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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: Sage 703 on October 03, 2006, 03:13:00 pm
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about time we had a football thread, no?
how 'bout dem Bears?!
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My fantasy teams suck again this year.
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go ravens?
that sounds so weird...
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Go Giants!!
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Originally posted by callat703:
how 'bout dem Bears?!
Bill Swerski: DA BEARS!! Who wins in a fight, Ditka vs. God? Trick question, Ditka is God. Who wins in a fight, Ditka vs. A Hurricane? What if the Hurricane was named Hurricane Ditka? Now, gentlemen, let me ask you this: What if Da Bears were all 14 inches tall, you know, about so high? Now, what's your score of today's game?
Carl Wollarski: Against Da Giants?
Bill Swerski: Yes, give 'em a handicap.
Carl Wollarski: Bears 18, Giants 10. And that would finally be a good game.
Pat Arnold: Yeah, it would be a good game. Mini Bears 24, Giants 14.
Todd O'Conner: What about Ditka? Would he be mini, too?
Bill Swerski: No, he would be full-grown.
Todd O'Conner: Oh, then, uh.. Mini Bears 31, Giants 7.
Carl Wollarski: Oh, hold on. Then I change mine, too. I thought it was Mini Ditka.
Bill Swerski: Okay, gentlemen, another scenario: Da Bears, they don't make it, the plane is delayed.. and the only one who shows up is Ditka. Ditka vs. Da Giants. Okay, score, gentlemen.
Pat Arnold: Alright, after da heart attack, I gotta say Ditka 17, Giants 14. He just barely gets by.
Bill Swerski: Alright, that sounds exciting. Perhaps, you know, a late Ditka field goal.
Todd O'Conner: Da Bears!
Superfans: Da Bears!!
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Originally posted by callat703:
about time we had a football thread, no?
how 'bout dem Bears?!
They are pretty sick.
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Originally posted by thingsfallapart:
Originally posted by callat703:
about time we had a football thread, no?
how 'bout dem Bears?!
They are pretty sick. [/b]
On top of that, they have a schedule that gives them a shot at having a ridiculous record...
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Originally posted by callat703:
Originally posted by thingsfallapart:
Originally posted by callat703:
about time we had a football thread, no?
how 'bout dem Bears?!
They are pretty sick. [/b]
On top of that, they have a schedule that gives them a shot at having a ridiculous record... [/b]
goooooooooo packers :-p
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Originally posted by callat703:
Originally posted by thingsfallapart:
Originally posted by callat703:
about time we had a football thread, no?
how 'bout dem Bears?!
They are pretty sick. [/b]
On top of that, they have a schedule that gives them a shot at having a ridiculous record... [/b]
True, but they crushed the Weecocks last weekend, and the 'cocks are a seemingly good team (granted, they didn't have Alexander, but Hasselback is the meat of that team).
The Chesapeake Watershed Indigenous Peoples are going to get good this year. Slow start, but that's par for the course. They'll sneak into the playoffs in the wild card game and maybe win one or two.
We'll see about those Giants. The team hates the coach, the defense is suspect (nice move Lavarr) and if Eli goes down, those shit-hot receivers can't do much if they don't have the ball. Philly and Dallas will collapse mid-season, and the Skins might actually have a shot at the division.
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The Chesapeake Watershed Indigenous Peoples ....
hahaha.
the Giants need a parental figure in their life or something b/c there are a lot of babies on that team. on the other hand, the Bears are pretty legit -- as in really legit --- especially Grossman to Berrian. i see the Ravens being just like the Bears in a couple of more weeks -- once McNair trusts his line and receivers enough to throw downfield more.
i also really hope that the Packers can get it together -- namely their receivers. i mean -- what the hell --- i feel so sorry for Favre Diddy (can i call him that?) b/c half of his picks come from his receivers dropping passes and tipping them to the defense.
oh yeah -- go Larry Johnson! (fantasy football -- teehee)
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I don't see Grossman carrying a team through the playoffs. Then again, the Ravens did it with Dilfer, so who knows.
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
I don't see Grossman carrying a team through the playoffs. Then again, the Ravens did it with Dilfer, so who knows.
The difference between Dilfer and Grossman is that Grossman can create offence. The Ravens just asked Dilfer to not turn the ball over and maybe make one big play a game. Hell they went like 5 games in a row without scoring an offensive TD. Grossman on the other hand is tied for the league lead in TD passes and is one of the top rated QB's after 4 weeks.
There has never been a question about Grossman's talent, hell he lit it up in college at Florida. His only flaw has been can he stay healthy enough to finish an entire season.
I think with that defense as dominant as it is right now and that offense really clicking you have to see Chicago as the early season favorite to win it all.
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I can't believe people put so much faith in Sexy Rexy. The kid will meltdown under pressure. We've seen it twice this season already. His D just happens to save his ass everytime.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
I can't believe people put so much faith in Sexy Rexy. The kid will meltdown under pressure. We've seen it twice this season already. His D just happens to save his ass everytime.
I don't think he's had any meltdown's at all, in fact he's made a few brilliant plays. I think what you are calling meltdown's are really just situations where he's been encouraged to take a few risks. I'm sure the coach has given him the green light to take some chances knowing that the defense can hold in tough spots. It's a classic risk/reward scenario. So far it's paid off to the tune of 8 TD passes, to three INT's from Grossman and the second highest passer rating in the NFC (100.8).
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I think the week 3 INT to start the 4th quarter against Minnesota would qualify as a meltdown, returned 7 yards for a TD. Just ugly.
Fortunately for him, the defense got the ball back (or Brad Johnson gave the ball back to Chicago as it were), and Grossman only had to go 37 yards to take the lead. They couldn't sustain any drives in that game, relying on a short TD off a TO and 3 field goals. They really should have lost that game 13-9, with Grossman providing Minnesota it's only TD.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
I think the week 3 INT to start the 4th quarter against Minnesota would qualify as a meltdown, returned 7 yards for a TD. Just ugly.
Fortunately for him, the defense got the ball back (or Brad Johnson gave the ball back to Chicago as it were), and Grossman only had to go 37 yards to take the lead. They couldn't sustain any drives in that game, relying on a short TD off a TO and 3 field goals. They really should have lost that game 13-9, with Grossman providing Minnesota it's only TD.
Being a bit harsh aren't you? I mean is it a meltdown every time a QB throws a pick and it gets returned for a TD? I think as long as you do what it takes to secure the win or at least your part, you can avoid the "meltdown" tag.
I'm not saying that Grossman is the second coming of Joe Montana, but he's looked very solid so far this season. He's going to make mistakes, but he's young and inexperienced. In games that Grossman has played in Chicago is 9-3, that's pretty respectable for a QB with less than one full season's experience under his belt.
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Originally posted by Shadrach:
Being a bit harsh aren't you? I mean is it a meltdown every time a QB throws a pick and it gets returned for a TD? I think as long as you do what it takes to secure the win or at least your part, you can avoid the "meltdown" tag.
I freely admit to being harsh. But did you see the week 3 int (http://www.nfl.com/video/2006/3) in the first pressure situation he was in?
Even before he got hurt in his previous NFL starts, his ratings were terrible. But what has he really done this season?
He put up good numbers at home against two of the weakest D's in the league (Detroit and Green Bay), struggled mightily and nearly threw the game away on the road against the only top 10 defense he faced (Minny), and won a primetime night game at home (huge advantage!) against a good NFC team playing without one of the best running backs in the league. And people are lauding his accomplishments because his team is 4-0.
His team is 4-0 because the defense is the best in the league. The offense is the same - Mushin Muhammad is 33 years old (!) and he's the #1 receiver - and Berrian has come out of nowhere to be a serviceable #2. How long do you think that's going to last? I say one more week before teams adjust. Desmond Clark had better stay healthy - Justin Gage and 4 guys with in their first or second year is the rest of the passing game. Jones is averaging 69 yards a game because the playbook reads just like I laid it out - let the passing game beat you. But the truth is, the kicking game has been carrying the Bears, not Rex. Robbie Gould leads the league in scoring. When the defense is that good and the kicker leads the league in scoring that's the sign of a bad offense. Defense controls the field position for the kicking game.
The Bears have a really nice schedule, will go 2-2 against their AFC opponents exposing Rex, and cruise into the playoffs. They will then be blown out in the playoffs. And the Bears faithful will blame Rex, if he's still healthy then.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
Justin Gage
as my wife is wont to say- Justin Gage from....Missouri.
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
Justin Gage from....Missouri.
i loved watching him play basketball, its hard to remember there was a time when Missouri basketball was worth watching, maybe this year will at least be entertaining
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Originally posted by pdx pollard:
Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
Justin Gage from....Missouri.
i loved watching him play basketball, its hard to remember there was a time when Missouri basketball was worth watching, maybe this year will at least be entertaining [/b]
well, we've been treating vansmack to a good helping of mizzou football this year. . .wife and i are gonna be at the colorado/baylor game in boulder this weekend, so smackie gets a break from watching another televised mizzou game on saturday night against tech.
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
well, we've been treating vansmack to a good helping of mizzou football this year. . .wife and i are gonna be at the colorado/baylor game in boulder this weekend, so smackie gets a break from watching another televised mizzou game on saturday night against tech.
tech would be a huge win, i would finally start taking them seriously if they get a win there, although the lack of an early season let down this year has made me get my hopes up already
colorado/baylor? ouch
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Originally posted by pdx pollard:
colorado/baylor? ouch
well, i went to baylor and wife's sister goes to colorado. . .it's colorado homecoming, and a baylor win would be really fun (not to mention my school and my wife's school both would have beaten colorado).
the big 12 is just getting worse and worse, every year. i just hope 1) that baylor sometime in my lifetime makes a bowl game, and 2) for my wife's sake, that mizzou doesn't turn into minnesota, scheduling cupcake out of conference games then getting killed in conference play.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by Shadrach:
Being a bit harsh aren't you? I mean is it a meltdown every time a QB throws a pick and it gets returned for a TD? I think as long as you do what it takes to secure the win or at least your part, you can avoid the "meltdown" tag.
