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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: rich_WDC on December 18, 2003, 01:21:00 pm
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Jane's Addiction / Marilyn Manson tour is scrapped. Low sales? Other issues? Who cares? The point is the show is not coming. Sure MM has been in area twice this year, but Jane's needs to do a tour for STRAYS LP, non Lollapalooza. And a JA/MM bill is a cool show, at least I think so.
Can JANE'S come do their show at the Club?? Since they usually won't play more than 70 mins, perhaps they can be thrown into one of those 2 or 3 show days!
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So you want Seth to try and book a band that has just cancelled a tour because nobody is buying tickets...hmmmmm, stick to whatever it is you do and leave Seth to owning concert venues.
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C'mon guys! We could put on a show right here!
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Well, I don't think there's a question that a Jane's Addiction show at Patriot Center is overambitious, but a Jane's Addiction show at the 9:30 Club would be an event.
Saw them on Lollapalooza this year and enjoyed it, but thought a lot was misguided. Perry Farrell's was Vegas/Hollywood-esque on an almost David Lee Roth level . . . more schmaltz than shamen. Playing such a big venue there was a definite sense of inflated band worth (do young folks even listen to Jane's Addiction? Does anyone? Are they relevant to anyone anymore?), BUT there is still magic when Navarro, Perkins, and Perry get together. They'd blow the roof off 9:30 for old times sake . . . if they wanted to.
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They did play the old club. It was intense and a pure rock experience none of those dancers and crap.
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funny this topic just came up
I was listening to "Strays" this morning for the first real time, and its DAMN good. Really. I mean, sure, PF thinks hes the next Prince, and I didnt see them on Lollapalooza, but i did see them at HFS and i dont think, if they stick to rock...they have lost anything.
the album is very good, and could rival Ritual, had it been put out in 1991 (meaning, perhaps thier sound is lost today with bands like Linkin Park and Korn) Jane's Addiction would positively sell out the 930 Club...Manson did and quickly.
People dont like the Pat Center and MM and JA's fans, arent really the same people are they?
I would piss if Jane's came to 930...and i might pay $30-$40 for it!!! haha.
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I don't like everything on the album but I'd definitely rather see them at 9:30 than those other less personal venues. I really enjoyed their show at Lollapalooza, but it could've been because it was my first time seeing them.
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This cancelled most likely due to poor ticket pre-sales. It's the holidays. Lots of expensive concerts with big bills also going on. Then you put two big acts like Janes and Manson on the same bill, you know the expense to do this show had to be up there. They probably needed at least half the tickets to be pre-sold just to cover costs!
I think Janes at the club wouldn't be any different then the rest of the big name "arena band" shows they've had come through...
MindCage
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When they did their first climb to fame in the course of a little over a year I saw them:
old 9:30 club
College Park Ritchie Colliseum (1800 seater)
Lollapalooza
The shows were inversely great to the venue size.
The 9:30 was a show with no pretenses. It was for Nothing Shocking, and they just rocked. Shocking how short they are. Some smoke machines was the limit to the effects, and the whole club was a mosh pit.
Ritchie they were just getting big and whacky, but the energy was amazing. It was almost a riot through the whole show (no security for the stage by the band's request, just make sure they don't trash the amps or stay up too long). Continuous flow of stage divers and a pit beyond the beyond. First time I saw divers off the PA.
Lollapalooza sucked. They had dancers, and all this extra b.s. going on and the music was lost. The show was so big and in that huge field in Reston at the end of a long hot day, that no one was really into it. Was ready to just leave by then.
So for me, a smaller venue with few arty showings would be a great time, the big production does nothing for me.
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I saw Janes about 2 years ago at Nissan w/ Live. Damn was Live just awful. Who forgot to hand out the revolvers at the door for their ultra depressing set? Ed kept bringing up all the 9/11 stuff and how people in this area got hit hard by it and it's great how we all could come out and bond about it blah blah blah. Uhhh shut up Ed, we came to rock out to Janes not to hear you keep bringing the 9/11 stuff up with your depressing set.
Janes did rock out, even with the dancers and the short acoustic set with the moon shining bright behind them! Wish I had my uh point and click camera that night at the show! ;)
MindCage
Mindless Faith (http://www.mindlessfaith.com)
Deep6 Productions (http://www.deep6.com)
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Originally posted by Sir HC:
Lollapalooza sucked. They had dancers, and all this extra b.s. going on and the music was lost. The show was so big and in that huge field in Reston at the end of a long hot day, that no one was really into it. Was ready to just leave by then.
I saw them at Lollapalooza too and i thought it was incredible. It was my first time seeing them and my first big show and i was 14. but the crowd was totally into them, and the show wasnt so big or hot. and i was probably smoking "ganja" haha.
