2009-2010 NFL discussion thread

[vansmack]

but, the NFL old timers, the ones who punt on 4th and 1 from the opponents 45 yard line, say that's ridiculous. . . .and i'm not buying it.

4th and 1 from the opponents 45 is a completely different argument than 4th and 2 from your own 28 with 2 minutes to go and a 6 point lead.  Nobody young or old in football not named Belicheck has said this was a good idea.  Just a bunch of "stat" heads who you've already admitted are not using a full deck for their equations.

On Sunday you and I have always thought you should go for it on 4th and 1 from the opponents 45, but mostly because punters not named Sepulveda suck.  I'm only sad that we weren't watching the game together so I wouldn't have to listen to your contrarian ways because you find it chic to agree with guys like Easterbrook.  If you were there, you would have called it a bad idea.  And you would have been right.

[sweetcell]

Bottom line, he ruined his defense's confidence for the rest of the season

bottom line?  hyperbole much?

[vansmack]

bottom line?  hyperbole much?

OK.  45 is the over under, with the Pats being an 11 point favorite.  (45/2)-(11/2)=17.

I'll take the over on the Jets scoring 17 points.

[sweetcell]

first, i'd take that bet mostly 'cause it'll give us grounds for smack (!) talk.  name your proposed wager.

second, the link between the jets scoring more than the vegas line gives them credit for is a very very tenuous way of proving that the pat's D is done for the season.

[godsshoeshine]

only massholes who care more about baseball during the winter think going for it on 4th down was a good idea. and even then only 45% of left handers at night

[Venerable Bede]

first, i'd take that bet mostly 'cause it'll give us grounds for smack (!) talk.  name your proposed wager.

second, the link between the jets scoring more than the vegas line gives them credit for is a very very tenuous way of proving that the pat's D is done for the season.

so, what did sweetcell win?

Pats defense, productive offense beat Jets 31-14

[sweetcell]

sweetcell won nothing, we never agreed to a wager.  but i'll claim the moral victory, "i told you so" is reward enough.

[vansmack]

sweetcell won nothing, we never agreed to a wager.  but i'll claim the moral victory, "i told you so" is reward enough.

And I conceded at halftime via text message.  Sanchez was horrible and all the USC guys I was with said you can forget about him playing in 50 degrees or below weather.  I should have waited for the Drew Brees week to shoot my mouth off.

[sweetcell]

I should have waited for the Drew Brees week to shoot my mouth off.

except that the saints are averaging over 30 points a game as is.  they'd have to score 50+ points to prove that a defense has serious issues.  somehow i doubt the pats will let brees & co run away with 50+ points (however the pats won't keep pace with the saints).

[sweetcell]

all the USC guys I was with said you can forget about him playing in 50 degrees or below weather. 

great trait to have when playing in new york, in the AFC (north) East...

[ggw]

Vinny Cerrato resigns:

http://www.wtopnews.com/?nid=293&sid=1842940

Now if only Dan Snyder would resign...