I. But the truth is, the kicking game has been carrying the Bears, not Rex. Robbie Gould leads the league in scoring. When the defense is that good and the kicker leads the league in scoring that's the sign of a bad offense. Defense controls the field position for the kicking game.
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Gould is actually tied with Wilkins for the scoring lead, only Gould has kicked 6 more extra points than Wilkins. This means that the Chicago offense is scoring more TD's.
Oh and by the way Rex Grossman was just named NFC offensive player of the month.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
and won a primetime night game at home (huge advantage!) against a good NFC team playing without one of the best running backs in the league. And people are lauding his accomplishments because his team is 4-0.
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Last time I checked, Shaun Alexander did not play cornerback or rushed the quarterback, so having him in the game would not effect his performance.
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"Won't you join me for some fine dining? And then afterwards, darling, we can retire to the presidential suite for a little game of touch football...hehe if you know what I mean, nudge, nudge."
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Originally posted by Shadrach:
Gould is actually tied with Wilkins for the scoring lead, only Gould has kicked 6 more extra points than Wilkins. This means that the Chicago offense is scoring more TD's.
Great, they're out scoring the Rams in a rebuilding year post Mike Martz. Now I'm convinced the Bears are going to win the Super Bowl. And BTW, the Rams are the worst team in the NFC in the Red Zone - just ask every Steven Jackson owner in fantasy.
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Originally posted by Buck Satan:
Last time I checked, Shaun Alexander did not play cornerback or rushed the quarterback, so having him in the game would not effect his performance.
Really? Ever tried to control the clock or field position without a running game?
Seattle had three drives of over 20 yards the entire game, every other time it was no more than 5 plays. And not once did Seattle start a drive beyond their own 40. If that doesn't tire out your defense, I don't know what does.
The turning point of that game was the defense giving the Bears great field position in the second quarter for three consecutive drives - all starting inside the Seattle 40 after two INTs and a fumble. And all within 5 minutes.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by Shadrach:
Gould is actually tied with Wilkins for the scoring lead, only Gould has kicked 6 more extra points than Wilkins. This means that the Chicago offense is scoring more TD's.
Great, they're out scoring the Rams in a rebuilding year post Mike Martz. Now I'm convinced the Bears are going to win the Super Bowl. And BTW, the Rams are the worst team in the NFC in the Red Zone - just ask every Steven Jackson owner in fantasy. [/b]
Well I am a Jackson owner and my fantasy team is currently 3-1. Of course I'm heavily invested in St. Louis since I have Jackson, Wilkins and Bulger. Last week those three won that game for me.
If you're in a TD heavy league then Jackson hasn't been great, although he did get his first TD last week and plays Green Bay this week. He does have a boat load of yards though and I think the TD's will keep coming as that offense becomes more comfortable under their new head coach.
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I'm on page 688 of the Al Saunders offensive playbook...12 more pages of 5 wide-receivers formation and I'll be able to predict Super Bowl appearance fer the SKINSsssssssssss
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I admit to being a Bulger owner.
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Originally posted by Shadrach:
Oh and by the way Rex Grossman was just named NFC offensive player of the month.
<img src="http://www.redskins.com/uploads/photos/perm/main/DKELCMGKFANM/DSC_0025portis765.jpg" alt=" - " />
Much to the dismay of Dolemite Jenkins. (http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=20555)
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How 'bout that game last night? The only who looked worse than Grossman was Neil Rackers.
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
How 'bout that game last night? The only who looked worse than Grossman was Neil Rackers.
MIRACLE GAME. DREAM SEASON. TEAM OF DESTINY.
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yeah, how bout that rex grossman led comback. . errr, no. . .wait. 4 int's and 2 fumbles. yikes. good thing the bears have a defense and special teams that can make up for grossman's many, many mistakes.
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i picked up grossman in week 3 for my fantasy team. i also have berrian. going into the game last night, i was down by 5; that was until grossman went and picked up -10 pts for me. yaaaayyy.
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Grossman's QB rating last night: 10.7
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You should all be happy that I fractured my thumb this weekend, otherwise there would be another smackie novel here.
Sexy Rexy couldn't have proven my thoughts on the Bears any better then he did last night. There are 3 teams in football that wouldn't have put the Bears up for a 45-7 drubbing last night, and one of them is the Arizona Cardinals. Of course we did see a new face in the pantheon of sports faces last night - the Matt Leinart "Please Trade Me Now" Face, and in only his second start!
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Originally posted by vansmack:
You should all be happy that I fractured my thumb this weekend, otherwise there would be another smackie novel here.
Sexy Rexy couldn't have proven my thoughts on the Bears any better then he did last night. There are 3 teams in football that wouldn't have put the Bears up for a 45-7 drubbing last night, and one of them is the Arizona Cardinals. Of course we did see a new face in the pantheon of sports faces last night - the Matt Leinart "Please Trade Me Now" Face, and in only his second start!
I'll take the win and the 6-0 start.
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Originally posted by callat703:
I'll take the win and the 6-0 start.
I'll take the 7-5 Steelers from last year spending the first 12 weeks how to make a QB out of Ben Rothlisberger, winning 4 in a row and making the playoffs, only to run the table using luck in the playoffs when it matters, and not in the regular season to beat crappy opponents like Arizona.
How quickly everybody forgets that the Bears won 8 in row last year and 10 of their last 12 (soft schedule again) only to let Delhomme and Smith look like Montana to Rice in the first round at home. Oh, that's right, they've got Sexy Rexy now - he's a driver, he's a winner; things are gonna change, I can feel it. At some point Bears fans are going to realize that 2006 is no different than 2005.
This is the real problem with fantasy football. Nobody's watching the team any more, they're simply watching players. That's probably why the Colts always get such high odds....
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seriously, its week 7. team of destiny, pfft
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I'm having some serious trouble over here trying to post a picture of the Redskins.
Maybe the internet saw them suck it up last Sunday.
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Originally posted by Relaxer:
We'll see about those Giants. The team hates the coach, the defense is suspect (nice move Lavarr) and if Eli goes down, those shit-hot receivers can't do much if they don't have the ball. Philly and Dallas will collapse mid-season, and the Skins might actually have a shot at the division.
Nice prediction... I love Skins fans.
Go G-Men
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remember super bowl xl?
good times
:(
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this past weekend was a killer in my survivor pool - more people dropped out yesterday then in all the prior weeks combined. the vikings killed my hopes. KC, GB, TB, oakland and houston also helped thin the field...
what a sunday.
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
what a sunday.
i was in tampa yesterday, staying at a hotel near the stadium that was packed with philly fans ... sweet sweet justice ...
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Originally posted by Shadrach:
I don't think he's had any meltdown's at all, in fact he's made a few brilliant plays. I think what you are calling meltdown's are really just situations where he's been encouraged to take a few risks.
What do you think now?
That was a 36.8 QB rating against the second tough D the Bears have faced this year. And even more frightening - this time it was at home.
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The Skins are going to the Super Bowl!
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As much as I love the Redskins, I think we're going 7-9 this year. Which I'm totally cool with after yesterday's gift from god win.
Praise god.
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Originally posted by vansmack:
The Bears have a really nice schedule,
Check.
Originally posted by vansmack:
will go 2-2 against their AFC opponents exposing Rex,
Check.
Originally posted by vansmack:
and cruise into the playoffs.
Check.
Originally posted by vansmack:
They will then be blown out in the playoffs. And the Bears faithful will blame Rex, if he's still healthy then.
I guess we will wait and see on this one, but I can't wait for tomorrow morning's Chicago press to see what the faithful think about Sexy Rexy these days. One diehard fan I know was none too pleased this weekend.
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Originally posted by freakoretardo:
As much as I love the Redskins, I think we're going 7-9 this year. Which I'm totally cool with after yesterday's gift from god win.
Praise god.
lol
at least we have a QB which can throw the DB.
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Originally posted by brusie:
Originally posted by Relaxer:
We'll see about those Giants. The team hates the coach, the defense is suspect (nice move Lavarr) and if Eli goes down, those shit-hot receivers can't do much if they don't have the ball. Philly and Dallas will collapse mid-season, and the Skins might actually have a shot at the division.
Nice prediction... I love Skins fans.
Go G-Men [/b]
def a nice pass by eli though...
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I haven't watched an NFL game in over 20 years, and I must say my Sundays have been all the better for it. We went on a lovely bike ride from just south of Old Town into Georgetown for pizza yesterday and rode back. Beats the hell out of sitting in front of the boob toob!
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I haven't watched an NFL game in over 20 years, and I must say my Sundays have been all the better for it. We went on a lovely bike ride from just south of Old Town into Georgetown for pizza yesterday and rode back. Beats the hell out of sitting in front of the boob toob!
Wow. I am so glad I am not you.
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Originally posted by Steny Hoyer, Pubic Destroyer:
I haven't watched an NFL game in over 20 years, and I must say my Sundays have been all the better for it. We went on a lovely bike ride from just south of Old Town into Georgetown for pizza yesterday and rode back. Beats the hell out of sitting in front of the boob toob!
rhett, you lead such a rich life
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You better watch out, or that smug cloud is going to get you...JACKED UP!
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He'll be back in front of the tv when NASCAR starts back up.
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Partially true, I'll admit. But I typically only watch maybe the last 90 minutes of a race, and then only if we don't have anything else going on!
Originally posted by Señor Carlos:
He'll be back in front of the tv when NASCAR starts back up.
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1.3 Passer rating. I didn't even know that was possible!
6/19, 34 yards, 1.8 avg yards per completion, 3 INT, no TD's.
Thanks to the defense, they only had to go, 33 yards on their only scoring drive. It was the defense and special teams that put up 16 points.
Oh, but they clinched. And they are in BIG trouble. We've come a long way from the NFC Offensive Player of the Month. Or have we?
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I talked to my Rex Grossman statuette this morning, which "features Rex in his trowing motion going deep," which I find very perplexing 'cause I haven't seen him go deep throat much more than throw deep this season, and he says that he has been in full preparation these past two weeks and that he's feeling good.
