The 2020 thread....

[hutch]

I just don’t agree and my posts on this thread have addressed most of what you say.


I am not going to tear down Elizabeth Warren. I don’t believe she has any chance of getting selected and neither would I recommend it.


Regardless Rice and Harris are the favorites one week out. We will just have to wait and see.

[hutch]

However, a Warren pick is the one that would create the most buzz and excitement.

The Rice and Harris picks are fairly boring.


I fully acknowledge that

[hutch]

I saw a poll said 78% of democrats want a black woman as V.P.

[hutch]

Oh boy


https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/28/politics/biden-kamala-harris-notes/index.html?fbclid=IwAR0l9E6WURt1lDqLXaGxORebVALwue_iZn5lGpNjvpW5CzuncO7m3PSRqkw

[sweetcell]

Whereas when they target Kamala or Rice, they bring bupkiss to the table except happening to be part of an ethnic group that is voting for Biden at a 90+% rate anyway.

Biden is the strong preference for african-american voters, but that doesn't mean they will vote.

biden needs the black vote to show up in november.  an all-white ticket = alienating blacks = low turnout.  talk to your girl hillary about that one.

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Oh boy


https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/28/politics/biden-kamala-harris-notes/index.html?fbclid=IwAR0l9E6WURt1lDqLXaGxORebVALwue_iZn5lGpNjvpW5CzuncO7m3PSRqkw

I do love how photojournalists have been catching these as of late

although, I felt this one didn't contain any bombshells or oh boy moments
Did I miss something?  Don't think "do not hold grudge" is that damning?

[Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI]

biden needs the black vote to show up in november.  an all-white ticket = alienating blacks = low turnout.  talk to your girl hillary about that one.

How about I talk to Bill Clinton about it? Or better yet, I'll talk to the participants in the literally tens of polls of African American voters I have posted that all show them with a preference for Elizabeth Warren. Listen to African-American voters when they tell you what they want.

[Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI]

This Tennessee GOP Senate Primary is amazing. A candidate is literally getting blasted for voting for his party's -- the same party whose Senate nomination he is running for -- 2012 Presidential nominee.

[hutch]

So you think Biden can’t win without Warren? Is that why you are so concerned?

[Julian, Forum COGNOSCENTI]

So you think Biden can’t win without Warren? Is that why you are so concerned?

No, but I think Warren improves his chances of winning whereas I think Rice or Harris reduce it.

Let me turn the question around: you are on record as saying multiple times on here that the VP choice does not matter -- then why do you keep arguing with me the merits of one vs another if its inconsequential?

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TeamTrump quietly pulls add spending int the great swing state of Michigan
Looks like they are conceding The Wolverine State and focusing money on states they think they can win

in recent days, Mr. Trump’s campaign stopped buying ads in Michigan entirely.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/29/us/politics/michigan-trump-biden-2020.html

[hutch]

Well I think the V.P. should be a black woman because it helps and is the right thing to do for Biden (he owes) and the country (we need this)

At the same time I think this election has gotten away from Trump so it won’t really matter for the election so the issues are more about future governance


But when you make all these points about how great Warren is and tag someone as a black Hillary Clinton well I just don’t agree...I also think Warren has little in common with Biden...I realize some see that as an asset..I don’t

Ultimately though I am just pointing out that Kamala and Rice are the favorites and your response is that’s insanity..I think given the current electoral context you reaction is completely overboard and kind of discredits you...

[sweetcell]

the literally tens of polls of African American voters I have posted that all show them with a preference for Elizabeth Warren. 

and i'll counter with literally tens of polls that show Harris in the lead, and i even found one that had Abrams on top.  warren does come out on top more often than the others, but the point is: there isn't a clear-cut preference for Warren, and she certainly doesn't have runaway candidate-type enthusiasm behind her. 

layer on top the horrible optics of yet another all-white ticket, and Warren is sunk IMHO.  some black voters will be disappointed if she doesn't get the nod, but the consolation prize will be a woman of color.

[hutch]

And Warren is 71!! To me it’s a non starter....

[Space Freely]

I wish Biden had never promised to pick a woman. He really painted himself into a corner on that one.