The 2020 thread....

[Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI]

The wing of the Democratic electorate that thinks Biden is going to win in a landslide needs to be thinking about what a reasonable stretch goal for 2020 is. It is not 410 EV, McConnell and Graham defeated, and Dems with a filibuster proof Senate lead. That is not happening.

Instead, they should consolidate around a plan to get Biden above 300 so Trump cannot reasonably contest the election and get the Senate to 53-47. At 53 seats, Dems can reasonably survive a 2022 midterm slide back towards the GOP (which will happen if Biden wins) if you look at which Senate seats are contested and looking ahead to 2024 which is a VERY good Senate map for Dems, probably gives the Dems the Senate for the next 6 years.

Be smart. Stop shooting for Jupiter. Walk on Mars.

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Dude, why put the bar so low
Jupiter has 79 moons

Yes Mars is a mere 61 million miles away and Jupiter is 387 Million miles away
Just a few extra trusts from the booster and few years in space
Did I say it has 79 moons!

[Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI]

Bernie Bros go to Jupiter to get more stupider. BiDUDEns go to Mars to drive fast cars.

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Biden VP pick is next week....


I think it’s going to be Susan Rice...or Kamala Harris...

But Susan Rice is the likeliest...someone he has worked with extensively...

Of course I could be way off..

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Biden VP pick is next week....


I think it’s going to be Susan Rice...

Total Russia hawk...and we kinda need that
I really do like Harris, but walks in with a lot of baggage from her days as AG of CA
Not sure that will really hurt turn out, but seemed like it a month ago

She is a good fit to take over from Barr and prosecute all these bastards
I think she'd have a good time putting some of these guys behind bars

Would be awesome if biden filled his whole cabinet with women/Gay/POC
would drive the MAGA crowd totally bonkers

[Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI]

It is absolutely astonishing to me that he is even considering anyone other than Elizabeth Warren.

Yes, put Benghazi back on the forefront of this election. Put African-American Hillary as your VP. Just staggeringly dumb.

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Probably Elizabeth Warren is the only candidate that would bring excitement....



But calling Susan Rice “African-American Hillary” seems crazy


Whoever Biden picks they will make up stuff about...If it’s Warren they will ride the Pocahontas charge

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so it seems like Republicans are really the only ones who care about BenGaaaaahzie 
(there is an infrequent bordie whos name was like Gaaaah, always loved that name)

I think EW is great, but she'll Secretary of the Treasury or Commerce

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Is Benghazi such a huge deal? A few Americans died compared to 152,000 from Covid19 and after all the investigations they found nothing.

I mean the kind of people who get riled up about this issue will get riled up about masks, anything Trump tells them...

Should Biden let these wackos dictate his pick?

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Should Biden let these wackos dictate his pick?

Absolutely not, that why Benghazi is irrelevant to any potential Biden voter

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Let's be clear, we are getting the vote out regardless of polling...no question

but this tidbit from nate gave me a litte pause
Nate Silver@NateSilver538
At the end of the day, it's only July, there are a lot of unprecedented events happening, polling is more accurate than its critics think but probably *not* as accurate as it was in say 2004-2012—and if we wind up in a photo finish, Trump likely wins b/c of the Electoral College.So while Biden has a robust polling lead now, and a number of other things going for him, it's a little early to be all that confident about what is going to happen.

[Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI]

But calling Susan Rice “African-American Hillary” seems crazy

Sorry for the confusion: that was a reference to Kamala.

Susan rice is Benghazi.

[Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI]

Rice or Harris get out the Republican vote in opposition more than it does the Dem vote and fires up no particular wing of the Dem party.

Warren is the exact opposite.

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Bull.


Warren will be tagged a socialist and feed into the Biden is senile and will let the communists/socialists run his administration....


I think he should pick who he wants and definitely not make his pick out of fear...

[Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI]

Bull.


Warren will be tagged a socialist and feed into the Biden is senile and will let the communists/socialists run his administration....


I think he should pick who he wants and definitely not make his pick out of fear...

And in their attempts to tag her as a socialist, they’ll highlight her wildly popular-even-to-Independents policies. Whereas when they target Kamala or Rice, they bring bupkiss to the table except happening to be part of an ethnic group that is voting for Biden at a 90+% rate anyway.