<img src="http://store.chicagobears.com/assets/items/2738.jpg" alt=" - " />
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1.3 Passer rating. I didn't even know that was possible!
How about 0.0?
2/12, 33 yds, 0 TDs, 3 INTs.
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how bout my ravens
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GO RAVENS!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm nervous about the game this week, but I think we can take the Colts. And, being a born and raised Baltimore girl, I hate the Colts.
I bought an Ed Reed jersey this weekend...
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I bought a Willis Reed jersey.
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how bout my ravens
Don't abandon the running game as quickly as the Chiefs did, and you can beat Indy.
It's obvious post prison Jamal Lewis is not the same Jamal Lewis of the Super Bowl year (or every year up to 2003), but you've got to control the clock. Short dump offs, whatever it takes, but the clock has to keep running. You won't win a shootout, but your defense is much more impressive than the Chiefs and Indy won't have the ability to mix it up as much as they did with the Chiefs. This is absolutely a winnable game for the Ravens, with the right gameplan.
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This is absolutely a winnable game for the Ravens, with the right gameplan.
i'd hope it's winnable, they are 4 point favorites! the colts have a history of losing big games in the playoffs, were a mediocre team on the road this season and get intimidated by physical play on defense. i'd take the ravens and the points, and hope that kyle boller doesn't figure prominently into the equation.
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I'm taking the Colts and the 4 points, but I think the Ravens win by 3.
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let's hope it's cold
peyton has trouble with that
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Yeah, he just doesn't know how to play if he's not in a dome!
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for those needing help making it through the off-season: i recommend dosing up on Bladderex and Temporistil (http://www.wired.com/news/columns/0,72437-0.html)
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The Curse of the Horseshoe! Indy has no chance. Mr. Poe will not allow it; especially on his home turf.
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Well done, Mr. Kane. (http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/bal-md.kane10xjan10,0,3340004.column?coll=bal-home-columnists)
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Did a Cleveland reporter submit a rebuttal yet?
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Barry Levinson weighs in. (http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-to.levinson11jan11,0,7212715.story?coll=bal-home-headlines)
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Cleveland got a team right away...they were on the block for quite some time. AND, they got to keep their name!
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Ohhhhh Puuuuhhllleeeeaaaazzzeeee!!!!!!!!
In 1996, the Baltimore Ravens were technically a new franchise although it maintained the roster of the Cleveland Browns, whose franchise was suspended until 1999. The transaction is widely viewed as a relocation, especially in Cleveland. On Nov 6, 1995, Art Modell agreed to move the team to Baltimore citing a bad satdium deal in Cleveland. On Nov 7, 1995, Cleveland voters approved a new stadium. HE DIDN'T WAIT FOR THE VOTE; HE JUST DROVE THE TRUCK WITH THE TEAM OUT.
I'm quite certain that the "new" Browns were quite pleased to see the "old" Browns win two division titles, one AFC Championship and of course a Super Bowl in the 6 years that the "new francshise has been painfully rebuilding. And I haven't even talked about the three years the best fans in football went without a team.
You've got dirty hands in Baltimore just like Indy. So stop with this higher than thou attitude.
<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/c2/Modell_move.jpg/200px-Modell_move.jpg" alt=" - " />
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It was obvious that Tagliaboo-boo had no intentions of putting an expansion team in Charm City. Carolina and Jacksonville?? Please. Sometimes ya gotta do what ya gotta do.
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Right. I understand.
Do unto to others as you had done to you.
But do you really get to take the high road and accuse others of betrayal when you learned nothing from it? I think not.
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If only the name, the colors and the history remained where they rightfully belong, maybe we could get over it.
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Jason La Canfora of the Washington Post:
To compare Baltimore and Cleveland is whack.
Baltimore went 12 years without a team, was twice passed over for expansion (Jacksonville and Carolina? Pleeeeze). All of the city's history is in the friggin Indy media guide. Turn on NFL Netwrok right now and you will probably see a commercial for the specail DVD on the history of the Indianapolis Colts, with Johnny U highlights all over the commercial.
That's a joke. Johnny U hated the Colts. Never stepped foot in Indy. That joker Irsay will probably throw a big bash in Indy celebrating the 50th anniversary of the '58 NFL title next year - cashing in off a history he and his father pirated - and I can guarantee you none of the guys still alive from that team would even go.
That's the difference, and it's a huge difference. The Browns got to keep everything, got a sparkling new stadium out of the deal, got fresh ownership and were out of the NFL for three years, immediatley guaranteed the Browns would be back by 1999.
There is no comparison. Without Baltimore's suffering, the Browns would not have received all of those assuranaces.
No one was overjoyed about the way it went down in 1996, but the NFL forced the city's hand. Had they done the right thing with expansion, it all could have been avoided.
Bob Irsay and the league, there's your villians on this one.
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You're abolutely right. BTW, Cleveland just called, they'd like Ozzie Newsome back. Being that you guys are the moral authority in all this, I'm sure you'll send him right over...
The fine people of Cleveland had no problem with everything but the name and the colors being taken from them. That's why they only filed 100 law suits and not 1000 - it's because they got to keep the image of Jim Brown. This went to Congress it was such a big deal!
Come on! The NFL is certainly partially to blame for both departures, but to say that Irsay and Modell aren't the same person is absolutely ludicrous. How many games did the Ravens play in Memorial Stadium? What's that you say, they got a new stadium too? Oh wow, this looks more and more like the same deal to me every time I look at it...
How quickly you forget that the last series of downs in Cleveland had to be moved to the other side of the field because the DAWG POUND had gotten so restless...
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ROT IN HELL ART MODELL
and yes, balmer should have know better
cleveland was one of the best football cities in america
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Time of Possession:
Indy 31:24
Baltimore 28:36
30 pass attempts, leading to 4 turnovers, compared to 20 rush attempts, leading to zero turnovers. Bad gameplan. If you're going to have a convservative offensive scheme, at least try to kill the clock with the running game...
And since I was 2 for 2 taking the dogs today, I will offer the same advice for Sunday's games - take the points. Might even make sense to tease both dogs as they both have legitimate chances to win.
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All McNair had to do is not make mistakes. McNair SUCKED
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Time to jump back on the Chargers bandwagon!
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what was up with walking off the field before the half with a minute left and all your timeouts
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Billick's gameplan was vanilla awful. And McNair picked a bad time to have his worst game of the year.
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The Ravens offense is worse than vanilla. Its like cottage cheese or that flavorless yogurt. But they did get rolling on a number of occasions yesterday until drives (and momentum) were killed w/ turnovers or penalities. I thought Billick's decision to run out the clock seemed justifiable at the time - he didn't trust McNair to not do something stupid. The offense isn't built to force the issue. They need to methodically make plays running Bo Schembechler's offense from 1971 and if nothing happens punt, wait for the D to do something awesome, get the ball back and try again. But in a game coming down to FGs, w/ a good kicker, they should have tried to pick up 40 yds. They had potentially a lot of plays to work with. Maybe the Ravens' 3 and out start the game happened so quickly Bilick forgot that Indy kicked off and he thought the Ravens were getting the ball to start the second half.
Still, not as idiotic as Andy Reid punting w/ 2 minutes left.
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everyone needs to quit sleeping on the bears already, they are a damn good team.
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Ka-ching!
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so, thoughts about new england's performance yesterday?
i saw glimmers of the brady that led them to three titles in four years. that last drive of the first half was brilliant. brady was pissed at his first-half performance, and turned that anger into determination. they more or less shut down LT in the second half, which is what they needed to do from the start. i think they can take the colts if they can get brady to stay in that mindset. and if i can put in a request to NE from a fan: those need-to-make end-of-game drives, while thrilling, are wreaking havoc on my life expectancy. how about we go for the kind of victory we witnessed against the jets? thanks.
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after a while, i just expect to see those end of game drives....in fact, i just wait for them to happen now!
the Patriots have almost locked up another super bowl in my opinion. you just cant beat them, and they almost never beat themselves!
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I saw a Tom Brady who threw 3 picks and got very lucky on a couple plays. If Brown doesn't strip the ball recovered by Caldwell after that third interception we're not talking about Brady except for how poorly he played. The Chargers beat themselves with dumb penalties dropped balls, muffed punts and not giving the ball back to Tomlinson on their second to last drive. San Diego was the better team, but New England got extremely lucky.
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I'm with Shadrach on this one. Other than the last drive, New England did very little to earn this game. I've never seen a game where a team did as much to give the game away as San Diego did. And truthfully, though I was betting against Marty and Rivers, most of the mistakes were not their fault.
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but thats what New England does! they dont have to be better than you, but you'll lose to em anyway. the chargers may have won this game against many other teams, but not the Patriots.
what did they (Patriots) have 21 points off of turnovers?
i'll never buy the "better team lost the game" line. unless you wanna blame the referees or something.
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the better team lost that game.
too many stupid penalties, absurd crazy shit (the fumble after the INT that he should have just batted down because it was 4th down)
obviously the pats played well when they needed to, but they (brady in particular) also stunk it up for much of the game, and it was clear that the chargers were the better team ... i felt really bad for them at the end
looks like the colts have the best shot they've ever had at the pats ... the pats this year aren't half the team of their super bowl years, and nothing i've seen this season or post-season contradicts that
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the better team doesnt muff punts, headbutt opposing teams players after a 3rd down stop, pointlessly try to run back almost game clinching interceptions, or give up a game winning drive in the last 2 minutes when they hadnt give up one of such drives all game long.
the better team made less mistakes, and THAT was the New England Patriots.
and no worries, cause the colts ever get the lead next sunday.
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I don't understand why guys try for the pick on 4th down. Unless they bring it all the way back it makes more sense to just knock the ball down.
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sonick, we'll agree to disagree
i just hate seeing a game won by a team like the patriots on so much bullshit ... i was praying on every punt / tricky situation on saturday that the colts wouldn't lose on some similar kind of play ... this is peyton's year
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The more talented team lost. The better team won.
Its hard to bet against the Colts at home, but its even harder to bet against Brady and the Patriots braintrust finding gaps in the Colts cover 2 (which is as predictable as the Ravens O) and the Pats D rattling Peyton.
