Reagan Dead.

[Barcelona]

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  Why don't you losers have some respect for the guy?
 
 He didn't put his dick down any intern's throat, and he didn't start any wars.
 
  Alzheimer's is definitely a shitty way to go.

Do you really care if a president has sexual relationships with an intern? Who cares about that? What should worry you are the human atrocities Reagan did in Central America against innocent civilians in Nicaragua or El Salvador.

[markie]

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  He didn't put his dick down any intern's throat, and he didn't start any wars.
 
 

Umm,
 
 well he was a part of the end of the cold war, but his legacy to me revolves around the Iran-contra affair. Where is Oliver North right now? Oh, and what happened to Grenada?

[RatBastard]

Ronnie was OK and he did a lot of good things, but it was not he should get credit for the cold war ending.  In fact other president of 'my generation' (had to get the music reference in) were much better.  RMN was a far better pres.  Too bad he screwed up on CREEP.  It was RMN who shold be credited with the ending of the cold war.  It was his actions in earlier days that made Ronnie's actions even possible.  The big screw up for Ronnie and his boys was their arms for hostages.  It not only broke major laws but also HELPED lead to where we are now with terror.  So nope Ronnie should not be on money, on a mountain, or have anything named after him.  Thats my opinion and I'm sticking to it.

[sonickteam2]

Originally posted by Barcelona:
  Do you really care if a president has sexual relationships with an intern? Who cares about that?

I can only hope that one day i will have a good enough job to need interns, and they will give me oral pleasure.  isnt THAT the American dream after all?

[jkeisenh]

e gads... now keeping the crazy fascists from renaming every post office, school, street, and lamp pole after him will be a full-time job.

[keithstg]

Originally posted by chimbly sweep:
  e gads... now keeping the crazy fascists from renaming every post office, school, street, and lamp pole after him will be a full-time job.

Yes, of course. Because to want to honor a Republican President, one must be a fascist. Makes perfect sense.
 
 I'm struck by the lack of sympathy for Reagan here. Despite ideological opposition, his death is sad. I would / will say the same thing when Clinton passes away.

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

Regardless of political ideologies, I'm certainly going to have admiration for someone who is loving and faithful to his wife, and lose admiration for someone who cheats on his wife with other women repeatedly.
 
    My main point is that cheering someones death, particularly a former president, strikes me as pretty class-less and disrespectful. But I guess it's the internet, so all is fair.
 
    While I did disagree with most of his policies, I'm not going to remember him negatively. I'm going to remember him as a much better president that GW Bush, and a much better human being the Clinton.
 
 

Originally posted by Barcelona:
   

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  Why don't you losers have some respect for the guy?
 
 He didn't put his dick down any intern's throat, and he didn't start any wars.
 
  Alzheimer's is definitely a shitty way to go.

Do you really care if a president has sexual relationships with an intern? Who cares about that? What should worry you are the human atrocities Reagan did in Central America against innocent civilians in Nicaragua or El Salvador. [/b]

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

Federal agencies will be closed Friday as part of the national day of mourning for former president Ronald Reagan, the White House announced last night.  In an executive order, President Bush said federal government offices "shall be closed on June 11, 2004, as a mark of respect for Ronald Reagan."   Federal offices and programs essential for national defense, homeland security, foreign affairs, law enforcement and other essential business may be kept open, however, at the discretion of agency heads, the order said.  Administration officials said additional information would be sent to agencies today on the closing of the government for the Reagan funeral on Friday.

[edbert]

well he was a part of the end of the cold war,

Everyone's accepting that as history now; I guess the myth is that by building up our nukes the commies went broke trying to keep up. Then how come the poor warsaw pact countries who spent zip on the arms race ousted the communist party first?  If people wanna credit Reagan with something I think de-regulating S&Ls would be more apt

[Bombay Chutney]

Originally posted by keithstg:
  I'm struck by the lack of sympathy for Reagan here. Despite ideological opposition, his death is sad.

It's a sad event when anyone dies.  Well, almost anyone.   But I have a limited amount of sympathy for him. He was 93.  Until Alzheimers took over, he lead a long, priviledged life.  My biggest beef with him was his lack of action in the early days of AIDS.  He treated it as more of a moral issue than a  medical issue, resulting in a lack of funding and research.  He refused to even say the word "AIDS" in public until 1987. That's inexcusable.
 
 So, no, I don't have a lot of sympathy for his loss.  I do, however, feel badly for Nancy, who has probably had a very miserable life for the last 10-15 years.

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

Why begrudge the man for being privileged? He worked his way to that privilege.
 
 Reagan was born in a small town in Illinois. He was born the son of poor parents. In the 1930s, during the Depression, he graduated from college.
 
 He attended high school in nearby Dixon and then worked his way through Eureka College.
 
 

Originally posted by Skeeter:
   

Originally posted by keithstg:
  I'm struck by the lack of sympathy for Reagan here. Despite ideological opposition, his death is sad.

It's a sad event when anyone dies.  Well, almost anyone.   But I have a limited amount of sympathy for him. He was 93.  Until Alzheimers took over, he lead a long, priviledged life.  My biggest beef with him was his lack of action in the early days of AIDS.  He treated it as more of a moral issue than a  medical issue, resulting in a lack of funding and research.  He refused to even say the word "AIDS" in public until 1987. That's inexcusable.
 
 So, no, I don't have a lot of sympathy for his loss.  I do, however, feel badly for Nancy, who has probably had a very miserable life for the last 10-15 years. [/b]

[mankie]

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  Regardless of political ideologies, I'm certainly going to have admiration for someone who is loving and faithful to his wife, and lose admiration for someone who cheats on his wife with other women repeatedly.
 
    ]

Wasn't Nancy his second wife...wonder if he was loving and faithful to his first wife?
 
 This is the most positive element of Reagans legacy.....
 
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 "The Presidents Brain Is Missing"...now that shit was funny.
 
 Apart from that, Reagan's legacy is a non-starter really, and if you check his approval ratings you'll find most Americans agreed.

[Venerable Bede]

Originally posted by edbert:
   

well he was a part of the end of the cold war,

Everyone's accepting that as history now; I guess the myth is that by building up our nukes the commies went broke trying to keep up. Then how come the poor warsaw pact countries who spent zip on the arms race ousted the communist party first?  If people wanna credit Reagan with something I think de-regulating S&Ls would be more apt [/b]

building up our nukes?  ever heard of salt i and ii?  where he got the commies was in his insistence for sdi- after that, the commies couldn't compete.

[Bombay Chutney]

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  Why begrudge the man for being privileged?

I don't begrudge him for being priviledged.  I'm just saying that for the most part, he had a very long, good life.  Most of us should be so lucky to have 80+ good years.