy Pettitte (Louisiana)
so, the numbers show that 9 of the top 20 are U.S. born, 6 are from dominican republic, 2 from venezuela and 1 each from canada, curacao and panama.
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Originally posted by Barcelona:
Is Albert Pujols from the Dominican Republic? If you had to prepare a list with the best 20 current baseball players, what percentage would be from a caribbean country (Dom. Republic, Cuba, Venezuela, Colombia, Panama, Mexico, Nicaragua...)?
there's been some really good articles lately about the upcoming baseball world cup next spring ... i can't wait for it ... dominicans will probably dominate, but in a short series it might just come down to dominant pitching, making a team like venezuala (j.santana) a contender ...
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here is a wide screen view of the Pujols homerun, great because you get to watch George Bush Sr. reaction to the homerun on the right side of the screen
http://media.putfile.com/PujolsSwingin/wide (http://media.putfile.com/PujolsSwingin/wide)
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Originally posted by HoyaParanoia:
Originally posted by Barcelona:
Is Albert Pujols from the Dominican Republic? If you had to prepare a list with the best 20 current baseball players, what percentage would be from a caribbean country (Dom. Republic, Cuba, Venezuela, Colombia, Panama, Mexico, Nicaragua...)?
there's been some really good articles lately about the upcoming baseball world cup next spring ... i can't wait for it ... dominicans will probably dominate, but in a short series it might just come down to dominant pitching, making a team like venezuala (j.santana) a contender ... [/b]
Hey! I thought Boston were the current "world champions".....venezuala, columbia, cuba, dom. rep. or mexico didn't even make the playoffs.
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ok, this has been bugging me all day. . .why didn't taveras squeeze in the 9th last night? if he misses, you still move biggio over to 2nd, and have a runner in scoring position. plus, it's taveras, and that's all he's good for. for that matter, why didn't houston sacrifice in the 10th to move the runner over to 2nd? houston should have won that game last night.
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Urbina Arrested in Attempted Murder Case (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051108/ap_on_sp_ba_ne/venezuela_urbina)
CARACAS, Venezuela - Philadelphia Phillies pitcher Ugueth Urbina was arrested and held Tuesday pending a formal charge of attempted murder, police said Tuesday.
Last month, Urbina and a group of men allegedly attacked five workers with machetes and poured gasoline on them in an attempt to set them on fire. All five were injured, some of them with cuts and one with burns on the back and right arm, police said.
Urbina, who was detained late Monday, has insisted he had nothing to do with the violence at his family's ranch on Oct. 16.
"Everything will be cleared up soon and people will know the truth," Urbina said from his cell at a police station. "Right now we aren't going to do anything to deny things that aren't true."
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Originally posted by ggwâ?˘:
Urbina Arrested in Attempted Murder Case (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051108/ap_on_sp_ba_ne/venezuela_urbina)
colbert did a funny bit on this last night, looking at ugie's career record and advocating prison time
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Bartolo Colon has made my fantast baseball team proud. Now hopefully Dontrelle Willis and Alex Rodriguez will win awards and do the same.
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
Now hopefully Dontrelle Willis will do the same.
That honor goes to the Tropic of Nipples' Chris Carpenter
:D
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Originally posted by pdx pollard:
That honor goes to the Tropic of Nipples' Chris Carpenter
:D
And I prefer to have Bartolo Colon referred to as OC $5 Beers of SF's Bartolo Colon.
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Cleveland Indians to become Cleveland Guardians. I'm sure we all feel safer now.
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That’s terrible
Should have gone with Spiders
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I was thinking the Rocks.
Cleveland Rocks
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Colorado wouldn’t have been happy with that one.
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Originally posted by pdx pollard:
That honor goes to the Tropic of Nipples' Chris Carpenter
:D
And I prefer to have Bartolo Colon referred to as OC $5 Beers of SF's Bartolo Colon.
I wonder if Smackie could have guesses that when he posted this 15+ years ago that Big Sexy would still be pitching?
https://www.si.com/mlb/2021/06/14/bartolo-colon-complete-game-mexican-league
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That’s terrible
Should have gone with Spiders
Seconded.
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Friend from Cleveland told me they have a bridge that connects east side to west side of Cleveland and it has statues on them called The Guardians. I said "so"? Spiders would've been much better.
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There’s a real history to the Cleveland Spiders
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleveland_Spiders
I am bummed out…
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Atlanta is just going to continue to skate on Braves and the Tomahawk Chop and all that, aren't they?
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Steamers
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Cy Young started as a Spider my son informs me
But they really sucked in 1899 with 20 wins 134 losses
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Every Cleveland teams should be the LeBrons.
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Steamers
Winner.
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Scherzer/Turner to Dodgers?
Losing Turner will depress me further
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Bryce Harper went one for one with two walks today against the Nats and ended the game hitting .297.
Juan Soto went one for one with two walks and ended the game hitting .297.
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Schwarber gone to Red Sox
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$700 million/10 yrs Ohtani to Dodgers
Yankees-Dodgers World Series?
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$700 million/10 yrs Ohtani to Dodgers
Yankees-Dodgers World Series?
Assuming he stays healthy, he'll make the average salary of a Japanese citizen every time he plays an inning of baseball .And he doesn't even have to play to get the salary.
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$700 million/10 yrs Ohtani to Dodgers
Yankees-Dodgers World Series?
No one should text Smackie about this. It’s a trap and will backfire on you.
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https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/39092632/shohei-ohtani-defer-680m-deal-dodgers-sources
Makes more sense now
He is deferring $680 million for a decade ….
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https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/39092632/shohei-ohtani-defer-680m-deal-dodgers-sources
Makes more sense now
He is deferring $680 million for a decade ….
This is quite common. I have at least fifteen times that much deferred, just of railroad credits alone.
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as part of the lumpen proletariat I had no idea…