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i am starting to wish i hadnt picked the Bears / Colts super bowl game a few weeks back.
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mobius: well said. the bolts were definitely the flashier team - those 12-yard LT rushes were amazing. but i can't help but think that experience and patience gave the edge to the pats.
sonick: don't shred up your betting card just yet... the only reason i'm mildly confident that the pats can pull through is because the colts didn't do much offensively this past weekend. hopefully payton will continue his post-season tendency to flame out. but i'm not willing to bet cash on it.
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mobius. . .you got it right. . .that was just a bad mistake- if you go for it and don't make it, you can afford to give up a field goal, but if you punt, and don't stop the team, it's over. just dumb. i expect easterbrook to bring this up.
also dumb, although it didn't end up mattering, at the end of the first half, lovie smith not using one of his 3 remaining time outs when there were 10 seconds left in the half and giving devin hester a shot a running a punt back, instead using it with 2 seconds. geez. . .
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Gregg Easterbrook Says:[/b]
Then the Saints forced the visiting team into fourth-and-15 from its 39-yard line, 1:56 remaining, Philadelphia holding two timeouts. You cannot under any circumstances even consider punting! Boom went the punt, and needless to say Philadelphia never touched the ball again. Sure, fourth-and-15 is a long down, but I seem to remember the Eagles' converting a fourth-and-26 in the playoffs. Anyway, it's do-or-die, you must go for it! With Philadelphia having only two timeouts, the best outcome for the punt was that New Orleans would be stopped on its possession and kick the ball back, giving Philadelphia roughly the same field position with one minute and no timeouts. This outcome assumes Philadelphia can stop New Orleans from gaining a clock-zeroing 10 yards in three tries, and to that point New Orleans had rushed for 5.7 yards per attempt. Of course, Philadelphia was not able to prevent those 10 yards. A fourth-and-15 try was more promising than a passive punt -- and then if you fail, you go down swinging.
And...
Trailing 9-3, Baltimore took possession on its 20 with 1:05 remaining in the first half, holding two timeouts. Billick had the Ravens run the ball into the line twice and then trot to the locker room, never calling the timeouts despite quickly gaining a first down. Huh? What? This is the playoffs, there is no tomorrow! Allow me to rephrase: Huh? What?
And...
Indianapolis leading 12-3 midway through the third quarter, Billick ordered a punt on fourth-and-4 from the Colts' 41. Not only does the average NFL play gain about 5 yards: you're down by two scores in the second half in opposition territory in the playoffs. Why are you punting???????????? I scarcely need tell you it took Indianapolis just two snaps to pass the point where the ball would have been had Baltimore gone for it and missed. By going for it here, Billick could have kept a scoring drive alive and told his players he was challenging them to win the game. By launching a mincing fraidy-cat punt he told his players the coaches had quit on the game, so they might as well quit too. As Indianapolis quickly roared past the point of the Preposterous Punt, Dan Dierdorf solemnly intoned, "Brian Billick felt like he had a great chance to get his offense great field position" with a defensive stop. Billick's offense just had great field position, and passively surrendered the ball.
That's some serisouly ballless coaching, and the football gods chortled.
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Turnovers killed the Ravens. These decisions by Billick would have been inconsequential if the Ravens didn't kill themselves with turnovers. And Dungy called just as bad of a game.
Maybe Billick overreacted to McNair's tragic INT at the goal line, but it can't be understated how terrible a decision it was to throw that ball. Billick's subsequent decisions not to ask McNair to "make something happen" seemed responsible, like not asking your friend to drive you home after he does a bunch of jager shots and pukes on your shoes.
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anyone know how the game came to be known as "football"? I googled to no avail.
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American football has its origin in varieties of football played in the United Kingdom in the mid-19th century, and American football is directly descended from rugby football.
They simply kept the name, despite changing a majority of the rules.
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awesome... this dude is either clueless or he's desperate for cash and is happy to embarrass himself for a little coin.
Federline signed to do Super Bowl ad
COLUMBUS, Ohio - Britney Spears no longer wants him as her husband and audiences have been cool to his attempt at a rap music career, but Kevin Federline has Nationwide on his side.
Nationwide Mutual Insurance Co., known for its "On Your Side" slogan, plans to run a national ad during the Super Bowl, and K-Fed has been tapped to star, the Columbus-based company announced Wednesday.
The 30-second spot, to air during the third quarter of the Feb. 4 game, will be the latest installment in Nationwide's "Life Comes at You Fast" ad campaign. Previous celebrity ads in the series have featured Fabio and M.C. Hammer.
In the new commercial, Federline, 28, goes from starring in a rap video surrounded by beauties and bling to working at a fast-food joint.
"No one has personified `Life Comes at You Fast' in the media better than Federline," said Steven Schreibman, Nationwide vice president of advertising and brand management. "Our partnership with Kevin shows the world that he has a great sense of humor."
Spears, 25, filed for divorce from Federline in November after two years of marriage. The couple agreed to share custody of their sons, 3-month-old Jayden James and 1-year-old Sean Preston, for this month, but after that, Federline will be allowed visits three afternoons per week.
His debut rap album, "Playing With Fire," sold a dismal 6,500 copies in its first week of release last fall.
link (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070117/ap_en_ot/people_federline)
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i guess k-fed wrasslin' career isn't taking off.
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I've come to the realization that the real reason the Ravens lost is because I made Steve McNair my desktop background. I'm such a faggot. (http://afterelton.logo-blogs.com/2007/01/17/tr-knight-talks-says-washington-did-call-him-faggot/)
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So I'm not much of a football fan, but I gotta think that you Baltimore folks must at least be a little bit excited that the Colts are in the Super Bowl. Right?
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Didn't you hear about the parade?
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Where's Sonick?
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in baltimore
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To all the Bears and Colts fans - good luck this weekend and enjoy your Super Bowl. To the rest of you, don't beat your significant other.
I took the points - first time I've bet on Rex Grossman all season....but 7 is a lot for the best defense in the Super Bowl to be getting. Had to do it.
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did the same thing....i think the 7 is a ridiculous margin for this matchup, and I actually think the bears will win straight up
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thanks rob for thinking of me. but i am not a ravens fan. i pull for Green Bay if i have to root for someone. other than that, the NFL isnt really my bag.
that said, i do hope the bears pull the upset.
(and i DID call bears/colts in the big game a while back!!!)
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All this support for the Bears is crazy talk. :D
No way Grossman is ready for primetime. It's gonna take a monumental F###-up (multiple turnovers/special teams tds) for Indy not to be hoisting the trophy.
Plus it's sure gonna be great to watch Baltimore squirm after the Colts add another chapter to their storied past. [a Pittsburgh Steelers fan's opinion]
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No way Grossman is ready for primetime. It's gonna take a monumental F###-up (multiple turnovers/special teams tds) for Indy not to be hoisting the trophy.
Yeah, the Bears aren't good at these things AT ALL....
Today, Colts just stands for one thing:
Count
On
Losing
The
Super Bowl
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Care to wager Calla?!?!?
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I feel like a prophet. Grossman is awful.
And I seriously wonder if the Bears would have even made the playoffs in the AFC.
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I feel like a prophet. Grossman is awful.
I wouldn't pat yourself on the back for predicting Grossman is awful and would fuck things up. That's not exactly a high-level prediction.
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True dat - unless you did it on Oct 4.
Anyhow, I consider this the Blink theory in effect. In the first instance is saw Sexy Rexy (preseason against the Niners, I thought, this guy's terrible). Then I watched him play, definitely knew he could never win a Super Bowl, but by kick off I convinced myself that he might not make any mistakes and his team could come within 7 points. God dammit. Trust the first 2 seconds - the kid just doesn't have it, and I lost my last NFL bet of the season. Whore.
I knew the guy blew and I forgot all that I learned in the first 2 months of the season. Sexy Rexy is an AWFUL QB. Remind me again next year when the Bears clean up on the NFC Norse.
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prince singing the foo fighters was the highlight of the whole night!
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We missed the whole thing. But I did get a review secondhand from some guy on the Metro.
He told the woman sitting next to him, "I turned it over to the Halftime Show, and I'm glad I did. Because there was Prince, and he was doing well."
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Bears clean up on the NFC Norse.
for the longest time I thought it was the Norris division because of the rough style of play that used to be common in the NHL's Norris Division, yeah I dont do football all that much
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I love me some Prince...anxious to see him again.
Prince @ halftime:
Part 2 (the best part with Foo's segue & purple rain):
http://youtube.com/watch?v=q4CGK7uv1S8 (http://youtube.com/watch?v=q4CGK7uv1S8)
Part 1:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=3sl7UxWWs_c (http://youtube.com/watch?v=3sl7UxWWs_c)
...a very, very under-rated guitar player...
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Why is nobody talking about the shadow penis?
...borderline Janet Jackson-esque.
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Janet Jackson has a penis?
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U2 2002 halftime:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=5f1sHk1Kttw&mode=related&search= (http://youtube.com/watch?v=5f1sHk1Kttw&mode=related&search=)
Remember when the rest of the world still liked & admired the USA? :(
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Plus it's sure gonna be great to watch Baltimore squirm after the Colts add another chapter to their storied past. [a Pittsburgh Steelers fan's opinion]
HELL YEAH
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the NFL doesn't have relegation, but this might be the closest thing... rough.
Colts-Pats flexed to earlier time slot
NEW YORK -- That Indianapolis Colts-New England Patriots matchup that looked so attractive in the preseason is losing its prime-time slot.
With Indianapolis winless and Peyton Manning-less, the NFL already has decided to move the Dec. 4 game off "Sunday Night Football" under its flexible scheduling policy. The league will decide on a replacement by Nov. 22. The NFL said Tuesday that the game at New England would now be at 1 p.m. on CBS.
The critical NFC East matchup between the Philadelphia Eagles and New York Giants on Nov. 20 will remain on Sunday night on NBC. The Titans-Falcons game that day will move from 1 p.m. to 4:15 on CBS.