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that show whould sell out pretty fast....
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I'm pretty bummed about the show being cancelled. :)
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Perry Farrell's little ninny voice has always gotten on my fucking nerves.
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I don't know too much about Jane's music, but she makes a damn fine book about world fighter aircraft recognition. Hat's off Jane! What a fine lass.
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it's odd that a show featuring three bands (the used were the opener) that can sell very well at the club level couldn't make the jump to the next sized venues. i guess their crowds just don't want to mix. it's a shame. i was really looking forward to a week away.
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Doesn't she also put out a sassy magazine for the young ladies? Multidimensional, that Jane!
Originally posted by Dupek Chopra:
I don't know too much about Jane's music, but she makes a damn fine book about world fighter aircraft recognition. Hat's off Jane! What a fine lass.
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Originally posted by thatguy:
it's odd that a show featuring three bands (the used were the opener) that can sell very well at the club level couldn't make the jump to the next sized venues. i guess their crowds just don't want to mix. it's a shame. i was really looking forward to a week away.
wasnt it $50? on a college campus during term break.
i am not too surprised.
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
wasnt it $50? on a college campus during term break.
i am not too surprised.
not sure of the cost, but the local show was the only one at a college. i don't remember all of the venues, but one was the tweeter center and the new year's eve show was scheduled for madison square garden.
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oh thats right, they cancelled the whole tour.
yeah, only thing i can think of is that the 2 audiences didnt mix very well
$40-$50 would be ok for 2 good bands, but if you only like one of them.....
but I'd pay $40 to see Jane's at 930 or Electric Factory.
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Doesn't she also put out a sassy magazine for the young ladies? Multidimensional, that Jane!
And in her spare time she seems to be an expert, not to be confused with Anne Expert (http://www.adequatulence.com/hartman/vault/sounds/sassy1.wav), on warships and assault rifles. Whatta gal!
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Originally posted by Dupek Chopra:
I don't know too much about Jane's music, but she makes a damn fine book about world fighter aircraft recognition. Hat's off Jane! What a fine lass.
I've seen a few issues of those and thought it was pretty cool. There were a few nice little machines I'd like to fly in.
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I'm pretty sure Jane's would be well received at the 930 club. Even though I'm not much of a fan of theirs, it'd be great to see them play The Mountain Song.
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An official statement has been released regarding the cancellation of the Jane's Addiction, Marilyn Manson and The Used Tour, it is as follows:
"Due to exhaustion brought on by a rigorous touring schedule, Jane's Addiction has decided to call off our holiday run of the East and all head south to the equator, where we hope to find rest and a new perspective for 2004. We apologize to all of our fans and hope that they will understand. We will see everyone in the New Year and happy holidays!"
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I'll admit that I am a Live fan, and even at points Ed can get nerving. But I was given tix to see that Nissan show, and literally went just to see LIve, then left. I thought the set they did was very reminiscent of what they did on the Throwing Copper tour. They went back to basics, which was nothing like the album that they were promoting then "V". And as much as I can respect Farrell and Navarro for being good musicians when they can manage to stay out their own ways, I just get sick and tired of the glam revivalist shit.
Originally posted by MindCage:
I saw Janes about 2 years ago at Nissan w/ Live. Damn was Live just awful. Who forgot to hand out the revolvers at the door for their ultra depressing set? Ed kept bringing up all the 9/11 stuff and how people in this area got hit hard by it and it's great how we all could come out and bond about it blah blah blah. Uhhh shut up Ed, we came to rock out to Janes not to hear you keep bringing the 9/11 stuff up with your depressing set.
Janes did rock out, even with the dancers and the short acoustic set with the moon shining bright behind them! Wish I had my uh point and click camera that night at the show! ;)
MindCage
Mindless Faith (http://www.mindlessfaith.com)
Deep6 Productions (http://www.deep6.com)
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yeah i was contemplating going to that show being that I can walk to the Patriot Center since I live on campus but Jane's Addiction and Marilyn Manson? What were they trying to do, bridge the age gap? I dunno how relevant Manson will be in a couple years but Jane i think has placed itself in music history already, if it was Jane's Addiction and the Used that would be cool. I'm sure it was the low ticket sales though. They definitely rocked though when i saw them for Lollapalooza, many of the bands rocked house that day, from QOTSA onward. Audioslave definitely put on a better live show than at HFStival and Jane's Addiction is always quality show.
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Marilyn Manson has definitely made a place for themselves in musical history and will be remembered for a long time. Screw where any of them will be in several years. You're starting to sound like Rhett! The real question is, do you want to see them now?
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albeit not really for his music.