The NFL can use flexible scheduling starting in Week 10 to ensure meaningful matchups in high-profile time slots.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7208261/nfl-flexes-indianapolis-colts-new-england-patriots-prime-time-week-13
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ROT IN HELL ART MODELL
and yes, balmer should have know better
cleveland was one of the best football cities in america
Browns Fan Urinates on Art Modell's Grave (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11253861/cleveland-browns-fan-urinates-late-baltimore-ravens-owner-art-modell-grave)
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ROT IN HELL ART MODELL
and yes, balmer should have know better
cleveland was one of the best football cities in america
Browns Fan Urinates on Art Modell's Grave (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11253861/cleveland-browns-fan-urinates-late-baltimore-ravens-owner-art-modell-grave)
So, so classy. We never did that to Irsay.
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I gave up on the NFL last year. It was a great decision.
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Ray Rice suspended for 2 games (loses pay for 3) for knocking out his wife
thoughts?
nfl seems to say smoking pot is worse than hitting a woman
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Ray Rice suspended for 2 games (loses pay for 3) for knocking out his wife
thoughts?
nfl seems to say smoking pot is worse than hitting a woman
This:
I gave up on the NFL last year. It was a great decision.
Though I am pretty excited that I'm having lunch and a tour of the 49ers new stadium this afternoon.
To hear the talking heads discuss this, however, has been beyond cringe worthy. Unbelievable. (http://deadspin.com/first-take-discusses-a-womans-responsibility-to-avoid-b-1610831462?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_facebook&utm_source=deadspin_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow)
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Unbelievable. (http://deadspin.com/first-take-discusses-a-womans-responsibility-to-avoid-b-1610831462?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_facebook&utm_source=deadspin_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow)
Good God, is there a volume lower than mute?
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I understand what he's saying though.
In no way does it justify a man losing his shit and resorting to violence, but there are definitely women who will purposely and unnecessarily say provocative shit to get a man's blood to boil.
Or so I've heard.
Unbelievable. (http://deadspin.com/first-take-discusses-a-womans-responsibility-to-avoid-b-1610831462?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_facebook&utm_source=deadspin_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow)
Good God, is there a volume lower than mute?
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In no way does it justify a man losing his shit and resorting to violence, but there are definitely women who will purposely and unnecessarily say provocative shit to get a man's blood to boil.
Well, yes. I mean, I'm certain she wasn't being delightful and all of a sudden he punched her in the face because of how docile and charming she was.
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On Friday, the Ravens signed free safety Will Hill, who was a free agent after being waived by the New York Giants in June. The Giants parted ways with Hill after his third drug suspension in three years.
Impeccable timing.
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Does anyone know of a decent, free site that streams games? Can't get Fox 45 on Fios.
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Does anyone know of a decent, free site that streams games? Can't get Fox 45 on Fios.
http://xn--athe-1ua.net
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On Friday, the Ravens signed free safety Will Hill, who was a free agent after being waived by the New York Giants in June. The Giants parted ways with Hill after his third drug suspension in three years.
Impeccable timing.
In hindsight - what a great decision!
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This is probably worse than hitting your soon-to-be wife in an elevator. But there's no video. So we might not hear about it.
http://deadspin.com/colts-linebacker-josh-mcnary-charged-with-rape-1679572197
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I think the NFL is going to look at the eligible / ineligible rule in the off-season. You have to give the D time to adjust. Belichick walks right up to the line of legality. And sometimes crosses it.
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I think the NFL is going to look at the eligible / ineligible rule in the off-season. You have to give the D time to adjust. Belichick walks right up to the line of legality. And sometimes crosses it.
oh i don't know..i think it makes the game more dynamic..i like it....
that is the positive about American Football: it constantly evolves and changes...
the Packers were a disgrace today.. they gave that game away because once they were up they thought they could stop playing.....glad it worked out for Seattle.. you have to want it.. you have to go for it and grab it by the jugular.
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#deflategate
or
#flaccidballsgate
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UGH how many times do I have to witness the Patriots losing a fucking Super Bowl.
I think they'll win. But whenever I think a team is a shoe in, they lose. So, I guess Seattle will win? Seattle played like DOG SHIT. AT HOME. Ugh. That game was so fucking boring and painful. The only justice will be the Pats steam rolling the Hawks back to their gloomy city.
This over a Broncos/Packers Super Bowl!? COME ON NFL, YOU CANT FIX THIS!? Gah!
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UGH how many times do I have to witness the Patriots losing a fucking Super Bowl.
Just like the rest of all those annoying NE fans. So spoiled. How many teams don't even MAKE it to
the Super Bowl? And it's not like the Pats are the Bills - they actually WON a few.
It would be nice if they could just rely on their talent and not resort to tricks and cheating though.
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I'm so sick of seeing that god damn team in the Super Bowl.
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I'm weird I guess.. I like the Patriots.. they have the best coach since Bill Walsh....and maybe the best QB since Montana....and I like watching teams that play well and are well coached...
I also really like their "go for the jugular" approach...if they had been the Packers yesterday they would have stopped playing once they were up 21-7......
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I mean, I love watching them play. I always loved the battles they had with Indy, but it's just.... it becomes grating. I wanted to see Peyton go out on top. I wanted to see Aaron Rodgers go for another Lombardi. I thought that would have been a great story. Now it's a Seattle team that played like horse shit vs a Pats team that seems to be rolling into the Super Bowl. But who knows.
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I wanted to see Peyton go out on top.
I wanted to see Peyton die on the field and with his dying breathe admit he was a homosexual power bottom.
As such, I greatly enjoy any success Brady (his natural foil) has. I hope he wins 5 Super Bowls and Luck gets at least 2. Fuck Peyton.
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I love Peyton Manning.
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I have nothing against either team. I think this shapes up as a good storyline. The old dynasty vs. the potential new one. The Seahawks didn't look so hot yesterday, but as Tom Jackson pointed out, even after tossing 4 picks, they never stopped playing aggressively and it paid off. And as my beloved Giants have shown - twice - Brady and the Pats can be beaten in the big game no matter how hot they are when they enter.
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I think this shapes up as a good storyline. The old dynasty vs. the potential new one. The Seahawks didn't look so hot yesterday, but as Tom Jackson pointed out, even after tossing 4 picks, they never stopped playing aggressively and it paid off. And as my beloved Giants have shown - twice - Brady and the Pats can be beaten in the big game no matter how hot they are when they enter.
I agree with that.
I also like that both teams are the #1 seeds. I hate the concept of a single-elimination playoff featuring 40% of the league's teams as its an absolute affront to logic, reasoning, and cognitive function, so its nice to actually see - you know - the best two teams in football play for the title instead of some random 10-6 team that go hot in the last month.
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Except for the NBA I'd say it's probably rare in any league that the two best teams during the regular season face each other for the championship.
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Except for the NBA I'd say it's probably rare in any league that the two best teams during the regular season face each other for the championship.
I think it's alot easier to swallow in the NHL and NBA when the system is designed to reduce variance as much as possible (massive home court advantages, best of 7) versus the NFL's system which is the statistical equivalent of taping half the teams names on a wall and throwing a dart.
As much as I hate soccer, EPL has the best system: base the champion on all the data points (i e. games) available and eschew the concept of a playoff altogether. Playoffs are super exciting and creating ratings; playoffs are also an asinine, illogical way to name a champion.
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League Sources: Patriots' Footballs Deflated (http://espn.go.com/boston/story/_/id/12202450/nfl-says-new-england-patriots-had-inflated-footballs-afc-championship-game)
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Marshawn Lynch Honored with New Weed Strain (http://www.tmz.com/2015/01/20/marshawn-lynch-weed-beastmode-marijuana-seahawks-super-bowl/)
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Except for the NBA I'd say it's probably rare in any league that the two best teams during the regular season face each other for the championship.
I think it's alot easier to swallow in the NHL and NBA when the system is designed to reduce variance as much as possible (massive home court advantages, best of 7) versus the NFL's system which is the statistical equivalent of taping half the teams names on a wall and throwing a dart.
As much as I hate soccer, EPL has the best system: base the champion on all the data points (i e. games) available and eschew the concept of a playoff altogether. Playoffs are super exciting and creating ratings; playoffs are also an asinine, illogical way to name a champion.
Two words not one. A LOT! :)
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Except for the NBA I'd say it's probably rare in any league that the two best teams during the regular season face each other for the championship.
Not saying that you implied so but that is not what playoffs are designed to do. If you simply want the two best regular season teams then just have them play for eh championship and do not go through the charade of a playoff.
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Except for the NBA I'd say it's probably rare in any league that the two best teams during the regular season face each other for the championship.
I think it's alot easier to swallow in the NHL and NBA when the system is designed to reduce variance as much as possible (massive home court advantages, best of 7) versus the NFL's system which is the statistical equivalent of taping half the teams names on a wall and throwing a dart.
As much as I hate soccer, EPL has the best system: base the champion on all the data points (i e. games) available and eschew the concept of a playoff altogether. Playoffs are super exciting and creating ratings; playoffs are also an asinine, illogical way to name a champion.
Two words not one. A LOT! :)
That is correct. As someone who is quite pedantic about grammar and spelling, I both welcome and appreciate your proper fisking of myself.
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I could give a crap about this superbowl. But, I am looking forward to Lenny Kravitz!
But the Seahawks and the Patriots are two of my most hated teams. And I don't even watch football anymore.
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Lenny Kravitz? Is he the half time show?
What the shit?
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It's Katy Perry, but he will be there too.
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League Sources: Patriots' Footballs Deflated (http://espn.go.com/boston/story/_/id/12202450/nfl-says-new-england-patriots-had-inflated-footballs-afc-championship-game)
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10153157734490809
(no, a facebook account is not required to view this video... same video in an uglier player available here (http://www.benstonium.com/videos.php?file=cialis.flv))
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It's Katy Perry, but he will be there too.
Why? Lenny Kravitz hasn't been relevant to music in over a decade. God damn gen pop.
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So? I like him.
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I could give a crap about this superbowl. But, I am looking forward to Lenny Kravitz!
But the Seahawks and the Patriots are two of my most hated teams. And I don't even watch football anymore.
I am actually hoping that there might be a way for both teams to lose.
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Lenny rulz!
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I saw Lenny wading through the crowd at the Stones show at Verizon Center in 13'.
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#nfllolz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTRmyXX6ipU
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So, in 2006 Brady and Manning petition the league to have each team supply its own footballs for each game. Then since 2007 something very odd has been happening.
Deflated: the Statistically Impossible Patriots Fumble Record (http://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/2015/01/23/deflated-patriots-statistically-impossible-fumble-record/)
Coincidence?
(http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/articles/sports/sports_nut/2015/01/150126_SN_chart01.jpg.CROP.original-original.jpg)
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^^^^ Plus any RB that fumbled was instantly benched. Pretty much until the next guy fumbled.
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Patriots Owner Found in Violation of "Half Your Age +7" Rule
(http://ballerwives.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/jay-z-beyonce-robert-kraft-girlfriend.jpg)
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Patriots Owner Found in Violation of "Half Your Age +7" Rule
Well, he lost his wife, who was his soulmate (or so I heard as she was passing) so he's clearly not ready to date yet.
I suspect he's just keeping her around until he's ready to date again, at which point she should be of age.
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Isn't the more egregious offense associating with a massively untalented woman and her drug dealer husband?
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Patriots Owner Found in Violation of "Half Your Age +7" Rule
Well, he lost his wife, who was his soulmate (or so I heard as she was passing) so he's clearly not ready to date yet.
I suspect he's just keeping her around until he's ready to date again, at which point she should be of age.
Actually, they've been "dating" for 2.5 years. They went public 11 months after his soulmate's death.
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So, in 2006 Brady and Manning petition the league to have each team supply its own footballs for each game. Then since 2007 something very odd has been happening.
Deflated: the Statistically Impossible Patriots Fumble Record (http://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/2015/01/23/deflated-patriots-statistically-impossible-fumble-record/)
Coincidence?
(http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/articles/sports/sports_nut/2015/01/150126_SN_chart01.jpg.CROP.original-original.jpg)
yo i got some 9/11 footage you got to see thats gonna make you really think
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yo i got some 9/11 footage you got to see thats gonna make you really think
I'm mostly dismissive of the whole ballghazi thing, but to what would you attribute the Patriots being several standard deviations from the mean better the 2nd lowest fumbling team? That running backs corp that no one has ever heard of?
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Actually, they've been "dating" for 2.5 years. They went public 11 months after his soulmate's death.
I will not acknowledge any more blasphemy on this matter for 14.5 more years.
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the argument is convincing if you accept that corrolation = causation. the easy thing to say is "well what else explains the change in fumbles" - dunno, but i'm not convinced it's having a little less air in there. i would love to hear from a RB how helpful it is having a ball at 11.5 psi instead of 12.5. i suspect it gives you a slightly better grip... but i maintain my (completely unfounded) belief that it doesn't account for that sharp a drop in fumbles. now maybe other things they started doing to the ball (scuffing, rubbing, etc) might explain it, but i just don't see how air pressure explains it.
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yo i got some 9/11 footage you got to see thats gonna make you really think
I'm mostly dismissive of the whole ballghazi thing, but to what would you attribute the Patriots being several standard deviations from the mean better the 2nd lowest fumbling team? That running backs corp that no one has ever heard of?
ben jarvis-green ellis never fumbled in NE, and he also never fumbled in college.
i attribute they rarely fumbled the ball to the fact that they had running backs that never fumbled the football. and as far as brady goes... he gets rid of the ball quick, especially from 2008-2013 where they focused on quick passes to guys like wes welker.
also, who ever said carrying a deflated football as a running back equals better ball security?
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people just want to hate on the Pats
;D
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Actually, they've been "dating" for 2.5 years. They went public 11 months after his soulmate's death.
I will not acknowledge any more blasphemy on this matter for 14.5 more years.
Bizarre video shows billionaire NFL owner, 71, helping comely bikini-clad gal pal, 32, audition for 'acting job as a pole-dancer' (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2172051/Bizarre-video-shows-billionaire-NFL-owner-Bob-Kraft-helping-comely-bikini-clad-Ricki-Lander-audition.html)
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I didn't know about this rule but I'm surprised its taken this long to establish what is legal and what is not...
http://www.csnne.com/blog/patriots-talk/nfl-says-solder-touchdown-play-was-illegal?p=ya5nbcs&ocid=yahoo
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I didn't know about this rule but I'm surprised its taken this long to establish what is legal and what is not...
http://www.csnne.com/blog/patriots-talk/nfl-says-solder-touchdown-play-was-illegal?p=ya5nbcs&ocid=yahoo
Unpossible. The Patriots don't do anything illegal.
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They're going to looking at the eligible receiver thing in the off season. Patriots did it all season long and it tip toes the line of legality. It's not illegal as long as they have 5 receivers reporting that they are eligible, but if they aren't already designated receivers then they have to do it each play, like a lineman or QB.
The NFL is stupid.
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Physicists Prove Pats Didn't Deflate (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/30/sports/football/deflation-experiments-show-patriots-may-have-science-on-their-side-after-all.html)
(http://static01.nyt.com/images/2015/01/30/sports/PHYSICS3/PHYSICS3-articleLarge.jpg)
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They're going to looking at the eligible receiver thing in the off season. Patriots did it all season long and it tip toes the line of legality. It's not illegal as long as they have 5 receivers reporting that they are eligible, but if they aren't already designated receivers then they have to do it each play, like a lineman or QB.
The NFL is stupid.
I thought they didn't do it all season long, they started doing it against the ravens in the playoffs
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They're going to looking at the eligible receiver thing in the off season. Patriots did it all season long and it tip toes the line of legality. It's not illegal as long as they have 5 receivers reporting that they are eligible, but if they aren't already designated receivers then they have to do it each play, like a lineman or QB.
The NFL is stupid.
I thought they didn't do it all season long, they started doing it against the ravens in the playoffs
That was my understanding as well.
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I didn't know about this rule but I'm surprised its taken this long to establish what is legal and what is not...
http://www.csnne.com/blog/patriots-talk/nfl-says-solder-touchdown-play-was-illegal?p=ya5nbcs&ocid=yahoo
This is the most ridiculous thing ever. Illegal is such an inflammatory word, even if by the strictest definition thereof its accurate. A player was lined up in the wrong position. That happens 2-3 times a game for every team; it's a five-yard penalty for illegal formation or ineligible man down field.
There is a gaping chasm between committing one of the 12 or so penalties committed in every football game since the invention of the sport and "doing something illegal" or "cheating". By that hyperbolic logic, pass interference, delay of game, a false start, and offensive holding are "cheating."
If you want to, then get down on the referees for missing a call, but even the most butthurt New England hater has to find this ridiculous.
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They're going to looking at the eligible receiver thing in the off season. Patriots did it all season long and it tip toes the line of legality. It's not illegal as long as they have 5 receivers reporting that they are eligible, but if they aren't already designated receivers then they have to do it each play, like a lineman or QB.
The NFL is stupid.
I thought they didn't do it all season long, they started doing it against the ravens in the playoffs
I could be mistaken. They could have just pulled the regular "ineligible man down field" and I lumped it in.
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I didn't know about this rule but I'm surprised its taken this long to establish what is legal and what is not...
http://www.csnne.com/blog/patriots-talk/nfl-says-solder-touchdown-play-was-illegal?p=ya5nbcs&ocid=yahoo
This is the most ridiculous thing ever. Illegal is such an inflammatory word, even if by the strictest definition thereof its accurate. A player was lined up in the wrong position. That happens 2-3 times a game for every team; it's a five-yard penalty for illegal formation or ineligible man down field.
There is a gaping chasm between committing one of the 12 or so penalties committed in every football game since the invention of the sport and "doing something illegal" or "cheating". By that hyperbolic logic, pass interference, delay of game, a false start, and offensive holding are "cheating."
If you want to get down on the referees for missing a call but even the most butthurt New England hater has to find this ridiculous.
I agree; should've put the term in quotes.. I was referring to the article.....
its become a witch hunt at this point..
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I didn't know about this rule but I'm surprised its taken this long to establish what is legal and what is not...
http://www.csnne.com/blog/patriots-talk/nfl-says-solder-touchdown-play-was-illegal?p=ya5nbcs&ocid=yahoo
what a non-story. the play was illegal, but not because of solder's catch, touchdown, legibility status, etc... but because of someone on the opposite side of the formation. any play would have been illegal, the refs just missed it.
but even the most butthurt New England hater has to find this ridiculous.
haters goin' hate. it's like trying to interject logic into a conversation with a yankees hater, a U2 hater, a GW Bush hater, etc. - ain't gonna work.
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U2 did 9/11
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^^was that a question or a statement?
what is under Edge's hat...a box cutter.... ;D
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what is under Edge's hat...
A complete asshole who, despite being in his fifties, self-glosses himself with the lamest comic book superhero name imaginable?
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Here's a horrifying game you can play during this Sunday's Super Bowl and the nearly 12 hours of pre- and postgame content: count the number of times you hear some variation of "deflated balls" and compare that to the number of times during Super Bowls XLV or XLVII you heard the phrases "two-time accused rapist" or "accused co-conspirator in a double murder." Or just compare "deflated balls" to "brain damage." Then see if the first number dwarfs a combination of the last three by an order of magnitude. It will.
http://www.mrdestructo.com/2015/01/everything-stupid-is-alive-and.html?m=1
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It's going to be interesting if Carroll takes responsibility for the play call or if Wilson audibled into the slant.
My guess is that it was the bench and Wilson's audible was to line the slant up on the rookies side. Either way, worst call EVAH.
EDIT : Pete Carroll fell on the sword.
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It's going to be interesting if Carroll takes responsibility for the play call or if Wilson audibled into the slant.
My guess is that it was the bench and Wilson's audible was to line the slant up on the rookies side. Either way, worst call EVAH.
One minute left at the one with Lynch in the backfield?? ufb.
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Not a Theismann, but still cringe-inducing:
(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/2560036/thumbs/o-462637350-900.jpg)
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that was seriously the worst play call ever.. i almost feel bad for the Seahawks....
buah ah ha ha ha
with Lynch and Wilson as options to power through/sneak it in...how could they do that?
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That was seriously an awesome Super Bowl. So many twists and turns and shifts.
Brady is the best ever, and its not close.
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(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--pi8tq2GE--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_320/ehzwopctyirm99tkjzfc.jpg)
I somehow missed this commercial altogether and was very confused when this photo started coming up on everyone's Timeline last night. Heard about it on the radio this morning.
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left shark ruled!
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Why did Belichick not call a timeout prior to the interception? It was as if they were giving up and conceding the game at that point.
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Why did Belichick not call a timeout prior to the interception? It was as if they were giving up and conceding the game at that point.
They only had two left and he probably figured he needed both timeouts if they were to get a couple of long throws and a field goal after Seattle scored. He wasn't conceding the game, just conceding a TD by Seattle.
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If NE had called timout, then Seattle would have been able to run the ball three more times. Without the TO, Seattle had to pass at least once, so it worked out pretty well for NE.
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If NE had called timout, then Seattle would have been able to run the ball three more times. Without the TO, Seattle had to pass at least once, so it worked out pretty well for NE.
Seattle didn't need to throw. They still had a TO.
Interesting take:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2015/02/02/bill-belichick-made-a-sneaky-smart-decision-that-might-have-contributed-to-fateful-play-call-by-pete-carroll/
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I just couldn't believe Kearse made that catch..when he did I thought it was game over... then Beastmode almost got in the end zone! I would have told Russell Wilson...either you give it to Beastmode or you take it in...that would have been the call on 2nd, 3rd and 4th down......and if I had thrown a pass I disagree with the pass called even if experts say it was high percentage.. the only pass I would have tried would have been in a corner of the end zone.....
But you can't take anything away from Brady in the 4th Quarter.....
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Thing is Pete Carroll has been and is a cocky playcaller....how many times did he call crazy cocky plays and it worked???
But this was not the time for that!
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Carroll's two biggest "failures" in his career are both attached to odd "X & 1 yard to go" calls, if you think about it.
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If NE had called timout, then Seattle would have been able to run the ball three more times. Without the TO, Seattle had to pass at least once, so it worked out pretty well for NE.
Seattle didn't need to throw. They still had a TO.
Interesting take:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2015/02/02/bill-belichick-made-a-sneaky-smart-decision-that-might-have-contributed-to-fateful-play-call-by-pete-carroll/
They had three downs to work with, with 26 seconds and one timeout. That's not enough time for three running plays. They didn't need to throw on second down, though.
Yeah, that Post article is saying what I was trying to say.
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They had three downs to work with, with 26 seconds and one timeout. That's not enough time for three running plays.
To be fair, they had 26 seconds left because they let 30 seconds run off the clock. If they wanted to run on 2nd, 3rd, and 4th down with only one timeout, they could've done that by getting the play snapped 20 seconds earlier.
I think the smarter game-theory play for Belicheck is calling the timeout. The most likely outcome of Seattle's drive with 2nd down and goal at the one is a lead-taking touchdown. The Patriot's chance of winning is statistically more affected by having an additional 30 seconds, not the increased interception opportunity created by "forcing" Seattle to throw on one of the hypothetical 3 downs remaining.
EDIT: I do think if Belicheck calls a timeout and Carroll has 2 minutes to stand around and think about the call (and ~45 seconds on the clock at time of snap compared to ~28, he calls a run). Regardless of play call or time out strategy, Patriots obviously had a very small (football outsiders put it at 9% statistically) chance of winning going into that play and no run v pass or timeout strategy was going to significantly impact that.
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They had three downs to work with, with 26 seconds and one timeout. That's not enough time for three running plays.
To be fair, they had 26 seconds left because they let 30 seconds run off the clock. If they wanted to run on 2nd, 3rd, and 4th down with only one timeout, they could've done that by getting the play snapped 20 seconds earlier.
I think the smarter game-theory play for Belicheck is calling the timeout. The most likely outcome of Seattle's drive with 2nd down and goal at the one is a lead-taking touchdown. The Patriot's chance of winning is statistically more affected by having an additional 30 seconds, not the increased interception opportunity created by "forcing" Seattle to throw on one of the hypothetical 3 downs remaining.
EDIT: I do think if Belicheck calls a timeout and Carroll has 2 minutes to stand around and think about the call (and ~45 seconds on the clock at time of snap compared to ~28, he calls a run). Regardless of play call or time out strategy, Patriots obviously had a very small (football outsiders put it at 9% statistically) chance of winning going into that play and no run v pass or timeout strategy was going to significantly impact that.
Belichick
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"Johnny Football" now "Johnny Rehab" (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-02-02/browns-rookie-quarterback-manziel-enters-treatment-program)
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They had three downs to work with, with 26 seconds and one timeout. That's not enough time for three running plays.
To be fair, they had 26 seconds left because they let 30 seconds run off the clock. If they wanted to run on 2nd, 3rd, and 4th down with only one timeout, they could've done that by getting the play snapped 20 seconds earlier.
Right, but if Seattle had snapped the ball earlier and then scored on that play, Brady would have had a lot of time left to get the tying FG. But in the end, Carroll just outsmarted himself.
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(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--h3WL6cd9--/wi8src56el4lhgdd3jty.gif)
https://twitter.com/AnnaKendrick47/status/562056902675554305
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http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/02/02/sports/football/wilson-saw-a-window-to-victory-but-butler-stole-the-show.html
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everybody needs to stop whatever it is that they are doing at this very moment, and go order this book:
http://www.amazon.com/Gronking-Remember-Rob-Gronkowski-Erotica/dp/150585766X/
some of the reviews are as good as the book itself.
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everybody needs to stop whatever it is that they are doing at this very moment, and go order this book:
http://www.amazon.com/Gronking-Remember-Rob-Gronkowski-Erotica/dp/150585766X/
some of the reviews are as good as the book itself.
Old news.
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Bleacher Report @BleacherReport Left Shark will not be left behind #GRAMMYs
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'According to Baltimore County police, the officer stopped Pierce's 2014 Ford Mustang about 2 a.m. after his radar showed Pierce's car going 55 mph in a 30 mph zone. The officer then noticed "an odor of an alcoholic beverage from his breath" as well as slurred speech and dilated pupils, according to the statement of probable cause.The officer wrote that Pierce said he'd had three shots of Jack Daniels and he saw Pierce fumble getting his driver's license out of his wallet. He also twice told the officer that he weighed 530 pounds.'
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Maybe I will get a concussion . . . I quit.
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Maybe I will get a concussion . . . I quit.
if you're banging your head against the keyboard a lot....
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Hey, look. The Pats didn't do anything again.
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(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/xu5gufup5l7rbynabgik.jpg)
BOO!
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^Looks like Space and his wife...
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Browns Improve On 2017 Season (https://deadspin.com/browns-improve-on-2017-season-1828923907)
i LOL'ed.
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new logos for football...but not in the NFL
(https://imagesvc.timeincapp.com/v3/mm/image?url=https://cdn-s3.si.com/s3fs-public/2019/08/21/xfl-logos-names-ranked.jpg&w=1200&h=628&c=sc&poi=face&q=85)
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did they ask an 11 year old boy to select those team names?
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did they ask an 11 year old boy to select those team names?
I was thinking the cast of stranger things...but there would have the Orlando Orcs
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I refuse to watch one second of XFL unless Vince does a 180 and allows the players to put nicknames on the back of the uniforms like in the original XFL.
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I refuse to watch one second of XFL unless Vince does a 180 and allows the players to put nicknames on the back of the uniforms like in the original XFL.
co-signed
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Shit just got real y’all
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/fedex-washington-redskins-change-team-name
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Nike store no longer carrying Redskins merchandise
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Shit just got real y’all
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/fedex-washington-redskins-change-team-name
This is the first time in my life where I actually feel this might happen. I still doubt it but maybe. The refusal to sell merch thing is bigger than the FedEx thing.
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Money speaks way louder than protesters
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The team offered few details of what the review will entail, but one person familiar with the discussions between team owner Daniel Snyder, NFL commissioner Roger Goodell and other league officials said that the review is expected to result in a new team name.
“You know where this leads," the person said, speaking on condition of anonymity. "They’re working on that process [of changing the name]. It will end with a new name. Dan has been listening to different people over the last number of weeks.”
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I think the protests led to the $ being pulled Sidehatch!
What’s a good new name?
Please not warriors
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I think the protests led to the $ being pulled Sidehatch!
What’s a good new name?
Please not warriors
It’ll almost certainly be Warriors since Snyder trademarked it a decade ago.
Hogskins seems like a fun option.
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Oddsmakers think it's possible the 'skins will rename themselves the Washington Capitols (https://russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2020/07/03/oddsmakers-think-its-possible-the-washington-redskins-will-rename-themselves-the-washington-capitols/?fbclid=IwAR15O2npWEK8lDXdibix1rKcruvUsAxRqp3zwsGCgCfUp6aqwNxDNqx7Ccw)
Five potential team names (https://www.si.com/nfl/2020/07/03/five-potential-team-names-for-washington-football-team-dan-snyder?suid=5cc1ca4f24c17c49394b9d88&utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=SI%20Extra%20070320&utm_term=SI%20Extra%20-%20USE%20THIS%20-%20List)
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Oddsmakers think it's possible the 'skins will rename themselves the Washington Capitols (https://russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2020/07/03/oddsmakers-think-its-possible-the-washington-redskins-will-rename-themselves-the-washington-capitols/?fbclid=IwAR15O2npWEK8lDXdibix1rKcruvUsAxRqp3zwsGCgCfUp6aqwNxDNqx7Ccw)
OK this would be amazing.
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See I would be into that...
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Can you imagine . . . the Washington War Hogs? I can. People would eat that up with overpriced merchandise for all.
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Ditch the rivalry with the Cowboys and start one with Seattle by going with the Washington States.
Alternately, Snyder can go total heel and go with the Washington Lawmen or Washington All Lives Matters.
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I really hope they don’t go with something bellicose
If they want to go in that direction be honest and just call them the Washington Warmongers
I prefer something DC as capital related: Monuments, Capitols, Presidents (I know will never happen)
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Best one I have heard
The Washington Maul
@piperperabo
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Best one I have heard
The Washington Maul
@piperperabo
Winner, winner, chicken dinner.
Honestly, sounds a little more XFL than NFL but a bravo suggestion.
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I like Washington Pork
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I think they should go for the Washington Taxpayers
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So many good ones...
Washington Lobbyists
Washington Politicians
Washington Commanders
Washington Supremes (RBG mascot)
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Washington Taxers
Washington Law
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72 NFL players have tested positive for COVID-19
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I really don’t understand the point of organized sports under these circumstances
I mean I get it ..$
But some leagues certain teams can’t participate, teams can’t field their best team (some players won’t play), fans can’t be in attendance, fans can’t watch at bars, different states with different covid protocols, etc etc
It’s really pushing a rock up a hill
Is anyone going to care who wins World Series this year?
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worst name ever
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Edn6Gp-XYAA_JpG?format=jpg&name=large)
This is not a final renaming and rebranding for team; this is the name it wants to use until pending adoption of a new name in the future.
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worst name ever
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Edn6Gp-XYAA_JpG?format=jpg&name=large)
This is not a final renaming and rebranding for team; this is the name it wants to use until pending adoption of a new name in the future.
Ive been calling it this for years. Go look at the long running thread about the team. As usual, I am so based.
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Ive been calling it this for years. Go look at the long running thread about the team. As usual, I am so based.
jules might be the OG woke-nfl-analyst for this board, but many folks have refused to use the term "redskins" for longer. there's the story of Mike Carey, an NFL referee for 19 years. for the first 11 years of his career, he never said "redskins" when making calls - it was always "offside, Washington number 45, five yard penalty..." for his last 8 years, he refused to ref any Washington games.
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NFL says teams will forfeit games delayed by coronavirus outbreaks (https://www.axios.com/nfl-coronavirus-outbreak-delayed-games-040e3f59-5012-4763-8b59-5f044080c8b4.html)
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My interest in the NFL has really dropped drastically in the past decade, but holy shit what a weekend of games.
The Chiefs/Bills game last night may be the best game I recall watching... ever?
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All 4 games were exciting, but last nights game was incredible.
My interest in the NFL has really dropped drastically in the past decade, but holy shit what a weekend of games.
The Chiefs/Bills game last night may be the best game I recall watching... ever?
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i can't remember a better weekend of football. bills/chiefs was the icing on an amazing cake.
division finals weekend, with 4 top-shelf games, should be celebrated as a holiday.
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I rarely find myself watching the NFL and even less often find myself texting back and forth with people about it, but that was the case this weekend. Wish Buffalo had won so we'd guarantee some new blood winning but wow, what a quad of games.
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With all the advantages the league has given to the offense...it's just too easy to score. How many times this year did offenses score with less than a minute left in the game to come back and win.
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With all the advantages the league has given to the offense...it's just too easy to score. How many times this year did offenses score with less than a minute left in the game to come back and win.
78.
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OMG Damar Hamlin
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It's completely ridiculous that they haven't called the game yet. Cancel.for tonight and figure out the details later. FFS!
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It's completely ridiculous that they haven't called the game yet. Cancel.for tonight and figure out the details later. FFS!
I mean, the NFL is garbage, but I think it was handled properly...
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It's completely ridiculous that they haven't called the game yet. Cancel.for tonight and figure out the details later. FFS!
I mean, the NFL is garbage, but I think it was handled properly...
They told the teams they had five minutes to resume and the coaches and players, by multiple accounts, told the referees no and called the league office on a cell phone and told them to fuck off. I don’t think it’s clear this was handled properly at all.
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It's completely ridiculous that they haven't called the game yet. Cancel.for tonight and figure out the details later. FFS!
I mean, the NFL is garbage, but I think it was handled properly...
They told the teams they had five minutes to resume and the coaches and players, by multiple accounts, told the referees no and called the league office on a cell phone and told them to fuck off. I don’t think it’s clear this was handled properly at all.
See my first line about the NFL being trash... but I'm assuming the severity wasn't fully known in the first 300 seconds.
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It's completely ridiculous that they haven't called the game yet. Cancel.for tonight and figure out the details later. FFS!
I mean, the NFL is garbage, but I think it was handled properly...
They told the teams they had five minutes to resume and the coaches and players, by multiple accounts, told the referees no and called the league office on a cell phone and told them to fuck off. I don’t think it’s clear this was handled properly at all.
See my first line about the NFL being trash... but I'm assuming the severity wasn't fully known in the first 300 seconds.
I think there’s more to come on this but I think if you’ve just watched a guy get CPR for 9-11 minutes, you maybe know enough to not suggest, “ok well that unpleasantness is done, let’s take 300 seconds and play ball.”
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It's completely ridiculous that they haven't called the game yet. Cancel.for tonight and figure out the details later. FFS!
Enough with the hysterics. If the NFL had to call every game when a player had a scary injury more than half of the games would be called early. That said, Goddell is a douchebag and the Shield deserves all the egg thrown at it this morning for scheduling the Packers and Lions on Sunday night and screwing the Seahawks in favor of the NFL's golden child Packers.
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It's completely ridiculous that they haven't called the game yet. Cancel.for tonight and figure out the details later. FFS!
Enough with the hysterics. If the NFL had to call every game when a player had a scary injury more than half of the games would be called early. That said, Goddell is a douchebag and the Shield deserves all the egg thrown at it this morning for scheduling the Packers and Lions on Sunday night and screwing the Seahawks in favor of the NFL's golden child Packers.
If I had to read this post, you are required to read the damn room.
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It's completely ridiculous that they haven't called the game yet. Cancel.for tonight and figure out the details later. FFS!
Enough with the hysterics. If the NFL had to call every game when a player had a scary injury more than half of the games would be called early. That said, Goddell is a douchebag and the Shield deserves all the egg thrown at it this morning for scheduling the Packers and Lions on Sunday night and screwing the Seahawks in favor of the NFL's golden child Packers.
None sense. Players don’t have their hearts stop beating in more than half the games. There is a difference between an ACL injury and death.
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ACL injuries aren't scary injuries.
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Exactly... and how many games keep moving on when I guy just lost the ability to walk for the remainder of his life?
Based on my 13 seconds of research, this is the first time this has ever happened? Additionally, a couple of meatballs in pinstripes that wish they were actually playing the game vs. reffing most likely have a protocol they have to follow until told otherwise.
Now let's head to the just announced thread.
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Exactly... and how many games keep moving on when I guy just lost the ability to walk for the remainder of his life?
Based on my 13 seconds of research, this is the first time this has ever happened? Additionally, a couple of meatballs in pinstripes that wish they were actually playing the game vs. reffing most likely have a protocol they have to follow until told otherwise.
Now let's head to the just announced thread.
IIRC they gave Joe Theismann 300 seconds to get off the field.
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Exactly... and how many games keep moving on when I guy just lost the ability to walk for the remainder of his life?
Based on my 13 seconds of research, this is the first time this has ever happened? Additionally, a couple of meatballs in pinstripes that wish they were actually playing the game vs. reffing most likely have a protocol they have to follow until told otherwise.
Now let's head to the just announced thread.
Sorry I'm not really following closely, but am I the only person in the world who would rather be a ref than a football player?
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Exactly... and how many games keep moving on when I guy just lost the ability to walk for the remainder of his life?
Based on my 13 seconds of research, this is the first time this has ever happened? Additionally, a couple of meatballs in pinstripes that wish they were actually playing the game vs. reffing most likely have a protocol they have to follow until told otherwise.
Now let's head to the just announced thread.
IIRC they gave Joe Theismann 300 seconds to get off the field.
That's my point... awful injuries happen yearly.
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Based on my 13 seconds of research, this is the first time this has ever happened?
I mean, football players have died on the field before. Many in the early Ivy League days of the sport. And Jack Trice post-safety changes to the sport in the 1920s (still the only African-American with their name on a major college/NFL stadium). Chuck Hughes died on the field in 1971 and the game rolled on.
If you're asking if a player had a cardiac incident of this severity as a result of football actions in the widely televised-era of the sport: no. In basketball there's Hank Gathers but Loyola-Marymount basketball is not MONDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL viewership-wise.
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Exactly... and how many games keep moving on when I guy just lost the ability to walk for the remainder of his life?
Based on my 13 seconds of research, this is the first time this has ever happened? Additionally, a couple of meatballs in pinstripes that wish they were actually playing the game vs. reffing most likely have a protocol they have to follow until told otherwise.
Now let's head to the just announced thread.
IIRC they gave Joe Theismann 300 seconds to get off the field.
That was close to 40 years ago!!!
Things change but you can’t compare broken bones to a heart that has stopped beating.
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Exactly... and how many games keep moving on when I guy just lost the ability to walk for the remainder of his life?
Based on my 13 seconds of research, this is the first time this has ever happened? Additionally, a couple of meatballs in pinstripes that wish they were actually playing the game vs. reffing most likely have a protocol they have to follow until told otherwise.
Now let's head to the just announced thread.
Sorry I'm not really following closely, but am I the only person in the world who would rather be a ref than a football player?
The Refs are doing the jobs they're supposed to do, not determine the severity of an injury and how long a delay should happen or if a game should be canceled.
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This piece, ironically entitled Buffalo (https://www.bannersociety.com/2016/9/2/20840137/buffalo), by Spencer Hall remains one of my favorite pieces of sportswriting and seems even more timely in light of this.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/charlie-kirk-branded-human-garbage-over-damar-hamlin-remarks/ar-AA15UKsm?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=f39b4889aced4a13a67dbaf68375ebfe
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How do these people sleep at night?
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I don't know if Kinzinger has a shed with 10,000 LP's or counts integers in his sleep, but I feel like he'd be a good addition to this forum.
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I saw him once at Anthem. Natty dresser. Shorter than I expected. I wish I could remember name of show…